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catch my vikhr...
>released at 9.3>uptiered to 10.3 because maveriks were added >implemented separate BRs for AB/GB >never put in back to 9.3 in ARB
>>562302214>t: slavnikhr
>>562302249It remains at that high a BR due to the missiles
catch my fireflash
>>562302347goofy ahh design
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_TbF5m5KpU
>>562302339slavnikhr with a ferocious ahh vikh
>>562302345Wow, a fucking J sidewinder
i really wish they gave a proper explanation of how the ai units in the event work
>>562302249>>uptiered to 10.3 because maveriks were addedit got uptiered to 10.3 because people were sealclubbing an entire bracket with itit was one of the few aircraft with airspawn, flares and 20g missiles
>>562302650When is anything ever explained in this game?
>>562302345T-2 is 9.7>but flaressupersonic
>>562302650they are just simple ai, not constrained by silly human things as seeing or having to reload, or being on the movethey just know where everything is at all times and can perfectly guide any missile in on the move and instantly reload it
>>562301914>*Locks onto your name tag through the clouds and launches a radar missile*Oops, haha.
They should at least add the Tu-95 to Germany as its airframe and engines were designed by JVNKER engineers shipped to Russia. Boeing is German American too
>>562302691And weigtless/dragless 30mm gunpods too, i know, i got tali on it on release and unlocked like half a tree with it But matchmaking nowadays is way different, surly it's not a 9.3 aircraft, but this fat fuck should not fight mig21bis and f5e
>>562302643is definitely many of betters than r-60 plox onderstand )))
>>562303072it's just an inherent flaw with gaijin's balancingthere are shitloads of vehicles that were batshit op on release, got uptiered just slightly too hard and now are unusable or mid enough to warrant not being used at allsee: type 87 rcv, saggy, cv9040BRs change, statistics remain high enough not to warrant downtiers, catch 22
>Could have probably just made this like a normal match from 6.0 to top tier and just hand people free planes depending on the BR like Ground already has>Just scale the ground units and nukes to fit the BRGaijin are going to see people bitching about their own shitty implementation and scrap this entirely aren't they
>>562303282But not by a lot It still slow as fuck G on naval a7 is miles better
>do well for 5 mins
>>562303386Nah, too much work went into this for them to just scrap it. If you've ever attempted to make a user mission in the CDK, you'd understand what a technical achievement that mode is. The things that people complain about like overtuned SAMs are fairly easy fixes, I'm talking about the amount of assets made for this, the mission setup, the AI behaviors, etc. Shit, there are supply columns that dynamically spawn and drive to destroyed depots to repair them, that's fucking insane for this game where up until this point the absolute peak of AI behavior was driving along a set of hard-coded waypoints.
They should have added the Peacemaker.
>>562303386you know it)))))))
>>562303386there lock every complaint post
oh no no no Iranian sisters. What's our response?
When?
>>562304079Still no Su-27?
>>562304079This hurts the feelings of the Chinese people
>>562304079>Was actually having fun using it as a multi-role CAS planefuck
>>562304141still no su27
>>562304141>>562304295If they allow the su27 they should allow amraams
>>562304349delusional
>>562304079Imagine the paypigs that just bought it
>>562304349thisand if they allow su33 when should just allow you to spawn in a minuteman 3
>>562304079I was considering not doing the event anymore. Maybe I'll reconsider
>>562304407Mutts need a whole generation advantage to compete
>>562304079I'm still confused why the Harrier is in the naughty bitch pile
>>562303716anon you do know that the cdk is theirs right?it's their problem they can't make ai do more than drool along a road, and theirs to fixit's also their problem regarding how hard it is to use the cdk because again it's their cdk, they make itthis mode isn't really that impressive for human developers
>fly slaves>amutt air defense is a joke, the mig23 is excellent at tossing nukes at ground units while the su24 is fast and can deliver nukes without issues>fly amutts>slave air defense snipes you from 30 km, missiles don't lose tracking, they banned the IRIAF-14, the phantom is way too slow, and you are matched with US players>if you have neither trees researched you are food
>>562304538The Russian planes are a whole decade newer than the US ones.
>>562304639It's a mystery
i am so fucking sick of being shot down by magical rolands
>>562304838Still on a dogshit platform
>>562304885It's not that bad and has an F/A-18 radar.
>>562304854It's best to sneak up low on them. If you got a 30mm, spray them down with it and they're cooked. Drop flares as you leave if there is a second in the area.
>>562304807Russian technology is a decade behind, so it works out
>IRIAF bannedIt's over for USA.
>>562305038No way they banned iriaf?big if trueYesterday i raped a lot of them
>>562304989>Drop flares as you leave if there is a second in the area.bro... it's a saclos missile, and they don't use the radar to track you
>>562304079>use event to finally unlock fakours for the thing like two years after i got it>go to sleep before i try them out>when i wake up i can't use the plane in the event at all
>>562304885Learn to viff.
ATTENTION
>Sessions in the event are now split to 2 Battle Rating ranges: “pre-top” 10.3-11.7 and “top” 12.0-13.0.PIG if true.
lollmao
Finally
>GE actually making sensible balancing choiceswow
>>562305263Good, the default lineup tops at 11.7, this means that if you try to to be a custom faggot you get sent to the designated faggot bracket.
>>562305263The issue is that now you have no tools to stop Mig-23 from dropping nukes. Phantoms are too slow to chase. Missiles can be flared. Nothing you can do about a Mig-23 that zooms past you
>>562305290>>562305372>both 11.7 and 13.0 favours russian planesgreat!
>GE
>>562305512Use your sparrows
>>562305828No look-down mode.
>>562305893Look up
How is USA supposed to compete if they can't fight mig23s with gen4s all day?
>>562306064They can fight Mig-23M. The devs decided that Phantoms have to fight against a superior plane in every aspect
>>562306064>fight mig23s with gen4s all daythey still can
>>562305512Flogger can't go beyond ~1.4k on deck.
>>562305512F-4E gets 9Ls in the event, so its a bit better
This is retarded.There'll be no 12.0 - 13.0 games because all RU players are are gonna be playing 10.3 - 11.7.
>>562305263>>562305512>YEET THAT PENDULUM!!!!Good one anton ))))Now the russian side (10.3-11.7) will always win )))
erm...
I like the implication that F-14s were actually looking out for nuclear suicide runs on the sides and weren't just lobbing radar missiles into the central furball
>>562306608Now neither team can find matches. Pay up golden birdies for your event progress
>>562306608BRAVO, GAIJIN!
>>562302339>slavnichHe's known, forget about it, but far from famous.
Is there a way to join a match that isn't 1af vs 5 af? Just gimme a fresh game
>>562305372Aw shucks, that will make getting the required score harder
>>562304079>hodling a f14 since I don't play any more>see event and reckon I should check the market because it's meta and that'll spike the price>computer freezes when the market opens>lose interest and figure I'll do it tomorrow>tomorrow:how many goycoins did it go up to before this happened?
When are chinks getting a fnf slinger niggerwagen?
Your QN506 Temunator?
>>562307259Who cares. No one plays China.
>>562306583Oh wow the F-4E get's an equivalent missile to the R-60M, how generous!
>>562307352i forgot that thing existed>70 goybux for the worst tank in the gamechrist>>562307358i play all nations (minus pissrael) for fun
>>562307730>AIM-9L>equivalent to R-60Mlol
>>562307730>ligmas are equivalent to 60mGod damn burgermutts really do live a delusional charmed life
>Patriot and S300 in the game for the event>they're just as shit as the Roland 1wow
>>562308131Very good trade for pd radar and 13.0 missile ))))))
>Press the airbrake button on the B-52>The spoilerons deployUm, Gaijin... This kills the plane...
Shitters ruining everything again, shoulda just banned the iranian plane, and maybe non-event planes but here we are, propsloppers cant press more than two buttons again
>>562307813)))
>>562308663best decal in the game
>>562308131>>562308334You niggers blow in from stupid town?The AIM-9L has a bit more range but it's pull of the rail is delayedBoth are extremely easy to flareEquivalent is putting it exactly right
>>562304079Aw come on, I wasn't done spading it.
>>562302650What the fuck do you need explained?
>>562309004AIM-9L often ignores flares in rear aspect at 1 km and closer against Gen 4s and some Gen 3s. R-60M NEVER ignores flares.
>>562308981for me its this one
>>562309004Retard.
