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Roster poll for VGL26. This is not the previous suggestion survey. This is the full roster poll.https://forms.gle/JGzD43W8G7KEYXxg9Deadline: April 12th, 2:00 AM UTC
>>563248775https://jiggie.fun/redderwinterarchive7https://jiggie.fun/redderwinterarchive7https://jiggie.fun/redderwinterarchive7
great...
look
stop calling her smeg
>>563250057my proxies are on standby
The CHILD
My wife Hanuma Makoto and our Lovely daughter Ibuki.
Which one for the choice ticket?I'm thinking chiaki
takane's memorial is so good...
>>563250016THE CHILD
Elves are good for you
>>563250215AOMORI
Did we have a Yakumo thread OP yet?If not we should.
>>563250215objectively, Mine
>>563250215
>>563250218Fug my luck has been so bad these past 2 banners.
>>563250256I'm not just talking meta, but good characters
>>563250057Sneak peek results pls?
I'm an attention seeking faggot
>>563250215MineNYAkaribut mine is the most useful
>>563250396She is very good for you.
>>563250215Whoever you want to have sex with the most
>>563250396>please decide this subjective thing for meAre you retarded?
>>563250710Some characters are objectively better
>>563250440>let me see so I can rig it
https://magma.com/d/mKTbMWls0Qhttps://magma.com/d/mKTbMWls0Qhttps://magma.com/d/mKTbMWls0QThe nightgown aggie still has plenty of room, stop being lazy and come draw /bag/
>>563250745You're objectively a retard.
>>563250794but i have work tomorrow and i need to sleep
>>563250745fine. from best to worst>utaha>haruka>chiaki
>>563250350i almost had to spark because yakumo spooked me on TAKANE'S banner of all places
>>563250745Yeah pick Megu
>>563250956Takane is not for poors
>>563249961Aurora Borealis??at this time of year, at this time of day, in this part of Kivotos? localized entirely within Red Winter wilderness?
>>563250016rare mmj thread
I love Iroha
>Can clearly hear Yakumo's laugh is Mufufu in the actual textYou can tell localizers hated her. They hate every character that they refuse to translate their laughs correctly for.
>>563250060https://jiggie.fun/redderwinterarchive8https://jiggie.fun/redderwinterarchive8https://jiggie.fun/redderwinterarchive8
It may not seem like it, but this is a Hasumi general.
>>563251113yes
>>563251285GUH look at that ass, marina is packing
>>563251285God that chibi ass on qMarina
HNNNNGGGGGGGG TAKANE A BEAUT
>>563251231may i see it?
>>563251385>No deformed shoulderNot my Marina
>>563251285SEX WITH CHIBIS
>>563251285Chibidev does what the traitor couldn't
>>563251285wtf?marina's bakery is that big?
>>563250016the miij
>>563251825She will never get bond gear, and even if she did dHina exists
>>563251159https://jiggie.fun/redderwinterarchive9https://jiggie.fun/redderwinterarchive9https://jiggie.fun/redderwinterarchive9
>>563252135dhina doesn't have a flamethrower
>>563250016the child..
>>563250215Akari Shougatsu is good, but she’ll be outclassed by Kei later on.Kikyou is good for Kurokage and some JFD.Kotama Camp is a core character for Hod and can also be used in Wakamo Hovercraft.Mine is a good tank, with debuffs, mobility, and self-healing. She’s good for Kurokage, Gregorius, and to a lesser extent in other raids and JFD.Reijo, Marina Chipao, and Utaha Taiso Fuku are used in final restriction.The best choice is Mine but it depends on what you want or like.
>>563252931Why did she get bogged?
>>563252931we need more dragon students
>>563253118Renge should have wings
>>563250215base characters have priorityfor me it's meg and kannahonorable mention to nyHaruka for being adorable
>>563250215>>563250396Chiaki is a good girl
>>563253151she is an eastern dragon, not a western one, a winged dragon student would probably be from wildhunt or gehenna considering they don't do bat wings in trinity
koyuki
>>563253351Highlander maybe. I’ve been wanting a Highlander girl with huge eagle wings too.
SHE'S BACKhttps://x.com/Blue_ArchiveJP/status/2042800741740613664
>>563252931i'd fuck this
>>563253442that's not Riku
>>563253569fuck what
My prostate…
>>563252219https://jiggie.fun/redderwinterarchive10https://jiggie.fun/redderwinterarchive10https://jiggie.fun/redderwinterarchive10
>>563253678It quivers when you see Aoi
>>563253791true
why they scratch the fem sensei concept from the game?
I want to fuck Misuzu
>>563253791DESUWIDE
https://x.com/inksGirls/status/2042784057679909195?s=20
Akane Love!The Hour of the Dragon is here
>>563253584Kokona
>>563253791do we have some noja?
>>563253871>Fake image>Bait>Wannabe shitposter>femsei>there was never a femsei image from the gamepost hidden
>>563252931Ako Amau should be Melusine, not Konoka
>>563253441it would be pretty fucking kino if they made a highlander student with a poncho, cowboy hat and mysterious aura
>>563253950Konoka?Nonoka?
>>563253442Is this a good sign or a bad one?
Rate my PVP team bag
>>563254153rate mine
Ibuki
>>563254241that's not yours
https://x.com/Samess3333/status/2042452653914144948?s=20It's out
>>563252846Look at this fucking NERD throwing weeb terms around like Shougatsu and Taiso Fuku.Lmaoing @ (You)
well, which one bag?
>>563253889true
>>5632543942
>>563254357An army of little blonde, white girls would cure me.
>>563254394middle and rightleft looks fucking stupid
>>563254079I feel like Hina should’ve had Melu’s va but it works for Ako too
>>563254387
>>563253791The aristocratic beauties...
>>563254394>Hasumi, Airi, Seia
Post Tsukiyuki
>>563254674
>>563254394Right is tight
post it
>>563253749https://jiggie.fun/redderwinterarchive11https://jiggie.fun/redderwinterarchive11https://jiggie.fun/redderwinterarchive11
>>563254754
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>>563254256now do rating:e>40 post(s) on this page require a Gold account to view (learn more).
>>563254754Why is megu so cute?I still don't have her or Kasumi...
Can someone post mei or kotonoha?
Post nuts
>>563255118nuts
>>563255014Explicit
90% done.10% to go.
>>563255118
>>563254394MiddleWe love plain girls the most here.
I didn't know Momiji was a moron
>>563255382She's Russian
People will look at THIS and say Seia
"Fanzine" is such a dumb translation of "doujin"I dunno what's best, but "fanzine" is duuumb. Who even reads ANY magazines? And -zine is like, 90s as shit.
Planazine
>>563255497oh, right, and it doesn't even cover all the things doujin can be.Should just say indie comic or indie fancomic, indie fangame etc
>>563255476People will look at THIS and Seia*
>>563255530Is it not Planatize?
>>563255732i want to sniff her crotch
>>563255601Localizers are retarded, like actually retarded, if you don't whip them constantly and send in tickets telling them to stop that shit, they always escalate into more retarded "translations"Saw a localizer just yesterday claiming that "If you ever enjoyed or were moved by anything in a japanese story before, it was due to me the translator, not the story itself. I made the story good". Like they actually look down on Japanese shit most of the time and want to change it, which is one reason they like to remove terms that are too japanese.https://x.com/nonetosee/status/2042340227046342865?s=20
>>563255861Didn't ask.
>>563255497
>open Momiji momotalk>getThis actually reminds me though: I wish that you would meet other students in momotalks now and then. I always felt it was a bit weird how restrictive it is. It seems a mandate so it will never happen, but it's a shame imo and can make some of them feel formulaic since there's less you can do with them.Trickcal does a mix of "sometimes you're with the character and that's it" and "sometimes another character shows up and talks with both of you". Though, it also does "sometimes the MC is entirely absent" which is lame
>>563254786https://jiggie.fun/redderwinterarchivendhttps://jiggie.fun/redderwinterarchivendhttps://jiggie.fun/redderwinterarchivend
>>563255939I know japanese and that's why I complain about shitty localizations. Are you a localizer or something? Are you feeling hurt?
>>5632543944th on the left
>>563255991they should make group story of every mobs, they are all your students
>>563255861>I made the story goodthere are SO MANY who think like this, especially since they will actively change, remove, and shift elements because (sadly) most publishers and authors literally do not give the slightest fuck about foreign markets--because unfortunately it is more cost effective to not give a shit. You would have to make COLOSSAL, DEVESTATING errors (of which, personally I have only seen once where I think someone made a character trans from a manga, or something like that) before the controversy rises enough to be a serious problem. We have too many examples of most people simply not giving a shit that they're getting inferior work
Kei > Hina
Isn't it about time for spring event limited banner?
>>563256041Do you have trouble comprehending text? Read again and answer why you are reading poor localizations when you can read the original text?
>>563255757I want to inch my head closer and closer slowly and then have her suddenly leglock me softly
>>563256461It's not poor enough to think throw the baby out with the bathwater, and I'm of the mind that fixing is better than condemning. I also have an interest in making sure people can read and enjoy works in as many languages as possible. Learning another language is not something "anyone" can do. Why not improve the translation?
>>563255991>I wish Ako's momotalks were just about Hina, how much she loves Hina, her love of hina, and how much she loves Hina>Kaho's momotalks should be all about Chise the only thing she cares about, so she can be a much more narrow character>Ahh, Tomoe, now there's the perfect momotalks with how she talks about nothing but CherinoThere's a certain sayingA man shouldn't demand a fence be torn down, without knowing why the fence was put up to begin withMomotalks having a silent rule that other students are not allowed to show up or be mentioned, forces the momotalk to JUST be about the relationship with sensei and the girl the momotalk is about. The only reason Midori has even 1% of a personality is because she's not allowed to make her momotalks about Momoi, so she's forced to develop a personality of her ownThe only reason Hikari and Nozomi have personalities is because they are not allowed to bring up their twin, so they have to show who they are individually. If you allowed other students to be mentioned in Momotalks, Ako would have no popularity, because literally all her momotalks would just be about her wanting to fuck Hina. Because they removed her ability to talk about Hina, she was able to form an individual relationship with sensei outside of Hina.Mobs aren't real people so they don't really count during momotalks
Marry your students.
>>563256962I didn't say any of that, retard
>>563256375https://x.com/Ko_loli9292/status/2042818169216340162?s=20
I think
>>563256013Thanks for playing!
>>563254394>Hasumi>Ichika>Koharu
This is actually something rare I do appreciate about BA's localization.I don't fucking get this. This is not actually a localization issue but a Japanese one and it's always frustrated me.>AkiizumiThat's correct. That's how it is written and pronounced. Thing is, the Japanese think that romanization like this is ugly. That's why 東京 is always written as Tokyo. It's not PRONOUNCED like Tokyo. It's not even pronounce To-o-kyo-o. It's pronounced Toukyou, and you can hear it said that way and spoken that way, not like "Tokyo" (which genuinely sounds very different)They do this with their names as well. Yuuki -> Yuki. Different pronunciation, but their romanized as the wrong thing. Akiizumi, in most "professional" localizations, would be written as Akizumi./rant I just hate this one little thing especially since it's unironically burned me IRL a few times, with people writing their names incorrectly with English letters, then not really getting why I "pronounce it wrong"
>>563257353I was nooticing a patternSo I placed some piecesThanks
>>563256992That's the plan!
Does Koyuki's pajama have a pee opening so I can fuck her while she's still wearing it?
Who the hell is using such bathrooms?
>>563257425Most people here probably don't even notice student last names much
>>563254153rank?
also who the fuck dog-ears books, and why?Is it that hard to find bookmarks? Even impromptu ones
>>563257425Akiizumi is a bad example to illustrate your point because even when you're following the romanization standard where the "u"s and "o"s and double vowels are omitted from the end of a syllable in romanization, you still preserve repeated vowels when the vowels are in separate kanji. In Akiizumi's case it's written like 秋泉 with Aki and Izumi being separate kanji, so it's actually Aki-izumi, you don't combine the "i"s in any circumstance.
I don't think Momiji and Ui would get along (still haven't read the RW event, but will when I can)
>>563257432Keep nooticing and in no time you'll be a jig master!
>>563256962He said all of that, good job telling him what’s what.
