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>>562884691>we create a gag unserious lighthearted cartoon dynamic for the kids to laugh at>amyhaters: "that's sooo laaaame lolololol *makes amy is a rapist memes*>sonamybesties: "I DIE ON THIS HILL AND I AM NOT DYING ALONE"
>>562884806Ian Flynn needs to be fired
We used to have a poster here like three or four years ago who pointed out all the same things Amy fans are now, and it pissed off Amy fans at the time so much they called him Amyhater.
Surgamyfag hates Amy.
>>562884918Japanese gags in Sonic were NEVER well translated to western audiences
>>562884949He's not a contractual employee.
>>562884918I think the amy haters were the ones screaming for it to be removed cause of how awful the cartoon pink hedgehog was being in a comedy slapstick scene.
Ian is based purely on pissing off retarded shiptards, Sonamyfags especially.
>>562884806Fuuuuckk.... Do I answer?
>we want the capeshit audience for SonicWell if you insist
>>562884830I wasn't that first anon you were talking to and I agree. I see Amy as a Modern character in the same way the Chaotix are. Classic Amy barely existed, but I appreciate NuClassic rectifying that, even if its a new type of Amy.
I didn't know Ian was based.
>>562885037her* I heard from some anon here she was pregnant
>>562885250That would explain why she stopped posting here after several months.
>>562885250impossiblei won't believe it
>>562885037No? Amyhater was just a Metalfag that hated Modern Amy because of how she was changed into a girlboss and was ruining the series since everything was being forced to include her. Ironically enough, Amyhater didn't any problems about old Amy, and was parroting a lot of these same points that the other people who have a problem with how Amy is being handled have.
https://files.catbox.moe/px5diq.mp4
Shadamy!
>>562885093They need to stop hiring him.
>>562885093He can still be let go for numerous counts of misconduct
>>562885478Wasn't there a Ftm Metalfag?
>>562885146guess i gotta jerk off now
You know the person who's same fagging through the thread trying to counter everyone pretty much agreeing Ian's a faggot and nu-Amy sucking is the same IDWfag who will do the exact same thing when IDW is ridiculed.
>>562885061They'll never make me hate ABT for what he gifted us
>>562885578Sonamybestie...
>>562885037I remember Amyhater making a lot of quality posts but I can't remember a single one now.
Tomorrow the new season of Sonic Rumble begins, but we may not be alive to witness it since Trump is going to nuke half of the planet
>>562885061Lanolin is basically Amber Bennet from Invincible TAS. A character they tried to add depth to but the attempt backfired so badly it caused the fanbase to hates the character.
Heh each day I grow some more
>>562885061Duo is one lucky catWhat happened to him?
>>562885510Sega doesn't know enough about Sonic to pick anyone else, and Ian is spineless enough to keep under their thumb.They don't really care enough if Ian's twisting it for himself. If they can still sell merchandise it really doesn't matter.
The final nail in the coffin for Sonamy is going to be Movie 4 making Amy and Sonic relatives.
>>562885671Why would a sonamy fag like Ian, nu-Amy, and IDW? Are you retarded?
>>562885721My low stakes conspiracy theory is that Ian/Evan hated how much attention this random background character was getting over their own so they ruined her on purpoe.
Ian literally writes like a shipping teenager who hates the enemy girl and wants her to go away
>>562885790Someone pocket dialed him.Amazing story telling, I know.
Didn't you guys want Amy to be more important?Well there you go. What's the problem?
>>562885041Duofag hates Sonic
>>562885883I would agree with that, but all their characters are unlikable and terrible so it doesn't really check out.
>>562885839>Amy teleports in from a warp ring>Saves Sonic from Metal clones>"Who are you?">"Hey lil bro!"
>IAN RUINED AMYShe was fine in Archie Reboot which is Ian in his purist form. Perhaps it's SEGA that's to blame.
>>562885972>NOOOO NOT LIKE THAT. I WANT HER TO BE STRAPPED TO SONIC SO THAT EVERY STORY IS LIKE THOSE SHIPPING FANFICS THAT I READ I DON'T WANT HER AWAY FROM SONIC DOING SOMETHING ELSE STOOOOOOP THIS IS SALLY'S FAULT. THAT BITCH SHE IS MANIPULATING EVERYTHING FROM HER BITCH VAULT
>>562885839Classic ragebait after that babby Mario shit pulled this thinking these actual good movies are pulling any of that.
>>562885972Who said that Mr. Reddit Spacer?
Twittards should be upset at Iizuka but they keep blaming the wrong people. What gives
Cream the Rabbit.
>>562886106>the rom com aspect of the story is between Amy and ShadowHow many people would legit kill themselves over this
>>562885721Lanolin was a good idea for a character but the writers forgot the "questioning Sonic's morality and decisions" isn't a plot point allowed to be proceeded in the story.It's more crazy they keep trying to do it.
Breezie
>>562886253Iizuka will never see any of itWestern criticsm is never relayed to Japanese devs
>>562886119It's almost like there was a girlboss character in Archie who made turning Amy into a girlboss redundant
I haven't played Rumble, but why isn't Starline a playable character? The game features toy versions of the cast, so him being dead shouldn't prevent him from being a playable character.Popularity also shouldn't matter because they got three variants of John Altered Beast and Metal Sonic 3.0(?!?!), so what gives?
>>562886119I blame incompetence overall and this company is shit, yeah. Miracle Sonic has lasted this long and it's mainly thanks to autism in the US.
>>562885839>>562886106>>562886289>Movie 4 will be Shadamy coded
>>562886220>Actual good moviesPeople like them cause they're video game movies, please don't say Mario and Sonic movies are "actual good movies".That makes me depressed, the bar has been buried beneath the fucking earth.
>>562886334American writers and jap devs don't care eithers.
>>562886381No, I wouldn't dare call Mario a movie.
>>562886323In some cases, yes. Not that emotionally stunted people who still obsess over a series for elementary schoolers would understand that.
>>562886352You mean Blaze?
>>562886452Sure but at least I know Americans writers will see the criticism and have a twitter crash out over it
I don't care for shitmy
Douge
>>562886119Ian is a horrible writer.
>>562886381Do you really think Sonic fans have the capacity to enjoy anything outside of their hyperfixation?
What is /sthg/'s opinion on Sonic x Rouge fan interactions treating Sonic like Rouge's favorite best gay friend who posts the nail polish emote
Honey the Cat!Sally the Acorn!
>>562886529>shitmyWhy punish the character and not her poor management?
Hesse is much more respected than Ian, if he has a problem with it then he can probably get it reversed over time.
>>562886303Lanolin never questions Sonic's morality and decisions, that's like not a thing she ever does in a serious capacity in either of her storylines. The closest was with the Phantom Rider, and even then, she didn't know that was Sonic.That's like a thing ABT does, but that's not a feature of her character in the comic. The only character she doubts is Silver. lol
>>562886380>>562886289>Fowler loves Shadow>Everything he did in the movies was just waiting to introduce Shadow>Sonic is made overly kiddy and annoying, likely pushing Amy away with constant movie references>He's going to pair Amy with Shadow insteadMY FUCKING GOAT
>>562886723Hesse isn't a virgin loser, he most likely doesn't care that much
>>562886676I don't think that's relevant to what I posted, but I'm a Sonicfag, and I enjoy tons of other things, so sure?
>>562886698
>>562886685Sonic and Rouge calling each other skank and skanker as they pass each by in the hallway
>>562886795That's what I said, it was the IDEA. The actual character that became Lanolin is something else altogether.
>>562886082Not all their characters.
>>562886685Kinda based actually
One of these days
>>562886685People just want blue Amy.
>>562886994These niggas suck.
>>562886795That was Lanolin's character when she was a /sthg/ oc, but she was changed to be Sallolin when Sega said to make her a main character or stop dropping her in the background.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpZOZMgGAvY
>>562887041He said She said
>>562886706Shitmy's always been shit
>>562886685Sonic's not gay and they fuck
>>562886870>tons of other thingsLike what Bluey? MLP? Helluva Boss?
>>562887045Amy was romantic, but never flirty which is kinda interesting to think aboutAmy was never really allowed to be used with sensual context
Which Sonic girls you think are canon futas?
