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>Download - https://hsr.hoyoverse.com/en-us/home

>4.1 Preview Page - https://act.hoyoverse.com/puzzle/hkrpg/e20260313version_1365/index.html

>Version 4.1 Trailer: "Unraveled for Daybreak"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqQqHgt4frU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMt1zaLUa08
>Ashveil Character Trailer — "The Wolf is Coming"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nXcEPRksLA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6zuiPxJ15w

>Current Character Banners: Ashveil, Hyacine + Asta, Moze, Misha - https://www.hoyolab.com/article/44312026

>New Drip Marketing:
>Silver Wolf LV.999 (5* Imaginary Elation) - https://www.hoyolab.com/article/44129793
>Evanescia (5* Physical Elation) - https://www.hoyolab.com/article/44140823
>Elation Trailblazer (5* Lightning Elation) - https://www.hoyolab.com/article/44152517

>Redeemable Codes - https://hsr.hoyoverse.com/gift
AceDetective
STARRAILGIFT

>/hsrg/ Tools & Resources
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>Nerfed
>Still stronger than SW both at EO and E2
>SW has only 1 open slot left (sustain), while Eva has 2 (sustain + support). Future guaranteed
Sorry for being better than the main push
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Peach
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MOGGED
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Yuri general
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L-la-la-lava!
Ch-ch-ch-chicken!
Gui's Lava Chicken, yeah, it's tasty as hell
Ooh, Kafkacita, now you're ringing the bell
Crispy and juicy, now you're having a snack
Ooh, super spicy, it's a lava attack!
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>>562322141
Both SW and Eva have 2 open slots. Yao is not making it to the final team.
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Post sluts craving for melanin poles
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>>562322429
You first
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Is Pearl got Screwllum'ed?
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>>562322373
Smells like cope in here
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Why's Aventurine SP Elation though?
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>>562322373
42 day banner btw
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Mywife love!
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>>562322429
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Every shitposter in this thread. Could. Be. ME!
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Lloyd and Tio when
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Correct pulls for 4.x?
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Incest
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>>562322494
That's what's strange to me
You'd think a Sampo SP would be perfect for an elation unit
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Retards will spend their last money on sw or evaslop and then nuclear bomb Himeko SP vaporize them both
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>>562322661
Skip everyone
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>>562322141
What support they could make that would only benefit Eva?
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>>562322661
Rin and Gilkek
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>>562322661
Amphoreus reruns
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>>562322553
phew im safe
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Playable Beatriz has only ever been mentioned in this suspicious leak
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If I were to start playing today and wanted Nihilux or Ashveil who should I pull for to support them?
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I'm mourning Aven SP.
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>>562322710
>Sampo SP
Anon, he doesnt exist
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>>562322590
2005 tier graphics
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>>562322867
>Ashveil
Wait for Tribbie rerun
>Nihilux
Nobody knows
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Phainon and Aglaea should kiss already
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>>562322494
So we get 1 male for the new patch, remembrance having 0 males is still wild
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>4.0 Sparxie, Yaoquang
>4.1 Ashveil
>4.2 SW SP, EVA
>4.3 Blade SP, fate collab
>4.4 Himeko SP
>4.5 Sigga SP, Robin SP
>4.6 blank
>4.7 blank
>4.8 Nihilux
Two patches worth of characters and that's assuming nihiliux is running solo, so the rest have to share a patch
We still have stephen lloyd, opal, pearl, cat girl maid and harmony scorpion
The only characters with a high probability of being playable are currently Pearl and Stephen
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>>562322661
Monomem, himeko sp
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fuck sparxie
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>>562322715
>Supposedly break slop or FUA
>Hag
Himeko is DOA
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>>562322494
Aven has canonically been invited to join the Fools. Him getting a Mask makes sense.
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>>562322867
Ashveil leaked team is Blade and Aven
We dont know anything about nihilux but she is likely for Eva or Silver wolf 999
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>>562322985
What a terrible year
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>>562322661
ampho reruns
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Labubu, what do we think of them?
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>>562322508
See you in 3 weeks.
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SPslop ruined 4.X
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>>562323115
>Ashveil leaked team is Blade and Aven
This makes no sense if Aven SP is Elation.
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>>562322831
SP aventurine in 4.5 checks out with newest leak too. If this leak is true then we're getting 2 Elation sustainer? Pearl for SW and Nihilux for Eva?
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>>562322985
>>562323149
This year is already shaping up to be better than amphoreus since these are all characters that people want and a world that isn't closed off and is actually relevant , unlike shartphoreus
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>>562322494
He's more Elation than fucking silver wolf
At least he was personally invited to the Tavern
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>>562323115
I see how much longer is his banner I gotta see if I have to buy rolls to get him or not
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>>562323252
SP Aventurine in 4.5 with Robin i'm the same patch was leaked MONTHS ago by Luna, that leaks means jackshit
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>>562323234
Aglaea is REM and she is not in the rem team
Aven path dont matter
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>>562323064
They won't kill her like that
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>Marco is here
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I'd rather have Robin SP be the elation support...
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>>562323332
That's because Agalea isn't part of the HP meta, not because she's Remembrance. Elation is inherently built on having other Elation characters in the team, we've been over this.

