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>Falcom Games
https://pastebin.com/DsiJppXk
>Pastebin (aka music)
https://pastebin.com/G2mswYCt
>Extra Stuff (guides, downloads, undub patches)
https://pastebin.com/n2G4xL5s
>Games, mods, saves, pre-patched translations
https://nyaa.si/user/Ganba
https://nyaa.si/view/1749605
https://nyaa.si/view/1749617
>Translation patches for Hajimari, Oath in Felghana, Kuro 1 and Kuro 2
https://pastebin.com/g7PfH0bL

>Kai MTL patch
https://files.catbox.moe/ygv0l2.7z

UPDATED: 03/11
https://www.gematsu.com/2026/03/falcom-to-announce-final-trails-game-during-50th-anniversary
>Falcom plans to announce the final entry in the Trails series during the company’s 50th anniversary (2031) and complete it during its 51st year (2032).
>Kyoto Xanadu trailer
https://youtu.be/CelHI1lRCYQ?si=RV2dwP6A3CL5I98p
>Trails in the Sky 2nd Chapter Gameplay Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09CpH5vaZKM
>Trails in the Sky 2nd Chapter is confirmed 2026.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/4225980/Trails_in_the_Sky_2nd_Chapter/
>New footage for 2nd Chapter
https://youtu.be/TbzLprvv0bc?si=h2Ge5aMKRjzNW-SF
>Falcom's Shareholders Meetings 2025 Q&A thread
https://x.com/michsuzu/status/2001538421702168955#m
>Edia to port PC-Engine Ys, Dragon Slayer and The Legend of Xanadu games to modern platforms
https://www.gematsu.com/2025/09/edia-to-port-pc-engine-ys-dragon-slayer-the-legend-of-heroes-and-the-legend-of-xanadu-games-to-modern-platforms
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lil' ronnie...
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>>563284315
Millium as Jusis's intelligent weapon
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anies would have been better as a yandere
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trails of subhumans
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Wazy is one of us.
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I can understand american \ joke translations but holy crap a kid like KeA in my country would have everything since elementary school for free, not a single cent asked to her family. Imagine having college debts when you are a genius lol.
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>>563292720
What happened to 58?
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>>563295140
Shizuna has difficulties with learning.
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Kai 2 will be Their Game and there's nothing you can do about it.
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>>563294973
Crossbell is the most jewish ""state"" in western Zemuria, they don't even have a public school so kids need to attend Jenis or Thors far out of the country.
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>>563294973
You need to put your kid in a good private school.
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>>563295312
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nadia rizz
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Gooning to Sara's buttcrack
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Anons, What happened? Did they fire Falcom's pantsu fetish staff members?
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>>563299643
Probably. Considering how much woke calvard arc is thinking of having panties now it's out of the question.
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>>563299841
The panties were the only good thing about Kai. If the got rid of them in Kai 2 I have nothing left.
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>>563295316
KeA was into an intermediate school which was doing equations which is a middle school curriculum. So we can easily think the church covers till high school, after that you go private or you get a job, just like it should be irl. For the state schoolarship is enough.
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>>563299941
I think probably kai happened during a fortunate window, that's all. There is a lot of fanservice in kai2 and the newest one but it's all safe horny.
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>>563299643
KX and Calvard still have them, so it's just the Sky games that are like this.
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>>563300298
The last Calvard game gave every girl bunny outfits! The current Sky game censors the girls... I suppose boy butt anon would have been proud...
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>>563302315
She must have infiltrated Falcom...
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>>563299643
Only for Estelle you can still see Kloe panties
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>>563300298
tbf we have no idea if Calvard wont get censorslop in the next game. I wouldnt put it past them seeing the switch up from Kai to Sky remake.
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>>563299643
This has ruined Estelle's character.
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Says a lot about this piece of shit general that the only reaction to new footage is "oh noes we can't has anime panties"
No one so much as mentioned the genuinely cool and high quality animations for the Crafts
You all should be killed desu
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>>563303173
No reason to assume they will. They'll have three games worth of skimpy outfits that they have to reuse and put into the Garten.
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>>563303671
No fucking shit man, falcom games look great now and have good animation. Cool. We knew this 2 years ago.
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>>563303839
Don't reply to my posts if you're gonna be stupid, thanks
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>>563303671
The animations look like they're from a gacha game. It's a poor fit for Falcom.
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Playing the sky remake, zin talks about their being 4 S-Rank bracers at the time but now that i think about it, do we know who they are besides cassius at this point? I'm not counting Zin from daybreak.
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>>563303984
You're an unwelcome faggot, go to reddit or Twitter if you want to see people glaze craft animations and visuals. We actually care about the soul of Kiseki here.
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>>563304098
I've never played a gacha so I've no idea what their stuff looks like but Olivier's mid-air bullet catch is sick
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>>563299643
it's crazy that they modeled panties for Anelace which you can see in her crafts but Estelle gets this stuffy looking diaper that doesn't fit this outfit, at all. Why not just tweak the skirt so it stays glued to her ass if you don't wanna sexualize her. Stupid and Lazy. Falcom stinky.

on the other hand the Anelace MC theory is gaining traction.
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>>563304191
Funny considering you're the one with a Twitter account and your post from 10 minutes ago there is you publicly showcasing you use Reddit
You're genuinely the most pathetic person alive, Mondblut
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>>563304098
Well unlike you I don't play gacha slop
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>>563304178
Haha... sorry I forgor..
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ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh, Crois Bell. I get it now.

Very clever, Falcom-sama...
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>>563304178
Anton
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>>563304924
kinda crazy we had all these games and still in the dark mostly kek
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>>563303671
I can throw shit around and applaud the great animation of the shit parabola. But it's still (censored) shit. Also: femoid, go back to your cats, the only living beings who love you.
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>>563304725
If you think I'm Mondblut you're more of a tourist than I thought kek. Mondblut would be having a 4 sentence minimum melty about JC panties, Jolda and post a picture of Altina from CS4 in her bikini.
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>>563303671
Falcoom died a long time ago, they deserve all the brainless gooners they get
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>>563305031
>>563305032
Don't reply to my posts if you're autistic, thanks
>>563305070
Yeah I suppose I agree, they made the coomskulls feel welcomed for far too long
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does /vrpg/ have good moderation?
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>>563304178
Gray's father is the head bracer. Something Arnold.
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>>563305315
Good girl, no rebuttal.
Now fuck off back to twitter, tranny.
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>>563305032
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>>563305484
Not interested in your gay fantasies, weirdo
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>>563304939
Man that dress was so fucking hot. Too bad we don't see it in cs.
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>>563305032
>Mondblut would be having a 4 sentence minimum melty about JC panties, Jolda and post a picture of Altina from CS4 in her bikini.
That sounds really based, why do people hate this guy?
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>>563303671
Nobody cares about Sky 2nd and it's dogshit animations that you'll end up skipping everytime
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>>563305032
>Jolda
She's our last line of defense, anon. If Jolda pantsu fall it's over. Show some respect, the JC loli will be the Canary in the Coalmine for Falcom's future. Will she flash us her beautiful black pantsu or will she deny us that delicious glimpse?
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>>563303671
we should have anime panties but alas

the world is not good
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>>563306821
Yup, there's Mondy.
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why don't women look and act like this?
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>>563306468
What do you think about this character?
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>>563306821
I wouldn't be surprised if they make her skirt longer or give her spats in Kai 2, I have no expectations when they've shown they follow western tranny standards in Sky remake.
Tita didn't get panties in a single one of her costumes.
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why don't men look and act like this?
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>>563307090
Pretty.
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>>563307039
They do.
But you are not invited.
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>>563307498
calm down Epstein Jr
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>>563307039
That level of perfection is exclusive.
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>>563307090
Not awful but not great either
Pretty useful in gameplay though
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Epstein foundation's future recruits...
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>>563307286
While you were playing trails for the first time with sky 15 years ago did you cry like a little bitch cause you could not see Tita half-naked?
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>>563307980
Feri is so hot.... i would give everything for a tomboy middle eastern hebe wife.
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>>563307983
I didn't get into Kiseki until 2021 anon. Unlike some people I can still admit the remake is a great game but I will never support censorshit. I made sure to mod Tita naked in spite of them making her so sexy just to censor her outfits.
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>>563308394
>I didn't get into Kiseki until 2021 anon
Shocking
>>563305070
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both cute, both canon
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>>563307983
We had the Agate x Tita to make up for it.
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>>563308749
I really expected to like Rixia and she has big, bouncy tits, but she's such a boring notherburger.
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>>563308532
Just take it as a free dopamine hit
It's nice to be reminded some people are extremely pathetic
It's a nice safety net knowing we will never lead a life as sad as Mondblight's
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Anons get this mad over gooners kek
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Is jingo ashleigh and sigmund's daughter? I mean, ashleigh is in the business, probably another hot mom, jingo has red hairs (not a common trait in zemuria) and an attitude, shirley is uncommonly calm around her...
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>>563309258
I'm not gay so I don't find it endearing to read post after post about how a guy is horny for a Trails character, daily, multiple times per hour
If you like reading that shit, good for you but it's not normal
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>>563307336
Reanafemanon...
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>>563310454
You can just ignore it yk, if you wanna start up conversation go ahead, gooners keep this dying general alive.
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>>563307336
I would but

im not old enough for my hair to be grey/white completely and I dont have a gf to dote on let alone a kid
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>>563310945
Take your own advice and ignore posts mocking coomskulls if they annoy you then
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>>563311337
I didn't once say they annoyed me or even bothered me, I just pointed out how much you bitch about it and let it affect you lul
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>>563311454
You sound very upset
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Reading comprehension of a turd.
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>>563299643
Gungho is demanding this for the "global audience" since Sky games are global releases.
Kyoto Xanadu isn't a global release and it's already back to otaku pandering.
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The consequences of 2016 are still felt to this day, pro-censorship tourists infiltrated right alongside the rest of the tourists and have subtly been trying to sneak in their christian soccer mom, suburban conservative "moralistic" agenda everywhere they can. Do not let them tell you Estelle is not censored.
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>>563313065
I don't think Gungho have so much say in this. It's just Falcom thinking westoids would feel offended.
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>>563314058
It's not censorship if the author himself changes it with no outsider pressure to do so. You misuse an alarmist term because your stance crumbles without it. And you are aware of it which is why you'll continue to stretch the definition and misuse it. No one will ever take you seriously when you need to rely on dishonest behaviour like that.
Falcom didn't want their flagship remake to appeal to base animals like you coomskulls, and they adjusted their character designs accordingly. That is not censorship. That is artistic vision and maturity. You are not wanted.
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Five (5) (V) (Go) (五) (ご) cute facts about Towacutest!:

1. She is canonically atowable!
2. She is mai Kiseki-fu!!
3. I love her!!!
4. Towacutest!!!!
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All this vitriol for what is essentially a pair of panties that's most likely being held behind a preorder bonus.
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>>563316848
5. Her butt can fart real loud!!!!!
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>>563304549
It's probably unironically because Anelace is canonically 18 in FC and Estelle isn't.
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>>563316253
>no outsider pressure to do so
"You can't release on those two major platforms if you don't sign the dei contract".
No of course, no pressure.
Don't know if you are a shill or a fucking idiot.
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>>563316184
New arc status?
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>>563317006
YOUR butt can fart real loud!!!!!
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>>563317064
Your deluded delusions aren't real. If you think that truly happened, prove it.
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>>563317064
But why could they release KX with panties if they were forced to take them out of Sky?
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>>563316184
Gaolang's future wife btw
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Do you guys wonder if you'll outgrow this series? I'm not as interested anymore
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>>563317267
Yeah i can't prove how a shitton of jrpg got censored, japanese devs refused to release in the west for that in the last 15 years, even kiseki itself got shitty trannyslation and censorship even in cs.
Cmon man, it's not even funny. Why do you think you can't peek under the skirts anymore? You are a fucking idiot.
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>>563317721
ye, I'm getting old now so I'll drop video games as a hobby after I play through the grand finale of Trails
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>>563316848
post more
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>>563316253
Oh look, it's the same retard anon that appears everytime the censorship is brought up and attempts to make himself sound smart by ignoring the obvious implications of what's causing the censorship. Maybe you just ragebait Idk, I hope you're not unironically this stupid.
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>>563318240
>>563318380
>Yeah i can't prove how a shitton of jrpg got censored
Thanks for the honesty. You can't prove it.
Not interested in your delusions and your insults borne out of your personal bitterness and frustration.
Feel free to disengage now as you've admitted you make things up you cannot prove.
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>>563318565
Prove you weren't on epstein Island.
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>>563318565
No i don't care. I play with the real translations, you play with nisa fanfic perfeclty knowing you are reading censored fake slop. I experience the real game, you experience nothing.
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>>563318725
Prove you didn't give me a blowjob 10 minutes ago while I was playing Ys X.
>>563318861
Not interested in your strange pivot to the MTL patch topic, but enjoy your robotic AI script.
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>>563319129
>enjoy your robotic AI script
Always better than censored fake sloppa.
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>>563319275
If you truly were content with your choice to use the MTL patch you wouldn't feel the need to constantly bring it up seeking validation for it.
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>>563319467
I like being in the right, i like to shit over retards like you that consider censorship good. You were never a fan, you are a cancer that is destroying my franchises and my hobby. It's not validation, is spite, you should be spit on wherever you go.
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>>563316848
Angelica is so lucky...
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uh yeah I think I need a towa wife
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>>563295316
I'd rather not have a school than a school like Aramis that just teaches you whites are bad
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fuck, marry, rape, kill
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>>563321872
marry, kill, kill, kill
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>>563321872
Marry, rape and cum inside, kill, fuck and cum inside.
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>>563321872
Gooning to their buttcracks
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Am i the only one that finds campanella incredibly sexy? I would fuck him \ let him fuck him without a tought.
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>>563322930
her
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>>563323523
Her, him, whatever. I am ok for both.
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>>563319659
Tell us how you really feel.
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>>563321872
fuck noel, marry elie, rape tio, kill rixia
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>>563325434
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grendel zolga was a more hype last boss than shaddai
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>>563326081
no
kincaid’s quotes are too hard
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>>563326081
3 games in I still have the same question. What the fuck are the grendels?
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>>563326458
the shackles... the sharts ...the vagrant system ...the demon lords

