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Stratofortrass Edition

Previous thread: >>562946819

>Official site:
warthunder.com/

>Fan created content:
live.warthunder.com/

>Wiki with info on tech trees, weapon systems and game mechanics:
wiki.warthunder.com/Main_Page

>Old, better wiki:
old-wiki.warthunder.com/Main_Page

>Old forums archive:
pastebin.com/EyMhsLAJ

>Guides to Air and Ground battles + MEC:
steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=742852313
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hgHbWlSjefFhCqOUeGpoKQntdQDPG32X7XQo9EqDF00
old-forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/438251-strategic-tips-for-ground-battle-maps-36-maps-90-videos-as-of-28august2020

>Guides on missiles, radars, radar warning receivers:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Weghk_2DpfA
www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tQ6JzPWEFU
youtu.be/DOGazUgUdsQ
youtu.be/wAtTS8xSYEc

>Guides on how to evade missiles and survive top tier:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsmGiyODPuM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUJJ94NwH_g
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CAN_Mo2d74
www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbKcAdLoWDk
www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYfNbDZw5J8

>Guided weapons statistics:
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SsOpw9LAKOs0V5FBnv1VqAlu3OssmX7DJaaVAUREw78

>What tanks have thermals and their generations:
thunderview.net/thermals/

>Someone sending you runes?:
translate.yandex.com/ocr

>Player, game mode, and vehicle stats:
https://statshark.net/

Reminder: would

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howdy
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Catch my Nord.
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I've forgotten to fly the harrier
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evening /wtg/
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>unlock yak-141
>won't get it in time for the event because poorfag
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Question, I recently started playing AAB and i was wondering what should I do when someone gets behind me and starts firing? No matter what I do I always end up dead/on fire (yes I know the climbing thing and unless there is someone hyper fixated on you it works to get some early kill) also are bombers viable? And does it gets better or every br is just bomber going back and forth while fighters reach the middle of the map and unless you caught someone from the back they will wep at 1km and try to ram into you?
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>>563083846
It wasn't actually op for the event. Burgers were just seething that it was capable of fighting back
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>5 games to get last star for B-52H
>2 games to get last star for Tu-95M
hmmm no wonder they made these shitty changes
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Can you fags just use a normal OP image and not this freak shit
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>>563084182
Where do you think we are?
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Bruuuuuuuuuuhhh
After 8 years i finally caught one
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>>563084050
Normally it's an "ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure" type thing where you are best served by being aware enough of your positioning to never let anyone get on your tail in the first place. After that it comes down to recognizing the relative advantages of your planes and leveraging something that you do better to gain an advantage. Or leverage teamwork. Teamwork tends to be op.
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>>563084280
what did you say
i've said some pretty foul stuff and never got it
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>>563084270
Why isnt it just an anime pin up? Why are there plane parts haphazardly stapled to the human character? It looks retarded and is just aesthetically hideous
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holy fuck i won't miss this game mode
never again
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>>563084617
i called some amerimutts and slavmutts arguing shitskins
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>>563084825
lmao
i start every game by saying in global that i hate niggers and jews and the french.
i probably get a pass because of the french hate desu.
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>>563084814
You know it's coming back in a permanent fashion sooner or later?
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>start nuclear match
>rush mid
>get some kills
>die
>leave
>repeat
Thanks for the far apart airfields, dear gaijin retards & supporters. Now it's just not worth playing on the same match when the starting furball dissipates.
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>>563085009
im sure you do!
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>>563084182
this is the gacha board
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>>563085289
yea just like how world war mode was gonna come back new and improved!
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>>563085289
i could care less
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why they give us a boring grey B-52 when it could have had the based SIOP camo
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>>563085732
Just download a user skin, they are free
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>>563085810
If you were invisible, would you bother wearing clothes?
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>>563085810
I did but they're slow as fuck to load because the game doesn't cache them, and they're all 4x the size of normal camos because the bombers use 8k textures
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>tail gun on the B52 doesn't have infinite ammo
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>OSA has black launchers/radar
>is still able to launch
honeymoon period is over, I wont miss this dogshit
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for me, it's the palm leaves
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>>563086179
doesn't have infinite ammo?
fucking hell it doesn't even function for me LOL
>press v
>cycles through everything BUT the gunner
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>>563086353
I tried to shot down some asshole coming at me in regular RAB and it said 'weapon out of ammo'
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papa daniel
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>>563086267
WRONG!
for you it's the rope
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>>563086353
>>563086480
He is reloading the gun nvm. I just died before I noticed it.
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>>563086535
and the boyos

