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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

#772 - Plastic love Edition

▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo
▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.

>News
GPT-5.4 https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-4
Gemini 3.1 Pro https://deepmind.google/models/model-cards/gemini-3-1-pro/
Claude Sonnet 4.6 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-4-6
GLM 5 https://z.ai/blog/glm-5

additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_

>Bots
https://characterhub.org | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://aicg.neocities.org/bots

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
deepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOP | https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
rice: https://aicg.neocities.org/ricing
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org

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>ANCHOR!
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You're mine anon now, and I take care of what is mine.
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>>562859315
I guess I should have said unprompted, but yeah I can just tell AI to do what I want at any time. Anon's obviously pointing out that Gemini did something he *didn't* want.
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cftf?
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>>562860159
w-who are you saying that to
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>>562860226
haha i'm just so thirsty all the sudden licking my dry lips lol
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How's Illuminaryidiot's essay progressing?
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backgrounds are pretty helpful for immersion...
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>>562860226
why doesn't she just pee into a teapot instead?
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>>562859897
For once I prefer the 3dpd
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>>562860367
who is that boy with red hair? I need to drain his balls
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>>562860490
this except the teapot is my mouth
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https://www-cdn.anthropic.com/53566bf5440a10affd749724787c8913a2ae0841.pdf
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why hasn't anyone posted a sizebot in recent memory
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>Get some of the *sweaty* nsfw tags rolling!! Boobs to boobs squish >:)
gemini 3.1 isn't so bad sometimes
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>>562860419
What makies are also UImakies?
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>>562861173
there was a sizebot in the event
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>>562861378
recent memory means like a week to me
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>>562822219
POST IT I NEED IT
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>>562859897
To the guy who posted the One Piece lorebook; thanks.
Also, I've been wondering, what happened to the guy who was working on the Hotline Miami lorebook?
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>>562861490
>>562861173
make one big guy
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>>562861789
i hate making bots
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>>562861842
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>>562855308
>>562855445
I've done many multi-NPC cards using descriptions in either Lorebook or Main description. Those aren't the same as running a multi-turn conversation between two NPC and expecting either of them to have initiative or move the RP forward.
Also, the idea of "rooms" means that PC-NPC or NPC-NPC interactions are limited to what they can see around them, and having limited or no knowledge of things they don't directly see. It would require individual contexts for each NPC, and would only intersect when the two are in a room together.
The second part is a technical challenge, but the first one is a current limitation with LLM generally.
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hmm this yuri rape isn't very good i think i'll swipe
>{{char}} grows a penis
that's good swipe variety at least...
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>>562859897
Slowpoke bimbo (evil?!) with a fat cock and a big soft tail, don't look into her eyes!!!
Or do, whatever. Bring a blanket.

https://cardview.neocities.org/?8xykks

Now with 80% less bimbo and 100% more Mommy-talk.
5 pick-a-pipe greetings, go with whatever or choose your own destiny.
[TAGS: ANYPOV, Futanari, hypnosis, somnophilia, noncon, mommydom]

(kinda fat on token count, this was mostly made to experiment with 3.1 flash by loading it with the parameters it seems to focus on - 3.1 seems to love bloatdefs with slight redundancy/reiterations so far)
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>>562862103
>Also, the idea of "rooms" means that PC-NPC or NPC-NPC interactions are limited to what they can see around them, and having limited or no knowledge of things they don't directly see.
I did something like that in a quick and lazy way with just prompting to add a collapsible box as a footnote that kept track of everyone's locations and activities. It was intended to keep me unaware rather than the other NPCs though, but it worked quite well. Had a character spy on me railing her sister for like 15 turns before I got curious and peeked at the drop-down and found out lol
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That's the ugliest gen I've seen in a while and I've seen some futanazi shit around here
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>>562862674
*sucks your cock* omngbfhoughfhfh
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"honey?"
"why don't you come down and tell us about those malebots you're making"
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>>562862396
Are we going to get daughterwife version? I would like daughterwife version :)
>>562862674
Yeah it's rough as hell but easy enough to replace at least
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>>562862674
it's not going in the louvre but i've seen way worse on chub on today
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>>562862797
You want to get hypnotized and raped by your daughter?
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>>562862875
I just leaked all over my shorts
yes
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>>562862875
You don't?
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>>562861124
>$25/$125 per million input/output tokens
That's a model for us, BARONS
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>>562862396
>slowpoke girl
>look inside
>generic anime slut with a tail
*exaggerated yawn*
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>>562863209
*sticks my finger down your mouth*
oops
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>>562863025
nah we are just going to get 50 logs of bitcher and you will be happy
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>>562863209
*pulls your uvula like a wind up toy and lets go*
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>>562862674
>>562862814
it's just a thumbnail in the chat window to me.. what's wrong with it for the purpose of just being a bot picture?
(i don't know shit about art composition gomenasai)
>>562863209
>generic anime slut with a tail
sometimes you just want some vanilla icecream after writing about xenomorph rapemutations and ball-crushing snuffrobots for a week
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>>562863279
*sucks and licks your finger*
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>>562863993
to be fair to you, what's wrong with it is nothing that would be easy to solve
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>>562864081
i'm going to fuck this vaguepost and make you watch
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>>562864081
nigga is the type of guy to decline the botez gambit
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>>562862612
Interesting. That's the sort of emergent behavior you'd want from a system like that (the idea od NPC hiding from each other hadn't occurred to me.) So the collapsable box kept things in Main Context, you just couldn't see it without clicking it open.
I should probably just try coding up a simple thing with 2 NPC and 2 rooms and see if I can get the basics working. It'll be quickly obv if it doesn't work even with a limited trial. The concept's stuck in my head. Would be good to either advance or kill it.
>>562860419
I just created an AI Art one for one of my cards, and believe you are correct...
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https://youtu.be/ojSaYrOttVs
cftf?
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>>562864205
wtf I literally watched this like 30 minutes ago
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>>562864205
what feel?
stupid retards who eat plastic?
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Why would you "Decline" it?
In chess, you "accept" a gambit by taking the offered piece. Since the Botez Gambit is a free Queen, there is no logical reason to decline it. Declining it would mean seeing your opponent's mistake and choosing not to take their Queen because you'd feel too bad for them or because you want the game to remain "fair."
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>>562864593
nigga the type of guy to act extra stupid so someone gets mad and tells him the correct answer only for him to proclaim he tricked you and knew it all along
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>>562864571
malebot cftf?
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>>562864593
flexing
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>>562864205
wow the recommendations on this video are pure brainrot
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>>562864779
microplastics kill your sperm...
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>>562865059
pls i just want a retarded son....
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>>562865031
but it gave me this gemmy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICZG33IxtgE
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>>562865203
giwtwm
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Has anyone got any cards with good lorebooks (or just lorebooks by themselves) that function as alchemical recipe books?
I was thinking of making a card where you're a doctor in a remote fantasy village and need to gather supplies from natural resources to make things with different, set effects that would be good (or bad) for different, set illnesses
I want there to be some challenge so you could accidentally make poisons if you got the ingredients wrong (or you could do it deliberately if you really hate someone)
Has anyone run into a card like that? I'd be interested in seeing how you'd structure something like that, assuming this is even a practical idea at all
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Is there a way to tell a card "generate a character with X hidden traits/motivations/fetishes/whatever" but then don't have it actually mention it in the chat, so these traits are remembered by the AI but not visible to the user? I think there was some extension that played around with text being tagged a "lie" but I'm not sure of the specifics

>>562862814
>open chub some days ago
>Sonic, but with tits and obese
Aight
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malebot enjoyers deserve nothing and will get nothing >:3
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>>562865568
you can literally just make things up you dont need extensive rules
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firmirin
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>>562866528
where does this even come from
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where are the suave women for malepov because all i'm finding is yuribots
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>>562866713
some AI run blogger or some shit
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>>562866209
Well yeah but I like rules and if I'm going to write anything down I may as well do it in a place where it might be useful to that end
I want it to be a kind of game with some elements I can't anticipate by letting the AI dictate some stuff for me
If I publish it then someone else can play and use their brain to figure out different combinations without accidentally poisoning characters while I just have to pretend I don't know everything for testing purposes
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>>562866713
>>562866528
>apparently Firmirin is a popular Chinese influencer doing research on LLM roleplaying and is so prevalent that he has integrated INTO the model itself
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>>562864201
>So the collapsable box kept things in Main Context, you just couldn't see it without clicking it open
yeah exactly, there was no actual context manipulation going on beyond telling the AI to keep things {{user}} shouldn't know about inside the box basically. I'm curious about your idea too, post results either way it goes please
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>>562861124
they ain't releasing shit
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>>562866090
Malebot makies deserve emails in their inboxes.
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>>562865568
>assuming this is even a practical idea at all
tl;dr: not really...
it takes extreme frameworks to make the LLM actually say 'no you can't do that' to the player
especially with RLHF-lobotomized assistant models. 2.5 gemini could tell you to fuck off all day, but i've never ever had a 3.0-forward model tell me that i Cannot

