>What is Morimens?A Slay the Spire inspired card gacha featuring elements from the Cthulhu Mythos>Official Linkshttps://store.steampowered.com/app/3052450/Morimens/https://x.com/morimensofcl>Arc 2 Chapter 4 PVhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rmkXTIDAfc>Current Events (V2.4.3)[Rerun Awakenings: Wanda/Salvador/Kathigu-Ra] 2026/3/23 - 2026/4/20[Rerun Event: Feast of Flames] 2026/3/23 - 2026/4/6[Rerun Awakenings: Tulu/Sorel/Doll:Inferno] 2026/4/6 - 2026/5/4[Rerun Event: The Sovereign's Return] 2026/4/6 - 2026/4/20[Wanda Free Skin Event: With Spikenard And Myrrh] 2026/4/6 - 2026/4/19>Upcoming Events (V2.4.3 & beyond)[COLLAB: Saya No Uta]: TBAV2.5: 2026/4/20V2.6: 2026/6/29V2.7: 2026/11/16>Guides & Wikishttps://morimens.huijiwiki.com/https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TCU7LJRzqKeuvLe97y_TfGZ-j6jq5bZX6hskAAJ2mFQ/edit?gid=167686509#gid=167686509>Forgotten Eve>>562365182
Oh my
>>562897489...would
>le funny joekTehehehe xdd
>>562897489"Keeper, do not reproduction frenzy this woman. You will cause the apocalypse."
CodesHVGX-HLDX-QKKNQKBQ-SSDG-JZYUCatsgiftDc5000SilverkeyMistSequenceSayaNoUtaJFQJ-VKUR-KZUYRQKV-NTHK-FPMHYouSavedMorimens
why do you have a sexy saya as your op?
>>562898791I love her a lot, actually. She has it hard.
>>562898859Somebody spiritually indian decided to create the OP.
>>562898948>sanga and casiah are the only ones with bouncy tits in their chibis>mediumHuh
>>562897489thats a peculiar op choice
>>562898859We're getting a Saya collab sometime in the future.
>morimens threads are dead againSurely everyone is just playing the game.
>>562901525They die down around this time of the day.
>>562901525Back to comfy
Logging on to look at Sanga again and imagine being her devoted maid.
>>562897489That's allowed?
>>562905380It's just a mouth.
>>562905380Just do the deed.
>>562901858>threads die after I get off workWe must have a lot of Europeans that play or something.
>>562905380Ive seen worseBlue Archive gen had a vulva op once
is traphase fun?
>>562909110Yes, but it's also a completely different mode so you may or may not like it.
>>562909110It's great. It's just hard to find a team that works well together.
>>562904695consider this.
I still can't get over the fact some niche VN from years ago has unloved wastes of air attached to it. Peak dissolution moment.
>>562912348It was written by Gen Urobuchi. He had a huge following on /a/ some years ago.
>>562912348>/mori/ is unloved wastes of airi knew it
>>562912348I can't imagine being so butthurt over a well known and popular VN.
>still chapter 3>back to 25k silver after OE'ing gdollmy stash is growing again. feels good to know all the permanent archives and story gibs are still unclaimed. maybe it is no mere pipedream to OE gmurphy after all.
>>562916592AND having this as well. preorders are kind of insane.
>>562916245I don't care about the VN. I care about the baggage that came with it.>>562914735Yeah, I know the retard is behind it.
>>562916940>the baggageWho are you even talking about?
>>562917046The problematic fanbase.
>>562918142Why are you being so elusive? Speak clearly or fuck off. Stupid retards like you are so fucking annoying.
we now have our own stresheet as wella true general
>>562908969nice
>>562918219He is a retard who shits himself at loli I'd guess, you can tell by the language he uses.
>>562921045we love lolis here.
>>562921442do NOT lick the Lily!
How many dupes for Liz to do good damage?
>>562921442Koubi.
>>562921619+12 and xu
>>562921757ive been borrowing an e3 xu to see how well it meshes with my OE gdoll team and man, what a treat. i cannot imagine changing gears and going ultra.
>>562921757Fuck. When is Xu rerun? Should i even go +12 Liz because one Tier list says she is good with investment but Flares says she is just shit?
>>562922106You could use her if you want to use her and you like her, but generally, Chaos is a much better paring for Xu Poison (Also a lot more expensive, since Liz is standard but Gdoll/Lily aren't).
>>562922265I think i will save up and roll on G-Doll
aiiieeee karen-sama, please stooop!!
>>562924731gogo +12press the first share button for the free silver, you don't have to actually share anything
>>562925563i keep forgetting pressing the share thing lol on another note, does this thing here has all past awakeners in it? xu and gmurphy included?
>>562925771it should include absolutely everyoneyou can even save it for a future character if you don't feel like you want anyone currently
>>562925961it does souns good. it just feels wrong to drop 200 bucks on the spot for gacha. on the other hand, paying that much is nothing when going out (i dont but still)
>>562926528yeah it will eventually add up to 200 over time if you're getting the best deals anywayfor example preorder deals (like the current arachne one) are some of the best value in the game
>>562924731mawatte~ mawatte~
>>562927029yeah feels good. she is perfect for my doll wife. and i got lily as well!
>>562921512Passionately making out with Lily..s pustules! She is quite mesmerized by that.
>>562921045Fae what the fuck are you doing here?
>>562930403Who? Or what? You calling me a fairy son?
blue vortice team gameplay was kind of boring. but gdoll poison team? insanely fun and addicting.
>>562931934Blue 24 poison is super fun too. Shame Gmurphy stole Miryam and you can't do poison with Red 24 and Xu.
>>562931980how is the gmurphy gameplay? is it fun?
>>562931980I thought Miryam is bad.
>>562932029I've got OE and enjoy it.>>562932195Evil, not bad. She is great.
>>562931934play chaos vortice
>>562932294team?
>>562918142Is the "problematic fanbase" with us in the room right now ?There's no saya fan base, you dumb fuck. It's half old weebs, half larpers.
>>562932486Vortice/Tawil/Hameln/flex (can be Ryker, Nautila, Doll, Caecus, Celeste or anyone really)
>>562932486If you are new just pick the character you like the most and play the game for a bit. I can guarantee that the first 4 chapters are not that hard and will teach you all you need to know.
>>562933056>tawil is e1>no hamelnits so over.
Can Vortice's Load! crit?
2 week account status? Possibly bricked?Care? NoneDoll? Love
>>562936020the CN community considers accounts without OE GDoll bricked so
>>562936020add me, fellow dollfucker!
>>562936287Glad to hear that, I really like her
>>562937087Dollfuckers unite!
>>562938558
>>562938903How did she manage to pet the Keepotter again?
How nice is Doll's WoD to have compared to standard options?
>>562939320you mean GDoll's? It's really good with her OE it's just ok before then + it really wants dupes. Doll's WoD, Deathless Ascent, in the lightless shop is good in general before OE.
so poison damage scales with dmg amp and STR. what about pic rel? does base exalt increases count if the exalt is doing poison?
>>562940006poison doesn't scale with str. Only damage-based poison application like Colorless Spiral and Midnight Tide scales with str. gdoll's poison application isn't dmg-based so it scales with damage amp (which is fortunate because her kit has damage amp). I'm not 100% certain but I think that base dmg buffs like that won't work on poison.
>>562940162oh, STR does not scale with it. i misremembered then. i should check last thread again where anons were talking about poison stuff.
>>562939796>it really wants dupeswell, did 20 rolls and got another copy, now got her WoD at e1. i got 3 WoD dupe items but i think using two on her WoD would be foolish, no?
>>562941739yeah it's like, you want E3 eventually but it's no rush, each increment is small. I hold a lot of WoDs at E2 (including manikin) because I can random into E3 from paid 5 random SSR banners later. plus this banner is still up for a month anyways. there are just some wheels that don't really need dupes at all like Miriam's.
>>562940378i should have posted this earlier
>>562943214Bri am i back in school i'm about to fail this grade
>Steam got achievements now Huh...
Is this Morimens vibe?
When will I need a second team? Also who would you recommend to target pull/build as a second team with these characters? My main team is ghelot, thais, aigis, horla. I really want to try a poison team but it seems like i won't be able to get xu any time soon. I was also wondering if I should dump pulls into kathiga or gdolls banner while they're here.
>>562948218Missing some eyeliner, tentacles and goat legs
>>562948281>kathigashe doesn't function until e3 but is great when she does so keep that in mind
>>562948218this is morimens vibe
What was it's name... I was looking forward to it... but it eosed...
>go play czn>get the new character>equip her, auto stages for upgrades>finallyletsplaythegame.mp4>get reminded i have to farm save data>lose all interest againMeanwhile i can just chill here, do my teambuilding and enjoy grinding some stages. All Morimens needs is some endless roguelike mode like Chaos Worlds (without savedata) in czn and it will be perfect.
morinapping
>>562951594>get reminded i have to farm save datafarm save data? what? that like level grinding?
