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failed game director edition

>Guide
https://www.bungie.net/en/Guide/Destiny2
>Year of Prophecy
https://www.destinythegame.com/en/YearOfProphecy
>Destiny Rising
https://www.playdestinyrising.com/

>News
TWID (3/26): https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/twid-03-26-2026
Update 9.5.6.1: https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/destiny_update_9_5_6_1

>Resources
DIM: https://app.destinyitemmanager.com/
Armor Picker: https://d2armorpicker.com/
API: https://www.light.gg/
Stats: https://destinytracker.com/
Braytech: https://braytech.org/
PressKits: https://press.bungie.com/Destiny-2
Checkpoint Bots: https://d2checkpoint.com/
Popularity Report: https://popularity.report/

>TTK, Buffs/Debuffs, DPS, etc...
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WaxvbLx7UoSZaBqdFr1u32F2uWVLo-CJunJB4nlGUE4/

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>me with my Truth
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>raping fags and foids by not playing Marathon
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Keep that bucket hat on, unc
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https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/3321460/view/528750051218949247?l=english
IT'S UP
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>Last of us Factions was reportedly 80% done before they pulled the plug
Goddamn. Wonder if it would have done better than Marathon though.
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Projected max concurrent player count for all platforms.
Marathon: 51962
Destiny 2: 46843
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>>562469991
It definitely would have, normies love TLoU now. The Bungie jew convinced Sony to cancel it.
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>>562470096
>Game that came out out less than a month ago versus a game that's been on life support for well over a year
I get that Bungie doesn't want to work on Destiny anymore, but it prints money and you retards were luck to catch lightning in a bottle more than once. You shouldn't have pushed it.
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>>562469464
Most recent TWID (4/2) https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/twid-04-02-2026
never baked before, sorry.
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>>562470395
Don't worry, there's nothing in it so it doesn't matter.
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Reminder that Christ won
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>>562470395
>never baked before, sorry.
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>>562470503
Based
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>>562470503
BASED, bungo pushing kaballah and talmud slop is why they're being punished so harshly, their kosher hubris has consumed them in full!
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at this point destiny gotta have more players than marathon right?
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>>562471056
Definitely, Sony is noticing.
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>>562471056
Which is why bungo is deleting the portal and scrambling to make into the light 2.0
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>>562470096
i will live long enough to see marathon get gaped by destiny.
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>Sony could have paid me $1M to tell them that Marathon would bomb and to have Bungie focus on Destiny
They really shouldn't have bought Bungie
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>>562471001
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>>562470395
Thats ok anon
*rapes you*
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So uh
Did we ever get that roadmap...?
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>>562472036
dmg here. that will be closer to june. team is jammin.
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>>562472036
the team is jammin' stop fucking harassing me you fucking chud
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>>562472036
Roadmaps take at least a year, please ignore all other companies that make video games that can make them in an afternoon.
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>>562472036
They already confirmed destiny is going EOS so this is the authoritative Bungie roadmap for 2026
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>>562472201
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>>562472201
Are roadmaps for other games usually this pathetic
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>>562472275
No, even failing games get actual content
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roadmap just dropped
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>>562472514
LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE
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>>562472514
The best year for Destiny 2 and still was barely anything, in the grand scheme of things.
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>The Awoken Queen believes she can forestall the end that is coming. She's a stupid child. A fool. Let us mock her here.
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>>562472714
calus is still the realest nigga in the series, I love how he just vagueposted about everything
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>>562472714
>Let us mock her here
And then the nuwriters raped calus and yaas queenified every foid
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>>562472714
Take me back.
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>>562472714
>>The Awoken Queen believes she can forestall the end that is coming. She's a stupid child. A fool. Let us mock her here.
*boisterous laughter*
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Lmfao
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>jannys aware of the rape bit
Bungie will be raped and you can't stop it
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>>562472945
they ruined him in lightfall by putting him in a gimp suit for whatever reason
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>>562472714
>The Awoken Queen is dumb lol
>they proceed to make her a mega important super hero
>turn calus into mustache twirling villain and erase all of his previous intrigue and ability to avoid death
>his daughter enters the scene and instantly becomes a trusted ally after we just sort of ignored Calus' existence
>manifest lore into existence that he killed his daughters heckin' doggo right before he's killed off in a makeshift boss fight
>spit on his grave
methinks someone at bungo is a Queen Simp and hated whoever was writing Chudlus.
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WAHAHAHAHAHA! RAPE BUNGIE!
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>>562470395
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>>562473369
They didn't like that Cool Uncle Calus would just invite us onto his ship occasionally to fuck around and give us loot.
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>>562473585
>Arrives and starts eating the vex planetoid (doing the vanguard's job)
>Invites the guardians to a fun gameshow
>Let's them dick around all over his ship, gives them a (baller) crucible map to boot
>Helps the city by curbing a Red Legion resurgence
>Gives us proto crafting and beloved classic gear
>Writes fanfics about us, making The Guardian™ mega based
They called him the most based man in gaming
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>>562470275
There was some logic in wanting to move on from Destiny, or at least an understandable reason to work on other projects so they weren't 100% dependent on one game financially. Lightfall had 45% less players spending money on it compared to the year of WQ, granted most of that could have just been attributed to it being Lightfall. Not to mention that Sony charged Bungie with a $203 million impairment loss for how poorly D2 did last year, likely due to a mix of EoF's awful launch overhauls scaring away long term players and casual fans instead choosing to wait for a true D3 after beating TFS's campaign on June 2024. So the reasons were there, its just that Bungie went full retard with everything.
>Begin preproduction on just one incubation project? Nah, lets decide to work on THREE incubation projects at once!
>Lay out the groundwork for Destiny 3? Fuck that, lets put all of our effort into working on a spinoff (Payback)! Oh it got cancelled? Whoops, guess there's nothing we can repurpose for future Destiny content!
>Work on just one live service project? How about we have our 1000+ employees begin preproduction on two other live service projects (Marathon and Gummy Bears)? Surely we won't be cannibalizing our own audience and spreading our workforce too thin!
>Okay, this is our last chance to prove to our parent company that we that we deserve our independence. What can we do to make sure that we hit as wide of an audience and make as much money as possible? How about we have our new game even be more of a sweatfest compared to Trials of Osiris (possibly one of our least played activities in D2 currently)? Absolutely NOTHING could go wrong with this approach!
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>>562473541
What the fuck do you think you're doing bitch
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We need to build momentum and maintain it.