What the fuck is this? how do I dodge a missile that track me through the ground?literally saw a buk just firing up then the missile turns towards me
>>562309108ai units advance on each other can capture enemy supply depots, how does this workwhen and how do new units spawnhow does the supply system work
>>562308981Not even close.
>>562305372is the one on the forum a spelling mistake then with 11.7 - 13.0
>>562309313the buk site at tidewater is bugged and will launch at you despite no lockjust hit the multipath and nuke the site asap if you want to bomb the two airfields there
>>562308981
>>562309146>AIM-9L often ignores flaresHey nigger it's no longer the patch they got added, wake up grandpa, they get instaflared now
>>562308981>the fucking face
>aislop
>>562309428nevermind they made it like thisso if you're playing russia, do you get forced in either 11.7 or 13.0 because of the mig 23?
>>562309356I'll do you one better
>>562309146>AIM-9L often ignores flaresNigger 9Ms don't even ignore flares anymore are you fuckin high?
>>562309615Put a mig25 in your lineup and you'll only get low tiers
>servers are still dogshitIt's been 24 fucking hours. How many fucking days is it going to take to fix this?
Just saw a F-4J in the 10.3-11.7 bracket. How?
>>562309475unfortunately the phantom is not the best platform for thatI know they also target the glide bombs, do they target all munitions in the air? Can I just bait them with rocket pods?
>>562309615So, can i just crew something from the lower range to force the pre-top bracket?
Do mutts really still pretend that the ligma isn't the best pre-irccm dogfight fox 2?
>>562310070here's my strat>spawn lower left airfield with maverick phantom>target the first cluster of vehicles, osa gets three mavs, everything else gets one>if lucky, you'll have 250 points after the sortiego back, rearm either with more mavs until 250 or strap the nuke>dispose of the two AA sites on the way, then NAP until you're within the dead zone of the buk>pull up, drop the nuke on the siteif you don't fuck up, you'll have the next few depots and two airfields nearby free for farmingbased on my experience past the initial sortie ground pounding with anything lesser than a nuke is just wasted effortI think they'll target everything that's bigger than a zuni but won't target dumb bombs at all
>>562309734so it's only things i add to the lineup myself?
>>562310405>lower leftlower right, I'm rartedthe one closest to the coastalso>NAPi meant nap of earth, too sleepy to shitpost
>>562310382The Magic 1 is.
>>562308351The point of those is to deny the high altitude. Is it realistic? No. Does it matter? No.
>>562310382PL5 is better
yeah spawn the big nuke and cut the match short even though there's 40 minutes remaining
>>562309317Why do you need this explained?
>>562310676Frogs aren't real
Got my first giganuke, as a ussr main. Holy fuck usa players are so hanheld in this gamemode its not even funny, and the fact they can bring f15 and f14 while we cant even bring su27, holy shit gaijin ack yourself.But im happy both bombers got added and I will get both of them :D
>>562310989R-27ER mogs them both
>>562310549>>562310405I have the a-10C, use it to deliver gbus to the first line, I'll try that strat, won't the ground units repsawn?
>>562310405Do they target ordinary GPS guided bombs? (non-glide)
>>562310802Once for the novelty of it? Yeah, go for it. Stacked up faggots sweating for the RP grind well beyond event score requirement are more of a nuisance.
>PLEASE HOLD MY HAND, I NEED 6 R-27ERs!!!
>>562311082i haven't seen them target any bombs at all desu
>>562305224>>562309072Get fucked lmao
>>562310989The pushed an update while you were in the match. Iranian cat is banned. Gen4s isolated to their own bracket where f15/14s only face off vs Russian players with mig29s and 141s. Burgers are already melting down
>>562311082I've just tried and they did not shoot those down, though the drop range is so short you'll get fucked
>>562311080pretty sure depots stay dead but alive depots will spawn convoys
airfields should have itos around them in the event
>>562311073Only plane that has a r27 i own is the su 27, which is banned for no reason>>562311232Oh thank fucking GOD
uhhh can anyone explain i got an email in russian telling me im accepted in the infantry beta testwhere is it? is it live rn? do i have to download something or is it not live rn?
>>562311281they get rebuilt after a little bit
i'm just wondering why they're still doing stages for a fuckface april fools event like thiscouldnt've just said 35k points in ~10 days?
>>562310070>Can I just bait them with rocket pods?Zunis are the single best thing for dealing with ground units. Don't try to be fancy about it, just engage from 7-9km out on the AA before they start shooting at you. Then you can mop up tanks with them as well. The only issue is obviously they're harder to use on moving targets.
>>562311509>which is banned for no reasonthe faggot you are replying to already said the reasonit has 6 27ERs
>>562304349But the su27 doesnt have amraams?
>>562311616because
>>562311616So you cannot just binge on WT on your day off. So you have to commit and come every day. Not much else to it.
I like the winking clown emblem.
Which BR bracket are mudshitter/minortranny tourists with no planes going to end up in?
>>562312287>mudshitter/minortrannyI don't know what this means.
>>562311667It's also an issue that the ground units don't render past 10km
>>5623122878 to 10.7
>play USA all day yesterday >going anywhere within range of enemy SAMs even at treetop level is instant death>play Soviets today>I fly through the entire line of SAMs without even noticing until I check the mapThis episode is so tiresome and yet so unsurprising.
>>562312679Really? In air RB they render out to 30km at least IIRC, although sometimes terrain LOD obscures them.
why can't most russian radars more horizontally and instead jum quadrants?
>a-10 gets 9L>su-25 gets R-73Balanced)))))))
aah america suffers
They should just limit it to 12.0. I'm still going to be a turbonigger and use the F14B
How do the harms work? do they even work at all?
What the fuck is wrong with the new bombers?The tu95 bomb load is fucking PATHETICIt can carry 4 fab3000's? Oh thats great, you know what else can carry 4 fab 3000's? THE TU4It can carry an AMAZING 6 250kg bombs or 4 500kg. Wtf? Wasnt it supposed to be able to carry like 100 50kg bombs? Or 20 500 kg bombs?This is BLEAKFucking tu4 has better bomb loadOnly "cool" thing is the double fab5000, and its not even the cool fab5000 from the pe8, just some lame ass version)The b52 has better bomb load, alot of large bombs, neat, 21 2000 pounders or 51 500 pounders is really neat. I wished for more but thats satisfactory, but the tu95 is fucking pathetic. It can go suck tu4 cockDont even mention the 9000 kg bomb as its also pathetic, its a anti ship/bunker bomb so it has less TNT than the fab 5000 (the one from pe8)
>>562313426>do they even work at all?No
>>562313426They're anti-radiation missile which means you can shoot them at radioactive hotspots after a nuke explodes.
>>562313426>activate it>"search" with the green box>if see vehicle name, shoot bonus points if you kill a friendly plane
>>562313137Russian engineering
>>562313453Every single bomber hasn't had their historical loads in ever
>Split spawn queues (10.7-12.0 and 11.7-13.0)I kneel Gaijin-sama...
>>562313453>bombers>past ww2>in warthunderidk what you expected>>562313426they kind of work if the AA systems are distracted and/or inbetween reloads. Your best bet is to lob all of them after the AA's launch at you or someone. Even then its probably jsut best to use dumb bombs and toss those.
>>562313426You can lock them onto Sam radars. Then they'll turn off their radars and shoot down your harm
>>562313453Who cares, the rest of the plane makes up for it. Look at and listen to these engines, that shit's fucking mental.
JSOW for B-52 when
>>562309072>Flares/Chaff
>>562313453They both lack external stores I think (especially for the B-52, which was actually used as a real bomber).No clue if the Tu-95 ever got a big dumb bomb payload or if it was more intended as a cruise missile truck from the get go.
Nike-Zeus in WT when?
>>562313407f-14B radar is literal torture in this mode. it's far worse than the regular f14 radar, probably because of TISEO bugsit will 100% lock every missile on the map and 100% ignore every player heading at you at mach 1, except for brief flashes that turn into fucked up runaway jamming-like "locks"
>>562313816You don't need chaff against pd radars
>>562313819It became a pure cruise missile platform incapable of carrying dumb bombs by the MS, the M should still have a huge bomb load.
>>562313816What would I need that for? It's not like you get shot at when playing this thing correctly.>>562313901The AIM-54Cs are also kinda ass at the low altitude combat this is all the time. You're far better off in the F-15A or F-18A.