>>562951710Nta but i quit because of sd grind too.Imagine if you played faded legacy but you could keep all the orisons and relics and rouses you got every run and use them in modes outside the run, except there were even more rng elements to it. That's save data. So if you want to build a new character or team you have to farm dungeons over and over and over trying to get the perfect run with the right setup of good orisons on all their cards, remove all the right cards, get all the right relics that synergize with them etc. Then you have to do it again for every character on the team. Then you have to repeat this whole process every season.
>>562948982fellow moon
>>562948281If you want to be an endgame slave (like me) you'll need five teams, Kathi E3 is a meta pick right for that right now and is more comfortable in exploration than GHelot or especially GDoll. Up until Mouchette/Vortice she was famous for being the cheapest way to get a meta team that was comfortable to play in content. Ofc you might want to see what arachne will bring to the table too. Kath really needs E3 even more than GHelot does so you'd have to be prepared for that, I own everyone E3 and imo she's my fifth strongest exploration team or so (behind Castor+Pollux, Mouchette, Vortice, ThaisPickman).
The event convinced me that Wanda is pure sex.How do I build her, What teams does she work in? How best to I serve my queen?
>>562952727>mfw picturing all that grinding>Then you have to repeat this whole process every season.whatthat sounds like absolute assI thought about trying czn just for the hell of it but this made me not even want to
>>562952814Yes!
>>562953329Not that anon, but when I tried CZN back at its launch, I decided to give the whole save data thing a chance. Then the game moved to the main hub: a giant space station. I got really excited about what kind of base building or other meta-progression systems it would have. Then the first thing the game asked me to do on this giant space station was decide between two societal policies to enact. When I found out they weren't kidding, I just uninstalled. It could have been great, man. It could've been great.
>>562956392I spent easily 400-500h into czn at launch. It was fresh and you thought the game was going into the right direction. But instead of leaning into deckbuilding they embraced the stupid rng gacha shit. and now they got the fomo powercreep leaderboards going, as well as "pull events" in which you get stupid rewards the more you pull on the current banner. Fuck off man
>>562953250Remember the 1:3 or 2:2 ratio1 Ultra: 3 Chaos or 2 Ultra: 2 ChaosUltra needs Chaos buffers to be good
>another morimens player on xwitter>troonWhat the fuck is going on? What are they infecting everything?
is gramona worth the 50 cores?
>>562957906>What are they infecting everything?I could ask you the same thing, tripfag
>>562957906Cant we just eat them?
>>562957906why are you on twitter in the first place
>>562958414nta, but i use twitter. i dont comment on anything; i only follow people with the same interests as me and my feed is pretty interesting without any ragebait or weird westerners with their weird politics. only place i really talk on the internet has been 4chan for over half my life. hm. its so over..
>>562959115xu is such a good fucking design, how do the character designers/artists always manage to cook
>>562959268For Xu in particular, they kept her in the oven for years, which would help with any character design.
>>562959268exactly! i usually spend on hebes and lolis (or traps if available) but xu looks really elegant and sexy. her whole peacock theme with black and gold colors meshes so well. yeah, she is very well designed.
>>562958414Same as the other guy, I hardly ever comment on gacha stuff and only discuss my other hobby. And somehow even it is infected by the retarded in the West.
>>562957919You shouldn't consider unlocking her early game. Sidegrade to Ramona. She is a bit unique case where two characters count as one. So you can't really split her in D-tide, but all Ramona upgrades shared with G-Ramona. Her abilities are stronger, but also require more thinking for better pay off. Also her big nuke skill scales with posse spaming. And you can do some silly things with that. But holy fuck it's hard to play actually. Get her IF>you done rolling on standard banner and don't want to subject yourself to wheel jail>you close enough to arc 2 and have no dedicated keyflare bot
Any tips on who should I target with my rolls and what should I focus on during early game? I just started playing and got the green haired loli on my guarantee banner. Is there any teams I can make that is mostly composed by cute girls?
what the fuck this game is so cool how come ive never heard of it
>>562961378>Is there any teams I can make that is mostly composed by cute girls?yeahquite a few, actuallymaybe take a look at the various women in the standard banner you like and pull in the realm(s) of the ones you're most interested in
>>562961530>pull in the realm(s) of the ones you're most interested inI am not sure I fully understand what the realms mean yet. I hear people saying the purple one is kinda hard to make it work, but that's it.
hopefully czn's retardation isn't going to prevent people from making more of these. I generally don't like roguelike deckbuilders but Mori's pretty interesting and makes me wish we had more of these. more standard animuy card games... unless they're as fun as Chrono Ark
>>562961713>I hear people saying the purple one is kinda hard to make it workwell you rolled jenkin who's in the purple realm (Ultra) but she isn't hard to play IMO, when I started I had a team with her, Ramona, Ogier, and Winkle (pic rel) and it worked fineI think people recommend most newbies pull in Aequor (blue realm) cause it's strong early game but the tentacles fall off towards late-game without some heavy investment.I personally would go to the Awakener Trial section under Interlude > the second to last option on the left with the person and the clock symbol so you can try out units then pull the realms with units you like
>>562962147Ok. Thanks.
xu rerun when, mouchette rerun when
>>562962046Isn't CZN Korean? Also maybe the studio will understand people want challenge and will give it to the playerbase. How is Epic Seven? Does it play itself or is it BA tier?
Morimens just need Nikke or Brown Dust tier lewd skins. come on BIAV! Doll in microbikini! Lily wearing nothing but pasties! Sorel tits covered in blood honey!!
>>562961713>I am not sure I fully understand what the realms mean yetIt's uhhhh. Don't think about it too hard. You can check what each realm provides in lineup screen, just click on top right cornenr and if you want more info just click on specific realm. Just remember that going mono-team or having chaos characters (this count as mono-team) will not nerf the realm gimmicks.
>>562957919yes. high effort exalt animation and kit.>>562961713it's not hard to make work, if you get the ez limited ultras released in the past year (castor + pollux + clementine). Trying to get daffodil or Wanda working yes thats hard. Jenkin is one of the easier standards to clear early story with, Get Em Brown and Swarm Impact just do more damage than anyone else for less effort. Plus shes fun.
>>562962782At what point are they going to rework realm masteries? Half anni/anniversary?
>>562962447>rerunning after they just got their initial runAnon...
>>562961713realms add different gameplay mechanics to your battlessome characters interact more with them, some don't care and make them more of an afterthought>aequortentacles build up every turn and smacktell tentacles to protect or smack harder>caroheal juice builds up every turn, use to healbaby meter goes up every turn, exalts eat baby to get bonus>ultrafirst card played every turn gets copied into a bar above your teamonce every slot in the bar is filled with a card, get an extra turn before the enemy acts, all cards in the bar go into your hand during that turnyou can also remove a card from the bar and get an insight card once per turn
can you pull more than one ssr in the beginner draw?
>>562963756No
>>562963213possibly never, vortice gives too much fucking RM to ever make the stat better than mediocre
>>562962046Chrono Ark is so good, kinda wish Morimens had similar countdown mechanics, but otherwise it really scratches the itch CA left
winkle or faint bros..
>>562965387nvm just went with faint
>>562962782>>562963130>>562963509Initially, I should focus on one of the realms, right? Difficulty to master them aside, which one will make my experience more fun early game? Considering enemies I will face on the story/events/currency challenges stuff.
>>562966398nah just play around the limiteds you pull of whatever color. realm tribalism is mostly a community joke, you can mix colors however the power level of the units/team synergy is what matters.
>>562966398Caro and Chaos are probably the most newbie friendly ones if you ask me because Caro allows you to heal.
Nyeed nyew connyent....
>>562967574I guess Arachne's kit soon. For real this time.
random faggot passing by, how long is the story in this gacha?
>>562968120took me 180 hours I think to do full story + hard up to chapter 7. Its almost all gameplay.
>>562968410>180 hoursholy..imagine all the free pulls
>>562968410I see, what's the story status? your usual endless running gacha?
>>562969023nta, but the story is quite well-written and shit happens. there are no fillers. those are left for the side-stories focusing on all the characters
>>562969023At first it feels that way, but then in chapter 7 EOS was imminent so they had to exposition dump in chapter 8 to conclude the story in chapter 9. Most people thought it was rushed, and ofc it was rushed, but I mostly enjoyed the ridiculous fast pace with a few exceptions. Arc 2, the current story, had to be made up out of thin air but I like it more so far, more environments and weird shit.
>>562969463actually what I like about arc 2 is there isnt really a status quo, its not an open world kusoge so they dont need to reset everything back to normal every chapter.
To all new morifrens who just started or will try the game for the upcoming Saya collab, here is my code for the free silver VX7JFKK36E it helps me as well.Good luck to whichever banner you roll on in the future and have fun!
