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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #9232 - Lady's of G.U.N Edition

==NEWS==
>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversary
https://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary
>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027
https://x.com/SonicMovie

==Comic Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog #86 - 22 April 2026
DC x Sonic the Hedgehog: Metal Legion #1 - 06 May 2026
DC x Sonic the Hedgehog: Metal Legion #2 - 03 June 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #87 - 10 June 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #88 - 24 June 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog x Godzilla #1 - Summer 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog: 35th Anniversary Special - 15 December 2026

==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>Milestone pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic comic scans:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics
>Sonic shows:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows
>SAGE
https://sagexpo.org/
>SHC
https://shc.zone/
>#10000 Project
https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4r
>/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
>/sthg/ CyTube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixel World:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

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>>563306253
ay yo what Rouge doin
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He's so cute!
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>>563306253
ugh, hags.
Don't let Sonic make anymore OPs.
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>>563306242
That's clearly just a dog. Get your eyes checked.
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>>563300379
Miles Prower (aged 8), an amber-furred, two-tailed male fox known for his exemplary mechanic skills and adventures with the world-trolling hero Sonic the hedgehog, was found dead off the coast of Emerald Hill Zone yesterday afternoon. Paramedics were called on the scene by witness Sally Acorn, a local newscaster who had arrived to report on the influx of beached whales believed to be the result of an oil spill several zones over. Rescuscitation was unsucessful; the cause of death was said to be drowning. Although foul play has not yet been ruled out, experts say that there appear to be no signs of a struggle. It is not presently known at this time what Prower was doing in the water. "It just don't make a lick of sense," says one investigator. "The kid even had his own sub, so he must've been lured there in a hurry. He was so smart, so young... such a waste. If you have any information that would help this case, please contact us at the Chaotix Detective Agency."
Prower leaves behind machine workshops and an enduring legacy.
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>>563306387
Tailspedo...
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So only the Spinball cast can potentially be used? No SatAM? Just Spinball?
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>>563306460
Ooc Tails is a great swimmer
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>>563306460
I'm guessing this is British Sally in this instances.
Also Imagine the butthurt if Sega said they were gonna make Sally cannon but it turned out to be the fleetway version? The idea is already giving my a massive stiffy
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>>563306814
>It's just Ricky in a reporter outfit
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>>563306814
I like sally. i wouldn't mind the fleetway version
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>>563306814
They can't use Fleetway OCs since they're owned by the creators. Even though this character is called Sally Acorn, parts of her may be creator-owned. Same with Johnny and Porker.
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Romhack slop is canon but not Blade of Courage
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Trust the science
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What if Tails was a mad scientist archetype like Dr. Eggman?
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I'll show you what real evil is!
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>>563307097
ok CHRIS of sonic CHANnel
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>>563306849
>"Mobini" are the Sega-designated animal friends, if he's not one of them then he's gotta be a mobian.
>Mobini
>Mobian
>SEGA-designated
Why lie?
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>>563307386
They couldn't give Blaze a female villain?
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>>563307386
Somehow a shittier game than advance is getting more recognition because....a "strong female" is in it
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>>563306814
Funny how the Brits made Sally April O'Neal and the Americans made her a gay princess.
>oi muh queen
Monarchy is gay and inherently antiwind, Sonic would fuck Sally the reporter not Sally the royal.
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>>563306953
Oh, fuck, sexy
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>EGGGMANNNNN...
>I said my Sword was a tool of Justice
>Not used in Anger
>Not used for vengeance
>But now, Now i'm not so sure,
>And Besides, This isn't my Sword
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>>563307662
He wouldn't serve the monarchy but he'd still save the princess who's in trouble.
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>>563307149
You'll stop at nothing to discover anything, that's lunacy, but it's also what defines a scientist
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>>563307579
Merlina would've been perfect. Especially now knowing the Sol Empire is European-based. She also wears purple, just as both Sonic and Eggman wear red.
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>>563307737
How can something sound so cheesy yet so cool at the same time?
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>>563307959
>Especially now knowing the Sol Empire is European-based
It's indian/ Australian
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>>563306953
Well yeah, Sally only exists because of Sega's botched localization of early Sonic.
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Give me a new Sonic TV show already
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>>563308314
>botched
More like deliberately sabotaged.
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Mania was westie colonization
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>>563307224
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>>563308368
If it's not in the style of the Riders opening animation, or the CrossWorlds animation, I don't want it
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>>563308139
Dude, did you see her town streets, Her kingdom is Cleary Ottoman inspired, Even if it's infested with Australian wildlife.
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>>563306592
Does Knuckles like being carried bridal style?
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>>563308368
Give me a Sonic porno
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>>563308590
Sonic Channel is the true soul of this series now.
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>>563308828
they both do...
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>>563308474
As much as I want a entire Sonic show animated by Marza. It would be way too fucking expensive to be worth it.
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>>563308452
They all look so happy
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>>563308368
Shonen anime starting from Sonic 2 onward where Tails is the relatable protag who grows and Sonic's the cool mentor that everyone likes better. CD can be a prequel movie.
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>>563308828
No.
I do, however.
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>>563309371
This series will never be Gurren Lagann
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>>563309157
Gotta make it a movie to sell.
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>>563309394
can sonic carry someone who is over 250lbs?
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The kinds of people IDW appeals to
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>>563309157
Get me the guys who made https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ocBa8jTXUA
They don't seem to be doing much else and it'd be sick
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>>563309608
I'M 180!
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>>563309513
You could always make a 90 minute pilot movie to promote the series and then make an actual series around it. Worked for clone wars and the how to train your dragon series.
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>>563308590
>It's british
>It's romanian
>it's ottoman
It's indian, first contracted first made as indian, that's her debut that's her main creation motive, it's funny how Blazefags are always ready to contradict themselves and sacrifice anything for the sake of relevance as if it's the fountain of youth to them.
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>>563309814
i could pick you up and throw you lad
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>>563308590
This is the third fucking time her castle changed, what it change a fourth time for how much they give a fuck about her
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>>563309853
The Sol kingdom can't be India cause there's not enough shit on the streets. Not to mention that pic is clearly AI.
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>>563306460
I have a suspect in mind. Why -would- she not want this incriminating photo to be spread around?
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>>563309682
The lack of talent on display....
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>>563308590
>Ottoman
Shit is not different from Indian at all with these domes, you can say you're in denial of it being Indian.
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>>563309853
Or maybe she's just Indian. Why does everything have to be Indian when it could just as easily just be her?
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Sega doesn't care what nation the Sol kingdom is based on.
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>>563310057
Blaze is enough shit to fill her entire world
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>>563309394
me but I want Shadow to carry me instead
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>>563310279
>the Sol kingdom is based on.
I don't think they even remember
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>>563310279
Shhh, they want to rehash another deadend conversation to keep this place alive somehow.
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i'm too fat to get carried
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>>563310343
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Douge
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>>563310037
>This is the third fucking time her castle changed
List them.
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>>563310472
Krack...
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Cream the Rabbit.
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>>563310629
Rush adventure
IDW
Sonic channel
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>>563310672
KEK
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>>563310480
i'm Maria though
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>>563310725
>Rush Adventure
We never see it.
>IDW
>Sonic channel
Same castle.
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*hides your post*
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>>563308368
Origin anime loosely based of the 91 manga with some minor elements/ characters taken from extended universe stuff, like underground and Fleetways Sonic the comic as well as the ova. As well as some cut stuff like Sonic's band.
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The only problem I have with IDW is that there's no timeskips between each arc so it feels like one ongoing story which just doesn't fit for Sonic.
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>>563311017
>We never see it.
Different interior colors
>Same castle.
One is on water, one is on land
Also it is worth mentioning that it was quickly doodled and thrown out without any second thought planning or consideration because they didn't even care.
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>>563311156
We finally got rid of Archie and now you want to make new fans more confused again?
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>>563311319
It's especially stupid when the comic was meant to fill the gaps between games.
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>>563310124
A-HA!
Of course the love interest is always a suspect!
Thanks, Anonymous Tipster!
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>>563311470
new fans don't bother to learn anyway, let them be
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>>563311156
Kys westie
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>>563311513
Yeah it's dumb. It kills the whole "long time no see" thing which was honestly really fun. Now we "know" that the characters spent all the time between Forces and Frontiers at the restoration together.
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>>563311637
Much like Transformers, The Sonic series has always been somewhat cross Pacific.
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>>563306594
>Why is that man consuming IDW, even though he hates it
>That's not any man, that there is Slashy
