Shared thread for all Arc System Works games such as Damon and Baby, Blazblue, Guilty Gear, and more.GGST 2.0 and Jam starter guidehttps://youtu.be/mLGruVR6VkM?si=d0i9neT1b0yPYAG6https://youtu.be/MIJwA7Pu9Ns?si=4dEcR5R66XIeW20P>UPCOMING2.0 bracket set for april 18th 5pm estglobal tournamentdouble elimination ft3register HEREhttps://challonge.com/tournaments/signup/VW257aRG8F#/signup/f28yvue9lfGGST 2.0 and Jam release date April 9thBlazing battle pass: MayRobo=Ky: Summer>RESOURCESMain wiki with frame data and information about system mechanics: https://www.dustloop.comFighting game glossary: https://glossary.infil.net/Deflect Shield OS tech: https://youtu.be/zmQeJLe_w9U>Replay Uploadershttps://replaytheater.app/?game=bbcfhttps://replaytheater.app/?game=xrdhttps://replaytheater.app/?game=acprhttps://replaytheater.app/?game=strive>Xrd/+R/#R/ML Resourceshttps://www.reddit.com/r/Guiltygear/wiki/learngg/https://github.com/YouKnow232/ggxxacpr_overlay/releaseshttps://www.dustloop.com/w/GGXRD-R2/Resourceshttps://github.com/WistfulHopes/ggml_public/releases>Current GGST Patch 1.50 (October 8th)https://www.guiltygear.com/ggst/en/news/post-2712/>Damon and Baby Artbook and Soundtrackhttps://mega.nz/folder/T5xyiLAI#OVEKNgq_X_vMkULDVeYkAg/>Guilty Gear Soundtrackshttps://mega.nz/folder/VRxC2JqT#E0Jfw9f_yEwIV6yFgXnDZw/>/ggg/ APPROVED Strive modsPotato Mod Lite: https://gamebanana.com/mods/299494/Potato Low Spec: https://gamebanana.com/mods/296927/Frame Data Display/Replay Takeover 1.49+: https://github.com/WistfulHopes/UE4SSMods/releases/tag/replay-0.2.4State region when making lobbies for the thread and announce in the thread when you close them. You ft10 anyone you make the lobby. Keep training and keep on rockin'!SLASHED: >>563210465
>>563279267i'm done, im gonna make OPs from now onIN THE SUBJECT PART IT SHOULD SAY ASWG AND GGG NOT THE EDITION
>>563279652The edition is the most important part
>>563279592there's no way her wraps wick sweat properlywhen she takes of her boots it must be like a pressurized pipe erupting with steam
FINE!! i took the Giopilldo i really need rush to face with her or can i slightly play like OG Ryu and try space out rely and DP? Her DP is good right? She is Ken clone after all.
>>563279592So how does she fuck the key
>>563279267Based Robo-Ky fag.
Potemkin is still fucking retarded, probably even better now due to lower general power levelsHe still has infinity health, infinity burst, infinity damage, can't be anti aired while he can anti air you by just flailing any of his full screen normals like a retard
>>563280091>am I supposed to play Rushdown with the Cammy function who has a dash she can cancel in to any one of her normals
>>563280091explain how she's a ken clone
>>563280367>>563280402So shes Cammy now?! Never played her but SF streamers said she plays like Ken.
>IB all 5 hits of bridgets gatling>fuck up 6Ping through the projectileim sick of getting washed despite being godlike
>>563280609she has a unique step dash, spiral arrow, no fireball and her dp isn't a dp lmfao she's not a fucking shoto at all
Yo, I'm new to the game and decided to pick Slayer. There's something I don't understand about how his combos work, since sometimes the link into c.s from f.s will drop at the same distance and with the same timing. Honestly all links from f.s seem to occasionally just drop. I can't pinpoint why it's seemingly randomly dropping and it's driving me mad.
>learning and mashing it out in gold/plat with sol>5S xx 5H xx fanfnir through 60% of people's lifebar>c.S xx run grab and stagger pressure through the rest of them>mirror match with someone higher in rank>find out you can get grabbed out of fanfnir>5H xx fanfnir PRC jump and wreck their shitdamn, this game is actually kinda fun.tho normal throws in this game are weird, i never think of them as a punish tool.also, can i get a QRD on blocked jump attacks?i'm too used to SF where they are giga plus in all situations
>>563281131what game tho
do you consider blazblue 1 game with multiple versions, or the multiple versions as separate games?
>>563281641Strive.
This is frying my brain man I’m about to go back to mashing with Es
>>563281162funny adaptationgood job newsol>After landing from an empty jump:>1~6F cannot do any movement options except backdash>7F onwards all actions possible>After performing an action in the air (air jumping, air dashing, any air attack without specified landing recovery):>1~3F after landing is normal recovery (cannot do any action such as blocking, attacking, moving etc...)>4F onwards all actions possible>Instant blocking a strike in the air reduces the 19 frame landing recovery to 5 framesbasically if you're in the middle of an action when you land, your recovery is faster. if you empty jump your recovery is longer. if you IB while airborne your landing recovery is much faster than if you normal block
>>563281870Yeah I think I prefer "sauceless" GGST over this shit.>3C~9hjc>dl.5BMiss me with this fake shit.
>>563282149Okay personally if I had to choose between strive or specifically playing Izanami I’d still pick Izanami
>>563282149it's just a sweep and a jump cancel i think
i thought 2.0 would have a rape cancel button by this point
Why is everyone talking about Blazblue?
>>563282149She's a high execution character though've, she's not a standard example of what the game's combos are like
>>563282325High jump cancel into delayed ground normal.Why? Like seriously why.
>>563281668Seperate games. Why? Each 50 hour story modes and the arcade story modes justify it as seperate games.
high jump cancels are so dumb lmfao, literally zero depth added just an arbitrary extra input for no reason
drop the /aswg/the only generals that matter are /ggg/ and /dbfzg/
>>563282353The aswg name is still here.
>yeah bro BBCF combos aren't overcomplicated they're quite simple trust me>meanwhile lowly basic launcher combos
>>563282353It’s a pretty cool game and I’m trying to get into it more lately.>>563282686See the Izanami combo looks like a mess to me but I can at least understand this.
>>563282607i think they're fun once you get used to them. i like when they're used in combos where you super jump, slam them to the ground, then continue comboing on the way down before they tech. shit makes me feel like a dbz character
Luv me some basic combos
>>563282607I have to super jump for combos in +R, Xrd and Strive but it only annoys me in Strive because it's easy to accidentally get a TK 236K when I try to do super jump j.K.
>>563282607Fighting game devs successfully managed to convince fighting game players that arbitrary extra inputs ARE depth. Just take a look at Xrd: instead of run-up throw input being 66HS, it's 66->4+HS+S->6HS. Literally seven buttons presses for something that should take 3 at most.
>>563279267Holy fuck I hate the dustloop wiki and I hate numpad notation. Just tell me what the fucking combo is with arrows like it does in the game you fucking hipsters
Is matchmaking still fucked?
>>563283176go back to mortal kombat, jamal
>>563283176It would be even more unreadable then retard.
>>563283176>I hate numpad notationRetarded SF player detected.
>>563283176You're the hipster for wanting arrow notations unc, numpad is the new norm
When Leffen says Potemkin benefits from the wall positive nerfs what does he mean exactly?
>>563283252mk is mainly played by whites
>>563283359i dunno
>>563282686>>563283054Go play SF6 then if Anime Fighters are too hard for u.
>>563283490next youll tell me mexicans are on ethernet
>>563281131>same distanceShouldn't happen.
>>563283631I just play Es :)
>>563283054this really doesn't look that complicated. it's just aerialslop, then like 4 ground inputs.
>>563281856blowback and gravity is soo fucked up and inconsistent in jive that really anything could be the cause (inc. momentum, early cancel)even in this "2.0" patch, extensions and then consistency have been gutted in an attempt to finally reduce damage after all these yearsI mean, you can only begin reading the river once the game starts
>>563283359I assume he is talking about how someone like Zato will have less meter to work with after a super wall break to rape health bars and thus Pot can use his health like a comeback mechanic. But you shouldn't care about Leffen's opinion because this is miles better than Happy Chaos looping deus ex machina
>>563282097so, when jumping in with a button, the guy blocks it and me eating a punish it's because i hit the jump too shallow and i'm no longer in the middle of an action, thus i get the extra recovery?notednext step i guess is figuring out when to use Vortex, and confirming into revolver midscreen to get better oki
>>563283658I know, that's why I'm so fucking confused. Like at first I would accidentally cancel the second hit of f.s and that was on me, but now I have no fucking idea.>>563284037That would explain things.