don't you fucking get it ?!?!
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>>563325712
What is your point? That is the meaning of self censorship. Not external institutions do it but the creator or company oneself. But it is still censorship.
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>>563326458
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>>563326687
Are you gonna post a single sliver of evidence to prove Falcom is censoring themselves rather than choosing to willingly exercise their artistic freedom to not appeal to deviants that want to see the panties of children?
Don't bother replying if you're not gonna post actual factual proof, I am not interested in your emotions.
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>>563326081
the only thing that was cooler was when it kept sending you to different places to fight different bosses from before. stage 3 of shaddai was a bit disappointing in that regard
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>>563326573
Could've been great if Daybreak 2 gave a general gist of the grendels instead of being filled with forgettable filler bullshit. Man I wonder the rest of the Calvard arc would be if Daybreak 2 is not dogshit.
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>>563327515
act 1 of kai would probably have been a lot more interesting if kuro 2 hadn't shit the bed
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>>563327001
>to not appeal to deviants that want to see the panties of children?
I mean I wouldn't phrase it that way, but you pointed the reason for censorship out yourself. To not cause westoid shitstorms by subhuman tourist faggots like you who can't differentiate between fictional characters and real people.
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>>563326458
An idea they forgot to implement because they had to do a renne + reverie idiots game. Because it was needed a fanservice game as the second chapter of a new arc.
I think the idea is the armor activates to eat your flow of power so you can contain it and avoid transforming or whatever the fuck.
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>>563327858
That's not censorship; that's not wanting people like you in the Falcom fandom.
Like I said, you have to misuse the word because that's all you have. I have dismantled you and made you overly emotional. It's over.
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>>563328147
They should've delayed Swin & Nadia's appearance to the third game alongside Rufus and Lapis. Them being in the second game is too early and they end up eating screentime and character developments that could've gone to the new cast of the arc. Also the Garden Master or whoever the fuck that dude is like a fucking Naruto filler villain bullshit holy shit he was so bad.
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>>563328898
he had potential. when he pulled this move it was a true "oh fug" moment, it just didn't go anywhere
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>>563329265
Nobody gave a single shit about this stuff. It's not van or the new arc releated, is a filler of a filler cast.
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>>563326458
They're made up of shards, which are made up of ghosts.
That's why Grendel Zolga was Dingo, who was dead.
Van isn't a Kamen Rider; he's edgy Danny Phantom.
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>>563329709
>Van isn't a Kamen Rider; he's edgy Danny Phantom.
That legittimately made me chuckle. But it's dumb. It should have been kamen rider after the mecha.
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>>563330357
Calvard could have done with more of ASO getting toku transformations. It's imbalanced with just Van and Judith. Aaron at the very least could have gotten something, maybe it'd actually have made him more of a character beyond the first game.
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lmaoing my ass off
i won
/fg/ lost (again)
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same people that moaned too many C7 members had special powers BTW
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All of Original Class VII should've gotten mechs by the end, too.
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THEY are mocking us again...
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>>563331443
glopped...
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>>563331443
Who is "THEY" nibba??
Did you mean (((them)))???
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>>563330990
wrong
aaron was not in control when he was Taikun
we just did mechas
xenoblade and trails kinda mirror each other in how many themes they share like some higher energy (wave existence/UDO - and orbal energy, mechas, the eternal recourrence and
an object/weapon/artifact thought to be of entirely different origins to modern tech
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>>563321872
fuck tio
marry tio
lick tio
smooch tio
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>>563330990
I am fucking pissed i love transformations like kamen or magical girls this looked cool as fuck and then, nothingburger. At least they "improved" the mechas after cs2 and they were plot relevant, this one looks like a stupid one trick pony.
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>>563332251
me on the right
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>>563331431
just Fie and Laura inheriting Zector and Argreion would have been cool
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I think laura should fuck fie
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>>563331431
Nah better you player decide who gets the mecha (max 3), with custom interactions attack and moves and the others are tied in support for combo crafts or whatever.
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>>563332710
Reanafemanon...
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honestly yeah fucking the shit out of a hoe while talking about kiseki sounds good
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>>563333173
C... IS THE LETTER BETWEEN D AND B!
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>>563333853
its crazy that falcom was already thinking that far ahead in cold steel 1 with C.

i heard dingo was already active in the background during that time
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>>563333853
I mean it worked
No one would have thought he was C back in Kuro 1
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>>563332710
i think i should fuck fie
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>>563334259
>big fie
you can have her
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What did Falcom mean by this?
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>>563334259
gladly
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>>563331443
It's true though, the "romance" in Sky is laughable teenage foid novel trash
>>563332710
But that's ghey
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>>563334557
i'll make her bigger
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>>563334745
u-umm..!
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>>563334745
disgusting...
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>>563328351
Try harder at gaslighting, retard. Any sane person knows censorship when he sees it.
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>>563334186
Dingo told Aidios how to make the sept-terrions
Dingo introduced Aidios to Ragnar, Zeit and Argres.
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>>563336235
You could just stop engaging if you're not gonna post any actual factual proof. I don't care about your vibes and emotions.
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>>563334745
Takuu, go back to Twitter and practice anatomy a bit so you can make money from smut commissions in a year or two.
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>>563338232
i'm not him
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i'm chiharu, reply to this post and i will draw your wife next
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>>563338908
Draw Kairi
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>>563338908
Shirley azure
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Calvard is woke garbage
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wrong
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Which arc should I start with as a new player? I'm trans, by the way. Hope that helps.
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Calvard is actually just garbage, it doesnt need a qualifier

gomen calvard-anon... it's true...
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>>563341006
Tales of Zestiria
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>>563341006
trails of xillia
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>Calvard is woke garbage
correct
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>>563341040
This, but about Sky
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>>563341040
Woke is hard to not be garbage, because the political statement must never allow for the plot to be nuanced at all. That's why Heiyue got whitewashed as protectors of easterners from the evil racists, because white bad nonwhite good.
That's why the bad guy in like half the quest is the exact same character model of a white guy with a moustache, why the white supremacist, why the comments about another white guy conning a poor immgirant became a thing.
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>>563341732
What skin color did the Capuas have?
What skin color did Dalmore and Gilbert have?
What skin color did Richard have?
What skin color did Weissmann have?
What skin color did Joachim have?
What skin color did Dieter have?
What skin color did Osborne have?
Do you need me to keep going?
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>>563342090
There's a difference between the bad guys being white in countries that are stated to be white and all the bad guys being white when there are minority-majority, minority-run cities like in Calvard.
Also Heiyue were bad guys until Calvard whitewashed them with "muh protectors from the real evil: white people".
>omg the bad guys are white in countries where practically everyone is white
Then you have CS2 where there are two "middle easterners" lol
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>>563342736
middle easterner bad guys*
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>the only noble with nord blood worked for Duke Cayenne
ohnononononono wokesisters our narrative? Is CS really the chud arc?
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>>563342736
The difference is your computer can't run the Calvard games so you dismiss them with insane /pol/ talking points that don't even reflect the actual games
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>>563343146
And yet when asked which part is wrong you can never answer.
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>>563344550
What's her skin color?
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>>563344948
>L-Look! The one brown woman! This totally means a lot!
>(She also works for a group funded by white supremacists)
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>>563344948
Her backstory now has been literally confirmed to "I'm bad because white people made me" now we know Valis isn't all brown like Elsaim (the country that never hurts anyoe because hurting people is what white people do according to the woke arc)
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>>563341732
>because white bad nonwhite good
>>563342736
>all the bad guys being white
>>563344993
>brown woman
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>>563342736
>Heiyue were bad guys
Meh not really. They were the kiseki equivalent to a triad, it's not "evil" per se it's just mafia business. But considering how triads work irl is not that insane to think they "protect their own people" inside calvard just like it would happen in places like japan or hong kong.
I consider calvard woke as fuck but i wouldnt pass heiyue under the problem.
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>>563345296
Yeah, 1 non-white bad guy lackey in 3 games where the entire point is THE SETTING IS LE DIVERSE doesn't cut it bruh adn then her backstory is "i'm bad cause wypipo bad"
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>>563345559
Every single white mafia in the setting is evil incarnate
Curiously what parts of it do youy see then
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>>563345559
I am more mad they did the osborne treatment to cao turning him from an accurate planner and a shrewd fucker to a lapdog to a woman, because every woman is strong in calvard.
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>>563345562
What's her skin color?
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>>563345691
What the fuck are you even talking about? I was talking about heiyue acting in calvard.
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>>563345876
>>563344948
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>>563309980
Good schizo theory, I hope we get at least one scene of Shirley, Celis and Jingo together
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>>563346237
Not that i have proof heh, even arundel has red hair and i know how color coding works in asian media. But it's just something i nooticed. I can also say jingo hairs and shirley cs hairs are a bit similar but those games have 12 models total so it can be nothing.
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>>563345876
She's gonna survive Kai 2 and get together with the new protagonist for the Calvard bridge game, calling it.
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>>563345745
Yeah i tought cao's bossman would have been that little shit in azure that tries to get between elie's legs.
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>>563345892
> But considering how triads work irl is not that insane to think they "protect their own people" inside calvard
You can say that about mafias too, look at the Italian Mafia. But every white mafia in Trails, including Calvard, is pure irredeemable evil
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>>563300101
>Kai2
??
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>>563347963
Uh my bad i was thinking about kuro.
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>>563347667
Rossi was redeemed
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>>563348114
He should have been playable in Reverie, his S-Craft is too cool.
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>>563348114
Rossi was one guy from Revache, Revache was evil and destroyed
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>>563348114
Unironically? I wish he joined the sss, maybe as a guest for a bit or like guarding kea in the downtimes. Him and lloyd escaping prison was cool af i wanted more.
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And yes Garcia Rossi is based af
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the biggest HEiyue howler honestly might be in Reverie though.
They literally just helped commit a coup d'etat and Crossbell just lets them continue to operate and they get a shot smiling
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>>563305934
you lost, hope you aren't reansis because i would refuse to talk about any of the good fanfics with someone this retarded and unwelcome.
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>>563304549
beyond the fact that it doesnt fit the outfit it straight up doesnt fit the dialogue. Estelle doesn't select that outfit. both schera and anal ace select it for her specifically to give her extra sex appeal. it's meant to neuron activate joshua.
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>>563307090
i feel like i should have her in my party but i also feel like I've played so many archers already that adding her to it is too much of a retread haha.
>>563307983
>>563308756
>she skipped the tita bath scene
>She skipped the tita bath scene in the anime too.
do we tell her?
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>>563314296
if by westoids you mean CCC jews
>>563316253
wrong
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>>563350565
Man i miss lego quartz. Fuck off "put the quartz and you have the spell" and all the bullshit on calvard. Azure was peak orbment and the right dose of tech in the system. They sucked the soul from the magic part since then.
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Imagine having a very tall Eternian wife
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wrong
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Love my beautiful, cute, loving, supportive, caring, and adorable wife
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>>563354780
Can't wait to see this but milium.
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Chat, is this real?
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>>563354932
They ruined Millium
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>>563356883
>They upgraded Millium.
Ftfy
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>>563355807
My precious wife, all grown up. I love her.
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>>563356883
how do we stop Falcoom from ruining Altina in future installments?
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Love my beautiful, cute, loving, supportive, caring, and adorable wife
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kek
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>>563358521
We just pray falcum doesn't become any more retarded than they are now
>>563359103
CS Kea is a sex icon
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decide for me
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>>563360078
Olvier and Kloe. But I think you can change members along the dungeon. Can't remember. The only one that really matters is the last battles.
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I'd like to fuck Musse's ass
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>>563360078
Optimal party is Olivier and Agate.
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>>563337716
Anon, it is you who is acting on "vibes and emotions" while trying to gaslight people censorship isn't real.
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>>563358521
But they already did.
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>>563360059
>We just pray falcum doesn't become any more retarded than they are now
Best hope is probably her just not appearing after Calvard unfortunately.
>>563362420
You're the only one who thinks this, Mondblut.
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>>563362847
>her just not appearing after Calvard
I'm only ok with this if
>rean also never appears
>rean/altina are confirmed married or dating
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I just realized I technically do not have a screenshot of a girl introduced in the Crossbell arc blushing.
Close enough.
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>>563355807
She needs to show up in Kai with a button up uniform that makes audible stretch noises as the buttons barely contain her millium milk and a part where Jusis trips into them and suffocates. Altina breast envy too.
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>>563360078
Kloe and tita where my picks in fc. Thought it made sense that the youngest characters should be the ones to oppose Richard since his entire goal, to defend liberal, is disaffecting them the most.
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The slow death of /fg/ is so wholesome. Love to see it.
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Sky 1st le bad
Sky 2nd le bad
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>>563370726
>Uhhh it's a slow death that's why I occasionally stop the llm spam so I can fap to how slow your gay thread is that I will never leave.
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>>563377335
/fg/ bullied me in the past and now you're going to die. I hope you're happy that you're getting what you deserve.
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>>563377335
You called my Youtube channel irrelevant and dead, and now /fg/ is irrelevant and dead while I'm getting more popular.
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>>563377335
Uh oh, melty.
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>>563377335
/fg/ has pushed away everyone, and now we're all here to laugh at you dying.
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>>563377335
You said we would never get a general, but your general is dying. See you on /vrpg/, the only place that'll accept you after the general dies.
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>>563377335
>act like an extremely hostile psychopath and lash out against everyone at all times
>people leave and don't come back
>UHHHHH WHERE DID U GO ANONS
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>>563350756
that too, now we gotta wonder how the under the table scene will play out
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>>563383939
thats what they want and what all of this endless shitposting and arcwarring is about
they want to destroy the general and make it unusable until people just get fed up and leave because they think that just because they hate kiseki/falcom now it means everyone else has to
and they won this place is deader than its ever been
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>>563385381
It's as busy as it is during a Ys year. The problem is that Falcom is dragging their heels continuing Kiseki.
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>>563385697
>The problem is that Falcom is dragging their heels continuing Kiseki.
Anon we literally just got Horizon and Sky 2nd is in September. Falcom is releasing a new game every six months which is crazy.
How on Earth are they "dragging their heels" just because they want to polish Horizon 2 so it's not another rushed Daybreak 2?
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>>563385880
>Anon we literally just got Horizon
Horizon came out almost two years ago.
>Sky 2nd is in September.
And? Who cares about a remake? That isn't continuing Kiseki. We've all already either played Sky or know everything that happens in it. Sky remakes only appeal to people who have never played Kiseki before, not the pre-existing fans.
Falcom used to release a new Kiseki game nearly every year, and there's going to be a three year gap between the last new Kiseki game and it's sequel. They're dragging their feet.
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the sad thing is we're gonna wait 3 years for horizons sequel only for it to be yet another db1 asset flip where you spend half the game in edith
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>>563358521
how do i stop my tongue from lusting for altina's tummy and dfc?
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We need more shizuna
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Let me share a story with you:
>be me
>be 20 years ago
>try DQVIII
>find it boring and drop it after 2 hours
>FFW to 5 years ago
>decide to give DQXI a chance
>find it boring and drop it after 2 hours
>move on
>never entered a single DQ thread on /v/
>never spent my time on any DQ general
With this story in mind, why do you engage with Trails if you no longer like it?
A grown adult should value his own limited time in this world and not dedicate it to things he doesn't like and that only provoke negative feelings
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>>563389964
>mods
yikes, what a loser
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>>563389964
zamn
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>>563389995
You're just jealous that the Kiseki girls don't give you a show.
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>>563341507
No, Calvard is woke done right. Pretty much only Falcom can write a woke game in such a way that even right wingers will play it.
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>>563341507
If Calvard is woke, how come every girl can be dressed up in slutty revealing outfits?
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>>563355807
MILLION HAS BEEN CENSORED AAAAAH
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>>563390521
Safe horny. If you still didn't get how this work, you are beyond salvation.
Bunnysuits were popular irl when in the past when there was the most censorship and control by the government. It's an exhaust valve made to get people like you distracted.
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>>563393342
Bunny suits aren't safe horny. Only weak shit like spats are. Don't try and drag Calvard down to the Sky remake's level.
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>>563393663
I don't even want to play sky remake, i will play the originals till the end of time.
Anyways, yeah bunny suits are safe horny. Check how many bunnysuits you have and how much pantyshots you can take. That's the definition of safe horny.
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>>563355807
Even worse than hag Kai Altina.
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>>563393791
Bunnysuits aren't designed to censor the butt and panties like spats are and so it doesn't mean that they're safe horny. Safe horny is the action of trying to counteract basic horny things like bunny suits, or panties, or swimsuits to reduce their horniness.
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>>563394025
>Safe horny is the action of trying to counteract basic horny things like bunny suits, or
No.
Safe horny by definition is "where character designs of female characters in games have their sexuality toned down to not trigger gaming journalists" you can of course change gaming journos to movie or series or whatever.
You are applying a standard of "sexually" which was created in the 20s when you couldnt have women wear bikinis in shores.
You are fooled by the bunnysuits and you have lost everything else. Nobody gets offended by bunnysuits because its not a thing we consider "sexual" anymore. You can like them, of course, i like those too, but those are part of the censorship, it's a decoy thinking you "own the libtards" or whatever and meanwhile you are eating an anti white woke censored game.
Considering how much people like you point to the bunnysuits and ignore the trannyslation, the complete retcon of calvard, three games of "white bad, migrants good", litterally every plot point of the game belongs to a woman and more, i would say the scheme was perfectly executed. You were played like a damn fiddle.
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>>563394501
>Nobody gets offended by bunnysuits because its not a thing we consider "sexual" anymore
Of course they are. I see what you're doing here. You're trying to change the definition of safe horny to include actual horny things to make people accept your safe horny slop. No, bunny suits are not safe horny. They're just horny. I reject your psyop.
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Only on /fg/ will you see someone claiming bunnysuits aren't seen as sexual and one of the most lewd dlc Falcom has ever released is "safe horny"
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>>563394926
>trying to change the definition of safe horny
That's the real definition of the term. Look it anywhere, you simply used terms which you didn't know the means.
>>563394952
Yes, it's the exact definition of safe horny. And the fact you keep defending it it's the proof their plan was successful and you are a mindless drone. But keep lying to yourself, i don't care. You were never a fan, and never will be.
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>>563394501
>>563394926
I think they feel safe horny, but also a classsic JRPG trope since fucking Dragon Quest. I don't think Falcom put them in to fool people, but because it's a classic trope and Japs love bunny suits. Fuck, every moege has at least one h-scene with a bunny suit. Bunny suit is moreso tadition. I don't think it's more safe horny than swimsuits, which actually fit your safe horny definition more.

