chibi edition>Update 12.0 patch notes:https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/356-patch-notes-12-0>Hotfix 12.2 patch noteshttps://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/367-hotfix-12-2-patch-notes>February Community updatehttps://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/355-february-community-update>Year 2 Roadmap:https://i.imgur.com/61HZRF3.jpeg>Where to get the game:https://www.focus-entmt.com/en/games/warhammer-40000-space-marine-2>Lore Stuff:https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Pagehttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Main_Page>For jolly cooperation with your battle brothers (Can also post codes for jolly coop/PvP. Edit Squad -> Invite Menu):https://steamcommunity.com/groups/sm2general>Workaround with matchmaking (not finding players, only 2/3):Back out to the main menu and re-enter battle barge.>Datasheet showing hidden difficulty modifiers for each difficulty (for easier damage reference):https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1kVvYgDBoAan98W3IjAM6ERdq-QfkCsaVvXKF5g_Q9sU/htmlview>Spreadsheet useful for damage calculation:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HzX5LzOD8NZyOTV-BUyL8kWoLEpt-skM/>Recommended prestige perks:https://i.imgur.com/vHSeEDt.jpeg>/sm2g/ Dude Wall - Compilation of Dudes:https://dudewall.github.io/dude-wall/>/sm2g/ Phantom Links Chapter Lore:https://rentry.org/ChroniclesofPhantomLinks>Other useful links:https://pastebin.com/VZ0ryCNB (embed)Previously on the Battle-Barge: >>561584528
when patch
>>562513514Yes, that's why I know that you can dodge blue attacks and red attacks, and why I also know that if you interrupt a gaunt's pathing with a dodge you won't be able to catch it with a parry. Retard. Why do people who are bad at the game insist on giving their two cents?
>>562514502Late July. Trust the plan Brother.
>>562514502In 2 weeks we will be told that we will get more information in 2 weeks
>>562514763I hate these useless fucking gopniks so much.
Threadly reminder that lightning claws are an inherently feminine weapon
>>562514763>>562514998Saber's making Fatshark look like a competent and diligent dev team by comparison. What a time to be alive!
Thoughts on the tech-marine? I hope we get a librarian at one point.
>>562515405I like to dress in women's clothing so it sounds perfect for me.
>>562517259Fun, if a bit too damn reliant on hogging up all the grenade drops or a Tactical in the squad.Wished the omni-axe was a bit more involved as a weapon beyond swing + explosion but I guess the charge levels is unique enough.
>>562517392>he doesnt knowcharge is secret tech, you can charge into groups of minoris enemy and gunstrike constantly, also really good in those modifiers that reduce melee damage but scale them to 300%
>>562517259Sniper servo gun too OPThere's no point using the normal or the plasma version, they need to buff both since nerfing the sniper will make the class literally uselessMy suggestion is that the normal servo doesn't eat up charges when shooting at Minoris targets and only eats minimal charges against Majoris/Extremis targets allowing it to be spammed while plasma servo only fires fully charged shots at maximum speed instead of common shots
>>562517848I like the charge but a majoris is going to load up a blue parry attack at some point while I make my way there or in the middle of my triple stab.
>>562517857plasma just needs a projectile speed increase or not consume if it misses
>>562517259>I hope we get a librarian at one point.Anon, if they started working on a new class there wouldn't have been any content for months on end. They couldn't even meet deadlines they themselves set before. Honestly, we'll be lucky if they release anything reasonably big content wise in the coming months.
>playing as non-host, but don't see connection warning>entire healthbar is turned into CHP by enraged shotgun nid, but it's fine because I'm getting the gunstrike execute on him>except I don't, despite the animation playing and his head popping to the shot, because the game desynced and awarded the kill to someone else>neurothrope shoes up and begins charging his tribeam at me, but I'm playing assault so the dodge window is easy, and I get the perfect dodge audio along with the little slowmo cinematic effect>but apparently the beam did hit me, so I'm dead nowI'm just going to have to stop doing anything other than hosting, this is getting ridiculous.>>562517259A melee class that has a primary weapon for some reason.>>562517392>he's doing the equipment buildlol
>>562518508>equipment buildI'm not, I'm just curious why that build even exists when it's so reliant on drops or a Tactical. I run Precision Servo Gun + Melee Damage AmplificationBut having more than one playstyle per class is a luxury I guess.
>>562517259They're not adding any new classes anymore, they're just going to complete cosmetics for the S2 pack and they're going to move on to SM3.
>>562517259They've already said they're not adding a Librarian, as well as saying that Greatswords would be a higher priority of being something they implement than Lightning Claws
>>562519043>they're going to move on to SM3.And +12 other games while they're at it. Don't forget.
Turrets should present a directional option when interacted; to prevent cheesing the decision only lasts for 5 seconds before it defaults to a normal turret and cannot be changed again once activated; can only be recharged until its destroyedW for normal turretA for flamer turretS for plasma turretD for missile turretEach version has their pros/cons as well as ammo charges
Nerf the turrets but make them be placeable by the player himself. Half the time they're obscured by boxes and only useful if you lure enemies towards it, which isn't supported by the codex
Librarian would be difficult unless its class skill is only Smite and 2 other meme skills like Psychic Blast (small AoE fart) or some kind of buff/shield. Apothecary is much more doable since they already have the backpack tech added from the Techmarine and its even more easy since the Apothecary's backpack implements aren't active and 90% of the work are done with the Narthecium and Reductor Pistol.
Servo Gun AND a sentry drop at will would make Techmarine TOO good and would require nerfs on both elements.
>>562517105
>>562519968Just make it so Telorian can't use any throwables and instead he can place his turrets. Maybe place some pick ups around so that he can collect "gear" to put together a sentry while on an op or something.Only nerf I would add if they really wanted to would've been 1-2 turrets per boss fight.
>>562517259>Thoughts on the tech-marine?Needs some kind of health-related defensive perk, like more health, faster CHP recovery, slower CHP drain, ect. Servo gun variants might need another look but its not that bad. Otherwise hes fine.Shoutouts to the nogames retards spouting asinine garbage ideas. vg wouldn't be vg without you dipshits.
>>562520220This becomes more disturbing after each subsequent watch.
>>562520341>Techmarine>can't use grenadesNah, just make turret drops cap out at like 5 per game, 7 if they picked a prestige perk Players will only drop them when there's a Terminus fight
Why don't they let us pick our equipment as part of our loadout. Obviously melta bombs shouldn't be included, but everything else is fine
>>562520565no one would pick normal frags then, everyone will be using kraks and shocksmelta bombs should be included too but secure stockpile is literally op
>>562520565To encourage players to scavenge the map a little instead of beelining it to the next checkpoint. Small as they may be, finding the grenades you want still gives a hit of dopamine.
>>562520348>the class that literally shits out armor needs more defenseI agree, /vg/ always has the dumbest players for any given game.
>>562517259Combat Squad Resupply should have the effect of Secure Stockpile and vice versa. Tactical has so much going for him that not also having the best equipment restoration perk in the game on top of the rest of his kit isn't going to pain him too much, and Techmarine having so much of his talent tree revolve around using equipment, but then having the worst restoration perk in the game, is really stupid. Tactical, Assault, Vanguard, Heavy and Sniper all have equipment restoration perks that are no-brainer picks in their rows and have conditions so easy to proc that you will be doing it by complete accident most of the time (Tactical "procs" his simply by being in the game for a minute), meanwhile Replenishing Salvo requires at least a little bit of conscious effort in comparison and is competing with a faster Servogun cooldown and Augmented Tarantula.Also the name of the perks are more appropriate for the other effect.>Secure Stockpile... resupplies your grenades?>Combat Squad Resupply... increases your grenade stockpile?Shit makes no sense.
>>562520959secure stockpile should be moved to the techmarine as its last team perktactical gets a buffed version of aligned aim as its first team perk, the extra grenade perk from the techmarine as its second and advanced conditioning as its third - to be removed once they add the apothecary
>massive wave spawns>server crasheslmao
-3 stims
what the fucking shit is going on with the AI director lately>run into multiple instances of rocket terminators just spamming them endlessly>3 fucking lictors decide to jump me and nobody else and kill only me>recent match on termination features a carnifex that gets locked into a rush loop>hierophant itself somehow locked into spamming it's shots
hammer has the most satisfying attack to use with block
>>562521429They're going to buff secure stockpile to regen grenades every 45 seconds, nerf aligned aim to be in line with transhuman physiology, and do nothing to the techmarine.
Why does every game I join today have such a poor connection? I'm in WEuro ffs
>>562528825>block is le good>already ate shit>about to eat shitBlockniggers
Can I get a rundown on the instigator compared to the oculus? Is there any value in using the non-heroic instigator?
>>562520220AI videos make me think the Imperium was right about clankers
>>562532347It's honestly shit. The only carbine worth a damn is the vanilla one since it has a semi-auto version, tons of ammo, and doesn't have a scope that blocks your vision.
>>562532347>instigatorworse than oculus, an already bad weapon>heroic instigatorbetter than oculus but that isnt an accomplishment Oculus is actually pretty alright on techmarine because he actually gets perks that buff ranged weapons.
>>562533148Grim. I guess I'm using carbine on two of vanguard's loadout slots then.
>>562533447I use it for the arena bosses when I'm playing vanguard, since you get to switch out right before.
>>562532347In my experience, the Heroic Instigator is alright when you're dealing with the Heldrake and Vortex Beast, but otherwise I just use the accuracy full auto Carbine. Occulus feels like a shitty middle ground between the two and once I leveled it up fully I stopped using it
>>562532347The Instigator is dogshit, the Oculus has a final perk that does 10% more damage after you've used a class skill which makes it useful for Techmarine after using its servogun or a Vanguard who wants to magdump headshots after a grapple.99% of all situations you're best served with the ammo version full auto bolt carbine in the first slot, a Melta rifle in the 2nd slot and the heroic Instigator in your 3rd slot.
Wouldn't it be nice if the damage numbers on weapons actually meant something
>>562515405No they aren't.
I want em so bad, bros...
what does Secure Stockpile do in opersations?
>>562549187Lets your team output 3 meltabombs every minuteAlways* pick
>>562549640it just magically appears if the greande slot is empty?