Always puts me off whenever Sonic is depicted like Amy yet the real one is having an identity crisis.
>>562886685Sonic is too clever for Rouge to trick, and he's too suave to fall for her charms, so they usually just drop the back and forth entirely which makes them seem really relaxed around eachother. >favorite best gay friend who posts the nail polish emoteThat's because these people need everything to be gay and retarded, regardless of whether or not it's accurate.
>>562887270that disrespect
ALL SHIPS INVOLVING THE BLUE HEDGEHOG KNOWN AS SONIC ARE EXTREMELY OUT OF CHARACTERSONAMYSONALLYSONURGESONADOWALL FOUR OF THESE ARE EQUALLY OOCIF YOU LIKE ONE OF THESE YOU AREN'T ALLOWED TO FIGHT WITH THE OTHERS BECAUSE YOU'RE ALL WRONG
>>562886994Honestly, of all the rival Bulk and Scully trope characters in different media, these two are the worst of the archetype.I heard someone say they're a Doronbo Gang, but they're definitely not.
>>562887270No Sonic girl has futa energy
>>562887258Sonic has shown more sexual tension with Knuckles than he does Amy and we don't make a big enough deal out of this
>>562887154Okay, boko
>>562887417BUT NAKA-SAMA, WHAT ABOUT SONELISE?
>>562887417Based Naka.
>>562887348I never noticed that and that was DEFINITELY on purpose lol
>>562887445Because no one takes faggots seriously. Leave that shit out and let men be rivals.
>>562887572For some reason Nibroc doesn't want to show Manic's or Sonia's faces
>>562887296Sonic turns into AmySonic turns into Shadow
>>562887635They were never rivals, can we drop this meme
>>562887702>they just wanted gay sonamy all along >they just wanted a male amy obsessed with sonic
>>562887239Bill and Ted, Halo, Gundam, Dragon Ball, Mega Man, ATHF, Slayers, I Think You Should Leave, Sopranos, Konosuba, Bomberman,Yu yu Hakusho, Yugioh,The first ones that come to my head.
>>562885132Like always, the classic brand has to swoop in to salvage a concept that modernshit completely botched. Just give the bitch a spinball and let the hammer be a bonus. Now she's a more convincing hero than in any game where she has that fuckass bobcut, and can't roll for no good goddamn reason
>>562887702Shadow's introduction literally made Sonic an entirely different character starting with Heroes and I'm sick of pretending this isn't the case
>>562887750>They were never rivalsExplain yourself.
>>562885898He completely does, which is ironic since he he'd talk about how he's above shipping. Faggot has been spending all this time trying to change Amy.
>>562886698Plapping them both while the nukes go off
>>562887649What's sin?What's evil?What's good?Sonic wouldn't base his decisions based on social constructs, only what he believes in personally, he really doesn't bother with opinions on things if they aren't hurting others.
>>562887894Look up the definition of rival.
>>562887848The bobcut is cute and fits her flapper girl aesthetic.
How about this ship?
>>562887979Moral relativism is a cowards stance anon
https://files.catbox.moe/5jjba4.mp4
>>562887649Of course it's fanart.
>>562888179what does that even mean
>>562886685I thought Shadouge was my first ship but then I remember my brothers calling me gay for always renting Sonic & Knuckles.
F-Fox meat isn't that good! I can buy you guys some burgers! Hot dogs? Chicken?
>>562886119>She was fine in Archie RebootI wonder why...
>>562887826Don't list a bunch of old shit to try to look cool poser ass nigga
>>562888037Good answer.
>>562888238This is just so fucking fruity even with the presence of a hetero pair. Rouge may as well have a cock.
Thoughts on Chaos Energy?
Was Sallicole a genuine ship, they really wanted to do this or it was a smokescreen or I dont know
>>562888289I can't believe Sega allowed them to write Amy as a cuck
>>562885972She still has to be stuck in Shitnic's groupie circle just to make an appearance
>>562888274Here I thought I was the only Vectorfag with questionable tastes
>>562888397It was Ian throwing a tantrum because Sonic Team said Sonally is ooc so he replaced Sally with a lesbian
>>562888387It exists, it solves things, it does whatever
>>562887848>Give Amy spindashFuck off, "make every character the same"You're a boring faggot, I like that Amy is a technical character that needs a hammer and doesn't just constantly have a hit box turned on.
>>562888161yjk
>>562888373Twittertards are obsessed with making women more masculine and men more feminine. That's why they love Silvaze.
>>562886508This isn't a gotcha since Ian is doing just that byb dedicatimg his time to erasing Amy's feelings.
>>562888289That's preboot. >>562888430That was before the crying shit set them off.
>>562888486Practically every character now can do the spindash
>>562888387It's basically just ki.
>>562888521Sonic was never going to return her feelings anyway so might as well drop that and have her do cool shit
>>562887154Everyone who likes sonic is shit
>>562886723The Lore Team head glazes Ian over him.
>>562888387It's not Ki and I'm ok with that
>>562888618Which is honestly a mistake.Sonic is already the most basic to play as, he needs SOMETHING unique and now every other mother fucker can do what he does PLUS their own unique abilities.
>>562888486>>562888618I guess it's just for practicality and laziness to give unique movesets again.
>>562888718Sonic's unique thing was the shield abilities
>>562888814Sonic's wife vs Knuckles's wife
>>562886927>>562887057I don't think there was anything from Sega preventing Lanolin from being a foil to Sonic (because characters like Surge and Starline exist), and I have a hard time believing that Lanolin was originally supposed to be a foil to Sonic before some arbitrary change by the comic staff.
>>562888654Yeah, whatever you say, Sallybro. Even though her love for Sonic literally didn't hinder the cool things she did in the past when she was playable.
>>562888327But that's what I like.Uhh, if I were to choose more recent things,Freedom Planet, only in classic modeInti Creates gamesShovel Knight,Epic Battle Fantasy (that's not new)Palworld,Chair Company,I'm starting to struggle here,New King of the Hill season was good,I can't think of more off the top of my head, and most of these are video games now,
>>562888895Amy has never been cool.
Would Sonic rape Surge?
>>562889017We know, Sallybro.
>>562889105No, it's all consensual
>>562889105YES NEXT QUESTION
>>562889105Sonic is asexual.
>>562888486It's fucking retarded for one of the actual hedgehogs in the series, one who's even distinctly obsessed with sonic, to not have sonic's basic moves, especially once the rabbit cunt shows up and is somehow less experienced but more powerful. Fuck sonic adventure and fuck advance
I genuinely don't understand how you grow up simping for Amy Rose of all people
>>562887239What do you like?
>all this fighting over a guy who is canonically incapable of love
>>562889325Furry porn
>>562889205Cream looks up to Sonic and wants to be a hero.Amy is her own person, she wants to be with Sonic, not be him. Plus she has a hammer.Plus she wasn't suppose to be a fighter, she was just a cute girl following Sonic, until powerlevelfags said she needed to be powered up to be a good character.She only became strong because she was trying to lose weight and did muscle training instead cause she's an idiot.Which is why she's a fun character.
Lol, why are these people who clearly don't like Amy acting like they have a say in what she should be and how you should enjoy her? That's nuts.
>>562889297wife is cute
>>562887429>Bulk and Scully tropeLess Bulk and Skull, more Rocksteady and Bebop, there's a distinction. They'd need a third member to be like the Doronbo Gang.>>562887054>These niggas suck. Genuinely compared to what? How would you make them better?
>>562889105The Wind doesn’t consent
>>562889352How are you misunderstanding the problem this deeply, unless you're playing stupid to try dissuade people from what every is actually angry about.I couldn't care if Amy bags Sonic, that doesn't matter, ever, but what makes Amy, Amy, is that she WANTS to bag Sonic.That's it, that's all we need.
>>562889509What's nuts is pretending Amy is this massively important character when she's always been a secondary
>>562889105Scourge would.
>>562889806And that all went to a waste with BoC as deemed officially fanfiction.
>>562889694So she's just a shitty shipper character?
https://youtube.com/shorts/1Owua6X5gMg?si=BTvAAYNnH5cfMMJaSonic pair for this feel?
