Melty Edition>News:Patch 8: https://baldursgate3.game/news/the-final-patch-new-subclasses-photo-mode-and-cross-play_138Larian's next game trailer: https://youtu.be/VxzyVeAG00w?si=ECYrhOXC82uBkG7sBG3 HBO show: https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/fantasy/baldurs-gate-tv-series-twist-newsupdate/>Wiki:https://bg3.wiki>FAQ:>Q: How often should I long rest?>A: Many companion and romance interactions occur when long resting. Some early lower priority camp scenes can also be missed if higher priority ones are queued. To advance companion quests or romances, make sure to long rest often.>Q: Underdark or Mountain Pass?>A: Either, or both. It's recommended to clear both on higher difficulties for the experience and loot. Both connect to the same Act 2 map.>Q: Is The Dark Urge essentially "Tav+"?>A: Yes. You get additional content, BUT there are points where, if you've chosen to resist the Urge and/or don't complete quests the "right" way, you'll have to pass additional checks to avoid losing companions.>Q: Are there any consequences to consuming tadpoles?>A: No, for the most part. However if you've consumed any tadpoles, there will later be a DC 21 Wisdom check to reject the Astral-Touched Tadpole, which affects your appearance if consumed.>Q: Should I enable Karmic Dice?>A: Karmic Dice will avoid streaks of low rolls, both for you and the enemy. It is recommended to disable it if you're specializing.>Polls:>Romance: https://strawpoll.com/NMnQ5kJXYn6>Race: https://strawpoll.com/kjn18WPzeyQ>Class: https://strawpoll.com/eNg69DKKjnA>Companions: https://strawpoll.com/bVg8o8l3VnYPrevious thread: >>562323463
who the heck is mazzy?
Reminder to read every single weird book from Thay that you find.Szass Tam is based and would never lead you astray.
>>562538410>>562538392ooooh no wonder I had no idea who that was...>>562538513>t. shovel
>>562538410Bg2 companion. She is a Halfling who wants to be a paladin but at the time only humans could be paladins in dnd.
>>562538609>She is a Halfling who wants to be a paladin but at the time only humans could be paladins in dnd.sounds peak, bg3 needed more grounded characters like her
>>562538584she has a cute soft voice uwu
thread themehttps://youtu.be/2vTKmVvyNRc?si=T4NqAv4S-Sduwlnh
Gorion's Ward once said:I am excited for Divinity Idle Champions of the Forgotten Realms is an official Dungeons & Dragons tm game.Minthara is canonically 150 years old, pansexual and neutral evilI collect barrels and throw them at every boss including MintharaMinthara did not watch Viconia leave in her childhoodMinthara is the throat goatI respect all women but MintharaIf you romance Minthara you are a horrible personIf you romance Astarion you are a great personI ascended AstarionI romanced ascended AstarionI play with lots of mods onI fucked Halsin and Shadowheart at the same time and loved itShadowheart is right not to use her birthnameShadowheart is not chaotic evilShar is neutral evilGale was groomed by MystraI play sorcererI camp castYou can't Mayrina's brothers' corpsesKarlach is okay for using soul coinsWyll is a real characterI sympathized with KethericI play male TavI love dragonborns, halflings, gnomes and dwarves
Gorion's Ward once said:Incest is cool as long as you're godspawnInstall the Imoen Romance mod
>>562539218truth supernova
>>562539372why did she copy Astarion's top part
Froge
>>562540339>you know what's better than a fade to black sex scene>TWO fade to blackthanks swen..........
>>562540410>you know what's better than a fade to black sex scene>seeing clawed tiefling fingers get stuck up your bum before the fade outSwen......................
>>562540593Peglach
>>562538609Looks a bit like Becky Lynch from WWE
>>562540410>disembowelment? A-ok>sex scenes with any detail? Oh, we can’t have that
>>562540593KarlaaaAAAAAAGH! Why’d you do that?!
>another non pastebin OP>more apathy from the userbase to not use this incorrect thread
>>562541062its a 4chan thread bro
>>562541050next long rest she'll use her tail>>562541062oh my god nobody cares
the frog the bat & the bear
>>562541793Say no more, crazy alien lady. Let’s smash.
>>562541257She’s so baby faced without the war paint.
what computer roles are we playing today /bgg/?
>>562530604Alas, your patter recognition failed.>>562541690>>562541364>>562541257Lae'zel looks way cuter without her warpaint and heavy makeup.
>>562542225and yet beautiful in a different way without the eyeliner and war paint
>>562539372
>>562542802>Alas, your patter recognition failedthat's the joke I was imitating him
Gorion's Ward once said if you haven't beat BG2 you shouldn't play BG3.
>>562543131I tried to many times but never got past the first hour I just can't play these old CRPGs, I got no issue playing old JRPGs though
>>562543131I am playing it now, its good >>562543504me
>>562543630a homosexual?
>>562542820No doubt. She’s cute. It’s just a funny contrast. Shows how hard she tries to look scary.
>>562538238has anyone ever tried to eat a spider either fried or cooked?
have you guys ever heard the n word
>>562545819Neogi?
Is there a website or something where I can put in my builds like each piece i have and stuff? I like keeping track of it but it's getting tiresome keeping giant lists for everyone. I feel like I have some pretty good shit going on though. If not ill just keep track of it normally.Also god damn sometimes these dice are brutal the dice be like oh i see you have a +14 bonus haha after +14, u rolled a 16>>562545643i think it makes you invulnrable or someshit i dont remember i used one during raphael fight but i didnt pay attention and it was a waste because he didnt attack me directly>>562538034there's no fixation thats a you problem, i simply said its cringe and retarded, which it factually is. Thats the beginning and end of it. Side note why are we spamming 50 posts when the other thread isn't dead yet
>>562546126yeah that's the one
Lae'zel is SO FUCKING BORIIIING
>>562547103Kek
the dye system in this game is frustrating sometimes >dye one piece of armor red and bone white>it becomes red with white >dye another piece with same dye >it's all white ree
it's really cool how people start actually discussing things about the game and then a new thread gets made and its just 50 laezel spamposts and no one talking about anything that's really cool and awesome
not as cool as meta commentary tho
>>562547857By all means, discuss something.
spamming posts of some retard from the game is still spamming the thread is dead because you are a nigger
>>562548316And you’re contributing so very much.
in game screenshots are on topic unlike your post!