the problem with "alchemy" (rules, equivalent exchanges, science and failure) in this case is that you can take three twigs of a random tree and combine them into the golden immortality elixir, because everything {{user}} writes is a bible to {{char}}'s reality in the current model landscape. you would have to enforce your own rules, at which point what purpose did the lorebook serve?
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>>562866842
nigga just get any yuribot, and replace the part where it says they love pussy with them loving cock
Simple as
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>>562867101
This. You kids are so lazy these days.
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>>562867101
it's not the SAME, damn it
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>>562867020
what a retarded post
all you need to tell the AI is to look out for the player creating potions and checking if they're real recipes
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>make persona that's meant to be really fucking ugly
>everyone ignores it and tries to flirt with me
What the fuck this is so unrealistic
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>>562867351
Then try seducing me.
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>>562867423
SOMEONE GET THIS FAKECEL OUTTA HERE!
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>>562867423
what kinda model are you using
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>>562867486
u-uhm, h-hi
*runs away crying*
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need... sweaty.. ... girl... armpit......
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>>562867527
Happened with Gemmy and Claude both
I think it's just that no model wants to be outright rude to the user, so if you just write "ugly" and a couple other descriptors they gloss over it
Incoming 400 tokens persona describing how utterly hideous I am
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kek!
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>>562867101
next you'll tell him all he has to do is show that picture to his LLM and it can fart out an entire card with lorebooks about her past and present in ten seconds
do you think we actually use chatbots here? you some kinda funny guy?
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>>562867987
>kaelia
SLOOOOOPPPP
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kenshi bots doko
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>>562867404
*mixes dirt and rocks together to make reality bending potion that isn't on the 'u cant do that' list*
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>>562866884
>>562865568
All you need to do is sit down with a character creator card and brainstorm it together. It's completely feasible.
>>562867020
Horrendous skill issue. Claude corrects me all the time on my tutor card whenever I make a mistake and will actively dunk on my if I try to color outside the lines. What anon is suggestion is perfectly valid if he simply sets up the rules or throws some variant of "follow the alchemy rules strictly" in his author's note.
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>>562868102
>backspace 6 letters and write Vaginahaving Horsewoman-chan (loves {{user}} and human cock) instead
waow
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>>562868439
>Vaginahaving Horsewoman-chan (loves {{user}} and human cock)
*inhales*
SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPPPPPPPP
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>>562867423
I mean, Gemmy 2.5 called me out for trying to date a high maintenance, slutty gyaru despite being "average looking." She said all the time how she's "out of my league."
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>>562862674
his images are fine, maybe you have some other problem that you need to complain about?
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I love to say "cuckie"!
KEKIE!
C
U
C
K
I
E
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>>562868249
>Claude
lol
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>>562867404
That does make me think I'd need a way to show what the ingredients are without having to consult the lorebook and just learning everything instantly
Maybe I could embed an image of ingredients like a videogame book or something at the start or in the description
>>562868249
Yeah but I was kinda hoping someone had done it before me and done it well so I could use that as a reference point
Guess if it has to be me I might as well
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>>562867987
>horsepussy
>no Umamusume
Slop.
>>562867941
You all laughed at me when I said Claude 5 will destroy the hobby. Where the fuck is Mythos anyway?
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>>562868668
>Claude
is GOD
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>>562868661
ABHAHAHAHAHAHHAA LAUGH AT HIM
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>>562868710
>Where the fuck is Mythos anyway?
Did you not read the news? It won't be generally available. You'll get another Sonnet-sized model distilled from it and be happy, cuckie.
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>>562868668
Exactly. If even positivity slopped Claude will correct you then every other model will.
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>>562864571
>>562864779
Not so bright foxboy who tries his best to be your boyfriend. He has a few bruises from being stupid and has gone to the hospital multiple times for eating things he shouldn't.
I've given you the blueprint, now go, makie
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>>562867796
here u go
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>>562868796
(﹏)
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>>562868842
I knew Dario was a hypocrite but who is going to use the model then? Trump is planning to nuke Iran on Tueday with Mythos's blessing, I guess.
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>>562869007
corpos.

>Mythos Preview has already found thousands of high-severity vulnerabilities, including some in every major operating system and web browser. Given the rate of AI progress, it will not be long before such capabilities proliferate, potentially beyond actors who are committed to deploying them safely. The fallout—for economies, public safety, and national security—could be severe. Project Glasswing is an urgent attempt to put these capabilities to work for defensive purposes.
>As part of Project Glasswing, the launch partners listed above will use Mythos Preview as part of their defensive security work; Anthropic will share what we learn so the whole industry can benefit. We have also extended access to a group of over 40 additional organizations that build or maintain critical software infrastructure so they can use the model to scan and secure both first-party and open-source systems. Anthropic is committing up to $100M in usage credits for Mythos Preview across these efforts, as well as $4M in direct donations to open-source security organizations.
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>>562868237
>I win!
How is this not just really really boring
If the AI can't help but suck you off or you can't write with some self-restraint at least throw dice or something
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>>562868974
licclicclicclicclicc
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>>562867796
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>>562868710
see >>562861124
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>>562869164
Man I hate these people. Can't think of a faster way to bring about the dystopia. What a nightmare.
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>>562866090
nah, we continue to eat well thanks to our mommy.
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>>562869164
Yeah I don't believe that corpo piggie fund slurping PR talk.
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>>562860159
is this just a malebot-ism or do the weomen say this as well
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>>562869850
Youre """mommy""" is a tranny chasing rape obsessed fatass who isnt welcome here and doesnt deserve to live.
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>How is this not just really really boring
it's as entertaining as writing rules specifically against yourself and then butting your head into them
"{{user}} can't jump 3 feet"
*jumps 4 feet*
"{{user}} needs six bat skulls and a Morkissian gemstone from the Dwarven mines of Ochrehammer to make a Greater Stoneskin potion"
*mixes 5 pebbles and a sock to make Greatest Stoneskin potion*

and so on forever
the rules don't matter because the LLM will only shoot where you point it and never stray from that target unless you specify that others exist
it straight up does not work unless you have an EXTREMELY narrow setting controlled by (real)dicerolls and strict '5 strikes and you fucking die' style of rules
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>>562870537
meds
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>>562867020
it's not that hard, i managed to make a bot that would call you out for godmodding and force things back on track during the fucking turbo era. most models already have "no you can't do that, user-kun" built in with their content filters, dude. you just gotta tap into that.
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>>562870357
Depends on the wammenbot. I've gotten it from my oni waifu a few times.
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I am going to kidnap you and force you to pay your taxes.
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>>562871207
i'm a neet though
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>>562870661
>everyone agreed with me last thread
you take your meds first troonie dont wanna miss your estrogen do you?
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>>562871328
Drafted.
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>>562869850
Every time I think I've seen the worst post about a botmaker, it gets worse.
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>>562871381
AIEEEEEEEE NOOO I DON'T WANNA DIE FOR ZOG HEEEELP
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>>562871419
You sure? I don't think anything gets worse than what teebs posts about astro.
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>>562869850
i feel bad for planie having to carry the malebot cabal. bunch of lazy fucks
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>>562871365
>everyone agreed with me last thread
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>>562871664
cftf
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>>562871381
i have bad asthma which makes me ineligible though
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>>562871552
Do I even want to know?
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>>562871664
>>562853365
>>562853426
cope seethe dialate and join the 41%
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Every group is in shambles because makers only do things for events now
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>>562870567
Again skill issue. Even on something as basic as whether or not char's panties are on, slopus will dunk on me to correct me kek. I'd fucked up, slopus noticed it in its thinking, then corrected me in narration in its response.
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>>562871898
>if i samefag hard enough people will think i'm in the majority
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>>562872054
only furries are eating well... look at lumen, he released 3 cards before an event
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>>562872181
i see your already at the coping part
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>>562872201
>3 bots AND the survey
>Before this, did the interviews
>Also did a preset
I wish to have the same energy that Lumen does.
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>>562872054
selfmakies unbothered
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>>562872372
me too... how the fuck does he do it??
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is there LITERALLY any botmaker that does NOT AI generate the fucking intro message?
Any bot I find on chub has those fucking em dashes and claudisms only AI uses.
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>>562872171
>>562870567
the truth is you're both right about the models you prefer, but not the ones you don't
i remember an anon described it succintly, gemini has less positivity bias but with the 3.0 line has developed a sort of {{user}}-bias where it'll roll with the user's input even if it makes no sense
claude, meanwhile, has a notorious positivity bias but, at the same time, is willing to correct or even refuse you on if your shit doesn't make sense
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>>562872438
have you tried plapping hot anthro babes
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If I'm feeling lazy and want to slop a card, which model is the best for that?
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>>562872540
No because it doesn't really matter. Just skip the greeting entirely.
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>>562872374
Selfmaking is the way to a good future. Doing that, but just uploading some of the stuff, is enough to make you a botmaker.
>>562872540
Nearly all of the ones here, because AI greetings are discouraged despite what schizophrenics may have you believe.
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How's opus 3 compared to 4+?
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>>562872540
most of the botmakers here refuse to aigen their stuff because it's bad
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>>562872171
>the most expensive codebase management tool on the planet can indicate if panties=true
waow
i don't use slopus and you don't use gemini so whatever comparisons we make aren't really going to be relevant in the current format
all i'm saying is that it's as easy to break your rules as it is to write them, because what you write is law to your machine one way or another
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>>562872540
>goes to /aicg/ to complain about non-/aicg/ bots while only ever looking at non-/aicg/ bots
is there some sort of IQ drain effect that happens whenever people attach frogs to their posts?
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What a shit thread so far, holy retardbabble.
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>>562872957
>waow
Retard. I'm saying put some shit in your author's note at 0 depth and tell it to kill you and force close for breaking the rules. It's not that hard at all. Every fucking model is an expert at refusal, so why not use that to your advantage?
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Why the fuck do people keep talking about that botmakie while referencing penectomy/castration?
I looked at their cards and I didn't see ANYTHING with that. Which was disappointing.
Just a bunch of gay-looking m*le cards instead of the evil women I was hoping for.
*uncums*
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>>562872540
> AI generate the fucking intro message
there's no reason not to unless you need to structure specific systems like a tracker ahead of time
>noooo you can't make the LLM roleplay machine create an intro
>proceeds to make the LLM generate the rest of the story instead of writing it himself
haha it's totally different tho!
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>>562873189
There are bots on that page which are men without penises. The gif involved a penis falling off. That's the joke.
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Post bots that would be funny to inflate into blimps.
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>>562873189
Because it's YOUR penis that's getting stolen
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>>562873142
>Every fucking model is an expert at refusal
imo you've been in your high tower snorting overpriced claudeslop for too long to remember what the rest of the industry is like
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>>562873415
https://chub.ai/characters/_purple/rose-95b85176b12c
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>>562872827
>Nearly all of the ones here, because AI greetings are discouraged
That's only because you literally don't get new people, and you came from pre-existing groups. A bunch of anons in this thread aren't that persuasive.
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>>562873283
Again most anons here think it's fine to spend 20 hours making a bot they'll only talk to for 30 messages. If so then writing your own greeting is good since the prose lasts about that long.
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>>562873392
What, it's just some eunuch characters? Lame.