Let’s fucking do this thing.
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>>562473541
>>562475312
>>562475540
Rape victims
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>>562475616
you're a monkey
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Hopesissy status?
Marasissy status?
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>>562476089
>>562475963
Gaped n' Raped
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>>562474471
>Nah, lets decide to work on THREE incubation projects at once!
Bungie definitely wanted to become the next huge Blizzard/Riot sort of studio where they have multiple genre-defining live service games all running at the same time raking in billions. Doubtless when they were expanding the studio a few years ago they were all jerking each other off about how cool their Blizzcon equivalent was going to be. They fucked up bigly. Total Bungie Death is imminent.
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>>562476262
why are you like this
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>>562476890
I'm a booty warrior molded in the fields of RAPE.
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>>562475312
Posting cute nyagga
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>>562477683
yeah but... thats me and anons thing.. and thats the image i always use..
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I just want bungie to die
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>>562477939
Soon
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>https://x.com/ArcRaiderAlerts/status/2040094819796808161
How long will the denial last? Surely they can't keep this up all until summer
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>>562474471
>There was some logic in wanting to move on from Destiny, or at least an understandable reason to work on other projects so they weren't 100% dependent on one game financially.
For sure but the fact that Bungie made, Halo, made it big. And then made Destiny, and was able to expand and then thought they could do it a third time was fucking crazy, especially after how fucked Destiny ended up being with D2. Sure, Destiny wasn't as big as Halo culturally but they made a fuck ton of money with it and had something so successful that most other companies couldn't even dream of doing something on that level. The arrogance of Bunige, to think they could do it a third time, after ignoring all criticism and firing all of their talent that got them to where they are now is what fucked them. Look at Blizzard, like it or not, WoW was their cash cow and they never gave up on it. I personally don't like it anymore, but they always supported it while working on other shit like Diablo sequels and new IP like Overwatch. If Blizzard dropped everything to focus on Overwatch 2, they would have fucking died. But this is what Bungie did, they have no lifeline anymore, they're stuck with two dead live service games and have to answer to Sony very soon.
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>>562479054
>all the cope in the replies
LMFAOOO, they deserve the game dying holy shit. We're this far into Bungie being retarded and people still wanna bury their heads in the sand. Fucking wild
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>Bungie cooks with chuds (Halo)
>Instant success
>Bungie cooks with chuds again (Destiny)
>Instant success
>Bungie "cooks" with troons and faggots (Marathon)
>Dies
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>>562479571
OH MY DARLING FAUCI, MAY HE BE UNBLESSED BY SCI-SAINT FLOYDARIUS, THAT IMAGE YOU POSTED IS PURE ARTISTIC BEAUTY! IT MAKES ME WANNA LONG HAUL AND HAVE A BLAST!
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>>562474249
at least his body double in lightfall recognized me as his shadow
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rape bungie….RAPE BUNGIE RAPE BUNGIE RAPE BUNGIE RAPE BUNGIE RAPE BUNGIE RAPE BUNGIE RAPE BUNGIE RAPE BUNGIE RAPE BUNGIE RAPE BUNGIE!
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>33k on a friday night
lol
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Destiny 2 died when bungie started sucking dick
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>>562480334
Listen nigger, they'd love to play the game and have a BLAST, but they need to shill and seethe on xitter, leddit and 4channel
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>>562480334
Wait it has less than yesterday?
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>>562480489
It peaked just below
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>>562480489
They're at church, chud.
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Ikora Rey is one of the lowest rated Fortnite skins. Why are Fortnite players such chuds? Why don't they want to play as a powerful bald black woman?
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>>562480626
only satanists would play a bungie game in the year of our Lord 2026
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>>562480787
Aren't all of the other lowest-rated skins disgusting blacks?
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>>562480942
Yes. It's hilarious.
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>>562480787
>we get popular skins as armor
>they get two foids and a blue
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>>562477918
You snooze you lose!
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>>562479117
>they're stuck with two dead live service games and have to answer to Sony very soon.
i would love to sit in on the meetings between sony and bungo. the bungo execs have to explain these failures to them at some point and figure out how fucked they are.
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>get in there and rape bungie
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I do genuinely feel bad for the people who fell for marathon and will now suffer the same fate as us but at the same time it was also their choice to fall for the scam so
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>>562485503
i dont
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>>562482801
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>>562480787
Can always be worse
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>>562485503
most of the people that bought it are troons, destiny dads, and the BDF. they deserve no sympathy.
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>>562488496
S-still not playing your mobile game, ramesh!!!
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official ada 1 vibrating fleshlight just dropped on the bungie store fellas
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>>562488496
bro what the fuck is that hair
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>>562494102
wake me when Lakshmi-2's is.
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>>562494102
don't you touch her...
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>>562494614
Zesty
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Rape.
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>>562498105
>ape
curious...
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>>562498105
>>562498850
Fuck off retard
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>>562498850
You called?
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I am Edging my Fate today... am I in for a good time bros?
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>>562503027
No.
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>>562503027
Yes!
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>chinks can get this shit to run on my 7 year old iphone but Bungie can’t even keep it in the game for longer than 4 months on a ps5 pro
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>>562499791
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8xoV-v1Yl0
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>>562503027
>the dlc that ruined it all again
No
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>>562504027
>its only the Leviathan entrance everything else is new areas but mostly just reusing Levi assets
>Top and bottom areas are seperate zones and you cannot climb up like in D2 you need a man cannon to launch you up to the top and hit a loading trigger
>no Leviathan raid from D2
Its just being reused because the chinksloppa devs don't want to make new assets.
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>>562505910
ITS MORE THAN BUNGIE IS CAPABLE OF
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>>562494614
"the fresh prince of Bel-Air"
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>>562507607
lmoa
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>>562506719
Its literally what Bungie have been doing for the past 10 years lmao.
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>>562508637
retard
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>>562508637
>haunted gave us the Leviathan but covered in purple moss and patrol beacons while asking us 12 dollars for it
>chinks give us new Leviathan areas, 2 strikes, 1 raid encounter and full story missions for free
it's literally more
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>>562508637
So why isn't it back in the game nigga? If the chinks can do it what's stopping bungoid?
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>>562508637
Poor bait
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>>562509416
Nothing is stopping them, they put it back in Haunted and then they removed it because Bungie is retarded. But it doesn't detract that this is what Bungie has been doing for the last 10 years of reduce, reuse, recycle.
>>562509384
Anon you know this already they cannot overdeliver! There is also one glaring issue with Rising is the lack of actual loot or activity specific loot, not even raids have exclusive loot iirc.
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So is Lodi the writer woman's fanfic
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>>562510668
Lodi is Luke Smith
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>>562510668
Lodis a fucking basedboi. Not strictly what normal people would call but hes the ideal that they see in thier heads and think thats what they look like.
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>>562472514
If they didn't make Destiny gay with all the purple shit, maybe I'd be playing it
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>>562510668
since all she does is write glowie stories, yeah. Weird fetish, but what can you do.
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>>562510605
>not even raids have exclusive loot
they do actually
the Crota rerelease has its regular weapons and symmetry instead of Necrochasm for some reason and so does the Monolith raid with an exotic lmg
they also have exclusive exotic ghost shells and shaders as weekly random drops from the final encounter
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Everything was just better in d1 even the fucking raid ghost shells
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>>562513181
Yeah I vaguely remember Crota guns being put in but didn't know if they were exclusive or not. The majority of the loot in the game is still in a similar spot to Destiny's portal system with it all being homogenized though. I've been playing it a bit recently mostly just playing through the story content they added, and the removal of the energy system while nice hasn't really grabbed my interest that much. I thought when they announced the new character shard thing you'd be able to just grind to unlock characters but they are weekly gated and most of them drop random character shards. If I got Jaren right now I'd probably be playing more but meh I'm already beginning to lose interest desu.
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>>562513708
Cropta guns can be looted in the raid or unlocked from engrams you craft after collecting them
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I've got the itch but don't want to reinstall because I'll just get bored and frustrated again and my friends will make fun of me
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>Week 1 Friday peak 78.5k at 21:00
>Week 2 Friday peak 59.3k at 21:00
>Week 3 Friday peak 56.7k at 21:00
>Week 4 Friday peak 43.7k at 21:00
>Week 5 Friday peak 36.2k at 21:00
Stable playerbase status?
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Turns out Halo: AI Slop Evolved is going to be an even bigger fuck up than predicted
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/1sbr9b3/marathon_has_been_out_almost_a_month_what_are/
They are so desperate to shill this slop lmfao
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>>562515930
>Catastrophic mismanagement of Halo Campaign Evolved
Oh fuck, they are going to make some absolutely retarded changes in the game aren't they? The souless "art style" wasn't enough?
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>>562515694
>>562515930
>>562516067
FUCK OFF
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>>562516349
Silence Marathroon
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>>562516349
I'm going to rape you Marasissy.
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>>562516349
Here, this might be more to your liking
https://www.reddit.com/r/LowSodiumDestiny/
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>>562515930
who cares about halo in the large 2024+2
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>>562513521
home...
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>>562516663
Same could be said about destiny and yet here you are in this thread
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>>562515930
well well well
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>>562516224
I remember some people commenting that on the trailer, there was some stuff that was completely different from actual halo 1, because its in the UE5 engine
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So will Aztecope play Maraflop or Chinkstiny Rising's new raid?
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>>562516754
destiny isnt an unc game
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>>562515930
So 343 did have some old Bungie guards back on board? Sounds like the studio and MS are just fucked to the core.
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is this true?
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I said that I was a rape victim on /b/ and people said I can come here for support. But this looks like a forum for talking about Marathon?
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Are Bungie the biggest fuck ups in the industry? The fact that they're technically made Concord is so funny
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>>562518537
nyo
the downfall will continue
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>>562518590
bend over
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>>562518537
As of now Marathon is struggling to hit even 40k so yeah. It’s because even though you have tons of people going “Marathon is a good game”, even people like Paul Tassi are having to tap out because it’s too demanding with seasonal vault/progress resets and not at all meant for “gamer dads” compared to a single player game, or even Destiny 2. Another problem too is that once people had their fill with CA and are fully kitted out, the “end game” is to just shit on noobs on maps like Perimeter or Dire Marsh that are trying to gain loot or complete faction contracts. This causes those with less free time to leave and contributes to its downward spiral.
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>>562518537
Watch after the weekend there will be another big drop off. It has happened every previous week so far. Though they are running down the numbers to the most sunk cost idiots that are left so the drops will probably start getting smaller.
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Patrick won
Tahnit lost
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>>562519876
SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT MARATHON YOU CHUD!
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>>562518453
MS is and has been turbo retarded every since the great awokening
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please Tyson Green, it's quite obvious you don't have what it takes to be a game director.
staying in the shadows and just doing work was good for your regular role, but being scared of talking directly to your community is the exact opposite of what a GD has to be like.
freaking Ziegler is doing a better job despite having the pressure of ensuring the game can survive.