>>562971696Says it doesn't exist. Is there a limit?
Sugoi SUGOII
>>562972767here you may try mine as wellRIMVTLJPHE but try to get the anon above if you can.
>>562974961TSUYOI
>>562964010Don't the Chinese rank realm mastery super fucking high? I remember hearing realm mastery was meta for them.
Who do I need to run for Xu comps?
>>562977931I thought this was a meme but looking at chinese 425s they do seem to actively build a lot of it even beyond having wheels like memory spiral +12'd. They seem to like it in pure chaos, divine aequor and non-ghelot caro teams the most. Their Tawil teams especially have 350+ realm mastery.
>>562978753Poison. The most common is Lily and then two of GDoll, Nymphea, Karen, Faint, occasionally Salvador.
kek..
My Inferno is e1, should I go for E3?
>>562982980im fairly new but all guides, and flares, say that e2 is a decent stopping point to be a support for your poison dps.
playing the trials and these arc2 characters are so cool... i'm sad i missed these banners...
>>562987815All limiteds will get reruns eventually. Don't lose hope, newfriend!
>>562901525I am. VERY slowly moving through the story, just finished chapter 2 and finding my way around the skills, upgrades, covenants, etc. This isn't a game that I want to feel stressed or obligated to play religiously
I'm new and I have no idea who to roll for
>>562987815they'll be back soon, I started 4 months ago and own everyone (I'm a paypig btw) thanks to special event banners and stuff. I expect the same would be true four months from now if I started today.
>>562988631go to the awakener trials>>562962147try the standards (permanent section) and the limiteds, draw on the realm that has characters you like
I... just want... Mouchette...
Pull for who you want, newfags! Even the "worst" characters have a place one team or another these days.
i feel like i started to understand whats important for a lineup and how to build teams. i can destroy lv 60 bosses now uehehehe! morimori is so much fun.
>>562988631The most consistent meta carry on rate up right now is Kathugira but she needs E3 to be good, shes overstatted for normal mode arc 1 so she'll do well there at E0 but her kit isnt really functional endgame without three dupes. Salvador is a very competent support at E0 and that doesnt seem likely to change. I would advise against Sorel, Tulu, and Wanda because Sorel and Tulu need specific limited teammates to really do anything and Wanda just is a weak character that needs buffs.
sex
I am probably retarded, but I'm not far enough into the game to regret anything.I got my Thulu, my Murphy and my Miryam.I might be stupid, but I got all of my basic psychological needs met.
>>562992385>I got my Thulu, my Murphy and my Miryam.If you get GMurphy that's a really solid team right thereWhen you get Goliath later you can replace Murphy with her and that's a meta lemurians team for Arc2
>>562992541I already got E1 Goliath from the standard banners, but is Murphy really the character to swap out?I'd assume Miryam for her poison side-gimmick not fitting in, but I know jack about end-game goals.
>>562992730>but is Murphy really the character to swap out?For Arc2 yes, because of this Soulforge Talent GMurphy has. Tulu, Miryam, and Goliath count as Lemurian, Murphy does not. However this only applies in Astral Reign stages (Arc2 rules)>I'd assume Miryam for her poison side-gimmick not fitting inMiryam is the best Aliemus battery in the game (I believe) and has some crazy benefits from her three-part rouse, you're gonna wanna exalt a lot with this team considering the shield it generates
>>562993330Woah, Fauxborn is GMurphy, right?What is the G standing for?And Lemurian specific buffs for Act 2 huh, neat!
>>562992730Keep pulling standard aequor for E3 Caecus and E2 Goliath for endgame.
>>562992730Miryam has one of the best rouse cards in the game (and the only multi-stage rouse, at that), and gives fat stacks of aliemus with her 3-cost. As for her poison, yeah, it's not the focus. However, with her talent scaling off of her crit damage stat, her 2-cost can hit surprisingly hard and deal a decent chunk of poison with enough buffs.
>>562993475>Woah, Fauxborn is GMurphy, right?Yep>What is the G standing for?Genesis, if you wanna learn more you should do Ramona: Timeworn's sidestory at some point (you should eventually do it anyway because it become plot relevant)
>>562993574>>562993630>>562993776Thanks for the tips!I'll keep it in the back of my mind.
So, anyone got any Morimens memes, or is that not a thing in this sub-community?
>>562995734There have been a few. Unless you mean homegrown, Morimens-specific memes, then I haven't seen many.
Can someone explain the banner pacing to me? Is it one new character per month alongside one rerun per month? Do they rerun multiple characters at a time? And how long until a character gets a rerun?
I too wonder roughly when I can expect Vortice to come around again.
>>562995734
>>562997401This has to be bottled air.
>>562996505Usually, around a month or so for a new character. Reruns come in batches of three and run alongside new characters. How long it takes for a first rerun varies, but you can expect no longer than 6 months at worst since they rerun all the part 2 characters for half anni/anni.
>>562998795TyWhen is anni/hanni?
>>562999449Half anniversary is soon. Like two weeks to a month.
>>562999843Awesome
>>562999449Around june I believe. I would expect things to go like this.>Arachne next>saya>half anni
napping
>finally finished +12ing a wheel>want to pull for standard characters>but Xu needs a standard wheel at +12Wheel jail is a sickness.
>>563002381yeahI mean look at this shit
>>5629965051 new character per month unless delays happen (always happen)3 reruns per month unless delays happen (always happen)0 new characters and 6 reruns if delays happen (always happen)
>>563002512>always happens>it's only happened once
>>563002469for the most part, the awakener that the art is referencing on these is the best user for that WoD right?also, damn man I gotta get more familiar with the characters, I only recognize Tinct's, Jenkin's, Casiah (I think that's the hat?), and maybe that's Helot at the top?
>>563003136Wheels are fairly interchangeable actually. For limited ones yeah, you'll usually put them on whoever they belong to but standard ones and some of the better limited ones are shared around. For instance, in that image blade(the one at the top) is technically golaith's wheel but you'll never use it on him. Instead it goes on basically any DPS because it's just generically strong.
>>563003136There are very few WoD's with super niche effect that benefit only specific characters. As anon said most are quite interchangeable. There is no reason to min-max if you started out. You eventually get all the standard WoD's and maybe get them to +12 too.
>>563002469to the newcuties please don't follow this list uncriticaly. will unyielding is a reddit meme even on kath. titan blade is real, do that one, but the others think long and hard about and only do it if you really have a use for it.
>>563004851Will isn't a meme at all.
>>563003136this webpage (still not updated with mouchette + xu + vortice) lists all the wheels and who the related awakener is: https://www.kaiden.gg/morimens/wheels/
>>563003530>>563004084nice thank you guys>>563004995this is also cool, ty too
>>563004951it does nothing that land of nonexistence doesn't already do besides the death resistance. an extra strike isn't useful on kath, she wants to play defends. and you're paying 630 standard rolls for this. no freaking way.
>>562996260>>562995734closest I've seen is threatening other gachas to 'do a collab with Morimens' knowing the implication
>>563005154That's just wrong. There is an argument to be made that it's too high up on that list even considering kath(which I'd largely agree with actually), but arguing that it's bad on kath is just beyond dumb. Like I know you have a hate boner for her(for some reason) but come on.
>>563004851i definitely wasn't planning to +12 anything besides blade anytime soonalso when i was looking at recommended wheels to use my standard selector on i didn't really see any that were commonly used besides blade
>>563005779it's like a small improvement on her at best, doesn't materially improve her like in any way, and this is 630 standard pulls for basically nothing. it's not even in the same universe as tier 4 bloody feast making doresain 50% better.i think kath is probably the best pull right now aside from one copy of salvador fwiw. I'm not going to make fun of kath when she's the best pull on rate up.
Aside from blade, best SSR wheels to +12 for dual wielding are often shop/BP wheels.
>my doll is soulforge level 8Why did I do that?
>>563006218>doresainIs gonna suck no matter what you roll for him.>>563006315This I'd agree with. Someone really ought to make a chart for newbies suggesting which ones to focus on first.
Which Awakener has the most fuckable thighs?
>>563007889thais
>>563007889this promo art makes a compelling case
>start pulling for doll thinking I'm only two levels away from her +5 levels>I'm actually 3 levels away from itWoops
Got Salvador!
>>563008485Gdolls stats are pretty low, the levels are mostly for vanity on her and don't actually make much difference. You can stop at OE and be at like 98% power.
>>563009030Grats! T-pose on your enemies to make them vulnerable!
>>563009263>implying her axiom won't be bustedAnon...
>>563002469Wait, why is the tower wod so high? Isn't this gay failure fish?
>>563009582Caecus? No that's the wheel at the very bottom right.
>>563009348He will go to my Kath. Problem is where does Thais go when everybody wants her.
>>563009690Wait, is the one below Goliath's Faros'?