To deviate now means that Aven SP has to somehow allow non-Elation characters to assist with the Elation DMG formula.
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I will have both Ashveil and Aventurine SP as my husbands
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>>562323331
but where does that leave the harmony scorpion girl?
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Total Madam Herta love
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>>562323483
We just got Crit Eva before V3 nerf. it's Possible. I doubt he'll be in SW/Eva team even if he's elation
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>>562323483
Aven will just have a trace saying every fua from the team generate aha/ lines whatever is called, you are making a problem from something that will not be one
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>>562323261
kys marcotroon
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Bwos I just got my husbando's LC on my 33rd roll!
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give me a drink, bartender
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>>562323460
New Robin is gonna be new Himeko's support most likely
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>>562323331
Not Luna. Luna is a schizo and full of shit.
The most reliable leaks always come from Full Stop-chan who was the one that originally leaked it.
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>>562323641
Elation works with crit stats. The reason Eva works with normal buffers better is because the 2 elation buffers are extremely bad.
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>>562323623
why the fuck you call her scorpion?
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What's our opinion on Vivian Banshee
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>>562322494
>Why's Aventurine SP Elation though
Was he supposed to be preservation again or something? Retard
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>>562323641
If he's also a main DPS, of course not.

>>562323679
I'd rather be skeptical than be optimistic. There's nothing so far with Hoyo's track record in releasing new Paths to make me think they'll do that.
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>>562323836
Don't play ZZZ but I like elegant ladies with umbrellas
Is she a vampire too?
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>>562323829
she has a scorpion tattoo and her braid has a scorpion stinger on the end of it
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>he _______
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We will all be rolling for wormxodia FUA btw
The most soulful soulless team in the game.
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Skipping all SP slop.
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>>562323829
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>>562323938
i do this
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Isn't Full stop chan Genshin leaker too? How is all of his leak accurate? Is he Hoyo insider sent to deliberately spread controlled leaks?
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>>562323918
She's a banshee
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>>562324008
probably
it's why we haven;t had any new characters get leaked and it's just SPslop
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>>562324041
Cute lesbians
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>>562324036
Oh like literally? Cool
does she scream
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>>562323714
why did you roll for a free lightcone...?
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>>562323990
This dress will look like shit on her model, just like aglaea's
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>SP slop flopped
>New characters flop (Amphoreus)
So whats the solution?
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I'm a woman and I roll for males and their cones but I'm more sexually attracted to females. Does that mean I'm straight or gay?
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>>562324239
Your 2nd premise is flawed the solution is remaking your prompt.
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>>562324239
For (You) to leave.
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>>562324259
You roll for males so you're homosexual
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>>562324185
Free? But I was taking a break from gacha games last summer and playing HI3rd instead.
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>>562324259
You love pidi
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>>562324363
How does that work?
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>>562322148
>Sampo SP was already debunked by Luna months ago sadly
>Luna
So the same leaker who said that it was physically impossible to change a main push character and that Yae was still the shill anniversary unit right up until the trailers proved it was actually SW
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>>562324484
What the hell is pidi?
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>>562324185
Cause I'm retarded I guess?
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>>562324259
hello kitten
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>>562324635
hihihi
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>>562322494
4.0 elaborates on both why Aventurine is a possible Fool and why he isn't.

>Sparkle: To become a Fool, one must experience at least one such instance of destiny: the moment of masking one's face.
>Sparkle: Through the mask's eyeholes, we gain a different perspective, finally seeing how the universe is simply churning with endless jokes and the absurd nature of our existence as living beings.
Aventurine is already wearing the facade of a carefree gambler. He's not though because he plans and prepares for every single gamble he does, according to 3.8 anyway.

