Experimental Queue Edition>Game Info:https://store.steampowered.com/app/3065800/Marathon/>Marathon Game Home Pagehttps://www.marathonthegame.com/>The Entire History of Marathonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu7uN6-lNhk [Open] [Embed] [Open]https://marathon.bungie.org/story/>Play the Original Marathon for Freehttps://store.steampowered.com/app/2398450/Classic_Marathon/Databases:https://tauceti.world/https://tauceti.gg/https://marathonmeta.gg/https://marathondb.gg//vg/ Discord:https://discord.gg/RDy8sPCeKcNews:>RECENT PATCH NOTEShttps://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/marathon_update_1052>SEASONS & ROADMAPhttps://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/introducing_seasons_marathon>MARATHON OST VOL. I & II OUThttps://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n3mqJXB_rxXOGplviv8tGdXtHDdL9grK4https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k_FhqMdjI4UChXwooy0VROM84xgCi8JM0>RANKED DETAILShttps://x.com/TauCetiGG/status/2033929468713308638>CRYO ARCHIVE DETAILShttps://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/cryo_archive_overviewPrevious Run >>562778287
RAPED and GAPED game
Hot take but I think each shell should have preferred weapon types that they get extra bonuses with. Things like Recon having proficiency with Snipers/DMRs and Destroyer having proficiency with LMGs/HMGs.
>>562918708The Bungie Brothers
>>562918732Also not so much that you punish people for not using preferred weapons but just nudging people to embrace the archetype. I just think it's a bit silly for something like a stealthy assassin lugging around a big ass HMG.
Looking forward to the game going f2p. I'll drop in and start blasting then.
My guess for all time low this week will be 25k tomorrow. Cryo on Thursday should push us back up to high 20s, and then next week we will probably hit the first 22k. In three weeks I expect the first sub 20 week and it will truely be over
dead game online
>>562919121No way, the mid-season update on the 14th will bring everyone back and then some. 100k incoming, trust
>get first gold anything >internet shits itself >return and another team is right on meFUCK
i tried playing rook and its boring as fuck, i dont get it
Purple salvage rates need to be bumped up for Perimeter and Marsh.
>>562918732Really glad you aren't making this game
>>562919698How is it any different from each Shell having their own unique baseline stat spreads?
rape is all the sweeter when it's drawn out so deliciouslyand gape all the more impressive when it's imbued in painstaking increment
>>562919541It’s funny. You go around and people chat with you and call you Rook
Is this an AI >>562919784There’s no way some nigha who doesn’t play the game has been sitting in these threads for a whole month
>>562920181I'm pretty sure there's at least three different doomposters that have been here the whole time. It's kind of impressive to have this dedication for something so pointless.
>>562920327Escharumposter gets around. There isn't much going on over on /hg/ like, ever. I've seen him here, and on /hdg/, and infrequently but once in a blue moon on /dg/. His little rape arc is getting old though. Kinda wish he'd go back to telling Jega to clean up his massive brute shits.
>>562920327What do these people do all day
>>562920079>where do you think we are.jpg
who’s more pathetic, the journalist crying about people clowning on his reviews on /v/ or the destiny cuck rape spammers
>>562920851(You) for still being here
>>562920851Well one is crying and the other is having fun. You don't have to respect the kind fun being had or even understand it, but you can clearly see the Journos aren't having any.
I'm playing the game, shitposting retards will be replaced by PS Plus and Gamepass users soon.Not having a new this summer is fucking retarded, had to be a niggerape to greenlight that roadmap.
>>562921352Not having a new map* is retarded, you faggots get the point.Good game, bad content release
Imagine if Tarkov or Hunt or Arc or hell any game released a map that could only be played 3 days out of the week
>>562921352>PS Plus and Gamepass usersFull free to play or bust.
I hope you guys will use the cat plushie OP again soon it was cute to scroll past
>>562921824tarkov has like 2 maps that 95% of the community cant play lol
>>562921936Is that through arbitrary restrictions or just getting smoked when trying to play it?
I genuinely think the " *** ******** " incident played a big part in people avoiding this game.
>>562921969both, and it's probably 3 maps now that I think about itlabs, labyrinth, terminalI bet 95% of the players have never been to these maps in tarkov
>>562921917hmm mb
>>562922239I see, well in that case I dunno. I just don't think maps should be restricted outside of narrative reasons. Like doing the Cryo unlock was neat but once it's unlocked it should just be unlocked.
Destroyer needs a nerf if we're being honest.
Who’s this >>562921352
>>562923136Some dainty twink
>>562923049>this character is busted>get in a firefight with players >forget moves exist
Godamn people are fuckin bored out of their minds I guess.Waited til the last 2 minutes to open this key blue key room in Maintenance, got unbelievably shit loot, then I hear footsteps and there's some Destroyer running around with purple shields and gear camping the exit. So we both died to not reaching final exfil without even shooting at each other. Just throwing his own time/loot down the dumpster to maybe prevent someone from getting out with something maybe good. I'd be mad if the room gave anything worth a shit, but the only thing even close to valuable in there was the Shell ID
>>562920079hmm ill try tomorrow during the day then. did 3 outpost games and no one said a thing so i shotgunned some rooks and exfiled with a backpack full of dogshit to sell
>>562918732What kind of bonuses are we talking though? Technically Triage has volt weapons covered and he makes some of the guns actually incredibile (Volt Thrower especially) to the point it'd be borderline busted if there were more volt weapons. How can you balance a character like Assassin or Thief being better with snipers in a meaningful way without making them auto picks that affects the whole weapon class?I don't hate the idea, just feels a bit hard to enforce or do in a fair way
Let’s get patched up.
>>562923049Why?
>>562923485Doctor's orders.
The knive nerf proved to me that they care more about the no lifers than any of the casuals.No lifers with full meele upgrades didnt get nerfed, only freekitters without the meele upgrades.Why is Bungie so dogshit at balance?
>co-evolution 2>spawn as literally far away from bio-research as possible>make it there, dodging a few people on the way>only one corpse and one exfil by the time I finally make it to Quarantine and inject simbiont>get to roof of quarantine quietly to scope out rest of the area>instantly sniped by an assassin with an outlandWhy the fuck couldn't this contract be on literally any other map, I'd take Cryo over this fucking cancerous swamp.
>>562924364happens with tons of games, no lifers and mostly streamers complain about bullshit and then they cave in. one such example is from tarkov, the mosin used to one tap pretty much anything with a chest shot and good ammo, it was the great equalizer. streamers cried and complained and then the devs nerfed it to irrelevancy.
>internet goes down mid matchI am going to fucking scream
How fucking asscrack were the pre-release versions of this game if this is what we ended up with after all of that testing?
What possessed the freekit to fucking run in against the warden?Like dude we can kill it later you do not have the tools to do right now.
>>562924926some of these people are either so dumb, like an actual 80 iq, or they really just don't give an actual fuck. hell, it could be both.
>>562924891That's the thing I wanna know because as a person who played the 2nd "public" pre-test (that was private) not much as MASSIVELY changed apart from prox chat
>>562924926Never argue with yourself over the mentality of players. If they push, just push with them. People don’t have the cognitive responses to be able to realise things themselves.
I am pretty fucking sure I just saw a gold shield in Perimeter, I was scoped in on another Assassin in Station and he saw me and I noticed he shimmered gold before he took a potshot at me. I fucking dipped and he wisely showed me mercy by just exfiling instead of running me down like a dog.
Wow the assasin challenges seem really obtuse to do for their shadow index skin. I need to purposefully almost die, self revive I'm guessing and fully rez my two dead teammates?
I'm really glad your game flopped.Go fuck yourselves you stupid vermin, you guys are nothing but whiny faggots acting like you're some sort of underdog for playing a game made by trannies and corporate dogs.They're so fucking lazy that they couldn't even ship a PvE mode to satiate the Destiny player base that didn't show up for that reason.
>>562924926being new at the game i'd assume, no reason to run free kits otherwise
>>562925372Probably just picked it up from a locked room or something. If he brought it in he 100% would have hunted you>>562925464The shadow index challenges feel very random; for some shells they just require you to just play the character basically (triage & thief) and some are borderline actually almost impossible to do and are extremely buggy (destroyer & recon)
Playing Assassin and sniping people has been kind of fun honestly. As someone who tends towards a close-range to mid-range playstyle with shooters it is kind of clicking with me.
