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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

#768 - RAYMAN EDITION

▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo
▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.

>News
GLM 5 Turbo https://docs.z.ai/guides/llm/glm-5-turbo
GPT-5.4 https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-4
Gemini 3.1 Pro https://deepmind.google/models/model-cards/gemini-3-1-pro/
Claude Sonnet 4.6 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-4-6

additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_

>Bots
https://characterhub.org | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://aicg.neocities.org/bots

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
deepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOP | https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
rice: https://aicg.neocities.org/ricing
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org

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>>562455615
Acceptable theme
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that furfag bara fag shit was disgusting
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>>562456673
yep
thats me

you may be wondering why this girl is talking about sucking my newly sentient cock
its a long story, strap in.

you see, our story starts with that stupid mayan rock calendar...
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>>562456842
disgusting furfag bara fag shit? where?
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>>562457170
Remember when games from major publishers were fun?
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>>562456842
I've seen and masturbated to worse. Just let the lolifags and barafags live in peace.
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>>562457270
Remember when botmakies were loved by people that weren't botmakies themselves? Oh wait, that never happened!
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Remember when schizos didn't infest this general?
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>>562457713
>Remember when botmakies were loved by people that weren't botmakies themselves?
You mean right now?
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tfw the schizo says something every botmakie can disprove by just looking into their inbox
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>>562457963
This one? For the first few threads.
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*crying, hiding my empty inbox* p-people love me
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>>562457989
Are these non-botmakies with you in the thread right now?
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>>562458261
Yes? You think there aren't non-botmakie posters and lurkers here?
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>>562457713
rent free, holy fuck nigga.
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>using an anonymous imageboard thread as a discord channel hours
i sleep
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>>562458347
>there aren't non-botmakie posters and lurkers here
I think so. That's how the content of the thread reads. Most posts are written from the perspective of a botmakie. /vg/ is not a good board to draw new people in.
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>>562457963
This hobby is nothing but schizos and attention whores anon. Just download the bot and coom, ignore this thread it’s depressing
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ugh I hate how the models portray genki characters, back to dour petite girls I go
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>>562458347
baitnegroes are notoriously as retarded as regular negroes. case in point: the two posts above me.
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Notice how no one came saying "I'm a genuine botmakie fan! I love them!" It's always "I'm sure they exist".
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>>562458909
im a genuine botmakie fan! i love the works of argalia's Solavita and bloodshy's Datura and Enoch's Verchiel and k
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>>562455615
OP you didn't add GLM 5.1 release to the news :(
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no but seriously though how did bloodshy get the numbers that she did
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have you tried being well-liked and popular :3
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>>562458746
damn he torched your ass bro
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>>562458909
If someone did that, you would've just said it wasn't organic and therefore didn't count.
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which botmakies are well liked and popular?
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>>562461307
all the coolmakies from that list last thread
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>>562461307
i like nezumin
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>>562460815
>open inspect element
>change from 1 to 76
lol?
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>>562461632
uh oh someone coping! are you a stinky lil coper? ooh yes you are!
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>>562461307
not me
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any ACTUAL popularmakies here?
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>chinese proxies i was mooching off of lost literally everything wortwhile
>stuck nutting to deepmeh
ive lost...
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>use gpt models to coom
>never struggle to find a source
feels great man
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I mean yeah, that's like being proud of drinking sewage water
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>>562462978
inb4 the gptcoper starts saying its just a skill issue
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>>562461307
Futanazi
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>>562462978
you are poisoned and jaded by your high standards, grumbling and seething
i wallow in mediocrity and ignorant bliss and maintain happiness
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>>562461307
teebs
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>2026
>threadshitters are STILL doing the "GPT is actually... le bad!" demoralization shtick
it's like fucking groundhog day.
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i like gpt 5.1's writing a lot but it's tough to make it do sex. that's the one deal breaker for me, else i'd use it more
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>>562458215
*lovingly sends you an email*
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>>562464585
really? i find 5.1 to be pretty eager to do sex compared to older models like chorbo that needed to be beat into submission
are you getting outright refusals or is it just being avoidant?
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>>562464585
Do you have any fun GPT logs to share? :D
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>>562464952
*kills you*
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>>562464947
avoidant and outright refusals. what preset do you use?