>Sparkle: If life's cruel, don't beg for fairness. Dance! Shake away that sadness until it's all well-mixed with the joy in your body
>Sampo: Don't be too shocked, you two. Let me share a little secret about how we Masked Fools stay mentally healthy...
>Sampo: Drink a mood-lifter like "Bomb's First Drop," and all the harmful memoria in your body — you know, the pain, the worries — gets purged in one go.
>Sampo: That's how Fools pull pranks and have a blast without a shred of guilt.
Aventurine can't let go of the sadness and the survivor's guilt. That's why he joined the IPC instead of the Tavern. From the character stories, Aventurine thought he could still payback or do something for his planet at the time. Dunno if this sadness and guilt changed after his walk through nihility
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>>562322429
But I don't have any pictures of your mom
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>>562325158
>>Sparkle: If life's cruel, don't beg for fairness. Dance! Shake away that sadness until it's all well-mixed with the joy in your body
I always knew she was a strip dancer...
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dont' post anymore leaks unless it's a non SP character
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Aglaea loves Phainon
Phainon loves Aglaea
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Bronya RABUUUUU!
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If you're rolling for SPs, you support Hoyo's creatively bankrupt ideas
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>>562325412
It's called alts
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https://poal.me/cw7b3y
https://poal.me/cw7b3y
https://poal.me/cw7b3y
Be honest!
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>>562325412
Most gachas have alts, genbabby
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>>562325532
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>>562322661
Whoever you like :)
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>>562325412
>liking established characters is... bad!
>you should get excited for this new one patch character that you'll never see again!!!!!
mmmmmnyo
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>>562325532
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I'm living for 4.4
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>>562325705
>>562325579
I can't wait for 5.0 for more SPsss Altsss
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>>562325705
The irony of one patch characters having more screentime than both forms of your filler character
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>>562325532
it turns out... there are some strangers to love. it turns out... not everyone knows the rules...
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Sparkle lost all her credibility with the shit she did in Farewell, Penacony. The most nothing of all nothing characters. Elation my ass
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I'm expecting a melty when SW999 gets atk scaling back into her kit
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>>562325532
btw escorts don't count
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>>562326032
She won't. SPD scaling is the only way she can remain relevant as the battleship unit
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I love my wife Firefly!
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I HATE PIDI !!!
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>>562326029
She saved your life while you were floating in space unconscious near Amphoreus. Shut the fuck up.
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k*ll f*f*.
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>>562326150
calm down sparkle
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https://hoyo.link/PycvcNs9E
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>>562326112
They can just make ATK convert into SPD while keeping the SPD into elation conversion
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>>562326215
it was already in my head this really wasn't necessary
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>>562326140
You deserve to be molested
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>>562326140
break fofo legs
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>>562326032
they already revamped her kit to speed
zero chance they revert in the next week and a half
at most they'll add atk conversion
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>>562326305
We're all saying this
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>>562326215
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>>562326426
you wouldn't get this from any other guy
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casual happy kot
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>>562326426
Balde...
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>>562326683
asking for it
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>>562326754
A headpat and cuddles!
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>>562326683
Cute looks like she flops
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>You deserve to be molested
>break fofo legs
>We're all saying this
So much hate for fofo
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>>562326830
something's off about this anatomy I think.
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>>562326426
blade after coming back from fortnite
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so pretty...
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>>562326812
I'm a day1 fofo skipper and I'm going to redeem her E1 at 4.2 launch
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NTE is the star rail killer, we're finished
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>>562326683
>>562326798
Yes...head cut...happy kot...
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>>562326812
Fofo doesn't deserve any of this
Fofoposters, however...
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>>562326916
>filthy skippers can get her for free now
it's nyot fair...
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I do think its funny that I kept collecting bricks since playing from 1.0 even spending occasionally and the only character which still holds up is Huohuo and sometimes Sunday because I skipped Cerydra
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>>562326812
As anon said I meant it to the fofoposters not fofo
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>>562305105
>Yao
>brick
Every showcase used her though? She's BiS for SW and Eva... and Sparxie if you pulled her.
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Ya* is shit
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honestly fofo's sp00k patch was great back then and I don't know why i ever skipped her to begin with, guess cause she's a hideous green sewer rat
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>HoS and other testers say Sparxie isn't needed anymore in SW team
Sad. One more time loyal players are being rugpulled immediately.
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>>562326812
I believe she deserves that and more! I'd even say rape but she's too ugly to be raped!!!
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>>562327390
This is all leaker cabal misinformation. Once 4.2 rolls around my E2S1 SW+E2S1 Sparxie will be able to 0-cycle the Elation shill boss for sure
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>>562327390
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The lack of 4 stars characters make these newer planets so empty. They could even make 4 star SPs for Guinafen, Sushang, Hook, and QQ fitting for Planarcadia.