>>562926336>Probably just picked it up from a locked room or something. If he brought it in he 100% would have hunted youMaybe he hit up that key room in Station, I only went for him initially because I was hearing him blast robots from Data Wall.
>Road to Vostok released yesterdayAnd nobody told me?
>>562926430>from Data Wall.Could have been from the locked room by the tick nests in data wall, assuming you're talking about actual data wall and not the fragment near south relay; the two times I've gone in there I've walked away with at least 2 prestige items. So far that room has been the only worthwhile key room I've done out of the 8 or so I've been to.
Were free kits a mistake?
>>562926779No it was closer to where those two little loading/storage decks are, near one of the possible supply drop spawns.
>>562926895nonot giving them a cooldown between uses was
>>562926895no
>I'm dead>Rando teammate kills a rook that was trying to sneak my shit>Spends the rooks entire bleedout timer teabagging him before starting to revive me>Revive gets interrupted and rando killed by another rookAww shame about that timing you fucking goofball.
Finally an actual fucking review. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTzTEGPhQSg
I should be able to transmute lower rarity salvage to higher rarity. Like 10 green chems make 1 blue chem and 10 blue cheese make one of the purple ones
>>562927457Maybe some kind of player driven system to allow trades between players for materials... a market perhaps?
>9k in game
>>562926336Triage ones are very fair, but need better wording. The one where you hit both teammates has to be full revive from body bag and that tripped me up hard
>>562922239Terminal is some of the worst designed shit ever but pretty sure most people have at least tried Labs because you get a free access to it. People just choose not to play it because it's exclusively for 9000h pvp autists and chink cheaters.
It's so easy for americans to say it's fine that this game is niche and bleeding players when they don't have to deal with horrendous matchmaking times and being tossed into servers with horrible ping.
Now that the dust has settled, what went wrong?
i want the destroyer skin for gold rank!
https://www.threads.com/@goofstha/post/DWxCmzdkVBU
>>562927591We can get lower than that.
>>562927984The 50/50 roulette of getting japs or chinks is doing my head in.
steady stable 8k playerbase
>>562929593I'm thinking it'll be a stable playerbase number around 0 players, to be honest.
>freekit throws himself against the tox warden>dies of course>eventually kill it and start to move on>tagged some purples anda gold headed into pinwheel>hasn't spotted us>"Let's play it cool.">Free kit rushes in, dies immediately and the other team hunts us downWish the game had Shitter Based Match Making so I didn't need to play with people like this.At the very least something like giving priority to people with mics would go a long way
>>562930385Foolish maragoy, you are only supposed to play in a premade trio.You are playing a completely different game if you are solo or autofilling.
>>562930385they could match freekitters with freekitters
>>562927681>Triage ones are very fairThat's putting it lightly. I did all of his challenges completely on accident from a single day of playing him. Maybe I just got lucky though>The one where you hit both teammates has to be full revive from body bag and that tripped me up hardDoes it? I definitely don't think I did that. I know lots of challenges and contracts can be bugged>contract to exfil with weapon mods for traxus>pick up weapon mods but die>contract says I completed that portion of the contract>>562930385This is basically why I play solos. If I'm not gonna get the intended experience, I want it to at least be on my terms. Losing loadouts because the matchmaker forces you into a team with tweedle dee and tweedle fuck that make it a mission to make as much noise as possible and suck up anything valuable like vacuum cleaners is awful
>>562929164Ranked isn't worth playing in S1 unless they make some radical changes.
>>562923136He has really short arms and tiny hands, so some roided manlet lmao.
why would they even put ranked in this game? are they retarded? imagine if tarkov put ranked? that shit would be dead.cryo should act as a high priority difficult areanot having an entire gametype dedicated to autistis
>>562932973>are they retarded?yea, picrel
>>562932973They assumed the game would be so populated that streamers (the main audience) would need something even more hardcore to farm epic clips in
and the funny part is that they just split the playerbase between two playlists with ranked
Mid-Season doko?
>think to myself surely I'll have a run where karma will strike me down for playing like the dirtiest rat alive in dire marsh>stole 2 prototype cats from an assassin that just ran out of a locked room with my drone>one tapped a destroyer as he was millimeters from exfil who had a priority contract item on him and only took ammo from his corpse>waited for another player to do all the lockdowns and just killed him as he went to loot the final container>surely god will punish me for the sins I've comitted>keep getting away with itI actually need someone to kill me at this point before I make someone quit the game
>>562934596The game truely conditions you into your worst behaviour.Thats why most people stopped playing.I killed people that didnt deserved to die.I died in positions where nobody woud have ever gain something from my loot, but i woud finally be done with the contract, or be able to upgrade my factions.If this shit happens over and over to you, you will start contemplating if those guys you coud kill right now even deserve to die.You will start to notice you dont have fun.And then you escape.Escape will make you god.If you stopp playing, you win.
i wanted to at least get to level 100 but i don't even want to play this game anymore t b h. playing solo is so boring and progression is so slow it feels pointless, attempting trios is a waste of time because i just get raped by premades. even when i exfil it just feels meaningless. the server slam and the first weeks after release were so much fun but now i feel totally disinterested in the game
>>562936172Try ranked
I think fundamentally this is a game for people who do not return their trolley after putting groceries in the car and leave all their refuse on the table rather than put it in the bin at a fast food joint. its for effervescent degens.
Ran into some team cheating in Perimeter. Pulling off ridiculous sniper shots and chasing teammates to the ends of the map.
Trying to kill the scorch warden solo is an absolute nightmare. Thing has so much fucking health and by the time you're done reloading both of it's shields are already back>EMP and hacking it doesn't stop it from using its abilities>arena is awkward as fuck and doesn't allow you to actually fight him in a comfortable way without getting rimmed>In one of the most highly contested areas on the map that has high player trafficDoes anyone have some good weapon suggestions for killing the bastard?>>562937245I have almost 250 hours in this game and I always make sure to return my trolley and put my fast food rubbish in the bin instead of leaving it for workers to come by and clean later. You can enjoy a video game without being a sociopath anon, it's not that deep
>>562937417Machine guns of any type or a Repeater have the best ammo efficiency for just putting bullets into it.
>>562937606I'll try the demo then since I've got a schema for it. Knowing my luck I'll take this in and it won't spawn though
Its time to stop playing babs
>>562937417The game is not balanced around solo. It was a last minute thing from the beta to appease “feedback” (see crying). The only reason to play solo are stealth keyroom runs and for contracts that trios just never do (run around half the map then exfil).
So the game as it is right now is functionally in its walking death phase. Its not dead yet but its walking down a single linear path that ends in its death by day 90 of its lifespan at current trends. So what do you think they are actually going to do because clearly something major has to change as this is not sustainable.
I see all these clips of Rooks strategically soloing teams, but in my matches they seem to be suicide drones who rush the team mindlessly looking to be gangbanged
>>562939974I do this but as a freekit crew fill.
>>562939223Chuds lost
>>562939974They basically get one off after 9 attempts.
>>562938669nothing, except maybe a few more half assed patches to try to farm good will by appeasing redditors. anything bungie do is just like trying to put a bandaid on a gaping open wound that's already infected. i'm not even sure what they could do to get streamers back on board at this point. even bungie's pet class who the game was exclusively catered to and designed for have soured on it lol
>>562939223not great, not terrible.
For me, it's the lore.
>>562933128Do you think Thief's face was modeled after Ziegler?
>>562941154>Engrossing lore>Byf spent a month making a video about drinkable cheeseburgers for a pittance of his usual views and sounds like he wants to try and kill himself againgrim.
Some cheating software made a breakthrough or something got popular because it’s everywhere now. It’s unplayable in some matches now. I knew Bungie would do this, they deleted that YouTube video about the anticheat to get in early on the anti shills for marketing optics.I knew it, as soon as I went through the Destiny 2 PvP, I knew Marathon would be there in the same spot in 2-3 months. Turning off crossplay, never playing with PC niggers ever again in video games. The biggest faggots. And these cheating teams they’re smart. You what they do? They hit the TAD before they come for you. All right man, very good. Very subtle.