Personally I think bunny suits suck because they even make a loli look like a hag, since they accentuate the hips. It's a disgusting loli erasure tool.
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>>563395326
You will never corrupt bunny suits, foid. You'll have to live with the fact that the Sky remake was safe horny slop compared to every other arc and Falcom series.
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>>563394952
>bunnysuits aren't seen as sexual
They aren't. We had obscenity laws in the early 1900s that could've gotten whores thrown in jail, yet bunnysuits were still a thing in Vegas.
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>>563389876
haha.. that's just how compelling the world of kiseki is. they can't keep away or stop thinking about it
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Good thing i hate women so the gayass DLC costumes don't concern me
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>>563395485
Swimsuits aren't safe horny, but there's certain designs that are clearly meant to curb their sexiness and be safe horny swimsuits. 1st does this. Everyone loves bunnysuits because they're horny, they're just not really the best fit for lolis as they're meant to accentuate a woman's curves and they have little to none.
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>>563395709
>gayass DLC
Pretty sure the gay thing isn't the DLC, it's your ass.
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>>563395768
No, swimsuits exist because we don't associate them with perversion. It's shit sluts wear on the beach. So you can get away with them. Now imagine underwear or lingerie DLC costumes. Wouldn't happen. Swimsuits are more safe horny than bunny suits even since they are shit you see everywhere in RL without sexual connotation.
Normal horny costumes would be lingerie DLCs like the Altina Kittie Noir one or the slutty Magical and slutty Dark Magical girl ones.
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>>563390415
I don't care about the anti white shit, but the tranny and LGBT propaganda was on par with westoid woke shit.
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>>563395495
I am not corrupting shit. You are entitled to like those, i like those too. But in this context they are an instrument of deception. You can enjoy it as long as you can understand you are playing woke garbage.
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>>563396272
Kitty Noir is a swimsuit. Costumes like swimsuits, the pit girls and the bunny suits are all more horny that the magical girl ones from CS4.
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>>563396543
No it's not a swimsuit. It's between underwear and lingerie. How do you even get to the swimsuit association?
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>>563396512
>I am not corrupting shit.
You're trying to make real horny things safe horny so you can push safe horny. You can apologise by posting your favorite bunny suit whore.
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>>563396638
The same page that you got your image from calls it a swimsuit.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1555251/The_Legend_of_Heroes_Sen_no_Kiseki_III__Altinas_Kitty_Noir_Costume/
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>>563396654
>real horny things safe horny
Because it is. I am not "trying to make". It is.
I have already given you the definition, you can check the definition on the internet.
It's feri btw.
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>>563397141
>I am not "trying to make".
You want everything to be safe horny so that you can censor Falcom games.
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>>563396543
>the pit girls and the bunny suits are all more horny that the magical girl ones from CS4.
Retard, the Altina magical girl costumes are pure eros. They even added the lock in front of her womb, suggesting that you have to unlock her breeding potential.
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>>563397458
kiseki peaked here
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>>563397458
The lack of T and A does nothing for me. You could fantasise about the lock, but I prefer when the goods are actually there. It's not risque compared to most of CS4's swimsuit DLC. Better than Elise I guess.
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>>563397458
the way she looks at you like she just caught you masturbating to her panties and she's about to chrono burst albion wolf is really erotic
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>>563397771
Nothing about the swimsuits is risque. It's shit you see on ghe beach and swimming pool. Are you having a perpetual boner when you go swimming during summer? On the other hand seeing girls run around like magical girl Altina would make it hard to suppress a hard on.
You don't see it every day, so you don't associate it with everyday or casual shit people wear in non sexual contexts and your brain associates it with vulnerability and innocence, which instantly adds to the desire to pump her full of your cum. The contrast between innocence and corruption thereof, as if teasing you to push her down and fuck her silly are pure eroticism.
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Is Mondblut the modern day Shakespeare?
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>>563398570
well you know what shakespeare said about brevity
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>>563395485
>It's a disgusting loli erasure tool.
What is with you old gen lolicons and hating a loli having any sort of meat? I can appreciate all types, except for oppai loli, that stuff is gross alot of the time.
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>>563398570
https://archive.transformativeworks.org/works/38645895?view_adult=true
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>>563398475
Tits and asses will always be hotter than a lock. Of course it's hot when women wear swimsuits. Magical Girl Altina just looks stupid.
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>>563398843
>the greatest piece of literature ever made
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>>563397218
It will kill you.
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>>563398843
>view_adult=true
couldn't be mondblut
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>>563396438
kondo always wrote good LGBT characters tho
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>>563398843
Say what you want about mondblut, the only people I've seen with this much passion towards an aspect of Kiseki is Reverie anon and Altina anon.
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>>563399645
Shit photoshop, doesn't look like proper pantsu. Look more like those underwear things grannies wear. They need to be slimmer at least you should see part of her tummy. This shit looks like it's fused with the skirt.
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>>563385880
>polish Horizon 2
Kai had like 2 years of dev time means jack shit if they don't bother to put effort into it.
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>>563400190
they spent all that dev time animating a bunch of gachashit tier fight cutscenes instead of making new areas or telling an actual story
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>>563400190
>Polish the quick cash fanservice act
Lol.
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>>563399440
I felt morally raped because Kai forced me to help Quatre get his hormone blockers from Remiferia. Literally what the fuck were Falcom thinking? The gay sidequest were bad, but this shit made me sick.
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>>563398889
>Of course it's hot when women wear swimsuits.
Again, when you see shit in non sexual contexts permanently, there is no sexual association anymore. The magical girl outfits are not everyday wear. So the sexual association is still there: a young girl ready to be defiled, a cumdoll willing to be pumped full of cum. The magical girl attire itself has an utterly arousing alure of youth and innocence to it. But it's not casual wear. Again: you are not desensitized to it since no one wears that shit in real life, unlike swimsuits.
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>>563400468
>>563400540
Thats easier then making an actual good game. Plus no passion for nuKiseki anyway.
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>>563396815
ESRB and legal reasons. Falcom never called it swimsiut.
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>>563295576
I'm a poorfag.
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>>563401537
It has sandals, which don't go with lingerie. It's a frilly swimsuit.
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>>563294973
Same here. Education or even medical care all for free. Forever. Never had to pay for either. Even medication is for free. If I lose my job I get money from the government until I get a new job. How can Americans even be proud of their shit country not having this?
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>>563401270
Stockholm syndrome. I and many of the real fans that didn't start with cs wants to know how the story ends and they know it. They diluted the broth so much it's not even the same story and it shows. I have stopped giving them money since cs2, i'll keep downloading and using fanpatches. I am over with them but i hate to leave things in between.
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>>563401210
Just sounds like you burnt your dopamine receptors out. Swimsuits are definitely hot. The magical girl costumes can't compare to a good swimsuit that shows everything off. Something being more rare doesn't make it actually hotter. Why do you think the Japanese fetishise their school swimsuits?
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>>563400569
Intersex people are not mentally ill, their problem is physical. You're not helping some troon live its fantasy of taking dick up the ass and submitting to a muscular man.
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Vantage Masters has the power to unite the people of Erebonia.
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>>563402159
>Why do you think the Japanese fetishise their school swimsuits?
Because they are associated with the forbidden allure of youth. It's not about being swimwear, but rather embellishment for a forbidden fruit. After you exit high school you can't see those anymore, at least getting a glimpse would be rather illegal. It'similar to school uniforms or bloomers. It's fetish wear. That makes it hot as fuck.
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>>563402435
Anon, we both know that this shit was a tranny alegory and a vessel for tranny propaganda. The whole: "I don't care if you wanna be a girl or a guy or either" line was sickening.
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>>563402572
Except it's not just lolis that wear them in their media, and one piece swimsuits exist outside of schools. They like them because it's a shared experience that they've all gone through, especially during their puberty. It's something entirely normal and regular for them but it's hot.
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>>563402716
Yeah, it was probably meant to please Blackrock or some shit.
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I am now free to play Kai, did they do anything with the battlesystem or is it still van coin toss spam and agnes nuking everything?
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>>563403192
It's a craft game. You only arts you want to use are the ones that allow you to spam more brave orders.
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>>563403023
It's not about being a loli but what this represents. That's why you see 20 something year old sluts in Japan's red light districts lure old men in wearing school uniforms. It's fetish you only associate with sex after graduating high school, even moreso because engaging with a real high school girl could end you up in jail. Even moreso with school swimsuits. At least the school uniforms you can gawk at during your commute to work in trains, but where can you see JC or JK girls in school swimsuits legally as a middle aged guy. That's why school swimsuits have such a fetish pull in Japan.
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>>563403503
It's not the innocence but the fact that they saw a bunch of them when they were younger and their mind was developing. In western countries even with the kinds of swimsuits being similar that people would wear in swim class you still don't get that fetish occurring because it's not as uniform and didn't influence our minds as much.
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The same 10 retards having the same retarded arguments...
Yeah, /fg/ will never die.
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>>563396034
>ywn be ridden by a horny Fie while she wears a shiny green swimsuit
Why live?
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>>563404063
Just see these Mondblut moments as a chance to go do something else for a bit while he keeps the general bumped with his mental illness
In that sense we're lucky to have retarded ritualposters and the mongoloid blogposter to keep this place going while the rest of us live a dignified life
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>fiend boss can possess your party members until you KO them
Zamn...
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>>563405089
Life is unfair.
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>>563405297
oh no juna must be s-crafted to death...
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>>563405297
Yo fuck those guys, they suck ass in Reverie too.
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>add long hair extension
>10 times hotter
why is this always the case?
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>>563406764
I actually like this whore better with shorter hair.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVheY_PRC3Y
this shit was kino
azure has been amazing so far
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Is sigmund peak jaegerism?
No bullshit or strange hobbies or interests.
Strict to the point, doesn't waste words.
If kills are needed, killing is done.
Actually respects the mc but doesn't treat him like jesus.
Never caught in some silly shit with the mc to have fun with. No funny scenes or "le silly" attitude with his comrades.
In for the mira, is not a chosen one with stupid magical powers or a piece of some kind of mystical puzzle. Even in the azure tree he was there just for the kicks.
Second in command of the strongest jaeger group (west zemuria).
Warcry was op as fuck before powercreep.
No savescum resurrections.
Huge, animal like, demands respect and fear instead of an average salaryman like the jaeger "king".
Has an hot daughter.
Cs totally shat on jaegers and i don't remember anything relevant from sky on that front. I haven't played calvard games but that "kasim" or something like that was just a "look how cool this not arios is with his huge retard gun".
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>>563407913
>>563407954
Jaegermind
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>>563407913
I miss Randy
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>I haven't played calvard games but that "kasim" or something like that was just a "look how cool this not arios is with his huge retard gun".
Kasim haters don't even play the games, shocker
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>>563408726
It just looked ridicolous sorry.
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>>563407913
>this shit was kino
No one died despite Randy firing gunpowder bullets from a massive machine gun.
>>563407954
>raises genetic dead end daughter
>raids Crossbell
>not a single named character dies
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>>563408726
Well is not incorrect lol. Kasim is basically the lightning of kiseki. Every fucking time is "look how cool this guy is, is always saving the mc and his group" "oh i wonder what kasim is doing" "oh he is so important and famous even if we never heard of him in 10 games before him". He is basically arios in zero but way stupider. And the fact he uses his hugeasscannon in melee is retard.
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>>563409104
>genetic dead end daughter
Till we see cedric again, you can't tell.
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Every fucking time is "look how cool this guy is, is always saving the mc and his group" "oh i wonder what cassius is doing" "oh he is so important and famous even if we never heard of him in 10 games before him". He is basically John Kiseki but way stupider. And the fact he uses his stupidassbostaff against mecha robots is retard.
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the only reason kasim gets this much hate is because he powercrept cold steel characters lets be real otherwise no one would care
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>>563409467
Lol you started with cs and never played the sky games and it shows. Imagine being this dumb holy fuck.
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>>563409540
Shizuna beat rean in his peak form without even breaking a sweat and she is not hated tho.
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>>563409658
If I hadn't played Sky how would I reference Cassius fighting the reverie with his staff at the end of Sky FC? Think your posts through, Pedrinho
>>563409779
The difference is Shizuna is white and Kasim isn't, so the chudcels hate him
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>>563409826
>Shizuna is white
She is what now? Lol. Man just say you like chicks and close at it.
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>>563409974
What color is her skin?
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>>563410112
Anime color
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>>563410112
So i suppose kai fai and cao are white for you too right? But considering you started the cassius thing i suppose you are just mentally impaired so why bother talking to you.
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>>563410234
>can't answer a simple question
Concession accepted.
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Kasim and Dingo? Real heroes. Not like C*ssius and *rios? Bums.
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Dingo was so fucking stupid. Oh i wonder who is this mysterious power ranger like i can't think of a named, voiced character that "died" two hours ago in a series where nobody dies ever.
I mean it was really a plot twist? They meant it to be?
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kasim owes me sex
with feri
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>>563411083
Why do people like you feel the need to act smart when it's obvious you got spoiled about Dingo? You didn't predict shit, you're just a retard that ruined his own experience lol
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>>563411851
Lol wut. I bet you had trouble to guess who C was during cs1.
Fucking two digits iq i swear.
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>>563411963
Yeah, yeah, you just so happened to assume the mysterious murder machine HAD to be a character that had recently died, that was something your intuition just clocked
Imagine being so pathetic you need to act tough on the Internet while being anonymous rofl
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>>563411618
Describe the smell.
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>>563412108
>mysterious murder machine HAD to be a character that had recently died
Oh no i've never seen this trope in any anime\jrpg before or just in the last fucking chapter of this series, ever.
For fuck sake man just stop. I think even naruto is too difficult for you.
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>>563404020
>It's not the innocence but the fact that they saw a bunch of them when they were younger and their mind was developing.
That's not it anon, it's about the alure of the forbidden fruit.
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Yeah nah, don’t believe you.
You knew Dingo was C when he just died and this character is warning ASO about a threat in the near-future?
Don’t believe you.

