Zenkai no /llsifg/!: >>562509884LLLL: is killHasunosora Bloom Garden Party releases in Spring 2026Loveca theme song by AiScReam announcedGuilty Kiss x Saint Snow unit GKSS single announcedAqours Finale Love Live! Eikyuu Stage Live CD announcedHasu 102 Audio Drama releases May 1Hasu Anime airing Jan 2027Upcoming liveshttps://www.lovelive-anime.jp/schedule/>LLLL Localifyhttps://github.com/ChocoLZS/linkura-localify>LLLL gameplay guideshttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1UKk5AsMS3xVRvwit1frFLn8OZ0K_1IZf94j0t2H9DFE/edithttps://ham-san.net/notes/caa983c7-6e26-4de3-b775-a9aef2329a8a>LLLL databaseshttps://kachagain.com/linklike/ (103-104)https://wikiwiki.jp/llll_wiki/>dead game offline/private server guideshttps://carette.codeberg.page/ll-hax-docs/>Infodumphttps://docs.google.com/document/d/10Y2FJLnzYlkAr54-YuqdtBCZ8H5I_QELL1mUt3HLbE8/>Comprehensive resource on the Love Live! multimedia franchisehttps://wiki.schoolidol.net/
>>562704472>literally short-haired Kozueadding insult to injury
I'm moving to bandshit alongside uisama.
I think it's in the law that we, as LL fans, all should do mass suicide
>>562704467/llsifg/ will be gone forever in 3 months...
Remember: You are allowed to enjoy other things as a Love Live fan.
>>562704790Oh dont worry bro i have been, but especially now i dont even have a choice it seems
Still sinking in.
I blame Aquors.
Nigo did this
>>562704467>niji movies were so expensive and bombed so hard, that they took half of franchise with them
>Nina is in a bang dream bandwhat the fuck dude
>>562704871would work if the developer themselves didnt admit to having no money
>>562704790Except bandshit.
From what I remember bandniggers don't even pay attention to their non-live bands.
>the only thing we have to look forward to for Love Live is 3D seiyuu shitFuck everything
Well fuck it, this might be what pushes me to get into idolmaster or bang dream i guess. I had a fun time following hasu too, oh well
GET READY FOR MORE TIKTOKS AND uhhhhh 2 dollar lyric videos and uhhh, behind the scenes live videos and uhhh more tiktoks.
unless Bluebird shows their true potential, I've leaving the franchise with Niji
>bandshit is poaching our girls right when our games are eosOk, that feels pretty bad.
I saw Paychan in person last week.
>>562705062Same, i got my 8th lotto and flight secured. Im convinced they’ll get axed so staff can get easy final live bucks
>>562704734we still have the tokimeki runners game to talk about haha
GET NINA IN IDOLMASTER AND MY LIFE IS YOURS
>every other franchise in japan knows how valuable nina alone is and brings in all the money>meanwhile LL staff fired heryeah you cannot even make this shit up
>>562705152she's already there
>>562705245you know what i mean fuck boy
Btw mods, please kill /llsifg/. Our last game just fucking died so we have no reason to exist as a general anymore.
There's always /vmg/
Fest 2 wouldn't be a celebration, it would be a funeral
Nina having to announce shes a bassist in bang dream on the same day LLLL dies lmfao
>>562705368>they couldn't even get all of aqours or the hags back for our franchise farewell concertlol
What if...we turn the Love Live OCG into moneymakers like Pokemon TCG and YGOThen we can move /llsifg/ to /biz/ and discuss our investments or how we broke into the downtown card store, stole all the cards. High risk, high return.
Can someone please tell me what the fuck happened to Bluebird? I'm so out of the loop.
i don’t even know what to say, the franchise that turned me into an idolfag and shaped my interests genuinely might not make it to its 20th anniversary.
>>562705532They cancelled the tweets, so we literally don't have shit to look forward to
>>562705532nothing, nothing is happening, that's the problem
>>562705532Its in limbo, tweets are canceled and its been radio silence since the first live. I don’t even think we’ve had collabs with cafes or stores even. Just nothing
>>562705592>>562705625What about the tweets? What was even its gimmick? Is that why it was called Bluebird, because it referred to the old Twitter logo?
>Le im@s>Le bandshitMeanwhile ZLS announced a live on Saga arena next year despite no anime, no game at their recent sold out concert.Actual high IQ otakus move to Franchouchou because they are the closest to Love Live we have right now.>no games>no anime>Still kino
>>562705691Yes its likely it was supposed to synergies with old twitter aesthetics lol
>>562705452They couldn't even get all nijis
>>562705691Each character have Twitter account, and it acts as some sort of personal diary to tell the story
>>562705452>>562705748Who was missing?
>all those withxmeets that aren’t uploaded to yt or bilibili let alone have a translation All this stuff is going to become lost media isn’t it?
>>562705783Take a fucking guessIt's always setsuna
>>562705867This might be the worst thing ever
>>562705858But she's not even part of LL anymore.
>>562705443>bassistSo she’s not singing? what the fuck is the point.
>>562705867lmao
restage wonned
>>562705783
>literally posted this yesterday Feels good to be fucking right. This is why you don't spend on this piece of shit franchise.
>>562706018>10 yearsYes.
everyone but the bassist
>>562705917>SIF lived for 10 years>Groovy Mix limping on its fifth yearWestoids digglers had to search for a win somewhere>They got a Panty&Stocking collab for jp>Westoids lost their shit at one of the outfits has a boob window>The collab performed worse than the Rent A Girlfriend collab at the end (lol)The are not on a better position with the GBC gacha coming but who understands them at the end.
>>562705317Uhm, so, uh... what is your favorite yohavania weapon?
>>562706018low operation costlike SIF
>>562706160>Rent-A-Girlfriend collabWhat?
>>562706018Okay I was just lurking to see what was going on but I have to say thisRe:Stage is currently in real dire straits, we lost our rst-project dot com domain and now have to access the official website through the game company's domain instead, our big "everyone is here" concert is happening in a week with ONE huge absentee (it's your Niji Kanata btw), a new month started without any new event and what was supposed to be the April Fools card was only released as acrylic merch instead, I'm actually scaredI'm sorry for your loss Love Livers but I'm not in any position to be getting complacent either
>>562706279He's right you know
>>562706347Re:Stage has been around for so long that even if it finally dies, it's lasted far longer than anyone thought.
>>562705965Either she learnt bass behind the scene or is just another seiyuu focused band since.However, she did not announced it was leaked.>New bandniggers game is handled by chinks>LLLL announce EOS>Just hours later, the page of the game handled by chinks leaks SOME, not even all, seiyuu names for the new bands>One of the is a former raibu>nu-bandniggers are well known to be mostly chinksThis is not coincidence and was made with malice rather than attracting new fans.
I guess it's time to move to Bandori.
>>562706347Re:Stage could die tomorrow and it'd still have had a more successful run than 99% of Love Live projectsSurely that's something to be proud of
>>562706347>it's your Niji Kanata btwdon't worry she doesn't show up to our lives either
>>562706347>with ONE huge absenteeSad but it can't be helped. Akarin has grown much bigger from her RST days, probably has like 5 events lined up. Tomoppe is on her way to join her after the success of Cinderella Gray.
>>562706413Who are the other new girls?
>>562706509>kill HasuWhy did she do it?
Turns out that graduating your best girls every year was a bad idea, who would have fucking thought?
>>562706503Doing nothing but moan into a gag for a Big name Shounen did wonders for her career. Now watch what happens to Shion Wakayama (Alien v Monsters anime).
>>562706602maybe you should have built her a shopping mall eh, ever think about that? yeah you didn't did you
>>5627062562 parts collab lolWestoids were malding and jop were wondering why westoids were malding kekIt was not their most successful one but performed better than a lot of westoids favorite ones (which never reached the global server) and collabs after the second part.
>>562706347>we lost our rst-project dot comThis is kind of funnyDid they just forget about it
>>562706413Bro what, bilibili is just publishing it outside of japan like they do a million games.
As sad as this is...the story should have ended after Kaho's graduation anyway, let's be honest. This endless Hasu rotation shit was unsustainable.
>>562706681No, they did some site restructuring last month and moved all rst-project dot com stuff to hotarubi dot com insteadI'm guessing it saves domain costs or something
>>562706760But I wanted to see how many "Ka" names they could go through.
>>562706626What even happened to them after they graduated? Did any of them retire or are they all still in the industry in one way or another?
>>562706854Nina is on the main cast of Bad Girls, and the tie-in group with Ainya's sister.Don't know about the rest.
The stillbirth raibu
>>562706925>tie-in group with Ainya's sister.What group
stop replying to the tourists
>>562706626I wonder if the game would have survived if they had released 102 content along side 105 updates, the kind of stuff they planned to do during the dream interlude, now the only complete story is that of 103 and 102 actually has the least screentime(after EN)
>>562707002https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kXwWcPoppk
The very sudden announcement for Hasu anime that came out of nowhere should've clued us for this EOS
>>562707098>AI mangled slop
we're moving back to /a/
>>562706989The raibu that never was
Here's what I don't understand. Presuming bankruptcy works in Japan like any other country, and I see no reason why it wouldn't the laws we have in place are due to one lawyer looking at others and thinking 'damn, I want some of that' then the game shouldn't be dead dead.Once they declare bankruptcy there is usually a fire sale of assets so someone can grab whatever money remains. I imagine they could have sold the game gallery, including LLLL to another developer.