>>562941280Nigga this is the tiger engine its literally just Destiny's client side aimbot and wallhacks used to kill trials of osiris. Players can see your hitbox through walls and turning the mouse just scrolls between which head they are auto aiming at and locked onto. They were always here. The playerbase of none cheaters has mostly left so they are now the majority.
What is the best hacking client?
wtf I want to turn off crossplay on pc too and only play against consoletards
Bungie will be doing a Marathon X Tungtungtungtungtungtung Sahur cross over event.
>>562933128I don't trust a man that can't grow a beard
>>562937245what the other guy said, the people who kill others with 0.1 at exfi just have an outlet to do it here, doesnt mean the game is designed around it
Where the fuck is this $250 million number for Marathon coming from? Like I get paying salaries for years could add up to that, but that number would make it the ~15th most expensive game ever made. And I find that hard to believe with the game's *literal* size being smallishLike that would give it a similar development budget to *Cyberpunk 2077*. There is absolutely no way unless we're including the 3 reboots the game probably hadLike I'm not even trying to cope about Bungie here. It's clear atp the Marathon was gonna be their "The Finals" equivalent while Destiny stayed the big money maker, and obviously that's not panning out. It's definitely looking bleak. But this $250m number seems so fake
>>562942960>studio location>documented pay rates for staff>number of staff>size of marketing campaign>push to replace their destiny uncs with a young userbase that means going all in.>Known production cost of similar projects or studios in the last few years.Schrier has been coyly suggesting its actually over 300 million dollars and that would not shock me at all. This industry is crashing and is not sustainable but nobody wants to say it for the shareholders.
>>562942798>doesnt mean the game is designed around itAround what is this game designed?Hardcore rape simulator, BUT with ethics and morals?
>>562934596Dumb asshole says he isn't really this much of a prick because he can't find anyone to fuck him up. You hunted those people down. You know it. You're trash.
>play for 3 hours>literally 0 progress on anythingI fucking hate this genre man.
>>562943879>hates genre>buys the sweatiest iteration skinner box designed for gambling degenerates
Bungie need to fuck off with these quests what do they want trios to do, go to 4 different POIs over the map?
>>562918484>constant yapping about how this game needs to be PVE or made casual friendlyactual subhumans, even reddit is better atp
>>562942960
>>562942960>>562944612
>Thief sitting in the corner with a wstr on solos>grey kit trip pushes purple team on Perimeter>team cheating in Perimeter>team cheating in Outpost>next outpost run, team doesn’t know what command wing is (they’re fucking level 60) and sat in the foyer for 17 minutes (all of them killed by a rook)>Outpost run where an Assassin rushes a whole team in Flight Control>Gives out dudebro comms, “he’s on me” “he’s right there”, pings no one, communicates nothing>back to Perimeter >trio do a lockbox and start panicking>they want to exfilmimmediately (the fuck did they have 2 spark leaves?)>question: IN ONE RUNAbout to turn this game off forever no jokes
Paul ``Rape Bungie'' Tussy
>>562942960Do you know how salaries work? Even someone sitting at the desk browsing Facebook costs money. If 600 people at a company each earned 250k a year to work as developers. They'd cost 150 million dollars a year to pay. And that is all included in development costs.
I'm studying the comeback
provides reasonable explanation >b-b-but why?elaborates with factual evidence>b-b-but why?continues engaging with the mentally challenged>b-b-but why?traktor slut needs to shut the fuck up
The overrun and sidearm are joke weapons yeah?
>>562945019IT'S HAPPENING
>>562944505Why do you keep saying atp? Are you about to poop??
>>562945135No, not with s mag upgrade they're not
>>562945345BUNGIE WON
>>562941280>>562941391not sure what their logic here was>yea cheaters cant see through walls>its impossibly>because its all server side baby>oh yea lets give a skill to see through walls>cheaters now exploit that
>>562946663They dont need to exploit that. There is literally wallhack toggles from Destiny 2 that work in Marathon. You hit a switch and everyone on the map is a red square you can see no matter the distance. The cheaters don't need to play a specific runner. They know where you are when the match starts and always know where you are because you are a visible red square no matter how you try to be quiet or hide. They are looking right at you from across the map.Google "the tarkov wiggle" and see how this is the genre norm.
>Crazy good with zero mods>No need for an optics mod>Great range>Works just as well hipfiring, allows for quicker strafing than all other weapons The volt thrower is insanely slept on, especially for Triage since his ability prevents overheating.
>>562947280Oh and>Bullshit tracking and bullet size let's it curve around corners Beautiful weapon, I bring it in every match
>>562947280I will bring in grey V11s to Cryo. All the volt weapons are S tier.
>>562946828>Hiding all quiet as shit in an obscure corner as Rook, haven't moved in ages.>Would have likely noticed Recon doing the scan and noticing me.>Recon turns the corner and seems to know exactly the obscure high spot i'm sitting at.It's funny when they're even trying to be subtle about it. Playing Recon makes it it seem like they're just using the shell abilities, even more so once the shell gets some buffs.
Guess the player counts are so low because all the Boomerthon players all croaked from old age.
>>562941154The lore is so good bro.
>>562948318its only been 1 month
>>562948568It'll only be 1+1 month when EoS hits too
>>562948494>/// SLOP ///>+ D//CK B()TT +>-{ fart. }-ENTER: HACKERMAN
trust the plan
>>562949574This is Bungie. I do not trust them. and not in the good way like how i don't trust Kojima.
destiny pvp looks so dumb but at the same time it looks more like titanfall than halounfortunately marathon is way slower and clunkier so it feels more like halo.
>>562951792Destiny is Titanfall 2 with shittier movement but better maps. Marathon is Destiny with shittier movement and shittier maps but teamwork exists still. In theory.
There should really be a passive upgrade that gives you more baseline agility because holy fuck even getting to 50 or 60 agility makes the game handle way differently than being at 20 or 30. It went from John of Duty to Dishonored with the kind of shit I'm doing.
>>562951792>fortunately marathon is way slower and clunkier so it feels more like halo.FTFY
>>562951965>There should really be a passive upgrade that gives you more baseline agilityThere is, in the MIDA tree.
>>562952252Oh fuck I'm retarded then.
>>562951965If you don't want to upgrade the MIDA agility tree (you really should though), just play Vandal. Different shells have different base stats, and she has the highest agility score out of the lot. Without implants and with the MIDA agility maxxed I think you can get to 90.>"yeah but every character should just get to be fas-"No. Shells should have niches. Let vandal be fast.
>>562952851I don't mind that shells excel in their niche and now that I know about the mida upgrade it's fine.
>>562933128I really hate that man
>end up with chinese players>the most cutthroat every man for himself shit I've ever seen.
>>562947280Volt thrower mogs bully unless you're an aimbotter tbdesu.
>>562945345word of mouth finally spread.
>>562947280>slept onive been telling everyone its top tier and has some of the highest base dps since day 1the tradeoff thoughbeit is slow ass projectiles that will often track downed players instead of alive ones
>>562955703the lightning has been unbottled
>>562920181>>562920327You must be new here. The man just likes rape, and wants to spread his joy of it to everyone, whether they like it or not. And we can use actual racial slurs here.>>562920710They're doing it now, you idiot.
>>562923210No No. That's completely expected behavior. Stopping YOU from extracting was the priority. You'll run into more of these people as you get higher, and as the population drops. Some of them blatantly cheating.
>>562924364You've seen bungie do this for how many years now? You're a fucking moron for ever thinking Bungie was going to do anything else. Did you believe bungie when they said they were going to seriously crack down on cheating?
>>562925832They'll do it for views, for challenge, or just to troll you. Record you bitching at them and putting it up. Forcing you to lose all your shit is something that some people like to do.
Did I do good chat
>>562933403>>562932973They wanted to sell themselves as the choice of the hardcore. and they can't back out of ranked. >>562936332LOL. Whatever you do do NOT do that.
>>562933753Next week.
>>562937245Close. It favors more people who are not just selfish but sociopathic, and as a team. So, deliberately leaving the shopping cart to block other people, or letting it roll and hit someone else's car, as long as you extract cleanly. Distracting the shopkeepers so your bro can loot as much in resources as possible.