That’s like claiming you solved Osborbe’s riddle in CS2.
There is no way to make sense of it unless you are a Falcom writer.
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>>563412271
Bet you also knew Richard would stage a coup the moment he first showed up on screen lmao
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>>563413110
No sky actually had a writing and not a two page script with anime tropes on it.
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>>563413241
>No sky actually had a writing
Maybe you should try learning how to write.
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>>563407954
>If kills are needed, killing is done.
>Cs totally shat on jaegers and i don't remember anything relevant from sky on that front
Sky introduced jaegers as an actual threat when the Hamel incident came to light.
Cold Steel has a group of jaegers literally burn an entire town to the ground and kill their mayor, among other casualties.

The Red Constellation however, despite your glazing, doesn't kill a single named character in Azure, neither in Mainz nor in Crossbell, and ends up being a joke when they flee the Azure Tree after two honorable fights that "test your resolve".
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>>563413324
>Oh the retard that didn't catch about the shonen plot tropes is giving me an attitude.
English is not my first language but at least i am not a dumb shit like you lol.
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>>563413428
>English is not my first language
We know.
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Kisekiddies really don't consume anything else outside of Kiseki huh?
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>>563413342
>doesn't kill a single named character in Azure, neither in Mainz nor in Crossbell
Have you... played the game?
>The red constellation didn't kill a single named character in crossbell.
Really?
In any case, nobody kills anyone in those games but at least they left bodies on the ground not offscreen.
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>>563411963
>Lol wut. I bet you had trouble to guess who C was during cs1.
"C" could've been Rufus.
It wasn't as obvious as you'd think just because you knew the reveal in advance after being spoiled.
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>>563413597
I meaaan this series is 1500 hours?? Gimme a break nigga, I outgrew anime but I'm still trapped with Trails Stockholm syndrome.
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>>563413612
>In any case, nobody kills anyone in those games
They do, though, in Sky and Cold Steel.
And you just glazed the Red Constellation for being "real jaegers" who kill when necessary, so that's already a contradiction in just two posts you made.
CS haters really are the bottom of the barrel, huh?
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>>563413862
>Cold Steel.
One civil war spanning the country and only one Market Manager died. Nobody dies in Cold Steel.
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>>563413630
>could've been Rufus
Yeah of course i have to think the one that has no ties with the class is C, not the one that slipped aside in the mines, was suspiciously absent during the fight and after that came back wasn't him. Or the one that is litterally presented after a fluttering crow in the intro, no wait i should ignore that right? I should also ignore the fact crow already gave me enough red flags on how he hates the chancellor, or the fact that all the terrorist goes with the first letter of their names, of course it was Crufus Albarea. How strange crow always slacks around and is never present during the front operations, man what an absurd coincidence he's really a goofball right? Or crow disappearing COINCIDENTALLY before osborne got shot because man he really wanted to see that speech by person. Nah it's fucking rufus using an ambidextrous weapon because of course the only boy that has specifically that skill can't be C.
You are a fucking retard. Read some preschool mistery books they are more at your speed.
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>>563414443
>mistery
You think mystery is spelt like that? Go back to school, kid.
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>>563414160
In just CS 1 and 2 there're Gideon, Otto, Roan, Osborne and Crow as known, named characters who die on-screen. More unnamed people can be seen dying in Nord and Garrelia, and the news are full of death reports during the civil war.
You're factually wrong and will be wrong every time you repeat your delusional "arguments".
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>>563414160
but m-muh nameless NPCs!
the baker’s fiance from leeves!
Market Manager Otto..!
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>>563414757
We're talking about the civil war. Only Otto dies, and Osborne was dead to begin with in CS1. Crow also didn't really die. Then when you get into CS3 and CS4 everyone who "dies" was already dead.
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>>563414757
Gideon dies in Azure, and in Crossbell.
Crow doesn’t die and neither does Osborne, and yes that is taking into account every single thing regarding their situations.
Nobody died in Garrelia.
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>>563415126
>muh civil war
It's not like C7 were front infantrymen, they were like an elite Delta Force. They ain't gonna see all them deaths and shit.
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Total important deaths in Sky: 2. Loewe and Weissmann.
Total important deaths in Crossbell: 3. Joachim, Comrade G, and Pater Mater.
Total important deaths in Cold Steel: 1. Comrade V.
Total important deaths in Calvard: -1. Revived Pater Mater and other deaths are in limbo.
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>>563415627
>Pater Mater
lmao
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>>563414709
Yeah whatever.
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>>563415627
>not counting Otto as important death
Fuck you
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>>563415375
>It's not like C7 were front infantrymen, they were like an elite Delta Force
Any kind of elite Delta Force present in a war zone would be no stranger to death .
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>>563415892
Didn't the Delta Force kidnap some spic president from South America last month? Zero casualties on the american side.
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>>563415785
Ehi i was sad for him. Fuck off i liked that hunk pile of metal.
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The funniest thing is these "enlightened" individuals that can see the twists and reveals from a mile away... never predict anything accurately lmao
This guy will sit here telling us it was obvious who C was but will be incapable of predicting Kyoto Xanadu's plot and Kai 2's villain
But don't worry, 2 years from now he'll be posting about how obvious it all was
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>>563413862
The red constellations are the ONLY jaegers that kill people on screen. Not in an hazy flashback, not offscreen, not by citation. No fake deaths, just a lot of bullets and blood. You litterally see them killing gruesomely.
Just for that they are first in the list.
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>>563416134
No you are just a dumb fuck with no deductional skills and probably a speedreader.
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>>563415785
unironically the saddest death
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>>563416338
And you're a lonely loser with such crippling self-esteem issues you feel the need to pretend to be "uber smart" on 4chan while being anonymous.
Predict Horizon 2's plot right now.
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>>563416338
Explain how you deduced it was C and how you knew this new C was gonna be able to tell Van and co. about an attack that had yet to happen when he died on-screen.
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/fg/ kept on telling me that they thought Claire was C, Cedric was C the second, Harwood was the red grendel, and Agnes was the white grendel. Why should I ever believe someone here when they say they can predict the plot?
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Finally reached the cold steel games, what am i in for
I've heard CS1 is kinda ass
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>>563416629
Chadric is Richard the second
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>>563390415
>Pretty much only Falcom can write a woke game in such a way that even right wingers will play it.
You mean, write it as the 11th game so people who aren't anti-white seething leftists have to bite their tongue and deal with it? That's always how woke operates, they can't create shit, they always hijack something existing.
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>>563396438
I'll never understand this, unless you're not white yourself, in which case fair I guess.
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>>563416785
Depends on your tolerance for LN anime tropes and the characters themselves.
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>>563402435
>You're not helping some troon live its fantasy of taking dick up the ass and submitting to a muscular man.
>just ignore he's experimenting
>just ignore that he runs a vtuber channel as a girl
>just ignore he cleraly has a crush on Van as well as Agnes
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>>563416785
It's an experience that will stay in your heart forever
Whether positively or negatively is up to you, but even the Rean haters can't go a single day without thinking about Rean
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>>563411083
I legitimately hate Dingo and what he has done to the story of Calvard.
The fact he'll survive because of the time reset just makes it worse.
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>>563416785
It's really shitty mate. I'd advise looking up spoilers and skipping to Calvard.
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Would you... Celine?
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Honestly, I'd like to see Cedric as a badass, but goddamn was he done dirty in CS3-4. The only cool feat he has is in Reverie.
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>>563416785
You've heard nonsense, CS1-CS2 are the best selling Trails games for a reason.
https://streamable.com/y4y70a?src=player-page-share
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Well, I did consider Dingo as one of the possibilities for the coated man. It could be some Alternate-Van too. Rufus could also be a possibility when it was revealed that Altera=Lapis. There is no real logic behind it other than "It's a Falcom thing to do".
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>>563415126
>We're talking about the civil war
You literally said "Nobody dies in Cold Steel" one post prior >>563414160, nothing about the civil war specifically.
Mouthbreathing retard lmao.
Being a CS hater seems to require at most a sub 80IQ.
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>>563416628
Dingo as C?
Hmmm nothing exceptional. I mean crow was braindead you had a billion hints.
The blatant redflags about him as C was the style of his messages which were a lot professional and verbose, but if you didn't play with the real translation you could easily overlooked it and the fact that C knew events of van past that only dingo could have known. Of course it wasn't like crow a 100% i am sure its him but after crossing some suspects (and after cs you know those dumbfucks are always around the party and not a random maniac) you go for the "it's an important character for a lot of named characters and they kill him after 10 minutes" in a gimmick and classified incident.
Again not a 100% like crow but holy fuck after 2 C you should start to see it coming.
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>>563417901
Dementia-kun, what did the previous sentence say?
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>>563417559
Yes without even thinking in cat form but i am not into rimming that much.
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>>563417901
Vankid is an ESL.
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>>563417559
That's pretty gay
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>>563417924
>>563417808
Oh also this holy shit after dark rean on reverie you can think falcom is that empty to repeat that stupid as fuck gimmick again but i hoped not. I was ready to uninstall if that was the case.
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notice he refuses to make any predictions
but he will call it obvious a year after kai 2 releases
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>>563417560
>gets all the jaeger tots
That's good enough for Cedric, he doesn't deserve badass moments after like 6 months of training. Rean started at Thors with 7 years of swordsmanship and was struggling.
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>>563418262
I stopped playing after kuro 2 and i am not interested in this arc any more.
You are still a dumb fuck not seeing one for the stupidest plot twist in the history of jrpg. No matter how defensive you can be, you are still dumb.
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>>563415315
>Gideon dies in Azure, and in Crossbell.
An unnamed NPC dies in Azure. Cold Steel gave him a name, a face and a personality.
>Crow doesn’t die and neither does Osborne, and yes that is taking into account every single thing regarding their situations.
Again, factually wrong. You didn't understand what it means to be an Awakener.
Claiming that their situations aren't important is pure cope.
>Nobody died in Garrelia.
Plenty of soldiers and terrorists were mowed down and killed. Play the games. I'm not talking about the Zero Aieon's attack way later; that outcome was foreshadowed all the way back in Azure when KeA said that she influenced the Aieon's actions to be non-lethal.
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>>563418285
I mean he gets one in Reverie, and a badass glowup if he shows up again is justified considering the timeskip and hard training he's going through
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>waaah it is anti-white
Not once is anyone in Calvard ever condemned for being white.
Almata is not a white supremacist organization, they literally grift racist old white dudes, who remain largely in the background. The exception being Elaine’s dad.
We see morally ambiguous characters like Kasim, Cronkite, Shizuna and Ikaruga, Heiyue and others that are not white.
Agnes felt uneasy about the fact Heiyue controls Langport.
The Scorpions of Zahat prey and drug a child grieving the loss of his entire village; probably the most objectively evil thing one can do is committed by Central Easterns.
The Far East where Shizuna is from is
described as locked in ceaseless conflict.