>>562707082Live was sold out but the anime flopped hard next to the yuri anime by hasu's scenario writer lol.and watanare flopped hard next to nukitashi
>>562706626I can appreciate the need to experiment and innovate the franchise but yeah, in a franchise where appeal is the girls, soft getting rid of them is a terrible idea.
>>562707225How do you know they didn't try and no one wanted to buy? Why would anyone buy a game that is bleeding billions of yen a year?
>>562707098Polka will survive
HAHAHAHAHAHA IDIOTS
>>562707225>I imagine they could have sold the game gallery, including LLLL to another developer.You can do that on JapanBushi sold the rights of D4DJ to Donuts; The company which co-handled the project with them.I assume if Odd Number did not sold the Hasunosora project to other developer is because the higher ups (Scamco and the rest of the committee) did not allow it.
>>562706925Konachi is with Yuina is LustQueen, dunno what ktk does besides cuddling with her cat.
>>562707227Watanare flopped? I thought it was so successful and well-received it got a movie?
>>562706626They lost me after 102 graduated, wouldnt be surprised if many others were the same. Then 103 graduates too? Who is even left to carry, Ginko? HAH!
I believe in Love Live staff
>>562707227If Bad Girl and Watanare flopped then why did /a/ love them more than Nukitashi
>>562707557I watched over 60 hours of Hasukino and wanted more.I had enough of cinderella slop after 4 anime episodes and never looked back.
>>562707494>Nukitashi: 7k BD per volume sold>Watanare: 2k BD per volume sold>Bad Girl: No data lol
>>562707609>Who is even left to carry, Ginko?haha..
>ginkoshit killed hasuyeah i told you she's too boring to be leader, kachimachi would have saved us
>>562707665/a/ hated yohanime and loved cunny im@sOn jp, yohanime outsold cunny im@s on blurays, cd sales and song streams despite yohanime numbers are the lowest love live ever had.
>>562707609Obviously 103 wasn’t able to carry either.
>>562707896>yohanime outsoldno shit, it was the lottery bd for the live
>>562707876>og im@s still around Yeah, just like myuzuGood job producer fags with the wave of westoids and SEA larpers on your circle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anJqh1FH7C8Awkward timing lmao
>>562707767>BDWhat fucking year do you live in dude. Watanare was huge.
>>562707406You'd just be selling the dev rights. The IP itself would still belong to Project LL Committee. Unless the IP situation is more complicated than I imagined and someone didn't want to lose their stake.
>take a break from LL after Hasu 102's graduation>a couple days ago after hearing about the news, pick it back up and start watching 105, enjoy it a lot>this happensIt was me. I killed Hasu and Love Live.
>>562707961>im@s did not use lottery like has been love live do, is unfair to compareRUMAO even
>>562707876What a stupid post, only non defined gen is aqours.While imas has og, cg, ml and shiny which are literally same shit
Liella Puzzles won
>>562708015Anon, /a/ and mal are not japan >>562707896Watanare was huge...for yuri and bishoujo otakus. The LN even received after the anime ended but the month afterwards went back to normal.Now the watanare crowd moved to cosmic princess kaguya.Watanare was popular but was not Lycoreco.
>>562708321If kaguya put on lives I'd move on to that in an instant and abandon this dying trash franchise
So we can all agree that their graduation was the biggest mistake the game ever did, right?
>>562708382They chose the path of art.
>>562708375How many more fucking times will they retweet their goddamn Ray cover though, I swear it's like they think that's the only song worth advertising
>>562708382naheven with them, the app revenue was going downhill and thus it became too overwhelming for the small developer to handle.Add the hypnosis mic disaster and the LLLL future was already choosen.
>>562708382No, the mistake was not giving them content because college age 102 was definitely not a mistake.
>>562708382I hate how they disappeared for 99% of the story, yeah.
>>562707883Kachimachi has less fanart than fucking hime.
>Hasu seiyuus are not realEverything is falling apart
>>562708321Why is yuri so big on /a/ anyway?
>>562708382LL fans are such fucking brainlet apes. They were clearly setting up Hasu to all come together and be a group that transcends high school but NOOOOO, your favorite waifus disappear for a little while and you throw a fucking tantrum.
>>562704734Don't use Honk to shitpost
>>562707557replace deresute with Bang Dream or D4DJ and it's accurate
>>562708986Were they though? Or is that just a cope you made up
>>562707717B...but we are talking about game
Elon is funny
>>562706050>Coming soon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cl2Lsb1S4Uk
>>562704978We keep winning seiyuusisters!
>>562710929it's probably gonna end soon too. these are just backlogs recorded months ago.
>>562706989That's really messed up. What a shitshow this is turning out to be.
>>562704834>again with the Nigo name shitGet something new stale faggot. Nobody says that it's just Nico, obvious retard
>LLLL staff had no idea things were bad or that the game would EOSWell that is explains why the game was seemingly pretending like it would continue, in their eyes it was. LL staff are truly to pieces of shit.
>>562711703>LL staff just lets them announce new raibus without even warning them what's happeningWhat the fuck is wrong with this company
No game?
>Mion’s va didn’t even get to record a single Line for her
>>562711868LL staff just loves endless humiliation rituals I guess. LLLL could have wrapped up the story in a neat little bow if they had just warned them ahead of time.
>>562712010https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bushiroad.memorycollect
>>562705082Imagine admitting to being a seamonkey.
Love live fans deserve the ultimate fell for it again awardEverytime you think your raibus are safe they pull the rug out from underneath you again and end them.I think I'm done. I think they're done.This franchise just isn't worth investing into when they just burn their money and end things suddenly.The biggest blunder of the century is this franchise. It's insane they could ever mismanage things so bad that they couldn't turn a profit.
>>562713142>The biggest blunder of the century is this franchise.Not even close to Disney Star Wars.
>>562712196Too soon anon.
>>562704467This is karma for the Switch predictions
>>562704467Anon from /mmg/+/inti/ here. Once you are all dead, can we get back our Yohane rights, Blanderfag, California, Nevada, Utah, New Mexico, Arizona, Colorado, Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, and Wyoming?
Just the other day I watched a clip of a µ's live and started shedding tears thinking it about the current state of the franchise, this is so embarrassing...
Can they go back and say all that new hasu stuff was April fools?
>>562713469mandalorian literally printed money
>>562713469Never heard disney say star wars isn't making them money
>>562714278>Gina Carano lawsue; 40 billion dollars >Baby Yoda King's Crown figurines; another 15 billion in lawsues and more than 15K people killed >Hasbro reported that the toys did just about OK but canned the whole series >S3 lost money and nobody watched it>New movie about to release this year, most people don't even know that It did not...
So now that there's no game at all and there never has been game discussion here in the first place. Where do i go to get this general banned? It does not comply with the board rules, its not a game general its now officially a /jp/ seiyuu thread.
>>562714659This is the liella jigsaw puzzle game general now.
Wait for Ikizu game..
>>562714659Nigga always says this acting like there isn't an AIchatbot general.
>>562714569They were forced to show the real numbers when they moved production of the Mandalorian movie to the UK. Mind you this doesn't cover the other loses it has taken from things like >>562714579https://youtu.be/1fYfoHMlyOU?si=e6aAeAvtMP6qXOF4
>>562715013>Critical DrinkerYeah nah.I'll take his tips on writing but I ain't trusting his biased opinion on Star Wars.
>>562714579>and more than 15K people killedWhat the actual fuck?
>>562714659Life is a game.
>>562714659Negative critical thinking from this one
>>562714659SIF for the PS4/PS5 is still available to download
https://x.com/Heydddddj/status/2041125565189726442Should we tell em?
>>562715213It's a long story; in Mexico there a celebration that is soft of like a second Christmas on Jan 6 where they eat a huge bread with the whole family called King's Crown. Inside said bread there are small baby figurines that are suposed to represent baby jesus and that bring blessings to whomever finds one inside their slice. So Disney decided to make special baby yoda figurines for the festivities but the figures were made out of plastic. The figurines are normally made of either clay or wood because they are supposed to go inside a bread that's then placed inside an oven, plastic might be used but it has to pass some very strict regulations. Of course Disney did not know any of this when they made those things. Also yes, they were mass produced in china so the green paint had A LOT of lead. And you piece together the rest of the story yourself. I lost friends and family that year.
>>562704467Why is LLLL ending? Weren't they just about to add new girls?
I hate bandai namco, this is some shitty news to wake up to on Monday. funny thing is I was 90% sure they'd announce EoS last week and was pleasantly surprised that they were adding new girls and seemingly had a content plan for the next year.>>562713142but god damn you can't have any hope for this fucking franchise>>562651324oh no no no
>>562713142>Frogposter
We will miss Kachimachi
The idol market is basically collapsing, isn't it? Vtubers are killing it. There will probably only be 2 or 3 franchises that remain in the end.
>>562716657Vtubers are killing themselves. Unfortunately Love Live is also killing itself.
Still got our Liella! jiggy game to fall back on.
Liella won, hasuniggers lost.
>>562707069You can only milk Kozue and Megu fags for so long. Shiny Colors was able to leverage Fuyuko and Madoka coomers into a stable source of income, but they don't have the pressure of a real time content strategy constantly hanging around their necks.
I want to go back to sleep.I don't feel like working now.
wait is nina a fucking traitor whore
>nooooo you're not allowed to get fired you're a traitor for getting fired and having your group go eos, how dare you take up other jobslol
>Hasu in shambles>Bluebird has literally nothingThe future of LL everyone.
I guess we've finally lost.Looks like it's time to get into Bandori.
