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No Such Thing As Automaton Civilians Edition
>Previous
>>562915879

>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?
HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 crossplay, co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC, PS5 and XBox Series X/S where players fight against hordes of alien insects, robots and squids to Spread Democracy™. Players wage war on contested planets, each with a different biome, completing as many objectives as possible in a procedurally generated level while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful missions, a planet can be defended or liberated, and the player base must combine their efforts as much as possible to Liberate™ the galaxy.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/
https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/helldivers-2/9mx9wn9dfpgt

>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?
Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is a shared screen top-down shooter in the same setting. Its mechanics were based primarily on Arrowhead's first game, Magicka.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/


>LOBBY HOSTING
https://files.catbox.moe/83ixkr.png
>MODDING
https://files.catbox.moe/c81ogo.png

>INFORMATION RESOURCES
https://helldivers.wiki.gg/
https://helldiverscompanion.com/
https://democracy-hub.net
https://helldive.live

>MAJOR NEWS
Feb 10 Machinery of Oppression https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj5JS68ny14
Mar 17 Entrenched Division https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3zP5GWoQi0
Mar 17 Roadmap https://twitter.com/helldivers2/status/2033907671036743796
Mar 20 Uncover the Truth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn_uyAaJ3Z0

>LATEST PATCHES
Mar 17 1.006.100 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/541133047968301984
Mar 25 1.006.101 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/507356684541232939
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First for lobby doko
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>>563011301
Is dust devils a good second warbond? I only got democratic demolition
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First for lobby dozo
>Bots
Bots


>steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241339309292/76561197986229160
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241339309292/76561197986229160
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>>563012156
I would save it for later and get something you think looks cool instead
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>>563012156
gets you the best AR and one of the best primaries in the game with the coyote
speargun will be a nice way for you to apply gas as you're lacking chemical agents
napalm EAT is a fun expendable and goes well with regular EATs
solo silo is a great fuck-that-thing-in-particular strat and very useful against the vox engine boogeyman, together with EAT, NEAT, and commando you can run a good full disposable loadout
armour is whatever
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>>563012156
Not really. If you're an absolute newbie, you may instead want Masters of Ceremony for the Sample Scanner booster.

I'm kidding, of course. Get Control Group or Steeled Veterans instead.
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>>563012253
FVLL
>FVLL
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>>563012357
I’m meta fagging because I want to play higher difficulties without jobbing
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>pubbies on bugs
>sometimes pulling teeth othertimes not to big of a deal

>pubbies on squids
>usually fine but you need to be on top of drones

>pubbies on bots
>actual agony where people constantly rage quit and eat reinforcements
Why is this?
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>>563012604
because bugs are the tutorial easy mode faction :)
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>>563011057
Not just arrowhead. Fatshark is the same way. When Darktide launched the stat bars on weapons didnt have a number. Just a vague bar.
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sex with the bots
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>>563012513
Well I bought it and just gotta grind enough medals to get the grenade pistol
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>I'll just wear the new heavy armor with 180 rating how bad could incel corps be
>Got 1 tapped by a heavy dev
Oh so that's what you guys meant
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So people keep yelling that the epoch is bad because of reasons. What am I supposed to take for my anti tank then?
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>>563014145
ignore them and take the epoch anyways
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>>563014008
That thing is unironically the deadliest enemy in the game. Worse than Harvester instant-kill beams, because at least you can see/hear the Harvester coming and there's a very high chance that the initial beam won't be right on top of you so you can actively dodge it.

The fire shotgun Heavy Dev just has a flat percentage chance of instantly deleting you regardless of your armor rating, and this applies to every single one of the dozens you encounter in a single mission. You could be hiding behind cover, step out for half a second to engage it, and just instantly die because the dice roll wasn't in your favor.

>>563014145
The Epoch does struggle against certain heavies, but it is not a bad AT weapon at all.
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Rub my belly
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>>563012604
Because bots have the most amount of knowledge and warbond checks that filter idiots and bondlets in the game.
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>Bugs become ten times more interesting when there is no nigger with a na*alm ba*rage
Does this mean that it needs to be removed from the game? I think the answer is obvious.
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>Troonpoch
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>>563014562
So what do you use then?
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>>563014557
>"Bugs can be hard countered with a single stratagem. Are bugs easy? No. Its napalm barrage thats wrong."
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>>563014646
recoilless crutch rifle if I had to hazard a guess
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>>563014686
The problem is that it hard counters helldivers.
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>>563014646
>>563014721
Anything is better than the Taiwanese pretty boy tranny weapon.
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>>563014826
Have you tried not walking into fire?
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>>563014721
>EAT
>Leveller
>Hellbomb backpack
>Orbital smoke
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Please buff the fucking M90 oh my god. If you arent gonna give it medium pen then at least giga buff its durable damage.
You know how fucking aggravating it is to shoot the [UNARMORED] part of a hive guard, with EIGHT GAUGE.

M A G N U M

BUCKSHOT.

And it *doesn't* die. Like what the fuck!? And if I don't shoot a hunter directly in the face, with 8. Gauge. Magnum. It wont die, if fact, it only staggers it a bit. What horseshit is this?! Not even gonna mention is comical damage fall off. Oh sure yeah it can stagger but so can the punisher. In fact, as it stands now, I'd even say the punisher is better than the M90. The Sweeper is better than the M90. The Double freedom is better than the M90. And the fucking, HALT, is better than the M90.

