recon cock edition>Marathon Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@MarathonTheGame>Game Info:https://store.steampowered.com/app/3065800/Marathon/>Marathon Game Home Pagehttps://www.marathonthegame.com/>The Entire History of Marathonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu7uN6-lNhk [Embed] [Open] [Embed] [Open]https://marathon.bungie.org/story/>Play the Original Marathon for Freehttps://store.steampowered.com/app/2398450/Classic_Marathon/Databases:https://tauceti.world/https://tauceti.gg/https://marathonmeta.gg/https://marathondb.gg//vg/ Discord:https://discord.gg/RDy8sPCeKcNews:>Experimental Queue coming Wednesday 4/15 at 10 am PT>RECENT PATCH NOTEShttps://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/marathon_update_1053>SEASONS & ROADMAPhttps://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/introducing_seasons_marathon>MARATHON OST VOL. I & II OUThttps://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n3mqJXB_rxXOGplviv8tGdXtHDdL9grK4https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k_FhqMdjI4UChXwooy0VROM84xgCi8JM0>RANKED DETAILShttps://x.com/TauCetiGG/status/2033929468713308638>CRYO ARCHIVE DETAILShttps://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/cryo_archive_overviewPrevious Run >>563244880
i hate heat cascade so fucking much
Why'd you make another one
>>563355983to make the mindraped halo tard seethe
>Should have let it die edition
Marty won
>failing at the easiest grift in existance
>>563356469they weren't making a halo general tho?
>no friends>dont want to run this shit with random fillstime to sell em
Chuds got owned
>outpost fill>three free kits>nothing to lose>run up on some blues and purples>we skin them and exfilWhat a weird, fast match. No idea why this guy brought in all this gear AND a Marathon key for some reason. Oh well, all mine now.
holy deadgameroni
>>563355867Why wouldn't they just attach a bigger cyber-penis?
Installed to let my last purple shield go, theres no fucking loot on cryo no more. Uninstalled after my death, at least got one fucker nad last team to miss their exfil
>Knife 10 fuckers for ArachneGoes surprisingly well.
Where the fuck is the hype?
the general wasn't even dead you retards just forgot to make a new threadgirl on the left owes me sex
>>563360752>the general wasn't even deadGood one
>>563356646/ourguy/ MartyHe wonTrump wonBungay lost BIGLY
>>563360867Yeah bro 819 replies is dead as shit
>>563360979400 of those were me making fun of it and (You)
what happened to>Im having A FUN>Bungie returned to form>This is like halo!>I don't care about numbers, the weekend will save us!>This game is A FUN!this thread is just filled with people laughing at this trans coded game
whats the deal with cryo and preservation, everytime ive spawned there we've been bum rushed by another squad
>>563361079>half the general was calling the game shitSo just like every general then?
>>563361330Name one besides /dg/
>>563361117I like the game but it gets worse and worse each day as only gold geared gods and free kit rats are left. There's also just not much to do. It's hard to believe it took 5 of years of dev time to get 4 maps and only Cryo and Pinwheel has any real objectives.
>This shit cost at least $260M>4 maps>7 heroes>Dead after 2 weeks
>>563355971I read in the tool tips that hardware helps with that. Who'd've fuck'n thought?
>>563361428Jackie Chan
>>563361428/mrg//dlg//owg//fog/I don't remember the name but the Roguelike general was full of complaining the last time I checkedIs the /mtgag/ general still a thing? That was a big one for shitposting about how awful the game was
Give us this day our daily seethe.And forgive us our trespasses,as we forgive thosewho trespass against us.
Hey guys is your WSTR as cool as mine?
>Saturday night>Player count goes downI thought everyone was busy on Friday night
>>563364880Turbo button?
>>563364880Commence the jigglin y'all
>>563365607Some weird interaction with the gold mod Repeater in my other slot. On the one hand - free ammo/weirdly fast reload, on the other, the extra shells from carnage cartridge and the reload from empty chip didn't work.
>>563365781Neat
>Got three new uniques, two cryo keys, and a gold leg implant What's your Cryo haul this weekend boys?
>>563366575NOTHING I LOST EVERYTHING
>>563365308KWAB
>>563366575First subroutine. We also actually cleared vault 02, but crew member who had the subroutine got fucked up by bots on the way to final exfil and died. I got to play with some gold mods I had bought from Traxus through the week which was fun, gold mod Misriah is a fuckin menace, gold mod magnum is fucking worthless, gold repeater is ass against players but >>563364880 was fun. Only got completely got by the server fucking up once, overall this was our best/most fun Cryo rotation yet.
Do you think next week's update will contain a bunch of band-aid fixes to alleviate casual players' pain points? Would it be enough to regain some of the players who've bounced? Would it put off the diehard fans who want the balance to remain untouched?
>>563367318I hope it doesn't go too casual
>>563367318This must be your first Bungie game. Free updates never fix anything, you need to pay for an expansion or sequel for any meaningful changes.
>>563367463>>563367318Realistically, I think people just want to be able to consistently make budget kits if you aren't that great. I am an incredibly mediocre player. I hit a snag where I run out of backpacks, out of credits and out of green shields. So you can definitely be soft bricked and then forced to free kit. What might go a long way is that escaping with a sponsored kit will net you some bonus gear only after the raid. It can change depending on the sponsored kit maybe. So escaping wiith a NuCal free kit or sponsored kit will great you some bonus med kits and shields. Escaping with a CYAC free kit will net you a green backpack or something. Just little things.
>>563367318Doubtful, I don't think we'll see any meaningful changes until season 2, and maybe not even then since it's probably still on rails content determined before launch. They will probably fix some sticking points for the people who are still here, like the Recon/Vandal changes, hopefully at least trying to fix the hit-reg / rubberband problems relating to ladders.I imagine the CARRI event will be something that will attempt to help new players but will probably not really amount to much.
>>563367318hold on let me jus- AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA anon I-I AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
I wish they'd make Vandal slimmer
I wish they'd rape you to death
>>563367318yes because ziegler already confirmed we're getting someany fix is just going to be a bandaid over a gaping wound though. rushing spawn will always be the best play with the current map sizes and movement speed, and they can't easily change either
>>563371229I'm guessing this will be knockdown shields like Apex?
>>563371229if only they could spare a million dollars to make some fucking maps
I love that the character whose only redeeming factor is a double jump can't use guns while jumping
>>563372589god please no
>>563372770>using the freekit hardline instead of instantly killing the first robot you see for a v11 or a volt thrower
>>563372770Why are you running hardline bwo
>>563372870Yeah idk, I'm struggling to understand what he's saying with "common option" and "merciful option" like what more could you do in a downed state that isn't already there.
Is this thing any good?
>>563373205In Arc you can use defibrilators on enemy players, I think that's what they are trying to do
>>563373326you can already drop a self-revive if you really want to rez an enemy, who the fuck is going to do that for no reason?
>>563373392It's pretty cumbersome to do that when they can just streamline it to pushing a button
Why do retards insist on playing this no mic and team muted? I have had three dipshits who clearly have us muted and do not talkTurn friendly fire on so I can kill these cock suckers
It's over
>>563373451but there's still no reason to do it, it's not going to "add texture" to fights because literally no one is ever going to think>well i downed this guy but now that i see the revive prompt i want to pick him up and be best friends
>>563373713Happens all the time in Arc. Maybe they are reconsidering the KoS hardcore approach because of the playercount
>>563373081>>563373115I was kinda just throwing gear away, I also had a thermal sniper, which I fucking hate. The next round I managed this beauty. This shot going insanely wide left was the margin by which this fuckass assassin managed to knife me because I fucked up my first 3 shots (this was number 1)I'm not having a great time in Dire Marsh.
Still not playing Cryo until they add Duos or Solos to it.
>>563373673Why was EU CCU peak higher than NA this time? wtf?
>>563373926The auto tracking has been kind of fucky for me lately, I think they reduced the homing arc or something secretly. Feels like I need to be pretty dead on for the bullets to actually start tracking.
>>563374030that was a Punch, so no tracking, just kinda bad luck that I didn't react fast enough (2 frame prior he was left and in my reticule) and the hipfire inaccuracy sent it wide left instead of wide right. I didn't play it well either, but also I'm just doing 50c Co-Evolution 4 suicide runs at this point so no big loss.
>>563374173oh rip then, thumbnail kind of looked like a volt thrower so I just didn't really look properly when I opened it
>>563373964It's not
Does Orion have the same voice actor as Vander? Sounds extremely similar
>>563374614Orion is hot, I wish we could side with UESC and fuck over the stupid corpo shill runners
27k peak on Saturday lol
Godamn people are bored, 3 runs in a row someone is just camping on top of bio-research waiting for someone doing one of the 800 billion contracts that require you to run through there. Is the free kit goop so alluring?