>>562717765This is the dumbest forced meme.
>>562718085I don't understand why LL has so many active groups when they clearly can't afford to.
rats leaving a sinking ship
@ won
Too late to bring muse back to save this
>>562718243>Akua is dead>Niji is in its twilight years>Liella wasn't the break out success they were expecting They didn't really have a choice tbqh
Why don't they just make a good game?
You wouldn’t play it anyway.
liella will save us
>>562718494they did and you didn't play it
Yay!!
>>562718494LLLL was a good game
>>562718494It doesn't matter because anything that appeals heavily to /u/ ends up shutting down regardless of quality. Except HBR.
Niji is about to be milked every hard. Those udders are going to be raw.
>>562718889I'm really curious about Niji behind the scenes. I wonder if staff wants to retire then or if they plan on riding that train as long as possible
I hope Flowers keeps running.
>>562719136Niji do like 1 or 2 lives a year so it's not that demanding for them. Hasu seiyuus were going into work every single day.
>>562718443Even when they have a massive global phenomenon in AiScReam they completely squander it and go out of their way to get rid of their most iconic member to add in 2 literalwhos.This is entirely on their incompetence stop being a cuck.
If they want money just make the girls become vtubers and beg for donations
>>562717765no that's nimi
>>562716863>This is LL in 2026HahahahahahahahaYou deserve it, troons.
hasubros...
https://x.com/i/status/2041134233088098437the whole thing is a bigger shitshow than we think it is!
>>562712821they literally said their costs were way bigger than they anticipated, if they kept it low budget it might've trucked along for a few more years like d4dj or certain browser games
>>562719985>sauce my head canon
>>562718443>>562719985>liella was meant to be a breakout hit but bandai dumped billions of yen into hasu for shits and giggles
Thanks for killing love live hasu
i miss tomori...
i just want her back...
I'm pretty sad about the eos because I played the game and dumped money. But the writing was on the wall and when 102 graduated and we lost so many people. 103 graduated and we already had people leaving and there was no way for 104-106 to carry the story while somehow fixing the money issue Oddno was having. Maybe it was best since the story ended on a high note and not played out.
>>562721914same, I'm just glad they at least finished kaho's story, honestly it would have been better off if they just announced eos after it instead of pulling all this bullshit. the game was dogshit and lgp was dogshit, not going to miss that at all.
All they had to do was keep SIF alive until they could develop a modern looking game.
now that its over, summarize the oh so great story of hasu.
>>562722192kaho bloomed too much that it killed the app
>delaying your EoS announcement to squeeze some money out of tards chasing graduation cardslmao fuck these jews
>>562722337They'll do it again because love live fans are dumb cucks who never learn.
>>562722337I hope nips refund that shit, actual disgusting scam behaviour, you would get sued for that anywhere else. It was a jew as fuck 1% banner too for the 102s.
I only started recently listening to hasu songs and now its dead.
>>562722452Last minute effort to get the funds to keep going kek
>>562719985stupid retard
The only glimmer of hope left for the 2d side of the franchise was hasu no sora. Do those jews at Bandai know what they've done?
>>562721846Is this too our stage?
liella movie...
>>562707227LLLL eos has you people schizo posting wtf
>>562723347>killed amanes other job so she has to stay in morfonica>forced nina into bushislaverykidani has done it again
>>562722462So it's your fault.
>multiple delusional fuckers trying to claim x anime or game is a bigger flop than our recent entriesthis general is so out of touch i can’t even be mad.
I feel like some people are really being insane doomers over this LLLL thingIt sucks yeah but it’s been a niche, non-profitable thing for a while nowPeople are seriously saying “I can’t imagine being a fan of this franchise” or “how can we trust anything they do now” and it’s very oddMany of these people probably didn’t even have the app downloaded and are just performative reacting in tune with everyone around them until it turns into some overblown shit showThe problem is not that there’s no game or whatever it’s that this “multi media franchise” has no mediaYou have Seiyuu lives and a magazineEnjoy
>>562719985>anime was supposed to be about 106 in 2027, but game was targeted to close down in januaryKinda doesn't make sense, so call bullshit
>>562724682>You have Seiyuu lives and a magazine Enjoykill yourself
>>562724682Get LLstaff cock out of your mouth, can't believe there are still cocksuckers here posting this garbage after all this
They cut Kachimachi's hair for nothing.
We got too cocky...
>>562724682i cant take this delulul positng anymore man, the game was a flop but it still shit out nonstop content which resulted in a fanbase who spent money on other products. Now our giant ad is gone, get a grip. AS dying deleted so many nijigasaki fans, LLLL even if it was doing poorly kept so many fans around. The trust has been broken
>>562724682love live fans truly are the biggest cucks
>>562712523yeah, I was expecting a year ago that they'll just end the story with 103 graduating and give us back the 102 seiyuusbut we had to get humiliated like this after the anime announcement
feels good to be an animechad, fuck link like and fuck all stars too. i will be watching hasu's anime next year and enjoy it just like i did with niji's
>>562716657vtuber bubble popped alreadyeven Hololive is struggling to keep talents
niji won
At least we still have Liella
>>562724682None of those tards played/watched Hasu they’re just using it to fuel outrage, they can go fuck themselves.
I don't care what all these reactionary tourist niggers have to say and I'll be asking tomorrow how we really feel.
At least we still have WAWD and OTG
so much for those sales don’t matter people lol
>>562725319I'll miss Megumi so damn much...
>>562725319Megusmart
hasu was never real love live
Hasu was the realest Love Live since muse
>>562725414they are already coping with the next new bullshit, look at the faggot above saying we still have seiyuus so it's ok
>>562725827>nijifags seethe
>>562725827liella*
Force feeding Nozomi melon bread and making her my fat architect wife
>>562724621Next I will start listening to Ikizulive to put an end to its misery
Honestly man llsifg was always out of touch. This game was always in the res since day 1 and they never made efforts to pivot monetization or gameplay style. Ive played mid tier gachas for ages and they always survive to year 5-8. Love live in particular does not put pressure on its devs to make the game a success, or is truly so delusional and just shuts shit down if its not an instant success. People fell for the oricon meme and thought we were financially stable when shit is probably on fire behind the scenes.
>>562725961Ive seen people say watanare was a flop, llsifg is truly another breed. One of the biggest break out successes ever known in recent anime history, so big 3 episodes got pushed to a theater release and it financially competed with JJK and chainsawman. Everyone here is so stupid
>>562725949how
>>562726181This is the only LL game that actually added a whole different game mode to bring more people, I blame SIF2 for pushing the devs to go with the shitty card game. That garbage game has been catastrophic for this franchise.
>>562725949It was so real that it was in real time
>>562726283some retard earlier was saying yohane was more successful than x anime because it sold more bds, and ignores the fact it was a lottery bd for the live
I installed the game since launch. The game was so ass I decided this nigger devs didn't deserve I put any money on this. To this day, they never fixed how slow are menus to load. I have no sympathy for ODD No.
>>562726559To this day people cannot tell half the time blu rays boost sales here. I remember when rina solo sold 9k anons were like a duurrrr shes so popular a durrrr
>>562726830Which Niji has the most viewed MV?
>wake up>get text messages of my normie friends asking me what happened this time to love liveoh yeah baby, age of humiliation is here.
>>562726960>normieGo back
>>562726906https://youtu.be/EvuXIk2Bh78?si=Grb8JLsq3LWef2PMall get raped by fuyuko so it doesn’t matter
if only normies supported modern love live!!
Good riddance. Dog shit franchise with a dog shit fanbase.
>>562727358why’d he say fuck me for
the tourists are making fun of us and there's nothing we can say back...
If it wasn’t clear, the tall one and ghost girl with the huge breast did not do well financially. This term was a disaster and saw some of the worst profits, especially for the lottos.
HAHAHAHAHAHAH
AAAAAHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>562727806flops
IT WAS HER TURN
>>562704467It's time to face the music. These idols don't love and now they don't live either. This whole general was based on lies LIEEEEEES!
who in the right mind can say BB has a bright future man. What the fuck are we doing
>>562727806its no wonder this ugly shit failed to turn a profit. You have to be a blind fan of the brand name to pretend this looks good.
PPFFFFTTTT AHHAHAHAHAHAHA
i don't want to die bros....
If idolmaster global plans are actually well done and gakumas becauses atleast a mid tier success overseas, i think its done for good. The amount of nonstop humiliation from every corner is too much. Bang dream has their games and nonstop seasonal anime coming, idolmaster is at a high point and has salvaged a recent failing game, GBC is getting a FUCKING game, i just can’t anymore dude.
>>562726314she's got so much motion
>>562728294No one has cared about LL since the OG anime. Everything after is garbage slop.
Oh man AHAHAHAHAHAHAYou guys were so cocky about hasu too hahahaha you totally deserve this
But I thought that the real time gimmick was supposed to be the future of love live? And that it did no damage to Link Like sales? Where are the shitters that kept claiming this?
>>562726290Being able to see the girls actually perform lives and win LL in real time, supporting them all the while it’s the biggest jump this franchise has had in progressing its core concept, and the theme of cherishing that fleeting time you had with them can only be compared with Muse. I’m pretty happy LL managed to pull out such a good project even during such times.
