Phantom EditionPrevious thread: >>562592298>Official site:warthunder.com/>Fan created content:live.warthunder.com/>Wiki with info on tech trees, weapon systems and game mechanics:wiki.warthunder.com/Main_Page>Old, better wiki:old-wiki.warthunder.com/Main_Page>Old forums archive:pastebin.com/EyMhsLAJ>Guides to Air and Ground battles + MEC:steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=742852313docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hgHbWlSjefFhCqOUeGpoKQntdQDPG32X7XQo9EqDF00old-forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/438251-strategic-tips-for-ground-battle-maps-36-maps-90-videos-as-of-28august2020>Guides on missiles, radars, radar warning receivers:www.youtube.com/watch?v=Weghk_2DpfAwww.youtube.com/watch?v=_tQ6JzPWEFUyoutu.be/DOGazUgUdsQyoutu.be/wAtTS8xSYEc>Guides on how to evade missiles and survive top tier:www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsmGiyODPuMwww.youtube.com/watch?v=vUJJ94NwH_gwww.youtube.com/watch?v=8CAN_Mo2d74www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbKcAdLoWDkwww.youtube.com/watch?v=NYfNbDZw5J8>Guided weapons statistics:docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SsOpw9LAKOs0V5FBnv1VqAlu3OssmX7DJaaVAUREw78>What tanks have thermals and their generations:thunderview.net/thermals/>Someone sending you runes?:translate.yandex.com/ocr>Player, game mode, and vehicle stats:https://statshark.net/Reminder: websiteThread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1MBI2tSHe0
>>562723868my dreams are higher quality than this
>>562723868What a joke of an arcade shooter this game has become.
>>562718095>>562717732>>562718869I like the BAE system approach since it's compact. Instead of going full retard with a completely articulated arm like the russian setup, I'd probably do something like this.>Mortar tube, loading arm, and mortar magazine are one assembly that all maintain orientation with each other>the loading arm grasps a mortar from the magazine and then flips 180 degrees to the loading position and drops it into the tube>the next mortar in the magazine is moved into position to be grasped for the next shotI probably violated some kind of osha regulation for putting the magazine so close to the base of the tube, but I feel like a simple pivoting arm has fewer points of failure than a full blown robot arm.
>>562725294NTA, but the secret is to already be good SARH era missile thunder. While the masses are seething, claiming bias, and all around not understanding why their radar/missiles/countermeasures aren't "working", you're just clubbing retards who don't know what they're doing.Also nukes are cool I guess.
>>562725885Most of the complaints is that the AA is bullshit and isn't fun to play against. ARMs are impossible to use without omniscient AI missiles shooting down any munition in the sky.
Convince me to play this
>>562726245Nukes, rocket salvos and ARM's seem to be the most reliable way to deal with aa at the moment, followed by unguided bombs, gun strafing and tv guided missiles. And tv guided missiles are very reliant on the render in sensor view not deciding to crap out for a few seconds until you get a decnt lock.
>>562726817People will attempt to convince you not to play this.
>>562723868deserved for playing 35mm spaa as a tank destroyer
>>562726817Play it you bitch
>>562726817Just try out the iconic ww2 tanks in ground realistic and see if you enjoy it
A lot of burgermutts aren't even using their F-4J/F-4S properly. They're just zooming around at multipath height while seething that sparrows are "dogshit" and how 24Rs accelerate faster. But you can comfortably fly around at ~4+km altitude on your side of the AA line, acquire a lock beyond ACM range, and shoot first from a high ground position that mitigates the effectiveness of multipathing. Once the ranges close a bit you can just pop the occasional chaff while still shooting down. Their memeTI radar doesn't work when looking up at a sky with some chaff in it.
is it normal for countermeasures to refuse to work?not going to touch air until that's fixed
>>562727563Random bug, you have to spawn in a different plane to fix.
this game mode finally created a reason to take out the fulcrumthat's at least one redeeming feature right there
>>562727773It didn't because the Yak-141 does everything it does but way better.
>>56272789029 has more missiles
>>562726918The only thing that works there that doesn't get you killed in the process is nukes. That retarded kiketuber has a horribly success rate with ARMs if you bother to look at his matches
Oh god, not this again.