None of you ever make salient points. If you approached the rest of the series with this mindset we would have had tired arguments about Sky being woke over interactions like the ones Schera and General Morgan have, simply because she is not white and he is.
But no, only in Calvard does your mind wander to these stupid thoughts were you see Dantes blow up a nuke and think
>oh he did it because he is white! he was also in the devil pedo cult because he is white! the game never says that but that is totally the message!!
Stupid, stupid people arguing with other stupid, detached-from-reality idiots.
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Tell me it wouldn't be Kino if Cedric shows up again, the Divine Knights are back, and Cedric gets in Testa-Rossa and says:
>I'm glad to see you again, Testa-Rossa... This time, let's do this right
>You've grown during this time, Cedric. I'm proud of you.
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>>563415627
>Total important deaths in Sky: 2. Loewe and Weissmann.
Both of those return in the 3rd.
>Total important deaths in Crossbell: 3. Joachim, Comrade G, and Pater Mater.
lmao
A villain, an unnamed rebel and a machine.
>Total important deaths in Cold Steel: 1. Comrade V.
See >>563414757
Your arc will never stop being filler, Crosscuck.
Nobody of importance dies in Crossbell.
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>>563418380
>can't make a prediction
lmao owned
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>>563418658
>Cedric shows up again
Yeah. But not as a silly character like gilbert a real threat this time.
>the Divine Knights are back
Holy fuck no.
>Cedric gets in Testa-Rossa
It would be more fun if he gets the weapon Testa-Rossa and he can use it like Randy and the reason why he has it is because Shirley is pregnant.
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>>563418681
>Takes an unbiased list as an attack on Cold Steel
If you feel embarrassed maybe you shouldn't defend it and try to drag down other arcs.
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Lez sex between Shirley and Rixia (azure) with a lot of ryona.
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What if Cedric in the final game says
>Testa-Rossa, what a joke.
throws his sword away, and picks up Olivier's lute in his honor?
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Cedric is too busy getting gangbanged by men in locker rooms to actually show up in any future installments
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anyone notice how cold steel fags have been hating crossbell lately? it's weird.
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Cedric fans are all underage, huh?
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>>563418473
A dude with a portrait dies in Crossbell. So yes, Gideon dies in Crossbell, not Cold Steel.
>factually wrong
Your argument? Yeah, I know. To the player, Crow and Osborne never die. Crow “dies,” we go what the finale of CS2 without seeing him and he shows up in the next game, we learn how and why he is alive, in 4 Rean braces himself for his “real” death since the start but no, he is brought “back to life” despite not dying except for a few months.
Crow does not kill Osborne. Osborne has not had a heart for years when he was shot.
>terrorists mowed down and killed
Source?
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It's honestly understandable that people defend Daybreak as not woke. It must be hard to go through ten games you enjoy then be hit with that nonsense
That's how woke operates, they rarely create any new IPs and when they do they usually flop hard, so they take over what exists, wit hexisting fanbases
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>>563419179
That's just Ragecuck.
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>>563418915
>DK are back
It's going to happen, dude. We're going to the Beyond sooner or later. Or the veil between the Beyond and Zemuria is going to weaken. And that's where the DKss are.
I don't think they'll bring Cedric back as a silly character like Gilbert, he beat the stuffing out of him in Reverie
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This guy was glazing Orlando (and Shirley) as "peak jaegerism" for shooting a handful of unnamed rebel NPCs in Azure, but ignores that they failed to kill even a single named NPC or main character in Crossbell or Mainz during their raids.
Even the woman who had a huge chandelier dropped onto her or the CPD secretary who was caught in a grenade explosion came out alive and well.

But Northern Jaegers raiding and burning down a town in Cold Steel, killing its mayor and destroying the source of income for every merchant and farmer, is too tame and "shitting on jaegers".
lol
Even Vulcan kills more soldiers on-screen with his minigun than Orlando does and actually has the decency to give his life for his mission instead of fleeing after his failure like Orlando did.
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>>563419528
We had 5 games of those, it was really starting to get boring considering they are a glorified rock paper scissors. I am not against seeing them or talking to them or whatever doing something with them but no more fucking gundam piloting.
They could go zolgas and become power armors tho, it would be cool.
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>>563419368
So why are you using the general of a woke company? Feel free to move on to edgier pastures
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>>563419368
Sounds like you don’t have an argument.
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>>563419778
You're getting too lost in the sauce. Nobody will earnestly respond to bait like this.
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>>563419237
>Source?
Nta but play the games?
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>>563419179
They’re mad Lloyd beat Rean, just ignore em
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>>563420019
The Orlando glazing? I agree that it was probably bait, but people did respond to it.
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>>563419778
>raiding and burning down a town in Cold Steel
RC basically torched crossbell but i am sure a bumfuck village of 4 houses is more important and the damages were way over cb. Probably just the damages in front of the IBC cost 10 times the damages in the entire village lmao who gives a shit.
>handful of unnamed rebel NPCs in Azure
They were litterally a terrorist commando, full armed, the nj tried (lol) and didn't get to kill not even a single unarmed farmer except an old guy. And again kills on screen > kills offscreen and the only effect is an old dude in a bed tuckered down for the night.
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>>563419778
Sigmvnd, Shirley and Wald, the most ruthless and brutal kiseki villains... (zero named casualties in Azure after a full scale raid, open warfare with the CDF in Mainz and three battles to the death on the Tree)
PEAK jaegerism and demonism...
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>>563420031
I did.
I do not remember terrorists getting killed in Garrelia Fortress.
I remember Class VII stopping the ILF, but no deaths occurred there.
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>>563420220
Like I said, you really need to work on your baiting skills. Nobody can take you seriously if you defend Celdic. I get you want the dopamine, but it's not sustainable long term.
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>>563419237
>Source?
https://youtu.be/oTlTBp7hfI4?t=858
On your knees and begging for mercy, dog.
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>>563420031
>>563420635
Play the games?
Incidentally, Jaegers also murder soldiers on-screen during the prologue sequence of Cold Steel 3 at Juno, but I'm sure you don't remember that either lol.

>>563420725
nice
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>>563420725
>no blood
They're unconscious like the Red Constellation fuckers that Randy shot.
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>>563420725
D-DOESN'T COUNT
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>>563420725
aiiieeeeeeeeee.... not like this...
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>>563420595
kek
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>>563420725
>aieeeeee
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>>563420725
Got it.
But then again, you were wrong about everything else and thus we circle back to>>563414778
>m-muh nameless NPCs
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Crosscucks have been really uppity lately.
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>reee, somebody dies in these games, I swear.
Kiseki fans were really mindbroken by that critique for some reason.
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>>563420725
That image has more deaths than the entire Sky trilogy LMAO
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>>563421261
We're not falling for your bait, Crosscuck. You've been wrong about everything so far and even had visual proof shoved into your face just minutes ago.
If you want your bait to be believable, you can't just continue like this.
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>>563421731
And how impactful were the deaths of those random nazi soldiers? Exactly.
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The real point of the question is.
After a more "adult" setting as crossbell with their political themes, police drama and so on and so forth, why they have decreased the quality to a school shonen?
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>>563421856
About as impactful as Sky's plot ROFL
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>>563421839
So you made me into a boogeyman because you were wrong about Gideon, Crow and Osborne? Ok.

>>muh nameless NPCs!!
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The real point of the question is.
After a more "adult" setting like Liberl with its political themes, military drama and so on and so forth, why did they decrease the quality to a cop shonen?
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Kondo here, we are now going to have Rean job to Cao and Gaolang in Kai 2 because you retards refuse to behave.
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>>563422221
Sky and cb were more or less on equal stand.
Oh wait you didn't play them so you shouldn't know.
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>>563422339
SHUT THE FUCK UP LLLOYD KID YOUR ARC IS SHIT SKY IS BEST FRIENDS WITH US CODL STEEL CHADS PLEASE JUST LEAVE US ALONE WE'VE DONE NOTHING TO YOU TOU FUCKING IDIOTS YOUR ARC IS THE WORT IN THE SERIES EVEN WORSE THAN CALVARD
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>>563422260
>Rean job to Cao
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The real point of the question is.
After a more "adult" setting like Gagharv with its political themes, apocalyptic drama and so on and so forth, why did they decrease the quality to a brotherfucker romcom?
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>>563422484
Reanspic...
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>>563422339
>Sky and cb were more or less on equal stand
lol
No they aren't, Crosscuck.
Lloyd is a shonen MC who does bracer work for the police and convinces the big bad behind everything to stop his schemes through talk no jutsu.
Crossbell is a literal filler arc.
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>>563422540
Kondom played White Witch and said "yeah, i can make something as good as this game!" and then made a dogshit romcom for foids
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>>563422705
The second half of Cold Steel revolves around Crossbell. If Crossbell is filler then so is Cold Steel as they're both Phantasmal Blaze.
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>>563418574
>T-The villains aren't white supremacists, they're just funded by them! by the way "white" as in "caucasian" was never used in the series before the same game as "whtie supremacist". Not at all anti-white though
>Agnes felt uneasy about the fact Heiyue controls Langport.
And then spent three games doing their dirty work together wit hthe rest of ASO. Including Aaron, who is Gien's bitch despite being complicit in murdering his friends. We're supposed to not hate Gien?
Speaking of Heiyue, they're not white, can't have them be bad, they're now protectors against the only race allowed to be bad- white people.
>We see morally ambiguous characters like Kasim, Cronkite, Shizuna and Ikaruga, Heiyue and others that are not white.
Kasim: Just a jaeger doing a security contract, nothing ambiguous
Cronkite: Hasn't done anything wrong
Shizuna, Ikaruga: Jaegers
Heiyue: Whitewashed (funny word considering)
>But no, only in Calvard does your mind wander to these stupid thoughts were you see Dantes blow up a nuke and think
The entire setting made it about race even though it wasn't. Gramheart made a "diversity is our strength" speech.
>The Scorpions of Zahat prey and drug a child grieving the loss of his entire village; probably the most objectively evil thing one can do is committed by Central Easterns.
It is one of the few exceptions, the Scorpions of Zahat are kinda scummy, but 1 quest doesn't override three games.
>The Far East where Shizuna is from is described as locked in ceaseless conflict.
yeah and so was Calvard until we got there. When we get there it'll be fucking Wakanda. And the funny thing is practically all of /fg/ thinks it will be Wakanda.

I just go back to the usual facts
All the best fighters are immigrants (Kasim and Shizuna), there are zero Calvardian fighting styles, all four are immigrant.
All the best scientists are immigrants, the two major white scientists are an Almata conspirator (Later a corpse) and a bimbo.
Also Dingo. Just Dingo.
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>>563422705
SHUT THE FUCK UP REAN KID YOUR ARC IS SHIT SKY IS BEST FRIENDS WITH US CROSS BLEL CHADS PLEASE JUST LEAVE US ALONE WE'VE DONE NOTHING TO YOU TOU FUCKING IDIOTS YOUR ARC IS THE WORT IN THE SERIES EVEN WORSE THAN CALVARD
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You should calm down.
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>>563422892
Reanspic...
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>>563422892
A no u? Kind of embarrassing for you.
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i was having a nice relaxing sunday then i came to read this thread...
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>>563422892
Crosscuck...
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>>563422892
rage schizo...
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>>563422705
> convinces the big bad behind everything to stop his schemes through talk no jutsu.
Oh wow, there's no final boss in Azure???
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>>563422101
>muh nameless NPCs!!
In Crossbell, yes, no named character dies besides Joachim (a literal comically evil villain) unlike Cold Steel where you know the casualties by name and actually spent time with them before their deaths.
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I'm not joking, these constant cortisol spikes due to your hatred for Cold Steel are gonna ruin your health
There's already 2 anons that developed early onset Parkinson's because they hated Rean too much for far too long
Fix your shit before you genuinely ruin your health...
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>>563423541
As an outsider, where does this unhinged hatred even come from? Until Calvard, every arc was kino in its own right.
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why does cold steel cause so much cognitive dissonance?
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My writing is so complex it got /fg/ debating passionately about it.
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Remember, he's been lashing out for over 10 years because /fg/ rejected Cold Steel. I feel bad for him.
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I miss Vantage Masters and Pom Party. Kai's poker and blackjack are fun but just not unique enough. And that 4 way Blade or whatever in DB2 sucked
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>>563423898
It can never really be fully explained logically because the person doing it is genuinely mentally ill and refuses his medication, so a lot of his actions are illogical
But it amounts to
>Cold Steel wasn't exactly what I wanted so I feel personally betrayed by Falcom
>I will now dedicate the rest of my life to hurting a video game character on the Internet
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>>563422865
>heiyue got whitewashed
I am not surprised wokefag has no idea how the Yakuza or Italian mobs form.
>do Heiyue’s dirty work
When? The first Langport visit is about stopping Almata, the second is a waste of time thought up by Cao meant to push character development on Aaron.
Calvard isn’t about race. No one but you sees that.
>Kasim and Cronkite are not morally ambiguous
Oh yeah, MTSC and helping the president kill the box was done for the good of the world.
>Shizuna, Heiyue
Yeah, people killing people for money or other personal gain are not at all morally ambiguous.
I want to know what you are smoking to think Calvard dealing with immigration and racism means people are literally murking each other by siccing jaegers to each other, like in the far east.

Again, no argument from wokefag. Just more mental illness and fanfic.
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>>563424201
What kind of no-lifer defends a game for so long just because he self inserted in it?
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>>563424649
I think he believes he is Rean.
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im rean
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>>563425601
Rean!
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>>563423898
Cold steel wanted cheap money so they went full for the school shonen. Many other jrpgs went that way (valk chronicles is an example) in the psp\vita era. The others failed miserably cs was... ok-ish. Cs ofc was uglier (neptunia dungeons with immense corridors, early ps2 models) and coming from the gorgeous spritework of sky and cb it was lame. Cs was a phallocentric arc of a self insert character which you can like or not. They dumbed down the orbments, the fights, stealing turns wasn't important anymore and so on and so forth. Also the plotline was a nothingburger, all the ouroboros stuff jumped chapter by chapter with tee-hee see ya next time and solved (badly) on the fanservice game (reverie). Add a lot of dumb shonen plot twist, people coming back to life all the times making the stakes basically 0 because you know every death was fake. All summed up, it was "ok" but very inferior in terms of worldbuilding, characters and gameplay.
Calvard is just woke shit with a very weak mc, very weak group, the second game is basically the "fanservice game" like sky3 or reverie and is centered around filler characters from reverie and not even the main group. I don't know about kai but they called back rean (mc of cs) and kevin a fan favourite from sky just saying how much desperate they are.
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>>563425867
Trails peaked here.
Man, CS4 was so fucking good.
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>>563425867
Altina...
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>>563423898
He really spent 20 minutes on that bait response.
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>>563426289
Litterally 3 mins while i was cooking.
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>>563423898
Kai is more kino than anything that happens in Cold Steel, though.
>As an outsider
/fg/ is an outsider thread, mostly full of retards that started with CS.
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I miss gun rean. Funny how the bad guy turned out to be the gun guy.
Imagine if rean was C in the original script. Pure cinema.
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>>563426398
look at that lustful gaze
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>>563425867
The black workshop was so shit. Everyone calling Rean's name like the self insert he is.
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>>563426398
and then they fucked like animals
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>>563425920
Erebonia could have been so good. It's a shame Cold Steel ruined everything.
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>>563426505
Too much an obvious Lelouch expy.