>>563257807I didn't say you did, and it's a good example. If you know dead basic japanese, I don't need to explain that. When a vowel is next to a vowel in japanese, it's always 2 separate sounds.
Is Aris autistic?
Poor ArisTranslate pls btw
>>563255991That would be bad for a number of reasons including the ones already mentioned. One of the few big issues with ba’s main story them not giving some students any content while giving a massive amount to others, and momotalks are excellent because they avoid this by absolutely focusing on a specific student.
>>563258217I don't translated garbage. Go dip it in a machine.
https://x.com/i/status/2042830001347715299
Cute Meruhttps://x.com/i/status/2042830001347715299
>>563258330I don't see how it would be bad to have brief and minor interactions here or there, the stories are good for the very reason that there's time spent with various characters rather than a few.
>>563258217>いきなり積極的に…。>ギィ…>誰かいるのかい?>うる…うる…>せんせい…!>アリス!!
>>563258348What did NTR do to you, lad?Come on tell me
>>563256461Think about what exactly you're accomplishing in the big picture by insistently deflecting discussion and criticism of translation with "hurr durr just don't consume it".
>>563258390You have the mini stories or group stories for that, and events and the main story, and they further prove why momotalks should entirely focus on one student because all of those continue the issue of screentime being very lopsided and affected by favoritism.
How much VRAM do I need to setup my own LLM that can MTL BA doujinshi? My goal is to mtl every content available online.
>>563258678If anything that's what makes Momotalks feel so "off", because it's the only place here suddenly everything is highly isolated.I also don't think it's crazy to say "there could be something iffy" about momotalks in general, especially given nearly every BA player aquires a mountain of them at best and never touches them at worst
>>563258773That’s on them for not reading them. They have a purpose and are in some ways more important than any other content because they avoid that issue. Because the rest of the stories have it so much it means the only way to avoid it is to not show focus on any other student. Making students with less focus get even less would be bad.
>>563258747I don't care if you MTL stuff for your personal pleasure, but please don't ever upload that shit anywhere. It's a fucking ghoulish landscape trying to sort out real translations with effort put into them from the slop "translations" these days.
>>563259029>That’s on them for not reading themOn MOST people?Most people read main, event, mini, and group stories, and it's a literal world-wide all players of all languages meme to not be that interested in momotalks. You think that's a player issue rather than a content issue?It's to the point where a meme is "it's a stash for pyros", not something compelling to engage with.
>>563258390Slippery slope is a real thing, whether people want to admit it or not. If you allow someone else to show up in a characters momotalks or the momotalks to be about someone else, then 1000% you can guarantee momotalks will start being entirely about other characters or momotalks will start being about NPCS The instant you let it happen, all of Ako's momotalks will now be about Hina.The thing you aren't getting is that the only thing that separates BA from a lot of other gacha games is momotalks focus ONLY on the relationship between sensei and the student in question, no one is allowed to get in-between that relationship, it needs to focus on only the student in question and sensei without mentioning anyone else or being about someone else. BA has no main heroine so that every girl can be the heroine, momotalks is a girl playing heroine, it's basically their routeYou want to kill that aspect and make momotalks exactly the same as GBF fate episodes of FGO interludes where the fate episode is now about the students bond with someone else entirely, or the scene is about the students relationship with someone else. Your insistence at changing things without understanding why something exists to begin with will kill the reason why the game works without understanding what you even did wrong Group episodes exist to show a story of a groupMini episodes exist to have a random story about two students togetherBut momotalks HAVE to only be about sensei and the girl in questionYou want to turn momotalks into "actually if should be about Momoi and Midori's bond together and their relationship" you've effectively written sensei out of the story entirely. A girl during her heroine moment is now no longer the heroine, because you wanted it to be about someone else entirely. Because you confused the fact that momotalks are not meant to be ministories, both those things serve different points
>>563259161This isn't true and is again retarded, stop replying to me with retarded shit I didn't say.There's no reason in an Ako story, you couldn't have someone like fucking Aru show up or literally whoever. Ako's momotalks already don't deal with Hina, you can just do that and have more colors to paint with.
>>563258773>Newfags joins the fanbase>Demands everything change and the game be written differently because he doesn't "get it"Tale as old as time Holy shit
>>563259151You can say that about any story. A meme is that gacha players don’t read. And people are more likely to read the momotalks of their favorites than the main story if they’re going to be not reading much. I’m sorry that you want this to be like mihoyo shit or something but it’s the way it is for a reason. I’m starting to think this is just a weird shitpost because I don’t think anyone who plays BA could legitimately think this.
>>563259273degradation of a fanbase/hobby.jpg
>>563259409>You can say that about any storyNo I can't, and don't bullshit me by saying I can. You know damn well that isn't true. Blue Archive's story is its most highly discussed aspect.>like mihoyo shit Literally never mentioned, I mentioned Trickcal, and you're a fucking idiot.
Let me guess, this is the same faggot that goes "momotalks aren't canon"?
>>563259273>newfagKill yourself.>>Demands everything changeSeriously, kill yourself. Fucking christ what a fucking baby
>>563259547It's incredible how stupid you are if you genuinely think this.
>>563259485Momotalks are included in that set of discussion. Countless fanart and discussion about students involve stuff that only happens in momotalks, and some students are able to be popular even without being in the main story because their momotalks do such a good job of showing their appeal. Again you want this to be like mihoyo or something and next thing you’re going to start doing is saying you want yuri and shit. You’re a brainless ape.
>>563259552At least you didn’t accidentally post a chinese screenshot this time
>>563259654>Momotalks are included in that set of discussionMm-mm, no, again don't lie about that. You know that isn't true. Don't pretend that it is. People seriously barely ever mention them because again, people don't read them very often. I don't exactly know why you're pretending that isn't true or I'm talking crazy or something when, again, this is an extremely prevalent issue for players of this game.Stop mentioning mihoyo, retard. You're the one between us who supposedly knows how that works, but I do not.
>>563259751I legitimately dunno what you mean by that. How would I even do that? It's the JP client
>>563259552Bro, your 青輝石 stash for the April limiteds??
>>563259994I'm just hoping nothing interesting will happen for a while
>>563259773Okay yeah so back to what I was saying, you’re an assblasted retard and the game is better because momotalks aren’t what you want them to be. They are discussed and included in art, as are valentines, very very often. Hell look at Miyo’s art where a ton of it references her momotalk. Dumbass ape. The only issue is the main story not taking more of an initiative to give individual focus more. I really doubt you play if you want momotalks to revolve around other students and take away focus from the student they’re supposed to be for. And if you do play and still think this then again you’re an absolute retard.
>>563258773The simple explanation is that most people are just not going to be interested in every single character. Combined with the sheer number of them, that's why people only read the momos they are interested in, leaving the rest for later, and that's why they accumulate. I don't think it has anything directly to do with the way they are written compared to the rest of the game whatsoever. They serve their purpose.
>>563259552Get a trip already.
>Big main volume centered around Arius and Trinity, with plenty of callbacks to beloved vol 3>already forgotten>players barely cared about the new Arius cast like Maia and Subaru>one-off events about Wild Hunt massively overshadowed the main story volume in popularity and actual interesting characters.>now mogged by vol EX in both story and character popularityHow did this happen? I thought people here swore that this volume was amazing and people will see its brilliance once it got released in global?
/bag/ used to rule /vg/...what happened to us?
>no no NO the girls should be for other girls ITS TOO PROBLEMATIC FOR THEM TO BE FOR SENSEI THIS IS LITERALLY DESTROYING YEARS OF LGBT ACTIVISIMkekaroo
>>563260091Valentines are but don't bring them into this like they're the same category.Miyo is particularly popular, not a great boat to cling to. Let's talk about Ritsu and Fuyu? Haven't you read their momotalks?>Dumbass apeWhat a faggot.>>563260097I do think it has a lot to do with that. If people are willing to read everything but them, that means that they aren't compelling. You probably shouldn't really settle for "Well, they just read the ones for characters they like", should you? If literally everything is good, then everything will be consumed. In reality, most momotalks aren't that interesting, and a few absolutely stand out like OShigure, Mika, or Rabu for example. But then there's stuff like Momiji's which aren't much of anything, or year 1 trash like Shiroko's where almost nothing happens
>>563260224That's cool, it's cool to schizo out and pretend anyone is saying that
>>563260224Is this implying all the main stories are LGBT because girls talk to each other in them?
So this is what I've been missing out on when it's SEA hours? How awful, guess it's time to go back to sleep
>>563260329I don’t have them yet. And again the students who aren’t in stories or events that are popular wouldn’t be popular if their momotalks were just shoving them aside to focus on someone else. It’s good that momotalks are the devs obviously acknowledging the existence of such an issue as seen in many other games, and doing something to remedy it, even if the rest of the game still struggles with that issue. Miyo is far from the only example and valentines are absolutely in the same boat as momotalks, and I can tell you’d be wanting them to focus on other students too if that wouldn’t make your agenda too obvious.
>>563260224>Momoiposter can't readTale as old as time
>>563260540The main story isn’t called relationship stories. You would know this if you played and weren’t a retard.
>>563260615How about Rei? What were her momotalks like?
>>563260695Oh, okay, so the group stories are LGBT according to you. Like group sex, girls talking to each other is yuri, right
>Your studentwife finally gets released after years of being made to wait for her>You read her momos>It's all about some other girls and you barely get any time alone with herThis would kill the game, unironically
4channers spend more time reading daily repetitive shitposts than reading classical literature. This means that those are not compelling according to the retarded logic of the momohater.
>>563260615>and I can tell you’d be wanting them to focus on other students too if that wouldn’t make your agenda too obvious.You're fucking so fucking stupid, fucking eat cyanide you fucking moron who the fuck would want other characters in valentine's content?
>>563260714I’ll tell you when she spooks me. I’ve read Kanoe’s and mSuzumi’s if you want a recent release. I’m glad you finally admitted you have no argument outside of wanting the game to be like mihomo shit.
>>563260765I like that. I like pretending that that's what anyone asked for at all, it's very cool and not retarded at all.
>>563260851Why the fuck do you keep bringing uo Mihoyo games, do you play them? You seem to know all about them.>coincidentally is only mentioning popular character momotalks
>>563260765>Read Seia momos>It's all about Nagisa and Mika
>>563260758>>563260819Kek tranny melty because they can’t even get their hand in the door in BA
>>563260765>read volume 3>Azusa and Hifumi talk to each other>have a meltdown, quit the game, ask for refunds
>>563260924>suzumi>popular characterIt's like watching a comedy at this point
He's put in a heroic effort so I know it's not some idle shitposting
>>563261021What?
>>563261056MSuzumi is a limited character and like nearly all of those, got a surge of engagement with her release.We can absolutely pretend that didn't happen for your argument, however.
enjoy a good saggin
>>563261149don't spell that backwards...
Next April fools they should release new momo chats for every girl and have them talk about their boyfriend
>>563261125>>563261056forgot my pic. It's almost all MSuzumiIn case I get some shitpost telling me the image is manipulated https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?tags=suzumi_%28blue_archive%29
>>563260765It's what retards here want apparently, they'll endlessly jack themselves off over how everything needs to change to suit the retarded thing they just decided >Hey I just came here from GBF and I'm wondering why this games fate episodes aren't written more like GBF where the fate episodes are about the girls relationships with other people and she gets shipped with other people or she develops a relationship with some NPC character who she helps out in her momotalks, why does it have to be about sensei(ugh)>This is very problematic how you guys are different, you need to change immediately.
>>563260924Because, retarded monkey, even if I’ve never even started one I’ve had to see them talked about. And I am very glad BA isn’t like that. Who do you consider unpopular? A big part of what made mSuzumi be rather big was that she hadn’t had much content before then and she herself was one who mostly only had her momotalks before then. Coincidentally you only ask about new students that most people don’t have yet because you have to be dishonest.
>>563261149made for sensei dick
>>563261193Ah shit, nipples, I'll brace for a ban but I am deledting the image
>>563261175gems
>>563261175Why would I ever spell something backwards...
>>563261175taht?
>>563261251I haven't. Are you the kind of monkey who sees and thus, does? You're hanging out somewhere where you "have to see" them talked about? Where?>Coincidentally you only ask about new students that most people don’t have yet because you have to be dishonest.Let's talk about Shimiko then. What happened in her momotalks? I unironically know.If you're going to say monkey monkey monkey to that because Shimiko is year 1, how about Hinata?