>NO I NEED TO READ EVERY ISSUE AND MAKE IT MY WHOLE LIFE TO KEEP READING AND WATCHING VIDEOS BASHING IDW EVEN THOUGH I KNOW I HATE IT I NEED TO HEAR OTHERS SAY THEY HATE IT AND THEN I NEED TO GO ON TWITTER AND SPEND MY WHOLE LIFE TALKING ABOUT IT BUT NO-ONE LISTENS TO ME THERE SO I'LL GO ON 4CHAN WHERE I CAN REPLY TO MYSELF AND PRETEND I AM AMONG LIKE MINDED INDIVIDUALS AND NOT CLINICALLY INSANE
>Why don't you read something you like?
>NO I NEED TO READ EVERY ISSUE AND MAKE IT MY WHOLE LIFE TO KEEP READING AND WATCHING VIDEOS BASHING -
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>>563311882
hello two-face
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>>563311643
>It kills the whole "long time no see" thing which was honestly really fun
That line only ever made sense in the first Adventure. Every other game it feels more like an in joke about the gap between releases, Since there's no way most of these games are anything more than a few weeks apart at best.
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>>563306367
sexual harassment
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>>563311882
Bro got the genetic Dreamswork face
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>>563311643
The series should just run on Rayman rules that ST sorta did with NiGHTS the world is dreamt up by a deitied being and all the characters are roles that resurface every thousand or so years whenever a bad dream happens.
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>>563312050
>there's no way most of these games are anything more than a few weeks apart at best.
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>>563311319
>>563311513
>>563311643
Just another reason to burn these shitty ass comics
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I don't want to hate Archie but I'm starting to actually believe it impaired peoples ability to understand these characters. Someone will say something that is blatantly wrong about Sonic or the world of the games and then it turns out to be an Archie fan who just never questioned their canon or is really obsessed with shipping. I'm conflicted because if I believe it then I sound like that one guy who's furious all the time about "the West".
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Can't wait for the future games to gaslight everyone into believing Amy never loved Sonic. Despite decades of evidence that she does.
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>>563312815
And the movies? who are western like SatAM?
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>>563312767
Whether or not Archie existed you still would've had these same people severely misunderstanding the characters even at a base level, they'd only use another licensed sonic piece of media to base their delusions on
Believe it or not there are people who like Archie and aren't complete retards, only reason you don't see them is because they aren't on /sthg/ talking shit and simply enjoying themselves in silence
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>>563312815
Lost World literally has Amy say that she never said she loved Sonic
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>>563312853
Zavok, Blaze, Tails and Sally.
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>>563313000
Maybe what she was going to say was that she left the oven on?
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>>563313093
Through the Silver-verse
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>>563312994
>Believe it or not there are people who like Archie and aren't complete retards, only reason you don't see them is because they aren't on /sthg/ talking shit and simply enjoying themselves in silence
sthg is not the place to find sane people!
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>>563313318
yea
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Amy was going to tell Sonic that she was pregnant with his child.
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>>563313392
Dcfags believe he clapped her cheeks btw
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You know
Sonic lacks some Ben-10, Green Lantern, Tech-Jacket, Blue Beetle type of character
Something falls on Mobius and it makes someone a hero
But Sonic doesn't have any cosmic world-building, aside from Colours sooooo
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>>563311319
There are timeskips but they are subtle and usually retroactive and unplanned. Lanolin's Diamond Cutters trained for a few months, which includes the duration of the time Sonic and friends experienced Frontiers.
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>>563311470
Not when the basic idea is to reboot them to better fit into this show's world. Honestly though, the only characters that would get rebooted/ Retconned to a significant degree would be Sonic's mother/ Siblings from underground and Uncle Chuck, cause I like him. The other extended universe characters would mostly be limited to cameos. Except the band, who would be major side characters
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>>563310880
>That's something fans made up
That's something Yuji Naka literally said
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>>563313496
Is that basically what the Phantom Ruby does for Infinite
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>>563313496
Whisper?
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>>563311323
>One is on water, one is on land
Anon I think you might be dumb, the sonic channel picture is from the back of the castle. The start of the land that you can see in the background of the pic. In IDW we see the front of it with the bridge over the water. And it still has the brick wall around it. I don't what narrative you're trying to push, but Hoshino himself concepted the designs for the castle with IDW.
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>>563313510
Aww, Jewel looks cute here. I wanna give the bug a hug and fug
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I think characters like Archienic, IDWnic, Satamnic, Movienic, and Fleetwaynic should exist inside the game universe in order to spell out that Sonic is not like them
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>>563313572
>Except the band, who would be major side characters
I get Vector, but the other guys are meh.
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>>563313779
>Archienic, IDWnic, Satamnic, Movienic, and Fleetwaynic
Scourge, Manic, Tania, Sonia, and Surge!
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>>563313940
Nah
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https://x.com/KingpinThawne/status/2042991469120631240
Windfags finally broke this guy. I hope he's alright honestly.
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>>563313628
>the sonic channel picture is from the back of the castle
It's the same fucking form are you retarded?
>but Hoshino himself concepted the designs for the castle with IDW
As creators of the fucking Comic panel, they said they needed permission to draw her castle, permission was the only thing Hoshino contributed with, the rest was trying to quickly fill a void of a lore that they know it will never be used. the narrative i'm trying to push is to not being delusional and being aware that everything about Blaze is a failure that is not salvageable
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>>563314119
>taking internet seriously
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>>563314119
Are you perpetually stalking people on Twitter?
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>>563314119
Can you fuck off with this normie drama no one gives a shit about?
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>>563314256
>It's the same fucking form
Oh so it does look the same then? You're more inconsistent than the castle you're complaining about.
>everything about Blaze is a failure that is not salvageable
So this is about pushing an agenda and not having a legitimate complaint, very well. Good day
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If you look hard enough you can find a Sonic fan utterly convinced that Shadow's true love is Bunnie Rabbot. There's a Sonic fan for every opinion.
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>>563313812
The idea I have is the band would become Nicky's major friend group after Vector saves him from getting his ass kicked by Anton. With said band teaching him actual confidence as well how to play the Guitar, with them also interacting with Nicky's siblings and Amy for some of the adventures.
Also before the third act, Most of the Band leaves the island, Leaving us with just Nicky and Vector for the final shonen battle.
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that fucking bird that i hate shitted on my window again
after i washed my car on thursday
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>>563314525
Sally is from Satam not Archie
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There are anons ITT that are legitimately scared of this raccoon gaining relevance
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>>563313692
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>>563314493
>Oh so it does look the same then? You're more inconsistent than the castle you're complaining about.
Nice changing goal post retard, this is what i'm talking about not being delusional, you simply can't accept the truth of what's happening in front of you, the very reason i will forever hate Blaze and her shitty excuses of writing.
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>>563314545
Yeah nah. I'm not good with portraying Sonic that way. I'd rather we start with Sonic as the cool mentor guy with Tails and Amy's POVs and follow the story that way.
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>>563314709
Or they just still hate her for being the most annoying little shit still
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>>563309957
Strong boys
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>>563314619
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Xk3MDR28uw
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>>563314683
The comic was based on SatAM. It was made to promote both it and the games. SatAM Sally's a bobtail squirrel with a fox father.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blhj8TRLpDI The Magic of Sonic's 90s Aesthetic
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>>563314748
>Nice changing goal post retard
The only retard here is you because it's still clearly supposed to be the back of the castle, hence why there's no entrance and the town is in the background in front of the castle. They just didn't think to flip the design when referencing the look in idw. In any case, you've already conceded your argument by fully admitting it looks the same after making a retarded statement
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>>563314979
This is like using Sonic X to say Cream is a poor flyer
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>>563311515
I'm devastated. My boyfriend is dead. I need space to grieve.
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>>563314903
Being annoying isn't an excuse to get rid of or downplay a character anymore
>Amy
>Big
>All of the zeti
>IDW ocs
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It's funny how much arguments happen over the Archie characterization when Ken admits openly in the comic question area that Sega of Japan refuses to give them any important details from Sonic 1 all the way to Shadow the Hedgehog. What were they supposed to do, read Yuji Naka's brain?
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>>563314517
>you can find a Sonic fan utterly convinced that Shadow's true love is Bunnie Rabbot
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>>563307620
>advance
Are you by chance the creamfag that seethes about Marine
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>>563315059
Ben Hurst made her a squirrel. A fox father and a squirrel mother. That chipmunk shit's an Archie original.
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I think aosth, satam, underground, archie, fleetway, boom, idw, movie, prime fags should be dragged and shot.
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>>563315280
I agree but it will continue as long as fans (and Ian) unironically use Archie as reference for what the games are like.
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>>563314785
>I'd rather we start with Sonic as the cool mentor guy with Tails and Amy's POVs and follow the story that way
Outside of the pov shit, That's basically almost every mainline Sonic story ever, So why bother to make a show out of it. And just a fyi, Sonic will never be your big brother.
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>>563315376
See? This is why I will never be upset at fans who are "wrong about the characters". Every opinion exists somewhere.
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>>563315546
Get raped
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>>563315603
>>563315546
I literally wouldn't mind westfags if they ever showed the ability to separate the shitty adaptations from the games
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There are no good justifications to keep Marine from coming back and being part of the relevant cast. The only people that don't want her are
>silvazefags scared of Blaze not being tied down to 06 and their boytoy
>creamfags who feel threatened by not having the "tails" position to leech off both Amy and Blaze
>anti-blazefags who don't want Blaze having a fleshed out cast gaining more relevancy
>Ian Flynn who shits on every game female that isnt one of his heckin girlboss lesbians
She's too powerful
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>>563315546
This but it's "Nicky," "manga," X and Modernslop.