>>562313453>>562313453the tu95 should have like 10 fab 1000, or 20 fab 500Or give them their cruise missiles, nigga give them anything "RUSSIAN BIAS"Yes I know the b52 can carry like twice as many bombs as the tu95, but what it has in game is NOT half as much
>>562313957What'd the maximum bomb payloads for the 52/95 look like?
>>562313819it was a nuclear bomber from the getgothe entire purpose of it was to reach deep into US territory from over the arcticthe M-4, its competitor could only barely reach the USit was redesigned into a cruise missile carrier, just like the B-52and yes the FAB-9000 is real and was used in afghanistan
what is the point of shooting flares upwards?
>reading about event>see burgers calling the f14s radar trash>bitching that farkours and phoenixes are useless since they keep locking and launching vs SAMs instead of rival planesBurgers...
AGM-86, 181, and 183 when?
phantom game
>>562314285>they fall on to you engine>you pull into them
>>562314083Before I read the devblog I was kinda hoping that the 2500 SP strategic bomber would spawn with 16 or so nuclear cruise missiles way behind your own airfields that you then get to GPS launch at enemy airfields from there. Would've been pretty neat.
>>562313453Btw if pushed to their carrying limits the tu95 could carry 188 tons and b52 could carry 221 (just take their MTOW and subtract empty weight and fuel). Enjoy carrying less than a ww2 bomber
>>562314421No reason to play any other plane
>>562314285What do you mean by, "the point"? Flares shoot out however flare dispenser is positioned. The flare dispenser is placed where it is for variety of reasons and possibly constraints.
Just bought the F18 pack, time to grind out this event, and since i'll be at work some of these days, I'll probably have to buy some stages too
>>562314604>with no soundno shit
>>562314717just makes it easier to select the correct version
oh nooo don't ban the IRAF what will i do with my 2 other F-14s!
>>562314792aha
>>562314658good job anonI feel kinda scammed for not getting the 7P with the tech tree F-18
Honestly I found this to be the best to cleaning up SAMs at the start. The bombs can glide some distance and hit hard while they self target, so once you have a decent launch they will kill the enemy 99%. The F-111 is also fater than a phantom with more cm.
>Burgers get f15>zogs have su27 bannedWhy? If you don't want r27 spam you could limit max missiles or make it normal r27 only, but why tf ban a plane? >Mig29 with r27er, HMD, r73 and PD radar is not bannedCool, but i need to use my shitty mig23 radar cause I went sukhoi line
>>562315038Why not replace the outer two with AGM-130s, do they get targeted by SAMs more?
They should allow the su34 just without any air to air missiles, and allow teammates to see enemies your radar spotted (not lock, just see)Would make it a cool support plane
>>562315141>Why?because there is a massive skill gap
why is the M60 so fucking slow
>>562315141>just make random-ass changes and new mechanics (max amount of missiles) instead of the convenient plane banThis is Gaijin.>Mig29 with r27er, HMD, r73 and PD radar is not bannedALL of these are features on the Su-27 except even better, not sure what your point is
>>562315394su27 Has no HMD moron
so TWS>PD right?
>>562315557HMS who gives a shit
>>562315257there is not that much more benefit for more performance drain, though I'll probably just swap to two of those on the outside.Also fuck clouds, why is there a thick blob just above the sam site.
>>562312679Doesn't matter when they actually render when you get the tag way before.
>>562315557It can slave R-73s so it might as well be an HMD
>>562315573TWS is PD
>>562315557>su27 has no hmd moron Should we tell him?
>>562315623Literally revolutionary gamechanging featureEveryone gives a shit I would kill for HMD on my su34
>>562315573Pretty much. TWS displays where the contacts are heading and follows the soft lock so it's just more convenient.
>>562315664I didn't consider the F-111F before, sadly mine is stock. Don't think I can be assed to grind the rank IV mods to make it viable.
>>562315557hmmmmmm
>>562315848I was saying who gives a shit hmd or hmsI love hms with all my heart I cannot play jets without it, its such a good feature
its a little crazy russia didn't get any retarded powerful event jets or premiums compared to their ground lineups or commensurate with the IRAF or f18 is it just a factor of the collapse of the soviet union or some shit? thus not having that pseudo 4.5 gen aircraft to shove in places?
>>562315848>>562315996HMS is only relevant if you have thrust vectoring missiles or don't have tall box ACM, outside of that it's just small QoL. The F-2A for instance plays perfectly fine without it.
>Sometimes my Aim-7s fail to hit a target flying in a straight line in open air>Other times they'll pull breakneck turns to kill someone who's practically in the treesI'll be honest, I don't feel like skill has much say in this
>>5623161754.5 gen is su30sm 1 and 2, and su35s which is hopefully coming soon
>>562315623>HMS who gives a shitfor a brief moment i thought you were talking about a boat
>>562315906It's a fun plane, but it really shows how non operation maps at top tier make some planes useless. If you luck into an operation you only have to worry about mig25s.
>>562315573In broad general terms, but I think sometimes some radars support different search patterns in normal search modes. Using a wider search pattern can help for searching for random hidden opponents
>F-14 IRIAF - has been added to the list of prohibited vehicles for the event.ANTON NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>562316341sums up the whole british naval tree desu
>>562316253its a massive QoL feature>>562316341yep same here, after writing it I thought the same
>>562316296>doesn't post webm of the replay sensor view so that we can't laugh at him launching in an untenable situation
> U.S. M55 Self-Propelled HowitzerI've never played this tank before.is this right? 23 kg TNT?I'm just noticing this.so, if you hit something, its basically gone.How would this 23kg TNT M106 round fare against 6.7 Germany Tiger II's, for example?
>>562316325I hope MiG-35 too
Intercept that you fucking bitch
>>562316296It is also confusing to me how the enemy plane shits out chaff, the radar locks onto it, but the missile still tracks the plane itself.
>>562316550it plays exactly the same as any >122mm howitzer, just with a longer reloadyou roll a dice on whether it yellows a barrel or obliterates the nigga
>>562315141R-27ERs mog the fuck out of anything America has (except maybe the Fakours which are banned now,) same goes for the R-73s albeit less so. 6-8x R-27ERs + 4-6x R-73s on the SU-27 and SU-33 would result in a Russian sweep every game just due to the massive kill potential. MiG-29s are already way more effective than any F-15A.
>>562316432if the iriaf and su-27 are going to be banned, why was the BR set to 13.0 instead of 12.7 anyway?
>>562316515Every time I try to look at replays lately it fails to find most of the lobby including me. Not really sure what's causing it to break.
>>562316627intercept some GPUs
really enjoying the split br change for the event
>>562316724there is a single plane for russia at 13.0
>>562316716>MiG-29s are already way more effective than any F-15A.mutt trannies everyone
>>562316724racist comment
>>562316550>I've never played this tank before.Nobody has, it's not a tank.
What causes my fox 1 not to hit despite tracking it and going right through the enemy plane?
why am I not able to use chaff on my Mig-29 in the event?
does this mean he J'd out and I was closeby to get credit? I didnt shoot him
>>562317273yes
Will the JF-17 block 3 be a notable upgrade over the one in the game?
I don't get this. Why won't they let us use the b52 and tu95 in this gamemode outside of the nuking, you should be able to spawn as it and use it like other stuff you get for free, with the nuke being optional loadout
>>562316652There is no data link between you and the missile, so your missile is oblivious to whether or not your radar starts tracking som thing else. Your plane's radar is more like a search light than a laser. The chaff bamboozled your radar, but not the missile. The missile can still see the original target since it is still illuminated by your radar even though it is no longer centered in the search light beam. The missile will keep tracking until the opponent flies out of the illumination of your radar. Watch the sensor view in the replays. That's the most that I can dumb it down. Otherwise I need to start talking about continuous waves and speed gates.
>flying so low to the ground i could eat the grass>roland still gets mefuck off
>>562309505Custom?
>>562317074do you have select countermeasures keybinded?
>>562317605AI doesn't care about multipathing.
>>562317605They don't follow any rules, they just dumb fire and track you manually with perfect accuracy.They also reload instantly and have infinite ammo stores))))))))))
>>562317705nah, ingame decals
what the fuck>>562317390because then people would only use the Bombers, and other people would just shoot the bombers down nonstop imagine all the XP they would give to people
is the event a good place to start learning jet basics?