>A girls valentines shouldn't just be about her, other girls should appear in it, and it shouldn't be about her giving chocolate to sensei, it should be about her giving chocolate to some other girl. Why does it have to be about sensei every time? Does this make you uncomfortable? You're just entitled if you don't want other girls appearing in a girls valentines scene.This guy just keeps doubling down
>>563261193>>563261272Obviously I’ve read Suzumi’s momotalks too, why do you pretend they’re not the same character? Are you actually just schizophrenic or retarded, or both?
seia
I have no games to play in my phone after dailies anymore. Please help.
>>563261229Who wants that? Nobody has asked for that, only the delusions in your head have.>>563261408What are you fuckin' talking about? Maybe read the posts you're quoting again, they're replying to someone laughing at the idea of Suzumi being popular. I responded by reminding them MSuzumi gave Suzumi a large boost in attention, because it did.
>>563261229That anon has been playing for 5 years. I disagree with their take and think momotalks should be solo only but they're not the "guy who just came from GBF" you have in your head.
>>563261407True, I remember saying that >>563260819
I think I'm noticing something
Kill Saori. Atsuko is for me
>>563261447Wild Rift and Dissidia
>>563261447Go to /v/ or /wsr/ dumbass. Dolls Nest
>>563260924>>563261193>popular>fanart she is in only makes up 0.2% out of the entire game's artShit man guess every character is popular at this rate
>>563261337When the fuck will she be playable?
>ongoing session>ongoing session>ongoing sessionWHICH OF YOU FAGGOTS IS IT
>>563261491Because you only mention new characters that not many people rolled for when asking. I’ve read Suzumi’s long before mSuzumi released and people have discussed her momotalks before too. Saying that most of Suzumi’s recent art is mSuzumi doesn’t somehow disprove that before that she only had her momotalks and they let her have time to shine.>>563261397Her l2d momo was about searching for a book with her. And you think it’d be better if instead Mika came in and did everything instead.
>>563261495Basically, I'm saying that characters showing up doesn't diminish intimate moments. Mine has a moment in volume 6 that is literally more intimate that anything in her momotalks (and valentine's for that matter, but w/e that's a different discussion) but it is not sullied in any way from the facts that Mine is not the protagonist of v6, that many other characters are in v6, or that she's in v6 with other characters explicitly. Her character grows from their presence if anything and leads to something extremely heartfelt.Actually, Nagisa has that too. Her momotalks are particularly bad come to think of it (talking only regular Nagisa) but in V6 you have a very nice one on one with her.
>>563261447I'd say you could always start an argument here, but that guy who wants every momotalk to involve Hina already did sorry
>Wake up and the schizo's are already in full swingGuess that's one way of getting me to stop procrastinating and do my GA.
>>563261149two-hundred and forty megubytes
>>563261816
>>563261820Mine does but not everybody gets that. And that’s the issue of why momotalks shouldn’t be like the main story or events, because momotalks let everyone have their moments.
>>563261818>Her l2d momo was about searching for a book with herI didn't ask for that, I asked what her momotalks were about and you also ignored Hinata.Shimiko spends most of her momotalks speaking with you quite closely. You also learn that she's extremely strong. They're some of the most entertaining momotalks in the game monkeyHinata has somewhat meh momotalks that roughly just focus on who she is as a character, which is "clumsy" and "earnest". They're fine if you like Hinata, but little more. They do have (unseen, iirc) mob character interactions however monkey
>>563261825It's over for me. I'm gonna have to read books again.
Momotalks obviously are doing something right. Gehenna has no main story of their own. Their events mostly turn them into their one repetitive gag. Gehenna students having any fans at all means that momotalks did their job of providing solo characterization to endear them to some people.
dick burns after masturbate
>>563261952I neglected to mention Shimiko has her deal with mob characters, it's part of why I remember her momos so clearly. It's a pretty crazy moment and again, no, I didn't think less of Shimiko because of it. If anything it made me wonder why she rarely shows up in anything, because she's fun and she bounces off of other characters and sensei well
>>563261447You should buy a bluetooth controller and emulate retro games on your phone
All I'm saying is that Hina should appear in every Gehenna student's momos, Mika should appear in every Trinity student's momos, and Hoshino should appear everywhere else. We want a majority people to read them so they have to include the most popular characters
>>563261952I’ve read both of them and the l2d momo is often the biggest part of them. I can’t remember every single one I’ve read off the top of my head, but that’s just you trying your best to avoid my point because you can’t debate against it. Dumbass chimp.
>>563262052This...is not false, technically, gookakoGehenna students unironically have some of the best momotalks. Very few of them are NOT distinct, and a lot are memorable. Even Juri has really nice momotalks
>>563261825>about to have sex with Kisaki in her momotalk>Hina shows upNot again...
>>563262094cute bra
>>563262139>the l2d momo is often the biggest part of themJust like with Atsuko, right? Where her biggest moment is her "having flowers"?Not the sex ed joke, just the l2d.To be honest with you I don't understand why you're so fucking salty about anyone criticizing anything or saying X or Y would be nicer, and you keep clinging to 12 year old type insults that just make me roll my eyes, it's why I was mocking you. You keep saying the same thing.
>>563262052Case in point. I think most of the Gehenna students are endearing even before their momos though. There's enough one liners or short stories or daft things like the Izumi / Aru phone call earlier on.Momos across the board are really good, especially recently. I do think Gehenna got some really nice ones like nyIzumi and Satsuki's though.
Whenever Hina's not on screen, all the other characters should be asking, "Where's Hina?"
Is this dumbass still going? Holy fuck.
>>563260329It indirectly has to do with it. Because the momotalks are made to be all about a specific character, by design. That's why your attitude towards a character is the primary factor worth weighing more, that's why I feel justified to settle it with that. You read everything else if you're interested in the overall story, but momos are not that. And chances are, if you're willing to read literally everything else, every bit of content there is, you'll read the momos too. I don't think the group of people who specifically read absolutely everything except momos is as large as you think, though I have nothing to base this on.Yeah, some of them can be shit, but this isn't because of any fundamental flaw in their overall writing principles.
>>563262139>I can’t remember every single one I’ve read off the top of my headgee I wonder why
>>563262262Yes, with Atsuko as well, her l2d momo is the climax of her momotalks. The rest of them matter too, just that’s the most memorable part. But you’re still avoiding the actual discussion because you know I’m right. You’d like if Atsuko’s momotalks focused on Saori instead and had sensei talking with Saori the whole time.
New player here. Which champion should I reroll for?
>>563262425Reroll for Babycorn in 67 Goon Mode
>>563262425Ako
>Open Iori momotalk>It's about Hina>Open fuuka momotalk>It's about Hina again, Fuuka is teaching Hina to cook today, as sensei just watches>Open Chinatsu momotalk>You better believe it's about Hina, Hina helps chinatsu do her paperwork to show what a good boss she is, sensei doesn't show up >Open Alice momotalks>It's about her inviting Hina over to play video games>Sensei decides to go home early to not bother them, the girls enjoy a nice day playing video games together aloneWow, you sure made our game better by making momotalks much more like every single other gacha game on the market in all the worst ways Who cares about focusing on the relationship between sensei and the girls, momotalks should be about the girls and the girls, who cares that's why ministoeies already exist, let's ruin momotalks as well just to suit one guy
>>563262384>her l2d momo is the climax of her momotalksIt, isn't realyl. It's just a resused CBT asset because they couldn't be fucked to make something more compelling in the new context of her character. She's already been working with flowers before the L2D, so it basically just comes up arbitrarily. It's about the same as Shiroko's where all it is is just "she's sitting on a desk and you kind of scold her a bit". It's far from Shiroko's highlighted moment.A lot of L2Ds are a culmination, but that isn't really true of all of them. Quite a few of them also arive at the literaly start so idk why you'd say that. Like Hanako's is just her sitting and reading
>>563262089Same. I hate dry jacking it with no lube since I'm cut.
>go to subway to get to my work>bump into a woman>"oh excu-">she turns around>it's Hina
>>563262384also>You’d like if Atsuko’s momotalks focused on Saori instead and had sensei talking with Saori the whole time.Can't you fucking read? Why you said the same about Ako and Hina, I said "no, you could bring in Aru or literally anyone", and you ignored that. You could literally have Atsuko meet Junko or fuckin' Shiroko and it could be interesting because Atsuko is a character with strong banter and a unique perspective. You also wouldn't need to have any cameo last long, you could have a character appear for a few seconds to remind players that Kivotos is a gigantic place, and get some possibly entertaining moments where you don't discuss the cameo character but discuss Atsuko's reaction to her. A big part of Atsuko's character is how little she knows and how much she wants to learn, why NOT give her more experiences? Her fucking most entertaining moment in the entire game is her being amazinf in Arius Summer where she's barely ever with Saori and is mostly fucking around with Hiyori and Misaki, or beating up dogs
>>563262534If you're going to argue with a strawman, do it in a notebook rather than in public. Nobody asked for Hina in everything and nobody asked for momotalks to be "obsessed" with another character ever
https://x.com/1Meyu/status/2042605384754696399why is sensei like this
>>563262052Iroha being one of the most popular students without being in anything except her momos and one event is impressive. Speaks volumes to how great of a girl she is.
>>563262828pervert cat
>>563262534>making momotalks much more like every single other gacha game on the marketExcept Priconne, but everyone likes to forget about the game BA based most of its mechanics and storytelling off of.
Iroha flopped
>>563263005retard. almost nothing in priconne is original
>>563263005
Onto my bed
>>563263005>Read Priconne individual stories>Get bricked, now your princess is useless for PVP and CBNah
>>563263083I'm not saying it's original. I'm saying BA took a lot of stuff from it in particular, including how bond stories work.
>>563263005I can't speak for storytelling, but having scene Priconne's mechanics--no, it isn't based on that. Well, we know what it's based on (X COM). I think the only things it took from Priconne were not invented by it (in terms of gameplay only): that characters attack automatically, and you can select a skill for them based on a common cost pool.A more direct Priconne influence of mechanics would be Trickcal which is 2D sidescrolling and...well, really, just the same as Priconne.What BA very obviously took from Priconne overall would be "structure" afaik. Convenience and such are very clearly aped from it
my Iroha? floppedmy Hina? wankedmy Hoshino? retardedmy Jumbalaya? abusiveSerikamy seia? sexy
>>563263134>>Get bricked, now your princess is useless for PVP and CBQRD?
>BA is a Priconne cloneWtf I thought we were original...
>>563263284Nothing is original.
>>563263120why do they know i like school uniforms???
>I just started playing this game but why aren't the sensei x student bond scenes about other girls instead. It should really be a group story instead, why does it have to focus just on sensei and the girl? This needs to be changed immediately to be about the entire group, if feels wrong. Yes this is the one part of the game that actually focuses on the bond between sensei and the girl, but it feels wrong, it needs to change to involve all of them. I just, I just need it changed I don't like it.
>>563263005No one talks about Priconne relationship stories because no one reads them for meta. People used to yell BRICKED if you read certain ones because the extra stats would fuck up their TP gain.
BA is an angel beats clone
>>563263386No, what I said is that I love beating off to angels
>>563263284The more things change...I recognize even some of the ritual posters...
>>563261272I'm going to thermite white
>>563262732Plot twist, it was the Hikari momotalk where you were on the train to meet with Haruna. The only Hikari mention is that she walks past and stamps your ticket in the middle of the Hina funny moments
>>563263467We should steal their OJ lobbies. Seriously, those faggots have been doing it ever friday for like 2 years at this point
>>563263338C&C is very talkative
>>563263261Priconne's TP gauge was based on damage taken which meant that increasing defense reduced your gauge buildup and fucked up your timings
Why is anyone at all arguing about other characters showing up in momos?Do they quit out when a robot or cat or dog or whatever shows up? Or a mob student? Because that happens all the time
upgrading your units = brick is priconne original lmao
>>563263261It's an outdated mechanic that only global players talk about, Priconne fixed it years ago and you can read all of the relationship stories without worry of bricking your account now. On the other hand though the game has added a whole bunch of P2W bullshit and made 95% of new characters limited by default now so it's not worth playing anymore.
