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>Nerfed>Still stronger than SW both at EO and E2>SW has only 1 open slot left (sustain), while Eva has 2 (sustain + support). Future guaranteedSorry for being better than the main push
Peach
MOGGED
Yuri general
L-la-la-lava!Ch-ch-ch-chicken!Gui's Lava Chicken, yeah, it's tasty as hellOoh, Kafkacita, now you're ringing the bellCrispy and juicy, now you're having a snackOoh, super spicy, it's a lava attack!
>>562322141Both SW and Eva have 2 open slots. Yao is not making it to the final team.
Post sluts craving for melanin poles
>>562322429You first
Is Pearl got Screwllum'ed?
>>562322373Smells like cope in here
Why's Aventurine SP Elation though?
>>56232237342 day banner btw
Mywife love!
>>562322429
Every shitposter in this thread. Could. Be. ME!
Lloyd and Tio when
Correct pulls for 4.x?
Incest
>>562322494That's what's strange to me You'd think a Sampo SP would be perfect for an elation unit
Retards will spend their last money on sw or evaslop and then nuclear bomb Himeko SP vaporize them both
>>562322661Skip everyone
>>562322141What support they could make that would only benefit Eva?
>>562322661Rin and Gilkek
>>562322661Amphoreus reruns
>>562322553phew im safe
Playable Beatriz has only ever been mentioned in this suspicious leak
If I were to start playing today and wanted Nihilux or Ashveil who should I pull for to support them?
I'm mourning Aven SP.
>>562322710>Sampo SPAnon, he doesnt exist
>>5623225902005 tier graphics
>>562322867>Ashveil Wait for Tribbie rerun>Nihilux Nobody knows
Phainon and Aglaea should kiss already
>>562322494So we get 1 male for the new patch, remembrance having 0 males is still wild
>4.0 Sparxie, Yaoquang>4.1 Ashveil>4.2 SW SP, EVA>4.3 Blade SP, fate collab>4.4 Himeko SP>4.5 Sigga SP, Robin SP>4.6 blank>4.7 blank>4.8 NihiluxTwo patches worth of characters and that's assuming nihiliux is running solo, so the rest have to share a patch We still have stephen lloyd, opal, pearl, cat girl maid and harmony scorpionThe only characters with a high probability of being playable are currently Pearl and Stephen
>>562322661Monomem, himeko sp
fuck sparxie
>>562322715>Supposedly break slop or FUA>HagHimeko is DOA
>>562322494Aven has canonically been invited to join the Fools. Him getting a Mask makes sense.
>>562322867Ashveil leaked team is Blade and AvenWe dont know anything about nihilux but she is likely for Eva or Silver wolf 999
>>562322985What a terrible year
>>562322661ampho reruns
Labubu, what do we think of them?
>>562322508See you in 3 weeks.
SPslop ruined 4.X
>>562323115>Ashveil leaked team is Blade and AvenThis makes no sense if Aven SP is Elation.
>>562322831SP aventurine in 4.5 checks out with newest leak too. If this leak is true then we're getting 2 Elation sustainer? Pearl for SW and Nihilux for Eva?
>>562322985>>562323149This year is already shaping up to be better than amphoreus since these are all characters that people want and a world that isn't closed off and is actually relevant , unlike shartphoreus
>>562322494He's more Elation than fucking silver wolfAt least he was personally invited to the Tavern
>>562323115I see how much longer is his banner I gotta see if I have to buy rolls to get him or not
>>562323252SP Aventurine in 4.5 with Robin i'm the same patch was leaked MONTHS ago by Luna, that leaks means jackshit
>>562323234Aglaea is REM and she is not in the rem teamAven path dont matter
>>562323064They won't kill her like that
>Marco is here
I'd rather have Robin SP be the elation support...
>>562323332That's because Agalea isn't part of the HP meta, not because she's Remembrance. Elation is inherently built on having other Elation characters in the team, we've been over this.To deviate now means that Aven SP has to somehow allow non-Elation characters to assist with the Elation DMG formula.
I will have both Ashveil and Aventurine SP as my husbands
>>562323331but where does that leave the harmony scorpion girl?
Total Madam Herta love
>>562323483We just got Crit Eva before V3 nerf. it's Possible. I doubt he'll be in SW/Eva team even if he's elation
>>562323483Aven will just have a trace saying every fua from the team generate aha/ lines whatever is called, you are making a problem from something that will not be one
>>562323261kys marcotroon
Bwos I just got my husbando's LC on my 33rd roll!
give me a drink, bartender
>>562323460New Robin is gonna be new Himeko's support most likely
>>562323331Not Luna. Luna is a schizo and full of shit.The most reliable leaks always come from Full Stop-chan who was the one that originally leaked it.
>>562323641Elation works with crit stats. The reason Eva works with normal buffers better is because the 2 elation buffers are extremely bad.
>>562323623why the fuck you call her scorpion?
What's our opinion on Vivian Banshee
>>562322494>Why's Aventurine SP Elation thoughWas he supposed to be preservation again or something? Retard
>>562323641If he's also a main DPS, of course not.>>562323679I'd rather be skeptical than be optimistic. There's nothing so far with Hoyo's track record in releasing new Paths to make me think they'll do that.
>>562323836Don't play ZZZ but I like elegant ladies with umbrellasIs she a vampire too?
>>562323829she has a scorpion tattoo and her braid has a scorpion stinger on the end of it
>he _______
We will all be rolling for wormxodia FUA btwThe most soulful soulless team in the game.
Skipping all SP slop.
>>562323829
>>562323938i do this
Isn't Full stop chan Genshin leaker too? How is all of his leak accurate? Is he Hoyo insider sent to deliberately spread controlled leaks?
>>562323918She's a banshee
>>562324008probably it's why we haven;t had any new characters get leaked and it's just SPslop
>>562324041Cute lesbians
>>562324036Oh like literally? Cooldoes she scream
>>562323714why did you roll for a free lightcone...?
>>562323990This dress will look like shit on her model, just like aglaea's
>SP slop flopped>New characters flop (Amphoreus)So whats the solution?
I'm a woman and I roll for males and their cones but I'm more sexually attracted to females. Does that mean I'm straight or gay?
>>562324239Your 2nd premise is flawed the solution is remaking your prompt.
>>562324239For (You) to leave.
>>562324259You roll for males so you're homosexual
>>562324185Free? But I was taking a break from gacha games last summer and playing HI3rd instead.
>>562324259You love pidi
>>562324363How does that work?
>>562322148>Sampo SP was already debunked by Luna months ago sadly>LunaSo the same leaker who said that it was physically impossible to change a main push character and that Yae was still the shill anniversary unit right up until the trailers proved it was actually SW
>>562324484What the hell is pidi?
>>562324185Cause I'm retarded I guess?
>>562324259hello kitten
>>562324635hihihi
>>5623224944.0 elaborates on both why Aventurine is a possible Fool and why he isn't.>Sparkle: To become a Fool, one must experience at least one such instance of destiny: the moment of masking one's face.>Sparkle: Through the mask's eyeholes, we gain a different perspective, finally seeing how the universe is simply churning with endless jokes and the absurd nature of our existence as living beings.Aventurine is already wearing the facade of a carefree gambler. He's not though because he plans and prepares for every single gamble he does, according to 3.8 anyway.>Sparkle: If life's cruel, don't beg for fairness. Dance! Shake away that sadness until it's all well-mixed with the joy in your body>Sampo: Don't be too shocked, you two. Let me share a little secret about how we Masked Fools stay mentally healthy...>Sampo: Drink a mood-lifter like "Bomb's First Drop," and all the harmful memoria in your body — you know, the pain, the worries — gets purged in one go.>Sampo: That's how Fools pull pranks and have a blast without a shred of guilt.Aventurine can't let go of the sadness and the survivor's guilt. That's why he joined the IPC instead of the Tavern. From the character stories, Aventurine thought he could still payback or do something for his planet at the time. Dunno if this sadness and guilt changed after his walk through nihility
>>562322429But I don't have any pictures of your mom
>>562325158>>Sparkle: If life's cruel, don't beg for fairness. Dance! Shake away that sadness until it's all well-mixed with the joy in your bodyI always knew she was a strip dancer...
dont' post anymore leaks unless it's a non SP character
Aglaea loves Phainon Phainon loves Aglaea
Bronya RABUUUUU!
If you're rolling for SPs, you support Hoyo's creatively bankrupt ideas
>>562325412It's called alts
https://poal.me/cw7b3yhttps://poal.me/cw7b3yhttps://poal.me/cw7b3yBe honest!
>>562325412Most gachas have alts, genbabby
>>562325532
>>562322661Whoever you like :)
>>562325412>liking established characters is... bad!>you should get excited for this new one patch character that you'll never see again!!!!!mmmmmnyo
I'm living for 4.4
>>562325705>>562325579I can't wait for 5.0 for more SPsss Altsss
>>562325705The irony of one patch characters having more screentime than both forms of your filler character
>>562325532it turns out... there are some strangers to love. it turns out... not everyone knows the rules...
Sparkle lost all her credibility with the shit she did in Farewell, Penacony. The most nothing of all nothing characters. Elation my ass
I'm expecting a melty when SW999 gets atk scaling back into her kit
>>562325532btw escorts don't count
>>562326032She won't. SPD scaling is the only way she can remain relevant as the battleship unit
I love my wife Firefly!
I HATE PIDI !!!
>>562326029She saved your life while you were floating in space unconscious near Amphoreus. Shut the fuck up.
k*ll f*f*.
>>562326150calm down sparkle
https://hoyo.link/PycvcNs9E
>>562326112They can just make ATK convert into SPD while keeping the SPD into elation conversion
>>562326215it was already in my head this really wasn't necessary
>>562326140You deserve to be molested
>>562326140break fofo legs
>>562326032they already revamped her kit to speedzero chance they revert in the next week and a halfat most they'll add atk conversion
>>562326305We're all saying this
>>562326215
>>562326426you wouldn't get this from any other guy
casual happy kot
>>562326426Balde...