Helldivers 2.
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>>563014721
But my backpack.
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>>563014145
RR
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>>563015261
They're not going to buff your larp gun, gaylo anon.
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>>563013154
I'm fully aware since I'm one of the retards that plays both darktide and this game and has since launch for both. Can't believe there's a studio that outsweded fatshark honestly, it's insane.
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>>563014557
I think they should have experimented more with enemies that have significant elemental resistances
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>>563015261
They won't because AH is extremely autistic about being ""accurate"" The AR/Shotgun in ODST is dogshit. If it was the CE shotgun sure but it isn't, so AH won't make it good
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>>563015549
Its so obvious how they care more about glazing how "hardcore" the helldivers universe is by making the shotgun shit. Any real fan wouldve made the M90 a rape machine.
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>>563014686
I can't disagree with you about some of it. The bug bridge shouldn't be at one fucking point, which can be closed by throwing 6 red stratagems there, instead there should be several spawn points around you. It's just a disgusting game design, I hate fucking swedes.
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563015261
Not going to read this obvious R*ddit post.
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people here keep trying to convince me their opinions on weapons and balance matter more than mine. news flash, buddy, they don't.
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>>563014963
Bold of you to assume it's being thrown 60m away from where any helldiver is standing or going towards.
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>>563015549
>AH is extremely autistic about being ""accurate""
Except they only selectively care about accuracy just like they selectively care about realism. For example if they made the wasp "accurate" to how it actually was in killzone it'd be a rape machine and one of the most picked stratagems in the whole game.
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>>563015989
Agreed that multiple smaller breaches opening up over a wider area when one is called in would be better than just all in one spot.
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>>563016210
SO TELL ME WHAT WEAPONS YOU USE YOU FUCKING RESTART
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>>563013584
>
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I yearn for big stupid gun attachments
Every gun editor game I like to give them stupid add ons
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jin-roh heavy armor when
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All I want is a suppressor for my guns
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>>563017307
Good news! There are two warbonds precisely for that!
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>>563014686
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>>563012592
get siege breakers
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>>563012592
you don't need metafag shit to not job in higher difficulties
the best stratagems are mostly if not all free
>strafing run
goated
>RR/eats
goated
>mg sentry/mg emplacement/orbital 120/gatling barrage/etc.
goated
>liberator/diligence
goated

you're gonna be using warbond grenades and warbond secondaries for the most part
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>>563015290
eat or quacksar then
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>>563014145
eats and 'mando
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>>563014008
backpack bubble shield/riot shield is not a bad idea for incen corps
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>RR
>cummando
>500 kg bomb
>380
>Gas grenades
>Thermite
>Siege ready
>(You(
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>>563015549
>The AR/Shotgun in ODST is dogshit
but they aren't
well, maybe the AR is lacking, but the shotgun still rapes point blank, which the m90 does not
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I already got the sweeper, incendiary breaker and double freedom at 25. What's another shotgun that feels satisfying to use?
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>>563018869
>>cummando
Piece of shit
>Gas grenades
Literally the only good thing in warbond.
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>>563016210
I need both of these women because they both dwarf me
>>563016804
This smelly roboneed too
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>>563018952
M90 :)
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>>563019045
roboneet...
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I think the amr+supply pack can counter every single enemy in the game (no hive lords dont count).
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>>563018952
if you found the incendiary breaker of all things satisfying, you'll find literally every other shotgun satisfying
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>>563018952
>incendiary breaker
based based based
maybe punisher plasma?
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>>563014686
>rape victim pretending that a single stratagem doesn't counter bot drops
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>>563018952
spray and pray
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>>563019619
heavy devastators are unaffected because their shields block all damage, even explosions that are as strong as a frag grenade, like those shells
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>>563020525
lel
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>>563020416
rupture strain overseers?
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>>563020416
>the staff swing only did 20% of your health
>the rest was done by your collision with the wall behind you
Heh.
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>>563020416
Nice squid nipples
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>>563020525
>rape victim doesn't know how the game works
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What's with the pick rate for the lib pen? Isn't it just a worse liberator and a worse adjudicator rolled into one?
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>>563021220
>paying attention to pick rates
People just use the weapons they like, and Lib Pen is not a bad weapon at all.
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>>563021220
baby recoil and med pen. most divers cant aim
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>next warbond is vehicle based armors
Call this months update:
1. They release the full suite of upgrading vehicles and customization or
2. APC only
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>>563021220
>pick rate
Jesus christ kill yourself
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>>563020525
>heavy devastators are unaffected because their shields block all damage, even explosions
anon.....
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>>563021414
>it's a gas mech
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>>563021220
Feels good to use
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>>563021627
>gas on one arm
>missiles on the other
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>>563021414
They could make the APC top tier with the addition of a single feature.
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>>563021564
is there some different wording I should have used to avoid triggering you? I will try to be accommodating to your sensitivities
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>dumb nigger still peddling false information
Remember when he got BTFO yesterday by saying the ABRL can't kill shield devastators because their shield would block all the damage?
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>>563021678
>Being such a sheeple that you base your opinions on weapons off pick rates
Im afraid nothing you do will ever fix how fucking retarded you are.
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>>563021220
>Isn't it just a worse liberator
Medium pen is useful. Light pen isn't that universal. And the Adj is an ugly fish that bucks.
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>>563020940
I wish they didn't glow, but the mod that removed them hasn't been updated in a while so I'm stuck with the blueberry pepperoni
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>>563021741
>base your opinions on weapons
except I was literally asking why the pick rate didn't jive with my opinion on the weapon? Reading is hard but there are resources to help you learn anon
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>>563021875
>didn't jive with my opinion on the weapon
Because you're a retard incapable of comparing basic numbers.
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>>563021591
issa joek, you had to be there anon
there was some shitter here the other day insisting heavy devs couldn't be killed by the airburst rocket launcher because their shields were invincible
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>>563021875
You're attempting to suggest that the number of people who pick something has any correlation at all to anything, it doesn't. That's why you're retarded.
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>>563018869
>>563018524
The commando never feels like it has enough ammo for when I have to fight off 10 factory striders/bile titans at once.
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>>563021671
>add different apc player controlled turret strategems
>autocannon
>gatling
>dual commando
and for absolute kino
>open top, 1 front facing, 2 side facing mmgs
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>>563021818
it's a nostalgic kind of ugly desu