>>563426508
>>563426573
Haha...
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>>563426749
Imagine a cool fantasy political drama with heimldarr and the dk made of soulful sprites and rich enviroments instead we had the pffff student council and the pffff school festival.
Man that's so fucking lame.
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>>563426749
The ambition was there.
It just needed better execution.
If Falcom had had the balls to either not go for the HS setting or to abandon the “not-bracer doing bracer shit” formula it would all have been for the better.
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>>563426983
what's ferocious lesbian sex like?
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Crosscuck...
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>>563426983
Meh probably they realized there would have been trouble to put a school self insert character with a gun and sell it in america.
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>>563426398
>>563426508
>>563426573
>>563426983
Reana X Altina fapfic when
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>>563426519
character name + dots good writing i lear in dramas, you rike?
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>>563427116
A workout, if you're doing it right.

>>563427195
lol

>>563427361
Haha...
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>>563427112
Was the ambition really there though? If they were ambitious they would have figured out the soldier thing.
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>>563427578
>A workout, if you're doing it right.
That is kind of what I figured, honestly. Haha...
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>>563427923
I think so.
Even if it was a given with how Crossbell ended, I do think bringing back these characters little by little and planning this grandiose finale framed with an all-encompassing world war is ambitious.
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The cemenet-kissers have been getting far too uppity lately
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>>563427578
I wonder if real life sisters lez out more than we'd think
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>>563428370
altina loves semen... oh wait wrong letter!
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>>563428370
>gets back up again like a TRVE HERO and wins
Haha, he’s so cool...
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>>563428235
I feel like going right back to school in CS3 sucked it all away. There was ambition in CS2's ending but the sequel handled it the worst way possible.
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he got carried off by rixia while everyone was chanting RUFUS RUFUS
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>>563428826
He just needed a training arc
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Osborne (pre cs) was so cool. Two loli, claire, lechter.
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>>563427578
Still reading that gay CS Elise fanfic?
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I recently finished Trails to Azure and came to this thread to share my thoughts, and it's surprising to see people glazing it so much.
It really felt like a step down from Sky in pretty much every aspect.

Lloyd is one of the blandest protagonists I have ever seen, especially after Estelle, Joshua and Kevin raised my expectations tremendously. Seeing him be overshadowed by Randy at every opportunity just felt like a humiliation ritual at some point.
It certainly didn't help that every female side character turned into a Lloydbrained concubine after 5 minutes of knowing him. I swear, Elie and Tio were throwing in jealous remarks whenever he talked to another woman as soon as act 2 of Trails to Zero, and Noel immediately joined in on their obsession once she'd joined in Azure. But, aside from being cute, we're never given a proper reason as to why they like him in the first place.
The whole SSS just didn't feel as naturally developed as Sky's cast of characters who actually underwent drama and character growth at times.

The worldbuilding from Sky completely went up in flames once we entered Crossbell with its modern cityscape, amusement parks, skyscrapers and high tech appliances all over the place.
Remember how big of a deal that escalator in Zeiss was? I do.

I don't have any complaints about the Revache plot from Zero, but the entire league of supervillains from Azure (including Ouroboros) was a complete joke.
Wald is an edgy delinquent who repeats the exact same character arc his underling already underwent in Trails from Zero, down to the drug he's taking.
Shirley is equally edgy and I really didn't like her rivalry with Rixia.
Ouroboros went from super ruthless in Sky to joining skype calls and serving as minor villains for Grimwood.
And Grimwood himself, the mastermind behind everything bad happening in those games, literally threw in the towel and gave up on his plans after Lloyd told him that his actions were wrong. Imagine if Weissmann had done that.
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>>563424604
>am not surprised wokefag has no idea how the Yakuza or Italian mobs form.
For the 104th time you can't use that line when all the white mafias are evil
>but muh Garcia
Is one guy who gets a redemption arc within the evil mafia
>When are you doing Heiyue's dirty work, except all the time you're doing Heiyue's dirty work
lmao
>Completely ignored everything I said about all the best people in every field being immigrants, again
>Oh yeah, MTSC and helping the president kill the box was done for the good of the world.
... yes? What the fuck? The entire point of blowing up the box is to stop the loops? How is that a bad thing? You can say it's a doomed venture but it's not at all morally ambiguous

Also, I've heard for ages about how jaegers aren't really considered bad since Cold Steel and how Shirley having a swimming competition was bad and now Shizuna has a swimming competition and constantly hangs around Van in his office and at most it's considered a funny annoyance look she's bothering Van again ha ha
>Calvard isn’t about race. No one but you sees that.
This is how I know you're taking the piss. Every fucking game there's extremely racialised quests. The single historical event in Calvard is extremely racialised itself.
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>>563428859
Yeah in my annual full play trough all the games i always skip cs3. It's so fucking boring, just a presentation chapter and nothng else.
CS2 was fucking weak on the "get the group together again" but at least it paid off in the end.
CS3 is nothing, really.
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>>563429276
Tita's parents came into Zeiss in two single person flying jetcars.
Gas powered vehicles and modern day (or near modern day firearms) were literally phased out like 50 years prior for orbal tech.
And of course, airships which fly in a way that real life planes just can't.
Honestly? I blame this criticism on Americans who have never seen a European city like Amsterdam and think that not having skyscrapers means you're backwards.
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>>563428859
I disagree.
I think an ending with more definitively sadder, or at least more bitter than sweet would have been bolder and more befitting for CS2.
I kinda get you, but honestly I think CS3 and its Class VII did the whole high school thing better than CS1 and its Class VII.
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>>563419784
there's a mech fight at the end of Horizon remember?
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>>563429651
Yeah and i hope it stays that way because rean and whatever.
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>>563429276
Last but not least, I've now played two games set in Crossbell and spent 200+ hours talking to these same NPCs over and over again, but I don't feel like the story has actually gone anywhere.
Unlike Sky, there was no epilogue, no conclusion for any of these characters. We're just told that Erebonia invaded and that's it. No conclusion for Oscar and Bennet, the miners of Mainz, or anyone else.
It feels like a filler arc they made between Sky and Cold Steel that had a strong start, but no ending ever prepared for it.
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>>563429276
Haha................. Azure just couldn't live up to Zero and it was the sign of what was yet to come in Cold Steel...
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>>563429864
Yeah, man, just face it. Horizon having mech battles even early on is just a big hint that they're going to bring back the DKs.
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>>563429276
>>563429868
>It feels like a filler arc they made between Sky and Cold Steel
That's because it literally is. Falcom made the Crossbell games in Sky's engine while they worked in Cold Steel, their first 3D games and the next big arc. That's why Crossbell feels so half-baked at times and barely introduces new areas between Zero and Azure.
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Politics in Crossbell are like 20 times more mature than those in Sky though? The poltiics in Sky are the second worst after in Calvard
>Anything Alicia says is peak wisdom, nobility bad except Alicia
>when Alicia is wrong she's actually right
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>>563430009
It's so boring is fucking cold steel again jesus christ a new arc is a new arc. They have already dropped down the super sentai now we are back to rean and dk? Jesus.
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>>563429868
it was indeed a filler arc they made while they needed more time to finish cold steel. that's why there was no conclusion to anything
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Why can't he accept the Queen is highly smart? Is it because she's a woman and he's scared of them? No one ever moaned Osborne and Rocksmith were always right
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>>563430139
Alicia has never once been proven wrong.
>muh Richard
Richard was a chud having a melty his hero Cassius Bright, THE Divine Blade, left the army.
Richard does all the shit he does because Cassius left.
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>>563429276
I felt the same way about Crossbell.
Cold Steel reintroduces epilogues where you get a proper conclusion after the major events are over, and generally does a better job with the worldbuilding and character development.
Rean outclasses Lloyd as a protagonist so badly it's not even funny.
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ngl I chuckled a little bit every time I am reminded some people look at Queen Alicia and seethe
she's meant to be this nice grandma figure for the player yet she causes so much anal anguish on a certain crowd lmao
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>>563430753
maybe grandma should have been written better
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>>563430529
>Rean outclasses Lloyd as a protagonist
If your hs life was shit and no girl wanted you it's your problem.
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>>563427956
Not everyone has as much stamina as they think though lol. Sometimes you gotta give reminders for those to pace themselves, and drink some water haha.

>>563428372
lol nah.

>>563429252
Yeah, and the last few chapters have been great actually. Lot of good characterization for a number of characters, Crow especially as it doesn't downplay how manipulative and scummy his behavior is but instead contrasts it with some genuine respect for Class VII and Elise (she even actually managed to gain the upper hand in the fight with him in the mines through a clever misdirection rather than overpowering him). It's actually just gotten to the Ymir drama CD section, with some of its own unique twists to it (Alfin and Musse joined there, with the latter having a surprisingly deep and tense conversation with Millium about Osborne's manipulations and him potentially targeting Elise).
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>>563431327
That makes it sound like you have a sister. Is she a big or little sister?
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>>563431517
I have cousins lol.
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>>563429496
>I blame this criticism on Americans who have never seen a European city like Amsterdam and think that not having skyscrapers means you're backwards
I'm not American, but pretending that Croissbell's modern cityscape and Mishelam are in any way in line with Sky's worldbuilding is ridiculous.
Liberl was supposed to be this technologically advanced nation whose progress in orbal technology secured them a tight victory over the Erebonian Empire 10 years ago. But while they're still living in the middle ages, every Crossbellan household had orbal-powered vacuum cleaners for years already?
The escalator in Zeiss is spectacular because of its magnitude and even attracts tourists, according to the local populace, but you can see all of that and even more by entering the (abandoned) Geofront or Mishelam.

>>563430095
>>563430382
That makes sense, but I'd still have liked to get a conclusion for any of the individual NPC storylines.

>>563430529
I'm looking forward to it. Erebonia was the most interesting country for me since Sky FC.
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>>563431751
>every Crossbellan household had orbal-powered vacuum cleaners for years already?
Orbal powered vacuum cleaners were in FC.
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>>563431175
But... Lloyd literally is the original harem protagonist?
Rean actually has things going for him, an interesting past, and develops as a person throughout the games.
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Wrong
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>>563431751
You haven't played Sky.
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>>563432003
>has things going for him
Plot driven gimmicks. He is the chosen one, he finds the knight, he is the coolest professor, he is the master of bullshit swords all in a few years.
>interesting past
Yeah i can see the linking park music every time he does the "I MUST CONTAIN MYSELF, MY DARK POWER CAN'T BE SEEN I AM CRINGING SOOO MUCH".
>develops as a person
His litteral theme, the "i shouldnt kill myself for others" is solved in the last fight of reverie, not even the mainline game. Four games and a timeskip rean is always the same.
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>>563429276
>Wald is an edgy delinquent who repeats the exact same character arc his underling already underwent in Trails from Zero, down to the drug he's taking.
Finally someone else who says it.
Wald sucks ass and so does Wazy for associating with him. I physically cringed every time the SSS worried about him and tried to emphasize with that literal psychopath just because he's a known character.
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>>563432318
I wish we got Protagonist Olivier. I'd even take Protagonist Kekdric if it meant that he would shape up faster.
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llm-fag is so cringe
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>Four games and a timeskip rean is always the same.

>He is the chosen one
>he finds the knight
>he is the coolest professor
>he is the master of bullshit swords
>all in a few years.
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>>563432675
He doesn't growth. Never.
He's always suicidal over others no matter how the plot goes forward.
This is the difference between a character driven plot and a plot driven character.
You can put rean cs1 doing the same things rean cs4 does adjusting the "professor thing" and the plot goes on in the same way.
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Very forced, unfunny melties.
Where is Vankidfag? His mental illness always gets a chuckle out me.
Let me summon him:
Rean? Bad. The worst.
Van? Now that’s a real MC. Haha, yes sir. No male MC before Van was done right. Van having a secret dark power and tragic past is peak kiseki writing, and the worst kiseki writing is using a katana, being traumatized over a bear and using a gay ass robot instead of BEARING THE NIGHTMARE.
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>>563432318
He is an adopted son of a Noble family who blames himself for exclusion of his parents from high society.
He's a practitioner of the Eight Leaves One Blade school of swordsmanship and trained under Yun Ka-Fai, who was introduced back in Sky FC. That's cool and interesting unless you're a foid.
There's a demonic power slumbering within him, but he tries his best to repress it and live his life normally until he finds a way to control and subdue it.
He casually plays the Lute and enjoys Snowboarding; he even built the course in Ymir together with his friends as a kid.

You may pretend that you hate all of this and prefer a bland MC like Lloyd who has nothing going for him, but that's nothing but cope.
Being interesting and layered doesn't make a character "less mature".
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>>563432654
I think you mean Kendra Lenheim
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>>563432654
In Class VII these characters would make a better protagonist
>Jusis
>Machias
>Gaius
>Alisa
>Fie
>Emma
>Juna
>Musse
>Ash
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>>563431603
The lack of a sister for me is a bit perplexing. Mine is non verbal autistic so we obviously could never really have any meaningful connection beyond blood. Sometimes I wonder how better things would be if I did have a "normal" sister.
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>>563432989
I pity you for having missed one of the greatest character evolutions in JRPG history
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>>563431327
>Not everyone has as much stamina as they think though lol. Sometimes you gotta give reminders for those to pace themselves, and drink some water haha.
Geez! you are a fiend, making girls sweat until they are dehydrated...

god they are so lucky
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>>563433184
>Van
He bears the nightmare.
>Rean
Mindbroken by a bear.