>>562549187Regens everyone's grenades every 60 seconds, granting everyone infinite grenades.It's continuous btw, meaning the timer keeps going no matter what. So you can use a melta bomb right before the timer ticks to 60, and then immediately have another melta ready to plant for example.Essential on siege. You'll regularly be killing whole hordes and multiple extremis at once with them there.
>>562549187Regens one grenade for entire team every 60 seconds, there's 0 reason to ever take anything else
>>562550050>>562550008>>562549640>picks restore extra hp on ranged attacksnothing personel
>>562549803It only regens the grenade type you last picked up.You still need to find a melta bomb to have "infinite" melta bombs, and their spawn rate is lower than the other grenade types.
>>562550050There are missions where you can't use equipment, Neophyte-kun. 3 hours in the Pain Glove.
>>562553628Don't threaten me with a good time Mr. Poop Vault
Geedubs has taken pains to make us forget about Ian Watson and C.S. Goto's crimes against literature.Personally I'm more than willing to forget that shit (pun intended)
>>562555524I've just lobotomized myself and forcefully forgotten anything post-7th edition. I look at my guy in SM2 and go "woah, why are those marines so big?" Roboute Guilliman? Oh, you mean the guy who hasn't been around for ten thousand yeas? I don't even know what a primaris is.
i only cherrypick the good parts of the lore
I only cherrypick the good parts of the good lore, aka the stuff I like.
>solo absolute>Neurothrope spawns>horde of literally nothing but devourers, venom cannons and barbed stranglers spawnThis is the most unfun fucking nigger dogshit I have ever experienced.
>>562553628You think I'm smart enough to remember to switch off of it?
>>562559367>I only cherrypick the good parts of the good lore, aka the stuff I like.That's pretty much the way to do it these days.There's too much for people to know 100% of everything anyways.
>>562559863You said there is never a reason to stop running it. That is objectively false. During missions where equipment is not allowed, you cannot generate equipment. This means Secured Stockpile is entirely worthless in the given situation. Thus, it should be switched.
>>562568685He's not the one that said that silly billy, I am
>>562569204Go away, Gold Ship.
If someone was going to hypothetically write erotica about a battle sister getting instant lossed by an alien, which species would fit?
>>562572025The answer is always Drukhari
>>562572025Depends on what type you're going for. Tyranids cover the animal fuckers and DE cover the ayy lmao fuckers
Only a miserable spiteful nigger would invent enraged Devourers and Venom Cannons.
>>562573882welcome to the slavs
I think I'm starting to enjoy sniping. It feels really good to see a horde of Nidders coming and to just BLOOP them out of existence one by one. I get a little dopamine hit every time I get the head shot hit marker.
Sometimes it feels like I am pulling a cactus out of my asshole.
>>562572657I want to go more for feral/monster stuff but if I was gonna use the nids I need something that wouldn't outright kill
>>562576389Gene Stealers are literally made to fuck genetic material into women without killing them and sending them on their way. I forget if it's the earlier or later generations, but they make individuals who are outright Adonises or bombshells that can woo the pants off of anyone in order to penetrate society's upper ranks. You could have a Sister get insta-lossed by a Chad Gene Stealer clergyman she discovers is part of a GS Cult that's infiltrated her convent or something. Maybe he finds out she can't have kids, so he throws her into a pit with the more mutated ones for some horrific gangbang action, or the Patriarch of the Gene Stealer Cult uses her as his own personal flesh light.
>>562576832I'd probably make it a base gene stealer instead of a cultist since monsters are the point. Can have it try extra hard to impregnate the sister
>>562553628>>562568685>>562569405Fuck off Fist, go eat shit stupid Fist
>>562585405Repeat? Your transmission is garbled. I cannot hear you over the sound of you performing oral sex on your Daemon Dick Lady. Please remove her phallus from your throat and swallow before reattempting to establish communications.
>>562585717Don't you have poop to worship?
You lost the Iron CageYou lost against the OrkzYour lameass Primarch is deadWe are not the same
>>562588586>>562588867Transmissions still inaudible. Try again at a later time. Over and out.
>>562585717>>562591827"Repeat" and "Over and out" are improper radio etiquette
>>562592752"Repeat" is used to indicate previous orders are to be repeated, such as the bombing of a grid square, however "over and out" I will concede, is improper communication. I will not spend 1 hour in the Pain Glove and persevere easily due to my knowledge of my Primarch's love for me.
>>562592929Repeat is used to order a consecutive volley of fire and for no other purpose. The proper terminology to request somebody relay their last message is "say again" or "say again your last".
>>562594221Query: what is the proper order to request the removal of Daemon cock from the sending party's mouth?
>it's only ok when Fists are autistic
>>562517259Glassiest Cannon to ever be glass and a cannon. Zero fucking survivability or super armor, forced into using Balance weapons, and no ammo regen means you have to be excellent at resource management and not getting mobbed by sword warriors/spawn.In exchange you get the best extremis killing ult in the game and all of his best primaries are headshot weapons so with a sufficient opening he's the only class I've seen that can out and out delete a Neurothrope in a full skill activation+mag dump. As other anons have said, it has shit grenade regen but if you're using the equipment perks you're playing him wrong.Servo Gunstrike is jank to get used to but legitimately amazing and such great quality of life utility that it's hard to go back. 10/10 will die because you tried to gunstrike while your servo gun was busy killing 4+ Majoris and not the Ravener ripping your ass off.He's fun and decent. Right beside Sniper in the "This thing needs to die now" department but under Tactical in overall metacomp placing. I just got him l25p4 yesterday, last dude I needed to max out, so now I'm just having fun testing other shit.
>>562532347Base Instigator fucking sucks. Damage and fire rate is too low to do anything. Heroic Instigator actially is a good weapon but the ammo economy on it is hot garbage so only pull it out if something needs to die asap. Also don't listen to people who say the occulus is bad. The 2x headshot variant is good and the scope makes it laser accurate so unless you're retarded and zoom in down a Tyranid's trachea you'll be fine using it like a midpoint between the base autocarbine and a sniper rifle. As far as the regular carbine goes, most use the ammo auto variant for shoving the gun in something's mouth and holding the trigger down until ready to execute. You're not gonna hit shit with it past 10m though so it's effectively a melee weapon in your primary slot. Marksman Carbine is fine but you need ammo regen for it and thus anyone who can use it has better options.
>>562597660i still use block weapons on tech marinebut i also more or less stopped playing him after finishing levelling and have returned to assault
>>562576079Me too Brother
>>562576079Hello fellow Templar Brethren.Wish this helmet had laurels on it.
Any aussies on for some custom f*n?
>>562602151Yeah I'll play for a bit.
>>562603223Sorry mate, kinda died there. Will be on tomorrow.
>get ravener grabbed from behind>am in full view of my other two teammates, who do not attempt to unbind me>put the ravener execute state myself afterwards>will get my entire healthbar back on the execute>teammate sprints in to steal the execute>get downed>alt+f4
This horseshit is burning me out.>>562605908Honestly I gotta stop playing this garbage because it's just becoming a source of frustration. I've unlocked pretty much everything except for the Siege mode weapon skins so the only reason I'm playing is for "fun", and that's rapidly dwindling.
>>562610073>I've unlocked pretty much everything except for the Siege mode weapon skins so the only reason I'm playing is for "fun", and that's rapidly dwindling.kind of samei do the weekly, a couple of QP ops that make me angry because carrying retards and random bullshit with the game, then go play something else to pass the timei could just spend that time writing in the first place
>>562610073I've maxed out everything in the game and at this point I'll only boot it up once every other week
>>562610073They really need to fix up the assaults jetpack dodge its so inconsistent.>dodge too early and it doesnt proc>dodge right as the attack comes out and it gets interrupted
>>562621190Don't forget the classic>dodge>jet pack damage hits before perfect dodge triggers and incapacitates enemy>no refund>one less charge and facing another dozen enemies
>>562610073>block chainswordFound your problem
>>562624250it's not block chainsword, he parries the lictorthere's also nothing wrong with block chainsword
>Raven guard 2 dlcs>Carcharodons 1 dlcs>Blood angels 2 dlcs>Salamanders 2 dlcs>Ultramarines 3 dlcs>Black templars 1 dlc>Imperil fists 1 dlc>White scars 1 dlc>Me a humble Iron Hands fan: "Wow Saber that's over 200 dollers worth of dlc. Some of which weren't even founding legions, and some of them got multiple dlcs! That's ok though I have been patient and would now like my IH chapter pack as promised by your roadmap.>Saber: Pfffft ah.....we wait till april...ye....erererere...whatever....we make new roadmap now. Do they really hate the sons of Ferrus that much?
>>562625236oh, sorry, BALANCED chainsword. That's even worse
>>562625990Not if it's the heroic. Easily one of, if not the best melee weapon in the game on bulwark and assault.
>>562625695>IHfag wants to replace his legs with tank treads but can't do mathI'd say "many such cases" but thankfully Iron Hands don't have many fans.
>>562625695No one gives a shit about iron hands thats why
>>562625695I doubt even Saber cares enough about IHs to meet any possible deadlines related to their pack.
>>562626138balanced anything will never be good
>>562628580parry gooder, or just don't parry and realize assault's dash build is fucking insane
>>562626294What math did I not do?>>562626760>>562626917>>562626917>NoBoDy WiKeS dE iRoN hAnDs!I DO!ME!I EXIST! JUST BECAUSE YOU SAY "NOBODY X" DOESN'T MAKE IT TRUE! MAYBE YOU'RE JUST A RETARD?I HAVE A VOTE! AND THEREFORE IT IS FACTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR """""""""""NOBODY"""""""""" TO LIKE THE IRON HANDS! HOW'S THAT FOR DOING MATH?!AND WHILE IM HERE EXISTING IM GOING TO DROP SOME MORE OPINIONS YOU DISAGREE WITH!>Pert is a shittier Ferrus. Everything Ferrus does, Pert does WORSE. He is a inverse mirror to Ferus's greatness. Proof that bad primarchs live and good ones die. People like Pert because he's a faggot and redditors relate to faggots.>Vulkan is a retard, a hypocrite, and a pretentious asshole.>Corax is a pussy.>Guilliman is a traitor and a conniving dickhead. He's NOT good at statecraft. Only being a coward and usurping power. I bet he tried to get Yvraine in bed with him, but got too forceful and scared her away>Primarch shit in general has devolved into comic-tier Shit flinging because of reddit and the comic tier shitflingers that it attracted. Space marines were NEVER designed to be heroic defenders of the imperium. They're mutants and weapons. Iron hands are the few chapters that stay true to that and that's why they're hated.>Black templars are overrated. >Carcharodons are out of place.>Custodes should just be replaced by Imperial fists. >This game needs more than two factions to fight. The appeal to 40k is there being lots of things to fight.THERES MY POST! I HOPE IT KILLS YOUCARO INFIRMA!