it's time to put you out to pasture Green, we need someone who can work with the community, not against.
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Technical Lead for Beyond Light talked about how the engine porting was a nightmare
>"I was then given the task of managing the hiring of twenty Associate Technical Designers into project-based contract roles."
>"With the team assembled, I was one of four leads that oversaw the entire effort for over a year of production."
>"I spent several months embedded on a tools team to test the new engine and the new workflows, and give them direction and feedback. During this time I wrote an enormous amount of “crossboarding” documentation to train existing Destiny 2 developers how to use the new engine."
>"I also wrote two weeks of onboarding tutorials and exercises to train any new activity design hires. These onboarding materials were still in use at the time I left Bungie, 5 years later."
Putting 20 CONTRACTED employees to port over content that players already paid for when Bungie at this point was a 900~ employee studio. Putting 1 guy on a majority of your training material for the engine.
Bungie are fucking retarded.
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>>562522023
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>>562521387
>STOP TALKING ABOUT IT
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>>562522023
one guy on documentation actually makes sense tho? shit is a nightmare to write by committee
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>>562522119
One guy on 60% of the entire engine documentation when Bungie consistently fails at using the new engine and constantly breaks shit in it?
Either the training failed because the devs fucking failed or the material was shit
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why are we talking about maraslop and ha(i)lo in the destiny general?
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>>562518453
The studio is just another branch of Microsoft, not even Xbox, just Microsoft.
Of course they'd be corrupt to the core.
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Kek did Bungie stop paying the /v/ jannies? The marathon doom thread is almost at bump limit
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>>562522023
we need to kill this nigga he needs to die
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>>562523641
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/66be8006ce2e682d37b18ff2/t/69c44c781ba5501f5e0cb8a0/1774472332189/MaxNichols_resume.pdf
here's his resume
>designed and built the "Infinite Forest"
>Overhauled our modifier system for replayable end-game
missions
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>>562523992
he also made curse of osiris? i hate him more now
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>>562522023
The worst part is that by this point, Bungie wasn't even that far along with their incubation projects to where they could not even spare manpower or resources. They could have easily had plenty of people work on porting over D2 content to where the game was feature complete and the new "engine" or lighting overhaul or whatever would truly be invisible to most players.
Or better yet, why just not make Beyond Light/New Light its own standalone application while the D2 build up to Season of Arrivals was preserved as its own application titled "Destiny 2: Legacy"? I am not a programmer or game developer by any means but it sounds like something went wrong when a simple lighting overhaul made it to where you have to manually port over old content again.
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>>562524309
>the entire studio needs to be trained on how to use the new engine
>"yea lets assign 35 guys (15 in-house, mostly leads and meeting-attenders) to porting old content into the game"
>incubation projects take years to make anyway and like 3 of them are canceled
>pretty much every expansion post beyond light has been delayed anyway
why didnt they delay beyond light and spend more time on porting the shit over
beyond light was already short on content as well so what the fuck were they doing
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>>562516224
i stopped watching the trailer after they got to the part where you're supposed to leave your warthog behind and face two hunters in a bottleneck situation, because they removed the large rock that specifically is placed there to prevent you from entering with a warthog. 343 literally do not understand even the most basic level design.
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>>562524801
This also took place during the height of the pandemic where COVID lockdowns were at their worst. And considering how delay happy Bungie has become with Destiny 2 ever since WQ, I think people would have been very understanding about BL being delayed in 2020 in order to make sure it's not a bad launch.
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>>562481181
I'm still mad they did elsie instead of cayde
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>>562522291
who are you gonna trust? the guy who'd been there since the good days or the gay junior devs?
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>>562524865
i am now unreasonably angry
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>>562522076
>m
You little nigger, but i needed to see that so I could finally remember the date and fix the image
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>>562528025
i always thought the traveler shard was a particular good example of the decline too, i remember loading in after the update at the farm and thinking wtf
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>>562528025
I remember the lighting in the character screen being completely fucked for the light subclasses after final slop. Did they ever fix that
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>>562528262
I've yet to update this one again, don't think it needs one.
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>>562528464
On one hand D2's lighting definitely looks better there, but its clear that the older environments were not designed around it at all.
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>>562522461
>why are we talking about democrats and third party voters in the republican general?
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>>562528991
exactly
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They never learn huh
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>>562528685
it really doesn't
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>>562529529
it's been over
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>>562529529
Cant wait for the second coming of the Halo TV series. Also how did Mass Effect manage to get a multimedia project before Destiny, outside of the Trilogy re-release in 2020 the franchise has basically been put on ice. And the last game before that was Andromeda in 2017.
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>>562529821
I believe it's because EA has decided it's time to stop losing money and a ME adaptation is lightning in a bottle, and if there's one project I'm not worried about failing, it's that.
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>>562529529
For fuck sake, this is going to be another Paramount Halo situation isn't it?
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>>562529529
>Halo, steers away from games: Flopped
>Fallout, leans hard into the games: Succeeds
>Hmm let's copy Halo's approach
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>>562529791
It must be soul killing to be an actual creative and see your dream job get destroyed by suits who make shit based on checklists to maximize money
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>>562529529
is Amazon stupid?
they literally had a tv show adaptation of a game, Fallout, do record numbers and attracted tons of people, and a lot of it still felt very close to the game material.
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=MTIRVjuHbus&pp=ygUJYXp0ZWNyb3Nz
It's up
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>>562532102
My guess is that they have different departments doing each their own thing and trying to be the one to attract the most attention, I also believe Fallout was a fluke, just look at all the other adaptations
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>>562532250
the answer the titles question, they got fed up with companies fucking with their bread and circus
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>>562532250
>it's the gamers' fault that gamers aren't interested in a self-cannibalizing genre that involves chasing a brief high amidst a sea of frustration
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If you're not playing Destiny or Marathroon what are you faggots actually playing
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>>562532370
yeah, i do agree that Fallout had a different feeling to it when it came to its production.
maybe to do with Todd being active in its development?
idk, but from where its headed, Mass Effect will end up just like the Halo series.
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>>562532626
runescape, monster hunter and borderlands
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>>562532626
Borderlands 4, RE4
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>>562532250
>>562532569
didn't watch
but if its this, its so fucking annoying
its like the AI shit all over again
>you're a bad person for using AI and destroying the planet
>"ok so maybe companies should put these AI models out to use if theyre destroying the planet"
>NOOOOOO WE NEEED YOU TO SPECIFICALLY BOYCOTT IT
>ALL 5 BILLION PEOPLE THAT HAVE ACCESS TO THE SERVICE
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>>562532626
I was playing Martonteen since release, but since last thursday i've been playing Death Stranding 2.
idk what it is but i'm addicted to it, i love all the systems and how all the upgrades and stuff are all taken care for me or i can just use the auto-upgrade features, all i have to care about is delivering packages and traversing the land.
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>>562532626
Division 2, Death Stranding 2, Warframe
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Star Force Legacy Collection and the new free DLC for Tainted Grail
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>>562532626
Sexorcism and Witch of the Eclipse
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>>562532626
Warframe, monster hunter, studying, exercising
I've been enjoying life pretty much
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>>562532626
Tainted Grail, Division 2, and Destiny 2 sometimes.
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>>562532102
iirc Todd actually overlooked it and made sure they didn't go full retard, or I may be making this up and he wasn't so involved.
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>>562532626
I've been playing D2 (Division 2) religiously. It scratches all the itches I had with D2 (Destiny 2), loot and upgrade grindan, satisfying but not excessive difficulty, grandmaster like challenges that feel fun to overcome and the "patrol areas" actually have a purpose feel fun to play and explore. It even has an extraction mode for the Marathon fags and the PvP is generally fun to play.
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>>562532250
>skip around randomly
>"i love runescape"
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>>562532626
>crimson desert
>sts2
>mewgenics
>mechabellum
>nioh 3
>code vein 2
>half of silksong
>replayed BB for its birthday
>replayed mirror's edge
>replayed transistor
>did another bg3 honor run since i did it before they buffed the difficulty
>grinded dos2 honor mode for a while
>replayed FFT for the ~20th time on the remaster

currently my high priority backlog is finishing CD, silksong, doom eternal, nightreign dlc which i never played, feel like i'm pretty done with mewgenics though i haven't technically beat the game
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>>562532250
This title sounds very jewish. They got him didn't they?
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>>562532626
I still play through the Destiny games from time to time and even tried at least 38 hours of Marathon, but right now I feel so burnt out on the Live Service bubble that I booted up PS3 era games like LittleBigPlanet 1 or Like a Dragon Ishin instead and I've been having fun
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>>562532626
Blood Refreshed Supply and RE3
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>>562518537
Calling any numver stable is literally that old as fuck saying about counting your chickens before they hatch and you can tell they tried to be a tiny bit cautious and called a lower number than current. Its notably dropped every week since launch after the weekend and given basic pattern recognition this would mean they are about to struggle hitting 30k come monday unless they are finally whittled down to a core of exceptionally suck-cost players.