>>563009851yep
>>563009889What makes it good? I thought Winkle's WoD was also good but based on the list it has tier 3 priority.also>by spooky>ugly bug is used as a background image
>>563009725>He will go to my KathNice, that's what I do with my main content team.>Problem is where does Thais goShe can pretty much go on any team that allows a Caro awakener; she can support pretty much any damage dealer that needs cards (about 90% of them).
>>563010091Leighfren, you are supporting the game..
So are achievements going to be added to accounts retroactively?
>>563009582Damage amp(free damage for the entire team) wheel plus makes strikes give +1 arith. Damage amp might not scale as hard as STR stacking but free damage is free damage. The other effects are just bonuses.
>>563010019that list is bad because other than titan blade all the good wheels are at the bottom
>>563009582the tower wod has a lot of funny uses. there's a covenant called twisted twins black which puts a temporary strike into your hand every other turn. against the downpour lets you play one strike for free every turn. For someone like xu for example this would give her a 0 cost strike she could play for resonance even unroused. the most common thing is to put it on castor so that he gets a 0 cost leap and makes a feather + get aliemus from the strike. etc. you could even put it on nymphea to take advantage of her rouse. none of it is really game breaking but it just has a lot of build arounds. faros theoretically likes playing strikes, but you generally wouldn't be +12ing a wheel for the actual standard awakener it belongs to.
>>563010231Correct. Pic related is only a fraction of my power.
>>563010019incalculable factor was a giga meta wheel in arc 1. in arc 2 the aliemus refund effect it has was nerfed by >50% as one of the astral reign rules so a lot of people have started rating it low because it was nerfed. in reality it's still good because it also gives 200 keyflare and 200 keyflare on exalt is really good, and aliemus is a stat that despite the diminishing returns effect on aliemus recharge is still a good stat to stack fairly high. also pickman gets to exalt 2x per turn very regularly which means 400 keyflare per turn, which is a big deal for caro comps.i'm still not sure it's worth 630 standard rolls, and deathless ascent is a nice +12 aliemus wheel everyone gets for free eventually, so you'd need someone who could really use incalc well that you like a lot.
This being said can Tawil get Fiamma if she copies Kath? Or is it a mechanic tied to Kath? What about Vortice? Can you get the bazooka attacks?
>>563010943kath generates fiamma start of battle with E3 and on exalt, and when you draw kathugira's command cards with her posse when she's in your party. so there's no way for any of these mechanics to put fiamma on tawil command cards.
>>563010943I've never tried it, but Kath's Fiamma stacks only ever come from her Enlighten effects or her exalt/OE. Even if Tawil copies the card, I don't think the Fiamma stacks will come with it. I remember her copying 24's 2-cost, for example, but it didn't come with either the depressed or manic effects (weak/vuln) when she used it, since Tawil doesn't have the stance system 24 does. I imagine it's the same with other stuff like that. As for Vorice, I think that Tawil can get the pursuit stacks, but those are always technically applied to the team anyway and Vortice is the only one with the mechanics to use them.
>>563010758because of arc 2 rules halving aliemus% gain effects happy magic show is now the better wheel. 200 keyflare per exalt, more aliemus refund because it's not affected by aliemus recharge diminishing return and better stat of realm mastery
I need to go into a direction. Who should I start upgrading next?
>>563011406>better stat of realm masteryi'm not chinese enough for this
>>563011406that sounds correct though especially in the case of pickman.
just started playing the gameis this a good roll?should I reawaken?how many times can I do it?
>>563012304Reroll.You can do it forever. I'd reroll until you get Jenkin, Caecus, or Winkle
I decided to fight the failure fish for my daily. Is there a way to purge counter?
>>563012984Literally only Pandia can do that.
Do we actually have femanons here? What do they like about the game?
>>563013049>only Pandia
>>563012984Play a poison comp
>>563013141Obviously not. Girls don't exist.
>>563013141>What do they like about the game?the men, probably
>>563015332is this czn
>>563015332What the fuck? Get this slut out of here.
>>563015394looks like e7 maybe?
>>563017490>>563015394Reverse search gave me thishttps://www.reddit.com/r/LostSwordOfficial/comments/1mmrsfq/they_cooked/
where's arachne news I want to play divine ultra realm
>>563021892Divine ultra realm. You can take an extra turn. 5 turn cooldown.
Ultra really needs a buff. The 'first card gets bonus effect' gimmick works best when theres only 1 ultra on the team. A pure ultra team is just frantic juggling for which cards to be picked first
I'm clearing out the madness Wanda stages with the poison team an anon recommended me earlier. I'm not sure if they're just under leveled (level 3 skills, level 60) but I've had some super close calls. Literally fighting Daffodil I triggered death resistance twice. I'm guessing I should make Karen my keyflare bot? It feels wrong not getting a posse out each turn.
>>563013141For me the bugs mostly. Not enough gachas appeal to the bug rape fantasyI wonder why...
>>563025409poison is not good without xu and lily and gdoll
>>563025779Because the inyouchuu gacha already broke the mold years ago. Everyone knows they can't compete.
Is rerolling a thing in your game
>>563028427The newbie banner lets you reroll until you get a unit you like. Otherwise the game is really generous and has reruns of limited units frequently, so you'll get every character eventually.
>>563028086I'm running all three. I still managed to clear the content but it just didn't feel as strong as it could be. I'm trying to tinker with the build now. I swapped Karen out for nymphaea, but it didn't solve the keyflare issue. Now I'm going to swap out elevated focus for gateway. Honestly if poison isn't just a meme I might invest some wheel jail time into nymph's wheel after I get her to OE.
miryam fight was ludo but i used 2 gnosis to clear it..
>>563028714nymphaea is good keyflare because she gets it as substat for each dupe over E3
>>563029815Which is why I'll be rolling standard banner for a bit to get her to OE.
>>563028427You can try but it's not going to be that great because this game doesn't frontload pulls.
>>563028427yes reroll for old limiteds with the 100 standard pull code
>>563028714Could be investment issue. With those three+Nymphea, the team should absolutely destroy all contents with appropriate investment.Picrel is whale as fuck but it's generally what you should aim for (Lily OE is very overkill and not necessary).
>>563033305Is Xu's WoD worth burning timeloops to E3 it?
>>563035023Xu wheel is very good.
>>563035446How do I check these? I guess I can learn about covenants from here, right?
>>563028114>inyouchuu gachaThat doesn't really count, the gacha is basically just reselling cgs from the original vns.
>>563038289Yeah, that's the joke.
>>563028427no, rerolling is annoying and the game is dupe heavy so getting an early copy of some character doesn't do muchgetting a single copy of every character is pretty trivial after playing for a few months
>>563002469since my main team is poison, gift of decay is much higher in my prio. but i probably should get the titan blade.
>>563010693good job, anon.
When is Morimens going to add more diversity to the cast?
>>563040528I hope they add more shotas
>>563040245GoD is a great wheel to E3 but you'd have to figure out what SSR you'd even want to run it alongside. I got mine to E3+4 before I understood the damage amp formula. I stopped because I don't have another SSR I'd even care about running it with (aside from sunfall which I finally got +12 anyways).
>>563002469who even uses Helot's wod?also bloody feast is way too low, it can easily be second or third priority after titan's blade/incalc
>>563040671Anyone that wants their cards magically teleported into their hand and isn't a main DPS. Also feast is really only useful on exalt centric DPS. Otherwise you are usually better off with other options(even SRs).
>>563035023Only if you have no other better targets but it's generally very good on her.
>>563040618yeah, good point. i would want to give it to xu at the end and have her wield her own WoD with it. but i guess getting her WoD will be a waiting game now.
>>563040671>bloody feastnyems, time to get it for my meta king doresain
>>562997817Nyot an arc 2 unit but, you know what means? GHorla soon!!!
>>563041418you will eat your sarcasm when he gets buffed any day now
get lily to replace faint in my main team or get tawil to e2 for...i dont know. does lily need her first e1 much?
>>563041705getting the first copy of a character is more valuable than an enlightenthat said I would pick Hameln in your case
>>563041514When do they usually drop news? The week before the patch or 2 prior? I've been waiting for Leigh buffs>>563041705Prioritize expanding your roster over dupes via the gacha, unless you're a whale
STOP being so active!!
>>563041768any reason why i should pick the old dude over the cute loli for my poison team?
when were all the arc 1 event SRs added to the lightless store/when should we expect to start seeing the arc 2 event SRs added? they're kind of crappy buys and I'm still a long way off of +12ing the SSRs but was curious.
>>563041895Hameln isn't old. And no, you wouldn't pick him for a poison team. He's generally used with Tawil.
>>563041705I like both lily and hameln a lot. Hameln is more due for a rerun. If you're not anxious for either I would just hold the selector and wait until you get one of them then use it on the other.