>>562630531You counted the season passes and the pack DLC's together. Pick one.>Seething about Gulliman, Corax, and Pert of all people>Pretending Ferrus is more than a plot point for the HHDelusional just like the IH's.
>have an oc donut steel raven guard subchapter paint scheme for all classes>they were going to do the raven guard voice next>completely bungled the first voice pack by underestimating how much extra work it'd be and underdelivering on what the fans would actually want>now they're just not going to do voice packs ever again
>>562631794>You counted the season passes and the pack DLC's together. Pick one.No.>>Pretending Ferrus is more than a plot point for the HHFerrus was a soldier and a hero
>>562632587They should have never done the voicepack in the first place though
>>562634981It's a massive failure in project management to ever start it in the first place
>>562515405threadly reminder youre really autistic and you should stfu
The wait is killing me
>>562625695We endure, brother.
Newbs should play heavy.
>>562657359Newbs should fuck off.
>>562632587Anybody with a brain should have been able to realise that asking people to pay for a voice pack DLC not even included in the season pass that doesn't touch anything less than every single line in the game wasn't going to go over well, especially when they were prattling on about it having "over 500 lines" without making it clear that number included translations. If they had just managed expectations from the start I honestly believe they probably could have gotten away with selling it separately without having it blow up in their faces and being forced to refund everyone and give it away for free. I do like it for what it is now that I actually have it, but it definitely isn't worth five bucks just to hear my Skyclaw howl like a wolf whenever he takes off, as entertaining as that is.It was simply unfeasible to do something like this with the treatment that a lot of people anticipated and never should have been attempted. What they SHOULD have done is give the already existing characters some new lines for when they're taking up a different battlefield role now that their voices are interchangeable. Would it really have been so hard or expensive to have the voice actors they apparently have on speed dial to do some new combat barks for using the jump pack or auxpex? Maybe even take it a step further and add in some squad banter for it, like Decimus ribbing Scipius for choosing to be a Jump Pack Intercessor instead of an Eliminator that day. If they were going to expend any amount of resources on voice acting beyond the minimum for new operations, then it should have been for this.
>>562632587Good. Voice packs are fucking retarded and the least of this games problems.Bolters still suck shit. Its been three thousand fucking years and BOLTERS in a SPACE MARINE game fucking SUCK.
>>562610073>block player complaining the game isnt funThe jokes write themselves.
Best way to make playing with the power sword not feel like a pool noodle?
>>562663196>non block retard can't tell balance from blockC'mon, sport. If he had been using block, he'd have been able to stun all those Nids and hyper armor anything they through at him. His real issue is being a dumbass using Balance and trying to fight a circle of guys instead of escaping the group and putting terrain between him and the Carnifex.The Codex Astartes speaks of this.
>>562663292Don't bother swinging more than once or twice.Just power rake or power whirl.
>>562663292Power rake spam with the gaylmao sword
>>562663292In theory you should be constantly switching between modes. In practice it's just "Spam power rake/power whirl endlessly"
>>562664438Darktide got the power sword right. You charge it up for a handful of AoE attacks instead of a toggle.
>>562665098>the power sword that gets tired and has to be reminded to stay on every 3 swings is "the right way" to do power swordsI got a better idea, how about they just stay on and there's no activation mechanic of any kindSaber can feel free to use that one for power greatsword.
>lock the default VA's in a cage>make each one record lines for each ability>make a base template for each voice without references to ultramar, ultramarines, rowboat, codexwank>chapter voicepacks are just the base VA's with flavor lines for a specific chapter and tie them to 1 at a time, scipius for raven guard or straban for impfists etc.problem solved
Do you turn on your lightning claws when getting a manicure with the girlies?
>>562665839Only when spilling the tea bestie
>>562665596>make the game's audio english only>only do subtitles for other languagesproblem solved>go back in time and decide against the entirety of the class system and each of them having a identity as a character>reduce mission chatter heavily, or to 0problem solved>go back in time and make 6 likeable characters who don't explicitly say anything ultramarine relatedproblem solved
>>562663196are you fucking blind you can't tell that's balanced just by the swing speed? holy shit you're a fucking retard
>>562648340Youre going to be waiting until July lmfao.
>>562671204Time to just go farm Havoc cosmetics in Darktide.
Truly no other chapter is as raped in this game as the Salamanders, not even the Iron Hands. It's better to have no unique cosmetics at all than the absolute shit the Sallys got.>champion skin is for the Sniper, literally the worst choice imaginable for a chapter like the Salamanders>due to it being Phobos, none of the pieces are interchangable with any other class except for the Vanguard, which would be the second worst choice for Salamanders>two of the four pieces in the cosmetic pack look like hot dogshit, left pauldron looks like an Ogryn went crazy with some glue and a chunk of onyx and by now everyone has seen how hard the helmet got memed on>didn't even get a unique chest plate outside Phobos, meanwhile chapters like the Raven Guard and Space Wolves have unique chest pieces that are interchangeable between Phobos, Tacticus and Gravis>Tactical can't even wear the champion's reptile skin loin covering as wargear like he can with the Raven Guard champ's leather straps>even though the cosmetic pack pieces are interchangeable with Heavy, they look awkward and small on his Gravis armour, meaning the brazier is the only piece that actually look good on the one class everyone initially anticipated would be the obvious pick for a Salamanders champion skin>literally three of his four unique primaries are weapons the Salamanders specialise in, yet they gave it to the Sniper because "he has a cape bro">pretty much guaranteed we're never getting any more Salamanders pieces since they've already got a champion skin and cosmetic pack
>>562660354>>>/wsg/6123794
>>562665098Why would you ever turn off a power sword
>>562678719this truly is a lamenter moment....
Does anyone want to play any games?
does anyone have a problem with this game causing connected bluetooth devices to desync and lag the whole game on PC? It always happens in the middle of a fight, and it ONLY happens with SM2 so I KNOW it's the game glitching out because the framerate drops to near 0 until I hit pause on the keyboard, then everything reconnects and is back to normal. sometimes its both the controller and my headset, but usually just controller. keeps getting me killed and it's pissing me off.>inb4 kb+mfeels weird as fuck with this game.
Can you niggers post in this thread?
>>562682097use keyboard and mouse or get a controller that wired if you can't do that
>>562692357>can't use kb+mIn what fucking grimdark future is that less expensive than a controller?
>>562692575Some people can't accept having melee on RMB and ADS on middle mouse
>>562679508Its not off, its just overloaded
>>562690450Games dead jim
>>562682097Wireless is for babies and is asking for connection problems, play wired.
CEDK4 - Aus hard dailies and a custom if enough people.
>>562660354>you should lend me that jump pack some time>I would never want for a good vantage again>said the assault marine to the devastator
How do I get the blue triangle currency. I wanna get the final Chainsword.
>>562720058Stratagems.
>>562720058Stratagems. Normal is roughly based on Substantial, and Hard is roughly based on Absolute
>>562720058Strategems. Normal is roughly based on Substantial, and Hard is roughly based on Absolute. Modifier combinations are not double checked by real people though, so they might make the operation easier, significantly harder, or even unwinnable - we once had an exfiltration where melta bombs didn't spawn.
Still got it, even after a month long break
>>562553628Man, the default classic bolter looks so much cleaner, compared to the primaris variants, and they couldn't even let us keep that for the "carbine", because they HAD to slap a fucking vertical grip on it, on a gun designed to be held by supersoldiers with power armor.
The upcoming weekly stratagem will be Exfiltration with>Tsunami>Major Challenge>Spoils of War
>>562679508Maybe they changed it, but at launch it was justified as being a shitty model of power sword that couldn't stay active indefinitely/wasn't attached to a power pack on the veteran's back.The force sword and chain weapons worked the same way.
>>562732075So everything's gonna spawn more often except extremis and terminus (which already spawn more often on hard),and pickups only drop from enemies?
>>562734594>All waves are massive waves but are less frequent>More Majoris enemies>Ammo drops only from kills
>>562732075>players hate Chaos>have another Exfiltration weeklyUkraine needs to bomb their HQ in Cyprus and Hungry.
>>562735989Exfiltration is Tyranids
>>562734594Let's be real, there will still be an extra Terminus spawn anyway because Saber can't help themselves
>>562736263>saber does [literally fucking anything]>that one operative assigned to influence public opinion on current events in /sm2g/:
>>562736263Yeah but the Trygon fight is aidsIt likes to chain jumping phases with add phases and never actually do the damage phase
>>562737708Use your damn meltasLearn to parry/block its combos and go bring a flamer.
>>562737708trygon is the most kino fight
>>562737708Drop a single melta bomb on it and it'll stagger. Keep in mind that every time you do this, the average pub player will immediately sprint from the other side of the arena to drop a second melta to pull it out of stagger immediately, but never engage with the mechanic outside of that
>>562732075>more majorisanother techmarine w
Maybe I'm just being a jew about it, but only getting 15 doritos (compared to 10 for normal) for the daily hard stratagem doesn't seem very proportional compared to how much tougher it is
>>562737708Trygon is up there with tyrant and primes for one of the top 3 bosses in the game imo.He stays out to combo often enough for me. I think they updated it a while back so he stays out more often though.Just make sure you have a tactical so you always have meltas, and get good at hitting him with them. If your squad are top tier melta snipers, you can chain stunlock him into multiple meltas and really rape him bad.Get good meleeing him too. The longer you can keep up with him and parry his combos without getting knocked over, the longer he'll usually stay out. Mainly just don't get greedy with gunstrikes, and watch out for delayed attacks. His tail whips are perfect dodgeable, and easier to PD than they look.I don't think you can PD his vertical dive, but you can iframe through it, so don't be afraid to stay up his ass.