>>562548316oh my god nobody cares
>>562538238>OP changed againWe have so little people and we are STILL having OP wars?Anyway I didn't notice we hopped threads so I wanted to ask if anyone knows for sure if the Elixir of Universal Resistance truly offers resistance to every single damage type, specifically Force damage. The wiki only says "resistant to all damage types" and I rarely take game text at its word because there's always a caveat, like for example getting resistance to physical damage may not include resistance to magically enhanced physical damage....... Does the Elixir provide resistance to magical slash/pierce/bludgeon?Sorry for asking these things but I'm on Honour so I can't save and reload and I don't want to use one of my precious elixirs just for the sake of testing. So I was hoping that someone might know the answer off the top of their head. Thanks in advance.
>>562548503>We have so little peopleau contraire, low population is just the perfect time for bad faith OPs to hijack threads for their own purpose as it requires apathy from the userbase to NOT use the proper pastebin OPs
>>562547857this general has been on life support for a while
removing resources and information from the op because you're obsessed with making things worse on purpose is one of the most mentally ill things I've seen on this website in a long time. whenever someone says maybe wee shouldn't make things worse on purpose, the person who did it quickly responds with something stupid like "gonna cry?", as i politely asking him to stop removing information from the op or the sake o his personal obsession vendetta isn't reasonable. I'm getting pretty tired of a few bad apples making it everyone else's problem when they have a mental illness episode.
You all look at the OP copypaste?
>>562549850get a hobby instead of raging about a OP
>>562550164of course, it is the only persistent thing that keeps this general this general
>>562549850some dipshit with a personality disorder making things worse on purpose is common on this website but this guy we have here is some advanced autism. his delusion that everyone who tells him to fuck off is the same person is pretty funny at leastand of course he responded in the exact way you said he would
>Yes you are mentally ill for making OPs I dislike
>>562550340
>>562550164Only after I heard it was changed. I believe in order and think that things should only be changed if there's a reason to do so. From what I can see the difference is in the news, the questions, and the removal of the rentry. Funnily enough I think both OPs have info worth keeping, like the HBO show in this one and the Minthara questions from the other one. Perhaps we could even expand on the list of Q&A things like listing the mod.io/Nexus pages for BG3 and the BG3MM in case someone wants to get into modding. But "the OP doesn't matter" thing has never been something I agreed with, because if it doesn't matter then why did someone change it in the first place?
>>562550720This is me when I stomp Gale's head in for being a fucking loser
>>562538238keep making OPs
>>562550993>HBO showas if there isn't a television and film board for this kind of discussion
>>562543630class?party?
>>562543131I will never play BG 1 or 2.
>>562552294You're not missing much
>pull out arrow of undead slaying>zombie asterion is human:|
>>562552495I would if they were actual proper turn based games. A huge reason I like BG3 is because it's the tabletop experience but in video game form. I was told the combat in BG1&2 are less faithful in that aspect.
>>562552720Quality coding, thank you Larian very cool.
>>562552294>>562552495homosexual hands wrote these posts
>>562552245Ranger. Keldorn, Jaheira, Viconia, Imoen, and Aerie. No romance since I am playing as a woman. >>562552294They are good games, especially 2. The writing is great.
Why are all these remaining anons so autistic? >I can't play a dnd video game because its not like the tabletop!>The OP is wrong AIEEE>Why is Gale weak for being a archmage?>Why is Aylin so angry about being imprisoned for 20000000 years?What else
>>562538238To nobody's surprise the weasel reverted back to his treacherous ways. Don't be like him! Our old OP pasta for future threads: https://rentry.org/bggpasta
>>562553057You're old and nobody likes or cares about your boring games. Get over it.
>>562553038I'm curious if i missed something or not but another instance of quality coding just arised, i stabbed the vampire to death and now its telling me to decide his fate
>>562553762making a new thread 50 posts early just to leave out a link for no reason is not enough they also have to spend 80 posts spam posting the least liked character besides wyll
it's just frogposting?
>>562553708>What elseShadowheart.
>>562555158It’s not the fault of the frogposters that they’re the only ones with any dedication.
>>562553708>having a preference in the type of game I like is autismThen I guess that makes me autistic. You think I could use this to file for benefits?
Summer game fest Coming at ya
>>562555158frog websitefrog boardfrog general
Wyll?
>>562558667She’lak trash.
>>562559089You arsehole!
>>562556229there is absolutely fault with the frogposters that they are the most AUTISTIC with zero free time or interest in doing anything but spamming frog pictures on 4chan
>>562559279Well, sucks for you, I guess!
>>562559279not as autistic as someone sitting on 4chan to complain about other posters!
>>562559905But that's the entire general...
Female Tavs?
>>562559905nice try but noim only here because i got the game recently even when im done with the game and off living my life you will still be here wasting away
very convincing i'm sure you believe that
>>562561117Are gay as fuck
>>562561528Correct, they all romance Shart for some reason.
i dont need to prove shit lmaojust need to look at the archives to see how long youve wasted your life here
>i dont need to prove shit lmaoyou're right no need to prove how autistic you are we all can see it
Is a charisma face character a trap? Seems all the charisma options do is make you get less loot and exp and you'd be better off failing all the charisma checks anyway since the game loves to make you fail forward.
>>562561996>frogposters calling people autistic>also refusing to direct replyhit a nerve there huhthis is so funny lmao please keep going
Wyll won
>>562562043It's not if you want the rewards that come from dialogue or are the type who only resorts to violence as a last resort. >less expNever mind, if you like killing then it's definitely a trap.
>>562562043It’s not necessary.
>>562562251>mod wyll to have tits>he instantly becomes better than ugly characters like laezel minthara karlach>put her in slutwear>starts beating decent looking characters like gale and halsinall she needs is a good voice and shed beat top tiers like shadowheart and astarion
>>562562654What the absolute fuck did I just read?