I think the seasonal reset is going to be a disaster for them. Everyone hated sunsetting, but total progress reset is a whole new world of asspain that a vast overwhelming majority of Marashart players are not ready for even if they claim otherwise.
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https://youtu.be/9-07alF7BlQ?si=1YyXWZAoe32b1E4r
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>>562532626
Playing through all of Bungie Halo for the first time
I've finished ODST and now I'll start Reach
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Did we somehow materialize rape memes through sheer meme magic? I keep seeing anons talking about rape around the board, more than usual.
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>>562538438
they are great
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>>562538784
yes
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>>562538784
rape is in the news now because the noticing of statistics is occurring
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>>562538784
Calus and Escharum working together to rape companies ended up creating something no one could have predicted.
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>>562538784
It's just that there are more pajeets on the internet now and that is literally the only thing that their poo addled minds can think of
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>Hi Lightbearers,during early progression, we have been closely monitoring genuine feedback from high-level players regarding the difficulty of the boss's weak point mechanics in [Great Hunt - Gladsheim]. The development team takes your gameplay experience very seriously. We have concluded that the intensity of these mechanics exceeded our expectations, which negatively impacted the overall pacing of the challenge.
>At 4:10 (UTC+8), we will implement a targeted reduction to the boss's weak point HP in [Great Hunt - Gladsheim]. This adjustment aims to increase the margin for error without compromising the overall difficulty of the instance, allowing more players to experience the full content.
>Thank you for your dedicated testing and sincere suggestions. We will continue to deliver a more balanced and challenging experience.
Type of shit that would take Bungie half a season to address and one expansion to fix
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>>562541154
admitting you were wrong is forbidden at bungie
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>>562541154
Don't forget too that Rising being a gacha game at least rewards you with some in-game resources whenever shit goes wrong. Bungie would never.
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>4 warlocks
>2 hunters
Titangods lost...
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>>562541968
so is this just Last Wish but for phones? I haven't seen any gameplay of it yet
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>>562541968
titans are built for getting mating pressed by warlocks
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>>562534895
if division 2 had a good aesthetic i would play it but i frankly don't give a fuck about realistic/futuristic military, i crave fantasy
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>>562542023
I dislike linking streams but if you want to see, it's on Twitch
https://www.twitch.tv/es9dpw
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>>562541154
That would require Bungie to admit fault. Its not that they cant fix it faster, they judt dont want to. The exact same thing goes for "GACHA ADD LEVI WHY NO BUNGI" shit. They CAN do it. They choose not to. Most people at Bungie now are probably animals that want to leave their mark on the game amd not bring back other people's work too so you get dumb shit like EOF or bastardizations yass queening the awoken bitch or lightfall puking all over Calus. The chinks are just doing whatever they want fanfiction. Bungie is treating fanfiction seriously.
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honestly I think the reason why every single damage check boss is trashy is because they spent way too much time trying to build those bosses around the most meta damage loadouts.
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>>562541241
Not just bungie but literally any big western dev will refuse to admit they fucked up anything, indies still do but holy shit, just look at Randy with his eternal bullshit on twitter, Ubi with their AAAA excuse, etc
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>>562542540
Div 2 has more of a post apocalyptic aesthetic, feels a lot like fallout in that regard. Not many futuristic guns either it's all just stuff that exists currently and even some classic guns.
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Why did Destiny 2 always have inconsistent amour designs? They drop some good sets everything now and then but man when they drop a stinker It's a stinker.
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>>562546626
1. because most of the original armor design people left near the release of d1
2. armor in d1 was realistic; there was an undersuit and each armor piece was designed around each body. they looked great but took a lot of time and effort to make. this had the side effect of making sure that every armor set was an appealing design since you could make less of them
3. focusing on microtransactions means you will eventually fall into generically themed / glowy / overdesigned garbage (this also targets the large chinese population who are culturally very interested in these sort of ostentatious status symbols)
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>>562532626
Total war and Thief fms.
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>>562532626
Destiny: Rising, Girls Frontline 1 and 2 (aka the gun waifu PTSD simulator), missed AAA slop from backlog (currently Hogwarts Legacy) and modded Diablo 1.
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Remember when you used to be able to get like 6k bright dust a week?
good times
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>>562546626
>>562546952
Destiny armor sets were all built on 6 total base sets. Titan male, titan female, hunter male, hunter female, warlock male, warlock female. Every single piece of armor in the game was just polygons slapped on top of the base sets. Armor could be made fast, and it all fit together with almost no clipping. D2 went away from this, and outsourced armor creation to different studios or designers who's only guidance was ot had to fit the skeletons doing emotes. They also got rid of the difference between the sexes of armor, only three sets had to be made, which then they stretch to fit body type 1 or 2.
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>>562551592
>armor could be made fast
it was the opposite tho.
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I dont think we will ever see a game in the future that sits to the same feels as destiny 1
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>>562551592
>They also got rid of the difference between the sexes of armor, only three sets had to be made, which then they stretch to fit body type 1 or 2.
The glaring, and retarded, way to see this in action is to look at male and female titan armor, the arms look completely warped
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>>562552618
Warlock is way worse. The textures are stretched for body type 2 chest and they didn't even bother trying to make it look intentional.
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>>562551592
>>562552618
I know I've said it before, but this is unironically one of the biggest reasons why I stopped playing. Every new set that would come out just looked fucking horrendous on all three of my characters with wonky ass proportions.
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>>562551797
Bungie outsourced all armor in D2 to four different studios. There are more ornaments/eververse sets in the game than there are sets you can get as loot. D2 reuses more sets than they create these days. D1 had no eververse sets, and no seasonal sets, so armor had to be fit into evergreen activities. Making the sets was easy, but tying them into activities as lore accurate earnable loot does take more effort. Destiny launched in 09/2014, RoI launched in 09/2016. Two years of content. D2 has been out for 10.
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>>562554281
this is interesting but a non sequitur
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>>562553895
I just use tried and true classics for all classes. I haven't incorporated new armor into my Destinyfashion since before lightfall. What irks me is doing an activity with my teammates being darth vader and a tranny schoolkid.
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>>562554364
Extrapolate the relevant information. In every two year period of D2's existence, Destiny has more available armor as loot. The only time it comes close is D2's first two years, where each destination had a set, activities each had a set and an earnable ornament, and two raid sets. Bungie and Activision were able to pump out more armor for D1, than they were able to pump out for D2 in the same time frame. Eververse sets were almost all made by other studios that didn't make armor for D1, so adding their work dishonestly mkes it seem like the D2 system was easier. But when comparing the work on D1 from the same studios who did the same work on D2, their output was less with the D2 armor system.
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Saw three people trying to open the vault of glass in D1 on my alt so i helped them and then they invited me for the run.
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>>562555707
uh, hello? based department? you're gonna want to hear this
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>>562555707
Good job, Anon.
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>>562555080
One correction, the guy responsible for most of the garbage armor in D2 also did the RoI ironlord armor/weapons as his first/only work on D1.
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>>562556057
Dima Goryainov
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>>562556580
Yup, some faggy tranny slav obsessed with incorporating fantasy and medieval elements into a sci-fi setting.
>i base my opinion on him solely off his works, and know nothing about him
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>>562558338
Sony is going to rape Bungie for this
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>>562558338
It finally managed to pull ahead of Hunt again?
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>>562558553
Its also because whenever its not American hours, Hunt Showdown rapes the everloving fuck of Marathon in European hours. And its not like Hunt was deliberately made to be this long running extraction shooter, it was an early access 'hail mary' from early PS4-era Crytek when the entire company was close to bankruptcy.
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>>562558587
Hunt isn't that popular at night in the US, usually peaks early morning.
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>>562559160
So Bungie's losing to Crytek of all companies because they needed to own the chuds in Eastern Europe.
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>Crimson Desert almost has better steam reviews than Marathon
I think it was at like 70% or so on launch day
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>>562559405
I still have no clue what the fuck Bungie thinks about their Slav fans, would they still agree with Sony when it comes to blocking the following chud countries?
>Belarus, Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Russia, Syria, and Vietnam
Or would they gladly welcome them back with open arms just so they can hopefully pump up the Steam chart numbers?
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>>562559569
It was at 54% on launch day
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>>562560824
Holy shit
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>>562555707
This is the real “we create worlds that inspire friendship”
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Hopesissies don't look
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>>562562426
you can get a pill for that, anon
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>>562562426
AAAIIIIIEEEEE
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>>562562426
NOOOOO
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There's no way it peaks less than 40k today and tomorrow, right?
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ITS UP!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xI5poBxV_-A
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>>562559569
Why did Crimson Desert succeed while marathon failed
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>>562563414
it hasnt been near 40k since last week dude its over
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i only have 17 strange coins on my fresh d1 account and no exotics
should i buy insurmountable skullfort for 13 or buy 10 three of coins and chance it out to try get a better exotic or two
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Erm.....hype?
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>>562564527
skullfort is fun
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>>562564527
three of coins
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>>562542540
obligatory shilling of PSO Blue Burst if want a tps game
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>>562566049
already played it until i was satisfied ages ago
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.....where is everyone
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>>562566049
Casts are cool
I feel kind of bad for never really getting terribly far into it but then again at the time I couldn't really sink into anything that required a net connection. And now I just don't have the bandwidth (mental/physical) for it after work.
getting old sucks.
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>very recent reviews
>86%
oh no hopesissies, the only talking point
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>>562532250
I miss the old Cross
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19VZFzRWdyk
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>>562568423
Grind the season XP cap for the week
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>>562568423
New GZW update
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remember when there were pinnacle weapons that were really good and worth grinding for like the recluse and mountaintop and it got pve only players to actually play crucible and helped keep it alive and then bungie randomly decided to make pinnacle weapons shit that no one would ever use so the playlists died and never recovered
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=SHyO4W76b6E&pp=ygUHc2tpbGx1cA%3D%3D
It's up!
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>>562570829
I refused to play Crucible for PVE weapons, I think that only worked on streamers.
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>>562570958
DELETE THIS, CHUD
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>>562570829
breakneck my beloved
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>>562570829
they were way too broken though
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>>562570829
The funniest part of this discussion is red minigame players say they kept it alive but the moment no one HAD to play red minigame, it became an unpopulated hellhole.
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>>562570991
Its either that or compfags, because IIRC there were tons of instances during Forsaken where this general was livid at having to grind a separate playlist just for a gun to use in the content they wanted.

>>562568423
Playing Destiny Rising and LittleBigPlanet.
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>>562571056
Fuck you in particular.
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>>562571056
>what's that, you only use one gun because you think it's fun?
>can't have that!
>neckbreaks it three fucking times
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>>562571174
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>>562571174
let's not forget mark noseworthy dumbing down all exotics for d2y1-2 because someone made fun of him for equipping doomfangs on striker
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and that retarded lady who banned voice comms because she got bullied as a kid
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>>562571263
Mark (((Noseworthy)))
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>>562571174
>>562571221
Seriously what the fuck was his problem? He was so upset that one of his friends still had fun using that gun (and maybe Loaded Question too) so he literally said in a vidoc
>Well, what if I took that gun from him?
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Rape... the idea of rape sickens me... the feeling of having sex against someone's will is utterly disgusting... but once you understand what its like to be raped you finally start to see why rape should be a basic human right
Bungie has raped me and my eyes have been opened... now its my turn to open theirs and make them see the reality of their situation
Bungie will DROWN... in the RAPE
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>>562571415
Loaded Question with lunafaction... back when you could buildcraft without Bungies permission.
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>>562572526
No... you do not rape because you understand what its like to be raped... we all rape because someone has to.
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Projected max concurrent player count for all platforms.
Marathon: 51719
Destiny 2: 48009
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>>562573551
>Not even 100k combined players
What is Sony thinking right now
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is this real?
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>>562573613
They're sharpening their ninja swords for the impending execution.
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>>562573613
They're absolutely fuming over how Destiny 2 has almost the same amount of players despite going through a massive content drought.
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>>562573889
You think anyone here bought that shit?
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Whatever happened today?
Why did they lose the Thursday/Friday boost?
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>>562575326
Complete disaster
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>>562575326
gas prices most likely, once they settle down we'll see Marathon's steam numbers go back to 70k-80k like normal.
same for Destiny, we'll probably go back to 200k-300k once the gas prices go back up
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>>562575598
>up
*down
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>>562575326
They changed it so that Cryo opens on thursday instead of friday, so they get a small bump a day earlier than usual and the weekend fall-off even faster.
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>>562575326
>>562576210
Yeah it's following last weekends pattern, just lower. If they can't hit 30k on Mon-Wed it's legitimately fucking over.
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I bet they're regretting the decision to delay S&O by three whole fucking months now. I wonder if they'll delay it again or delay Marathon's next season instead. Surely they can't afford to launch both of those at the same time.
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>>562576584
If we get a second Shadow and Order delay I'd actually bust out laughing. It would be comical at that point.
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>>562576861
You know they would delay it to just to try giving Marashit an extra chance since Destiny has already been starving anyways and can wait a few more weeks.
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>>562575326
>Gas prices
>Easter
>Iran special military operation
>Greenland invasion
>goyland
>NA is asleep
>EU is at work
>China is censored
>It'll spike hard shortly
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>>562526049
Cayde Drifter and Shax would make the most sense to put into a slopnite collab
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>>562529529
>writers actually made it like the game
>told to rewrite it
I'd make it so obnoxiously dogshit if I were them out of spite and the best part is Amazon suits would eat it up
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everything in their code is still tied together isn't it. they can't change one thing without other things breaking, the cycle repeats.
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>>562529529
Nah, normies just have a completely different mindset when it comes to this its unironically annoying
>"yeah it sucks, there just havent been many good gaming adaptations"
>what about that assassins creed one? i didn't watch it did it do good?
>"no"
>but it had X actor in it? he's amazing, how did he do bad?
>"he acted well, but they didn't do the story right"
>that sucks the game has a bad story
>???
or
>"yeah Last of Us actually has been a pretty good adaptation of the games story"
>well its actually a good show so no wonder the game is good
>"no like the game came first, so the show is just a good adaptation of what was already made, its basically like a movie version of the game"
>yea but its a GOOD SHOW, even if it didn't come from a game, it would be good