>>563022071
shit you're right anon all human behavior is random and inexplicable, my bad
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>>563022079
nothing has enough ammo to kill those all at once if you let it get that bad, except maybe a perfect hellbomb
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gas emplacement soon
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>>563022239
A gas chamber if you will
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>>563017813
Well I bought dust devils and democratic demolition and have 900 something super shekels so I can buy a third premium
Wasn’t some guy doxxed by redditors for complaining about the meta?
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>>563022239
does it come with a rollcoaster that scoops up enemies and dumps them into a wooden box that turns them into lamps?
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>>563022210
>shit you're right anon all human behavior is random and inexplicable
Literally true for video games the fact you think otherwise just confirms you're retarded.
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>>563014557
>>563014686
>game about counterpicking
>pick the counter
>You: REEEE
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>get under a vox engine
>pop its vents to open the lower hatch
>the vox engine turret clips into itself and points down tracking me perfectly
>this blocks the lower hatch and I cannot get a grenade in
>I cannot get behind the turret to pop the vents on it as it constantly tracks me
>the vox engine suddenly shoots through itself killing me as I was under it in its supposed blind spot

I can't believe the swedes released voxes like this and have not fixed it since. Its been fucking MONTHS! This is the swedish intended method to attack vox engines, too! It's the chud playerbase that optimized to use solo silos and levelers to instantly kill or nearly kill vox engines at range. Oh, but when you can zombie yourself in a mech or warp pack out of the dropship those fun things get patches immediately but something that fucks us gets stay forever.

The swedes are truly vile creatures.
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>>563022349
the guy was doxxed by redditors for daring the devs to complete a d10 operation with purposefully shitty loadouts that all utilized underpowered or straight up bugged items

he attached a $1000 donation to a charity of the dev's choice if they beat the challenge (he regularly did $1k donations regardless) but reddit took this as "holding the devs hostage" and "hiding behind a charity" or some pearl clutching nonsense that wasn't even true, and reddit being reddit, said "leave my billion dollar company alone!"
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>>563021220
Medium pen means you don't have to aim that precisely to kill things as you can power damage though any body part on enemies up to heavies. It's the literal rooty tooty point and shooty weapon.
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>>563022445
if you're not soloing everything with the break action shotgun and smoke grenades then you're a piece of shit faggot and I hate you
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>>563022445
can I pick robbut
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>>563021852
And twin calls ME a gooner.
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>>563022445
there are other counters that arent griefing u bratty sexbot
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>>563017813
Always found it funny how the starter loadout has an answer to everything
Almost like the devs that made the game are a completely separate team with an actual vision and IQs above "spatula"
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>>563022598
It was two people. Person 1 was the guy who was doxxed. He asked the devs to just do a d10 oshaune operation. If the devs won they would choose the charity and if they lost he would choose.

Person 2 was a second reddit nigger who added on the cursed loadouts as a $1000 kicker. Redditors, and you, combined them to one person.
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>>563022939
Idk about that. They immediately decided that moving on to their next project without guiding their b-team was a solid move.
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>>563022864
>griefing
oh
you're one of THOSE
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>>563021220
low recoil, medium pen and drum mag
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>>563022939
>Almost like the devs that made the game are a completely separate team with an actual vision
No shit? Arrowhead isn't hiding anything. The main team that made HD2 is now working on other games including an Unreal project which I think they alluded to is similar to Helldivers.