>>562562654>>562562842forgot the image
>>562562654>>562562926>play game where you can be anything you want>choose to be a gay nigger
>>562548503>Does the Elixir provide resistance to magical slash/pierce/bludgeon?Yes. At least I did a quick test with Spirit Weapon (Force) and Ice Knife (Piercing) and it worked. The big thing about EoUR is what I posted in the previous thread: despite the name it's a 10 turn duration potion and thus works just fine with real elixirs. I first used them in the Orin fight to prevent the Bhaal follower's Aura of Murder from affecting us and it worked like a charm. >>562546227>Is there a website or something where I can put in my builds like each piece i have and stuff?Try this one: https://eip.gg/bg3/build-planner/ >>562559279What you see in this thread could all be one anon though. He saves all kinds of Lae'zel screenshots so when he reposts them you might get the impression of variety. The reality is that they're indeed from different players but it's not their authors who post them this time.>>562547857>>562549850>>562550492What the knucklehead who keeps making these OPs for his own amusement doesn't get is that his behavior drives posters away and he won't have a general to shit up soon. The other thing he doesn't get is most of these posters won't come back later. The damage of his shenanigans can easily be irreparable and nobody new will be attracted by the low quality content and autistic spamming that goes here. There's a demand for these threads but not at any cost. Can you blame people for not being interested in keeping his shitted up threads alive for him?>>562553140>"Keldorn Firecam. He tried to teach Minsc much - a happy thing, that paladins are so patient."Based Keldorn bro! Too many people use the Imoen/Minsc/Jaheira trio as they're the ones who canonically survive the time lapse between BG1 and BG2.. >>562562043No. Larian generally paid attention to balance XP rewards for both solutions. My first Tav dumped CHA and only certain quest where I wanted a specific outcome gave me hard time.
>>562562926looks indian
>>562563202That's a big post
>>562563247>>562563247>>562563247>>562563247
>>562563202>doesn't get is that his behavior drives posters awaydon't be that retard who assumes non malice. it's always malice on why this current OP is doing
>>562564249
>>562563202Yeah, I didn't comment on that part about the duration and being coded more like a potion last time because the wiki did mention it but I am still grateful that you mentioned it!>it gives both magical and non-magical resists to all damage typesThey really didn't skimp on the effects, huh. Thank you so much for checking! It's not easy for me to find Divine Bone Shards so I didn't want to use one to test and I also didn't want to go in not knowing. That's one less thing to worry about regarding Gortash, now I have to decide if I want to fight him solo at all or if I should just kill Orin and take Gortash with me to the Netherbrain.
>>562564973nipples are supposed to line up with earlobes why are his so far apart
This will never stop being unintentionally hilarious to me.
>>562565262halsin is a shitpost that you're not supposed to take seriouslyemperor is a shitpost that you're supposed to take seriously
>>562563202you do know the shitterOP is the shadowbaby poster
>>562565262That fucking ghaik.
>>562553140>No romance since I am playing as a woman.The old BG games are a good example of why having everyone be bi was a good move.>Anomen>Rasaad>Hexxat>DornAll the ones who like women are either annoying or evil.
>>562567386>The old BG games are a good example of why having everyone be bi was a good moveit has ALWAYS been the right move, nobody will complain about a character being gay/straight for literal years and shit up every conversation about thempic definitely related
the key is to make a playersexual character not a gay one
oooh and no spergs crying about people modding gay characters to make them straightnah nah nah bi romances makes everybody happy and the ''realism'' excuse has always been retarded
pan am > judy FYI
Quite humorous.
>>562569074she is known for her humour amongst the githy
>>562567760>>562568475Romancing Judy is rough because she so desperately wants to leave the fucked-up city and be happy anywhere else and has already had so much taken from her, but then you come in and sweep her off her feet giving her someone new to care about, and she's going to lose you to Night City, too.
Huh, Siamese twins!
>Larian's next game trailerThis is off-topic advertising and should be reported.>>562553762>the weaselThat's a new one. I prefer the "parasite" descriptor. It is harmful to the host and incapable of surviving outside of it. >>562552827So you won't play BG1, BG2, Planescape: Torment, Icewind Dale, or Neverwinter Nights - some of the best the genre has to offer. I wonder what that says about your interest in D&D. If being faithful to tabletop D&D is the criterion of choice, then you might find Solasta to be your ideal game. BG3 is not only a great game in a vacuum, but also in comparison to its spiritual predecessors, including BG2 and Dragon Age: Origins. Someone who is ignorant of the classics can only offer a shallow review of the "game of the decade" - simultaneously a masterpiece and a style-over-substance gimmick with apparently way too many gays. Something that is both ignorant of the classics and profoundly stupid like the swine might even liken BG3 to the "Lords of the Rings of video games."
>>562571359So how do you think Larian will incorporate lessons learned from BG3 into Divinity?
>>562571359>So you won't play BG1, BG2, Planescape: Torment, Icewind Dale, or Neverwinter Nights - some of the best the genre has to offer. I wonder what that says about your interest in D&DI like the dnd setting but that's enough to make me play these boomer games
>>562571568they want to make the interactions with the companions even more complex and push the cinematography & customization even further, development wise they have a way easier time designing levels & scenes with mocap in mind and are teasing a more immersive world with swimmable areas & burnable structures, they also want to go balls to the walls in the sex appeal & grittiness to finally get that GOT appeal >>562571574not enough*
>>562563202>https://eip.gg/bg3/build-planner/thanks man thats perfect. For anyone whos used the lv 20 mod or such like that, how's it work scaling wise will it just feel retarded at like lvl 16 on heroic? I just hit level 12 and im feelin bummed cuz i just killed the shar bitch so it's like now i have nothing to look forward to
>>562572934
Say something nice about Inwe.
>>562573508ugly
>>562573508cringe forced meme
>>562573508She’s the only Druid in that place I kinda like.
>>562571359To be honest, my interest was really sparked in the 5e era and even then I'd consider myself a casual. I only know that BG 1 and 2 run off of a real time with pause system. I've looked up videos of the combat and it just isn't something I'm interested in playing. To top it off, I would have to learn ADnD 2e. I wouldn't mind as much if they were proper turn based games, but I'm not willing to learn a different ruleset for games I'm not really eager to play in the first place. I'm not sure about the other games you mentioned but if you've grouped them together I assume they all play similarly.>Solasta is another game similar to the tabletop systemThank you, I'll definitely look into that. Is it Solasta: Crown of the Magister and Solasta 2 on Steam?
>>562571568Larian's Next Game is off-topic garbage in /bgg/ - Baldur's Gate General, as previously mentioned. These threads are awful now that the parasite and its enablers outnumber those who might still want to talk about BG3 and not what Swen last tweeted or who they'll cast for the HBO show. One might wonder the purpose of shitting up a place if the end result is a zombie general with only the illusion of activity. If this is no longer a place for honest exchange, then the Frog posting starts to make sense.>>562573508I'm not really a fan of face tattoos but hers look nice.