>>563375607Retards running thru bio research looking for upgrade material are free money
Bubble needs to be deleted, not nerfed not reworked not turned into a 2x2 slot. It needs to vanish. Fucking dogshit item that negates anything punished from being caught out in the open and poor position
>>563375718lol sucks for those high rollers I guess I brought a cardio kick and a bio-chain
>>563376329Theres a reason Gibraltar only has 1 dome on a cool down in apex the bubble is oppressive
>>563376329Brother Bungie has been addicted to bubble cancer for 20 years nowThey have kept doing it when everyone tells them they're dogshit in every gameIt's not gonna happen, they're obsessed with the bubbles.
Do chems splash into bubbles?
thinkin about biting the bullet on this game, worth picking up rn or will there be a sale soon, also ill be solo only, still worth?
>>563377574Big time
>>563377574>solo onlyThere's a lot to do solo only, but you are by definition locked out of the 4th map unless you're willing to queue with randos or find a few people to play with, and it's absolutely sweaty enough that you will need to talk to stand a chance.I'm not sure that'll ever change, and it sucks. Two of the other three maps are great though, Dire Marsh is a fucking shithole that you'll dread having to engage with at all solo.
>>563377769what about the 4th map makes it not queueable solo?
>>563377886It's trios only, can't queue solo on it but that may change later
>unload 4 shots of WSTR into a purple shield point blank>whips around and two-taps me>we both go down>he has self rez>teammates doesnt come finish him quick enoughAMAZING GAME BUNGIE THANK YOU FOR THESE PAJEET NIGGER SERVERS
>>563377886It's just locked to trios only. The reasoning is presumably that there's too many enemy NPC bots to really deal with solo reasonably, you kill roughly 30 bots in the first two rooms within like 2-3 minutes, and then breach the thunderdome with more bots and where all the players collide and high value loot is. The map is also designed to be big and fairly labyrinthine, and has a boss at the end that is sorta like a baby's first destiny raid boss - fairly simple mechanics, but 100% designed with three people doing it in mind.It would also be a fucking horrible map to do solo as solo is VERY assassin heavy, and Cryo (4th map name) is very dark/blue in a lot of places, where assassin's cloak ability works really, really fucking well. So it would just turn into a miserable rat nest map where Assassins just camp corners/vents hoping to surprise other people with shotgun instant-kills.
Thief shouldn't be able to see other players with her visor if Im being honest. That alone makes her better than Recon, if accounting for the Recon buffs coming next week
>>563378576The secret to this is if you don't want to kill them just down them and let them crawl in
>>563378765It only works out to like 40m, and someone should absolutely have a built in counter to Assassin's fuckass invisibility. Recon would be a perfect shell to have that aspect instead, maybe just replace interrogate with a threat detector visor since interrogate is mostly fuckin useless.
>>563378907Nah, I think I fully ran out of tries to give. The boring cryo run with shit loot, this rook run. I hadn't uninstalled ever since last time I played. Would be too performative but got rid of this and deadlock right now. It's just boring you know? prox chat never gets anything to do and everyone is a murderhobo. PVP alone isn't exciting.
>>563379082Ok see ya namefag you already said you were leaving anyway
The same thing that got me tilted on the 3 red keys run where i gave them to someone else basically. This rook run.After playing deadlock, I was bad but then I got better and really, at least that respects your time. You get on a shit fucking match and it's your own fault for not farming the waves or not building right. BS game too.>>563379383Yeah I was gone though most of these past threads and it's not like the generals are packed of content to read lol, this shit is going to /vm/ like apex soon enough
>>563379462Ok byee
>pinwheel is the only thing worth running when cryo isn't open>not even outpost in general, literally just pinwheelit's a well-designed arena but holy shit it's getting old. i wish lockdowns weren't so annoying to run
>>563380493I honestly think the only lockdown area that is a piece of shit is the Maintenance one. I've had no end of teams just shuffling around at the back and waiting for someone to turn the event on
>>563380493This is a huge issue and they made it even worse by increasing pinwheel loot. Perimeter and Marsh may as well not exist.
>>563379462Make me cum to Slayyy again.
>>563380774Beautiful and this is why I keep posting here, I wanted to catch you.Hi! Add me!You still play this shit, I am finally done with it. It's so cucked of a genre.
>>563380774I've been giving this shit game countless attempts just so I could be updated enough for you to reply to me. Eventually in this thread...Who would do that? Moron...
>>563380557lockdowns aren't hard they're just not worth it because they're not guaranteed
>>563381170Yes, they ain't when the terminal is placed at the edge of the lockdown area, so teams can just rat right next to it without even using an anti-virus, then swoop in once the other team fights bots. It's especially shit in Maintenance because the terminal is placed straight next to the high wall, so teams can just wait behind and chuck nades inside.
>>563373241maybe sometimes. id stick to bully only as long as you have ranged mods for 30-40m.
>>563373241if you can get the recoil/ads mods for it its pretty ok
>Vault full>Take some of my best gear to Cryo Archive>Try my best, but die>Don't even feel bad about it, and now I have more vault space
>>563382045you've discovered the loop fren...
>>563371229>rushing spawn will always be the best play with the current map sizes and movement speed, and they can't easily change eitherThey could space out spawns, making sure that 2 spawn points next to each other are never used at the same time.
>>563355867anyone playing in aus servers, is it dead?
>>563382045I'm sitting on a purple m77 rn
>>563367318Maybe. There should also be Recon and Vandal buffs and a new CARRI event, whatever that is. I've seen people speculate that it stands for Cryo Archive Rook Run Initiative, but that's stupid.
>>563382449Maybe it'll rotate certain maps with additional carrier drone spawns, events and a bunch of incentives to go play a specific map which rotates daily?
>>563380493>>563380686Marsh technically has the anomaly but the map is even more dangerous than Outpost and the anomaly is more dangerous than clearing Pinwheel. Perimeter is the beginner map but it could really use something to do.
>>563383002That and specific Lockdown oriented loot. Lockdowns are honestly the best singular sources for guaranteed Biolens Seeds, Shell ID's and Reflex Coils, without having to rummage through the entirety of Pinwheel.
>chillin in some fuck off corner of cryo>this fag runs up and domes mecheating situation is crazy
>only meaningful content update we’re getting is night mode dire marsh (the worst map) in june >bungie insists on saving the duos update for season 2 (june)>bungie has to run the gauntlet of may while the game drops 10k~ concurrents every week>every weekly patch is minuscule, no big swings anywhere>
/vm/ soon
>>563361117Those faggots are fair-weather gamers. They got their 50 hours of a blast, and fucked off. Unfortunately, these are the worst people you want to attract. Because they glaze your ass with their toxic positivity and then don't even stick around to play your live service game and keep it alive.
>>563386804umm ackshually 25k is normal for an extraction shooter you stupid fucking chud. Maybe this game isn't for you?
>>563355867anyone got a steam game key?
>>563373673The raped.
Vibe: Shifted
>it's shitskin hours
aggro destroyer actually just fucks everything up, shits kinda insane
You fools. Don't you understand? No one wishes to go on.
New mode is casual rape fest
>>563384331>playstation symbolits like the last remaining players are all destiny console subhumans. actually noticed it a lot lately>you VILL get aimbotted
I don't know what Bungie was thinking with the progression in this game
>>563393572they weren't
Just rubberbanded out of cover into a outland.How has your ///RUNS/// been /mg/?
Solo is genuine deplorable dogshit
>>563357196Solo queue exists.
>>563373825Arc has drop in and a way higher player count in lobbies compared to marathon, I could see this working in solos MAYBE, but the whole fixed player limit makes things weird for balancing the game.
>>563373825>Happens all the time in ArcSure, but Marathon has a slight difference from Arc.
>Sure, but Marathon has a slight difference from Arc.
>>563399218Praise the sacred thermodynamics of violence!
How will the sacred thermodynamics of violence help us with this slight difference from Arc?
>>563399768By enhancing PvP mechanics instead of diluting them. I'd rather Marathon die than become a hugbox like Arc.
>>56339976869 000 dads skinned and sent back to play pretend friends in their proxy chat.
>>563366575This is the first weekend cryo is gonna end and I’ve got like 2 guns left but my wallet is bigger and I’m up 2 prestige, a handful of purple salvage and 1 subroutine which is usually how it goes but I also usually break even on my WSTR stock. Might do one or two runs today and see if I can vacuum some off corpses for next cryoGetting progressively sweatier every week now that average teams also move towards the spawn rush meta. The average fill queue player isn’t prepared to bunker down and counter rushes yet either
>>563399876straight from the marketing campaign script
>>563400104Thank you.