>>562748217It's not. It's ridiculously disproportionate. You're playing on absolute+, in a co-op game designed around three players where like 99% of the playerbase has never even beaten a regular absolute. And that's on top of nerf modifiers just turning off essential mechanics like major sources of healing, major sources of damage, major sources of damage mitigation, or outright buffing enemies even further in many ways.Sometimes the hard weeklies aren't even worth it. And those pay out an extra 185.
>>562750428I rarely ever see my teammates parry/block the Trygon enough for it to perform either its blockable double talon swing or its unblockable reared up lunge.There's also an attack it likes doing when its burrowed where it sticks its tail out to do a single AOE shock attack that I always see done after a teammate is revived.
Blood Angels (Elite) Force Commander
Farming dailies seem like a hassle to me for its payout. I just do weeklies and rarely ever lacked for accolades.
>>562752071Yeah, at this point, hard dailies are just for f*n but even then those are becoming boring with how easy it's getting.
>>562752381Even then, some of these modifiers aren't even hard. They just sap the fun out of it, like the ones that decrease your ranged damage. Making things like the helldrake boss take longer isn't fun in any context.
>>562751986>That loincloth>Yellow eyes>Brass trimNo.
>try my hand at the weekly>a bit rough with the parry timing but still manageable>chaos spawn come in>spastic fucks are even worse now>the invincible enemy mechanic fucks me over when i can only damage one of them >no indicator for it either so my team doesnt know only they can damage itThese fucking russians seriously need to play their own game
>>562760482The indicator is the skull mark but I'm not sure if your teammates can see the skulls assigned to you since they'll only be able to see skulls assigned to them.I beat it first try so I haven't had a reason to go back and check.
>>562692934>ADS on middle mouseThat sounds awkward as shit.
One of the most simultaneously miserable and unfunny generals I've used. Is it just the crossover of obese, older and unhappy 40k fans? I know fat people are not happy people. /hd2/ at least funposts at times. /akg/ funposts. You guys are just miserable faggots. The fuck is wrong with you?
>>562760860>but I'm not sure if your teammates can see the skulls assigned to you since they'll only be able to see skulls assigned to themYou can only see your assigned enemy, and your teammates can only see theirs. They really should've made it to where all the enemies that only one person can kill are marked, and have them be marked by having the icon of your team's classes above them so everyone knows they're there and who their targets are. Really basic shit that Saber should've done but didn't.
>>562760860The problem is that you get no indicator that an enemy is marked for an ally until you hit or shoot them. Slavs couldn't code something like all enemies show up marked but have the enemy that is yours be colored red.
>>562765038Im off to the gym now. That said I don't actually play the game I just hang out here sometimes
>>562760482The dailies and weeklies are just RNG missions at this point.The devs also don't play anything above Substantial and Dmitri is probably playtesting on Average if not Minimal.
>>562765038To be fair the devs have completely wasted the potential of SM2 to fuck off and sell their other garbage horde shooters, as well as dropping most SM2 support for SM3 right after launch. Its hard not to be jaded, especially when every update clearly shows they do not play nor care about this game at all.
>>562780212>Sm3You idiots really think that's happening don't you?The logical conclusion of this concept was reached. There's nothing that can be added to an entire new game that can't be just tacked on to sm2. People screamed for sm2 for years and when they got it they got into it for like 2 years and quickly lost interest.Just admit this series has limited reach and (you) just like giving GW your money
>>562730814That's why I've been bashing my head into the stone wall of trying to make the Auto Bolt Rifle work. Even with ammo regain, the piece of shit still burns through it all long before I reach an ammo box, and if I try to scrounge around for drops, I end up brining in a wave that for sure takes the rest of it. I don't care if it steps on the toes of other weapons, buff it. It's supposed to be a holy weapon of human dominance, as much a symbol of the Astartes as their armor.
>>562782481>you really believe the thing they announced is happening?i'm sure you feel smart
>>562782481https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/glahjvsr/space-marine-3-is-officially-in-development/(You)
>>562750428Trygon is not more Kino than Imurah. Imurah 1 > Primes ~ Tyrant. The Primes would be higher if they didn't get bullied so hard with the right set up. Imurah is everything I wanted to see in a sorcerer fight. I love how his disk when he flies around actually warps the ground. He's got the skulls, seemingly opens a tear in time and space to bring the Volkite reactor from Machanus Divinitus into the arena, has shadow clones and fake out combos. Legit, they should've kept the game in the oven for another 2 years so they could've added more awesome fights.
>>562782725>>562782758>Yes I know Saber is notorious for lying, being cucked with restrictions, and missing deadlines >But THIS TIME will be different!Anon he's not going to charge. You are being abused
>>562783128>SM3 is coming>NO IT ISN'T>Here is proof its coming>WELL IT WON'T COME HOW YOU EXPECTDo you really think you saved face there? You didn't. Kill yourself.
>>562751986>Shoots you in the tummyAlso, uh, did we get the update on the updated schedule? We're out of Q1 and I don't see any Iron Hands stuff....
>>562783375>Things I never said Tard you can't can't keep a fucking roadmap for cosmetic dlcs.
Look at the squad. Tuff as fuck.
>>562783128>they're terrible at deadlines in this game they've got a skeleton crew>so that means they've out and out lied about starting development of the sequel, the game that they pulled all the crew to in the first placeGenius
i hate this fucking game
>>562783823>You idiots really think that's happening don't you?You are incredibly dumb.
>Want to make a black/tan set>Not a single tan color>Not even a slightly related brown I am so fucking tired of game devs ripping out basic functionality like a RBG wheel so they can pretend its content.
Why do you hate studded armor?
>>562795094>Ribbed for chaos pleasure
>>562795094Why are you wearing a Fist leg with Ultramarine colors?
>>562795341There's no Imperial Fists specific iconography on that knee guard, anon.
>>562798074I dunnoooooo, the lightning bolts seem pretty Fist specific.
>>562795094Really pisses me off that the lightning bolts don't appear on any other class when using that leg piece.
>>562791562it all started with hats in team fortress 2, eighty five years ago
>>562763875Eh, only if you're constantly switching between ADSing and meleeing, if you're just picking one or the other its not bad.
>>562808432>Eh, only if you're constantly switching between ADSing and meleeing, if you're just picking one or the other its not bad.yeah why would anyone be doing that
>>562809014Constantly meaning several times in a few seconds, spending 1.5 seconds shooting at something then knifing it in the gut is still easy enough
>>562798198Yeah but they look fuckin' dope.
>>562576832>they make individuals who are outright Adonises or bombshells that can woo the pants off of anyone in order to penetrate society's upper ranks.Why don't they just make hot men and women and just fuck everything that moves? Is there some downside to this other than in lore xeno hatred?
>>562623309This shit needs to go. I don't care how but they need to fix it.
>>562692934Yeah I can't either. Good thing I can just rebind my keys. Do console players not know that's a thing or something?
>>562808432I use MMB for grenades, and even then I'm considering changing it because holding it down to detonate melta bombs feels awkward.Space bar is my ADS button.
3 Chaos missions for the dailies, fuck that.
>>562756943It's the Elite mod Force Commander https://youtu.be/SlEZohJK8t8?t=186I just really like the DOW2 armor>>562783383Not sure, I don't really keep up.
>>562814692>Space bar is my ADS buttonwhat the fuck is your dodge?
>>562820462Ctrl
>>562821247fucking guitar players, man
>>562822281Pfffft yeah I wish I could say I made it beyond an amateur level of proficiency at the guitar. How far do the buttons on your keyboard sit apart? My pointing, middle and ring fingers sit comfortably on WASD while my pinky is on ctrl/shift and my thumb rests on the space bar. Feels fine to me.
if they add strong AoE melee weapons to assault, either through heroics or a new melee category, you're finally going to see assault take its place as best classliterally, if you put omnisian axe on assault right now every other class would cease to be relevant
>>562827052>if they add strong AoE melee weapons to assaultYou mean the power fist? Maybe the thunder hammer as well?
>>562827052>if they add strong AoE melee weapons to assaultbro, your thunderhammer and powerfist?
>>562827474>>562827492>thunderhammerextremely dated, not strong enough, a heroic that reduces the charge times and execution times of heavies would be about all that could save it>fistoutside of the perk for the ground slam, which is bad, it's cones, you want circles centered on the playerheroic chainsword double stomp after all the buffs is pretty close to what I'm talking about, it's good but it's not good enough
>>562827052As long as ranged units exist that assault can't deal with effectively he will never be the best class.
>>562827871bro, ur jetpack dash? ur multiple sources of ranged damage reduction?
>>562827871Powerfist>>562827824>it's cones,which is fine because the more threatening enemies come to you in bunches and the smaller ones get smote in a single following blow or are just fodder for ground pounds
>>562828169the more threatening enemies are packs of ranged tyranids, who spread out away from you the moment you approach them, and chaos in general, who strafe around you and teleport to all sides of youalso enemies that go for you while you are mid terminus fight, who never approach from the front because the terminus enemy is occupying that spacealso easier to get thropes with an AoE bubble than it is whatever the hell the fist has, it clearly has some sort of height limit
>>562828169nta but i hate how different weapons have different values for how many enemies get killed by a ground pound
>>562828370>who spread out away from you the moment you approach themWhich is fine because you can stand 12m away and still one shot all of them>and chaos in general, who strafe around you and teleport to all sides of youget one shot on the approach or even on spawn if you're standing correctly>also enemies that go for you while you are mid terminus fight, who never approach from the front because the terminus enemy is occupying that spaceAnd a big circle is no better when you're getting spine banked/plasma cannoned, you need to back into a better position no matter what which is naturally going to make shit funnel in>also easier to get thropes with an AoE bubble than it is whatever the hell the fist has, it clearly has some sort of height limitMost certainly not, it has a very clear cone you just stand further back.
>>562827052Assault is still garbage.
>>562807432Valve ruined gaming.