>>562317792i'm doing it in an attempt to block line of sight, but it always know where i amit tracks me through the trees, even though i can't lock it through the trees, and keeps it shooting until the trees are gone
>>562318181Not even remotely. Notchslop is a whole ballgame removed from the rest of the game
Hmm I think im gonna buy the f4s and use this event to get my mutt plane lines to 12.0
>>562318137Thats literally what is happening now just with strike jets
>>562318181It's a free lesson on how brainless topslop is if anything.
>>562318358Was thinking the same but not for 70 big ones
>>562317605>saclos guided weapon is immune to anti-radar defensesInteresting.
>>562318693retard>>562317854>>562318237
>>562318693>and being behind ground>and clouds
8.7 would be the GOAT br without all of the autocannon faggotry...
>>562318693yeah because a camera can see straight through a dense forest
>>562318181Yes.
the event map should've been a desert mapwould've been topical, and better too
>>562319358lame
>>562319358Inf CBT already did that
am I missing something or is the butt gun completely unusable on the b52
>>562319629>>562319792ok what about a central europe map then, that isn't covered in a junglesomething like wargame european escalation
Why turm3 is 8.3 BTW?
>>562319907we need a city map
>>562319907>glowing fields of...
can I use boosters in nuke thunder?
>>562320039Every other fucking map is a city map.
>>562317390It would just get raped kek
>>562317437It would be fine and all but the radar still illuminates targets 90 degrees to the sides where it's locked
>The game ending nukes spawn three inches from the main airfield so unless someone is already sitting around up there with their fist up their ass doing nothing else you just losecool
>>562320587Why are you racist?))))
>>562319963smol armor ((
imagine if there was a setting you could manually turn on if you really didn't want to spawn in existing games rgith before they end and didn't mind queueing for a while to get a fresh game hahahaha
do you get the same RP and SL modifiers in nuclear thunder as in ARB?
>>562321167Of course not lol
>>562320970There is but only for A&R battles))))))))))))
why do Americans complain so much in the event game mode?
>>562321928Cause they cant play it
>>562320587At least uoucan guess when they are about to spawn if there are players on the enemy team with over 5000 points and next to no kiloton damage.
Did they really split the brs in the new event or is it bullshit?
>>562322535They did but it's 10.3-12.0(?) and 12.0-13.0
>>562322582Noice, now i can dominate troonthoms in my mald
is the f14b actually any better than the 14aconsidering grinding out its modules with the event to get the bonus rp for the f18>>562322535they didenjoy waiting thirty minutes to play as us
there are bases closer to the front with 3 depots and ones behind with only 1 depot, but what does destroying the depots actually do?
>>562312287>>562316813>>562322652why are you so obsessed with trannies?
Do I want FI or HE for the soviet 20mms? I sure wish I could fucking SEE WHATS INSIDE THE HE SHELLS BUT I CANT SEE INDIVIDUAL SHELL INFO IN MIXED BELTS
>tranny response
>>562322671>>562322582Thanks!>enjoy waiting thirty minutes to play as usI'll be playing Russia anyways.MLD gaming
>>562323029FI-TYou can see individual shells in the ballistics view
The J-11 is uptier hell man
>>562323507we warned you
>>562323696And I didn't listen... it's fine I guess it helps me get adjusted to how top tier plays
>>562323507you either are top tieror you get black holed into top tier
>get nuke>wings INSTATLY rip apartT-thanks
holy SHIT finally
top tier stock grind is really just dying until you get chaff isn't it?why can't they just give us the bare minimum?
i feel like a clown trying to destroy ground units
>>562324460>going into the high tier matchmaker>for an AV-8B
>>562324460now imagine if you could actually change the size of labels and markers hah aa
>>562324460>amerimutts filtered by ccrpkek
what the fuck are poccnroids thinking with these
>>562324713high tier matchmaking is 11.7 and up
>>562324928>different shapesInstantly much easier to remember and read at a glance than arr rook same rectangles that are NAFO icons.
intercepting munitions is cool and all but I think AD should probably have the possibility of actually running out of missiles after magdumping everything 20 times if few are going to do this
>>562322829Depots are there to farm nuke points.
>>562318631I might sell my AGS to get it, the radar is apparently much better than the f4e which would make it way more fun to use anyway
>>562317437That's a pretty good explanation.
>>562317437i always wondered though, why can't a single radar lock guide multiple missiles?does it change the frequency slightly for every missile like a code? like with laser guided weapons only being guided by specific devices due to the laser frequency?never got to figure this one out
>all you need to use ARMs is the ARM itself and an RWRSo what's the point of dedicated SEAD conversions like the F-4G?
onions on using retarded bombs in a fucking b52
>>562325996>why can't a single radar lock guide multiple missiles?Because the radar in Singe Target Track mode (read: hard lock), which is what you must use with SARHs, can only see one target at a time and not a target more. All AESA and some advanced PESA radars can hard lock multiple targets and guide multiple SARHs at once, at the very least the Su-30SM2 and F/A-18E should be able to, maybe the Su-30SM, F-2A and F-15C GE too but I'm not sure about those ones.
>>562326021the F-4G removed the gun to fit in better ELINT equipment and integration with the AGM-88the better ELINT equipment allows the aircraft to passively map out where exactly emissions are coming from using triangulation, which normal RWR's aren't suited forSEAD variants of aircraft are near pointless nowadays, but the US still differentiates between their SEAD F-16C's (CJ) and non SEAD F-16C's, even though they are 99% identical and the normal F-16C can use the same ELINT pod and AGM-88's that the CJ carries
>>562326402i mean, i know why the radar can see one target and locks to a single targetbut why does the first missile lose track when there is no datalink to it to begin with? and it is just a big flashlight for the radar seeker on the missile?
this event is torture and the rewards are shitnot doing your shit event anton
fixing the spaa so it follows the rules is sorely needed and would greatly improve the eventmaking the escalation go slower would also be an improvement
>>562326521this is a skill issue
I'm still so fucking mad
I think I've finally got a system. A-7E, jettison bombs, throw 4 harms down range, maybe get AA kill, die, repeat.
if osas can instagib jdams why can't they shoot down giant fat fuck nukes
It's funny that they modeled the landing gear on the B-52 so that you can see the gear turning on the ground yet gaijin can't be arsed to model the damn cockpit
>>562318181I've been observing it in real time. First day was full of retards spawning on the middle airfield, barely doing anything, crashing, etc. Then by the end of the day they had already figured out countermeasures, other airfields, yeeting nukes, etc.
I like this mode
>>562326512Just tested it with the F/A-18A's AIM-7Ms and you absolutely can guide 2 SARHs at the same time without the first one losing lock, although obviously they will go after the same target.
>>562327029if that's your plan then just go with the A-6 with only harms, you're a bit faster
>>562327029this is a pretty bad system bro
>>562326512The missile is a telescope going after the specific colour of the radar light that's reflected from the target. When you launch a second missile, the radar has to tune a new color for the new missile, thus no longer emitting the right colour for the old missile.
>>562322990Shut up tranny.
>>562326959yeah I would also be upset if I liked such a shit aircraft lmao
this event kinda just makes me want to finally buy nuclear option
>>562326959SO FUCKING MAD>>562327298nah, who cares about the gripen
>>562327138huhin the past, the first missile would go dumb on a glide pathi wonder when they changed this
will the tu-95 or b-52 get missiles added in the future
I wish I could enjoy this like you guys do. I hate top tier.
>>562327349I doubt it, it would have to be a B-52H (Late) and gaijin will never ever add another strategic bomber after this event
>>562327349>tu-95No, the bomber and missile carrier variants are entirely separate with 0 overlap in carried ordnance. We got the bomber.>b-52Could get AGM-86Cs.
>>562327250>>562327138>>562326512But in warthunder, you can launch multiple missiles at the same target all they will keep guiding, you can even get multiple kills from a group if you launch them in different angles.
>>562327174I've only ever made it to chink sabres. I have no fucking idea what to do, mang.
>>562327029Why would you do this to yourself? The Fagthom is better at everything except carrying HARMs and those are worthless.
>>562327552Which is the expected behavior that further confirms that radars do work as search lights rather than as lasers.
>>562327476They have to add a chink one to milk the laddernames.Can you imagine how much they would rake in?
>>562313426you want to approach them at an angle so the bigger sams aren't in the back to redirect the radiation tracking and fire at least 2 per vehicle so the 2nd one doesn't get intercepted on its way in.
>>562327887I think bongaboos would be 100 times more willing to pay for a vulcan than any chink begging for a Tu-16 bodykit
>>562327587Take the zuni loadout, take out the AA at the depots from afar, then destroy the rest. You easily get a smol nuke that way, which you can use to catapult with ccrp onto the next depot. Repeat. Avoid contact with miggers.