>>563315584
Cute noodle.
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>>563315646
>That's basically almost every mainline Sonic story ever, So why bother to make a show out of it.
To have that format as a show.
>just a fyi, Sonic will never be your big brother.
Sonic isn't real, dude. Why write him as the relatable underdog when we have other characters that were created to fill that role?
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I don't trust people who think Sonic X is in-character
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>>563315806
Sorry anon, there was no separation back when the franchise was good. The use of the word "canon" is a nuSonic invention to try and denigrate the original Sonic material in favor of WHOA NO IN FLIGHT MOVIE OR ANYTHING I'M OUTTA HERE!!!
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>>563315993
It is.
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>>563316036
We literally just got resurfaced character descriptions that confirm the het Sonic had a Japanese characterizarion they Americans deliberately ignored.
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>>563315881
Can we admit that all spin off media for this series is somewhat shit, with the possible exception of the ova.
Hell the story's for the actual games hasn't been good since Black Knight with the gameplay's being mostly mid since Shadow.
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>>563315263
Then what's THIS photo about??
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>>563316140
You're a retard if you think Sonic X is characterized accurately for anyone in that show. None of the game characters are in-character. It is just as bad as IDW and Archie. Whenever you people treat it like the source I think you're lower intelligence.
>>563316264
Thank you.
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>>563314979
Ben didn't like SoA's bible. so he made his own lore in SatAM and made his own Sally
And he cooked quite well
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>>563315530
She can be a fox and it'll still work because having a nub for a tail is a common birth defect for these animals.
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Just ban the westfaggots, retarded jannies
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>>563316264
This desu
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>>563316410
>None of the game characters are in-character
They are though.
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>>563316140
X Sonic is the most bland and cutesy version of the character. OVA Sonic had the common courtesy to sometimes be a dick, By contrast X Sonic feels fucking edgeless
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>>563316691
He's Game Sonic toned down for the Doraemon audience. He's supposed to be edgeless.
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Sonic X is ooc. Xfags are becoming just as annoying as Satamfags if not worse.
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>>563316374
>zooey killed tails so she can hog his potted alien plant to herself
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Friendly reminder that Original Sonic (known to zoomers as "Western Sonic") is an essential part of 4chan culture. nuSonic (known to zoomers as "Modern Sonic," "Windnic," "Canon Japanese Sonic" etc) is essential Snapcube zoomercore and the domain of redditors.
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>>563316264
Why does OVA get an exception? It was a pilot with a barely coherent plot.
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Sonic X has Sonic openly unbothered about being taken to Prison Island. The show is ooc.
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>>563317084
Because it's Japanese. Japanese fanfic that writes out Amy and replaces her with an OC catgirl princess GOOD. Sally Acorn BAD because wh*te people were involved!
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>>563316691
Modern Sonic is less of a dick and more amicable compared to Classic Sonic.
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Sonic X is the best product from this franchise and I love it and I will always defend it.
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if bottom is true then pre reboot still lives on despite the super shittyness wave. through Ken Penders...
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>>563317319
This entire sequence misconstrued a cutscene from the games. Sonic X is literally just as bad as Archie.
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>>563316530
Interesting how Fleetway pretty much ran with his idea but used SoA's characters instead of the SatAM ones.
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>>563306814
>>563306953
>>563307662
I like this different Sally character a lot, but I guess she doesn't have much fanart?
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>>563317228
Amy's the President's daughter? Amy's dad is human?
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>>563317062
Thanks, Flynn...
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>>563306814
SatAM pilot Sally was in spinball so they are more likely to use that if they are not going with 2013 archie design and background
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>>563317916
I'd make her red to not step on Amy's toes.
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>>563318169
That's by Ben Bates btw.
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>>563317631
She has almost no fanart
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>>563317084
It mostly got the vibe right for the Characters, Even if it's originals like Sara were somewhat unnecessary. Plus I kind of like the world it introduces. If it actually got picked up for a TV anime, it's possible it would have turned to shit, for one reason or another, But as an proof of concept, it's alright.
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>>563318546
sucks ass, will kill myself now
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Sex with Surge feels like taking off your sweater but 10 times more intense
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>>563318169
the folks at sega of japan are obsessed with the "brand" and "recognizability". I theorize they don't want to bother with these characters for now because none of them are recognizable in japan. archie and satam are inaccessible in japan due to the language, lack of marketing and general lack of interest. and they don't want an american sonic in america and a japanese sonic in japan to avoid "confusion".
but if they decide to change their mind, they will use the more recognizable version of Sally.
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>>563318546
Here's the famous Bigdad image.
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>>563318702
I don't see Surge there
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>>563318769
>they will use the more recognizable version of Sally.
The brown one? Nah, she doesn't work with the others.
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>>563318701
You shouldn't kill yourself
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>>563318850
2013 archie < spinball pink sally < maybe satam sally
in that order
>>563317916
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>>563317916
>Sally
>Rotor
>Bunnie
>Muttski
How does this team work?
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>>563318932
I will keep living... for British Sally
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>>563318769
I still think they should release a omnibus of all their spin off media from the 90s and 00s. I would pay good money for a Fleetway pack or a 91 manga pack. Granted it would require a team in Sega to weed out the legal shit, But I think fans would buy it.
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>>563308452
>>563309193
Schizover
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Surge is the only live interest that makes sense for canon Sonic Amy sucks.
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>>563319041
>Granted it would require a team in Sega to weed out the legal shit
they got a lore team
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>>563318949
The brown's ugly, no. Orange or red works best.
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>>563312815
And then nu Amy-liking morons are going to justify by saying that Amy is having character development and is doing new things that don't involve Sonic
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>>563317631
Fleetway's Sally Acorn was a really bit part who soon got overshadowed by Johnny Lightfoot and Porker Lewis, then the writers tried to bring her back as a reporter after Amy Rose was introduced but then she stopped appearing altogether once Shortfuse the Cybernik (another squirrel) came into the picture.
By the way, Fleetway basically went back to basics with the freedom fighters. The Archie/SatAM group were pretty transformative OCs that bear little resemblance to their original counterparts (the small captured animals) whereas Fleetway stuck closer design-wise. That's why Fleetway's Sally looks a lot like a Ricky -- that was even Ricky's early name in the official UK Stay Sonic guide.
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>>563319041
>Granted it would require a team in Sega to weed out the legal shit
You'd have to edit the fuck out of it to reprint it.
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OVA actually sucks
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>>563319485
classicfag who only likes sonic 1 and sonic 4...
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>>563319449
>You'd have to edit the fuck out of it to reprint it
Ok why? Surely it would make more sense to just talk to the company's that own the rights to the required property's and pay royalty's when required.
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Longclaw is the best lore decision SOA ever made fight me
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>>563319681
>pay royalty's when required
That's the thing. They don't want to.
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>>563319681
>just talk to the company's that own the rights
Characters like Tekno and Ebony are owned by their creators. Even Johnny and Porker have legal shenanigans attached since their characterizations make them different enough and SEGA hasn't used those names in anything since forever. You'd have to talk a number of people and that's just too much a hassle for little gain.
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>>563319725
Would've been cool for her to be Babylonian.
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shadamy!
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>>563319449
>You'd have to edit the fuck out of it to reprint it.
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>>563315584
>>563319649
Truly made for each other
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Minails is cute and I'm tired of pretending
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So Sally is either a squirrel with a short tail or a fox with a short tail.
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>>563320331
>editfag is a lore team employee
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>>563320005
>Characters like Tekno and Ebony are owned by their creators. Even Johnny and Porker have legal shenanigans attached since their characterizations make them different enough
One Solution would be to give them a small percentage of sales for any new release of any legacy media, since most of these books couldn't even be directly published anyway, even if Sega wanted to.
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Let me guess you think the lotr movies are good, side media faggot?
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>>563306814
>>563307662
>>563317631
>>563318546
Despite being a different character, this is what a game version of Sally would look like. Having her whole face be cream colored and her "hair" being tufts of fur
I know it's basically just Ricky but if you want your Sonic character to have their muzzle color around their eyes then just have their whole face be muzzle colored, basically like Mickey Mouse
Sonic himself is basically a "what if scenario" what if Disney kept Mickey's eyes as a mono eye instead of having his eyes be skin and his black pupils be the eyes like modern Mickey's design. Since originally Mickey eye's was a mono eye but the black and white colors made his eyes and muzzle both the same color
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>>563320648
and apparently not a hybrid
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>>563317418
>Archiefags will have to suck up to Penders for more content despite seeing the man as the devil.
Just to think they couldn't fall harder.
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>>563319449
>>563320331
Or Sega could just taken Penders to court like they should've all those years ago. The only reason the Pendering even happened was cause they let Archie deal with it while doing their best to stay out of it.
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Tails learning engineering from Sally
Tails learning trade skills from Rotor
Tails building his own advanced mecha later
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>>563320915
>I know it's basically just Ricky
I think this is fine since Storm is an albatross and you see literal albatrosses in the games
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>>563320707
>One Solution would be to give them a small percentage of sales for any new release of any legacy media
Why the fuck would they do that?
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>>563321054
>Tails learning engineering from Sally
Isn't this canon in Satam?
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>>563318850
The primary colors of the idw cast are light grey, blueish grey, dark grey, off yellow, off white and brown, Sally acorn can get away with being chestnut colored
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Johnny transitioned to Bunnie
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>>563321342
>light grey, blueish grey, dark grey, off yellow, off white and brown
Ew. Why all the greys and browns? Why are western made characters always like this?
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>>563321342
they are all ugly and unfitting
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>>563321308
Tails hacks into a gate and he said Sally taught him how to do it.
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>>563321614
I don't know how gamefags feel about it but I think that's a cute way to introduce Tails being smart
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>>563321342
I'd take the orange over the brown everytime.
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>>563321482
I am quite sure Ian would have introduced Johnny as a member of the Rabbot clan in reboot archie
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Shadria...wonned...!
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>>563321162
Cause it would be considerably easer then offering each of them a single time payment and less likely to bite them up the ass down the line.
Of Couse I am talking about sega, the same company that shafted Johnny Gioeli over what would be pocket change for them. So maybe expecting any business sense other than everything for nothing is greatly naive.
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1990s side media
>Sonic and friends live with some OCs on a radical reinterpretation of "South Island".