>>562885704nothing will happen
>>562889806Toyoda wrote Sonic Forces
>>562889889What?Anon, I think you're brain is rotted from fandom lingo, I really don't understand what you're missing here.She, is a cartoon character, her gimmick, for the series she's in, is that she is trying to date Sonic.Shenanigans ensue.The end.
>>562889889No she's a love interest. You're really that terminally online that basic tried and true tropes are shipping to you?
>>562889442>until powerlevelfags said she needed to be powered up to be a good character.If we're being serious, Amy wanting to get stronger and faster just makes sense with her as a character. She hated the fact that she couldn't keep up with everyone else, and that she kept putting everyone in danger by getting in over her head, so she started training like crazy.The funny part is when she's still just a cutesy, lovestruck, and emotional girl that can shit up while throwing a tantrum. Making her a super serious stick in the mud just ruins everything that makes her enjoyable.
Did anyone else notice that Surge has more depth than Amy?
>>562890087So she'll a shitty shipper character.>>562890092Sonic isn't interested in love.
>>562886323
>>562890087And that got tiring and repetitive. Amy doesn't have to do that all the time.
>>562889806Was Sonic ever seen a as a Japanese thing? Has Sonic being rooted in Japanese culture ever truly been a selling point?
Would Shadow rape me?
>>562890103Autists are obsessed with everything being grounded and logical. Nothing fan, just boring shit that feels like school. This is why analytical types shouldn't be anyway near the creative field. They're too weird and robotic to get it.
>>562890152You need a character to have depth. Amy has no character. She never has. Only delusional people like>>562890103 push this narrative that she ever had an ounce of depth
>>562890268You ain't worth it.
>>562890103I did see that in SA2, so I concede that.But that wasn't set by Advance, so that's why she doesn't move like Sonic, cause she didn't need to, which caused a unique gameplay style and moveset.Her becoming Sonic now would be really lame, that would be like there's only one way to fight in Sonic world and it's to be ball. How stupidly limited.
>>562890361:(
Man I fucking love how our booru is completely fucking useless for it's intended purpose (archiving pictures and mems on here) and I have to sift through dozens of pages on arch to find an image from 5-6 years ago before I give up.
>>562890025No, he wrote the re-localization of Forces.
>>562890251Japan doesn't buy Sonic games and never have, so no.
>>562888718Typical modernshit logic. Sonic can't stand out through the strength of his character alone, everyone else has to play like complete ass for him to look cool
>>562890249Okay.Again the problem is, they're changing it to her NEVER doing it.
>>562890483No, he wrote Forcrs. Stop shifting blame.
>>562890483>No, he wrote the re-localization of Forces.Was there a previous one?
>>562890185Dude, the hero gets the girl. How can the cool guy be cool if he isn't popular with the opposite sex? The only people you're appealing with something like that are losers who cant get any.
Dadnic
>>562890467What the fuck are you talking about?Type in the character, get the character.
>>562890670I think the hero should definitely have girls interested in him. I don't know if we need Amy to stick around for that though.
>>562890573Considering it was never funny, I don't see the problem.
So are you guys finally going to stop calling me a schizo everytime I bring up the fact that Ian and Evan have been fucking with this franchise for the past 7 years or are we still in the denial phase?
>>562890623>>562890627He only wrote the Japanese localization of Forces.
Surge on all fours while Sonic cums inside her
>>562890772It was actually very funny, and charming.So there is a problem.
>>562890573Good. Amy is best doing stuff on her own and getting over Sonic.Sonamyfaggots are the worst.
>>562890670>How can the cool guy be cool if he isn't popular with the opposite sex?But he is?
>>562890891Is that Minos Pri-
>>562890950JUDGEMENT
>>562890880reddit spacing.
>>562890337I'm also an autist that's obsessed with everything being grounded and logical, but everything about Amy still makes sense to me while also being silly and fun.>>562890437>Her becoming Sonic now would be really lameI honestly agree. Just because she's gotten stronger doesn't mean she suddenly can't play differently.
>>562891005electiontourist larping as oldfag trophy award
>>562890793Oh. Anon said RElocalization which implied there was an earlier one.
>>562890878Everyone who isn't neurodivergent disagrees
>>562889539Nah Rocksteady and Bebop at their worst still make for passable bossfights, and you want a Doronbo Gang you'd be better off waiting for a proper super Mario crossover
>>562890774I'm just genuinely surprised at how much both of them seem to just absolutely hate every single bit of this franchise. Like honestly at this point why don't they just quit an find a different career at this point? Why do they have to spitefully destroy the IP more than it already has been internally? For what purpose or goal? To just make everyone miserable?
>>562891179Everyone with an iq over 80 agrees.
>>562891225Having a high IQ doesn't preclude having a mental illness
>>562891081says the anon reddit spacing.
I genuinely don't understand people who defend IDW. I understand at the very least if you're defending it because the people who hate it for political reasons. What about IDW is so appealing to you? Please help me understand.
>outdated shit nobody liked except a handful of autists>"it's over... the franchise is being destroyed by ian...
Who invited Sonic Twitter to the thread all of a sudden?
Do you guys enjoy Sonic or did you just enjoy SonamyBe real
>>562891446Why are you so outnumbered then?Not that popularity decides what's right and wrong, but you're screaming about being outdated, yet it's very clear everyone still likes it.
>>562891186>Why do they have to spitefully destroy the IP more than it already has been internally? For what purpose or goal?Ian really does think he can write this franchise better than anyone else because he's been huffing his own farts for over a decade.Evan was never a fan of this franchise to begin with, her only interaction with it was in DA fangroups and tumblr where she was in an echo chamber so when she became officially involved and realized this was supposed to be a franchise aimed at boys, she decided she wants to change that because she wants to write for pre-teen girls and get LGBTQ+ brownie points.At least with Ian you can say he used to actually like this franchise. I personally don't believe Evan ever actually liked Sonic for what it is which is why she doesn't understand why most of the fanbase keeps lambasting her. She genuinely believes that this is how the IP should be like because she's literally a fake fan.
SonicAmyTailsSilverBlazeCreamShadowThe characters with the worst fans ever.
>>562891175>>562890793>>562890627>>562890483
>>562891627>why are you so outnumbered>yet it's very clear everyone still likes it.get outside your hugbox more often, besite-san
>>562891420It exists, and Sonic is in it.Therefore, they have become attached to it.
>>562889017Not if shitga is involved
>>562891597Sonic and Amy have a cute dynamic. Sonamy misses the point and I don't like it.I hate how you can't like how characters interact without someone accusing you of being a shipfaggot.
>>562890774>>562891186>>562891664>Ian and Evan*Morio and Iizuka
>>562891627The general population does not care bro
Sonic and the Black Knight was the last Sonic game
>>562891746There was a really good Amy 3 mod I played forever ago that just game Amy her Advance moveset.It was cool, cause it was like playing a completely new character, and not a pink ball instead of a blue one.
>>562891698Anon, it's semantic bullshit: he wrote a rewrite which serves as the Japanese localization but there is no Japanese RE-localization because there's only one Japanese localization.
>>562891832*SA2
>>562891773>>562891832The series has had like four different endings at this pointSonic 3K for Genesis fagsAdventure 2 for AdventurefagSonic and the Black Knight for Dark AgefagsForces for Meta Era fags
>>562889297Spite. This shitstain fanbase loves the characters who hate sonic and hates the characters who love sonic, because it's a cowardly self-hating nigger spic cesspool
>Remove Rouge's tits>Remove Amy's romance>Make all the female OCs lesbian>"We don't have enough kickbutt females."Frankly at this point they should just remove all the females altogether because what's the fucking point of even having a female character if you're just going to write them as a male character with tits? Oh wait, they can't even have tits anymore. So yea, just make them male at this point.
>>562891719Where would you recommend? Twitter?
>>562891927I'm just a messenger
>>562891683Cream's fans are based.
>>562892040Male characters who cry and talk about their feelings in group therapy?
>>562892040If they were male wouldn't they stop crying?
>>562892040>just make them male at this pointFor all intents and purposes, Amy is treated as one now.
>>562891826And? There's tons of things out there that I don't care about, so why should my opinion about those things matter at all? Why should they change to cater to me at the expense of the fans they already have? That'd be retarded.