For such a "fun" themed planet, we're all too tied to a mid plot instead of having fun. These minigames just don't cut it.
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>>562327390
Are these the same leakers that said Yao won't work with her?
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>>562327390
Future rail...
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>>562327542
4-stars are just bad and require far more pulls to E6 than just getting E0 of a 5-star.
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>>562327483
we only take in account low cost clears here gweilo, anything above 4 cost doesn't count
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>>562327542
How should 4* characters save game from lack of content?
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>>562327542
This secondary characters are important for good stories
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>>562327763
the non main push characters are the secondary characters
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>>562327390
As long as you have HER you can play whoever you want and that's beautiful.
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Good afternoon! I hate Sparkle.
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>>562327492
I have Yao. And Sparxie.

Mihomo do the worst shit possible, they ruin the trust, with such behavior after some time nobody will pull anyone unless they are overloaded with PAWA, out of fear to be rugpulled.
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>check SW vid with Yao
>see comments of people already regretting Sparxie
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>>562327916
Sampo wouldn't say that
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Please keep Pearl free from elationslop
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>>562327661
That has never been the case with the amount of events Hoyo pulls that give out a 4* character selector

>>562327758
Would rather enhance the existing content should it be tied with the side characters. You see these minigames reusing characters from Amphoreus, that's the result of a lack of them.

>>562327763
Agree

>>562327861
Grim
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>>562327896
Thank you Madam Yao Guang for being bis for every elation and allowing me to choose whoever I want
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>>562327661
Gallaspud comes online at E2
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>>562327991
she's fine, people need to stop falling for the low-cost propaganda
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>>562328070
>That has never been the case with the amount of events Hoyo pulls that give out a 4* character selector
Yeah and those take like 1.5 years to fill out minimum. Even worse if you skip the rateup banner
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>>562327763
we had 12 secondary characters just last planet
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>>562327861
Aventurine wasn't a main push
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>>562328084
Back in the day you could kinda work with him under that. I know because I did it. But that was when Himeko superbrick still worked
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>>562327763
Fuck off, secondary. You don't get to be in the game.
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Even 33 trillion secondary characters cant save the story if the main one is dogshit
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>>562327763
They're good for side content like events (see Qingque, Hook, Guinaifen, Pela, Asta etc.) but for the main story not really.
Plus we have characters like Kuchiba who never end up playable anyway.
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>>562328362
>They're good for side content like events (see Qingque, Hook, Guinaifen, Pela, Asta etc.) but for the main story not really.
Your Gallagher? Your Misha?
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Amphoreus events all revolved around hyacine and everyone liked them
Fuck off ghost hunting chuds.
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>>562328070
The problem isn't the lack of characters but lack of content. there's nothing to do in the game
6h of mq, 1h of event and 30 days of logging in for 5 minutes and shitting in this thread
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>>562327390
Literally fuck this dogshit game. Why they're making us play all these mental gymnastics just to know what fucking team needs fucking what and in a simple beta update could destroy the compatibility of teammates after enticing the players to roll those teammates. Like the buffs and nerfs of Cipher during her beta.