2020s side media
>Sonic and friends live with some OCs on a radical reinterpretation of "Green Hill Zone".

Why is one okay, but the other isn't?
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>>563321817
Shadow's wife (left)
Sonic's wife (right)
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>>563320993
When are the rest of these getting posted? I like reading them
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>>563321887
Soul vs soulless.
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Shadow says: Going on a wellness walk with by boyfriends Scooby and Crash
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>>563321887
Because South Island is a big location while green hill is the equivalent of like one grasslands.
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>>563321964
I'm Shadow's wife. Give the pink thing to Sonic and Thanos snap the orange thing or give her to Monkey Khan.
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>>563321964
Shadamy is partially responsible for the retarded "Amy should move on" movement in the fandom dismantling her character.
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>>563321495
I don't get it either, Sonic characters can be whatever color you want them to be. You can make them look as visually appealing as you want
Surge and Kit are the only IDW characters that got that got this right
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>>563322301
>westfags insisting that wanting sonic to be in character is bad again
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>>563322161
Shadow marries the pink thing. Sonic marries the orange thing, you go be with monkey khan
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>>563322361
Never said that.
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>>563322337
Surge is ugly and Paps doesn't understand satisfying color schemes. Canon cast looks far better.
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>>563321342
>ff yellow, off white and brown
I think it's pretty interesting that the IDW cast seems to follow the design methodology of Dodan-pa.
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>>563322453
It's literally always WAAAH WHY WONT YOU LET US FUCK UP SONIC'S PERSONALITY WITH SHIPPING!
>>563322382
Retards
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>>563322606
You're now making things up on your head.
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>>563322198
When Shadamy fangirls say Shadamy has chemistry, they mean Shadamy has chemistry only in their fan works because you have to make both Shadow and Amy out of character in order for it to look good. The fangirls also try to justify Shadamy by claiming that Shadow would treat Amy better even though he clearly isn't interested in romance
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>>563322606
picrel is ic
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>>563322081
In the Modern dimension, Green Hill is the whole island.
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>>563322382
But I don't want to be with Monkey Khan. You be with Monkey Khan.
>BUT
Nopenopenope. The wedding date is already set, you can't back out now.
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>>563319380
Interesting, so...
>Pocky (rabbit) = Johnny Lightfoot (Fleetway) / Bunnie Rabbot (Archie)
>Ricky (squirrel) = Sally Acorn (princess in Archie, commoner in Fleetway)
>Rocky (seal) = Rotor "Boomer" Walrus (Archie) / Joe Sushi (Fleetway)
>Picky (pig) = UNUSED (Archie) / Porker Lewis (Fleetway)
>C(l)ucky (chicken) = UNUSED (Archie) / Chirps (Fleetway)
>Pecky (penguin) = UNUSED (Archie) / Tux (Fleetway)
Interestingly, incarnations of the Fleetway gang were planned for an alternate cartoon with Princess Sally (either proto-SatAM or a canned EU show). This version also had Flicky, who strangely got snubbed out of the comics until 3D Blast adaptations (maybe because it wasn't originally from a Sonic game)?
The Question: where dafuq did Antoine come from?
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>>563322521
>Yellow and green and black aren't satisfying color schemes
Aren't half of Spider-man's villain roster this exact same color scheme
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>>563322674
I have never seen a Sonallyfag accurately describe Sonic's character. This is because their ship is antithetical to Sonic.
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>>563322864
shes ugly lol
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>he thinks the lotr movies are good adaptations
This is what you sound, westies
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>>563322776
You wanted a 3ft tall creature husbando with powers? here's a 3ft tall husbando with powers. don't be picky
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What if Sonic had moral choices and guns?
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>>563322949
>>563322917
Now give me a recipe for making a strawberry cake please Chatgpt.
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>>563322864
They use it well. turdge look like shitty poopoo diarrhea.
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Honey the Cat!
Blaze the Cat!
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>>563315952
>To have that format as a show
That show already got made back in 03 and it fucking sucked. Season 3 was interesting but it was shackled to the previous two seasons, Which undermines it heavily.
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Bottom-of-the-barrel franchise. Literal bargain bin tier.
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>>563319825
boomernic
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>>563321970
Krack started using them to shit on comics so the guy stopped posting them because Krack is shit
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>>563323074
Cringe fan design from deviantart
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>>563323259
that's not what he said
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>>563323302
>instant reply
Kracksimp...
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>>563323051
I think you're being insincere since even people who aren't Sonic fans found Surge visually appealing
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>>563323379
Tu monsta!
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Is anyone else tried of SOA pathologizing Amy's love for Sonic? They didn't do this to Shadow's love for Maria
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>>563323379
I was about to get unreasonably mad over the exclusion of my husbando but then I read the filename. Interesting
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>>563323370
Maybe stop lying and people won't correct you
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>>563323430
Turdge is ugly and none of her fans actually like her. It's an abhorrently bad design only outdone in unappealing ugliness by Belle. Her entire color scheme is based on a heckin QUIRKY reference to a glitch. Right from the very concept there is an issue in character design, she's based on a glitch with a randomized color scheme. Other characters are given their colors deliberately, according to what mood they want the character to give off, what their role is, what their personality and main traits are. Amy is pink because she's a girl in love. Knuckles is red to contrast with Sonic/M.E. as well as making him more striking. Shadow is black because he's a mysterious anti-hero type. Why is Surge green? So you can point and say HEY LOOK I RECOGNIZE THAT REFERENCE FROM THAT THING. She's a tenrec because the "Shadow is actually like a tenrec (fake hedgehog)" became a meme in 2018ish and everyone was making their OCs into tenrecs. So she's a social media headcanon meme and a reference to the fact that Sonic games are awful glitchy messes. This isn't getting into the fact that her outfit is trash. As in it looks like a ripped black trashbag. What were they going for making it? It's yellow so it's similar to her vomit colored fur, but you have no calmer colors to offset all of it, so you're left with this garish neon blob. And then all that grey. Why do IDW characters use so much grey? Her muzzle is sickly and weird looking too. Why is it greyish? Why do Americans insist on making such horrid designs like this and why does anyone defend it? Again, is it just because it has eyelashes? I hope Idw is canceled so I never have to look at this thing again. And this is just about her appearance, let's not get into the complete dogshit dumpster fire that is her story and personality. Every Turdge fan turns her into a generic tsundere because nobody likes the real Turdge. Literally worse than Silver.
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>>563323292
Krack never replies to you because she's cheating.
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>>563322784
>where dafuq did Antoine come from?
Antoine was added later. It's why Spinball doesn't have him. Antoine's existence messed with Rotor's since the latter was designed to be a socially awkward nerd who Bunnie took a shine to.
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>>563323512
Why are you acting like they don't insist that Shadow and Maria are siblings and that Shadow should forget about her constantly
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>>563323562
And yet you never do this to any other namefag here... curious.
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>>563323453
>Torturing Antoine with bad cooking
Are the french as autistic about cooking as Italians? unless Antoine is of Italian origin like napoleon
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>>563323230
A shame no one in charge can fix it
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>>563323154
>That show already got made back in 03
X doesn't use that format when the characters including Sonic are all in Chris' house.
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>>563323734
But there was one Instagram story on the official English Sonic account that where Shadow said in a Valentine's Day card "You'll never be Maria"
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>>563323739
I corrected you about the documents guy didn't I?
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>>563323926
And you don't correct other people here making up whatever about other namefags like Sparky and Drawboard anons... very curious.
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Cope
Sneed
Dial 8
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>>563323750
french bitch here, It really depends but there are quite a lot of people who get uppity about the way you cook things but not on the same level as Italians I believe
Really depends on where you are, people still have arguments about whether to call it "pain au chocolat" or "chocolatine"
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>>563323904
>the official English Sonic account
It was the official SEGA account, not Sonic.>>563310480
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>>563323926
Didn't she post it to twitter?
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>>563322776
>>563324057
You're not insinuating you know Fartchie to an extent, are you? If you are, I will block you on Twitter and tell other friends you're fraud.

I don't need anymore false Sonic fans in my life.
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>>563324012
Your point?
>>563324143
I don't remember him saying he cared, so why do you? It sounds like you just hate her.
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>>563324126
I see. That Sega still belongs to Sega of America so why would Sega of America make Shadow and Maria siblings in the English version of Shadow Generations but then release that Instagram post where Shadow implies Maria was his true love? Makes zero sense
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>>563324314
I recall him talking about how he didn't want people to use his documents to shit on others.
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>>563324314
You only defend Krack on ever corner possible because she's a girl and you wanna fuck her.
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>>563324382 (me)
*That Sega account
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>>563324382
Because there is an actual fight from SoA to make Amy get over Sonic. And Sonic Team cares more about Shadow than Amy.
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>>563324057
Krack, why did you samefag and falseflag for every /sthg/ thread on 2021 with that crying Sonic pic? What was your endgame?
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Why are Sally and Nicole such bad cooks? Is Antoine just a bad teacher? 'cuz they can't understand half the shit he's saying? And thought "fuel" was an ingredient?
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>>563324746
I really think it's because they can't understand the shit he's saying
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>>563324592
That doesn't change the fact that SOA was able to get away with removing Shadow's love for Maria in the English version of Shadow Generations. If Sonic Team cares more about Shadow, then why didn't they prevent SOA from removing his love for Maria in the English version of Shadow Generations?
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>>563324503
>>563324418
>Dramafagging this hard
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>people trying to search for a deeper meaning
>when it was just some internet trying to le funny with le meme
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>>563324634
Same reason she spearheaded Hessespam and created TDOSTH. To maximise the attention she gets and make the thread gravitate to her opinions. You make the people with a bone to pick with your husbando look hysterical, hence why she picked Classic and anti-shadow falseflag personas.
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>>563325023
Then don't avatarfag and namefag every single thread.
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>>563325023
>sticking your dick in my asshole this hard
Ah~... S-slow down!
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>>563324746
Sally can't cook because raised as a Princess and now Antoine's on the team who enjoys cooking and doesn't burn the kitchen down, so it's easier for him to do it.
Sally would die in a kitchen fire if left to her own devices.
Nicole is an A.I. who doesn't need to eat or has any tastebuds, and the only person her teacher is Sally.
The blind leading the blind.
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>>563324746
Common joke where girls are bad at cooking.
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>>563325260
Even sega make that joke
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>>563324418
Are you seriously trying to manufacture drama between Krack and someone who doesn't have a problem with her?
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>>563324746
Because Ian hates the idea of women being nurturing homemakers
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>>563325410
I'm not trying to do anything but say the truth.
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>>563325482
What's the truth?
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>Because there is an actual fight from SoA to make Amy get over Sonic.
DAMN, there WAS!? I missed that! Did it look like THIS? Did someone died? Details, anon! DETAILS.
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lmaoing at this >>563325467 post riffing on westerns while ignoring this >>563325403.