Fab 9000+Cover also gave me an instant research bonus for completing the Tier IV mods
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lightning and f106 chads roll out
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>>563085686
Then do.
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>>563086569
>'e didn't buy
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I appreciate both bombers having 5 trillion chaffs but there's no radar missile planes at their br. Let us pack 10 billion flares instead....
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>>563087062
The best missile doesn't care about either.
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>>563087062
Your R511s? Your AIM-7Cs? Your R-3Rs?
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literally FIX THE FUCKING AA BEING OMNISCIENT GODS THIS IS SO RETARDED AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>563087062
>what is R-3R
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>>563087062
bonjour
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>>563087187
git gud retard
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>>563087187
more like omniscient cucks rofl
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>take Tu-95 for a spin in arkaden
>AI gunners shoot down enemy B-52 that flies past too close
>get chased and shot down by Tu-95 on the opposite team
fun. Now to never play it again
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>decide to fully spade the Chinese PBY4
>Join match
>Spend 10 minutes side climbing
>3km from enemy base
>Get team killed by a friendly fighter
>Ask why
>"Taiwan is china"
Fuck Is their problem?
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>be having a close match, actually enjoying it
>well too bad))) F-14nigger with 30 deaths already spawned strategic bomber))))))))
if it was within my power to physically and mentally make F-14 subhumans feel the most agonizing and debilitating pain until the heat death of the universe, I would do it
I wish to become God just to make F-14niggers and chinks by association suffer for all of eternity
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anyone nuked a grb match in the tu95 yet?
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>>563088471
The "nuke" is a nothingburger, both the Pe-8's wartime FAB-5000 and the bong 12000 lb bomb are way bigger.
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>>563088471
nukes aren't in the normal game modes. Event only
Biggest bombs you get are FAB-9000
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holy fuck the gamemode is so shit now
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>every death is to a roland or a hawk
>SEAD takes most of the match to open a corridor and even then you're still getting launched at
>barely half the points I was getting just running it down the center airfield before the patch
this game mode is just so ass. glad I'm almost done with it.
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Who else is comfily nuking AA while listening to the retard pit seething about spawning 30 seconds further away from the frontline?
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>>563090074
Me, I like the changes (the gameplay ones anyway, the score shit can suck a dick).
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I would pay good money to watch a gaijin Dev play this game mode on the US side for one niggering match while only using the planes the event gives you
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>play russian
>mig23 radar refuses to lock anything
>missiles don't fuse 50% of the time
>there is some death barrier that instantly gets you killed by an spaa if you go too far into enemy territory
>ground attack loadout is so bad nobody is bombing
>90% of the time you lose
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>>563090213
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they need to hotfix the event back to how it was on day 1, this is horrific
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>>563090470
Pidors, I mean valued customers were obtaining SL and RP at levels which went against the spirit of the game. The changes were necessary))
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>F-4E radar refuses to lock to the ming front of me
>F-4E radar will however lock on to the BUK missile fired on the other half of the continent
I don't even have the energy to be angry anymore
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>>563090470
top tier bracket was more balanced when F14 iran was allowed, now US teams almost never win because R27s rape anything they look at and Miggers move so fast with nukes only tomcats can effectively deal with multiple of them.
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>Nuclear thunder was balanced when Tomcats could ass rape USSR so hard they couldnt do anything about it
this is your average mutt brain btw
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>>563091730
hes right tho
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Mutts are once again proving that the only radar modes that they understand are PD TWS and PD HMD ACM.
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>>563090352
play Su-25 with the ARM+Vikhr loadout
You'll make 300 points in one or two flights if you're not too braindead to use the ARMs, then switch to vikhrs to take out other vehicles the SPAA was protecting
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>>563091953
>understand
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>>563091953
Phantom radar is shit though, it doesn't work at the altitudes this whole game mode forces you in to
You can occasionally get a lock if you manually tilt the radar to look up but that's usually somebody who is tossing a nuke and now you're flying directly to the blast area
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>get back to airfield with nuke su24 after bombing, dodging four f4e's
>packet loss right as i land
)
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>>563092069
The other half of the issue is that I keep getting matched into games almost finished.
But thanks, I'll try it.
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every post with the word "mutt" in it in this thread always contains the most retarded "i have a kdr of 0.02 and also i live in the third world" sentiments i've ever heard
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every post with the word "mutt" in it in this thread always contains the most based "i have a kdr of 20.0 and also i live in the first world" sentiments i've ever heard
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It feels good loitering at 6km in the f4s on my side of the line knowing that nobody on the Russian team can touch me. I can just sit back and ponder my PDV search scope and orbital strike any suck24s that are trying to flank.
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now that the gigasleep event is over give JRVG-1
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>>563092612
Yeah, that is another issue.
The above works best on the forward flank airfields at the start of a match. I prefer the coastal side to the mountain side
But you can do it around the centre furball as well because SPAA radars in the field will be distracted by your teammates. It just makes the process of taking other vehicles out, more difficult because you have to worry about enemy air in the middle while you're fucking around with the Vikhr guidance system
You do get 2x R-73s and 2x R-60s as well though so it's not like you're totally defenceless
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I golden eagled the mutt star
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>>563093571
you're jewish
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why are these niggers so desperate for my SL?
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>>563094336
They know everyone decent with jets made a fortune during the first few days of the event
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>>563094336
you get a small chance for some dogshit vehicle i guess
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>biggest bomb load with the three free unlocks
this will cost me my first born child
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>>563094336
i always buy them all down to my last silver shekel
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>>563094336
they're pretty neat if you have nothing else to spend the SL on. I take them just for the boosters, been ages since I got a vehicle I didn't already have.
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>>563094336
Victory Day sale soon