>>562728607dont worry bro sales dont matter something something gakufag band fagggot something something we are winning so hard
Is this a truth nuke?https://x.com/kiyuri_P/status/2041103496842522774
Getting to laugh at this faggot fanbase always puts me in a FANTASTIC mood.
seiyuu elitists won
>>562728980thinking that liella wasnt what set love lives reputation downward first is so funny. All these girls suck
seiyuu elitist sisters, we keep winning
>>562728692It was a stupid gimmick that didn't make any money
>>562719136You are a retarded doomer if you think Niji is going anywhere
>>562728861>>562728758Certified obsessed
>>562728805>Yu profile picture
>>562728805Yuri niggers never have good takes.
>>562724682>s-stop d-dooming
if it wasn't for them getting a lot of new admirers in Ijigen, LLLL actually would have ended after 102 graduated
>>562729036what
Genuinely kind of curious how many more of these "LOL FUCK YOU" moves the series can take from the staff before its reputation is just completely eroded for good
>>562730143Reputation?
>>562730236Don't post my wife in this decaying general.
We've been humiliated again
>>562730143this is it. I don't think they can launch another mobile game again. They've burnt the fans too many times.
>>5627303963 years is what gets me, even your most mismanaged game will survive for more than half a decade. Our staff are truly retarded
>>562724778I’m sorry, I didn’t realize TUTOLiella meant that much to you>>562725265Yes exactly
in hindsight hasu was doomed from the very beginning of 103 when link like was weirdly really unpopular until ijigen fes. if it was that expensive to run even with everything scaled back then that first year must have been the biggest loss they could never recover from. i dont get why it flopped so hard at the start, that was a weird era with shit like kozue being the least popular girl for a while lmao
we literally will not get any more games, the gook staff that worked on hasu leaked everything and you can see the general sentiment from bamco is that they don't care about LL and will just milk what is left until no one will spend >>562729463
>>5627307810 marketing, half of llsifg was unaware it existed when it released too.
>>562729193HAHAHAHAHAHA COPE FUCKING FAGGOT HAHAHAHAHAH
>>562726104I feel like this is the art style of someone who draw Nozomi a very long time agoShe’s so good when big and plump
The only option is if some namco higher up is fedup, waltzes into LL hq and just fires everyone and replaces them with new people to try to turn shit around. Its one thing to be less popular, but its another to get beaten out by d4dj. Whoever has been managing love live truly deserves the fucking worst
>>562730880This nigga wrote watanare lmaooo he’s fine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjdlxN157J0
>>562731071Wishful thinking but Namco straight up does not care about anything that isn't Gundam or Gakumas at this point
>>562730889Reddit speak
>>562730669>even your most mismanaged game will survive for more than half a decadeIn what year? Not in a post-Concord/Highguard world. There are gacha games that don't even last a year. That's why half anniversaries are a thing now.
>>562704467What's going on right now?
>>562731242Pokemon masters is still alive after pivoting their revenue and gameplay really early on, same with idolmaster shiny song, a game that flopped initially and pivoted itself into stability. There’s no excuses man, we got the bad end and have incompetent people running the games and series.
bring back muse and aqours and we can save this dying series
>>562717765also she is a druggo
>>562731414masters, quite shockingly, put a lot of effort into improving the game after a very cool initial reception. nintendo gacha also seem to linger on with relatively low income.
FUCK LOVE LIVE LMFAO
>>562731414The problem with LLLL is that it took too long to pivot. If the real-time concept was eating more time and budget with little rewards, then they should have axed it much sooner. Their initial financial woes should have tipped them off that this wasn't going to work in the long run.
>>562731635No reason to be cocky, niji is on the chopping block if they need emergency final live bucks lol. I say this has someone who has spent a couple thousand on the group
>>562730781>i dont get why it flopped so hard at the startIn one of the interviews the producers admit that they wanted to do a rhythm game but SIF2 forced them to change it to not cannibalise it, llll was also announced at a shitty time right between the musical and Liella 2nd gen, people felt saturated and with too much stuff happening to give a fuck about the new vtubers, so much so that during ijigen not only imasfags saw them for the first time but so did most LL fans.
>>562731635this is why jpfags don't like nijiniggers either
>>562731635some fags here keep saying Niji lost fans because of AS EOSbut I'm actually glad they axed AS cause it was not really doing them a favorno one cared about the story anymore and they already downsized on MVsthe last Niji MVs came out during 1st anniversaryending AS so they were able to allocate resources somewhere else
Man I wish SIFAS' gameplay wasn't so fucking ass we could've had it all
I just crashed out and out a bunch of love live merch for sale, fuck this dude.
>>562730880I hope he finishes writing the story of the 102 year, watanare was dogshit but the novel was kino.
>>562732142last Niji *solo MVs (excluding R3) were the 3rd album songs were during 1st anniversary
>we were only months away from a global version of LLLLThat's why they moved everything away from real time, and even the streams are pre recorded now so they could put in subs.
>>562731936being a rhythm game from the start wouldn't have changed anything
>based china man wants global version>retard higher ups deny itme love you long time staff im so sorry you tried
>>562732147They just needed to upgrade vanilla SIF, but no, lets waste money, time and resources in a shitty new gameplay no one liked
No one is giving enough shit to the LLLL developers. Sticking to their guns has jackshit to do with creative integrity, they simply were too stubborn to see the writing in the wall Also Hasu being unaccessible as fuck was a problem, having +120 hours of storyline you have to follow means it's impossible for newcomers to enter, and yes, you have those digests videos, but it's nearly not enough, there's a reason for why most successful multimedia franchises don't have nearly as much of a entry barrier.
>>562732528>lets waste money, time and resources in a shitty new gameplay no one likedthis was the move that killed the entire SIF brand and set LL back by a decade or more
>>562732658something something you dont watch hasu something something
>>562732663that's pretty much all on KLabthey got a bit cocky since SIF was relatively successfulwhen they could have just copy other relatively successful games instead
>>562732147>AS>gameplay
>>562731635nijibros won
>>562732924Where is their game
Hasu entry point was truly ridiculous. You could read all of one piece faster than every term bro
>>562733025On the Switch
>>562733025tokimeki runruns
>>562733025https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bushiroad.TOKIMEKIRunRuns
trvke?
>>562732815maybe, maybe not, the original plan was to add 3D lives into SIF, who knows why they decided to make a full new game instead
>>562733219Actually true
>>562733238Because it wasn't so easy. SIF1 ran on a old homemade framework. They had to rewrite the entire code base.
>>562733674The interview basically confirmed that no higher ups in bamco cares or understands anything about LL, which makes perfect sense as we've always questioned LLstaffs baffling decisions over the years.
>>562733238Because SIF was too old and would require more data to download than would its playerbase could afford.
>>562733674what are these posts, where are they from and whats the source
>>562733674>even if some leave, it's love live, they'll just eat whatever slop we give them
>>562733891https://gemini.google.com/share/continue/8fa67a8943cbGook dev that worked on LLLL leaked everything and did a Q&A on some gook forums since oddno/bamco didn't pay him for all the work he did
https://youtu.be/qClfKX9w9yA?si=fZKuB9H3F-IX_rVZreminder that kidani is full of shit and school idols still thrive. Its just another IP understood the appeal and revitalized it
>>562731242Thats the catchTokime runruns! is not gacha
>>562731596The sound of crackling bones.
>>562734034How do we know this "gook dev" is legit and not some troll talking out their ass
>>562733674A bit hard to believe considering the LR banners with those godawful 1% rates.
>>562733859retardbro, the higher ups are the ones questioning WHY they left. It was the people in charge of Hasunosora development as a whole that made the choice to graduate the girls despite Ijigen showing them they were the most popular
>>562733887All those Seabros on 2014 Samsungs...
>>562734414You don't, that's the best partDon't tell the japanese
>>562734414We don't!
>>562734414Read the interview, we'll know soon enough when all the stuff he outlined comes true or not>>562734452Read the interview, you have no clue what you are talking about. He mentions multiple times how incompetent he thinks bamco is and how they don't care about LL or know anything about it.
In the end, were they a good LL group?
>>562734452No you actual retardbroIt's the higher ups questioning why the fans are leaving after graduating 102They think the fans are braindead brandcultists that like Love Live and not the seiyuu
>>562734772they were okay
>>562734597This hits hard, it feels like no one passionate works on love live. Its a bunch of suits who don’t understand what they have.
>>562734772They were the best...
>>562734772The 2nd/spoiler] best
>>562734923Well the actual people working on the LLLL game were passionate at least, from the interview they basically worked for free without getting paid since January to finish the 103 story at the very least. It's the higher ups that don't care and don't even care to pay them which is disgusting.
>>562734881>They think the fans are braindead brandcultists that like Love LiveThat isn't completely wrong. But graduating characters Is stupid
>>562734772niji was better
>>562734772not even a ll group
>>562734772The best.
>read through thread>some schizo convinced himself watanare is a flop>its one of the biggest successes for seasonal anime recently>random akari kito slander>lie that she attends no livesi forgot how out of touch this place was
https://www.iwara.tv/video/lryfOwQmbxLHKMbring sifas back...
>>562734772No, they attracted the worst kind of basedboys, tumblerinas and trannys. Pretty much the reason I stopped going to LL concerts.
I can't possibly buy OddNo and the people writing LLLL somehow not knowing their plans to graduate 102 and 103 from the fucking startThis all sounds like bullshit that's being parroted by someone that can't accept that Hasu was mismanaged as hell and looking to blame everyone but the people directly in charge
>>562735252*basedboys
>>562735263>I can't possibly buy OddNo and the people writing LLLL somehow not knowing their plans to graduate 102 and 103 from the fucking startwho said this retard? no one, do you fucking faggots even know how to read. what they didn't understand is how much it hurt them revenue wise by graduating 102, they were surprised about the sharp drop because they were totally out of touch with the fans
we love akari kito here
>>562735497until you post legit proof of your larping "dev" being the genuine article, I won't buy shit and will keep questioning your nonsense
>>562734034Thanks for the link. It's a dumpster fire. Fuck Bamco.