>>562550925I am vulnerable to hag magic.
>>562574607Don’t care. Gonna answer the question?
>>562574607>If this is no longer a place for honest exchangeanon it stopped being honest 4 threads ago when the OP hijacked the OP and nobody lifted a finger. heaven forbid someone speeds the thread along so that a proper OP with the pastebin could be utilized
what we thinkin boys +5 initiative(alert) or +2 dex(feat)
>>562575232always ASI
>>562571568>>562571574>>562574510why do you still respond seriously to it
>>562575232Bigger number do more damage.
>>562575334>>562575495thanks fellas
>>562575472He gave me a rec for a game that might be in my strike zone, I'm not going to ignore it out of hand.
Jaheira is a cougar who wants to hold onto her faded youth by wearing the same hairstyle with the same hair accessories she wore when she was a young half-elf who could turn the head of a Bhaalspawn hero
>>562575558wait i've made a drunken blunder, ASI can only go up to +20
how do I unlock this scene?>>562575472>seriouslyI'm never serious when posting on /bgg/ and neither should you
>>562575632its a ai bot that shoves text from here together
>>562575678What is with Jaheira and Bhaalspawn?
>>562575678>who wants to hold onto her faded youth by wearing the same hairstyle with the same hair accessories she wore when she was a young half-elfWhen you get older, you stop trying to reinvent yourself. You're comfortable with just being yourself.
>>562575847this is the kind of cringy line halsin says to sound deep before trying to fuck you in t-rex form
>>562575472Because I hate it and want it to suffer.
>>562575803she adventured with Gorion's Ward because she and her husband at the time were long-time Harper friends of Gorion
>>562576492>>562576563human Mizora is prettier
sooo uhhh what triggered the frogcel?
>>562576758*toadhe's been doing this for hours
>>562576758Love for the frog, naturally. I understand that positive emotions are something long forgotten by you.
>>562576838grim>>562576902ok schizo
>>562576945Thank you, cunt.
>>562577072>frogspam stoppedmy GOD you guys are cringe
>>562577145Well, I haven’t been the one posting all the images. I just appreciate them.
Post rare waifus.
>>562576024Kek
>>562577145>guys>multiple
>>562577340I hate grey drows, the white hair looks good on them because of their obsidian colored skin, I hate it I hate it I hate it
>>562577546k pleb
>>562577539Correct.
>>562577546racist
>>562577539this entire general is cringe to be fair the only good posters are the occasional artfags, slopfags are obviously not included
>>562578486I don't mind the spam but not many people know that threads got a post AND a file limit which will make posting here way more boring around if we reach it
>>562577546I, for one, am glad they aren’t vantablack shadow figures.
>>56257568722 with the Mirror of Loss
>be the widow who sells flowers near the graveyard to support her 3 kids>see some adventurers talking to a little girl by a grave>after some bright lights a bunch of zombies erupt from the ground>oh shit, is that a Death Shepherd cloaked in the Edict of the Old Lord Skull?>with 7 of his minions empowered by his Necrotic Veil and Undead Aura?>b-but that's bad for the business...!>*gets into a kung-fu stance with all of her 8 HP and 10 AC*These situations never fail to crack me up.>>562564995No problem, Divine Bone Shards can be hard to come by even if you visit all alchemy merchants before each Long Rest. I only had like 7 or 8 before Orin halved our stock even with diligent shopping. Speaking of which I'd do her before the lordling. Gortash explicitly tells you after the coronation to only come back once you have Orin's netherstone. I think he doesn't give you a second chance if you show up empty-handed, though if you rescued the prisoners from the Iron Throne or destroyed the Steel Watcher Foundry the offer might be off the table anyway.
dark elves should have dark skin grey makes no sense, grey skin has always been half-drow's skin color
>>562580359Gross.
>>562580468>>562578080
>>562580513And?
>>562580120I found out a run or two ago that Gortash's coronation isn't actually one of those events that is time sensitive so I haven't gone as yet. He's still waiting to be crowned Archduke, and Ravengard is still with him. One of the reasons I haven't done his stuff yet is because Ravengard's armour is a direct upgrade compared to Ketheric's and is the best option for AC and damage reduction that doesn't require me to go to the hells. It even comes with Fire Shield on it which is a plus.Technically the second best armour is the one Dammon makes in Act 3 but I was roleplaying a Durge desperately trying (and failing) to break Bhaal's grip on his soul and so the tieflings are all dead as a result.I tried to cheese avoiding Orin but unfortunately even though I did avoid her the game treated me like I didn't, so my quest log has already updated with her ultimatum.
>>562580359look at manthara
>>562580918I'd rather not
We use Wizard as a derogatory term here.
>>562580793most events are rest sensitive not time
>>562580120>with all of her 8 HP and 10 ACThis was me but with Mayrina, the redcap, and his half a dozen crabs. I had to rush to make sure she didn't end up killing herself (unfortunately the crabs killed Kled).
MY NAMEISSHADOWHEART
>saw a video of the ending of Wyll taking over the Absolute>randos turned into mind flayers>they all look like normal mind flayersSo why are (WE) forced to look like some mind flayer fanfic abomination?
The RNG in this game is pretty garbage. I just missed 8 times in a row against a 12 AC goblin when I had a +7 to attack. According to ChatPGT that is a 1 in 390,625 chance. Should I just quit playing?
>>562583262no just get used to it
>>562583262post the combat log math
>>562580359This is the cover art for an official 1986 AD&D adventure that has a section in the Underdark.These women are drow.
>>562583685I can't I alt f4'd and hadn't saved for a little while I was so annoyed.
>>562580793Dodging the coronation can cause multiple issues yet some players act like as if they're allergic to it. (I'm obviously not talking about you here.) Meanwhile it's so simple to avoid the potential fuck ups:>go to Wyrm's Rock with Wyll and talk with Mizora>attend the coronation (chatting with Ulder as Wyll is recommended)>talk with Mizora on your way out again>do a Long Rest right after it>proceed to the Lower City>>562581705Do you know what I found the best solution in such cases? (Greater) Invisibility Potions. These NPCs generally have poor Initiative so slinging them at their feet means they can't be targeted by the bad guys. I'm not sure if this guy and his boo can be saved without them in the park.>>562583262You do have Karmic Dice enabled, don't you?
>>562583961For the guy in the park I just pop a globe of invulnerability on them (which for some reason sends one or both of them fleeing in fear).