>>562827871Assault isn't bad but bulwark will always be better
>>562827871I will never forgive them for not using the campaign jetpack mechanics. A clear case of lazy game design, a cheap replacement, instead of saying "this shit is fun lets do what we have to to make it work". You can just tell these devs are soulless capitalist husks. May god have mercy on SM3 assault they'll probably remove the flying next and just give him a dash.
>>562827871It wouldn't be so bad if the dogshit enrage mechanic didn't exist and you could actually reliably stagger whatever you manage to close the distance on. Only a retard would think enraged Devourers are fun to fight.
>>562828979if you don't know how to set up his perks and play him, sureotherwise he's the most survivable class in the game with the ability to shit out infinite amounts of very high AoE damage
>>562831095Assault is garbage. Stop the cope.
>>562831139let me guess, you also think heavy is garbage
>>562831208No. And what you or I think is irrelevant. Assault is garbage objectively.
>>562831268damn bro, that sucks for you
>go heavy and take bonds of brotherhood on casual lethal run>tac goes down>pick him up>he grabs a medpac>dies with itHow do people still not understand wounds
>>562831419It does not, because I understand how the game works.
>Assault is just Vanguard/Bulwark but without the best heals in the gameUntil they remove healing or give assault a team heal its a bad pick.
>>562831558you understand that being able to shit out 150+ damage in a straight line every time you dodge, infinitely, dodging as many incoming attacks as you like back to back, as well as generating free armor literally whenever you do it, is somehow bad?do you know what the word "understand," means? it doesn't mean "my ignorance has made me confident in my position"
>>562831503Well assuming he's not a retard, and that is admittedly a big assumption, holding onto a medpack until you take damage is more efficient than just using it outright.
>>562831782You're flailing.
>>562831868lol weak reply, get curb stomped
>>562831926You're illogically fanboying a class you like and too insecure to admit its objectively weak. There is no valid reply. You're flailing.
>>562831782>you understand that shitting out infinite damage in a giant aoe with a flamer, infinitely, dodging as many attacks as you like back to back, never losing armor doesnt make heavy bad? Rinse repeat for all classes, ect ect
>>562831693>Vanguardvanguard is a shit class except for his team perk, assault is easily s tier now with all of his toolsthe only downside of him is his team perks and theyre not even bad, just okay
>>562832206et cetera
>>562832206>pyre on heavyno>classes that aren't assault dodging attacks back to backalso no
>>562832206>all classeswrong, not all classes
>>562832241Ah you're shitposting.
>>562832368>>562832330>>562832270You can play Assault without shitting up the thread samefag. Do not post your hastily edited paint reply pretending this isn't all you. Assault isn't good, Vanguard/Bulwark do the exact same thing but better. Cry as much as you want but that's a fact.
>>562832270>ESLDo not reply until you learn English.
>>562832553>paint>everyone who disagrees with me is the same person>vanguard being better at anything>fact
>>562832553How is Vanguard not totally mediocre outside of his busted team perk?
This head unironically fits the nigga chapter better.
>>562832553You caught me
>>562832764If you have to ask that then you haven't played it and you should start there.
>>562832679You are corrupting the language of your betters you silly little whore
>>562832764If van is mid then so is assault because its the same shit in a different diaper >aoe through executions>infinite armor from skill>brokenly op team heal that shouldnt exist >way better range>identical single target damage >better parry/dodge/block windows If youre playing with people vanguard wipes the fucking floor with that perk alone and if youre solo then its about the same
>>562832987I'm noticing that the guy you're arguing against provided an exact example of why he thought assault was strong, and every time you're asked why it's not or why vanguard is strong you don't actually talk about gameplay and instead deflect with insults.I'm sure this is just a coincidence and not at all indicative of your actual knowledge of the game.
>>562833132>No periodLike I said do not reply until you learn English.
>>562833329I didn't give you permission to reply to me in Latin script
>>562833287Because he's factually wrong and not asking for advice but attempting to demand people treat Assault as anything but worse than Vanguard or Bulwark. Plenty of people have outlined why, repeating what they say so he can ignore it is pointless.
cease feeding the obvious troll
>>562833287Assaultfags have been shitting up this general since release you should know by now they're retarded. How many times can you point out that assault brings nothing useful? How many times can you explain that sucking off a shit class, wont make it better or more fun? How many times do people have to point out how important team perks are in a coop game? It needs a buff or rework not toads licking boots because the devs threw them a rotten bone that barely fixed his issues.
>paying blue doritos for a curved chainsword skin that should have came with the white scar champion skinlame
>>562828895There are so many things that have to go right for this all to work whereas the other classes can insta delete all these problems while still being deadly at all ranges including melee.
Haven't played this game, I'm a firstborn only retardCan I larp as a non-primaris marine in this game? I specifically need the older style kneepads or I won't be able to play this game without genuine OCD problems
>>562834373You can get the helm but not the knees
>>562834414Fug
>>562832764>Tickle a head >Rope all over it>Nuclear explosion wipes out everything in a fifty mile radius Still one of the best horde clears imo.
>>562832241Vanguard can do everything Assault can do, but also has a primary weapon and 2 self healing options.
Been trying to play pvp as classes I don't usually play. Pvp class levels are my last grind outside of ordeals, which are basically cheevos, which turn me off cause they want me to do shit I simply don't want to do, like go replay the singleplayer campaign a bunch.And wow, they actually made bulwark drop his shield if you shoot it enough. One heavy can just pin you to death now.As if ground pounds, power whirls, krak grenades, shock grenades, vanguard grapple ganks, and getting pinched from any angle weren't enough weaknesses.At least shield rush is can be helpful for getting away or chasing someone down, when it doesn't instead jank out and switch your power sword mode in front of a firing squad, or auto aim into the wrong person and let your almost dead target get away.
>>562833767Assault may be shit as a team member, but the class can absolutely fuck. If I needed anyone to solo shit after everyone gets their asses kicked, I'd want it to be a competent Assault. At the very least, they can run away better than anyone else.
>>562837558How did you get the one where you have to spot a Lictor before it ambushes you? I swear they don't spawn in until they're about to leap. Haven't even gotten one by accident. Their cloak is also good enough to where I wouldn't be able to see them unless I was tip toeing forward a little bit at a time and scanning.
>>562837907Not him, but what I did was go to the one campaign mission where a lictor is scripted to hang out near the elevator in Servant of the Machine, and shot it until it fell of the chains and restarted the mission. I have all of the rewards already, so I have no reason to grind out the ones I'm missing
>>562838534Ah, I'm always thinking too honestly. Thanks. If I ever feel a completionist urge, I'll remember this.
Today a helbrute shot me with the charged plasma from across the map while I was chasing a term and I bounced against the wall and lost 99% of my hp + both armours. Absolutely retarded enemy.
>>562839598They lead their shots, if you run in a straight line it's always going to hit
>>562839723I couldn't see it + that shot somehow did more damage because I got stunned on a wall.
>>562835421He has the worst selection of primaries in the game. Even worse than techmarine.No access to even a power sword. Let alone the power fist, strongest melee weapon in the game. Chainsword, knife, and power axe are still better on him thanks to his free dash attacks and better melee perks.Jump pack can do virtually everything the grapple can do at this point, but way less janky, plus more. No fiddling around with the shitty reticle, and it's not even enemy permitting, so you can use the ground pound just to get around faster, like teleporting down big slopes, or getting over obstacles entirely.Armor on gunstrikes is much more useful than armor on grapples, and you need to use a prestige perk for the latter. Speaking of gunstrikes, assault has the best gunstrikes in the game, and hands them out like candy with the heroic fist. Inherent -50% contested hp fade is more valuable than his meme majoris heal perk too. Forcing yourself to sit through like 15 majoris executions to heal one frame trap sniper shot is cuck shit.Also phobos is gay. There I said it.
>>562837558Assault in PvP is a high skill, high reward classIt's a complete 180 compared to OperationsMeanwhile the Vanguard having shit primaries and a debuffed grappling hook is the worst class in that mode while in Operations he is mandatory especially in long and Chaos missionsTactical > Assault > Bulwark > Heavy > Sniper > Vanguard
>>562840338Having bad primaries is better than no primaries, Assault cuck lmao. Also, the melta is infinitely faster and more useful for horde clear than anything Assault shitters can manage. Have fun dying and scrambling for CHP regain while Vanguard remains immortal.
>>562840092Line of sight doesn't stop them leading the shot so you can overshoot cover, and the plasma ball leaves a trail that does damage so that's what killed you
>>562784028>decapitation
>>562841620You son of a bitch.
>>562842116Don't lose your head over his joke man. Be sure to ask for a hand if you need help staying calm
>>562841620Good one Brother
There's going to come a day when everyone who's ever insulted the Iron Hands gets killed with claw hammers.
>>562842116It's okay bro. Keep your head high and don't let this get to you. These go hand in hand with using the Internet.
>>562842116>>562842946Games Workshop would gladly demote or turn these shits into traitor if it meant turning the Black Templars as a First Founding chapter.
>>562843449They will also be killed with fucking hammers.
What if the Tyranids are actually shooting their cum at you
>>562840929You're not competing with assault's waaaay superior melee unless you specialize your primaries for horde clear or warrior/thrope sniping. Meanwhile assault can do both, even snipe thropes decently with his beefy secondary, or just fucking punch them out of the sky with a fist, OR rake them to death with the heroic power sword, plus rape the shit out of end runners like ravenors, lictors, and terminators.So enjoy mopping up fodder and desperately eating my execution sloppy seconds to get back 1% of your hp at a time while I save you from extremises.You're somewhere between a janitor and a heal slut.
>>562847102Can you 2 shut the fuck up?
>>562847102Why would the single most efficient extremis killer need help with extremises?
>>562847628You mean assault?
>>562850061Wouldn't it be Techmarine with Sniper Servo and Tarantulas?
Yes, yes. Brother against brother. Cousin against cousin. Father against son. Neighbor against neighbor.
>>562850340
>>562850675What's wrong? Are you still upset your boyfriend died? That was years ago, get over it
>>562851259The gods will not forget your many embarrassments.
>>562847546Yes.
>>562850178Yeah actually.
I hope they add some form of long term progression for siege mode.Atm my only reason to actually play is to do the weekly strat when ive maxed everything else.