>>562735252You never went to a concert fuck off
>>562732352It sure would have attracted more people than the shitty card game, it would also mean they wouldn’t have to develop a new mode and do updates for both.
>>562735607so your head canon that you made up is totally more genuine?
>>562735524i want to see her navel
>>562735252>they attracted the worst kind of basedboys, tumblerinas and trannysOh so Hasu was your first LL.
JOP thought Hasu was Love Live answer to AKB48 or Sakurazaka46; hell they even had a former sakurazaka46 there.With the graduation system and new girls joining every new term.The catch is none of the above had an expensive 3D alternative reality on real-time app which sucks most of the money. And, of course, on AKB48 and Sakurazaka46 when a popular member graduates the fans of such member leave and all they can hope is next new member to be bigger but until then they are on their own. So the idea of 103 fans moving to 104 not only is bullshit but also a retarded arm chair business move.AKB48 and Sakurazaka46 are WAAAAY past their hey days but are still active. Love Live is as well but god knows why management can't keep any gacha alive.
>>562735868I've been here since Muse, you have no idea how bad it got.
>>562735779I'm not the one claiming that I totally have le insider knowledge like you are, fucking asshole
>>562735964So have I, and I haven’t seen the Hasu equivalent of andrea ritsu nicomaki, rintaichou, umi dah or any of the less notorious faggots.
>>562736373>>I can't possibly buy OddNo and the people writing LLLL somehow not knowing their plans to graduate 102 and 103 from the fucking startI'm talking about this, which you just sprouted out of nowhere, which literally no one said.
>>562735868for westoids and SEA>myuzupretty much the current Uma Musume fags but on a smaller scale>akuaGirls and some myuzu fags but still on smaller scale>NijiAS brought some casual fags but also filtered them with how high IQ the gameplay was for a rhythm gameProbably the troon is the only one who stayed>Liella Pretty much the same group of the previous 3>SIM404 NOT FOUND IN THE SYSTEM 404>HasuFor some reason, some im@s fags came for Hasu>Blue BirdDo they even have fags outside Japan?
>>562731635No lies detected
im so mad that we will never see 106. not in the game anywaywe'll be lucky if the raibus aren't cancelled
Guys i think this franchise at best is gonna just be concerts and nothing else. Its actually done for, theres no way there’s any money left
>>562731635Nijifags proving yet again that they hate love live and aren’t a real gen.
>>562735734No, you fuck off nigger.
>>562736750this is not a real concert
>It's the retarded asia tour faggot who comes here to brag every other month about how he went to japan and went to a concert and how amazing he is and the only person to have ever done solmao
>>562733674As someone who stopped reading after 102's graduation this is pretty funny.
>>562716657Unironically the only "idol" media franchise thats doing well is Umamusume.
>>562736880fucking kek
In less than 12 hours people somehow already forgot writers post about this situation>>562699034
>>562734597I also stopped reading after 102 graduated lmaoooo
>>562735524Bogged
>LL staff is just as incompetent as we always thought maybe even moresoDamn
>>562736750I enjoyed the concerts. Hasu fans are more rowdy but I like the atmosphere.
I WANNA DUN!CAUSE LIKE A DUN!YOU KNOW THE DUN!DUN DU DUN!
>>562737280We spent years questioning why LLstaff made such retarded decisions now it makes sense, they don't even follow the franchise.
>>562737056That's because drive-by shitposters weren't here 12 hours ago.
>>562737150that's not emorin
Okay you tried and failed hard, call back who you tried to graduate and try something else.
>>562737535UGH
lmao shes moving onto a better gig already
>>562737785traitor whore
>>562737785even rich people need extra money to pay for their drugs
>>562732658>having +120 hours of storyline is too much of a high entryI don’t get this mentality, it’s not a physical test to join the army or to enter college, just watch the cute anime girls, if you like it keep going that’s the whole fucking point, you have other groups crying about no content but then will cry that this other one has too much to sit it through.
>>562737280Actually wild and to no surprise
>>562736535>Hasu>For some reason, some im@s fags came for HasuMaybe ijigen
>>562737785>better gig Love Live was her dream, she will throw bandshit to the side if it ever conflicts with a future live.
>>562736460because the fanbase is a fraction of what it used to be and no one talks about it anymore. all the rinsenpais of today are literal whos on twitter that only a few dozen people watch. if hasu were as popular as muse there'd be just as many crossdressing tranny faggot streamers. probably more because it's ten years later and that shit is even more common now.
>>562738138LMAAOOOOO
>>562738138She spent more years applying for LL than she was in the franchise
>>562737785She the only one really doing much, the other two have been keeping their schedules more open.
>>562738138They literally threw her away for shits and giggles
>>562738138Her casting was a fucking mistake
>>562738173rinsenpai's legacy is ruining the name of Lanpoo's unit.
https://youtu.be/xSRkTWgkAJg?si=tdrWlbznjDPVT7IJreminder that gakuen idolmaster has an ingame story thats formatted to be structured like an anime. Its all translated by a niji chad
>>562704467idolmaster wonits our fault for making our girls all look the same desu
>>562737785is that izumi
so are you saying that this is a tranny-coded franchise?
>>562738173Yet not a single troon here>>562737356, meanwhile, I have seen first hand umi and shizuku crossdressers.
>>562738767Afraid so.
>>562738608hold on partner, the og girls and million live got same face syndrome too
>>562738592I dont have the energy in me to fight back anymore. Fuck it i’ll watch
Love Live has always been a franchise for trans girls. Transition or get out of here, chuds
>>562735252>Pretty much the reason I stopped going to LL concerts.no the reason is because you're poor, it's obvious because you have to come here all the time bragging about that one time you ever went to a LL concert and you do it so often it's embarrassing
>>562738592>gakushit>nijifagSorry, I’m just not watching your slop, ever. lmaoooooo
>>562738767its actually for straight men but western culture has deteriorated to the point where half the straight men who like this series deluded hemselves into thinking they can be the raibu when they should just want to fuck them
>>562739057we can thank rin for this sentiment
>>562739087What's wrong sis. Is it too heterosexual for you.
>>562739087>calling another franchise slopbrother we lost, we were the slop this whole time
>Bamco had no idea why fans were leaving after 102's graduation Nah bro, there's no way. I refuse to believe in this level of sheer retardedness. It HAS to be fake.
>>562738005you don't get this mentality so you are unable to understand why it was always a complaint from people that wanted to get into Hasu yet always found this shit stopping them. LLLL is now dead, you can stop pretending this is a good way to maintain your franchise.
bang dream general is laughing at us bwos
>>562739307I believe it. They just see us as mindless cattle ready to CONSUME.
>>562739319Its the structure, most gacha games just let you invest time in whatever you are interested in. Idolmaster especially, you watch the commus you like and skip the ones you don’t care for. In hasu the story is a straight shot, watch 100 hours or fuck off
>>562739307reminder 102 are still not in 15 anniversary promotion
>>562739450deserved
>>562739057it's a product from a culture where the incel to tranny pipeline doesn't exist
>>562739319I’m glad I don’t have zoomer brainrot.
>As long as a game is announced at Fest 2, everything will be alright
>>562739450You stole Amane first... eye for an eye...
>>562739307Same. For 102's graduation to matter and have impact then fans would have to care about the girls. You can't have this position and also wonder why people were leaving after they were gone. It's nonsensical.
Franchise has 2 options, concede and remain a concert only franchise. No more anime, no more fancy mvs, no more games, accept mediocrity and allow everything to surpass you. Or they couls go all in and beg a namco share holder for one more chance, release something around gauken idolmaster level and make it work. If it fails, series is over. I prefer the latter, this seiyuu era of love live has been dreadful.
>>562739730>acshually being an unaccessible mess was good for the game, see, this is is why EOS was ALWAYS the endgameYou know there's a comfortable middle point between what Hasu was doing and 30-second storylines like Fruit Passion Island or whatever slop people watch on Tiktok, right?
>>562739936You faggots hate Amane.
>>562740021The people working on the game understand but the people in charge most likely do not even consume the content at all, but somehow they get to make the decisions. Either way it doesn't seem that far fetched considering how they continued to handle the 15th anniversary.
if we are honest the world has moved on. idols dont draw anymore, the market is saturated. people would rather race horse idols and listen to jpop. art has moved on, ours looks the same as when it first began. gachas have moved on. rythem games are for boomers like bullet hells are, why would new players ever play our games when other gachas look like AAA games nowadays. when it began it was innovative but now its obsolete.
HAHAHAHAHAH
>>562740287what a fucking cope, idolmaster is at a high point and holo live shit is an idol larp. Stop making excuses for how low quality love live has been
>>562740287>and listen to jpopactually it's kpop that the kids likeno one gives a fuck about jpop
>make a gacha>it dies>make another>people too burned by the last one taking their money and dying that many dont spend>this one dies even fasterdo this like 5 times, and there is nobody willing to spend which means its a self fulfilling prophecy. its unrecoverable really. unless they find a way to get a new playerbase thats bigger than ever which is hard when you can only make music games which is extremely niche nowadays.
>>562740106If you like something you watch/read it, if it’s too long you take a pause, zoomers apparently can’t fucking watch a long tv show or read fucking book. LLLL never had a chance with this audience.