>>563263362Cool, nobody said that. Who are you quoting?
>>563263550>Karin calling Neru by her nameMajor reason why I'll never read anything asian in english translated.
>>563250016
>>563263579The writers don’t switch focus to mobs or npcs like they would another student
I desperately want to see this. This would be hilarious
Nightly... Fun?
>>563263579People are primarily arguing against making momos of character X all about character Y instead, which is an argument that guy wasn't making to begin with, because some people here are braindead.
>>563263691Do you think if another student appeared, at all, that the writers would immediately focus everything on them? That's not how it works in anything, not even main stories. Like there's a moment in volume 6 where we see Kotori, Hibiki, and Sumire, but the story doesn't focus on them. Would the writers forget how to focus just because they used another character?
Jingle opens a bag of chips but everyone other than her eats it instead
>>563263386It's closer to Aquarion than Angel Beats setting-wise
>>563263842So she opens it and it explodes, that kind of thing?
When is BA introducing the Chroma arc?I wanna fight Evil Aris and Mika Terror.
FUCK JUNKO
>>563263997Yes, fuck her
i dont care for jumboshrimp
>>563263926I hope she felt a fraction of the pain I felt when she FUCKING PUNCHED ME
>>563263785You misunderstand, it’s the writer favorites that would be absorbing focus in other momotalks, like they do when they appear in the other stories. I shudder to imagine gourmet momotalks with Haruna or even worse Hina appearing in them. I like them but you know how it goes and that shouldn’t happen in momotalks.
kanoe is a lot cuter than i thought
>>563264050Was she being genuine here?
>>563264036
>>563264050>THIS IS A CERTIFIED HOOD CLASSIC>TRAPOHOLICS MIXTAPES>DAMN SENSEI, WHERE'D YOU FIND THIS?
Regarding Kanoe evil twin, does she really have a doppelganger or was she trolling us the entire time?
>>563264047That doesn't make sense, otherwise Neru and Hina would actually show up as much as people pretend Hina does, given we've seen their offices and know their preferences.The lead writer is also a Kayafag but Kaya is still in prison.
>>563264089she's being frank
>>563263579>Why don't you want Iori's momotalks to be about her friendship with Hina instead? You people are just stupid for not wanting that. It's great. It doesn't Always need to be about sensei you know, other girls should appear in bond scenes and be involved with the stories so it can be about them instead, it should really be more of a group story.
>>563264159Did I say this? I mentioned the mob characters because they appear but the focus isn't taken away from the student you're with. Is that unreasonable?
what killed the shitposting?
>>563264139>The lead writer is also a KayafagBased?
>>563264125She does. Kanoe said so and I trust her.
>>563263440
>>563263780All about another character would indeed suck, but if they can bring moments like Saori crying with you and asking to sleep with you out of a main story in spite of that main story not being "about" Saori, I'm pretty sure they could figure out how to make momotalks intimate as well if other characters just...showed up.
>>563264274Note I'm not making that up. I am too lazy to source it, but it's that glasses guy right? It was in a dev interview and he explained that the moment he saw Kaya in that GSC lineup he knew she was a villain, and he asked to write a story with her (he wasn't lead at the time)
>>563264139For an example. every time they appear in the main story or events, Haruna is given the most focus by far, and if Hina can somehow be involved she will be and become the focus even more, this also happened in the 3rd anniversary and many other times.
>>563264089You will never know. Isn't that spooky?
>>563264227Why even continue replying to somebody who's clearly either trolling or is genuinely mentally challenged? Just let him continue seething about Hina into the void by himself.
>>563264089i think she was
>>563264089No. When she puts on that cutesy voice she's fucking with you.
>>563264379The writers have shown several times they cannot help themselves from doing that unless they are literally barred from including other students. See >>563264447
Need smelly, gone one week without bathing, buddy underboob sweat stench funneled into my nasal cavity
>>563264551>gone one week without bathingThey bathe at Schale every day now.
>>563264549I mean, I've read every main story and Hina didn't interrupt anything in volume 6>She showed up!!!Yeah...? Because Saori shot Sensei in front of her, and Saori was on an apology tour.
Hina will save the game.We need Vol Gehenna to focus on her.
>>563264495she was using her normal voice here tho
>>563263780It's the same, whether you realize it or not. If you allow it then it takes over, if you allow Hina to be mentioned and show up in Ako's momotalks she will become the focus, and the story will suddenly shift to be about Hina and Ako, and not Ako and sensei. The reason people generally don't care for Tomoe's momotalks is because they were written back before this rule existed, and her momotalks are just her talking about Cherino, because she was allowed to talk about Cherino, it became her only character. Talking about other character heavily becomes a crutch for a lot of characters, I can tell you now Nozomi wouldn't have a character at all if she was allowed to mention Hikari, all her momotalks would be "my sister said" or "let me tell you about my sister", it would take over her character. Forbidding talking about other characters forces a character to have to talk about themselves and to build a genuine relationship with sensei that doesn't involve a crutch character which isn't what you want, but it's what other people want. There's a lot of characters who show up but absolutely are not characters in the main story because they cannot be characters when a certain other character is present, the gourmet character are an example of this. When they exist as a collective they do not exist as characters, it's just Haruna and the orbiters. It's only by removing them from each other that they become characters. You want Junkos momotalks to have Haruna show up, and for Junko to mention Haruna, which instantly reverts her to the non character she is in main story exactly because she instantly becomes a backup dancer in her own momotalk. It's only because we removed her from her group that she could become a character on her own, because she couldn't use the crutch anymore If you remove the ability for a momotalk to focus on a character, guess what instantly happens?
>>563264609Tongue baths don't count.
>>563264636I must be misremembering, I'll look at it again
>>563264379I'm not obsessed with making strawmen like some /bag/ folk and I don't think letting other characters appear every once in a while is gonna jettison momotalks into being all about Hina or Neru or whatever but I still respect the decision to make it all about the one student in question and nobody else. It's a simple, clean-and-cut rule to follow rather than more vague stuff like "only one other student appareance, and only X amount of lines allowed with her", etc.
>>563264612Almost every time and Saori is another writer favorite
Who writes momotalks?
this is getting too organic for me
Would you eat her egg /bag/?
>>563264697me
>>563264701kei sex
>>563264671Personally, I dislike it just 'cause I find it jarring compared to all other story content, and I think it's limiting too. I am also really quite sure that if they didn't follow that rule, momotalks would basically overall get more eyes on them and be more memorable since it's another opportunity for students who never interact, well, to (which pretty much has always led to the most fun stories in the game, like Arius seeing Abydos kids with their masks on)I think it's like, "fine but a little awkward". It's not something I hate, but it is something I think is a bit below potential
>>563264680I don't think that explains Mine or Nagisa's moments in the same volume
Saki is such a boy
>ctrl+f: momotalk>95 results
>>563264836Momotalks are what let students without presence elsewhere get memorable moments. And you want that gone and given to the same students who are almost always the focus in everything else. If anything it's the main story and events that should change.
>>563264648>if you allow Hina--I was about to read the whole spiel and give a serious reply but I think I'll pass.>If you remove the ability for a momotalk to focus on a character= making momos of character X not about character X, which is once again not the point being made.
>>563264636>>563264660Okay I reminded myself and I can see why remembered it as "fake voice". Because, really, it is. It's not cutesy voice I fucked that up, but she's acting nervous and "cute" (meek)She's faking 100%
>>563264918>And you want that goneNo, but believe what you want. I can't convince someone as stubborn as you of what I'm actually saying, since every time I say it you just ignore it.
I enjoy how this thing that's never been an issue before suddenly needs this massive change for seemingly no reason
>>563264997>never been an issuelollmao
Last 5 minutes to pat your students!
>tfw wouldn't mind other students having brief parts in momos and I will now need to never mention it again because this retard has completely poisoned the well>>563265090Works on my machine.
>>563264997I wonder if it's possible that people might have thoughts, bring them up, and thus start conversations.
>>56326518380% is indeed not 100%
>>563265153Giving Serina a quickie womb pat and creampie before the roster switches
>>563265198
>>563265183>>tfw wouldn't mind other students having brief parts in momos and I will now need to never mention it again because this retard has completely poisoned the wellIf you agree with me completely, I'm not sure why you're saying I'm a retard. Do you think you're also a retard, or something?Every bullshit fake argument in this thread hasn't been mine, so I don't get how you could think I've "poisoned the well". Seriously
>>563264880Mine and Nagisa getting good moments in that does not change what I said, especially Nagisa had a lot of story presence already and Mine had a good amount especially in events. Gehenna has a lot of issues like this with gourmets, pandemonium, hot springs, and the prefects too, a lot of content involving those groups ends up shifting to focus on Hina or Haruna in the gourmets case, but it's far from exclusive to gehenna. Since you keep calling back to this, did Hanae get as much as what Mine did in v6? Or did Atsuko get as much as Saori? While I don't think Mine is given exceptional favoritism her getting good moments doesn't change the general issue present in most of the stories, the writers clearly want to focus on their favorite characters much more and it drains presence from everyone else.
>>563265245Retard.
>>563265245Very curious how this only got spammed in this thread after global opened up and global players started getting uppity
>>563265294>Mine and Nagisa getting good moments in that does not change what I saidYeah it does. Who the fuck are the Mine and Nagisa omega fans in the studio? Because they barely appear in anything, mate. You were saying Hina and Saori have fans and that's why they had moments in the volume.
I recently read the group story for the festival operations department and the first episode had more of the inner discipline club than it did the festival, which I mean kaede tits are cool and all but the second episode which had the three of them talking amongst themselves was better
Why is Yuuka mean to the gamers? She dotes on Aris but is a bitch to Momoi even though they're basically the same bodytype and both cute.
Momoltalks are for a student's personal relationship with Sensei and exploring more of their character without having to split screen-time with other students.Everything else is how they interact with other students and the world.
Pat you are students
Time for pats.
>>563265393Why do people think that Yuuka telling a club to follow the rules is "being a bitch"?>give multiple opportunities to change behavior>send messages multiple times about meetings on the matter--they go unattended>personally go to the club to explain the situation and possible ways to improveWhat a bitch!
>>563265467God shut up Yuuka. This is why people find you annoying. What a drag. Way to kill the mood will you.
>>563265348You cannot fucking read, do you speak English? Sometimes characters other than the absolute writer favorites might get something, and Nagisa and Mine are far from the neglected tier already, but it remains true that there's a near constant issue in the main and event stories of specific students getting all the focus over and over again, and that would absolutely happen in momotalks too, if you had your way.
>>563265393>even though they're basically the same bodytypeAris is 9 cm taller than Momoi, they're both scrawny but Aris's body is longer, more mature
>>563265486me when I'm Abraham Lincoln
>>563265564>You cannot fucking read, do you speak English?Anon.>>563264680>Almost every time and Saori is another writer favoriteAre you kidding me?
new 'toss
>>563264609It keeps mysteriously breaking for long stretches of time.
>>563264648Man Tomoe had such a great l2d art but the actual content of the dialog just being her going on and on about Cherino made me not give a shit about it. I'm glad they haven't tried this again
>>563265564Saori doesn't show up that much for a "dev favorite"Well neither does Hina, but you're the sort of person who thinks Hina shows up in everything too, even though she doesn't. You mentioned Haruna here >>563265294 and she does show up an absurd amount, but I don't think she's a "favorite" myself, just don't get that vibe. She just...does, and she's never alone so it's more like the devs like using the Gourmets for conflict (similar to Kaiten). This overall doesn't seem very sound
>>563265780>similar to Kaitenmb, KaiserKaiten actually fucking barely ever shows up, but if anything I get the feeling that might've been an early change, because you'd think they show up all the time with how recognizable they are
Here's an actual suggestion:Momos and Valentine stories should be full voiced.
>>563265410This is true but apparently he's never going to get it>>563265775Almost like that rule of not mentioning other characters was created for a reason. Some early momotalks where it wasn't forbidden really suffer.
The hot springs department shows up more than the gourmets I don't know why gourmets get hate for being shoved into everything
>>563265780You're intentionally misinterpreting what I said. Look at any gourmet content that has Haruna and the rest as a group, it always focuses on Haruna. Look at any content with the gehenna groups, including the gourmets again, and if Hina appears it switches focus to her entirely. These are just the biggest examples, Saori is another with getting much more than others, and she got a big chunk of volume 3 and 6, and the ps68 event, and more.