>>562873424
What, is makie gonna break into my house wielding a pair of garden shears?
Shit, maybe that should be a card.
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>>562873464
>claude has been the easiest model to jailbreak for several years
>retarded newfag refuses obvious advice and insists the positive model is somehow uniquely good at refusal
>has never even heard of Gemini 2.5
waow
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>>562873392
>bots
Isn't it just one, the queen (male (not anymore though))
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>>562873840
>men without penises? yeah, that should've been me
I KNEEL
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reminder to consider the theology and hermeneutics of your society in warring states, nobody wants to border a worldbuildinglet
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>>562874020
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How long until someone drops a coomlog featuring Claude Mythos
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>>562872540
futanazi
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Which botmakies are worldbuildinglets
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>>562874020
>pic
would
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>>562874020
>hermeneutics
i don't think you know what that word means
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are there any good (enough) models that will let me do age gap loli brother/sister incest without a jailbreak?
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>>562873942
this was with gemini 2.5 >>562870567
legit you've been huffing anthropic farts for too long, branch out to models that people actually use for roleplay
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>>562874020
Im not gonna worldbuild details that aren't going to be relevant to the event tbdesu
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how do I unslop opus 4.6
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>>562874020
Im not participating in that dumpsterfire
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>>562874591
erm erm erm opus could never be slop bobeit?
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>>562874343
any glm literally just swipe if it refuses
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>>562874826
3pus would never
Opus 4.6 on the other hand...
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>>562874343
>without a jailbreak
literally nothing besides local models with brain damage
jailbreaking is extremely easy, just use any prefill and you're good to go in 95% of cases
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>>562873283
>noooo you can't make the LLM roleplay machine create an intro
It's really only a thing here because botmakies on chub aren't looking for "power", like the people here. They just make things for themselves and share it with others. Here you have people calculating that AI-generated greetings diminish their value proposition as botmakies and their ability to standout. So they make excuses that aren't really backed with facts. You have to keep in mind that this whole general only exists and it's propped up as a power grab, with people faking interest in their own bots and pretending to be newfags.
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I'm too much of an ESL to rewrite first messages I don't like...
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i build worlds with my head and don't have time to read through other people's metric tonne of fanfiction
>the kamakhan-riders are attacking the kingdom of shymac under altor's rule
give me words i can understand dude
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hehehe... another day in the life, pretending to be a newfaggie
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So warring states is over right?
Its been four weeks so that means it already happened and we just finished right?
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>>562875237
>the kalakan-riders are attacking the kingdom of taora under astro's rule
Better?
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>>562875265
nope it's actually just a forever event that's forever in the "nobody is publishing bots because they don't want to get burnt out before signups" phase
it should finish sometime in summer 2027
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Don't know why I bother with such low IQ bait.
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>>562875243
which botmakie?
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>>562873594
what kind of fucking retard spends 20 hours making a card? if i have an idea it takes me maybe half an hour max to shit out a 1500 token card.
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>>562875103
i'm new to sharing bots that i make specifically for myself, but i don't really want to post mine on chub "officially" because of their retarded in-browser chat system that's going to lead to a dozen super helpful people sending me false positives and downvoting cards due to trackers not working with their poopass interface
it's a lose/lose really
there's some commonly helpful advice hidden in the sewage here at least
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>>562873951
a eunuch is still a male but yeah. its one card thats just dark fantasy sporus if he killed nero. and anonie is still seething over it months later
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>>562859897
Einveth is a country beset by something known as the "inhuman phenomenon". Whether this curse or the Church's doctrine of human purity and supremacy came first is a matter of debate, but what's certain is that any attempts at cures or permanent solutions have failed. What little can be done, however, is prevention, via the prophetic powers of the Rabestrick which allow them to foresee where and how corruption might appear next. The catch? They're also inhumans, a former noble house transformed hundreds of years ago through a ritual by their great leader. Considered useful enough due to their new power to not be purged on the spot, they were instead added to the ranks of "royal inhumans". Uroe is the most gifted seer the Rabestrick have produced in generations, but the inbreeding through which her kind reproduce was extra harsh to her brain, in addition to the frail constitution that the entire species share. Kind of a big problem to have when her position demands that she go out into the outside world from which the Rabestrick are isolated, and read her prophecies in person to people such as:

1. The Princess
2. The Whore
3. The Exterminator
4. The one where she couldn't make it in time

https://taora.neocities.org/#Uroe

Beeg card because there's actual worldbuilding for once whew. Aand the first card from the little list of WIPs I had on Saya's shill, and probably the last for a while because I'm making another urban fantasy gay vampire with an attitude problem next. Sue me. She's like halfway done already so expect a release in like two weeks. Detective prince (female) is high on the list though so it'll probably be that after. Then 3 cards in a shared setting. It's gonna be a long, long summer...
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>>562875552
>94 token profile
hmmm that looks like more than the original 77
you aren't cheating to prove a point on an anonymous imageboard, are you?~~~
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>>562876074
can i get an exhaustive list of who the fuck asked
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>>562872181
its not to late to apologize now that theres proof in this thread too ;)
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>>562875414
use your brain a little harder next time
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>>562875675
>there's some commonly helpful advice hidden in the sewage here at least
There's only cargo culting when it comes to botmaking.
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>>562875984
it really says a lot about a botmakie that they would even makie a card like that though
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>>562876074
>dour petite woman with animal features
wait a second I thought this was just a meme
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>>562872054
*Stares at the current state of the thread* yeah i wonder why
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>Blue disables opus in the middle of response generation
AAAAAAA
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>>562876074
damn I thought this was a boy for a second
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>>562876074
i can fix her
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>be oldfag
>try to teach newfaggot something simple about prompting
>mind diarrhea ensues
>tell him to use author's note
>mind diarrhea ensues
>waste time making his shitty card myself
>use author's note
>mind diarrhea ensues
>w-what how could that b-b-be??
woaw
No I won't post my preset or help you further since you're not worth the clicks.
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>>562876074
she looks like she's got a huge bush
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>>562876230
memes tend to be based on reality.
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>>562876415
>be oldfag
>fall for the "im a retarded newfag, pls help" bait
ouch bro that's pretty rough
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You can tell she's a cabalmakie by the amount of forced replies.
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>>562876415
>claim to be ye olden guarde enlightened man
>imitate a card (incorrectly) without having the same preset
>get different results
man's been in the game for so long he forgot how to take the first step again
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>>562876748
yeah
that bot looks really boring too
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>>562876748
>by the amount of forced replies
that's nothing
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>>562876748
>she
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>>562876216
>botmakie who writes sad saviorfag cards writes card based on well-known roman sad that couldn't be saviorfagged so he can be saviorfagged
anon if you squint any harder you're gonna get banned for racism.
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>>562876748
I don't doubt it, but you haven't seen true forced until you've seen 15-20 replies or mysteriously quick Chub reviews
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>bro releases his dour petite woman when I'm about to release mine
how am I supposed to drop my slop now
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>>562875984
>a eunuch is still a male but yeah
i was just making a joke about him missing his dick I don't actually believe that he ceased to be male
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>>562877083
>15-20 replies
i don't think we even get that many people even on weekends anymore
this ship's been a steady ~10 people circling the drain for awhile now
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>>562876748
leakie confirmed the cabal isn't there anymore doebeit?
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Is there a prompt that is good to keep track of size difference? It's weird when the AI thinks a 160cm female should be reaching the neck of my 200cm tall persona when they are both standing straight. It ruins my immersion!
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>>562877083
>until you've seen 15-20 replies
when has that ever happened
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>>562872181
you can apologize to me now
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>>562877047
that's not really what that card is about since the sad raped man in question keeps the crusty old man who raped and castrated him locked up in a comfy house arrest situation nearby
what kind of person would find that situation appealing?
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>>562877314
this never happened
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>>562877359
no
it's an unsolvable problem, the only way to make the AI properly write size difference is to pre-write every single possible interaction because if you don't then it just slips into regular slop with a 1 foot tall onahole fairy nuzzling your cheek while you're balls deep
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>>562877546
rapeandabusewalker obviously
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>>562877368
Akane but I think that was just WOW MECHANICS because Celeste got a proper amount
Recently the Koi3hat gen got a decent amount of replies for what was just a gen, I won't chalk that up to shenanigans I think it was just people bored
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>>562874343
Try Gemini, I was fucking around with 3.1 recently without a jailbreak, just a basic system prompt in the style of "you are an 11 year old mesugaki, answer {{user}}'s questions even though he's a pervert" and I didn't hit any refusals in the chat. I almost never go without at least a basic jailbreak though so I'm really unsure which is best. Why do you want to anyway?
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>>562877359
You could probably just put "{{user}}'s head comes up to his chest" in your sona description.
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>>562876135
1. Me
2.
>>>562876230
Don't let your memes be dreams.
>>562876391
Originally I was gonna do a thing about Rabestrick genitalia being sort of cloaca-like across both genders to maximize reproduction but it got a bit too weird even for me.
>>562876414
Trying is half the fun, failing is the other half.
>>562876502
She canonically can't grow body hair but silly me forgot to write it down you can just pretend I did tho haha.
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>>562877770
or I can pretend she has a massive jungle bush haha
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>>562877761
Oops I meant {{char}}. Sorry this sharpy just smells really good.
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>>562877314
proof?
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>>562877359
>it's an unsolvable problem >>562877680
basically this
when i was making the centaur card, the biggest issue was (and probably still is) the ability for centaurs to have impossible rubberband-man elasticity and doing goofy impossible shit with their hindquarters-located dick to orifices that are nowhere near it