>>562740059If it's the latter, it should already be far into development or else they are gonna rush it, it will be terrible, and it will be the end of the series.
>>562740059it's pretty obvious higher ups don't want to take risks or spend any money on LL and still want to milk the remaining fans for money, just look at bb it's the perfect example
>idols are dead>please ignore the active school idol franchise >please ignore holo live>please ignore uma>please ignore all the other successful music series that have overlap
>>562740287>idols dont draw anymoreinsane cope and full on lie.
>>562740775OK now revive AikatsuIt's a Sunrise studio problem
https://x.com/i/status/2041061949082083723It's over, and its tomoris fault...
i blame the success of hololive
>>562740609you're the kind of person that put this game on EOS path. You see something like this happening and instead pivoting to an easier to digest format, you simply stick to your guns and blame the audience for not getting what you're trying to do.
>>562740971I dont get japs obsession with tomori, just let her fuck off already
>>562740609NTA. I tried Hasu but the first hours are simply not interesting enough. Ceras is funny enough but I cannot possibly jump in without watching the previous episodes.
>>562741230How far did you go? It's honestly pretty slow paced until mirapa joins in but after that it's mostly all alright apart from a few sub par episodes.
we just arent the zeitgeist anymoreevery year i watch a video of the largest itasha show, just to check what is popular this year, and every year there are less and less LL cars being shown and they are replaced with vtuber idols and horse idols. only boomer OGs still rock LL itashas on their modded cars. we are like cardcaptor sakura tier now
tomori...
I remember when bad shit went down in 2023-2024 i told myself ohhh this happens every franchise ends up at a low point, it will recover in 3 years. It did not, it feels we have reached a point of no return.
>>562741373I don't remember. It was around one or two hours of the YouTube videos. Rurino didn't appear yet.
i blame d4djbamco just squeezed us out by making 9001 idol games for no reason
>>562741812Yeah so it was the very start which is pretty slow paced, if you're bored try give it another chance and just literally fast forward the first few episodes so you have a loose ideal of what's going on. The pacing gets better after mirapa.
>>562740430>idolmaster is at a high pointDepends on which branch is your main
>>562742023>>562741373LLLL is dead. Why should anyone pretend to care and watch the storyline for a dead game?
>>562742131Overall its at a high, nothing is perfect.
Honest question, why is Love Live dying? It is literally dying, nothing is working anymore and it's really really sad.
love live is just a relic of an era it shouldn't have even survived past. it was lucky to not die after a few years like other dengeki g's projects, and the only reason it didnt was because the original anime and sif happened to blow up in popularity to the point that it made too much money to not continuewhen the fad was over near the end of the 2010s it should've finished but then they put out niji to keep dragging it along and now these other new groups are just desperate attempts to keep it around and maybe blow up again. its over
>>562742131as long as you're not CG or homos you're fine. ML and like what? DS? V-tubers? Korea? those groups were never going anywhere
ok so where are we going bros? what gachas shall we play?imas gamesuma musumed4djbang dreamidoly prideany other options for a similar vibe?
>>562741394CCS makes cashgrab gachas that exist to extract profit from fans desperate for a crumb of new content and then EoS 6 months later. I don't think even SIF2 was that shameless in its conception, but it's probably what's next for us. SIF2 selling stuff even after announcing termination was a bad sign.
Sad but not shocked. how many of the girls since like 2018 have actually stood out to the point they would bring in new fans. you need to design girls that are literal mentally ill schizos or insane or wild personality to bring in zoomers, they all fall in love with the memeable crazy waifus nowadays
I heard the news. You guys have my sincere thoughts and pra......bahahahahahahahahaha.
>>562742425If imas ends up going global I'll try it.I tried out GBP and pjsekai but they have so many characters and somehow none I give a shit about, and I'm not sticking around for the gameplay
>>562742023I liked it from the beginning but the deepness episode is a high point.
>>562742238Love live doesn’t know how to react ot mistakes. Flops are normal, shiny colors anime was bad, blue archive anime was bad, yet these mistakes aren’t franchise ending. Somehow love live sees a mistake, and instead of reacting rationally they always just shut shit down. They force their fans to accept flawed projects instead of course correcting into something better. AS could 100% be on its 7th anni if they just gave it better gameplay and simplified the systems.
if anyone wants a phone gacha with cute girls that are in a band, no males and the best story ive ever seen in gacha try out /hbr/ its free and kino
>>562742747Shit like this pisses me off, this franchise has fucking nothing to offer. Blue bird is doing jack shit the audacity to imply its something significant is insulting
>>562742425forgot to add d4dj, I like that game but it's a walking corpse. and Idoly Pride is just done in the overseas market, the gameplay was nonexistent
>>562742757>ASI remember I played this years ago, when I used to visit /llsifg/ to talk about meta... Good days. The powercreep of the new songs and cards made it impossible to play as a f2p
>>562742608I hope hiro pisses of ume on accident and she overreacts. She does a kings bridge on hiro, breaking multiple bones in her body
After season 1 of superstar and the EOS with sif2 I didn't keep up with all the developments beyond whatever happened to pop by my feed (oh DOLLCHESTRA that seems fun, Amane got into love live? good for her. GKSS? I can't believe Asamin had time to give birth like 3 times in the meanwhile)I was just a little taken aback is all.
>>562742917A stubbed toe and a heavy sneeze could accomplish as much.
why are JP gachas doing so poorly nowadays. they can make great triple A tier games all they need to do is make them anime and attach a gacha system and its free money. but they insist on focusing on japanese ojisans who only can play for 10 minutes a day on their phone going to work when the whole world plays gacha now
>>562742425I’m going back to playing normal/actual games.
>>562742917>I hope the idol that has ryonafags in the fanbase has this ryona thing happen to herWhat a nice reward.
>>562743237Congratulations, you have achieved the good ending
>>562705050why did they focus on tiktok when 90 percent of the fanbase are 40 year old boomers who have never even downloaded it
Have any of the girls said anything?
should we pull a /drag/ and go to /vmg/ until we get a game again?
>>562743237Name 5
>>562743193fgo is still kickinguma going global was a massive successidk theres still plenty of successful jp gachas, you don't have to compete with genshin when the cost to do so is super high and the market is already saturated with genshin clones
>>562742424Homos are actually doing well.CG in the other hands...
>>562743274Ryona sucks, i dont see the appeal in hiro getting beaten to death. Legit deranged shit, she just likes being challenged and struggling ingame because her whole life has been easy.
>>562706160>Westoids lost their shit at one of the outfits has a boob windowthis is the problem. idols must be anti coomer by definition but almost every anime fan is a massive coomer and will only roll for coomershit, look at how well games like nikke do. no music, anime, anything to back them up, simple gameplay no better than ours, and it makes shekels because sex sells
>>562742425ngl I don't play mobile games, I'm not even sure if I'll play the next one (if there is even one)what are the chances we can get something on consoles/pc?
>>562730143>>562730616I think you guys are right, the situation for LL seems similar to Tales now. Who the hell would trust another Tales gacha? The last mainline game was bad too, I'm not sure who'd trust the next one to be good.
>>562744082This isn't idolm@ster so very slim
>>562742425It doesn't matter where you fags fuck off too, as long as you actually leave here (challenge: impossible)
>>562743876I honestly don't see how a theorical western release of an Idolmaster game wouldn't be censored to hell, especially with the way recent remasters of Bamco games have been alrered.
I don’t blame you guys for not knowing, but love live regularly hires some of the worst developers known to man. It’s completely their fault and no one elses for not hooking up with stronger developers
>>562744434ok we move to your house then
>>562744606eeew I don't want to meet his parents
>>562744082Maybe they’ll do that Hasunosora fantasy spin-off now that the gacha is dead, they should probably have something to show for the next Live.
>>562744493fuckers try to be cheap and end up blowing all their money anywaythere's a lesson to be learned there
>>562744126>Who the hell would trust another Tales gacha?aww man why'd you have to remind me? Same parent company too. It really is over...
At this point I'll take a TCG sim...
Our future relies on her now, can she save us?
>>562708978many reasonsbecause its your two waifus (average /a/ user in 2026 has many waifus, even within the same show) making outits a way for them to be sexual without you feeling cucked, you cant be cucked by a girl, if your girlfriend wants to bang a girl its hot, just watch or join infinally its hard to self insert when theres no MC in a show and you dont want to ship your waifu with a male in the show for obvious reasons.
>>562744880Yep, you get what you pay for. Its all deserved, all these hasu fans going AHHHH MOST AMBITIOUS PROJECT NOOO YOU DONT GET IT meanwhile none will ever show you the ridiculous gameplay it has to offer. The game’s monetization is making number so big it flies off the screen.
>>562745026She can't even save herself
>>562745026Yes
>>562745124Ok, now show whatever you’re shilling’s gameplay.
>>562745308there's nothing to defend anymore anon, let it go
>>562742238Typically, a Persona 5 collab is enough to curse a game and sink it. Love Live collabed with Persona 3, 4 AND 5 so the whole franchise must go down in flames. It's how the world works.
>>562745381>no gameplayOf course, let’s not pretend any of these gachas are being played for the gameplay.