>>563266062In Hina's event, it focused pretty plainly on Junko at least once.
Not all stories need to be interconnected and filled with cameos like mahvel movies. Momotalks being isolated stories just for the student and Sensei is fine and doesn't need to be changed.
Too many wall of texts, I'm too lazy to read
someone link me the beginning of this reply chain so i can hide it all
>>563266135OK but it is an outlier of content that suspiciously acts different than any other story type in the game and infamously has extremely low engagement or, at worst, is engaged with the be skipped through
>>563266110It was still centered around hina, even in the story which was supposed to be about pandemonium. Including every other group in that event being reduced to an obstacle for Hina.
>>563266175>all that shit police by you
>>563265930No, for pracitcal reasons.It's an expense, and 5 years in a proven "needless" expense. That said, Nexon HAS voiced a lot of the game (the main stories) in Korean for...some reason...even though I'm quite sure almost nobody plays the game in Korean. Kaya got a voice in Korean recently, on that note.On a personal opinion basis, I don't need/want VA either. Fucking HAAAATED it in Disco Elysium's update (original was much better) where fucking everything is voiced so I have to either wait for slow reading, or click to continue and awkwardly cut the voices off. For me if something is heavy on reading, VA just gets in the way. So far, only time I've liked with heavy voicing has been Trickcal, but mainly because interaction is heavy, narration is light, and VA is absurd
>>563266201>even in the story which was supposed to be about pandemoniumWhat? Since when? What the fuck are you talking about?The event is called>Sunshine Girls' SerenadeIs Makoto the sunshine girl? (Hi in Hina can mean "sun" btw)
>Miyo showing up in my cafe 2 times in a rowyou needy girl...
>>563266232korean VAs are dirt cheap and they just need to get some that sound similaryour second part is retarded, just mute only the voices you autist...
>>563266201It's more like Hina had to split the event with Pandemonium because it would be been really boring had it just been the Hina parts.
>>563266178It all started here >>563255991
>>563266192Lunatic is an outlier that "suspiciously" acts different from other gameplay content in a sense that it is difficult, and therefore has low engagement.It serves its purpose, however, as it is targeted at the gameplay-oriented subset of players.Momotalks of character X serve the purpose of being content about character X targeted at Xfags.
>>563266424>I wish story focused on X girl had Y girls show up and waste screentime like <other gacha>yep shit post
>>563266401In Disco Elysium, completely muting the VA erased some very good performances. Thing about DE was that the narration itself was voiced, and at least when I last played you could not disable narrative voice.As for in BA, the game feels better (imo) without needing to be paced to voice, but that could just be me (doubtful, given most of the game was visually directed without voice over)
>>563266535Lunatic is a horrible example...It's not expected for every player to engage with Lunatic difficulty. Presumably, you are expected to read momotalks given there's an unread number and it's on the lobby screen.
>3800FUCKING STOP CLEARING TORMENT
>>563266192Point me to the people actually discussing group stories. They are just as neglected or skipped by players when they don't have characters the player is interested in. People just tend to ironically brag about their unread collection of momotalks because of the sheer number of them compared to only 26 sets of available group stories.
>>563266284Read it you fucking braindead ape, it was also their debut event for Makoto and Ibuki and makoto called sensei there. You said the part with Junko wasnt about Hina but it was still about hina giving junko her ticket like the rest of it. You can't have gourmet content that doesn't focus on Haruna unless they can't include anyone other than one member, you can't have pandemonium content that isnt hina wrecking everything they do, you can't have hot springs content without it being made a point kasumi is scared of hina, you cant have arius content without at least half of it being focused on saori, I could go on, and it's far from a gehenna exclusive issue.>>563266404For their debut event it should have focused on them at least half but it was more like a tenth and even that tenth had hina included.
>>563266559Not what it said but OKI guess you also skip skip skip the main stories because that's, well, what the main stories completely consist of.And eventsAnd mini storiesAnd group storiesAnd the youtube shortsAnd AroPlana channelOh and the momotalks because other characters do show up in momotalks, as was mentioned here
>>563266192funny how you say this like every group or mini story had to had time limited pyro incentives because nobody gave a shit and implying people aren't reading momotalks is retarded
>>563266676>Read it you fucking braindead ape, it was also their debut event for Makoto and Ibuki andWhat is the event titled? What is the event about, and who is the FES student associated with the event?
>page 1 during these hours we are so back bros
>>563266192There's people that skip everything. Momotalks aren't uniquely skipped.
at least attach some cute students to your imageless posts
>>563266739At this point you should probably just stop feeding him
>>563266710>funny how you say this like every group or mini story had to had time limited pyro incentives because nobody gave a shit and implying people aren't reading momotalks is retardedMain stories also have time limited incentives to read, what do you mean by this?Also I'm not implying that, don't be stupid. That's literally just a fact, people think of momos as an "emergency stash" in worst cases
Did someone say cute student?
>>563266689oh events and main stories are solely focused on a single girl X giving her 99.9% of acreentime and 0.1% screentime to everyone other than girl X? I had no idea
>>563266786I do not believe people who actually engage with Blue Archive and aren't "playing" it like indogs and ironic weeaboos read its core content because it's heavily advertised and heavily discussed.I do believe people who actually engage with Blue Archive regularly ignore momotalks...because I've seen that be the case countless times. You...do know that, right? Like this isn't big news, and no it's not just a global thing Japanese players also regularly ignore them and let them pile up
>>563266739Read the start of the event and also consider it was the debut event for makoto and ibuki. Youre the one who mentioned the part with junko and it did not help your case. If you want to say it was designed around hina then it's still a problem for their debut event to be about hina instead.
>>563266606Yes, and there's a "total assault open!" banners, a leaderboard, trophies, and ranks in your profile, that compel you to engage with gameplay. But a lot of people are casuals. In fact, the primary demographic of mobile games are.
>>563266858There are some events like that, yeah, like Airi's.Airi's is extremely focused on Airi but other characters appear in it (hardly, it's almost all Airi)
>>563266898>Yes, and there's a "total assault open!" banners, a leaderboard, trophies, and ranks in your profile, that compel you to engage with gameplayI don't want to engage with facetious arguments. You know what I mean, and I don't think there's any point in playing dumb. Where on the lobby screen does it say "You haven't played Lunatic yet, go do it"?
>>563266880If someone is skipping momotalks they can definitely skip the main story and everything else. Momotalks are absolutely read by the majority of players who read anything. For some reason you think saying a character is popular gets rid of the fact that their momotalks are often discussed or referenced in fanart, but that's not the case, because that can be the whole reason they're popular in the first place anyway.
>>563266915I'm pulling out of this relationship.
>>563265880I don't think kaiten were ever supposed to be important in any way, they're just minibosses with a raid boss for the bit.I still want a sixth-ranger Tempura White event though.
>>563266892What I'm telling you is you're fucking stupid if you think that Serenade Promenade is "a pandemonium" event. You don't play as Iroha or Makoto or Ibuki in that event, do you?Who do you play as for the majority of that event? Is it a Pandemonium club member? Why is the event named after a song no Pandemonium club member sings?
Remember Onsen Chinatsu? Surely people remember her for her negligible event appearance instead of her shameless momotalks.
God I wanna FUCK Aoba I want to cream her pussy so bad uoooggghhh fuuuuck Aoba I'm gonna FUCK you
>>563266997>Where on the lobby screen does it say "You haven't played Lunatic yet, go do it"?You mean the giant yellow dot?
>>563267006>Momotalks are absolutely read by the majority of players who read anythingNo, and you know that's not true. You know that isn't true, come on. Fuck off
>>563267094That tells you you haven't done TA yet. It doesn't tell you you haven't done Lunatic.
>>563266798>Main stories also have time limited incentives to read, what do you mean by this?that some people also don't read it and the devs want you to read them? why do you think shit like yesod was completely crippled in the main story? to not force people off and stop reading italso >time limitedlollmao even
I hope you're not running BA on Windows.
@arona please summarize this thread and explain to me what they're saying
>>563267173>that some people also don't read it and the devs want you to read them?idk what you're even trying to argue, because it's momotalks that have a big lobby menu forever icon and unread count, but not "all other story content"
I hope you're all being paid overtime to be mad in the thread right now
>trying to get sHanako to throw her def down when the cat is groggied>keeps squeezing it out during the ghost addsThis is just me being too slow on sHanako EX's to delay her use, right?Still getting a 40m score so it's not really costing me but I only pull it off like 1/2 of my attempts, just trying to make sure I know what I'm fucking up.
>>563267068It was their debut event. Everything you're mentioning is just more of the fact that they wanted to shift focus entirely to hina. You cant get pandemonium content that isnt about them getting stomped by hina unless the writers are not allowed to include anyone else. You cant get gourmet content without it being about everyone following haruna without them not being allowed to include more than one member.>>563267117You are a retard if you think that. You admitted it when you pretended to not see the rest of my post because that proves you wrong.
>>563267209Tell me how to run that shit on Linux because I tried Proton-GE and it wouldn't let me download any assets
>>563266609It took me over a year to get my first plat on JP despite clearing torments for 6 months.
why are we mad again?
It looks like they accidentally replaced some of Aoba's lines in ep 3 of the highlander event.
>>563267209You can't even run
>>563267297>You are a retard if you think that.I don't think that, I know it. I have eyes and I pay attention and I don't live in ignorance like supposedly you do? What, every single 100+ screenshot of unread momotalks disappears from your thoughts when it doesn't serve your current argument? What?
>>563267339Because momotalks focus on one student with sensei apparently
I want to be a short otaku sensei and I want to get bullied by these evil gyarus
>>563267339anon is upset Ako's momos aren't about hina
>>563265630bratty little girls.. showing me her sideboobs and armpits and shoulders and cleavage..
I don't even know if you're correctly replying to the ones you're quoting anymorewhat the fuck is happening
>>563267297My guy there are loads of people who ignore momotalks. Like, to the point where it's more common to have them unread than read and people joke about it. People tend to only read the characters they really like and ignore all others.That's actually true for Valentine's too. Most people only get enough for a few students they like, especially nowadays because there's no true "valentine event" to farm invites like there used to be
>>563267395what?they have group story/mini story for that
>>563267339Not enough Ritsu R18 doujins
>>563267384I can see much more art referencing momotalks than I do screenshots of unread momotalks. So there are a lot of players reading momotalks for them to be talked about and referenced so much.
>>563266997Even though there is a yellow dot on the "students" button, that does not necessarily mean the game expects you to max out every single one of them, that is just mathematically impossible.Even though there is an "in progress" label on top of your XP bar during the double XP campaign, if you're at level cap it does not apply to you at all.This is just information. The unread messages indicator over the representation of a phone is one of said pieces of information that is not uniquely different from the "total assault open" banners.
>>563267339
>>563267519It's fairly unique to have a literal number of unreads on the screen you are guaranteed to see every time you open the gameIn red, no less
>>563267475Again, I've seen plenty of evidence against the idea that nobody reads momotalks. And if some players don't, that's on them for not doing it, and I'm sure they skip events and say they'll read them later only not to. Same for the main story even. It doesn't change that momotalks are equally if not more important than main stories and events because of what they provide.
Good morning fellow Mika enjoyers
Communists look like THIS???
>>563267339its literally just 2 niggas
We can solve this right now, post your unread momo count and your total owned student count.
>>563267568I've seen way more evidence on twitter since I have a lot of players on my timeline, of people not reading, so idk what to tell you.Also, if what you were saying were true, I'd see a lot of fanart in general of characters referencing momos, but I definitely don't myself. For popular characters? Yeah, of course. For anyone else not really.
>>563267312Depends. If you're using an old Nvidia card, you're fucked.Just try different proton versions.
i post sagger
>Nobody reads momos!!! They're not canon!!! They should remove sensei and just have the girls!!!!!!!Countless people in japanese and english were talking about Rabu's momos even when she was only on jp, and then again when she released on global. For nobody to have read it they know a lot about them. Everyone here talks about valentines too.
coom in doomrope in hopegood morning /bag/
>>563267807I adore people who strawman and add something nobody said like "momos aren't canon". Nobody said it, but you quoted it. It's funny.The "it should just be girls" too, that's funny, heh
>>563267620Can't wait for the Minori swimsuit alt unleashing her anarcho-communist titties
who are you quoting?