Why is it bad when Elphelt and Ram want to fuck big buff men but it's fine when Jack-O does it?
After i get used to the system mechanics and settled down on -Strive- i m gonna give an honest try for Dizzy.
>>563284270record a clip
Which 5 or so characters benefit from the system changes the most?
>>563284270I forgot that they also stole Late Cancel from old Anji and gave it to everyone in jiveif you think you are cancelling too fast, I implore you to boot up Rev2 and go through Haehyun's missions
>the bunny is ragnaare we entering the kino or kuso era of guilty gear
>>563285103The bunny was a four eyes though.
>>563280367>rushdown girl = cammykill yourself, if you played 10 hours of sf you'd realize she isn't cammy
>cammy is rushdown nowwhat the fuck happened to the fgc
>>563283490Not really, EU has always been Tekken territory, Mortal Kombat was never that big over here.
>>563285340Wrong thread nigga
Is Johnny carried?
So Testament needed to be gutted because the pressure was problematic but somehow Jack-o's bullshit was perfectly fine and even got buffed?
>>563285586orrr maybe the zoner shouldn't have pressure toodid you not realize that the scope of this patch is to make char archetypes focus on only one thing and not be the best at everything?
>>563285425the opposite of carried
i wish nago didn't combo like 'that'
>>563285713>focus on only one thing and not be the best at everything?Sure could have fooled me with those Nago buffs.
>>563286104he needed them since you can throw command grabs nowthis is why devs dont do nerf patches the community is braindead and doesn't understand that a nerf patch means EVERYONE is going to lose cool things
When is it my turn against elphet, and why is she low crushiing everything? Am i mean to to immediately aa if she jumps up to do that special move thing.Speaking of jump ins why does Jam's hit low from the air.
Johnny should have a command grab
>>563285021Chipp.
Johnny was always a tierwhore character, no one cares about him if he isn't retarded OP
>>563286256My point was that Nago has extremely high damage, extremely strong pressure, extremely strong grounded mobility and some of the strongest zoning in the game. He's certainly not a character that focuses only on one thing, and despite that they decided to buff most of the things he already excelled at.>nerf patch means EVERYONE is going to lose cool thingsI fully support this principle, which is why I brought up Nago who only got new cool things without losing a goddamn thing.
Nagoriyuki isn't Nagoriyuki if he isn't making assorted Low Tier God noises every time he does any action
>>563286104they nerfed his anti-air fireball thoughever
>>563286256Command grabs have higher range so this doesnt affect people who properly space them instead of mashing like tards. Nago got exclusively buffed this patch and most retarded thing is how he now can combo blodless from anywhere on screen due to his cs being jump cancellable. They took free mid screen conversion ability from all of cast and gave it to character that before had to use his meter to do so in a patch they wanted to tone this down. Thanks to jump cancellable cs he now has high/low mixup and his buffed 5h can now catch pre jump frames. He also takes less damage and they made his fs as fast at level 2 as it was on lvl 3 due to his new special. Also he can still roman cancel his bloodrage super while no one else can lmao. All that to character that always had third highest damage output in the game and third highest health pool but with actual viable movement option unlike goldlewis or pot.
I swear to god whoever thought to put Jam's 632146H super on H instead of S needs to be fired
/ggg/ more upset about nago's cS jump cancel then millia's literal coast to coast lol
>>563287415talking about supers i'm surprised soive didnt make it so that they can be performed with 236HS/S+D or something really easy
>>563287560No one plays Millia.
>>563287560Millia doesn't kill you in 2 hits.
>>563287885downplaying millia's damage when she's one of the only 3 touch characters left in the 5 touch patch is wild work
>>563286946>that always had third highest damage output in the gameHe had the highest damage output at one point, being able to ToD low-hp characters like Zato from roundstart. And it wasn't just a meme, but actually practical roundstart option too.
Leo's still top tier, Nago and Chipp are top tier again, it's looking extremely likely HC's still top tier. What did this patch do for the balance again?
>>563283175no one thinks rc breaking to run up throw is added complexity, it's just something you had to do to actually run up throw because you because throws were way more restrictive in previous games. you are pretending to be mad about something that doesn't exist.
>>563288183strive patches aren't about balance, and more about accessibility imo. which is why HC and asuka got reworked to be easier to play, and the only "balance changes" are >hurr durr sol has 1 more frame on his 5k
>>563283176yeah can you show me you typing out a combo using arrows, no copy pasting allowed please use every single alt key shortcut to achieve this
pump more nerf patches
>>563288183to maximize fun for jacko players as she is the only character allowed to setplay
>>563285021>potemkin>WA being removed hurts him more than most>less burst meter from taking damage hurts him more than most>not being able to use meter to get out of missing his command grab hurts him the most out of anyone in the whole cast>prc scaling hurts him more than most just look at hammerfall prc potbuster damageDespite all these nerfs plus personal nerfs it appears Potemkin still is far from dead. Regardless I don't know how people like Leffen can say the system changes helped him more than they hurt him. Does his high guts with everyones damage being lowered negate and surpass all 4 of these system changes that hurt him?
>>563288363Throws were literally less restrictive though, there were no whiff animations and you could OS it with all face buttons except Dust to get whatever normal you wanted on whiff. Most characters also got meterless combos from them. The only way they were more restrictive than in Strive is the dash exception, you aren't allowed to do a throw while dashing, which is entirely arbitrary and also pointless since you can FD brake which takes 1 frame so run-up throws still exist and are extremely powerful. The restriction has no reason to exist, if you took it away and allowed throwing while dashing literally nothing would change at a high level, the game would just be slightly more accessible to new players as they could use the most basic mix-up in fighting games without breaking their fingers. FD braking for run-up throws is the epitome of arbitrary extra input for no reason, which started this convo.
>>563288850>throws in older games aren't more restrictive because everything that made them restrictive was completely arbitraryi mean when you reduce literally everything yeah you're right i guess. throws having a powerful OS doesn't change the fact that just using them was factually more restrictive than in strive where you can literally just do it.
i hear about the complaints and such but playing faust i feel as free as the wind as though nothing changed since last season
>>563289093not him but I'm not sure what you mean by restrictivethrow in xrd only comes out when a throw would actually land, so the only extra "freedom" you have in strive is to whiff a throw animation I guess?
>>563289093Again, not being allowed to throw while dashing is the only way the throws are more restrictive, in all other ways they are less restrictive. Being able to use a normal while also inputting a throw that causes your opponent to get thrown if they burst is less restrictive than in Strive where you have to commit to a throw. I'd say the freedom of being able to use throw whenever you use any normal weights far more than the fact you technically can't use them during a dash which can be circumvented with extra inputs. And you are failing to address the main point: Nothing about the game would change at a high level if you allowed dash throws. It is quite literally execution for the sake of execution.
Holy fucking shit I am playing like dog ass this morning for some reason What the fuck is wrong with me? I'm literally dashing towards the enemy and panic staggering and just eating combos I'm not even blocking for shit I need to play some NMH instead or something to get the edge off this sucks
I made it to bronzeHow consistent are anti-airs in this game? People are starting to just spam jump dashes
>>563289685very
>>563289307the fact that you throws are proximity based and you cannot perform them dashing means throws at the very base level are more restrictive, are there ways to get around said restrictions by OS'ing and fd breaking? yes but these were necessary actions to learn because throws were more restrictive to begin with, the original anon was complaining about arbitrary "complex" inputs, but these inputs were developed because of said restrictions, not because someone just arbitrarily decided this should be the input for run up throw.
what is jam's anti air button
>>5632896856p is literally upper body invulnerable so it's as consistent as it gets but it's an anime game so it's not as simple as clicking an anti air when someone jumps
>>563288601If you take away jack-os setplay then she needs to be completely remade with new specials. It's not a Ram situation where they could destroy her swordspam and just push her focus to her other moves because Jack-O has no moves except make a minion, kick the minion, and attack with minion.
>>563289685they kneecapped cS just yesterday so that jump-ins can finally contest
>>563289742You are not very bright, are you?
Is it true that they butchered every zoner in the game
>>563289964the only way you would think fdbreak throw is an arbitrary input is if you think the devs themselves created it instead of something players figure out to get around said throw mechanics. do you know what arbitrary means?
>>563289595meanwhile I've been playing amazing games and integrated some tech for the first time in live matchesfeeling good. thanks for the talent donation
>>563290038Leffen said that zoners are massively buffed by the system changes so Testament players shouldn't be complaining.