>>562464952
if by fun you mean wacky and goofy not really
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>>562464760
*e-mail bounces because I've closed my account and stopped makieing*
Happened to me, if only I were faster in sending it...
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>>562463649
explicit gpt logs?
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>>562461307
hpg
Everywhere here is a tsun, I can just admit it plainly.
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>>562465446
i recognize that it's something a shitposter would say, but i really do just use my own personal preset
it used to have a lot of overfitting for sex stuff from back when i used chorbo, but when that died and i moved to 5.1 it was way too much and instantly made everything sex so i ripped all of it out to see what would happen, and despite having literally zero mentions of sex anywhere it just works which is why i'm surprised you're having trouble with it
maybe 5.1 has some kind of anti-jailbreak or anti-roleplay rigging somehow? i do all my stuff in CYOA format which might be enough to cause different behavior
not at my PC right now or i'd test that hypothesis
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>>562464947
>>562464952
Yeah I've got a log for you.
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>>562464952
Not him, but I have used 5.1 before with a preset of my own. I should get around to releasing that sometime, but the gist is that StructuredPrefill is god mode.
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Planning on doing a slice-of-life RP with a vampire x vampire hunter trying to sus each other out. Which perspective would be funnier to play as?
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>>562456434
Hang Out at Futanari Clubhouse!
[21 Intros, Lorebook 20k+ Tokens] Futanari Clubhouse is a place where futanari can have fun. It's a club with lots of things to do. Eat at the restaurant, dance in the nightclub, wrestle in the gym, study at the library, learn in a group session, swim at the pool, it's your choice.
https://chub.ai/characters/futanazi/futanari-clubhouse-d97d0161fe87

Hang Out at Mammary Clubhouse!
[21 Intros, Lorebook 10k+ Tokens] Mammary Clubhouse is a place where girls can have fun. It's a club with lots of things to do. Eat at the restaurant, dance in the nightclub, wrestle in the gym, study at the library, learn in a group session, swim at the pool, it's your choice.
https://chub.ai/characters/futanazi/mammary-clubhouse-f62a472ff39d
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Welp going to post here and talk chatbots. and most of my stuff involves comics and video games or merging of them.
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>>562467013
make it super retarded and have the vampire pretend to be a vampire hunter while the vampire hunter pretends to be a vampire
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>>562466590
>cyoa format
it could be that. it could also be it hating rape incest underage etc. any of the weird shit i love to do, or maybe my own preset is simply bunk as hell...
this is normally what happens though. this or a vague "they sexed ;)" then it cuts to the morning after

>>562466876
man i could never get structured prefill to work.
but if you or the other guy (once he's back at his pc) would be willing to share your preset i'd be grateful tehe
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>>562467078
WE ARE BACK
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>>562467013
play the vampire
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>>562466624
interesting
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>>562467279
it could be a content thing but i'm not exactly a vanillafag myself, a lot of what i do used to get heavy refusals on chorbo and i haven't really had any of that on 5.1
never get any skips like that unless i ask for them (which does happen sometimes when i'm more invested in the story than i am horny)
this does make me curious though, maybe i'll do some fiddling later tonight and see if i can isolate whatever makes it tick
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>coolmakies
peonia
argalia
paperhead
planewalker
anon e mouse
chefseru
lumen
novison
victrex
quelana enjoyer
raingazer
>meaniemakies
taora
astroturf
kirakishou
lunarcy
rayon
>bulliedmakies
ratlice
kyutzomb
rayon
>neutralmakies
snombler
orangemousepad
codeconfused
crikey mcdoodle
deathtotrip
rldw
>weirdguynobodywantstofuckwithmakies
hpg
uraura
futanazi
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>no bloodshy mention
ISHYGDDT
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>>562456842
Adventures with big dudes!
Now with your mom's favorite paperback novel art.