>>562583961>You do have Karmic Dice enabled, don't you?No. I haven't had that on since day one launch. Besides karmic dice would protect against this awful RNG would it not?
>>562583961I'm not going to do anything Gortash or main quest related while he's still waiting to be crowned, like visit the Foundryor the hells or even the Iron Throne so I should be fine. That armour I mentioned really is potentially important for me to get because it gives +2 to saving throws and so I can't afford to let Ulder leave Wyrm's Rock. I'm also avoiding it because I play very fast and loose in regards to what I feel like doing during any particular session. So not having to decide whether I want to ally with, or turn on, Gortash until I'm ready to deal with the potential fight is nice.
>>562577546The problem with the darkest drow skintones is that you can no longer see their pretty faces in scenes with little lighting.
>>562585989They also give them nigger palms.
>>562584472That's of course the ultimate solution but I prefer to not waste spells slots on these things. The Fear part is interesting. Can't that be the result of the cultists revealing themselves?>>562584506That's the theory but I wouldn't be surprised if they contributed to abnormal results. I'm not a fan of mystery boxes that fiddle with RNG and whose behavior cannot be tested and verified properly.>>562584996If I were you I'd have just stolen the Flame Enamelled Armour from the Fist Armory at Wyrm's Rock. I know, I know. It's a Medium Armor instead of Heavy but with 2 DEX your AC is only 1 point lower than in Ulder's armor. It has Fire Shield (only the Warm version though) and +2 to Saving Throws just as the same and the +2 Initiative is a more than fair compensation for the lack of 2 damage reduction. It's obviously risky on a Honor save but with a Great Invisibility and Haste combo you could probably flee the scene even if you got caught in action.
I just finished a different game.It's a game arguably worse than BG3 in almost every way but its ending made me feel way more emotions than BG'3s did. In fact, even now my chest is slightly heavy from what I witnessed of my characters before the credits rolled. So why? Was my BG3 playthrough just too happy? Or is there something else about how BG3 concluded its final act?
>>562586486After Myrkul, I know not to underestimate the mitigation I need to deal with some bosses solo. Even with resistance I constantly needed to refresh my wards and my AoA. -1 AC and -5 damage reduction on top of that (armour plus feat) is sadly not a risk I'm willing to take. Especially after I've seen the potential damage rolls Viconia and Gortash can hit.
>>562586964solja
For me it is Death domain cleric
>>562589114hideous creature
lol I didn't know you could gaslight shovel-chan into flapping her arms and trying to be a dragon
>>562589823My wife Minthara is beautiful
>>562589223disgusting beast
>>562590006yes and shes going to eat your babies
>>562590245ahhh dragon shovel, nooo
>>562590006>gaslightDidn't you see the collection of items in the coffin with its scroll?That's a real dragon's hoard.
>>562590545kek
does this mean i'm in
>>562591373yep. strangely enough, I didn't kill her this save. rolled tempest cleric, slapped on some heavy armor I got from the random loot mod, and she's pretty damn solid
how do i get minthara
>>562591825knock her out in act 2 with non-lethal damage, and save her once you get to moonrise towers in act 2
>>562591825kill the tieflings and sleep with her then save her once you get to moonrise towers in act 2
>>562592058>>562592058I know karlach and wyll leave but this means I can't get halsin or jaheira or minsc right?
>>562593267If you knock her out in the goblin camp or betray her and knock her out during the raid you can recruit everyone.
>>562593437Yeah but I want the actual story of attacking the grove I just think it's crazy you trade one character for five
>>562593267>durrrr unrelated questionreading is a useful skill
>>562593604You can massacre the grove and still get Jaheira and Minsc.t. doing it on my current run that's already in Act 3Unfortunately Wyll and Karlach will leave. I think there is a way to bug/glitch your way into Halsin joining you while still raiding the grove but I haven't looked into it. I only know that I've done a run where I raided the grove but Halsin didn't try to kill me during a long rest.
>>562590224get your eyes checked
>>562594201Thanks
>>562594284She's not beautiful but she's not ugly either. To me she's just a regular character. Sadly I can't say the same for Lae'zel, as many aspects of her physical features bother me: her skin texture, those weird blotches on her face, her nose, even her voice (not quite a physical feature per we but sound is made by the larynx so it kind of counts). I like her but I wouldn't get aroused by her in any sense. I could say the same of Minthara though. While she isn't physically appealing to me to me I always recruit her thanks to her interactions with THE WIZARD.
>>562594413You should know that Halsin's default reaction is to leave when he finds out though. I only experienced the bug I described by chance and haven't been able to replicate it (not that I've really tried) so you should act as though raiding the grove will cost you 3 characters.
>>562594569Stop trying to force your shitty couple
>>562594682>coupleThey can be not-quite-friends without it being romantic or sexual. Besides, if anyone is going to romance Gale my first choice would be my player character.
>>562593604>one character for fiveWhy do you think shes unpopular lo. Its just Karl and Wyll and maybe Gayle if you don't convince him.
i like Minty and Cutefrogfrog thread tho. sorry fags
>>562594910me too!
How do I counteract the negative part of the great weapon feat
>>562595018get advantage
>>562594910>half the thread is frogposters>frog threadNo kidding. Having a small thread is both blessing and curse. Good if you're a frogposter, tiring if you're not. Plus if I happen to say something controversial everyone assumes I am their personal schizo. Sometimes I wish we had a few more people around.
>>562595018Get more bonuses to your attack rolls. It's really only a problem at lower levels.
who is this guy again?
>>562577546I think ice tone fits the seldarine drow, as they even have a secret city under the polar ice cap.
>>562595849why does dnd have a polar ice cap
>>562596045I like this freak
>>562596058Why not? Toril is a planet and circles a sun, it also has seasons so there is most likely a degree of axial tilt.
Imagine evolving into a half-illithid and getting used to all your powers and then having the tadpole die when the brain dies.It's gotta feel fucking weird to no longer have your psionics or your psychic connection that runs through every part of your body.
how do I make a rogue feel fun to play without having to pre plan sneaking every single encounter
>>562598347>without having to pre plan sneaking every single encounterDon't play Rogue.
>>562598347swashbuckler running around throwing sand in people's eyes
>>562598419but I want astarion in my party
>>562598610Then make sure you have at least one ally in melee range to threaten the enemy so that they can be sneak attacked.