>>562313453ima use it as the funny naval ec boogeyman
>>562327342Is that meant to be yukikaze
>>562320587don't forget the ecmI was going for an intercept and ended up ramming them because I couldn't get a lock
this mode is only shit if you have trouble with the short range sams or getting dogged by +3 dedicated fighters
>>562328303Without ECM you'd never ever be able to drop the nuke. I also wonder if that's what's preventing the S-300s and Patriots from firing on you.
>>5623275871. take plane of your choice and go farm a few kills, or alternatively take a-10/su-25/whatever and go plink 5-10 tanks until you get to 250sp2. take mig23/phantom with the 5kt bomb once you can spawn it, set target on the densest cluster of ground units you can see on the map3. max speed towards it and then CCRP lob it from a distance so you can RTB faster, you don't have to pay for more nukes unless you actually die4. repeat indefinitely until you can spawn a bomber, or if you want to win the game sooner instead of just farming score/SL you can switch to 30kt and go toss those at airfields30kt doesn't get you that much more radius for ground targets and costs twice as much if you eat shit, so only worth using if you are going for airfields imo unless you are good at not dying or just don't care about piling up SP
>>562324780I had some guy sperging out because he did have bomb release permissions and couldn't bomb
>>562321928Because they can only complete if their planes have an entire tech generation advantage
>>562327476>>562327496so there is no point in grinding them apart from being an autist collector
>>562328408felt
>>562328470kinda yeah
I wonder if they'll add the other variants of the B-52s so that players who weren't able to play the event can still have one.
>>562328386They could just make it so you can't lock from range, not literally 500m behind them
why do the chinese bots play the yer-2 specificallyit's not like it's particularly fast
managed to shoot down another nuke bomber with the mig-25, but he shot me down tooi had to get super close and use an ir missile since the radar is useless against it
>>562328470They're both insanely cool and iconic. I'm not a collector at all, I haven't done a single points event since they made them active year-round, and I'm certainly getting these bombers even though I know I'll never play them (unless a mode like this gets added permanently and they find a niche there).
>the f111 can carry 1 less 500lb bombs than the b52lmaoalso imagine spading the bear
>>562328693The conventional bombloads are severely gimped at the moment, same as when that WWI British bomber came out last year and didn't get its big bombs until a major update later.
>>562328359How do you have fun in it?
do rewards for depots change if it's full or not
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNp-AVSNBm8Miserysisters?
>>562328527Of course, they'd never leave iconic and widely adopted vehicles unavailable to anyone that didn't play some obscure event
The new event is fun because it combines the infinite spawns and long matches of sim/ec modes with realistic mode mechanics. And it will be gone after the event is done....
>>562328220It's a scene from the cancelled sequel, yes.
>>562329327This is in all likelihood the mode they announced last year for this year as Aerial Warfare and tested components of in the SEAD event so I wouldn't be so hopeless about it.
>>562329539Every fun thing gets removed and we go back to the same boring dogshit we play 24/7
>>562329523I sort of don't mind since I feel the plane designs would have gotten even more abstract and not prettySylph is sex, Mave is basically greebled with how much shit that does nothing is all over her
Am I just cracked out or does shit just stop working sometimes? One game yesterday my game just refused to dispense countermeasures at some point, and I just had a game where I couldn't do anything with the radar.
>>562329196at around 9 minutes he says>taking out even just a small AA emplacement feels like doing something because that means you're opening up this route for yourself or someone else without an AA interrupting themwhat? are we playing the same event?AA respawns out of thin air before you can even rtb
>>562330358I'm having problems with enemy missiles not showing up properly and not telling me its range
>>562330358Once in a blue moon the radar can sperg out, but mapping a button to turn it off and on normally fixes it. Or wait a minute or two. Also make sure that you don't accidentally enable IRST ACM
>Lobbing 27ETs at the slow as fuck big bombersThey never flare even if they have a gorillion of them
To the retard who couldnt figure out how to do jet fighters you should probably find a new game to play cause it was pretty easy to figure out and ive only done tanks before and some props
>>562313453>Only "cool" thing is the double fab5000, and its not even the cool fab5000 from the pe8, just some lame ass version)How so? Pe8 fab5000 has 3350kg TNT, Tu95's 3310kgFab9000 is kinda a fucking letdown, that's rightBut i think both bombers are still WiP, b52's turret just doesn't work. Also it gets thermal targeting pod despite having only dumb bombs
Did they do something to the missiles? I can dodge 99% of them without cms.
>>562331080
>>562331305Im certainly sure they are shittier compared to last year. I'm dodging stuff that would've killed me every time before this.
>>562328470>carpet bombing GRB mapsYeah, what's even the point?
>>562330838I don't think flaring would do anything
>>562331080You can dodge all missiles without cms
>>562331492At the ranges I'm logging it at, it would absolutely fool the missile.25km+ side shots most of the tie with how the spawns work
chink status
>>562331080I imagine the servers lose track if there's too many things flying around at a given time.
>>562331492Flaring will absolutely bamboozle a 27et outside ~1 km. It's not a 9M
>F-14 banned fom the eventMutt teams were already doing bad enough, it's over
>>562331954Unironically thisMissile performance is tied to the server
>>562332063Just the Iranian one
>>562330678>AA respawns out of thin air before you can even rtbNo it doesn't.
>>562332063F14A is available
>>562332192yes it doesyou can destroy the long range sams and they'll be there again if you return
>>562332192I wish that we had access to concrete information about how the mechanics work. I've seen people say that they don't respawn, I've seen people say that they do respawn, and I've seen people claim that respawns are tied to convoys and depots in some way.
>>562332353A and B are both availableno real reason to take the A unless you don't have the B unlocked
>>562332383>I've seen people claim that respawns are tied to convoys and depots in some way.This sounds like the most likely option as it would adequately explain why you hear both of the other statements even though they're mutually exclusive.
How gimped will the F-22 and Su-57 be when they get added?
>>562332369I can't say for sure about those, since I ignore them (they're not a threat), but you absolutely can whittle down the SHORAD, it doesn't come back.>>562332383How about you just play and see?
how come only the sidewinder has rollerons? surely if the most successful missile evar is using it it's good enough for others
>>562332651No one can lock on to them beyond 5km
>>562332664I feel like I'd need to spend forever watching a replay
>>562332651F-22 will come in its version without HMD and 120s will never get any real offbore capability anywaySu-57 wont be gimped in any way whatsoever
>>562332751could be kino
>>562331923find him schizos
>>562332772Should've made bigger missiles bay
>>562332645It would, but gaijin is lazy. Would they implement that?
>>562332772>Su-57 wont be gimped in any way whatsoeverYou're delusional if you think they'll make one plane for one nation completely immune to all IR missiles by implementing its LDIRCCM. It will 100% be omitted for balancing reasons.
>>562332383tank, artillery, and supply convoys are tied to depots in some way. depots also have "capacity" that changesbut it's not really clear how any of it works because they didn't really explain anything>>562332664the spaa guarding depots definitely respawns and does not stay destroyed, only the ones guarding convoys and in those entrenched positions stay dead>just play and seelol
>>562332886they know me)
>>562332940>they wont make one nation better than all the other ones with something no other nation gets access toolol
>>562332907This mode is easily the most effort they put into any gamemode ever and by a long shot at that so I wouldn't be surprised if they did.
>>562332651The f22 will underperform in game since burger pilots will negate all of its advantages by equipping dumb bombs and multipathing into the merge ASAP. >.t I have played with and against American players. Prove me wrong. You can't.
guys this is going to sound crazy but listen hear me outwhat if SAMs only had a limited number of reloads with them, so after magdumping at every bomb on the map they could RUN OUT of missilesand then to get more missiles they would have to be resupplied by like SUPPLY TRUCKS from maybe AMMO DEPOTS or something like thatand then maybe the supply trucks would need FUEL from FUEL depots to keep driving back and forth to resupply them too..
>>562333342Or the SAMs could invalidate all CAS except tossing nukes around
>>562333342There are supply convoys that spawn and move around so they probably did implement what you're describing but didn't set the SAMs to actually have limited ammo.
>>56233358140k tech
Is this event showing us what pilots go through in the ukroruzzia war with all the sams?
>>562332968>the spaa guarding depots definitely respawns and does not stay destroyed, only the ones guarding convoys and in those entrenched positions stay deadOr maybe you're just mistaking one spot for another.