HD2 is now updated by a third party which does the warbonds, major updates by a different team and rarely the main team comes in to take control (i.e. the giant rebalance shitshow).
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I don't think the War Striders are a good addition to the bot front and only serve to be extremely annoying and a plain filter to most support weapons in the game. Even weapons that can pen and kill them like the AMR/HMG feel like shit against them.
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>>563022445
>>563023202
Heartbreaking
The ai slop posting lolicon gooner just made a really good point
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>>563023387
true
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>>563023387
>anti-medium weapons with limited anti-heavy capability aren't efficient at taking out a heavy enemy with more health than the fucking tank enemy
very fascinating
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>>563023387
>Be fighting bots
>Will need heavy pen
>Tank spawns
>WHOA BOT TANK PEW PEW COOL
>Strider spawns
>NO NO NOOOO THIS MAKES NO SENSE WTF!?
You people are so funny lol
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>>563023387
Heavy pen support weapons need to be looked at
Their damage is so dogshit it boggles the mind
they serve like ZERO purpose outside of extreme niche cases like hulk surge
ALSO WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO SURGES THEY WERE REALLY FUN FUCK
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>>563022968
forgive me for not knowing the intricacies of every bit of reddit drama, i bow to you redditor-sama
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>>563023726
What exactly is your complaint? Because a single EAT will destroy a Walker. Where is the problem here?
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>>563023202
yes I am a bratty sexbot correctoror
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>>563023628
hulks and tanks have weakpoints you can exploit with lower pen weapons, war striders do not
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>>563023829
you sound so annoying bro
i don't know what to tell you
it's a pretty clear point
Faggot.
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>>563022837
I goonify the enemies and not my allies, so really, who's the REAL gooner
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>>563023982
Ahh, a shitposting jeet. (You) got me well done.
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>>563023965
No one, not one soul, cares about those weakpoints because it is simply a thousand times easier to hit them with heavy pen.
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helldivers, how do i overcome ragebait
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>>563024019
whatever you gotta tell yourself pal
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>>563023594
>you need a full on AT weapon to deal with the AP4 war striders that are spammed everywhere in numbers far higher than tanks
Kill yourself. These niggers are basically Hulk variants in everything but their bloated health pool of the WS and lack of a real frontal weakpoint.
inb4 muh 80% durable hip joint
>>563023829
Ok, cool. Do you have another 6 EATs to clear the rest?
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What's wrong with the war strider? I have a feeling that people who flatly refuse to use anti-tank weapons are complaining about this enemy. I don't play much against bots, but I don't remember a single time when this enemy caused difficulties. It may be a random laser shot, but random deaths on bots happen regularly.
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>>563024278
>Do you have another 6 EATs to clear the rest?
Why would I need to clear six of them? Firstly six never spawn on top of each other and secondly I have a team with other tools. Sounds like you don't play the game.

>>563024283
99% of their complains are solved by them just lowering the difficulty but because they're retarded and insecure they can't admit they're not made for D10.
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>>563022598
>>563022968
>redditor that can't clear D10 Oshaune makes a post to harrass the devs about "game balance"
>tries to hide behind "IT'S FOR CHARITY BRO"
>gets doxxed by nerfgods instead
>bends the knee instantly but still gets fired from both of his jobs lmao
>gets BTFOed so hard that it kills any future "challenges" effectively achieving the opposite goal of his spergout
Biggest KWAB moment I've seen in any game ever.
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>>563024094
literally everyone cared about those weakpoints when the warstriders were added, for months. it's all anyone would talk about when talking about warstriders. everyone just gave up talking about them when it became abundantly clear that AH had completely given up on the bot's design philosophy. you'd have to be some sort of newfag or troll to not know this
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>>563023387
War Striders as a unit are perfectly fine, the real problem is that they spawn in unreasonably large numbers. If you saw one War Strider for every 2 or 3 Hulks/Tanks then nobody would complain, but instead they spawn at basically a 1:1 ratio with Hulks.

It would be like if Factory Striders spawned at the same rate as Hulks, as opposed to only two or three ever appearing at the same time outside of convoys.
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goochy hours
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>>563024490
>literally everyone cared
No just people who shouldn't be in D10 like you. Lower the difficulty.
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>>563024408
>>563024407
moortuguese shitskin posts
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>had a good /hdg/ lobby
>sent a friend request to the boys
>left on read
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>>563024014
I better be cute when I'm in your lobbies cuh
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>>563024604
concession accepted ms slippers
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war strider is a gear check enemy, plain and simple, they're wrapped in AP4 armor and they only exist to force meta builds which Arrowhead explicitly stated they don't want meta in the game, literally just give them a medium pen weakspot on their ass or legs and no one would complain.
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>>563024612
i might have been one of them
i forgot to accept it but it doesnt really matter just hop in the lobbies when posted, we're all gonna meet again
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>>563024679
you're not, he has pedestrian taste
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>>563024604
Meds. Now.
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>>563024612
Add me as a friend
5449-9531
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>>563024014
How's that any different.
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>>563024830
I don't know you, you could be a shitter
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>>563024283
Everything Bots have can be countered by medium pen except War Strider. Technically the complainers are correct because its supposed to be
>Squids: Light
>Bots: Medium
>Bugs: Heavy
But the reality is that this would be way too stale. If Squids can't have heavy pen enemies then you never need anything but a Stalwart. If bots never need any heavy pen then you never need anything but AMR/Railgun. Which means even if they add 1000 new enemies to all factions; your build is identical. Its fun to have variety of enemies and they're wrong to hate on Striders especially since they're the most piss weak inaccurate enemies ever. Genuinely I suspect these people just suck both in-game and mentally.
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>>563024725
>Arrowhead explicitly stated they don't want meta in the game