>>562326683asking for it
>>562326754A headpat and cuddles!
>>562326683Cute looks like she flops
>You deserve to be molested>break fofo legs>We're all saying thisSo much hate for fofo
>>562326830something's off about this anatomy I think.
>>562326426blade after coming back from fortnite
so pretty...
>>562326812I'm a day1 fofo skipper and I'm going to redeem her E1 at 4.2 launch
NTE is the star rail killer, we're finished
>>562326683>>562326798Yes...head cut...happy kot...
>>562326812Fofo doesn't deserve any of thisFofoposters, however...
>>562326916>filthy skippers can get her for free nowit's nyot fair...
I do think its funny that I kept collecting bricks since playing from 1.0 even spending occasionally and the only character which still holds up is Huohuo and sometimes Sunday because I skipped Cerydra
>>562326812As anon said I meant it to the fofoposters not fofo
>>562305105>Yao>brickEvery showcase used her though? She's BiS for SW and Eva... and Sparxie if you pulled her.
Ya* is shit
honestly fofo's sp00k patch was great back then and I don't know why i ever skipped her to begin with, guess cause she's a hideous green sewer rat
>HoS and other testers say Sparxie isn't needed anymore in SW teamSad. One more time loyal players are being rugpulled immediately.
>>562326812I believe she deserves that and more! I'd even say rape but she's too ugly to be raped!!!
>>562327390This is all leaker cabal misinformation. Once 4.2 rolls around my E2S1 SW+E2S1 Sparxie will be able to 0-cycle the Elation shill boss for sure
>>562327390
The lack of 4 stars characters make these newer planets so empty. They could even make 4 star SPs for Guinafen, Sushang, Hook, and QQ fitting for Planarcadia. For such a "fun" themed planet, we're all too tied to a mid plot instead of having fun. These minigames just don't cut it.
>>562327390Are these the same leakers that said Yao won't work with her?
>>562327390Future rail...
>>5623275424-stars are just bad and require far more pulls to E6 than just getting E0 of a 5-star.
>>562327483we only take in account low cost clears here gweilo, anything above 4 cost doesn't count
>>562327542How should 4* characters save game from lack of content?
>>562327542This secondary characters are important for good stories
>>562327763the non main push characters are the secondary characters
>>562322141
>>562327390As long as you have HER you can play whoever you want and that's beautiful.
Good afternoon! I hate Sparkle.
>>562327492I have Yao. And Sparxie.Mihomo do the worst shit possible, they ruin the trust, with such behavior after some time nobody will pull anyone unless they are overloaded with PAWA, out of fear to be rugpulled.
>check SW vid with Yao>see comments of people already regretting Sparxie
>>562327916Sampo wouldn't say that
Please keep Pearl free from elationslop
>>562327661That has never been the case with the amount of events Hoyo pulls that give out a 4* character selector>>562327758Would rather enhance the existing content should it be tied with the side characters. You see these minigames reusing characters from Amphoreus, that's the result of a lack of them.>>562327763Agree>>562327861Grim
>>562327896Thank you Madam Yao Guang for being bis for every elation and allowing me to choose whoever I want
>>562327661Gallaspud comes online at E2
>>562327991she's fine, people need to stop falling for the low-cost propaganda
>>562328070>That has never been the case with the amount of events Hoyo pulls that give out a 4* character selectorYeah and those take like 1.5 years to fill out minimum. Even worse if you skip the rateup banner
>>562327763we had 12 secondary characters just last planet
>>562327861Aventurine wasn't a main push
>>562328084Back in the day you could kinda work with him under that. I know because I did it. But that was when Himeko superbrick still worked
>>562327763Fuck off, secondary. You don't get to be in the game.
Even 33 trillion secondary characters cant save the story if the main one is dogshit
>>562327763They're good for side content like events (see Qingque, Hook, Guinaifen, Pela, Asta etc.) but for the main story not really.Plus we have characters like Kuchiba who never end up playable anyway.
>>562328362>They're good for side content like events (see Qingque, Hook, Guinaifen, Pela, Asta etc.) but for the main story not really.Your Gallagher? Your Misha?
Amphoreus events all revolved around hyacine and everyone liked themFuck off ghost hunting chuds.
>>562328070The problem isn't the lack of characters but lack of content. there's nothing to do in the game6h of mq, 1h of event and 30 days of logging in for 5 minutes and shitting in this thread
>>562327390Literally fuck this dogshit game. Why they're making us play all these mental gymnastics just to know what fucking team needs fucking what and in a simple beta update could destroy the compatibility of teammates after enticing the players to roll those teammates. Like the buffs and nerfs of Cipher during her beta.Fuck this pile of dogshit game. Fuck hoyo. Fuck shaoji. Hope this retarded game burns.
Which heirs should have been 4 stars? I say Hysilens for sure but not sure about the rest.
>>562328309He is the actual main push though, above shit like Mancheron and Blandfly>more screentime and relevance>more fanarts than both combined (billions weren't uploaded on the booru, as the Theoros I can certify this claim)>made more money due to merchHence why he's getting a SP first
>>562328764Hysilens, Cipher, Aglaea, Analxa, Mydei
>>562328760Not an issue for remembrance I'm afraid
>>562328760Not an issue if you don't follow leaks
>>562328764None of them
>>562328764All of them except Hyacine
>>562328845>Mono-Remembrance subDPS support>Except for that one
>>562328831Cipher as a 4* is actually retarded. 5* only makes sense due to her plot significance. A 4* carrying the flame chase that hard would make no sense.
>>562328764Honestly none with the way the story was set. And if there's no story reason to make them 4-stars there's very little reason to make them 4-stars for gameplay eitherGiving out free 5-stars is just infinitely better
>>562328764None they are 12 factors necessary for the creation of the universe, the entirety of 4.x and penacony except the main pushes should be 4 stars first.Don't even bother replying.
>>562328876If you don't follow leaks you don't have YG either so your bricked either way
>>562328764I was gonna make a list, but then I realized it was almost all of them...
>>562328810Firefly and Sigga are both shitting in Mancheron's grave don't pit them against each other
Is nihilux actually from adlivun? I thought nanook destroyed it
>>562328976>the importance on the story determines whether they are 5 star or 4 starNot a problem in fgo...
>>562328976All of Penacony's plot relevance was in its 4*s and (then) NPCs
God I love her
Let this be a lesson to not skip supports and skip sub-dps instead since they're designed to get bricked (unless it's monorem).
Acheron is not a man
>>562329108When did I ask about fgo?
>>562329108What else would it be? kek
>>562329129I think this every 15 minutes or so
>>562329129peach
>>562329129Same but mainly in Mem form
>>562329108No one cares about your flash game
Obligatory shilling patches for every limited shitter is what ruined Amphoreus and no HIVdei and tribbies sob story wasn't important for the story
Post NPC characters that should've been 4 stars. It doesn''t even matter if they're dogshit ingame
>>562329151Sparxie will be saved in v4. INFINITE MYSTERY BOXESTRUST THE SYSTEM
>>562328764All except Phainon, Cyrene, Evernight and Dan3
>>562329291Nobody agrees with you.
>>562329151Nah more like wait for flagship and then roll
>>562328764>Which heirs should have been 4 stars?tribbie anaxa mydei cerydra aglaea cipher
>>562329309
My fgo wife is a 4 stars... more popular than the 5 stars introduced in the same chapter
>>562329291marcotroon
>>562329108>Not a problem in fgo...and genshin...
>>562329291>is what ruined AmphoreusI'd say the opposite, it gave all of them room for development and for people to actually grow to like them.If we go off Boorubux alone, even the worst performing Heirs get multiple times the art of your average 4-star, and beat 5-stars like Lingsha/Yunli/Rappa/Jade/Huohuo easily despite being out for a way shorter time
>>562329492We love Marco here
>>562329465sewage rat whore
>>562329605No one says that
>will have to roll 3 worms for FuAThey shit you have to do for your fav...
players here are conditioned to not like 4* no matter what unless they're memes
If they were going to make Aglaea a team to be on par with current high tier teams what would it look like? Is it even mechanically possible to get her there without a gigabusted support that would just make other carries better than her instead?
>>562329794Tell that to Mancheron bros
>>562329605many are saying this
>>562329794who? ashveil isn't even good for her, he is just dragging her corpse to the finish line lol
>>562329794>have to roll 3 worms for your canonically double wormed favorite characteroh no the horror
It's fucking weird how conditioned people are here to not accept nor want new 4-star characters.Do you fags even work at Hoyo to push this shit?
>>562330003Can you give me a single good reason for a 4-star unit in this day and age when they can just give out free 5-stars instead?
Now that I think about it Amphoreus is like 8 patches of Kakaurines sob story back to back no wonder it killed the game
>>562330023She's a future 5* retardsis
>>562330003Because they serve no purpose you are just attached to how old gacha work.Absolutely retardation on your part.
>>562330062you didn't even play it through so naturally you'd think that
>>562329794uh oh flopxiao no damage no novaflare become shit in 2 patches olol
>>562329075It is still a place I assume. One of the simulated universes had a lore bit saying it's "destroyed". But then you have Lygus telling Screwllum to go there as his dying wish and Isee was allegedly last seen there. So it's probably still a location just really destroyed. The picture of Isee there kinda shows what it looks like. Which is from a 4.0 promotion video. But you can just look up adlivun hsr and the wiki will show you what it looks like.
a 4-star SP Guinafen as Penacony's emcee would've been kino.
>>562330003I just don't know why should I give a shit? Toveven compete in the current meta you would need E6 and they are harder to get than a E0 from a 5*Really, who cares?
>>562330060free 5* are FOMO
>>562330092She's still NPC-coded and deserving of the 4star title. We should not be wasting our limited 5 star character positions on NPC's.
HSR devs really feel like that person who maliciously complies with everything Oh you want new characters? Have an entire planet where they are literal whos that no one cares about Oh people didn't like that? How about the next planet be 90% SPs no one asked for and we push back the new characters people actually want to the end of the year?