>>563399218le retarded thermodynamics faec>>563399920le retarded permanent marker faec
>>563400457you need to go back
ermmmm if bungie could seperate platforms and remove the retarded aim assist that'd be great
>>563401374I'd rather play against console aimbotters than full blown PC hackers.
ermmmm if bungie could remove this retarded game from existence that'd be great
>>563401374not a hugbox btw
>>563401374Aim assist is the core of bungies gunplay
>>563400649le retarded raped faec
>>563399768Does more people playing necessarily mean better game though? Because a lot of people play that gacha horse girl game and I am pretty sure that game is ass.
>>563403405No! We need masses of third world players and even more cheaters, don't you see?
>>563403405>>563403520the coping phase
>>563403664>"It'll die any second now, we promise!"
>>563403405We need less players so we can have nice and comfy 20 minute queues just to land in a lobby with a hacker every other game.
>>563403768>here's why marathon having 1k players is actually a good thing
>>563403405of course not.Unfortunately, something not being popular doesn't mean it's good either, something most 4channers and teenagers struggle with. And as Marathon, or any live service online-only game goes, more players makes a better game for all the people playing it. Ever played an old MP game where the only people still playing it have been doing so for 10 years and have forgotten more about the game than you'll ever learn? It's a bad experience unless you're a masochist.But also this game just won't exist if it doesn't get more players, more pressingly, so it really doesn't matter. If you wanna play the game you want more players.
>>563403903>here's why my 16 videos of Marathon dying faster than Concord/Highguard combined missed the mark.
>>563403520Wake up! A new marathon cope just dropped!
the layoffs are comingpredict the number
just realized I haven’t been raped for almost a Fortnite now, feels bretty good, decided to boughted Starfield since it has been fixed and might delete Marathon, but might wait for the Night Rape map
>>563404582>60k is good>50k is good>40k is good>30k is good>20k is goodkeep moving that goal post>BUT YOU SAID IT WAS A CONCO-no i didnt. it sure is a big flop though. 3.6 billion dollar studio, other games are dead and this one clearly missed the mark.
>>56340538490% of them most likely unless a miracle happens in the next year
Today might be the day. Woke up, full day off, coffee ready... Not much desire to play. The constant narrative about how hard the game has gotten is wearing on me and I don't feel like opening the game because I'm afraid of just getting washed all day. Like no matter how hard I fight or how good I get, some team in my level bracket is just going to shit down my throat and all of it will be for nothing. Any way to beat this? Is there hope? Is there something I can do, or is this just it? I'm the bottom 10% now and so I quit?
>it doesn't have to be Destiny numbers>it doesn't have to beat ARC Raiders>it doesn't have to have good matchmaking>it doesn't have to fix the UI that's still a psychedelic fever dream>it doesn't have to fix netcode rubberbanding across Tau Ceti>it doesn't have to let you read terminals without squinting at ASCII vomit>it doesn't have to have voice chat that isn't DOA>it doesn't have to stop crashing on extract>it doesn't have to have destructible environments worth a damn>it doesn't have to fix audio bugs sounding like they're underwater in Australia>it doesn't have to not feel like $40 Concord with moth aesthetics>it doesn't have to address the plagiarism receipts Bungie swept under the rug after "crediting" the artist>it doesn't have to have players outside 3-hour peak windows>it doesn't have to not get compared to The Finals every thread>it doesn't have to save Bungie from another Sony bailout rumor>it doesn't have to be the spiritual successor oldfags begged for>it doesn't have to have good music beyond zoomer hyperpop slop>it doesn't have to let solos queue without getting farmed>it doesn't have to fix the blurry chromatic aberration mess>it doesn't have to not feel empty despite "massive" maps>it doesn't have to have substance beyond "extract biomass lol">it doesn't have to be Marathon*SLUUUUUURRRRRPPPP*
I tried so hardAnd went not very farBut in the end it didn't even matter
>>563406870>Any way to beat this?Why do you need a way to beat that?If you're not having fun, stop playing, uninstallAnd then wait. A future update might alleviate some of the pain points, and then you can pick the game back up. Or they might not, and the game just dies. This is Bungie after all.But I don't know why you would torture yourself by trying to play a game you're clearly not enjoying anymore
To me, I can't feel the difference in players. My queue times have always been short. I play at different times as well. Just never at like 2-3am my time. So if my queue speeds are always the same, why does player count matter?
>play trios>connection issues out the ass every 8 minutes>play rook>connection is fine for hoursIgnore me.
>>563407502It's not that I don't enjoy it I just feel like there's no way to improve with the way the game is currently set up. Solos is just a stealth avoidance game. Trios will match you with ultra sweats where you just get creamed every game. So what's the point? Where can I get better?
>Harass a team as a rook>They all have purple shields>Fuck off after downing and killing one of them but they're hunting me down>Manage to hide in drone wing>They mistake another rook in pinwheel for me while searching>Can hear them talking in the prox chat followed by gunfire>"PLEASE BRO I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING IM FRIE-">*muffled blam blam*>quietly slip out and exfil
>>563404582>noooo you're wrong it wasnt an utter failure because it lasted a bit longer before shutting down
>>563377574It depends on whether you like extraction shooters or not, especially ones where in solos the playerbase is hostile 9 times out of 10. It’s not as bad as it’s made out to be and there is genuine fun to be had, but the lows in the game can truly be crushing.
why am I such a cheapskate? I could rock several great gear sets and stash is full but instead I rook when I die and then use whatever gear I gained on rook.
>>563377574>or will there be a sale soonNo>also ill be solo only, still worth?No use discord
What's the maximum you've gone with an enduring weapon? I had a bully that I got to 4x and then I got nervous and sold it with two purples and two blues for 7.1k. I was waiting to find two more purple attachments before selling and I wasn't going to risk 5x, but I needed that fuckin' vault space to stock up on barter goods.
>>563410786This is the gameplay loop I'm at, unfortunately. My friend isn't Cryo ready and we don't have a third, so I'm saving all the great shit for that. But it means I have my hands tied as far as playing with any of it.
>>563377574>will there be a sale soonat this point the game is doing so poorly and things are looking so incredibly dire that I can almost guarantee if you wait till the next season it will be F2P, or shuttered, just hold on anon, you really don’t want to join the Raped
>>563411510they are honest to god fools not doing a free weekend at this pointthere are plenty of people that didn't play the server slam, or wrote off the server slam, that would probably be willing to check it out after the massive hatetrain started to die down and a tiny little ember of "actually maybe there's something to this?" began to spreadbut now I think they've waited too long and those who might have cared have completely moved on and dropped it from their brainspace
>>563411803A free weekend would only work at the launch of a new season, newbies would still be going up against a huge knowledge gap against vets but at the very least there would be no colored loot disparity. If a free weekend user were to jump in now, they’d absolutely get the floor wiped with them and truly write the game off then and there.
>>563407864Live service multiplayer games need money, they get that money from players.
>>563413452A free weekend will (most likely) bring in thousands of new players at once and that's going to mean there'll be, even by statistical randomness with no matchmaker, a lot of new people facing mostly new people.I don't think waiting for the next season is going to do them any favors. There was a window (and I guess we're still vaguely in it) where the fires died down and people started looking into it to see if maybe there was something there, but now the narrative is swinging back when people look in that the game is a nightmare mess unless you've really gotten hooked into their promises. They had a good period to capitalize on the "actually this game is great!" crowd getting their voice out, but now the people who were saying that have started breaking and even the subreddit can't keep up the positivity.
They already tried a free weekend and it didn't work, remember?
Why are the Marathon players scrambling to try to save and fix the game when Bungie should be? Pearl Abyss isn't just sitting there, they're pushing out massive updates every week that directly address feedback and communicate that they are actually working on larger changes at the same time. All Marathon gets is "ok here's duos for 5 days and then it goes away until some undetermined time". We get a patch in a few days but it's only going to be some small bug fixes. Bungie is just a bad developer.
>have purple 10k gearset>accidentally go trio instead of solo cuz it never saves your fucking setting>two freekit NGGERS >get wiped by full purp faggot retard stack that almost dies
>>563414303honestly I tried really hard to get into the alpha/beta whatever, but their discord was a single general chat and some other cryptic access places, and then a hoard of peasants begging for an invite to the test. Throngs of people, dying to get in. There was no information about how to apply, just a survey and a promised emailed confirmation. Everyone was begging, screaming even, to be let in. They were seething, and so was I for a moment. On top of this, you had players quickly returning with their review. "Game's not even good, wouldn't continue playing." Clear across the board, the writing was on the wall. They had a nice wave of freeple trying to get in just to see the new hotness, and then casuals that would log in and bounce hard off of the game's difficult nature. I had written the game off as being a long way from release, so i unplugged and stopped going there because I was unsuccessful at jumping through the hoops to get invites. If I had known about the server access I would've been happy to try it. I hear so many stories from these reviewers about that experience, that everything was new and there were tons of folks that had NO idea what the hell was happening. I jumped in right in the middle of week one at launch instead. Still got that immediate wave crest of unskilled server population. I miss it, to be honest.