They want to tank the price of marketplace coupons so they dip even lower when people need funds to buy packs by selling event vehicles they've been hodling
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>>563092949
I have a kdr of 10 and mutts are the worst players ever
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Rate my Swedish lineup
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>>563096596
>pbil haver
1488/10
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>>563095973
nah dude. You have a k/d more like 36:1
I saw your statshark stats
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>>563093320
it's not for me, both the arm and the vikhr needs too much fiddling and I don't like the platform to begin with
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>>563096740
Is it good?
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>>563096596
>No T-34
Unusable dogshit
Back to the drawing board
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>>563096790
i was a bit humble the kd for this month is 13.5 with 3000 kills
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>>563096949
absolute niggerwagon
>>563096961
i really hate the turd-34 and piss-4
most boring and unfun tanks ever made
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>>563097263
My k/d dropped way down to 12:1 because I had been playing so drunk I had to cover my left eye with a rag because I was seeing double.
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I love how people pretend that NATO MBTs with high reverse speed, internal dead space, and gun depression don't completely outperform slav MBTs
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hey, finally spotted one of you guys in the wild
If you like the furball you should really use the F-4J instead of the E
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>>563097862
right but imagine one of us was only half kidding
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>>563096596
>sherman without hull mg weakspot
>time traveling heat slinger
>nigger car that goes -70 in reverse
>time traveling aphe slinger that has an autoloader as a bonus
>light tank menace of low tier but better
>niggerest variant of the kv1
>p51 but premium
>niggerest 4.3 plane in the game
Fuck you
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>>563098038
hes lowkey right about the furball
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>>563098217
>>sherman without hull mg weakspot
That's neat, but the really great part is the way stronger engine. It's easily the most mobile sherman.
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>>563098297
Yeah, if only because the PvE part sucks balls due to absurdly strong and frustrating AA. PvE is fine as Russia I suppose, when you're orbitally nuking Hawk sites from 9 km up
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>>563098217
better to just play 3.7, really
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Lucky with B-52, not so lucky with Tu-95
Also how would you spade these things? I never played dedicated bombers in ARB, only fighters
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What the FUCk am I supposed to do in a fucking t-80 on knife fight maps against leopard 2s and abrams
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>>563099078
you want two to three months until these things stop being so common that everyone and their mother specifically seeks out their BR range to abuse them as SL/RP pinata. Then you play ARB and fucking pray everyone leaves you alone.
Or you just don't, until they get some sort of use.
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>>563099078
the only times ive seen these bombers not instantly die is by spawning on the runway and praying they dont run into anything on the ground then bombing either bases or ground units
if you spawn in the regular bomber spawn there will be at least 3 vautours / mach 1+ lightning/su7/f106/f104 players flying straight towards you and holding left click
tu95 at least has more turrets so you can gunship b52s but it doesnt matter at all for any other plane unless someone retarded just decides to stall out directly behind you
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buy cяates
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i4w?
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>>563099949
coming of age ritual for pidors
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>waiting for battle: 305
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>>563099949
>пiдcилювaч
ACTUAL clown language
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>>563082791
First ever vehicle pull after years of gambling. Was this worth all of this years luck?
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>>563098494
Today i did 70 ground kills and dropped the B52 nuke.
With the F4E 1.5kt nuke
'nuff said
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>>563090790
you mean tomcat chinks?
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>>563090352
if you think the Mig-23 is dogshit, you'll kill yourself when you learn the F-4E is 100x worse
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>>563101006
anon...
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>>563101006
worst tank in the game
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>>563101073
Maybe I'm just retarded. With the F-4E I get fucked by Buk/S-300 when trying to high alt drop, and with low alt ones I only really get ~3 kills per base
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>>563100828
keeeeeek
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>keeeeeek
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I didn't post no frog
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>>563101478
Use CCRP to toss bomb at depots you mark on the map with MMB
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>>563101006
it's good at one thing
being a big stinking pile of chink slop
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>>563101897
That's what I'm doing, I just don't get many ground kills per depot
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>friendly nukes depot
>many enemy get shot down
>everyone desperately killing ground units
>all in 30 seconds
>enemy tickets dont go down at all
>our tickets keep bleeding til 0
of no preference))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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>>563099949
https://youtu.be/wnUVIp9hWZA?t=450
>The European Canadian calls the nuclear football a gacha, describing it as a "horrific thing" and "egregious"
You shouldn't encourage Gaijin by putting your SLs down for this
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Since the Object 279 is so good, why didn't the USSR just go all in on production of it and invade Europe? A gesture of goodwill I'd guess.
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crazy how german, american, and russian tanks don't have holes in their mantlets for the coax but everyone else does
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>>563099078
Maybe sim?
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>>563101290
>>563101414
>>563101926
Damn. No more gambling for me.
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In for what
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So where are all the mutts in ground rb wanting to play the bomber
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>>563103703
massively downgraded j-11b
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>>563103756
spading it in ARB
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>>563103703
massively upgraded j-11b
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>join nucular thudner game
>lose 0.1s after spawning
exhaled air at slighly higher speed than usual through my nose
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>>563098038
F-4j and S are wasted on the furball. They are much better suited 5-6km up and ~15-20km away from the furball.
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is 10.3 inhabitable? how often does it get raped by the inevitable force?
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>>563101478
>high altitude dropping the S300s
>low altitude dropping the depots
You're doing it backwards!!
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>>563103703
Firing ten billion r77s, but only within pitbull range
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>>563104689
I don't play higher than 9.3, so can't help you.
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>>563104719
High altitude drops work pretty damn well with the 23MLD, you can easily bomb the SAM sites that way
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>>563101286
I have the f4J, getting the mutt task done has been a child's play since the first patch.
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>>563104719
missile-to-my-canopy style! how you like it!?
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>got one more star to grind after this one in the state this mode is currently in or worse
i dont think its worth it, i'm old i get cramps and hypertension
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>>563105529
pipe down unc
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based retard
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I'm so tired of those hard-to-use F-14 niggers
I still can't believe they allow Fox-3s in the event
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>>563105529
I shelled out for the last b-52 task after doing the tu-95. the changes are really fucking bad.
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>>563105529
I played not a single second of this shit event
yet i'm going to get both planes
you too could do this with this simple trick!
get a job
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>>563105251
The Hawks can normally be knocked out that way since they're often distracted by the retard pit, but you're asking for trouble going high vs the patriots.
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>>563101006
It's not that bad if you play it slowly. Especially now that 10.0 is full downtier zome. The small ATGMs mulch light tanks and the fnf ones are very useful against helicopters.
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>play the game?
>when I can just wageslave and skip playing?
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>take out prowler
>get within 15km of an osa
>shoot anti radiation missle
>osa turns its radar off
>missle flies into the stratosphere
skill issue
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A player in one of my lobbies accidentally learned that his R60s have radar slaving
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>>563106061
>waste your precious cash on something that you can get for free while jerking off
no thanks i dont like wasting my time
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>>563106882
its an intruder, not a prowler
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>>563106882
>ARM
>no IOG
I somehow doubt the americans were stupid enough to design it like that
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>point requirement is 7700 not 7000
i swear to god it was 7000
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>>563107406
it was
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>f4j can just keep a lock against the sky when shitting out chaff
ok?
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>>563107078
>wasting your time for something you can get for pennies
no wonder you're poor
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Anyone know this random shittalker?
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>>563107830
>play war thunder in spare time between work
>waste your work money so you dont have to play wt
weird
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>>563101006
holy shit lmao
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>there are people in this thread who paid $120 to receive completely worthless event vehicles they will never ever play
mental illness/addiction
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>>563107798
Pretty sure the 4j has hdn PD radar. Watch it drop it's spaghetti if you turn around and chaff
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we did it leddit
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>>563108217
I just want a single fucking kill so i can be done with this fucking reddit mode forever
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>>563108241
could have been worse I guess
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>>563108452
Pretty sure those are the exact 3 I got
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>>563108135
Uh, how do I spend $120 on event vehicles?
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>>563107830
>>563107078
>>563106061
You don't want to play the game
>therefore
You spend real money to unlock something in the game that you don't want to play
>then
You have something new unlocked in the game you don't want to play, just by paying with real money
>then
You boast about it on an anonymous anime forum