Fuck this pile of dogshit game. Fuck hoyo. Fuck shaoji. Hope this retarded game burns.
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Which heirs should have been 4 stars? I say Hysilens for sure but not sure about the rest.
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>>562328309
He is the actual main push though, above shit like Mancheron and Blandfly
>more screentime and relevance
>more fanarts than both combined (billions weren't uploaded on the booru, as the Theoros I can certify this claim)
>made more money due to merch
Hence why he's getting a SP first
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>>562328764
Hysilens, Cipher, Aglaea, Analxa, Mydei
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>>562328760
Not an issue for remembrance I'm afraid
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>>562328760
Not an issue if you don't follow leaks
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>>562328764
None of them
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>>562328764
All of them except Hyacine
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>>562328845
>Mono-Remembrance subDPS support
>Except for that one
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>>562328831
Cipher as a 4* is actually retarded. 5* only makes sense due to her plot significance. A 4* carrying the flame chase that hard would make no sense.
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>>562328764
Honestly none with the way the story was set. And if there's no story reason to make them 4-stars there's very little reason to make them 4-stars for gameplay either
Giving out free 5-stars is just infinitely better
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>>562328764
None they are 12 factors necessary for the creation of the universe, the entirety of 4.x and penacony except the main pushes should be 4 stars first.
Don't even bother replying.
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>>562328876
If you don't follow leaks you don't have YG either so your bricked either way
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>>562328764
I was gonna make a list, but then I realized it was almost all of them...
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>>562328810
Firefly and Sigga are both shitting in Mancheron's grave don't pit them against each other
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Is nihilux actually from adlivun? I thought nanook destroyed it
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>>562328976
>the importance on the story determines whether they are 5 star or 4 star
Not a problem in fgo...
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>>562328976
All of Penacony's plot relevance was in its 4*s and (then) NPCs
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God I love her
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Let this be a lesson to not skip supports and skip sub-dps instead since they're designed to get bricked (unless it's monorem).
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Acheron is not a man
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>>562329108
When did I ask about fgo?
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>>562329108
What else would it be? kek
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>>562329129
I think this every 15 minutes or so
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>>562329129
peach
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>>562329129
Same but mainly in Mem form
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>>562329108
No one cares about your flash game
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Obligatory shilling patches for every limited shitter is what ruined Amphoreus and no HIVdei and tribbies sob story wasn't important for the story
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Post NPC characters that should've been 4 stars. It doesn''t even matter if they're dogshit ingame
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>>562329151
Sparxie will be saved in v4. INFINITE MYSTERY BOXES

TRUST THE SYSTEM
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>>562328764
All except Phainon, Cyrene, Evernight and Dan3
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>>562329291
Nobody agrees with you.
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>>562329151
Nah more like wait for flagship and then roll
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>>562328764
>Which heirs should have been 4 stars?
tribbie anaxa mydei cerydra aglaea cipher
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>>562329309
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My fgo wife is a 4 stars... more popular than the 5 stars introduced in the same chapter
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>>562329291
marcotroon
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>>562329108
>Not a problem in fgo...
and genshin...
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>>562329291
>is what ruined Amphoreus
I'd say the opposite, it gave all of them room for development and for people to actually grow to like them.
If we go off Boorubux alone, even the worst performing Heirs get multiple times the art of your average 4-star, and beat 5-stars like Lingsha/Yunli/Rappa/Jade/Huohuo easily despite being out for a way shorter time
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>>562329492
We love Marco here
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>>562329465
sewage rat whore
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>>562329605
No one says that
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>will have to roll 3 worms for FuA
They shit you have to do for your fav...
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players here are conditioned to not like 4* no matter what unless they're memes
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If they were going to make Aglaea a team to be on par with current high tier teams what would it look like? Is it even mechanically possible to get her there without a gigabusted support that would just make other carries better than her instead?
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>>562329309
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>>562329794
Tell that to Mancheron bros
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>>562329309
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>>562329605
many are saying this
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>>562329794
who? ashveil isn't even good for her, he is just dragging her corpse to the finish line lol
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>>562329794
>have to roll 3 worms for your canonically double wormed favorite character
oh no the horror
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It's fucking weird how conditioned people are here to not accept nor want new 4-star characters.

Do you fags even work at Hoyo to push this shit?
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>>562329309
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>>562330003
Can you give me a single good reason for a 4-star unit in this day and age when they can just give out free 5-stars instead?
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Now that I think about it Amphoreus is like 8 patches of Kakaurines sob story back to back no wonder it killed the game
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>>562329309
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>>562330023
She's a future 5* retardsis
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>>562330003
Because they serve no purpose you are just attached to how old gacha work.
Absolutely retardation on your part.
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>>562330062
you didn't even play it through so naturally you'd think that
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>>562329794
uh oh flopxiao no damage no novaflare become shit in 2 patches olol
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>>562329075
It is still a place I assume. One of the simulated universes had a lore bit saying it's "destroyed". But then you have Lygus telling Screwllum to go there as his dying wish and Isee was allegedly last seen there. So it's probably still a location just really destroyed. The picture of Isee there kinda shows what it looks like. Which is from a 4.0 promotion video. But you can just look up adlivun hsr and the wiki will show you what it looks like.
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a 4-star SP Guinafen as Penacony's emcee would've been kino.
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>>562330003
I just don't know why should I give a shit? Toveven compete in the current meta you would need E6 and they are harder to get than a E0 from a 5*
Really, who cares?
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>>562330060
free 5* are FOMO
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>>562330092
She's still NPC-coded and deserving of the 4star title. We should not be wasting our limited 5 star character positions on NPC's.
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HSR devs really feel like that person who maliciously complies with everything
Oh you want new characters? Have an entire planet where they are literal whos that no one cares about
Oh people didn't like that? How about the next planet be 90% SPs no one asked for and we push back the new characters people actually want to the end of the year?
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>>562330003
uh oh this one really triggered the amphobrowns
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>>562330119
>you are just attached to how old gacha work
gee HSR is really in a good spot right now with all their decisions amirite?
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>>562330214
this
and even if your unit gets a 4-star new "support" they're still a 4-star gimped cope option meaning that A) your upgrade will fall off faster and B) you're not getting any new upgrades for a long while as a result