>>563414303i remember people saying that of COURSE people were dropping the game one day after the server slam launched, theyre waiting for the real release duh!JEJ
>>563367723you should work on your nucaloric contracts! i was having the problem of not having enough shields and heals and that helped. it's kinda hard finding unstable biomass to unlock the free patch kits daily but it's worth it
The game is good. I'd just say that its difficult for weak spirited players. Honestly, the same bunch of people who bounce off of dark souls and soulslikes are the same bunch of people that bounce off here. If you look at the kinds of games they do play however, its usually low stakes "chill" games. If most gamers are these "dude chill" types, then we are doomed. I have met more people who said "Yeah man, I tried dark souls but I kept dying on the first boss so I turned it off." than I have met people who beat the game. Hard games are for gamers for sure. But the medium has been infiltrated by weak willed players who water down everything unfortunately.
>>563414627Because there's nothing to fix.The game is entirely built around an imaginary genre that make no sense.It's FUBAR.
>>563415308my nucaloric is level 21 now. I basically only focused on them for like 10 hours. But I am a shitter and die a lot but its fun. I just like being able to bring in 3 green patch kits and 3 green shield charges.
>>563415525People bounce off bad games.Marathon isn't a difficult game, it's an idiotic game.
>>563415525Really liked Dark Souls. Didn't like this game. Game sucks.
>>563415702that's why it's fun. yes it's stupid to play fps in the grand canyon but it's play, like kids do.
>>563415702This. Even if Marathon was a truly difficult game, that's not what's preventing it from being popular. Dark Souls and Elden Ring are fucking huge because they're well-designed and fun, Marathon just isn't.
>People hate hard games, fucking plebs!Okay so why did millions and millions of people buy Elden Ring, which has the hardest boss fights out of any Dark Souls game?>Uhm errrr....FUCK YOU CHUD!
>>563414627Bungie is just a studio that's known for offloading the work onto the fans ever since Destiny. They have good elements are parts to them, but their onboarding process became dogshit since D2 Shadowkeep.
The genre taps humans in a way that most find uncomfortable. Like most people are risk averse to a very very extreme degree. You don't realize it but the vast majority of people aren't gamblers. A casino would make you think otherwise but most people aren't gamblers. In a game like this, you are effectively gambling your gear and people don't like that unsure feeling of "I may lose this." However, I don't see it as gambling and I don't even see it as a risk. I just see it as everything is liquid and I am using this liquid as a way to achieve the goals I want. For example, I want to feel myself improving or playing better which I have been. I also want to see the lore and setting more. As well as get into build crafting a bit more. I like scrounging around and trying to overcome obstacles. So to me, there is no risk and there is no gamble. The gear is just gear.
>>563416142Elden Ring isn't hard, outside of Malenia and DLC Radahn.
you dont lose all your progress in elden ring and everyone can overcome bosses eventually. most people cant overcome getting assfucked by better players though. beating elden ring and getting good against actual human opponents are two entirely different things.>he fell for the dumb ragebaiting destiny chudik, im retarded
>>563415775>Dark souls>>>>>>>>>>>hard
I honestly don't believe game populations should ever be a factor in if the game is "alive" or not. I play quake champions frequently and its a good day if that game gets 1000 players. The fucking gacha horse game has 400k players or some shit. So games that are good like quake live or quake champions have lower populations but games that are true ass like horse race gacha game have 400k plus? This leads me to belive that shit games can have high players and good games can have low players.
>>563416253the thrill of losing a 3000 credit assault rifle is keeping me off the crypto casinos desu
>>563415991>>563416142soulsfaggots can't even beat ultimate zinaida
>>563416407>everyone can overcome bosses eventually.Absolutely not true given how some peoples souls are created. I have met people who forced themselves to fight tree sentinel over and over again in Elden Ring and then they quit because they thought the game was setting them up to fail. Some people are dumb as fucking rocks in addition to having a weak soul. What you described is NOT the norm. The souls games have more people that quit them than they do people that beat them.
>Starfeld CCU is demolishing Marathon CCUStarfield! FUCKING STARFIELD!!! Bungo offices must be an absolute warzone…
I saw a video today about how Rook might be Marathon's version of a seasonal artifact because of its entry saying that Rooks meant to be tinkered with.
>>563416253it is funny how much fun the BR33 is to use and how the thought of losing it and being forced to play with the Overrun makes me feel so much less excited to launch the game at all
>>563416914>NOt ThE NoRm
Add pve nigga
>>563417385What? I don't know what your screen shot proves. That boss is mandatory to fight if you want to beat the game. Elden ring came out what.. 4 years ago? So in 4 years only 40 percent of people have that achievement? Seems like a lot of people had their soul broken at one point and never returned.
>>563417414Remove pve cracka
>>563417414Depends on how its implemented. IF they just add "Maps but PvE" its going to fuck the balance too much. Because then the play is to just do Outpost but PvE then take the loot you acquired in PvE into PvP which is lame in my opinion. There is no way they can make the risk the same between both the modes. In all comes down to risk balance. If one mode is significantly more easy to gain loot in, people will just do that.
>>563417602its like the second last boss chud. in fact most bosses have a success rate of well over 40% from the players.that such a large % of players beat most bosses in the game obviously tells us that it is in fact the norm.
Realistically, how much should a game coddle to more "casual" players? I think Arc Raiders probably took the spectrum the wrong way. Apparently in the game if you do get into the "Rape Free" lobbies, you basically never lose loot. So how do they ever keep any tension in the lobbies? Or is it literally just giant kumbaya loot fests of people just roaming around and opening cabinets?
>>563418092>40 percent is large>that boss is second to lastWhat the fuck is going on here? The point I am making is that for a game that has been out for 4 years, the expectation on completion should be higher. Its not because people get filtered. Hard. That boss you screen shotted should realistically be 80+ completion because it has been out forever now and he is mandatory. But he doesn't. Why?
>>563418442bruh most people dont play elden ring for 4 years retard
It's over for Marathon, space Tarkov is coming.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HXp0KTNBm4
>>563418709I'm not playing Slavshit or stuff starring SlavsI want to play as hot chicks
I didn't play Marathon at all yesterday
>>563418709>space tarkovthats marathon>all that storycrap and worldbuilding and marketing bullshitthis game is going to suck ass
>>563418229>Realistically, how much should a game coddle to more "casual" players?Zero amount, casuals are scum
>>563416707Yeah but if I tried playing Quake Champions today, I would have a miserable time getting smeared into the floor by people that haven't stopped playing since launch. So is the current state of Marathon. This is how games die.
>>563419083Marathon isn't Tarkov, it's Destiny 2 gambit but worse.
Literally all they need to do is enable some form of SBMM into season two and the entire game will feel better for it. If they aren't doing this behind the scenes already, they're completely delusional and the game is lost.
>>563419613What you don't like Level Based MM and getting punted into the rape squads if you just play the game semi-regularly with trios?
>>563419987>>563419613SBMMers need to die. Get better or quit. If you're already matching with streamers you need to form your own team
>>563419613SBMM mixed with bot players would truly be the only thing that could save Marathon. The higher you level up the harder it is to get back up from hard losses.
>>563416707It's the rape genre there's not much else you can do. But something you can do is make the maps much larger. More places to loot, more places to hide from the kill squads, more places to discreetly extract.>>563419151>hurrrr casuals are le scumYou have to accommodate them somehow. The whole reason the playerbase is in freefall without any signs of stopping is because the bottom 10% are getting raped 24/7 and giving up. You think you're safe because you're not a shitter, but the more people leave, the more the average skill level increases. It's a rape conga line and sooner or later you're going to find yourself at the front of it.
>>563420246>the bottom 10% are getting raped 24/7 and giving upDo you think that people just starting the game are facing against level 100 players? That's not how matchmaking works.
>>563420169>Get better or quit.The message has been understood, the raped are fleeing
would you guys play a mode in this game at all with limited loot that let you grab basic items like ammo and consumables that was solely co-operative? i would
>>563420509anon you can just grab every sparkleaf you see and you’ll get healing items for free as you play
Either make the game pvp only or pve only. Don't mix both.
>>563419328>Marathon isn't TarkovIndeed, it's much harder and more unforgiving than Tarkov
>>563420169LBMM is aids and will always be aids because it doesn't account for anything except the funny number. You're just another fag who wants to farm retards and then cry about nobody wanting to play your game anymore. I've seen your kind a hundred hundred times across games. Genuinely subhuman.