You cannot be this retarded
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>>563102331
He put this out every single time they do SL boxes like this as clickbait?
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>retard is flexing that he spent pennies on a vatnik skinner box
which third world country
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Brrrr my feet are cold
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not bad
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>>563110238
>my feet hurt
>I wish I was back at base
>mfw still 3 hours to the target
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>>563110394
>xm800t
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These new bombers seem surprisingly squishy, folding to mere few cannon hits.
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>>563110884
>a mere few cannon hits
why are you acting like 30mm cannons do no damage?
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migger bros we eatin GOOD in sim right now
we downright FEASTING
get the fuck in here
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>cheap to spawn
>no one can really touch you unless there is CAP up (gorillion flares and prop heat signature)
>CAP can't touch you with missiles, must get close and potentially get gaped by your turrets
>despite FAB-5000-52 being a downgrade, it is still decent with the amount of light armoured vehicles around this BR, plus you get two
downsides:
>forget going back to base, takes too long to land and you dont spawn in the air after rearming
>you really need to plan your bombing mission (it has CCRP), not maneouverable enough for last minute change of hearts. Probably only good for clearing up spawn from SPAA or nuking points
I wont go as far as saying it is amazing, but it definitely has potential. Can see myself using it to farm 10-unit wagers
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>>563111274
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no comment on FAB-9000 since I didn't get it, and I am not grinding it
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This is so much fun.
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>>563111032
my tu95 blew up the second it was touched by the 23mm pidor hose
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>>563110798
>OH N- ack!
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>>563111959
how are you being hit by SPAA cannons from 10km away?
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>>563110394
actually impressible with now badly they nerfed big bombs