>>562892040Amy is already a Trans icon
>>562892040Nice try, fag
>>562892021For me the closest thing to an ending S3&K. The Adventure games took the series in a different direction so it wasn't the same thing
>>562889442>Cream looks up to Sonic and wants to be a hero.REDUNDANT MODERNSHIT CHARACTER FOR PEDOPHILES
>>562892160>>562892163It should be company policy to never allow a women to write for this franchise. Ever. There shouldn't be crying and therapy circles to begin with.
>>562892242That's what I'm saying, every era has its ending before the series changes to chase another trend.
>>562892248Well, she's better at the role than Tails, Tails is just a fat fuck who turns wrenches all day now.He's Otacon.
>>562892045check reddit. it's normal enough and populated enough. and they were like "not this shit again" which is on the "who cares just shut up" side. amyfag discourse is always a bunch of noisy autists (shipper minority) the rest of us are here for the games and whatever entertaining media.
>>562892383Not Classic Tails though
>>562892385>person who likes nuAmy is a redditoryep.
This entire franchise is just one giant cosmic monkey paw.
Why isn't SoJ also seen as incompetent? I guess it helps they don't make changes. But they're the ones that are supposed to have a say with the lore team, yes?
>>562892385>check redditI thought you had a problem with hugboxes?
>>562892365Yeah but Classic is the original so to me the "core" Sonic story ends in 1994. I only count the Genesis games in this since CD wasn't really connected to them at the time
>>562892526Says the Twitterfag
>>562892514Classic Tails is fucking nothing.He has like, nothing.He's a orange shadow that is your personal helicopter for when you need one.
>>562892506
This is a good change. Women shouldn't be chasing love and family. They need to focus on their career and being a boss babe to own the chuds. Why go for a husband when you can get a boss and get paid?
>>562892385Yet, they'll start gushing over Sonadow.
>>562892671And that's based
>>562892248Smurfette and baby smurf fill two completely different roles
>>562892624jap purists and sonamyfags keep treating /sthg/ like their hugboxes tho
>>562892624I said it's normal enough. Guess everything is a hugbox then? here is a Sonic and Shadow supremacy hugbox from japan
These characters complement each other very well thematically and design wise and have the strongest dynamic in the series
>>562892506>>562892715>edit
>>562892846>Amy is so shit she is almost tied with EggmanYikes
>>562892728correction: Women shouldn't be chasing fugly pieces of shit.
>>562892804Uh, yeah actually.
>>562892957>calling both eggman and amy shitFuck off.
>>562892907Do you think they sleep in the same bed like Batman and Robin used to
>>562893105Tailspedo...
Ian’s writing is just lame and gay
>>562893192Yeah
>>562893060Imagine thinking a generic mad scientist is cool
>gay posters just don't careI don't think I've ever seen gay posters care about characterizations.
>>562893105Sometimes
>>562893264>says the sonamytard trying to put Sonic in a relationship
>>562893105>Like Batman and RobinYou're joking>Nope
>>562889442
>>562893387NTA but shut up fag.
>>562893469This is kino
>>562892907Windnic doesn't care about being brotherly, OOC.
We're trying so hard just to be contrarian, and now the thread isSonic is an ugly mother fucker,NuAmy is great now that she's blandCream wanting to be a hero makes her a pedophile I think?Characters having love interest are shipping charactersAll women should have dicks now,Surge can't rape Sonic cause he's always willing,Tails is otacon,Rouge and Vector eat Tails,Sonic is antipornRough and Tumble are shitty Beebop and RocksteadyLanolin was better written when she was a /sthg/ oc,And all of these points, every single one, is Sally's fault, she's the cause of all of this.
>>562893257double nigger
>>562893264Shippers never care about characterizations.
SHADALLY
>>562893526Context kills this image,
>>562893264I've never seen a reason to be upset about it, and frankly I think all the micromanaging of anything these characters do has made me not want to say anything at all.I've been comfortable with where I stopped with the franchise (Unleashed), and I don't really engage with any of the new material.
>>562893586Not true, Sonic loves Tails
>>562890152Being a cunt?
>>562893609Sally's blobpaws in my mouth
>>562893738This. The series is trash now and has been for years. Just enjoy what you like and ignore the rest
>bunnie's his real sister!Where is she then? All I see is Sally.
>>562893917Jesus man, kill and cook it first. It's going to be screaming and pissing everywhere
Sonamy is dead, finally.
>>562890437The entire franchise is about characters who want to be like sonic or want to be like sonic but can't admit it. The basis of Shadow is trying to create "the ultimate lifeform" results in creating a Sonic clone. They made an entire game where eggman wins and the only characters who can do shit are sonic and toddler sonic.
>>562894039Sonadowfag...
Sonic fans really be like>I'm gonna make this bargain bin kids' game be the most important story I've ever read and never grow beyond it
>>562894032I'll take care of him
>>562894080Shut the fuck up Sparky
>>562888289Amy turning into a cuck is ironically less weird than level-headed platonic friend Amy
>>562894080>sonic and toddler sonic.They're the same age.>>562894179How is he wrong?
>>562890757Took long enough for her to realize sonic is dogshit
>>562894247Sparky is incestuous and wants to fuck his sister btw.
>>562894218Why do you guys hate charactet development
>>562894249Failsfag...
>>562891878Maybe more romhacks and fan games will make her playable, now that she finally has a moveset that isn't cowshit
TITAN TAILS
>>562894432These are cartoon mascot characters, in a series where episodic adventures are its bread and butter. And no, episodic doesn't mean no continuity. The point is the adventure itself can be enjoyed on its own without prior knowledge of whatever as it is has a beginning, middle and end. No cliffhangers and no setup for other shit. The story ends in one story.
>>562894432Why do you?
>>562894432Nu Amy is boring, even if she stopped creeping out Sonic she should at least keep part of her ridiculous personality. If they wanted a new girl character than make new a one or use Blaze
Sonic characters for this feel
>>562894735>Maybe more romhacks and fan games will make her playableAlmost all the big ones already do.
>>562894887So you agree that Tails was depicted fine in Forces?
IDW has done structural damage to the Sonic fandom
>>562894861
>>562892385Reddit is a shithole. Normies use youtube and even there they notice something is wrong https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4t8ArijCF4
>>562895063Sure
What if Sonic met the Green Goblin?
>>562895068More like Sonic has done structural damage to you guys' brains
Darkagefags (disguised under the name of "Windnic") haven't realized yet but they're beginning to act like Classicfags once did by complaining and trying to stop media that re-contextualized Sonic just like what happened to them before; their target happens to be IDW
>>562895186*strikes mini Chinese gong*Yuu huwurd it hereu fwurst
>>562895240Other than the artstyle, what changed between S3&K, and Adventure 1?
>>562895397Story structure, iconography, character portrayal
>>562895397The gameplay and storytelling What a retarded question, what point did you think you had?
>>562895397Dialogue with voice actors, butt rock, Sonic living around human people
>>562895397A lot, actually.
>>562892583Sega in general is incompetent
you're sad because your ship sank? what ship? stop consuming fan content
>>562895023Cream
>>562892671Classic Tails is actually fucking useful
>>562895240And Classicfags got what they wanted Classic Sonic is back and been back for ages now, the lesson here is bitching on the internet until you get what you want works
I don't hate the changes caused by the Adventure games conceptually. But the changes exist nonetheless. The Advance games I feel do a better job of capturing the Classic elements even if they fall on some of the pitfalls that Sonic Mania did like being waaaay too light on story
>>562895801I know it's ragebait, but even Naka would never agree with this, because it's Americans changing Sonic characters. Also, I didn't want romance in Sonic, but he still would agree that Amy needs to love Sonic.
>>562893735The context is she was asked what her dream is
>>562895998Classic Sonic and Sonic as he wad on the Genesis are not the same. Generations lobotomized this fanbase by creating a label that did not exist.
>>562896037Anon the Genesis games don't even have a story.