Haha, it’s like poetry; it rhymes.
I kneel, Kondom
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>>563433485
Rean and Kevin are genuinely why I'm looking forward to the Calvard games.
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>>563429276
>Seeing him be overshadowed by Randy at every opportunity just felt like a humiliation ritual at some point
I love how Garcia only cares about Randy and looks him up when you choose him for the Schwarze Auction mission.
He doesn't even consider Lloyd a threat. And I mean, Randy has better stats, orbment slots and crafts than Lloyd.
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>>563433429
Delete this this post, man. It's needless and cruel to your own sister.
Does she like Ys? You don't need words to play Ys Vs Trails together and form a meaningful connection.
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>>563433892
Bro she has never spoken a word in her life and also has no communication skills beyond screaming and half assed yes/no hand signs

Using a controller or comprehending a video game in general is probably well beyond her
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>>563433261
>interesting
It's a self insert student in a school shonen. Is interesting like a rock on the street.
>layered
You posted 3 things except the lute and the snowboard thing (one has no consequences and is never brought up in game and the second is just a minigame) which are completely plot driven. Not a single one is character driven.
The adopted son is a gimmick to justify the ogre power, he never does "noble" things acting like a noble like jusis or using his status for whatsoever, he acts like a poor as fuck bracer every single time. It's also used by the siscon fanbase. It's status as a noble is never brought up, he is just rean or team leader of class 7.
Regarding the swordmanship. He can basically alone goes toe to toe with the strongest swordsman alive without further training (example the encounter with laura's dad in fucking cs1) and litterally everyone is sucking his cock for that. Nevertheless people like laura should wipe the floor with him but we can't have this right? Down the line he goes toe to toe with people like cassius and aurelia which had tenfold times training and experience but he always fucking wins, he never loses, EVER. And he gets always praised for it. He also overcomes those titans in zero time without any specific training.
The demonic power shit (already the gimmick of his noblebirth so its litterally 2 things) it's the dark power inside every fucking self insert protag in every anime ever. It's also a plot driven gimmick. Omg he must contain himself. Every-single-time.
Rean is a blank sheet of paper, just the perfect self insert\pick your waifu. Nothing more. You can put rean in whatever jrpg story with a self insert protagonist it will fit.
You think is "layered" and "interesting" because self insert\isekai shit is the only thing you read or watch, you can't understand characters with interior conflict and growth.
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should I play Nayuta?

The original TL or the new one?
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>>563434348
Nayuta is a fun action combat game with some platforming. story is pretty cool too.
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>>563434348
ye it's a fun action adventure game but it's not Trails
don't go down the translation patch autism it's just a game it's not that deep
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>>563433429
Definitely better. But the hand you get is dealt to you, so there's no point in wondering about what ifs that'll only annoy you when there's nothing that can change it. But who knows maybe if your sister was "normal" she'd be a massive bitch. The grass is always greener.
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>>563434619
>But who knows maybe if your sister was "normal" she'd be a massive bitch.
kek she'd still have a better quality of life even if that were true. I don't really worry about it too much since there's nothing that could be done.
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Falcom?
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>>563432318
>His litteral theme, the "i shouldnt kill myself for others" is solved in the last fight of reverie, not even the mainline game. Four games and a timeskip rean is always the same.

nta, but that sounds like a nitpick and moving the goal post. So what if it was in reverie, his arc still ended. If this happened in cold steel 4, you would probably still complain that it took this long to happen. If your just going to have an hate boner 24/7 then why even discuss his character? You just sound like a cringey edgelord.
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>>563434831
see
>>563434348
>>563434567
>>563434573
right here sis
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>>563435025
awkward... also I'm a guy lol
did you enjoy Gurumin?
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>>563434957
Taking five 100 hour games to get to that state is way too long when any progress he makes along the way is constantly reset.
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>>563435202
I have not tried it
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>>563435242
I mean, I know this is an unpopular opinion but I dont think Rean actually "completed" his arc in cs2 and then it "reset" in cs3. I think cs2 was always intending to shatter rean when crow died and osborne manipulated him to helping with the annexations for his character regression.

Plus I think with cs3 and cs4 having new locations of west erebonia and a new cast(NC7), I think there is some refreshing and new things. I didnt think it was that repetetive.
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>>563434957
>like a nitpick
Man it's not a nitpick its litterally the best i can do to identify his interior conflict. Apart from that he has... nothing as a character. It's arc ended.... so far? I still have to play kai i have no idea how he acts there.
Nonetheless its FIVE fucking games to do something other mc's solved in two with way better stories without being the chosen one and the center of the universe.
It's a weak character, extremely weak. No it's not better than lloyd, he's not better than estelle.... can't speak about van since he made progresses on kuro 1 but... whatever.
Kevin in ONE game had a better arc and solution for his conflict.
Because all of the other characters were not self insert to cockstroke the ego of the player. They were parts in a story.
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>>563435543
Nuance? In /fg/? What's your fucking problem? REAN BAAAAAAAAD
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>>563435726
lainey? who?
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>>563435543
Falcom has a tendency to retread shit for no reason. A lot of Rean's issues from crow dying could have backtracked him a bit mentally sure, but why redo crossbell liberation in hajimari? And then Van seemingly making no progress with his deemun shit after Kuro 1?

I'm not really sure what falcom is thinking. Do they forget and just write the same stuff again?
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Why do they entertain a clear bad faith actor? Are their lives that empty, nothing better to do than "correct" the anon brazenly shitposting?
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>>563435543
nta, but what alfin helps him get over is the very thing he gets over (again) in reverie
and he does change from cs2 to 3, but a change in scenery and reactions does not fundamentally change his character and how it was hyperfocused on his martyr complex and feeling like an outsider or a monster that is obligated to make others happy even at his own expense

like i think the most significant change in rean is he can deal with women better after cs2
which, to be fair, i dont think any other MC/ MC-adjacent character (joshy) can really say
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>>563435947
falcom just like reheating their own nachos. mind control bullshit, dead people coming back wearing masks, ouroboros running experiments, etc
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>>563436312
Kuku... masked Anal-ace will appear in Kai 2...
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>>563435726
what is she looking up
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>>563435947
Crosbell liberation was more about introducing elysium and showcasing the potential threats of singularities. Hajimari is the end of western zemuria and the beginning of eastern zemuria. So they set up stuff for calvard as well and crossbell liberation was the means to do that.

I can understand the repetition can be annoying but I think hajimari does a good job with rean, C, lapis, the ironbloods, and ash(daydream).

>>563435551
Rean in kai doesnt have that self deprecation he has in the cold steel arc. He has his own route but its more of a swordsman journey to face off and test his mettle against yun and shizuna. Van is still the main character of that game and it focuses on his relationship with agnes and him dealing with A:D cult
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>>563436569
>how to marry a demon lord
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you can easily tell whether you're looking at a CS1 or CS2 screenshots and a CS3, CS4 or Reverie screenshot solely by looking at Rean

The same isn't true if you look at Lloyd and try to figure out if it's Zero or Azure
And with Van for Daybreak 1 or 2
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>>563436678
>He has his own route but its more of a swordsman journey to face off and test his mettle against yun and shizuna.
fvark... just remembering when Bean was on the offensive seemingly using his s-craft in the cutscene pushing back Yun

It really shows how far he got. Was Yun holding back to stall so Rean could witness the events that happened afterward? Maybe...
Still crazy I was more hyped for that moment than basically everything else in Calvard so far... haha...
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Mental exercise:
Remove rean from cold steel and instead jusis is the main character.
You apply the same valimar plotline to him, remove the dumbshit connection to osborne and it's a story about a noble boy trying to be himself and overcome his brother and father nefarious plans. (cs1-2) It's also a noble vs reformist plotline and you see how jusis starts as a shithead noble to a more mature leader. He doesn't take control of class 7 because holy shit rean is the best at everything but for his own leadership merits because there are way more powerful individuals in class 7 but zero leadership. This is also a conflict with machias which can represent this leadership trait in class 7.
In cs 3 jusis take control of his household and territory and has to think about his citizen and the impending war. We can see all the political and military tension from a noble point of view (which never happened in the series). You remove the harem, it's milium and nothing else, class 8 becomes his own team of advisors\bodyguards (basically his ironbloods) and the plot goes the same.
Now tell me with all honesty that this is not ten times better cs as we have today.
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>>563436678
>Hajimari is the end of western zemuria and the beginning of eastern zemuria.
This distinction always felt forced because Calvard was always counted as western Zemuria before.
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>>563437101
>Now tell me with all honesty that this is not ten times better cs as we have today.
we end up with the inferior cumdoll so 0/10.
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>>563436227
In cs2, alfin helps rean understand that his friends does want to see him happy and that Rean should be able to make decisions for himself too and serve himself. He does this by showcasing in Act 2 by following a third path. He even uses spirit unification.

However, he still dealt with things such as not being able to save people and his desperation for saving them with vulcan and scarlet. Everything Class 7 did was for nothing because it was just a ruse for osborne to use them. It makes sense rean went through a regression.

Hajimari isnt just about Rean learning to do things for himself and make decisions(like in cs2). Its more than that, its about finding a way to overcome his guilt for starting the twilight and doing his best to be kind for himself so he can be kind to his friends. He has an obligation to try to be better so that he doesnt make his friends suffer watching him hurt himself. Its cs2 but with more into his guilt.
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how bad will /fg/ meltdown when kai2 comes out
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>>563437361
Millium is perfect for jusis.
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>>563437396
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>>563437361
Millium was always better than Altina.
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>>563437434
I didn't say she wasn't.
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Mental exercise:
Remove estelle from sky and instead olivier is the main character.
You apply the same Gospel plotline to him, remove the dumbshit connection to bracers and it's a story about a noble prince trying to outplay the grand chancelor and be one step ahead by methodically disarming all the shady plans and keeping Liberl safe from their schemes. It's also a noble prince vs reformist chancellor plotline and you see how olivier has to conceal his identity and overcome the limitations that come with it on a foreign country. This also allows Olivier a more direct involvement and understand of Ouroboros and the problems that come from have the army rebel and stage a coup.
Now tell me with all honesty that this is not ten times better Sky then the brotherfucker romcom we got.
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I never liked millium all that much.
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>>563437396
All of the Reanspics will have constant melties no matter what happens.
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>>563437562
>olivier is the main character.
He is not from liberl idiot. That's the point of the mc, they belong in the territory.
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>>563430424
But she whined about him being muh sexist when his goals were different. The wokest moment of Sky and makes Alicia look stupid because she's worng
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>>563437141
yea I think it is western zemuria your right but I only say eastern because calvard arc discusses more stuff with east like longlai, elsaim,valis, and tharbad(still calvard). I was merely trying to split the lands that get discussed.
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>>563437485
personality wise yea. However she gets BRUTALLY diffed in looks and doesnt have as much of a character arc unfortunately.
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>>563436569
how to be a cute hag
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>>563437701
Joshua is Erebonian and Kevin is Arterian, retard
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>>563437584
Gay.
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>>563437831
Estelle is the mc of sky fucking retard, at least read the wikipedia page before posting.
Sky 3 is not even in liberl.
Fucking cs casuals you are so easily spotted.
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>>563437773
It's not really you I was thinking about but when Kondo tried to push it.
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>>563437909
teddy bears get to be hugged by cute girls all the time, how do you compete with that?
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Elaine more like Elame
Agnes more like Agnyes!
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>>563437909
She'd be pretty sexy in calvard, its a shame falcoom and their retarded writers nerfed her with tits.
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>>563438138
>Agnyes
sounds like an STD
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>>563437792
Altina is redundant when we already had a white haired, green eyed girl who was also a loli until Calvard. Millium also had a similar character arc in CS2 that Altina had in 3 and 4.
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>>563434957
I mean, we're in the third game of Calvard and now we have TWO main characters killing themselves for others lmao
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>>563437958
Where did Kevin get the recluse cube? Which church? Located in which city? Of which country?
Don't bother replying, idiot
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>>563438268
>Millium also had a similar character arc in CS2 that Altina had in 3 and 4.
I don't really remember this. Millium was always a sperg retard far as I remembered. Its been a while though haha...
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>>563435947
Van OBJECTIVELY regressed in Kuro 1, he tried to pull the exact same shit and face Grendel Zolga alone in Kuro 2.
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>>563438408
Man you are so fucking stupid but someone who just changes words in other posts for an entire day should tell you everythng about your sad life. You were never a fan, never will be, cs casual shitter.
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we never saw millium in a bunnysuit
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>it's another failed FGC player and his Indian dickriders shitting up the thread with their CS glazing episode
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>>563437831
Kevin is from the Free Cities, we don't know where exactly.
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>>563438538
Can't answer the questions, can you? Thought so, bitch.
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>>563438553
Millium is weak to anal
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>>563438268
>Altina is redundant when we already had a white haired, green eyed girl who was also a loli until Calvard.
1. Unlike Fie, Altina is still sexy and argubly a loli and at most hebe.
2. Altina's hair and Eyes just look better, no disrespect to Fie but she just isn't on the same level.

>Millium also had a similar character arc in CS2 that Altina had in 3 and 4.
You mean a completely watered down lowkey forced version of Altina's character arc? Altina had to go from borderline emotionless to understanding any emotions.
Millium just didn't understand sadness but was basically normal, albeit autistic otherwise.
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>>563438420
It came from a different place. Millium's happy go lucky personality doesn't mean she had fully developed emotions. She had to learn how to deal with negative emotions like crying.
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>>563438584
who aren't you quoting?
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>>563438663
Yeah the fact that you consider the cube part of liberl shows that you never played the game. Now be quiet and stop embarassing yourself idiot.
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>>563429276
A jealous Reanspic falseflagging as an Estelletroon wrote this post...
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>>563437141
Falcom changes their minds on a lot of things so Im not surprised. They are constantly adapting because they never thought they would get this far or it would be this many games.