>>562333342what if spaa didn't cheat so you could interdict those convoys
>>562333664nope, the spaa there is much more powerful
>>562333581i wish there was one of these with russian intercepts of the B-52
>>562333664nah, missiles are way too accurate and the enemy radar crew is omniscient
I like the pendulum swinging in this direction
>>562333712you're fucking retarded
>>562333763
>>562333882I've been really enjoying the Mig-23, i want one now
>>562333910Your mother is retarded.
>>562333581Time keeps on slippin...
>>562333948
THAAD in wt when?
>>562334006there's a patriot battery in this marked spot in D7go bomb it, then come back to that spot and tell me they don't respawn, and then kill yourself you stupid nigger
what actually is the difference in functionality between these two bindsthe first just vaguely prompts the box to show up and lock an enemy, sometimes the fifth furthest one in a furballwhile the other one sometimes just refuses to lock, right up until the headonwhat's the one to use
>>562334123
>can't recreate the Patriot vs SU34 because it's a 13.7 planerip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLkMTDMWJyw
>>562332651they will model jamming as being much stronger than stealth, and will give su-57 much better jamming (even though f-22's AESA on its own out-jams anything in the entire russian arsenal including their AWACS)
>>562334094it's crazy to think that playstation is dead now too, what's left? nintendo?
>>562327073modelling a bomber cockpit takes as much effort as modelling another plane (external model)t. worked for gaijin
>>562334352>SHORAD>Patriot Now who's retarded?
>tail gunners>in jet eraidgi
>>562334952the planes were released in 1955/6tail gunners at that point were still considered reasonable protection
>>562334952Better than literally nothing. Also with a good enough radar and FCS it could act as CIWS against incoming missiles.
>>562334907My uncle also worked for Nigtendo.
>>562334952B-52s don't have the Tail gunnert anymore, it's just eletronics or IRCM i think, the Bear though I think they still have, and i don't think they have any systems to help with tracking and etc so Ivan is just eyeballing the F35 chasing him
>>562334938youi've already said the ones at depots respawn, and besides there are shorads next to the patriot batteries too
>>562334356The first one attempts to lock whatever contact is selected on your search scope. The second one swaps your radar into "air combat mode".On early jets, ACM draws a box on your hud and attempts to lock the first thing that it detects within that box. ACM mode is short ranged and meant to be used within visual range. At best endgame planes have ~15 or 16 km range, but earlier jets are bound to around 10km or less for ACM mode. Some more advanced jets integrate ACM mode with the Pilot's head mounted sight instead of drawing a search pattern in front of the nose.
>>562335128You can say you're a woman as much as you like, doesn't make it true. Just like with the respawning depot AA.
>>562335310instead of dilating here you should actually play the game to see that they do respawn, then you can go hang yourself projecting tranny
>>562335538kek
>>562335538Oh, the unintended irony.
>>562335851Oh, the unintended troonery.
>The amount of bumbling retards saying event is bad God we will NEVER have a fun mode because of those subhumans
>>562336195unfortunate
>>562336152I believe it's all intended. You can't blame nature for mental condition. It's not a disease, it's a choice.
Lol
>>562336506How is this funny?
>>562336506This is funny
>>562336195It's just the one or two trannies that pretend their opinion is worth something. Like the guy lying about respawning SHORAD.
>>562336506This has no bearing on balans. People just want the b52
>>562336195see >>562220907If Gaijin has the common sense to filter the subhumans hate Air in general out, the feedback becomes overwhelmingly positive.
>>562336195Now you know how we, submariners feel.
>try to agm a convoy>Osa intercepts all agms>get shot down by an S300man....
>>562337007>subhumans hatesubhumans who hate*
>>562337089Subs have been officially confirmed multiple times though, you have nothing to worry about. The future of this mode however is up in the air, although the amount of effort put into it makes me hopeful they won't let go of it that easily.
>>562333342At least the FlakPzs run out of ammo. No clue about the bigger systems.
>dude has 40 kills just spawncamping people in his 9-13
>>562337990>getting spawn camped by someone with like 2 sarhsGrim
>>562337990Yeah me, your point?
>>562337990>spawncamping peoplehuh?
>>562329196>the hyhyl retard doesn't even know how to use CCRP to not blow up when throwing a nuke
>>562338197He's just flying low and strafing people on the airbases taking off, then Js out once hes out of ammo and missiles lmao
>>562338216He's prop only
>>562338216I have seen so many burgers flying on the deck to drop their nukes at ~60m altitude with ccip like they do when base bombing in air RB
>>562338430You realize that you need to fuck up a lot before anyone can just loiter in guns range over an airfield right?
>>562338463Was he the faggot crying about missiles here yesterday? Sounds about right.
This is the best mode for spading shit ever, and god bless US premium players.
who was it that said strategic bombing mode was being worked on like 6-12 months ago in herehow did he know...
>>562338738idk I just joined a match and saw that happening
>>562338842they literally mentioned it in a devblog
>>562338497Half the fun of this new mode is watching idiots figure out stuff.
>>562338842BVVD said something to the tune in a devblog.Stupid frogposter.
game fun now?
>>562339338Always was.
Do you guys use a soundmod?
>>562339590they are banned currently
>>562334952the Tu-95 fires flares out of one of the rear turrets
what happens after you drop the bomba with the bombers? do you have to fly back and land?
>>562339660game ends when you nuke their big base with the stratbomber
>>562339590
>>562339646Oh really? Why?
>>562339809official reason is that they are rejigging how sound works and they dont want people to complain "i have a sound mod installed and my game broke" or somethingits also suspected that people were using cheat sound mods during tournaments so they disabled it globally for the duration of the tourneys
>>562339737but can I not bomb everything else with it?
>>562340213I mean, I guess you could, but the bombers aren't very fast which is why the spawn point is very close to the enemy airfield
>>562340413Fair, I thought there would be a bigger focus on them or other bombloads in the event.
>>562340061Damn that's so cringe, just watched a gameplay video where they used a soundmod and it sounded nice, oh well
>>562339590I swap between opex and ircsm.
>>562341209And they aren't disabled for you?
Bloody shame that the only viable non-nuclear CAS options that dont result in near guaranteed death are CCRP tossing dumb bombs and dumping rocket volleys from 8-10km away, all to kill 1 (one) AA piece at a timeAA needs to actually follow the rules with ammo limits, radar / IRST locks and line of sight obstructions if this is to work outside of occasional event iterations
The rewards are kinda ass
if you havent dropped a nuke in the event you shouldnt be allowed to give your opinion on it
>>562342620a nuke in a b52 or a nuke in a f4?
>>562338738What can you do about it? Spawn and get killed? Spawn to another base and fly 3 minutes only to find out he was killed already?
>>562342039The IR bombs/AGM-130s work decently well
>>562342772the big one obviously
>>562342039Doesn't really help that we're playing on GM_flatgrass basically
Oh wow they disabled 1 (one) of the ARH slingers america has in the br range! Game mode is fixed!
we can win this
>>562343685if it was GM_flatgrass you'd at least be able to lock on to the ground units without coming straight at them or being right on top of them
The pen values of the new pantsir missile if you use the wiki its own calculatorIf you check apcbc it gets like 300 more mm penBecause stat card only shows 2km pen
>>562342039what also sucks is that you need to be very close to the ground units to spot them if you want to bomb the convoys
How come the Russian RWR on the MiG-29 STILL doesn't show the distinction between Hawk and other radars when it could always do that?
>>562343685>get more hilly terrain>all the SAMs get moved to cover only the low areas instead
Alright, fellow shitters. I figured it out. First you gotta earn your F-4E, so throw Mavericks at things until you get enough points. Pro tip: you don't actually have to see the target to lock it; if it's there the game will lock it for you even if there are trees and shit in the way.Next, take your F-4E and repeat. Finally, take your F-4E and lob nukes onto big groups of enemies from a billion miles away, run home, repeat. I didn't actually bother to read through the threads to figure things out, but maybe you will. You're welcome. It's not so bad after the first little bit. This has got to be like the easiest event to earn points on. WAGMIB
night nuclear thunder when
>before 250 spawn pointscock and ball torture>after 250 spawn pointsturn your brain off
>>562342554Compared to ARB like you can see here
>>562345076With no name tags
>>562345328250sp nuke is a wet fart. 500sp nuke is what you want to use
>>562345520it still deletes depots, convoys, and sam batteries
>>562345454and mixed teams
humilliation ritual
unless they fix the retarded spaa i give up on trying to use dumb bombs to bomb truck convoys and playing the objective as "intended"i'll just missile retards who don't know they have a flare button a then nuke everything
>>562346467That is the sad part. You pvp until nuke and for some reason there is always prey. No idea why ppl let you farm free sp from them instead of just crashing to the ground
>>562346282what are you even complaining about
>>562346467did they ever update anything in these test events while it was up?