>>563111439
fab-9000 is weaker than the fab-5000
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>>563112432
worse than pe-8 fab-5000*
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>babysit north side ground forces
>wipe osas multiple times
>after 30 mins our convoy actually takes the enemy depot
>we spawn 3 osas
>enemy decides its time to furball north
>the osas dont do shit
>dont even shoot
>5 migs 3km arround it
>nope
just 2k points and im done
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turns out the b-52 is okay in air rb in terms of getting points because of the long range bomber spawn and it's speed and payload
it gets raped by supersonics though
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>>563101414
not having any ammo if you get shot in the turret
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>>563113469
>doesn't happen to the pidornator
)))))))))))
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>>563113073
seems like the forward SPAAs just shit themselves when they run out of ammo and dont reload
been killing a lot of SPAAs with the ARMs and they dont even react apart from turning on their radar
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>>563108452
I got cover, engine and fab 1500. I don’t have the patience to grind out the extra star
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How the hell are mutts losing against MiG-23/29 and Yak-141? They have the entire American tech tree and early fox 3s at their disposal.
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I really dont see why they couldnt give the Tu-95 subsonic cruise missiles (non nuclear warhead of course) at the cost of raising its BR
it's not like it has any targetting optics, you would just set a point in the map and sling it at those coordinates
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>>563114395
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>>563114803
>we still don't have a map taking place in Agartha
wtf is Gaijin doing with all their money?
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>>563114395
There was a cataclysmic spergout last time they tried to give russia abysmally useless GNSS/fire-at-marker missiles.
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>>563114395
even if they wanted to, the tu95 ingame isnt able to carry them
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>spent the whole day raping retarded niggers with AA-20's
>almost every match is a full uptier to 9.3
>remember how I still haven't touched F-106 since I got it
ey nice I finally have an excuse to spade it, this event really is the only good thing a*ton has done in the past decade
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>>563115247
https://youtu.be/uYIa_iHVxws?si=NJgzeoGxemhfUWlu
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>>563115917
lol you reminded me i have that vehicle as well
guess ill play it tomorrow
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Harms don't work well for me...I just use Vikhr to take out vehicles..
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>got B-52 for GRB
>forgot 8.7 GRB is kinda boring
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>>563116123
your xm800 sir?
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>speak truth in chat
>
since when does this happen?
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>>563116123
>B-52 for GRB
you trying to carpet a single line of the map with mediocre bombs?
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>>563114803
when are they adding the death star trench run
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>>563116123
your M60A1 RISE?
your XM246?
your XM800T?
your Chadley?
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>wait in f-14B nuclear thunder queue for 3hrs
>cancel queue
>queue up again
>instantly get a game
slav krokodilbaby rape-alcoholic subhuman code
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>>563116593
this was discovered an issue the first day of the event you fucking troglodyte
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at least USSR 8.3 GRB is handheld so i can nuke my enemies with ease
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>>563116694
>known issue since first day
>still not fixed despite like 10 500 mb patches
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>>563116828
>be the most retarded man currently alive
>sit in game queue for 3 hours thus making yourself look stupider than anybody you could possibly point the finger at
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are there any differences between the premium bmd, tech tree bmd and event bmd apart from one lacking in reverse speed and both new ones having thermal citv?
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>get into a dogfight
>start having fun
>Osa jump scare
joke's on me I guess
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>>563116945
not really, they're all the same
wish i had all three so i could spam three of them in a match
they are so broken
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>>563117185
i remember when anton fucked up and bmd4 released with 30+ missiles
meanwhile bmp3 had that for a few years and only bmd4 was a reason for the fix
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nobody cares, filip
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>>563117779
clockwork after being buckbroken
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>fuel tank stops your shell
>fuel tank bursts, covering vehicle interior with fuel
>well oiled crew continues working at peak efficiency
>inhaling petroleum fumes increases pain resistance
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>>563118354
>inhaling petroleum fumes increases pain resistance
proven by the featherheads
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>>563101006
the zbd is 10000000000 times better
anyways, you're in for
>T-54 hull at 10.0
>paper turret
>being on fire all the time
>dying to inextinguishable fires
>small missiles slamming into the ground
>not penning anything with them anyways
>having to manually raise your launchers after locking on an enemy
>big missiles missing 99% of the time
>losing ALL your ammo if any of your launchers gets shot
>only 200 rounds for your 30mm
>no ammo box
it's comically dogshit and never getting fixed because nobody plays it. why retards compare it to the bmpt is beyond me
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how long are your rank VIII queues for america
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such a shame you are an amerimutt otherwise i could have you derail the thread at will during eu hours
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you can literally fly at 5m and an OSA with no LOS to you will perfectly track
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who is blud talking to?
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>>563116593
>>563116694
it's because the game is trying to rig the match, it does the same when you activate a booster but finding a rigged match takes longer than just shoving you into a game.
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>>563119061
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you wouldn't know
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>>563119592
please take the meds
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Anton should just ban anyone affiliated with LowIQ
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>appear over a ridgeline
>an OSA is 1km away
>it robotically snaps to me and instantly shits out an undodgeable missile
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>>563119959
ok darkdragon
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>thread quality plummets when niggerit appears
mere coincidence
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Hmmm...
Anon's hearing voices in the walls again, I better increase his dose...