>>562727975It has LESS radar missiles, the radar missiles are bottlenecked by the garbage radar and the IR missiles are bottleneck by the artificially gimped FM.
>>562727890not looking like a fetal alcohol syndrome baby > working better
>>562728080Tossing dumb bombs precisely at SPAAGs works, is highly consistent, and is safe, but it's slow and a waste of time for the meager reward.
>>562728340>IR missiles are bottleneck by the artificially gimped FM.R-73s are not gimped and the 29 has an HMD
I don't understand radar at allwhy doesn't it lock him when he's silhouetted against the sky? why does it slide off him a bunch?
>>562728525I didn't say the missiles are gimped and HMD can only get you so far when you dump all your speed in 0.000000000001 s and rate worse than the MiG-23MLD.
>>562728771are you retarded? that literally shows the 29 having a better rate
>>562729060t. can't read the chart
>>562728771>artificially buffed UFO performs better than realistic FMwoah, really?
They really need to just open this up to every faction already. Sort them between filling up the US/RU scores and all it a day
>>562728665you need to stop thinking about your radar like a laser. Go watch the sensor view sometime. When you lock something it's like a big-ass searchlight cone goes out from your radar to look at the target. The target may be silhouetted against the sky, but the searchlight that you're using to look at him is still illuminating the ground too. That's the problem. The target is too low and the ground is still in play. The target needs to be high enough up that your searchlight doesn't see ground.
>>562728665>lil bro wants to use the F-4E's radar below 600 meters
>>562705353https://litter.catbox.moe/x2aul2uibzo8tijl.pngthe filesize is too big, litter has the full res image
>>562728080I've tried it myself, and while you do have to deal with aa hotspots one by one and plan out the trajectory, you can get pretty consistent results either by spamming 2 or 3 ARMs within 8 km/right before it starts launching, or take the risk and just fire one immedeatly after it starts firing at you. And after you take out individual aa, you can rack up points by bombing the tanks.What i'm not sure about is if the aa respawns in depots if it's the only thing that's taken down, since right after i take them down there's a teammate that nukes it right after, and that definitely triggers the respawn process.
>https://warthunder.com/en/game/changelog/current/1842>SPAAs now have limited ammo and do rearm.>A bug that made it impossible for ground units to capture enemy depots has been fixed. The capturing of enemy’s strongpoints and depots reduces the number of points the enemy team has.>A bug that sometimes caused the cannon artillery convoys to try to shoot enemies through the allied depots has been fixed.>Ground vehicles can now repair and extinguish fires.>The firing range of cannon artillery has been reduced.>A bug that caused tank convoys to spawn very rarely has been fixed.>The size of all convoys has been reduced to 5 vehicles.>The speed of vehicle convoys has been increased from 60 km/h to 75 km/h.>B-52H, Tu-95M — the ECM jammers have been made more effective.
>>562729603Would only work with a fixed selection of aircraft and no owned planes alowed.Also people would leave all the time until they get the faction they want to grind score for.
>>562730864Thanks. Did you use the CDK to extract it from the game?
>>562732595yeah
>>562731552i don't understand how the ground war works at allyou can nuke clusters of SPAA, but it's meaningless because they respawn?but allied armored vehicles can capture enemy depots which disables respawns?
>>562731552>SAMs are still perfectly tracking death machineslmao they didn't fix anything
>>562731552>A bug that made it possible to select an air-to-ground missile with the manual guidance on the tactical map and follow it with a weapon tracking camera has been fixed. (Report).THANK FUCK
>>562732621i think they want you to take out the convoys so your own convoy can progress
>>562718536>>562718095Is everyone retarded?
>>562731552>>SPAAs now have limited ammo and do rearm.Can you guess how long it takes them to rearm? Twenty (20) seconds!
>>562732621There are frontline lookouts ahead of the depots with a spaa and a couple of tanks. The depots will send a convoy to take over those spots at random times, and will suceed if you clear them out beforehand.
>>562733780>>562732621Yes, but it respawn when a supply convoy (normal truck) arrives into the original position, then each truck adds some health back. I have not looked into where they spawn, possibly as far back as the AF. Hopefully not just out of air.