>>563041979they've only recently added the SR ones for the first time during the anniversary so we don't know when they'll do it again
>>563041817typically the week before the patchso next wednesday at the earliest
>>563041418It's actually for the better Doresian (AKA Sorel).
>>563042080the thing is, i tried so hard to get lily with standard pulls and only got so far. but in the end, it didnt even matter since i couldnt get her. i had to fall through all the pulls and lose it all. but in the end, it doesnt even matter because i just got her from the selector just now.
this shit is fucking rare and time-gated. newfags beware. i burned through it leveling skills but luckily on my main team..
When did they add steam achievements?
>>563042878yes. the ease of leveling to 60 obscures the true grind, these little covid molecules. them and soulforge shards.for lilly specifically you can get a lot of her skill mats from the first time you clear hard mode of lilly+sorel+daffodil special ops. i need more skill mat dumps like that pls.
>>562997817How to paizuri with Horla?
>>563044601naizuri but literally.
>>563041895My poison teams so farLily - Nymph - GDoll - OgierLily - Nymph - Karen - LizKaren - GDoll - Xu - Pickman
>>563042324I forgot about her. Sculptors annihilation.
How much does Salvador want E2/E3?
>>563048753If all you are using him for is defensive support he is fine at e0.
>>563048753OE for dps salvador
>>563042298What enlightment does she want to function properly?
What should I be spending my rolls on?
>>563050985do newcuties all get offered Before Memories Fade? I didn't realize there was one still active.All those rolls you have are standard rolls so you can use them on a standard banner that has characters you want to use. You can look at the available standards in the awakener trials section. You'll own them all eventually if you want so don't take the decision too seriously.
>>563052279is E3 fraudulent? I don't actually know what dmg increases by atk means and when I've borrowed sorels I don't see a huge ramp up in damage during her exalt.
>>563052328Sorry, that was typo, she needs E3
>>563052408yeah E3+4
>>563052328Look at the damage on first Sorel exalt on turn 2 and see how things scale. This is a combination of Pickman relics, Sorel wheel, and Sorel e3.Investigation-D-Effect Zone: Wave 4: Alert V Battle ReplayKeeper: (100201387)Clementine, Wheel Unseen, Elevated Focus, Life DrainPickman, Paradoxical Realism, Thirsting Brush, Dream of MedicineSorel, By Rose Alone, Path Forsaken, April TributeLeigh, The Glutton's Tale, Dusk and Dawn, Burial Ground's SighsVoracious Resolve6f7b071a-cb18-31c8-bbaf-aae2e29f3b89#E#a
>>563053462Kill all bugs.
>you get 4000 memory fragment dust and some pulls if you do all each special god chaos 10xugh...... at least sekred is easy
>>563053462isn't the E3 doing very little of the increase there? those are 22,000+ damage hits and her E3 is only adding 70 damage to each hit. even on an incredible 10 baby 36 hit exalt it would be adding about 1.2k per hit on average. Which isn't nothing I guess it all adds up.
>Gnosis FragmentsDo i need them for something?
>>563057368yes. you will be obsessed with them late game they are limited and the entire reason to engage with d-tide. they let you level characters above 60. This is a very momentous decision, ten levels makes a character 10% better in any way that scales on stats (which is a lot of things), so choose wisely. Its why things like level 90 Leigh are such a flex.
>Devs originally wanted an insanity/fear mechanic like Darkest Dungeon and Call of Cthulhu>Chose not to because youre fighting cosmic horror with cosmic horror>Awakeners also get stronger the more horror theyre exposed to (Gnosis Awakening/Rouse)Holy shit based!
>>563057652>when you traumadump on the bitch instead
>>563044601So you're going to want to soak those linens in manjuice, then let them really sit for a while until the clothes stiffen up real good around her curves.After that you can go to town on the now coarse and stiff threads.
is the shop always using HKD?
>>563059149yes. the yen trick on steam is not working.
>>563059314I'm not using steam though
>>563059314There is very little difference between each currency for this game, idk why but it is what it is.
I'm unclear on what Gnosis is or what the Gnostic Index stat on an Awakener's data sheet means. Is it something like how close they are to whatever entity gives them their powers?
>>563060617Yes
>>563060617yes. Which is why it's odd to me that Ramona: Timeworn is Ramona's "Genesis Form" when they have identical Gnostic Index values.GDoll and GHelot are canonically genesis awakeners and appropriately have higher gnostic index values, but Murphy and GMurphy have identical scores so you could say GMurphy isn't really a Genesis she's just a parallel universe Murphy.
>>563061561Ramona is also a clone of Tawil so...
>>563050985like the other anon said, the 132 standard rolls go on the standard banner, whichever faction you likeyour silver and limited rolls can go towards the "moonless guide" where you should ideally pick Thais, Hameln, Horla and a character of your choice
>>563062353Is she really? Then she is also a clone of somebody else.
>>563064878A copy of a copy of a copy of a copy: the name becomes the sound of the name.
aiieeee the spoilers senpai
blade of titan won't come home brosthis is gonna take forever
Rraaarrgghh!!! Cumming inside Jenkins rat cunny!!! Watch her give birth to a litter of rat kings!!!
>>563071497could she even give birth though I don't know if awakeners can, they're like some kind of undead
>>563071190each +12 is 640 standard pulls on average. theyre a really big commitment. blade is really that crazy, but yeah its really expensive. story gives out a lot of standard pulls so its ultimately doable but every weapon after that takes way longer and isnt nearly as good.
do you ever use horla rouse? i mostly just leave her in anger stance and forget about her and the other awakeners rouses are usually more important to unlock and spend AP on
Why is my average level 8 here?
>>563072553your account/keeper level
>>563072553Pretty sure it depends on your level as well.
is this damage multiplicative or how does it get factored in? 80 - 100% seems like a massive boost but from what i've seen most ghelot teams don't use helot for some reason
>>563072770It's multiplicative, and its insane, probably the most powerful buff in the game. The only reason I dont run them together is Mouchette also benefits like that from Helot so I give her to Mouchette. I dont actually know why Thais is so favored with GHelot over Helot for most players, maybe it has to do with playing GHelot in exploration (which I refuse to do).
>>563073293>I dont actually know why Thais is so favored with GHelot over Helot for most playersthais can dupe ghelot's flails and make them cheaper for incredibly potent burst turns, this is also the reason why people usually run the lone seed posse with those two as well
>>563072770ghelot needs other wheelchair characters to carry her ass through exploration so no space for helot
>>563073528>no arms>needs a wheelchairI want to princess carry this dumb katawa now.
>>563073293>playing GHelot in exploration (which I refuse to do)it's my only option
>>563073421i mean i know why thais is good but if you have four copies of flail already helot should be more dps than thais. I do wave3 with ghelot and can get five or six flails with no thais most of the time.
>>563074120i'm a spoiled princess. if a team isnt castor+pollux, thaispickman, vortice, mouchette, kath, or lemurians I hate doing exploration with it.
>>563071908very rarely and only for the aliemus or if I want to trigger some relic
>>563074581The thing is helot is basically just an exalt bot and has no other kit. Thais' cards are also good and she is as always a premium baby generator/keyflare bot. Burst turns aren't really a problem for ghelot to begin with, it's surviving and setting them up. Thais helps with both.
Just unlocked Tulu's Posse and I wonder, which Posses do you, the community, reccomend we unlock first, and why?
>>563077917nta, but im using this team for everything. but i kinda rarely use nymphs cards and "merely" her exalt. she is my keyflare-chan right now but i wonder if thais would be better for it? especially since she would give gdoll and xu even more aliemus.
>>563078273Probably for story, technically, but that's still more or less the team you are gonna use for poison in d-tide anyway. Thais is better used elsewhere in multi team content.
>>563078050Miryam's, though keep in mind her quest is incredibly long
>>563078050festival of tideseverything else depends on what characters you use
this game is pretty much identical to R1999, what's the connection here?
>>563080228Isn't R1999 significantly easier? I normally hear it has no challenge.
>>563080228the only thing I know about r1999 is that it's shilled by yurifags which is enough of a reason for me to stay away from it
>>563080228this is a pre-sequel.
>>563080228They are fundamentally different games. I guess both have evil black goo tho.
>>563082973I meant it in the terms of visuals and UI, or maybe they are just using same engine, I dunno
>>563080228Our lead artist went over to R1999 for a while before recently coming back.
oh jeez morimens is banned in china? I had no idea. Thats why it makes no money. I guess thats the cost of eating babies.
>>563084494>eating babiesWe are pro feminism here
>>563084680Feminism hates eating babies because you have to give birth to them first.
>>563084494huhi figured the lack of shown gore was because they were chinese devs and catering to chinashouldn't they be able to show more then? have they ever commented on that?
>>563084494that explains why chinese players play it and you buy stuff in Hong Kong Dollars
>>563085085Hongkong devs I believe. It's the way things are not out of censorship but because they don't want to show it. I believe the recent interview with Light actually touched on it a bit.