>>562745308let it go man, theres no “well the competition is just as bad as us!!!” left anymore. Love live failed because it is worse that what others offer
>>562718409sadly the matt is obsessed with aliens and went insane
wait, is Liella! for 4-year-olds
>>562734034this link doesn't work
>>5627458423.9 on the appstore LMFAO
>>562745026owari da
only way to save BB is have them become true girls on twitter aka doomscrolling schizo coomers that hate men and hate being idols who just want to get fat and masturbate to actors and BL
DONT WORRY GUYS AISCREAM is uhh, unmm urmmmm bring in new fans yeah. ALSO LIELLLA IS ON TV doing uhhh, hmph, uhh i didnt watch it. OK BUT NIJI PLANS TO REVIVE AS BY uhh, doing umm, well i don’t know no one played the vn. OK BUT BLUE BIRD HAS… no more tweets, fuck…
Ume has huge titsLove Live’s response? …Tweets!!
>>562742910outside of the challenge difficulty, nothing was impossible with f2p. you're just retarded and don't know how to team build.t. poorfag f2p
>>562743829there was a weird point in my life where I was into ryona, but that's gone and I don't know what about it appealed to me.
Niji is the group winning the most right now...
>>562730616people never forgive that stuff. they remember the money they gave you. i know people who have never touched crunchyroll ever since they eos'd priconne EN. imagine that but 4 times in a row. once the trust is gone the relationship is fucked and can never recover
>>562745625Back to your slop general, shilltard.
>>562746976Yeah at this point if they want to do a game they should try a good console game.They need to stay away from mobile games for a very long time until they can win back the trust of the fans.Also they should try actually making something fun.
>>562746832I think ryona good if comical and painted as a joke. Like i used to be a weird ass kid who made king to wrestling moves on lili in tekken 6 all day. If the girl is actually being brutally beaten and someone likes it yeah its just mental illness
>>562746656she is not that thick
>gakumas has 3 sizes>one of the girls is a 1st year genki bundle of sunshine that has 91cm breastsok goodbye love live you had a mediocre run
>>562746976f2pfags don’t understand that, you can bet the 102fags who whaled in the last banner will never do that again.
>>562747596We know you’ll make another shill post in 5 minutes.
hahahahahahahahhaha
That one female hasu content creator who left because of them ruining story with 102 return, was justified
but wait i thought hasu was the soul of the franchise and the best story since muse???
Imagine if they also cancel Hasu anime
>>562748036Nah, taking out 102 directly killed llll
>>562731794nintendo understands that losing a bit of money on a gacha is worth keeping it alive because killing someones waifu is the only way to turn a fan into an enemy even if you ignore the money they put into the summons. the only way LL will ever truly be good is if bamco dies. i dont want them to sell the franchise i want them to cease to exist. they are worse than any other company in japan.
people blaming the gameplay as if gakumas didnt succeed not being their traditional gameplayOnly thing that can bring in new fans if they go full hololive, hire vtubers that can sing to be idols, just a complete hololive ripoff with a LL skin on it, theyd earn tons due to donations, imagine if hololive had a gacha it would make millions, its a bit soulless but its that or just ending the entire franchise
>>562746832You say that but a Love Live game made by Netherrealm studios where the idols graduate one another on stage while using what's left of loser as a prompt as they sing would sell gangbusters.
What if Nintendo buys (rescue) Love Live from Scamco, like what they did with Monolith Soft
>>562748716>Only thing that can bring in new fans if they go full hololive, hire vtubers that can sing to be idols, just a complete hololive ripoff with a LL skin on itIt's the same problem every saturated market has, how do you steal viewers away from the people that they're already watching and have parasocial relationships with? Gacha games are similar, you have to make something that steals people away from what they're currently playing. Time is finite and a lot of people would rather scroll on social media or youtube shorts than actively consume content these days.
>>562748325hope they do so we can just forget about that garbage and move onto a real aqours successor
Now matter how irrelevant LL gets, LLhaters remain some of the most unhinged and obsessed motherfuckers.
>According to a survey by the Japan Online Game Association (source: ASCII Japan), the domestic online game market was worth an estimated 1.105 trillion yen in 2024 (about $7.48 billion), a steady decline from 2023’s $10.89 billion. Meanwhile, average mobile game development costs in 2024 rose to about $3.33 million per title, 4.7 times higher than ten years ago.
>>562749186I would much rather read anti-rin fag and rinfag, jumpman and his boyfriend, yayfag and antiyayfag, kkfag, leahboo, liellasisterrs/liellaknight than whatever the fuck has been going on in these past two threads
>>562748716Terrible idea, fuck off. Only solution is to hire a godlike dev and make a game so promising it entices even betrayed people to give it a chance or to just give up and make the lowest quality content possible moving forward .
>>562749353Its normal desu. ive been here long enough to know every time a gacha announces EoS, the rest of the /vg/ gacha sphere immediately goes to the thread and either trolls or commiserates. were not special
>>562748716iM@S, Aikatsu, and I think Precure all tried this and it failed every time
>>562749338China's state funded gacha games have forced the mobile game industry to go AAA to compete. The gacha game gold rush in the late 2010's was crazy, it was a constant stream of new releases because you could make a gacha game on a tiny budget. You could pick up 3 new games a week and have them all be very different from each other instead of all of them being Action RPGs.
>>562749534SIF, AS, and SIF2's EOS threads were not this retarded.
>>562749486Sadly it will be the 2nd one. i dont think a rhythm game will ever make money again, nevermind a LL one. i think its just a dead genre. even the best one ever made wont bring in new people and most of the old rhythm gaming fags that played LL games are too old to be interested. And we both know they dont have the brains to come up with a genius new concept of game involving music.
>>562748716Right now making a new game would only blow on their faces. How long can fans want to invest time and money into a game that the devs can pull the rug under their feet at any moment?
>>562749787true, probably because it was like 'oh well theres another love live game to play'. now theyre all dead its way more serious. this one has got more traction outside of the love live bubble for some reason
>>562749787I recall SIF2's being pretty bad
I have been saying this for yearsIt's time to do Love Live U149
>>562749787losing our 4th game in 3 years is pretty special.
cute and canon
Next OP
I wonder if Niji is actually profitable.
>>562749796The problem with rhythm games is how do you compete against the old guard games with hundreds of songs? It's the same issue new MMORPGs had, they couldn't compete against World of Warcraft when it had years worth of content already. People interested in the genre would go back to the game with more content and that they had more attachment to because they already sunk countless hours and dollars into it.
I dont think theres any coming back from this. Jesus christ man
>>562750460Probably is but not by much. You can tell if something is profitable if the quality of the content expands, niji isnt doing this. It was probably doing very well when the anime is airing which is why nijiyon got 2 seasons and an ova. The movies however came out when the franchise nuked itself now we probably barely break even. >>562750572Im glad i can support her in something else since love live is retarded
>>562750374no slop ops, please
>>562750460it must be. well something must be or they would just bin the entire thing>>562749186theyre here because theyre finally right. i must have deflected, strawmanned and coped away 100+ posts hating on us from rival generals over the years, but now we just have to face the truth with nowhere to hide.
>>562750572Come back my angel, save us.
>>562750460Most likely or Bamco would have axed them already.
>the SEAbros are blissfully asleep dreaming of not being manlets, but waking up to this news soon. theyre the most mentally unstable out of all of us. we should pray for their mental health.
The reason LL haters are unhinged is because they are somehow validated nonstop. What seemed like mindless hate 2-3 years ago all came true. It really is bullshit but i have no fight left in me, my motivation to keep up with everything is just in the shitter. I was in the middle of 104 trying to catch up in time for the movie but i simply just dont care anymore.
>>562750572UGGO SCUM
>>562751379i mean lets be fair, thats atleast 75 percent of all LL idols ever. its very rare for us to get a legit 8/10 or higher
>>562750196>LLLL>4th game to shut down in 3 years>4th L to be takenkinda kino tbqh
>>562751510somehow liella got almost a full cast of them
>>562750572She and konachi were too good for this cocksucking franchise.
>>562751510Preferable to have a 6/10 group than two coke sniffers like the 102 whores
shit fanbaseshit franchiseno one should be surprised
>>562751694leave kotoko out of this
>when the cutest 2d girl has the ugliest 3d representativeexamples of this?
Holy shit I hope they don't make the hasu anime 106/ after the story because that's a fast way to kill whatever is left of Hasu right now. But at this point, if it works, then it works. Anime is the only thing we have going for love live at this point.
>>562750460I think Niji is just on the safe sideeven with seiyuus with higher pay grade, they're not working full timeamount of content is light but just enough to keep fans around
>>562751869
Your expectations are too high, your average seiyuu is relatively pretty. >nooo seiyuu talkits over man i used to hate it too but our last active game died
>>562751869HanamaruEmmaKasumiShizukuKozueMegumiGinko
>>562752028liella's game exists
>>562752012that's uggo squared
>>562752124Kaor1n_n is cute
>Uma game is boring af>D4DJ is basically deadGakumas is basically Uma right? Bandori is probably the next play if they have Uism and Amane. Fuck bros, Hasu eos left a void.
is this LL's lowest point ever?
>>562752375Meh gaku is easy enough to play, its not sweaty bullshit like uma. Im definitely trying one note, im already sold on mujica and my go. I’ll stick with love live until its dead, not like theres much of anything to keep up with
>>562752516I'd say yes, but I still have a glimmer of hope for Ikizulive 2L + Fes2though, as mainly a Nijifag, I'm hoping we get more side stuff announced during 8L
>>562751823bye
>>562752613I'll give gaku a shot then, I downloaded when it first came out but SIF2 and hasu kept me away. No harm in trying it. Mygo does have coco in it too, I forgot. Guess it's time to bandori. I'll always be love live 100% and won't be quitting, but playing mobile games was fun.