So much for jap tards
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>>563325410
Do you lack common sense? Are a kid? Did your mom never teach you to respect people's established limits?
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>>563325403
>anklebracelet
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>itt we pretend krack did some heinous crime to some other anon to have an excuse to shit on her
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He's cute
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Archie's original backstory had Eggman take over when Sonic was already a teen like in the games.
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>>563326304
Krack will never love you back.
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>>563325073
Was Krack behind Zavokspam too?
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>be astronauts after coming back from outer space and having to fly back to Houston
I'm used to these G's 'cause I'm the real OG.
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>>563326323
And Sonic joins the Freedom Fighters right after.
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>>563326323
>>563326571
HOLY SOVL
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Kemonomimis are weird because they have four ears and you're just supposed to accept that
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Are we still pretending Mania is good?
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Seeing westnic do something wind-like is just as jarring as seeing Gamenic do something vulnerable
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>>563326528
>fake another moon mission to deflect being incapable of making good Sonic content
Westies everyone
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>>563324912 (me)
SOA also removed Amy's love for Sonic in the 35th anniversary book but after the outrage on social media, they released an update for Sonic Rumble for Sonic and Amy's character models and released that Sonic x Amy Wallpaper story T-shirt.
It's similar to how SOA released that Valentine's Day post on Instagram with Shadow implying that Maria is his true love. Same playbook - Ruin a character, spark outrage from fans on social media in the process, then release merch, social media posts, and mobile game updates to quell the controversy and to pretend that it's going to be fixed.
Is there adversity between the SOA staff that work on the game localizations and the social media managers? Why isn't SOJ doing something about it? We're back to when SOJ and SOA were doing their own thing back in the 90s and 2000s. No coordination, no communication
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>>563322521
oh hey caught you actually on time for a thread to still be up. was just quickly wondering what's your opinion on kip the capybara?
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>>563326852
They wouldn't be in the mess they're in now if they only stopped listening to fags on the internet
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>>563326852
>SoA handled the situation by bestie posting and reaffirming their relationship as besties.
>it worked
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>>563324912
>SOA was able to get away with removing Shadow's love for Maria in the English version of Shadow Generations
I didn't detect that. I thought their love was still present but super subtle. Shadow stands close to Maria. He lets her hug him. He smiles at her. Treats her gently. Those are expressions of tenderness and love. Love doesn't have be extremely overt.
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He's actually damn sexy
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God he's such a tease
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>>563327340
Sonic...
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>>563327340
Too bad he's mentally retarded.
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>>563325716
Did her Sonic Generations bio getting censored not tip you off?
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>>563327447
He built a machine that can perform chaos control
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>>563325783
In fairness, Japan does it because it's an ancient trope. Ian does it because he's an actual faggot and he hates it when women do anything traditionally feminine.
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>>563327458
Anon... where was the "actual fight"?
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>>563327526
You have Ian Derangement Syndrome
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So many Tumblr images recently. I didn't know there was so much art there

Is it any good?
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>>563327949
I haven't been involved with Ian's shit long enough for that to be more than a surface-level assessment, but go off queen.
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>>563327697
By that logic, there was never a fight between SoA and SoJ during the classic era.
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>>563327163
Oh, you're right. Sorry. I was thinking about how in a comic released years ago, SOA changed the wording of the original Japanese version. In the original, Gerald said "Shadow loves my granddaughter Maria" but the English translation from SOA said something like "Shadow cares deeply about my grandaughter Maria".
So SOA really does have a unique grudge against Amy's love for Sonic. There needs to be an investigation from SOJ and accountability for whoever is responsible because this is not a one-time offense; it has been going on for years now
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>>563327773
>My boy
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>>563328015
>surface level assessment

You made a full schizo post
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I'm confused, what did Krack do?
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Alive series...
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Power couple
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>>563328234
I read a fanfic once where Tails grew up and married Mina Mongoose, then one day Mina woke up and realized she was the reincarnation of Cosmo from Sonic X's universe
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>>563327526
It's not even that, it's commentary on Blaze's frustration at barely keeping her powers under control when she uses them. That's why she doesn't like using her fire to cook and would rather have something cold.
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They're so young yet so elegant

>>563328334
That's interesting. I think an issue everythingfags might face is having to reconcile all those ships in their fics

I mean they could all go the ultra crazy orgy route but that's too much lol
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>>563328129
That's two sentences, retard. Sit the fuck down.
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>>563328501
Feeling insecure I see
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>>563328334
uh-huh
And where was Zooey?
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>>563328489
>That's interesting. I think an issue everythingfags might face is having to reconcile all those ships in their fics
I noticed this is a problem in fanfics where everything is canon. Usually the solution for Sonic is to just ignore all of his ships or pick one and make all the other girls forget being in love with him. With Tails it's tougher because Cosmo, Zooey, and Mina existing at the same time means it has to come up and be explained.
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make an insightful post
now
y'all boring
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>>563328039
Not an "actual" one, but that would make reality a lot less boring. Imagine if every SoJ/SoA meeting ended with a couple guys getting three-stooges'd? Fuck man, I'd actually pay to see that.
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>>563328785
Or just kill one of them.
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>>563328802
My insight is that Sonia has big boobies
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>>563328489
I reconcile it by having the multiverse be a thing and each Tails gets with one of the girls. I sometimes imagine what the Tails would share with each other if they met in some kind of dimensional merge.
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Technically speaking, would using "extended universe" IE shows and movie characters count as Crossworld shit?
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>>563326571
>edit
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>>563328802
Why are they so large? Sonia is off model all the time in Sonic Underground
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Bun!
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>>563329195
Maybe she just has big tits. Ever thought about that?
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>>563329123
I miss the city aesthetic from the 2000s games because it felt like a tony hawk game but even cooler
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>>563328802
Yuji Naka was the only guy ever in charge of this franchise that had a vision and the moment he left was when everything went to complete shit. The only reason why Sonic Unleashed was as good as it is was because Sonic Team still had a few key programmers and designers. There is no talent in Sonic Team these days and neither Iizuka or Kishimoto know what to do with Sonic.
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>>563329195
You'll find that in most cartoons, shit doesn't stay on model all the time. That's what happens when you have potentially hundreds of different animators working on a project.
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>>563329195
>Why are they so large?
French cartoon
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>>563329150
Bro you are never going to hear the term Crossworld ever again ad doon as they make another kartslop game, who cares
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>>563328785
>With Tails it's tougher because Cosmo, Zooey, and Mina existing at the same time means it has to come up and be explained.
Cosmo is tragically doomed, there is no lasting Tailsmo. The love triangle would be Tails, Mina, Zooey. Except Mina is a nonfactor until Tails is aged up, so by default, Zooey wins.
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>>563329195
You should rewatch ATLA and notice how by Book 3, Katara is noticeably bustier than most of the adult females despite being 14.
Shit like that happens all the time. Also >>563329460
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>>563329534
Cosmo = Tragic death
Mina = "She didn't notice him until he got bigger than her" kind of adult pairing
Zooey = Cute puppy love
?
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>>563328785
This the comic that gave Sonic two moms?
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>>563329674
Yes it's the one where Sonia Manic Aleena and Bernadette are all dead and Sonic was raised by Chuck and Jules
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>>563329635
Tails cheated on all of them
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I just watched a video of the character dialogue between Shadow, Omega, Big, Rouge, Gerald, and Maria in Sonic X Shadow Generations. In the English version, Maria still asks Shadow if he's blushing and she tells him I love you but Amy's love for Sonic was removed from her bio.
It's true. SOA hates Sonamy and SOJ does nothing to stop SOA. Typical double standards from Takashi Iizuka because Shadow is his pet. You have no idea how much this ticks me off
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Just give him his 3 wives at once. He'll find a way to make it work.
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>>563329887
>waaahhh waaaaahhh *hic* waaahhhb

I don't care bro, we have bigger problems
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>>563329860
He's a dead fox...
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>>563319069
I think the saddest implication is Silver thinking Sonic is some kind of punk who refuses to follow the rules like Scourge. Ouch, poor guy. Also RIP Blaze
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>>563328162

>>563325073
>>563324634
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>>563327340
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>>563330318
Sonic X is drawn in the style of old manga for some reason. It's really noticable when you look at the adults.
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>>563329887
>Le ebil boogeyman SOA kills my precious sonamy
nothing of value was lost. although i admit amy's relentlessness and sonic cringing out at her were kinda funny
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>no leaks in months
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>>563329195
>Sonic Underground gives Knuckles better use of his digging powers more than the games and other shows ever did
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>>563328068
Oh you're talking about the dialogue. I was watching the character animated expressions.
Thank god Ian is not an animator.
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>>563329376
You faggots act like Oshima just never existed.
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Are Surge and Lanolin actually popular or just porn popular
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>>563327340
He should've stayed old through season 3...
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>>563325073
Every attempt to paint Krack as a bad guy sounds so ridiculous to me that I just fill in the blanks now. People make things up about her or exaggerate to make her sound worse. In the end of the day she wants her favorite character to be in-character and I respect that. She isn't this supervillain.
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>>563330485
The last time we had "leaks" you spammed /v/ for a month
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The problem with Sonamyfags is that they think Yuji Naka wouldn't destroy their ship the way Iizuka did to Sonally
>>563330525
The only modern Sonic game Oshima was present for was SA1 and Superstars.
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>>563330530
Porn
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>>563330578
Any press is good press to some people. People die a second death when people stop saying their name.
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>>563330534
Hard to frame him in shots since most of the characters would be crotch level, if that. Is that what you want, anon?
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>>563330829
Nta but that is indeed what I want.
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>>563330829
Yes.
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>>563330530
Surge and Lanolin are the two characters who get mischaracterized by Coomers the most and I know thats saying a lot
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>>563330501
I also hate how the English and Japanese games have very different scripts. I'm pretty sure Shadow Generations was the only one to not have that problem. Sonic Team needs to closely supervise both to make sure they're similar
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Even sonic at its worst still better than the best west franchises/ip in history.
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>>563330965
Alright, sure. Sonic still gets shat on by other JP Ips tho.
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Idk man it feels like you guys are arguing over random bullshit that only exists inside your heads
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I think I truly understand Evan after realizing she redeemed Scourge in her fanfic
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>>563331219
Evan's into Silver the rapehog?
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>>563330530
Vanilla has a shit ton of porn despite being so obscure. You could convince a porn addict she is one of the main characters if they never played a game
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>>563331174
Took you long enough
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>>563329887
You can bet it's still lingering grudge over Sally.
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>>563331352
Glad Honey has so much femdom stuff
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My only real problem with Lanolinfags and Surgefags is that a lot of them just don't simply admit that they hate their official characterization. They do this weird thing where they pretend that they're good and always have been good but everything they like about them is porn and whatever headcanons they have.
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>>563330161
Just wait until his psyche drops even more once he hears Mephiles
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>>563331419
Ben Hurst is dead and had no sway at Sega of America. SOA spat in his face for trying to come back.
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What if Eggman turned all the characters into babies with one of his inventions and Shadow had to take care of them?
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>DCxSonic didnt sell
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Every movie and book feels so shit after playing SA2.
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>>563331540
Fandom Lanolin is a sloppy sexually aggressive girlfailure who is associated with Shadow or Duo. Canon Lanolin doesn't seem to like any social stuff.