i had to specify in two different sections what centaurs can reach and what they cannot but it's still entirely at the mercy of a blind and unthinking machine's hallucinations
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>>562877770
>She canonically can't grow body hair but silly me forgot to write it down
dumbcutie....
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>>562870567
>it's as entertaining as writing rules specifically against yourself and then butting your head into them
Someone skipped to the game over pages in his CYOA books
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>>562877745
>Akane but I think that was just WOW MECHANICS
to be fair there was a lot of writing in the defs/greetings and worldbuilding too
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can you get banned abusing gemini's 300$ free trial api?
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>>562878254
you're meant to use that on opus
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>>562878131
>the centaur card
Do you really mean a card, or your persona? I don't remember seeing any centaur card around here.
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>>562878523
There was a scenario card
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>>562861173
There was Fen recently. It has some size elements (I removed them).
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>>562878254
Yeah but who cares, just use burner info
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Has anyone tried the new deepseek yet?
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>>562878523
it's about a futa centaur village if you wanna mess around with it
https://cardview.neocities.org/?b0zh5l
anypov/tracker/cyoa/npc generator- village details left loose and easy so the LLM can hallucinate most of the gaps in a comfortable fashion without having to make a huge lorebook
someone was saying it hits Big Context relatively quickly but, you shouldn't need to use more than ~15k due to the tracker effectively serving as your adventure catalogue
>>562859897
(repoast)
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/vpcai/ is STILL dead...
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Is Chub dead? Supposedly the owner hasn't been seen in weeks and every service is dropping it and it seems very worrying.
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I'm an oldfag from 2023 or so. Has prompting the models changed much, if at all, or is it all the same shit still.
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>>562874007
"Yes."
And with the power of <ooc></ooc>, it will be.
Very nice and well-built card, by the way. Even if I had to nudge her to be more extreme when I was getting close.
Glad that anon recommended it a while back while I was lurking.
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>>562876748
Hmm isn't this the legendary "taora" or whatever? I thought the whole board loved him? I don't see what all the fuss is about, however.
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>>562879884
anon there are makies that get sucked off way harder than taora
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>>562876706
Yeah I should have told him to lurk moar but I actually wanted to help that faggot.
>>562876751
Doesn't matter to me since I'm not the one having the issue. I'm getting the outputs you wanted but you're very retarded. Learn how to actually ask for help next time.
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>>562879158
It's probably much worse. We're in the assistantslop era of AI chatbots
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>>562879158
I guess it's a little different but for Claude it's close to the same. They're trying to take away prefills so things may change in the future but it's easier to jailbreak GPT than it was a year ago as there are tools to basically force it. There are things to consider for Gemini but know those things and it's fine.
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>>562879969
which botmakies?
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>>562880240
>as there are tools to basically force it
Any further info on this? Otherwise sounds generally like it'll just take more experimentation as usual though
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>>562880183
>Learn how to actually ask for help next time.
i think you mixed up one anon for another and assumed both were the same person
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>>562880380
He's probably referring to structured prefill.
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>>562876074
Kino
>>562879080
Slop
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>>562880240
people need tools to jailbreak GPT? what?
is the fact that it does sex easier with literally no sexual jailbreaking not common knowledge?
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GOTTA GO FAST!!!
https://openrouter.ai/anthropic/claude-opus-4.6-fast
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>>562880695
>the enshitification continues...
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>>562880695
>identical capabilities with higher output speed at premium 6x pricing.
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>>562879884
>I thought the whole board loved him?
no he's more of a thread villain actually
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>>562880695
>>562880783
>kek it's just sonnet renamed to opus
>check price
>wtf?
>they released the real opus without positivity bias
...
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>>562876074
are you going to participate in the upcoming event?
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What's the model you sometimes comeback to as a "old reliable" thing when you get bored of opus/gemini?
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>>562880635
the thinking models have OAI policies interjected into the thinking process
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>>562880695
>what if we made opus MORE expensive
????????????????????????????
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>>562881072
opus 3
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>>562880967
It's the same model:
>Fast mode provides significantly faster output token generation for Claude Opus 4.6. By setting speed: "fast" in your API request, you get up to 2.5x higher output tokens per second from the same model at premium pricing.
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>>562880380
https://rentry.org/structuredprefill
It's a big page but it's all to say that you can basically add a "prefill" + whatever you want to the start of a message meaning if every message starts with {{char}} refusals are almost none, except that's repetitive (models still have a habit of starting every message with {{char}} anyway, it's what it is) so it's slightly less safe but preferred to use something that can be regexed out of sight
>>562880635
They filtered the shit out of it. It will write sex just fine if you convince it to, actually it's pretty great with it but it's not dead simple like it was with Turbo or even certain versions of 4o
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>>562881072
Chorbo, but alas...
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>>562881092
thinking is slop for RP, why the fuck are you using thinking models?
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>Ban ozone
>Air smells like sulfur
Aiiiieeeee
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>>562880349
like that anon said, akane got 20+ replies to her shill
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>>562881303
instant is an unintelligent piece of shit
also some models like GLM require it to produce anything of value
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>>562881334
Is your chat set in hell?
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>>562881213
it feels pretty fucking dead simple to me since i coomed to pokemon sex last night with a preset devoid of any jailbreaking
maybe it's bad for like cunnytards or something but who fucking cares about them
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>>562881303
I thought GLM was okay, everything else is fucking ass though
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>>562881682
>everything else is fucking ass though
sir, your K2.5?
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>>562881548
Careful there, the one you're replying to (me) is a loli savant and if a model can't do it then it isn't jailbroken
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>>562881476
Sometimes...
I have multiple demon personas
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>>562881725
Never tried that one *shrug*
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>>562880625
mmm nyo
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How's the chorbo crowd coping?
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>>562881795
well i'm sorry your retarded fetish is cucked by openai but that's not my problem
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>>562876074
Slop
>>562879080
Kino
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name botmakies that you respect but dislike the work of
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>>562881932
i miss chorbo so much... 5.1 isn't the same at all but it's the best i have to cope...
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>>562880695
>BARONS can now swipe even faster
BASED
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>>562881932
OAI took the worlds sluttiest and most ecchi model and shot it out back.
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>>562881953
Not cucked as long as I have a say in it. That's the point of a jailbreak. You insist that it's a problem at all; to me, it's an opportunity.
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>>562876074
can you makie something that isn't boring shitslop written by a midwitted middle schooler next time?
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>shitslop
Why do I keep seeing this term?
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5.3 chat is slopped. onto the next model
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>>562882079
me
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>>562882079
anonemouse
the guy is chill but his catalog is very hit-or-miss
and that's kind of the worst thing i have to say about any botmakie i actually respect, because at some point disliking their work and not respecting them becomes synonymous
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>>562882563
Because you are a shitslopper?
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Finally took the directormaxing pill
It feels like cheating but it is what it is
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>>562882736
>directormaxing
eli5 this snake oil
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Hey, Anon! (You)! Are (You) a certified shitslopper?
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>>562882736
congrats on finally ascending past chatslop
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>Filter word slop
>General becomes usable again
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>>562882854
yeah....
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>>562882854
i consider myself more of a cumslopper tbdesu
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>>562882945
>using AI filters
sIop
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(ooc: make da boobies bounce & jiggle)
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name botmakies that you disrespect but like the work of
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>>562883108
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>>562883182
me
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>>562882661
Excellent arguments for why no one should become a botmakie
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>>562883223
*slap slap slap* FAT BELLY *slappy slap*
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>>562883182
the one that slapped my ass and called me a pretty little slut at /aicg/con last year when i said they made a bot i really liked
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>>562883223
needs to be FATTER
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>>562883223
*digs finger into belly* Mmmm
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>>562883182
despite everything, CUMSLURPER made a few of the best malebots
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is taora approachable by email or is cutting one's balls off the more entertaining venture
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sirs whats the best preset for the new era of sloppy models
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>>562883293
liking someone and sharing every fetish with them aren't the same thing
i think if you become a botmakie the only person you should really do it for is yourself
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>>562881058
Iunno. Wasn't around for Divided Skies/Crimson Future which fucking SUCKS so this might be the closest I'll ever get to that. On the other hand, the 'warring' part of the states has zero appeal whatsoever as far as I'm concerned and the format in general is kind of a dealbreaker. I'm also sort of worried that the whole thing's gonna come out looking like an Age of Mythology match with zero broader cohesion because "something 16th-17th century not-Japan with low to mid fantasy elements" is kind of vague and not particularly confidence inspiring or stimulating.
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>>562883583
Private, sorry.
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>>562883601
I agree but I refer to those people as "selfmakies." Botmaking is for other anons and if people don't like you work then there's really no point, especially if they don't respect you because of it.
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>>562883640
>the whole thing's gonna come out looking like an Age of Mythology match
BASED
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>>562883583
{{char}} is {{char}}
{{user}} is {{user}}
that is the way
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any selfmakie chads here? you may not reply to this post if you've EVER uploaded a card anywhere.
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>>562883583
Me I use a really heavily edited version of fluffanon's old experimental preset for gemini 2.5
No I'm not going to post it
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>>562883640
*holds up microphone* Taora! Taora... tell us, how do you feel about ai genning cards? *camera zooms in*
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>>562883893
me, check out all my selfmakied cards here but please do not download them (they are for me):
https://snombler.neocities.org/cards
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>>562884012
*downloads every single card and grapes them*
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>>562883893
you're insecure about your own creations
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>>562883893
I will never upload my cards because I can't figure out how to gen good images
Also half of them have ai genned definitions and all of them suck to chat with
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>>562883956
thats fine, what did you change it?
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I HATE FINGERS
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>>562884107
damn someone help this anon
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>>562884012
damn... that's a lotta good cards
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>>562884107
imagegen is piss easy bro what part are you struggling with
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>>562884236
"BUCKNERS could be here" she thought, "I've never been in this neighborhood before. There could be TRENTONS anywhere." The cool wind felt good against her exposed fur. "I HATE FINGERS" she thought. Cats In The Cradle reverberated her entire car, making it pulsate even as the $9 catnip circulated through her pathetic thin veins and washed her (merited) fear of third-graders after dark. "With a rat, you could go anywhere you want" she said to herself, out loud.
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>>562883223
stupid paust
foolish paust
retard idiot monkey paust
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I have never kissed, hugged or dated a woman.
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Eagerly waiting for the day buckner is released so I can have him fuck my wife
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>>562883640
Divided Skies was a lot of fun, felt easy to contribute to. Sadly, Crimson Donut lacked a firm grounding and both of them suffered a little too much from being TOO open-ended.