I really don't get normalfags thinking on this, I guess maybe we just think differently because we're gamers and can appreciate how a games story can be, the good and the bad
To normalfags, media is just media, they have no opinion, unless some magazine tells them its really good or really bad, then they repeat that
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>>562581735
>I MUST GET A CRUCIBLE MAP ON THIS ISLAND
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>>562583150
Not only that, but the infinite funposting fuel of Drifter and Shaxx doing emotes
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>>562583247
When the guardian banks those motes:
>gif of drifter fortnite dancing
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there was a raid world first in rising and they nerfed a boss during the race. lol
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>>562585414
We know >>562541154
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we wuz race 5 n shiet
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>>562586807
glimmer
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw_xj0KicoE
SOVL
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D1 just has better tracks
https://youtu.be/70Ca_206kDA?si=wNl8U58MVrVOsBmX
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Oh that reminds me
After all of these fucking years WHY DID THEY NOT ADD THE TANIKS CLOAK BACK?
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>>562570958
Buy an ad.
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>>562587469
Overdelivery
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Rising bros, how gacha does it feel? I know we have a ZZZanon here, so there's some people familiar with modern gacha.
Can I just get a decent Destiny experience? I saw they suggest an official emulator and everything on their website. Most the designs I don't care for, but I do miss pew pewing and I'd like something I'm allowed to steam roll since that's illegal in D2 now.
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>>562532626
poe :)
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>>562588709
Buy an ad.
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>>562588709
Jesus christ how young is cross.
Did his balls drop during the time destiny 2 has been out?
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Buying boughted the crimson desert
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>>562589154
no ads on 4chasn premium, you smelly poorfag
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Escharum poster mindbroke marasissies so bad that one of them is attempting to rape post now LOL
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>>562589597
i think hes 31 now.
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>>562589624
>4chasn
ESL. Go get Hepatitis from whatever ox-drawn cart you buy your food out of, Harjeet.
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... so I've been stuck at 49% for like a half hour.
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>>562589829
probably have a required setting not selected
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>>562577241
It'd definitely be funny, but I don't see Sony giving Bungie the kiddie gloves anymore and saying something like
>Sure thing Bungie, we trust you guys :)
at this point its something like
>Fuck no you're not delaying it anymore. Drip feed the remaining content over time if you have to but D2 will get its DLC out by June or else you all can start looking for new jobs. We don't care if it overlaps Marathon's second season either, D2 had nearly the same playercounts just from fucking Guardian Games.
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We've been stuck at 41% for like 15 years.
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>>562588709
Kek, I could've sworn that had become a "slur" by that point too.
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>>562590068
>just plug and play, they say
I guess I'll try to figure out what mystery thing it's missing, google has not helped because apparently no one plays this game.
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Rape bungie
Rape twitoids
Rape content creators
Rape destiny community
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>>562588709
Fuck you for cursing my eyes with Y1 footage
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>>562588709
why isn't he like this nymore, sad!
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so what happens when bungie gets shut down later this year? will sony just permanently turn off the destiny 1 & 2 servers and that's it forever?
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>>562592561
>will sony just permanently turn off the destiny 1 & 2 servers and that's it forever?
lord may we be so lucky
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>>562592561
Maintenance mode for D2 akin to what D1 sees now, permanently rotating eververse.
D1 may legitimately die, so people should get to archiving some stolen assets asap.
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>>562592995
>D1 may legitimately die, so people should get to archiving some stolen assets asap
it would be very cool if we had destiny private servers like wow does...
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>>562587469
>we had 2 separate opportunities for Taniks cloak, first from his Nightmare boss, and another from DSC raid
>they fumbled
>countless opportunities as Eververse sloppa
Considering how greedy nuBungie is, it's still puzzling how averse they are for any D1 fanservice, that they even pass on chance to make some quick buck for zero effort.
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>>562587351
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfOzpqk64fA
Hive ASMR
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>>562587351
I will post a D2 track to counter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eioYulMp_5k
Why yes I love Pirates of the Caribbean.
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>>562596218
>titan and hunter always look hyper giga kino
>warlocks always looked stupid from day 1
why could bungie just not get this class right?
>ends up stealing titan identity to "fix" it.
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Leviathan bounty farm
Home
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Do you think datto has his bussy surgery done yet?
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>>562596820
who?
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>>562596858
Datto Nim is everyones big sister! ///>w<///
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>Not even 34k on a Saturday
lol. Will be at a 70% player drop minimum on Monday
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>>562597760
Did hopesissy run out of chainsaw man images to avatarfag or did they finally end it all?
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Haven’t played since heresy, is it worth picking up the recent expansions on sale?
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>>562597951
No they are glorified episodes and not very good. Edge of Fate was pure, reaching desperation trying to rip off elements of metroid prime, warframe and fucking halo 4 of all things hoping some shit would stick and Renegades is a straight up episode that bloats its """campaign""" by putting stuff like the exotic mission and seasonal activity as over half the """campaign""". Its just a season they called an expansion so they could charge more to offset costs for the rights from Disney.

Also its just really fucking mediocre in general. Most agree Destiny 2 ended with Heresy and the next updates almost surely age of triumph 2 to end the game. Dont buy it and wait for that update to desperately throw them in or offer deep deep discounts to try and get one last quarter of income from the game.
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>>562597951
No.
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>>562588298
The new player experience is completely different now since you are able to get all characters free by farming some new shards they added. The gacha is only if you're either too lazy or want to unlock the characters extra talents. I recommend their official emulator the only reason to play phone is if you want to abuse the auto aim (but it's not really that hard to aim without it).
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>>562597760
The old Aztecross vid posted earlier had me remember that it took them nearly 3 months to even address the abysmal state of D2 at launch, and then another 3 months to begin acting on it, and then another 6 months to completely turn things around with Forsaken. I really can't imagine they have that kinda time, leeway, or resources to do that with Marathon.
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>>562583047
They have the same attitude about book adaptations for some reason. Villeneuve's Dune raped the whole story of the first book sideways with random story arc changes or turning a white man into a black woman, but normies are ok with it because 'cool visuals' and 'deep references'. yeah, so subtle, HARKONNEN HARVESTERS LOOK LIKE GIANT TICKS BECAUSE THEY DRAIN SPICE FROM ARRAKIS LIKE BLOOD, SO DEEP! or HEY, GIEDI PRIME WAS ORBITING A STAR 10 TIMES DIMMER THAN OUR SUN? LET'S MAKE IT A LITERAL BLACK SUN THAT MAKES THE SKIN OF THE HARKONNEN PERFECTLY WHITE SO THAT EVERYONE KNOWS THEY ARE BAD GUYS, SO THOUGHT-PROVOKING! That's just disgusting and cheap.
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>>562600319
the first movie was passable but the second really suffered from cutting out literally every subplot. regardless it was worth seeing in IMAX just for the hour or so of majestic desert scenery
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>>562597760
>The Marasissies lost this war months ago. Your people are raped. Scattered. Hunted. Defeated. By me. I wish I could tell you it was difficult. But it wasn't. We are one step ahead! Always!
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>>562600148
Retards at reddit are praising them for disabling a broken gold mod that was giving its boosts to other weapons and for slashing the Cryo Archive goo gun damage by 35%, oh dear, Bungie are so quick to address the pain points! They don't know how much idiotically broken or bugged shit Bungie can leave because they can't or won't do a fix, like it happened with Destiny 2.

>>562600409
I know they are working on a sequel which is already stupid because the ending of Villeneuve's Dune doesn't really go to the beginning of the second book. In the book Paul 'married' princess Irulan on the condition that she would be less than a concubine for him, and his real wife end empress would be Chani. In the film this is not even brought up, Chani just seethes that Paul marries Irulan and storms away to ride a sandworm in the desert, which is absolute bullshit on all fronts.
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>>562600748
it's already evident from the way they wrote movie 2 that movie 3 is gonna be all about the which (witch) wife thing and the crusade and again every other subplot or side character will not exist
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SEVEN(7) STRAIGHT DAYS UNDER 40K

MASS HOPEKEK RAPE BEGINS IN 30 SECONDS
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>>562600416
Escharum-sama...
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Maraslop's peak is lower than the current player count of a 6+yo single player game. Grim.
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>>562602250
cyberpunk is actually a good game, that's the difference
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>>562602271
it isnt
but it is compared to flopathon
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>>562566726
Go play PSnova
>>562568473
Since you played vanilla a bit, you could try to download the server and double the droprates/xp gains and fuck around by yourself
There's also RTR which is a general overhaul of everything but the downside being it's GC only
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>>562604221
destroyer of threads
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Marathons player count is the same as D2 in its dead era. They literally would’ve made more money making another annual dlc.
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>We’re still the same Bungie! We still have FIVE employees from Reach!
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>>562606247
i feel like some of the reason is Sony wanting to keep the Marathon IP. Doesn't US have some "Use it or lose it" rule when it comes to IP? First time i heard about that was when Valve started shutting down fan mods/games. Not because they wanted to, but because they legally had to.
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>>562606392
Yes. You need to make works to keep things out of the public doman copyright wise. So you get bullshit like what happened with Wheel of Time (not the most recent one, the one before) - they made a random low budget dogshit adaptation, didn't advertise it, and played it on 1 channel in the middle of the night for a few weeks.
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>>562606515
>>562606392
Weren't Disney doing the same shit with modern CGI/live action remakes of their older works?
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>>562606613
It's a mix of that and cash grabs. Disney's absolute oldest works have started entering the public domain after they got the maximum timeframe extended from 75 years to 95 years back in 1998, but they're still fighting to keep control of the rest.
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>>562606392
it depends on what bungie filed it as really.
it could be 10 years or 70.
and even if it were the "use it or lose it" kind then they could have just done an officially branded crossover in destiny(they did already but they didnt specifically call it marathon)
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>>562606921
Then I'm wondering how Rockstar is still owning Oni if they don't do anything with that particular trademark, it was so bad that Bungie barely referenced it in a throwaway text line in the 30th Anniversary content.
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>>562606613
at least the happy birthday song is public domain now
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>>562607002
heres the ai slop answer for you
Rockstar Games (via parent company Take-Two Interactive) acquired the rights to Oni during Bungie's acquisition by Microsoft in 2000. While Bungie West developed the PC/Mac game, Take-Two—who held a 20% stake in Bungie at the time—retained the IP rights, with Rockstar later handling the PlayStation 2 port and publishing
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>>562606921
That marathon armor is so goddamn ugly
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>>562610402
some of the pieces are nice
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>>562610435
If you are trans yeah I can see that
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>>562602709
Cyberpunk 2077 redemption narrative that is being pushed hard since anime release is so fucking annoying. They basically had to abandon all their ginormous plans and drastically scale back everything.
Where is multiplayer? I didn't want it, but it's clear that they wanted way more from the game, and they just couldn't deliver.
Narrative was good to solid, but they completely fumbled all the lifepaths and prologue story. The branching quests with multiple approaches, various endings and stuff? Pretty much the only one that fits to these criteria would be the same quest they showed during pre-release showcases.
Car customization etc, it's all missing. City is pretty much a cardboard cutout where you barely interact with it, it lacks any depth, vendors are soulless, fucking Yakuza games mog Cyberpunk in that venue if you wanted the actual examples.