Fandom Surge is a tsundere. A bargain bin tsundere. If you've seen Misty or Asuka you have seen Fandom Surge. Sometimes Fandom Surge is more of a butch lesbian and sometimes she's just a blushing awkward crybaby. Both of them are characterized as tsunderes.
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>>563329837
Nice. Race Park continues to be the best place to farm tickets but I don't like the team race modes enough to do it.
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>>563331656
>buying toys
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>>563329796
The fuck? Why is super gay?
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>>563330958
It's only REALLY bad with Colors (joke-heavy), Frontiers (so bad the director tried to save the JP version himself only after animations were done) and remastered Sonic Generations (Ian rewriting the already-serviceable and accurate script because he can). Most games whose story isn't in the manual, translated fairly decently.
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>>563331656
I’m still looking for the Shadow figure. I’m not buying the pack with both him and Batman, nor the 4 pack with Darkseid.
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>>563331656
Shit, I need to go to Walmart. $5 is a steal.
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>>563331607
>Sonic daima
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>>563330829
This and also his clothes don't make the travel to Sonic's world.
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>>563331219
There's nothing to understand. She's just a woman. There was a study conducted where a group of men and a group of women were shown clips of a sports game. In one game a player who was playing fairly gets injured, in another a player who was cheating and playing dirty gets injured. They measured the physiological response of the groups after being shown both clips. The men would feel remorse watching the player who played fairly get hurt, but feel absolutely nothing watching the dirty player get injured. Women felt remorse for both the clean player and the dirty player. Women are biologically predisposed to be unable to understand justice. No one is a villain in their eyes.
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Fangames like srb2 are as bad as idw
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>>563332072
That explains why Evan said she will never write a villain with mental illness
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>>563331970
I didn't know this was a thing
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>>563332208
I like how Oolong looks
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>>563331838
Crossworlds also suffers from the same problem. It needs to stop. The English scripts are boring, soulless, and butcher the characters but the Japanese ones get them right
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>>563331970
>Android 18 becomes a kid even though she canonically can't age
>Majin Buu becomes a kid even though canonically he never was one
>Ox King, Roshi, and Satan lose their beards but Yamcha keeps his scars
>Gohan vaulted for no reason even though he was the most significant kid character
>Krillin looks entirely different from his actual child design
Daima was weird
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>>563331656
>mindless consumerism
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>>563332475
I didn't expect them to make any sense but I'm still pissed about Gohan...
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>>563332475
meant for >>563332208
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Redrawing this page from Invincible, which characters should be where?

Context: Sonic is killed on live tv
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>>563331717
SA2 ain't got shit on Snow Crash
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>>563332208
Also Chichi is off model. Kid Chichi had boobs
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>>563332683
Amy goes in the biggest square
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>>563332683
>Wolf on top right
Drago
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>>563332762
No she didn't
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>>563332475
Android 18 can age. She is a cyborg not a robot
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>>563332683
Old guy with headphones could be Dr Eggman
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>>563332904
Nta but yes the fuck she did you uncultured swine.
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>>563331838
iirc the racing game before CrossWorlds had a pretty bad PonGraff script where hardly anyone felt in-character because they don't understand them, but I didn't play it so I dunno.
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>>563332904
kinda, barely
armor doing most of the work
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/sthg/ mission to the Moon
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>>563332683
Rotor. :>
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>>563332379
>Crossworlds also suffers from the same problem. . .The English scripts are boring, soulless
Not all of them.
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>>563333024
>>563333051
New people don't know how much of a lolicon and pervert Toryama is.
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>>563333024
>>563333051
My fault gang, I don't usually stare at the chests if underage girls so I missed it
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>>563333207
Yamcha coded post
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>>563333052
Once we get there, steal Woefag’s spacesuit and leave him behind
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>>563332683
I heard about this show. The glasses guy keeps coming back from the dead. I vote for Tails.
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>>563333207
I don't either, I looked it up just now.
>>563333193
It's pretty to think about lol. I don't care about that stuff tho
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>>563333330
The fuck is this shitty AIslop it hurts my eyes
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Goku kills every argument that the west wouldn't like JPnic. He's the exact same character if he was stupid.
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>>563331656
kids can tell when crossovers feel forced
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This post gave me an ulcer
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>edit
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Got the napalm bomb in Tails Adventure. It's only use is bombing up entrances :P

Still cool though. I'm getting my ass handed to me by a boss
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>>563333472
Amerishits feel the need to degrade and humiliate characters to their lowest before they're seen with any worth
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>>563333472
I like when Sonic has bigger expressions. Its hotter.
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>>563333168
Well, you're right this time. I just wish the English and Japanese scripts could be soulful and similarly worded the same time
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Please Sega give us new content. We've got nothing else to talk about.
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>>563333472
All edits are gay, including editanon's.
How about moving with new stories instead of dwelling on the past?
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>>563333472
>Sonic doesn't need to be put together all the time
Yes he does. It's part of his character.
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"Evil Sonic", but conforming to the first manga's origin story. Yay or nay?
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>>563333472
I remember coming to this general and people would tell me IDW is just like the games unlike "Fartschie". I remember people saying it had Sega mandates to make sure it's in character and that fans of IDW understand the games unlike Archie.
Nine years later and IDW fans essentially want Sonic to be Midoriya and are always talking about how great it is for him to be vulnerable, expressive, and wrestling inner demons. IDW fans have an impression of Sonic's character that is so distinct from the games that I would say it's even more OOC than Archie.
>But what about all the romance
If you cut that out (which Archie did) it's objectively more in-character than IDW.
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>>563333761
Explain.
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>>563333469
Goku has been heavily flanderized lately so this is a stupid ass argument
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>>563333472
There's nothing wrong with exaggerated expressions. Honestly I think a lot of Sonic fans are too used to anime where the characters are mostly static and have emoji like facial expressions

That said the tweet doesn't understand Sonic :P
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>>563333761
>evil sonic
No more hedgehog and hedgehog-like rivals please.
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Next game is good but westshit
What happens?
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>>563333472
I really hate the notion that not being "scared and wimpy" is bad somehow. They always attribute it to toxic masculinity when the reality is that I just prefer people who are not being a miserable sack of shit and deals with their emotions in a more controlled manner.
I swear this shit is just a fetish and they don't realize it. Some people deal with their emotions differently, not every cracks and not everyone cracks the same way where they become the uncontrollable mess they want to see from these characters. They don't respect that notion and expect everyone to break down like they do. This desire to see a normally strong character get broken down to extremes is definitely an unchecked fetish rather than something genuinely sincere. They want the gratification of seeing something that feels like they're not allowed to see.
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>>563333207
It's not about looking at a loli's chest. It's about defending Chichi as THE tiddy monster of Dragon Ball.
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>>563333761
I like the idea of just dumping Scourge's entire characterization and literally making him Sonic but evil
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>>563333721
No it isn't. Mascot Sonic is not the real Sonic.
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>>563333761
As in "Nicky changes to Scourge when in danger who then causesveven worse havok for shit and giggles and Nicky won't remember his rampages"?
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Do you guys consider that scene at the end of Unleashed where Sonic is scared shitless by Dark Gaia to be ooc?
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How many of you here use Tumblr?
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I wanna squeeze him until he passes out.
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>>563333330
AIslop, but thanks for the effort
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>>563334208
No
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>sacrebleu, we are getting le canceled?
>fock it, give Robotnik his coup d'etat!
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>>563334032
IDW fans are trying to fight back against the notion that every hero has to be a stoic badass but we are already decades out from that being a norm. Nerd heroes exist. We have Steven Universe, Charlie Brown, Iizuku Midoriya, SPIDER-MAN? But no they need every character to be a vulnerable bitch
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>>563334076
Original Sonic as conceived by Oshima, Naka and Yasuhara hates tears.
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>>563334208
Considering that Dark Gaia is supposed to be an eldritch horror, not really.
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>>563334321
Steven is a grooming victim and Steven Universe is a cancer that started the era of Tumblr-style cartoons and ruined the western animation industry forever
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>>563334208
>where Sonic is scared shitless by Dark Gaia
https://youtu.be/f6emRblppeA?t=54
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>>563334497
Sonic thought those before though...
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>>563334218
Not since the porn ban
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>>563333862
>>563334063
>>563334163
Not just Scourge but archienic as well. He's too egotistical and lacks the humility to improve as well as Sonic can so he lags behind the real deal hence his rivalry.
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>>563334321
>SPIDER-MAN?
Spider-Man has only been a softboi in the 2010's with Iron Boy Jr.
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>>563332379
It's because Ian writes a robot. Everything he does feels algorithmic. The only aspect of his writing that possesses any personal stake is getting rid of Amy's feelings for Sonic.
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>>563334651
06 was erased and Chaos is a puppy to Dark Gaia.
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>>563334208
But he wasn't scared.
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>>563334218
sometimes
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>>563334791
He fought Al-layala-whatever in Secret Rings
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>>563333635
I'm in full agreement. There's a lot of shit SoA is getting away with in the writing while SoJ works really hard to keep everything consistent between projects.
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>>563334930
Books aren't real stupid
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>>563334651
Chaos is a dragon/reptile made of water. 06 retcons itself. Unleashed is the first time Sonic actually fights an eldritch horror. Also on top of that >>563334616 it looks like Sonic was completely drained of power right before he said run which, again, is not a scenario he's been in.
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What is Chris-chan's opinion on the recent Sonic charactetization discussions? Is he with us or against us?
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>>563334930
He was Darkspine Sonic.
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>>563334775
And Ian getting rid of Amy's feelings for Sonic is bad too. He's just a garbage writer
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>>563334616
Hot...
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>>563334791
>>563335019
Sonic remembers 06
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>>563334718
I can almost see why Archiefags defend the comic but I've actually read it and I think it's very bad. Not solely for being out of character but because being out of character doesn't serve the comic. What does Sonic struggling with the Werehog do for him as a character in Archie? It feels like Insomniac Venom where Peter gets new flaws that only exist under the influence of Venom. Archie Sonic is afflicted, these aren't character flaws. Him needing to learn to control the werehog isn't compelling. It almost feels like a case study for why game Sonic never had to struggle in the first place. It's generic and uninteresting.
There's the controversial romance in the preboot but I think people like the idea of it more than what it actually is. What it should have been instead of what it turned out to be. Sonic and Sally date for 15 issues unironically. I'm being generous and including every issue where they haven't broken up, then both times they get together the story decides to rip itself apart for no reason. And no I don't believe Sonic Team told Archie to universally retcon Sonic's relationship with Sally, Ian said they still dated in the reboot. It's just bad writing.
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>>563334218
Aato
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>>563335149
That's a "Yes but also no". Thing. He only seems to remember barely in Sonic Generations.
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>>563335019
Both Perfect Chaos and Erazor Djinn could be considered eldritch monsters, you're just being nitpicky