>>562894179>being verifiably correct makes you sparky
Sega Sonic Team Head Takashi Iizuka's message for The Legend of Zelda 40th Anniversary:"The Legend of Zelda has had a profound impact on both my life and career as a designer. The first game I played was the original The Legend of Zelda on the NES and Disk System, and its revolutionary design, offering freedom, exploration, and intuitive mechanics, shaped how I view game development.I’ve played every entry in the series since, and working with the Zelda team on Sonic Lost World was a memorable highlight of my career. While each game is unique, Breath of the Wild is my favorite in the franchise, as its expansive world and unmatched sense of discovery brought back the same joy and wonder I felt playing the original.https://gameinformer.com/feature/2026/04/07/40-years-of-zeldas-legend
>>562896436They do. Read the manuals
>>562895017lol finally destroy that dumbass alternate destroyed
>>562889969>nothing will hap
>>562896641They don't, play the games.
>>562896476>and working with the Zelda team on Sonic Lost WorldWait what?
>>562896476
>>562896731You should see a doctor.
>>562896836Frontiers 2 is going to rip off TotK isn't it
>>562896810There’s a Zelda and Yoshi level in Lost WorldNintendo required them to work with those teams and use their assets.
>>562896968I knew the dlc existed I just wasn't aware it was a direct collaboration like that. I think it's the only Sonic game Nintendo developed somewhat
The Legend of Amy
>>562896773Just because a game doesn't tell you a story via text or cutscenes, does not mean a story doesn't exist.
Tails is the only character that Sonic canonically doesn't mind hugging?
>>562897161If a game doesn't have storytelling it doesn't have a story.
>>562897161And the Classics did have cutscenes too even if very basic ones
>>562897038Nintendo didn’t help with development, they basically acted as supervisors, similar to Olympics where they had to make sure they didn’t deviate from design guidelines.Since the nightmare of the CDI era, Ubisoft has been the only company to ever work with a major Nintendo brand that didn’t have Nintendo supervising them the entire time.
Sonic's wife.
>>562897161You're talking to the kind of person who needs yellow paint to show them where to go. If it's not outright spelled out to them it might as well not exist to them.
I love food pics
>>562895998Real Classicfags don't like the newer classic products, especially not Superstars nor they care about the comics. They just played Mania, had their moral victory by claiming that Indeed their Classic Sonic is the superior Sonic, and returned to being quiet until further notice.
>>562897406Going from point A to point B is not a story
>>562897229Yeah because they share a soul bond>>562897351Well ok then, it's just that the Iizuka interview made it seem like they were actively involved
>>562897473No, you just like odd shota pics you weirdo fuck
>>562897363Sonic fucking surge while you watch from the chair
>>562897572Nintendo employees were in their building and over their shoulders along with providing them assets like Links model
a while ago i had a dream that amy was regressed back to a chaotix tier character. i guess the recent thing is the precursor. it's only natural since anything she does seems to trigger someone somewhere
Classicfags should be honored objectively, because only them had consistently great games and know how is Sonic actually engaging on gameplay.
>>562897473Speaking of food I wanted to ask Dragobro to illustrate what's shown on the screen in this image. It's not hard to make out the elements I think. Could even do a version with Kit and Surge as well, maybe a crepe machine or ice cream machine for them
>>562897264>if it doesn't have mocap puppetry and poorly voice dialogue, it doesn't have a story
Tons of companies are coming out in Japan and talking about the Zelda anniversary.Some are even getting small crossovers.Sonic doesn’t seem to be one of them, unless the rumor that Frontiers Definitive Edition is exclusive is true
>>562897758Wouldn't be the first time shitga abandoned a concept completely because they fucked up too many times
>>562897943Nobody should after the garbage that was tears of the kingdom
>>562898083Wasn’t it like one of the highest rated Zelda games of all time
>>562897672I'm not Amy
>>562898083But people loved that game
>>562898160By who?
>>562898083As much as I think BotW is better than TotK whenever I see someone on this general shit on it, I can't help but chuckle. Talk about throwing stones in a glass house.
>>562898302Fans and critics
>>562897812You are going to offend 06fags
Sonic has finally been freed from the pink menace.
>>562893387No, I only want Amy to not be devoid of passion.
>>562898164You seem to really want to watch them fucking though
>>562898307This general unironically defends Sonic 06. Needless, /sthg/ needs to be ignored.
>>562898443more like amy is free from the blue jobber
Apple farmer
>>562898083Nintendo aren't stupid as people think. They can bounce back from their fuck ups somehow for better or for worse. And yes I expect everyone to roll their eyes at my first point but you know it's true.
>>562898443I told you to not post unless you have sloppa to share.
>>562884806>>562893651
>>562898448Being a possessive stalker is not "passion"
Shadamy isn't going to be teased either.Women nowadays don't need love or romance. They need to be shown how independent they can be.
So I guess Sonamyfags are putting all their money on Movie 4 because anywhere else things look grim
>>562898687Wanting Amy to have feelings for Sonic is not trying to put Sonic in a relationship
>>562898606That implies they’ve really had a major fuck up, something like ToTK which was a critical and commercial darling only overshadowed by being a modern day majoras mask and not being as good as it’s original, vs them at their low which is prime 4 which is just a middling game.
>>562898738>They need to be shown how independent they can be.Just make sure not to do a stereotype or trope.
>>562898738Women's happiness is at an all time low because of this
>>562895017>or use BlazeTo be shipping fodder?
>>562898770>expecting a Hollywood movie to do straight, same race romanceLolLmao
name a single sonic game you played in japanese
>>562898891You will get generic girlboss #9283421643 and you will clap and be happy.>>562898897That's just internalized patriarchy.
>>562898978Unleashed, JP audio, just for Werehog
>>562898897>women ruining things for other women Many such cases
>>562898897I'd say it's probably more because they've convinced themselves that everything is bad. Supporting your male partner? Mankeeping and emotional labor. Asking him to do the same (or not asking and forcing it on him anyway)? Expected effort in a relationship, he needs to get his shit together, girl, you deserve better.
>>562898687If Amy's a stalker so is Tails. >>562898770I'm bargaining that they reinvent her and that Sega is forced to follow it that way there's a new consistency they set an example.
No Sonic game has ever won any awards at the game awardsAnd only 3 Sonic games have been nominated for anything.
Crydow
>>562899046I always thought it was weird that JP Werehog had a separate VA from Sonic.
>>562898538>>562898307>>562898330>>562898174I wishI could strangle people through the internet
>>562899191Sonic LIKES being around Tails
>>562899198They fucked over the third movie for one, though.
>duofag no longer gens because now it's made that he's only good slaving for the general It was that easy.
The pink stalker is gone!
>>562899191>that way there's a new consistency they set an example.>"10 different competing standards? We need to establish a new standard so we're all on the same page!">11 different competing standards
>>562899046did you get recompiled?
>>562899262,>plays game in boring way>is upset that he's boredGoodness me
>>562899262Yes anon, almost every game in existence has some lame cheese strategy that when nitpicked makes the game look like shit. Your point?
>>562899298He likes being around Amy too.
They look so cute together without the pink abomination.
>>562899482Nope.
>>562899262You can literally beat the entirety of Sonic Frontiers by just holding forward, that's literally not an exaggeration.
>>562899447Sega doesn't know what to do, they're going to go with a crowd pleaser by default.
>>562899640You just described every single action they've ever taken. This is exactly how we ended up here in the first place.
>>562899603Cope. You don't like Sonic.
>>562899631Nuh uh. You need to occasionally press jump!
>>562899475Reminds me of that guy who does nothing but post WEBMs of soulsgames on /v/
>>562899218Kanemaru probably couldn't pull it off well, he has a very limited range judging by his voice rollhe never really goes into a deeper register>>562899449I haven't yet, I should really get around to it
>>562899563>picrelBut they're on top of a pink thing
>>562894179That's not me.
>>562899768I know I don't.
>>562899715>This is exactly how we ended up here in the first place.I blame incompetence then. What exactly was wrong with Adventure Amy I'm guessing X influenced the aggression?
>>562899781I know exactly who you're talking about and I wish I could go back to the time where I believed it was just a bot and not someone who shitposts about From Soft 20+ hours a day.
>>562899298for no good reason
https://files.catbox.moe/k2yew8.gif
>>562899453>>562899475>>562899631>just*breaks*>play the*scroll*>game*keeps scrolling*>as intended*equips weapon*chud!*breaks again*
>>562894309No the heck I'm not, and no the heck I don't.
oh nyooo Duo melty...