For me, it’s gay furry porn, Reddit, Super Nintendo, outer wilds, and playing Sweden in Warthunder.
>mavericks are missing the convoys and hitting like 200m behind them
no b52 i guess because i can't get a game with US
Would a Yak-141 work well for this event? it's the only high tier Russkie I have atm (besides the Su-27s, but hey are banned)I only play GRB, but the R-27ER deathsticks are pretty easy to use
Why is BMP-2 acting like a Gepard with 100% accuracy?
>>562348637its fine
>>562348637No reason to play the higher br bracket on ussr
>>562346467lolNobody is forcing you buddy. Go back to the totally non missile-centric ARB mode then.
>premium time ran out mid-mission when I get a ridiculous amount of RP and nuke the final base
The NATO/PACT markers could be a bit smaller or just in map mode.
>>562349053deranged troon
>>562349439nato symbology is so fucking ass
cool how you literally cannot earn the big nuke by doing the "objective" because only player kills give any actual amount of spI guess in theory if you farmed for an hour straight without ever getting killed once you could get 2500sp from nuking clusters of AI units but my god
>>562351108I got my first big nuke by destroying AI with little nukes.
>>562351316Once I get the SP to have little nukes it seems that enemy mig 29s just lock onto me and ignore the rest of blue team, I could very much drop down to F4 tiers but the F18 gives more RP
Wish I could save the weight and take off these trash AIM-7E's from the F-4E
>>562351507just fire them at the blue enemies
>>562351108tossing nukes at ground targets in the mig23 gets you IRIAF amounts of SP as long as you keep rearming and don't die constantly
I have exclusively had matches where the enemy AI units are IL2s when I play as the sovietsHow is this game so fucking shit
So to toss I ping a place with the selector, then line up the circle with the thingy whilst pulling up and release?
>>562346282i did mine in two games man, figure it out
>>562352889never played phantoms before but it's day and fucking night vs something like a 9-13
>dogfight some migger>bunch of nukes start going off on nearby depots>my own airfield gets blown upthis is fucking peak
>consolenigger somehow gets the niggernvke>drops it on the wrong fucking airfieldjesus christ, americans are hopeless
>>562344226is that more than the LOSAT?
>>562352464while pulling up just hold spacebar (or whatever key you use to drop) and it will auto release
this mode is great filter. if you find this mode to be good you'd have to be on a shit ton of drugs.
>>562353264it's only fun if you play russia
>>562353264im going to be honest, big events like these are always an excuse to put my liver to the test
>>562353087It's so fucking sick>nap of the earth flying through 8 quadrillion SAMs>come across a HAWK battery>drop mini nuke>11 kills>desperately hug the ground the whole way backI was a moron before not using the tactical nukes, they print points and SP.
>>562352140It would be easier to fire ARMs at the blue enemy.
>>562353195oh I see I was just tapping it and it wasnt dropping. I mastered it now. thx
No anton I wont play 70% over games give me a fresh one
>>562351507>burgermutts don't know how to jettison munitionscan't make this up!
>>562351507Why not just jettison them?
"evening" btwthere's two AI targets in front of me in this picture, and a bunch of trees and buildingscan you see them? I can't
>>562354471That's obviously a thing. How about them not being glued to every fucking F-4 loadout?
>>562354471>>562354505>just jettison them every time you spawnlooney troon logic
WHY DOES THIS NIGGER FUCKING CREW LOCK YOU FOR LEAVING 90% OVER GAMES YOU FUCKING NIGGERMONKEY ANTON I HOPE THAT OTHER ANON THAT THREATED TO MURDER YOU SUCCEEDS
Is it possible to use the tail turrets on the B-52 and Tu-95 as CIWS?
>the luminous path is closed to gweilosvftf?
>>562355274please speak english, pedro
>>562355274satanstar M8 LAC
>>562353135Has there ever been a bigger in-game showing of amerigolem player retardation before?
>>562355274How do you invent a sword?
Too bad you can't use ARMs against the strategic bombers, they are not drawn in to ecm like they should. Although even gimped and used against some overpowered spaa they are still usable as long as you or some other player keep distracting the anti air battery while the missile is in flight, and they don't care about weather.Laser guided bombs just seem completely unusable in this mode, even against undefended ground units, because you either maneuver and lose laser lock or get shot down.
>>562354834is your monitor broken or something?
so what's the proper way to use the anti radation missiles? i have good success using them against the convoys since they don't seem to shoot the missiles down
>>562355128you can shoot missiles down with bullets in this game, but it requires a direct hit so good luck. bullet dispersion will make it luck based.and missiles won't proxy fuze on bullets
>>562356483WRONGwell half wrong but still
>10 minute queue time and counting for high-tier event USAwhat a good decision to split this bracket!
Which US bracket do I play if I want to be done with the star today instead of enjoying how cool the hangar looks?
so, you can get the Tu-95 loading screen but there isn't a B-52 one? Was it meant to be one of each plane bcs why are there two Bear loading screens:?
>>562357157Literally any, just hop on get enough for the F4 with the big bomba and just bomb the pesky AA sites and Airfields once those are down
Yeah, that looks like a good map for TWELVE POINT FUCKING SEVEN
>>562357204one is a loading screen the other is a profile background, the B-52 grind gives you 2 decals
>>562356791why play high tier? just play default gibsmedat tier
>>562357439i want to spade the f14b and work on my super hornet research
>>562357371oh excuse me for my poor manners but, that's gay and retarded!!!
>>562357319What I'm asking is in which one will I spend less time waiting around for it to find me a game.
>>562357568Anything russian at 12.0+ plus should get you a game instantly since there's a lot of F-18s around
>>562356791I had several 30 min and a 45 min wait time as US yesterday before they split anything so
I'm looking for game recommendations while I wait for this nigger game to get me into the event.
>>562358080balatro
>>562354974Then enjoy flying with them shitter.
>>562358080i play eu5 when i get bored of wt
Tips for getting locks with Mig-23s radar?
>>562358531point towards enemy and press lock radar key
>>562358531MTI works well, but only if there's ground behind your target
F-15A or F-14B? I thought that maybe the Phoenix wouldn't be so bad as bombers would rather fly low than notch the missile.
>>562358661f15 has pain9ms
>>562358661Phoenixes don't work too well. The F-15A has a better radar set, payload and flight performance, so go for that one. AIM-9Ms work really well, as do the AIM-7s.
25 minutes on queue, I should've gone to the shitter while I waited
>>562358661anyone who tells you to the aim-7 is better in this game mode has not played the game modepoint your f14 towards the enemy midmap runwayripple them off at 25kmcollect your kills as you're already back at your airfield rearmingrepeatdo not subject yourself to contesting 27ERs in a joust with an aim-7
Is this their new strategy? Restricting the vehicles so that the queue's so fucking long I have to spend 5k GE if I want to get the B-52? I know they're going for a special scenario but Jesus Christ Gaijin, just give the soviets the base Su-27/Su-33 so that I may find a game without a 45 minute wait time.
I wouldn't mind to have B-52 and the Tupolev. No I won't jump through retarded arbitrary hoops to get it.
>>562359089>rearminglol just j out its way faster
>>562359102Too many shitters complained about the day 1 version, so this is what we get. Always.
>>562359445Chinkoid behavior
>>562359445sure, whatever, the point is that the 54 is far less insufferable to use in the top-end bracket than the 7
>>562360038enjoy your landing and rearming larp
>>562359363so you're paying 17,982 GE to get both of them?
>>562360236He didn't say he was getting them.