It's over
>>562938669They're going to wank their journalist contacts and push for a GOTY nomination, and hope that sparks interest.
>>562959245big if true
whats experimental mode?maybe I'll come back to the game
>>562942960There's about 2700 people in the fucking credits. Bungie's HQ is in one of the most expensive parts of the world, competitive in price to downtown NYC or Tokyo. They have a huge core staff, that is known to be some of the best paid in the industry. And that 250 estimate doesn't include marketing. >There is absolutely no way unless we're including the 3 reboots the game probably hadCompany had to pay salaries for those reboots. Why wouldn't they count?Do the math on dev. Credits are avialable, as well as salary ranges. Even if you cut off any potential reboots and cheat everywhere by saying bungie had 100 employees doing nothing for 3 years that don't count to this budget, it still stays well in the AAAA range..>>562943260300 does not include ongoing dev and server costs. They pulled all their people from GDC to do emergency shit. But none of that shit looks good.>>562944863Clearly you should have quit a while ago.
>>562959698It's code for, our game is fucked, lets try cheap gimmicks to see if anything catches on. Like 5x5 mode in highguards, or duos mode. They have no budget for any real dev.
>>562959698bungie sucks so they wont say until it releases
>>562959698They literally don't know. Bungie just says shit and makes it up on the fly later on. Normally it's something the community hates so they roll it back 10% and suddenly everyone loves them. It's like battered wife syndrome in game form
>>562959698my guess is solo cryo
>>562960603LMFAO
>>562960463It's likely similar to Tarkov practice mode where you can load into maps with specific settings and you can't likely exfil anything out. Pretty decent move for learning the maps outside rigorous amount of real matches and Rooking.
>>562959245
>>562960661why not? they're clearly in desperation mode and solo cryo would be easy to implement
>>562960809its just funny because I think that would only increase the issue since it would probably be 1 guy wiping lobbies
>>562959698Dire Marsh but at dusk
>>562960686umm sweetie he has a blue checkmark and white person pfp so he's automatically correct
>>562959245>firm statement (its shutting down)>allegedly>no doubt about itmake up your mind
>>562961427He has a blue checkmark and says things I agree with so I believe him. Also he has a Wesker PFP so he's probably based.
>>562961759>shit from butt on twitter>anon believes cause they watch the same anime
Where the goop is the hype?
>>562959245This guy has been posting non stop about the charts, he's obsessed
>knife nerfed>i instantly go from a diehard marathon fan to praying it shuts down devs, you created me. I was a fan enjoying your game and you ruined that. Enjoy your faggot redditoid retard fanbase now.
dead, raped game
I actually like Marathon but I've hit a wall because I only play solo. The 1 friend who bought this game with me now just plays Marvel Rivals. I've put maybe 80ish hours into it, and I still can't reliably get blue shields. The only purple shield I have is from killing another player in solo Dire Marsh; I've only seen purple shields in solo 3 times now.Also, the NuCaloric mission Selection Pressures 4/4 is bugged, basically slowing any progress towards getting blue shields in my armory rotation.
How to farm locked room keys?
>>562962504gape goopeek ook
>>562963969Get the barter items for the Cyberacme key templates?
Predict the layoffs at BungieHow many?
>>562964151There's no other way?
>>562964219i don't see how sony doesn't finally chimp out once and for all and just liquidate the bitch entirely on the back of being butthurt over getting the shit scammed out of them to the tune of ~4bil usdthe only thing more embarrassing than just doing away with bungie would be propping its corpse up on their continual dime imo
Your player numbers continue to fall! Us DOOMGODS continue to RAPE! You cannot prevent fate, little Marasissies. Escharum has seen to it that all paths lead to your rape and Bungie's end. There is no future for you, there is no future for Bungie... there is only the cold and hard embrace of layoffs and RAPE.
>>562964221The drops themselves are from Commanders (rare) and Wardens (somewhat more common) so not really. They also occasionally spawn in profit opportunities like Secured boxes and Lockboxes, but those are even rarer.
>>562963447>Fix OP weapon>Exploiters get madSounds like Bungie did the right thing.
>~30% increased gape from this time last weekvery impressive
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>>562964951paul tassi is a doomgod by proxy
>>562965035chartgazer doomprophet to the bone
>>562964464is there any site or spreadsheet or whatever that lists which types of container drops which types of items? would make farming this shit a lot easier
why are bungiebros so deranged, /mg/?
>>562964219At least 500 people, but I'm hoping for more and a studio closure.
>>562965409No, because for the most part there are no specific containers which drop keys. There have been cases where i've looted keys that simply lie around on tabletops/resource spawns and on others one might pop up in tool carts, core mod, folis. As said though, the high profit opportunities are the best (and Pinwheel containers) as something like the carrier drones, security boxes, safes, tox rooms, lockboxes and coordinate datapads do have a heightened chance of dropping rare items.
>>562964464Obedience Matrixes drop from drones pretty often (even the cargoless tentacle ones). Turrets, too, but that's rare.>>562965409Unfortunately, despite the ARG this game hasn't attracted the type of autists who want to spend all day collating information on Bungie's unintuitive under-the-hood systems, so just like in Destiny you have to rely on YouTubers and folk knowledge.
>>562965939>Obedience Matrixes drop from drones pretty oftenYes and Commanders, which is why i mentioned them as one potential farming source.
[HUGE NEWS] The Marathon discord now has over 430k discord players.
>>562967585Yet only 26k peak players yesterday. Curious.
How long did it take for Concord and Highguard to die again?
>>562964508what do you mean? they didn’t fix the WSTR lol.
How does one overcome this kind of mental illness?
>>562952851>Shells should have nichesImagine if this was a PvE game and we could actually have shells with meaningful niches and limitations, in a thoughtfully designed sandbox with challenging and varied encounters that test all different skills, thereby necessitating actual teamwork and each player fulfilling their specific role in order to succeed
>>562964508>the one weapon to counter aimbot controller players>exploitersAsk me how I know youre a pleb.
>>562968075marathon has outlived them both by double the time at this point, because marathon is already over a month old
>>562968368Considering the AI images used to grift off the algorithm, it's likely called: Revenue. Being the next in line to predict all sorts of garbage about games from AAA developers is the new Youtube meta and there is quite the cash to be made off the Twitter retards who gamble on these EoS predictions.
>>562968368is that a fake watch-time bar too?You can destroy any channel by spamming these buttons its pretty easy
>>562968398>aimbot controller playersThis isn't a part of any game's balance equation. This is a different issue to fix.
>>562968643it's like/dislike bar
>>562968381sorry sweetie one of the execs got hooked on tarkov and couldn't help himself and then ziegler got brought in and the rest is history
Do we really have to inject again after the wipe, Nona? Please... Have some mercy.
>>562968398jammer is the counter to aim assist lol
>>562968970Does it actually fuck around with cones on MKB? I've literally found no difference with Stryder on most of my matches on Marsh.
>be me>be monkey 0 iq rook>place all my claymores at the pinwheel entrance to kill other rooks>run in and die to runner team because no claymores>help the runner team double
>>562970174I've honestly just started mining the wing entrances solely because there's lot of passages and room to juke teams. Other Rooks will eventually place more mines anyway, so having an early warning system for wherever you're planning on hitting is better than trying to kneecap other Rooks straight out the entrance.
Dindu no quests before wipe.Wont do no quests after wipe.Missions can suck my dick, niggers can suck my dickI only camp exfil
holy shitI was eating you fuck
>>562968901Oh runner, it's time for your 10pm Estradiol shot!
>>562963447>shitter mad he can't spam right click and win close range engagements now
>>562973268It's not like the nerf even affected the higher end of melee upgrades and mods. It's just that you can't put together gutter trash builds and one upgrade and then go shank someone like it's London.
>>562973268Maybe youre just bad at shooting the guy with the knife. Your agressive coping and seething seems to indicate that.
im a bit annoyed I cant rightclick finish squaddies anymore as rook.