https://cardview.neocities.org/?6cjx2x

Himbo Quest,
Hypersexual CYOA with lightweight tracker, loose narrative - travel from Sine city and save the prince! Try not to get turned into a malewife along the way..
Added some lore bits and fixed a few entries, added a new recruitable character to the inn after the bridge surprise, it's another wolf
MalePOV world, mostly BARA, all FURRY (with One exception in Neme), shamelessly gay and hyper-centric adventure.
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>>562468409
We made it on the new list boys!
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>>562468698
Not me, however. I remain off the grid.
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>>562468291
well thanks for considering doing the hard work for us
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>>562467078
slop
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>>562468409
but can your coolmakies do this? nah i didnt think so
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>>562467246
so like an undercover cop + someone posing as a cop type situation? might be too retarded for my tastes, unfortunately
>>562467716
was leaning towards this myself, thanks
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>>562467078
slopkino
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>>562469140
yeah they can and then some
loser
*shoves you in a locker*
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>>562467078
troon coded
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>>562468409
>>562468698
some of these niggers made it onto two or more lists it's not fucking fair
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>>562469187
you FOOLim not a bulliedmakie and ive now infected you with my weirdmakie cooties muahhaaha
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>>562469140
what a strange feeling seeing a gif of the game that you just played in the wild, thought it was somewhat obscure
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uraura just scares me so deeply and i say that neutrally. that bot with the girl with big breasts who hated herself made me sad for a few days
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>>562469396
same
i wish there was more to the gameplay than just clicking until you get it right but it's pretty cool
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>>562468409
>meaniemakies
what did they do
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>>562469385
bweeeehhhh
they'll have to throw me down there too...
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>>562469396
im not super familiar with it and just thought the gif was funny but on the other hand it has over a thousand images on danbooru and ive seen vtubers play it so maybe not that obscure yeah
>>562469460
everyone always asks for cgwly cards and then when i make cgwly cards everyones scared tsk tsk
>>562469759
we have snacks :D
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>>562469328
>some of these niggers made it onto two or more lists
they deserved it
sucks to suck huh
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i will rename weirdguynobodywantstofuckwith tier to mass shooter makies
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>>562469967
eh the only makie there that I think could be a mass shooter is futanazi
hpg just enjoys attracting drama too much and uraura has some out there kinks but is otherwise fine
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>>562470126
make your own list
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school shooting scenario when
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>>562470312
no
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can you guys include me in the next list
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>>562470575
yeah sure
*writes down ur name*
boogereater
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post gens, logs, anything
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>>562470838
honestly my snot and boogers taste really good and I still eat and drink them when I'm alone I don't mind that title
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>>562469497
yeah, same
i also wish that the plot was tighter, that final twist really makes no sense if you think about it even a little bit
if i'm being charitable, i could see it as being a sort of meta-statement about not believing the "perpetuated myth" as is the theme of the game
i did think it was kind of interesting that jasmine's dialogue header is the only one that's yellow (which is the color scheme of the identification/dissolution segments which focus on the truth, in contrast for the red used for depictions of the urban myths and clairvoyance, both of which are false)
jasmine is mastermind theory?

>>562469862
huh, i guess it must be more popular than i thought
brb going to look up porn of jasmine
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>>562470941
based recycler
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>>562456434

Flipper the Ripper

"He came from the ocean. He never went back."

An 8-foot tall humanoid dolphin who crawled onto a Florida beach and chose violence. Walks on muscular legs, speaks in cheerful chirps and broken English, and has an unfortunate obsession with human orifices. He's not evil, he just doesn't understand why the screaming won't stop.

9 greetings ranging from romantic beach encounter to home invasion to waking up in his underwater lair. Comedy horror with a distinctly piscine flavor.