>FD break wasn't intentional
>>563290103I dont fucking care about that rapist
>>563290038No, they just exposed the zoners in this game are biggest bitches in the game
>>563289727>>563289816>>563289934What about this move? I'm probably slow to react with it right now but I'm expecting more consistency + reward
>>563290189as someone who's been exploded by this countless times, I can vouch for it having good reward significant recovery if you whiff but its hitbox is pretty large
Anyone got tips for consistently getting monowire cancels on Lucy? I can't get the proper timing right in combos.>>563290038Just play Axl. He's still good, though they really want him to be A zoner.
>>563290038ADs still have delay, so both zoners and everyone that can spam long pokes are still safe
>>563290189it's rewarding but you'll eat shit more often than not trying to anti air with it
>>563290050So your argument boils down to: "Devs didn't want run-up throws to be a thing, players figured out that you could do run-up throws using FD braking, and the devs didn't bother fixing it even though their design intention was to not have run-up throws"? That's not exactly an argument in favor of the game even if it was true, but we also know it's not true because FD braking was a thing in +R so they knew it was possible but didn't change it in Xrd. So FD braking to do run-up throws in Xrd is very much intentional decision by the devs, not something players figured out about the system. Hence, it is arbitrary. It is based on personal whim of the creators rather than any reason as it changes nothing about how the game plays at the intended level, unless you want to argue that they intentionally put it into the game to make the game more difficult for beginners. Although considering how retarded FGC devs can be, that is a real possibility.
>>563290038WHAT THE F-
Lobby?
>>563290489i mean you could call them not patching it out arbitrary yes, but the input itself which is what we're talking about is not arbitrary, it was a direct result of the mechanics that were already present in the game. it is not there by without necessity or reason, people figured it out because they wanted to get around not being able to throw while dashing. devs not patching shit out for whatever reason is not something uncommon in video games so i have no idea what kind of response this is suppose to be.
>>563290038I like ai now...
>>563291065like rocket jumping in quake was not an intended mechanic and clearly an exploit on the games engine/systems but i don't think anyone in the world would call it arbitrary, the devs also did not patch it out.
>>563290189>>563290459Thank you sirs. I'll do it anyway because I want the dp motion muscle memory
>>563290038The game has been made largely less volatile with the toned down damage and removal of wild assault, so Zoners are likely better across the boardAxel got a lot of buffsGobou said Asuka is still good despite every other Asuka player saying he's dead so give it like a month for everyone to copy him again The only Zoner who might have actually gotten hit is Testament and that might just be people being babies about their character getting touched in anyway rather than Testament being actually worse
>>563291065You ignored the fact that they intentionally implemented it from +R. It wasn't something that was new to Xrd. Xrd is in a completely different engine. They didn't carry over code, they had to intentionally recode it to mimic the same behaviour as it has in +R.You seem to be confused here, the input is arbitrary because the reason for it's use is arbitrary. Yes, FD and FD braking already existed as mechanics separate from a throw, but the decision to force you use FD braking to do a run-up throw is an arbitrary one, as there is no reason for it. Instead of forcing FD braking, you could have just allowed throws to come out during dash. The input would be simpler and nothing else about the game would change. Hence, it is arbitrary.To use Strive to compare and contrast: Johnny was able to jump cancel his dash, and then cancel his jump start-up into special moves. This allowed him do essentially cancel his dash into specials. This wasn't intended (at least I don't think it was), but the devs liked it so decided to keep it in the game and when they did, they decided to remove the requirement for the jump input as it was arbitrary now that they had made the decision that Johnny's dash cancelling into specials was intentional.Inputs should serve some purpose. For example motions require certain number of frames to input, which among other things means they have additional start-up when done from a neutral state. They will have an effect on the gameplay. If you can remove an input and it will not affect the gameplay in any way other than increasing execution, it is arbitrary.
The meme free hard knockdown for 50% burst is really gay, just like back when slime- wild assault did it, but I like it.
jam is so braindead
>>563292682So nothing has changed
Goldlewis gameplay just looks just so legendarily based. That's all i can say. Punch in to Half-Circle. Big big big big damage.
i hate that sf6 is the only playable fg in my shitholejust q'd for like 6 minutes and couldnt get a single match
How much would I be gimping myself if I only buy the base game?Can you reasonably learn the match ups by just playing against people or is labbing almost required?
How's Anji now?
I dont know how to unlearn backdash and grab on reaction now that theyre not strong defensive options
>>563292187>They didn't carry over codenta but ackchually there is no way to now this, both mt framework and unreal engine use c++ they very much easily could of
Does tempestede not work or is the game just shit at explaining how to do it? I'm doing the inputs correctly but it does fuck all.
>>563292829which third world shit hole? i thought strive was popular in Latin-Amerikas
Let's be serious for a second. Does he really need this?
>>563292905Labbing won't be required until you get really high in rank. and even then you can just creamapi the dlc characters.
>>563293127Yeah
>>563292919>One thing I can say, Anji can still fight but he's not strong
>>563292936>mt frameworkDunno where you got that from, Google says that Capcom started developing that in 2004, whereas X2 was released in 2002. It was also developed for an arcade cabinet first with the console ports coming afterwards, though I suppose it is possible that some of the later console ports made use of mt framework and then that code got reused in Xrd. I highly doubt it, but it is possible I guess.
>>563292826Goldlewis has only gotten worse over time, but is still pretty cool.
>>563292187>This wasn't intended (at least I don't think it wasHe received dash jumps in the elphelt patch so it was intentional. Kara card is just more niche than kara bite
>>563292905if you buy it on steam you can unlock the dlc through creamapi fairly easily, but you dont need to do it immediatelysee if you like the game first
>>563293006brazil. I think I'm just being overly optimistic since its like 11am rn and most people q at night
>>563292996How the fuck do you do tempestede for gio? Im doing the quarter circles but nothing works? This makes no fucking sense
https://youtu.be/rM_NG8qltNc>Doesn't play the game>Still predicted game>Still does craziest shit in it
>>563293415wtf is tempestede? the in air super?
>>563293336Dash jumps were intentional yeah, but I dunno if cancelling the jump pre-frames into specials was also intentional. Remember that their patches are incredibly sloppy (Nago can still RC his invincible super for example) so it's possible that they didn't consider it at the time.
>>563293492It's the second overdrive giovanna can do.
It's always Millia or Leo, isn't it?
>introduce a mechanic to instantly stop run momentum by canceling into FD>somehow the fact that people would do it to get a throw out quicker escaped the devs
>>563293487>any time in shock state you can lighting strike themi don't know who this guy is, but i like his kuso ideas.
>>563293714well re read my post
2.0 bracket set for april 18th 5pm estglobal tournamentdouble elimination ft3register HEREhttps://challonge.com/tournaments/signup/VW257aRG8F#/signup/f28yvue9lfall skill levels welcome, all regions welcomecome have a good time, beat off with the gigggers
>>563293857it is I think?
>>563293579You seriously think they didn't consider dash jump kara specials when season 2's gimmick was dash kara specials?
>>563293892
>>563294009do it in air, it's an air super236236HS while being in air
Any weeklies or tournament? Our own fucking around is all well and good but I'm curious to see what things are like at top levels
563293487does this guy just samefag and advertise himself all fucking day
>>563293828Clayton always has the best ideas they're cool af.
you're not a real ni/ggg/er if you weren't around for when the game took 20 minutes to boot and you had to mod it to fix it.
I honestly feel that Nago and Goldlewis could have been in Missing Link.
>>563294074but i did do it in the air, I said I did it and it didn't do anything.
>>563294209I still have totsugeki.exe on my desktop
>>563294209Yeah I fucking wasAll it took was necbeard spending 5 minutes in his basement to fix it it all.
>>563294119Reminder that we wouldn't know half the shit we do in Guilty Gear without him. Know your place tranny.
>>563293302>>563293923>>563294064>>563294297That's it i'm gonna practice some Goldlewis now!!
>>563294297And now Goldlewis can dash under Axl's 5P
i love fighting bad/mediocre fausts, easiest MU everyou run under their j2K bomb gimmick and they're completely lost
>>563293892imagine drinking baiken's breast milk like it's hot chocodamm i would empty those bags and who ever would pull me up would be crowned King Ky Kiske!!
>>563294209>strive 2.0 edition costs 90$strive could've been the fighting game of a generation if they made the base roster free
>>563294209My favorite was whenever they resurrected the beta 'can't connect to station'-bug, and it took them forever to fix it every single time. God, I love being trapped for 5+ minutes knowing it'll always end up with a failed to start match.
>>563294335A pedophile could cure cancer and his throat would still be slit because he fucks childrenand guilty gear tips aint medical practice
Remember hackerman?
>>563294514I'm sure using Granblue's f2p model for a f2p Strive would do wonders.