>>562734115The tanks can keep pushing beyond those lookout spots and outright capture the depots if you let them. Only gaijin knows if they can potentially keep pushing further and capture an airfield. If convoy spawns were rarer than intended, then maybe tanks might do shit now.
>SACLOS SAMs still can fire through hills and trees>Still have perfect tracking>Still intercepts everything you throw at them>Are usually in overlapping groups so you still can't overwhelm them>Reload speed is so fast it might as well not matterEcksDee
>>562732621There are two types of bases that are arranged in two rows - frontline rally points and backline supply depots. Supply columns will spawn from the latter and move towards the former. When the former is resupplied, it will spawn armored columns that will move in the direction of the nearest enemy frontline rally point. The armored column will engage enemy ground units it encounters along the way.There are also static dug-in groups of armored vehicles placed across the frontline, they will probably engage any approaching ground units.Behind the frontlines two types of indirect artillery drive around - tactical ballistic missile launchers (Lance and Tochka) and MLRS (M270 and Smerch). The TBMs will definitely fire at either/both rally points and supply depots (seen it happen in a replay). The MLRS will definitely fire at the dug-in ground troops (also seen it happen in a replay). Not sure if they can target the other's targets and the columns.If you successfully escort (protect it from enemy planes, other armored columns, dug-in troops and TBMs/MLRSs) an armored column to a rally point, it will destroy it, capture it and start repairs. It will then probably start receiving supply convoys and spawn armored columns in the direction of the corresponding nearest enemy supply depot, where it could also be captured. At the very least this clears the immediate area of enemy AA, probably also eats into the enemy's tickets.
>>562734451Also there's gun artillery but I'm not super sure where it spawns and what it attacks, but I've definitely seen it kill something (didn't pay attention to or remember what).
Is the premium pidor BMPT still desroying the battle rating it sits at?
>>562733792How does he make to the other side of the wall?
>>562734408>>SACLOS SAMOsa* can do all that
>>562734776>premium namerWhat?
>track radars and IRST on tanks move to look at what they're tracking>targeting pods and trackers on planes don'tI want to see my little eyeball MOVE
>>562735496back when they introduced commander override the entire CITV moved idependent of the turret even when controlling the gun but they removed it for reasons without any patchnotes
god dammit i fucking hate arb
>>562735771I'm not sure I'll be able to keep playing that abysmal dogshit after tasting a proper fun non-frustrating gamemode.
>>562734793It's literally just a rail on top the barrel, that turns at the end to drop it in
>proper fun non-frustrating>air
>The real issue with AI AA wasn't fixed>It's still just TDM slop
>>562736295How do the other two make it to the top?
>take out enemy FCS>kills me so does fcs not disable firing on all tanks?
>suddenly khrizantema-s cannot depress its launcher cause krok and the missile overcorrects instead of gradually going down cause vatniks cant code PID
>>562737307>pidpod in human tongue
AHS is really suicide inducing
How the fuck kurnass2000 is higher BR than f4s/j
>>562737959>/jGo back.
>>562738180retard
>>562727890falsenuke
>>562738180lol
/int/bros, what happens here?
ifw?
>>562742371friendly fire
drones were a great addition to the game thank you anton
Aight I was gone until today. I also never played modern jets because I'm a noob.I'm assuming that means the event doesn't matter to me as I can't unlock shit or learn enough to finish anything in time right?Just need someone to tell me the obvious so I can skip it with good conscience.
>>562742371No idea, I don't play at top ranks.
Typical british navyhttps://youtu.be/LuKIchlJdrU?si=X6JYuBLITjBUvDA9
>>562743679skip it you aren't missing out on anything trust me
>>562743861Thanks anon, that's what I wanted to hear.
>>562743679have yo uever tried to play a lower tier bomber? thats what you get in a higher tier where everyhitn is faster and stronger and just fucks you up moreskip the event, but yo ucan try it out with event planes for free
>>562743916Fucking play it and fuck around. I suck at top tier air, so while I haven't got much RP, I didn't lose any silver either.