It's all so tiresome. Feels like I'm surrounded by insane people, that blatantly lie to my face. Mind you, game is GOOD, but it's just another monument to the greatness that was not to be.
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>cropta raid in rising has been sunset
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>>562610516
The game still has a fuckton of content which is more or less finished but unavailable in the game because of cuts.
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>>562610516
the base gameplay is very fun
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>>562610516
I remember they were touting it as a "Next generation RPG" even on their store page but then removed anything related to that and now its just an "action adventure" game lmao.
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dmg is cheating on his wife with her, this woman is the reason why the roadmap hasn't come out and S&O was delayed
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>>562611220
>>562610497
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>>562612002
what did he mean by this?
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>>562612002
is that his wife's kid?
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>siva can enhance and replicate anything
>it was even strong enough to enhance guardian light
What if aksis knew about the veil and he built his perfection complex inside the traveler? Would the witness even be able to eradicate siva light enhanced machines? Aksis would eradicate the last city and would either destroy or unite other houses. Little did we know how much of a problem siva turned to be. It was even proven that siva can bring the dead back to life but in a zombified state almost like the scorn. If aksis was given the travelers blessing and he knew how to use the light imagine what could've happen to the destiny universe. Siva is and will always be perfect
Meanwhile neomuna tech is inferior in every way possible
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>>562612778
Aksis was dumber than Taniks.
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>>562610516
I still don't get that
>yea cyberpunk 2.0 is amazing its like a no mans sky redemption
>check out the game
>looks exactly the same as before
>YEA BUT NOW THE BUGS ARE FIXED
>AND HAS BUNCH OF DLC TO BUY
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>>562612778
Aksis was a literal drug addict going crazy on his own supply, every single one of his liutenants was just doing dumb experiments that lead nowhere, Siva just drove them insane
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>>562613659
Stop misusing words
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>>562613716
Explain or shut the fuck up you chimp
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>>562610516
>>562611562
Schizo theory

It WAS going to be that big game-changing game, the thing that really stood out to me was them talking about dynamic crowds AND an article that is seemingly wiped from the internet about them receiving $10 million or more? as funding for the game
from the US military

which to me made me think
>they actually coded and had a working "crowd" system
>the military wanted this
>you cant have military information in the public
>they now have to gut that "crowd" system
>you get what you had on release where the "crowd system" was basically non-existant

Wouldnt not be surprised if other systems were gutted because the military funded this game and gets the rights to whatever they make and stop them from releasing it

But that kind of falls apart when the actual game and story were shit, nothing to do with the huge crowds they talked about ingame, no idea if it's good now with the 2.0 patch, but I've never heard someone going
>YOU HAVE TO PLAY THIS
its just
>THEY FIXED STUFF
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>>562613318
Yet without siva taniks wouldnt of lived
Fallen alone are inferior to guardians (unless you are comparing them to the average d2 guardian) but aksis was special. He was able to make use of siva to design and enhance flimsy fallen tech. Even the modern d2 fallen tech jobs to siva. Stasis gauntlet? Useless. It would be stronger with siva. CONSUME. ENHANCE. REPLICATE.
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>>562613881
>Yet without siva taniks wouldnt of lived
Did you forget he was fucking dead in Beyond Light?
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>>562613994
Anything after opulence is NUbungie tranny delusions
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>>562614076
Ah so you're the kind of faggot that refuses to acknowledge anything that goes against your delusions
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>>562613816
>It WAS going to be that big game-changing game
industry changing or landmark would have worked better here.
>dynamic crowds
sigh

also they made the vertical slice first with the crowd, then when they started making the actual game realised half the shit that was in that video was unachievable, so it was either scale back the game world to be way smaller or scrap most of those impressive features and quietly sweep it under the rug.
>>THEY FIXED STUFF
its a no mans sky thing.
if you didnt like it at launch you arent going to like it ever, because what you dont like cant be changed.
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>>562614210
Well of course it's the easiest way to win a argument afterall
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>>562604564
I'll keep it in mind, thanks
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>>562614210
Whoa... Just like bungie...
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>>562614268
>then when they started making the actual game realised half the shit that was in that video was unachievable
yea that's probably more likely, I was just so thrown off by that military funding during development, and I've never been able to find that article again
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>>562614536
is it possible you are schizophrenic?
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>>562615308
found the article asshole

https://www.gamepressure.com/newsroom/cyberpunk-2077-got-government-money-for-its-living-city/zd2a28
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The current state of marathon shills
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>>562616307
lmfao
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>>562615512
Don't most governments outside of the US give funding for projects made by people in their country?
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>>562615512
>not american government
>nothing to do with military
retard
>>562616692
yes its, that dustborn game was funded by the Norwegian government
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>>562616692
Yea reading through it sounds like the money just went nowhere, I guess I was coping that it was a good game at one point, I was a little invested during development and wanted it to be so good

Also $10 million isn't really a lot anyway when the game was like $175 million to make
>>562616809
yea I misremembered

its just a bad game :(
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>>562616938
>, I was a little invested during development
everyone was
millions of people ate up every video and dev interview
REMEMBER NIGHT CITY WIRE
GOOD LORD WHAT A FUCKING WASTE OF TIME THAT WAS
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>>562616307
>1 player
>*beep*
>3 players
>Marashill, in whispered awe: "...we are so fucking back lads"
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>>562616307
Marasissies are afraid of zooming out.
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>>562617158
>"...we are so fucking back lads"
>*beeeeeeeeeeeee...*
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>>562613716
he's right tho
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>>562616307
The funniest part of this is that it dropped peak players from Thursday, to Friday, to Saturday, despite it being a weekend
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>>562617335
i mean that's what you'd expect when cryo archive drops on thu now
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>>562617289
>t.
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>do you wanna be a tranny or do you want to send your daughter to college?
>bungie:
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Marathon is DEAD!
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What killed it?
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Is Cross the only broken buck propping up Marathon on twitch?
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>>562613494
They made only one big expansion DLC, and said that was all. They also reworked the game balance somewhat, no idea about bug fixing.
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>>562618756
At least they owned the Chuds
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i miss playing destiny
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>>562617147
>>562616938
>>562616692
Poland often gives government grants to support its game devs. This is why they make a fuckton of studios who shit out dozens of games (and big Polish publishers like PlayWay like to buy them all out), and some of them even manage to be decent. Cyberpunk was not an exception, they received an equivalent of 7 million USD from the Polish government entity to develop great AI which was absolutely retarded during Cyberpunk's initial release. There were some investigations from the Polish consumer protection organization as well.
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>>562620462
As the other anon said, most governments give grants to entertainment industries to foster them, I think bongland even has a law about that
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>>562617147
>>562616938
>>562616692
>>562620462
And I forgot another thing. Cyberpunk still was successful enough to warrant a sequel, and our old friend Robert Brookes - the one who is responsible for turning all seasonal stories and the Final Shape campaign into abandonment / trauma healing / daddy issues retardation slop - has been hired to write the Cyberpunk 2077 sequel.
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>>562570958
>"THAT'S FUCKING RETARDED!" –Cross addressing the S2 faction rally rewards
Aztechud used to be based?
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>>562572526
I rape because I WANT IT
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>>562620869
How do these people fail upwards?
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>>562621198
nepotism
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>>562621198
Because when he left Destiny and joined CDPR, destiny was still making a shitload of money and some retards were still saying the story was good, just look at anyone leaving today, they aren't getting hired anywhere
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>>562621198
the fact that these people keep falling upward should tell you all there is to know about why the industry is in such a shit spot.
the industry is just a revolving door of failures.
someone works on the biggest flop in a decade.
they get laid off, make a sad post on twitter to farm sympathy points, and 1 month later they've been hired by another company to start the cycle all over again
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>>562620869
tbf, his writing might actually make some sense in Cyberpunk's world since it's all sob stories about how the world is completely fucked up, along with degenerate gay relationships to really sell the setting. It just didn't fit D2 at all.
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>>562621595
There are game devs with concord and highguard both on their resumes and that is hilarious
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>>562621980
I'm just not sure I'm ready for yet another dose of whining made by a faggot who was abandoned by his own father because the faggot decided he liked dicks instead of pussies. Writing stories for an AAA game is not an outlet to heal his trauma and deal with his daddy issues.
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>>562596585
This reminded me of the countless hours spent farming cabal on calus' ship for catalysts/bounties
Rape is just_the_tip of the judgement that awaits bungie
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>>562622431
skyburner and polaris catalyst farming...
I kinda miss it, really. But I'm well aware that's 100% forgetting how obnoxious it was at the time talking.
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>>562596585
>that fucking ui
This is why there should be a pc port
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>>562620869
My cope is that he's not going to be the main narrative lead and that she's just one of many writers they hired to work on side quests.
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>>562624785
When using KB+M the UI is closer to D2.
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>>562623878
The Polaris catalyst was especially retarded because of the way how it was worded and how it actually worked. It was supposed to be 50 Perfect Fifth kills, but instead it counted only kills made by Perfect Fifth's burn effect, so before the catalyst was reworked, you had to find enemies who were tanky enough to withstand the blast and be almost dead so that burn damage finished them off.
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>>562624785
>>562625987
The update that began the current season in Rising reworked the mouse/keyboard UI to make it closer to D1/D2.
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>>562625987
I still hope that one day Rising gets a proper PC or console port, I'd love to know what the terms and conditions Netease agreed to with Bungie.
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>>562628112
no thanks, they sunset a raid after a few months
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>>562630693
>they sunset
They do sunsetting in rise?
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>>562624785
Just open your Dominos addon and start changing it, or plug a controller in and enjoy your 5000% Aim Assist
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Play Crimson Desert
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PLAY MARATHON SAR
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>>562633842
i cant im an intelGOD
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also Bungie would never
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You know what bungie would also never do? Learn from their mistakes
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>>562628112
A rising port makes too much sense.
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Today, I will remind them.
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>>562639848
Jesus
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>>562639848
And they wonder why people lash out against them
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Marathon lost, Bigly.
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>>562628112
Bungie is likely blocking it unconditionally because they don't want to split the market. Controller and KBM hotswapping working perfectly on an Android emulator isn't normal.
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Say it.
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Siva won
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>bungie tries to remove SIVA from the game
>SIVA kills bungie
Clovis... I kneel...
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>>562639848
and they wonder why people send them death threats
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Kevin yanes...
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>>562642529
>>562642802
When it's all said and done Destiny was bad longer than it was good.
Good
> The Taken King
> Rise of Iron
> Warmind
> Forsaken
Mid
> Destiny 1
> The Witch Queen
Bad
> The Dark Below
> Curse of Osiris
> Shadowkeep
> Lightfall
> The Final Shape
> The Edge of Fate
Crippled the Game Forever
> Beyond Light
> Renegades
It's fucking over
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>>562645423
alternative universe yanes is alright
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>Warmind
>good
Jesus fucking christ m8
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>>562650327
lol
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>>562650327
lel
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>>562649941
>Taken King
help from other studios
>Rise of Iron
help from other studios
>Forsaken
help from other studios