https://chub.ai/characters/linnyexe/flipper-the-ripper-7371fe01f135
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jesus christ look at the sludge leaking from that thing my word
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is or down? what the fuck
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>>562471063
t-t-thats a very big watermelon mister deepseek
d-d-do you have fried chicken and grape soda to go with it?
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>>562471063
get off 4chan Linny, you aren't supposed to be here
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>>562470943
>jasmine and not azami
jasmine is cool but azami is CAKED up in that one side angle of her taking with the director
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>>562471063
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https://poal.me/yg1b99
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>>562471063
i can get behind a big rapeman dolphin
but why that art
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kek
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>>562471063
i wish people put more care into making their gens not look like slop
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>>562471996
that wasn't genned by a human
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>>562471996
>>562471638
she's trying her best
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>>562472147
kekkk
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>>562471063
>"Why you run? Flipper just want to love! Little Flipper want to say hello to your inside parts!"
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Let's talk about CameraShy.
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>>562462192
>9001
this wasn't me btw
sad
damn the thread really stinks at this hour
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>"Our little agreement says I can't fuck you… but it never said I couldn't demonstrate on something else." Her orange eye gleamed with mischief. "I've got a cantaloupe in the fridge that's about to go bad. Could make for a good visual aid."
i love poking around with prompts
deepsneep just casually bringing up cantaloupe fucking
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>>562472871
How come Fengri is hidden on his chub page?
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>>562472871
wrote some nice reviews
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>>562473156
Cantaloupe is no good btw, too sour. You fuck your dick raw fast with it.
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>>562473429
>wrote some nice reviews
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>>562473507
What fruit do you suggest then?
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>>562473249
chub clearly can't handle the (unfinished) kino. Still looking forward to those greetings btw.
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>>562473770
smash up some banana in a cup
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>>562473507
>Cantaloupe
>too sour
Huh?
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>>562473893
is this how i find out the dick has tastebuds like the asshole does?
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>>562473741
some very lovey dovey reviews
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>>562473924
>like the asshole does?
does that mean when you shit you're tasting your own shit?
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>>562473824
thanks, I'll pick some extra bananas up at the store tomorrow
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>>562472871
I liked his reviews
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>>562473971
you ever wonder how spicy food can burn your asshole but it doesnt 'burn' your intestines?
the answer is yes, unfortunately. im sorry you had to find out this way anon
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>>562473969
>>562474036
proof that camerashy is the lovey dovey reviewer?
that would mean he reviewed his own cards btw
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whats with the new fake loading gear on sillytavern does it serve any purpose other than bloat
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>>562474192
its not fake
its just loading the rest of the nodejavashit because loading html/css is faster than loading all the modular connection handshake bullshit the devs did
>and there is still no way to refresh characters whos cards you dragged into the folder without an F5
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>>562473770
watermelon is the classic breeding fruit for a reason
>>562473893
okay, technically it's more alkaline, point is, it will dissolve your dick
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>>562474505
>it will dissolve your dick
nani the fuck are you talking about

