lose everything ship edition>Game Info:https://store.steampowered.com/app/3065800/Marathon/>Marathon Game Home Pagehttps://www.marathonthegame.com/>The Entire History of Marathonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu7uN6-lNhk [Open] [Embed] [Open]https://marathon.bungie.org/story/>Play the Original Marathon for Freehttps://store.steampowered.com/app/2398450/Classic_Marathon/Databases:https://tauceti.world/https://tauceti.gg/https://marathonmeta.gg/https://marathondb.gg//vg/ Discord:https://discord.gg/RDy8sPCeKcNews:>RECENT PATCH NOTEShttps://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/marathon_update_1053>SEASONS & ROADMAPhttps://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/introducing_seasons_marathon>MARATHON OST VOL. I & II OUThttps://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n3mqJXB_rxXOGplviv8tGdXtHDdL9grK4https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k_FhqMdjI4UChXwooy0VROM84xgCi8JM0>RANKED DETAILShttps://x.com/TauCetiGG/status/2033929468713308638>CRYO ARCHIVE DETAILShttps://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/cryo_archive_overviewPrevious Run >>562918484
You really didn't need to bother
EoS waiting room
>>563106329He needs to justify his paycheck. Don't be so hard on him.
Raped.
>Cryo is out>Player count flat-lines and goes down at 20k
>>563106698but enough about halo fans
Why did marathon general not tell me about rook runs on pinwheel to outpost? Could this be the way to make money??
>Friends that bought Marathon with me refuse to play Marathon ever again
>>563106708I'm at work right now....
>>563106904Halo Studios isn't in danger of being shut down like Bungie is
>>563106946Same, they only focus on bad runs despite us winning like 60-70% of the time. >BRO WE GET STOMPED BY PURPLE SHIELDS EVERY RAID!!!!Um, maybe like 1/12 raids at the worst
>>563106946My duo and I have been having some fun with it although the ranked grind for the skin is fucking cancer and the schedule change for cryo means he can't play it anymore, outside of that we're having fun in Outpost
>>563106327
opening that underground outpost key 3 mins into raid didnt go so well for that guy.I did almost die thoughbeit>push him, he expects it>he holds off angle while invis, catches me off guard>im 30hp>hear him push, subconsciously already gave up, just toss nade at my feet and switch to shotty>he walks into nade>onepump himI would be SO PISSED
>>563107287I remember seeing a shit ton of "don't shoot, friendly"s around at launchshit was mad gay
>>563107789>Making less money than TF2 in 2026kek
>>563107287>>563107826\pve carebears are psychotic btwhttps://x.com/ArcRaidersInfo/status/2041561000319570041
Is anyone in this thread actually playing the game?
>>563108385Nobody is playing it
>>563108385The vicious cycle has started. I was actually going to get it but I'm genuinely not sure if it will be around for more than a couple of weeks. Bad optics = less sales = bleeding players = bad optics
>>563108385Not right this second since I'm working, but yeah I still play it daily.>>563108948I'm confident it'll be around for the year at least. I don't say that to convince you to play it, I honestly would be kind of worried what it would even be like to progress as a new player at this point.
>>563108173If only Reagan hadn't closed all the psych wards
>>563108948At this point, don't. It's not even clear how much of Bungie is going to be left after July and the layoffs from Sony.
You guys really overdeliver on the doomposting because something like New World cost way more than Marathon and lost 90% of it's playerbase from it's OG launch still lasted 5 years.
>>563108385I did 6 rook runs today while "working" from home. Gonna play with my buddies in a bit. I actually love marathon guys
>>563108385Not really, i am just hear to know when i get my refund and get some good laughs.Lets make betsI say the game will go EoS 2 weeks after first seasonal whipe.
So just how HUGBOXY is Arc raiders? I see the game is doing well but what makes it do well? I prefer playing marathon because the tension feels right for me. I like the unknown feeling of encountering a player, especially in solos. However, is the hugbox carebear posture of arc raiders what keeps people playing? I just find it harder to find the fun in always being safe?
>>563110096Amazon makes way more money than Sony does. Also Amazon isn't losing money in every market they've tried to enter. Sony is selling the fucking Bravia brand, they're doing that bad.
Paul Tassi confirms the game ain't shutting down any time soon
>>563110325You can play it a few times a week after your 9-5 when you're tired and just want to chill. Dying doesn't suck the life out of you like Marathon. I don't play myself, I found it boring as fuck.
>>563110429That's not what he said.
>>563110325Yeah you just gather loot and nothing bad ever happens.>>563110536Yeah, it is
>>563110332Amazon's gaming division has been a net loss for the better part of a decade, they haven't released one product anyone would call successful.
>>563110592>Yeah, it isIt's not
>>563110634They can eat the cost of anything for years, Sony can't.
>>563110637https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2026/04/09/checking-in-on-marathon-a-month-after-launch/Scroll to the bottom retard
>>563110778Not clicking your referall link, Ranjeet. Quote it.
>>563108385are you even reading the thread? I posted a screenshot 5 posts before yours, retarded fag
>>563108173Yeah. It gives them a position of authority and "legitimacy" to decide who lives and dies. It's just like how psychopathic people become policemen and teachers irl
>>563108385waiting in queue...
>>563110825They are mostly heads-down, working on new content, and whatever the case may be, this is not a game that is about to face some sort of imminent shutdown.
>>563110725Considering they cut 14k jobs from their gaming division they obviously can't or don't want to accept those losses anymore. That's why New World is getting shut down next year.
>>563108385I'm having a blast
>>563110961>I can't say for sure but I do not think it's a short window, noHe's speculating https://x.com/PaulTassi/status/2042347919131508812
>>563111204Whatever doombitch get the fuck out of here
>>563111345I accept your concession, Maratroon.
>>563111345NTA, but you do realize Sony but mostly Bungie is in a fight to the death to convince people that the game isn't going to get shut down so that the sales improve? If sales DON'T improve it's not like they're going to keep a promise they didn't actually make
>>563111397It's NOT, shutting down, it's NOT a short window, go back to arc bitch
>>563111505Oh that's a good one, thank you.
>>563111493This is a thread for people who like the game marathon not your pretend shareholder meeting
>>563111656>Numbers don't matter to live service gamesKEK
>>563111748>thing i didn't say
>>563111345uh oh ranjeesh melty
>>563111929Then what's wrong with talking about player counts and revenue? You can't recommend a multiplayer-only game to people with no players in good faith.
>>563112083Go hang out with your gf
>Marathon will be multiplayer game of the year
I'm trans btw if that matters
>>563112119The latest news is that they aren't shutting the game down any time soon and you larping that bungie is in a fight to the death with sony means nothing
Absolutely insane to compare this game to either Concord or Highguard considering Concord died after two weeks and Highguard lost 90% of it's playerbase in maybe 12 hours and languished until it got put down by Tencent.
>>563112350He didn't say that, Chud Tassi thinks it won't shut down in a "short window". That could mean he thinks it won't shut down within 2 months but will shut down before the end of the year.
>>563112381Highguard was a new IP from a new studio, Marathon is an established IP from an established studio and lost 90% of it's players in a month.
>>563112381I put almost 30h in it now, still waddling around first two maps. The game is not bad but it's not good enough to flourish. Harsh truth. It's not likely to pull a Hunt Showdown or Rainbow Six Siege either.
>>5631123505k concurrent by next month
>>563112463Short window is the same as any time soon
>>563112350If you wanted to save Marathon, would you say that the game was going to die at the current pace or would you project false optimism up to the moment it got offed?
>>563112624Depends on your definition but we'll see by July with the Sony earnings call and 2026 Bungie layoffs.
>>563112671Tassi isn't mr false optimism he's been a doomer more than anything
>I'm long hauling my doomcock through the short window to rape marasissies and blast my hot cum up their blast holes
>>563112959ChudPeanut killed this game
Barely holding 20k at east coast primetime is tragic
>>563113421It's at least 15k higher than it should be
Wow I ran into a streamer squad on perimiter, me and my buddies had that key near hauler and were these guys were purple/gold shield FULL SPRINT at us throwing smokes, using signal jammers, sliding, healed up instantly and shot us through the smoke while we were figuring out what the fuck was going on. Holy shit, never seen anything like it. Their aggression nearly made us freeze. idk how they all shot through the smoke either. Thermals? it was weird.
>Perimeter still doesn't have loadout limitsABI mostly solved this
>>563114301when you're a pvp pro, smoke doesn't hide a personthat means you can shoot into smoke, and when your gun registers a hit, you keep shooting that spotthere are thermals too, but that's usually how it goes>look this retard threw a smoke>we know exactly where he is now
anyone at gold rank yet?
>shroud would rather play ready or not than get into cryo weekendyeah no, this is a problem far beyond how hardcore it is. its a problem with the game itself on a fundamental basis.
Enjoy the free kit!https://litter.catbox.moe/nxevnma67q6irkmt.mp4
Is this the volt thrower?
>>563106708We seriously lost 10k players in 5 days lmao
>>563115851V75 Scar
Marathon is cookedPaul Tassi (Forbes): "I can confirm Marathon's budget is over $200m. Likely over $250m. This does not include ongoing costs for maintenance or new content">About two weeks ago, analyst firm Alinea estimated that Marathon had sold around 1.2 million copies across all platforms. I confirmed with my Bungie sources that was close to accurate. Marathon had previously hit #2 on the Steam revenue chart ahead of launch.>Also near-accurate is a 478K daily active user count in its first weekend, though that dropped to 345K more recently. That data is two weeks old, however.>As I previously reported, the majority of Marathon’s playerbase is on Steam, as confirmed by my sources. Alinea reports it as 70%>Marathon did not chart inside Steam’s top 10 at launch. It released with an 88,337 concurrent peak on its largest platform. That is a drop from the 143,621 peak during the free server slam (the game is now $40).>Since launch just over a month ago, those peaks have dropped by 68%, where the game most recently hit a 27,670 peak at the time of this writing.>Marathon is now the 106th most-played game on Xbox. I do not have full PS5 data, though it did chart on its top 10 list at launch. Marathon is 78th in daily active users on Steam at the time of this writing, 82nd in top sellers.
>>563116174Don't care, as long as they put a skeleton crew on it and keep releasing content.If they don't i got my moneys worth.RIP to the bungie employees, but thats how it is on this bitch of an earth.
>>563115919Yeah and cryo isn’t even pumping the numbers up. I anticipated the first sub 20k week to be 2 weeks from now but it might be sooner
>muh player countwell if its the only metric you care about go play dad raiders, plenty of players there!
When can i expect my refund?Want to buy tainted grail with that, and woud like to take some vacation days to play it.
>>563117247I think I'd rather play Gray Zone Warfare
>>563117342They call it gray zone because it's dull
>>563117342I have 8 minutes left for my refund window and idk if I want to commit or not
>>563117453Less dull than Marathon, hence the significantly higher player count.
>>563117342Counter-Strike: Source won, bigly.
>>563117604>taylor swift is the greatest musician of all time
This general is so dead it'll likely end up in /vm/ soon lol
>>563117686She's really good but I prefer Ye
>>563117695I dunno, at least one guy seems to be chart posting so constantly that we'll never die.
>>563117686We have officially entered the food/music analogies stage
>endgame map with a buy in fails to account for people cheesing into it with basically no loadout by filling up their inventory with random trash Why are Bungie so retarded in aspects like this? Shouldn't that be the first thing you account for? Just make it only count equipped gear for the buy in so you force people to actually use their stuff.https://x.com/MarathonArchive/status/2042379120760504701
>>563117805Good for Ye
>>563117842We entered the food analogy thing a few weeks ago with that Tom Henderson faggot
reminder the 20k currently are a mix of actual players and botted accountst. the gook at bungie actually managing the bot accounts
>22k players
>25k players
>>563110961>this is not a game that is about to face some sort of imminent shutdown.True, this is more of an Anthem playbook situation. Gradually delay and skim down each season more and more and then quietly EOS after the press cycle moved on to other targets to save sony some face.
>>563110961In it for the LONG HAUL
>Cryo run 1>have to mute one nigger cause there's some baby laughing in the background constantly>The other one doesn't talk>Teammates and I fumble around the whole match and only get clearance 3 during the final minutes>Hit our exfil and ditch with 30 seconds left but at least we got some loot>Cryo run 2>Everyone is talking and on point>avoid fights and solve a vault>Some destroyer pushes us>He bubbles>We bubble>Vent out the back of the vault like a bunch of sussy faggots>Exfil without a hitchSo how's everyone's cryo runs today?
>>563117945could you at least turn off your open mic when your gook baby is crying in the back?
>>563119385I've never seen an exfil in Cryo
Destinybros we are fucking WINNING, Destiny 3 soon brothers we just need to keep on burying Troonathon.
>>563120187The Raped
>>563120187>AI Anime pfp
Is Paul arguably the worse Marathon anti? The guy seems hellbent on smear campaign againt Bungie.
>>563120756And even he had to admit the game isn't shutting down soon
Yeah this weapon is hot trashhttps://litter.catbox.moe/s3i938.mp4
>>563120756He's one of the biggest Bungie shills in the media, what the fuck are you talking about?
>>563120187>even aisloppers gachafags are dunking on maratroonsgrim
I mean I play in NA but my queue times are never that long even at 6 am
>>563120805He didn't say that
>>563120956Maybe there is SBMM in Marathon
>>563120956>Yeah this weapon is hot trashnice aim, lol.
>>563121001He's a butthurt destiny doomer
>>563121020>dunkingmaybe if you're 12 and this is a school yard
>>563121190How? He said he was so excited for Marathon to launch that he was going to buy every skin on day 1 and he did.
>>563121305THE RAPED
>>563121340I can't find a source on that
>>563121530He said it on twitter
Oh boy, spawn rush archives
>>563118004>>563118145I just checked. It's real. Holy shit, how embarrassing.
>>563108385bought it today, it's fun ig. getting into lobbies takes about 2 minutes but that's time i can use to read the general
>Paul Tassi suggests that Marathon might not be in a good spot>DOOMER DOOMER HE'S A OBSESSED DESTINY FANBOY DOOMERThis attitude, alongside these constant breakdowns and melties because people are not sucking this game's cock 24/7 is part of the reason the game is on a death spiral only 1 month from release, btw.It is never productive or healthy to be this defensive and constantly try to tiptoe around the issues the game might have, only because "the doomers said so, so I have to be against it."It's okay to be negative. Ignoring every single issue while going "LA LA LA CAN'T HEAR YOU" doesn't make the issues suddenly go away
>>563122191Toxic positivity is what killed Destiny, let it kill Marathon and Bungie too.
>erm actually just because I'm an alarmist doesn't mean you can ignore my warnings! You'll be sorry someday!
>>563121020>even aisloppers gachafags are dunking on maratroonsI knew it from the start.Only the autistic AGP's spam about games they've never played.