>>563267859Notice how you admitted that my point about the momotalks and valentines were correct? Thanks.
disabled zoos
Momos shouldn't have sensei and should be girls only and also the girls are lesbian with each other and the game should call me my preferred pronouns
>>563267807Calm down already. You've been non-stop seething trying to bend this into your weird>not canon!!! They should remove senseithing this entire time.
>>563267807RitsuFuyuRenaYakumoNagusaNiya (sadly)ReiChikai (sadly)Reijo
>>563267904would
>>563267942Anon, Sensei can be female if you want. You don't need to remove Sensei to live your yuri fantasies.
>>563267942At least you admitted your agenda now
a schizo is talking listen and learn
Sensei should appear in all Momos, mini stories, group storieseverything
Literally no one assed.
>It's still going
>>563267898Well, the point about "nobody really reads momos" IS correct. It would be odd to say it wasn't, they're noticeably not popular overall. Main stories etc are pretty much universally read, while Momos, not really. idk, that's not speculation or opinion but observable factValentine's is technically an event also, not "momotalks". It doesn't even use the momotalk UI.
>>563267964some momotalks don't have much to be discussed. people definitely talked about Nagusa for example when she got her valentines, some even claimed she got the best one.
>>563267964Didn't roll for Rena because 6th anni raped my wallet and I need to save
>>563268086>store boughtmy ass she got the best one
>Sensei can be fe-AAACCKK MOMOIPOSTER NO PLEASE IM SORRY I JUST WANTED TO FEEL VAL-AAAACKKKKK
>>563267964>ChikaiChiyaki*idfk why I wrote "close" in Japanese, that's fucking weird
this is the worst thread in a while
>>563268086Wait are >we saying Nagusa's momos weren't talked about when they released? I remember talking about them a few times here with people and seeing it getting yapped about even when I'd said everything I cared to say about them.
>>563268174>Chiyaki>yasend me to hell
>>563268075Okay but people, most players who read anything, definitely read them like I said and like you admitted, since they are often talked about and discussed.
>>563268225Even worse than THAT thread?
assessing the quality of this thread...
>>563268174retard
>>563268276>tfw a crippled beauty with a titanic ego will never grind her crotch on your faceI'm losing it.
>>563268249Definitely not true, that's naive also. Not sure, I feel like I'm getting into an argument with someone who thinks Mika isn't popular or something like that. Like yeah a lot of players don't read all momotalks. Do you know how long it would take to read all momotalks of all students? It would take a very long time, they aren't interesting to a lot of people, and most people are just gonna read about who they like (who, that's naturally usually gonna be popular characters)Nothing I'm saying here is wild
>>563267652nta but is a gtx1060ti old
>>563268367have you tried basing your expectations on reality
yall should do momotalks with irl women
>>563268071Honestly beginning to believe this retard is responding to himself.
>>563266232>So far, only time I've liked with heavy voicing has been TrickcalIt's funny that you mention this alongside the kr voices because i'm pretty sure the only reason why kr voices exist is because of the trickcal voices doing so well. doubly so because ba's kr dub shares a lot of VAs with trickcal's like mika is voiced by erpin's va and somehow kazusa is voiced by speaki's va.
>>563268465they didn't give you jimmies
>>563268382>10 year oldI can legally fuck that graphics card
Why is Hina(my wife) so evil?
People don't read momos guise. So much so that Hifumi's cowkini scene was one of the earliest examples of localization drama in BA.
>>563268378The majority of players who actively engage with Blue Archive do read momotalks. This is immediately obvious when seeing how much art constantly references momotalks and valentines, and neither of those have the focus suddenly moving to other students and sidelining the student who the momotalk is for and they don't sideline sensei to add other girls in either. Rabu is a big example because everyone was surprised by them and enjoyed them.
korean is as bad as chinese to listen to
>>563268551I don't listen to either so I'm good.
>>563268129>he doesn't get why its the best oneLarping otaku detected.
>>563268538And now post korean version
>>563268515Trickcal is a very different style tho. BA is more "normal", so I don't like its VA in Korean (I mean, I don't like Korean--and while I can definitely respect a lot of VA in Trickcal in Korean, I still play in JP since I know that language and it doesn't sound weird to my ears)
>>563268548>This is immediately obvious when seeing how much art constantly references momotalksNot really. The majorit of people who play the game aren't artists, anon.
you know how in animes/cartoons protagonist sometimes fight monsters that are only visible to the protagonists?maybe it's like that and we don't see the person he's fighting with?
>>563268551weeb is terminal, minh
>still goingBrother I enjoy a little banter too but damn at a certain point you need to throw in a the towel and go down something more productive.
>>563268585>SHE FED IT TO ME KYAAYeah Eri feeds it to you and it's handmade and unique at that>>5632685381. Hifumi's cow bikini is one of the few times that we see artwork outside of default assets in momotalks. Literally all of those are memorable even disregarding context since it's something "new".2. That's SHifumi, and all of her momos are great3. Regular Hifumi has some of the worst momotalks in the entire game, they're really bad
>>563251157"Mufufu" is a localization.
>>563268548NTA. Could you tell me who your favorite girl is?
why is it so hot?
>>563268748Probably should've said one of the best ones.
>>563268382>gtx1060tiTry Mint 22 https://linuxmint.com/download.php it ships with an older kernel which might be stabler for your Pascal system. I didn't have to use ProtonGE to run this game on a deck but if you have troubles seeing videos (all black with no audio) then GE might bring more codecs that normal proton is not legally allowed to use
>>563251157In "fairness" (not really) this is standard practice and not unique to BA's localizers (if anything, shockingly they often translate laughs correctly)Most "professional" TLs will remove and localize unique laughter.
>>563268768You can clearly hear it
>>563268797it almst summr :o
>>563268683Okay but people still talk about and discussed Rabu's momotalks everywhere. I only use twitter for art and I still saw both japanese and english players talking about it. And the consistency with which art references momotalks and valentines confirms it,
>>563268838They translate from Korean.
>>563268748I asked her to feed it to me, because I simply love her more.
>>563268839oh...
>>563268854Rabu isn't a great example, I'd really want examples of characters who aren't already beloved. We've been wanting Rabu for like 4 years
>caring about korean version in japanese game
>>563268602No bell cow joke here by the way.
>>563268748>1. Hifumi's cow bikini is one of the few times that we see artwork outside of default assets in momotalks. Literally all of those are memorable even disregarding context since it's something "new".nta and I loath extending this shitshow of a conversation, but how does that matter if people aren't reading momos to discover that, especially when you think Hifumi's were so bad they should have (presumably) killed off interest in her swimsuit ones beyond their already allegedly low readership rate?
>>563268726>and go down something more productive
BA is an albanian game how many times will we go over this
>>563268961If something unique happens in a momo, people will bring it up, which will compell other people to read it.idk, seems simple to me. Kinda like with Miyo, since Miyo is kind of a "nothing" character in events.
chill wife, chill life
>>563269049command grab
>when he lost the first argument he switched over the momotalks not being canon>And also no one reads them, despite them being one of the most talked about things in the game>Won't shut up about how we should be more like Trickal and momotalks need other girls to appear in them??This better not just turn out to be scatfag.again
>>563268726You don't understand. I HAVE to defend my side of the argument and force people to have the same passions as I do.
>>563268838>>563268864 (me)Her laugh hasn't changed at all since the commieket event and you can hear her "힛" laughs in her KR voicelines.
>>563269110>>when he lost the first argument he switched over the momotalks not being canonWhat the fuck are you talking aboutAlso I never said "need", but did say it'd be nice to have a bit of variety, even if it is for a few seconds.
this thread needs a hero
>>563269110>them being one of the most talked about things in the gameHAHAHAHa ha, fuck, wow that's funny no they aren't. You serious? I wish. I love Niya and nobody talks about her at all let alone her momotalks (which are very fun).
Do you guys seriously have nothing better to do on Saturday morning?
God you type like such a faggot
>>563268831>Most "professional" TLs will remove and localize unique laughter.Any translation that does this isn't a translation, it's a rewrite Unique laugh is the soul of the characterJapan is all about conveying character with small character elements like that, even if they don't say a word you can understand them quickly with those individual character traits Any translation that sees it as their job to sand down the product and remove "all that Japanese shit" can't be called a translation at allThose elements are core to the character. It's not the same character if it's removed.Hoshino isn't Hoshino with "Uhee~ ojisan is tired y'know"
>Half of my BA screenshot folder is momosI'm glad that Johny Nexon is practically hand crafting this game for me regardless of what the general public thinks.>>563269331No, I ran out of momos.
>>563268937Hifumi even back then. Satsuki. Suzumi inclluding base suzumi.. Yuzu. Iroha. Kisaki. Seia. Reisa as memed as she is does get art that references her momos. Koharu. Rabu should count too because literally everyone talked about it. A lot of students get most or core parts of their characterization from momotalks at least initially. This is just a weird thing to say.
I know why this conversation is the way it is. But I can't tell you.
>>563268937>>563269363Add every highlander student to that list even after their event. Aoba was brand new by the way. If this isn't enough then I can't save you.
>>563269363These are all very or decently popular students except for Satsuki and Suzumi. Fair to them, though also...>SuzumiShe's remembered most especially for the mob encounter in her momotalks (especially because she started the game without an L2D scene). That's the kind of thing I'd like more of, but it's the kind of thing you're insisting would "remove focus" from the character. Even though it didn't, I still clearly remember Suzumi threatening to make them listent to Not!Justin Bieber and how the mobs threatened to rape me.Satsuki's are just good and unique. She's unusual and unexpected so they're fun to read.Everything else you listed is quite beloved in general.
>>563269363Why does he even mandate "unpopular" characters?Shupos are popular but Nozomi's momos showed an entirely different side to her than anyone expected.Her being popular from the outset due to her design doesn't devalue that.It's such a strange stipulation to put on things.
>>563269110Momotalks can't all be Canon as stated by Minori as it is mathematically impossible for you to spend time with all the studentsfor example there's no way you spent the single day of Valentines with everyone
>>563269530I’m just built different
>>563269530>as it is mathematically impossiblemiracles baby
>>563269496>Aoba was brand new by the way<pretending Aoba wasn't popular the moment she appearedNot only does she have a striking unique design, she has an amazing L2D and she's a tour de force in the event. She was popular before the event even arrived. I'd be more curious about why nobody talks about how Yoshimi is adorable as fuck or how Fubuki is great with kids (prior to SFubuki, I've never seen any reference to her momotalks at all ever, not her really sweet moment of taking time to find a kid's lost item I mean)
>>563269530Sensei is canonically a speedster.
>>563269215We get it already bro, you're a newfag who switched here from Trickal and you're here to change this game from the insideThose of us who have been here for ages talk about the momotalks a lot
next week livestream will save /bag/
>>563269517>Why does he even mandate "unpopular" characters?What do you mean by this querstion?If everyone reads everything as is being claimed, even unpopular student momos would be read and discussed. Duh?
>>563269627Why are you ignoring what I wrote and bringing up Trickcal?>Those of us who have been here for ages talk about the momotalks a lot This is mine >>563259552Post yours.
I'm Black suits top guy...what am I gonna do?Black suit chose me to lead the revolution
>>563269704That is Ayumu actually, newfag
>>563269730Joke? I'm saying post logins, since I've been playing since day 1.
>>563259552sounds like the game just isn't for you bro the sunk cost falacy isn't worth it. I'm sure you can find other games with personal interaction ruined by other characters
>>563269530Momotalks are literally referenced in canon constantly, only a complete priconne newfag who never read the story would think otherwise Aru's L2D momotalk gets referenced in volume FA shit ton of characters who you meet in the story know about you specifically from their bond stories, and they mention that's where they know you fromIn the most recent event they mentioned an event from Iori's bond stories Everything is canon in this game, everything constantly gets referenced and brought back up. Iori meeting the food club from their group episode gets brought up in the pancake event Fuck newfags, they're retarded and don't read the game
>>563269704No? That's Ayumu. Mine is this girl.