>>563085331it's not banned in HK it's banned in the rest of china
>>563085683why is it banned in the first place
>>563085360sometimes you gotta stick to your guns, even if it means averting eos twice. kinda cool how they still managed to turn it around and even release it in JP.
>>563085980I assume it's too dark and you eat babies and buy sorel bathwater. Not a lot of info out there.
>>563085980>multiple on screen child deaths>desert people orgies>baby eating as a mechanicTake your pick.
>>563086524>multiple on screen child deathsOgier's death in his psyche deepdive is probably enough to get this game banned, not even mentioning Aigis committing suicide at the end of the first chapter of all chapters
>150 standard rollsshould I use now?
>>563086757Yes anon that's like four extra levels in a wheel.
>>563086757General flow is>roll until you have a few standard characters>once you have the basics you move to rolling blade from the wheel banner until +12>at this point you can either start working on another wheel or go back to characters
>commit to rolling for Will unyielding for Kath>never end up playing tank Kath>it's one of the best wheels for Lilly>literally just started playing her because she's in meta poisonMy pulls weren't wasted after all anons.
>>563087148they weren't wasted anyway because we get to reset standard characters/wheels every once in a while so you could've just turned it into something else
>>563085360>the recent interview with Lightwhere can I read this?
>>563085031>feminism>the radical notion that women are people
>>563087464I don't think there is a transcription anywhere but there is this video and several threads back anons summarized it too.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Vsd5hUMAT8>>563087937Indeed, it's madness. Women aren't people, they are women.
Is non-genesis Ramona used in any endgame content/teams?
>>563087464there's a transcript on the official discord
>>563088232yeah, she's used way more than her genesis form
>>563088659Really?! I thought GRamona is better because she scales or something.
>>563050865e3 minumum, then give her lvl 80 and pickman
>>563088928Unless you are memeing it up you usually aren't using either as DPS. You use them more for utility. I mean you can, but you usually won't.
>>563088928nah you rarely see GRamona outside of mono chaos teams, while Ramona can flex almost anywhere if you're lacking a keyflare bot that doesn't interfere much with the rest of the team
>>563088928it's complicated, you see both a lot. GRamona is really good with Mouchette so she's gotten a lot more popular recently.
seems like there is a big jump in quality from chapter 5 to 6start of chapter PV, more unique music, better translation/writing. i hope this trend continues.
>>563089898what does GRamona do for Mouchette?
>>563090108gives you three cards on exalt discounted by 1, which adds a lot of damage if they're strikes and stuff
Must figure out a team to eat the most babies possible as often as possible...
>>563092516Sorel, thais, pickman, pick a fourth.
>>563086698>the other kids get a posse of them smiling despite their impending demise>meanwhile bro is impaled to a wall, covered in blood with a blank lifeless look in his eyesRemember to be nice to your Ogier at all times!
>>563094273There's nobody oglier than ogier :)
can you have sex with dolls?
holy shit yuki WON
>>563095334wrong thread bwo
>>563095334Maybe mori spoiled me but those designs look ass
>>563095318I don't know, can you?
>>563095334leave, or else..
>>563095758no way she has that slit in-game, thats edited!
>>563095758she does..oh my goodness..
Bros i really want G Doll but reddit says i should get E3 Kathigura
>>563097248use THAT
>>563095334did she get buffed or something
>>563097248i decided to go for neither
can you play this game casually? I dig the setting but I'm so tired of deck building games
>>563097659Absolutely not, if you don't have Excel running while playing, you're going to lose unless you spend money. :)
>>563097659absolutelythere's only one endgame thankfully and you can ignore the higher difficulties or the mode altogetherlike any gacha it will have a bunch of fomo events that aren't too difficult and can be ignored too
>>563097357Um..... I posted in the wrong thread.... but Yuki buffs in two weeks>>563097659it can definitely be played casually, but its very gameplay-centric. you'll be playing a lot of cards (not much deckbuilding tho).
>>563097659Yeah, pretty easily. Dailies are pretty fast so it makes a great side game.
>>563097659Depends on what you mean by casually. Gameplay is involved and it can be challenging so it's not really a brain off game. But there isn't much constant grinding and attention/time required by weeklies and dailies like some other gachas. Game's also generous so you don't need to whale and there isn't really any competitive aspect to it, even the PvP doesn't use your characters so you can't whale for it, and many systems like PvP and p-dive are completely optional after you get the one time rewards.
>>563093514>PickmanI don't want to see men eating babies. Freak.
Who do I pair her with? I don't have Hameln :(
>>563099167I like ultra characters like clem or horla or castor.
>>563099167she doesn't need Hameln, she doesn't need anyone and works almost everywhereyou only need 3 more copies of her
>>563099641>my Kath team is literally Clem, castor, and Horla
>>563099790I usually don't run all of them because handsize gets pretty tight but castor/kath or clem/horla/kath are go to staples for me.
>>563098537he doesn't eat them, he produces them very efficiently... just keep your waifu away from him
>>563099646I thought she wanted STR generators to capitalize on her burst. So I can just run something like Salvador, Thais (if she isn't working overtime elsewhere), Pickman and Kath? And wouldn't the Hyperflare reset with Ultra turns though?
>>563100113Her wheel is a strength generator and generates a ton
>>563100113Also all flamma cards carry over to ultra with you.
>>563100113A lot of her scaling actually comes from just building up her stacks rather than STR, and she generates a bit of STR on her own anyway. Also Clem is a STR genner.
>>563100113I don't like Pickman+Kath because I don't have enough handspace for the chromaphages. The other anons anons suggesting Clem were onto something, or if you don't have her you can just slot in Ogier. Oh Doresain also works surprisingly well as a strength stacker for Kath teams.
>>563100113Hyperflare doesn't reset until she uses it. You may have seen gorrilion damage hyperflare images, well that comes from stalling a bunch(which frankly is kath's real strength, the ability to do stay alive while still doing alright damage)
>>563100289I see then. Should I use the monthly wheel dupe mats on wod? or is there another one to prioritize?
>>563100793most people don't actually use kath wheel on kath. they use Horla or Tawil wheel. the issue is kath is built in a weird way, her second slot is dedicated to Land of Nonexistence usually so that she has enormous blocks. Which makes it very hard to build enough CR if you use her personal wod. If you have blade of the titan at any rarity you can use Blade of the Titan + Land of Nonexistence for now until you get Horla or Tawil wheel, with either Feast From Afar or Paradox covenant.
>>563100793don't use your dupes on her wod, you might even stop using it on her after you figure out her stall buildsave the dupes until you're more familiar with the game and you'll eventually figure out where they'll be worth spending
I don't like pickman because I played his trial, got overwhelmed reading his cards and trying to understand his mechanics, then spent like 10 minutes spamming his exalt over and over until the fight was over and I never touched him again.
>>563100793>>563101069btw - it's not just the +def that makes Land of Nonexistence good, it's having two defends that can be played then refetched with her exalt and stack fiamma onto each other. Some players +12 Will Unyielding to use instead of Land of Nonexistence for similar effect but with an extra strike too and with a better substat. If you do own Kath wheel it's actually a very cool wheel I use it on GHelot, sometimes Casiah, haven't used it on Pickman yet but it's not unheard of.
>>563100793Thais wheel is the number one priority, after that it's up to you. Also like anon said horla wheel is really good on kath. kath wheel IS good, but it's mostly used on STR gen characters like doresain.
>>563101224Pickman is the Tawil of caro, feels very difficult to get a hang of but incredibly rewarding once you do.
>>563101069(blade of titan is actually extremely good on her btw, arguably BiS, it just feels bad to use a +12 with an SR so most people us it on another team)
>>563101443I'd argue horla's wheel is BIS personally. It's hard to beat bigger crits, more crits, more STR, AND bigger shields. It basically does everything. It's one of the most stacked wheels in the game, only really held back by the inability of most characters to take full advantage of it.
Thanks for the support morifrens. I've been playing this game since Pollux's banner and I still find myself lost when it comes to some of the systems in the game.>>563101069I do have both of them but neither are duped.>>563101303were there any other 12wods that people recommend getting to 12? It's usually Kath's that I see floating around but that's it. I'll follow the other anon's advice on saving these considering the cost of these doko
>>563101797You don't get limited wheels to +12 unless you are a whale, even with the monthly dupe. When I say thais wheel is a priority I mean you max the skill and stop. For standard wheels you can look at >>563002469 for an example of what some value(I don't agree with everything there, but it's a starting point). And of course you'll eventually +12 the shop wheels too.