>>562360004the queue times in the day 1 version were the same so what exactly are you complaining about?
how are there 10 niggas searching on USSR, just fucking make this shit a FFA
When will these niggers unfuck their overtuned AA?Next week?Fucking niggers, it's almost fun but the nigger osas are FUCKING FUN RUINING NIGGEEEEERS
>>562360497MiG-23ML owners eating lots of SL tonight
>>562358661>>562359089This. The airfields are so close together it makes ARH missiles busted. Just throw your shit at enemy airfield, no need to maintain lock or anything - it will go bulldog and then blast some helpless retard as he's taking off and incapable of doing anything about it. With IRIAF it was even worse because you could launch pretty much as soon as you took off and got some speed.
i'm retarded someone tell me how cas works (nuclear thunder), if I use the dumb bombs i have to use the stupid targeting circle computer but then I can't really do anything against moving targets? and if I use the laser stuff i need to keep lock which is hard and the tv stuff doesn't have it's own guidance? never played us/russia either
I see...
Not even JIP can fix this shit
>>562360860>Instantly knows where you are at and will track you through the ground>Radar perma turned off>Fires at full speed>Launches and guides multiple missiles at the same timeReminder that this isn't even an oversight for just this event and has been an issue since Heli PvE was added like 6 years ago.
>>562355128the only real defensive option for them is they get electronic warfare (it's hard to lock them)i vaguely remember hearing one of them has DIRCM like helicopters also, dunno if true.in any case, if you're shitting out chaff and flares, it's gonna be really hard for people to missile you.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQ_nM9YIIBQ
So you put the IRCM shit on the bombers, but the TRAM literally can't do shit against the enemy AA
looks like I'm paypiging it out now because i can't use iran f14, thanks
>>562361805git gud
>>562361805anon the free F-4E rapes in the lower BR bracket unless you just suck
>>562361805Just use the F15A, it clubs.
>>562360423I got US matches within 5 minutes.
>>562361805deserved retard tax
Was I banned while I wasn't looking? Surely this can't be right.
>>562362592good for youthere were several posts bitching about US queues in this very thread as little as 20 hours ago
Why would one play US when USSR are the ones that are always winning games?
So i just got into an instant match with my F5C, maybe just US top tier is a shitshow
>event allows me to use R-24s for the first time>wildly outperforms sparrows>fast as all fuck>don't randomly go off into space without tracking despite being locked onWhat a shock, look, it's my shocked face.
>>562360497kek its that fucking bad?Someone tell me if su25t is in the lower bracket lmao
>>562362989Because I can't unlock the B-52 playing soviet aircraft.
What light tanks do you guys use for nip 11.7? The two Type 90s are fantastic, but every light tank is a full 2.0 BRs lower. Just take the best two Type 16s? Does the Type 24 offer anything over the Type 25?>tfw Type 89 isn't good enough to bring up that high
>>562363448su-25t is in the default freebie lineup with mandatory 2xR-60m and 2xR-73 in most loadouts. But it's kind of a fat pig for this mode.
>>5623610931. no, do not use the targeting circle. Mark a point on the map with the middle mouse button (a red square outline will appear), then you will get a vertical green line in the plane view. You line up your plane to it. You will see a little circle on the line as you get closer to the target, the circle will slowly move down to the other indicator on the line. This is basically a ballistic computer that calculates your release point (CCRP - Constantly Calculated Release Point). When it gets near, press and hold 3 to authorize the bomb drop automatically, when it intersects, it will release. You use this by coming to a distance to the target, then sharply pulling up and have the bomb yeet forward, using physics and shit to inertia-throw the bomb and keeping yourself out of harm's way. 2. don't do any of that without a nuke, just use unguided rockets.
>>562363587I found it very enjoyable without the whole retardo humiliation ritual of firing missiles that get flared and its retarded amount of flares and IRCM make it a great dogfighter against retards in fagtoms that try to engage
>>562363575the Type 87 RCV, its just overall better for top tier.
>>562363575basically just forego using the light tanks once you have the type 90s and the tkx/type 10 just seals the deal
>>562363825too gay and randomly likes to cut outjust use the aiming circle in freecam after pulling your plane up
>>562364318The 20mm prototype one? That one did seem pretty good.
>Belly land the F4>somehow not slowing down>Instead i'm gaining speed>overshoot the Runway and crash into the treesNow that was epic>>562364742yea your backups outside the MBTS is that little thing and the AA type87 aka Guntank
>>562364941lardass F4
>>562363575>Does the Type 24 offer anything over the Type 25?No, the Type 24 is just worse in every way. The unmanned turret does nothing and the ammo is a guaranteed one shot. With the Type 25 you could lose both turret crew and not suffer any penalty due to the hull crew and you even get the turret spall liner. I would say Type 24/25 are worth taking just for the Mk310 ABM being a decent heli killer especially if your only other AA is the Type 03. Japan is stuck waiting until the CCV to have a decent top tier light tank, and hopefully with the Jaguar and Ajax being added it means other CT cannons will be coming at some point. At least at the end of this long wait we will get a rapemobile, but I wouldn't put it past gaijin to fuck up its implementation.
>>562361093No real reason to bother with ammo depots and regular targets.Spawn in something that can kill air, get 500 sp and then pop into the midsized nuke slinger and then just fly off to the side, mark a base with your CCRP like >>562363825 and drop nunkers on the nearest side bases. If you do that enemies wont even spawn near you and come there. Then you just repeat the process and top score the game. You probably wont get the big basednuke but who cares
>>562363825Done the marking and line point before with guided munition before, but Is 3 the default bind for CCRP release, do i have to hold it down and will it really release surely and only when lined up with the target and upon hitting the toss point?
i dont really know what i expected from the ajax but its just not really very fun>terrible locked zoom on both commander and gunner sight>manned turret which just gets penned and instakilled almost every time>no atgm>not faster than anything else at the tier>crew shaken to death by the end of the match even if you dont get shot
>>562362207how the fuck do you select the brackets?
>>562365345keybind automatic bomb release with ccrpturn it onhold your drop bomb key ( the target circle will get 4 locked in lines when you do)
>>562365620just dont bring anything
did you know the KAMAZ trucks used by the s300 and most heavy duty military russian trucks are made by Belarus? did you also know ukrainian and russian farming industry only exists thanks to Belarusian made tractors?Did you ALSO know all russian buses are made by belarus?
Just hit that 18x destroyed with the nook
>>562363825>>562365143thanks bwos
>>562366652
>>562365345I haven't changed my binds in forever, 3 is bomb release for me. Just hold bomb release button. You'll even get the text on the bottom of the screen saying bomb release authorization.
if you drop the nuke on the main AF before destroying all the little AFs you're a gay little fag!!!!
>>562366772You're welcome. Unless you're that faggot tranny Linyka. In that case I hope a Geran embeds itself in your forehead.
>>562365632Okay, i test flew the Pasta Thunderstreak and got it now, bound CCRP, toggled on, held space and it did the thing all according to plan, but how do i make the view not try to follow the released bomb?
>>562367220you let go of space?
>>562367359I did, but can i like make it not happen at all?
>air RB is just a big furball >:(Nuke mode:>woaw! This furball in the middle is amazing!Why are NPCs like this?
>>562367220Holy shit.
>>562367414There should be a key that lets you unbind the camera thingy, I have mine on U to see the boom, It's called.... "Tracking camera Bomb/Torpedo"
>>562367468unlimited respawning, and the fact that its not the cesspit that is simpeople loved the Tier IX april fools but utterly despise top tier tanks
Why doesn't the B-52 get, Glide bombs, More bombs, Cruise Missiles, Cluster bombs?
>Fly my 141 and compete against ten billion F-15s/F-14s/F-16s/F-18sor>fly my Su-24 and shoot down clueless babies with laser guided ATGMS (while leaving the burger Gen 4's stuck in the queue)I'm going to have FUN tonight boys.
>>562367696CMs could just spawn off map.
Imagine the can of worms that is the B-52 loaded with SDBs, or even worse, loaded with Stormbreakers
>>562368206Total T-series death
>>562368279also, B-1B lancer when?>144 SDBs
crazy how these AAs just kill any sort of verticality to this mode
>>562368561Just wait until they put stinger and igla everywhere on the front line.
>>562367548I got the track under U (default?) too but it just keeps happening and only when i drop in the CCRP mode, goes back to normal upon button release.
so why is the S-300 so oppressive in game but IRL i see it jobbing constantly
>>562368910you won't believe the answer
>>562369006go ahead, i can take it
>>562368871And then when i press U it goes to tracking the falling bomb as it should but that's when i want it to, not upon every drop.
>>562368910this same question could be asked of pretty much every piece of soviet/russian federation equipment
>Both teams destroyed all airfields but the main one>Have to fly from one end of the map to the Other>to fight over each others S300/Patriot nestsThis is BEYOND shit
>>562369278Constant S-300 collateral is a null operated thing, though.