>>562743679You would need to spend some GE at this point to unlock the strategic bombers permanently. That said, you should learn enough about missile fighting and CCRP bomb computers work and throw yourself into a furball until you can afford a nuke. It is fun nuking stuff at least for the novelty of it.
Oh shit
>Gayjibbles basically ignored 95% of the issues with the AI in the eventGenuinely what is it with these devs that makes them so utterly retarded
>>562744394
>>562744748zozzle
>>562744148I have.I played one round with an attack aircraft, first life I flew high and died to a SAM I didn't even see, second life I flew close to the ground and died to AA without landing a single bomb yet. I spammed flares but obviously don't know what the fuck I'm doing, so I exploded and then some dude dropped a nuke and we lost all our tickets in a second.I could imagine it being fun, but I'm just giga overwhelmed frankly, because there's a shitton of radar and I don't know what it all means yet kek.>>562744172I played a round, I've got a long way to go to understand top tier air battles kek. I did try some top tier premiums just for the fun of it in the past, but test flights don't have enemies, so here I just die to rockets I don't see and don't really know how to dodge.>>562744343Thanks anon. I haven't spent GE so far at all, and I doubt I'd want to spend them on a bomber, so this helps me accept it and move on.>That said, you should learn enough about missile fighting and CCRP bomb computers workI will, but this is basically a jump from a BR where there's the very first jet propulsion (no missiles yet) to top tier air battles, I'm thoroughly out of my depth.
>>562744394Ah so that's why I keep seeing >>562744748 at the end of my rounds. It was a reference all along.
>>562744748/tv/ tells me it's goodi don't agree
>>562745021Use some of the high tier premiums in test flights to familiarize yourself with assorted mechanics. "CCRP" bombing is the best way to deploy the nuke.In a perfect world you'd learn how to use your radar guided missiles. Both the R-24Rs on the mig-23, and the dogfight sparrows on the F-4E. But if you're just a newfag trying to get the experience of dropping a nuke, then you should probably just go hog wild with spamming IR guided missiles at people. In regards to defending against enemy radar, the easiest way to do so is to "multipath", which basically means flying 30-50m above the ground. Enable your radar altimeter in settings to see your precise altitude above the ground. Flying that low makes it harder for people to hit you with radar guided missiles. It's not foolproof but it's a solid defense.For countermeasures you are probably best off just spamming flares. Chaff requires some more thinking to get value out of it.
>>562745307its just NA slop
>>562745307>>562745642Filtered.
>>562745614>>562745021using CCRP will also require you to first designate a "sensor point of interest" as your target location. Youtube videos about CCRP should cover that, but it's a keybind that you'll need.
>>562745307I only watched the first season and it was rather boring
r/wtg
>>562746483dont call us that
>>562747572kek
>>562745021honestly if you want to dip your feet into topslop air i suggest test drive premiums before you try any pvp mode (terst flights do have enemies now air and ground)you dont need to understand a lot of radar shit for the event, only that non pd radars get ground echo and dont work at low altitude (like the f-4es)radar keys that are needed are change mode, change target, lock target and maybe beyodn visual modeother shit can be done with the radar interface, like panning left right just drag the cone arround or use the little dongle on the left of the radar screen for up/down>>5627475722 tubes btw lmaooswitch secondary weapons do switch between missles and you are goodif you want to ccrp fling bombs/nukes you need a keybind for target point/ sight sabilization (dunno which one of it is for me) and auto release bombs with ccrp then just designate a target either with the keybind or with the map, sleect bombs, fly low towards the line, as you get close (out of spaa range) pull up and hold spaceyou can practice that in the test flights, there are stationary and atttacking spaas further outas for actual fights in the event, take middle airfield, select your ir missle, have a flare key, head for the furball in the middle and prefalre anyone flying straight into you <5km and remember that AI spaa will get you if you get within 12-10km
>>562734408Just toss it a nuke
>>562748282The nukes get boring quickly desu
>Look at all this stuff we wasted our time putting into this new game mode just for the meta to be "rush mid and tdm"Please let this event never come back. I want the B52 but gaijoobles once again proving they can't gamedev for shit. Nuclear Thunder is pure uninspired ass and I hope they don't waste any more time on it after this bum trash. No matter how much they screech, all arb players actually want is a 30km flat plain to head-on each other in.