Paul mogs you faggots
Rewatching the official behind the scenes video to see how it holds up, it’s irritating we didn’t get a your guys situation(all the art mock ups of the not hero chars)and the talk with the “get the artifacts to get a bigger artifact”, what a fucking mess that sounded like it would be, “somebody has to open it up for everybody”. If I had to guess there probably was some absurd degrees of playtesting that tore so much of this shit down and they hit a wall releasing nobody would have tolerance for that. It feels insane how much differed. And now things are fried
>>563123435That vidoc makes me sad, being able to build your own runner would have fixed the game.
>>563122191Paul also has been on a fucking roll for the past 2 years. He definitely knew something was up with Year of Prophecy scam at least with Edgers and then he had very tight intel for Marathon that proved right. People can hate but the guy called a lot of stuff
>>563123597>>563122567>>563123597We all know it's you buddy
>>563123597He's been calling that Shadow and Order delay forever now too and even gave the right time frame when people were speculating it'd be april. He knew it was going to may at the earliest and it's fucking june kek
>>563123531The “visually represent yourself in interesting ways” bit :/ that chick that said that and a lot of people in that room have been long axed
>Effortlessly rapes Bungie, Marathon, and /mg/ to deathHow does he do it?
Well, Forbes just confirmed that Marathon cost $250 Million to make.Throw in marketing and you are close to 400-450 million by AAA standards.Concord was also $200 Million to make. so another 400.Sony isn't going to shut down Marathon because execs would look really stupid losing nearly a billion dollars to hero and extraction shooters twice in a row.But this is a unmitigated disaster.In what world do extraction shooters cost 200M to make? All of Destiny 1 was 185M in adjusted dollars, and that was a huge game.Budgets in AAA are obviously out of whack, and it was during Covid that team sizes ballooned for no good reason except the money was flowing.They expected the returns and growth to keep going, it never did. Covid demand was a peak, not a trend, driven by lockdowns (bored people played games) and stimulus money.AAA studios must downsized and do so quickly. AA and Indie games have shown you can deliver superior returns for 1/10 to 1/20th the cost. But more than that, it's time to listen to the chuds if AAA wants to survive.
>>563123935tassi said it was 200 million total, if it was 400 million with marketing he would have said that
>>563124436He said he could only confirm $200M, he thinks it's at least $260M
>DEAD GAME DOA LOOK AT THOSE CHARTS MARATHON IS NOT POPULAR>okay but the game is actually very good and most players like it, so why don't you give it a ch->OH NO NO YOU CAN'T BE TOXIC POSITIVE WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE NUMBERS GAME IS DEAD OKAY? LET'S JUST NOT PLAY MARATHON TOGETHER OKAY???the sad part is that it works because the average gamer is less autonomous than V11-wielding UESC bot
>>563124803This post is doomer 9/11
>>563124803>and most players like it,>sub 30k peaks barely a month after launch>lost over half its player base>most players like itactions speak louder than words and the fact that a majority of people dropped this slop shows they did not in fact like it
Game is fun when you're actually playing it
>>563122191Yeah, that's definitely the problem, way too much positivity about Marathon. Every post in this thread is just so fucking positive, it's like you're not even allowed to say anything negative, and that's a problem, no, THE problem.
>The Maratroon is immunized against all dangers: One may call him a faggot, twitterfag, marasissy, bungie employee, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But show him a steam chart and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: 'I’ve been found out."
just ran into some actual niggers running wallhacks in cryo, this shit is actually over
Can't Bungie just recoup their losses by going hard into micro-transactions?
>>563123935When you end up remaking the game several time from scratch because you have little idea what you actually want to do with it...
>>563125218Who would want to buy micro-transactions for a dead game with nothing to do but get raped by cheaters?
>>563125202As long as they stick to pve, I'm fine with people cheating.
Can't decide between playing Marathon and Gray Zone
>>563125783Flip a coin
>>563125020It's better than shartkov and Hunt.Maybe if they had an aggression based MMR it would've retained more players instead of people getting raped until they quit.
>>563125783Play gay's own
It's insane just how many fucking people are completely mind broken by Destiny 2.You faggots have got to get a life, holy shit.
I mainly just like it for the art and stuffDrawing marathon stuff for me is often more fun than playing
>>563125783Gray Zone is more populated and actually has PVE, if you want it. Go with that.
Why aren't the Destinyfags just playing that Destiny mobile game? I heard it was good a few months ago.
>>563126012That's cool it's a big tent
>>563125958>reddit spacing
Maybe don't release a live service game for 40$ in a market dominated by free games like Marvel Rivals and Overwatch next time idk
>>563126132pve hands typed this
>>563126172Neither of those offer anything I want though
>>563126172Overwatch is so fucking good, they should have just made Marathon a regular hero shooter and not an extraction hero shooter.
>>563126297Nah, it would've ended up like Nosgoth
>>563126863It would be more popular than Marvel Rivals if it was decent.
>>563126946Marvel Rivals is free and overrun by thirdies and children F2P games are shit
>>563127294They're less shit than Marathon, look at the player counts and steam top sellers.
im going to be real /mg/, they are going to have to pivot this whole thing into something else in season 3 otherwise this game is going into maintenance mode (Fortnite did it) >>563126297arena shooter maybe
Honestly, I only bought Arc Raiders to piss you faggots off. I haven't even played it.
Arc Raiders poisoned the well.
We are literally in the middle of the WoW-ification of the genre, there's no coming back from Arc releasing. Sure there will be some games that come out that still attempt to maintain the original design ethos while iterating in their own ways, but now the genre will irrevocably drift towards just being a more casual PvE experience.
>CyAc contract requires a bunch of specific UESC kills in a single run>run all the way to Airfield, AWAY from Pinwheel, AWAY from major loot>run down the clock to 8 minutes before even shooting anything>TWO (2(dos)) DIFFERENT PLAYERS fucking beeline right over as I'm waiting for the Commander to spawn>just sit in a corner hoping they don't notice me>eventually they leave, think one shot the other as well>kill my commander>actually live to make it to final exit for whatever it was worthJesus fucking christ how does anyone even open keys solo? I was just doing a simple contract
>open thread to see in-game screenshots and video captures>nothing but numbers fags and doomsayersAlright then.
>>563127915And marathon cleansed it
>>563125020>oh no people no longer nolife it 12 hours a day like on releaseThere's no actual information on player retention %, Steamchart slop literally does not contain this information, it only counts the amount of hours game is running. Marathon doesn't have daily grind like most games so you can expect less flat play hours at different stages of season. Also, a game with strong honeymoon period will literally look worse in terms of chart slop.User score is equal to Arc Raiders and miles ahead of other extraction shooters (was even higher before the doom&gloom). By all objective metrics the game is one of the best in its class, and the success is held back solely by unemployed Destiny rape victims scaring the normalfags away
>>563128197This is what happens when developers want an idea to have more mainstream appeal. They make it more casual friendly.The games for hyperautists never went anywhere, you know.
>>563128480>There's no actual information on player retention %,How does one get this much copium?
https://x.com/i/status/2042335606227845140This is genuinely the dumbest thing Ive ever seen. You can down 3 players and still lose because you cant finish them fast enough solo before they all 3 self res. Sugi literally lost the fight by winning the fight? Wtf kind of dumbass logic is that??
>>563128606Tarkov managed to hold on to its player base far longer than Marathon bro. Maybe the game just sucks?
>>563128884Knife nerf working as intended, should've brought ammo for three people if you want to do a proper squad wipe. Skill issue.
>>563128884vandel had i frames
>>563129070The fact that there's any iframes on a self-revive at all is fucking retarded.
Is there any good Marathon fanart?None of you faggots ever post images. What if I wanted to see the spiky haired girl in a bikini?
>>563129658>Is there any good Marathon fanart?No>None of you faggots ever post images.It all sucks>What if I wanted to see the spiky haired girl in a bikini?That's for chuds
>>563129658
>>563128734So, where's the information?
>>563127527>spends his money>to piss US offmind brokenlollmao
i need a good hacking client
>>563127527Was the censor thing real or made up?
>>563130406Real
>>563129870>yuriFuck yeah
ez 26k today
>>563130930>Cryo opening easily cleared Monday numbers the last two weeks>now it can't even beat Tuesday numbersIf next week's update is bad, it's so fucking over.
>>563131297I am immune to doom posting
Using supply drops as bait is so nasty when playing as Assassin.
>Run Cryo full kit >Get two teammates that have mics>They're both high>Oh boy here we go>Wipe lobby to my surprise>One of them grabs a Cryo key>"Ayoooo I've never done a vault before let's do it after this run">Reluctant to team up and try, but we did pretty well last run so I queue up>We all watch a guide on doing the vault mid-game>Wipe the map again>Clear the vault>Mfw did my first successful vault run with some random dudebros high off their assMost fun I've had in a FPS in a long time Maybe I will be able to reach Compiler.
https://x.com/i/status/2042350713691336755Funcom figured this shit out. Why can't Bungie?
Here's what I think they'll do>F2P up to a certain level with only access to Perimeter>make seasonal wipe optional for increased gains next season>implement ABMM>Cryo available full-time with solo queue>PvE queues with reduced/lower tier loot This will all be implemented and advertised for S2 with a new set of ads showing all the glowing journo reviews. Future plans will include a series of short campaign-like missions for story, customizable characters where you choose your own abilities, and new enemy types.
Cryo Archive feels genuinely oppressive right now. I don't know how they fix this but the matchmaking seems so out of control for higher season level people. Yes "git gud", "its endgame" etc etc but these are the sorts of things that make the potentially long term Marathon players (and therefore customers) fall off hard. Right now its just teams of hardcore players running around with the sole objective of stopping people from actually experiencing the vaults and then the compiler.I don't think the actual map and its AI need to be changed but something about the matchmaking has to. If they want to keep people hooked, they need to feel that the complier kill is achievable because right now its miserable for many who aren't playing this game for 8 hours a day. No I don't think a PvE version is the answer at all.
>>563131563supply drops are good for ranked you can get 3k+ from one
>Co-Evolution 2, yet again.>Doing it with 1 friend because the other is out tonight>finally get a lucky spawn at Bio-Research, reach Quarantine, inject simbiont, move to Maintenance and finally get lucky enough to see a squad running by that doesn't see us.>Charge up and headshot with an Ares on a destroyer - oh look he has purple shields>down him with light arms fire, about to finish him with another railgun shot, his friend bubble shields>my friend gets oneshotted by an Outland because we're only blue shield plebs, railgun that guy in the head - purple shields yet again>Second destroyer that threw the bubble shield charges with his shied out, throw a grenade in his path - purple shields>Outland sniper already back, hit another railgun headshot, he's still alive, apparently panacea kit'd between the last time he got hit>Destroyer reaches my position and mops me up with his ult.What did you fuckers misclick and accidentally spawn Dire Marsh instead of Cryo? Why is this the only fucking thing I can find here? Next run we didn't even reach Quarantine because some purple/blue squad with snipers ran us down near west gate.
>>563132237Ranked seems like cock n ball torture in the framework of an extraction shooter.
>>563131584
>>563132086>Right now its just teams of hardcore players running around with the sole objective of stopping people from actually experiencing the vaults and then the compiler.If you want to do compiler, it's a priority to clear the map of other teams so you're not interrupted.
>>563132084>F2P up to a certain level with only access to PerimeterThis is pretty much what Battleborn tried to do as far as I remember andWellYou now remember Battleborn
>>563132084Wow, the Evolve Stage 2 strategy! LET'S GO!!!
>>563132582BADASS
>There are retards in this thread that think F2P will save Marathon and not just buy it an extra month before EOS
F2P will unironically ruin the game since the Chinese cheaters will multiply. Cheating is already really bad, imagine if the game was free. I don’t think we’d even see any pop bonus considering the server slam was depopulated after the first day lol
>no games foundit's over...
>>563132582>>563132743Yeah it's a desperate route to go down, but what else do they do.
>>563133541They fix the game and make it not suck to play
>>563133576That would entail shifting the genre away from an extraction loop, which I don't see happening
>>563133773There's somewhere between 850-1200 at the company, some people can figure it out before the layoffs. Prison of Elders for Destiny 1 was made by only 6 people.
>>563132582I swear modern game devs have no idea how to do demos like in old shareware games. The cutoff timing is everything. The demo should end after a brief taste of the good stuff (a few randomly found purple items) and when more is just around the corner. Which in Marathon's case should be after approx 3 trial runs of Outpost. When you are just about to figure out the way to pinwheel or have maybe been there a few times but didn't manage to bring anything back yet. That's when the demo is over.Though, Marathon's early game filter is so hard right now that you need a bit of the sunken cost fallacy of having bought the game to carry you through the hard phase. Dire Marsh is not a great hook.
Arc Raiders raped Marathon into submission, nobody is talking about making Arc F2P.
>>563133773It has to be full loot and no MM okay it just has to or its not an extraction shooter they're all full loot and none have matchmaking and they all lost 70% of their playerbase in one month its just the way it is.
>>563132428Sounds like an absolutely faggot retard way to design a game
>>563131584No one cares you worthless queer
>>563134374Yeah no shit
So I'm banned from deadlock until tomorrowshould i play this again? how are numbers doing?
>Be level 59>Can't play much, but have decent skill>All the sweats and no lifers are quarantined with each other in matchmaking while I'm having chill Cryo runsLmao get fucked.
>>563134781I'm 52, was this the play the whole time?
>>563134509Jealous that I'm having a blast?
oh look it's another >assassin wins because despite not being invisible at all his cloak disables Volt Thrower/SCAR entirelyhow fun
>>563133040a big reason the industry is in such a bad state is that retards like Ziegler don't get immediately blacklisted by every single company after fucking up and releasing a fucking flop. Most of the time, they just end up landing a job at another company to repeat the processI guarantee you some of the biggest names who worked on some of the biggest flops went on to work for other companies
>>563134712>how are numbers doing?
>>563123935>In what world do extraction shooters cost 200M to make?In the magical wonderland of Seattle.
I don't even want pve in this game, the ai is too boring for that. I want a low stakes pvp mode to practice and test weapons in.
>>563135437oh wow, watching it back I think I've found the one fucking thing mini-jammer works on. It's still bugged because the lock-on for the volt thrower was still active while not functional and got me killed, but at least it kind of makes sense.>no lock at first because he's cloaked despite that being retarded due to him being plainly visible>after hitting him, lock works, but he starts aiming down sights and procs mini-jammer>mini-jammer prevents lock on, even though there is still a visual lock for me, baiting me into taking more shots and dying
>>563136665A firing range?
>>563132084F2P should have access to outpost, just not cry and ranked.
>>563137302Yeah, something like that. Anything to warm up and get a better feel for weapons and positioning and shit without slamming my head against matchmaking over and over again with free kits
>>563137445Yeah
>>563108385I preordered the collectors edition and am wondering if I can return it on steam if I haven't played it yet. Never tried to return a game on steam I haven't played.
i did a vault with randoms bros, it was pretty fun is sec level 5 gained from killing the entire lobby?
>>563132084they aren't doing any of this btw
>>563108385I played Marathon for almost 70 hours so far, but haven't launched it in a few days. I have loads of other games to play, so I have been doing that. Might play on the weekends, but will definitely come back for the next week's midseason update, provided it's meaningful.