>>562330245
?
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>>562330260
>push back the new characters people actually want to the end of the year?
Who?
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>>562330003
>giving a fuck about 4*s after archer and dhpt
lmao fuck that shit. I want my rebates on every 10 pull
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>>562330260
The entirety of penacony was literal who's you are just a sunk cost faggot who never gave amphoreus a chance
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>>562330092
no leaks = not playable
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>>562330260
>that no one cares about
What did he mean by this?
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>>562330394
it's because she's at the very end, trust
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Amphoreus really did ruin this game. I applaud Hoyo's decisions in conditioning their minions with such a cucked mindset.
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>>562330434
No one cares about flop shit heirs and amphoreus killed the game. More people care about sparxie and space chinks than shartphoreus
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>>562330494
>he couldn't actually come up with a valid reason to defend 4-stars so he deflected into Amphoreus out of nowhere
Holy kek. We're two patches into Planarcadia already nigga
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>waaaa why no 4*
>waaaa why is this character a 4* reeeeee
sybau
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>>562329993
>double wormed
What happened to friendship?
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People only care about 2 amphoreus characters and that's mostly because the game told them so with 33 million shill patches
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>>562330551
Sparxie has less art than every heir.
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The anti-4* argument from metasissies is like someone offers you food but you say, "Why would I want food? I'm dying of dysentery. Food is completely irrelevant when I'll just shit it out and intravenous nutrient infusion therapy is better."
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not a problem in dragalia
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Why do amphoreus fags talk high shit? Their anniversary character didn't even surpass Acheron, nor the highest sold unit in other older gachas
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>>562330596
You are replying to the seething brazilian
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>>562330253
This is a weird cope
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>>562330551
Give me a drink, bartender
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>>562330596
Sparxie outsold every heir that wasn't giga shilled, had a top up reset or a spending event
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>more people care about space china than the heirs
I don't even like space greece but that's blatantly false, not even chinks like space china
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>>562330638
Zzz killed our game in 2.3
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>But muh heirs
You fell for the mediocre sob shit
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Vivian?
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>>562330573
male = worm
I don't make the rules
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>>562330625
Then how about giving an actual argument instead of some retarded false equivalence food analogy?
Still waiting for a single reason for a 4-star unit in this day and age when they can just give out free 5-stars instead.
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>discussion about why/why not 4*
>REEEEE AMPHOREUS
We can't genuinely discuss anything in these threads
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uh oh amphopag melty
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ZZZ was a mistake.
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>>562330119
yeah it's almost like lower rarity characters serve a purpose and won't fall off like dr bricktio or flopcher or dhpt...
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>>562330803
It's because they have no arguments to begin with.
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Id rather not have constant DOA *4s you know 90% of will replaced for inevitable *5s with some freak accidents like bennet was and is still is in genshit
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>>562330568
>sell the 5* version later
Except in paypig rail you pay for the 5* twice because of powercreep lole
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>let's not discuss Amphoreus when talking about 4-stars
niggers it's the fuckin sob planet that first introduced no longer having it
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>>562330494
>>562330638
>>562330810
Post your roster
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People who want 4 stars are horizontal fags that don't want to commit onto an archetype so they beg for scraps.
You don't deserve to test out new paths.
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>>562330363
pearl nihilux
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>>562330260
>HSR devs really feel like that person who maliciously complies with everything
I dont get how you zzzfags think coming here to complain abut HSR will improve your eternally flopping sales. You're so delusional its insane.
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>>562330856
The powercreep in this game is so insane that what you're describing is the fate of most 5*
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Almost like Amphoreus is involved since it is where the no 4* philosophy started
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>>562330260
A lot of their decisions work like a pendulum, across all of their games. They do something and then chances are that they will do something polar opposite of that
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>>562330898
The thing marco is melting down about has nothing to do with the topic
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>>562330779
poopxiao fucking flopped
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It starts with removing 4stars, then no longer having free 5-stars will follow
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>>562330385
>penacony
>literal who's
oxymoron
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>2 patches in
>Still dilating about amphoreus
Guess planarcadia was just DOA no matter what
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>>562330060
6 4*s a year >>> 1 free 5* a year
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>>562330834
like Archer (T0 DPS) and DHPT (T0 sustain)? yeah