>>562900008Based. Canon unlike Sonamy.
>>562900116Wonder how many more years he's going to spend doing this.
>>562900043Why didn’t he just change his menu layout?Sounds like a skill issue.TOTK is literally better than any Sonic game too
>>562895063Not him, but no, the absolute bare minimum for Tails is Sonic 2, being Sonic's sidekick whose right by his side in the action.
Surgamy better
Imagine getting filtered by a FUCKING Zelda game holy shit.
>>562900043Why would this guy not empty out his inventory so he doesn't have to do that
About to marry Sonic...
>>562899350shitnic is a joke who only loves people who hate him
Reminder this General will tell you that Unleashed and Frontiers were over hated by critics and players
>>562900335So nice of Sonic to walk her to the alter where Amy's waiting for her bride to be...
>>562900043>Can customize the menu so your most used/important items show up first.>Can just use the auto-sort feature that is literally right underneath the bar which will lower the scrolling needed.>Doesn't even need to use that method to destroy the boss if you do find it tedious.We're reaching retard levels that shouldn't be possible even in here.
>>562899968Between that blazefag and the Mexican gachafag who made up like 70% of the thread's activity, you start to realize that 4chan's genuine poster base is a LOT smaller than you'd think.
>>562899262Wow, you can't even do that in Skyrim
>>562900410unleashed was disliked for the werehog shitthe latter never happened. but anons here think it's mid
>good things are bad and bad things are goodIs /sthg/ the Anti Christ
Unleashed isn’t salvageable it’s why it’s not getting a remaster
>>562900552Amy owns this...
>>562889806Can already smell the jnic discorse a few years away
>>562900596No, it wasn't JUST the werehog shit. I'm so tired of this meme
Reminder that Maria is Shadows sister wife
>>562900043This anon would never be able to beat MGS3. You can tell because they're not even reading what's on the screen.
>>562900845Alex Winger approves
>>562900043You did a good job outing the tourists.No Sonic fan cares this much to defend Zelda slop.
>>562900481>>562900308>>562900230>>562900848>why doesn't he just customize the menu for this item you almost never use>why doesn't he just sells everythingoh yeah give me those double standars nintendo slopiness. Squeal pig squeal
>>562900845Maria's cock
>we're stuck with ian flynn because most companies he wants to work for won't take him seriously and may have blacklisted him for suspected wikitheft>if no one complained about some encyclopedia books that gaming wikis took too seriously then there's a possibility he'd have somewhere to go other than Sonic>his prospects have dwindled so much he might as well take his revenge on sonamythe antis created him...
>>562900984Brand loyalty is stupid anon
>>562901047Not our fault he's ass.
>>562891927Technically DIMPS since CHADzuhiko GODGODmoto was making that good shit with other sprite artists for the Advance trilogy.
>>562900845Where would we be if SA2 didn't exist?
>>562900990But....you can get a horse in both games, what is this webm even trying to demonstrate?
>>562901149...? So stop defending shitty Zelda games?
You like Half Life, right?
>>562901236I bet you defend Sonic Heroes
What's your stopping point for the games? Story-wise too.
>>562892040Fowler was honestly on the money with the first 3 films
>>562900971>First with Nero and Kyrie>Then with Leon and Sherry>Finally with Alex and PatriciaSega need to start taking notes from Capcom, this is how you do a ship
The literal worse Zelda games to ever be made, the CD-I games, have more cultural relevancy than the best Sonic game.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTh5J0HsIAg
>>562901203Not here, the franchise would not be here.Sega lost interest in Sonic and Sonic Adventure 2 was a last hurrah.Then higher ups saw it sold gang busters and told them to get back to the Sonic mines.SA2 was the true final fantasy.
>>562901025kek
>>562886253JP can do no wrong in their eyes
>>562900984TotK is a game that personally makes me mad. I had a bunch of webms back in the day to shit on it. I don't how to call these people, they remind me of minecraftfags>look at all this shit you will never do because it's so fucking pointless and require you to grind so fucking muchThey would turn Sonic into another world survival game with shit physics if they could I swear
>>562892385>check redditFrig off, groomer.
>>562901315>No Blue Shift style game where you play as a ARK security officer defending himself against escaped experiments and G.U.N shock troopers.
>>562901534They're off-season with their flags.
>>562901203Probably a better place to be honest
>I had a bunch of webms back in the day to shit on it.Oh my god are you that fucking autist that used to spam threads nonstop on /v/ about how much the game filtered you because you can't navigate simple menu screens? Oh my fucking god of course you would be a fucking Sonic fag holy shit.
>>562888289This is so out of character to me she should absolutely HATE Sally
>>562901685She should be an annoying psycho stalker we know
>>562895230>OoC Memories
>>562888430>>562901685meds sonamybestie
>>562901671>are you the same anon that-holy shit the insecurity. Are you going to shit your diapers? Does two people existing over the internet that hate your shit game makes you shiver in fear this much?
>>562901337I fucking hate Sonic Heroes,the characters move spastically, slide all over the place,instead of just clearing out a room of bad guys, you have to keep switching characters to fulfill the gimmick correct color attack to beat each enemy, instead of learning different enemy attacks and patterns, you just have to remember which stupid color to flip to.The game's artstyle is also fucking garbage, all the characters look like plastic, and now we're back to cartoony locations instead of the unique style the adventure games had going with painted realistic textures designed by the PSO team, not too gritty, but not mindlessly cartoony and simple.And every fucking campaign gives the same order of levels, yeah, they're different somewhat, except Amy is just the levels cut in half, she's easy mode. Why the fuck is she easy mode? Who would select Amy first? There's no point to her campaign.>You want to play Sonic's levels again but trimmed down?Goddamn, what a letdown from SA2, I know that's a tough act to follow, but that doesn't excuse tripping up the stage and shitting your pants in the performance.
>>562901346SA2 for both.
>>562894432Because it isn't actually "character development" it's just erasing certain core aspects of a character to satisfy the complaints of 2010s video game feminists
>>562901373Hope's the closest to Sherry since they're both based on Newt from Aliens.
>>562901957Iizuka's rapid decline as a game director needs to be studied.
>>562896810Introducing, Sonic Frontiers 0.1ahttps://youtu.be/DcqwFtF3lxU?si=fQkS9GUpFmZJ46p2
>>562901346Black Knight's pretty safe stopping point.
>>562901934No, no. I insist, go back to complaining about Zelda. This is hilarious archive material.
>>562902042It is character development, you just don't like it because it ruins your fantasy of having a girl obsessively in love with you for no substantive reason
>>562902139I said why it happened here,>>562901406Simply the series continued cause it was profitable and no one cared anymore.
one day there will be a Sonurge romance comic and I will read it
>>562902315draw it, why wait?
>>562902315Me too.
>>562902186sorry to break it to you but these webms aren't mine. In fact I am out of them. I actually have to thank you anon, thank you for remind me how muchI despise this game When the new zelda game is announced I must be ready to shit on every Zeldanigger I can find
I always thought it was funny in Sonic X when Shadow takes off his limiters and then Sonic just... "unlimits"? Sonic does the same thing even though he has no limiters.
>>562902042>slut tried to inch out a new leaf after the collective shout declared TGD on everything including female gooners
Sex with male hedgehogs
>>562902450I look forward to you self-revealing how much of a mental defect you are in the future. In the mean time I'm going to have fun playing video games.
>>562901671Hey punching bag, your fujolarp general is calling you back. Make pace.
>>562902525...is gay
>>562901957So anyways, yeah, a series you like can and will very likely stop trying after a while.It's okay to admit that Tears is just a copy of Breath with minecraft shit slapped in, it released years ago now, surely you don't need to still defend that 70$ purchase. The sooner you admit your mistake, the sooner you won't make that mistake again.
>>562902453Shadow's an artificial approximation of Sonic and Sonic's an actual god.
>>562902586Taking boywives is normal in patriarchy
>>562902583>Schizo ramblingI have genuinely no idea what the hell you're talking about.