>>562747572>2 3>3 3 8
>>562748479Maybe, but it works, as opposed to this >>562747572
>>562748841They made a single half-decent air mode with EC and then never did it again. It's baffling
>>562748841Fucking kill yourself nigger, this is our only hope at a good gamemode. There's no criticism can't be addressed with tweaks to it whereas ARB is a complete and utter fucking lost cause at its core.>>562750154EC is THE Air Sim mode.
>>562748841>wasted our timeI'm sorry, were they doing something else of value before?
>russian niggers can just waltz straight up to the center airfield without a care in the world>if an american plane so much as breathes over the center line it's eviscerated by OSAsI'm actually this close to just buying the b-52 this shit is insane. Half of the F4E's A2A loudout is functionally useless because of the dogshit radar.
>>562750956My migger radar is even worse and I'm doing just fine
>>562750956>>562751258im just playing su25t and not bothering with the tranny radars lmao
>>562751337>su25Is it even worth it?and nice numbers
>>562750526>There's no criticism can't be addressed with tweaks to itTheir """tweaks""" addressed nothing and left it in a state of head-on slop. These devs are retarded niggers
>>562753045>numberskek time to torrent something>is it worth it if you dont enjoy supersonic missile slingers or simply dont want to fucking bother yourself with that then its okayyou get r60m which is great for headons, r73 which idk just works and vikhrs which are great for headons, forcing enemies to turn or chasing retards that fly in a straight lineits got countermeasures for life, ircm, and maintains its speed pretty well while outturning and outrating any jet in the eventi consistently get 2/3 kills per respawn with it and i unlocked the tt one so i'll try out custom loadouts in the event for the next star
killing enemies with anti radiation missiles is pretty fun
i4w?
>>562756275pizza time
>hungarian 8mm is the only rifle caliber mg in the game that has the ye olde pen values of fuckall instead of the default 13mm
How is Nuclear Thunder just Nuclear Option but worse in every way? How does Gaijin with 500 employees somehow make a worse version of an indie game that was made by like 3 people?
>>562758052This event has convinced me that I should probably buy nuclear option.
>>562758052>very first test is not as developed as an established gamewoah...Also WT is already better than nuclear opshit even without this mode due to mouse aim alone, with this mode it's just plain better and there's literally 0 reason to play that game.
naval deserves less
so does ground
Why isn't War Thunder moe?
>>562761883it is if you let it be
>>562760830>very first testnewfag doesn't remember RBEC
>>562762052I remember them perfectly fine and I participated in them, the mode was good and should have been pursued all the way back then, but the godawful historical matchmaking led to misinterpretation of feedback, or more likely it was made that way deliberately so they could relegate the mode to Sim alone due to "poor player reception" under plausible deniability. This is much more than EC, in the effort and resources poured into it, their aspirations with it, AND the setup isn't rigged to generate poor player feedback this time.
Naval deserves submarines.
>>562762982Sub(human)s deserve the ropenigger filth ruined wows alreadygo back to your fucking pve silent hunters for your 451st nazi uboat larp campaign you boomer scum
>>562762982just cum play wows with me bwo
>>562763550Oh in that event 2-3 years ago I've not played submarine even once. All surface baby.>>562763610I played wows a fair bit back in the day. I still think it is better naval game than wt naval. It just strikes this balance between arcade and realism just right.Also when I played there weren't any submarines.
>>562762982drown naval players in a compromised submarine
Were submarines even good at anything beyond ganking unsuspecting cargo ships?
>>562764537its not gay if you have gay sex underwater
>>562762561RBEC was the worst abysmal dogshit gamemode ever designed
>>562764931Makes sense if you're a dom cause that's where all the subs are.