>>562330898
maybe try detaching the idea of seething about amphoreus's story for a moment and instead focusing on the concept of 4-stars
garnering marcopoints by deflecting onto amphoreus is not an argument

>>562330963
But there's no relevance to the point at hand of discussing 4-stars as a concept.
Just because powercreep started in idk Luofu doesn't mean we should seethe about space chinks every time powercreep is an issue
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>>562331067
The nigga doesnt play the game or never played it in the first time, what's the surprise.
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How does Hoyo's cock taste like /hsrg/, you seem to know what's best for the game
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>>562331093
archer will not be relevant in 6 months and >>>>sustain
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Is it really Marco? He didn't dilate at the mention of Bibian
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>Wants 4 stats
>Doesn't use 4 stars
> I don't want more 4 stars
>I use them all the time
Really makes one think
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>>562331181
Dunno about the other posts but this is definitely him kek >>562330551
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>>562331067
>>562331149
You niggas out here started playing in Amphoreus when your pink bitch showed up
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>>562330003
Funny how this isn't a problem in FGO...
In fact many people celebrate their favorites are 4 stars during the summer version since those are easier to pull
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Meanwhile Hertafags are still waiting for their 4* dollta(launch 4* btw) upgrade because Anaxa subdps is shit
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>>562331206
We used Pela, Herta, Gallagher, March Hunt, Moze, QQ, Tingyun.

Fuck off Hoyo cocksucker
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>>562330784
Where can I pick up my Archer?
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>>562330119
>old gacha
Old gacha doesn't use 4* equivalents at all. They are literally filler trash. Genshit is literally the only thing that pushes 4*s and that's because they can scam retards to roll on 5* banners they don't want to because the 4* rates are absolute shit and you NEED C6 or they are literally useless.
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>>562331408
stephen will unbrick herta
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>>562331418
>No Asta
Unplayer kun...
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>>562330003
Don't look at me, only ampho virgins rooted for that shit
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>>562329568
FVVVARK
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>>562331365
Yeah you definitely don't play fgo. Summer 4* are cancer because there is no 4* pity and they are in dual rateup.
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>>562330880
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>>562331206
sushang and asta were my main DPSes for the entirety of 1.X and 2.X
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Why didn't anyone tell me that Astral Express + Break was fun?
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>Genshin
>you can have a BiS 4* for your dps when you roll for him like new buddypoke for Varka or Illuga for Zibai or Aino for Nod-krai or Iansan or Ororon...etc

>HSR
>NOOOOOOO I DON'T WANT 4*S. I WANT THAT HARLOT CERYDRA TO BE A FULL 5* I NEED TO SPEND 150 ROLLS FOR EVEN THOUGH SHE'S EXCLUSIVELY PHAINON'S CUMSLEEVE WHORE
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>>562331493
>shilling Asta
The one (singular) (only) DPS Cyrene player itt... (actually all Evernight)
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>>562330551
No one cares about space chinks. Yaoflop sold less than every single Amphoreus 1st half banner, fucking embarassmant of a new planet opener.
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HSR is the only game where the devs feed you shit and people get mad that you don't want to eat shit and call you crazy for not begging for more shit
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How can you say you like the free pity 5 stars when they don't even work at E0?