>>562902661Please stop
Sonic and Surge have sex
God i can't wait for Nintendo to declare Total Wildsissy Death as soon as the rumored OoT remake gets announced and lead the entire franchise once again.
>>562902661This is true, everyone knows, and the only people who still deny it are disingenuous.Shadow was made to replicate the Super Sonic prophecized to save the world in the echidna ruins.Surely a super powerful god being capable of saving the world would be able to create a cure for Maria.
>>562902908I don't know how you would even remaster OoT. It's basically perfect as is.
I like Sonurge a lot because Surge is a sweet girl in the inside who had been treated like shit and misled to hate Sonic. I want her to be happy and Sonic is already inspiring her. Sonic cares a lot about her well-being. And Surge does too.
>>562902761You are coping and shitting yourself right now.
>>562902780
>>562902908OoT already got a fucking remake
>>562902983Literally just fanon. Sonic is not a literal god, and neither is Shadow.
>>562901827>>562902024>>562902202>>562902380>>562902559KEK
>>562902989*eyerolls so fucking hard they go off center*I don't think you're baiting, I think Nintendofags are actually this delusional.They are no different than Disney fans at this point, one and the same.
>>562903058That's Classic Sonic not Modern Sonic.
>>562902989You don't, it's probably gonna be something like Star Fox Zero but without the "rhe must promote za hadowaru!" push and obvious counter pointing the FF7 remake.I hope it's actually a worthwhile remake because most of the shit out there suck ass.
>>562903150Well, no, that's what's implied. Super Sonic is a golden god.
>>562903225Retard
Imagine being aware of Nintendos current design philosophy and actually wanting them to turn OoT into open world slop
>>562903313It's not even implied, and the painting in the echidna ruins is so poorly done that it would make more sense to assume it was an echidna than a hedgehog.
>>562903071You're calling NateTheHate and NashWeedle a liar bro.Also OoT 3D was a decade ago, like how OoT was prior.
>>562901047Sucks to suck.
>>562903379>wantingIt's happening bro
>>562902989You don't. You "Remake" it like Final Fantasy VII.
>>562903313>Sonic is a golden godNever knew he was Dennis Reynolds
>>562903379Fuck no. Leave OoT alone already. They remastered it more than a decade ago.
>>562903567But why would you fucking WANT that is my point. They are going to fuck it up.
>>562903382The one painting? Yeah, though it's clearly Sonic, but sure.But why are you assuming Gerald looked at one picture and went>Yeah okay I think I got a good ideaand left without reading anything else, looking at anything else, he just took a picture of the mural and the emerald alter and left to replicate both.
>>562903189Outside of increasing the polygon count, what could you even do with OoT to make it better than the original? I'm asking a genuine question.>>562903242>>562903609The only thing I know about the FF7 remakes is that it's been a complete shitshow since the time jannies appeared.
I literally do not care if they remake OoT as a re-envisioning because I will always have it available on emulator or ship of harkinian and will continue to play it randomised like every week as I do currently
>>562903735It still wouldn't make any sense based on some ruins to think a black arms dna hedgehog would cure Maria. It's just reaching anon.
>>562903058>Chin the Hedgehog was just a Vegito/Shithan precursor
>>562902908I played OOT way too many times to care
>>562902908Some things are better left untouched and in the past. Grim they have no confidence in their current direction they have to turn to this. Yeah, we all liked dungeons. Should've never ditched them for your Breath of the boredom formula.
Please don't rape my childhood anymore than it already has.
>>562903670>Fuck no. Leave OoT alone already.and let FF7slop remain supreme on the Switch 2?? >They remastered it more than a decade ago.and they'll do it again but not on a tiny ass screen.
OOT wasn't the best 1998 game
>>562904017Eww
>>562903671All they gotta do is hogtie and put Aonuma and Fujibayashi in the closet and let their proteges do the work.
>>562904017Delete that picture right now.
>>562902263How about they show us the change amy went through in a campaign where she's the protagonist and not a fucking sidekick
>>562903849I just told you.He was replicating the ultimate life form.Why would he replicate the emerald alter?Why would he use dna of a race that is able to manipulate the energy of the emeralds?Why would he decide to base it on a hedgehog after a few attempts?Why would he specifically make it look like Super Sonic, not Sonic, Super Sonic, and also give the same abilities of Sonic?Why Shadow say he thinks Sonic is the ultimate life form at the end of Sonic Adventure 2?Why is Sonic able to use Chaos Control?Why is Sonic able to turn into Super Sonic at all?(ignore this one, just to hammer home the point, it's not a real point) Why did Eggman call Sonic a golden god in Sonic movie 2?Must all be coincidence, you're right, all these ideas and designs, they put in the game just without any reason.
>>562904047I won't be playing it, anyway. That tiny ass screen sold more units than whatever fuckass Switch they're on now with revolutionary hardware like a Skype Call on Nintendo.
spaghetti with meatballs
>>562904017Wasn't this fixed
>>562901607Do you trust ST to make a good FifthPhantom Saga
>>562890880Shut up, Ian
>>562904340Chilli dog Oh wait, that's westshit.
>>562904316I mean, non-groomer Discord fags need another place to go before Peter Thiel's IDV apocalypse machine activates there.
>>562904342A whole year later iirc. That is still unacceptable especially since it's not the only area where that texture glitch happens.
>>562890880Great. Amy is doing stuff she was already known to be doing so much so Hesse threw shade at it. Only now she can't say she loves Sonic. Great.
>>562904458My windy hero only likes McDonald's...
>>562904359Fuck no, that game looked like shit. Just hire a contractor dev with actual fps experience and have a few Sonic team devs act as guidance and temp workers.
>>562904228That takes too much focus away from Sonic
>>562904294None of this changes that you're basing all of this on the fact that Gerald visited some ruins. Until I've seen actual proof this is still just fanon. Shadow says Sonic is the ultimate life form because Sonic is the main character and outdoes him. Duh.
>>562890772That's subjective. And the point here is then what constitutes as growth if you're removing the thing the narrative is supposed to play off of?
>>562904294once again, another denier is btfo.Why are so many people so reluctant to accept the very obvious subtext of SA2.For god's sake it's a kid's game, not Citizen Kane, it shouldn't take this much to understand it.Modern stories spell shit out too much.
>>562904582Didn't manga Sonic like pizza?
>>562904157Maybe not, 96-2001 was the golden age of gaming after all, but it was still really good.
>>562902908You forgot to mention that they'll finally going to rape Super Metroid dry along with OoT...Happy birthday, Metroid/Zelda fans. Nintendo brings you oblivion.
need sex…
>>562904704I just said he replicated the emerald alter, how the fuck did he do that without going there?Now I'm seeing how you didn't realize this plot point until now, you don't try to piece things and make other spell it out.
>>562904858Silver needs Blaze
>>562904294because he did accept that he'd lose one of the few things he's able to talk about with anyone.
>>562904725Amy had not, and never will be, important yo any narrative.She is a supporting character.
>>562904917Then why do many care about what's happening to her? She's a popular character that hasn't met the vault.
>>562904887Poor Shadow is just a shitty clone of Sonic? Damn, might as well just off himself desu.
>>562904727>subtestanon this is THE autism franchise are you really surprised still that people only seem to be able to take literal meanings?
>>562904781Oh look, the supportive character. Looks more like a heroine.
>>562904987Step out of your Twitter bubble faggot
>>562904851>Super MetroidI don't believe this one bit.Apparently it's 1 of 2 of the next Metroid projects Mercury Stream is working on. But instead of being full 3D in 2D aesthetic, they're doubling down on sprites for the remake.Since when MS specializes on pixel art? Also they're in hot water since their recent project flopped.
>>562905150L ragebait at this point. Amy is a valuable heart to the brand and is more important than your favorite.
Expecting Maekawa to wriye a plot element from a game he never even played is fucking retarded
>>562905148That's like saying Chi Chi is a heroine
>>562905015HE FUCKING DOES.That's why he's out of breath in the final battle and Sonic keeps telling Shadow to leave because Shadow can't keep up.That's why in the final battle Shadow realizes Sonic is the ultimate life form.Sonic finally accepts Shadow's not going to leave and says,>Shadow, I get it now, you're unstoppable, let's defeat him and return to colony! Everyone's waiting for us!Shadow actually kills himself cause he's a shitty clone of Sonic.Now, in later games they say Shadow caught up with Sonic and dropped the plot point that his super form is weaker.Whatever, power level hand jobs and all that cause people whine their favorite isn't the best.