I think one of the blunders is the whole cs4 to reverie transition. They shouldnt have called cs4 "end of saga" because rean and ironbloods story continues in reverie. Also the grandmaster being on the cover for reverie was a clickbait because falcom changed their minds and didnt want to reveal certain lore at this time. The whole change to "eastern" zemuria for calvard is just one of the many changes that comes with having a series this long with different cooks in the kitchen
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>>563438778
I destroyed you with one simple post which you still cannot answer.
Concession accepted.
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>returns in Kai 2
>saves the Calvard arc
>refuses to elaborate
>leaves with both Elie and Rixia as his wives
How did he do it, /fg/?!?
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>>563439017
um.. Tiosisters...?
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>>563439072
Sorry Tiosis, she's made for BJC (Big Jona Cock).
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>>563432989
>He doesn't growth. Never.
You should "growth" your understanding of the English language.
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I don't think I've ever met anyone who doesn't wanna fuck Tio, even my friend who doesn't like lolis fell for her with time.
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>>563438703
Altina has just never felt very unique so I've never cared for her.
>You mean a completely watered down lowkey forced version of Altina's character arc?
Millium got the better version of the arc. Altina regressed into a retard in CS3 from CS2 so she had to learn every single thing. Millium coming from a position of not being another stoic loli made her more unique from a Kiseki perspective and helped her not feel like she owes her entire existence to Rean like Altina.
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Tio is for the BZC(Big Zeit Cock)
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>>563437375
but the main issue is rean wanting to be a martyr and to find things like happiness as a type of luxury he is undeserving of

in cs1 elise has that same talk with him and alfin admits she is just telling him something she heard from elise, and in cs1 he still has feelings of guilt: guilt over his power he can’t control and fears he might hurt others with and guilt his family was socially outcasted amongst nobles for adopting him.
and even in reverie he is feeling guilty for things he had little control over, like killing the divine beast of earth, or being a cog in the machinations that (almost) started a war

so I don’t necessarily agree with that other anon but the same things plaguing rean’s character do so far 5 games, essentially.
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>>563439165
who???
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I'm such a sick fuck I cleared Sky FC by giving everyone White Gehenna
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>>563439209
i need to be punished for being a stinky EOP, towa-sensei...
sit on my face...
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rean has heavier burdens to bear
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>>563439234
tio...
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>>563438991
Where did Kevin get the recluse cube?
Irrelevant, the entirety of sc3 is inside the cube.
Which church?
Irrelevant, the entirety of sc3 is inside the cube.
Located in which city?
Irrelevant, the entirety of sc3 is inside the cube.
Of which country?
Irrelevant, the entirety of sc3 is inside the cube.
Now go play the game retard.
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>>563439521
nope, joshua and kevin do
hell, even van does with the demon and book of ezer
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>>563439250
I can see the argument for Millium being more unique for sure, as admittedly Altina is basically Tio and Tio is basically Renne, ect.

>Altina regressed into a retard in CS3 from CS2 so she had to learn every single thing.
I genuinely don't understand what you're even saying here. how did Altina regress?, we barely knew anything of her in CS2.
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>>563439234
Go away Roberts you fucking pedophile. We know what you did.
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>>563439569
Why do you keep replying if you can't answer the simple question?

Where does this fight take place in? Do you recognize this port? It's very famous. What city is it located in? And which country is that city in?
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phantasma isn't inside the cube. kevin has the cube on him when he is in there
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>>563439017
I will only forgive Rixia if she turns out to have been working undercover for Lloyd to take down Heiyue because fuck Heiyue and fuck Rixia's regression
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>>563439858
Calvard doesn't get a single shit right hm? I wonder why it's so defended here. Right, the bunnysuits i guess.
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>>563439972
There are people who will fight you foreve rto defend how Rixia working for Heiyue for years is not character regression
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>>563439635
I don't think CS3 Altina would have done things like the routine of accusing Rean of being a perv. She feels even more withdrawn than she does in CS2.
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>>563440136
Considering the rean dickriding i saw today i can fairly assume more than half of /fg started with cs so they couldnt know who was rixia before cs2 i guess.
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>>563439343
It is a regression. I admit his arc does take 5 games. His reverie speech is the cs2 speech, but more into his actual mental state as well not just about making decisions for himself. Think reverie is cs2 but even more defined and even more complete because he overcame even the regression from cs2.

The reason reans game takes 5 games isnt just because of a regression. Its because falcom wanted to deal with two casts OC7 and NC7 and they wanted to have two halves of erebonia locations. Plus cs2 and cs4 are bloated.
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>>563440136
>I dont want to be a Heiyue dog anymore
>stops being a Heiyue
>I'm fine being a Heiyue dog again
haha
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>>563440282
you do realize that people can start with sky and still like cs right? Your just making sky fans look like the most pretentious douches who didnt even play cs themselves lol. Sky fans are the ones who vehemently continue playing the games they hate(cs) and cause the discourse and mald in the fanbase
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>>563440279
if the only thing you can mention is Altina apparently wouldn't call Rean out for being a perv in CS3, which I dont even think is true, then I dont think you're helping your case much here.

>She feels even more withdrawn than she does in CS2.
Just not true.
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>>563440136
Because it isn't when it's being done to protect Calvard instead of a sense of duty to the Yin title. Every instance of her working with Heiyue is to help against a threat to Calvard, or where a lot of easterners are in danger.
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>>563440505
Hmmm no if you think rean is more layered and a better mc than estelle or lloyd i automatically assume that you never played those games. Or you are just an idiot.
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>>563440708
nta, and I understand Rixia wanting to protect the Easterners of Calvard, but I don't think she needs to take Heiyue's blood money to do that.
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>>563440712
I think hes good. I wouldnt call him best mc in fiction but I enjoyed his arc for the most part. Some things arent my favorite like I think hes the weakest in cs4 and kai.
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What the fuck is happening in Ored State?
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>>563440685
Joking around isn't something that CS3 Altina was really capable of.
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>>563440712
Genuinely can’t name one thing Lloyd does better than Rean or Estelle. Mid tier in all respects
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>>563440925
They're one of the biggest organisations in Calvard, and the biggest that actively look out for easterners. There's no real choice, especially for someone with Rixia's background.
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>>563441038
cock
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>>563441089
I don't think Altina was joking around during that scene, I never got that impression.
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>>563441254
>look at the shape of her eyes clearly she has no option than to be the triads' bitch
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It's funny, because Yin defending Langport *without* working for Heiyue would have been actual a strong sign of her character development that we actually saw in the previous arc.
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>>563434957
>nta, but that sounds like a nitpick and moving the goal post
That's Crosscuck in a nutshell. You can reduce any character to his most basic traits in bad faith to shit on them, but what's the point of that?
Besides, what that tard said is not even true. Rean isn't suicidal in Cold Steel I and II. He's depressed in III and questions the value of his life in IV because he's literally the cause of the Great Twilight, but the "suicidal edgelord" gimmick Crosscuck made up in his mind doesn't describe Rean as a whole whatsoever.
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>>563441364
She says she was in the scene.
https://trailsinthedatabase.com/game-scripts?fname=e7110&game_id=7#265
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>>563440282
If they started with CS, they'd have seen the Reverie scene where she calls Heiyue honorless dogs and vows vengeance on Cao for hurting Shanshan.
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>>563441601
new bogeyman dropped? wow I can't believe there are all of these people who specifically hate rean. he dindu nuffin!!!
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>>563441241
He has actual life skills outside of combat. He has a more relatable arc than "doofus goes around till plot device fall into her hands" and "he is the chosen one the world rotates around him". And before you say "KeA" i want to remember that happens in act 3 and the story of crossbell would have been the same even without lloyd finding her (except of course the azure tree, the final part of the second game). Lloyd has a background and characters that already know him, he plays his role which is clear and defined since the first steps in zero which is "detective".
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>>563441601
In CS1, hes willing to save people and not think about how certain actions would endanger him.

In CS4, hes fighting dangerously and trying to make his death mean something to atone for causing the twilight.

I would say cs1 is a smaller version, and cs4 is a ultimate version of his penchant for self sacrifice.

Reverie is Rean in a interesting position because he didnt expect to live and be here. So he has to find a way to overcome the guilt he feels that he was going to solve by dying in cs4.
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>>563441389
Except she isn't their lapdog. She's just working together with them because they have a common goal. I do wonder what causes this derangement about Rixia.
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>>563435543
>I mean, I know this is an unpopular opinion but I dont think Rean actually "completed" his arc in cs2 and then it "reset" in cs3
That's not an unpopular opinion at all, it's basically what happens, and most people understand that.
There's an unhinged shitposter in /fg/ who absolutely hates Rean and Cold Steel, so take these complaints with a grain of salt.
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>>563441038
Fufu... wouldn't you like to know?
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I started with Sky FC then played in release order
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>>563442440
Is that Lloyd and Elie's son from one of the previous loops?
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Man i just wanted calvard arc to be church vs ouroboros (and demons) while president musk goes to space. I wanted to know the misteries of the world that kept being unanswered since sky.
Instead i get migrants good whites bad, some shit about heiyue internal conflict and ehi have you missed renne? Here an entire game about her and the two filler characters from reverie, isn't that great?
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>>563440712
>if you think rean is more layered and a better mc than estelle or lloyd i automatically assume that you never played those games
What does Lloyd have going for him beyond being a cop with a dead brother?
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>>563441241
It's easier to see why he can inspire the people around him. He has a level of determination that no other Kiseki protagonist has, and he's able to pull himself back from the brink by himself. With Rean being mecha related, and Van being Kamen rider, Lloyd is the equivalent of super sentai, or a hero show. It's hard not to root for him.
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>>563442770
he's a girldad!
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>>563442686
>migrants good whites bad
This shit is a microcosm of the entire arc yet you faggots act as if the entire plot revolves around it. Even Almata outright says they don't give a fuck about it and only used the retarded wannabe nobles for their money.
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>>563442138
>He has actual life skills outside of combat.
Every MC has those, and Lloyd's aren't anything special either.
>He has a more relatable arc than "doofus goes around till plot device fall into her hands" and "he is the chosen one the world rotates around him".
Like what? You can't just say "he has a better arc" and not elaborate further. Lloyd barely changes throughout both of his games.
>Lloyd has a background and characters that already know him
Wow, just like Estelle, Kevin, Rean and Van. And how do those characters improve his role? I don't remember the mechanic girl or Oscar ever contributing to Lloyd's character progression in ways that Estelle's or Rean's acquaintances didn't.

Literally nothing you said describes why Lloyd is "better" than Estelle, Kevin or Rean.
It just sounds like he's your favorite MC because you started playing with his games.
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>>563443101
It's a message hammered in your head in 4 of the 5 zones you visit in kuro 1 and 2. That and quatre being a trans if you follow nisa fanfic.
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>>563443101
>This shit is a microcosm of the entire arc
I love how you used that word wrong and accidentally made your statement more correct
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>Heiyue controls Rixia in calvard
Fanfic
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I better not see any of you retards switching up on Crossbell when it gets their remakes and you can more easily masturbate to the characters compared to the chibi sprites.
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>>563443417
Yeah play the games. I was at the sixth paragraph just at your second point describing how wrong you are than i decided i was tired.
Do not speak of people that you met for the first time in cold steel.
This is what happens when you start with a series already started from the midpoint. You think you know and understand the characters of the games you've never played.
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>>563443715
>you can more easily masturbate to the characters compared to the chibi sprites.
You could already do that in CS3-4 and Reverie, just look at Noel's ass.
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>>563443715
Well i will masturbate to kea, tio, shirley and shizuku 3d models you can bet your ass i'll do it. But no more and no less that i am already doing it.
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>>563443838
Noel really did become the sexiest Kiseki character in Reverie. She was hypnotising...
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>>563443915
Those shorts were criminal. Jesus christ the best ass of zemuria hands down.
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>>563443754
I understand that you were bullied in school and want to self insert into a popular niceguy like Lloyd, but you will never be him.
Play the games, and maybe you can face me on eye level in a couple of years.
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>>563401740
Who says they don't? That's like, your opinion man
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>>563444125
You said "lloyd barely changes". You said that. Fucking play the games retard.
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>>563442150
>In CS1, hes willing to save people and not think about how certain actions would endanger him.
I mean, sure, he has a heroic streak like every kiseki protagonist, but he's not outright suicidal.
He's lost and planning to pursue a career in the military, hence his enrollment in Thors, but finds a path for himself alongside his classmates that lets him develop into a person who can proudly stand for his beliefs.
His behavior in CS1 and during the civil war aren't comparable to his self loathing after being forced to do Osborne's dirty work during the Crossbell annexation and the Northern War he displays in CS3.
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>>563444290
Lloyd changes from a cop who does Bracer work and wants to change Crossbell for the better into a cop who does Bracer work and wants to change Crossbell for the better (with an adopted daughter).
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>>563444458
>but he's not outright suicidal.
He thinks so little of himself that he sacrificed himself in Chapter 2 to save the day after Jusis and Machias' bickering held things back. His ultimate plan for after Thors that he would have followed in the timeline where he's not a part of Class VII would have been to become a soldier and distance himself from everyone.
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>>563444645
Rean changes from a depressed, suicidal student with the burden of demonic powers and an army of women lusting for him to bear to a depressed, suicidal instructor with the burden of demonic powers to bear and an army of women lusting for him (his students included).
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>>563444786
>He thinks so little of himself that he sacrificed himself in Chapter 2 to save the day after Jusis and Machias' bickering held things back
That's the innate heroic streak any kiseki protagonist possesses. Lloyd is about to discard his own life in the prologue of Zero when the SSS is attacked by a mob of bat monsters before Arios saves them.
I wouldn't call Lloyd suicidal, though.
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>>563444458
>he's not outright suicidal
He litterally tries to kill himself blowing up with valimar in the end of cs4 and trying to kill himself with dark rean in reverie.
I mean.... what the fuck.
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>>563445114
>In CS1
Are you illiterate?
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>>563444458
Hes not suicidal, but he does endanger his life and doesnt think about the ramifications of himself when it comes to helping others.

His past and his troubles he causes for elise and family makes him feel so awful, that serving others and pleasing them is how he feels he can make it up.

CS3 ending is all his fears being culminated into a single moment. Its his worst moment of his life even worse than him killing the bears to save elise.
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seeing this would had cured my depression
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>>563445060
With Rean it's all in the context of the game, where he puts no value in his own life and his own happiness which is also why he's a doormat that does student council work.
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>>563445562
Still my favorite design, although her cute CSIV cape comes close.
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>>563443754
So you can't explain why Lloyd is better written after all?
That's disappointing after you were quick to point out Rean's "flaws" lol.

I've played all of the games starting with Sky FC until Kai, and Rean is far better developed than Lloyd.
Estelle still beats both of them though.
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>>563445859
i want to see it in calvard engine
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Daily reminder I won and /fg/ lost
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>>563446360
Estelle...
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>>563446278
UOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
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>>563446471
i wonder what alberich's thought process was when he added that tail to her outfit
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>>563446660
It's cute, and cuteness will blind her opponent in battle.
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do you think they'll remake CS1 and 2? I can see it as some sort of anniversary thing at least.
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>>563292720
>Shizuna will never sit on you
Why live?
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>>563446660
Franz's consciousness slipping in, wanting to make his artificial daughteru look cute as hell.
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>>563447075
Whats this body language?
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>>563446435
But Estelle didn't win shit besides being the most censored Kiseki game with Sky demake
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>>563447003
>>563446471
Altina would get censored to hell, I'm good.
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>>563447568
She's inviting you (Rean) to enter through her open fly.
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>>563447568
cum with me if you want to live
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>>563447741
Rean got little brother zone’d.
She’s Vanbrained.
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>>563447664
>Imagine playing the censored sloppa and not having the estelle figure.
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>>563447796
H-hot
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>>563444786
How many heroes in Trails have the "Everyone! Run away! I'll hold this *extremely powerful monster* back!" moments?



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