As mentioned, warstriders violate this, but vox engines do too as no one wants to fight them without a solo silo and/or a leveler ever.
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>>563024278
once again the solofag reveals himself getting filtered by the mere existence of war striders
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>>563024707
>>563024778
Lower the difficulty samefag pass buyer.
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>>563024914
Skill issue.
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>>563024612
Damn guess you're just going to have to host more lobbies in hopes you get them again.
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i thought you guys were joking about him shitposting every time he wakes up and goes to sleep but he's really actually doing it
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>>563024956
Meds. Now.
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>>563024725
>and no one would complain.
you have far too much faith in the population of this general
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UH OH BUFFTROONY MELTY
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>>563015989
This girl is weak to anal
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>>563025037
It's morning in India so he's just getting started for the day.
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>bugnigger gets made fun of in a lobby
>never EVER forgets it
you will forever be a joke in this general and unless you make a new steam account it will never be forgotten
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>>563024283
>no war striders
HMG works great for both medium and chaff clear as well as killing tanks and even factory striders by getting behind/under them and shooting weak points, laser cannon even works in a pinch
>war striders
HMG and laser cannon completely cucked by AP4 and 70+% durable over the entire body except for the tiny eye weakpoints that no one can ever actually hit
and that's not even mentioning the annoying fucking ragdoll cannons and the grenade spam. My god, the grenade spam. Every other enemy in the faction has good weakpoint design, even the fucking vox engines, but war striders just cuck a ton of weapons that would otherwise be viable
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it's just the undeniable truth: if you don't like how much of an enemy spawns on the highest difficulty and want their numbers reduced to what you would find on a lower difficulty you are just a fragile ego shitter who wants to say you play on the highest difficulty without actually having to deal with that difficulty
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>>563025314
Who are you arguing with? Are you ok?
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the resident shitskin pedophile are chimping out again?
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>>563024749
I'll turn you into a pedestrian alright
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bring back cape spinning
bring back melee dodge
bring back REP-80
bring back APC
bring back HAV
bring back Hammer
bring back Distractor Beacon
bring back Shredder missiles
bring back Railgun's stun effect
bring back Rumbler
bring back minesweeper missions
bring back Paragon
bring back Ninja
bring back proving grounds
bring back loadout presets/randomizer
bring back TOX-13 Avenger
bring back Siege Mech
bring back Great Eye
bring back barrage homing rounds
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UH OH HE'S MELTY ULTING
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>Join some dudes on fucked Marfark going full stealth with censor, smokes, OPS, etc
>follow their idea, runs become extremely smooth with easy objective clears
>every rando that joined as our 4th not clued in to the gig got fucking mobbed by the entire map and constantly died
Aside from one time where enemies refused to lose aggro no matter how many times I broke LoS and kept spawning douchebags to rush me down this shit felt broken. Is this the real counter bot play?
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>>563025419
the african poortuguese mutt is having another meltdown. He just woke up and is getting ready to toil in the fields.
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>>563025060
Lower the difficulty.
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hello?
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>>563025302
>>563024902
So the reason is that the niggers refuse to lower the difficulty?I generally think that bots need to add more armored enemies. It surprises me how rare an enemy a fucking tank is. It should be like charger, every 100m.
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>>563024679
sure, if you wear certain armor sets
To that one anon who wanted the creature in game, she's in
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>>563025530
>Is this the real counter bot play?
Ignoring enemies is always the most meta way to play. Its not exactly fun, but stealth armor and just running past everything is a hell of a lot faster than fighting. There are also a bunch of really stupid mechanics that make this easily abusable including the fact that only X number of enemies can spawn and there are no 'solo hunter' units so everyone fucking off in different directions is objectively better than grouping up. Additionally not looking at enemies lowers their accuracy substantially so ignoring them and running is better than standing and fighting. But what sort of fag would want every match to be like this.
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>>563025449
do not make reference to urobutcher slop in my presence ever again
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>>563025448
>pedophile are chimping out again
Good English, Sar.
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>>563025302
>HMG works great for both medium and chaff clear as well as killing tanks
>HMG and laser cannon completely cucked by AP4 and 70+% durable over the entire [war strider] body except for the tiny eye weakpoints that no one can ever actually hit
tank heatsink: 750 HP, AV3, 100% durable
war strider hatsink: 700 HP, AV4, 70% durable
HMG damage vs tank heatsink: 35 per shot
HMG damage vs war strider heatsink: 44 per shot