>Bungie NEEDS to add a PVE mode!! I keep getting third partied!!That’s the point. Contracts, bosses, they’re all designed to get you running through hotspots and making noise to consistently generate PVP content. Stop doing your contracts and start camping the locations and wiping lobbies and make your own PVE mode.
>>563420938t. has never played Tarkov
>>563420978They have sbmm it's called ranked
do people really think a pve mode would be fun? because the uesc aren't interesting enough to carry a pve mode imo. they're filler enemies that are juuust challenging enough to keep you engaged in between pvp but if fighting them was all you did you'd get bored after an hour
>>563392371what's casual about that?
>>563420978I play on my PS5 for an hour after work every other day. If you can't beat me, I don't think you're worth catering to.
>>563421342The mode that is completely compromised by cheaters?
>>563421375Nothing, if you want to test your skills go to ranked
>>563421525If you think there are cheaters that you will encounter in bronze III, I don't know how to help you
>>563421667anon there's cheaters in unranked perimeter
>>563421147Yes I did, but you haven't played either.Dis you know you can secure loot in Tarkov and can't in Marathon?That in Tarkov you can equalize any gear fight with headshot and ambushes while being outgeared in Marathon turns the game into survival horror?Do you know that being passive is nearly impossible in Marathon and good players have countless ways to rotate (even with shell specific movement abilities).Marathon is far more mechanically complex than Tarkov, regardless of the latter milsim larp
>>563421342Pinnacle players can buy low stakes tokens :)
>>563419187are the real enemy of games the autistics who never stop playing?
>>563422340unironically yes
>>563421754Don't forget that Tarkov squads have friendly fire and no icons showing them where their allies are. A Tarkov squad with shit comms can unironically be at a disadvantage against a decent solo player; in Marathon n+1 is always better and the only counter to snowballing is self-revive spam.
>>563422439>There are still autistics playing unreal tournament 2004 who never stopped.
>>563398383how am i supposed to solo the cryo keys though
>>563421754What a fucking retard
>>563418572and it turns out most people who played elden ring couldn't beat it
>>563422340not really because those games wouldnt have been big anyway. the general public was not clamoring for quake champions or marathon, the general public doesnt want to play hardcore turbosweaty shit even if you add sbmm. these are games designed to appeal to autists and gen xers (who grew up in the era when all video games were designed to appeal to autists) so of course they end up with small autistic playerbases
I dont understand what the point was of Bungie adding Recon when there's UAPs or whatever that can showcase where enemies are on points of interest. She's useless compared to any other class.
>>563422961I accept your concession
My favorite thing about Recon is her scan pulse just giving her position away when Thief can scan fuckers for free with almost no drawback because gamers don't look up.
>>563423494And steal loot and check rarity and counter invis and smoke and they hack turrets on the same ability why not and have a reposition tool that doesn't build heat and fucking works in places that aren't perfectly flat hey why is every team 2x thief and a destroyer thats weird
>>563423308I get the feeling Recon was designed specifically in a bubble of 'counters Assassin but don't counter too hard' early into development and just never got updated. Like her niche is 'pressing an advantage' but her retarded drone and 'come kill me' prime means she has little to no ability to make an advantage happen, and finisher being stupid to do 90% of the time a fight is still ongoing and her complete lack of mobility means stalker is less useful than it would be on half the other shells.>>563423494People are starting to catch on to the sound the drone makes, though it also doesn't reveal where the thief is just by using it
>>563423909>though it also doesn't reveal where the thief is just by using itYeah and if you go see what people are saying online they just go "yeah just ignore the drone and go find the thief and kill her she can't kill you if she's in it" like yeah nigga let me fucking slice the pie and full sweep the map while she's watching me and can swap out if I start getting close to where she's hiding. If I see a thief drone scouting at a POI I'm in in solos I just fuck off from there.
Another day of cheating to ruin the game.Feelsgoodman.
>>563424248Based, keep up the good work
>>563423494The point of the scan is getting real time pings and being instantly aware of other crews when you start making noise, not detecting enemies
>>563424418The pings aren't real time, they're just TAD pulses centered on your player model. If they were actually real time pings that'd theoretically be an okay tradeoff for giving yourself away.
A PvE mode isn't gonna work because the PvE in this game is a joke besides maybe Compiler and even that isn't so hard, just tanky. I think what it actually needs is a mode where you start with a free kit on Perimeter and exfil your way to Cryo. If you wipe you gotta start back at Perimeter.
>>563424618they are buffing necron already (and thats a bad thing)
>>563425378Will the pings be real time?
>>563423494Thief has built-in x-ray and anti-smoke glasses, it's fucking retarded that her visor even scans players. The only benefit to it being toggled on should be the hack when landing hits on players but otherwise it should not be able to see them through smoke or walls.
my favorite thing about thief is running away from my team to loot a purple on perimeter and then saying "jeez the loot here sure sucks..." over mic
I have literally never been outgunned by a Recon that is stupid enough to use their scan in solos but the amount of times I've been droned out and pushed by Thieves is enough to be genuinely annoying. Awareness is the ultimate tool in this game and their kit is way too strong at it.
>server slam and week 1 were fun because nobody knew what to do>S2 reset is going to be sweatier than the current game because everyone will go back to zero and everyone will be rushing upgrades and contracts so the sweats wont be in endless cryo/outpost loop.
>>563424618>The pings aren't real time, Yes they are
>>563415525>Comparing Dark Souls>with MarathonDuskbloods will corpsefuck every bungo employee from marathons grave.On a shitty handgeld console.That costs 500 burgermoneys.With online fee of 20 burgermoneys.Marathon is just shit and unfun.
>>563425365They did something like that in Let it Die Inferno, basically an extraction Soulslike. It worked fine for what it was, problem was that the game was so low budget and it felt like you were in mostly the same environments.
>>563426727Duskbloods is going to be a true sight to behold, probably the first Fromsoft flop in their modern era besides Deracine.>on a console with people who don't care for Fromsoft games>using not-BB imagery so people view it as a knockoff>with a mode that even Nightreign players don't care for>putting high focus on an aspect of Souls games that everyone views as a janky minigame for griefing lulz but never to be taken too seriously
>>563421346Its not about the fun, its about getting your shit done without some giganigga shooting you on spawn.If it was about the fun, Bungo would have made an actually fun game instead of this skinnerbox.I expected more PvE and Coop, i dont want to become an MMO Mob or NPC for a better player to farm.I feel like a uberjeets whenever i die with purple salvage in my freekit backpack.I just want to do all priority contracts and delete the game from my drive.
>>563427413I dont play to buy a snitch for it, but i will bet you it will still sell more than marathon.I only bought marathon cause i wanted to check out PvPvE, and its the most dogshit genre in existence.But, if anyone can pull it off, it will be GODzaki.I hope he sits in his dungeon, witnesses this pile of shit burning and grinns his ass of while taking notes.
I got a message in-game to do a survey. They're getting desperate as fuck. Bungie NEVER gives a shit about what players think, EVER.
>>563427413You overestimate FROMsloppers. They'll buy it in droves, they'll buy a Switch to play it even if they never touch another game on the console (they did this with Playstations for Bloodborne), and they'll sing its praises to high heaven because FROMslop is their religion and Miyazaki is their god.
>>563428773Those are kinda just sent out randomly, I think I got a mail for one of those 3 weeks ago.
>>563427801Stop moving like a npc then Grenades, shorties, and snipers are cheap
>>563427801NoI will just wait for PvE mode or my refund.I will get one of those eventually.
I have booted the game up 3 times this morning and end up closing it after fiddling with my vault for a few minutes. I'm genuinely paralyzed at the thought of going into fill trios to be the only kitted player, or doing solos and getting rat camped by assassins. I'm level 77. I have 160 hours on this game. It was so much fun for a while.What the fuck did they do to fuck this up so badly.
>>563411263So basically no one gambles with enduring here?
>>563430020Sounds like you just have gear fear. Let it go, your vault fills back up before you know it.
>>563430101I just don't keep track of it at all. I know I exceeded whatever the requirement for that one codex challenge was on a backpack and haven't thought about it since. Surviving runs doesn't really mean too much since if I want to do that I'll just be a passive rat in solo and take a safe late exfil with a smoke.
i fucking suck at pvp but there isnt enough pvp and isnt consistent enough to git good, wat do?
>>563428601See>>563421074You’re making yourself the content when you commit to PVE.
>>563430269>I'll just be a passive rat in solo and take a safe late exfil with a smoke.I loaded up on all my enduring once to do this and it didn't go so well. Also I hate waiting until the late part of the map holding an already stuffed bag.