Only his Werehog energy was drained not everything. The experience scared him
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>>563333635
It's hard translating JP Sonic's speech quirks into english. Like informal honorifics and occasional english words.
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Answer>>563334031
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>>563335251
>The experience scared him
So you say.
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>>563329442
What's this?
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>>563334631
It's funny how if you do something like this and reduce Sonic's personality to just the games you realize how much headcanon carries people about shipping
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>>563335290
Nothing changes. Series has been westshit for a while. "Good" is apparently temporary anyway.
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>>563335290
No.
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>>563335232
How...? What dialogue hinted this?
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>>563334208
Dark Gaia is the cause of his transformation (that override the Chaos fucking Emeralds, by the way), has been cycling through an endless battle with Light Gaia, and is arguably the most fearsome force Sonic has ever dealt with, whose sole purpose is to devastate the planet that he cherishes. It cannot be reasoned with, nor is it interested in trying to understand. The only opponents that come close are Solaris (erased) and THE END (later).
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>>563335251
>You're just being nitpicky
No, I'm pretty sure Dark Gaia is the first time Sonic actually deals with something made up of ethereal dark/negative energy.
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>>563335276
That's true but the dialogue and characterization ought to remain as similar as possible. Sonic X Shadow Generations: Dark Beginnings was accurately translated from English to Japanese and that's how the games ought to be
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>>563335276
It isn't. Either have him speak Japanese like a weeb or Spanglish.
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>>563335409
The astroturfing this game got was unbelievable. No one even talks about this shit anymore
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>>563335232
>>563335468
NTA, but Sonic has a line in japanese TSR where he teases Silver over memories of 06 he doesn't remember anymore. For some reason, Sonic does. Though I remember Ian cope explaining it away as a mistake
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>>563335539
>Spanglish
Like Puss in Boots?
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>>563335539
That's fucking cringe.
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>>563335596
Not here, anyway. You fuckers hate this game. Me and my friends still talk about it.
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But that's the thing, if he spoke Spanish or Japanese it doesn't make Sonic look cool and endearing like in the JP script, it just makes him sound like a weeb
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>>563335468
NTA but apparently Blaze, Silver and Sonic BARELY remember 06, but only as a convenient throwaway line/joke.
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>>563335806
Meant for>>563335539
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>>563335797
Sorry about your garbage taste
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>>563335998
Likewise.
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The artificial JPfags vs. Westfags in here just showcases to me that there are people in here who do not understand how translations work. You will never have a 1-for-1 translation between two languages with different roots and alphabets. Even if you had Sonic speak literal Japenglish like some cringy weeb, it still wouldn't be a 1-for-1 translations because on the Japanese side he wouldn't be using English words anyway. It's a self-defeating argument.
The changes in text isn't even bad. If anything it's decent in most of the games due to how simple the dialogue is. You guys have no idea how bad things can truly get.
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>>563335806
Spanglish it is then.
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WHAT IF THE WESTSHIT GAME IS GOOD
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>>563336096
What the fuck is that dub? Did they not fucking realize what the joke was?
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>>563336096
... pic unrelated...?
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>>563333472
he shouldn't be wimpy but he should have cartoony expressions
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>>563336096
The main complaint of JPfags is that there were/are are radical changes in the script on the west side, not that the translations are just inaccurate.
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>>563336096
This would be an okay argument for the 2000s games where the only major difference between english and Japanese is how standoffish Sonic is to Amy, but in this era the english and japanese games replace entire sentences in ways that make your pic look normal. Japanese Frontiers is barely coherent and replaces literally every line of dialogue with something radically different. English Crossworlds is loaded with headcanons and weird winks at the audience. There is a clear divide here that didn't exist before.
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>>563336096
The dub is what Sonic games must not do for the sake of quality but sadly, Frontiers broke that rule. The original dialogue and the dub are just so different
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>>563336263
NTA but it's like his last sentence says: You have no idea how bad it can get. That pic just barely scratches the surface.
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>>563336119
Do Americans think mixing in Spanish words is cool?
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Japanese Crossworlds
>Rouge flirts with Sonic
>Sonic snaps back with an insult that implies that she's not even a woman

English Crossworlds
>Rouge flirts with Sonic
>Sonic snaps back with a double entendre that implies he'd fuck her

This is a bad thing
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>>563336096
Why the fuck did you make me remember Dragon Maid's dub?
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>>563336279
I am shoving that fourth one into my face currently
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>>563336464
Sonic would have to be Latino for it to not be cringe.
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>>563336340
This a non issue. Let them be different. The only people who care are terminally online sperms who want to win internet arguments over a children's franchise. Who gives a fuck.
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Is /sthg/ the most active general on /vg/?
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>>563336517
you're eating it?
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>>563336505
Amy...
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>>563336619
gachaturds definitely have us beat
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>>563336505
No it's not.
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>>563336340
>but in this era the english and japanese games replace entire sentences in ways that make your pic look normal
Koboyashi's dub literally completely replaces and changes the personality of 2 of the dragon girls and turned one of them into a full blown feminist because the English VA was heavily in the #metoo shitshow when it was happening. You don't know how bad it is until you watch both versions. It's fucking horrendous, it's basically a completely different show.
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>>563336581
Nigga, do you know where you are!?
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>>563336581
Your argument is that you just don't care... about the story? 90% of the plot holes in this franchise are directly caused by translations flipflopping which one matters the most. There are lines in the games that literally don't make sense. Money and time are spent on these things.
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>>563336767
Oh not the tragedy all the 10 people playing the game in japanese will see the story in a different way that's such a devastating thing
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>>563336767
Caring about the story in a Sonic game is one of the stupidest things I've everbheard.
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>>563336651
Yes. It must be a part of me forever...
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>>563336414
>The original dialogue and the dub
nobody tell him
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>>563336581
why do you people even chime into conversations if you don't actually care i will never understand this mindset. You don't care about the characterizations so why does it matter to you if people want them to be good?
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>>563336581
If you don't care, then go away and let the autistic adults talk about it.
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>>563336414
The English IS the original stupid.
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>>563337056
People who care too much about pointless things have been causing trouble in this franchise.
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Gameplayfags are retarded
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>want to support artists
>have to acknowledge I can put whatever hyper specific description of a sonic girl (OCs too) into perchance ai and can get an infinite amount of pictures that look about as good as 99% of twitter
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>>563336929
>>563336920
You don't care about the story but you do care if people criticize the story
My argument then is this. Cutscenes in Sonic games average an hour long or more. This costs money to produce. You could easily argue that these games would be more polished if that money was spent on making the game better. If the story is going to be there it should at least be good. If the translation is going to happen it should be coherent. If it's not then why have it at all? Why do I need a bad movie packaged with the game?
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>>563337082
Yes and no. Japan set the plot up. They handed it to Ian to write the script. Then they decided his script sucked and rewrote it for their local market closer to what they wanted in the first place.
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>>563337126
We are the only ones who matter.
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>>563331656
It's five issues of Shadow running around in his batman jammies and Wonder woman using Amy as a snuggly toy, corse it sold still the very dull read as a whole
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>>563335472
Archie ending with Sonic's victory over Dark Gaia is basically the best ending you can hope for out of Archie, comparable with Sonic the Comic ending with the defeat of Perfect Chaos. It really just goes downhill from there. If I were to change ONE thing about it, it'd be to make a proper epilogue to give the characters more closure, rather than awkwardly ending in the middle of yet another nostalgic throwback.
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>>563337209
And the result was the Japanese fans saying the writing was awful and retranslating the game to be closer to the English script
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>>563337230
No, faggot. tone, characterizations and being japanese are the only things that matter
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>>563337173
I spend my time at perchance generating smut stories about Amy masturbating.
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Sonic games cost 70 dollars now so I don't ever buy the argument that the story is above criticism because its a shitty kids game. If it's a shitty kids game it should be ten dollars like all the other games of similar quality.
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>>563337209
This is why if they're going to let Ian write first, then there need to be supervisors breathing down his neck every second to make sure he gets things right.
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>>563336743
I will never forgive them for turned the "big boobs joke girl" into a whiny cunt for most of the show. The only thing they even remotely kept about Tohru was her shotacon tendencies and even that is heavily hampered down to just "oh he's cute when he blushes."
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>>563337282
All those toys were on the bargain bin anon, it didn't sell at all.
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I want to stroke his quills
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"Actually the fact that every character has a different personality in different languages is okay because... I don't care!!"
Do westfags really?
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>>563337394
And the issue in question is that they weren't the same to begin with.
>>563337478
Correct. If he can't be trusted to do it right (see also: Bumblekast having to cancel questions not validated by Sonic Team because he kept making up shit that made the series look bad) then they need to be watching him at all times.
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>>563337394
>retranslating the game to be closer to the English script
They... they did that?! S-source?
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Le hecking gameplay
Kill westies
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>>563337474
It costs $70 because faggots like you will still buy it in droves no matter the actual quality of the game itself.
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The english versions of the games from Sonic 1 to SA1 are silly because they keep trying to reaffirm SatAM Sonic's stupid 2cool4school attitude but at least that was cute and gave Sonic some character.
The english versions of the games from Colors to Forces tried to make Sonic a funny joker like Spidey but the problem is that Sonic isn't funny at all and all of his jokes are shit. Don't tell me it was for kids. I was thirteen years old when Sonic Forces came out and I didn't laugh a single time.
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Honestly if Sega wants to do something with the DIC shit they would allow IDW to make continuations of the shows. Maybe even incorporate more characters and stuff from the games for more material.
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Japanese Sonic is literally irrelevant because no one in Japan buys Sonic games. The few who do know Soni only know him from crossovers in Nintendo games. Why do you think Sega has been pushing to get Sonic into more crossovers?
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>>563338001
you are aware that Dic made Sonic prime right
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>>563337647
>they need to be watching him at all times.
And the problem is that Sonic Team doesn't do that. That's why he's able to get away with removing Amy's love for Sonic among other things
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>>563337956
Forces was a tryhard game for OCfaggots who wanted their OC to be real and edgy. They all collectively creamed themselves when the custom OC reveal happened.
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>>563336716
Gachashits aren't games, they don't count.
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I think the true irony in all of this is that Japanese people actually like the western parts of the IP more than whatever SOJ puts out.
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>>563337956
But.
But SATAM didn't exist until around CD came out (hence the forced "Princess Sally" US marketing)
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>>563338251
Even some of the most diehard fans in Japan barely know anything about any of the cartoons and comics that have come out in the west.
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>>563338139
They're still around?
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>>563338158
Who the fuck cares
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>>563338001
>would allow IDW to make continuations of the shows