>>563101797there are too many options, some currently popular ones are Against the Downpour, Bloody Feast, Will Unyielding (I object to this but it is popular), Incalculable Factor (possibly a worse version of Happy Magic Show). you can find a use for all of these so it's a question of which one does what you want for an awakener you want to do it to.Titan Blade should be better than Last Verse E0, Last Verse is especially dupe reliant as weapons go (up to E3 and no further) because very little of its value comes from its substat and all the value comes from the text on the card.
beat my first madness stage. gdoll+xu is such an insane combo. the game difficulty is pretty nice. i was literally on deaths door like twice in elite fights but then completely destroyed the fishcuck. game is really fun. they need to advertise it more because it can easily keep players around.
>>563101713titan blade+12 is 28CR, 60CD, and discounts kath cards quite often. it's just so giga. the double posse during ultra round just might push last verse over the top, I have used it on kath, titan blade just feels very good too.
Is 'absolute axiom' some kind of OE+12 thing?
>>563103053Yes. It's only for welfares and only time will tell how they'll handle it for the gacha units.
>>563103053Yeah, for now it's just for the welfare characters. It is coming to others but it's meant as whale bait so don't worry about it too much.
>>563102524don't ever call our autistic son that again
Lemuriyo
>>563103053Get your +12 gdoll before it's too late anon...
I was trying this out to see how it felt and the extra strike feels so bad. I am convinced WU is a straight downgrade to LoN.
>>563104325she demands it..
Zzz
I find it funny how every realm has their own Arc 2 DPS that's more than capable of pulling their own weight (Light told me that Dore buff is coming soon trust) and then there's Ultra.
>>563110412castor is the strongest unit in the game and castor+pollux is probably the most reliable team in game...
>>563110412Castor? Pollux is a meme but Castor is really good.
>>563101224I don't like Pickman because he's my favorite lovecraft character and fits with my enjoyment of mentally ill artists, but unfortunately his design just bores me. He looks like more suited for Hoyoverse than Morimens.
>>563099963Standing guard outside Clementine's door.
>>563111351if you learn to play him, you'll like him. so don't play him... or else you'll like him.
>>563110891No doubt that Castor is good.Pollux though? The slander shall continue until they Genesis her.
>>563111813The biggest issue with pollux is that castor is too good. Pollux needs castor but castor is already strong enough that it doesn't really matter who you pair with him.
>>563111813Castor needs help to do exploration and pollux does that really well and sin mark scales well enough in boss fights. Exploration viability determines meta/what's playable/what feels good to play more than theoretical damage caps.
>do 10 pulls for fun>oe+5hehe
>>563112208Rats be upon you already does that well enough. And at lower investment.
>>563112708is there rate up or something for her
>>563112983i mean, yeah. kind of.
>>563112771In my experience she does not, it takes a lot of Get Em Browns to equal a soulsearing light.
>>563113237shit...im trying to save for Saya but I kinda need so Gdoll dupes
>>563113619Dead shit is dead shit. Pollux is better but if both clear he isn't worth the investment. >>563113721The monthly dupe shop exists. You can do what I did and just dump those into each month for a while.
>>563113809>monthly dupe shopdidn't know it was a thing. thank you anon
>>563113997Yeah, every month you can buy 1 dupe of any wheel and any character you own for the currency you get from rolling. It's the first priority in that shop. You don't have to use them right away and can stockpile them for the future if you have no one to use them on too.
>>563113997you should also check this out if you havent already; the preorder banner. it gives a dupe item for both awakeners and WoD. and a lot of pulls.
morinight, survive
Is there anything weekly I need to do besides weekly tasks, d tide (haven't touched it yet) and that 1 weekly entry material stage?
>>563118068That's it. You can also do p dive or traphase if you want for a bit of extra scrips and maybe emotes but it's not mandatory.
>>563118068What the anon above me said plus play 50 cards, do whatever event mission unlocked that day-twice. Once at level 60 and then at level 70.
>>563105390It is a straight downgrade to land of nonexistance. You don't want to play strikes.
oyasu/mori/~
>>563119608Who put Leigh in actual clothes? She only gets to wear hand-me-downs and rags!
>>563119562Yeah you do. Strikes have fiamma too and that means more stacks. Between the increased damage and increased aliemus they are pretty decent cards.
>>563120041they have fiamma because they stole fiamma from good cards, kath only generates 1 stack of fiamma on posse usage, 2 on exalt, 1 at end of turn. (Her OE generates 5)I should try removing kath's strike during exploration some time, see how that feels.
g.lotan when
I got this cute fire lady rolling on the limited banner. Is there anyone from my current roaster I can make work with her? If not, I have a lot of standard pulls. Anyone on the non-limited pool I could roll for to support her?
>>562898791the 'yousavedmorimens' code gives 100 standard pulls btw bros
>>563120453Anon each card spawns with a stack too.
sex with femanons
>>563124807Only if you are a bug
>>563125074you're high standards is why your here
>>563123993ogier is best out of those, late game I use tinct from ultra bannerafter chapter 3 you'll get someone for free named Erica who will be good, you can use anyone until then kath is doing to blow everything up
I like asking y'all, whose the most naked awakener
>>563127646tinct
how do I link steam account to mobile uncs
>>563133881Go to qookka games website, login with your steam account, add an email in your account settings. Congrats, you can use that email to login on mobile now
Sorel
How do I report this?
>>563110412I still haven't experienced true endgame but doesn't Xu deal more damage than Doresain if the stars align?
>>563120017>She only gets to wear hand-me-downs and rags!If you ask me, we should take her fucking rags off.
>>563138741They're super different. Usually, Doresian do "more" damage but the whole Doresian team exists to helps him do damage. In contrast, poison team do its own thing and Xu just help you to not die and delete the second hp bar.
>>563123158>fatter whale ass>exposed like a nikke or czn designimagine
Is Vortice good enough to clear hard mode? I want to play different teams than I'm used to, and I've never tried her.Alternatively what are some good teams to clear either arc 1 and 2 hard mode?
>>563145007I'm at chapter 8 on arc one, and the end of chapter one on arc 2.
>>563145007she is
You're saying all these things about Pollux yet you still added hundreds of people with Pollux supports for the raid event. Hypocrites all of you!
>>563147000I think he's cute and breedable
That's it moriBUMP
I'll finish Dtide... tomorrow...
This login event for Wanda's alt art was much better than the one for 24's new costume. I know that the costumes are of vastly different quality, but hopefully this is a sign they learned their lesson from 24's event.
>>563151937Anon should have asked in the thread first. No matter how you spin it he has only himself to blame.
>>563155524Yeah, I remember that discussion. Anon's reading comprehension aside, I still think that 24's login event shouldn't have been structured like that in the first place.
>>563155524I'm more baffled by the fact that people were defending predatory monetization practices.
>>563155524kek i remember. damn, ive been here for a whole month now? time flies.
>>563156871Do you by any chance self-identify as a commie?
>>563156871Powerful. We should all boycott this gacha. Discord? :)
is gDoll E3 a viable (decent) healer/support? be honest
>>563158028>>563158282No. You faggots aren't doing this. Gacha is and of itself a predatory monetization scheme and that goes double for shit like the 24 skin event, no matter how "based" the devs are. No amount of name-calling is going to change that.
>>563156871My gacha can do no wrong, and I do not want people to complain, for any criticism aimed at it is thinly veiled criticism aimed at me
>>563158491Why are YOU still here, hypocrite? Stand for your beliefs. Leave. Now.
>>563158441Yes. I used her at e3(and +1, and +2, and +3) for months before I got enough copies to hit OE. She IS weaker and you will feel a difference but she is viable.
>>563159242>you can't be dissatisfied with parts of something, you either need to be 100% for it or 100% against it
>>563159590Look bro the world is either aqueor or ultrash, you can't have it both ways.
>>563159590>complain about predatory monetization>play game that is predatory monetization a prioriYou are playing a fucking gacha you dumb faggot. Literally throwing with stones in a glass house. Baffled that retards like you even exist.
>>563160296>things are the way they are and nothing can ever change for the betteryou're a real life NPC
>>563160669Do you not even understand what is being discussed here? Are you the retard that failed to get the skin?
>>563160917>everyone's a retard but ME, the corporate bootlicker
>>563159862What even is Ulvash meant to be? What will his Genesis be?
>>563161490Uvhash is Uvhashhttps://lovecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Uvhash
>>563158491>Gacha is and of itself a predatory monetization scheme so..why are you here? lol gacha is gambling. gambling is predatory. gacha wont change or it wouldnt be gacha anymore. if you feel that strongly about it but still play these predatory gacha, it makes you come off like an holier-than-thou fake moralfag. its like saying you care for wildlife but then turn around and hunt elephants.
>>563161937nta but he said nothing about not being fine with it, just that people should call it what it is
>>563162175if you were fine with it you wouldnt talk like that.
>>563162349Why not? I eat pizza despite knowing that it's not healthy for me. Is it forbidden for me to acknowledge that it's not healthy or do I have to pretend that it's healthy?