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I should not have to share matchmaking with these inhuman automatons that masquerade as real players in Naval. I would rather spend 5 minutes waiting for a 99% gaijin bots match than deal with these subhumans. 6.7-7.0 drones who somehow die within the first 3 minutes of the match while forcing all the bots to spawn as battleships is bullshit.
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>>563103703
the most handheld jet in the game, just play like a rat since your radar is useless. HMS is great for it though because of r77s
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>>563088662
What's even the point of the FAB-9000 when you can bring four FAB-3000s to kill all bases in Air RB, possibly the best loadout for Ground RB too, unless you want something bigger with two FAB-5000s. What's the use case?
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We did it plebbit
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>>563123669
I got bretty gud rng methinks
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>>563123368
there literally isn't, it's really just for clickbait. im still pissed at how heavily they nerfed all bomb kill radii so its even worse somehow.
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how come only the kv-1 gets to sit at a BR where it's immune to any gun at a lower BR than it, even HEAT
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>>563124461
filtered
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>>563124461
git gud
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>>563124461
Should have won the war, cuckold
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>>563123669
Catch my Nord.
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>>563124461
ah yes because the tiger ii is not immune to basically everything lower BR than it
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>>563124850
w-wha
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>>563125000
The replay doesn't show missiles properly ignore what's flying there.
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>>563124998
You can shoot the konigstiger in the side with a bad gun and easily pen it, you shoot a KV-1 in the side and it bounces straight off
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>doesn't do SEAD at the start
all crying about OSAs does is making you a ridicule target
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it's beneath my dignity to shoot NPCs, I only shoot at players
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>>563125650
there's a tiny russian podpivkas inside every single supposedly AI osa
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How do I do that when OSAs shoot down all my HARMs
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>>563125746
You wait until it's shot at you, than fire an ARM and it dies before it's missile hits you thus nullifying it.
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>>563125308
you can shoot an abrams in the side with a BT-7
i'm talking frontal engagement
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>it's beneath my dign-
BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>USSR gets OSA with abysmally slow missile which then paradoxically become super maneuverable and nearly impossible to dodge
>USA gets Roland with a 50/50 chance of the missile being invisible and silent sudden death syndrome
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not bad. I missed day one of B52 so I guess I got more work ahead of me.
Compared to the past few days, Nuclear Thunder's SPAAG has been manageable. But I was playing Russian. So I'll find out tomorrow if it's better on the other side. From what I've seen though, doesn't bode well.
>>563126074
>>USA gets Roland with a 50/50 chance of the missile being invisible and silent sudden death syndrome
I have jumped out of my seat on more than one occasion from those fucking silent Roland strikes.
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>>563126074
>>563126339
I have watched a roland missile hit the ground and explode, and then telepathically kill me seconds later
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>>563126339
I got flares, FAB-1500, FAB-9000.
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>>563123831
>>563126731
Do the biggest bomb payloads have high drop rates?
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>>563126074
My issue is that OSAs spawn in fucky angles sometimes where you can't fuck them without exposing yourself to at least a couple more batteries, or sling a nuke their way.
My issue with Rolands is that they don't launch until you're so close if you fire a HARM it won't reach it before the Roland kills you. Don't know if it's just me but convoy Rolands won't fire until you're at 3km at which point depot Rolands fire at you and you're fucked because they intercept your HARMS or viceversa.
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LowIQ specimen spotten in the KRAB event.
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>Roland seems to be reloading or out of ammo since it's not shooting at me at all
>lock and launch HARM
>arcs and then smashes into the ground ~500m short
>what the fuck
>turn, lock, fire another
>missile nose dives 4km away
>turn, lock, fire another
>missile phases out of existence when it should have impacted
>turn, lock, fire the last missile
>flies off into the distance
>respawn a few minutes later
>launch 1 HARM from 7km away at the same Roland
>it dies
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>>563128886
Is that a thread celebrity or something
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Reminder that all the best players play top tier AAB.
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reminder that i'm shit at the game and i don't care
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a*ton did something
I just keep getting 9.7 matches with the F-106 now
this is unacceptable
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My takeaway is I have enjoyed the nuclear amount of salt and inability for monke to adapt to his circumstances. I need more of this.
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How much does destroying an AF with a mid nuke net you in terms of score and SP?
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>>563125746
try to go for forward lone SPAAs or convoy ones
sometimes it seems like they run out of ammo for a while and just turn on their radar and eat a HARM without doing anything
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>>563130772
i think it's around 1.1k score for a 12.5kt strike
that includes the spaa on the field
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>>563130772
30kt? 1k or so points, sp you get is literally half
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>>563130396
And yet you cared enough to let us all know.
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>spawn in stratosphere when there's no CAP
>turn on infinite countermeasures
>line yourself up with any contested cap/hotspot and enemy spawn
>drop one FAB-5000 on contested cap/hotspot and one in spawn
>J out
almost always nets you 5+ kills
the 2x 5000 FABs seems like the superior loadout compared to the 9k
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>>563130874
>>563130923
is score from damaging bases tied to the 12.5kt max you can drop on it? is it given to you only when you deal the killing blow to it? can you get 300SP for dealing the last quarter of damage left with a small nuke?
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i4w?
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>>563131453
minor airfields have 12.5kt worth of health
i think they used to be more on the first day but might be misremembering
30kt nuke will always ohk it
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>everyone bitches about the OSAs
>rolands don't even render, make a sound or show a diamond not even while it's still burning half of the time