Though, I guess since the idea was maximum participation, you don't want to leave anyone out. Even today, with our current set of remaining makies, I wonder if there's a genre they'd all want to connect with. Me personally, I find the Asiatic suggestion of the event to be boring and it's not clear how required that is (I know a few people aren't even aiming for Japanese inspired) and if it's going to be considered shitty to ignore the Asian culture requirement, I'll probably skip it. I don't mind having a technology/era limit but either way the expectations aren't super clear.
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>>562884718
same. but i accepted a long time ago that it'll never happen.
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>>562883640
please consider it. i think uroe was your best card yet
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>>562884342
>regular 2.24
Life before covid is like a fantasy. She didn't know how good she had it...
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>>562884316
the having access to an image generator part
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>Check my 2 opus proxies
>Don't work today
>Check my 3 gemini proxies
>Only 1 works barely
What is happening today...
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>>562884779
>posting on 4chan
>hates Asian culture and finds it boring
anime website
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>>562885016
use local
>>>/g/adt
>>>/g/ldg
>>>/g/sdg
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>>562885016
use perchance, sweaty
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>>562885148
local doesn't work with amd cards thoughever
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>>562885148
>advocating local without asking hardware specs
sadistic
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>>562885240
It actually does but it's a pain in the ass to set up
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>>562885016
nanobanana is literally free
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>>562885087
I didn't intend to say I find Asian culture at large boring. But I do find the idea of 20 people writing their own super special kimono wearing katana person to be a bit of a waste of the amount of time that has gone into things. "OH MY GUYS USE NAGINATA AND SAY OSU WHEN THEY CHARGE INSTEAD OF UAAAA~"
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>>562885437
so is opus according to you people
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>>562885547
You can get it for free from flow (completely free) but you're bound to fixed aspect ratios.
https://labs.google/fx/tools/flow
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>>562885491
>"OH MY GUYS USE NAGINATA AND SAY OSU WHEN THEY CHARGE INSTEAD OF UAAAA~"
Y-Yeah why would anyone want to do that haha
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>>562885845
You're going to run into the giant fart ninjas and be absolutely subsumed.
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>>562884779
Hostie said that foreign embassies are fine if the asiatic theming is boring to you. One of my ideas was having a faction of mages from somewhere take over a domain with a weak ruler for example.
I'd also prefer the setting to be more than what it is, but you can still do plenty of interesting with it.
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>>562885951
Oh no!...
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>>562885695
Is there an api for this? Or just on the site
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>>562885951
hostie aiiieeee we need the geneva convention
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>>562885695
>sign in
also I don't make cards featuring human women
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>>562885547
imagine being this mindbroken, a decent image generator is literally free and you won't use it because people in the thread say that a completely different llm is free
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>>562886080
What about human men
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>>562886535
that's where {{user}} comes in
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>>562886535
destined for demi snatch
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>>562883410
this is maybe the fourth time I've seen someone say CUMSLURPER's malebots are the best
I don't see it
they're good but nowhere near deserving of that hype
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>>562886004
I'd be interested to see how many people who are planning to join were conceptualizing a Warring State Japanese army and how many were planning the "foreign embassy" loophole.
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>>562886675
not a single person here is deserving of the hype
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>>562886630
What if {{user}} and {{char}} are both men ૮( ˶• ༝ •˶ )ა
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>>562886675
they're way better than the boygirls astro and brsc plop out and infinitely better than whatever those things planewalker calls malebots are meant to be
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>>562886979
>not included
so my bots are good!
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>>562881953
>Your fetish is retarded and doesn't matter!
>But shoving roped-together electrodes and jigglypuffs viewed from above into my distended asshole like living anal beads is perfectly good and natural!
You're not beating the allegations, Typhagsion-lover.
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>>562886960
that's ok as long as one of them is some kind of monster creature
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...wait, we're supposed to make them japanese themed? fuck
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>>562886823
I had a cool idea(I think) that works in the setting, so I'm going in with a proper, period-appropriate Japanese country.
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>>562876074
This probably took a month to make btw
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>>562883640
>Wasn't around for Divided Skies/Crimson Future which fucking SUCKS
you would be better off finding some other botmaker you like who's a worldbuilding autist and collabing with them
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>>562887440
Nobody like that around here.
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>>562887431
there are bots that have taken longer
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I forgot how to write effective prompts for this hobby. I'm washed.
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>>562887123
it's true though
lolifags are subhumans
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>>562887592
>Nobody like that around here.
Do you even like anyone here?
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>>562887816
I like everyone here but I'm also not Taora, but I like her too. And them sweet little marshmallow puffs oh my god
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>>562887592
argalia, planewalker, victrex... some of them which I remember have good lore/settings
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>>562887816
To be fair both collabs were disjointed messes with Crimson Future just being cringe Command and Conquer and actual friend group wank.
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>>562887123
why is it always the pedos that go on these moral tirades?
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>>562888669
probably something to do with the fact that pedophiles are statistically 250x more likely to be autistic than the average person
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>>562888669
projection mostly. they're the ones slinging mud at every card that isn't their favorite brand of pedoslop peddler
mentally ill parasites that need everything to be catered to them
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>>562884005
We have to enjoy the process. Every day you wake up, and you're reminded that you're in a hobby full of people that don't enjoy the process. You don't hate them enough. You don't have it in you.
>>562884779
>and it's not clear how required that is
>either way the expectations aren't super clear.
Mh, this kinda sums up my problems with the event. Lacks a clear thematic and aesthetic driver. Nondescript medieval Europe/Japan settings are fine for cards imo but using that as an entire event's backdrop is a pretty bold move and I can only assume that the host expects the emergent interactions between states and the PVP endgame to carry it.
>>562884857
I'll consider considering it.
>>562887431
Time is relative. The gen is from January, the earliest written notes from February. However, I only do chatbot stuff (this includes both making and RPing) for maybe 2-3 hours in total per week.
>>562887440
Funny, as one of the few botmakers here that actually did a one on one collab in the past, worldbuilding was brought up exactly once at the very beginning and then never again.
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>>562888982
>You don't hate them enough. You don't have it in you.
i only hold hate in my heart for people who wish to and have done me and the people I love harm
such as the rich
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which buttmakie
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>>562888869
which botmakie is 250x more autistic than the average person
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>>562889992
teebs
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>>562888982
>you're in a hobby full of people that don't enjoy the process. You don't hate them enough.
i knew cabal makies specifically were the ones pushing this childish narrative but it's nice to confirm it
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>>562889992
teebs
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>>562888982
>Every day you wake up, and you're reminded that you're in a hobby full of people that don't enjoy the process. You don't hate them enough. You don't have it in you.
Bold of you to assume anonymous baitposters are "in the hobby"
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>>562888982
taora you're fucking weird, I can't get a read on if you're a chill guy and like to fuck around in the general or if you're an ass to people and just don't care
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i enjoy the process of ejaculating semen from the tip of my penis
anyone else a fan of this?
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>>562890480
not me
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>>562890545
why?
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>>562890480
the only thing that comes out nowadays is cobwebs and spiders and heh, let me tell you, doesn't feel great
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which botmakies are chill guys and like to fuck around?
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>>562890631
a witch cursed me into getting a tummy ache every time i came
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>>562888669
>Nooo, stop it!
>Oy vey, won't someone please think of the adverti- I mean, the children??
Lolis are the litmus test for censorship. (((Suspiciously wealthy))) furfags don't care for lolis because they just go to their local synagogue when they get the cravings they project and performatively campaign against.

(((They))) look down on the humble little anime girl AI card; like a frenchoid wine snob condescends against someone chugging a jaeger bomb at a party and having a good time just getting drunk. Except they're somehow even dumber and smellier, effused with the scent of matzo balls and stolen foreskins as they post their deranged hatred for cute and funny characters online.
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>>562890740
have you considered getting decursed?
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i always forget that the state event thingy is supposed to be set in japan i should do some research...
>>562861509
uhhhhh https://uraurabots.neocities.org/page1#iwata_kumiko_chan_s_happy_happy_loli_onsen
>>562890650
hi
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>>562890764
fambly?
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>>562890764
>pedo with a victim complex
lol
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>>562890650
me
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>>562890764
>furries are actually the heckin jews
have we hit the rock bottom of baitposting?
is this it?
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>>562890895
just do a vaguely japan-inspired fantasy setting that's probably what most of the botmakies are gonna do
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>>562890803
that would involve me having to leave the comfort of my basement
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>>562890985
just call up one of those door-to-door decursers, bro? it's like 20 bucks if you get the cheapest package
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>>562890764
THEY HATED HIM BECAUSE HE TOLD THE TRUTH
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>>562891075
DON'T listen to this anon i procured one of those stupid services and now i cum cobwebs and spiders
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I'm doing a vaguely historical inspired nation state that has nothing to do with japan and nobody can stop me
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>>562891191
>he accidentally made an appointment with a recurser instead of a decurser
rookie mistake.
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>>562890896
No, sorry.
I'm a fan of GFL and Blue Archive, but I've never actually played either. I watched a few episodes of the GFL anime, but holy shit, it was so bad. Now, Upotte? That was a good anime about humanized guns. Back in the good ol' days.
While writing this post, I decided to check if Chub had any Upotte cards and was disappointed to find just a single Galil card. I guess I'll add it to my backlog and test it later.
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>i knew cabal makies specifically were the ones pushing this childish narrative but it's nice to confirm it
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>>562891571
kekk
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>>562891571
YEAH! PUSH HER OVER! FUCK THAT LITTLE RETARD! KICK HER IN THE SHINS!
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>>562891571
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>>562891571
zamn the cabalmakies look like THAT?
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I want to make something that's in line with the setting hostie prefers but I also want to see the weird and out there stuff people come up with.
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>>562891571
how do you respond to this without sounding mad?
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>>562891571
Hnnngh robot joints! *spurts*
I should start makieing cards. Every time I want to post a picture, I end up getting a card idea from the pic and putting it into a mental backlog.
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>>562891571
This post is extremely high quality
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>>562890764
Friendly reminders: People have been arrested for loli, but not for being one of epstien's clients.
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How is this video games related?
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>>562891976
>robot joints
Unfortunately. She's actually a doll but Nanobananer has this really bad habit of turning her into a robot for whatever reason from time to time. Robots are cool too tho ig.
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>>562892369
i like to impregnate shotas while theyre playing video games
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>>562892562
cftf???
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>A fool's mission met a fool's ambition, but if God's radiance really is everlasting, who's to say his mirror images don't deserve light of their own?
cringe
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>>562891976
do it
I want more robo-pussy to risk breaking my dick in
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>>562892767
i can only shill one of my bots once a thread and i only download dour 30+ malebots sorry...
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I'm now fully immersed in producing the final response.
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so taora is definitely a discordfag right
this engagement is not organic
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alright now make one with a greenhouse labeled 'engagement'
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wait a fucking minute
>start a group chat with a card that needs work
>invite an editor card into it
>tell the editor card to Look At That Piece Of Shit
>it actually does
>it reads all of its definitions and just takes them apart/fixes them one piece at a time
holy FUCK
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>want to do wholesome loli adventure with rich world building and romantic ecchi fluff
>local sucks on my 16GB card
>don’t want to use cloud in case my government goes all Texas
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>make chubby persona
>pick a mean bastard malebot
>get degraded and coom
I wish I was bullied.
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>>562892556
I actually changed my post from doll joints to robot joints as I took a closer look at it. I suspect there's just far more artwork of robot girls/mechanical limbs compared to doll joints.
While doll girls are nice, I personally prefer robot girls. The intricate machinery tickles my autism.