>>562598610I like to have Astarion throw items or main his bow with special arrows
Divinity will let you do what bg3 couldn't, you will be able to go FISHING
>>562600264>D:OS2 didn't have fishingWhy would the sequel? Not to mention I'm getting tired of Larian going "the gods have fallen YET AGAIN it's time for a new divine". I know the series is called Divinity, but jesus christ.
>>562600113ranged is for pussiesreal men look a man in the eye as you stab them to death
>>562600354bg3 revived bhaalsack and sarevok and nobody said a peep
>>562600459Astarion is a twink elf so not a real man by default
I feel like laezel would enjoy fishing the most
>>562600564Plenty of people have bitched about Sarevok's character assassination though.
I was excited to try bladesinger but it feels kind of bad? I know most people are using shadow blade and booming blade but I feel like it's just a better combo on a warlock
>>562601073>AC/saving throw boosthaste while bladesinging
>WARLOCKAHAHAHAHAHA
bhaalsack
>>562600564>bg3 revived bhaalsackBhaal has canonically been alive again since Murder in Baldur's Gate back in 2013
This is only tangentially related but I always felt while playing BG3 that Warlock would be busted if they increased the spell slot quantity by 1 across the board.
>>562594997mad>>562595310also mad, and dramatic
>>562598610then play arcane trickster and pre-position your permanently-invisible mage hand beside an enemy every round instead, or what >>562598912 said for the same result
>>562602009Mad that if I say something that has been parroted by a shitposter in the past, people call me their schizo? Damn right.
>>562600354>the gods have fallen YET AGAIN it's time for a new divine".nah that's peak, I like that every new entry is a semi reboot but with a weird continuity like the souls game honestly I wish they went that way with bg3 like tweak the lore of races and retcon events here and there
>>562601940>Warlock would be busted if they increased the spell slot quantity by 1 across the board.What spells do you need besides the blast?
>>562602835Haste, Hunger of Hadar, Cloud of Daggers, Hypnotic Pattern, Fear, Counterspell, Fireball, Banishment, Conjure Elemental, Hold Monster, Dominate Person. Just to name a few.
>>562603280all these spells remind me of how much I hate concentration as a mechanic
>>562603459Too many good spells require you to waste your one concentration slot, I agree.
What’s with the transgender OP
do you know whose fault it is that we have to deal with the concentration mechanic thats rightthe FUCKING GONDIANS
>>562604087gale isn't trans
>>562604094>the FUCKING GONDIANSHappy Easter fellas
>>562602337yeah you seem mad
>>562538238If licking spooder bad, why does it make you cum?
>>562604234Happy Easter, anon!
>>562605538it's full of incubus cum to make the displacer beast charmed and horny enough to be willing to bang an orthon
>be me>playing honor-but-reloads because honor is fucking gay and I already have my gold d20>get to ethel>decide I am 1337 enough to skip the ethel minions fight with minor illusion>laelae gets noticed as we sneak past>frightenfrightenfrightenfrighten>she dies>rest of the party is already through the spore rape tunnels>try to fight ethel with three guys>'fuck it Ill just push this bitch'>it works>get the inspiration for killing her>magically teleports back to the top like the spider and jewthazar>okay fuck you gay magical unicorn honor mechanic>change to tactician>push her again>get the inspiration for killing her again>she teleports up again>restart run on tactician so at least the rest of the game isn't gay
>>562605857>bearfuckers>catfuckerswhat's next
>>562604234>his head on the dragonsLaughed so hard I couldn't breathe.
I have never tried to turn on both The Guild and the Zhentarim. And so I have a question. If I kill both sides, will the man selling the drugs still remain as a vendor?
>>562607345Severn is a member of the Guild.Really, the best way to backstab the Guild is to save Minsc and convince him to make his berserker lodge with them. Astele would probably prefer you just kill her than put a stupid good guy babysitter on her case.
>>562606273>what's next
>>562609008I played wizardry 8 man. I already wanted to do that
>>562609219based
>>562609348o7 lizards are the shit in that game unless you roll something weird with them like ninja or samurai
>>562608676To be honest I just wanted to throw down against Nine-Fingers Keene without also supporting the Zhentarim. But if I lose access to the only drug vendor in the game by killing both, I think I will just side with the Zhentarim. iirc non-combatant Guild members should be spared if I just support the Zhentarim takeover.
>get that appearance editor mod>give shart better hair, and make astarion look like a mexican gang membererrtiem
snakes > lizards
Why is Umberlee not a cleric option when they had a whole quest in the Umberlee temple, but Vlaakith is when she's not even a deity or capable of granting divine magic?
>>562613091a snake tail posted this
>>562613091This you?
Wyll is iconic
>>562614680I prefer my sneks with tits
does dnd have lamiahot lamia titties would go so hard
>>562615141Todd...
>>562615471Lillends and Mariliths are celestial and demon snake girls with boobs respectively. Lamia nobles also have tits, and wereserpents can have a boobsnek form.
Really like this pic.
to the guy from last thread wondering what larian learned from bg3
>>562617545saved
what is the best no magic normal guy build
>>562618730champion fighterno special move bs no magic just a guy hitting things really hard
>>562614303>Why is Umberlee not a cleric optionThey didn't want to record more lines my guess. It sucks, I don't want to pick Talos for Tempest cleric.
>>562618730champ fighter, open fist monk, berserk barb, maybe swashbuckler rogue. I also wanted to mention hunter ranger but they actually do get spells
>>562618730battlemaster fighter or berserker barbarian, you just hit alot
How do you throw smokepowder bombs without them exploding in your face? I remember hearing something like the first stack always explodes like that but subsequent do not? I still don't understand.
>>562619241>battlemaster>normal guy
>>562619256>without them exploding in your faceNever had that happen to me. Throw it far from you>>562619341What being a tactical genius isn't normal?
>>562619505When was the last time you tried? I keep seeing comments in reddit/youtube about it being patched but I have a hard time believing random comments especially when they are a year or more old.
>>562618235>automated testingsussy
>>562619831Not him but I regularly use smokepowder bombs on terrain and have never once bombed myself.
>>562619256"ALLEGEDLY" the first stack you buy from an NPC is rigged, so you have to throw it away or unstack it/send it to camp/some other autistic shit, but no idea how it really works.