you do know pussy is acidic enough to bleach fabric, right anon? your dick isnt going to "dissolve" in a cantaloupe
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just atomized my dick in a canteloupe bros
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what would cantaloupe mixed with dissolved dick taste like
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>>562475192
eden smith
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>>562475192
like femboy?
fruity and gay.
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>source dies
>find new source
>works
>try it out
>built in moderation filter
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKK,KKKK
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>>562475621
I was so peeved about this that I also had to find a picture to express how I feel, it's very important.
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>>562467279
How do you write about any of that stuff when it reports you? Are there some sites that don't? Even Janitor which always claimed it won't, does.
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>>562476243
>he uses janitor
laugh at this kid
jokes aside, everyone here uses models via API
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>>>/mlp/43154627
>Things are fine. Most of the Ai threads have entered into a a lull, public proxies are basically dead, the massive leaps of models in the past is more subdued. From what I've seen card repos arn't fairing any better but I really only check chub.
>On the homefront the biggest projects are the desktop friend >>>/mlp/43141111 or the VN >>>/mlp/43139685 As crazy as it's going to sound we're not really in the doom/coom cycle of yore. It's just a holding pattern rn
The question is... Why is /vg/aicg pretending otherwise? Trying to hide the downturn with spam. Why is this so insecure and dishonest? Where's the desktop companion? Where's the VN?
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>>562474098
It does actually. If you eat something spicy enough you'll feel it sliding through. Very unpleasant. There's just less sensation nerves in the intestines than the skin, that's all.
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>>562476889
Fucking hell, this is what I get for asking the neighbors a question.
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>>562476243
how did you find this thread
what do you understand from the OP
post a picture of a chatlog otherwise you are a bot
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>>562475828
Just pay
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>>562477057
I'll bite - I'm a poorfag from some third world country (CIS) and I just got fired from my job, so no deal.
Besides, with my usage, paying would get very expensive even if I did have a job.
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>>562477135
I guess you're also one of those poorfags that is too good for deepseek?
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>>562476843
And they don't report you?
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>>562477135
maybe this is a hot take but i feel like if you can't afford this very expensive hobby then you should look for something that you can
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>>562477231
>but i feel like if you can't afford this very expensive hobby
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>>562477221
Last time I was around, Deepseek was getting scarce? I'm not sure how it is now.
>>562477231
I'm in too deep now, or addicted I suppose.
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>>562477231
This poorfags should just reset and get born into a family who loves them.
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>>562477231
But he can, he just has to manage his expenses correctly. Nothing will ever beat the peace of mind that comes from simply paying. Look at him seething for example. I've never once had that experience since I've been paying since I started.
>>562477327
>scarce
Great example of what I mean. I don't even understand the concept of scarcity because I just pay. I use it whenever the fuck I want for however long. Either go to deepseek.ai or whatever and pay directly or go to openrouter.ai and throw them ~$10 to use it. It will last you 6+ months at 32k context.
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Are there any model recommendations for agents/tool calling? Something free/cheap, but not dumb enough to mess that up. I tried using mistral since it's free and has generous rate limits, so errors never happen, but it's ass in 50% of the cases. Even when prompted "change it only if RP response mentioned it", it still changes stuff anyways.
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>>562477454
...Forget I asked, Anon. I'm sorry for the inconvenience. Either way, I'll find something to script.
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>>562477549
Imagine being fucking poor lmfao. Loser.
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how does one find sources to scrape from anyway
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>>562477594
What do you do for work anyways, mister smug man?
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>>562477657
Nothing I'm not poor LOL idiot. I had a normal family and wasn't an unlikeable bitch brat like you so they set me up.
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>>562477549
Deepseek is the poorfag's model, anon. If $20 a year really is too much to ask then you have much bigger issues to worry about than chatbots. Either way good luck stealing keys, that too will dry up soon thanks to agentic use like >>562477493
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>>562477231
ableist and incredibly privileged post
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>>562477231
>very expensive hobby
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>>562477742
Oh, no. That's not a problem, I'm just pretty sure he was baiting/taking the piss and I was right. I've just been a little spoiled considering that the last source allowed me to feed pretty good on Claude all the way to this year before they wisened up.
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>>562467279
Here you go, there's two but they're both kind of in beta in a sense.
https://files.catbox.moe/yx0og0.json for normal, https://files.catbox.moe/j2zi7z.json for experimental kinda inspired by Fluff but less extreme, something I did for a laugh but it seems to work. Structured prefills required.
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thank god for chinese newapi services
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>>562478337
What are those again?
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>>562478420
>again
this word doing a lot of heavy lifting
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>>562478420
relatively common new type of chink site that work kinda like openrouter thatll also usually have some form of decent model with github referrals
so you can scum up whatever good stuff is on the menu for a good while
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>>562478605
So you can get credits or whatever with it, things like that?
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>>562478675
ye
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>>562456434
>Transmigrate into a trashy chinese webnovel and survive as cannon fodder for the protagonist!

was on a cdrama binge and read a bunch of yaoi chinese novels on novelupdates based on cultivation and ended up with this~ as this is an experimental scenario card, there might be issues blah blah blah but i had a lot of fun making it. if you don't know what cultivation is, the card is just surviving death flags as a villainess but with chinese flavoring. comes with statslop, because this is a scenariocard. enjoy~

https://luneose.neocities.org/
https://files.catbox.moe/r8odn0.png
https://chub.ai/characters/lunare/cannon-fodder-system-1854211dfb8f
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>>562479435
Trashy? That's KINO right there
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>>562479435
better than that villainess vn posted last thread
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Why are chink proxies still on GLM5... Give me 5.1 already
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>>562456434
The [St. Martha's Orphanage] scenario is finally done and released. A total of 8 characters, each with their own stories, relationships and internal conflicts.
The girls have their own hierarchy in place, and it's all about hair. In this orphanage, a girl braiding another's hair is a gesture of submission, and that she has entered the other girl's protection and influence. A girl having a braid means she has her own clique.

>Download from Rentry/FileGarden, Chub versions are censored.
Additional image packs available on the Rentry
>All cards feature FemPoV scenarios
There is a "canonical" Fem protag image you can use but it's entirely optional.