>>562972028>niggers can suck my dickI think the other way around is happening with you twinky
>>562974763I think they should just honestly remove the ability to do melee damage to downed runners entirely, mostly because knife isn't really a resource you spend nor does self-revive give people grace periods when someone is up in your face. The finisher siphon, finishers and guns atleast make you spend resources or put you into a lengthy animation to deny the self-res of a single person. Running into a room and spamming right click on all the bodies on the floor in comparison is almost comical in most 1v3 situations because you're doing the intended role of the finisher in almost quarter of the time needed to handle a single player. Make the opponent atleast spend MIPS or any form of ammo if they want their almost instant corpse disposal.
>>562973675>>562973268Bingo. This helps people with purple shields and bad aim, and WSTR users. This hurts the freekitters and shitters.
>>562975696Where it's at now is probably better, where you can still do it with the knife, it just takes more time. The drawback to finishing with a knife is having to be literally on top of someone's body, where their friends are probably looking. It's the same drawback the finisher has, though the finisher takes fucking forever. Trying to do the finisher while any crew member of the other team is still alive is universally retarded, but taking the risk to get close and do it fast is a reasonable middle ground outside of the realm of doing it instantly.
>>562977635That's why your guns are already there, the point was to about the current risk/reward ratio for self revives in cases where your whole team is down and in a state where someone can just shank your entire team with zero counterplay. You already self-revive with low enough health to get one-tapped by the knife anyway, so why make it useable on downed players to begin with? I think the knife in it's current iteration is about as close to being balanced as it gets, but it's utility in team wipes is still way too strong in the cases where the other team is attempting to spend resources to recover.
>>562977420>This hurts the freekitters and shittersGood, I've already fragged tons of shitters who try to knife me thinking they were gonna just two tap me still.
>gook has voicelines same as runnerswhats the point? noone will ever be able to hear those.>the "friendly" ones
>>562978756Because you can squad invite on rook
>>562968368>>562968586Is there a lot of money in the Why X game failed video essay market?
>>562980110It's like with all the content creators chasing trends. Reaction videos grew big because they can still be monetized to a degree with very little effort and most youtube channels are just essaying or content creation of specific games with yapping on top. It's most telling when you consider how much gameplay oriented channels have dropped in viewership over the years and how much the: "Do this now!" type of videos keep getting hooked by the algorithm. It's complete garbage all the way down.
>>562980110in the ragebaiting and anger content market, yes.it taps into a big market of 18-29yo chronically online chuds with rightwing tendencies
Bungie should be careful with their Marathon experiments, or else they might end up committing the cardinal sin...
>>562967970Translating concurrent player count to daily unique users is usually a factor of 10-15x, and for monthly unique users it's higher
>no SBMMdead game
>jiggle peak gaymore>the claymore explodes>still take damage 2m behind coverso, are there actual explosion physics or something or is the netcode just this trash?
Ez 20k
Decided to play Classic Marathon. Neat game. It's fascinating that this came out only a year after Doom, proper 3D and all.
>>562983724I don't think the claymore checks for cover it's just radius. I've been able to boost dash away from them but going behind a wall still fucks you.
>>562982437So 25k peak would mean a DAU of 250k?
LOL
>>562984414>Pay 26 dollars for Destiny 2: The Edge of Rape when I could buy Destiny 1 collection on ps4 for 19.99
>>562984121>Radius.It's a small cone extending around 6m in front of the claymore in a fan pattern. It doesn't go through walls or other cover either, unless your connection is literal dogshit. You trip it and stand anywhere in the frontal cone and you get hit. It's also easy to avoid due to that, as there is a slight delay before the explosion.
>>562983815>playing with original hudRespect. I couldn't do it, I could barely see fuckall in the game to begin with with the darkness and all.
>>562984543My connection is pretty stable so it must be something on Bungie's end.
>>562984264yeah, CCU -> DAU is usually between 10x - 25x depending on average session length. In marathon I figure it's smaller due to how stressful the game is, so around 250k - 300k
>>562984552There is a way to disable it? But I've played Cruelty Squad, so I can handle this. Also, it was a daring choice to open the game with a 3D maze when the game has a default FOV of like 60.
>>562984880Interesting
>>562984907idk about the steam release but it should be the same as the alephone port so there should be a cleaner hud option.
>>562927984>over 2 minutes to queue in on NA east now, i hear the cross-region kicks in at 2:30>rubberband 5 to 10 times per matchgame is shit
dead, gay game
>>562984414Can't wait for Marathon End of Service
>>562936172same im stuck at 88 now, my friends play sometimes but its not even fun we all just collectively get pissed off and go back to our usual games
>read about Marathon online>feel bad>actually play the game>feel good
>>562936332>Hey I know you're getting raped in trios but do you want to get raped in the even sweatier mode full of cheaters?
>>562986462>activate windowskino
>>562986076
>>562986462>Activate WindowsBut I thought only Linux users cheated?
>>562986983Thumbnails looks like there are two legs and a head looking up while getting raped by the gorilla.
>>562987213they are the main source
>>562987213No you don't get it battleye is the infallibles! Linux users are bloody cheaters sir!
>>562987261can't escape the rape
>>562986983Isn't that Activate Windows pop-up like super easy to get rid of without paying a single cent?
https://cheesysproducts.net/store/category/182-marathon-full/damn nigga eight bux
>>562987510Yes it is, but thirdies don't care at all. It's like the fire alarm chirp, they genuinely just do not perceive it anymore since their brain tunes it out
>>562987697>paying to cheat in videogamesHoly guacamole do people really?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9LezMRwS4gcomedy gold>>5629878818bux per day, 30 for a week, 38 for a month
>>562987697damn that footage looks gay
Left pocket full of pink fifties, right pocket got blues in it (beep, beep, beep)Plug send them packs to me, I know what to do with it (brrt)Thousand-dollar shoes, I'm walkin' on a damn ounce (nigga)He ain't runnin' up a bag, he runnin' his damn mouth (pussy)I'm Mr. Swang a Door (yeah), Mr. Beat the Road (yeah)Two thousand on a coat (nigga), steppin' on they throat (nigga)I'm Mr. Ride Foreign (Ride Foreign), I'm Mr. Ain't Goin' (no)He Mr. Pump Faker, I'm Mr. Pot Scraper
bros even rocking that dank old macaction art fuck yeahthis game is fucking raped lmao
>>562988429totally legit reviewsalso surely the cheat software won't backdoor you in any way
gape cope
>>562988429>Mendez>Aguilar >CheyAy ay ay!
cash me in ranked
>>562984907If you are using Aleph One (99% chance you do) then preferences, graphics and HUD plugin.Also don't worry, it's gonna get much worse. Bear with it runnah.
We’ve got the majority of people who actually play Marathon who have high IQ and skill in here. Can we brainstorm how the game can be saved?
>>562989802Put freekits in a second class queue and give actual kits priority queueing with other actual kits.
>>562986462>>562987992the cheat aimbot looks worse the console aim assist lmaois it even working? probably not
>>562989978It's not aimbot it's just shitty walls
>>562989978Features:ESPBox/CornerShell icon/namesNameDistanceHealthShieldSkeletonAIMBOTBone Selection (Head, Neck, Chest, Closest)Aimbot Speed/SmoothingSnaplinesFOV CircleMISCStreamproofneeds autoshoot desu, bit lacking
Why did Bungie even pick battleye, I'm guessing it was the cheapest kernel level solution Sony was willing to pay for.
>'hardcore' shooter>no friendly firelmao
>>562990410Blocks linux cheaters
>>562990863It's actually kind of crazy they're just gonna lock out all the steam box users which will probably be at least 5% of Steam's user share.
>>562987193What's that last game? Looks stupid.
>>562991867fairgames
Still having a blast!
You have one okay round with randos and suddenly they want to add you as butt-buddies for a pre-made.