>>562852567If you don't play the game for the simple love of the loop, you're ngmi.
>>562852714i need some milestone to reach for or i simply feel like im wasting my time, its illogical.
>>562852959You don't play ANY game simply because it's fun to play?
>>562853103cod zombies, but even that over the years has felt like a waste of time
>>562852567Once you've maxed out on blue doritos, requisition points and armoury data you're supposed to ignore the game until the next major update.There's literally no point in playing any longer.
>>562853339C'mon now, dude. Zombies hasn't been good since Black Ops 2. You're smoking Fent. Just enjoy spanking Terminus and Extremis hordes or popping heads as Sniper or one man army'ing a legion of Warriors as Bulwark.
>>562853535i dont mean modern slop zombies. I play only bo3 zombies ( with mods that add the maps from bo1/bo2)But anyway, i think i went too hard grinding everything when SM2 first came out and have to wait for SM3 to sate my autism again.
>>562853681I took one look at the gobble gum bullshit after I quit the campaign after the 30th "Train go boom" and quit. A shame what they did to BO3 because a synopsis of the story makes me rate it as perhaps one of the best scifi plots in video game history.
Fuck Yarrick, fuck Cain.
>>562852714NTA but I hit L25P4 on everyone last week and have spent the past few sessions just enjoying testing builds in bog standard Absolute runs. It helps that SM2 is a combo of my two favorite game genres but I learn something new every time I play. Is this game perfect? Fuck no, but taking a look at perks, builds, seeing how things mesh and sussing out what rakes I'm stepping on not only has made me better but it's genuinely enjoyable.A couple examples just for posterity.>Heroic Bolt pistol with full headshot perks makes for a good budget Carbine after a melee execute because of that massive 50% headshot boost it gets.>The basic relic balance knife is actually pretty good at mowing down Minoris because it has triple the cleave of all other options and works well with sniper due to exacting focus.>Tactical with Plasmas can combo plasma boost and the plasma guns universal "kill 7 enemies to make the heat stop" perks to wipe the entire wave if you get the stars to align and kill seven minoris in two shots.>Block Knife and Power Gladius may as well be called Carnifex B Gone with how consistently you can stack adrenaline or three perfect dodges on those things, making up for one of Sniper's bigger weaknesses. But don't use Block Knife on Sniper.
I only really enjoy playing Bulwark, what does this say about me?
>>562859135you need ranged immunity and full heals on tap to be able to play this gameunless, of course, you're shield bash build, in which case it says you're gay, like big gay, massive bad dragon dildos in the ass gay
>>562859561>ranged immunityBulwark has a bigass shield and less ranged damage perks >full healsUse the heal banner instead of gay shield bash or worse, the damage banner
I take the heal banner if there's no Vanguard with Unmatched Zeal
wheres the hotfix these fucking reatrds said they were working on?
>>562867090Just a quick special hotfix operation, about two weeks should do it
>>562867167>about two weeks should do itNonsense, we could reach anon's computer in two-three days
>>562867090It will be released along new patch once the root of the discord between playerbase and developers is removed!
>>562853681You got good somewhere along the grind, didn't you?See if you can carry people through absolute, 15 waves of hard siege, or whatever the current weekly is on hard. See if you can do it with 0 incapacitations and stack up those sweet yellow scoreboards.You've hoarded all this experience and maxed out/ultra optimized classes/gear. Why not finally use it all, flex out, and be a John Warhammer?
This mission is boring.
>>562867167two weeks is always a good plan trusting length of time.
>>562873243It absolutely rapes my framerate most of the way through. The only mission that's anywhere near as bad is the Bio-titan fight on Termination.
I just want the curved chainsword and greatsword
>>562841620
managed to do the hard strat before the reset, it was hellish with randoms first guy ragequitted as soon as it started and we got a helbrute spawn
>>562840338>He has the worst selection of primaries in the game. Even worse than techmarine.Imagine trying to shit on two classes and being outright wrong on both.
>>562837759>If I needed anyone to solo shit after everyone gets their asses kickedThen literally any class will do.
>>562906376>outright wrong???In terms of primaries, it goesHeavy > Sniper > Tactical > Techmarine > Vanguard > assault + bulwark
>>562908202Do you just not know how to use a melta or something
I’m new. How does heavy compare to the other classes? I’ve been playing him but haven’t gotten around to the others yet
>>562909363>melta rifle>better than accuracy bolt rifle>plasma rifle>or heroic heavy bolt rifle
>>562910345Yes, it's better than all those weapons because it not only does damage to lots of things at once, it also has its own ammo regen
>>562910260Completely differently and you either love it or hate it
>>562910549Except the part about having zero range so its not only worth less than a good melee weapon but also actively works against vanguard's primary build which requires softening up targets at range
>>562910752>has a perk that increases range damage after grappleOh you're just retarded
>>562910260Best primaries in the game, but poor ammo perks, so you gotta conserve more than other classes.Deceptively strong with melee if you spam stomps, especially if you spec into them. Obviously the other classes are better with melee due to having an actual melee slot though.Being able to ignore ranged damage with your shield can make you a very good ranged tank. Being able to just stand in front of a firing squad of snipers and devourers, or soulreapers and just blow them away with plasma shots or something is very valuable. Very good at horde clear.Can have trouble in high difficulties or especially siege due to the high chances of multiple melee extremises rushing them down, unlesa you're using the heroic bolter, but the heroic bolter isn't his strongest primary, and his primary is his bread and butter and how he shines imo.
>>562910669>>562911236Thanks for the run down. From playing I’ve noticed the heavy bolt rifle is pretty bad, and the plasma pretty damn good. What heroics should I prioritize getting?
>>562911236You don't need to conserve with the heavy bolter and multimelta, especially the former. Just pick the accuracy version for the heavy bolter and the ammo version and the 2 ammo regen perks for multimelta. As long as you kill 5+ shitters with the multimelta you'll always gain +1 ammo.It's the heavy plasma and pyrecannon that has shit ammo economy and shit magazine size. Saber needs to fuck off and let players decide which melee they can use (with varying effects) and double/triple every gun's ammo counts. The Heavy shouldn't be starving for ammo boxes/crates at all.
>>562906836Sniper and Vanguard are made of paper, Tac and Heavy are decent, but depending on the Strat or if it's Chaos, they're only slightly better off, Bulwark can turtle up and eat Assault Cannons while also charging banner (I did this one time and it was comical watching my banner get recharged instantly by like 4 Terminators hosing my shield), Techmarine can probably put up the best fight if he has a Turret nearby, but Assault can not only gain invincibility on his jump pack, he can also use it to fly away. A Sniper can still get clipped even when cloaked, and he's cooked the moment it goes off if he hasn't put enough distance between him and the enemy. Assault also has a better dodge that hurts enemies, so even if he's just playing passively, he never needs to leave defense to be offensive.
>>562911682HBR is a fine gun, it just doesn't make any sense on Heavy. If you're going to play other classes, the heroic fencing knife is a must have, the heroic bolt sniper is okay if you really want it, the thunder hammer is great, some people swear by the power fist, everything else is whatever.
>>562912423Sniper and Vanguard are the two classes with the highest survival lmao
>>562913337Play the game.
>>562913658You are immensely retarded
>>562913709Ooh, haven't heard that one before. Play the game.
>>562910894>>has a perk that increases range damage after grappleWow, you named a shit combo, requiring more resources to do less damage than a powerfist while offering less defense than not only other, actually good classes, but also less than the actual builds vanguard actually has
Why are Assault players so fucking dumb?
I just jumped into a Decap and we got instantly jumped by a Lictor, a Ravener, a Zoey, a horde of gaunts, AND a fucking Carnifex IN THE BOMB DEPOT. How the FUCK are you supposed to play in there with all 3 of the Rushdown Nids, plus the one that ignores cover, all in a tight room?
>>562911682HBR is high C or low B, its alright but will never rise above mediocre due to its very nature.Heavy plasma is his best gun, its heroic is completely braindead simple but the ammo or charge speed variants still wipe half a dozen majoris at once from range if you can manage the downside. Multi-melta is really good for waves but you lose out on single target damage which leaves you vulnerable against terminus and extremis. Accuracy heavy bolter is a very good allrounder if you can nail the headshots (and even if you can't sometimes), but is more vulnerable to being rushed down and its horde clear is very linear. Pyrecannon is still a flamer, but its worse than tactical's flamer since you have zero range when not in heavy stance but worse melee and no auspex to boost it. Still amazing boss damage though.Heavy really has to manage his positioning and target prioritization. Don't be afraid to spec into stomps, its a gigantic AoE damage that one or two shots minoris and can semi-reliably stagger majoris. If you get a parry off heavy stance and shoot them if you're able, it'll do more damage and get you the execute faster than trying to gunstrike all of them.Heroic heavy plasma is his best gun for levelling all around but if you don't bring it get a plasma pistol secondary so you can insta stagger reinforcement calls or splash 3-4 majoris to soften them up
>>562914307spam executes and pray that nothing hits you after the animation, or just die
>>562914616It was over in seconds. Even with us getting revives off.
>>562914307Kill them all first, then arm the bombs.
>>562915790A scholar of the Codex Astartes right here, boys.
>>562914460Thanks, that’s very helpful. I’d wondered why some of the gun perk trees had melee perks, glad to hear they’re actually of some use on him
>>562916402Melee heavy is a bit of a meme still but they're still very useful for staggering shit and saving ammo. Having a single point for a 40% melee boost is worth it so you can do one stomp and instantly clear every gaunt around you so they don't fuck up your parries against a warrior.
What's the best Tech primary, anyway?
>>562914307I had same but a big floaty instead of carnifex. He died in one volley from my shoulder boi. Can't relate we cleared it and finished the mission.
>>562910260Dunno what that other guy is ranting about, Heavy never has ammo issues. Its good, but it takes a long time to get the prestige perks to not make melee absolutely worthless.
>>562922485The new heavy/nade launcher.
>>562912423This is 100% a skill issue.
>>562910260>I’m new. How does heavy compare to the other classes?The only class that is bad is Assault. Every other one brings something useful to the team and can easily deal with any situation.