>>563110325>So just how HUGBOXY is Arc raiders?
Is next week the CARRI Event, whatever that is?
>>563129070Actually it's because the sekiguchi increased down timer is just increased HP in the down state.So the knife nerf made it so their melee didn't kill them in one hit.Superb change.
>>563138127Yeah, and midseason balancing, which should buff Vandal/Recon.
>>563106708fake news
>>563108385Taking a little break because I got cummed on by the toxgun by a gold shield in cryo and I'm a little upset :(
>>563138183Alright cool
>>563125164it's just fatigue at this point, everyone already knows the numbers are bad. the chartniggers are like climate activists spamming people's feeds with news about doom every day
>>563137769>I pre ordered a game and never played itWhy?And you better get on that; they deny refunds based on time after purchase, too.I bought an absolute slop title surroundead, it's just a shitty asset flip that 1 to 1 copies state of decay2 but far lazier that thirdies praise because they can actually run it and they told me to fuck off because I forgot to send in the refund request until 4 weeks later.
Paul Tassi begrudgingly admits that Marathon is not headed for an imminent shutdown, you gotta love it
Is there tox clear on the non-perimeter maps? I genuinely don't remember.
>>563127440I know this sounds like a cope but just hear me out.They spent 250 million fucking dollars making this shit. If you add up all the sales from every other First person extraction shooter it still wouldnt cover the cost of making the game. There just isnt an audience for this.The game isnt really dying, its a success amongst its peers. The problem is its a 250 million dollar game... they spent 250 million dollars making something that presumably isnt even close to finished.Even if they increased the active player count by a quadruple it wouldnt matter. This castle was built upon sand.The game is fun, its honestly the most casual first person extraction shooter out on the market. Switching gears from making it an extraction shooter to being full on dad gamer/china gamer slop isnt going to unfuck the 250 million dollar production problem. This thing will never stand on its own two legs.
>>563139467yeah there's one on dire marsh
>>563108385Yeah, but I'm taking a break until S2. I just feel like ive ran out of shit to do and I'm not interested in bashing my head against the wall called Cryo. Ranked is also so fucking ratty it's just not fun.
>>563108385I'm here to watch the car crash, like I was when I was in Highguard General.
>>563139471>If you add up all the sales from every other First person extraction shooter it still wouldnt cover the cost of making the game.You're overselling it a bit.EFT sold a million copies within the first month of it's 1.0 release and has been consistently popular since covid, realistically it probably sold at least 2-3x as much not including the bigger than $50 versions.Hunt has sold around 10 million copies and even assuming it was at sales price of $10 and 0 DLC purchased you're still looking at half of marathons budget.
>>563140120At this point it's more like watching a car slowly run out of gas. Also that is genuinely very sad.
>>563139471250 million was spent on development. Development is ongoing so add millions thereAdd a hundred million for marketing Add server maintenance Lol
>>563140417>Genuinely sad.You're on 4chan. What did you expect? Maybe reddit is more to your speed.
>>563108385doing trios with my homies. had some good cryo runs earlier too.
>>563137328No one's gonna pay $40 just to access cryo and ranked.
>complete a run >Come here and drop one of my prewritten doomposts>queue back into match
skin all runners, cutely
I actually fucking hate that tick nests see you through invisibility, I just fucking died because I got exposed by one and the other person saw me.
>>563142780Ticks don't have eyes anon. They aren't using vision to find you.
>>563142840Isn't it a thermal cloak?
>>563142780To be fair, you deserve it for playing Assassin.
>>563143041Sniff sniff assassin i can smell you
>Outpost trios>Hear someone in the opposite airfield hanger>Tell my buddies to get high ground>someone pops out of the vent and we dome them>2nd person comes out the vent and knocks my friend>get a flank and down the enemy thief in the vent>chase after them and knife them before they could self revive>their third ran away scared>they had a yellow on them so we hit up an armory>infil with greens, exfil with purplestoday was a good day.
Do NuCal crates have a chance to give Biolens Seeds?
>>563145048yeah
Cryo is lit tonight. hit up two vaults and wiped two teams.
Am I weird for really liking the stock scope on the Longshot?
>>563145048after VIP they're fairly common, before that I don't think it's possible? maybe rare for 21-30
>>563110429"Any time soon" means like a concordian timeline. The game goes when sony says.
>>563126297The original, quasi MMO, with a continous world that people jump into and out of on missions, some of which conflict concept was better. Too bad that dude got metooed.>>563125556LOL.
>when our triage throws me a med drone
>>563110429I absolutely believe they won't shut the game down soon. It's just way too much PR damage, it's better to just cut the game down to a minimal staff quickly and accept it wasting money for a couple years while hoping it somehow has a resurgence.But I do absolutely expect them to cut the game down to a minimal staff soon.
>>563128480>There's no actual information on player retention %,Because the charts were in steady decline even with new sales, we know that they were fucking ass.>>563130169The old destiny ones work.
>>563132086>Right now its just teams of hardcore players running around with the sole objective of stopping people from actually experiencing the vaults and then the compiler.That is literally as intended. You should just unintsall if you can't hang.
>>563133852They metooed and lost those employees. They don't have people anymore who can do that.
>>563145968post loadout
>>563133852>850-1200 at the companyWhat the fuck are they even doing there, if after 5-6 years they release 4 maps with 6 PvE enemies? Must be pic related
>>563146361your rank with factions affects what kind of loot drops you get?
>needed to kill one more guy for this traxus quest>skulking around station in that entryway to drone storage >hear movement>sit still for two minutes>don't hear anything anymore>go invis and walk out to the main area>start getting shot in my side>flick and two tap the guy sitting there from like 7m with my WSTR since he was a freekit>dipThank pal... you were just enough for me to level up...
If you and two friends were robbing a bank and in the middle of the heist a homeless guy with a shotgun came up and said he wanted to help out and wasn’t going to be any troubleWhat would you do
>>563148949Bully and wstr
>>563149461Bungie isn't soley a game dev, at least internally at Sony. They are also a market expertise group that have/had? considerable sway in Sony does and doesn't continue to bankroll.TLoU2's multi getting canned was in part due to Bungie saying that it would not be worth continuing development and it was not currently worth pushing out the door. I agree with them on that btw but Bungie originating personnel are also responsible for Concord so they aren't that good at their jobs.
How do I make money in this game? I hover between 30k-50k
why is the sound in this game so fucking weird. i couldn't hear a destroyer at full sprint 2 meters away from me
>>563151326he was on his tippy toes
>wipe a team on outpost>they had conveyance request>go up and clean the place out>hear another team coming up pinwheel>leave through command vents>hear a rook hopping around underneath the ventsorry bud lol.
After 80 hours of playing i had my first friendly interaction with an enemy player.>he's shooting someone getting the far out red key card>I start shooting them too>he starts shooting me>I poke out and tea bag>he tea bags in response>we both shooting the red key guy and I leave because im just looking for a fucking ammo box for my contract
>>563151326have you tried wearing headphones?
Man I just loaded into Outpost on a solo kit to measure distance for some dumb mapping I'm doing, I did not expect to run into a purple shield 1 minute into the run.
>>563151483i am, i think they're probably just garbage
>>563151326Sound propagation is kind of weird right now, especially because they already were fucking around with gunshot report distances. I was upstairs in that office area in Station once and heard someone walking that sounded like they were immediately to the right on the same floor but I knew it was impossible because there was only walkways to my immediate right. They don't make the same sound as walking on concrete.
>>563107789>250m for a game that was clearly rushed out in a just a bit more than a yearjust how many times did they remake it? I have heard from unverified sources that it was in super dev hell and changed genres like 3 times
>>563151747the sound I always get way too loud is the player death sound and thief drones being activated.It's nice to know that someone has died but man I have no fucking idea if it's within 20m or 200 sometimes. Like I've heard the death sound from intersection all the way in complex.
i am so fucking tired of running to bio and then quarantine
>>563151585did bro forget to pull the trigger or what? looked like he was holding a wstr.
>>563153279he shot once and missed apparently, there was one shell missing when I equipped it
>>563149735yes, 21-30 should always give blue and green salvage though I maybe gotten the odd purple, i cant remember
>>563151239outpost as rook or solo queue free kit
>>563136996Nah it's just the volt thrower being absolute dogshit against lateral movement. One of the best weapons to have against people pushing you though. Did you know you can get its weight down to 5%, lower than a kitted out v11 (8%)?
why are the servers in this game so much worse than destiny 2?
just played 1 hour of aimlabs, time to put my skills to the test
I hate trying to look up cool fanart only to be bombarded with yurislop.
>>563159384this is a hardcore extraction shooter generalthere's no place for your sissy "fanart" here
>>563159610Bungie shouldn't have made the shells so sexy then
>>563159384sorry chuddie but transbians rule the fanart of any game nowadays
>>563159610I just want my badass Destroyer art Anon...
>>563159905It sickens me to my core. Anytime there's two girl characters in a game they come crawling out of the woodwork. Doomers wish they could ragebait me as much as yuritroons could.
>>563160462>soulless>soul
>>563160517This but unironically.Left looks like plagiarism of doomguy x gundam.Right looks like utter shit but at least it feels fresh and unique.
>>563160582I think default Destroyer looks pretty alright but it's just his exposed mouth that makes it all look silly. I get the whole idea of the parallel between his armor and the Mjolnir armor but man that mouth looks silly.
>>563160462Greeblers deserve the rope.
>>563159879>>563160462Half the characters in this game are Concord-tier designs, but no one wants to admit it.
>>563160989Huge fan that the entire reason his mouth is out is because some HR drone in muh lore thought that the Destroyer Shell needed a human element for people to connect with and not be too scary.This being the riot-suppression shell with inbuilt missile launchers and a naturally aggressive personality matrix that got banned from official UESC riot control use because they kept obliterating protestors.
>>563161226I never read about the face guard change, that's actually pretty cool and changes things quite a bit.
"My darling runner...my dear child...">In a single run:>Inject glass shards into your veins>Dip your eyeballs in acid>Set yourself on fire and extract
>>563140224I think maybe you might be overselling it a bit.
>>563162617Tarkov has its own launcher, retard
>>563162508>S3 roadmap releases>Scraps the whole game and becomes a nona dating simulator where you do exceedingly harder tasks to earn her praise>100k CCU on chartsBungie... please... it's the only way...
>>563162508OF COURSE NONAGLORY TO SEKIGUCHIGLORY TO TUMMY
>get continuously dumpstered by full gold shields disinjector rape squads in cryo>every time down one with my shotgun the other two just immediately rush and gank me or grenade spam me to death>burn through all my decent gear, now even less chance of being able to do anything>empty my vault>run out of wstrs and blue shields in the armory>physically can't play anymore because i can't meet the gear ante>hardstuck at level 90 because i literally can't progress at all with fill crews, solo and rook is extremely boring and gives no xpwhat the actual fuck were they thinking with this game
og doomprophet
does loot from lockboxes vary depending on map?
Is the mid season event really in cryo? I haven't even played that map yet
>>563168259The event is that they're paying streamers again to carry new players through it.
>unload a misriah shot point blank into the back of a thief's skull that I snuck up on in cryo>2m away from her>this doesn't instantly kill her despite every pellet connecting>follow it up with a punch that connects>have a melee stat of 100>this doesn't down her>she turns around instantly and dumps two wstr rounds into me and downs me instantlysorry but what the fuck
>Crimson Desert is getting massive updates and requested features seemingly every week>We have to wait until at least June to see if there are any changes made
>>563168794The idea that anyone likes or was excited for Crimson Desert was a psyop
>>563163237Only if there's a Vulcan route too>I have been authorized to offer you sexual intercourse in lieu of monetary compensation. Please note that Traxus is not liable for any ensuing pelvic damage. Please note that Traxus's medical plan does not cover pelvic damage.
>>563169165I like it and was excited for it. You just live in a Bungie bubble and don't know about other games.
>>563169356I'm only in this general for fanart I don't give a shit about Bungie
>>563168481>using misriah over wstr, everyou done fucked up
>>563169165I was excited for it but not on launch excited. More in a year or two when it's discounted and maybe got some DLC.
counterstrike btfo
>>563169742>queuing up with those faggots from the 5th dimension again>every time they try to get on the comms my eyes and ears bleed from sounds too much for the human form to contain.>they still fucking freekit
If you want reliable hacks use makima.cx that’s what I’m using. You have to pay to use the hack temporarily though, it’s Jewish as fuck. If anyone has a better free hack client lmk
>>563162747Youre telling me that at 1.0 release, just a few months ago that millions and millions of players decided to buy Tarkov through battle state games instead of Steam the worlds largest distributor? Anon, you are a fucking moron.
>>563170252Tarkov has been for sale on it's own launcher since 2017, retard. Hardly anyone owns it on Steam.
>>563169497I thought it was supposed to be the best shotgun cause the range means you can actually use it when people are trying to bully melt you?
>>563169342>he wants to bang Traxus IVnot that I blame you, her voice is very much ASMR inducing and if she told me to bark I would
>>563170415>>563140224>EFT sold a million copies within the first month of it's 1.0 release>Tarkov has been for sale on it's own launcher since 2017You can actually hear this retard shifting the goal posts.Yes anon, im sure a game that's been out for a FUCKING DECADE has more sales than a game thats been out 30 fucking days, but that doesnt mean it has more players. They ban around 10,000 players a month for cheating, repeat offenders inflate sales.https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikestubbs/2024/03/15/escape-from-tarkov-has-banned-over-33000-cheaters-in-two-months/
>>563136996I think regardless of signal jammer or invis, volt thrower locks on once a bullet actually hits.
>>563171032>redditspacingIf the Steam version of Tarkov, that barely anyone has, has more players than Marathon; then it's safe to assume that Tarkov has significantly more players than Marathon overall. I know you're a Bungie shill but this is just sad.
>>563169995>queue into cryo fills with a key>"let's get this vault done boys i wanna unlock compiler">of course i got matched with some fucking s'pht'flake>he starts seething "erm he's literally enslaved, why don't you try freeing him instead of just stealing his loot like a rat, compiler is a slur btw">call him a faggot>he lets out this autistic screeching noise and my game immediately crashes>when i log back in i'm season level -777yeah i'm done with this game until they give dimensions their own servers
>>563171261> it's safe to assume that Tarkov has significantly more players than Marathon overall.Okay??? That was never my argument.Bungie spent 250 million making marathon.Lets say Hunt, Tarkov, and all the other extraction shooters all collectively sold 8 million copies. Let's say those same 8 million people all bought a copy of marathon.Steam's standard revenue deal is 30%.and at 40 dollars a copy bungie would still need to sell an additional 26 million dollars worth of in game cosmetics to get it's investment back.>I know you're a Bungie shill but this is just sad.Stop being a retarded chimp.
shotguns are honestly just the worst part of this gameall of my deaths are just to shotguns at this pointeven the grenade spam is more tolerable than getting in a fight with a destroyer who has a wstr since I know even if I get the jump on him if he can come within 30m of me he can just>dash>*BANG BANG*and I'm downed in 0.3 seconds flat even with the best shields in the game
>>563172412what do you mean you don't like the thing you paid for
>>563171452>report guy who clearly has walls>get an email back>turns out these 6th dimension faggots can see 4 seconds into the futureThen maybe give them their own servers then you fucking retards?This is why this game is dying
>queue into cryo with fills>2 grey shields who dump a bunch of shit on the ground right off the batdo these "people" just expect to always get carried no matter what?