..huh, that's weird
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>>563025706
Yeah, I can see it getting boring pretty quick since this is primarily a horde shooter game but I was surprised at how cheesy it was. 0 deaths across board except for the 4th rando on incel corps + borgs is crazy to me
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>>563025839
why are posting your clock?
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>>563025840
if you actually played the game you may have noticed that war striders can turn around a lot faster than tanks or factory striders and there's no way to immobilize them like you can by shooting the treads on the tank. Because they're badly designed.
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>>563025563
Meds. Now.
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>>563025530
It's all fun and games until you have to fight a Vox Engine or Gunship, which outright ignore stealth. But other than that, yeah, Stealth is absurdly good since the bots being the ranged faction already gives you a bit of extra distance when you start running away, often you don't even need to break direct line of sight, just get far enough away out of their detection range and then get away from the "last sighted here" location.
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>>563025673
YESSSSSS its time
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>>563025840
>pretending that the war strider's heatsink is a consistently viable target
>comparing them to tanks despite there being four war striders for every would-be tank spawn
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>>563026081
>It's all fun and games until you have to fight a Vox Engine or Gunship, which outright ignore stealth.
They do not. They hear further than other bots but you can entirely counter this by crouching or laying down.
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>>563026059
>and there's no way to immobilize them
and yet they can be stunned, which immobilizes them
if you actually played the game you may have known that
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>>563025953
>clock
Not beating the Indian allegations, my boy.
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>>563026172
lol ok
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Some of y'all niggas is gay
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>>563026231
getting desperate huh?
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>>563026109
the fact that you can just walk up to a tank and crawl all over it to get to the heatsink is just proof the tank is a shitty pathetic joke enemy that needs to be massively buffed and made more threatening
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I'm addicted to 1 shotting war striders with the railgun
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>>563026449
It feels very good to pop the microscopic weakpoints on those things with a high charge shot.
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>>563026449
I love EATing their dicks and watching the whole top pop upwards.
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>>563026321
>desperate
Projection from the loony troony gang.
El Clasico
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>>563024014
You know I swore off that path. I'm basically a saint now, niqqa. Have one of your blue archive t-dolls or whatever they are.
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>>563024902
it's not stale, it's having cohesive faction identity
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YWNBAM
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>>563026449
Oh yeah now do that to a Vox tough guy
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Strafing run is the only s-tier stratagem. There's not a single matchup it struggles against.
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>>563026701
>abs
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>>563026939
>hit it with a Leveller or Solo Silo
>now it's at 10% of it's total HP
>send 1 overcharged Railgun shot to one of their tracks
>wins
WAOW
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>>563024612
I never accept friend requests
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>>563027104
>The pause in the middle to investigate a bird or mailman
KINO
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>>563027117
>>hit it with a Leveller or Solo Silo
That's cheating
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>>563027104
what the dog doing
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>>563027104
Resident Evil looking mofo
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If you can't solo a D10 borg bot drop with only a breaching hammer you need to lower the difficulty
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what if we got rid of the current boring eagle storm, and every time you called in an eagle you got an eagle squadron instead?
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I've narrowed it down to control group or freedom's flame - which one and why?
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>>563028198
>doesn't hit the lane you threw it at
downgrade t b h f a m
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>>563028239
control group for warp pack
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>>563028239
Warp Pack and Epoch provide too unique gameplay to give it up.
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>>563028239
Cuckdom's flame doesn't even have the best fire items
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>>563028530
But is coffe good for you though?
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>>563028254
alright big guy can you handle this?
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>>563028198
only if the orbital bombardment one doubled the fire rate and number of shells of every bombardment.
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these swedes could learn from edf's air raider
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>>563028865
JUST MAKE THE LINES GO FORWARD AND BE PARALLEL, LINE MAKER.
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>>563025150
She's made for vanilla sex with bites.
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>>563028239
Control Group, and it isn't even close.
>Adreno-Defibrillator is mostly a meme, but it does offer extra stim duration and Arc resist
>Variable is a fun if meme-ish primary, but not outright bad
>Epoch is a very strong AT weapon, ignore the haters they don't know what they're talking about
>Laser Sentry is meh, but it gets the job done
>Warp Pack competes for best in slot
>Arc Grenade is the only other generally worthless item from the warbond

Freedom's Flame is very much meh in most ways that count.
>Inflammable perk is good but not locked to the warbond, you can get it in the Superstore instead
>Cookout is pretty good, but the nerf to status buildup means that most of the time it's just a weaker Punisher
>Torcher is a bit stronger now but it's still one of the shortest-ranged primaries in the game, you literally have to build the rest of your loadout around it
>Firebomb Hellpods literally has negative value
>Crisper is okay, but a highly situational secondary
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>>563028198
>>563028254
>>563028865
>>563029131
Y'all are wrong.