>>562992690blasting my cum up bungie and sony's ass in a cyclic train back and forth maybe
>struggling to hit 20k
>>562989802A much fuller explanation of what killed youContinuous fixes of little problems like rubberbanding/hit-reg fuckupssome anon suggestion I saw a while back of an alert for if another crew has a bioxitc injector to at least provide a warning so other crews can act accordingly (never taking straight fights) since as-is the thing just ruins any fight it's brought to even post-nerf.in-crew gear based matchmaking for fill - just simple bands of 0-2000 can match together, so free kits can pair up with green shield/grey weapon people, 2000-8000, then 8000+ ; nothing to prevent gold killer squads playing against free kit squadsheat adjustment so thermals can only see people at 0 heat within 50m, and then they'll gradually start to show up the higher their heat bar is in the existing range bands (but also blur the ends so it's not just opaque shapes popping in and out of existence at the edge of range)Single hits from kinetic fire can only do damage to shields OR health with a margin of 25 - if someone has over 25 shields then a single shotgun shell/sniper shot can only take them to 0 shields and full health. Shotguns do more damage to health. Intended result being a WSTR can still two shot someone at point blank, but shields meaningfully provide a buffer to instant death outside of heavy volt weaponry. Ares maybe should change I dunno.Add a tunnel from Complex to north end of Maintenance. Should be a wide underground area with vehicles for cover like a highway tunnel. Low light, trapped but generally traversable without detonating claymores but would require jumping from vehicles.Just fuckin better MTX in every way. Maybe add in limited color customization of existing skins.Gear vouched refunds for confirmed cases of cheating - just give out schemas with zero cost and quantity 1 for the shit you lost when a report / incident is confirmed.Loadouts - save a set of gear that hitting the button will attempt to pull from your vault/buy from the armory.
>>562993197Yea its actually dead. It'll be sunsetted after season 2
>>562992690I'm convinced "blast havers" are all AI bots.
Bungie and the Marasissies have been RAPED. You did not heed the warning I gave, and now Escharum has arrived to rape your little Marathon game into EoS! You struggle to reach even 20k players! You number fewer and fewer and cement the Escharum and his DOOMGODS victory even more every passing day. I offered you salvation, to join us DOOMGODS in our revelry but you chose... delusion. Delusion that Bungie would survive, that Sony would not bring their SIVA infused Katana down upon Bungie's neck. Delusion that this game wasn't Concord 3. Now you have to face the end, you have to face the pillow as Escharum rapes you with his DOOMCOCK.
I love the game but all the 'in one run and extract' contracts on dire Marsh are sapping my will to live
>can’t break 20k before peak east coast timePack it up boys
>>562994204It's a weekday
>>562993880Yeah they're pretty badly designed. I don't mind contested contracts since that at least theoretically engenders PvP, even though I never ran into anyone while doing those personally.
>competitive game>no matchmakinglol
>>562994751Last week we were in the 30s on a weekday
Why the fuck are the Sekuguchi quests so insane? They are my lowest faction and I am also an ass player. They are interesting to me but their quests are definitely waaaay harder than the other factions it seems. Why is that? Is there something particularly good about the cores they sell?
>>562995091Nona gives you a bona
>>562995091I don't get it either. Nothing on the suckigucci line seems particularly powerful. They just copied Tarkov's Jaeger questline of annoying shit because Tarkov did it.
>>562994769You'll see the contested ones popping off much more often in Season 2, because everyone will be rolling through the quests at about the same rate then.
Played gray zone for 6 hours and i had more fun than 70 hours of marath*nIts over
>>562995091>spawn on opposite end of the map of your first quest location>go to heavily contested POI>find the needle in the haystack>make the needle interact with thing on the ass other end of the map>go there, put the thing into another thing>dozens of UESC spawn to fuck you up>somehow you survive>exfil to complete the quest ;)For me it's the last bit especially. That should be more rare, not the norm. Grinding is fine. Starting from zero, especially if you get to 99%, is bullshit.
>continous rubber banding while doing the most braindead trivial actions like jumping and trying to mantleyeah its been going on for 2 weeks, sony needs to save cost on their new hail mary live service game.
>>562996071That game is fun, I only found it thanks to these threads
>he has more fun in some PVE extraction mil sim slopi got bad news for you grandpa, this game wasnt fucking made for you. also go back to rddit
Apparently everyone always knows where I am but I never see them coming.
>>562996783Where do you live? Africa? I have had no rubber banding ever.
>>562997020hearing is better than seeing in this game
>>562997020your lard ass announces your presence everywhere you waddle
>>562993378Adjusting shell specific cores to permanent customizations earnable via faction rewards or similar, with gold core equivalents being unlocked similarly to AI subroutines. Should have a stat that limits your customizations that can also be improved via Sekiguchi, higher value the adjustment the more points it would take. Core slots should be used for more effects like the grey cores, singular utility effects like cores that will highlight boxes containing a specific type of salvage near you periodically.More possible locations for certain priority contracts - stuff like the machine in bio-research should also be in AI Uplink tunnel, so spawning anywhere but right next to bio-research isn't a nightmare.Alternative options for progressing faction priority chains - being able to do co-evolution 2 on Perimeter or Outpost with slightly different objectives (like two kills on Outpost or something)Add a new class of standard contract that are much harder, but offer greater rewards/rep and are free to reroll (existing bullshit that everyone auto-rerolls like in a single run arachne 5 kills or whatever)Progressing NujCal priority quest should give you a free blue shield daily as an interim for how fuckin annoying biolens seeds are to get to reach buying blue shieldsCryo should have a 4x4 safe pocket. Only Cryo.Make Cryo sponsor kit buyable for 15kOne more map in each tier, flipping engagement range for mid/hard (all indoor dire marsh equivalent, more open outpost tier map)firing range/testing ground obviouslypistols replace light melee with knife light attacksShuffle available kinetic SMGs in all sources since they're all similar power levels and Bully is too commonly used, MIDA offering grab bag shit is even on brand for their sponsor kitHolding right click with knife should do a slower stab that hits harder and only works from behind, from the front just does normal right click damagefix annoying bot AI that runs at people who didn't aggro them
>>562997196I'm already trying to go by audio cue but I am having the hardest time localizing player movement
>>562996796Which faction you went for? I went LRI because there's less players playing it so it will be easier to find some pvp theoretically.
>ranked out post>hear a team go up pinwheel>They're in destroyed so we hide in drone>They never come and exfil>Check out destroyed and they didn't even hit the button, they just looted and dipped>Hear nobody else>have the whole map to ourselves>don't have to worry about rooksman, today was a good day.
This game still just pvpve or do people actually play passive now?
>>562995091Because she's cute!
>rubberband multiple times per match>knife hits don't register on uescI thought these dedicated servers were supposed to be good
>>562998263you can hear assassins invis humming, even if they're standing still, triage bots tooyou can hear people switching weaponsor even if they just ADSif you're listening to your own sounds or footsteps, just imagine them being like 5x louder and localized for everyone else
>>562999051It's still hardcore
>>562998263make sure audio is set to studio reference and turn up sfx higher than everything else
>>562999051It's watchable
>>562999051you are the raped
So Assassin and Thief are the only shells worth playing, right?
>>563000707Not even close. Destroyer is incredibly useful in a team and downright dominant in solos when you can play aggressively. Recon is memed on but also stupidly useful once you've downed 1 enemy runner or are getting ambushed as a counter-push tool. If you don't think Triage has value as both a solo and team player you might be legally retarded. Vandal however is kinda meh. She has movement, but so does Thief and Destroyer. Probably the highest skill ceiling in PvP but rarely utilized to her full potential.
I tried playing rook again and rapping on prox chat but no one else ever says anything and other rooks shoot on sight, its actually so fucking boring just wasted like an hour
>>563001185That's how people play.Everything else is just marketing and lies.
>>563000051Set everything up, it's better. But I still get ambushed by players I heard not even once.If I am the problem I may as well quit playing because this is far from fun.
>>563001174>>563000707There's a reason Recon/Vandal are going to get buffed next week. Generally agreed upon top tier for trios though is Triage/Thief/Destroyer. Assassin is an obvious pick for solos and all his shit is useful in trios (if you're not fucking over your crew with smoke when they don't want it) but isn't top best because he doesn't do anything fast, Thief visor counters his shit in active fights, and ratting is less valuable.Recon would be probably similar power level as assassin if her spider bot was actually consistent even if Interrogation is fuckin useless. Vandal is good but just not as good as Destroyer. Destroyer dash requires no setup at all and has no downsides, Vandal slide requires looking where you want to go, sprinting, sliding, and then can't be interrupted and you can't shoot during it. Disruptor is really good but also has a fuckin stupid hitbox so it blows up in your face if you try to peek with it. Double jump is legitimately amazing, but you're not always in a fight where using it is good, and her ult is kinda just a 'do more' button with an insanely overlong startup where you often miss the window it would've been useful just waiting for it to turn on.