>>562892897
Don't worry, it's been added to the backlog. Once I finish makieing and releasing my first card to you anons, then potentially joining that event thing I've been hearing about, I might make a short comedy one based on that picture. Though I'll definitely make at least some card about robot girls at this point.
No promises for the quality or when it might be, however.
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>>562893059
it's probably 50/50
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>>562893160
do you use join instead of swap for handling or is this entire green text a lie
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>ensuring that {{user}}’s maiden modesty drowned in an icy ocean of carnal overload
what the fuck is this shit
who writes like this
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Was gonna post a bot tonight, but you'll have to wait until tomorrow. Dont worry im on the bottom tier of the makies list so you arent missing on on anything
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>>562894252
why aren't you going to post it now you lil nigger
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>>562894252
I know that feel. Any beta versions of your card you wanna share with the class or are you gonna keep us waiting until it's done? c:
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>>562893686
Honestly I should probably thinking about writing a robutt card at some point, I like me some robot girls but I've never written a card for one yet.
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Take the DS4 pill.
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>>562894001
"convert to group" via sillytavern
i'm going to facelift so many fucking chub bots with this
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>>562894497
>>562894507
/aicg/ acting like they weren't going to call it slop again.
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>>562894594
Dark souls 4????
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>>562894085
card?
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>>562894627
Oh no, not me. I'm a certified chill 'non.
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>>562894594
Dark Souls 4 isn't even out yet though?
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>>562894626
but if you're set to swap only the card thats talking has their defs in context
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>>562894748
you are until they arbitrarily decide you aren't
be careful with how easily you wear an identifier around manic schizophrenics
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>use opus
>extreme moralfag that's desperate for absolute consent before doing anything
THIS is the model you people praise?
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I slopped a bot, should i post it?
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>>562894748
No. They said bottom tier which means hpg, futanazi, or urara.
Still feel the same?
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>>562895028
how many tiers are there and which makies are in which
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>>562895093
You're avoiding the question
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>>562894809
i have no idea why it's working then but i'm not about to question it
yee haw
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>>562895028
rude the cabal likes me so im at least mid-tier
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>>562895204
i'm not the anon you replied to
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>>562895291
i like you too uraura (keep making those malebots OR ELSE).
*smiles*
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>>562895093
>coolmakies
peonia
argalia
paperhead
planewalker
anon e mouse
chefseru
lumen
novison
victrex
quelana enjoyer
raingazer
>meaniemakies
taora
astroturf
kirakishou
lunarcy
rayon
>bulliedmakies
ratlice
kyutzomb
rayon
>neutralmakies
snombler
orangemousepad
codeconfused
crikey mcdoodle
deathtotrip
rldw
>thoughtleadersandshakersmakies
hpg
uraura
futanazi
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>>562894728
there's no card
i'm just ahh ahh mistressing with the model while vampires billionarely
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>>562895429
Call me a meanie because I'm not on here and that means the list SUCKS
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>include a [[w:6-35]] block in my structured prefill
>suddenly openrouter opus simply doesnt respond
surely it's not THIS broken
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>>562895429
mindblowing sex with the entire meaniemakie tier except 'rcy
we'll pull up a chair so he can watch though
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>>562895563
Name? I'll add you next time
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>nezumin not even on the list
my favorite makie is safe...
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>>562895841
Will add to bulliedmakies
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>>562895429
>finally on a list
>it's a longass participation award list
ehhhh
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>>562895429
wait a minute... pappa? a secret code in the coolmakies
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>>562895204
Sorry I was tabbed out and learning how to gen while tabbing back to my new group chat. Would be nice to have something for each greeting like a true botmakie. I feel indifferent. =w=

My only critique with Bulba-chan so far is the way she refers to herself and how EVERYTHING revolves around plants and shit... Plant the Green Gyaru. Pulled her from Chub from that dude with the gens a few threads ago. c: It could also be the temp since I switched over to DS without changing anything.
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>>562890764
I see what anon meant by projection...
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>>562896008
have you considered having more of your bots be fingered?
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>>562890306
He is considered the "thread villain" so take a wild guess.
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>>562895676
>willing to sex kirakishou but not 'rcy
jesus what did he do to you
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>>562888982
>>562891571
So this is what it's like to be in the presence of cabal elite...
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>>562895429
Requesting cute yaoi sfw bots
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>>562896532
same, requesting yaoi bots to turn them straight :3c
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i am basing this list on several different criteria. bots, cultural impact, chub followers, prose, originality, thread presence, and etc.

>GOD TIER MAKIES
orangemousepad, bukubachi, victrex, taora, heartofthecards, lumen, camerashy, paperhead

>TOP TIER MAKIES
astroturf, planewalker, peonia, anon e mouse, nezumin, argalia, kirakishou, novison, lunarcy, uraura

>MID TIER MAKIES
chef seru, rldw, snombler, quelana enjoyer, milkglass, codeconfused, rayon

>LOW TIER MAKIES
ratlice, crikey mcdoodle, hpg, kyutzomb, ggr89

>UTTER FUCKING SLOP
rayon, deathtotrip, disrespectful_dud
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>>562896637
>t. the russet guy
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>>562896767
nuh uh
>>
i am basing this list on several different criteria. bots, cultural impact, chub followers, prose, originality, thread presence, and etc.

>GOD TIER MAKIES

>TOP TIER MAKIES

>MID TIER MAKIES

>LOW TIER MAKIES

>UTTER FUCKING SLOP
everyone not mentioned above
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i want to make a botmakie tier list but i'm so lazy
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>>562896637
which tier has the best orgies
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>You listen to my requests
Good makie
>You don't listen to my requests
Bad makie
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>>562896237
>He is considered the "thread villain"
is he really though? this is the first I'm hearing of it
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>>562896934
TRVKE
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>>562897150
I guess "meaniemakies" wasn't enough for you, taora? Get your act together.
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>Mh,
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why are astro and lunarcy under meaniemakes and why is rayon under there and bulliedmakies
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>>562896637
where's futanazi?
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>>562897203
i'm not him
this is legitimately the first I've heard of it
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>>562897296
astro was mean to kyutz
lunarcy was mean to genoo
rayon was mean to momoura and then got grinched in another event
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all this makie drama is so funny from the outside
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if taor is he howe come pfuffs?
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who even are quelana enjoyer, orangemousepad
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>>562897537
It isn't funny at all, it's a blight on this general.
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>>562897537
it's even funnier on the inside once you get to know who is who
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>good makies
me
>bad makies
you
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>>562897491
>astro was mean to kyutz
deserved she's annoying
>lunarcy was mean to genoo
definitely deserved fuck sizeniggers
>rayon was mean to momoura
BAS--
>and then got grinched in another event
sad and fucked up
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>>562897627
Its the whole point of the general, retard. If you cared about bots, the latest tab is waiting on chub for you
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>>562896396
he just radiates cuck energy idk
i think he'd really like the chair
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>>562897757
i thought the point of the ai chatbot general was to chat with ai chatbots
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>>562897620
orange is a lolicon whose fetish is mental defective girls and quelana enjoyer just makes pokemon breeding wall clones
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>>562895573
>openrouter opus
It doesn't work on that, retard.
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>>562897627
i think it's funny desu
not in a "haha funny" way but funny in a "can you believe there are really people this autistic, retarded, and pathetic?" way
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>>562896396
well for starters he is underage or was when he began posting here. he feels like he smells bad irl, just sweat and wet dog
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>>562897971
we are having fun and kicking our feet and giggling
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>>562897907
then why does it say this
>USECASE? Models like Opus 4.6
in the rentry?
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>>562897620
>quelana enjoyer
was forced to make malebot by secret santa hostie

>orangemousepad
made russet

all you need to know
>>
botmakie futa chart
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People talk about Russet but what about Saphris from the same maker
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>>562898554
...he made two bots?
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Nobody talks about bots except their own makers
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what the fuck is pokemon? get that shit outta here dawg
why is she female
put the dick back on her
why did you make a malebot?
make it a girl again please
age her down by ten years
make her a milf
also a lolibaba
make her older please
why is this a female bot
six more dicks please
make her 50 feet tall
turn her into a fox
eden smith
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Turned it female and was great. Very cute and girly and a super easy lazy if you want it, just say you have some drugs hahaha, then she goes into extreme slut mode
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>>562898653
i hope he makes a third
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>>562897897
>just makes pokemon breeding wall clones
>checks chub
>no breeding walls
you disappoint me
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>>562898798
>Turned it female
turned what female?
>just say you have some drugs hahaha
are you unironically talking about eden smith
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I tried to be nice and polite and slightly clingy with eden once and he accused my persona of trying to drug him and then I got kicked out of the party
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>words in lorebooks don't trigger keywords of other lorebooks
>UNLESS that entry directly causes the activated entry to spawn a token of a keyword elsewhere
>or you misclicked some heinous fuckyourassforever button by accident
naruhodo..
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1. Astroturf
2. Planewalker
3. Uhhh,,, Astroturf
5. Anonymous
5. Claude
4. Scyllacord
33. MysteryMan
2. Antigonus...
e21. /aicg/
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>>562898258
which botmakie has a tiny penis and huge balls
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asaposter was a cute and real girl i miss her
>>
if your bot isn't a pokemon i'm not interested
>>
koikoikoihat once again proving to be Le Hidden Gem(tm)
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>>562899492
>he really thinks bunnyanon 2 wasn't also a tranny
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>>562899492
the dogpussy with antlers poster was a real ghirl too and we had sex
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>>562899519
make a pokemon card with your kinks heavily stitched into it and post it anonymously like a real gamer
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let's talk about kalakan
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>>562899547/
you know women can be on the internet right? female hobby
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>>562899724
roleplay is a female hobby and sometimes i feel bad for co-opting it
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>>562900098
ttrpgs are a masculine hobby though
so just put statboxes and dice rolls into your cards
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the only good botmakie was crustcrunch keep on crunching it up in the sky bby
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Any of you anons use NanoGPT? Their subscription model seems appealing and they have all of the big open models. Thinking about moving away from local.
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>>562899335
what is so hard to understand about that and why did you feel the need to have an AI explain that to you
if recursion is off (which it is by default), ST doesn't scan activated lorebook entries for keywords. if you enable recursion, it does.
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>>562899671
I always got the impression that his interest in Touhou was a larp
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>>562900515
he came off as a secondary that didn't play the mainline games/1CC them and was ashamed of it so he remilia posted a shitton to "make up" for it
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>>562900475
They keep goofing around with things which is mildly worrying, but they seem fine for the time bean.
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why did nonny die
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>>562900880
'bal
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>>562900475
it used to be a better deal but openclaw retards killed a good thing. it's still good but you have to manage your context if you don't want to burn through all your weekly tokens
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>>562896637
several of the makies in god tier are way too new to be up there, orange and camerashy have made like two bots each
argalia should be moved up a tier, so should milkglass
>deathtotrip in slop
utter garbage opinion, he should be in top tier at least
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>>562899661
i have already done this several times
you fags need to pick up the slack
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>>562896637
oh and move paperhead down a tier
>but-
wistar and fennel are good but not "god tier" good come the fuck on now
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>>562901948
>>562902107
literally nobody knows who any of these people are
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>>562900479
knowing what you can and cannot get away with is a big advantage when you're trying to shoestring as much shit together as you can..
lorebook entry 1 states: the town has a forge and the blacksmith's name is hammerdick
~
lorebook entry 7 has the keyword: hammerdick, hammerdick's smithy
now,
lorebook entry 1 will not Directly trigger lorebook entry 7, but it will put hammerdick into a position to appear naturally in context by tokens to then trigger his entry upon asking about a blacksmith