>>562330003uh oh this one really triggered the amphobrowns
>>562330119>you are just attached to how old gacha workgee HSR is really in a good spot right now with all their decisions amirite?
>>562330214thisand even if your unit gets a 4-star new "support" they're still a 4-star gimped cope option meaning that A) your upgrade will fall off faster and B) you're not getting any new upgrades for a long while as a result>>562330245?
>>562330260>push back the new characters people actually want to the end of the year?Who?
>>562330003>giving a fuck about 4*s after archer and dhptlmao fuck that shit. I want my rebates on every 10 pull
>>562330260The entirety of penacony was literal who's you are just a sunk cost faggot who never gave amphoreus a chance
>>562330092no leaks = not playable
>>562330260>that no one cares aboutWhat did he mean by this?
>>562330394it's because she's at the very end, trust
Amphoreus really did ruin this game. I applaud Hoyo's decisions in conditioning their minions with such a cucked mindset.
>>562330434No one cares about flop shit heirs and amphoreus killed the game. More people care about sparxie and space chinks than shartphoreus
>>562330494>he couldn't actually come up with a valid reason to defend 4-stars so he deflected into Amphoreus out of nowhereHoly kek. We're two patches into Planarcadia already nigga
>waaaa why no 4*>waaaa why is this character a 4* reeeeeesybau
>>562329993>double wormedWhat happened to friendship?
People only care about 2 amphoreus characters and that's mostly because the game told them so with 33 million shill patches
>>562330551Sparxie has less art than every heir.
The anti-4* argument from metasissies is like someone offers you food but you say, "Why would I want food? I'm dying of dysentery. Food is completely irrelevant when I'll just shit it out and intravenous nutrient infusion therapy is better."
not a problem in dragalia
Why do amphoreus fags talk high shit? Their anniversary character didn't even surpass Acheron, nor the highest sold unit in other older gachas
>>562330596You are replying to the seething brazilian
>>562330253This is a weird cope
>>562330551Give me a drink, bartender
>>562330596Sparxie outsold every heir that wasn't giga shilled, had a top up reset or a spending event
>more people care about space china than the heirsI don't even like space greece but that's blatantly false, not even chinks like space china
>>562330638Zzz killed our game in 2.3
>But muh heirsYou fell for the mediocre sob shit
Vivian?
>>562330573male = wormI don't make the rules
>>562330625Then how about giving an actual argument instead of some retarded false equivalence food analogy?Still waiting for a single reason for a 4-star unit in this day and age when they can just give out free 5-stars instead.
>discussion about why/why not 4*>REEEEE AMPHOREUS We can't genuinely discuss anything in these threads
uh oh amphopag melty
ZZZ was a mistake.
>>562330119yeah it's almost like lower rarity characters serve a purpose and won't fall off like dr bricktio or flopcher or dhpt...
>>562330803It's because they have no arguments to begin with.
Id rather not have constant DOA *4s you know 90% of will replaced for inevitable *5s with some freak accidents like bennet was and is still is in genshit
>>562330568>sell the 5* version laterExcept in paypig rail you pay for the 5* twice because of powercreep lole
>let's not discuss Amphoreus when talking about 4-starsniggers it's the fuckin sob planet that first introduced no longer having it
>>562330494>>562330638>>562330810Post your roster
People who want 4 stars are horizontal fags that don't want to commit onto an archetype so they beg for scraps.You don't deserve to test out new paths.
>>562330363pearl nihilux
>>562330260>HSR devs really feel like that person who maliciously complies with everythingI dont get how you zzzfags think coming here to complain abut HSR will improve your eternally flopping sales. You're so delusional its insane.
>>562330856The powercreep in this game is so insane that what you're describing is the fate of most 5*
Almost like Amphoreus is involved since it is where the no 4* philosophy started
>>562330260A lot of their decisions work like a pendulum, across all of their games. They do something and then chances are that they will do something polar opposite of that
>>562330898The thing marco is melting down about has nothing to do with the topic
>>562330779poopxiao fucking flopped
It starts with removing 4stars, then no longer having free 5-stars will follow
>>562330385>penacony>literal who'soxymoron
>2 patches in >Still dilating about amphoreus Guess planarcadia was just DOA no matter what
>>5623300606 4*s a year >>> 1 free 5* a year
>>562330834like Archer (T0 DPS) and DHPT (T0 sustain)? yeah>>562330898maybe try detaching the idea of seething about amphoreus's story for a moment and instead focusing on the concept of 4-starsgarnering marcopoints by deflecting onto amphoreus is not an argument>>562330963But there's no relevance to the point at hand of discussing 4-stars as a concept. Just because powercreep started in idk Luofu doesn't mean we should seethe about space chinks every time powercreep is an issue
>>562331067The nigga doesnt play the game or never played it in the first time, what's the surprise.
How does Hoyo's cock taste like /hsrg/, you seem to know what's best for the game
>>562331093archer will not be relevant in 6 months and >>>>sustain
Is it really Marco? He didn't dilate at the mention of Bibian
>Wants 4 stats >Doesn't use 4 stars> I don't want more 4 stars>I use them all the timeReally makes one think
>>562331181Dunno about the other posts but this is definitely him kek >>562330551
>>562331067>>562331149You niggas out here started playing in Amphoreus when your pink bitch showed up
>>562330003Funny how this isn't a problem in FGO...In fact many people celebrate their favorites are 4 stars during the summer version since those are easier to pull
Damn Owlbert is fucking broken lol
Meanwhile Hertafags are still waiting for their 4* dollta(launch 4* btw) upgrade because Anaxa subdps is shit
>>562331206We used Pela, Herta, Gallagher, March Hunt, Moze, QQ, Tingyun.Fuck off Hoyo cocksucker
>>562330784Where can I pick up my Archer?
>>562330119>old gachaOld gacha doesn't use 4* equivalents at all. They are literally filler trash. Genshit is literally the only thing that pushes 4*s and that's because they can scam retards to roll on 5* banners they don't want to because the 4* rates are absolute shit and you NEED C6 or they are literally useless.
>>562331408stephen will unbrick herta
>>562331418>No Asta Unplayer kun...
>>562330003Don't look at me, only ampho virgins rooted for that shit
>>562329568FVVVARK
>>562331365Yeah you definitely don't play fgo. Summer 4* are cancer because there is no 4* pity and they are in dual rateup.
>>562330880
>>562331206sushang and asta were my main DPSes for the entirety of 1.X and 2.X
Why didn't anyone tell me that Astral Express + Break was fun?
>Genshin>you can have a BiS 4* for your dps when you roll for him like new buddypoke for Varka or Illuga for Zibai or Aino for Nod-krai or Iansan or Ororon...etc>HSR>NOOOOOOO I DON'T WANT 4*S. I WANT THAT HARLOT CERYDRA TO BE A FULL 5* I NEED TO SPEND 150 ROLLS FOR EVEN THOUGH SHE'S EXCLUSIVELY PHAINON'S CUMSLEEVE WHORE
>>562331493>shilling AstaThe one (singular) (only) DPS Cyrene player itt... (actually all Evernight)
>>562330551No one cares about space chinks. Yaoflop sold less than every single Amphoreus 1st half banner, fucking embarassmant of a new planet opener.
HSR is the only game where the devs feed you shit and people get mad that you don't want to eat shit and call you crazy for not begging for more shit
How can you say you like the free pity 5 stars when they don't even work at E0?Now that I think about it, this general really do push pulling for Eidolons, are you guys actually chink shills? jfc
Are we actually getting raided lmao
>>562331659Dan works at E0Archer works at E0
More 4*s is a good idea, because it allows for more skill expression. More characters = more different kits = more different ways to use and combine them into teams, basically more ways to play the game. One of the reasons why we don't get them anymore is that HSR devs are lazy and would rather make 1 decent 5*, hand it out like a bribe to the players and be done with it. And players eat it up because it feels generous and it feeds their metatroon mindset, which is very prevalent in the current playerbase. People nowadays don't want to play this game to enjoy it and have fun, but to achieve some arbitrary star rating, which is controlled by the same devs that now hold them by the balls by feeding them said free 5* units
>>562331448>Old gacha doesn't use 4* equivalents at all. They are literally filler trashNot a problem in FGO, a lot of 4stars SP versions are stronger than the 5star version lol
how do I efficiently grind all the bonds? I already reached WC. do I just go back to lower levels?
>>562331293
>>562331175Archer has been relevant for 6 months and will continue to be relevant for 6 more.
>>562331614Ignoring the fact she's used in DoT and soon SW while mentioning qq was weirdGoes to show I'm right the ones asking for more 4 stars think the existing ones aren't useful.
most people quit, especially spenders as you can see from the sales, you are just interacting with small minority of sunk cost cucks
>>562331795yeah just like dr ratio
>>562331749Fgo has no gameplay tho nice try
>>562331085>6 4*s a yearAnd why? Can you explain what these 4-stars do?Firstly, the issue with 4-stars is that they're weak and often require multiple eidolons to work. Meaning you'll need to acquire them multiple times before they're usable.This, in turn means that you'll need to pull on their rate ups. Meaning that if the banner unit is someone you don't like, you're spending pulls on A) gambling on something you have 0 guarantees for and B) wasting your pulls to potentially get a 5-star you didn't want.If you skip the rate-up, you're not getting your 4-star unless you get astronomically lucky (the pool is VERY bloated by now). So not only are 4-stars incredibly hard to target pull outside of their rate ups, they're not even guaranteed on their own banners. You can spend 200+ pulls on a banner and get ZERO eidolons of your targeted 4-star.Then we get to the problem of 4-stars diluting the 4-star pool. As of now, veteran players have E6s on all 4-stars, giving them a high chance of getting a free pull every 10 pulls (since E7+ of a 4-star equals 20 currency equals one pull). If the 4-star pool is diluted, the chances of landing only 8 currency increases again, resulting in less pull refunds.Thirdly, you can argue that they "help support older favourite units" but in reality (like I pointed here >>562330317) they're cope options, that fall off fast and you're also exhausting chances of getting new 5-star supports for your favourite.So what remains as the reason gameplay-wise for preferring 4-stars over a free 5-star that not only gives you a more powerful unit at no cost whatsoever, additionally gives you the benefits of more pull refunds on average and gives you a chance to save for next 5-stars?4-stars were a decent idea when the game launched so people had some semblance of a roster. But as time passes and less new players start+old players grow their rosters, adding new ones serves absolutely zero gameplay purpose.