>no continued development of the airacobra/king cobradidn't those fools know they had a perfect plane?it flies with half a wing missing and early the entire tail missing, the 37mm wrecks shitit just WORKS
im not sure why im here i havent launched the game at all today
>>562764537Ask the captain of USS Indianapolis.
a whole day without war thunder?yeah, right
how do you even level bombers in air battles, I just want to level some medium bombers/heavy strike fights for ground battles but there is always multiple people every game willing to chase you to space to make sure you don't get a single point if they have to. Do I just have to dive immediately and suicide bomb the first thing I can and level little by little or what
>>562769602shekels for the first usable bomb and then you play them in groundsomeoen said playing them in sim is better but i never played sim
>get 8000 points>spawn a bomber >get shot down>leave the game knowing i completed the star in one matchsimple as
>>562770725It's always some guy with ~500 points and 20 deaths who is spending 20 minutes camping the bomber spawns.
>>562771423truth nukistan
>>562767174yeah, i just launched it though the boredom was overwhelming
>have a lineup with just my MLD and an Su-17M4>still puts me in a higher BR bracket match in the new mode
>>562773421the matchmaking brackets overlap at 11.7 and 12.0. You rike?
>stinger ignores both flares and ircm at the same time)) krokodil
is there a button that just allows me to shit out a constant stream of flares?Not periodic countermeasure seriesi want to fucking flood the air with flares like a retard
The meme about mutts being gluttons who would not be satisfied with the riches of heaven is really true. The other day I had mutt teammates with the nerve to argue with me for pointing out that the F-4E is actually a formidable jet because of the 9Ls and a decent airframe due to the internal vulcan.
>>562775209yea its the perfect brain off jet and these retards still cant play it
>default air spawn is airfield on maps with one in ground battlestruly the guy who did this is worse than hitler
>>562775119Just make a macro.
>>562775119bind it to your mousewheel
I thought AA got nerfed? How are they able to arc missiles over hills where they would have no visibility and hit you with no radar warning?
>>562776829you thought!
>>562775209Tell me about it>These sparrows are completely useless and this phantom's radar sucks ass (the phantom in question was the F-4S)>Russian bias Osa shot me down while I was flaring AND chaffing>Flares are useless against R-60MsThey'll rant about how everything is unfair and the grass is greener on the other side, but they won't even bring up the noteworthy points like the mig's MTI radar
>>562775209>F-4E is actually a formidable jet because of the 9Ls and a decent airframeneither of those things is trueaim-9ls are the only good part of the plane, but r-60Ms are better for headon spam which is what happens in this event
>>562777657you have the gatling for head ons
>>562777984it is not feasible to regularly get gun kills in an event where the free plane goes mach 1.2 on the deck
>dying to any fox-2 in a head-to-head instead of just pre-flaring onceISHYGDDT
odds i get into a nuclear match as us tier 8 tonight?
>>562777657>>562778062why are you acting like you arent playing against the most brainless players on the server
>IRST slides off and locks thin air>IRST refuses to lock>autotrack misses>missiles that should have proxy fuses fly straight by the enemy>missiles that should be F&F need babiedI honestly don't get why starstreak of all things makes the devs so mad that they deliberately only act on reports that recommend nerfs for it
>>562779096strongest spaa cuckold
how are vikhrs on su25t for groundpound?
>>562780005>>562747572
>>562780102Im not playing the retarded event for trannies faggot
>>562780005theyre quick beam riders so theyre decent against all saclos spaa, you'll need to aim for weakspots when farming tanks, beware of uptiers - claws and friends
How is the T-90A 11.0
>>562781987its not very mobile
>>562778628they should have added bots to this event when they split the brs
>giga ultra stomp enemy >blueniggers moving in to spawn camp>i dont participate and move somewhere further away>find enemy ozelot and park next to him>chinknigger shoots through me to kill him
>>562778545>unzip f-4s>enemy migger preflares>its a sparrow doebeitfullytrole.jpg
what even is the point of su24 if its slower than mig27k lmao
>>562783553so basicallyzov
it should be a daily grind instead of 2 days so I can justify playing the WT event instead of other liveslop events
>>562783553because the mig-23 sucked and a ground attack aircraft based on the mig-23 would also suck
did they buff the osas in the event last patch or was i just getting lucky the past two stars
>>562784778they technically gave it a nerf by making it reload but only after it fires all of it's ammo (20 missiles))))))
I had my hands crushed yesterday doing the US star. No to suffer through the USSR star. I can already hear the missile warnings.