>>562752516
As someone who only watches the anime now and hasn't been super into Love Live since Moose ended, maybe the group oversaturation was the problem. Hard to keep up with the franchise when there are now so many girls and groups. I don't even know any of the Hasu girls by name.
>>562752375Bandfags spammed Amane with death threats years ago and they reduced her character's importance as a result.
>>562752516Imo yes of we are talking reputation. Once a giant falling off this bad is not normal
school idol is just an overdone tropetime to make a gilf idol project. just 40-50 year old single grannies who smoke drink and are bitter at the world forced to dance to regain their happiness
>>562753279based
>>562753154I guess? Liella and niji are fine. Aqours existing on its own wasn’t normal love livers were cancer and treated new groups like a threat. Idolmaster has many characters and they simply co exist. There’s alot of things that can be nitpicked, but it simply boils down to our games suck cock.
This one stings more than SIF2, not gonna lie bros..
>>562753341school teacher idols would be a breakout hit
>>562753341muse is back!
Let's be real here, it's time for the MEN to shine and save this dying franchise. Love live side m.
>>562753479>Idolmaster has many characters and they simply co exist.Yeah, and they are sticker-thin characters not anything I can get invested into.
>>562753575as long as they look like the balding ojisans that played the first game back in the day on the train to their toil at a black company
>>562753531>ambitious project vs cashgrab that spat in the faces of SIF veteransyou don't say
I will miss her so much.
>>562753698Maybe in Cinderella girls, other than that they do a good job giving lots of content to gakumas and shiny colors girls
Once Niji and Liella are gone, there's a very real chance the franchise is actually dead. Prepare yourselves.
I'm sorry Hasu bros for your loss. As a nijifag, it sucks, but we got better after our game died, same shit will happen to Hasu.
Press F to pay respects.
>>562754319>genwarshitter thinks that if he also throws Niji in there we can't tell he's obsessed
>>562754319To me its already done for. It can stabilize but probably has no shot of breaking back into a popular state. It makes me sad but it is what it is, poor management is the death of us. The audience can’t be blamed for not wanting to be a fan of a series with 4 dead games, 3 which did not reach 4 years
i wonder who spent the most on LL gacha since its inception. i put in about 600 usd. any one higher than that itt?
>>562754365different case because AS was no longer needed when they EOSed itNiji outgrown it with the anime
>>562754365i think some anons here are mixing up link like dying with hasu dying. obviously its really bad when it was their main content their concept was based around like all stars was for niji, but that game died years ago and niji has been doing fine without it and the anime is generally well liked, so i think hasu can still recover and do well too. the biggest problem is that until the anime they have half a year of no content after the game shuts down and 106 is a thing that was supposed to happen but who knows if it will now
>Bamco is just nuking everything
>>562755161OOF
>>562755161get fucked 102fags
>>562755161HAHAHAHAHA
Stop saying Niji out grew the need for AS. They killed as because they are lazy retards and tried to onboard existing fans into SIF2. As much as i love their anime, there are people who didn’t and prefer the AS variants. Those couple thousand people who stuck with it got fucked over and probably left nijigasaki, hence the underperforming films.
>>562755161It's literally over they are pissing on us
everyone's love live game data is finally gone forever...
>>562713951His fault for betting against literal shit slurping drones.
>>562755435its worthless anyway just screenshot it bro lol
>>562755435>remove bitch lanzhuGOOD
Remember how hasu hid their cast list for FES2? I assume they wanted to show off their new members. What now LOL
are we kwaboty?
>>562754738I have to be over +5k USD. I whaled hard in SIF, SIFAS I did my best to get every card, and for LLLL I have every card and meta units at kaihou 5. For the recent 102 LRs and 103 cards, I was going to put another 300¥ to get as many copies to max them but thank God I didn't.
>>562716357>Why2026年4月以降に向けて直前まで制作を続けてきましたが、資金繰りの悪化に伴い、主要コンテンツの制作体制の維持が困難となり、4月2日をもってサービスを継続できる健全なチーム運営が不可能な状況に陥りました。
japan will pay the ultimate price for normalizing gacha games, just give it another 30 years
>>562756121i kneel...
>>562756046Maybe they’ll still go through with them. But it does show what a disconnected mess this is.
>>562752516AAAAIIIIIEEEE Musical save us!!!
>>562756121whats bamcos refund policy?
>>562756228Sharts are pushing them to fight China, that should be punishment enough.I will miss Japan.
Ive watched 2 hours of gakumas story and i kinda got chills. This shit literally took our lunch money, they are school idols competing in a lovelive clone tourney lmao.
>>562755161They obviously need to come up with some sort of plan to present at a LIVE stream, there's no way they could keep this one scheduled without answers for everyone
>>562756121Kintolesky probably spent more but I’m sorry for you anon.
>>562756121which eos were you maddest/saddest about?
>>562756121Whales are so yabai.
>>562756583gakumas wins if you want the girls to suck up to you.in hasu you just get to watch.
>>562756121whales are retarded subhumans kek
>>562756798I mean its a series where you produce girls so it checks out. The variation of p love depends on the girl, alot of them are clingy this time around.
>>562757232>>562756746''people'' like you are why all our games die
>>562756121Thank you for helping Hasu live this long anon, third worlders don’t understand that for getting this kind of things someone has to pay.
bros.....
>>562757543Poor mion, I was starting to like her.
>>562755161
>>562757730On their way to have 0 viral tv moments, not a single song hitting 1 mil views since season 2, and no 2d content
>>562757730when theyre offered to fuck old men to keep their jobs...
theres something existential about an EoS. like a part of you dying, and it brings your own mortality into the fore. was that time wasted? will we all EoS eventually?
>>562758204Its the consequences of lost media. Aside from personal enjoyment its the realization that your fun daily activity is taken away from you. You have no ownership, a SNES game you played in the 90s meanwhile will always be there.
>>562758204Fun fact; all EoS annouments are always followed by a huge way of suicides. I hope that you are stronger and at least decide to take some people on the way out.
>>56275773010100111010
>>562758204>was that time wasted?In a way, all time spent on a video game is wasted, it's not work and it doesn't bolster your network so you can eventually form a family, but you can't always be all about being productive all the time, that's in itself more wasteful. You weren't born to be an economic unit.
>>562756121Thank you for your service.
>>562756702Hasu for sure, I did my best to keep up with withxmeets despite the massive time difference, read story the day it came out, participated and brainstormed LGP. It crazy looking back on it but it became a daily routine in my life.
Honestly if they had just already announced that it was ending service with kaho's graduation like a couple months ago it wouldnt hurt as bad, but when even some of the staff didnt know it was dying until just now and they announced more stories and new characters just to suddenly rip them all away, it feels so much worse
>>562758863Based k*ma, nepobaby and emoslut hater
>>562754365>we got better after our game died,>how do you do fellow nijifags
>>562757404rightt because the whales did a great job of keeping all these games alive in these past 3 years kek
>>562758204when you're truly invested in a game, it feels like a friend is dying. you know they only have a limited amount of time left and they're sitting on their death bed unable to do anything. feels really bad when part of your daily routine is lost forever.
>>562758876Enjoying your own life in your own way is something worthwhile. But this isn't that, all those years (you) were not loved, nor you trully lived. All you did was filling the pockets of a Japanese fat bastard.
>>562759342Shut your whore mouth, shitposter.
>>562758997plus it shows how broke ll is as an institution. this game was just the start
How many of you actually watched hasu though
>>562759414That's the curse of gacha after all.
>>562759470should've thrown more money at it goyim might've gotten yourself a few more months! What happened? Didn't really like it enough?
This has been a rough series of days huh
>>562759120the story after S2 was nothingburgerit wasn't helping Niji at alland they no longer release new solo MVs
>>562759528i watched all of it from the beginning when it launched all the way to the end of 105. i wish i could've at least seen the new 106 girls, the 104s being senpais, and kachimachi getting all her badges...
>>562759528i watched every fansubbed episodei watched every officially subbed episode
Welp, i guess niji 8th live is the last hoorah for me. If they nuke it with a final live after i guess i’ll go to it too. I was actually enjoying LLLL aside from the occasional hime episode. I have no motivation to continue now, never made it to ceras or izumi.
>>562759362I knew it wouldn't last forever but the recent announcements really made me think we had another year. I know Hasu isn't dead but I really enjoyed the app, rhythm game mode was a godsend. I'm just kind of in a daze.
>>562759528Started watching at the beginning of 104 but only downloaded the game after the 4th Live.
No offense but i think its really delusional to think hasu will be fine with no game. I think its over man
>>562760208The story has an ending though, don't give up Niji bro, see it through to the end.
>>562758204Hanamaru says read the Book of Ecclesiastes, zura.
>>5627595612>3>1>4
>>562758997LL staff and mental retardation are joined at the hip.>>562759561I started ep 1 but life got in the way since then.
>>562760660desu it still feels like an unfinished story with the setups for 106 at the end, i hope what they had planned is put out eventually somehow
>>562760054you have no life
>>562759975Only if you cared about LLLL and Hasu really.
>our entire franchise is dying and retards are still wasting their time doing gen-wars autismmaybe we deserve death bros
im going to miss my monthly two hours of kino, goodbye game version of hasu...
>>562761736Thankfully none of us did.>>562762090fag
>>562762081Typical SEA crabs in a bucket mentality. Nero shitposted while rome burned.
You guys didn't give love live enough respect
>>562750374Ok make it then fgt
>>562762552>>562762552>>562762552