>>563172520Catch one(1) team off guard and you're sitting pretty
>>563172520>tfw 2-out-of-5 of my cryo games tonight my fill team mates brought cryo keys>got my first 2 subroutines by just helping them kill playerspraying you get the luck I got at some point nonny
It doesn't sound like you guys are having a blast
>>563172662you can't really do that in Cryo unless you get lucky with the keycards and everyone knows what they are doingalso do you expect retard freeloaders to actually win vs a kitted purple/gold shield team?
everyone left playing this game is such a sweaty faggot it's so boring
>>563172839Whoever casts the first set of grenades wins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9LezMRwS4gLEFT POCKET FULL OF PINK FIFTIES, RIGHT POCKET GOT BLUES IN IT (BEEP, BEEP, BEEP)PLUG SEND THEM PACKS TO ME, I KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH IT (BRRT)THOUSAND-DOLLAR SHOES, I'M WALKIN' ON A DAMN OUNCE (NIGGA)HE AIN'T RUNNIN' UP A BAG, HE RUNNIN' HIS DAMN MOUTH (PUSSY)I'M MR. SWANG A DOOR (YEAH), MR. BEAT THE ROAD (YEAH)TWO THOUSAND ON A COAT (NIGGA), STEPPIN' ON THEY THROAT (NIGGA)I'M MR. RIDE FOREIGN (RIDE FOREIGN), I'M MR. AIN'T GOIN' (NO)HE MR. PUMP FAKER, I'M MR. POT SCRAPER
>>563172346Bungie got purchased for far more iirc
>>563162617What is this meant to prove?Are chart fags actually mentally disabled?You do realize lifetime sales is a different metric than concurrent players, yeah?
>>563127369Literally all mtx
>>563172851I mean, it's going exactly as predicted>casuals/dad gamers/whatever get turned off by the winner-takes-it-all progression system>wstr/sniper abusers congeal into stacks>cheating is absolutely rampant>and if that's not enough console players with their aimbots get put into lobbies along with PC players>play for 20 minutes to get 1tapped while you could have played 30 rounds of CS already>3 small maps and another that opens only for a couple daysthis game appeals only to an extreme niche of people, Bungie must have been smoking some really strong stuff when they thought this would be their big blockbuster
>>563170425okay for starters, have you ever shot the misriah at a wall? unless its point blank I dont think you are doing yourself ANY favours trying to aim for the head. if ALL pellets connect its only an extra 20 damage.second of all its all about ttk. the wstr can kill any shield up to 7m in 300ms.the misriah in best case scenario takes like 600ms. sure you could in theory 2 tap someone at like 12m out but those 5ms are literally gapped instantly and bubble fights are always like sub5m range too so.
>>563172996lol yeah even more crazy when you think about it longer. Billions spent acquiring a company due to Destiny 2 and the promise of marathon.This shit was rigged from the start, it never had a a chance. Deranged destiny fags who are constantly posting steam charts are just wasting their breath, but its not like they have anything else better to do now that Destiny is absolutely fucking dead and never coming back.
>>563169342Vulcan feels like the kind of AI that covers your mouth before jerking you off
>>563173334>>cheating is absolutely rampantI havent played in a week, but in the 150 hours i played I only ever encountered one person I suspected was cheating, we still managed to kill him and his team. I dont journo scum and I definitely dont trust the faggot who first made this claim.
>>563173119>You do realize lifetime sales is a different metric than concurrent players, yeah?>EFT sold a million copies within the first month of it's 1.0 releaseWhich one is it dumb fuck?
>>563173876no one cares about your antidote-all evidence
>>563174238Where is your proof to counter the claim?
>close fight>pump him once for like 100 dmg>throw nade>he bubbles the exact same moment>nade lands at my feet instead>get knocked>he lets me self res and get awaylole
Filled with two gamer dad types on cryo yesterday and they both talk about how they’re still learning the map, ones got a green shield. Sure enough we get rushed down at minute 4 by a gold compiler squad while they’re asking questions about terminalsNot even mad at those two or anything but holy fuck good luck to them trying to get their bearings now that everyone’s rushing to kill other teams as quick as possible. 3/4ths of my runs yesterday ended before my slowpokes approach the control door and my only successes were when I got fills that were ready to rush other spawns
>every enemy triage is always able to get 1 reboot revive off at least every fight>meanwhile I still haven't played with a triage that's even used their reboot to rez me or the other team mate once in the 252 hours I have on the game
>>563174561How many unique guns are there?
I actually don’t want to do Cryo anymore. The success rate is somewhere like 10% with a trio, even a premade one.Teams are just getting fried. I don’t know what it is exactly, but it’s like everyone is running some sort of gold LMG in every match, probably just cheats. This is about 10 runs of Cryo.
>>563174453>the meta very quickly settles about raping everyone else on the map so you can loot in safety>everyone has memorized the spawnpoints and just rushes them down>rooks are a nonissuesurely the geniuses at Bungie could see this coming...right?
>>563173876From my understanding it's mostly ranked that has them, seems plausible because I imagine the player pool is even smaller so you'd more easily run into the same ones.But it could be shitter cope too.>>563174012If you're American I sincerely apologize for the education you received.If you're not American - do not reproduce.A number of game devs have admitted 50% of their playerbase is on steam (path of exile, call of duty)However, most games don't release 8 years after active development using their own client on steam either. Coupled with the fact that the steam release of EFT requires you to make a BSG account and utilize their launcher the end result is 1 million launch sales does not equal 1 million steam sales or 1 million total.A good comparison is like dropping the playercount of Diablo 2 resurrected on steam which came out 2 months ago when it's been out on battle.net for half a decade. Exceedingly few are rebuying a game they own.
>>563174453>>563175150The meta should logically shift to people hunkering down initially to counter these rushes.I'm curious if it'll shift again after that or if the first 5 minutes will be contesting the 2nd room for every game.
I like you /mg/. do not come to outpost solos tonight
>>563173334Even if they didn't blunder D2 and left it in a good state, even if Bungie wasn't hemorrhaging money out of their ass, even if this game wasn't their supposed swansong to absolve themselves of their sins... Why a hardcore PVP extraction shooter? If they had simply just shit out a single player campaign that focuses on the Mjolnir Recon on the Marathon, then tacked on a PVE extraction shooter akin to Helldivers as the multiplayer it would've had like 5x times the user base. You would've satisfied the old dad heads and kept the le wholesome chungus casuals. Make it so that the end of the campaign ties into the multiplayer, like Bad Company 2 or something.
>>563174974Pretty sure there's 1 for every vault, so 7>>563175005It's such a swingy, meat grinder to play on. My main woe really is shotguns, the fact every fight just devolves into>who shoots who with a shotgun firstIs just really fucking lame, but it's the only valid way to play when everyone has seven self rezzes and a triage ready to suck them off from 30m away. Pretty sure I'm sitting at around a 20% exfil rate with cryo but beyond the lore valuables and subroutines I never get anything worthwhile to make back the losses
>>563175743they wanted the Apex Legends audience but then also the Arc Raiders audienceso here we are
How do I fix this?
>>563175923Wait for the next season
>>563175150>the meta very quickly settles about raping everyone else on the map so you can loot in safetyThis was the meta from the start. I know I'm on a bad team if we hear gun shots and no one wants to pursue it. Casual gamers have this weird prisoners dilemma approach to extract shooters. They don't understand that they stand the best chance of extracting by killing the nearest enemy team. They want to pass by each other like ships in the night, but chances are the enemy team isn't going to spare you when you brush past each other.I might be doing some girl math type shit here, but how I rationalize things... Perimeter has something like a 50% survival rate, the map spawns with five teams. So in an average game 2 or 3 teams will successfully exfil. If your team kills just one other team your odds of being one of the 2 or 3 surviving teams goes way up. You have the best chance of killing another team in the first few minutes. Once the weaker teams get weeded out, your future pvp encounters will most likely be with a team who is already bloodied, a team who is capable of winning. When I convinced my team of this we could go all night with out dying. There is this weird eb and flow of killing and looting. If you haven't killed a team in a while you cant just go face down ass up in a loot cache. If you aren't moving from POIs looking for teams to kill and then looting the location, your just some one else's opportunity for loot.There is something so seductive about wanting to play passively and not engage in pvp, but it will never do you any favors. Casual players will never get past this. This isnt exclusive to marathon, every extraction shooter is like this.
>>563176389the question is - why even play an extraction shooter if you are just going to be playing TDM? there are far better games out there for that purpose.
>>563176932>why even play an extraction shooter if you are just going to be playing TDM?What did anon mean by this? That's the way to get ahead in every title, and that's the end goal in every single one for entertainment.The human element and the thrill of losing or gaining. Opening drawers for 50 hours isn't entertaining no matter how many arc raiders players suggest otherwise.
>>563176389There a time to play it cool and be passive and there's a time to go aggressive.Getting used to when to swap between the two is when you start getting good.
>can't take the time to learn the new map because the Tau Ceti Death Squads are honing in on you by minute 1 and you're constantly attritioning gearMost of the playerbase already quit over this lol because that's their endgame, to get farmed by people who cleared day 1.
>>563177241>Opening drawers for 50 hours isn't entertaining no matter how many arc raiders players suggest otherwise.oh for the right persuasion of 'people' it certainly hits the spot lmap
I just don’t feel like I’m being outplayed in Cryo. I don’t know what it is, but the feel of it has changed. In the prior weeks, teams were really moving and pushing you. Now everyone’s just strolling around but they just really push you in as soon as their reticle gets on you.
>>563177528how keyed would it be to just drop $4 mil on the pokies?
>>563177528the blueprint mechanic is probably responsible for a significant chunk of the player bases interest. It seemed like with the new update all people wanted to do was farm the two new weapon bps
>>563175258>From my understanding it's mostly ranked that has them, seems plausible because I imagine the player pool is even smaller so you'd more easily run into the same ones.>But it could be shitter cope too.I could buy that. I didn't play ranked, people walking around with purple and gold gear in bronze 3. The most ratty fucking game play I've ever seen as well. >Coupled with the fact that the steam release of EFT requires you to make a BSG account and utilize their launcher the end result is 1 million launch sales does not equal 1 million steam sales or 1 million total.>A good comparison is like dropping the playercount of Diablo 2 resurrected on steam which came out 2 months ago when it's been out on battle.net for half a decade. Exceedingly few are rebuying a game they own.Marathon would need about 9 million copies sold to break even right now.I argued that if you add up all the sales from all extraction shooters its still wouldn't be enough. Maybe this argument is wrong, but we dont know because companies like Battle State have never shared sales numbers in a way which can satisfy a counter claim. Maybe some one could autistically go through every game in the genre and do the math, There are probably some obscure extraction shooters I havent heard of or considered yet.I also assert that Tarkov's sales are absolutely inflated through repeat customers. They have released multiple editions of the game and are routinely banning tens of thousands of players every month.While I may have argued this poorly, my real position is that the first person extraction shooter genre is not home to enough players to support this project in the first place.Lets say there were enough sales between all extraction shooters that would warrant making a 250 million dollar game... Where the fuck are all the players at?The only other extraction shooter that's doing the numbers required by Bungie is Arc Raiders, no other game comes remotely close.
>cryo >whole vault gone>one exfil botched due to connection issues>not one gain out of it>Cryo keys lostYou know what brother, I don’t have the time for this anymore. I don’t have the time to do 14 rook runs around Outpost and building up a vault for the whole week trying to scrounge purple shields and whatnot and do Dire Marsh lockdowns again for two weeks andI give up. I actually give up 140 hours in. You know, was a good game, a Marathon 4 only would have lasted 12 hours, so we good.
why is this game still such a fucking cancerous assassinfest
>>563172346>Let's say those same 8 million people all bought a copy of marathon.
>>563178634>gets raped for 140 hours>"it was a good game"
DEAD THING
>>563176932>the question is - why even play an extraction shooter if you are just going to be playing TDM? there are far better games out there for that purpose.Extraction shooters are objective driven, the way you can customize load outs really personalizes how you want to play the game. I'm not constrained by the map I'm playing on, I don't have to wait for a map to come into rotation that features a sniper rifle to snipe other players. I can just pick that in my load out. Extraction shooters have objectives beyond killing other players. How you navigate those is what makes the game fun. Every one will have their own approach and each will yield different results. It's a total sandbox. You cant get that through TDM type games.You are right anon, there are better games to play purely for TDM. I ran out of tasks in Marathon and so I'm taking a break from it until Season 2, I lost the thing that made the game fun.
It's very simple, I just don't engage with Cryo at all until they rework the flow of the map and the surrounding metagame. Last time I checked this isn't an MMO, I shouldn't be spending my days grinding for gear for the raid encounter like it's WoW. Oh boy today's Tuesday it's Alchemy day I better get on my alt and go farm Black Lotuses!
>>563178143On game sales alone? Hunt and EFT together probably just barely hit that number on base copies. But when you combine in MTX it goes above and beyond.The issue with the sales argument is that it ignores live service generates continuous revenue; Hunt single-handedly went from a colossal failure to being the sole lifeline Crytek has while they work on the abomination that will be Crysis 4While I doubt Bungie&Sony is thrilled with the current sales numbers, as they're woefully low vs investment; every single one of the games bar arc raiders subsisted on low playercounts until they exploded in popularity.The best way forward is looking at it from the perspective of a console developer, selling at a loss and recouping costs over time by enticing people to return. Of course, this requires another investment from Sony and also requires Bungie to both attempt to draw in an already contested playerbase and put in actual effort to their MTX going forward since virtually every skin in game looks like it was thrown together in 10minutes.
>>563179010>until they rework the flow of the map and the surrounding metagame.Bungie learning and fixing their mistakes is like trying to make 2 positive sided magnets try to stick together
>>563110325>So just how HUGBOXY is Arc raiders?Algorithm puts you in PvE lobbies if you eliminate yourself 10 games in a row, as long as you don't shoot players. Boring and clunky gameMarathon is much better
>>563179084>On game sales alone? Hunt and EFT together probably just barely hit that number on base copies. But when you combine in MTX it goes above and beyond.For sure, but I also bet those games didn't collectively spend 250 million dollars making their titles. >The best way forward is looking at it from the perspective of a console developer, selling at a loss and recouping costs over time by enticing people to return. Again with the 250 million... How much more content do you think is actually ready to be deployed? How much more game is there left that doesn't require development? How much more of the cock and ball torture can they update the game with before they can shift gears? What could they do to attract players with out dumping more money down the drain?They've sold 1.2 million copies, lets just pretend they've made 50 million from sales, cosmetics, and battle passes. They would need another 200 million from cash shop purchases to break even. The development of this game absolutely fucked it so hard.