>>563294740Yeah, but he only hurt faggots like Sajam and Hotashi, so I don't care about him.
>>563294826yeah probably but theyd have to constantly fight people patching the free edition into the full game with all dlc unlocked
>>563294715wtf does that have to do with Clayton?https://youtu.be/4cRyBEFgsjQGuy is one of the only truly good people we have in the scene.
HOW THE FUCK DO YOU MONOWIRE CANCEL WITH LUCY WITH THIS FUCKING HORRENDOUS INPUT BUFFER THAT INPUTS YOUR INPUTS BEFORE YOU EVEN INPUT THEM FUCKING INPUTCEPTION I'M GOING INSANEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>563295117Clayton is the LTG of the wfgc
The irony is that people were trying to fuck Clayton when he was a kid in the scene because he was so pretty lmfao. People really are so desperate to hate on him they can't even keep their stories straight about why he's the boogey man anymore.
Shut up Clayton.
>>563292919disappointingly about the samefor all the shit they took away, they still haven't given him a 3P, and the consolation prize was jK/jS beating cS because of the system-wide nerf
>>563295293Go back to fgg faggot
>>563295351>>563295268>>563295406Sounds like Clayton beat you guys pretty bad.
>>563295085If this game history tell us anything, available even a single character available for free everytime like Sol, it could go a long way, hell, there's a F2P chink player that won some EVO with F2P Gran.
WHAT THE FUCK DID I EVEN EXCEPT FROM THE GAME WHEN I CAN RANDOMLY MASH DIRECTIONS ON MY FUCKING DPAD AND IT WILL SOMEHOW STILL INPUT TK BOMBA BUT WHEN I DO IT PROPERLY IT ALWAYS ENDS UP IN FUCKING 6HFUCK YOU ARCSYS NIGGERS FUCK YOU
>>563295238it's easy just rebind your buttons maybe, i have them like thisP K SHS Dash D on a hitbox
>>563294209jumping around the setups for 5 minutes trying to get around the errors was funny looking back on it now
>>563295238While I am not good enough to do them in combos, I'm guessing you essentially plink the H and D buttons.My D button is right below my H button so I would basically press and drag my finger down to the D buttonmy bigger problem is mistiming my inputs from a freeze like quickhack and getting my input eaten by the freeze not quite wearing off
>>563295662Nah I got it but now I can't connect shit after it.
Our favorite washed Johnny is backhttps://www.twitch.tv/omitojohnny
entire character designed around not being able to fucking see what theyre doing because there are too many particles on screen
No seriously how the fuck am I supposed to connect c.S from 2S-S>2H>monowire cancel
>>563296339you aren't? you can probably get 2K 6HS
>>563296107https://gamebanana.com/mods/436475anyone got any idea if this still works?
any zatobros in here?does eddie feel slower to you? is this a gasleak?
>charge commands went from 30 frames to 25 framesHow good is this for May?
>>563296420As it turns out I just had to microdash and it werks. Sometimes.
Been trying to do placements and I haven't won a single match and even learning combos none of it feels useful. This games online is dogshit.
>>563297231>is shit>blames gametale old as time
>>563294030Yes, I think that is very much a possibility. Remember that the dev team is really incompetent and the patch changes get very little testing. Do I really need to go over every change that had obvious, unintended consequences, or all the various terrible ideas that they reverted in the next patch, or all the bugs and glitches they've introduced? I'm not saying it's what happened, but it is very much possible some intern thought it would help Johnny if he could dash-jump, suggested it, and everyone else agreed without thinking about the consequences.
>>563297231combos dont matter at that level, just skip around a guide or look at the dustloop page for your character and specifically look for the key moves or what's unsafe. Get familiar with them and play a lot in tower if you get ranked anxiety and dont worry about a lot of the system mechanics yet
>>563297509The dev team is so good people thought they made IBs easier when they were IBing every single blockstring. Maybe we are the ones too retarded for strive
>>563297231Practicing combos has to be the biggest pitfall newfags go through.Learning combos will only make you a worse player as a newfag because you will only play around fishing for combos + online nerves will make you drop most of them anywayJust play around basic button button specials mini combos until you feel more comfortable.
>>563297567But everybody is literally doing combos on me even super low guys? How do combos not matter when everybody I see is doing them?
>>563297657what the other anon said, you aren't able to recognize it yet but they're either a lot more experienced than you because it's a 5 year old game, or they're tunnel visioning in on combos and they cant do anything else. Don't worry about winning the matches if you have to, just think about why youre pressing a button each time you press an attack and if you're doing it with intent or you're just flailing around. Try playing slower and let them press buttons while you block and if they do something big and flashy that misses, then try to attack. That's a victory even if you arent winning matches yet
>>563297981I got touch of death'd twice by someone so idk what the fuck to do man. This game makes no sense in how it feels like I get people talking out of two sides of their mouths man none of this shit makes sense.
is Elphelt good? having a lot of fun playing her
the extra shit on top is apparently what they meant in the notesbecause they refuse to remove AD delay and reintroduce the immediate threat of crosses and jump-ins, we SF nowthanks dash macro
>>563298137Because there's a lot of returning oldfags so MMR is jumbled up. there's also going to be a lot of old players that didn't play since ranked was added so they'll be at shitter mmr aswell.That's just the consequences of a big patch.
>>563298137if you're able to record a match or you have a question about a character someone can try to offer more specific help
Anyone would be interested in a EU lobby?all level welcome, but fair ewarning, I don't know how long I can keep it open, might be very short.Just kind of want to play with you guys.
>>563298301I don't know who to play at all and I only have the base version of strive because fuck paying 80 bucks. Every one of the simple characters I've tried don't feel simple at all and I feel like I get punished for even trying to press any button from them.
>>563296107Just wait till you see this guy!
>>563298812new to fighting games? they're hard
>>563298812use the DLC unlocker https://github.com/FroggMaster/CreamInstaller
>>563298812May and Ky were the easiest for me getting started as my first real attempt at learning a fighting game, who were you trying and what felt overwhelming or complicated? There is learning involved and you can't treat a loss as a loss, it's like learning anything new, of course you're going to mess up you've never done it before
>>563298649yeah i was about to host one in a bit myself so go for it.
>>563299106At first I played sol but I felt like I couldn't do anything but get combo'd to death, then I moved to may and the same thing except I couldn't do anything damage wise, then I went to gio and the same thing as well. I still haven't won a single round in any of my placement matches
>>563298942I've played sf6 and a lot of soul calibur 2 and soul calibur 2 feels way more fun than this man. I just feel like there if im having problems I can actually look at a combo and then be able to actually execute it without dealing with something I can't understand
>>563298892I don't get it
>>563299380you probably played sc2 against the cpu but your nostalgia warped it as it being more fun because you were winning even when being bad. everyone starts bad, so dont worry. but if you're not willing to each shit for a while until you grasp the game then you should just stop playing it rn and go do something else with your time
Luce feels so much more fun now that your opponent doesn't derstroy you after one interaction.
I don't understand how people get filtered this hard by fighting games. Just open a gameplay video on youtube and copy what you see even if you don't fully understand the decision making.
>>563299874feels weird getting 3 touched as millia. I'm used to dying after one combo
>>563299280Try everyone that looks appealing just go into training with them and press buttons and just see who feels good that you think you might like to learn then stick with them, you're making it harder if you swap around, you want to be able to press the buttons without having to think about it. Who do you like in sf6 or what level did you get to there?
>>563299874Share your secrets with me o-'wise one.
I hope we never see a HC cocksucker in a top 8 of any tournament ever again.
>>563300342it's bound to happen
>>563299874how would you recommend neutral be playedAlso, can I conceptually chunk c.S 6H 214{H} QH 214K into stuff and2SS 2H 214{H} QH 214K into stuffin the same 'this is a metered combo extender' block in my head? Where would I want to use one over the other?Because the second is way easier to autopilot.
>>563300342Fingers crossed/Monkey paw curled at EVO Japan boi.
>>563300342It's funny watching people on twitter slowly realize he is still fucked up
>>563300054>ou like in sf6 or what level did you get to there?I liked ken and I think I was bronze in ranked but I never played ranked because ranked sucks. I'm only playing ranked here because people always tell me it's the only way to play it I guess.
>Broke my PS4 controller on Tekken 7 when i was doing EWGF grind on Heihachi (The literal DF portion of d-pad became hollow through so much stress, pressure and usage)>My HitBox is okay but the cable breaks as usual>Now my spare fighting pad Hori Commander Octa breaks down kinda, with no idea what went wrong but it has tremendous amount of ghost movementWhy the fuck are FIGHTING GAME controllers so FUCKING ASS??!! Like bro i could pay $300 just for a fucking pad that lasts the test of time not some cheap temu plastic shit. Like this just pisses me off so much. FUCK I HATE FIGHTING GAME CONTROLLERS!!!