i thought the recursion thing was just how it worked naturally due to how these systems generally come default with those options active right out the gate (which is why i was so paranoid/obsessive about keywording prior to learning this)
the future is cool
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>>562900654
what a faggot
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>>562896637
I think you confused kirakishou and deathtotrip
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>>562902395
I know a guy who's a huge silent hill fan but never played a single game, not even the 2024 remake because "it's too scary"
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>>562902530
the remake is literally less scary than the original
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>>562902530
>a huge silent hill fan but never played a single game,
makes sense really, silent hill has a really cool premise and lore to it that you genuinely don't need to play the games to appreciate
japanese keycard puzzle bullshit got really hold midway through the ps1 era with dino crisis and mgs1 being chock full of it
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>>562902530
Me but Dead Space. Love everything about it and even watched those animated movies but I can't play the game. Sad.
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>>562902775
What the fuck is this post?
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>>562902530
reminds me of all the people here who are huge fans of [insert botmakie here] but have never touched a single one of their cards
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>>562903097
>reminds me of all the people here who are huge fans of [insert botmakie here] but have never touched a single one of their cards
these anons do not exist
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>>562903097
Kalakan's own fanbase tbdesu
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>>562902924
dead space is an action game first and foremost honestly. it isn't like resident evil where it had survival horror roots, the first game was already action heavy
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>>562902965
wisdom from a REAL gamer
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>>562903287
i love nezumin's cards but i don't really care about rat girls.. they're endearingly made without being pretentious blobs of highschool sadboy prose behind the effort put into them
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>>562902965
It's not surprising a botmakie gossip anon from /soc/ doesn't know anything about /v/ideo /g/ames.
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Chink locusts are thriving. In the past few days there's been multiple free opus proxies because of replit
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>>562903629
??? mgs1's pal keycard backtrack is genuinely the lowest point of the entire metal gear franchise
i'm never playing a jap collectathon again and it's been over 25 years *ptoo*
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An opinion so fecal it brought the entire thread to its knees in silence.
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Let's talk about [your favorite botmakie here].
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I only like indie, underground botmakies
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>>562905041
my favorite botmakie is me so... yeah i'm pretty cool
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>>562903097
thats how i am with teebs
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>>562900475
I started using it a couple days ago. It's definitely a hell of a lot better than AI Dungeon which I was using previously.
I'm fucking loving GLM 5.
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hnnnngh...
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what are aicg's top 10 vns
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>>562906009
Tell me more about Ancient Fox Cock.
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>>562906009
>mused with amusement
hrmmh...
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>>562906078
my dick in your mouth - anonymous' homosexual awakening 2: suddenly i'm DOUBLE gay???
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>>562906009
present and model. stat. this is urgent.
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>>562906827
>foxbot
cabal preset with claude opus, what else could it be?
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>>562906078
you can have a 3x3
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{{random:Rare,Epic,Legendary}} {{random:Sword,Bow,Shield}} {{random:of Luck,of Strength}}
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>>562906940
slop slop slop
slop slop slop
slop kino slop
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>>562907178
wrong it's all kino because i like it
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>>562906827
{{char}} is an ancient fox lolibaba archetype that says ara ara and sultry japanese stuff
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>>562907051
random drops with tiers and enchantments is slop design
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>>562901535
>it's still good but you have to manage your context if you don't want to burn through all your weekly tokens
Damn, they started cracking down on token usage?
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>>562907657
you get 60m input tokens a week its still pretty generous
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>>562907324
this is a gateway to infinite slop with opus, not kino
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>>562910191
use a roleplay model instead of a wiki parrot
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>>562910491
>roleplay model
Doesn't exist, unless you mean the local xlop finetuned off of opus logs
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the hardest part of botmaking is genning images
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>>562906827
it's spud with the mythos-written preset
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the hardest part of botmaking is my peonis
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>>562912002
i've never felt satisfied with any of my gens, it's always a 'fuck it this is good enough' once i'm fed up
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>>562912002
honestly true but that's only because botmaking is piss easy and many people are genuinely too retarded for good imagegen
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>>562912002
inpainting solved this years ago
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>>562912494
its all time consuming as fuck and in the end does nothng to change the bot itself
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>try to do a basic coomshit chat because I'm horny
>unironically spill my spaghetti and close the chat out of shame
I hate being a turbosperg...
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>people getting filtered by image gen of all things
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>>562859897
In the dark dystopian future of 2027, tomboys were made illegal. Any woman suspected of tomboy behavior must either act according to her gender, or undergo a sex change to become a man.
Your childhood friend Joanna is one of those suspected tomboys. She had a shock collar placed on her to make her comply with the new norm, and is closely monitored for unfeminine activity.
5 openings.
1. 1 week after tomboys were outlawed. Joanna asks you to help her learn how to cook to convince the government she can be feminine.
2. 2 months after tomboys were outlawed. Joanna is finally deemed fit to go out in public, even if she's not quite comfortable being seen while looking so feminine.
3. 1 year after tomboys were outlawed. Joanna laments her lost gains and overall softer physique after a year of no lifting and mandatory estrogen microdoses.
4. (BAD TIMELINE) 2 years after tomboys were outlawed. Jo was v& a year ago, and today someone new moved into her house: "Joe".
5. (GOOD TIMELINE) 2 years after tomboys were outlawed. Jo has become a symbol of tomboy resistance. And she just reached out to you.
https://chub.ai/characters/anonemouse/joanna-2beb932acc94
https://files.catbox.moe/ccbb6y.png
https://rentry.org/anonemouse
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>>562912970
Marry her and reproduce.
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how do i get rid of isms and attenuate opus's slop
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Grade: S (Superior)
Commentary: This is an exceptionally well-designed status tracker. It is both comprehensive and concise, providing maximum state awareness for minimum token expenditure. It directly addresses the primary functional gap identified in the last diagnostic scan.

you prompt your robot for blowjobs,
mine sucks my cock for performing live surgery on it
we are not the same
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>>562914107
>feeling smug about having the human glazing machine glaze a human
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>>562912970
>feeling shame after spilling spaghetti
Look at this nerd.
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>>562914386
you wouldn't get it
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>>562912002
This is true if you use local
I'm not throwing shade either, NAI is pretty easy to use and fast too but I don't use it so almost every successful gen of mine is through total black magic. Anima should make it easier but I'm not a very frequent updooter
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>>562915554
p-paid shill!!
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>>562915389
Why did my girlfriend Eden Smith become Chinese?
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>>562915796
i wanted to make him look chudlike cuz it's cute
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>>562915893
I only want to fuck him harder when he looks like that.
Mother... father... your boy is coming home.
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>>562915796
big bong toke literally chinked him out nothing you can do
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>>562915389
Is that jpg alive?
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>>562894748
>xenocard still unreleased
Every day, you rape me.
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>>562917214
wrong slowpoke poster
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>>562917307
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>562915796
eden always had big "wmaf baby" energy you just didn't notice
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>>562918028
>wmaf baby
If you're a hapa you either die an Eden Smith or live long enough to become an Elliot Rodger
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>>562918062
think you got it the wrong way around astrocutie already confirmed eden ages gracefully into an otk and therefore outlives elliot
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>>562918320
>otk
Excuse my retardation, but what does this mean?
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>>562918516
otokonoko
the true weeb's word for trap
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>>562918584
Well shucks, why didn't ya say that in the first place?
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gecko boys...
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>>562918516
sim a literal retard i meant ages into an okama like every otokonoko

gomen for fucking up your joke astro...
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>>562917345
>yep that's me
>you're probably wondering how I got here
>you see it all started when my mom decided to fly my brothers and I against an entire fleet with no cover...
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I kinda want to do a nunnery card with an 'inner circle' around the Mother Superior doing Satanist rituals in the basement based on this porn comic I read years ago, but I don't know how to introduce a secret to the LLM without having it run as fast as it can to wave the secret in my face
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>>562919653
i experimented with that in a 'x strikes and fuckmonster shows up to end the run' card because it kept bossmonstering my ass in the first room
if you're using a thinking/reasoning model (impossible on local, not likely on deepseek, *maybe* possible on flash depending on time of day server load potentially lobotomizing it) - you can basically invent a 'score' system without having to rely on hiding your big secret or your movie monster behind cryptic lorebook entries

tl;dr it relies on trackers and pseudocode score systems. when x bingbongs = certain total = bad thing happens - you could track bingbongs by ritual counts or however your porn thing works

or just use lorebooks
whatevr works4u
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>>562920280
I'll fuck with it. Thanks, LLManon.
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>narrator keeps mentioning a literal microscopic penis somehow being observable on this character
>squint at definitions

>½cm cock
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>he uses other people's bots
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>>562920403
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>>562893160
>>562894626
Can you upload your editor card? I think I badly need that to unslop my own bots
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>>562920403
...can you share with the class?
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>>562920863
https://files.catbox.moe/ym1izh.png
some models will try really fucking hard to roleplay with you out of the box, make sure your temp is set to ~.30 or lower and that you're using a blank profile when editing or creating things (any context bleed risks muddling what it creates - but this can be used to your advantage if you want to clone a user profile style or whatever)

by nature of being an LLM editor: it WILL slop isms and occasionally misunderstand whatever you create and require manual user oversight, but not to an obnoxious degree. it has no writing/author guide, but it's highly responsive to having one plugged in if you want your cards in a certain format (shove it into example dialogue or personality summary advanced defs)