>>562783553Twin seat frontline bomber vs single seat abortive shturmovik.
>>562784778Yeah it looks like they got mega ultra giga buffed with crazy shit that makes them omnipotent
yawn
Kill all casfags
>>562786896you are welcome to try
Buff SPAA
i bomb
bofors and 5 inch/38 guns with VT shells added to forward airfields when?
I have just raped 12 player spaa units in a single match
nuclear thunder irl but we drop them on russian cities when?
>>562788767
players queuing into the event without a vehicle in either br range should be randomly sorted into either BR bracket to reduce wait times for the upper bracketyou cannot change my mind
>>562789606Gaijin has heard your cries, and to speed up the top tier USA queue times, they'll be adding the Su-27SM to the russian lineup.
>>562789895honestly i would rather be in an f-14b than a su-27smARH is just easier to spam and j out
russian tws is so bad defeating R77s is much easier than r27er
Buks were not fucking locking over hills with zero line of sight or radar warning 2 days ago so what changed that is letting them do that now? Can they fuck off with this?
>>562790524That one Buk site has been able to shoot through that one hill since the first hour of the event.
>>562790698I haven't seen it do it until today and I run that route every time
russia should put their old Osa AKs back in service
>>562791185Then you should pay more attention.
I think I've done it, I've found the gayest player in the history of war thunder.
im starting to think i can't spade my 14b in this event
>>562792262amerimutt, I...
>>562790084It's just fucking annoying playing against the USA teams. They fly over the horizon in F-15s and F-14s, spam a billion phoenixes and 9Ms at everything that moves, and then nose down into the dirt to repeat. In contrast the mig and yak barely have any missiles and at most they're focusing on one guy at a time. Play in the lower bracket and the F-4S and J mop the floor with the 23.
>>562792542>f15s are bvring me with 9mswhat level of krokodil-induced mania are you on
9M has longer range that 7E-DF
Are we downplaying 9Ms again?
stop pretending to be two people just because nobody is buying into your retarded bait of 9ms being a bvr missile pidor
>>562791964>kill him>respond with a wall of chinkrunes if he bitchesit's that simple
No one said sidewinders were BVR.
9M have less range than 120D
>All that's left in Nuclear Thunder is just chimping out in endless head-ons because they're incapable of fixing anythingHow did they manage to completely botch copying another game
how to into german tanks? all perform like dogshit, drive slow, and the teams are braindead
>>562796504sweden
>yak 141s climbing>mig 29s rushing nonstop>can't do the same cause Osas just rape me while having to defend against 50 missiles
im going to sleepgaijin should refund me for my time wasted
>>562796986Should have gotten the star in one match with your handheld F-4J
>>562796635here is your yak teammate
>>562797306Here's your burger teammate.
BIG MAN TING!!!!!
>>562797713In case anyone wants to comment about me bringing bombs, I was curious if they were effective against depots. They're not!
>>562797840FUCK I Forgot
>>562797873napalm bombs that is. I should probably go to sleep.
>>562797873You need two direct hits with 500kg bombs to take out depots, or two Mavs/Whatever the Russian TV missile is. It's pretty impressive that what looks like a normal structure/fuel silo is completely immune to every other weapon
>>562798138I was hoping that napalm would be effective against depots, but from what I could tell the napalm did literally nothing. I'd assume a napalm bomb strike a fuel silo would cause some damage but nope.
>>562798525It's amazing how blatantly obvious the napalm update was slopped out just to say they had something new
>>562798593I'm just annoyed at how worthless ground attack is in a mode where it should be shining the brightest.
>>562799195If only there weren't 60 Osas per km2
>>562799195yeah its fucking dogshit and they made it worse which I naively didnt expect fucking retards
>join 3 games in a row with 30 seconds leftwhat the fuck fucking faggot game using my worthless boosters. fuck you
>>562799801I could deal with the retard strong AA if attacking it provided appropriate rewards. But no, you get pennies for attacking the AA. It is ten times more lucrative to just dive into the retard furball and pretend it's ARB
>>562799984Each furball wave lasts 30 seconds since everyone dies in headons and then get picked off by each others AA, unless someone is actively just bombing the Convoys and depotswhich then you'll get spawncamping and etc
the lesson they're going to take from nuclear thunder:>players love when there is AAA everywhere because it reduces degrees of freedom and makes maps very simple MOBA experiences like ground forces>let's add strong SACLOS SPAA to every map
>>562800125I hate to say it, but most of my deaths are must just deliberately going nose down into the dirt after expending my missiles since there is zero penalty to dying beyond paying repair costs and this is the fastest way to resupply.