>>563001185Does the comms wheel work as prox chat
>>563001185yo yo yo, this ain't arc raiders. NIGGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAhow's my rap?
Exfil with good loot on games I run just trying to clear vault space.Nucal dumping purple shields and meds on me every questReconfu getting buffed Life is good runnerchads)h
>infil>micless teammate immediately hits the supply drop>The other teammate and i who aren't free kits immediately hide while this idiot waits for it to drop down>Gets downed by a sniper>yeah, good luck guys. >disconnects
wait people here actually think knife was OP? kek that is a huge self report, yikes
>>563002991>Right clicking someone with purple shields twice downs them>Knife's not good, NERDS!sounds like you are the only self report here.
>The one good match in six hours of gameplay>Game crashed wow, 250mil well spent, bungie
>>563003617>you are the self reportsure, raaj
>>563001980I don't think so>>563001403>>563002018I'd run around dropping keycards off the map but that seems like a waste of my time, guess I'll play something else
>>562997020its called "hacking"
>>563004118Game is raped anyways, good riddance
>>562997172central yurop. ive had rubber banding since the end of week 2 or even earlier. just frome one day to another. its either sony saving costs or merging me into other regions, either way its unacceptable.
I will never understand what drove Bungie to make an extraction shooter. That's a niche genre on its way out. How fucking brainfucked are they? And how did they get Sony to give them so much money?
>>563004494Probably not enough people in your region so matchmaking puts you elsewhere since it probably doesn't want queue times to be like 20 minutes.
>>5630036172 knife heavies is not even a particularly fast ttk I don't get why this was ever even a topic of discussion other than streamerfags with superiority complexes who believe they should never be killed ever except in direct face-to-face headclicking competitions
I hate playing trios but I also find playing solos kind of lonely too. I don't like that playing solo puts less players in your map. I thought it was the same amount of players as trios just no teams. Only reason I kind of hate trios is because it shifts the game to feeling like apex too much. When I play solo, you get the tension. In trios, I don't feel any tension just "Either I kill this guy or he kills me or his team kills me. go next."
>Crashed againFuck this shit. I hope bungie burns.I'm picking up reading as a hobby again, fuck videogames and this entire industry.
>>563005067This is why duos is the best queue honestly>Focused on one map a week so everyone was frequently getting games>Tension since it was easier to have your team wiped>Easier to coordinate and work together since you're 1-on-1 with someone in comms>Makes fighting big squads of UESC possible but doesn't trivialise it completely>No rooks coming in trying to meme shit up and steal keys and exfils>With purple backpacks your team will still usually have to leave a fair amount of loot behind so there's incentive to search everywhere still to find the best gear>Team comps with shell choices are more thoughtfulHonestly devastated they've taken it down for the rest of the season. I really do hope they bring it back since Marathon plays really well as duos compared to trios.
>>563005067>>563006731Playing with randoms but without mic. Does it work or is it as cancerous as it seems?
>>563004604hard to believe. i sit near the most common central european server which merges the entirety of europe. ur telling me it cant find enough europeans with like 30k players of which at least 10k are yuros
>>563006839It's pretty aids. The main problem is that everyone has different priorities and you don't get matched with people with the same gear loadout. 90% of your team mates will just be free kitters, and it makes doing anything way harder since freekits barely come with anything and they're often just gambling on getting lucky more so than actually winning or doing a contractI play solos instead. Solos is obviously not how the game is meant to be played, but it's leagues better than fill queue
>>563007392Been mostly solo as well. It's awful and the only sort of fun way to solo is Rook.I'm this close to actually going to their Discord and look for teams. But I fucking hate Discord, actually quit years ago and would prefer to not go back to that piece of shit chat.
>>563006883the game is basically dead during European hours. Only Americans are playing this shit, and even then, the playerbase is still in a very sharp decline, with no signs of stopping
I hope this works out because it was crazy to find out the HIGHEST LEVEL PLAYER in all of Marathon is cheating in Ranked.Level 351 and not banned...
>>563008085>JapaneseGeneral Patton was right again.
I'm a casual dad with over 15 hours in game and ya'll need to quit complaining. I'm Having a Blast queuing trio fill getting my booty smackerino'd. Anyway back to rook runs! See you guys on outpost FOR ARACHNEEE hahaha
>>563008663haha good one see you out there
Guys. Next week event will save the game and get billions into Marathon trust. I know I have been having a blast.
>>563009485I yearn for the say SAAS collapses entirely.
>>563009485what event
>>563009485>certified blast haverAI bot. Bad bot.
>>563004580To be fair it's the best one ever made. None of the others hold a candle to Marathon. But it's still wildly niche.
If the new experimental queue isn’t a pve only queue this game is dead for sure. 24k at primetime is yikes
>>563006319i also picked up reading after i got sick of bad video games and advertisements infesting everything else that isn't video games and... its kino...
Ez 25k
I think Bungie burnt too much good will with really stupid decisions during Destiny's latter lifecycle.
>>563014275that's because bungie started outsourcing their live service shit after the second to last expansionthe live service stuff started being handled by the same people who made concordthose same people are doing the live service for this game now too btw
>play solo>chill in command wing>get harrassed by thief drone>100ms later a subhuman console ass dog comes out of nowhere and locks onto me with a misriah, killing me in the most painfully "felt like 5 seconds" 700ms as I fumble to swap to my wstrsolos are so cancer, fuck these subhuman rats, none of them made a noise outside so I opened the pinwheel
>be bungle>purchased by sony for your 'live service expertise' for a cool 4billy alongside destiny's gleaming bright future (lol) and whatever is up your sleeve next (oh boy)>consult on concord>"oh yeah this is great ship this shit'>brought in to talk with naughty dog>"oh yeah no you better shitcan your last of us extraction gaem and focus on your bald girl title w/ porsche space ships and adidas kicks for real for real"i can't fathom a future in which sony doesn't gut this fucking shit from mouth to crotch in repudiation for having the living daylights scammed out of them so hard holy hell what a saga
Solo no fill is anti-fun.
>>562978368Shortsighted dumbass isn't going to have anyone to shoot at at this rate. >>563008085At the higher levels, you just play someone else to cheat on a different account, while yours stays clean.
>>562980110No. But it's an area that the pro journalists won't cover for fear of pissing off sony, so it's free real estate. None of the streamers can survive streaming Marathon. I mean if you look at the earnings of people who made concord conntent vs the why concord failed, it's like freekiters vs the biotoxic disenjector 9 man rape squad as far as revenue goes.
>25k peak
It genuinely seems to take 2 weeks to grind the rare lenses from quarantine for the agility upgrade
>the player counts continue to drop
>>562972028cringe
Looks like we’re stabilizing around a 25k core playerbase for this game. Which sounds good enough to me. It gets spikes around the weekends and Cryo, which also makes sense.Why is this a problem for the Destiny raped cucks?
i feel like sbmm would’ve solved all of this games problems if it was there from day1. now it might be too late because the playerbase is too small. why were they against it? ziegler?
I like crew fill because it lets me blame my teammates when I lose, thus preventing myself from being unmotivated by my own lack of skill after losing all my stuff.
Looks like we’re stabilizing around a 60k core playerbase for this game. Which sounds good enough to me. It gets spikes around the weekends and Cryo, which also makes sense.Why is this a problem for the Destiny raped cucks?
>>563016036They already wrote off like $300m in losses from Bungie in 2024 and took partial control. After this, I guess Bungie is just going to be one of the support studios for one of the actual successful live service games that Sony has, like Helldivers 2.
>new experimental queue is PvE >except the bots in this game are ass and they didn’t do anything to change it >pisses off what’s left of the fanbase >PvE folks never try it anyway >death spiral even fasterkino
Hey remember when I said you would see people easily eclipse level 300?
>>562933128>TFW you are so terrified of suiciding carebears you add free armory items, gacha gear and gacha salvage from factions and free loadouts on top to reduce player agency while papering over your shit economy and trust that wow quest grinds + epic cryo lottery will be successful instead of burning 300 million dollars to appease streamers who got bored in a month
Ziegler is responsible for the massive focus on competitive and streamers so im confused why he’s still at the helm
sub 20k peak next week.