>>563430126It doesn't though. My vault is full through barters not because I'm killing people in PvP. How the hell are you supposed to get better at PvP in this game when you're at my level and every game is just getting pasted into the ground by invisible shotguns or premade purple trio stacks?
>>563430404The answer to this in games like Hunt Showdown is just play more, queue more. You get better because the game lets you. Marathon, however, you will die and keep dying over and over, learning nothing, and wasting your entire vault. It's incredible they never even thought of that considering it's the prime driver behind why people quit extraction games. Can't get good if you're just getting railed every single game, every single encounter. In fact they made it worse with LBMM; lmao doing your contracts actually means you put yourself in tougher PvP lobbies lmao lmao lmao youll never get better ahahahaha
>>563415525Dark Souls is mostly a PvE game and people that keep losing in that are mostly encountering a skill issue because the game is learnable and designed to be beaten and will never change. Marathon on the other hand is the worst aspects of any PvP shooter with abilities and poor weapon balancing its basically just D2 crucible but even more giga aids. Since its also live service good luck learning a gun or character because within 3-6 months or less they could be completely gimped. That is not even mentioning other issues with Marathon's PvP besides balancing like the self cannibalization of the playerbase with sweats and streamers running around murdering everyone until they quit out of frustration. There is also external factors like cheaters that you have to worry about as well. If you compare Marathon's PvE to any other FPS shooter's PvE its laughably easy and is obvously just filler to make up for all the dead space between PvP fights. Vast majority gamers have never really engaged with PvP games that have stakes beyond just losing a match for decades. Writing people off that are dropping a game as "weak willed" is just cope to distract from poor design.
>>563430020You can just chill for a couple days
>>563430020Just use the 2.5k sponsor kits, no ones gonna bat an eye at green shields outside of cryo, sekgen starts you with a volley rifle too.Completely anecdotal but I feel like green shields still get pulled from the same pool of free kitters the game seems to enjoy paring with actually geared players
>>563415525>all that rambling just to say "git gud"You are a subhuman retard.
>>563430431We will see.I have trust in micheal zaki.Cant say the same for bungo retards.>Duskbloods will launch with PvE mode pic rel
hit a free kit run on perimeter and lucked into a massively geared squad that we ganked and took outquadrupled my vault value and snatched a ton of useful salvage for upgrades, what a wand i finished that arachne contract and the level up awarded me a wstr instead of a lmg
>>563430701this is an interesting post. why do you think you can't get better at mara pvp? i have, observably, over my time playing it. but i have practice in csgo and valorant and quake live.
>>563433616It's not really possible to get better when half the games, you get immediately beamed down upon making contact with the enemy, and the other, you maybe get 2-3 engagements that are so far apart you never get really warmed up. Feels like there isn't enough gunplay to GET better.
>>563433616Not him but I barely get to actually play. I just die too fast and the vault melts too quickly.Also, that assumes you are only playing for pvp. If you play for contracts / pve, there's not much you can learn if shitters shoot you in the back or camp your poi or camp your exfil.
>>563434460>>563434634i've died to ppl who remind me of what you're saying a few times but the game seems to have then moved me out of their lobbies
They really need to nerf UESC troops when solo-queueing.Either less of them or not as hard hitting.Yeah call me a shitter if you will. It's still true.
>>563434735(same anon self replying) you might need to do stuff like mess with your mouse sensitivity or play kovaaks
>>563434825they already did once
>had some good solo fill runs on Cryo>even managed to clear a couple vaults>vault full and no more Cryo till Thursday The other maps just don't hit the same...
THIS is why Marathon's player count is so low.
I don't think people realize how fucked Bungie was even before Marathon released. They are absolutely getting butchered after Marathon was yet another flopThey NEEDED a hitI genuinely think it's possible Bungie doesn't survive the next year or two
>>563436168I'll get as much as I can out of Marathon.If it gets shut down, shame.If not, I'll just keep playing.Bungie's existence is in no way tied to my mental of physical well-being. They're just making games. In short: We can't influence it, so why give a fuck?
>>563435826>mandatory Colony Ship For Sale Cheap minigame to get to one of the raid bossesIf only Bungie were so based
Am I just retarded or can we really only ever run one contract at once?
>>563437616One at a time
>>563428773I got a survey like week 3.
>>563428773>>563437820I got one two weeks ago.But there weren't that many questions, and they didn't go very deep.
>>563428773i clicked on mine and there was an error. couldn't even do it
>Rook, hiding near exfil>Another rook draws enemy attention, comes to me>We both get killedFucking Rookers
>>563406962You forgot>It doesn't have to beat Payday 2
I do not think the game is very fun if you are alone. It's a frustrating grind and any throwback is worse than any gain.
>>563428773i got destiny 2 surveys in my emails sometimesthe game sucked regardless of my excellent advice but they gave me silver so it evened out
WOW I FUCKING LOVE SHOTGUNS BEING UNCONTESTABLE HAHA YESSS IF I GO WITHIN 10M OF SOMEONE I JUST GET TO DIE NOTHING I CAN DO HAHA THIS IS SO FUN!!!!!!!!!!!!
Any info on grenade damage values?
>>563444004just buy a 6000 credit wstr every single match chud
Diffizle spent 30 min in ranked queue to lose to cheaters in 5 mins and now has another 30 min queueLmao this game is dead
>>563446834Imagine doing ranked right now, spiritually cucked.
Blasterfags...what happened?
>>563447358My friend is gonna buy Gray Zone on a key site and we're gonna play together soon. Gonna be comfy.
>>563447321nows the only time to do it, its not gonna get better
>>563448384I just won't engage with it at all
>>563444004If I don't have a shotgun, I do not engage in close range.
>Plenty of credits>Plenty of purples, some golds>Just want to play Cryo for the fun Let me in you motherfuckers.
Sitting on a fat stash of vault contentment
>Single handedly kill all 9 players on Outpost>Teammates kept running in and looting every enemy right after I down one, not even helping with the others>They were both free kitters too
>have purple key>make a trio and go into perimeter to do it>'you guys wanna wait or just rush it?'>'rush it, we're all purples'>loud as fuck alarm plays when we open it>i find my first circuit breaker and some volt cells>thisIsASign.jpg>footsteps within 30 seconds>stand by door and precharge it>some purple Destroyer appears>fire it and he just melts into the fucking floor>holyShit.jpg>we clean up that team and take their key for another purple roomG fucking g. Circuit Breaker is neat but I doubt I'd ever use it again over WSTR.
>>563450939Circuit Breaker is really bad once you're actually in an engagement. Good for ratting though
The echo-localization in this game seriously fucking sucks.
i would be okay with them making a PVE only map for groups of five after it goes on PS+ or free to play :)
>>563448384nows the only time to do it, its not gonna get betterSeems like a good reason to just not do it at all
Solos are actually unplayable.Everyone is just a crouch-walking thief or assassin.
>>563453123keep thiefchad slander out yo mouth bitch
I'm now 40h in. That was my goal, a dollar for an hour, to see if I'd like this game. It's well made in some parts and bad in others. Just like with Destiny, the worst part about it are its players.I also wish I was good at this game, but I'm not and the ever growing frustration is eroding any good-will I had for this game. It really should just have been a campaign shooter.Bungie will not be the last victim of studios and companies chasing live service games.
>>563376329Give it a casting time. That way at least one person gets downed before it goes on
>Turn corner>WoosteredYeah no fuck this game, I gave it an honest try but it's dogshit. It's a terrible genre, the playerbase is just faggots and the rest is bungie's usual wank.
>>563454118Stop playing solo, chud.
https://x.com/aquativityy/status/2043458855259062593?s=20remove wstr REMOVE WSTR
>>563454825Why so I can get a different kind of Destiny experience and be teamed with braindead faggots again?No, I had more than 10 years worth of bungie fan-faggots
>>563436393You are indian lmao
>play cautiously: not enough time to get around the map 3 times to complete the quest due to campers stalling the game>play recklessly = announce your presence to 100m radius and get killed instantly
>>563435826>mfw
>>563400037>low gear players stop playing cryo because it's basically full risk no reward>low geared players quit cryo>cryo gets even harder
>>563436748>CSFSC but with other squads and rooks constantly spawning
>assassin uses invisibility>run away>assassin uses smoke cloud>run awayit is that easy
>>563440765LOL. The developers literaly told you it was focused on trios. Solos wasn't' even a thing until after the betas. Why the fuck did you waste your money?
>>563458256>CSFSC but other squad keep fucking it up every time you get a platform to where it needs to beStop I can only handle so much kino
>Load in perimeter>two dudes are just non stop complaining about bungo>Hit map and check their contracts>pretty much sherpa them around pois and ping their contract loot>exfil while they do literally nothing but follow me around and keep an eye out for enemiesmaybe if these dads actually played the game they would improve.