Holy chatgpt post
>>562331741Oh, and might as well add at the end there >by feeding them said free 5* units ...which also incentivizes the players to possibly pull with limited currency for their eidolons and/or LCs
Reply at me if you''re a chink shill
>>562331870Dr. Ratio was relevant for like 2 weeks.
>>562331858Which one are you?
>>562331659>when they don't even work at E0?U wot
>>562331741>more different ways to use and combine them into teamsyou have ratio, topaz, moze, robin and ashveilcombine them and beat moc in 2 cyclesoh wait, you cant
>>562331659You don't need eidolons unless the character is an E2 merchant like Therta or Phainon, monorem doesn't need eidolonsArcher doesn't need eidolons and his E1 in particular has become overkill post Sparkle NFDHPT works out the box even with offpath sig
I'm starting to think the shitposting comes from fgo raiders who just want to shill their flash game...
>>562331659>when they don't even work at E0What? Archer works at E0. Dan works at E0. Sparkle (free, from the selector) works at E0.
i dont feel like dealing with genshin level of *4 pool so i dont mind not getting new ones
Do we like Pearl here?
>>562331858>t. cuck
>>562331741You're conveniently forgetting the part where you actually need to acquire said 4-stars.
>>562331901says the autobattler
Why are all the characters just alts? Wtf is going on in this game? This is supposed to be my galactic game.Are their contact numbers so limited?
4 star are so good for new and mid players. In genshin you roll for two good banners and boom C6 Chevreuse and Iansan carrying you through end game in addition to the 5 stars you got.In HSR you start a new account and you have to wait months to get 2 teams you like
>>562331976I turned from spender to full f2p and log 5 mins a day, haven't even started the new planet
>>562332029Every single FGO post in these threads has been made by three people max
>>562332116Have your melty in your own general
Active hsr players across all social media have rejected the 4 star concept.You don't belong here.
>>562332131Because no one liked literal whos like the heirs and shartphoreus killed the game
I've played since early 2.x and it took me two years to get a single Luka
>>562332028>shows Amphoreus characters as sampleschink shill
>>562332136>just roll on two "good" banners that conveniently have "good" 4-stars and then get really lucky on those rolls to actually get the E6 4-star that you want broAll fantasies and also include waiting months for the stars to align.Go look up the average amount of pulls required for E6 a 4-star and compare it to E0ing a 5-star.
>>562332138>haven't even started the new planetWhy are you here
>>562332202Acrive current hsr playerbase is 25% of what it was when they were releasing 4*s
>>562332131Mihoyo had the brilliant idea of using our budget to fund zzz relaunches and now we are flopping so we have no money to create new characters and new modelsSay thanks to zzz for killing hsr
>>562331659This is equivalent to clearing Genshin SO dire. Literally 2 free 5*s, the MC, and a 1.0 4*. Genshin could never lmao.
>>562332202Even reddit?
>>562332286During Moze's release the game was about at equal popularity already.
>>562332028at first it was >monorem doesn't need eidolonsbut then>brooo i cant beat knight 2 monorem finished
>>562332274because I like shitposting duhthis place is legit funnier than the game
>>562332293https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punctuation
>>562332262The Fate collab took part in Penacony, unplayer
We guess the next Hoyo tactic that the shills here will eat up and accept as the new norm
How long is the story quest for this patch? I'm at the part where Nihilux gives you a tour, and I'm already bored out of my mind.
>>562332293No one asked for headcanons
>>562332102i LOVE pearl
>>562332429
>>562332115It takes an average of ~35 or something rolls to get a specific 4*. On average you're getting a C2 4* when rolling for a 5*. They're also frequently giving a copy for free every patch or so.
>>562332405never releasing new characters is good actually
>>562332428Like 5-6? It gets better after the tour, that part was seriously a slog. I had to skip for the first time ever.
>>562332374If you can't 3* this AA's K2 as E0 monorem you have bigger problems
>>562332405"No 4*" is not a hoyo tactic, it's literally gacha 101. Only the highest rarity matters after the first year, this is true for every single gacha that actually focuses on gameplay.
>>562332428you have like 4-5 more hours to go, without skip.
>>5623324285 more hours
>>562332331and then you woke up
>>562332583Not a problem in fgo
>>562332405Any argument other than calling people shills?Anyone would call you stupid if you asked them to give up their free Archer and told them to roll 7 copies of a 4 star on a banner featuring a 5 star they didn't like instead.
>>562332267If you stated in 6.3 you have gotten Columbina and Zibai with Illuga+Aino. If you go for Linnea you can get a C6 Illuga while being able to make a strong wheelchair core on one side and the rest on the other side. This can't happen in HRT
>>562332640>fgo>gameplay
>>562332405Stopping releasing new five star characters and instead giving us a million alts of the same select few characters.
>>562332405The SPs are currently their new one. NO NEW CHARACTERS, or at least just 3 of them
>>562332506>It takes an average of ~35 or something rolls to get a specific 4*Yes, at E0. So not only are you getting a fundamentally weaker unit, you're also getting a weaker version of said weak unit.Because in most 4-star cases, you need a specific eidolon for them to even be usable in their niche team.So at E6 you're spending what, 210 pulls on average? For a fundamentally weaker unit than a E0 5-star. That is a godawful deal.>>562332676>IfIf and if. Again, if the stars align there's a chance you can get a 4-star at E0. >If you go for Linnea you can get a C6 IllugaNow count the average pulls for a C6 4-star. I did it above, but in case that's not clear for you.210 pulls from a new player JUST to get a 4-star. And 4-stars are again, by design, weaker than 5-stars.
>>562332692Why bother with new characters when they flop like the heirs and people talk about wanting fan favorite and beloved characters like sparkle, aventurine, and firefly to get alts instead
>>562332650it's possible to have archer AND have 4*, you know just like every other gacha besides this paypig simulator that has you praising them for removing features
>>562332583Funny how this isn't a problem in FGO and even 1stars are still strong after 11 years...
>>562332578kek
>>562332492You're not proving anything with your ai website
4* in genshin except for some mistakes are bricks who need c6 to be even consired characters and, when usable, are tied at the hip with the 5* they support, no one wants their favorite to end up 4*
>>562332650Fuck off retard. I've literally never used Archer once and won't ever use him. I'd throw that piece of shit into the trash and exchange him for 6 different new 4*s.
Yeah let me just roll for E6 Guinaifen on a Jiaoqiu banner in 2.4
>>562332676People who started in 3.4 got a free T0 DPS in Archer, roll for main push Phainon and get a free Archer cone. Then the following patch they get a free T0 sustain in Dante, can redeem T1 team buffer Ruan Mei in the shop, and then after a couple of months get T0 buffer Sparkle for both Phainon and Archer. Genshin could never.
>>562332802I can think of a gacha that keeps shitting out 4 stars but would eos before giving a limited 5 star for free.
>>562332692New characters are fucking literal.who flops see: the heirs and every non returning character in planarcadia
>we pretend E0S0 Archer is good when he desperately needs his cone
>>562332796even the biggest flop can somehow pull twice as much fanart as sparxiecurious thing about characters "nobody cares about"
>>562332889insane phainon and ruan mei sneak
>>562332808And no one uses them besides Arash
>>562332783What I'm trying to say retardking is that you can get a C6 on your way of getting multiple C6 4 stars. Thanks to that you can get multiple additional options while going for the 5 stars you like.This is not a thing on HRT>>562332889You can't get Archer any more so it's not a thing on HRT
>>562332948Needs his cone for what? His cone is one of the worst limited cones in the game.
>>562332975Everyone pay attention to this post.A murder has been committed.
>>562332998>And no one use them except THIS one they useSee? funny how many of HSR problems aren't actually problems in FGO
>>562333005>You can't get Archer any moreYou can't get Columbina or Zibai any more either.
SparkSEA flopped
>>562331905>the issue with 4-stars is that they're weakWrong, the only weak 4*s in the game are Hanya and Yukong (>yeah but they're all weak now) So are most 5*>often require multiple eidolons to workTo bridge the powergap to 5*. False equivalence>you'll need to pull on their rate upsThey're given in event selectors. And oh no I might see something I'm interested in pulling in a GACHA GAME instead of doing nothing dailies and saving and zero gambling for 4 months at a time until a 5* I want actually comes out (needs savings to pull them + their teammate reruns because lole no 4* options)>If you skip the rate-up, you're not getting your 4-star unless you get astronomically luckyAlready shown as false>If the 4-star pool is diluted, the chances of landing only 8 currency increases again, resulting in less pull refundsDo you really want to argue that 3/5ths of 1 (one) pull is more valuable than a character?>help support older favourite unitsStrawman. 4*s are in no way meant to buff older units, the fuck are you smoking? They're meant to lower the barrier to entry into new team lineups. It's weird how people are ADAMANT on the uselessness and fleeting lifespan of a 4* if it were to release in the current day, yet still cream their pants over RMC.
>>562332937Fgobros????????
>>562332817well he didn't say s0
>>562333104RMC is literally free. 0 rolls needed. 4*s are not. They actually DEPRIVE you of rolls because instead of getting a refund you get a brick instead.
hercCHAD is better than most 5* in HSR btw
>>562333075He said 1* plural when it's actually 1* singular, I thought fgokeks could read since they had a good story chapter 5 years ago
....as much as people say the 4.x story is better I don't think I've heard anyone talk about muh fan favorite and beloved characters as a talking point for story quality in genshin and hsr other than this place and /gig/
>>562333203Nobody cares about your baby game.