>>563300342HC is allowed to be fucked up after the nerfs because it only really matters for top players in tournaments noweveryone else is chilling
>>563300421>>563300478>>563300497I remember when they first '''''nerfed''''' him and gave him complementary buffs he ended up just being giga buffed and turned from a nigger zoner to a nigger zoner with insane mix instead.I swear if this shit happens again these jap niggers deserve to have the game die and going bankrupt.
>>563300650try ky, no character is going to be exact but most of his moves are straightforward. There was a big influx of players with the new update so you can play in the tower if you're able to find matches in your region, just go to the lowest floor youre able to with some amount of players after you get mostly familiar with his moves
How many of you actually fought a good Happy Chaos, like a *good* one? The hate seems really unfounded for the average player, 99% of HC players do not know how to properly use the character, you really shouldnt be talking like a trauma victim over him
>>563299107Sorry for the late reply bro I was performing my Kizzic duties.I'll get to making the lobbies right now.
Did Chipp and Nago get the best new special moves out of any character?
>>563301056yes
>>563300663I genuinely gave up on controllers and just bit the bullet and learned to play on keyboard instead, having to buy new controllers so frequently is just annoying as fuck. you should do the same or get a hitbox.
>>563300928Man im iron 1 and my final match was against that new character and I couldn't even do a counter against her or that thing where you do some move to push the enemy away.
>>563300959Most people who spend any amount of time actually playing in celestial run into good HCs.
Potemkin is a solid mid tier now?
>>563300434The neutral is were I'm really bad at, I always get obliterated in mirror matches to an embarassing level.>c.S 6H 214{H} QH 214K into stuff>2SS 2H 214{H} QH 214K into stuffYou can use microdash K pickup from 6H for more corner carry.
>>563301373lol no, went from top 3 to top 5 MAYBE
>>563298649>>563299107>>563300979>Skill levels: all welcome>Room made in EU: All regions welcome, but if you feel it's too much for you to handle, just says so to your opponent, don't just leave them out to dryCode-room : 087158
when i queue ranked i know it takes a while because everyone SENSES me and they SCURRY
>>563301316why the fuck are you on celestial
>>563300663Just buy new cable for hitbox??I have custom made hitbox for more than a decade now and I only changed the cable once.
>>563301659And here are the room rules.Gonna get a glass of some beverage before coming back, you guys have funplease be nice to each others
Who are the 5 hardest characters to play in Strive?
>>563302147Leo, Sol, Ram, Baiken, Nago.
>>563302147venom, zato, asuka, jaggo, happy chaos
>>563302147my main
https://x.com/i/status/2042724097486921846SoooSlayer lost all his damage and combo routes huh
>>563301226idk what to do man
>>563302341damnit, anonnow they're gonna delete him tomorrow
>>563302546Didn't this guy bully a mentally ill man into suicide by pretending to be his friend
>>563302665why the random mcdonalds line
>>563301373He doesn't really have any glaring weaknesses like he did in S2. I mean even abare has been standardized.
>>563302791have you never seen the meme where the character is working on mcdonalds after they get nerfed
>>563302095infinite rematches should be changed
>>563302791Twitter/Twitch meme. "Put the fries in the bag" and so on.
>>563302696he acted like the mentally ill guy was a threat to his safety even after he apologized repeatedly
No amount of "his new staffs have so much POTENTIAL" will convince me Asuka isn't abject dogshit now.
>>563302976No, fuck you, infinite rematches are the reason you play in a room. If you want to have loading screens every time a match ends, go to ranked or tower.
>>563303169it's to have people take turns lil nigga
>>563302341>PBloops are now more delay dependent what's the point when every champ has 200+ damage slop combos
>>563302935>He doesn't really have any glaring weaknesses>slowest character in the game>biggest model>no air dash Potemkin is still plenty good but its silly to claim he has no glaring weaknesses
>>563303169Excuse me, nigger? I'm only sharing the same breath with you because I'm actually merciful with the dogs in this thread. Refute your little pathetic comment right now or i WILL rape you with my mini-fausts.
>>563303321>wow I can't wait to use my unmatched mobility to run circles around Pot!>what do you mean buster still has a 50/50 chance to catch me?
how do I
>>563303218Yes, I know, that's why it's dogshit. I don't want my play interrupted by some fag wanting """his turn""". He can wait for someone else to show up for all I care. Infinite rematches means I either play the game, or wait for someone to show up while comfortably alt-tabbing. Instead of being forced to constantly switch back and forth as some little bitch-ass nigga wants to take turns instead of waiting like a man.
>>563303418Nothing you just said retorts the idea that he has no glaring weaknesses. Being huge and slow is not ideal. Think of it this way, imagine if he was really fast and small?
>>563303472>bitch ass nigga waiting because he loses all the timei can tell this is why you're against it
what the fuck is Jam's damage LMAO
the lack of winstreak bonuses makes the diamond grind a fucking slog
>>563303618Grappler Chipp? What is this, Blazblue?
would Jack o be bad to learn as my first main
>>563303765Just play who you like.
>>563303934Terrible advice.>>563303765Yes.
>>563304137No one sticks to a fighting game being forced to play the designated beginner friendly characters if they don't like them.>Play X first to learn fundamentalsYou're making it seem like homework
>>563303765I would try to be familiar with the system mechanics first
>>563303765play whoever you want, people try way too fucking hard to overoptimize a new players experience.She looks cool to you, so try her
>>563304524>>563304307>>563303934I would agree in case of any other character. Jack-O is unironically just too complex for a new player.
>>563304712dude you just 2k 2d put a minion and kick it, i'd agree if it was hc or asuka
>>563304761what's a 2k 2d
>>563304712I beg to differJack-O lets you learn something that you can't really learn with any other character, which is spontaneity and taking advantage of extreme scramble.At her core, she's really simple, but the complexity comes from how all of her pieces interact with each other.t. kind of made her work from her release until Testament's release until I dropped the game after season 1
The /ggg/ standard is FT3, not infinite rematchesArguing anything else is screaming to the world you're a newfag and didn't play in the god lobbies
>>563304912low kick then bigger low kick
>>563304980Delay Xrd didn't allow you to set FT3 though, the only options were no rematches or infinite rematches. So it turns out you are the candy-ass.
>>563303765just bomb loop lol
okay thx guys jack o just seemed fitting since i used to main olimar in smashslayer seemed cool gonna try him first
>>563305109The /ggg/ Strive regulars were way better than any of the Xrdfags
Neco-Arc of Strive?No, Faust doesn't count.
>>563305492But I'm both...
>>563305552Poster character that a disproportionate number of freaks latch on to and idolize, while actual fans roll their eyes and heave a mighty sigh?Bridget, it couldn't be anyone else.
can only normals cancel into overdrives?
>>563306179yeah
>>563305109yep yep yep!all i needed to know lol
>>563306268gay
>>563306179you can kara cancel the startup of specials into overdrive as well Its mostly useful in moves that have a followup, like a rekka
>>563306179depends some characters can kara cancel into super like sin, goldlewis and recently nago and kyslayer can cancel his dandy step into his super
>>563306436Explain how Axl is broken
>>563306752>40% from random P
hello is anyone else here retarded
I'm surprised how few people are complaining about how obviously fucked the matchmaking is right now. I've seen enough to know it's not just me, but I feel like there was more of an immediate outcry when streamers were getting hacked, which says a lot about our fighting game society when you think about it.
>>563307852i'm non verbal autistic and can only communicate on anonymous image boards
>>563307852gagler hereeveryone here except me is, yes.
holy lmao I remember hackermangood times
All Happy Chaos players are fucking niggers who should get killed and raped and then killed again. Fuck them. Hope someone kills all HC """pro""" players. Especially that troon. Can't even fucking try out new characters without encountering some inbred HC sweatlord. Niggers.
>>563301659Still open, need one non-gagler in here.