I'm here to spend money and feel something
If people want to pay money for skins, let them have it. There are no reasons to have 2-week long timegates on something like that
>>563162654Blasphemy! No suggestions are allowed here, the game is perfect as it is and you should quit if you're unhappy with any aspect of it!
>>563162654The timegate is only for the missions, the actual skins go on sale afterward.
>>563162471i know gacha is gambling. but i dont go around and screech how its predatory (like you do while playing gacha) and how anyone defending some anon being stupid enough not to read on how to get a paid skin is a corporate bootlicker.
>ITT: anons learn for the first time that people don't have to like 100% of a thing to be a fan of it
>>563162790there was a timegate for the 24 skin
arithmetica harmony is by far the gayest thing arc 2 has
>>563162890Yes, for the discounted missions that give it. People who just want to buy the skin can(at a higher price). It's dumb the missions expire AFTER buying them but hey, it is what it is.
>>563162471>>563162768You. are. a. hypocrite. Stop pretending you really care about gacha being predatory. Because that is what gacha is. It's in its name. You understand its etymology? You can't be going and complaining about some 'predatory' paid skin monetization when the whole game by nature is a virtual gambling game. Unless you finally just admit to being a little hypocrite tranny, as you kinda implied already here >>563162471
>>563162817you got that scenario wrong, the corporate bootlicker is the other guy defending the 24 skin scam, not the guy defending the scammed anon
>>563162964I find myself counting to ten when I play spire2 trying to play around arithmetica harmony. and when I realize it's not in the game I feel like spire2 is a stupid baby game for not having it. i've played out so many infinites and cycles in card games that i'm really over it, having arithmetica harmony as a limitation actively feels good to me.
>>563163138refer to this post >>563160669
>>563163226it's an artificial bandaid for bad design imolemme go infinite if i want to
I wonder if Morimens would have been better as a multi-part indie title instead of a gacha. In the recent interview, Light said that the "original producer" decided that Morimens would be a gacha from the very beginning. Who knows how different things would have been if the game started as simply an indie sts-like (maybe with an early access phase). It might've succeeded and made BIAV a well-known studio, it might've crashed and burned due to lack of funding compared to the standard gacha model, or it might've faded into obscurity after an overall decent Steam release. From what I've seen from BIAV over the past year of playing, and their inexperience with paid packages and monetization, they might have been much better suited to developing a standalone title. As much as I would have liked for Morimens to have been something fully complete like Chrono Arc, I'm just glad that the devs are generous and are aware of the negatives of the gacha/mobile game model they've been strapped with. It can be difficult to remain patient with them at times, though.
>>563151937>>563155524This is all your fault by the way.
>>563163535Man, I was just expressing my positive feelings about Wanda's login event. I didn't mean anything else by it and haven't posted anything else about it.
>>563163774You are retard.
>>563163105It's also dumb that the deal doesn't explicitly tell you that you won't be able to get it unless you buy it 2 whole weeks before the end of the deal.Like once there are 13 days left there should be a pop-up saying "Hey by the way, you can no longer get the skin that you're probably trying to buy right now."This genuinely looks illegal to me.
>>563163774You don't have to feel bad about anything. It's just a hypocrite tranny complaining about predatory practises while playing a game that has even more predatory practises as its core.
>>563163774you didn't do anything wrong anonsome anons here apparently just see any criticism of the game as a personal attack and will misrepresent what you're saying to insult youhonestly this is the kind of behavior i'd expect from mihoyofags
>>563163774you triggered the one anon who feels extremely strongly about 24's skin event being perfectly desgined and devs can do no wrong
I'm going to be honest. I don't give a shit about skins. Unless they are free ofc :)
>>563163896You have to be a special kind of retard to buy a skin banner that required two weeks of logging in when it runs out in 4 days.
>>563163507>their inexperience with paid packages and monetizationThat's because Light is the one in charge of it all by himself
>>563164052I've seen a lot of predatory gachas and I've literally never encountered one that did this. The 24 skin remains front and center on the deal page even after you can no longer get it, which is 2 whole fucking weeks before it ends. As I said, this look legitimately illegal.
>>563164280this is tiresome to follow. i mean, i started the game when the 24 skin banner was running out. i saw i couldnt get the skin anymore so i didnt buy it. kinda obvious. if one complains about this then one should be complaining daily at rolling on banners because that is inherently more predatory. as i see it, anon is calling out the skin buyer to just be absolutely stupid.
The paid skins are honestly fine, it's the aids shit like how they handled Murphy's halloween skin that really sucks.
This is the easiest fix in the world. Just make the skin a day 1 reward that you get immediately after you pay. Also send it in the mail to anyone who bought this in the past but didn't get it. This way people who failed to complete the missions are still missing out on the extra resources from the timegated missions while still receiving the main thing they bought the package for in the first place.
TL;DRalmost certainly would get fined in the EUUS is case by case and hast the loosest laws so it's uncertainchina has the strinctest regulations and this is definitely illegal>Core violation: The National Press and Publication Administration (NPPA) heavily regulates online games. Rules (including 2023–2024 drafts now in force or near-final) ban reward mechanics that encourage "irrational consumption" or overspending. Selling a banner where rewards cannot be earned due to expired tasks would be seen as misleading consumers about what they're buying — violating transparency and anti-addiction requirements.
>>563164470the buyer can be stupid and the way the game handles its monetization can be improved, these two things are not mutually exclusivealso you touched on another interesting aspect of the whole situation, you decided against buying something which you would've otherwise boughtthis is a missed opportunity for the devs to make more money
>>563164676Bro at least cite shit yourself instead of relying on a bot. You just torpedoed your entire argument.
>>563164948yeah he should just become a lawyer before he can make a point in an internet argument
>>563164948>boomer thinks random anon knows more about law than cutting edge AIlet's get you to bed
>>563164676Guess being a smaller game has its benefits
>>563164676Shouldn't Morimens itself be illegal then for being a gacha? It has predatory gambling on gacha and that it is a double 50/50 system or how many rolls you need is all in the fineprint not even shown on the main page. You have to go out of your way to press on a small icon to read up about it. Meanwhile the skin banner clearly showed a timer running out and getting the skin having a '0/14 logged in days' requirement you could check out on the very first site. You are just absolutely retarded for buying it and then complaining you couldn't get it and you are even moreso retarded to complain about the 24 banner when even worse shit is around and you never saying shit about it.
>>563165048AI just scrapes data and regurgitates the shit said(mostly on social media) with zero attention to if it's actually correct. Because AI cannot know if it's correct, it cannot think. It's a pattern replication machine.
>>563165426>when even worse shit is aroundanon what exactly is worse than "continuing to advertise, front and center, a skin that you can pay money for but aren't actually able to get?"
>>563165439Not only that, it is programmed to be favorable towards your stance if it recognizes words and implications that could give away your stance on a subject matter. If you ask AI if Tencent is collecting data through anticheats it will either tell you>yes, it can very much be possible because...or>no, tencent is too big and does not see it worthy to gain such a scandal because...AI is not some kind of cyborg magic. Yet
>>563165439Well that sounds better your average human on the internet since it's actually checking sources unlike us
I still don't get why they can't just make these events permanent for people that bought them. Why? What's the benefit? At worst you just scammed some guy who didn't read the fine print and he ends up quitting over it. At best you... gain what exactly?
>>563165638Are you seriously trying to argue that rolling on banners that do not disclose any of their systems on the main page, unlike the 24 skin banner, is somehow not worse?
>>563165891It's just typical fomo design but usually other gacha grey out the purchase after the valid time period, guess they just forgot or didn't think about it
>>563165978but the fomo should be for the payment, not for the actual completionnot to mention that in this case it even loses them sales like with this anon:>>563164470>i mean, i started the game when the 24 skin banner was running out. i saw i couldnt get the skin anymore so i didnt buy it.
>>563165891this game paid for advertisements with the YouSavedMorimens code for weeks without realizing the code had been disabled (it's since been re-enabled). just to set expectations for how well thought out these systems might be.
>>563161554>star vampire So is he naturally influenced by them while Leigh was artificially forced into it or what is happening?>Urvash was born this way>Leigh got infected or bitten by something
>>563165894NTA but you're arguing that rolling on gacha (where they're forced by law to disclose odds and exact expected outcomes) is worse than advertising and selling a product that you can't obtain (even if disclosed)i feel like it shouldn't even be necessary to explain the difference but gacha systems are very explicitly legal in most countries while the later isn't
>>563166230You are NOT buying the skin itself. You are paying to UNLOCK the skin banner. To get the skin, among other stuff on that banner, you have to complete tasks. It has a timer running out and a skin that requires a certain amount of days logged in to get it as a requirement. All the information is on the first page. Important when it comes to online stuff. And this is not about legality but about what is more predatory. And not disclosing your rates in online gambling on the very first page is considered much more predatory. Many things are bad in life but perfectly legal.