I'm convinced anyone can make a better destiny than bungie
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>Solo queue rushmore
>nothing dies
>500k+ damage
>have to do all the mechanics

and bungie wonder why people hate this game's social.
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>>562650671
Warmind was also High Moon Studios kino. Funny how that works. They cared more about the IP than Bungie ever did.
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>>562650904
it was? kek, bungie really are hacks
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lightfall really fucked the game up beyond repair huh
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>>562469872
You're planning to kill yourself before you survive to reach 25 and it happens to you. Tick tock.
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>>562651608
first shadowkeep then lightfall but yes
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>Tahnit Status: RAPED
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>>562652446
>you bore me
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>>562652294
Shadowkeep was the seasonal rape
Beyond Light was the content rape
Lightfall was the hype rape
The Final Slop was the final rape
Renegades is necrophilies
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>>562651608
I quit like a week after lightfall launch after getting bored trying to get a good copy of the... strand sniper I think? Then I got on at least once a week to do a single raid on one of my characters trying for the raid exotic. Then I got it and stopped playing. The seasonal content was trash and couldn't be more stupid if they tried. Same with Seraph. Fuck Seraph.
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>>562652632
true
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>>562652446
KWAB
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>>562652678
Then I got one at least once a week a few months later*
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>>562651608
Idling well spent
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>>562633842
>No character creation
PASS
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>>562654921
Sorry you have to play as a white man, Ranjeet.
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>>562479818
(you)
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>>562524865
Its a remake, not a remaster. It can and should be different. Vastly different, so there is no confusion. In the way Resident Evil 2 Remake was a great game that didn't look or play like it's original.

Which makes me think this game is doing to be shit. Just this snippet shows its basically the same game except for "meme" changes based on "vibes".

>game too slow, add sprint
>lol what dummy put that rock there :skullemoji:
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I cooked some scallops mushroom spinach pasta tonight and it was so fucking good
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anyone want to show me how to do warlords ruin
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>>562659598
fuck no
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>>562659598
it's pretty easy man, are you the guy that was asking a few days ago? I'm still not going to reinstall but I'll talk you through any sections you're having trouble with
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>>562659598
im not paying extra to play a single dungeon
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>>562659598
I would but you are asking me to play a shit game that made all of my gear irrelevant in EOF so no thanks
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>>562599603
I gave up on it when it looked like I needed to restart my system in bios to enable some function to make the emu work, something VT. Too lazy.
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>>562613881
>(unless you are comparing them to the average d2 guardian)
This just reminds me of
>went down with a fireteam of 9
Bitch 6 can take down the king of the taken, how are you all so bad at this?
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>>562660339
So, why did they sunset again?
What was the point? they unknowingly cooked the rest of the game
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>>562659598
eye poke to get out of jail
stand in prayer circles
brr cold better get warm
punch darkness midnight evil black motherfuckers to remove aids
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Is today the day marathon hits consistent 20k players
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I genuinely do not understand why this game didn't go the Destiny 1 route and let you complete a bounty to get a decent gun.
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the typa nigga that prefers d1 to forsaken era d2
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>>562662250
STAR WARS?
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>>562662316
Another one added to the collection
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>>562661731
>Remove permanence from gear
>Everyone focuses entirely on grinding rolls every 6 months
>No need to have devs making content for a dead IP instead of Marathon
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uh oh the jeets are back
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Not watching star wars rakesh
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>>562662316
Man, Josh Hamrick really fell on hard times after Concord huh?
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>>562662250
this is fucking gay
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>>562662316
I think we get the same reels. Anyways, the Forsaken era of D2 is long since behind us sadly and isnt coming back. In fact people that got into the game with Shadowkeep or even Beyond Light probably werent even aware of how good things were
>3 Raids a year (Last Wish, Scourge of the Past, Crown of Sorrow)
>2 new locations in one expansion, one of which has long since been vaulted
>New crucible maps at launch
>New weapon type in the form of bows
>100% new enemy faction
>Far less FOMO, seasonal activities werent removed from the game by the time the next expansion came out
>Focus was still on gunplay and not ability spam
>Could experience the campaign in progression in linear order as intended, from Red War to Season of Opulence
>ZERO Seasonal artifiacts and therefore no Champion enemy bullshit

Some of these things are just the bare minimum granted, which makes it even sadder how far Bungie fell from grace.
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>dead game
>bungie : play supremacy to do guardian games
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>>562661731
They tried to sell it to streamers and therefore Redditors as a way to spin a "new gear chase, something new to chase after". But of course there was basically jackshit outside of what was added to EoF/Portal exclusive loot and it straight up made it to where there was zero incentive to grind for anything that wasn't in the Portal.
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>>562661731
>unknowingly
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>>562664039
we had it so fucking good
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i hated the autoreload meta tho
shit was so fucking boring because handling and reload literally did nothing most of the time
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>>562664039
>>Focus was still on gunplay and not ability spam
I really dislike this statement but I'm assuming it's in a crucible perspective.
I love(d) playing Warlock because all the builds were just maximizing ability uptime. I used the shit out of Getaway artist when it dropped, my second most used exotic behind felwinter's helm.
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>>562664906
Well of radiance in general was a cancer to the game and its balance and still effects it today
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>>562664906
Somewhat tangential but I think my favorite DPS meta was Taniks because, as the well slut, I was rotating between Div and my ALH delayed detonation rocket launcher.
Tapping div to keep it up then swapping to the rocket every so often for free damage was fun, even if my numbers were lower because I was the well slut.
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>>562665060
Ability focused ganeplay ruined the game. When people talk about D2, or any bungie title, they praise the polished gunplay and sometimes movement. No one praises D2 for the abilities. Balancing around them completely removed the relevance of guns from the game beyond triggering ability effects or modifiers. The main chase of the game, the loot, is now less important than just having the right exotic and fragments equipped. Weapons aren't even needed for champion stuns anymore.
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>>562664425
I'm surprised they did that. It's the most egregious crap they pulled in a long time. I just returned to the game after taking a break and I can't believe they didn't even attempt to add a few earnable armour and weapon sets to some of the vendors in the game.
They didn't even put the old dungeons and raids on rotation to drop tier'd gear. Even those pinnacles and ritual weapons should have been updated retroactively.
I dont own Edge of Fate or Renegades so I'm confined to the portal and guardian games. I cant even imagine how a new player is supposed to engage with any of this, and I understand why old players moved on or quit the game, there's no point to playing any of the older raids post edge of fate.

I remember saying that if they really cared, they could have added better rewards to rotating raids or gave out 100 bright dust for completing a rotating raid's trumphs just to get people in there doing it, but nothing ever changed.
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>>562666646
I can see the argument more clearly in a post 3.0 world, yeah, but being a space wizard was the whole appeal of Destiny to me, so I instinctively react to people who frame more abilities as a bad thing.
There's definitely a health medium that exists. Guns have been doing shit damage for years, they should be the main drivers of damage unless you purposely opt for a lower damage, trigger option. The issue now is thats all we have.
Chaining weakens with Felwinters via finishers and melees was the most fun I had on Warlock. Hunters having Assassin's Cowl gave a similar setup on Arc. I never really played Titan, but mostly because it felt like all their exotics were
>gun does gun things better
Regardless, I'm not the audience they want. Picrel is the exact peak of the mountain before it all tumbled downhill for me.
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>>562665101
immobile supers have no place in destiny
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>>562666646
it was the designer who added 100000 respawning enemies to every encounter that ruined the game, ability spam was introduced to counter it but is not actually the problem
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>>562668087
Except bubble though because atleast you can pickup the buffs from it and move out of it
It is also mainly handy in general encounters where titans couldn't reach flying enemy's with their super so it gives them something useful for those rare circumstances
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Jesus Christ won, total satanists death
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>sub 30k on a sunday
>end of the weekend which means a massive drop next week like every previous week
Marasissies just can't stop themselves from getting raped!
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>>562669432
Monday's gonna be fucking brutal.
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>>562668184
Ability spam wasn't a counter to the enemy spam, it was an intended feature. The game director wanted to turn D2 into a diablo clone and wanted guns to work like abilities. eg. Chaining explosions via volatile, scorch, jolt, etc. The engine was gimped to allow more enemies and effects to be on screen at once. They puahed ability spam because they thought it made for a better streaming experience than watching a guy play more conservatively ala D1 or early D2 where ammo economy mattered. Luke smith killed the game because he hates shooters.
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>>562651608
for me the cracks began to show in season 10
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>>562669432
It's probably going to get a bit above 30k over the next few hours but it's only downhill from there.
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>>562670261
Sunday's second "peak" has usually been lower on every previous week. But we might be at a point the numbers are so low that second peak might be just a little above or equal to the first peak on sundays.
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>>562665101
only good thing to come out of well of radiance was wellskating
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>>562669432
Its honestly wild to see a very likely future where Marathon gets D2 level players on Steam. On one hand I feel bad for some devs because they did put some effort into the world, but on the other hand I do not feel sorry for the rest of the devs, definitely not the directors that STILL insisted on making an extraction shooter reboot over a simple Doom clone for a what was a Doom clone for Macs.
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fucking crazy to see this on a brand new several hundred million dollars triple A game
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>>562673617
>speedrunning tranny slop
Nah
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Playercount status?
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>>562675401
freefall
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>>562675401
just warming up. watch it bounce up once everyone comes back church
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>>562675401
Guardian Games wasn't it, heading back to sub 10k next week. Curious to see how low it'll get by June
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>>562677285
We don't talk about Destiny here, Marasister.
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>>562677413
Oh right
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>>562675401
People claim the game has a big european/american difference but the gap only shows itself on workdays, otherwise the player distribution levels out. Which I think has shown the playerbase is on a very general decline more than just europeans leaving.
I'd be more interested in demographics, because I'm not even sure why Marathon has a Teen rating considering I've not seen a single shred of evidence of someone under 20 playing this game, which might be a large reason as to why the game just doesn't have any pick-up.
I've heard like young people (obviously below 20) in Arc Raiders but I've not heard a single example of someone below 20 in Marathon, which isn't something I really thought about before this post.