>>562332115Pretty sure more than a half of the ones we have were given out in selectors for events and gameplay modes at some point. You also get a lot when you roll actual 5* characters, closing the gaps you might have. Ultimately, even this arguement that you are trying to bring up is controlled by the devs - nothing is stopping them from making 4*s and making them even more accessible through even more selectors
>>562333252>people say the 4.x story is betterNo one says this.
>>562333102But you can get Escoffier and Skirk and thanks to the 4 STARS you can make a decent team.Then you can roll go for one Lauma for hyperbloom or save for Nicole. God Genshinchads have it so easy, truly Da Wei's golden child
>>562333185you get 4*s for free through events and standard pulls you can't get 5*s that way
>>562333253but enough about shart rail
>>562332817
>>562333303marco did
>>562332975>The legs focused character and biggest flop has more fanart than sparxie black tier ass inspired character, along with yao and dahlia
>>562333272On the same token there's nothing stopping them from making free 5* and giving out selectors either.
>>562333318Marco, you play fgo?
>>562333272>closing the gaps you might haveThat's not gonna happen when the 4* pool is hyperdiluted. You can only E6 4*s reliably in HSR because the pool is small.
>>562333318Why are you here?
>>562332975>>562333252https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punctuation
>>562333303>Forgetting all the glazing people did about it having a better opening than 3.0, how it feels more interconnected with the games lore and universe, as well as having older characters like sparkle and such being relevant instead all new people like the heirs
>>562333317Not a problem for HSR, we do get 5*s from events and standard pulls.
>>562333252all the characters people want aren't playable4.X decided to not have them playable untill the end of the year and the leakers only want to leak SPs
Players so new they forget they attach the good 4 stars with the new good 5 star units for great value.See Gallagher with Acheron, he had more longevity in retrospect
>>562333005>What I'm trying to say retardking is that you can get a C6 on your way of getting multiple C6 4 stars. Yes, you CAN. You can gamble and waste MORE pulls on average for a chance to get a fundamentally weaker unit.Or you could utilize the 5-star guarantee system and get a stronger unit instead guaranteed.>Thanks to that you can get multiple additional options while going for the 5 stars you like.Again, assuming you like the banner unit. If you dislike the banner unit, you're fucked because you're not getting the 4-star normally due to pool dilution.And if you feel compelled to pull a 4-star, you're A) suffering the worse odds lottery with no guarantees and B) pulling for a 5-star you do not like or want.>>562333104>Wrong, the only weak 4*s in the game are Hanya and Yukong???4-stars are fundamentally weaker than 5-stars. It's why they are 4-stars. Their base stats, damage, amp, EVERYTHING is fundamentally weak.>To bridge the powergap to 5*. False equivalenceWrong. For many 4-stars, their actual functionality for their niche is locked behind eidolons.>They're given in event selectors.Yes, like 2-3 a year. Amazing.>And oh no I might see something I'm interested in pulling in a GACHA GAMENow who's the shill again?>Already shown as falseIncorrect>Do you really want to argue that 3/5ths of 1 (one) pull is more valuable than a character?Absolutely. I have every 4-star at E6 except for Misha and every stray Misha I get I groan, because that could've been a full pull refund instead.Getting more of this slop doesn't help me at all.> 4*s are in no way meant to buff older units, the fuck are you smoking?Then they serve zero purpose.>They're meant to lower the barrier to entry into new team lineups.And what "barrier of entry" do you mean? We have the MC for that.>yet still cream their pants over RMCBecause RMC is very strong (unlike 4-stars) and literally free. ZERO pulls required.
>>562333405You can enjoy a game without slurping every aspect of it.
>>562333405To shill a shitty flash game
>>562333432>peopleYou mean the singular Marco?
>>562333432>glazing people did about it having a better opening than 3.0>Censored garbage>glazingIf the story was so good what it flopped harder than amphoreus filler patches?
>4*s are fundamentally weaker unitsA lot of them are literally best in slot for many dps and you get them for free nigga.6 new unique niche 4*s >>> 1 single niche free 5*
>>562333456...and if you didn't want Mancheron?
My gamer girlfriend is extremely cute
I'm happy today. reasonably. but it would make me happier If hysilens piched cerychan's cheeks
Poopcadia flopped and slopped
>>562333347>legs focused characterhello sudanese man
>>562333541He was rerun with Firefly + Ronald May and given out in selectors twice in the time between those banners.
There's like 3 people who use 4 stars for their endgame clears in /hsrg/ a lot of people arguing in bad faith right now.
>>562333272>Pretty sure more than a half of the ones we have were given out in selectors for events and gameplay modes at some point.Key point being "at some point." Having to wait years for your 4-stars to become usable only for them to actually not be usable at all due to powercreep is not what anyone should want.>You also get a lot when you roll actual 5* characters, closing the gaps you might haveAgain, up to pure chance, rate-up lottery and aligning with your normal pulls, as well as taking up a lot of time and pulls.So while you might E6 a modern day 4-star in say, a year, what good did that do when even 5-stars fall off drastically in a year?>Ultimately, even this arguement that you are trying to bring up is controlled by the devs - nothing is stopping them from making 4*s and making them even more accessible through even more selectorsIn which case... we might as well have free 5-star selectors. Like we do now!What a retarded point to bring up.
>>562333456good 4*s go with bad 5*sbad 4*s go with good 5*s
>>562333549I am skipping her.
>>562333597No seriously, what the FUCK was mihoyo thinking pandering to dark skinned people?
>>562333479Don't think if you have played Genshin but it's really easy to get 4 stars and a lot of them don't even need C6
>>562333452>All the characters people want>When most people, including these threads only gave a shit about sparxie and super Wolf People did give a shit about Eva but promptly dropped her since she wasn't the main push keky
>>562333626i've been using doll herta since day 1my favorite character in fgo is also a 4*
>>562333569I'm a little late, but hi Yuria!
>>562333682No seriously, why the FUCK your roster is nowhere to be seen
>>562333534>literally best in slot for many dpsOnly because Genshit refuses to release actually good units. For every "best in slot" 4* there are 5 5* with bricked kits because they are afraid of powercreeping the 4*.
What character has stayed good for the longest across all gacha?
>>562333432Those are comparations of people that perpetually seeth at 3.x, no one talked about the story for it's own
>>562333707Eva will be the real winner. Screencap this post.
>>562333769Castorice.
>>562333769Bennett
>>562333769Bronya
Lovely
>>562333534>A lot of them are literally best in slot for many dpsWhat the fuck are you even on about? Moze for E2 Feixiao?Unironically Moze existing is the reason Feixiao hasn't gotten any help and is the reason she's in the dumpster bins right now metawise.Or maybe Doll Herta for THerta in PF, which I guess is true but Herta's given for free fully by the devs. Plus she suffers from the same issue as Feixiao as a result>>562333704I think the argument is HSR, but the gacha system should function the same, no?
>>562333730Doll herta is literally holding Herta back because Hoyo refuses to release a 5* doll herta equivalent.
>>562333769A lot of FGO characters, starting with a literal 1star character that has been tier 0 for over a decade
>>562333737hello cute friendI'm just chilling a bit before I sleep, finally reached WC on currency wars, but I still gotta grind all the bonds and stuff
I like 4*
>>562333872not a problem for my e6 therta
Goku
>>562333892He's asking about games with a rotating endgame and serious meta.
I guess we can all agree we're trapped in one of the worst gacha there is.
I hate l*nx
>>562333626I just want an actual subdps for Herta bro
>>562333416there are zero punctuation problems in my post
>>562333940Why are you posting this ugly chick? She doesn't look very HSR and she's quite offensive to the eye.
>>562333769Oguri Cap
I have all the 4*s including new ones in genshin. It's not that hard.C0 Aino is literally better than Furina.
>>562333865Yes and it's sad that mostt archetypes in HSR lack a 4 star cope. Genshinchads have it so easy with Bennett, XQ, Lan Yan, Iansan...
>>562333707why do you think 4chan is the majority of HSR's player base?
>>562333990we're not trapped in wuwa
>>562333892I haven't played since 2020, he still does enough damage to be considered good?
>>562333980>rotating endgameThey dont need to kill all characters and shill new ones to help the sales and incentivize rolling for new charactersOnce again you could say... that is not a problem in FGO
>if you use a character in their shilled environment they are better than a character that is being balanced around Riveting
the Re:zero IF story was crazy good today
>>562333597You don't like tits, ass, legs, OR men, what do you like then?
>>562333990This isn't /end/
>>562333626I use Doll Herta myself naturally but I'm definitely against the idea of new 4-stars gameplaywise, they're just not a good idea at this point of the game and solve no problems.>>562334042>most archetypes in HSR lack a 4 star copeNo, the issue is that the 4 star copes are bad (literally cope options). Which again loops back to the point - 4-stars are a bad idea now and solve no problems.
>>562334004Just say you're homosexual
>>562334129If the shilled environment lasts for a whole 7 months, then there's an argue to be made here.
>>562333626I'm thinking we don't need more 4 stars.
>>562333990Granblue Fantasy is the other way
>>562334115He can still clear the first wave during farming so yeah
>>562333990ZZZ is just next door
We accepted to no longer get 4-star characters. Now we accept to only get alts and expies as "new" characters.
>>562334042Literally no one uses Lan Yan and Bennett is the reason why genshin buffers are all shit except for Furina. XQ is also a major contributor to genshin refusing to release good hydro subdps before Furina. Iansan is just another victim of Bennett, literally the same kit but worse in every aspect, and they already did that with Sara.
>>562334243Why would I lie?