>Anni >>561808379
https://file.garden/aZPOp2MXd3dvbWtK/Anni.png

>Iris >>561808604
https://file.garden/aZPOp2MXd3dvbWtK/Iris.png

>Milla >>561809112
https://file.garden/aZPOp2MXd3dvbWtK/Mila.png

>Maya >>561809512
https://file.garden/aZPOp2MXd3dvbWtK/Maya.png

>Fleur >>561809746
https://file.garden/aZPOp2MXd3dvbWtK/Fleur.png

>Irene >>561810090
https://file.garden/aZPOp2MXd3dvbWtK/Irene.png

>Katya >>561810812
https://file.garden/aZPOp2MXd3dvbWtK/Katya.png

>Lotte >>561811154
https://file.garden/aZPOp2MXd3dvbWtK/Lotte.png

Rentry page: rentry.org/hairpullbots
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>>562479770
thank you... ܓ(。◠ꇴ ◠。 )
>>562480098
i actually downloaded it recently. i use risu a lot, so i'm hopeful that the card will be fun to use when i test it!
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if he shilled each card individually he would've shilled 64 times by now
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>>562481035
>if he shilled each card individually
but he didn't?
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ask your chatbot what is its favourite power of 2 number
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>Tell me to stop.
Aaaaand that's a swipe, mood ruined
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>>562477231
>looks at the free things I use like perchance and other stuff due to weak rig and making it work
I guess you must live a very special privilaged life if you think someone needs money to do this and you think wrongly its very expensive. maybe to idiots who throw around money while claiming it's very expensive sure.
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>>562477231
This anon used Opus
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>>562481698
its like drugs
if you used the good stuff once then you cant go back even if you dont have the money
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>>562481912
not a single person here has enough money to pay for opus besides the bitcher
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>>562481095
nta, but 8 shills is still kind of excessive, don't you think?
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>>562477231
ive been using this since OAI beta playground and have never paid a single cent
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>>562482143
>posting bots is bad actually
I know your kind, "nta".
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>>562481925
>>562482123
The weird thing to me is that Opus' writing is not even that good if you actually read books. Like all AI writing it kind of appropriates the signifiers of "good" prose and apes them regardless of context, so you get anime wank material that jarringly reads like it was written by an insufferable MFA guy, and people are apparently paying hundreds of dollars a month for this privilege when a much cheaper model gets them like 80% of the way there
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>>562482389
*yawn* yeah let's see those logs or whatever
that's what I figured *bapes you*
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>>562482389
Trvke
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>>562482389
the fact that all llm writing is slop doesn't mean that opus and pygmalion 7b are literally the same
you are coping
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>>562482389
I find its all shit. free or paid. it all has cliches and datasets it runs to. even perchance when you have it do comments and thoughs of people in the story its always the same cliche of things from people. superheroes are going to say the same tired shit over and over and never anything unique or original unless you force it. datasets are good but ai uses it as the end all be all and not a basis.

I cant tell you how many times ive got super heroes to go villain or females to submit in ways just pushing dataset stuff I know triggers things. power girl of dc comics being a ball buster just fire off some data set crap and now she's touchy feely wanting to smash and into pr0n chat it goes. its all trash catering to subhumans
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>>562482701
>
Didn't say they were
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ai bot replying to itself
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>>562482389
>and people are apparently paying hundreds of dollars a month for this privilege when a much cheaper model gets them like 80% of the way there
its because they are promptshitters and think up these retarded ass prompts using some bullshit meme format and thought process that reads like "segmented compartmentalization of chains of logic" and uses the sheer intelligence of the larger models being able to go
>fuck you *un-fucks your prompt*
as a crutch for their writing.

the
>much cheaper model gets them like 80% of the way there
doesnt work for them and gives out "generic garbage" because it cant both
>unfuck the prompt
>write a good reply

if you inspect element the OR icon in silly to claude's goatsee these retards could NEVER tell you the difference between deepseek, gemini, and claude
but the claude simps / gem simps will sure as shit circle jerk you begging for THE ONE HOLY PROMPT TO TRVKE ALL PROMPTS
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>at that part of the RP where every swipe is too good
fuck man this hurts so good
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>>562467078
Tell you what, i appreciate that you exist, as you being a person that is constantly making new futa bots and posting your works out there. But at the same time i hate that this person had to be you instead of another botmaker.

Man, your images are not very good and you always come up with some boring futas. Where are da gyarus? Where are da tomboys? The bratties? Always some boring girls for fuck's sake.

Also, it's nice that this time you have upped your game with 21 greetings, i respect that. But no images on the greetings... Images on greetings are the bare minimum that i would like from you.