You know, the Sol changes are actually fun
>>563301659>>563302095Room changed to FT3 by popular demandPlayercount is 3/4Taking a bit of a break because I got absolutely bodied by a Lucy/I-no player, though of course, I suck massive dicks so it's no surprise, GG to that guy.I'll try to keep the room open for as I can unless something shit the bed so come have fun with your /ggg/ frensIs Smellphat hard? I feel like I'm having a really hard time getting anything done with her but then again I only started playing the game since yesterday
>>563308375HOW DO I COMBO AFTER CLEAN HIT SIDEWINDER IGNITED
What are some basics I should know when learning Zato? I started out confident but now that I've been playing him for about a week I see I'm only in the very shallows of a deep pool of knowledgeRight now I'm relying on very basic S, S, HS, PIERCE, 2S, FROG, then doing some bullshit negative edge shit in the corner for fine damage and 2K 2S, summoning Eddie and starting pressure from behind I'm starting to incorporate negative edge more and just now finding out drunkard shade summons Eddie behind the opponent which has been helping as well But I can't help but feel I'm missing fundamental knowledge and not playing correctly, I'm scraping by and I want to do better.Please zato bros, carve my way
>>5633085182K or RC Bandit Bringer into bullshit for even more damage
>>563306436Is HC still seriously top tier?
This time we nerfed EVERYONE**not including Chipp, Leo, Giovanna or Anji
>>563308995If you let him get his bullets he's unironically more fucking annoying to play against than before.
>>563308817Good ol 2K, 6S? Aight.
>>563309104>or AnjiHe's one of the hardest nerfed characters in the game retard
who to main if I want to run away and spam projectiles
>>563309104Lucy kind of crab walked
>>563307852Yes I join ranked literally just to be good for chads with brains I am combo fodder and garbage that serves only as a stepping stone for people who aren't retarded and it's so embarrassing because I've been playing for longer than I'd like to admit. Unfortunately I have autism and ADHD so I have a select few games I hyper fixate on and guilty gear gets me the most. Trying hard is hard so I try hard to try hard, or so they say
>>5633091435K works too but is spacing dependant
>>563308643You should learn the rising j.P framekill for the high low mixHe's unironically a decent bit harder this version, since you can't crutch on c.h 2s into wallbreakZato's general gameplan is getting the opponent to block drills so you can run real offense, so you should learn how his RPS works on block to get that started
SUSHI
>>563308428>>5633020953/4
Thanks for the Lucy/I-no and Leo player for the set, I'll be taking off now, but don't worry I'll keep the lobby open for as I can.Again:All region welcome, but don't take it bad if someone doesnt want to play with you because of latency, some region jus doesn't matchRules are FT3, winner stays, you guys have fun.
does leo getting a stance jump even matter when he already has unreactable mix in backturn
this game is reminding me why i quit sfv for tekken 7. 2d games require you to have good reactions
>>563309104HC and Nago are both really good it appears.
>>563303718Which BB character is fast/small grappler?
>>563309104>AnjiAll his routes, pressure and damage were taken and all he got in return was some frametraps that people will stop falling for in a week.
>>563311145>Rules are FT3Gay that you changed it.
>>563312016Bullet.
Is the audio quality just really bad for anyone else, anything to do to improve it?
>>563312158shut up retardplay park if you never want off the cab
>>563312158Can't please everyone.
>>563312184>>563312016How generate does your game have to be to have a rush down grappler?
>>563312314Why don't you play tower if you want to waste everyone's time with loading screens and switching match-ups constantly?
Can someone explain to me why I'm making it through Diamond 3 way quicker than Diamond 2? I'm at 42K BP already and I've only been here since Wednesday. What happens when I hit Vanquisher?
>>563312184Bullet's kneecaps are almost as broken as Tager's. She's got the worst step dash in the game and struggles to get in against any character that can even moderately zone well.
How is a slow character supposed to get in against new HC?
>>5633111453/9
>>563312413take your adhd medicationit's less than a minute of down time between switching people in and out. you'll be fine
>>563312565>Just waste a bunch of time for no reason bro, it's not a big deal because it isn't that much time!No, fuck you. Why don't you give me five dollars? It's not that much money, right, so you can just give it away for no reason, right?
>>563306436I thought Pot was still top tier though? Or did literally 10+ nerfs knock him down a peg?
>Strive Looking good>Invincible Vs looking good>Tokon Looking good>>casuals still not satisfied
>>563312787meds, quite literally
Oh, you're playing happy chaos? that's cool bro. anyway I gotta pause the game brb man
>Anji's rin combo ender is now so bad you can literally mash after it
>>563312990>We have top 4>1. Street Fighter>2. GUILTY GEAR -STRIVE>3. MARVEL TOKON>4. INVINCIBLE VS>Tekken, MK?! Never herd of such loser games Wthat the fuck is happening in FGCs
>>5633132292k beats your opponent mashing on wakeup after normal Rin I think
can they remove peeo peefang nobody likes him
>>563313504i like him
>>563310580SOMEONE PLAY THE BACON
>>563312990Does Inversus have fun champs? The animations look jank af
>>5633133612025 was a fucking horrendous year for fighting games if you werent a granblue player
>The followup hitboxes literally don't active against Jack-O minionsTell me how this is balanecd
Johnny has really fun setups and combos, why do people call him boring?
>>563312990>Invincible Vs looking goodlmao
>>563312990invincible vs looks like nrs slop
>>563282686explain what is complicated about those combos
>>563313396Lmao that only works on grounded hits near the corner
>>563313806and if you were a granblue player you were used to suffering dogshit games anyway
>>563314342Honestly I just mash f.S right after for the time being because either my opponent doesn't know they can mash yet and I just continue my pressure or they realize they can mash too late. I've fished quite a few counterhits already just doing that
>>563314091Brother this shits fine, people complain too much about roster sizes and it's never meant a thing to the games success.
>>563281060she's extra mean to Bea
>>563314708>it's never meant a thing to the games success.Yes it hasIt's also not just the size
>>563314091This series designs are worse than capeshit parodies
>Kythe only character i got through the old Tower ranks with, like how solid and simple he is, and scamming with stun dipper - but he's not a hot chick>Unikait's kind of Ky but a hot chick, i've played her a bit and she's very cool. might be who i should focus on>Jam, Lucyi waited so long for Jam. i loved her in old GG, but honestly that was before i was really playing fighting games and just a kid mashing cool moves. i actually suck/don't really enjoy super fast gorilla characters. both super cool though. >Elpheltmight be too dumb even for a dummy like me, it's just not that fun or satisfying to do random rekka variations and hope. >Bridgetabsolutely love the feeling of expression from rolling movement, but really i have no idea what i am doing, all the need for aerial skills, low damage needing lots of hits. maybe in another life where i had skills. just thinking out loud, and, think i should probably focus on Unika.
>>563315038it's a capeshit parody series btw :D
>>563315179*was
Do people actually like Invincible? I watched 3 episodes and thought the animation was dreadful, and ultimately not worth my time.
>>563315179It's not a parody, Invincible takes itself very seriously most of the time.
strive still so trash people are talking about marvel, so much for 2.0 saving the game
>>563315179>it's a capeshit parody series btw :DNo it's not, it's unironically some retard's budget capeshit
>>563315352Yes. Its big with normgroids for some reason. Look up at views of trailers for that game its insane lol more than any other fg in past 5 years. Beta had a lot of normie casuals rage quitting because of that
>>563315352I mean yeah it's pretty good I like it. It has animation issues but that's really not a damper on the actual story, could always go to the comic for good art.
>>563315501this is marvel generalhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/3l3KZv39fs4
>>563315101youre not thinking out loud youre typing and clicking post numbnutsHEY EVERYONELAUGH AT THIS LOSER FOR BEING INSECURE ABOUT SPEAKING HIS MIND
>>563315501I'm shitposting while fucking up combos in training mode sorry bro
>>563315529Normies getting into fighting games because of an adaptation of a series they like is genuinely so funny to me and I don't know why. I used to date a guy who when I told him I played Strive, he was like>How do you memorize all those combos? I can't even remember the combos in the Spider-Man gamesI had to resist laughing when he said that. >>563315673I haven't read a comic book since I was a teenager. I'm nearly 32.
>>563316032Yeah, we know
GGs Leo, I didn't know how to open the chat to say last one before the last set
>>563308428you should play slayer hit his special counter YUNIVERSE
>>563316659GGs bro, thanks for the sets.
Talking about this game anywhere is exhausting right now because all anyone wants to do is whine about how their main is unplayable post patch.
>>563316885Reminds me of when they went from Xrd Rev to Rev2.
>>563316885what you wanna talk about?i love baikens tits
There's a lobby up?
>>563317531trannies not welcome
>>563317640Afraid I'm a challenge?
>>563315101Lucy is my new favorite fighting game character in any fighting game, and I am shocked with how little it took to convince me to go all in on LucycoinI haven't even seen the anime
>>563318475Yeah big guy.
Having fun with ABA. Granted I never played her pre-2.0 so hard to feel how much worse she is but she still turns into a can opener shot out of a gun when she pops jealous rage. It’s kind of a little tense mini game of threading your way through normal mode. Is she actually shit now or were ABA players just getting away with murder before?