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Waiting time is longer than my time in game with the Bomber, lol!!
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>>563131679
yes but i'm asking if the 300SP you get from destroying it only comes from OHKing the airfield or do you also get 300SP if you toss a 5kt nuke to finish it off
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>>563132214
nah it's like finishing off a base
you only get a lil bit of points for that, the act of destroying the airfield only gives some points; most of them come from the damage dealt to it
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>>563132284
damn i gotta hog 2 airfields without dying just to break even then? that doesn't seem that fair and balanced tf
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>>563132381
yeah
feels like the smaller nuke gives a better bang for buck on account not feeling like a waste to drop it on a depot or whatever
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Theoretically could the b52 be given a dozen or so Aim-9xs?
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>>563132446
eh some of the juicier depots in the center are worth a 30kt nuke
I've gotten 30x destroyed ground units just from one. That was around 2000 score just from a single nuke
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>>563132568
yeah 12x AIM-9Xs at 8.7, anton confirmed it to me personally
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If the B-52 had access to guided munitions, it would simply become the best American plane in the whole game, I can't wait for the premium version that carries said ordnance
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>>563133827
>gets NORD'd
ejjejejejeje
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Does it not let you bomb the airfield anymore? been so long since I played with bombers and got this far
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>CCRP refuses to let me drop bomb in BUK encampment
enough with this fucking garbage piece of shit
back to CCIP and freecam
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big ass chute tho
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>GRB
>4 (FOUR) Tu-95Ms up in our team
>ALL of them fail to get a single kill
lole
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>>563136161
People haven't caught up to the nerf that bombs got like 2 patches ago.
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>get tu-95
>chinknigger that camped spawn since the start of the match rams me
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fucking airfield nuking niggers always forcing matches to end early before anyone gets the big bombers they should get sent to the ukranian front without guns
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fucking airfield nuking chads forcing matches to end early before niggers get the big bombers they should get send complimentary fruit baskets and cheese assortments
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i bomb
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>want to try Tu-95M
>play GRB after months of not touching it
>T58, XM8000T, XM246, XM1 (GM) all in the same match
yeah, see you next event
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>>563135358
for (you)
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>>563133514
I've been ignoring the depots. Some of them are nice, but everyone and their mother is gunning for them, they're surrounded by saclos from all of the convoys and adjacent depots, and members of the furball might bump into you. Instead I just vaporize the theater AA. The hawks/patriots/buks/S300 are worth more than the average ground target, and the drooling masses don't seem to fight over them like they do depots and airfields.
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it's not fair that i get rigged matches, i want to drop the big nukes too
i earn them all the time and yet always some bullshit from enemies or teammates prevents me from dropping
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>>563137148
There's always some 200 point loser (or four) who decide that they have nothing better to do than loiter up there for 30 minutes making zero score.
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>>563137357
I don't know what pissed me off, that or the fact that my team of half spicnigger ESLs half chinknigger ESLs ignored my requests pleas and begs for escort around the spawn for a full 10 minutes while I deleted the airfield and SAM sites on the side I was gonna spawn in and let me get killed.
Fucking game mode is rigged unless you luck out and get a mostly-English speaking, actually communicating team or play with squaddies but all my WT friends are retards who only play for the tanks.
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When is gaijin stealing the rights for anime collabs with shit like Girls un panzer and idk Kancolle or AL from wargaming instead of ironic homebrew anime slop?
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There should be less anime.
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>>563131663
redardo
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You gotta go back
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>>563138870
im not sure this is this physically possible, anon
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impressive
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>>563140343
Guess where the m1a1 got shot
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I was wondering why does the J-15T feels so slow when in paper is like 99% equal to the Su-30SM2 minus the TVC nozzles.
Statshark says the J-15T's engine is abysmally worse at every regime that matters despite having a bit more dry thrust. Why did Gaijin model it like this?
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>>563139369
Not with that attitude
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>>563140794
because it's accurate
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playing mutts to get the 5th star is making me want to kill myself
i definitely won't be doing the 6th one
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>decent at SEAD
>enemy notices
>gangstalks me in su-25 wherever I spawn
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>>563140794
you now understand that paper performance means literally nothing. also did you really think that rustrannies in their ever-asshurt nature would EVER allow chink flankers to be better than theirs?
>Why did Gaijin model it like this?
real, raw and unfiltered pettiness
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>>563140794
>why does the J-15T feels so slow when in paper is like 99% equal to the Su-30SM2 minus the TVC nozzles.
???
It's a su-33 clone with supposedly some extra composites for the airframe, it's a giant boat just like the su-33
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>watching some reels in the shitter
>suddenly I see a familiar name
>laugh so fucking hard I drop two logs
WARTG sissas... not like this...
https://www.instagram.com/p/DW79BaqADd_/
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>>563143950
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>>563138870
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>go for another round of cock and ball torture for +3 modules
I think I'd unlock more modules by just playing the fucking plane regularly in that same timespan, thank you.
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>>563143950
KEK
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all they had to do was make the spaa ai not broken and overpowered, and make it follow the rules of the game, and this event would've been great
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>want to use F-111F
>stock syndrome pain
fuck
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>>563145267
for me it's just retarded that it drives around