THIS is the best way to do Eagle Storm.
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Helldivers would be nothing without me
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>>563029887
based co-1 permit approver
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>>563029918
>co-1
bot infilTRAITOR fucking SPOTTED
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>>563020416
link for squid goon mod?
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>>563029131
alright fuckboi let's see how you like this
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>>563024612
>tfw been playing with /hdg/ for 2 months now
>still don't have a single one added to friends
Like >>563024747 said, who cares lol if you join lobbies you will meet them again anyway.
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Which faction owes us sex the most?
Bugs, bots or squids?
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>>563029131
okay I think I got it
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>>563019619
>Bringing bots up out of nowhere
>Calling others raped
ironic
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>>563030740
Super Earth
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LOBBY DOKO
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>>563024408
>Bugdiving Swedish Cum Toilet celebrating that the game will never get better
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>563031026
>out of nowhere
Shit bait, rape victim.
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>>563029131
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>>563031217
Nobody mentioned bots anywhere until you did.
Unironic rape victim behavior
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no patch, no warbond, no update, no content
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>>563031078
WORKING DOKKO :(
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>>563031723
LOBBY! WHERE LOBBY DOKO?!
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>>563031762
I AM SORRY MY DISCORD KITTEN (male) NEEDS ATTENTION WE GOTTA ERP IMMEDIATELLY :(
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>>563031038
rape all Truth Enforcers
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>>563031712
and worse - no lobby
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I only play pubs
Can't rape what you cant dox
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>>563032330
I'd rather be raped desu
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>>563032386
the raped
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>>563030430
m-masaka!
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>Truth Enforcer LARP with Inspector armor
yeah no pls stay in pubs and don't join my lobbies
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>>563031216
The reddit loony didn't want to make the game better though, he just wanted to make it easier.
Notice how he only mentions "game balance" and none of the actual problems like broken geometry, broken dead heavy hitboxes, enemies phasing through terrain and objectives occasionally breaking.
Not to mention that the whole "devs playing d10" already happened a year ago when buffniggers were crying about about squid repel invasion missions. Buffniggers completely memory holed it, of course.
So yeah, I will celebrate when shit stained buffnigger crybabies that actively try to ruin the game get utterly blown the fuck out. Cry me a river, bitch.
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>>563032675
>The reddit loony didn't want to make the game better though, he just wanted to make it easier.
Your IQ is so low you don't know the different in improvement and making the game easier.
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How important is ergo and recoil to you guys? 35 ergo is good enough for me and I feel like it's easy enough to track most enemies except really fast niggas like predditor bugs or cyborgs. Like with the Coyote, 38 ergo in exchange for baby recoil most of the time feels pretty good. But then with other guns like the HMG or Adjudicator, maxxing for low recoil feels pointless because the ergonomics end up being so dogshit that you pretty much need to use PP. I'm thinking of just using angled grip since that only increases vertical recoil and learning to control that but even recoil past 24 feels too much for me sometimes. Just looking to hear some other anon's opionions.
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>nerfnigger unironically defending doxxing for daring the devs to play their own fucking game
we're reaching lows previously thought impossible to reach
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Which way, diver?
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>>563032838
we are on /hdg/ after all.
these niggas here would install loli mods for the game in an instant if they existed.
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The studios they outsource to need to make things FASTER >:(
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>>563032793
By now I think my fingers have mastered recoil control in vidya
I prefer high ergo because I think snapping left n right to the enemy is more important
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>>563032950
The next bond is already feature complete in the files. But Alexus says having content is apple-flavored bacon.
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>>563032793
I don't even notice low ergo. It's just something you learn to compensate for
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I'm trying to understand this game.

According to the durable damage formula a theoretical fully charge unsafe shot from a rail gun to a bile titans head should do 609 damage. Meaning it would always take minimum 3 shots to kill. But I've seen some videos within the last year where it's doing it in two.

Does durability go down as it takes damage or something?
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>>563032738
>>563032838
>Conveniently ignores the rest of my post
I accept your concession, buffnigger crybaby.
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>>563033230
Just use the Quasar. It oneshots if you hit the face. The railgun feels off to me.
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I hate how an explosion will ragdoll me but barely inconvenience my enemies. I had an alpha warrior blow up a forklify and it caused me to ragdoll, but barely even caused that motherfucker to flinch.
In fact, most explosions are like that. With their "ragdoll" range being much higher than their damage range.
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>>563033336
>>Conveniently ignores the rest of my post
If someone opened their argument with
>"Bro, eating shit and drinking vomit is actually super good for you!"
Would you listen to whatever they said after?
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>>563033629
Realism for playes, space magic for enemies
Its how this retarded game works
Players can't climb ledges slightly taller than them, enemies will warp on top of mountains and phase through buildings.
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>>563033230
The damage calculation is all over the place and not even swiggers themselves know shit.
But it is true - you can kill a bile titan with 2 overcharged direct shots to the face.

However, this shit is hard to pull off especially if you are on the move and usually you result in a miss requiring 3 shots on average anyway.
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>>563033397
I'm just trying to understand how this works while I'm trying out weapons.
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>>563011301
The Rape of Cyberstan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xc_52k-osI8
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>>563033230
You sure they weren't damaged before?
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>>563033818
only joels railroading won everyone else lost
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d10 whatevs
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>>563033818
I wish I wasn't so jaded by swigger arrogance to care enough to make the game like this in my mind. Meanwhile in reality its just the most low effort slopshit.
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>>563032793
Generally I would prefer 45-50 ergo minimum, though I can make do with 35 if the alternative is 20 (e.g. Eruptor). As for recoil, obviously less is good, but given that crouch-ADS is an option for most weapons it doesn't play a huge role outside of run-and-gun scenarios.

>>563033230
No. The video you see where someone kills a Bile Titan in anything less than three headshots are either a result of the Bile Titan already taking damage before, or are from the game's early days when the Railgun was literally bugged to do exponentially more damage than it was supposed to whenever a PS5 player was hosting the game.
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>>563033056
Really? Even on something like HMG? I feel like at that point you pretty much have to rely on good positioning and getting the enemies to funnel since it takes longer to snap onto enemies that are more spread out.
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>>563033910
full
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>>563033638
>claims the redditor wanted to make the game better
>gets easily disproven with facts
>"umm ur argument dumm"
Don't reply to my post again unless you have an actual argument , niggerbaby.
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>>563034061
YOU CAN'T DO THIS TO ME, TWIN
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>>563034089
yes, welcome back to no lobby
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>>563034008
Yeah just aim past your target then snap back, it's no different from controlling recoil
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>>563034089
well I'm doing it to you now, so what're you gonna do about it timmy tuff knuckles?
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>>563033230
You're right, the numbers don't make sense.
Must be something like registering a shot twice at random.
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>>563034284
Grok, obliterate his balls.
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>>563034080
I never claimed anything, schizo.
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>>563022041
Their shields are invincible. Even hellbombs can't blow it up. Explosives only bypass it because they can go past the shield with splash damage.
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>>563030740
squids by far because of the fucked up shit they do with voteless. We must recuperate the lost population with squid sex
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>>563032793
I'm coming around to the conclusion that higher recoil is harder to manage than high ergonomics. I can always SWING HARDER.
The difference between going full ergo attachments and full recoil attachments on something like the coyote is very noticeable. Reducing the recoil makes it easy to hold down the trigger in third person while moving.
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>>563034521
>ummmm wasn't me actually ;)
KWAB
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>>563034693
based squidfucker
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>bot MO
Ahhhh you were at my side all along...
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>>563035268
>bots
Once you learn how to aim you will find that this weapon is the superior primary choice on bots.
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>>563035268
Wtf... that's not the trident
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>>563035058
Its time for your meds
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>>563035436
O_O
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With a good dev team. Balance would be a mixture of powerful weapons, with powerful enemies. Enemies, that respect the laws of physics, and don't walk through terrain.