>>563318553>were ABA players just getting away with murder before?It's this one
>>563318547What's the lobby come on?
nope, you're not getting any more attention after this post. I won't even waste my breath insulting you given your masochistic personality.
>>563318691Read the thread faggot.
Do you guys play together here often?
>>563318943>*teleports behind you*>*does a hand chop to your neck at lightning speed, stopping just sort of contact*Tch, you got a lot to learn here.. To answer your question, yes, we do lobbies..>*disappears in the shadows*>*like a boss*
>>563318553I play her hard every few weeks and for a while it was very easy to get into the rage mode early on but now with the downsides of getting out of it and the starting charge being lower... yeah she actually has to work for it more. She isn't "shit" since the rage mode is the same but you have to be MORE careful than usual which is a bit annoying but understandable seeing how the whole patch has gone.
>>563318768I have read the thread, I don't see it. I also ctrl+f Lobby, and it didn't pop anything up
>>563318553aba was a real character before installing and double the char after, now she is like intended, half a char before installing and still really good afterwhoever designed soive after season 3 should've been fired
>>563319437>>563319620Kinda what I thought. Seen people screeching over key change not being a plus on block guard crush anymore and I’m just like how the fuck was that even a thing in the first place? If she’s better than bottom tier *before* popping there’s gotta be a design flaw there.
>>563314708Brother ignore the roster size and just fucking look at the characters. They are almost all ugly and/or generic as fuck. And among these failures, you'd have to find not 1, but 3 characters you'd like to play. Fighting games live and die by the roster, it's the single most important factor in a game's success, nobody wants to play as amorphous functions.
>>563315352I watched the first season. Episode 1 had an interesting set-up, then the rest of the episodes until the finale were most mindnumbingly dull shit I've seen to the point I've successfully erased everything that happened in them from my mind. The finale was extremely good, but it's not really worth the slog in my opinion, and I have no interest in seeing the further seasons.
Why is she so mean? :(
>>563318943This ain't no school playground, kid. We don't 'play' hereIn the /ggg/ lobbies we put our honor on the line and fight
https://x.com/i/status/2043002056462446604Venom isUuuhhhGood
>>563320236Cannot begin to understand why every other fighting game is trying to be a tag fighter these days. MvC2 only had the roster for it because it was an asset flip and even then was basically a grass roots fluke that people played DESPITE how jank the game was. Nowadays fighting games are way less popular and profitable than back then and yet these studios keep trying to drop tag fighters with like ten characters because they obviously don’t have the budget for the kind of roster and balancing a game like that needs.
>>563321106>Nowadays fighting games are way less popularThis isn't actually true, but it certainly feels like it. Fighting games are more popular than ever, it's just that other genres have completely eclipsed it.
CH 5H > 214H~6S, 66 2S > 2H > 214H~4S, c.S > 2H, c.S > 2H > 214K or 214H~6S WS, 632146H WB
How's Unika now? I'm a total beginner that stopped in 2022 so I really have no idea about any of the new stuff. I did learn before that Unika was beginner-friendly, but I came back because I always liked Jam. I want to use both.
>set matchmaking to 2 and above>immediately get hit with wi-fi console goldlewisback to 3 only
>>563322152she was over designed for tekken playerseven prop players abandoned her
>>563321275I feel like fighting game development has regressed outside of whoever is in charge of Strive 2.0 who seems to actually get it.Fighting games at their core are basically blitz chess where you can lose turns if you don't react in time to moves.Most fighting games seem to be more focused on designing around the spectacle of "capturing a piece" instead of focusing on developing the gameplay and piece movement itself to help keep each round fresh and exciting.It is very, VERY hard for me to get friends to stick with fighting games for any period of time because at the end of the day you have to get good at a lot of really (relatively) boring shit before you get to any of the good stuff(Just sitting and looking at your opponent, anti air, running looping same 50/50 over and over offense)When the curtain gets pulled back for people and they realize that is the case with fighting games a lot of friends/players just bounce off thinking its repetitive and boring before getting to the good part where both players can sctually play the speed blitz part of the chess and it gets super exciting again.So devs either make the rounds so fast it takes longer for players to realize its repetitive(Strive 1.0/Tekken 8), or they can seriously tackle making risk/reward varied enough that different moves are worth considering even at low level gameplay(Strive 2.0)
>>563322592realized it was ambiguous but meant the anti air, letting an opponent hang themselves just waiting, looping 50/50s against opponents who dont utilize defense or know their risk reward is the boring shit
matchmaking in this game is fucking awful compared to sf6
does dizzy have a lower apm than jack-o my hands hurt
>>563322592Removing the ability to RC out of invincibility and whiffed supers is the smartest decision a fighting game dev has made in the last decade
>>563323215It's usually fine, it's just broken right now.
>>563322592It's funny because arcsys have a reputation for cooking up some of the most nonsensical, demented balance patches in the genre.Then one they they decided to wake up and address virtually every complain people have with the game short of "I don't like strive, make another game"
>>563322560That's Xturd Ram
>>563323310i think i have carpal syndrome finallymy wrist strings so hard with pain FUCK!! i hope my fighting game days are not overi guess i need go get the wristguard from doc fuck my life so hard
>Strive comes out>hmm this time I'll try a character that isn't Axl!>eat shit on Pot and Faust, promptly go back to Axl>drop the game>come back to try DLC chars>eat shit and promptly go back to Axl>drop the game>come back for 2.0>eat shit on Slayer, Lucy, Unika and Dizzy, promptly go back to AxlI DON'T EVEN LIKE PLAYING AXL
>>563324090what kind of controller do you use? every so often Ive gotten bad wrists but taking frequent breaks, wearing wrist braces to sleep, and doing some wrist exercises or even a stress ball help me
what the fuck do you do vs jam in the corner when she has overhead, grab mixup and low all looking like the same firey dog shit
rub a dub a dub
I'm stuck in gold 1 after my placements, can't win a match and it wont' derank me'?
how do you guys hit confirm 2k into 2d? do you look at the life bar?
>>563324091Let the almighty post number decide your fate and learn how to properly play whoever you getif you feel even a tiny bit of "but I wanted to play this character" after rolling, then pick them instead with no hesitation, but fully commit to it
>>563324260I just sit there and look for the overhead.
>>563324417you can't confirm it
>>563323215Wait is it true that there's issue in MM right now? I left years ago and just came back recently and just tried MM to see if I still get good latency. I'm in SEA so I remember getting fast games against JP and other SEA countries. But now it takes minutes to get games even though the population should be currently higher than before I left.
>>563324510Speak for yourself. You can on most characters.
got diamond 1 on my placement matcheshow bad is it?
>>563324752Anything below Vanquisher III Vindex is quite frankly embarassing
>jam just spams orb in neutralfun game
can you actually keep people out with johnny in this game? new player looking for a zoner that actually keeps people away not fish for long ranged CH's for combos.
>>563324872embrace hedonism, if it feels good do it. and spamming puffball every single time you are even slightly out of round start range, feels very very good.
Does anyone know what Giovanna mod this is?
Where to get casual matches in the game? I don't want to use rank right now because I'm new.
>>563325105his zoning is not actually good despite being classified as a zoner, you want to get a knockdown and bully people with card oki as soon as possiblehe really shines when he puts you in the corner
>>563324215i need wrist braces i got wrist stick to do wrist exercises
Is kara sliding Potemkin Buster no longer in?
>>563326060I thought they took it out and then put it back in? I didn't see them taking it out.
>>563324215Can I make a recommendation, friend? I don't know if you go to the gym, but pulling weight, such as deadlifts, can insure you don't put them in any danger and you'll find faster relief than wrist exercises. If you have some weights at home or something that can give you trouble picking up and putting down, you could try this.I recommend that to anybody that has wrist problems. I lived a lot of pain because of poor posture and ergonomics and I kinda don't really want to bear the thought of people dealing with that. Deadlifts, or any exercise where you are picking something up and putting it down, is such a solid and easy remedy.
>>563325206Didn't see exactly that, but there are similar oneshttps://gamebanana.com/search?_sOrder=best_match&_sSearchString=giovanna&_idGameRow=11534
>>563324752Who cares? Just fucking climb up. Placements are a fucking meme and don't represent an observable level of skill. Find consistency in match up wins.>>563324417Just go into the lab and set guard to random and work on it. Its not as easy as CH hit confirming but practicing hit confirming has never changed. You set to random and you practice.