you think a certain path is safe, then 3 minutes later there are OSAs driving through at 80kph and noscoping you (which they can't even do IRL, they have to stop to fire)
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>>563146014
They're retarded that they can move and shoot, and it's retarded that they have PERFECT munition interception rates.
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911th nuke, funny number.

AMX-30 Super full uptier. It really is a fantastic tank. What a shame the tech tree 9.3 is dogshit slow.
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in fo wha?
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>>563147442
why the fuck wouldnt you just get the j11b
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>>563147726
maybe he wants something chinese
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>>563147976
so why would he play an israeli jet
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>>563148096
I am not initiated, help me understand
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>>563148096
Where is it in the pissntreali tree?
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>>563147442
Best 13.7 in the game with the best mechanical PD radar. UFO flight model.
The only downside is the 23mm piss gun.
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>>563148132
The J10 is a derivative of the IAI Lavi with a hodge-podge of foreign technologies thrown in for good measure.
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>>563148409
>its real
holy FUCK
KEEEEEEEEEEK
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>>563148495
>hi J10!
>not what I'm called
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>/wtg/ complaining
>R*ddit complaining
>In game chat complaining
Yeah sure SPAA shooting on the move and a lot of it or whatever. This is the most fun and engaging time I've had in this game ever.
My main issue with being thrown into high tier planes. Is that there doesn't seem to be any good info on how to actually use the systems. I've played enough DCS to be familiar with a lot of the weapons. But there you can at least look shit up if you're confused.
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>>563148409
wrong, it's a derivative of the J-9, Lavi data was acquired late in the projects life to refine the electronics on board the J-10 but the general shape of the airframe was already done by then
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>>563148885
ask here
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>>563148885
The only unanimously bad change was the air to air score nerf, every other change so far was great, especially the airfield repositioning. It's not enough of course, the SAMs still cheat, but there was definitely real improvement to the furball situation at least. The ones crying are mostly PvP-only trannies who can't get as many kills in as short a period of time as before.
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>>563148984
https://web.archive.org/web/20080526183625/http://www.janes.com/news/defence/jdw/jdw080519_2_n.shtml
>Russian aerospace engineers have confirmed to Jane's that China's Chengdu J-10 fighter aircraft benefited from significant, direct input from Israel's Lavi programme - including access to the Israel Aircraft Industries (IAI) Lavi aircraft itself.
>Senior Russian engineers who spoke to Jane's recalled their many visits to Chengdu, and elsewhere in China, some of which began in the 1980s. Jane's was told how Chengdu officials of the highest level stated how they had one of the IAI Lavi prototypes in their facilities. Describing his conversations with Chengdu concerning possession of a Lavi aircraft, one Jane's source commented: "I did not consider that to be a revelation ... doesn't everyone know that already?"
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>>563149161
this does not contradict my statement, everyone knows that most modern chinese avionics and missile development can be traced back to israeli sales
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>>563121321
I am here daily since the event begun
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>>563149161
>russians
>space
choose one
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>>563149321
let's go back to your original statement then
>general shape of the airframe was already done
the j10 has different air intakes, canard placement, hell even tail. my point is that the j10 looks a lot more like the Lavi than the j9.
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>>563149007
I will. Once I'm back from work to know what to ask
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>>563134831
domt you need to destroy bases for that?
i only remember being able to bomb airfields in low toer after destroying all 4 bases, but never in higher tiers
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>>563137357
>join game
>its almost over
>the only useful thing you can do is protect your base
>this makes u a loser
i cringe
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>>563134831
Not anymore no
Eventually bomb targets will respawn, but you can't outright win the game like you used to be able to do
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>>563149537
>the j10 has different air intakes, canard placement, hell even tail
almost as if there's 17 years between the J-9's cancellation and the J-10's first flight, during which they gained access to a wide variety of technologies that didn't just provide the aircraft with more capabilities, but also streamlined the design process with shit like CAD and aerodynamics simulation becoming commonplace
>my point is that the j10 looks a lot more like the Lavi than the j9
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convergent_evolution
only so many ways to do a deltacanard
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>>563149932
>gained access to a wide variety of technologies
like a prototype of the Lavi, yeah
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>>563149932
>only so many ways to do a deltacanard
And yet the Ye-8, Eurofighter Typhoon, Rafale and Gripen all look very different from each other.
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>>563137357
>Enemy top player getting dangerously close to B-52 score
>No ground kills, no bombing done
>Clearly saving for the big one
>Rally the team and three of us scramble
>I spot him first but whiff. Second plane gets him
>Bomber man proceeds to cry in all chat for the remaining ten minutes about how boring and unfair it is to cockblock like that
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>>563150076
They don't really from a top-down view. Same shit in a different toilet.
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>>563147726
Well thats the next plan im going to grind after the J-10A kek
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>>563150073
meds, the most significant assetts they ever got were electronical subsystems they purchased after the lavi project died
>>563150076
>Ye-8
1960's mig-21 bodykit shitbox
>Typhoon
looks quite similar to the Lavi
>Rafale
1980's plane with design work beginning in the 1970's
>Gripen
different mission, also almost a decade older, almost the same as the rafale really
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how do chinkshills even have the stamina for this level of mental gymnastics
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funny that the j-10 can fire pythons



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