>>562911709>It's the heavy plasma and pyrecannon that has shit ammo economy and shit magazine size.things that never happen for 500, alex
>>562924332you don't play the game if you think the heavy plasma doesn't have ammo problems so off yourself and spare us all the trouble
>>562924660it's the same shitposter trying to get a riseignore him
>>562924332Its the Assaultfag shitposting his retarded takes just ignore him.
>>562924660Skill issue
>>562924660>you don't play the game if you think the heavy plasma doesn't have ammo problemsYou get 91 shots with the Relic version and have two ways to get ammo back, one is using your side arm and the other when you hit 30% HP (which happens a lot more than you think, which you then just gunstrike/execute back up to). If you're running out of ammo you're not using your melee or side arm enough on less important situations.
How do I upgrade a weapon beyond the "Relic" level?
>>562927278You mean get a heroic weapon variant? Accolades shop, it's on the right of the armoury. You need 300 blue triangles per weapon though.
>>562927278you don't need to level up a weapon to get the heroic version tho. On the contrary, it's a common tactic to use the heroic variant to level up a weapon that starts off bad (bolt sniper ie)
https://youtu.be/VDYoJBRowYk?si=Gcqm0yso4L2FK621https://sm2meleecalc.usSome dude developed a melee damage calculator. It's in beta right now but more features are in the works. Might be worth putting in the OP.
I am convinced these niggers are explicitly programmed to frametrap you with other extremis or a terminus.
Exfiltration remains a noob filter>splitting off in different paths...then eating shit from far away>trying to kill everything when items drop aplenty when there's the rare wave>not knowing where the batteries and charging stations areA Neurothrope with a bajillion Warriors is pretty hell desu.
4 hour maintenance during prime hours (8pm - 12am) tomorrow???Hosting Aus hard weekly + dailies: 3B6AC
>>562934473already beat the weekly but will join if you're still down one man
>>562934567Don't have anyone but I can do the dailies now and the weekly some other time.
>>562922485I prefer the Occulus. The heroic HBR is overrated if you ask me; it's inaccurate as fuck and you only get so many grenades, while Techie can get a lot out of the Occulus with his perks.
>>562922485Occulus (since it has an additional +10% damage after using your class perk) > accuracy version bolter (the one with 2x headshot multiplier) > heroic HBR > scoped HBR > Plasma IncineratorThe Techmarine is possibly the only class who doesn't mind wielding the inferno and/or plasma pistol over the cookiecutter heroic heavy bolt pistol build
>>562933630extremis and terminus movesets were designed under the assumption that there can only be one present on the screen, that's why they didn't even bother plugging them in the slot system. their behavior was never adjusted. THE FUCKING CHAOS SPAWNS however...
>>562934783>>562934567still around?
>enemies drop items>there are still idiots going up the ramp inside the factory instead of walking right after the second dropdown>Tacticals with Aligned Aim instead of Secure Stockpile while using the Pyreblaster>Snipers with the heroic bolt sniper rifle and eating shit because they ran out of ammo
>>562936878Yeah, noone has joined yet.
>>562936878i will join if you need help with the weekly and still need a third goydon't really play dailies
Does the second heroic knife do damage for every parry or am I being bullshitted by the description?
>>562936997I just got back from my easter trip and need a game with the boys
>>562937043I mean, I notice the ttk in between parries and swings to be generally lower when I use it
>>562937043dont worry about it))))))))
The chat is so fucked, I can never see you say you're done so its like you just randomly dc.
>>562937403i am home from work i am able to join in for any game or two
>>562936013>>562935879>OculusI guess that makes sense. It feels the most versatile and doesn't have the shit-for-damage of the ABR or the trash firerate of the BR.Bolters in general need a rebalance.
>>562948108>rebalanceThe justification is that most enemy heads (barring chaos) are so big that chaining headshots isn't too much of an ask which also means bodyshots don't do nearly enough damage.
Is the DLC for this game all cosmetic or does it have additional character classes/modes like the WH tide games?
>>562953672I find when I play sniper that Chaos head hitboxes in general are wonky as fuck.>Chaos spawns are spastic and very difficult to hit>Rubrics seem to not have a head hitbox around the back of the head, shots from behind or oblique angles have a good chance of being bodyshots or no-sells>Sorcs always seem to have one more shield>Terminators obviously can only be headshot frontally (this is fine)
>>562953857It's all cosmetic but drip makes you a better gamer.
>>562953857Completely cosmetic.The one new class was 100% free but is currently lacking any meaningful cosmetic customization, an issue the devs said they'd address in the upcoming patch.
>>562913781>he doesn't know about purificationThis me dragging you into my rape den.
>>562953935Yeah hitting headshots against chaos feels more like your regular FPS game aiming at a noticeably smaller target.Not to even mention which fucking head a given spawn variant has and having to deal with Rubrics/Sorcs who like to teleport.
>still no ability to have different perks per loadout slot
Back for another weekly.
>>562964292Relic Blade might be fun. It'll be fitting for all the DA/BT/IF doods.Problem is that I don't forsee Vanguard getting it which means that he once again gets screwed.
>>562964292an assault using this is going to hard carry people itt and they're going to just pretend they can't see it
>>562964554It'll be fun if its heavy attacks are any good because light attacks are garbage outside of the heroic fist and AS stacks.
>>562964292I get that Bulwark would have it, but two handed weapons on Bulwark seem a bit retarded since it removes like, the only reason Bulwark is a Bulwark.
>>562966950>two handed weapons on Bulwark seem a bit retarded since it removes like, the only reason Bulwark is a Bulwark.Spamming shock zones with the Heroic hammer and Bulwark perks is pretty fun though.I wonder what other classes are going to get it. Assault, maybe Techmarine? I don't foresee Tactical (because tactical is ostensibly a ranged class) or Vanguard (because Saber hates the class and won't rework it), and obviously Heavy and Sniper won't get it.
>>562966950Maybe introduce a limited swordblock where you can deflect most projectiles but can't against red indicator ranged attacks like Rubric shots and Zoan orbs
>>56296764050% damage reduction instead of 100% would make more sense and probably be easier
>>562977675We don't have daemon princes but the model for the Lord of Change was pretty damn neat in the story. I think Imurah's disc and the Lord of Change's claw attack is the only thing they haven't repurposed in Operations yet.
PTS this month?
Anyone lurking here that wants to give the hard weekly stratagem a go?Code: VK2EX
>>562966950Shock hammer on Bulwark is worth losing the shield for. You're throwing down lightning everywhere you go.
>>562953672>are so big that chaining headshots isn't too much of an ask which also means bodyshots don't do nearly enough damage.This is such an illogical train of thought that the devs have stuck to like a dogma. I can't think of any other coop pve game where headshots are the ONLY viable method to kill enemies at range. Its incredibly limiting and incredibly boring to play. Instead of headshots being a nice skillful bonus reserved for great players, its made piss easy for everyone all the time because its the only way to damage enemies. And they haven't learned their lesson, because their new flop Commando game does this too.
>>562995886its really odd because WWZ the basic common infected are mulched by body shots on every difficulty
>>563005564And SM1 wasn't like this either. Whoever the lead designer is is poisoning these products with their backwards logic.
I sometimes wonder how people walk and breathe at the same time
>>563010027Why does everyone else get games that let them get impressive spreadsheets, but every time I play, I this shit? Are you guys farming for better numbers?
Will the curved chainsword be a skin we purchase or unlock? Is there precedent for either? We already have a White Scars chapter pack that's a champ skin + additional colors.
>>563013460not really, i just go through a mission normally and kill all the shit i see lest bullshit happen and it come to reinforce a wavei don't stick around and farm anything i just get neuron activation when i see a group of shit waiting to get stomped
>>563010027i play wow m+ in retail and a classless tbc private server and i quickmatch ruthless / absolute ops and the sheer level of retard you run into regularly is just astouding
>>563016871Playing Turtle WoW made me hate the Chinese with a burning passion. I will never forget trying to tank Uldaman with three chink DPS players pulling fucking everything for no reason. It's like they take pride in sucking shit at the game and not being able to communicate in English.
>>563016871>playing wowfaggot.
>>563013460It's all at the discretion of the director that chooses when it wants to fuck your shit up with massive waves. Completely random sometimes but most often when niggas want to stay behind for no reason.
>>563013460The Minoris are score paddersThe fact your Tactical teammate only has a 52 melee score meant that nigga was spamming execute every chance he got
>>563016871>plays wow>calls others retards
>>563013460If you want to score pad it’s very easy, don’t use finishers and try to kill all minoris before the majoris for nids. Instead of finishers keep hitting them in melee or ranged to kill them, depending on the stat you want to pad, like wise avoid gunstrikes. The synaptic shock kills don’t give you more damage so soam aoe to kill off minoris before moving onto majoris. Playing like this is very uninteresting and proves absolutely nothing about one’s skill, but if you want big number this will get you over 40k a game with the average random assuming they don’t wipe the minoris out too quickly.
>>563021358I'm going to become... THE PAPER PRIMARCH!
Any leaks with the new patch?
>>563018683>that nigga was spamming execute every chance he goti don't even get it outside of emergencies, executes are slower than just hitting them more
What is it with people in this game that not only can't help themselves but outright refuse it when offered to everyone's detriment? Or if I tell someone that I've got unmatched zeal on and to let someone else take the execute they insist I'M the retard? What is in the water that makes the average sm2 player so self-absorbed and yet so incompetent?
>>563029406Sometimes I get lost in the sauce and forget to give executes to teammates when needed.
>>563029406Forgive me. Even those in service to the Machine God are given to bouts of bloodlust.
>>563033262>>563034176the fact that you guys have any sense of accountability whatsoever ensures I'm not worried about you
>>563029406>dude with a mortal wound and no health refusing to pick up a guardian relic or restorative stim>dies in the next engagement
>maintenanceWell I guess this will give me a chance to go collect the dataslates and finally 100% this game.
>>563045131Or you could go outside.
>>563047158But it's dark out there.