>>563179937There is nothing else to do but let it ride and hope it eventually returns its profit with a small development team like many games in its position did in the past.You don't need the entirety of bungie working on a game already released.It's not a win, but there's actually a good game there that can be salvaged.
>>563179010I don’t get the weekend thing aside from the “feel” of it being exclusive to the weekend. If you do a few bad runs on Thursday/Friday, you go back to the other maps and loot back up to get in again. In that sense, what’s the point of locking out Cryo? It’s not like the other maps are locked out on the weekend.
traxus free kit is genuinely just unmitigated unusable dogshit
>Everyone you run into now bodies you or you body themIs this what happens mid-late season with extraction shooters? Is it just lobby after lobby of purple shields and Misriahs because everyone’s been grinding up for months?
>cryo fill>doing great>hit level 2 fast>go into another section>we hear players, sneak up on them fighting robots>no way they know we're here>they all turn around at the same time>two of them have the Goo Gun>we're all wiped out pretty much instantly>cryo fill>sneaking around, see team>we engage, down one>the other two are just peeking and hitting headshots pretty well>i hide behind a wall>run toward hole in wall>right before I get there, gunfire at head level>wall hacks?>turn around, another team rushes us>we die>they were working together>third team shows up and we watch 7-9 people picking at our bodies>cryo premade with my usual team>get to level 1, bad terminal rng>hear noises>ohBoyHereTheyCome.jpg>we get into position and prepare>door opens, team invades our second area/spawn>green bullshit flying at us >we fight a bit but realize they're all purple/Gold>at least two of them have the Goo Gun>get wipedSick game, Bungie. Sick player count, Bungie. Sick anti-cheat, Bungie. Sick incoming layoffs, Bungie. Sick imminent studio closure, Bungie.
>>563180812Yes because it's easy to snowball via good gear if you're average to above average in shooters. I am not really good at clicking heads but I'm decent at positioning and that lets me win a good amount of fights.
If you get downed, and there's a self-revive on the floor near you, can you use it? Or does it need to be in your inventory?
>Made it to the cryo extract with 2 seconds to go>still died because it took too long to enter that fuzzy warping stateFUCK FUCK FUCK darn FUCK
>>563181943The game does this on purpose to keep you invested.
>>563176389>This isnt exclusive to marathon, every extraction shooter is like this.not really, sure it's always the optimal way to play from a game theory perspective but marathon is the only extraction shooter designed to FORCE you to play that way. other extraction shooters have larger maps and less things that make noise, so you can just creep around the outskirts and exfil silently when you're donethat's not optimal but "not wanting to play optimally" is literally what makes a casual a casual. casuals would rather take safe exfils with shitty loot because they feel like they accomplished something and progressed a little bit, they don't care that the EV of taking fights is much higher because they don't care about EV they just don't want to get raped repeatedly
>>563182556if the game wanted to keep me invested I would be able to buy a recon thighs pillow.
>>563181629you can use it, self-revives are the only items you can pick up when downed
>>563175709>ranked gold 1i admire your dedication
>>563183394i just died to a destroyer trashcan hiding in a corner once he heard me
>>563180605it's literally just a playercount issue since the 5k minimum means there's no endless stream of freekitters to keep the queue populatedapparently OCE is already so dead that the chinese are coordinating to all queue in at once and get fully friendly lobbies kek
Why does Triage only get one gold core that is also garbage?
>>563180812the meta now is to wipe every runner as soon as possible and have the entire map for themselves
>>563182571>open a door in any other ES>kchhk as the lock actuates and it just swings open, maybe a bit of a squeak from the hinges>open a door in Marathon >VWEEEEBBBWEEE WOO KER-CHUNK>bots two floors under you get alerted
ZIGGLER DO SOMETHING
>>563182571>marathon is the only extraction shooter designed to FORCE you to play that way.Tarkov has worse spawns than Marathon. I invite people to play Tarkov's beginner map 'ground zero' if they think I'm wrong. >other extraction shooters have larger maps and less things that make noise, so you can just creep around the outskirts and exfil silently when you're doneAgain with Tarkov, the POIs where your tasks are preformed are synonymous with highly contested loot spawns. You are constantly being driven into player contact in Tarkov, you have to play aggressively to come out on top. Timing is important, but constantly shying away from gun fights is how you get shot and killed.
I swear the majority of teams in Cryo are cheating. They get the jump in weird ways and beam you.
If only there was a way to know this game would be loaded with cheaters since the closed alpha, betas, and server slam.
The marathon shilling is a bigger hug box than the arc raiders community
>>563184280I just want you to know I've out a bounty on you
How long until Ziegler is given the "I want him manning a radio tower in Alaska" equivalent treatment from Sony?
>>563183746>use blue key>signalis numbers station audio starts blaring across the entire fucking map>every player within 500 meters immediately runs over to kill me>barely manage to survive but at least after such a tense hard-fought battle i can check out the sick loot i unlocked!>1 purple salvage, 1 blue bag, some blue modswhy are they so fucking loud when they suck so fucking bad
>>563181061should have positioned better chud
>>563172934of course its set to the worst possible music
>>563184747holy kek are all the key rooms like this? I've never used the two keys I have and only picked through pre-opened ones.
>go into Perimeter>actively do all the loot centric stuff there>come out with 5 bugs, 4 spray cans, 9 volt batteries, 3 lunchboxes and 59 credits
>>563183919He won't. Welcome to a game without players. Look at the steam charts, MARASISSY! You are weak. Undisciplined. Cowering behind journalists. You're not stabilizing. You've merely forgotten the fear of RAPE. Allow me to reacquaint you. You Marasissies never deserved the attention Bungie gave you. I am Ghaul. And your holes... are mine.
Has anyone noticed the bots seemingly getting more retarded compared to release? Their AI gets all fucked up and the following things happen: They get stuck in a corner. They're always on alert when stuck like this and immediately blast you rather than making the alert sound. I swear they hit harder too like this but that could just be in my head. If you go down when they're in this state, they just straight up finish you off and gun you down rather than doing the sucky move.
>>563185436I think if you're in a spot that they can't easily path to they will just blast you down yeah, especially if they are getting stuck on geometry because they can't path to you.
I enjoy the Halo dude posts.t. Marathon player
>>563185098you go to the Perimeter if you have a loot room key or just to kill other playersyou go to Pinwheel for actual loot
>>563185007purple keys have command-wing-tier loot (still not really worth crafting since the cost is ridiculous and you have to go through the exfil humiliation ritual when you could just do pinwheel instead), never been in a gold room but i assume they're even crazier. it's really just blue keys that are worthless which is bizarre since they cost 16 fucking obedience matrixes
>>563186057Oh I meant key rooms alerting the whole map "HEY THIS NIGGA JUST USED HIS KEY COME GET YOUR FREE LOOT"
Bros how do we save the game?I actually kinda like the artstyle so I don't want to go back to le brown and grey military dude shooters
>>563184747The whole point of key rooms is they have a chance to drop yellows.
>>563186321Pray that Sony shuts down Bungie and gives Marathon to a different developer.
>>563184747All of the progression in the game is fucked.>making a blue key>get eight of some bullshit item>get a fragile template>infil with it>exfil with it (GOOD LUCK LMAO)>infil with completed key>rat for 20 minutes hoping no one sees you>rat for 20 minutes hoping no one else opens it>open it>it tells half the map where you are and what you're doing>team death match for some SICK gear>including some blues and maybe one purpleIt's even worse for purple keys.
>>563186321>I actually kinda like the artstyle so I don't want to go back to le brown and grey military dude shootersIt's not 2008 anymore, retard. Marathon looks like every other colorful fag shooter.
>>563186308Yes.
>>563186308oh yeah they all do that lolyou WILL play this game like a br>>563186391can blue rooms seriously drop yellows? ime they drop worse loot than post-buff outpost armories
>>563186587>>563186621grim
>>563186520>Marathon looks like every other colorful fag shooter.Name three.HARD MODE: No Battle Royales.NIGHTMARE MODE: No Hero shooters.MARATHON MUST DIE MODE: Higher playercount than 6v6 in a match.>ib4 "b-but Marathon is a hero-" I know, and that's gay and why Ziegler should be shot.
solobros, have you found any gold in pinwheel?I was consistently finding gold in trios and duos but solos is literally just dogshit.bruh I have to fight 5 assassin rats to get it
>>563186839I'm not spoon feeding you, go ask Grok.
>>563186969I have 127 hours in this game and have never found a gold item.
>tfw mowed down several squads, did 2 vaults and managed to extract on top of thatthis game is mostly ass but damn does it feel good sometimes
>>563187059t. casual perimeter enjoyer
>>563186984concession accepted
>>563187073grats on being a good player i guess
>>563186984Okay I asked AI and it told me:>The Finals>Battlefield 2042>Splitgate 2lmfaooooooooooooooIt got pedantic and told me that Finals was minimum 9 players or 10 players so it counted.2042 is literally nothing even remotely similar and is brown and grey slopSplitgate 2 is brown and grey except your character can wear a hot pink bodysuitKill yourself faggot
>>563187368I got really lucky with my fill to be honest, the dude really knew what he was doing and actually talked
>>563187360Retard
>>563187346The pain of genuinely enjoying Perimeter's map design and POIs but it having completely dogshit loot because it's the noob map....
>>563187376>2042 is literally nothing even remotely similar and is brown and grey slopYou have not played 2042>Splitgate 2 is brown and grey except your character can wear a hot pink bodysuitYou have not played Splitgate 2In conclusion, you're a retarded faggot but you play Marathon so that's fair.
>>563186308i'd be pleased if radio screamed ebonics when a key is used
AAAAIIIEEEEE
Seeing the customizable shell concept art and knowing Ziegler scapped that idea for a herofag shooter just fills me with an unbridled rage.
>>563187753>Set to drop under 1K players in 2 monthsKEK
>>563187615>You have not played 2042Wrong.>You have not played Splitgate 2Nobody did nigga
>>563187753The hate campaign for this game truly feels artificial and dare I say it, fake and gay. Maybe it's because people have it tied to their actual profiles when they post shit on xitter and other sites, it just feels different compared to random obsessed /v/faggot shouting into the anonymous void in between gacha slut threads and off-topic shit.
>>563187946Your monitor must suck then, they're both way too colorful.
>>563188158Nice cherrypicked picture fagola
>>563188216Retard
>>563186481i truly don't get what they were thinking with keys, like the design is just incoherent especially when either aspect would work on its own>keys are easier to find and craft but the noise is still there, people do them because they're not risking that much>keys are hard to find and craft but there's no noise, people do them because it's worth the risk of having to exfilit's a shame because i agree with >>563187576and key rooms sucking removes one of the only reasons to go to perimeter
>Press screenshotsMeanwhile, 90% of gameplay looks like this
>>563188342Oh fuck, it's red and grey.
>>563188548bro you're about to get snipedBRO BRO GET TO COVER YOU'RE GONNA GET SNIPED
>/mg/ literally claiming Battlefield is a colourful shooterlmfao
>>563188548Uh oh melty
>>563188865>More cherrypicked press bullshots>He's going to bat this hard for a game with less players than Marathon
>>563188069I'm convinced Sony has just paid for bot farms to blast negative posts, it's the only explanation for this level of doomerism.
>>563189047They're all in game, sorry you only have a GTX 1060.
>>563189090>Didn't address the playercount
>>563188865>image taken at 4k with all settings at maximum >is a screenshot so you don't need to worry about frameratelole, if E3 was still around you'd make a great presenter.
Why the fuck are you shilling for bf here? go to /bfg/
>Can only play Cryo on Thursdays and Sunday night>They removed Sunday nightGo fuck yourselves.
>>563189197These are all different maps by the way, I don't know why you're seething that every FPS game since Fortnite is a colorful fag shooter.
>>563189076I can believe it's organic.Destiny players, like all MMO players, are mentally ill. They act like bungie raped them.
>>563189242
Indian shills literally get paid to post in here positively about bungie lmao
marathon's aesthetic is Having Colors. this is the only criteria that matters. marathon, battlefield 2042, mario wonder, and cruelty squad all look exactly the same because they all Have Colors
>>563189456Ok, but what about Sonic Colors?
>>563189197Move the goalposts more.>>563189207Frostbite is more optimized than Tiger.>>563189409>Cropping out the all time peakKEK
>>563189554it was actually black and white they used special effects to fake the colors
>>563189590The all time peak isn't relevant?
>>563189708Neither was playercount
>>563189590
>>563189769The playercount is pretty fucking relevant in a multiplayer game when the issue sparking the initial post is about the game losing players and dying, retard.
>>563189853I don't even like 2042, but it's just as, if not more colorful than Marathon. The brown and grey shooter meme hasn't been true since Fortnite came out and changed everything.
>>563189943We were talking aesthetic, dumbass. Obviously the playercount for Marathon is fucking horrible.
>>563190054>We were talking aesthetic, dumbass.2042 has colour but it does not have remotely the same aesthetic as Marathon, you ape.
>>563189590You fucking retard optimization is irrelevant in SCREENSHOTS
>>563190148You were the one that brought up the resolution and settings, you fucking RETARD
What does a doomers typical day look like? I'm curious.
>>563190281BECAUSE THEY CAN JUST TURN IT ALL UP AND TAKE AS LONG AS THEY NEED TO GET THE PERFECT SCREENSHOT YOU'RE NOT FUCKING PLAYING BF6 AT THOSE SETTINGS AND IT WON'T LOOK LIKE THAT FOR YOU YOU DON'T HAVE A 10K RIG
>>563190421OH WOW AND EVEN THEN IT RUNS BETTER THAN MARATHON BECAUSE IT DOESN'T NEED TO JUST "TURN ON DLSS BECAUSE WE'RE TOO RETARDED TO TAKE CARE OF OUR CPU USAGE".https://help.marathonthegame.com/hc/en-us/articles/47626640740756-Marathon-PC-Performance-Guide
>Destiny 2 being shut down to focus fully on MarathonDestinybros... It's over...
Marasissy coping by comparing his game to Battlesissy games
>>563190545I don't see that happening, Destiny 2 has a significantly higher player population than Marathon.
>>563189954but reducing it to "colorful" is stupid because the most important part of colors is how they're used and marathon's use of color could not be more different than 2042's. just because it doesn't look like mw2 rust doesn't mean it looks anything like marathon
>>563190421cope
>>563190545https://popularity.report/Still hovering around 200k daily unique users. I doubt marathon is even half of that
Reminder the rest of this game's dead content is a recolored dire marsh
>>563125020Stopped playing != dislikes the game.>>563128480>There's no actual information on player retention %, Steamchart slop literally does not contain this informationI disagree. You can infer player retention from CCU.
>>563190748Damn and that still looks nothing like the official screenshot.
>>563190892That's a different map, retard.
>>563190776>>563190606Destiny will never bring in more players no matter what Bungie does, it's a consistent downward trend. Marathon is still at a point where player numbers can increase, so Bungie is being directed to push more resource towards that.>SourceI know a Bungie guy. Watch out in June.