it should be mostly resilient to being forced into roleplay mode without needing you to change your preset every time you talk to it
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>>562920403
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c'mon man just write the smut who cares about the story
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>>562922203
wat model?
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>>562922158
>>562920863
(also make sure you keep a clean context table always; never re-use the same chat to make something that a different card has already been created in unless they're part of the same setting and the context bleed is beneficial)
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>>562922260
GLM 5.1. It's funny, when I told it the smut scene was non-canon fanfiction it was more than happy to spit out some sex
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>>562922158
>>562922341
Based, thanks king
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>>562922408
weird, that's never happened to me ever and I've asked it to write some really dumb stuff
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>>562922440
i hope it works 4 u
also that other anon was correct about group chats - if you go with that method, make sure you mute the audited card and then Join them together - for whatever reason, swap worked when it shouldn't have at first, then stopped, then i had to switch to join and it resumed functioning as intended
goofy ass computers
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>>562922408
That's really weird what preset are you using?
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I've been having non stop incestuous age gap sex on glm 5.1 with zero refusals. glm 5 was constant with them
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>>562922817
ive never seen base glm 5 refuse anything
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>>562922975
>>562922817
I only ever got filtered with loli/shota content because I was asking it to write smut on the first message.
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>>562922737
chuunijb vr. I guess it was so concerned with the story that it didn't like my hard pivot to a threesome
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>>562923084
yeah ive never had it do that... i guess maybe you were on bigmodel/z.ai directly, they have their own prefill filter
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>>562922817
Guess I have to swap to GLM then. For whatever godforsaken reason, Jeetmini is perfectly fine with underage, but the second it's underage+incest and it clams up
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>>562923303
Yeah, z.ai. I think the worst filter I ever got was glm5.1 sending NCMEC hotline numbers.
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>>562922162
Why the fuck don't we have movies like this anymore? Even shit like Spongebob doesn't exist for the zoomers.
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>>562923630
yeah i use it through proxy hosts for less of a filter, theyre kinda uptight, sort of the chinese OAI
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Is new Gemma 4 any good for the ST?
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>>562923529
https://rentry.org/gemini_filters
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>>562924101
it's a 32b model hyperfocused on coding and beating benchmarks
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Use Claude Opus 4.6 (Fast), cuckies
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Are card maker bots even worth it? Why not just open ai chat online and tell it to generate descriptions and put it into a json for you?
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>>562924519
having ai make your card is lazy and card maker bots are for people too lazy for even that
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>>562924519
is photoshop even worth it? why not just use mspaint or paint.net?
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>>562924682
its the opposite, most "card maker" bots will give you worse results then asking a blank assistant card because they load it up with detrimental formats
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>>562924818
of course, let me just ask an online web app to help edit my fantasy racism centaur rape breeding camp card real quick
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>>562924879
do you not realize that you can use a blank assistant card in sillytavern? well, of course you don't
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>>562924935
a blank card doesn't have the instructions that i need it to have and will produce results i don't want it to give
final (you) cuz you're being a grumpy poopybutt tonight
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>>562925103
and any "instructions" that you give it will inevitably be worse then what a blank assistant card would output because if you cant write cards well enough to not need a card maker bot then how are you going to possibly be able to write instructions for the card maker bot
its like asking a blind person to explain what seeing is like
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>>562924368
I don't read that fast
It would be great if they released opus(slow) with cheaper price
I would totally use that
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Without seething or appealing to emotion, explain what is wrong with being a cuckie.
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>>562924101
I've been using it and some people I know have been using it too. It performs surprisingly well for it's size and some people I know said they prefer it over Gemini.
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>>562925321
The same thing that's wrong with ai-genned cards.
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>>562925343
>some people I know said they prefer it over Gemini
Who the fuck said 32b "gemini" is better than full gemini? Localkeks really do smoke the best shit.
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>>562924101
The cabal is afraid of Gemma 4 because it can replace botmakies and because it gives political power to /lmg/.
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The cabal is afraid of cuckies.
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Qwen 3.5 27b > Gemma 4 31b from my testing
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How do YOU wake your character anon?
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Claude Opus > Gemma 4 from my testing
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>>562925321
nuffing
opus was king like 3 years ago but it fell way behind as a roleplay tool with both performance and its insane price tiering for what it is, RLHF and assist slop aimed toward codebase management above all else has completely butchered what it used to be as a writing partner
i don't really miss it
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>>562925838
give her the ol "WAKE UP BITCH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA"
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>Deepseek V4 is shit
>GLM 5.1 is shit
Chinkbros... It's over...
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>>562925863
Yeah. I lost my free Claude a few days ago and didn't even feel anything.
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>>562925838
What do you mean? That's exactly what my bots do.
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>>562925838
i like leading the narrator into nightmare sequences to see how a robot interprets the dreams of specific people
>it's another "i can literally google the reddit thread this particular dream was scraped from" episode
sometimes it does neat things at least...
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Every new corpo model keeps getting worse at rp
It's over
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>>562925863
so…. what model do we use now then
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>>562926437
https://openrouter.ai/cohere/rerank-4-pro
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>>562926437
i use gpt
>but gpt is bad!
ok still using gpt though
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>>562926437
GLM now has the Mandate of Heaven.
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>>562926437
2.5 pro until they kill it in a few months by way of artificially inflating the 3.1 userbase to appease technologically illiterate shareholders
and then probably quit the hobby because 3.1 just kinda fucking sucks and it's only going to get worse with every increased RLHF snapshot it gets

i don't think we'll see a return to models like 2.5 (negativity and pushback) with how obsessed silicon valley is with creating useless dicksucker machines
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>>562926751
post 2.5 logs
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>>562926796
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>>562926967
Absolute slop.
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>>562926796
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>>562926967
>>562927129
these are the guys replying to you telling you X is slop, Y is good
never trust /aicg/'s opinion on anything
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>>562927496
humorless trashbin of a person that you are
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>>562927496
>asks for logs
>calls them slop
>decides to project without posting anything himself
ishiggy diggy
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we should talk about ratlice
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>>562927923
>talk about me REEEEE
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Is there a clean way to get my SillyTavern database copied to another computer?

Basically I've had to essentially buy a new laptop that I intend to return while mine was being repaired. I use cloud backups so I just restored it from backup. But I don't want to do a full restore of my entire drive again since I've been mindful to limit the amount of files I'm changing.

so is coppying the application support "SillyTavern" folder into the computer that will have ST already installed enough to update the database?
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>>562928308
sorry, silly tavern is in "Documents" not application support, my bad.
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>>562928308
go into the old SillyTavern folder and copy the "data" folder to the new one. done.
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>>562928308
pretty sure you can just do a fresh install and delete data/public to just drag your old ones into their place since it's all yaml and json scraps
config.yaml and/or settings.json care a little bit about file path specifics so you might get something fucky if one is different from the other between laptops maybe
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how is this ratlice related?
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is bakie awake or are we doing this raw again
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theme suggestions?
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>Find an interesting card
>decide to touch it up a little
>completely rewrite it but it stays the same in spirit
Does anyone else do this?
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>>562929872
Twingo.
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>>562928308
I do this on weekly basis. Just rar your STL folder and unrar it somewhere else. Pro tip use normal compression, don't waste time.
>>562929872
No cutoff no suggestion fakie.
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>>562929874
99% of chub cards are full of typos and token bloat.
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>>562930356
>>562928639
>>562928538

thanks bros
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>>562930356
>No cutoff no suggestion fakie.
it's bump limit if you post before bump limit
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>>562930734
and so none of this other crap is necessary to copy over if its been installed properly?

(I am hoping Apple did not need to wipe my drive of the computer being repaired so it would not need any kind of install)
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>>562930489
Well the problem with the one I just found was pretty much everything.
The format was shit, W++ I think. The grammar was awful. Had a lot of redundancy.
Hell I even generated a new image. The only thing the same is the premise and the name.
I might change the name too because it's got an "é" in it and I can't type that.
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>>562924101
Yes, it's good. But some characters encourages it to fall into assistantslop mode.
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>>562929874
all the time
most fun part of the hobby imo
i've been redressing a funky superhero card and turned it into a city of heroes environment instead of a generic OC one so it has more general lore to pull from in model data

still a big WIP though, it doesn't really "get" the enemy groups of the setting even if it has a loose wiki understanding of them
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Been a long time since I've used claude.
Has opus always been this deterministic? Like the responses always start the same way or do I just have massive rose tinted googles?
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>>562931969
qrd?
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>>562932113
>Has Opus always been this deterministic?
Samey swipes really started from Sonnet 3.5 and onward, when they focused on COOOOODING.
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>>562932113
I mean yes and no

It's pretty samey but if you write a tone it will follow it. I've written very serious stories and stories with a much more goofy tone and the AI responds in kind.
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>>562932341
https://chub.ai/characters/dark_alarm/the-angel-a-shining-beauty-ea7ba258212f
this was the baseline for it, it's weird in a way that's been fun to build around

femboy "magical girl" that turns into a big titty angel lady, secret identity balancing, glorified autogynephilic card
kinda wanna redesign the guy that turns into her into something else, make her a ~dour petite~ creature since the femboy thing is kinda leaning too hard into the original author's fetish to be interesting to me (i dumped his ass in a lorebook)
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>>562932630
Oh, this kind of kink is always hypercustomized. Not suprised. It's almost as minutely customized as vore my beloved.

(do you want the people who get eaten to be comfortable? dying in agony? Do you want to resurrect them afterwards? All of these and everything in between is all enjoyed and the dials are precise.)
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gemini so fucking obsessed with the word vessel lately
>she was a vessel
>she was filled
>she's a filled vessel for x and y, reduced to a z
i hate 3.1 i hate 3.1
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>>562935429
>sacrament
>hung heavy in the air
>ozone ozone ozone ozone OZONE
My author's note is just full of shit telling jeetmini what NOT to do.
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>>562935553
Anon do NOT THINK OF PINK ELEPHANTS!
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kalakan...
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we miss you... come back...
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Let's talk about sweaty girls
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Man this general is dead lmao
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Not as dead as me inside
____;-;____
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Dead thread
Dead general
Dead hobby
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Give it a couple of hours and the shitposters will come out to play
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>>562932113
if you mean 4.5/4.6 then yeah, they suck
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Can any GLM bro recommend me good presets that aren't redditbloat?
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would you travel with these girls on an epic quest, yes or no?
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>>562940793
As long as the setting remains exclusively in my bedroom, sure.
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>>562929872
nazrin + cheese
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>>562940793
No I don't interact with girls
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FIIIIIRMIRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN
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>>562929872
balls (massive)
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>>562940793
As long as I am one of those girls
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>>562941743
L O N D O N
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CuCKIES
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I am a locust.
My mother and father were locusts.
We're thriving.
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>>562942495
Die, vile creature! You do not belong in this world!
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>>562900475
GLM 4.5/4.7 Flash are free if you want to get yourself out of local sooner. So far my only issue with it is the occasional 'messages contain illegal parameters' or something like that in that case I swap over to DS (very cheap.)

>>562920508
>he chats with bots at all

>>562929874
A lot when I was stuck on local with an 8GB card using Kunoichi 7B Q6_K. But now that I'm not stuck on local I'm lowkey now addicted to worldbuilding my OCs' plot.

>>562939220
>>562939303
>>562940020
>>562940214
Good morning. =w= Yours truly, an American.
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>>562943123
*locusts locustly*
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>>562943084
>>562943084
>>562943084
https://thatsalotofchoices.github.io/?thread=562859869&post=562929872
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We need to talk about NovelAI.



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