Now that I think about it, this general really do push pulling for Eidolons, are you guys actually chink shills? jfc
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Are we actually getting raided lmao
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>>562331659
Dan works at E0
Archer works at E0
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More 4*s is a good idea, because it allows for more skill expression. More characters = more different kits = more different ways to use and combine them into teams, basically more ways to play the game. One of the reasons why we don't get them anymore is that HSR devs are lazy and would rather make 1 decent 5*, hand it out like a bribe to the players and be done with it. And players eat it up because it feels generous and it feeds their metatroon mindset, which is very prevalent in the current playerbase. People nowadays don't want to play this game to enjoy it and have fun, but to achieve some arbitrary star rating, which is controlled by the same devs that now hold them by the balls by feeding them said free 5* units
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>>562331448
>Old gacha doesn't use 4* equivalents at all. They are literally filler trash
Not a problem in FGO, a lot of 4stars SP versions are stronger than the 5star version lol
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how do I efficiently grind all the bonds? I already reached WC. do I just go back to lower levels?
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>>562331293
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>>562331175
Archer has been relevant for 6 months and will continue to be relevant for 6 more.
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>>562331614
Ignoring the fact she's used in DoT and soon SW while mentioning qq was weird
Goes to show I'm right the ones asking for more 4 stars think the existing ones aren't useful.
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most people quit, especially spenders as you can see from the sales, you are just interacting with small minority of sunk cost cucks
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>>562331795
yeah just like dr ratio
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>>562331749
Fgo has no gameplay tho nice try
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>>562331085
>6 4*s a year
And why? Can you explain what these 4-stars do?

Firstly, the issue with 4-stars is that they're weak and often require multiple eidolons to work. Meaning you'll need to acquire them multiple times before they're usable.
This, in turn means that you'll need to pull on their rate ups. Meaning that if the banner unit is someone you don't like, you're spending pulls on A) gambling on something you have 0 guarantees for and B) wasting your pulls to potentially get a 5-star you didn't want.
If you skip the rate-up, you're not getting your 4-star unless you get astronomically lucky (the pool is VERY bloated by now).
So not only are 4-stars incredibly hard to target pull outside of their rate ups, they're not even guaranteed on their own banners. You can spend 200+ pulls on a banner and get ZERO eidolons of your targeted 4-star.

Then we get to the problem of 4-stars diluting the 4-star pool. As of now, veteran players have E6s on all 4-stars, giving them a high chance of getting a free pull every 10 pulls (since E7+ of a 4-star equals 20 currency equals one pull). If the 4-star pool is diluted, the chances of landing only 8 currency increases again, resulting in less pull refunds.

Thirdly, you can argue that they "help support older favourite units" but in reality (like I pointed here >>562330317) they're cope options, that fall off fast and you're also exhausting chances of getting new 5-star supports for your favourite.

So what remains as the reason gameplay-wise for preferring 4-stars over a free 5-star that not only gives you a more powerful unit at no cost whatsoever, additionally gives you the benefits of more pull refunds on average and gives you a chance to save for next 5-stars?
4-stars were a decent idea when the game launched so people had some semblance of a roster. But as time passes and less new players start+old players grow their rosters, adding new ones serves absolutely zero gameplay purpose.
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Holy chatgpt post
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>>562331741
Oh, and might as well add at the end there
>by feeding them said free 5* units
...which also incentivizes the players to possibly pull with limited currency for their eidolons and/or LCs
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Reply at me if you''re a chink shill
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>>562331870
Dr. Ratio was relevant for like 2 weeks.
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>>562331858
Which one are you?
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>>562331659
>when they don't even work at E0?
U wot
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>>562331741
>more different ways to use and combine them into teams
you have ratio, topaz, moze, robin and ashveil
combine them and beat moc in 2 cycles
oh wait, you cant
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>>562331659
You don't need eidolons unless the character is an E2 merchant like Therta or Phainon, monorem doesn't need eidolons
Archer doesn't need eidolons and his E1 in particular has become overkill post Sparkle NF
DHPT works out the box even with offpath sig
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I'm starting to think the shitposting comes from fgo raiders who just want to shill their flash game...
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>>562331659
>when they don't even work at E0
What? Archer works at E0. Dan works at E0. Sparkle (free, from the selector) works at E0.
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i dont feel like dealing with genshin level of *4 pool so i dont mind not getting new ones
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>>562331858
>t. cuck
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>>562331741
You're conveniently forgetting the part where you actually need to acquire said 4-stars.
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>>562331901
says the autobattler
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Why are all the characters just alts? Wtf is going on in this game? This is supposed to be my galactic game.

Are their contact numbers so limited?
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4 star are so good for new and mid players. In genshin you roll for two good banners and boom C6 Chevreuse and Iansan carrying you through end game in addition to the 5 stars you got.
In HSR you start a new account and you have to wait months to get 2 teams you like
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>>562331976
I turned from spender to full f2p and log 5 mins a day, haven't even started the new planet
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>>562332029
Every single FGO post in these threads has been made by three people max



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