WOOWWEE ZOWWEEE? A MODERN CONTINUATION OF SATAM THAT IS ACTUALLY IN THE SATAM CANON? WOULDN'T THAT BE GREAT!!!!!!!!! I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE FOLLOWING LOVABLE ADVENTURES

>Iizuka demanding Sonally be expunged from the show and all references that it ever happened wiped clean
>Amy appears for obligatory reasons
>REDEEMNIC
>Ian flynn influence
>Shadow shoved in for no fucking reason
>M A N D A T E S
>Uwu vulnerable relatable crybaby Sonic
>Uncle Chuck looking directly at the camera and saying "I am not Sonic's uncle. Sonic has no relatives because he's free, like the wind"
>SatAM Robotnik getting a redesign to resemble the games and losing literally all of his edge
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>>563338384
I'm talking moreso about the westernization of Sonic's dialogue.
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>>563338410
People who have standards for quality and consistency
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>>563338409
They're Wild Brain now.
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>>563338501
If you cared about that you wouldn't be a Sonic fan.
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>>563338409
Yes. DiC was absorbed into Wildbrain and is the reason Wildbrain has the Sonic license today. That's why all of the DiC cartoons are on Wildbrain's channel. You got a DiC Sonic cartoon that ran from 2022 to 2024 and it was under all of the same mandates as IDW.
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>>563338139
>>563338409
Oh that's fuckin' weird. They basically morphed into Wild Brain.
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>>563338487
I'm not entirely sure they'd be thrilled with what's going on over here.
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>>563338251
Sonic doesn't really stand out 2bh
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They should have just made a tag fighter for crossovers instead of Kartslop. I would actually play that. Love me some good kusoge fighters.
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>>563338448
>losing literally all of his edge
What edge?
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>>563338001
I mean this unironically: hire Tamers12345 to make any Dic stuff. If he is willing to do it without crap and farts then let him write it.
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Is Dragofag around?
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Sonic Underground is the first Sonic show to have mandates, that's why Sonic has six quills in every rear shot and why his pinky is poorly drawn.
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>>563338689
Damn, I got a boner.
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>>563338448
>Shadow shoved in for no fucking reason
I'd actually be fine with it if Shadow was retroactively the Sonic-with-redeyes-guy.
Hell, ANYONE is better than the stupid senile wizard.
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A satam relaunch in the era where Sega of America pander to Sonadow faggots would be the funniest disaster
the guy who wrote satam is dead and ian was the one who came up with the super genocide wave
do you actually trust the current people?
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If Pokemon can literally have it be canon that humans and pokemon can interbreed and marry each other then there is no reason why Sonic can't have interspecies relationships with humans other than because Sonic Team and SEGA are FUCKING COWARDS!
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>>563338657
Evan Japan is aware of the problem of Amy's love for Sonic being removed by SOA
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>>563338994
Stop lobbying for your fetish in a franchise for little kids
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Sonic should be like the attitude era. Nothing more, and nothing less.
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>>563338994
Pokemon writers change shit due to fandom bullying unlike based Sonic writers
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>>563339206
That era is long past, shit is too woke now
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>>563339210
That was because they fucked with shippers and you never fuck with shippers
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>>563339202
The world revolves around SEX faggot. Get over it!
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SLUTade
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>>563339206
Agreed, Sonic should crack open beers and stunner Eggman a few times
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>>563337340
WTF they already did this EXACT same layout pretty much, just swapped Nicole with Chip. Lazy fucks.
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>>563339228
Think I got it. What do you guys think?
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>>563339064
Anon, your aim...
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>>563339459
Nicole stole this from Mina
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>>563339410
>Shadow appearing in the ring after to lights go out and hitting Eggman with a Tombstone Piledriver
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>>563339470
to get SOJ to get their act together and stop SOA
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>>563339459
Sonic's a vocalist not a guitarist.
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>>563339210
Sonic writers would be significantly more based if they actually cared about what fans wanted instead of jerking each other off all the time.
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>>563339459
>>563337340
The reboot fucking sucked. It coasts on your familiarity with satam and the games instead of telling a story. It's a hub where you are just supposed to imagine it. You are supposed to imagine that Shadowfall is the payoff for an offscreen series of Shadow adventures that never fucking happened. It's like the final season of a show that never got imported. It was so ass it legitimately makes me angry that they killed Elias for this crap.
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>>563339581
They don't care. No one cares.
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Beautiful men
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>>563339459
lol it looks like Chip and Cheese are outside while Cream and Amy celebrate their demise.
>that hat under Bunnie's bed
Cheeky cunts...
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>>563339647
No this is based. Nintendo's whole "the fans are always right" method is why their characters will never be as compelling as Sonic's. Imagine changing the plot of your story just because some shippertards got mad.

Look at Sonic. The biggest shipping fandom in the fanbase is seething because of Sonamy and Sega doesn't care. That is better than bending over and taking it like Pokemon did.
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>>563339524
True but Mina didn't do anything with other girls, only the boys.
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>>563339771
for >>563337340
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I want to hold hands with Sally Acorn
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>>563339464
Look ok I suppose. Would have liked blue boots more and I'm just not a fan of the proportions
She's sexy, but for an actual Sally design I prefer having either her satam proportions or something
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>>563339665
And it made Sally and Nicole gay for no reason.
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>>563339854
I hate Nicole!
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Sometimes I like to imagine what this fandom would be like if SATAM (and by virtue IDW) never existed. What a paradise.
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>>563339837
You could've just admitted that you're ok with SOA ruining characters
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>>563339665
BUT HONEY'S IN ITTTTT!!!
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>>563340057
>ruining
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La Creatura
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>>563339837
Okay
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>>563339901
I want to stroke Sonic's quills
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>>563338945
Wouldn't Metal Sonic have made more sense?
There was also that thing from the final stage of Sonic 2
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>>563339920
Anon, Nicole was given a body JUST SO she can be yuri with Sally.
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>>563340181
Sexo
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>>563340084
>"where was she when I was in middle school" the character
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Prower Industries should make underwear
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>>563339854
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>>563337658
>Sally has two right feet in this image
You had ONE FUCKING JOB
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>>563340382
Oh, fuck, that's sexy
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>>563337658
>>563340410
good point *drops nicole in the water*
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>>563340498
Bunnie...
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>>563339901
>>563340190
You're both gay
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>>563340308
Ayayayayayay!
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>>563340382
>Defensive swordplay against Antoine
I would win immediately. I don't need no lessons for something I have already mastered.
>Phys Ed with Sonic
As long as the reward is sleeping in the same room with him
>Flight lessons with Tails
Hell no
>And computer Programming alongside Rotor
YES
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>>563340303
SatAM season 3 would've revealed she was Sally’s childhood friend whose mind was digitized by Eggman, and she would've gotten her body back but she's still a kid thanks to cryogenics. Sally would've adopted her. This was known since 2011.
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>>563340719
bitch are you an ancient master swordsman??
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>>563340653
I'm still straight but you can think what you want
>b-but Liking men as a man means your gay!
Man?
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>>563340370
Where'd he get the capital for this? Who's funding him?
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>>563340657
Un chico zorro tan dulce y tierno.
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>>563340719
>I would win immediately. I don't need no lessons for something I have already mastered.
This is the least believable thing I've ever read here.
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Thread is too peaceful so I'm going to mention Shadally
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>>563340571
If I could be Bunnie for just a day...
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>>563340771
>Sally would've adopted her.
Stop saying this nonsense. This is untrue.
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>>563340996
You forgot to post the chair. Here let me help.
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>>563340382
Tails teaching Mina to fly the tornado is easy shipping set up
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>>563340913
Tails got a bonification from world governments and built his empire from there

>>563340918
^-^
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>>563340951
Sword fighting is literally my only talent next to singing
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>>563340996
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uRLJZxINAQ
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>>563340908
scarcos i wish you weren't born a woman so then I could suck your cock...
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>>563341204
Mina you don't know how to fight....
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>>563341118
I'M MAD! KILL ALL ARCHIENIGGERS! TWIST THEIR FUCKING NUTS OFF!
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>>563341204
Antoine will skillstomp you bro
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>>563340996
Shadally?
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>>563341204
That's pretty cool, but no matter how weak Antoine is compared to like every character around him I doubt you could win against a fictional character. he's managed to cut through badniks even in preboot and I doubt the average man could do that
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>>563341415
Swiss Amy?
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>>563341198
So is "Nicole fucking DIED but backed up her data at the Skypatrol in the nick of time."
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>>563341269
I kinda forgor that singing is Mina's thing.
>>563341338
Doubt it
>>563341415
sybau
>>563341470
Man?
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>>563341582
Man, woman, whatever
human being
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Rivals
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>>563341415
this archiedow always gets me
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>>563339916
>Would have liked blue boots more and I'm just not a fan of the proportions
Perchance is limited when it comes to proportions. Tried to fix it in Gemini but it wouldn't take and I didn't want to waste all my tries.
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>>563341775
>>563341775
>>563341775
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>>563341582
>sybau
Gosh, please... Don't say these things here..
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>>563339916
nah Sally should be closer to Rouge's proportions, say if Rouge is a 10 and Cream is a 1 Sally should an 8
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Fiona
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Hershey
Jian
Whisper
Salugh
Saleta
Sonia
Thunderbolt
Ebony
Tikal
Sticks
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Alucion
Mina
Nicole
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Pane
Wave
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