>>562334261Indeed, Furina broke the game
>>562334286just wake me up when we get a leak that isn't an SP or a collab character
I would unironically rather uninstall than pull for a new "4-star cope option" for my favourite especially when that rate up lands on a dogshit banner like a >maleImagine having to pull on Ashveil's banner for a 4-star cope option. Actual humiliation ritual
>>562333479>4-stars are fundamentally weaker than 5-stars. It's why they are 4-stars.Weaker doesn't mean weak>Wrong. For many 4-stars, their actual functionality for their niche is locked behind eidolons.Gallagher: E2 to sustain Moze: E1 for Ult rotation Tingyun: E0 fully functional Pela: E0 fully functional Asta: E0 fully functional (E4 for more ult uptime)>Yes, like 2-3 a year. Amazing.Yes because the last 4* was over a year and a half ago, numbnuts>Now who's the shill again?I love playing a character collector game get to never gamble or get anything new to try out. Just joylessly hoard resources for a brief 1 second of anticipation on a 50/50 flip every 5 months
>>562334323Ah you're in the denial phase? You should suck a cock, it will clear your mind.
>>562334042>Yes and it's sad that mostt archetypes in HSR lack a 4 star copeYou literally have no access to lunar reactions unless you roll for 5stars kek
>>562333872That's less on Herta and more of Anaxa being a failure of a subdps and the lack of 5* erudition optionsAcheron has multiple debuffer options but the only one worth a shit in current day is NF SW and that's if you E2 her, other than that you're wheelchairing her brick ass with break supports
I like how divided and schizophrenic this game's community isLiterally every discussion about it causes an unsolvable gigamelty debate that doesn't lead anywhere either because of suspicion of being a spy of some other game or because of fundamental incompatible views on the game itself lol
>>562334393Anon, why do you want a man to suck a penis? It seems you must be projecting. No wonder you like that man-face with no curves. I get it all now.
>>562334494Do other game communities have this problem?
>>562334494>community You mean tourists waiting to see Gilgamesh animations leaks?
>>562334316It doesn't matter if no one uses Lan Yan if she is a great unit that lets you clear the hardest content with primo as a reward (abyss). Having 2 Bennetts is also crazy good so Iansan is a great addition. You don't need them to be used but to be good.
>>562333626Yunli is an honorary 4*
>>562333854It's nice to see you're still around
>>562334524You're homosexual why would you not suck a penis? Are you retarded on top of it?
>>562334316yelan killed XQ years agoXL died from mavuika and durinbennett is about to be killed by nicole lan yan is goodiansan is great and works in completely different teams than bennettchevy is pretty much mandatory for overload
Literally the only reason I even had E2 Gallagher was due to selectors since I couldn't pull him at all for almost a year despite spending currency on banners where he was available.I don't want any more 4*, fuck that
>>562334578You're the only one thinking about sucking penises around here, Mr. Gayboy.
>>562333940I remember people celebrating she was a 4*You wouldn't see this shit here since 4* are filler shit now
>>562334378>Weaker doesn't mean weakWeak means weak. >E2105 pulls on average (on rate up)>E170 pulls on average (on rate up)You could get a 5-star with these already>Tingyun: E0 fully functional Lie, E6 needed for the rotations that use her>Pela: E0 fully functionalE1 needed, also not used in any actual runs nowadays>(E4 for more ult uptime)Which is what you need for the niche runs that use her because they're sustainless.If you don't have these the units are weak.>Yes because the last 4* was over a year and a half ago, numbnutsWas never any better, not even in 1.0
>>562334494this place is just reflexively contrarian which is a sign of low IQ 4,*s are bad, new characters are bad, events are bad, content is badno other game has this issue
>>562334470Anaxa and doll herta serve opposite purposes. You bring Anaxa to low-target scenarios while you bring doll herta to PF-like 5-target scenarios. Herta is limited by doll herta's power in multi-target scenarios precisely because there is no other better partner for those.
>>562334673I'm glad we have sexo 4* like City and Bob
>>562334673People were celebrating the LB6 script in physical was HUGE because we were going to get more kino writing by nasu for an entire lostbeltIf they showed the entire script of 4.x in physical and saw is even longer than amphoreus the entire playerbase would enter in doomposting mode and talk about skipping it
>>562334728nta, this is your brain on ampho pills
>>562333913Yeah I figured, it being midnight for you, and thanks, you're very kind.Congratulations! Hope the bonds won't be too annoying to get compared to the rank grind
>>562334560You have to roll for Lan Yan, and she can't clear abyss in 30s. Free 5*s in HSR can.
>>562334759>contrarian4-stars being a bad idea is a widely shared idea once you spend more than one minute actually thinking about themThe romanticized idea of getting free copies of an unit as you pull falls apart in practice quite fast>>562334810I can tell it's not the same anon because that anon is at least capable of rational discussion rather than completely retarded mindbreak about a region that has nothing to do with the argument at hand
>>562334658Says the homosexual.
>>562322985better than Amphoreus I guess but that's not saying much
>>562334759HSR players don't even like HSR. They only liked it during the "Genshin could never" and now since the game is flopping tremendously, they're depressed because they have nothing else.
>>562334759you see it even on twitterthis game's community is just conditioned to praise hoyo for whatever slop they give this game
>>562334780There's Jade but she's also bad.>You bring Anaxa to low-target scenarios And then his issue is that he doesn't do anything in those low-target scenarios except apply a weakness
>>562334728>E1 needed, also not used in any actual runs nowadaysno shit retard, that's a 1.0 character you're trying to fight in 4.2
>>562333769I quit a couple of years ago but granblue is the only gacha I've played outside of HSR that has a metagame to follow and picrel is about to hit the 5 year mark of being the absolute most important character in his respective element for the most important game mode in that gacha which is Guild Wars (PvE number grinding autism)
>>562334914Only if you are saying so.
>>562334656I pulled 3 castorice copies on her banner and only 2 gallagher copies. The rest where from selectors. Shit is fucked.
>>562334830I hope so too, the runs were taking so long all the way to wc... and apparently it goes up to wc30, which i'll do after bonds I guess...And you're kind yourself!!! I'm nothing special really
>>562334673I find funny how people discuss eidolons for 4*s about how that is worse when characters in fgo are complete with only 1 copy lol
>>562334887Kill yourself you miserable cunt. Because of trash like you I had to spend 150 rolls for a shitty E0S0 Cerydra who's only used with Phainon instead of having that bitch be a 4* with the same kit on Phainon's banner.
>>562335062To be fair 4* at np1 will deal miserable damage, you can't even 120 them until high bond levels
>>562335083>Doesn't care about ceryda at all>Muh monies Get fucked looney
>>562335027This WOULD be a solvable problem if the shop was updated to have every 4* available like ZZZ doesIt would be costly, relatively speaking, but mitigate the problem somewhat and allow for some highly specialized and or generalist 4* to bridge the gap until the real support is made available
>muh 4 star eidolon are harder and more frustrating to get than a 5 star in which you can still lose the fucking flip.
>>562334976Yes, so she's weak and has no actual niche anymore>>562335083Getting mad about fantasy scenarios is not only retarded, it's doubly so when a 4-star buffer instead of Cerydra means that Phainon would be an irredeemable brick by now. He's already terrible at E0 especially without Cerydra and if the amp/buffing capabilities were on a 4-star he'd be even weakerNot to mention that even if they made Cerydra a 4-star those 150 rolls would only net you her at E4 at best meaning her biggest potential at E6 would still elude you, unless they somehow made a new 5-star AND a perfect buffer 4-star on the same banner which has never happened in this game ever.
>>562335062Really? I could've sworn there were some characters that really wanted NP2 or higher.
>>562335308At least there's a guarantee. There's no guarantee for 4-stars and you can pull hundreds of times on a banner without ever getting a single copy.
>>562334862Lan Yan is just an example, you can still get other 4 stars that help you clear whenever you start. Those HSR free 5 stars are not accessible any more
>>562335327>Yes, so she's weak and has no actual niche anymoreYour 5-star by next year, see Boothill, Aglaea and co
I need to massage and worship Madam Herta's feet
>>562335062I find it funny fgoshills think anyone here knows or cares enough about your game to even know what you're talking about to respond
>>562335327No because I got E2 Phainon on his first banner you stupid cocksucker and that would've been an easy E6 Cerydra and I would've saved 150 rolls that I could've spent for Yao Guang and I wouldn't be utterly fucked right now with just a shitty useless Sparxie for SW.Fuck you.
>>562335308I only got Guinaifen to E4 before I got a single Jiaoqiu, and that's with me taking 150+ pulls, 4* shills can fuck off for all I careAnon above pulled E3 Castorice and couldn't even get his Gallagher to E6, 4* rateups in this game suck dick
>>562335387somehow I only have c1 Razor after quite a while and liberal rolling. And one copy was free
Whenever the thread is over remember anti 4 star posters won long ago and nothing discussed here will change that reality.
>>562335513You dont need to know anything because in FGO they don't lock half of the gameplay kit of a character behind rolling multiple copies, just 1 copy is enough to give you access to the entire kit kek
>>562334617Yelan is worse than XQ unless you have cons on her or have elegy for team buffing, but even then XQ is sometimes better because genshin had the amazing idea to not pause boss timers during burst animations.Mavuika and Durin both have gimped off-field kits at C0 because they don't want to directly powercreep XL.Bennett is the biggest mistake in the game and the reason why the entire buffer roster until Furina is shit.Lanyan is useless, literally IT filler.Iansan and Chevy are cope without cons.Post your dire clear. You can't.
>>562333626i still think xueyi's design is 5* tier, if not above
>>562335565>and that would've been an easy E6 CerydraYes, making these massive assumptions:>you winning the E6 lottery with no guarantees>a new 5-star AND a perfect buffer 4-star on the same banner, which has never happened in this game ever, happensYou're not only seething about complete fantasy scenarios, you're also blaming your bad luck RNG on me. If you got Cerydra in 1 pull you would never be making this post right now, but realizing this would require an above average level of mental capacity
>>562335686Because fgo has no gameplay
uh oh
shaky meltypot
>hsrkeks getting uppity about their forced e2s1 shitpatties againImao why do you guys pick the worst things to defend.
>>562334965Jade is literally worse than doll herta.
Post fave fgo 4*
>Human milk has the highest concentration of Lactose (milk sugars) among most mammals, making it super sweet like melted ice cream. >Women are also efficient at turning their dietary calories into breastmilk at an 80% ratio, making them efficient milk producers Why are women not getting milked like dairy cattle when they're basically built for it? I will personally start by milking Bronya as the first test subject but I'm open to suggestions.