>>563269817If you're saying I'm a newfag and I only switched here, post your login streak? It should be around the same number of mine, ye?
mentioned yet again
https://x.com/nemo07335044/status/2042797050862145546aruji-dono..
>>563269872I said the literal opposite you retard. no wonder you want momotalks to be bad when you can't even read
>>563269668That doesn't follow, no.I read all of my momos. I'm still going to discuss the ones I found interesting or that are about my favorite characters more than the ones about characters I don't care for or that were simply forgettable momos.This deviation in the topic started as someone claiming that momos were read due to their prevelence in art.This was deflected by saying that you wanted students that weren't already beloved (which now also apparently includes Aoba on release).If a student is already beloved and is getting art as is, for momo-based art to make an impact on that adds even greater weight to how impactful momos are if anything.
>>563269937>I said the literal opposite>>563269627>We get it already bro, you're a newfagFeel free to pretend that isn't you, tho
>>563269958>That doesn't follow, no.How doesn't it? You just said everyone who reads BA reads everything, so you...do read and discuss the stuff that you said is "the most regularly discussed" stuff: the momotalks, right? Even for unpopular students--you said everything.That isn't deviation, I didn't say everyone reads everything you did.
>>563269972it's not but I understand how someone of your mental capability would find it hard to understand that
RETARDSBOTH OF YOU
/momo/i
>>563270031Sure you just happened to quote a post from 3 hours ago after I quoted it here, when replying to you >>563269704
>>563250215fucking annoying that you can't see this list until you buy the ticket
>>563270083no? I saw the reply and joined in on calling you a retard
>>563270194Sure.
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I'm all ears
>>563270204glad you understand now it wasn't that difficult see?
>>563269817I, too, felt nothing for Nagisa opening her heart to me in volume 6 because it wasn't in the context of a momotalk, and thus I was disgusted--because other girls were in the school and in the volume. It made me think, "this is the LGBT agenda", and I've stopped playing ever since.
>>563270262small girl, big boobies
>>563269851>>563269887I don't like her idol alt very much because she doesn't look as powerful
>>563270292glad to hear I wouldn't want someone this retarded playing the same game as me
oppai loli nipple stimulation..
>>563270292@arona seiafy this
>>563270403this but anus
>>563270402I'm glad you dropped it too, comerade. You and I, we both hate the main story for the same reason. Only momotalks are pure and simple, even when mob girls appear in it. I too ignore that, in favor of my argument."The agenda", you and me, we get it.
>>563270394wtf rgb gamer gear
there is no way a maiden would feel good from having her butt hole be played with..
I need tldr of this whole drama itt
Sex with retard
>>563270540two retards fighting
>>563270469No, I'm still playing I enjoy the main story with various characters and moments both collective and individual, as well as the momos who will continue to be virtually all focused on a single student as the game continues to cater to me.
>>563270553get a portal gun then
>>563270553Can I fight with this retard?
>>563270540Guy says he would like it if other students showed up in momotalks occassionally for more variety.Replied to that he's asking for yuri, for hina to be in everything, and for girls to obsess over other girls in momotalks. Also that he said "we need to change it" rather than it'd be nice.
Neru shows up in one of Karin's momos fyi
>>563270540anon wants cherino to show up on tomoe's momotalks
>>563270571What???Butbut anon, mob students appear in momotalks...those are GIRLSI thought you and I had and understanding!>personal interaction ruined by other charactersRight? Yeah? Come on, you get it...It's like, it's gay, it's the gay yuri agenda and it's horrible every time it happens in momotalks (which is a lot). I fucking hate it. You too, right?
>>563270540Anon has potentially heartfelt but unpopular take, spends so long arguing pointlessly with people that don't care that it may as well be shitposting at this point.Just people yelling and arguing past each other at this point.
>>563269934Love Toki's expressionlessness.
>>563270648Not that I recall. Most I recall in terms of Neru is that Neru calls you thinking you're Akane in one of her BNeru momotalks
>>563270605>he's asking for yuri, for hina to be in everythingOfc it's the fucking hinafag
>>563270743I'm saying people thought he wanted Hina. He never brought up Hina. He brought up Aru and Junko.
https://litter.catbox.moe/2poajgax5xoy0vyy.jpghttps://litter.catbox.moe/n82tzpilt02md5uj.jpg
i want to lick seia's exposed armpits
>homos mad that Blue Archive is for heterosexual menMust be a day ending in Y
when strim?
>>563270775true it would be nice if Haruka's momos had Aru in them nobody would really mind like who would want more haruka?
https://litter.catbox.moe/aedy57.jpgStudents for this feel?
next bread will be worse
Too much text. I'm not reading any of it.
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>>563270860It was brought up in relation to Ako, actually.
>>563270910I understand but I would like if the post mentioned Haruka more, it's weird because they are often together so the post should talk about Haruka
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requesting this image for the next bread
>>563270960The point was mostly like, it'd be interesting to have bizarre and brief interactions like Atsuko and Shiroko interacting briefly. Similar to how Suzumi interacts with the rapists in her momotalks, which was pretty amusing and spoke mostly to Suzumi's character, accentuating it and making it memorable even after 5 years.
>>563270790NO!! STOP!!!. I WILL CLEAN YOU WITH MY TONGUE. NO DETERGENTS NEEDED
JPfags, give me a screenshot of a PvP combat report screen on your desktop client.Preferably PNG, the largest resolution you can do. The whole game window, not cropped. At least one of the player names has to be in japanese and fully visible, I need to see the font, you can censor the other name. You can also censor the player representatives, banners, and anything outside the report window itself, if you want.
>>563270790WTF DON'T SHAVE, LEAVE IT AS IS
https://x.com/otinpo_pussy/status/2042794710847410551gogurted
>>563268748>Regular Hifumi has some of the worst momotalks in the entire game, they're really badSorry but you are retarded even if I ignore any of your other opinions. Hifumi's momotalks are not bad, faggot. Each episode is intentional and properly established character traits that are consistent with her characterization later in Eden Treaty. The first episode explained her adoration for the weird looking Momo Friends because of her insecurities about being too ordinary. The second episode showcased her desire to be helpful to others that she stuffs her bag with so many things so she can be prepared to help her friends when they need it. The third episode shows how she takes any lesson seriously from Sensei and how he's an easy ATM. The fourth episode reinforces her insecurity and the need to be helpful to others that she cried that she can't do nothing but listen to her friends' vent about their problems. Sensei comforts her by saying that listening counts as support and Hifumi expresses that she hopes for Sensei to become that supporting pillar for her when she needs help. This is connected to how she tries anything she can to support her friends during the bootcamp by creating mock exams with Sensei. Episode five is about how her subconscious love for Sensei makes her truly enjoy a mundane activity like walking just because she is with Sensei. Her affection for Sensei was embodied by her saying that she is willing to go with Sensei anywhere. The last episode's thesis is Sensei's lesson to her that if she truly loves something then she should not care about other people's opinion. The lesson that aligns about her major moment in Eden Treaty about loving happy endings and not being ashamed about it. Just because her momotalks doesn't have more explicit and romantic displays of affection doesn't mean that they are terrible. No wonder you hate on momotalks when you have such terrible taste.
People need to accept that momos from non for (you) girls are badJust move on
>>563271152Not falling for your honeypot
>>563271193I'm not reading all that, but what I meant is that they're extremely short and shallow in content compared to her SHifumi momos which show off a lot of her character and and are longer. You think this opinion is a shit one?
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>>563271263>I'm not readingwe know
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>>563271305I dunno what you're getting upset by precisely, but it sounds like, from skimming that slab of text, you think I think they all need to be romantic? But SHifumi's aren't really romantic, and I called them great. I was saying "I like Hifumi, I prefer having more content with Hifumi than less". If you disagree with that, I dunno what to tell you. I would personally suggest holding a higher standard and not being satisfied with minimal effort stuff
>>563271152You can try extracting the assets in the unity bundles. Maybe there are fonts hidden somewhere https://github.com/ZM-Kimu/Blue-Archive-Asset-Downloader I bet the datamine discord would be able to tell you the exact filenames and paths
>>563271408I'm not reading all that but from skimming that it sounds like you hate romance with students?
>>563271476That's not that much text comparitively, anon.
>red Winter has an absolutely shit tier railroad that never arrives on time, some days doesn't show up at all, and the tracks are all fucked upI don't get it, if you licensed out the building to highlander, they would gladly take over and rebuild all the tracks themselves and make sure it runs on time. You'd rather have a shit tier product rather than have someone who knows how to handle the product do it for a small licensing fee?
>>563271009>>563271407
>>563271550They can't afford to comission Highlander. Well, they could, but corruption will pocket 90% of the budget and Highlander will tell them to fuck off with the pittance they're offered.
I don't think there should be any more threads
>>563271550There is a reason why communist always get laughed. commies can't build shit and RW is a joke school after gehenna school.
hasumi's big boobs probably would feel so good around my penis
end of /bag/freed from my chains
>>563271694it grows
>>563271263All 6 episodes of base Hifumi's momotalks are not that much shorter than S.Hifumi's 4 episodes in total. Your point of it being shorter and shallow is shallow when you established yourself as someone who only skims through text.
>most of the time: can't tab out of the game on mobile to check the weather because the app resets>sometimes: tab out to do another gacha's dailies, watch porn, doomscroll x the everything app; launch blue archive and it's open where I left itHOW
requesting this image for next thread
>>563271846>mobilefound your problem
request THIS
>>563271675Read volume 1 Ch3Highlander will do the work for free as long as you let them develop the land a bit, and write a contract where you split the profits
>>563271802Bro, if you seriously want to cling to minor points to establish a "win" like "I didn't want to read this fucking absurd block of text" >>563271193 can't you fuck off? Are you autistic?As for length, I genuinely don't remember regular Hifumi taking me long to get through, and actually, your screenshot explains why? Thank you for reminding me, I guess?Regular Hifumi came with 6 momotalks and that about matched it with SHifumi.SHifumi had 4 momotalks at release. In other words yeah I remembered correctly: they're longer.
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>>563272017nice, lmao
The only reason Hifumi's momotalks are bad is due to the translation heeheehee issueNot because they're actually bad
what
>>563272017please actually use this image as the next OP kek
>>563271461I don't need the assets, I need specifically a screenshot of the already composed screen. I was hoping not to have to dig through archives or download the whole client.
>>563271846idk man I hate it too. When I'm at work I shitpost here and whenever I open up BA to pat in cafe not only do I have to load up BA every time I also have scroll down the thread afterwards because the browser shuts down
>>563272117not your country filthy gaijin
>>563271152I'll get it next thread, this one is at its end
>>563271990It's not autistic. Your claim is that Base Hifumi's momotalks were shit because they were short and didn't show a lot of her character. My posts show that they have similar total lengths and her first momotalks did showcase a lot of her character. Is your only argument for all her base momotalks being shit is that they are shorter individually? Retard.
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>>563272017boooo
>>563272360You were too slow
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>>563272307>they have similar total lengthsThey don't though, I did remember correctly and they are shorter. There are fewer, but of longer length and with more happening, in SHifumi's momosAnd fucking chill you fucking baby, I'm saying they were not as substantive, which they weren't because yeah they were shorter (as I recalled--Hell I'm pretty sure one of them lasted only a few lines and was set at a park bench)If you want to get mad about me wanting more substantial, thoughtful content, get fucked. Thankfully the devs don't have your "good enough for me!" mindset because outside of launch units, most momotalks are fairly long and you don't get cases like Hifumi's first ones.
>>563272481>I'm pretty sure one of them lasted only a few lines and was set at a park benchYou are wrong again, retard. Episode 5 was spent walking together around Trinity after they met coincidentally, only the L2D section was Sensei taking a break on a bench. You are confidently shitting on something you don't even correctly remember. Also equating length to quality in the first place is retarded. V1C3 being much longer per episode than most main story chapters doesn't make it substantially better than others. Similarly earlier momotalks being shorter individually don't make them shittier than others.