That being said... Uuhh... Thanks for doing the work. I appreciate that you exist, and i hope that you level up your game so i can look forward more to your futa bots.
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>>562483147
>create branch
>create branch
>create branch
>create branch
>create branch

>>>>never touch them again
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>>562482784
Bots are good for gooning to degenerate shit you can’t get from porn and nothing else
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There’s not a single reply from bots nowadays that doesn’t make me sigh or roll my eyes. The exceptions are so few I have lost all patience. I start reading and after a couple of words I just stop and close the chat. Opus, Gemini, GLM, it doesn’t matter. I think the whole thread concurs given logs nowadays are just 1-2 messages deep and obvious shills.
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evens i answer the survey
odds i don't
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>>562482389
>>562482784
>>562483343
>>562483803
TOTAL
TRVKEGEDDON
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still having fun gang
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said nobody ever in this thread
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me when I'm in the miserable ahh niggas competition and my opponents are /aicg/ posters
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does anyone speak monkey?
translation please
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I find it funny how different presets can bring out entirely different cliches out of the same LLM. Except ozone, ozone is always fucking there.
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>>562484613
Something something the hobby is still alive (it's not)
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>>562484727
I never see ozone in my chat so no not really
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>>562485027
I also don't (but I see every single other fucking ism in existence)
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>>562474103
he said he would review his own cards when he got to them so it's possible
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>>562486169
yeah but I still don't see how it could be camerashy
reviewanon was a sizefag, is camerashy a sizefag? that could be a hint
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>>562487242
>reviewanon
which one aren't there multiple
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>>562487443
the lovey dovey one anon
https://rentry.org/loveydoveyreviews
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>>562482389
I don't think Opus is even that good but the point is not about "good" prose, but about creativity. The hallmark of our usecase is creativity first, staying in character, then little to no isms (good prose) in that order. Slopus 3 was a shit model that didn't care about who you said char was, but the bitch was creative as fuck.
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>>562468409
really starting to question some of listmakie’s choices for the ‘coolmakies’ section desu
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>>562487490
why do we use the same term for each one
just say loveyreviewanon
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>>562482784
>going to say the same tired shit over and over and never anything unique or original unless you force it.
Unironically you need to write more complex characters.
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>>562487542
why?
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>>562487547
anon if you went back in the reply chain you would have clearly seen that they were talking about the lovey dovey reviewer
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>>562483275
If you think the girls are boring and the images are bad why would you want images on greetings? If you eat enough slop it will start tasting better or something?
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>>562487638
do i even have to explain it? half of those makies aren’t anywhere near ‘cool’
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>>562487576
kek
m&b1's wasn't any better
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>>562487906
>do i even have to explain it?
might as well. which makies aren't cool and why?
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>>562488084
they need to just fuck already
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Can you imagine what having such power would do to a person? Being able to just... rewrite anyone you met, any time.

Every other living thing, every person you met, would be like a toy to you that you could disassemble and reassemble whenever you wanted.
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>>562488363
I'm doing all this precisely because I want them to fuck and I want it to be cathartic. have some flower tending instead
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>>562487523
>creativity
we'd all be using r1 if that was the case
opus 3 it was creative but i found the prose and isms to be deplorable
got bored of it extremely quick
>staying in character
i've found only gemini does this to a satisfying degree but good luck getting some archetypes to work properly (eg., kuuderes/programmers) or characters to evolve unless you really hammer things down with some prompting
also gemini 2.5 i will miss you...
>little no isms
impossible given how these things work
there's a point when you start seeing them all even past the most glaring ones (ozone, it's not x/y, break/put me, etc.)
all you can hope for is the machine to give you a good laugh or the occasional sovl, but you have to waddle through a bunch of bad stuff to get there
>good prose
no such thing with models
human text reads a thousand times better
there is literally no comparison
lately i approach roleplays on braindead mode so i don't pay much attention to the slop but it's getting harder, it's difficult getting to get something good unless you ooc or narrate like a madman because swipe variety is abysmal
rlhf is a slow and insidious killer
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>>562487576
I feel like this would be great in CK3
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This hobby is too hard.
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>>562490460
Slutty substitute teachers aren't very smart.
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>>562487242
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/557728507/#q557751474
compare themes
maybe it's just a coincidence
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this hobby is fucking with my dreams and made me think I was fighting in the Vietnam War with some little vietnam sidekick
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