But alas, we have Swedish devs.
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>>563035537
that is the face you make when you realise you can kill 5 berserkers and 5 devastators with a single magazine using this weapon
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>>563035436
>Once you learn how to aim
Sorry anon I'm... unable...
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Why use any primary besides trident
Why use any secondary besides ultimatum
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>>563035729
does trident still overheat after like 7 shots?
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>>563035524
>he's still going
KWAB
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>>563035834
But in frozen planets you get like 9
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>>563035898
epic, simply epic.
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>>563035524
Oopsie woopsie, forgot my image.
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>>563035682
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>>563035729
can somebody convince me to stop using the trident
I can't stop
I use it on all fronts
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>went to fight bots
>swigger designed game quick played me into some zoomer child fighting bugs
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>>563035436
>shield dev slightly moves his shield upwards to cover his head
Nothing personnel kid...

I do agree that lib carbine rapes all the cyborgs though
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>>563035729
I think you meant eruptor
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Another name to add to the LIST.
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>>563033910
https://youtu.be/HbdygECc6MU
>C3 right now
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>>563033964
if only AH would care as much about Helldiver as you
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Which title is the biggest red flag?
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>>563035891
>>563036000
>Double replied because hes too mad to think clearly
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>>563036524
Rookie, the teamkilling faggot who does nothing all game except waste tickets is always Rookie.
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>>563035834
It has no cooldown delay so if you just pace yourself the tiniest bit you should never overheat. Especially since it cools so fast the burnout reload is actually slower.
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>>563036524
Maybe Super Citizen
I like it because big shiny words but I dont want people to think im a bigger paypig than I already am
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>>563036524
After seeing that faggot post that someone put here from the official discord, I would guess it would be things like general, commander, admiral, sergeant.
Anything that sounds like an actual military rank because it means they take themselves too seriously.
>i lead an elite squad
>i fought on malevelon creek
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>>563035834
>Fix the Adjudicator with one single trick!
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>>563036710
Anon, you already paid forty dollars for the game, and you paid either AMD or nVidia hundreds to be able to run the game at all...
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>team deathspirals
>lock in
>single handedly do every main objective
>everyone else is doing sidequests ig
>die to some bullshit at extract
>everyone else extracts
I fucking Late this game
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>>563036524
Fire Safety Officer is a coin flip with them either being really good or really bad with unorthodox shit like ABRLs or mines.
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>>563036847
Yeah but others dont gotta know that
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>>563036840
That kind of damage on a high velocity AP3 rifle is reserved for the Justice
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>>563036840
>fucked up and replied on accident
I didn't mean to reply to you tridentbro...
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>>563037070
Never ever, never, never ever!
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I blame these assholes for a lot of things
Do your job
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>>563037285
What helmets even are those?
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>>563036562
>ur LE MAD
Your final cope is going to be "I was only pretending", right?
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>>563037460
Looks like the heatseeker but in normal diver colors.
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>>563036840
Swedes should have embraced it being a marksman rifle instead of just turning it into a shitty assault rifle. I would've given it that high damage and the choice to pick mag sizes of 20, 25, or 30 rounds that affect ergonomics and reload speed. Maybe increase the recoil so the full auto feels like a monster when you're shredding something that's close up
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>>563037798
It is odd there is no battle rifle niche acting as a midpoint between the marksman and AR's since that was clearly the intent with it.
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>>563037460
This one?
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>>563037843
Even moreso when you realize it has a 10x scope as an option.
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>Delusional trannycore weapons for midwits with a chip on their shoulder (they insist utter trash is good)
Adjudicator
Dominator
One-Two
Airburst Rocket Launcher
Heavy Machine Gun
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>>563038640
Malding troon got clocked
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>>563030429
https://www.nexusmods.com/helldivers2/mods/3330?tab=files

Its in here, scroll down to Goon Squids.
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>>563037843
I guess they felt like there wasn't enough to consider adding it as it's own category? The only two that come to mind are the Amendment which actually feels pretty good to use imo and the Adjudicator you have to kind of treat as a longer ranged weapon which makes it suck ass because it doesn't have the damage or recoil to be good enough at long ranges. Maybe the Tenderizer could also be reworked into a BR since it's kind of overshadowed by the other ARs
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>>563038504
what's wrong with the HMG?
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>>563033910
GGs
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>>563037545
Yeah, you are mad.
Thanks for confirming my assertion here: >>563032738
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warbond news?



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