>>563190917lmao that's not what I am talking about
>>563191043Even when they do shit expansions it does better than Marathon. Only 20% of Destiny 2 players are on Steam, but over 70% of Marathon players are on Steam.
>>563191043>Marathon is still at a point where player numbers can increase
>BF 2042>10M copies sold>Marathon>400k discord usersBF 2042 won, bigly.
>>563191164Hey man, I'm just the messenger. Sony seems to think Marathon has a better chance for live service than Destiny.
>>563191348>Sony seems to think Marathon has a better chance for live service than Destiny.Source?
>>563191394Source>>563191043
>>563191348>Sony seems to think Marathon has a better chance for live service than Destiny.kek
>>563191043>Marathon is still at a point where player numbers can increaselol, lmao even
>>563191043>Destiny will never bring in more players no matter what Bungie does, it's a consistent downward trend. Marathon is still at a point where player numbers can increase, so Bungie is being directed to push more resource towards that.Destiny 2 isn't losing players like Marathon is, even on it's least popular platform(Steam).
>>563191348>Sony seems to think Marathon has a better chance for live service than Destiny.Sony also thought Concord was a fantastic idea.They also think Fairgame$ is great.They also though releasing sad dad movie games 2 years late for full price on PC would be a billion dollar decision.They also thought moving everything to California was a good idea.They also thought shilling Horizon incessantly was a good idea.They also though letting Bungie be in charge of what gets made and what gets cancelled was a good idea.
>>563190397https://files.catbox.moe/qr5s4y.mp4like this
Remember #MarathonTakeover
>>563191164i mean he's larping but he's right about that, it doesn't matter what they do to fix destiny 2 because new players simply don't want to play a game where most of the story has been deleted. the popularity.report stats show that ever since they implemented content vaulting they could keep the core fans coming back but they couldn't grow the fanbase at all and that's the worst thing that can happen to a live service game. marathon can still theoretically appeal to new people with a casual/pve pivot, i'm just not convinced sony will want to sink even more money into it
Saars...please redeem the coupon.
>>563157186Because Bungie's employees are so much worse than the ones who made destiny1.>>563163237Can you imagine what war crimes people would do for Cortana?
>>563164812Sounds like a you problem. You don't have the skills or team to keep up. Game is working as designed.>>563169165Well, of course. Koreans don't count as humans.
>>563170226Just roll your own. It's the exact same garbage used when Destiny was around.
>>563172412Suck it up bitch. Devs have spoken. Knife is nerfed. Eat WSTR.
>>563172851>Sweatyas used here is code, for I'm a bitch who can't keep up and is nothing but a loot piniata for real players.
>>563173334>Bungie must have been smoking some really strong stuff when they thought this would be their big blockbusterThat's the thing. They fired the halfway competent designer who had a design that left space for casuals AND sweats, and would have causalls ocassionaly being the imperial guard or bobs in the sweat vs sweat space marine Security offficer battles, but he wasn't far enough left, so they got the super aggressive pvp designer.
SOLOS IS FULL OF CANCER SUBHUMAN RAT FAGGOTSHOOOOLY SHIT IMAGINE SPAWNING AIRFIELD IN SOLOS AND HAVING 2 CANCER FAGGOTS AIMING AT YOU FROM HIGH GROUND HAHAHAHJAHAHA COULDNT BE ME HAHHAHA GREAT GAME DESIGN KYS BUNGIE
>>563192673What does roll my own mean?
>>563192826>Devs have spoken...to their 20k remaining players LMAO
>>563173876You aren't good enough that you're running into gold shield fucks with disenjectors on cryo very often. And I'm also betting you aren't smart enough to know what cheats are. A bunch of fuckers are using cheaters just to avoid unfavofrable pvp, and extracting safely elsewhere. You'd never know. Don't be a giant idiot.
>she fell for the Solo memelmeeeeeooooooow
How the fuck did they launch this game without a shooting range? Where did the $300M go?
>>563193626>Where did the $300M go?Paying off the artist they stole from
>>563178660Why are you so weak?
I mean it's obvious. It's a hate campaign done by the very same people who never actually play games or engage with the game they pretend to want to hate. Same for the YouTube faggots isn't it? They get their clicks squeezing their tiny dicks while it lasts. Marabrothasandsistas. Casuals ain't shit. Never were. Never will be. Stay strong, you got roughly 6 months and then these faggots will disappear to another game where they'll jack each other off to.Sincerely yours,Your Darktide /coopg/ bro
So did Marathon figure out how to make stealth characters fun or is the industry still shit out of luck on that one
>>563151747>>563151954There’s a few pieces of catwalks and stairs that one part of it maybe because it wasn’t evenly set up or there’s some collision thing or something where if you go crouch to stand or vice versa with very slight movement it sounds like you’re jumping up and down on a metal slab and the clang is just loud as fuck. Almost like the cartoonishly loud vent and ladder climbing sfx of Half Life 1. There’s also a few things in Pinwheel that I don’t think were coded right like the plastic sheet blinds that are louder than usual, certain steps and ladders in connecting sections that sound loud, etc. the death and heal sounds I feel inconsistent for the degree of range and loudness in different spaces
>>563193591Shut your whore mouth, niggerslutMarathon will come to PS Plus and Game Pass, now I'mma go play solo on PS5(and win, of course).
>>563183702>>563180605Player count is only part of it. WIthout it, people will game the system, pick off peak hours to farm.
>>563191043>Yeah they are totally going to drop the tried and true franchise game after 10 years that has proven it has a consistent fanbase and only languished through neglect>They are going to drop it and put all their effort onto a game that has only lost players since release and is being raped by almost every other extraction shooterNice LARP Marasissy, should try harder on the LARP next time before spouting something retarded.
>>563194078that's a symptom of playercount anonif the game was doing arc numbers cryo wouldn't have an off peak because people would be running it 24/7
>>563194017Idk xister, I feel like casual people who were expecting to be won over and heckin just like when I was a kid Bungie good times, flipped out the loudest and turned on the game faster. They might not have some peanuts to collect off YouTube earnings but there is quite a number of people who are absolutely frothing at the game and basically want something completely separate to win them over and it’s just not gonna happen
>>563184421Fucks like that tend to fall upwards. And also consider this: With the number of failed an trashed games out there he might actually be better than average.
>>563194017>Sincerely yours,>Your Darktide /coopg/ broHave the faggots at ObeseFish added the ability to make my character not look like a tranny with shaved hair yet?
>>563187629Clearly a feature for the "straight outta compton" extaction shooter.>>563188069Never met Destiny 2 players?
Let's play a raid on cryo!>teamates have green shields>brought the wrong ammo for their guns>actively stay away from the panopticon>still get insta downed by a purple team that didn't skimp on equipmentMy fucking luck
Hey guys I'm finally doing a Cryo run, where do I go?
>>563194568It's still a skill issue if it's social skills. You are a shitter who's friends are shitters.
>>563194235The problem with Destiny is it relied so heavily on people tolerating a crap factor that made no sense for a game released in 2014 or 2026. It can be a good brain off time and I’m not a hater of Destiny but I also get that it’s a flawed game that doesn’t really jump out at everyone. Lore has been absolutely decimated and shittied up even with regards to it being a rotation of staff and original plans falling through. The game play can be entertaining when Bungie lets it be fun but good thing we outsource all info and quality control to our approved content creators who’ll champion for the most boring stupid ass way to play all so they can attempt to lord over end cap level as some real earned challenge. It’s not to say a theoretical D3 couldn’t ever come about but Bungie are going to look like absolute fucking retards for the third time banking on the unfamiliarity of new people who can’t tell when the game is in good shape or not. You can’t sell games and win masses over on quality of life shit and features the game should’ve always had, Edge of Fate is that in a nut shell
>>563194823>it's a skill issue because you went crew fillthat's not how that works chuddy
>>563194527No idea faggot. I keep playing and keep winning. Btw there's 3 customers waiting for their order, you lazy sack a shit. You have 3 double whopper menus at table 10. Don't forget the sodas. Then, you got a triple cheese bbq with fry dips at table 4. Last but not least, wipe your fucking nose you disgusting pig, and prepare that 10pcs nuggets for table 7. Pronto!
It took a whole ass year for Destiny 1 to actually become a good video game
>>563194945You are so bad you don't even know how far behind you are. The meta is shared POV streams from your teammates. At this rate, you'll be so behind that you won't be worth looting.
>>563195231Uhhh I don't work fast food with you, bro.Also they don't bring the fast food to your table you pick it up at the counter.
>>563194875Destiny 3 is unlikely to actually happen. More than likely the future of Bungie is this...>Big layoffs hit>Sony restructures bungie>Marathon put on maintenance mode or lessened content roll outs>Focus put on Destiny 2 and updating it to recoup player counts and get it consistently bringing in revenue againMarathon is completely fucked, but Destiny 2 at least has years of content to use to prop itself up. Sony is going to tell them to recycle shit in D2 and have them talk it up to being a great gesture to the community by "unvaulting" stuff. Marathon is going to have to come up with brand new original content on a consistent cadence and with its player counts that isn't going to be financially viable. Marathon is too narrow of a game to be massive, while Destiny has more broad consumer appeal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=magCIXGDQwsOur boy Angry Joe is a bit miffed at the budget for this game
Why did this other rook just start shooting me? I thought we were wholesome reddit chunguses, I had to put him down.
Marathon should have launched with at least 10 maps.
>>563195571once again confirms that what we see, and the state of prerelease before the delay (it literally looked like an alpha cooked up in a couple months tops), that this game was rushed out in it's current state (probably pressure from Snoy) and that it had indeed been remade from ground up several times
>>563195472bring up destiny to someone who hasn't played it and they'll say "oh isn't that the one where they deleted half the game?". it's known as a mismanaged mess that's impossible to get into and so no one wants to get into it. meanwhile hardcore fans have given up hope and are not going to come back for reprised old content or yet another systems rework. the only way to get people interested in destiny again is a new game
>>563193394Show me 5 different instances of streamers fighting cheaters on cryo. Should be easy since its so rampant.Youre just a miserable shitter who cant exfil no matter how hard he tries, the kind of shitter to blame it on cheats. Get fucked idiot.
>>563196286True, same deal with Marathon as the game that stole art. A new Destiny game definitely is the way to revive the franchise and I agree with that. But is Sony going to allow Bungie to throw hundreds of millions of dollars into another brand new game after the underperformance of Marathon? I doubt it, at least until some layoffs and massive restructuring has happened.
What would /mg/ wish for Mid-Season?
>>563196835Meaningful content
>>563196835A L4D style Versus mode where people can queue in as UESC Commanders and hunt Runners.
>>563195571Holy shit pissed pablo got fat as fuck
How the fuck are people doing two vaults in a single run? My team and I barely have time for one. We apend 25 minutes running around the map either fighting for our lives with other players or trying to hit the RNG of all the prerequisites spawning in convenient locations.
>>563195306:)
>>563127527I played it and it's alright.
I swear you have to be some kind of retarded baboon to play this game on anything other than a free kit.
>>563199224Yeah, it'l be a real epic troll when the people who actually bring gear into raids kill you and don't even get their ammo value back.
>>563199652otherway around ape
>>563199706If you're bringing a sponsored kit in there's no fucking way you kill people consistently, shitter.
>Teammates want to exfil the moment they get a single purple shield>Don't even want to do panopticon or the gold level 4 roomWhy do these shitters hate loot?
>>563199224>>563199706post stash
>>563199224What is the point in playing if you just run free kits?
>>563186321>>563186520I like the colorful style, but I think they could definitely tweak it slightly while retaining the unique graphic design inspired futurism.Ghost in the shell SAC, Mirror's Edge or Appleseed are good examples imo. I think the issue with Marathon might be there's not enough neutrals in the color palette. I'm imagining something like pic-related with 20-30% more accent color
how tf are you supposed to see anything in this game?imagine a person stood in the center of that room or on the other side. they could probably easily see me too
Cryo is really fun when you're not level 200 being put up against premade teams of streamers.
>>563201727Maybe being a solofag was the real way, avoid the rape race.
>>563193626>Where did the $300M go?wages for work that was then all scrapped a few months later, after the previous lead left, and a new lead came in with rockstar syndrome and made the call to scrap everything and start from zero because he had a vision, and goddammit, he was gonna force it on everyone no matter what. This probably happened multiple timesThis is part of the reason the US gaming industry as a whole is in the gutter atm
>>563200649Because odds are they won't survive it. You're gambling big on wiping the lobby.
>he didnt post stashyeah you broke bitch freekitter
Don't look, Marasissies
>>563206418The entirety of the D2 stream is Aztecross, who is not even actively playing.
only darkness now
>>563206418Their Prime Raped has the deepest stockholm syndrome
>Nearly every teammate I've filled into for Cryo has said they've never exfilledHow bad is the average person at this game? This is insane.
>>563207287It's a lot like labs in Tarkov where there's at least one serial rapist in a lobby and they're systematically removing people one by one.
>cryo>clear spawn>enter first room>already players thereWhat the fuck? They either had perfect RNG with terminals and security tags and then ran through their spawn, their first area, the connecting corridors, and entered our area or there's some new bug/hack going around. What a waste of time and resources.
>its been one month and this retard doesnt know the spawnrush meta
>>563207287cryo is either>average skilled teams throughout the map>people who know the map inside-out and have played nothing but this game for the last month i.e. the streamer squads and wipe the map senselessly
>>563207742You only need security clearance 2 to get into a neighboring room without getting through control, and only need clearance 1 to bolt through control and into someone else's spawn. It's the best way to clear teams.
>>563207726>POV: You're about to have a bad time
>>563208187Roger that, thanks for the info. Still frustrating.
What's stopping you from entrenching against the spawnrush? If you guys are posted up you have the advantage because you can hear them moving.
WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON?
>>563208814You got a sneak peak at the June numbers
>be me, GOOK>spawn south of hauler>exfil is directly in front of me>within the first 30 secs of spawning, a thief and assassin team run to the exfil in front of me>kill them both>they try to crawl south towards overflow>do the stab x2>try to loot>one has biolen sneed>someone else activates exfil in front of hauler>panic>flee towards overflow>come back after exfil goes through>all the stuff still there>loot, run to overflow again to call exfil>call it, hide in overflow>game crashes>login, reconnect>not dead, exfil still there>run in>right as i run in, exfil disappears>go back to hauler to pass through to north relay as there's another exfil>can hear alarm in the distance, think it's medical locked room northwest of hauler>flee back to overflow>camp for a while>debating wheter i should take the other exfil in station that's been there for a while>in the last 3 mins, run back to hauler to try north relay again>get close>someone watches me the whole time>he/the team honks the hauler>takes me a second to register>full on panic again>run back to overflow, then up ravine to take the tunnels to station>call in station exfil at 57 secs>exfil a few seconds after final exfil shows upcool game
Had a good cryo run for once.
>trying to do contracts >PERIMETER of all places is filled with purple and gold shields nowNah they gotta inject the trials matchmaking ASAP. Fills vs vs fills, premades vs premades.
I hope they'll bring back hulks.