>>562905347Isn't that just Blue Mary's outfit
>>562905441Bulma is. Amy shares no other spotlight.
>>562905347
okay guys sonic might be the wind but i don't think he's a god
>>562905546Poor Shadow. Should have kept the poor clone dead desu. There's really only room in the franchise for one hero.
You guys need to actually read more books or something instead of bending over backwards to make a game that can't even explain how one of its characters ended up in the plot seem like it has this deep, multilayered narrative.This isn't Legacy of Kain.
>>562905689That was the plan, he was suppose to stay dead.
Honey and the rest of the crossover bums of AM2 will not ever be more than extra baggage for Classic ala Mario spinoff roster filler characters.That's why they broke up le team hooligans, it's not happening Honeyfags.
>>562905646He routinely defeats god level threats so I don't think it's wrong to say so
>>562905646He's not, Super Sonic is.
I'm so bored.
Would you raise Movie Sonic?
>>562905735Man. This makes me want to find a depressed Shadow story to read. It must be really unfair to be other characters in the Sonic universe when Sonic exists. He just fucking shows up and Gary Stu cums on everything.
>>562905729With how some of the people in here react, I wonder if any of these people have read something higher than a 5th grade level.
>>562905881Same, nothing excites me anymore
>>562905813That's like saying my dad is me
>>562905729Kain?
>>562904579
>>562905813No he doesn't. Super Sonic does.
>>562905891https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hoa8wUJfs78
>>562905729You're saying it's not that deep, you're just avoiding the actual facts stated and running now.Anything can be multilayered if the writer made it that way.You're saying, "uhh guys this isn't that deep" and I agree, but you're the one falling behind if you couldn't even grasp it.This is your fault.
>>562906003>>562906039Super Sonic is still Sonic, I'm not splitting hairs for you autists
I'm gonna go have sex with Tails now.
>>562890507yet Advance 2 plays better than Advance 1 hmmm
>>562906138desu I sincerely doubt it's that deep myself too. Still must suck to be a side character in his universe though. I'd never compete with Sonic if I were a character in said universe. It's obvious he's the main character.>>562906150According to newer games can't anyone go super if they have the chaos emeralds?
>>562906138you already know he's not going to actually answer your point.
>>562906039What is Super Sonic?Dude moves mountains, made of pure gold light, can control time, can regenerate planets, can summon chains and spears made of pure light.That's a god, what would that be if not a god?He's more overpowered than 99% of the gods in greek and roman myth, and I'm leaving 1% cause I don't really know all those gods.
i hate amyfaggots
>>562906150You sick fuck
Sonic isn't that cool man go read War and Peace or something
>>562906038Fowler...
>>562906476Me too
>>562906476>>562906530die mad about it.
>>562906476We're passionfags, the rose petals that blow with windfags. To hate us is to hate Sonic.
>>562906223NTA but Adv2's level design is shit and started the trend of Dimps putting pits everywhere.
>>562890185>Sonic isn't interested in love.Sonic fans have a serious issue struggling to reconcile two seemingly contradictory modes the series has and that's Western-style cartoonish slapstick and Japanese tonal dissonance. Amy pining for Sonic and Sonic reacting the way he does is played for both.What is a character gimmick.
>>562905747Sonic probably caught on there's something special about him, but pushed it out of his mind cause he couldn't give a fuck cause it's not running and doing Tony Hawk Pro tricks off of rails.
Sonic would break Amy's ankles if she dared to slow him down.
Ian must be the most happy man alive right now. He's probably asking Udon and ArcSys to give him work with the River City series while getting Wayforward on board to make more River City Girls but more queer ooc action.You can just FEEL that knowing smile from far away.
can you imagine being a sonamy fan right now
>>562906150Rouge...
>>562906503Only he can bring east and west together.
I 100% believe Sonic could throw a chaos spear, but he doesn't do that>Ew, get that dungeon and dragons magic faggotry away from me, I'm just going to kick and turn into a ball.
>>562906720>WAAH WAAH PITS>Got filtered by Sky Canyon award.jpg>WHY CAN'T IT BE LIKE THE FIRST TWO ZONESfound the CDfag
>>562903313TRVKE.
>>562907174I like Amy. I'm turning to the movie.
I have not paid any attention to the movie.I just for the first time saw they made the logo pink.I thought that Amy was going to be a side character like Tails, are they really basing an entire movie around her?What a fucking awful idea.Her fucking name is Amy. Imagine going to an Avengers movie and the big new hero the movie based around is, Mathew.She was never suppose to be a top billed character, jesus.
Ok but Surge is Sonic's gf.
wait a minute... I'm white!
>>562906720>I'm going to post one of the last few zones with ramped up obstacles to prove my pointNext you're going to cry about Teminal Velocity and Cyber Track Zone, kek.
>>562907609>No one is reading our comic arc about the screen sick gay jesters that are self inserts of the author.>Throw in Shadow. He growls and fights Sonic for no reason.
I forgot to play Rumble in a while, fuck.
>>562907641No you’re racist and sexist
>>562907329Same here. It’s the only thing left that can save Amy’s character
>>562907768Sentence English?
>>562905646Sonic is the prophesized Legendary God.
>>562907698and im blackexcuse me while i draw thick asses on my main and hyperscat on my secret club alt.
>>562907768You forgot, or you couldn't force yourself to.>No, I like it, I just got to sink more hours into and unlock more skins, then I'll start having fun!
>>562907732>Terminal Velocity*Altitude Limit
>>562905887Yes
>>562907875Kek, why are all black "thick" artists like this?
>>562907609God, this is just reminding me of the fight between Sonic and Shadow in Blade of Courage, that was so cool.
>>562908196they are simply free and wild like the wind.The windy scent of fried chicken more like.
>>562908196Am I actually white if I hate hyperslop?
>>562908321I answered this, they both suck compared to the Uradachi so who gives a shit?
>>562908321I can't believe nuSally is ripping off Julie-Su, someone call Penders!
>>562908341You're a normal person
They changed Movie Sonic's design but forgot to change his feet.
>>562907552Sonic 4 is definitely going to perform the worst out of all the movies
>>562908341It means you're not gay.
>>562908318Watching/Reading Chainsaw Man 24/7 in their favela desensitized them, now they won't vomit like crazy when they draw Surge shooting out a greasy solid turd snake at Sonic.
Pro tip: if you don't have a bidet, use baby wipes
>>562908341You don't like straight shota, west
>>562908435Uradachi?
Someone Sonicman post, please... I miss my lover...
>>562908321Sally is one of several characters who can and one of very few who should use a gun
>>562908714Bidet?
>>562907217I see him using ki blasts by rapidly punching and kicking the air. >>562907920I like logging in to see the new skins and courses, but you're right, I don't give a crap about this gameplay at all when every match is obvious bots and like two real players.
>>562908953exactly
>>562907875Jinu.....
>>562908835I failed, that's not the name at all, that's the art.I'm a fake fan, fuck.I meant the Murasama...
>>562908912Wasn't her only weapon in SatAM a ring?
>>562909157She uses a block of c4 in the opening credits
>>562907732Adv2 difficulty curve is too severe. The zones up to Sky Canyon pretty much play themselves and don't ask much of the player. As I remember, no other zone up to SC requires you to use the trick system to avoid dying, let alone just to progress. SC is like a whole zone built around the design oversight that led to the barrel of doom trapping players in Carnival Night Zone.Adv2's unique gameplay deserved better levels that were designed better to actually teach the players how to get the most out of the mechanics.
>>562909157
new>>562909092>>562909092>>562909092
Surge is a body type 2
>>562909426>>562909426>>562909426
>>562906150Sonic..
>>562909330I honestly this Sonic Advance 2's difficultly was the reason why there was so much Omochaos in Sonic Advance 3
>>562907920I'll be free soon...
>>562896476Ah, so that’s why Sonic games are so empty and aimless today
>>562907217Truke
>>562896476I wonder how iizuka's vidya backlog looks like