>>563021491>so im confused why he’s still at the helmwould you replace the captain of the titanic after it crashed into the iceberg?
The funny thing is ranked is technically in "beta" for S1, whatever the fuck that even means. There's a chance they just don't include it in S2 if enough people bitch.
>friend rages that "omggg we get rekt by people with purple shields every game!!!'>in reality it's like 1 out of 15 games>he has 12 purple shields in his inventory>say "why not bring them in then, i'll bring mine too?">he says "nooo i don't want to lose them, im saving them"!idk man
>>563023039Well hes a retard. I save my gear like a scrooge when solo but when I queue with friends I will actually use it. No better time, did you try asking him what he’s waiting for ?
>>563023039he's saving them for next wipe
>>563022916Bungie isn’t stupid, they knew about the cheating before the normies started screeching about it. They rolled out rank ASAP to contain them
I have just discovered marathon takes no skill from controller players and they get free aimbot. No wonder I am getting beamed. Apparently it gives 95% accuracy for bullets on average. Dead game soon.
>>563023745>ranked is the containment zoneB-Bungie-sama.... I'm sorry for doubting you.
>>563022916Nah that's a placebo. It's something game devs do to let people cope about any potential issues that might come up. Beta can last for years if they want it to or they can remove the label if things are going well and call it a victory. It means nothing.
>>563023971Signal Jammer/Assassin cloak disables bullet magnetism and also apparently controller aim assist, though obviously it's not viable to have those up all the time.
>>563023039ahh, 99 potion syndrome. although i don't use them in solo, i do use them with friends, in ranked, and in cryo. tell him to stop being a bitch. he got them, he can get them again.
>>563023745That containment won't hold foreverThe cheaters will eventually wake up and break out of their containment and into the other gamemodesBasically, Bungie is fucked because they won't do shit about the cheatersThey let that shit fester in Destiny, and they'll let it fester here
haven’t played since knife nerf
>>563025474Good riddance honestly. I hope the game goes EOS within a year. Cunt ass devs ruined the game with the last update.
>25k peakSo now that its bleeding out whats bumgiez next move
>dire marsh>doing contracts with somebody, got 1 fill teammate>load in, dude immediately starts making destiny in-joke references>I respond in text chat making it clear I get the reference>he goes "huh? no destiny players?" and starts rambling about his appreciation for destiny "expats">2 teams come I'm last alive but escape and circle around for the rez>rando starts talking with his friend in a discord call while ALSO on open mic, says shit to his friend that sounds like he's talking to us, confusing AF>he's not responding to anything in text chat>he makes another remark to his friend about there being no destiny "expats" so I get on mic and tell him he's wrong, I have 3k+ hours in destiny and he'd know that if he was looking at text chat>he starts relaying all of this to his friend without muting his mic>have to repeat myself like 5 times when I try to tell him anything>asks me how many raids I've done to gauge if I'm a "true" destiny player>when I say "prolly over 200" he asks if I have discord and if I wanna play with him and his buddy>see a team stabilise anomalous energy but they don't see us>we follow them to algae ponds exfil and they run to maintenance>we set up on algae roof to snipe em at maintenance when they activate exfil>filltard keeps running around downstairs and drawing UESC aggro when we don't want the anom team to know we're here and I had already told him to stop>filltard keeps getting fucking downed by commanders somehow and has to be revived like 4 times in 7 minutes>see enemy moving towards the TAD next to the exfil at maintenance>perfect, I can snipe em when they activate it>filltard aggro'd by commanders AGAIN>enemy activates TAD and I try to snipe em but their teammates are watching us with snipers because they heard all the commotion>filltard gets downed by commander and immediately disconnects>he doesn't add me after the game (lol)I don't mind if my teammates are shit, but the destiny circlejerking is insane
>>563027843I thought the game had reached a stable 40k peak?That's what that gameradar or whoever the fuck's article from 3 days ago said
>>563027843night marshcarri eventseason 2like what else do you think
>>563028127>That's what that gameradar or whoever the fuck's article from 3 days ago saidthe retards here were saying stable 60k despite the game being a week old. kek.
Oh yeah, knife nerf feels awful, literally nothing you can do against purple shields with shotguns. Lunge range and angle nerf were fine, damage nerf needs to be reverted asap. SO many CQC fights Im losing because now its one more slice when they would've died previously.
>>563028192>80k everydaykek that was true for like a day or two at launch. the numbers have fallen ever since
>>563028204Are you building into knife? Running Destroyer with Knife Fight?
>>563028127They lied
>>563025536Its now skill based instead of ez mode. I've been blindly ran at by knife tweakers zero times since patch.
This is like a crypto dump lol
>>563028334>skillDestroyer is the melee unit and it takes no skill to gap close with him. Everyone but him loses
>>563028514>the aggro melee unit can aggro meleeI see no issue here.
>>563027986Destiny players are sub 80iq every time
>>563028680Issue is Destoyer was already top tier, now everyone else gets worse while he remains the same, arguably better. Now people will be asking for another shotgun nerf and a destroyer nerf
>>563028310Yes? Whats your point? It’s still worse than before, even if you run those autistic melee cores like the crouching tiger mod or the assassin core, both of which are dogshit anyways.
>>563029095I disagree with the knife nerf, it was fine. I'm also okay with Destroyer being able to maintain the old ways. It's weird, for sure. But, as any class, you can still strip shields or more, then rush in for a quick knife kill.
I actually love this game why is it dying
>>563029095The nerfs never end. It’s just burger flipping Reddit normie faggots that have 0 capability of self reflection. They are shit at the game but also have to wage slave and support their family so they spend more time posting on Reddit than actually playing the game. The retarded level 20 casuals begging for knife nerfs that ended up only benefiting the 1% of players with purple shield trades unlocked. Now when they get raped after an 8 hour shift at McDonald’s they are gonna complain about WSTR, assassin, destroyer, thermals
>>563029431I don't understand it either. It's the best made extraction shooter on the market, it has a really solid style and narrative, the shooting feels good ESPECIALLY at low levels... I don't get why so many people bounced off of it. Like those low level lobbies in the beginning were tons of fun, and people bounced off of it THEN.
>>563029265Max damage for a heavy attack is like 96 damage now. Runner HP IS 120, so you aren’t ever gonna 1 tap someone without without taking about about 25% of their health first (not including shields). Whereas before the nerf with 90 melee stat and above you did 120hp with a heavy knife attack, so you could reliably rush with a knife after seeing the broken shield icon. Now that knife strategy is completely dead and it was already hard countered by running into a WSTR. Even if you maximize your knife damage now you are less effective than before. Yet somehow people interpret these changes as knives being unaffected by the nerfs if you specifically build for it >>563028310 like this retard that thinks you should actually run knife fight and not any other implant instead
>>563029860I agree, I’ve uninstalled because bungie already ruined the game with incompetent balance updates before season 1 even ended. RIP the game, there’s just too many reasons for people to quit. Cheaters, dogshit solo/fill experience, slow faction progression, the crowd they chose to appeal to doesn’t like hardcore extraction shooters. Bungie went from making destiny, the most normie possible nothingburger game in existence, to trying to copy EFT which is the most autistic sweaty FPS on the market. Of course the game died in hindsight, but it was fun for the 100 hours I got out of it
Day 3 of trying Co-Evolution 2 at least once a day, as per usual spawn nowhere near Bio-Research, have to kill 2 people just to get to the point where I can inject the simbiont, and then despite making noise and running around I cannot find a single soul. Even lowered myself to camping a fucking exfil and still nothing.Activated the exfil I was camping in the last 15 seconds, find out that there were two friendly assassins that took the final exfil together. Really wish I didn't have to mindlessly gamble just to progress. There's basically no skill involved in this at all until you get the absurd luck to even get to the starting line, where it's a disadvantageous fight because it also fucks up your hearing.
>>563030148bub you gotta group up. There's so much PvP on dire marsh in trios.
>>563030232I guess trios is the only reasonable way to do this, since rooks might spawn in. Both times I've reached the simbiont in trios we've just wiped the lobby/watched anyone not dead exfil before even getting there and didn't find any rooks. Shame that fill is fuckin stupid ape country and my friends rightfully hate dire marsh.