>>563272884>You are confidently shitting on something you don't even correctly rememberAre you going to cry about it? It's been 5 fucking years. I'm also still pretty sure I'm right and something's really short but you refuse to admit it (even though it's obvious, becuase 6 episodes comes up 1 minute short of 4 comparitively)>Also equating length to quality in the first place is retardedI'm not, but for what it's worth they tended to be shallow and I didn't get anything compelling out of them compared to what I got from Hifumi in the main story or in her swimsuit alt.Please, go on, tell me that that's a ridiculous opinion and that Hifumi in the main story didn't give much of an impression--you colossal faggot
>>563272884I think it's fair to compare to main story when stuff like Mika's or Saori's momotalks are basically main story epilogues. Then there's stuff like Kei's which are stellar. It's fine to want higher quality content
>>563273068As I said in my lengthy post. Base Hifumi's momotalks established her characterization that was used in her main story showing like her insecurities, need to help others and eventually being able to like something without shame. Claiming that you found the main story compelling but not seeing the same characteristics that were in the base momotalks makes your posts sound retarded. Also can you even list the compelling characterization from her swimsuit momotalks that were not present in her initial momotalks? I doubt it because you just drone on about how you are right while skimming through other people's opinions.
>>563273479Desire to be daring (hence her first swimsuit choice), generally entertaining moments like her swimsuit ripping, seeing her general high level of responsibility and competence.
>>563273479also lmao >drone onI'm not the one here who wrote this >>563271193
>>563273575Sorry but that was my first post on the conversation. You were arguing with other people before that. A single long post to defend my position on why a set of momotalks is not one of the most terrible is not equivalent to your thread long melty retard.
>>563273706Personally I find it to take more effort to type a lot at once than a little here and there, but you do you
>>563273575"droning on" implies lack of substance, not just being lengthy in of itself, you repeating the same vague retort based on incomplete information and vague memories is "droning on"
>>563273785>the same vague retort based on incomplete informationI was fairly clear. Shorter, of less substantial content, and not as memorable. You can call that vague if you want to. I'd say "this whole conversation started with someone referening an extremely memorable moment from SHifumi's momotalks, not Hifumi's"
>>563273842>You can call that vague if you want toI will, specially because you admitted you don't remember it clearly
>>563273547>high level of competenceHow do you even get this from S.Hifumi's momotalks? The 2nd episode is her ripping her swimsuit. The 3rd episode is about the tank accidentally getting seawater inside. The 4th episode resulted in her and Sensei fainting from eating too much popsicles to win a prize. She is shown more as clumsy instead of competent.
>>563274068Sensei's not driving the tank or arranging the get togethers they're having.
>>563273978Sure, I can tell you're angry about not quite remembering boring momotalks from 5 years but clearly remembering the dissatisfation. I didn't like them at the time, I remember distinctly disliking them, feel confident about how they were "good actually" but I'll repeat: the short format with not much to it (as I remembered, at least) is not something that carried over into later years of the game so of the two of thus, I think it's safe to say I'm of the correct opinion.Again, this convo didn't start by anyone going "And remember that time in Hifumi's momotalks?" Of course it didn't. You're autistic and maybe Hifumi's your waifu so you specifically obsess about it, but this meme is not from her regular version.
>>563274239>same durr hurr I can't remembergo read them then, and argue your point correctly >the short format with not much to it (as I remembered, at least) is not something that carried over into later years of the game so of the two of thus, I think it's safe to say I'm of the correct opinion.longer momos is generally a good thing yes, I'm not arguing against that, that doesn't make short ones bad by default
>>563274239I actually read through her momotalks again before formulating my "droning on" post. So my claims are more valid than a retard that clings to impressions from five years ago, retard.
>>563274573Okay, stay mad?>>563274529>I'm not arguing against thatThen why are you seething that I dared say "the short ones were very bad">that doesn't make short ones bad by defaultIt does, they're of less effort objectively. There's less to them, period.
>>563274618>Then why are you seething that I dared say "the short ones were very bad">seethingnice projection, also read the very next line "that doesn't make short ones bad by default">It does, they're of less effort objectively. There's less to them, period.I'll give your point credit if you also say V1C3 is the best chapter in the entire game
>>563274618Going with your retarded logic. Blue Archive relatively short main stories are low effort and low quality compared to other gachas especially chink ones that have 6+ hours of yapping per patch. Your need to win with shallow arguments is quite pathetic. Story length is not an objective indicator of effort or quality, retard.
>>563274741>nice projectionYou keep insulting me and you wrote a huge paragraph angrily saying that "I devalue momotalks that aren't explicitly romantic" which I never said. You made a monster in your head and got worked up about it.>I'll give your point credit if you also say V1C3 is the best chapter in the entire gameI mean pretty much? It also has several 1 on 1 moments, some of the best in the game. One my unironic favorite (Koharu and Sensei talking about how it's okay to like porn--and the scene is serious and not a joke)
>>563274846>Blue Archive relatively short main stories are low effort and low qualityI mean kinda yeah. Chapter 1 of volume 5 is absolutely weaker and less effort than chapter 2 of volume 5.Like...Obviously? Very little happens and it's rushed. They actually gave chapter 2 weight, time, and budget.>compared to other gachas especially chink ones that have 6+ hours of yapping per patchI don't think this. I think there is a satisfying length that not every story in this game hits, but more do lately than they did in year 1.>Your need to win with shallow arguments is quite patheticIs this a joke? You're in the argument.
>>563274854>I mean pretty much? It also has several 1 on 1 moments, some of the best in the game. One my unironic favorite (Koharu and Sensei talking about how it's okay to like porn--and the scene is serious and not a joke)that's V3C1... BOY you really can't read, now wonder you don't read momos lmao
Holy blog
>>563275075Dyslexia. I don't think v1c3 is the best, but I do like it a lot. Length in its case is too much. There is such a thing as too much. The argument against "short" is not "overwhelming length", never said so and don't really understand people who go the "Oh? So you hate waffles?" type argument route, where any disagreement must be in the extreme.
>>563274986It's not a joke.>It does, they're of less effort objectively. There's less to them, period.I'm talking about this childish and shallow logic. The longest piece of literature ever is a shitty fanfic with 34 million words. It would be stupid to say that it must have the best quality ever because of its length.
>>563275185>Dyslexianice cope Mr Illiterate >never said so arguments like "they're of less effort objectively. There's less to them, period." doesn't imply the balance you suddenly are backpedaling for. something short can be better than something long, simple as
>>563275272I think you're missing what I'm actually saying because you don't want to admit a fuckton of year 1 momotalks are terrible.Look at this shit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCjDh3aDHOs&list=PLgzqzGr3mCJyigqSM9SizQ0r3gNzLlJqd&index=3I'm talking about this. This IS low effort. It's not them "trying". They try in plenty of other momotalks, I don't believe this is arguable, and I don't think the amount of effort given to this garbage is likely high.Were Hifumi's good? I don't think they were and don't care to refresh my memory. Even if I took the argument of "They establish Hifumi's character!" ...No they fucking don't! Volume 1 did that, and well. We got to see quite a bit of what she was like from her stint in the Black Market, and the lengths she was willing to go through for new friends. Then in volume 3 we got her insecurities.
>>563275469In this game, a short story (truly short, like 2 minutes long) is as far as I'm concerned going to be shit with only one possible exception: it being a valentine story (so at least you get something out of it)
>>563275476>I'm talking about this. This IS low effortthank goodness nobody was arguing against that shiroko's momos being bad> I don't think they were and don't care to refresh my memoryin other words you are afraid of being proven wrong when you check
>>563275587Fine, they're only 10 minutes long. I'll look
>>563275476>No they fucking don't! Volume 1 did thatYour claim falls flat as you repeatedly said that you clearly don't remember her momotalks and that you are a pussy who is too scared to refresh his memory. Her character and motivations got established in her momotalks as it talked about her reasons for her insecurity and liking momotalks before it came up in the main story.
>>563275753Oh I'll get to you champ, don't worry
1/2>>563275753>>5632755871Hifumi likes momofriends. One (I guess) new piece of information: she likes them because they're normal and she isn't (not really "new", we get this from how she describes herself in volume 3)2This is the only I remember as very short and insubstantial. Hifumi has a bag full of stuff and she's clumsy (you learn this from her ex skill). She's highly prepared (you learn this from volume 1). She brings up how she's normal and wants to help others any way she can (this is again, "kind of" new--she's saying outright what you can observe in the main stories)3This is a copy of the (imo) more memorable case of Hoshino's momotalk where Sensei keeps gambling for a prize. With Hoshino, it felt a bit more sincere since she doesn't have much of anything, and Sensei refused to give up. Here we're at a claw machine for momofriends goods, and Sensei spends way too much money to get it the "legit" way.4Hifumi really wants to help her friends and wants to do anything she can for them. She feels sad because she can't help. This behavior was first shown in volume 1 (especially with her being confused as to why Nagisa hasn't helped with Abydos, so she goes to Nagisa for help)5Funnily enough, nothing happens here.Don't get me wrong, though, this is one of the best L2Ds in the game. However, you really get no "new character details" from it. It's just Hifumi being cute and on a little date with you because her friends had something come up. (something odd about the momos is often mentioning friends we never ever see in other stories)It's one of the cutest L2Ds ever and wins for a perfect BGM made for her, but the date itself is only ever vaguely alluded to. "Nothing happens". She does throw up a heart emoji, which is nice, and promises to go on more dates.
>>563276109>>563275753>>5632755876It ACTUALLY mentions the makeup work club, which I'm pretty sure is a first in the momos.I actually remember this one because it was goofy. It's a Peroro meet and greet and they talk about his smell. I like this one because it shows just how fucking bizarre Hifumi is, and how much of a consoomer she is.I would give these momos a 3/10 and would say they are not the worst, but that overall they're bad. L2D is great and final momo is funny, that's it.
>>563276109>likes them because they're normalnot* normal, of courseAlso I'll really emphasize, pretty sure this is as new as it gets. Hifumi never brings up comparing herself to momofriends in main stories afaik. You can guess it, but it's never made explicit outside of momotalks. Her sense of responsibility, her insecurity, her clumsiness, her sincerity, and her love and loyalty toward friends are established in volumes 1 and 3, mostly in 1 (insecurities is more of a 3 matter)
Guess I was right.
>>563276796Hifumi is a launch character. My initial point is that her momotalks established characteristics that were later used in the main story. Her momotalks were available before Volume 1 Chapter 2 and everything in Volume 3 so it would be correct to say that most of her character traits were established in her momotalks instead of the main story. Her voiced speech even explicitly follows Sensei's teaching on the 6th episode about not being ashamed what she loves. I did take offense when you initially said that her momotalks were some of the worst. I don't think they are amazing when compared to best momotalks over the years but I don't think they are terrible neither because it did it's job of establishing her character and her belief in Sensei's teachings.
>>563277602Well my point is Hifumi is a volume 1 introduced character, so it doesn't really make sense to "introduce" her in her momotalks.Azusa has a similar issue like that. Her introduction in volume 3 is infinitely better than her momotalks.
>>563277914It may not make sense to you but momotalks are meant to be the introduction of most students to Sensei. Just like how Sensei already knew the Gourmets when he met them in Volume 3. It is fair to say that character traits were established first in momotalks instead of the main story for launch characters.
>>563278443That's definitely not true!It's sometimes true, and it's especially more often true in early years, but like for example Mika? Mika's literally only makes sense after you've read main story. Saori too, Yukari, a lot of students are introduced in specific stories...Izuna, Michiru...there's loads
>>563278536>established first in momotalks instead of the main story for launch charactersThis is why I specifically said this. Mika, Saori, Yukari, Izuna and Michiru are not launch characters. There were 40+ students available during launch and most of them did not appear in Volume 1 and momotalks were definitely their intended introductions.
>>563278921Even then, it's not true. One huge problem for example is all of C&C. They are not introduced in their momotalks save for Akane, who has a weird FSN parody flashback explaining her meeting Sensei.I'm not positive, but I'm pretty sure nearly every momotalk even at launch assumes the students already know Sensei.I guess you could be saying "introduce" like "conceptually, to the player". That's...kind of true? Even for C&C (even, especially, since they aren't really a MAJOR part of volume 2, as they're "villains")
>>563279605I did mean conceptually. Players who pulled them back then didn't have a main story to know them from. The momotalks were the only source of characterization before they later got content from events and the main story.
>>563279808Fair enough. I guess they could've just done a better job generally, in my opinion, on early ones
I made the last post so I win.
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