>>562619831I turned on my game and checked. I threw one bomb at the other
that being said, quartermaster talli is still best girl
>>562621095you guys obsess over the lamest characters when kagha is right HERE
>>562621260>kaghashit girli put her down every playthrough like the dog she is
>>562621441cringe
>>562621260any female npc is obsessed over
>kagha>sazza>alfira>omeluum >ethel>lakrissa>bexact 1 queens>minthara>halsin>wyllabsolute garbage
>>562621671where's nettie and alfira and gribbo
>>562621879>nettietried to poison me>alfirashe's there>gribbohappily married to volo
>>562621671>both lists are made up of characters that i murder without remorsethis is a list for cucks
>>562621260the companion we deserved. good thing the 'hireling ladies' mod lets you pick her, mizora, and orin instead of the gay preset ones
>>562622118
>>562621940uh sazza and ethel try to kill you maybe kagha.gribbo is married to me
the only mod that matters
>>562620968No i mean stacks of them.
>>562622617I don't want this ugly bastard near me
>>562622617gay and banepilled
>>562622387>>562622617If they don't have fitting voice lines then I don't care.
>>562622742Detonating stacks of bombs is a bug/glitch/exploit anyway, don't expect it to function well if you're going to do it.
>>562623548slop
Perhaps you'd like a little extra company?
>try to continue my game>can't look Her in the eye after knowing what I know about her desires for H>quit gamethis fucking hurts so bad
writing to Larian yet again, urging and pleading with them to remove her hard-coded desire for "him"
>>562623658I like it...
>>562623995Left looks better tb desu
>>562623170lol this is the same game where you can stack barrels beside the final boss, walk away, and win because it will an hero
>>562623995
>Shart laying back, exhausted from Halsin's pounding>Daddy Halsin sitting back with his pipe, supervising your clean-up>"mmmnfurfnfmmm nurmomnurghh good mmm arrmgfrnmm mmm goodberry good">"Slow down, Tav! You'll make yourself sick!>"There will be plenty more Goodberry Pie for you later :)"
>>562623995awful
>>562624406Well yeah you can do it, just saying it's not intended behaviour and so may not behave predictably. You may have to just accept it as the cost of doing business, so to speak.
>>562622891I think this sickly skin makes more sense for Gale, given his orb>>562623548Didn't realize Minthara's complexion is so fucking dirty lol>>562623995she looks more elven here, if that makes sense
>no dlcs or expansion packs>not even a full pass of bugfixes>dead modding scene unless you count the "Path to Menzoberranzan" mod that is 100% never coming out in a playable state>nothing else in the pipeline>cut content, the absence of which makes the story nonsensical in parts will never be added, either by larian or by modders>the horrible pacing where all the good content is crammed into act 1 will never be remediedin the end, bg3 was smothered in the cradle. NWN2 is the superior CRPG since it actually has lots of good mods and expansion packs, and the vanilla campaign is fully finished without dangling cut content threads everywhere
>wake up and roll over to spoon Shaddy>she's not there>"huh must be out for another midnight swim"
>frogposting and druidposting both begin at roughly the same timereally makes you think huh
>NWN2 literally who?
>>562625224Oh my god I hate this general
>>562625073>superior gamepost salesif you say sales dont mean quality you are admitting defeat
>>562625513based knower, minecraft is the best game of all time, followed by GTA and Wii Sports
>>562625387same person
>>562625674They're all fire
>>562625674irrelevant to the genre we are discussingnow post sales
>>562625865>skyrim is the best RPG of all time>>562625394BG3 is NWN2's spiritual successor, but it was a prodigal son
Bg3 is the child of dos2 and dragon age origins
>if you romance Karlach you get pegged and also kind of cucked when she fangirls over Minsc>if you romance Shart you're brutally, hardcore omegacucked by big daddy HalsinIs there any way to not be a cuck in this game?
>playing with random loot mod>got a nice little team in act 1 (illusion wizard/elk barb/shadow sorc/tempest cleric)>save little Mirkon from harpies>random quest reward gives me GLOVES OF FUCKING DEXTERITY and not some trash green>mfw
>>562626057i accept your concessionnow let us return to discussing bg3an actual successful game and the subject of the general
>>562626186DOS2 is just bootleg BG3 but DA:O, like NWN2, is better overall.
>>562626495Dragon Age Origins Dragon Age Origins Divnity Divnity
Bg3, the rpg of the decadeDivinity the experience of the century
>>562626869Divinity will be good but it won't be anywhere near that good.
>>562627126Let them cook
>"Sh.. Shadowheart? Shaddy?">She sighs a little, polite but annoyed by the interruption, "Yes, Tav, what is it? You know it takes longer with interruptions">"Wh-why do you .. um... taste like Goodberry...?">"Erm, new soap I suppose now please get back to work">she goes back to obviously casting a Sending spell to someone while you continue to lick her 'down there'
>>562626446is the mod in the game itself on their mod page or something from nexus?
>dutifully eating the goodberry pie like she wants you to>feel Shaddy's legs clamping around you suddenly>hear the gruff grunts of Halsin somewhere behind become more primal, more animal>manage to look back a bit, seeing Halsin with his hard "oak staff" start to get more hairy, more leathery. Bigger.>"w-wait, n-nnoo" you start to plead, struggling to get free>Shaddy begins chanting, looking at you with glee, as she casts Command: "Submit">A heavy paw lands on your shoulder holding you in place
BG3 is the best AA/AAA RPG ever made in terms of reactivity. There are more reactive RPGs, but they're completely text based with no VA or cutscene work. BG3 is also arguably the best voice acted RPG ever, on that subject.Downstream from those two, BG3's companions are probably the best ever written, on the strength of how they're performed and how massive their character development is due to reactivity and sheer number of lines of dialogue. However that's only looking at BG3 as a single title, Mass Effect or Dragon Age probably has the best characters since they've got several games to develop and write the characters in.BG3's story is above average at best. NWN2 had a better story, and DA:O had a much better story.
>>562627456both I think? it's called ancient mega pack, although I hear the newest version of it nerfs some disenchant/reroll mechanic because the modder had a melty. mine's a little out of date
>>562627690Limits you're imposing to be able to say something good: AA/AAA, VA and elaborate cutscenes.I mean, okay. But just on its own merits, I disagree. Most of the reactivity is mad-libs, as in "Ah, I see you're a <class>! Well met" and then morons like yourself are clapping to themselves about their choices being seenI also think they blew their load way too hard on the mocap. It doesn't stand the test of time, and doesn't make for a timeless classic. I'm not still playing BG2 because of its "sick cloth physics" or whatever makes you zoomer retards clap and rock back and forth.>BG3's companions are probably the best ever writtenjust lmao>BG3's story is above average at best.Agreed there, though if you just played Act 1 it would be a very solid experience. Falls apart hard after that.