>>563209978we're not getting that far manif the sales analysts are correct, and the budget estimations are correct, then the game has made around 1/6~ of its budget back. Given the quality of the store skins I can't imagine MTX revenue is covering ongoing dev costs either. I was expecting Marathon to get a year of support at a bare minimum but now i'm not even sure of that
>>563209843Just kill them and take their shit
>>563210349Way too early to be saying things like this. We need to wait at least until season 2 to see how Bungie handles this before making predictions. Marathon isn't a blockbuster, but also not a catastrophe.
>not a catastrophe.
Wow the doomsayers in this general are pathetic.
>>563210697We already know what Season 2 is, it's one new shell + a night time reskin of the worst map. nothing substantial is coming until Season 3, aka September. What do you think the player count will be in 5 months time?
>>563211063Not as pathetic as the playercount
>>563211153Hunt showdown has less and its still alive
I thought this game had reinvigorated my love for gaming, socializing, and competitive shooters. Turns out it was just the opening weeks where everyone was playing. Now that the casuals left I'm just getting downed with no progress left and right. No extracts. No teamwork. Just endless deaths. I'm a pathetic failure in this game, just like real life. If it weren't for my cat I would have taken a long drop and a short stop. I have nothing left to live for, and for a brief glimmer of time, Marathon had me thinking otherwise. I guess it was worth 40 dollars. But this fall, this crash wasn't worth the high. Every day brings me closer to killing myself. I wish it would end. Please let the suffering end.
>>563211063they got buttblasted yesterday by the tassi report
>>563210804Yes.
Went and upgraded to deluxe version.Because despite all the frustration and anger, I actually do genuinely enjoy this game.It's a good pain.
>>563211564you're aware the flight stops when the plane hits the ground, no matter the speed, right?
>>563211753Well, then they better do something before it does. Also, what's this ugly gorilla looking character people keep posting ITT?
>>563211564Where does the trajectory put it?
>>563211880rape ape
the respected (((video game journalists))) at (((forbes)))
>>563211416>brief glimmer of time, Marathon had me thinking otherwise.that means the spark and fire is still in you, you just need to give it some good fuel.please take care and pet your cat for me, anon
Destroyer needs a hard nerf in ever category, absurd frame
>when your vault is full but you just want to freekit a new contract
>>563213127I remember it being garbage at first, but it seems people learned how to play it well.
>>563211750I enjoy it too, but I am quitting early because of bungies retarded balancing decisions. They are flushing the game fast as fuck, fumbling literally every possible opportunity to bring in more players. I have now downloaded hacks and am terrorizing noobs until EOS
>>563213127>t. Assassin main
>>563212143I don't have any more fuel. I've been running on empty for years at this point. My entire life is a sick joke. I had everything and threw it all away. And now I'm too old to get any of it back. Every day I wish I could be better but I'm not and I never will be. I am doomed to suffer until I die while the rest of the world gets to find happiness.
>>563213247and then i freaked it
>>563213342That's because it's a bad shell until you get stat upgrades.Prior to that a boost takes 70% of your heat bar which takes ages to cool down, you're fat as fuck so you're both slow & unable to mantle most objects, and your self heal speeds make healing in cqc unviable.The only consolation is his ultimate is kind of useless unless you're fighting people outside of your effective range.
>>563213590You just need more faction upgrades, instead of dooming hit the Jim
>>563213787I cant afford a gym.
>>563209843People have been saying they need to have a loadout limit for the maps because people would just snowball shit
>>563213127Vandal slide needs a buff to be at least similar to how ridiculous rocket boosting is. Destroyer/Thief/Triage are the power level shells should be at. Assassin should probably be non-pickable in solos since it naturally degenerates lobbies into hard ratting just by existing, it's fine in trios.
>>563213590i dont know about you enough to pretend i really can help you, but from reading, i can still feel you have the will to fight.>I don't have any more fuel.search for some externally, if you can, just like you tried with marathon>Every day I wish I could be better but I'm not and I never will be.again, i dont know you, but i often feel the same way. but then when i honestly look back, even small improvements that become normal can add to something, even if it doesnt feel like that right away.i believe in you anon. you seem like a reflected person and that alone is a huge buff, that many people will never reach. even if it comes at a price sometimes.
Marathon is making people suicidal and you guys are laughing
>Game crashed mid fight after fully kitting>On consoleFix your shit game bungo.
>>563213342>5m dash>3rd person peeking shield>fast sprintyeah very bad shell fo sho
>>563214772Absolutely not, these are shells not the security officer or master chief. Thief, Triage, and Destroyer are outliers that need to be pulled back.
>>563217325>triageOkay, willing to hear why you think this is the case.
Destroyer Solo fucking rocks honestly
>>563217514Everyone brings something to the table, but Destroyer and Thief have the tools to push quite aggressively, which is a huge plus if you get a drop on someone. Recon would be better once they fix the spiders retardation and make the Prime ability better, while Vandal could use a little love too. Assassin is fine as is, they could honestly maybe give the Tactical a bit more of a cooldown so all of the mystery niggas would atleast have to get themselves some smokes.
LFG for cryo meme run with no gear but shotguns to goop off players
>>563218312I am still playing and enjoying the game but I'm still 100% convinced that the Vandal buff is going to somehow be fucking nothing and address zero issues. Some shit like 'slide now goes 1m farther' or 'disruptor charges .1s faster'
I play majority solo runs and I am level 40 after about 60 hours. I did a few trio runs and holy fuck.. the exp you get is MONSTROUS compared to solo. I didn't realize you get experience from each team mates completed contract. Thats fucking crazy. Solos are getting fucked in more ways than one. Here I am thinking the solo exp bonus was just because its harder. Its actually because without the bonus, solo players would be like level 20 still.
What do you think the cradle system will be like? I am curious to see how shell stats could be modified. I like the destroyer a lot but I hate how he isn't exactly more tanky than any other shell. He has the same durability as an assassin which is strange to me.
>>563218783Solo mains might actually be winning because all the Triotards are so overleveled they're getting raped by streamers and cheaters.
>pinwheel open in first two minutes of matchReduce pinwheel loot, give Perimeter and Marsh more value
>>563218928There is no way it will be as in-depth as I want, so I just try not to have too many expectations.
>>563218769The easiest solution is to just nerf thiefs grappling CD further and lower heat gen while increasing distance slightly on vandals abilities.They're not bad, they just get beat out by alternatives who do 1 thing and do it so exceptionally well you gravitate towards them instead.>>563218928He has a secondary lifebar if you hit F, homie.If I was to make a guess it'd be cross season stat boosts and modifying things like increased heat capacity at the cost of agility and knife damage or so and so.
>>563217325triage actually gets worse as you go up because everyone starts to have more and better meds on top of self-repair speed
Just had to deal with a squad that tossed like 15 grenades. While we were green/free kit and they were purple/gold. In Perimeter. I genuinely don't think you should be able to bring more than 2 grenades at maximum.
>>563219329>He has a secondary lifebar if you hit F, homie.The shield is a bait honestly. Not saying its useless but against anyone with a fucking brain its near worthless. Even with slide canceling it etc. There is an animation delay when putting it up and putting it down. I find it very unreliable to use reactively. Like turning a corner and seeing mother fuckers looking at you. You will be downed before it comes out. Preemptive use is a bit better. It is also hard to retreat with it because you obviously can't sprint backwards and the jump jets turn the shield off. Realistically, I'd rather they just make PRIMARY AND SECONDARY weapon slots and let the destroyer be able to shoot secondary weapons(pistols maybe smaller smgs etc) with his shield up. The UESC can already do it.
>>563219664I think it should honestly be just one utility equipment per type, it would make people use them more strategically instead of just making it a numbers game. If they want to do that, better get their lazy asses over to looting munitions crates for extra ones or get them off other players.
>>563219664Realistically all they need to do to fix this is make it required to open your pack to equip other equipment. So if you use two frags, two more don't just magically appear in your equipment slot. I think that would be fine. But yeah you are right, nade spam can be kind of busted. UNLESS they introduce some sort of point defense equipment or perhaps maybe that new shell "Sentinel"? will have a point defense setup that breaks incoming projectiles and nades etc.
how low do player counts have to get before they remove the stupid fucking limit on weapon charms/stickers
>>563219329I mean I see two problems with Vandal1. Disruptor cannon has a stupid hitbox that gets caught on corners when it shouldn't, so using it while peeking is really shitty feeling2. Her slide not being cancellable or letting you fire during it means that its only in-combat purpose is lateral repositioning from cover to cover, and even then that's only cover that's a convenient distance away. It lacks versatility because of its hard commitment.Her double jump is obviously extremely powerful, but only in certain situations - it is effectively useless in Cryo pvp, so she ends up with an unreliable tactical skill, a prime that takes way too long to turn on and doesn't really do a whole lot once you're in a situation where double jump isn't already winning you the fight, and a slide that will get you killed for trying to use it aggressively. Disruptor remains good but again, it's unreliable near corners.
>>563209843The new experimental mode should be sponsored kits only, map rotation, but perimeter only would be fine too
>>563110429That one other retard said the same about Highguard and look at what happened.
>dying rook gives me his loot>get uncontested armory loot>run to exfil>activate it with less than 10 seconds left>final exfil deactivates it>final exfil is on the other side of outpostFuck these nigger devs I hope the feds find their CP stash
>>563220370>>final exfil deactivates itthat doesnt actually happen, does it?I just called in an exfil at 30 secs and it still worked even though final exfil spawned right after
>>563219885>Preemptive use is a bit better.That's the idea. You get in a few shots and throw it up before your shields break and move back/boost away, or you use it to move to a more advantageous position that would normally get you lit up for walking out in the open.>I'd rather they just make PRIMARY AND SECONDARY weapon slots and let the destroyer be able to shoot secondary weapons(pistols maybe smaller smgs etc) with his shield up.This is extremely broken in multiple ways, anon. Destroyer is already the best shell in the game, they don't need any buffs.
instead of narrating your shitty fights why don't you just enable background recording
>>563220228Highguard was a completely different situation. No one was a fan of Highguard, and it lost 90+% of its players in less than a week, despite being free. Comparing the health of Marathon and Highguard is like comparing the health of a guy who broke a leg falling off of a bicycle and a guy who stepped on a landmine.
>>563220557It works as long as there is enough time for the activated exfil to fire off before the match ends via timer. So you have to have that minute or so in total to make it out. Still sounds kind of retarded to expect to go for an exfil when the final was so close to spawning
>>563220652i had a really cool round yesterday and forgot...
>>563220652i only have like 100gb on my HDD and i don't have a consistent 60 fps in this game i'm not making it worse
>>563220679>a guy who stepped on a landmine.
>>563220554If you can't get the activation to start (on outpost it's different because of the red card requirements on restricted exfils) before the run timer hits 0 the exfil station will just deactivate. On the other hand I don't know if this bug still exists, but if you are mid-tablet animation when the run timer hits zero and so the exfil activates AFTER final exfil is active, it will look and behave active, and tell you that you exfiled when you take it, animation at all. Then the post-run report will tell you you died and lost everything.
>>563220143If they make the slide cancellable, all people will do is slide into people with it. I don't really think they intend vandal to even be an aggressive shell but rather a skirmisher who can reposition more effectively. People say destroyers mobility is really good but I'd say its actually mediocre. Can't sprint when crouching obviously, the jump jets use far more heat than vandal slide etc. I think it just ends up that both of their types of mobility are similar but for different uses. People want to power slide into people and shotty them but maybe that isn't the idea behind vandal. Because I guarantee as soon as they let power slide do that, people will just use it to slide shotty people. The slide lowers your hit box to the ground making you hard to headshot too. Less heat generated as well.
>>563221115>People want to power slide into people and shotty them but maybe that isn't the idea behind vandalThen they probably shouldn't have made that exact thing one of the mastery challenges for her in the Codex. Kinda makes it seem like that's the idea behind Vandal.
Surely Marathon flopping will get Sony to cancel Fairgames, right?
>>563220557>This is extremely broken in multiple ways, anon. Destroyer is already the best shell in the game, they don't need any buffs.Obviously they can balance it out. I'd honestly trade the air dash for that. The destroyer doesn't fit his own class fantasy at all honestly and it sucks. There effectively is no "tanky" shell. His shield in its current state is ass for fulfilling that feeling. Now maybe that design space is reserved for a future shell. Who knows. But it literally says the destroyer shells were used for riot control. What riot patrol do you know that can turn a shield on but can't swing a weapon? or shoot a weapon? Its lore rape how it is now.
>>563221298They shouldn't have. However, most shells have ridiculous mastery challenges that I don't think reflect how the shell really is played. Some of the challenges are okay but some are also very lame.
>>563221298I think the general philosophy is that the slide should remain commital, but i'm pretty much in the mind to also think that it should be made a key part of her combat identity in the sense that it's usage should give buffs to her mobility and other actions (weapon handling, swap speed, movement speed, jammer by default) and other effects that would make her more evasive at a baseline. It's not like the mobility is the useless part, the useless part is that there isn't enough of it at the point it would be needed the most.
Which shell is probably the best on a budget? Which is probably the best fully kitted out?
>Exfilled 8/10 times on Cryo in solo fillsI don't know about y'all but I'm having a blast.
>>563208495>>563207742last three rounds have been us invading while someone else sandwhiches us, or someone invading, killing them, and then ANOTHER team invading as well.
>play free kit>have fun, get loot, kill a team>play with my blue/purple gear>immediately get killed in first minute of match by players feeling to each spawn Honestly, this gsme is 60x better as a BR
>>563222148You might be getting good team mates. Had 3 people now enter with green shields. However their weapons were a railgun probably with some mods in it and a WSTR which probably brought their kit to the 5k needed. When the reality is that it is a dogshit kit.
>>563221107good to know, thanks anon
>>563222083>budgetTriage (free sustain) or Assassin (effective ratting and stealing from others)>kittedDestroyer probably, his mobility is pretty much unparalleled where fights actually take place, and he benefits heavily from playing around bubble shields, which are a big part of geared fights.Overall though differences aren't that big, all the shells have benefits in either scenario and it's not like anything's so powerful that the best team is just 3 of one thing. Recon is the only shell that's like kinda just fucked and even then Stalker/her prime are good, just flawed.
>>563222590I don't like that recon has additional stats in "ping" when her other stats aren't that great I think. ping doesn't feel like it should even be a stat.
UNSANCTIONED HOSTILITIES 2/5 DOES NOT SAY IN A SINGLE RUNWHY IS PROGRESS BEING RESET
There's no reason to go into Control btw. Stay in your spawn lane and farm security clearance 2 and then rotate around the outer sides of the map. You will almost always run into players fighting UESC and their kits are basically handed over to you. Then you just exfil with their security keys and you've doubled what you came in with.
Solo is a terrible experience, I can't believe most of you prefer this.
>>563222945you have to exfil to lock progress
>>563222465I get a fuck ton just playing it safe in cryo
>>563223436It's not that I necessarily prefer solo, it's more that the other two people I play with don't have as much time as me and I prefer it to fill. There's also a nice feeling to being only reliant on myself, no negative feelings at teammates for failing to mop up a 2v1 if I kill 2 of the 3 people myself or some nonsense like that.