>>562335917Why fgo and not genshin? Dumb ass raider.
>le E2S1 or brick talking points in the big 26Only a few characters in this game are E2 merchants
>>562335917ibaraki
That moment in the penacony finale when black swan asks how is it possible we saw Misha outside the dream when he can only exist inside it, I got actual unironic chills. That's my favorite moment in any HSR quest, with some amphoreus a moments close second.
>>562335040I still need to get past the HP inflation myself, brute forcing it will work eventually.I hope it's a nice thing to know there's at least one person here who thinks you're cool! I'll be here for a couple of hours, but goodnight whenever you're going
>>562335836I don't think that's particularly true but I don't own Jade to test it extensively and frankly I don't think many people in general own Jade to even post showcases anywhere. I don't actually even know how her kit works in detailThe reason doll hertas pop up in theherta are because she's 0 cost, Jade is 1 cost minimum and that's what many use to determine when something's good or not, but the answer might be different if cost wasn't a factor
>i only have to eat shit some of the timeda wei thanks your sheep ass
>>562335917
>Still the laughing stock of HSR.
>>562335743>new 5-star AND a perfect buffer 4-star on the same banner, which has never happened in this game ever, happensNo fucking shit you fucking retard that's why we're complaining and having this debate. Why the fuck is this not in this game when it exists in Genshin and ZZZ? (Also Gallagher was BiS for Acheron in 2.1 so you're wrong)Bitch I'm seething at reality. That useless bitch had no reason being a 5* with her shitty kit. Even her story relevance is shit.
im a schizo who hates everything chinese and thats why I skipped yaoguang even thoough shes top meta
>>562336146That's not a 4*
>>562336021Stop being so nice!!! I'll get overly attached and all that jazz... but yeah, sparxie's sp team honestly bums through it, but the runs still take an hour long which is a pain. and i'm going to sleep already, struggling to even type without deleting my shit and typing it from scratch...good night <3
>>562335917The doll kunoichi
>>562336059No, doll herta is literally better. I've tested this in those shill events like the racoon baseball one where you could use trial jade or in CW. Her kit is fundamentally worse than doll herta. You can also test this in the new DU on those conversion nodes. She needs to be able to trigger for FUA from ANY team member, not just the designated one, to even be able to compete with doll herta.
>>562336191>Also Gallagher was BiS for Acheron in 2.1Gallagher is a generic sustain and has zero synergy for Acheron. In fact Aventurine at E0S1 was Acheron's BiS due to the fact that his cone let him debuff enemies. Aside from that, any Preservation with the Trend cone was Acheron's true BiS because of how the lightcone worked.>Bitch I'm seething at realityKeep that to yourself then, I have no interest in hearing about your bad luck or bad decisionmaking.
>>562335513This image was done when genshin was going through sumeruAnd genshin eidolons have gotten way worse since then kek
Really cool thanks
>>562336319I don't know how good the trial kits are, I'm assuming they're godawful (plus my THerta doesn't have a 130 speed setup that could take advantage of Jade's speed buff fully)But I'll take your word for it
>>562336417>not enough ehr>brick>too much ehr>brickDelete this stat already
>>562335917People were celebrating when okita got her summer version even if she was a 4*People here would SEETHE if their favorite SP would turn into a 4star...
>>562336415Kinda crazy that Genshin has gotten a free pass with its creep? Unless the game is shrimply good enough to make up for it. My friends tell me the fights are even more restrictive with the same BiS team building shit as HSR but with the usual low # of free rolls.
>>562336586Tbf she's kinda shit gameplay wise
I sure am glad I don't have to waste hours manually farming for traces.
>>562336451Herta literally doesn't need speed, Jade's speed buff does nothing. The reason you don't see Jade in PF 0-cycles even with things like E6 Herta is that she is just flat out worse at feeding energy to both Herta and Tribbie.
>>562336178you just know xhe posts in /hsrg/
>>562336342>Aventurine at E0S1Kill yourself>bad decisionmaking.>Bad decision making is rolling a dps and their best in slot supportNigga you lost the plot. You're so far gone down the hole of sucking off hsr cocks that you even make sense anymore.
>>562336178Uh oh Xolze Telos bros
>>562336178OUR FUARKIN QUEEN
>>562336586Turns out when you don't have a forced 3-6 month meta cycle guillotine hanging over the playerbase, people are much more likely to roll for who they want.
>>562336178i saw this video and people were commenting that the damage he was doing with sw999 was impossible with the relics he posted at the end of the video if you try to replicate it yourself on the ps. couple of hours later, i checked the comments again and all the ones that pointed this out were mysteriously deletedpretty disingenuous to claim skill issue when you're not even being honest about your relics yourself
>>562336621>The reason you don't see Jade in PF 0-cycles even with things like E6 Herta I mean she's just +1 cost so there's no reason to use her in THE costfagging site like I said
Next thread will be better
>>562336602Genshin got away with powercreep and stinginess because its endgame was a total joke for the longest timeNow that's no longer the case so it's actually worse than HSR now kek
>>562336586>white tier assi like her
Not a single HSR story is even remotely as good as Lostbelt 6
>>562336602you can still brute force stuff with characters like mavuika and skirk, it's only really nod krai that started with trying to shill forced dogshit mechanics
>>562336798Amphoreus mogs.
>>562336723uh oh. Xolze Tardos melty.
>>562336204I'll slow it down next time. have a good one!
>>562336725The site is about collecting clears, not "costfagging", whatever that means. You don't see Anaxa here for the same reason you don't see Serval, Jade or even Argenti. They are flat out worse than doll herta for PF.
>>562336798I liked lb7 more
>>562336639Xhe's lava chicken chan
>>562336723wouldn't surprise me coming from a yao shill
>>562336723Go king. Defend your queen
>>5623367983.4 alone destroys it
>>562336669>Kill yourselfAnother case of seething about completely unrelated things. First you advocate for Gallagher but then seethe about the Sigga, very confusing levels of seething here.Again, learn what BiS means. Either way, Gallagher never had any synergy with Acheron whatsoever.>Bad decision making is rolling a dps and their best in slot supportYour bad decision making is the Sparxie seething part. I'm not particularly interested in you not getting Yao Guang or not.Again, if you're going to argue hypothetical fantasy scenarios, you're still better off arguing for a fantasy scenario where they give out Cerydra for free because she's a 5-star rather than a 4-star in your proposed fantasy scenario.Which again loops back to our point of free 5-stars being superior to 4-stars in every way.
>>562336798It doesn’t have to be.
>>562336847Well.. I'm not complaining but I think you get it...nini!
>>562336858What cones does RMC use, I faintly remember something about them being able to use other characters cones?
>>562336858>You don't see Anaxa here for the same reason you don't see Serval, Jade or even Argenti. They are flat out worse than doll herta for PF.Yes, but they would still clear. "Worse" on that site is purely determined through cost efficiency, hence it's a costfagging site.There's no point in uploading a clear with Anaxa when you could do that with doll Herta instead. As evidenced by there being no Anaxa clears.
>>562336723>>562336178POST THE VIDEO FAGGOTSI WANT TO SEE WHO'S BEEFING WITH QUEEN XOLZE
>>562336798Sorry, I meant to say Genshin.
>>562336858Can I see the doll herta stats on this website?
>>562337074https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnwG9zHjtHA
>>562337147THX GG
Tbf if you use Anaxa on PF of all things, you're a massive retard
A very good litmus test is to ask if a person liked Amphoreus' storyline.
>>562337263Even more reason why nobody would upload something like that on a separate website
Which one caused more damage to their game Sumeru or Amphoreus?
>>562337263skill issue 2bh
>>562337263I like him tho
>>562337364Natlan
>>562337326>>562337364another drink, bartender
>>562337364ZZZ destroyed the entire company so that one
>>562337364Lb6 unironically since fgo has not gotten a good story in years now but it's fine because lb6 was great
>>562337440whoops i meant floptaine
From now on I'm only masturbating to women
>>562337147>Astabut 4 star bad
yo
>>562337536QQ, april fools was yesterday
>>562337536Congrats!
>>562337003You can see RMC use Cyrene's cone in one of the clears there. You can also use Hyacine's cone, but the mem cone is good enough since Herta is not lacking for damage in PF, but rather energy gen.>>562337124You can, each clear has a link to the video with the character stats and relics.>>562337047They would clear but not 0-cycle. That's the entire point. "Worse" is not about cost efficiency, but being able to 0-cycle or not and how much AV it took. Take this PF, for example:E2 Anaxahttps://youtu.be/vH7dfxPwxWA?t=199doll hertahttps://youtu.be/3Qfs_JxbbkQ?t=223You can see Anaxa clears SLOWER than doll herta.
>>562337501ORT during lb7 was kino, that's what iron tomb should have been
Free Gil! Free Gil! Free Gill!Free Gil! Free Gil! Free Gil!Free Gil! Free Gil! Free Gil! Free Gil!
>>562337576all in break effect
>>562337550there were comments saying the run had impossible damage for the stats shown anyway
I mog Phainon, go fuck yourself, twink.
>>562336798I recently watched UBW why does everyone like this guy? he's a fraud
>>562337619Posted it again award
ctrl + f>Planarcadia 4 results>Amphoreus 28 results
>>562337619Yeah I count lb7 as good too but it was still 3 years ago, nothing good since
Which Honkais are Finnish cum magnets?
>>562337810The mindbreak will continue
You WILL roll for Rin
>>562337859Arlan and Peppy
>>562337797He is le misogynist xD
>>562337797Watch Strange Fake
>>562337536Cocks are more aesthetic than pussies bro what gives?
>>562337810If we forget amphoreus Cyrene dies. We can't let that happen.
we like yuri here, right?