>>563436393>In short: We can't influence it, so why give a fuck?Sure we can. We can't guarantee an outcome. But we can absolutely influence it. Unfortunatlye, I think they're hell bent on a path that won't work. I think maybe we should focus more on strategies for when it goes free to play.
>>563458256>>563458584If they had any balls, they would have recreated marathon scenarios, where the sweats are the role of the Security officer, and the rooks and solos and shitters are a bunch of BOBs.
>>563458380>Be recon, throw out drone and activate prime>Be Thief, activate tactical and see assasissies in smoke>>563447358don't ask them, they're having a blast. you need to hunt down the non blast havers. because they're the ones who left.
>>563458831I think they successfully exfiled already.
>Tarkov in Space just revealedWhat’s going on here, this is way too much of a coincidence
>>563458614They probably came from /dg/
>>563459407First marathon-like
>>563459474the game isn't honestly that hard. when i first started, i would bunny hop all over the map and make so much noise. if i got a kill, it was luck that i got the drop on someone but for the most part i would make noise and people would get the drop on me. I am not a hardcore pvper but honestly slowing down and listening for foot steps or ADS watching a poi for a couple of seconds makes a big difference. i had one raid where i just sat and watched. got a kill on a vandal and just chilled for another 30 seconds. sure enough i hear another assassin underneath of where i was standing and got a second kill.
>>563460335Nice
Rook runs are fun
>Space Tarkov is made by the Tarkov guyMarathon is so fucked
>>563460335This is the thing with BRs and extraction: they’re survival games. They’re not these arena shooters where you push teams and take on the whole map andIf you down a team in Pinwheel and get good stuff, you should probably get out immediately.
>>563459407https://youtu.be/WZgi_1C48Ik?t=19>secure the Perimeterhaha
>>563460914>you should probably get out immediately.so many times where i'm internally screaming to rotate but i say nothing and my team always gets dropped on. also when i'm in cryo and we're in a tug of war with another team in a corridor and i'm just thinking, fuck it, let's back out back out back out. and then we push and die lol.
>>563461029This cinematic is really good.
>>563460914>If you down a team in Pinwheel and get good stuff, you should probably get out immediatelyLmfao this is such a cucked take. If you've down one team and own pinwheel odds are you can ambush any other team
>>563460335The secret technique is to shoot in the air to attract enemies and then stand still and let them run into you. Honestly it's kinda stupid. There's hardly any counters to standing still, whereas you will hear enemy walk up to you extremely clearly.
>>563461029What the fuck kind of ESL slop name is Fragmentary Order?
Why are all of the Triage cores so ass?
>>563461610Sounds like an anime name
>>563460805The variance is just crazy. There are so many things that can happen in a rook run on outpost that you become addicted to all the possible outcomes. >Wing is open, rook already been through?>guarded exfil aftermath, two trios and two rooks dead>me and five rooks get into pinwheel together >me and another guy get all the keys and open up the locker rooms>Theif drones me at exfil and griefs me>rook in corner shotguns me>call a supply drop and get a gold magazine>other supply drop, me and another rook talk it out>me vs a commander at exfil, drops a purple key>container hacks as rook>those runs through pinwheel where its dead quiet and you have the whole thing to yourselfThe variance for loot and experiences is addictive. Those were all runs I did last night with rook on Outpost.
>>563461610It's a better name than Marathon
>>563461571i once filled in with a trio of zoomers that did this. their strategy was to hide under the command wing where you can climb up those large yellow tubes. you sit at the top and you can clip through the beams and nobody can see you from below. they would get on proxy and swear at each other and fire shots and teams would come and they would just shoot them from above.
How the fuck am I getting sniped here?Lost purple shield to this bs
>>563462037(me)i mean duo of zoomers
>>563462142People are cheating anon.
>>563419083marathon is not space tarkov, marathon plays like a video game designed to be played and enjoyed by humanstarkov and by extension space tarkov are designed to play like shit for russians and other slavgroids
>>563462234>marathon is not space tarkov, marathon plays like a video game designed to be played and enjoyed by humansPoorly designed, apparently, since the humans are neither playing nor enjoying it
>>563462142the guy east of maintenance was faster than you and got the high ground while you probably crouch walked through the back? a lot of guides in solo say to just turn left or right and sprint to fight the first person you see.
>>563462142You can spawn inside Maintenance, pretty much on the ground floor of where that sniper is.
Wait did Jennifer English even have any lines this season? I thought she was supposed to be in it.
me and my shitstack killed a squad of purples on dire marsh and they had 3 keys on them damn we're eating good.
>>563462290map design and balance aside the actual moment to moment gameplay is much better than anything this trash heap of a genre has ever seen
>You are RepEnt, a remotely controlled clone assetCome on this is literally a shell what’s going on here which studio got the jump on which one first
>>563462614reddit says Joy the AI plushie.
The old Marathon games are good and I see why contrarians would be unironically shilling them now and saying to play them instead of the new Marathon. But I don't for a second believe any of these people actually played them when they first came out, because they were Mac exclusive, and who the fuck had a Mac? These are people who discovered a cool retro game years later and for some reason decided to pretend they grew up with it and Bungie is disgracing their childhood memories or something, maybe they think it gives them more credibility but this game is one time where it just makes you look full of shit.
>Fragmentory Order has an Infinite Warfare/Delta Force hubIt’s over man. Bungie are not fast enough with updates and improvements.
>>563462857OG Marathon sold enough to get 2 sequels (and Halo was originally gonna be a third before they pivoted to an original IP)
>>563463021>sales mattering on PC in 1994You would just pump another game out in 7 months. I think Doom 1 took 9 months to originally make.
>>563461029>gameplay trailer>no gameplay
>>563463021I wonder what made them pivot. Halo isn't all that different, the aliens are just religious instead of slavers.
>>563463021>and Halo was originally gonna be a third before they pivoted to an original IPSo we've gone fill circle from Destiny.
>>563462857I grew up with a Mac.There were a good number of great Mac exclusives.Marathon wasn't one of them though, the games are decidedly mid now that I'm playing them as an adult.
>>563464296the level design is kinda shit. otherwise they are good
>>563463792A dev might've said exactly why at some point but I'd imagine all of Marathon's immense baggage played a roleThat game is hard sci-fi through and through, with deep, convoluted lore, and a gritty tone, and someone probably decided it wasn't what they were looking for in regards to the console marketI could be bullshitting though idk
>>563435826
who should my next shell be? I've played Recon and thief. Is triage v11 punch shenanigans viable?
>>563367318On one hand, we actually get changes instead of "we're looking into it" like Destiny. On the other hand...it's still Bungie and they will for sure only half-ass or ignore the real issues.
>>563460914You aren't balls deep in cryo yet.
>>563464416The music is so bad they dropped it entirely after the first one, the reload system is weird, the guns are mostly unremarkable, the sound design is actually awful, the plot is complete nonsense to the point that each game retcons the prior's ending, enemy variety is poor and contains no real bosses, and Durandal is SHODAN if she was trained entirely on Reddit. But yeah, it has its moments. The dual shotguns are really good if incredibly slim on ammo, and the dash punch mechanic is so good I find myself wishing it was in Doom.
>>563367318Imma be honest, this genre will always make people upset. There’s no point in rationalising player counts and economies and balancing in extraction because “FUCK… I just lost my shit FUCK THIS GAME” is a typical reaction. People can’t and won’t stay objective in that mindset. They’re not going to sit back and analyse things, they’re going to jump on the developers like they do the government and scream “FIX THIS RIGHT NOW”That’s why, you get out of the extraction loop coyly and put in more Destiny 2 elements.
>>563466916It’s still not team death match in Cryo. It feels like it because of the engagement rate, but you’re still routing around teams to find clearance. None of the Marathon is built for engagements either. Vents, hallways, stairwells, none of that is built for fair FPS play.
They need to at least add a practice range and replays of your runs if they want to insist on this being the competitive pvp extraction shooter
Sucks that the music in this game is actually good but I can't have it on because otherwise I CAN'T HEAR OTHER PLAYERS PROPERLY
>>563466934>The music is so bad they dropped it entirely after the first oneStopped reading right there
>>563467493What music? There are beeps on Outpost and sometimes Cryo goes “bum bum ba bum” and that’s it. >that sick beat when heat cascade endsTURN UP THIS SH FIR
>>563467467so many times i'd love to see a stat screen other than the useless "Name did total damage to you" stat. like yeah, i know how much health i have, that's so redundant. i wanna know what gun killed me, where they shot me, where i shot him. i can't believe bungie still can't implement that kind of stuff but other shooters can do it.