>>562627690Only laezel astarion and Shadowheart are goat companion contenders in bg3 the rest are underwhelming or straight up bad
>>562628174Name another RPG that has voice acting and cutscenes with more reactivity. If you can't, your contradiction of my statement is vacuous.While you're at it, name another RPG with better companions. Bearing in mind that just because you don't like them personally, doesn't mean that they lack complexity or development
>>562605871There's a couple people u can push off the edge but they don't die. It's kind of gay i dont know why they did that. If they don't want their precious OC donut steel boss to not die to getting pushed off have them be smart enough to not get pushed off or give them gay ass ketheric cant be moved buff
>>562628295That's still 3. Dragon age: origins only has 1 really good companion (Morrigan)
>>562628507dao literally I think you need to play more rpgs
>>562617540What system would be better because the older ones lack nice stuff in some places why cant they just do a custom ruleset or something or would that be too hard becuz they just wanna make anthro sex scenes or wateva
Bg3 but you have a female midget companion, yes?
>>562628646I've played DA:O three or four times. It's a better RPG than BG3. It has significantly less reactivity. Typically you only have 4 dialogue choices, and maybe 1 of those at best will be the result of your skills/origin. BG3 you'll typically have 6 or 7, and another several based on 10 different things.You haven't played DA:O, or BG3, or both.
>>562627895I saw one but it mentioned it added user-made items and I don't want that. Just mixing where the existing items are is enough for me.
>>562618235>automated testing so thats why there are so many gamebreaking bugs that have not been fixed in 8 patches
>>562628507>name another RPG with better companions.overall I prefer the rpg party of dragon age origins & dos2, since you said rpg and not crpg I also like the party of chrono trigger & persona 3,4 & 5 better than bg3's>>562628643alistair & sten are phenomenal, I love leliana and shale is hilarious and they actually feel like companions, they interact with each ohter and got chemistry going on nah nah nah I'm sorry I just don't bg3's companions are that good overall, astarion or shadowheart though? yeah they're definitely among the best companions ever made but the whole party is ASS like it feels awful to interact with wyll or halsin >>562628838they're making a custom ruleset
>>562628858no because the midgets arent hot
I still think we have autistic newfags here
>>562629119you can tell that there are aren't a lot of regulars right now because we're actually talking about bg3 lol
>>562625073I like both. >>562625513That is retarded reasoning I'm gonna keep it real with you. You are retarded.
>D:OS2Really? It felt like a minimalistic game that relies on you inferring things from the environment. As someone who likes reading I think BG3 handled characters and settings better as a whole.
>>562628923yes i havent played bg3 thats why I am here
>>562629217spoken like someone who cannot defend their favorite games low sales
>>562629043Alistair and Leliana I can understand, they're good, just not top tier like Morrigan. But Sten and Shale? They're underbaked.
>>562629289don't get me wrong they're objectively less complex than bg3's companions and got way less dialogues & scenes and interactions but I much preferred interacting with them than with most of bg3's party ESPECIALLY if you count emperor as a companion
>>562629289>that relies on you inferring things from the environment>he didn't talk to the animals
>>562629494I played with the Pet Pal DLC because I killed the guy who actually came with Pet Pal as an innate. I genuinely barely remember anything the animals ever said to me. Apart from the lonely undead cat on Bloodmoon. And I guess the possessed little girl's undead cat? And the people-cows...
>>562629979This is a good list.
I finished bg3 over 10 times and I've never made shart kill aylin or recruited minsc
>>562629983the chickens and their eggsthe stagsthe bearsvarious rats in various dungeons
>>5626299794 good companions beats out dragon age: origins which at the absolute most has 3 (alistair, leliana, morrigan)
>>562630271>recruited minsczased
>>562628858It bugs me a little when I see the texture of an armor is visibly squished to fit onto the smaller-body armor models. Those ones don't seem so bad but others are much worse.
>>562630360brother that's how I feel about the parties if you think that bg3's better more power to you
>>562583912>I can't I alt f4'dsounds like you have anger management issues, its just a game dude relax
>>562629428Yeah thats what I'm talking about you're being autistic about a metric no one cares to defend. A bunch of normies buying bg3 does not automatically make it good that's a retarded argument. It's good because it's fun, it doesn't matter if 100,000 or 1 billion people bought it, that changes nothing about the game itself except normies had access to it and their favorite streamers played it
>>562630271is minsc as bugged as jaheria. i did everything people said even reloaded and went back and did it the redditor approved way and she still isn't in my "party" even though she is. I can't believe they never fixed that shit. I even tried the dominate person thing some redditors swear works but it didnt work either hmm. I just burned her alive at her tent next to karlach and left their bodies there
>>562583262No, you should start doing the lottery.
>>562631310is it fun if nobody plays it?
>>562630973midget races always get less effort placed into them. I feel bad for any fan of them
>>562628858sure, I liked the halfling zentharim
>>562631515It can be, why not? Ignoring the main point for a moment, there are probably hundreds if not thousands of "good" "fun" (subjective) games that people never heard of because they got drowned out by 100,000 AI hentai games on steam or any other number of reasons you can make up in your head. Anyways back to it, people playing or finding out about a game has so much variability how could it even be considered a core metric? I bet there's tons of games you played a long time ago (unless ur a zoomer) that were really good to you but if you looked back they would have overall small or middling sales numbers because gaming wasn't a normie sport back then among a hundred other variables, it just seems retarded that's all im saying overall.
Console mod batches are so fucking awful you guys have no idea
>>562632162>Consolebabby discovers why they're called babbies
>>562629979>astarionpretty good not my cuppa tea>gale pretty good flawed character tryhard wizard>karlach reddit brute wants to be a little street rat again>lae'zel pretty cool kind of retarded mentally >shadowheartprolly the most fleshed out story in general guess writers fav pet >W*ll literally just put there to have a black character>H*lsinworst character in the game purely by his weird rapeyness. Was fine as a character before act2 then became the worst character in the game by far >Jaheira cool, best worldbuilding via interactions with the town etc but buggy which makes it a pain in the ass >Minscwho? >Mintharacanonically should die in act 1 by falling into the chasm
swen could have bought a new house with the money an Alfira or Rolan DLC would have made him