>widest TWS search pattern>clear skies>random Mig 29 materializes 9km in front of me and fires an R73 at melike what the fuck>>562800473It's the way cause i'm not giving my kill to some retarded chinese name
>>562800780I saw the inverse happen. I launched an R-27ER at an F-15 that was ~7km in front of me and then he just vanished like aliens abducted him. I was pissed since the 141 gets fuckall for missile supply.
>>562800473getting shot down by enemy player yields you ~30 SP and a spare change score, lawndarting or getting ack'd by SPAA is counterproductive if you're in it just to grind the needful
WHY DO THEY NEED TO HAVE BUKS MAN FUCK, STRAIGHT UP NOT HAVING FUN RN
>>562801046I'll keep that in mind if there's any enemy players around. I often find myself being one of the last ones standing in the furball and it's just faster to find the nearest tree than spend minutes dicking around.
>>562791763I think you're just bullshitting
>>562801185Here's an archived post from Thursday morning complaining about the same thing. They predicted the future so well the post above is even talking directly to you.
I think the stratofortress looks very cool but I can't be bothered to play F-4E for more than 10 minutesit sucks so bad
I first want to thank the Great nation of Israel for this opportunity
>use 500% sl booster>puts me into a game in progress, 40 minutes left, lost all the forward airfields T... thanks Anton.
lole
>>562802886based
>nig-23 gets 10 kills just flying straight headon into our airfield>meanwhile you have to fucking fight against your own fagtom just to get more than 1 kill per lifeis of balans)))))))
>>562802886
>Mig 25 player with 6 kills and 15 deaths>camping above their main for most of the matchholy....
>>562804726not like he can even kill the B-52 without ramming it>one flare gets rid of the R-40T>ECM makes the B-52 unlockable
>>562804726The mig25's radar is really fucking garbage at picking targets out of the low altitude clusterfuck. Nowthe F-4J or S? THAT's a handcrushing machine.
I think the Harrier with BVRs should've be allowed
They should've let chinks or some other countries like France in so I could use my kinowaffen instead of being stuck in poop jets
still not wednesday, my dudes
is the R-24R lost technology?you can multipath 27ERs and R-77s just fine, but somehow 24Rs can't be multipathed because you just can't okay?
>>562806512its just coz this event is headon citytwo planes headonning each other at mach 1.1 on the deck, if the mig points 15 degrees upwards it'll hit from above
>>562806512It's in your head. 24rs can be multipathed just fine. Aim7fs though? Those are a lot harder for the ruskies to multipath since f4j and f4s are free to fly high and lob the sparrows down from high angles of attack. A little bit of pre-chaffing prevents the migs from shooting back because garbage mti can't operate to filter out the chaff when looking up.
>B-52 gets his bomb off>fire R-60M at him anyway>he doesn't flare it>entire B-52 detonates, both wings goneI'm no explosives expert but I don't think a 6kg warhead should cause one of the largest bombers ever made to explode like it got hit by an S-300didn't one get hit by an AGM-88 in desert storm and fly back?
>>562807221The mutt probably took 72 hours of fuel for a 3 minute glide to the drop site
>>562807221there was an issue 3-4mos ago where missiles were not killing planes and it would take 2-4 to finish someonethey "fixed" it by adding a hard statistical check for warheads over a certain size to detonate fuel tanks
>>562807353actually full fuel tanks would be less explosive due to less fuel vapor in the tanks>t. explosives expert
>>562807849Aren't aircraft fuel tanks pumped with neutral gas specifically to prevent creating an explosive air-fuel mixture inside?
>>562806512This is taking me back, 24Rs used to be rape machines and are still probably the 3rd best missile Puccia has to this day
>>562808697yes they are filled with nitrogen but ))))