>>562336932>Gallagher never had any synergy with Acheron whatsoever.Shut the FUCK up retard>Again, if you're going to argue hypothetical fantasy scenarios, you're still better off arguing for a fantasy scenario where they give out Cerydra for free because she's a 5-star rather than a 4-star in your proposed fantasy scenario.>Which again loops back to our point of free 5-stars being superior to 4-stars in every way.Shut the FUCK up retard. Did they give her a away for free? Huh? No the fuck they didn't despite her being a useless bitch with a shitty kit made best in slot for one shitty character. In Genshin, that whore would've been a 4*.And guess what? 6 new 4*s a year including multiple best in slot ones even at C0 >>> 1 free niche 5* a year.
>>562337957not many are saying this
>>562337810all one shitposter btw
>>562337784Ner kind of fell off tbqhwy
>>562337957Of course!
Amphoreus schizophrenia is something else
>>562337859Hyacine
>>562338039She's so princess
>>562337925Dare I assume the gender of the people who like him?
>>562337986>Shut the FUCK up retardIncredible argument. You have no idea how Acheron works, nor do you know how Gallagher works.>Did they give her a away for free? Huh?No, just like they didn't make her a 4-star and put her on Phainon's banner.Again, if you're going to argue about fantasy scenarios, you'd still prefer getting the free 5-star Cerydra over having to gamble for the 4-star version of her.Which brings us back to the original point of the discussion -> free 5-stars are better than new 4-stars.>6 new 4*s a year including multiple best in slot ones even at C0 Completely delusional levels of fantasy at this point. None of the 4-stars in this game so far have been anywhere near BiS of anything.If you're going to argue this levels of fantasy, I can just say that I prefer having 6 free 5-stars every year instead over having 6 "BiS at E0" 4-stars that you need to gamble for. Both equally delusional.
>>562337957everyone is saying this BTW
>>562331591Cerydra doesn't deserve to be a 4*, she's way better than that
>>562337859Misha and Arlan
>>562338271Fgo players so trannies
Soon
Remembrance Ice sustain when?
>>562338513Yao Guang and Sunday better front this
>>562338298>None of the 4-stars in this game so far have been anywhere near BiS of anything.Oh sorry, yes Doll Herta exists. But she's given for free anyway (at least until E5) so she's exempt from the argument.And yes, Moze for Feixiao I guess. But having two examples out of 24 4-stars means that the BiS rate is 1/12, meaning you'd need to go two years of six new 4-stars to get one BiS 4-star. And in that case you could just get one free 5-star per year instead.
>>562331591you forgot the part where that 4* is useless until C6, which statistically you won't get until a C2 5* and there's no guarantee so you can get fuckedmeanwhile hsr is giving out free archers and DHPT, GENSHIN COULD NEVER
>>562338569No repeats!
>>562338513We dont have surplus revenue for that now kekThey will cancel it just like the cancelled the genshin ones
>>562338513>singer>conductor>who will be in the front this time?
>>562331591Cery is literally the most important heir after Phainon. No one, literally no one wants their favorite characters to be 4* bricks, unlike gencucks who have so low roll income they can't imagine rolling past C0 on their 5* characters.
>>562338513>mfw in the current state of the general even the concert threads won't be the usual reprieve from that constant shitposting and hate
The amphobrowns couldn't argue against 4*s importance to the story after Gallagher and Misha were mentioned so they reverted to metachurl shit how sad
>>562338697The difference is Natlan was a colossal flop while Amphoreus was a colossal success
>>562338298idk about the old stuff but gallagher was bis for firefly before fugue came out due to a lack of superbreak ampers. and even then, he was still sometimes used to get firefly enough energy to do a 1 turn ult in wave 2. moze and huntmarch were both bis for feixiao for a long time, topaz was never bis at any point due to anti-synergy with feixiao
I have been learning japanese for no particular reason
>>562338875Dont worry, dahlia with 3.8 and planarcadia turboflopping harder than ZZZ made sure we wont have budget for that now, so most likely no concert
>>562338917be mindful of the dunning kruger effect
>>562338875>Amphoreus>successif it was, then 4.X wouldn't be filled with SPs
>>562338840Maybe because the argument was always about gameplay and Misha had barely any actual story relevance in the end.Gallagher being a sole exception of a 4-star having some level of main story relevance doesn't mean shit when a dozen examples of non-story relevant 4-stars exist to counter that AND we can have NPCs like Kuchiba and Fulwish in the story right now without either of them needing to be 4-stars.
>>562337797He's better and cooler in>Fate Zero>Fate Extra
>>562338986The characters were planned before Amphoreus even released thoughbeit.
>>562338986why not? they do a planet of new characters and then follow that up with a planet of SPsvery normal way to balance things especially as the cast bloats
>Amphoreus was a colossal success
Yes. In fact it was so successful every single game copied it.
>>562338986>Honkai Impact game>not full of SPs
Amphoreus was so good we are getting Amphoreus 2 before penacony 2.
>>562337797watch the best fate. Fate Zero
>>562339109it beat genshin when penacony couldn't
Not one unit from ampho outsold the brickeron
Brothaaaaa
>>562339250not a single amphoreus character sold more than mavuika lol
OBLITERATED that foid
>>562339312Mavuika flopped bigly tho, she needed to be carried by Stacytlali
>>562339329...in bed
>>562338986Amphoreus had 3 different SPs though? That's more than 1.x and 2.x combined
>Gallagher is meta>No one cared about needing dupes to complete his kit.>People bragged about how good he was and how HSR was so much better than Genshin because of it.>Gallagher stops being meta>Now 4 stars suck and should not exist in the gameDon't forget that people are only against 4 stars because HSR stopped making them because of powercreep and it's the only way to shit on Genshin.
>>562339312Mavuika flopped and slopped. All those sales? Citlali. And they still lost to Phainon.
>>562338712
>>562339329don't know why people act like these patches were the end of everything, I had fun
>>562338713Shartnaxa, shartdei, shartpher and shartrydra are worthless bricks who should've been 4*s.>>562338618>you forgot the part where that 4* is useless until C6Except every 4* released in the last 2 years. You clearly don't play Genshin. Shut up.>>562338298>You have no idea how Acheron works, nor do you know how Gallagher works.You clearly never played them. Fuck off.>I prefer having 6 free 5-stars every year instead over having 6 "BiS at E0" 4-stars that you need to gamble for. Both equally delusional.And you're never getting 6 new free 5*s a yeat meamwhile genshin releases multiple new best in slot 4*s a year even at C0
>>562339417HSR gave out strong free 5* and a shop you can get some good ones from instead. Genshin could never.
>>562339442I don't think she performed well enough to be the face of the concert but ok
>>562338712you won't like this answer: Cyrene
>>562339428Phainon flopped even harder, his sorry ass needed Firefly and the fate collab to save him
>>562339452>You clearly never played them. Fuck off.Mhm, clearly not. I'm still using E2S1 Acheron to this day.Not once have I used Gallagher with her because there is zero synergy. Acheron always wanted a Preservation unit with Trend due to the way her mechanics work.
Bludd lives in the big 26 and still thinks that Genshin is more generous than HSR bruhhh fr fr :skull: :skull:Bro probably watches Frieren too diddy ahhh mf :skull: :skull:
>>562339442remember when we got to see future characters in trailers?
>>562339540Cyrene in a suit, we all want that.
Good morning bwo
>>562339443they're fun but the game doesn't survive off filler patchesthey should add stuff like this on top of the main story, something like a 2nd banner trailblaze side quest and the game would be way better off
>>562339491Genshin instead has 1.0 4*s being best in slot 7 years later like Benny and Sucrose and Fischl and some very good ones like Xingiu.
>>562339540the mindbreak will continue until morale improves
>>562339491a launch free 5* is better than every free brick in HSR btw
>>562339556>FireflyFunny you mention that when Mavuika also came with Hutao's skin. And Hutao is A LOT more popular than fireflop.
well this thread was more lively than the last
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Bikeflopper melty
>562339670>there are retards that will actually take this bait
>>562339574Genshin is more generous by providing a 10 times better experience for free
>>562339662Those 1.0 4*s are the reason why your favorite genshin 5*s have bricked kits btw.
>>562339491genshin gives out cons for some decent characters, which i would honestly prefer over our completely worthless brick shop
>>562339452>Except every 4* released in the last 2 years. You clearly don't play Genshin. Shut up.yeah because having your Zibai be gimped because you didn't pull 7 copies of Illuga is so goodfuck off i'm glad 4*s are dead
>>562339772There hasn't been a bricked 5* in Genshin since Sigewinne 2 years ago. Shut the FUCK up.
>>562339670>she's good because... you can cheese some SO bosses!!!!!!!! (zhongli is mandatory btw)lol lmao
>>562339417>No one cared about needing dupes to complete his kit.Because everyone had them because they rolled for Acheron.Naturally nobody cares about needing dupes when you have them, you retard. For new players not having his eidolons is definitely an issue.>Now 4 stars suck and should not exist in the gameNot what the argument is, and the game has gotten two years' worth of patches since then. The rosters of players (especially veterans) has grown larger and the need for new 4-stars, especially sustains, has diminished heavily.We also just got a free E0 DanPT who required zero pulls to get. When this is the alternative, I definitely prefer the DanPT way over them making DanPT a 4-star that I need to roll for.
>>562339780RM and her cone are a lot more important than cons for powercrept bricks you can't even get more than 1 of. Literally the only meta relevant cons there is C1 Shenhe.
>>562339874everyone owns GODli
>>562339565she didn't use trend when jiaoqiu was her bis
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>>562339780>cons for some decent charactersWhat decent characters lol they even made sure to exclude Yelan and Kazuha despite them being washed
>>562339926That's assuming you rolled Jiaoqiu and even then her BiS isn't Gallagher but Aventurine at S1. If you had Jiaoqiu you could just run someone like Fu Xuan who gave crit rate over Gally giving nothing for herThis also took place after 2.1 which was a part of the original argument, but that's long gone by now.
>>562339846Yae is shit because of Fischl.Yelan was gimped because of XQ.Every single anemo char after Kazuha sucks ass because of Sucrose.Let's not even start with Bennett.