Destiny might've leeched a few players off from Marathon considering Marathon is honestly lacking a lot of content for some players and the Destiny players who went to Marathon have probably come back or tried Guardian Games.
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Is it time for bungie to go back to the well?
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>>562680169
what well?
what fucking well?
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>>562680421
The well of marketing money
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>>562680421
time for another "event" to grind this shit with no refreshed loot or actual reason to do it
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>>562677751
The Destiny fans that tried the Marathon reboot 100% came crawling back to the series, if it wasn't with D2's Guardian Games event then they went back to D1 or Rising. And if they decided that its no longer worth supporting a tone-deaf studio like Bungie, then they moved onto other games like Division 2, Fallout 76, or even Warframe to help get their looter fix.
Its also why it was a horrific idea for Bungie to push Destiny fans towards Marathon because looter shooter fans are inherently incompatible with hardcore PvPve extraction shooter fans. One side wants to become attached to their loot and only give it up on their own terms, while the other side just wants to troll people and ruin their experience for no other reason than just pure love of it.
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Why did they think it was a good job to sunset everything but not renew the loot? Are bungie retarded or was it pure greed? because the game's dead.
And even if you wanted to argue that they were holding out for marathon to flourish so they could piss off from destiny, well now that doesn't look like a viable strategy. Realistically, they could probably get way more players onto Destiny if they just got their shit together and promoted the new player experience, but I think that's entirely on Sony to fire people holding back the game.
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>>562681256
Marathon unironically revived other extraction shooters like Hunt Showdown
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>>562681310
They knew the game was effectively dead and would no longer see any growth so they did the typical EOS thing and pushed any remaining effort into MTX to eek out as much as possible from the whales before they finally jump ship. It's the reason we still have yet to hear literally anything about the major content release that was supposed to happen at the beginning of March. Unironically they expected Marathon to completely take over and are probably pissed off that they're going to be forced to push out yet another minimal effort patch to the game they would love to just move on from.

Literally none of this would be an issue if their leadership wasn't completely retarded and started working on D3 5+ years ago instead of the 12 other side-projects that inevitably got canned
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>>562681702
Ironically its because Hunt is nowhere near as frustratingly sweaty as Marathon. You don't have to deal with people trying to pull off movement "tech", the guns are all inherently clunky due to the time period so you'll either die instantly or you'll survive due to missed shots and long reload periods, there's no shields so basically everyone is on the same level, and because there's no colored loot rarity it makes it so gear fear is very low, you can kill other players or enemies very easily with anything.
I just have no clue what Bungie wanted, whether they wanted to make "the most hardcore" extraction shooter ever, or something forgiving and mainstream enough to bring people into the genre.
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>>562682567
I had more fun in Hunt because I had no idea what my inventory even was. I always had enough money to buy the gun I wanted and was decent enough at aiming to hit heads most of the time so I didn't fuss with the alt ammos at all. My main issue with it is that every match felt very same-y and I prefer to have quests and vendor progression like in Tarkov. Ultimately enjoy it more than marathon even though I prefer the aesthetics and setting of marathon
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>>562681256
>Its also why it was a horrific idea for Bungie to push Destiny fans towards Marathon because looter shooter fans are inherently incompatible with hardcore PvPve extraction shooter fans. One side wants to become attached to their loot and only give it up on their own terms, while the other side just wants to troll people and ruin their experience for no other reason than just pure love of it.
The sentiment right now is pretty much this. A good number of the players have "accepted they'll never see compiler" and that some level 50-80 players go up against players who are level 150-200.
Some people in trios are going up against premades who do nothing but wipe the lobby and ignore all loot in-game just to wipe the lobby first or just simply to loot other players and then extract. There is really no threat in the game PvE-wise against these players because the AI in the game is not a problem in a squad, especially when geared up. Most people just run straight past the AI because the danger only really comes from stun-hits or melee damage.

Ironically, solo solves a lot of those problems but it simply leads people to play the game as if they can be melted by another player in 5 seconds and that gear is all that matters. The game actively encourages and rewards deathmatching and it leads to less conversation or tension since the only tension is whether or not you're going to run into a rape squad or a guy who's been sitting in a corner for 10+ minutes.
It highlights so much of the genre's problems, and its high-level/endgame doesn't really play like an extraction shooter unless you play solo, in which case its just a battle royale with extraction.

The absolute last thing you want to do is make people say "wow, other players are just too good for me" in a game where there is absolutely no training mode or any sort of skill-based matchmaking. "Ranked" in marathon does not solve any problems. Marathon's only way to learn it is worse than fighting games.
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>People are shocked that Marathon is loaded with cheaters
Fucking how? Destiny 2 uses the same shit and was loaded with them back when the game was somewhat populated
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>>562680421
Sony's bank account
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>>562680553
this was kino
fuck you
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>>562684563
My guess is that people that haven't played D2 or didn't play it on PC are just unaware of how deep the cheating problem is. That or they never touched a single Bungie product since Halo or D1 and thought
>Oh man a new game by Bungie, they always were great with pushing tech, they're going to show these companies how its really done!
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I think part of what helped Menagerie stick out so much was how varied the locations and objectives were.
The fact it was a random route really sold it. Sometimes you just didn't get an encounter.
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>>562681256
>ruin their experience for no other reason than just pure love of it.
this is psychosis
this behavior just isnt present in normal peoples brains
and it shouldn't be promoted.
and anyone doing so should be punished.
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>>562639848
Is this real
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>>562685870
yep. he was in the first round of layoffs.
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>>562684563
>warn people that the anti cheat is the same as d2
>get called a stupid doomer chud
>people find out the anti cheat is bad
>what the hell? Why is the anticheat so bad?
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>>562686130
Glad somebody was paying attention that he needed to go, then
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>>562639848
This guy is such a smug faggot
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>>562684563
the ads said it couldn't be cheated

just like how this game is from the creators of DESTINY and HALO even though those people dont work there anymore
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>>562681702
it also revived Division 2 with Destiny players, and ironically that game also has an extraction mode that's much more polished and fun than what Marathon does.
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>>562685417
No, that's a normal aspect of the genre, its important, there's nothing wrong with it, the problem is that there should be a balance and there should realistically be as little developer input to encourage or prevent players from taking that route through direct means.
Bungie (and Embark and other developers) kind of misunderstood the basis of the genre has always come from the same "single-life" survival games where if you die, you die and you start a "new" life.
The genre is at complete odds at itself with the idea that life doesn't mean anything and that gear is the only thing that matters, it detaches itself from a balance and it takes the concept into full-blown competitiveness rather than player interaction, conflict of wants and socialization impacting playstyle.

Cold-blooded murder doesn't give you a thrill in Marathon apart from having to metagame yourself into thinking "wow that dude must be so mad haha lol" and once you reach that stage of the game you're no longer worried about your gear, nor other players, and that "extracting" means quite literally nothing to you as a player other than being an annoying mechanic you have to put up with.
There is quite literally no story as a player you can build up, the only attachment you have is to the gear you carry, individual "runs" can mean everything to one player, and nothing to another player in such drastic swings that aren't remotely for healthy reasons.
Shroud did Compiler the first time he seriously attempted it while wiping the lobby and then asked how people struggled in the first place.

If they didn't tie themselves down to some gay way of making the factions not actually something you pledge to and itself made them individual seasonal grinds then maybe there could've been some chance to create memorable shit. Instead the only thing memorable for players is that time they suffered immensely to get a yellow shiny that they'll either stick in their vault and never use or lose immediately.
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LMFAOOOOO it might hit sub 25k tomorrow
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>>562639848
The worst part of this is how right he is, they have a strong grip on literal goycattle consumers.
Prophecy had less content than shadowkeep at nearly double the price.
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The rape will continue
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>>562687485
>No, that's a normal aspect of the genre
no you fucking ghoul im saying people who gain pleasure from inflicting pain on others is psychosis.
i dont give a fuck if thats the "genre".
snuff films are also a genre
that doesnt mean it and the people that create content for it and consume content from it are normal people.
they are sick in the head and should be removed from society.
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>>562587469
we never got the vex leg back either
no, the shitty little boot from undying doesn't count
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>>562688278
cope and seethe
undying had kino armour
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>>562684563
I hate how we don't have linux support "because its to stop cheaters" when we have tons of cheaters anyway. They're just fucking lazy.
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>>562688563
That should've been the raid armor instead of reskinned eververse slop BTW
Shadowkeep was the scummiest expansion ever
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>>562688563
I didn't say it was bad, I said it doesn't count as the vex leg
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>>562688692
one of the best hunter sets.
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>>562688138
I'm not going to sit here and say I get any enjoyment from doing it myself but the point of my post is that someone might actually have a reason of killing another player in extraction shooters (if they were designed properly).
In Marathon it doesn't matter what justification you can make up, 100% of the time, there is no reason to not kill someone.
Again, the inherent design of these games suck the idea of playing a role or individual playstyles from existence, so you just get people who constantly play nothing but murderhobo or deranged killer because lives are not a thing, upgrades are permanent and gear is the only thing you lose.

The problem isn't the idea of killing everyone you come across in-game, its that the only way to be better at the game, the only path of progression and through Bungie's own admittance is that you are supposed to inflict pain on others to get anything done.
And once again, thanks to Bungie's core design of seasonal grinds, this will be the way the game plays. Forever. You gotta re-grind all your shit after all and that means playing in the most effective ways possible.
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>>562689115
>there is no reason to not kill someone.
there is tho
if they are friendly there is no reason to kill them unless you are sick in the head
and/or if you dont need ANY of the gear they have on them killing them has no value other than satiating the sickness in your head.
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>>562689474
Nta but I think you're going to the other extreme, the game is inherently dangerous and players mostly kill each other due to the sheer danger of leaving another player alive who could easily burst you while you're not looking. There's the weirdos too but you knew what you signed up for if you bought this game (or you didn't and bought due to culture war shit which is ironically a thing that's happened and is burning out a lot of retards) and you should just accept that you're always taking a risk.
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Loot is limited, the game has an incredibly quick time to kill (shotguns, snipers, smgs), there's no communicative features to speak of, the game rewards you for killing other players more than it does for any other way of getting loot in every map except the one map open from Thursday - Sunday, and anyone around you might be a sick in the head faggot who's taking advantage of your kindness to backstab you. Plus the limited time in the wipe with very little to do for players at the end of progression and the other extreme where new/not amazing players need to suffer through loss after loss to progress anywhere leaves everyone playing effectively once the first wipe is finished.
When there is literally no benefit other than I guess not having to waste a couple rounds you'll earn back killing them, what do you think players are going to do?

Again, it isn't a problem of people playing the game in this case, the design of it from top to bottom is just completely asinine.



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