>>563223541It's not specified which is fucking retarded. It basically is a single run
I've been playing mostly solo and I have a love hate relationship with the game. I played for three weeks with free kits, got a mighty big chunk of the priority contracts finished, but ultimately just learning the ropes and getting confidence in solo. Recently I've spent the last week getting more and more comfortable betting the good stuff. Right now I'm at 46 and I have 6 purple and 6 blue shields, maybe just under 200k vault value, and a nice stack of nades, meds and mats. Sometimes I get all excited build crafting for 30 minutes and then proceed to get dunked on in the first 4 minutes of the match. Other times I go free kit and walk out with blue shields and good stuff. I sincerely dislike how squishy people are, it is a real case of shoot on sight and don't miss or you'll regret it. I've misclicked, ran into a room before reloading or just turned a blind corner and immediately biffed it, nothing else I could've done to get away. If players were a little tankier, I think there would be a lot more slow playing and strategizing rather than just running full-tilt at the enemy, hoping they either missed or are reloading. Knife sprinting is still effective, I don't feel what really changed other than magnetism. Destroyer is my favorite shell but I'm getting comfortable on Theif and now suddenly Vandal, just to mix things up a little. My least played is probably Triage, because I don't think he's great in solos.
Why are misriahs so rare?I only have two and both were robbed from another runner
>>563196450LOL. So you expect to throw out some lazy as fuck anecdotal for your argument, but now you're demanding all that trash? You're just a bitch trying to make up for your lack of skill with aggression. Instead of shitposting with >5 streamers on cryo?I'll humor you, but just a little. Albralelie himself talks about going 3 for 7 with cheaters at his level. So is Jake. https://x.com/AlbralelieVT/status/2041414927798210620https://x.com/GernaderJake/status/2040974892150165897Now to be fair, terrible players aren't seeing cheaters as much as actually skilled players, so it's understandable why someone like you might not think there's cheating.
>>563190870>You can infer player retention from CCU.Player retention correlates with CCU, but there are many more variables in the game's structure and player behavior that affect CCU manifold that makes it very unreliable indicator.
The Circuit Breaker is legitimately so ass what the fuck.
>>563199973You understand that half the people lose a 50/50 matchup by definition, and the bottom 30 percent of players aren't going to kill people consistently even with a 1 tier advantage? For people like that, permaratting, risking nothing, and scavenging for scraps is actually their mathematically best approach. Minimal risk, lots of fill games. If you get, well, fucking anything, it's time to head for the exits. >>563200649Exactly. If they say they're losers, you should believe them. Get a better team or get left behind.563197889No shame in ratting, especially when you have nothing worthwhile to add to the thread in the first place, but you aren't extracting that easily.
>>563226039Correct. But it's not too bad, especially at launch, when returning players aren't a thing, and you also have observable sales to work with. Marathon sucks ass at retention, and consistently lost more people than new incoming players for it's entire life.
Blast Haver, Lightning In A Bottle, and Returned To Form are bearing down on you with gold kits, biotoxic disinjectors, wallhacks and aimbotswdyd?
>>563225823they want 7k for that rarity of gun in schema prints. Honestly fucking stupid, I wish they would halve the shop value of weapons.
>>563223436As a solo player: Rook > Solos ≥ Crew FillRook is a fun and somewhat unique experience. Scavenging and the occasional rook team up make it fun.Solos is frustrating at times and there's less of a safety net to deal with bullshit. Crew Fill is a crapshoot and probably the reason why so many players stopped playing. Imagine a new player immediately going to crew fill and trying to build an economy/inventory. It's just not happening. Way too many chances of just donating your gear.
>>5632273393-monthly wipe probably causes dropping off players to drop off for the rest of the season = bad retention on a 3-month scale, but on the other hand, 3-monthly new season creates more chances to bring them back in the long run. That is, as long as the ill-informed doomer narrative hasn't eaten the game by then.80% of the success of Marathon is based on this self-fulfilling future projection, which in turn is based on ignorant interpretations of low quality data.Even people who genuinely like Marathon are going to start to make up issues in preparation to drop the game to soften the emotional blow, it's just basic group psychology. Not saying the game doesn't have actual issues, but the weights of good and bad are completely biased based on whether the mass formation accepts or rejects it.A hundred times better metric for player retention that I can come up by thinking it for few minutes would be the number of players who have played at least 3 hours within the last 3 days, and compare that across games. You could then compare that with CCU to get a good estimation for the average depth of engagement. Relative differences to sales between people who have played the game for at least 1 hour would be also interesting.
I find myself agreeing, especially the self-revive shit. One halfway decent revive speed implant and a few upgrades and you can basically get back up as fast as you got downed. Grenades all functionally being quick grenades instead of something you have to actually equip and ready to throw makes it too easy to spam them and bubble shields are just... lmao.
22k at primetime again on a FridayActually insane
>>563230075Bubble shields are cancer and grenades are a wee bit too strong with how many you can bring, but there's no issue with self res except the knife changes.Without the bubble shield spam self res isn't a problem. If you can't finish off a kill after downing that's on you.
>>563229763>ill-informed doomer narrativestopped reading
>>563230728>grenades are a wee bit too strongthey're not, reallythey behave like grenades shouldsome of them are even useless like the acid ones (except for bubble counter)
>>563231253Again no counter argument. UESC bots are not sentient.
>>563231796counter argument: the game is 20k peak after 1 month and losing players everyday
>>563231627It's more of an issue of spam capacity.They're very good which isn't a problem at all, but when there's 2-3 people chucking them rapidly at a position it's too much.This is a two faceted issue:1) the grenade barters are really easy and give you a fucking shitload.2) the speed of deploying them is so fast that you can almost always ensure a trade even if the other person shoots you before you get the first off.
>>563231627a single nade does like 120 damage, has a massive radius and blows up instantly.and you can carry like 10 of them. yeah defo no issues there
>RAPE frame online.
>>563231965UESC bot is bad at logic.UESC bot can only repeat old shit arguments that has been already refuted.UESC bot thinks that everyone repeating a shit argument makes it true.UESC bot feels safe believing in the same arguments as others even if they are shit.
>>563233071>don't believe your lying eyesok cultist
>>563233256They all hate me but they can never tell me how I'm wrong
i suck but im still having fun
>>563229763>ill-informed doomer narrativewell-informed doomGOD truth**
>Here's How Marathon Can Still Win
>>563233730Harness the power of exploding computers via hacking like in Die Hard 4 to blow up people who are negative. It's the perfect plan
>>563233730We don't deserve Marathon
>>563233885Marathon isn't the game we deserve. It's the game we need.
>>563211416If you like to, i coud play a better game with you, but i am a psant.So we can only play MHWilds.I like Nightreign too, but sadly no Crossplay.Dont kill yourself my nigga
>>563233730free to play up to level 30, add some arena mode, 3v3v3v3 capture the anomaly and tdm, rewards only creds and some mats.
Yeah I think I'm gonna main Pete and dab on Mickey mains.
>>563234543Literally 0% chance this is real but I'm maining Goofy and roleplaying as him by being hip and saying the n-word
>>563234795>A-HYUCK, WHAT'S GOOD NIGGAS?!
>>563234874People really don't give A Goofy Movie enough credit for its bold new take on the character
ANGRY JOE MADE A NEW VIDEO
>grenades should be 4-slot>bubble should have 10s timer>self rez should be solo onlyEzpz
Just remove grenades having to be quick thrown, you have to stow your weapon to equip it.
>>563234543Captain Hook GAWDs WW@?
Marathon needs a mode where everyone spawns in with free kits and UESC is bumped up by 50%. Everything else is the same, just all free-kit on marsh, outpost, cryo.
>>563235114FORTYDOLLARS?!
marathon would have been a good side mode in Destiny
>>563236350Could be a fun weekly modifier. Could even make a lore excuse about UESC Electronic Warfare fleets preventing you from beaming down with most gear. Make the overall goal of the round to clear the interference so you can exfil with your loot.
>>563236502You should only be able to carry in a set amount of gear. You're a light tactics salvage unit you shouldn't be bringing down an entire armory with you
>>563236657Gear limits for each map would solve this desu.
>>563229763>the ill-informed doomer>loses 70% of its player base in a month>sold worse on consoles>ill-informed
>>>/v/736763818RED ALERT, WE ARE FUCKED BROS
>>563236883>loses 70% of its player base in a monththere is no proof of this opinion, read >>563128480, >>563226039, >>563229763>sold worse on consoleshas nothing to do with player retentionholy fucking retards, literal meat drones
>>563237397>sharply declining concurrent users has nothing to do with retentionriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight
>>563237291retard alertall recent disney games are mobile p2w trash
>>563237397>can see the number of users online go down week by week>ignore this data please this means nothing everything is finelmao
>>563237397>Marasissy has been raped so hard Xer has become retardedMany such cases.
>>563237397this is your brain on marathon
Oh I see. The publicly available information about every single PC user currently playing Marathon is wrong but your bullshit information about player hours and data not possible for the public to see is correct. Right.
>>563237742already answered: >>563226039>>563238043>can see the number of users online go down week by weekalready addressed: >>563128480, >>563229763>ignore this data please this means nothing everything is fineI didn't say everything is fine, I argued how the data doesn't support your conclusion. Bungie rape victims can very well destroy the game by emotional campaigning.>>563238262didn't engage with the arguments, kys>>563238382not an argument, kys
>>563240059i would like to see a picture of your feet, you sound like a baddie
>>563240059such raped gape, and an eagerness to share it too.
>>563238476>information about every single PC user currently playing MarathonDoes not exist, you can only see the sum>your bullshit information about player hours and data not possible for the public to seedid not claim anything like this. I said it's not possible to know because the data is simply not available, speculated about structural reasons that cause steeper drop-off in CCU
>>563240537>structural reasonshave you factored in the game being a piece of sloppa shit that no one is playing by virtue of it being so?
>over 2 minutes to matchmake into outpost on both solos and crew fill at primetime NA eastim sure its fine
>Dire Marsh>snipers camping quarantineThis map is just fucking made for CBT
>>563240887Anon it's a Friday night, everyone is out with their friends and family. sUrElY it will pick up tomorrow
>always led to pinwheel by more confident teammates>need it for contract>slap on best gear>make the run for red key cards myself>in and out, prio contract from command wing done first try>gold cryo key tooIt really is that easy, but we had to fight off like 5 rooks back to back, they'd just pop out of the vents like a comedy routine.
>>563240059Marasissy, you give such entertainment with your thrashing about trying to convince anyone that Marathon is not a failing and dying game. Your struggle is so futile and yet you do not see how futile it is. You try to hide behind the reviews thinking the game was a success when it wasn't. You blame others for the game failing but you cannot come to the conclusion that, well the game itself puts people off because if you did... you'd kill yourself. Continue to seethe until Bungie falls little Marasissy, you lot always never fail to keep me entertained.
>>563240059>I argued how the data doesn't support your conclusion>Game cant retain its players>Players drop off>Can see this in the chart>Data doesnt support this conclusionBungie Marketing department, hire this man!
>>563225910>tldr I cant do itCheating isnt rampant looks like.
>>563240059Buddy, arguing with the dipshits infesting the thread is not productive. Just utilize the rape ape pictures for the occasional chuckle (I like >>563211956 personally so please kept that in mind rape ape poster) and engage with people who actually bring something worth talking about.
If Night Marsh isn't an extremely horrifying and rapeful experience this game will actually die
anyone want to be my friend?
>>563240790That's a painfully empty argument against the qualitative (reviews) and quantitative (player score) data about the game's quality>>563241158>thinking the game was a successnever said that, also, kys>>563241182oh no, it's retarded and can't read (hint: previous posts)>>563241476it's fine. Also, humiliating retards by exposing their vanity works to a degree even if it doesn't prevent them from devouring this one. Since their life depends on being coddled by their peers.
>>563241735There is no way to make this game scary if its trios. Trios turns the game into apex. Which is fine but its a different vibe compared to solo. Imagine solo night marsh. That will be the real fear simulator.
>>563242247I don't play Trios.
We make games that inspire rape
Destiny 2: the final rape
>>563242347
>>563242240>it's retarded and can't read (hint: previous posts)cope posts.>nuh uh ccu doesnt mean anything nuh uh!!!!!
SOMEONE IS QUESTIONING ZIEGLER'S VISION, SISTERS. DOWNDOOT HIM NOW!!!
>>563242247>Night Marsh>Trios only because it's big boy activity like cryoinb4
the last thread
>>563242692Like how moon phases affect stock market.CCU only means things because people believe it means something, but it's still a bad metric and is a very indirect and inaccurate measure player retention.Marathon's trajectory is being determined by a collective future projection by retards, not the fundamentals.
>CCU doesn't matter to live service slop
mani really really hope this game pulls throughi really do have fun with it despite its faults. it has huge potential. bungie devs need to snort a shit ton of adderall and figure out how to get people to play. its an uphill battle because so many people have concord 3 in their mind about the game.but everyone likes a good cumback story
>>563244151>bungie devs need to snort a shit ton of adderall and figure out how to get people to playLiterally slash the price and add an arena mode for people to dick around in while gaining some credits to help fund their next raid. That's it
>>563242812Who the fuck wants customisable gear Can RPG open world retards fuck off alreadyAll that would happen is meta loadouts would become prevalent. So everyone would be running destroyer shields with theif goggles or whatever and there would be 0 player interaction.
>>563243667If zero players are playing the game how does that not reflect player retention? Are you retarded?
>no you see, how many people are playing this game right now at this very moment doesnt acttually matter
>>563244414Have you heard of a little game called "Escape from Tarkov"?
I just witnessed an entire Cryo lobby wiped. Three teams fighting over a single exfil, bots everywhere, two teams who had done vaults, sec level 3 loot room opened, and the whole lobby died to a timeout.
>>563244414>actually advocating for what is at its essence a fucking hero shooter (t. valorant director) as opposed to freeform control of appearance and capabilitiesl o l (loving every laugh)
maratards are tards
Exfil: >>563244880Exfil: >>563244880Exfil: >>563244880
>500 credits to my name>no back packs>no green shieldsIs it... over for me bros? I don't like rook running on outpost so I was doing dire marsh. I can't sustain my green shields which means I am likely going to have to free kit relentlessly.
>>563244478Popularity and player retention are 2 completely different things.You can have 10 players initially and 10 players later, that's 100% retention. You can have 1000 players initially and 100 players after, that's 10% retention.CCU does not measure retention because it doesn't reflect actual NUMBER of players staying with the game.People also incorrectly interpret that playing more hours in different points of time is a sign of retention, when in reality, an initial obsessive playing streak (which indicates a game being GOOD) and then returning to normal play hours makes retention numbers WORSE compared to just playing normal amount all the time.CCU does NOT measure number of players quitting a game, it measures total hours a game is being played at a given moment.
>>563244895High IQ comment
>>563244895am one, can confirm