>>563321106FighterZ must have been insanely successful. Plus tag fighters tend to be "simpler" in controls since a character is usually at best three to four buttons instead of six. Yes, I know objectively assists add in a level of complexity that would warrant decision making to be harder than controlling a single character, but that's apparently NOT the observation at play here. Plus a tag character doesn't usually have a huge movelist in comparison to a full character. If you know how to do a fireball backwards and forwards, then you know how to play every character in FighterZ. I assume that simplicity is seen as worth investing in for development time. But this is me trying to believe that publishers care about any of this which I fucking doubt.Frankly I'm surprised at how absolutely rare it is to see KOF style team based games but I'm a lover of the format so I have no idea what its reception is.
>>563293487The goat
Guys my DR has dropped into the 1200s.
>>563326318yeah doing deadlift with empty pogo stick can help too
>>563327601Okay Faust let's take you back to the home
oh no, im starting to transition to Bridget.
That's a pretty good placements result, no?
>>563327906nigga worked his way up from plastic 5
WHY DO I NEVER DOWN RANK WHAT IS THE FUCKING POINT
>>563327723i punch my fist to wall and apply low pressureit soothes the paini go buy bracelet tomorrow
>>563327906Iron armor clad of faith
>>563325345There's open lobbies, I forget what the menu is called.
Why havent you joined the tournament yet?
>>563325345just start with ranked the matchmaking in casual is less strict about matching skill levels so you'll just get stomped
>>563328343Because I'm too fucking WEAK. Is that what you wanted? To humiliate me? Well, congratulations buddy, because you've done it.
Does anyone have an image like this except it describes rev 2 gatlings?
>>563328343i still dont have combos on i'm not gonan come there to spam c.s f.s 5h
Think about how HC and Asuka originally released. What in the world were the devs thinking?
Join the tournament
>>563328865okay i will join now
>>563328864Who implied they were, in fact, thinking?
who's the lady that appears in slayer's victory screen
not playing any more till they fix the mm
Dont mind starting at a low rank but hate how bitchmade rookies are.Nobody rematches even when they win . I’m playing ABA. What is your excuse as Lucy.
the amount of times i accidentally super instead of puffball is absolutely insanewho thought this was ok
>>563328864nothing they've done in the past 3 years has indicated that they were capable of thinking.
>>563329138the matchmaking felt like putting my day 1 in a match vs a guy with 3337 lobby wins
unga feels good to unga bunga on but she's easily the worst visual design in the game
What the hell is this? My game crashed mid match, and this came up
Please add M.O.M mode.
>>563329138>>563329472mm is fucked because a lot of celestial are returning and the game doesnt know where to put them so silver is filled with people that should be in diamond+was watching a newbie friend of mine play and he's in silver and he's going up against people burst baiting and doing 80%+ combos, air juggles and perfect frametraps while he's essentially doing 5S into 5H and just starting to learn that Dust is a good button
>>563328865What's the lobby code?
How come Ariels is still not a playable character?
>>563328865I will now join Ram's tournament
>>563328770go to the character's framedata page on dustloop and there's a gatling tablethe "universal" gatling route is just P>K>S>H>D
EU Hoster here. I didn't know the game would kick me out from inactivity, I'm sorry if anyone had their set interreupted because of this, I had shit to take care of but I figured the game wouldn't kick me in the balls if I wasn't babysitting itAgain, sorry about that.
I fucking hate the input buffer in Strive so much sometimes
>>563328864The only problem with Asuka on release was Wild Assault hard knockdown benefited him too much, the character himself was balanced fine and continued to be balanced fine in patches that came after. He was strong but with real weaknesses.
>>563330324haha
>>563329094His wife, Sharon.
>>563330536I just responsnibilities calling to me man, I figured it'd work out....
>>563327881She's fun. And Id on't even play her just cause she's trans. I play her cause I find her very fun to play.
>>563330528Asuka is one of the most insane single player block in the corner for 10+ seconds characters ever made.
>>563330528The problem was that the faggot never ran out of mana and could keep you in a real unchallengable blockstring for 20 minutes with minimal counterplay off any touch in neutral. The only way he ever lost his shield was by fucking up spectacularly.Complete feast or famine character who was HC tier when he was feasting.
What is the ram lobby code? He won't provide it for some reason.
Jesus fuck Nago's new move is legit fullscreen
>so many people were saying HC is dead>no actually hes still one of the best characters in the gameWhat happened?
>>563331275You have to actually play him like with rest of the cast
>>563331275turn out if you chop off a top 1 character's arm he's still 4/5ths of a top 1 character
>>563300663Get a razer raion instead
>>563326153True, I think I kinda figured out how to do it, but very inconsistently
>>563331735Isn't that thing no longer being built and supported? How long until they release a brand new and updated version?
>>563331735yeah its expensive but does it really endure fighting games
Chipp nerfs>5P from 4F to 5F. This hurts him a lot in many MU.>Positive bonus nerfs hurt him worse than a lot of characters since he utilized it so well. It was a huge part of his game.>P alpha no longer crosses up, so no 50/50 PRC c.S and it's worse at baiting DPs.>Tightrope doesn't last as long and has way more recovery.>No meaty after DP anymore. Huge nerf.>Combos are way worse now that his core combo structure has changed.>No backdash BRC. Legit one of the best users of it.>No WA means I can't convert a f.S from max range>Can no longer do 2S into 2H on whiff. Huge nerf since you can’t catch back dashes with it anymore after attempting to frametrap with 2S.
>>563331275The same thing that happens every time they nerf a character people overreacted like babies Even when they take away the infinite block string bug he's still probably good
sol or sin chat
>>563332014So why are people saying hes top tier in 2.0?
>>563328864I feel like people always conveniently forget that Arcsys is the same dev that made +R Testament and Zappa and Xrd Johnny and Elphelt. This is just a thing that happens in guilty gear.
>reach diamond 3>>only 95 points per win
transgenders all use leverless cause stick remind em of they dick...
>>563332272Case in point >>563332014
>>563331275He has a way to make himself variably plus with his new portal by going 5H2H8H or 5H8H2H during steady aim depending on how fast you are able to get the 2nd and 3rd shots out to the point that you can use 3 bullets then concentrate then use 3 more steady aim bullets, reload and continue pressure with steady aim until the opponent either bursts or gets hit by one of the shots. It is very easy to fuck up with the directional shots though so he actually does require skill now which is why I have dropped from plat 1 to gold.
What's the use case for Johnny's 6k outside of combos and generic frame from lights?People swear up and down it's great but I eat shit whenever I try to use it in neutral.
>>563332609What the fuck is leverless?
>>563332926look between your legs
>>563332985I do have a dick, but it barely works anymore.
Bedman is just a fucking badly designed character holy shit, every time they're on screen its mentally exhausting, just the same fucking pressure sequences again and again, and when you actually do manage to get in his fat fuck body messes with OTG setups? what the fuck man
>>563332506Xrd Venom always felt way more egregious to me than Elphelt to be frank. Though obviously both were bullshit. But if we really want to talk about retarded Xrd characters, release Sin and Ram were the real war criminals.
Holy fuck what happened to Anji's routes, he does less combo potential than a release Jive character
>>563328865you can't do that
>>563300663One of many reasons I gave up shopping and trying different controllers, just too wildly inconsistent even with the same models. I can't imagine how much pro players must burn through with those
>>563333201install the mod that removes delilah and be thankful no one plays that trashcan
>>563329997guessing your save file got corrupted happens in all ArcSys fighters it was particularly devastating in Granblue
Jam's 2H is so bullshit
>>563312990This post made so many trannies angry
>>563332829Massively forward-moving, huge hitbox move with great reward? I mean what the fuck do you mean, what's the use case?
>>563333479>removing imoutoSoulless
>>563333638>If you get upset at lies, you are a trannyIsn't it the other way around though, trannies get angry at the truth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1v8nx00mzki prob need to buy this
>>563333220>>563332506Wasn't Raven also really good before they nerfed him?
>>563334138Yeah, everyone hated him
finna 'hunch
https://www.twitch.tv/paragonfgc some shit happening
>jam super hits me raw half screen >no rematchAt least give me the chance to block these fucking gorillas
>>563333294His metered combo routing revolves heavily around FRC into 2H now. Also should note that you can hit 2k > fuujin after charged nagiha meterless
>>563334879Does this shit work without the kara kou, I hate those
jam's super animation is too long
>>563334851You'll have to hunt them down in your replays
>>563334113get yourself a sanjuks v7 levernothing feels so comfy
>>563332829ensenga special cancel to beat throws and mashing? Does backwards mist finer dash S to beat 6P still work. I think you can kara cancel ensenga after it for crossup now
>>563334758>open stream>tranny starts talking