>hard weekly with a friend>3rd player is some random assault>dragging far behind the entire match for no reason as we clear out most enemies already>we think its whatever, he can do what he needs to do>get to the lift section clearing a big group of warriors and starting the lift event> they guy that is assault just got out of the fucking building that usually has the ammo crate>lift arrives and we get in pinging him to get his ass over as he is still not even halfway there>suddenly all hell breaks lose, double zoan with lictor spawn and something like 30-40 warriors come crawling out of the walls>get swarmed in the lift but we manage to hold it as its a good chokepoint>the nigger assault GOES FUCKING DOWN INSTEAD OF JUMPING INTO THE LIFT>tell my friend we are booting him as we are stuck and we cant get through the wall of majoris in time to get him backYoure a fucking assault, just jump into the fucking lift what is wrong with these people for fucks sake, it wasnt even a console player.
>>563016871im on ascension too, i havent played it a while because tbc really boring compared to wotlk and ive been meaning to do the plainstalker trial for the thunderhorn whistle
Those patch notes overwhelmed mehttps://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/381-hotfix-12-3-patch-notes
>>563055957wegh
>>563055957>>563056490
>>563055957Brothers, is this real?
>>563029406>Accidentally execute an extremis because my situational awareness is shit and the Vanguard was right behind me needing it because of mortal.>Next Zoan downed I ping the Vanguard.>Bulwark runs over and takes it.>:(
>>563054943Yeah. I was gonna post them yesterday, but didn't bother once I saw how big it was.
>>563016871>wow retailEwwwwww.
Tfw no sororita gf
tfw no futa sororitas gf
tfw no trap sororita gf (male)
Has anyone heard of the Night of A Thousand Rebellions? I was curious as to whether or not the Tanith were still kicking around in the 42nd Millennium and I stumbled across this event from 6th edition. Apparently, across the entirety of Segmentum Pacificus, Chaos uprisings took place in 999 M.41. I just wanted to let my few Gaunt's Ghosts Chads know that, possibly, the war that spanned over 16 books, 45 years, in which countless men and women of the Tanith First and Only fought and died, had all of it's gains lost in a measly 200 years. I can't believe it, honestly. Might we hope for a Gaunt's Ghosts reboot? Maybe the Sabbat Worlds themselves are fine and it's just the rest of Pacificus that's fallen? I mean, last we saw, Sek was dead, Sabbat was alive, and the Ghosts had been elevated to a proper honor guard position with Gaunt being made War Master. So there's no way they just rolled back all the gains made by the Regiment, right? Double spoiler, fuck Celestine. Tired of seeing that slag everywhere.
Average brainpower seems to at least understand that you shoot the eyes and insta-delete the sorcerer at the end of Obelisk but I was curious if any other Extremis enemies spawned in that final section because that sequence hardly lasts that long in my recent runs.
Another thunderhammer heroic, wtf? They're also adding a commissar (my fav) but it's only to siege... not even sure if he'll get a new model.
>>563103747They said they want to do two for every weapon
>>563098053I’ve seen a few terminators there before
>>563105950well why don't they start with ONE for every weapon?
>>563108863You're also getting a 3rd Bulwark champion before other classes even get their 2nd btw :^)
>>563110025
When are they making the hive tyrant, trygon and vortex beast regular terminus spawns
>>563110414Pretty sure that they aren't coded to function outside of their arenas so it would take extra work these devs won't do. I'm still 100% certain the new Terminator Sorceror is just gonna be a reskinned Imurah and nothing else.
>>563110414Primes feel like the only ones that would actually work as a random terminus spawn, with those three being actually interesting setpiece bosses in a way the Heldrake isn't
>>563110667I would be okay with this. He's in Terminator armor though, so I'm hoping he has unblockable Assault Cannon flurries that punch through the Bulwark's shield and I hope he has homing rockets that snipe Assault out of the sky even with invincibility. Oh, and make sure he can see through cloak as well. Lastly, I want him to be able to resurrect all Rubricae, even Terminators, and bring them back enraged so they can't be staggered.
>>563111286I think he should be able to give Spawn a small ranged attack as well
>>563111430He should be able to turn dead Chaos Spawn into a Vortex Beast in an uninterruptable ritual.
>>563111430Actually itd be really fun if he could summon...>>563111901 beat me to it
>>563112285He should also be able to summon Tzeentch in his entirety onto the field and make the player kill themselves from the sheer weight of unholy knowledge being forced into their skulls as they gaze upon the unshielded Warp in all its glory, their soul mutated 1000 different ways across 1000 different realities in 1000 different time lines.
The new sorcerer should crash your game and wipe your hard drive
They should get the demons souls attack that drains your levels when it hits you, a full prestige.
>>563110667Imurah is just a named lesser sorcerer with a Tzanigger discA Terminator sorcerer is just unnecessary tedium by devs who don't even play Chaos missions and have lashed out at fans who mostly stick to Tyranid ones
is there any reason not to use tact's fart on execute?
>>563115904The other options are pretty poor, and the explosion has very high potential.
so is the curved chainsword going to be a different playstyle or is it just an appearance change for the chainsword?excited as a white scars fan.
>>563116219One of the new heroics will be a chainsword so it could be that
>>563115904I can see an argument for the one that stops reinforcement calls, but getting a gas chamber every 90 seconds is too useful to skip
>>563115904I take the last perk so I can make 1/3 Biovores instantly die.
>>563116219My guess is that this one will be Fencing since the other chainsword is Balanced
Speaking of tact, do all the Auspex buffs apply when you parry an enemy and have that passive? Wouldn't it make sense to stack every single one and just parry bosses to keep it up permanently?
>>563029406>What is in the water that makes the average sm2 player so self-absorbed and yet so incompetent?Because its 40k. While I love the setting its filled with retards. Like real retards. Socially and mentally completely gone. Its a shame but thats the nature of this being a /tg/ setting.
>>563116436>incapacitating an entire drove of devourer warriors at onceIt still weirds me out why the explosion occurs as you enter execute instead of AFTER like it used to
>>563116947No only the base auspex, they used to and it was obscene but they rightfully adjusted it. Still very strong
>>56302940640k attracts retards and 3rdies like flies to shitone would hope that this means they never go above their baby difficulty so they can keep doing the powerfantasy of killing a single warrior but nope
>>563029406people usually feel shamed for playing bad and refuse stims and stuff
>>563117569It adds a little bit of timing and positioning to utilizing it, so I'm not mad. Now you don't just spam E, you have to get into the right spot. You might even say it's desirable since you can trigger it from inside a group while you rush to someone outside it, or maybe you run into a group and THEN trigger it.
I don't understand how people enjoy the wings of flame build. Commitment doesn't proc on like 60% of attacks that should be considered a dodge, let alone a perfect dodge. Leaves me out to dry with no charges when it actually matters.
>>563126402It's very active and feels cool as fuck when you pull it off.
>>563126402its literally just to style on the ai
>>563129597>why do you still play this game?the game:
>>563115904Missions with the friendly fire stratagem.
>>563129714yeah the game is still fun
With Reinforced Cranium, headshots not dealing any additional damage, do they just remove the headshot damage bonus or the hit box for heads entirely? If enemies are weaker, can I just rock the HBS anyway?
>>563130404Using a bolter with that modifier is just griefing yourself, use a melta/plasma or melee.There is no form of compensation, headshots just do normal damage and you dont get anything from headshot perks.I honestly think that this strategem makes it way easier, as a heavy with plasma you just mow through everything due to the hp reduction.
>>563131348I'm so fucking sick of using Plasma on Heavy. It's boring. So the Bolt Sniper doesn't refund rounds? Waste of a Stratagem. I just wanna hit headshots. It's so fun. It's a dopamine rush every time I land one.
>>563131458darting in an out of the shadows as sniper feels like you've earned a victory vs mindless heroic plasma spam
Bro, FUCK Reliquary.
>>563129597This is no longer Space Marine, just play Soulslop if this is what you want.
>>562517259>Thoughts on the tech-marine?As someone who prefers to play with bots, I like his kit alot because it saves me some hassle of dealing with the bots on higher difficulties.
I really like when terminators just appear 10 feet in front of you and shoot you to death. It's a fun game mechanic
>>563136936shouldve played heavy
>>563136936its just another thing to log mentally when playing chaos: gotta have a spare dash/grapnel/cloak/halo charge ready in case I get killed to death (unlucky, tactical)
Is there any amount of dick I can give her to make her stop doting on Roboniggers or am I doomed to be eternally cucked by clankers?
>>563141532retard
>>563142031I'll take that as a "no" unless my name is Koleda.
>>563141532This is a Techmarine thread bucko
>>563142125no, youre in the wrong place, retard
>>563142031>>563142161I realize my mistake now. I've got multiple threads open. Thankfully, none of you will know who the Zenless Zone Nigger is hiding amongst you. It's me, Skagwatcher, sorry :(
>>563142273this is like the third time you've done this, lock in son
>>563142594You're thinking of the AC6 anon.
>>563142273fucking lies i've never touched a gacha in my lifenow posting in the 4x general or /twg/ you can catch me slipping
Ausgods around to kill bugs to death?
>>563096020Is there a cutoff point where you should stop with the series? Last book I read was guns of tanith were Bragg gets shanked
watching over console babbies from the shadows has been spiritually rewarding tonight
TZ3W6 doing the weekly for Ausgawds.>>563161172
>>563163118Did you win?
>>563165859yep it was a pretty brutal slaughter, would recommend!
>>563165859Infinigger Venom Cannons, Barbed Stranglers and Devourers, so no.
>>563166941I mean we didn't win the daily because it was gay and cringe
>>563163118Fucking love when this fucking happens for zero fucking reason.
>>563167174This btw.
>>563166941repost code then
RIGF9 - Ausgawd Siege
>>563167591Expired
>>563167717Someone joined, sorry m8
>>563166941It's so fucking gay. Nids feel like chaos now that they increased the ranged warrior spawn rate, except I'd rather fight rubrics than ranged warriors. They're harder than extremis if they group up or enrage.It's a shame too, since this weekly would've been fucking awesome if it was mostly bone swords and whips.
oh well just post codes if you need help beating the weekly
happy happy joy joy
>>563171168assault?
>>563174623Tactical. It was just one hiccup in many awesome waves however.
sniper look out!!!!uncharged plasma shot tactical to the rescue!!!!
>like white scars knife>can never use it with the champ skinonly one that got fucked over like this for some reason