>someone kills me>look at his name, it’s like some ASCII symbol he hacking>figure out years later that the symbol is a claymore
>>563467263>but you’re still routing around teams to find clearance.At my level, there's guaranteed at least one team that is going to try to push teams and take the whole map and has the gear that they might actually pull it off. It's the attitude going in for a lot of teams, including mine.
>>563447358GUYSwe have to stay logged in even when we're not playing, what the FUCK are you guys doing800 employees families at Bungie are depending on us
>>563467552Concession accepted
0/8 b8
>>563466934>the guns are mostly unremarkablenah man the guns are cool. the fire rate and weird ass shape of that assault rifle appeals to me for some reason. and the shotguns have that terminator swag ykno
man im getting annoyed3 games with randoms and it goes goodi ask you wanna team up?send requestsnothingreeeee
>>563471775>send requestscringe
>>563469825The AR has the most asstastic spread I have ever seen but the weirdly generous underslung grenades are great. It seems like you can reload the grenades asynchronously from the bullets? Strange thing, but I imagine setting up a system like that was uncharted territory at the time.
It’ll be very interesting to see Fragmentary order alongside Marathons development. Then again this genre sucks I don’t care.
>>563471775desperate
>>563472091Fragmentary Order is going to destroy Marathon if Sony doesn't do it before it's release.
>>563472208i am
>>563472318learn to carry. be the one people send requests to.
>>563469038I'm gonna hit you with a concession missile see how you accept that
>>563471923>>563472208I remember when it was normal to make friends in games with randoms.
>>56347264018/f/cali u?
fuck assassin
>>563472672dead on arrival
>>563472896>thinking tarkov fans rebought the game on steam at full price for literally no reason I know you're a marathon enjoyer but surely you're not actually THAT retarded right anon?
>>563472896If it launches on Steam, it's going to beat Arc Raiders.
>>563472672>that visibility from the colour tone in the mapHave fun getting sniper from a corner on top of who knows where.
>>563473749It's probably not going to have invisible snipers like Marathon does
>>563472578I hope they have milk duds
I still don't get how my grey sniper rifle was able take down a blue shield assassin with a body shot and a headshot, even without upgrades some weapons like the MIPS ammo guns just feel far stronger than blue volt guns.
>>563473749but bro it's gritty and realistic
If even Gray Zone Warfare can beat Marathon, Fragmentary Order will rape it.
>>563473796Go play Battlefeel VI to see how a BR with grit and high realism graphics goes.
>>563444004>WOW I FUCKING LOVE SHOTGUNS BEING UNCONTESTABLE HAHA YESSS
>>563474993how it genuinely feels to play cryo
>>563474241Every weapon is gray rarity, and mod's don't alter firepower. This is pretty dishonest, since some weapons are clearly rarer than others (50c V11 Punch vs 15,000c Circuit Breaker).
I swear this game, and others, use artificial connection issues. If you’re in a tight spot or moment, it’ll just cut you back artificially as part of some EOMM algorithm.
>engage fight>bubble shield>bubble shield>self rez>bubble shield>self rez>didn't bring WSTR so can't challenge it>just leave>exfil >new match>start engagement>bubble shield>bubble shield>self rez>leave and exfilThis shit needs to not exist in trios.
>>563477272is there an upgrade that lets you get bubble shields guaranteed? because otherwise i think you're just in dios queue where you deserve to be punished with godly itemsets since you have them yourself
>>563477474You find like 5 minimum in pinwheel each time, and you can find schemes for them as well. I also don't bring bubble because I am, or was, saving them for Cryo but now Im just waiting to see if they make it any better. For reference, Im not the one spamming bubble, but it really does feel that every encounter with people blue shields and up have at least two bubbles ready to go.
might just chill 'til the updoot on wednesday
i had some of the best rounds ive ever had tonight brosits starting to clicki exfiled like 5 times out of 7
>>563478503any ideas what the updoot is going to have?
>girl characters are the weakestevery time.how could bungie get away with this misogyny?
>>563462142Do you know what shell they were playing? If they were a thief and had the sekiguchi upgrade that lets you start with your tactical at the start of a run they could have just sprinted over to maintenance (or spawned in the lower area) and grappelled up. If they did spawn there it's feasible they could have just walked up to the upper room first, heard you walking past the backside and then peeked out to kill you.>>563462341>a lot of guides in solo say to just turn left or right and sprint to fight the first person you see.I'm writing my own guide at the moment for solos and while I think it's important to kill your "spawn buddy" as I refer to them, sprinting to find them is one of the worst things you can do, especially on a map like Dire Marsh since you can sometimes have two Spawn Buddies (Ai Uplink, Complex and Bio Research are especially bad with this). How you behave in the first minute really just depends on your spawn, for example in Dire Marsh if you spawn at the blue circle, your first instinct would be to go to AI, but there's two enemy spawns (green) nearby that can catch you out even if you try to stealth, so you're better off breaking off to the DCON house nearby and waiting to ambush. For Bio research your plan changes; if you spawn purple you wanna swing in to initiate a spawn buddy kill since the other spawn buddy that can be there is at a signifigant disadvantage if they stay since the UESC usually spawn near them over you + they have less cover. If you spawn red, you basically just have to bail to complex unless you're playing a shell like Thief or Vandal that can contest the area using the roofs and catwalks. Once you get your first player kill you can usually ease up on a POI, but for something like Dire Marsh you can only really relax after 2 kills usually unless you're at the east end.
>>563479242new experimental queue, buff for recon/vandal...umm some change for being downed in solo and trios, i guess some other stuff
>>563479286You're either the destroyer (raper) or you get destroyed (raped)
>>563479242oh and there's some new skins
>>563480229Oh joy new recolors
I think the UX designer should be shot
>>563480983sorry grumpy gus
>>563481352what happen anon
Okay Bungie, listen up:- Stop the solo camping. The best course of action when you hear somebody is to stop moving and it's stupid and the kills don't even feel earned. Probably solveable with some idle noises for characters.- Slower ttk at least in solo. The game only gets good at blue shields, but most people won't see a blue shield in 50+ hours. You die instantly and the weapon feels irrelevant.- Reduce bullet magnetism (could be the main method of lowering ttk). Medium-close range fights feel like pure stat check, needs some skill in the game, especially against a low level player without those agility upgrades, the level of agency and skill feels almost nonexistent. Smaller hitbox brings more variability to the outcomes which is fair for the poorfags.- Vault space feels TERRIBLE. I don't have gear fear, I have vault management fear. STOP THROWING 5 DAILY WEAPONS AT ME, I'M LITERALLY SUFFOCATING. I have a massive backlog of items from faction rank ups. Also feels like too many items come from random rewards instead of exfiling them as loot, it doesn't feel earned. To make things more viable to exfil, inventory needs to be bigger- You know the data, solo is popular, make it viable. Keep it hard and survival, but the special big enemy waves and purple bosses are too hard and suck out all your heals and bullets. Make Cryo Archive soloable one day. Eventually solo ranked.- Speaking of ranked, the current experiment is shit. The equipment value and borrowed items system is shit and very confusing. The scoring forces you to replace your build with enemy equipment to gain points. And what's up with the value goal threshold, why is it binary? It's overcomplicated and weird. Make ranked based purely on exfil'd salvage and value. The tag system is ok. Or just make kills worth points at the end. Make it based on paid kit which is same for everyone, or a choice from multiple paid kits. Being able to bring Biotoxic Injector against poorfag build isn't real ranked.
>>563481484
>>563479334Interesting breakdown. How would you path if you had to do one of the co-evolution contracts like 4 and you spawn maintenance
>>563481638What was that post?
>>563481484>- Vault space feels TERRIBLE. I don't have gear fear, I have vault management fear. STOP THROWING 5 DAILY WEAPONS AT ME, I'M LITERALLY SUFFOCATING. I have a massive backlog of items from faction rank ups. Also feels like too many items come from random rewards instead of exfiling them as loot, it doesn't feel earned. To make things more viable to exfil, inventory needs to be biggerThe armory refresh feels like claiming dailies in a phone game, with the random barter refresh as a scummy little cherry on top. Login every day pig, you don't want to miss a good deal!
>>563481484Given bungie's trajectory, you're just bitching in the wind to them.
>>563479286But surely being dominated tickles your AGP, right sis?
>>563481754Calling the redditors miserable for complaining about the game
>>563474776kek this
If this game dies at least I got my fill of being raped and chuds cant take that from me
>>563482368That's what it's all about
>>563481352Agreed
>>563482368
>>563481681Changes based on which spawn you get, and it can also get altered to be safer based on if you can quickly find a chitin sample or what shell you're playing. Personally I'd just rinse the run and focus on surviving and exfil'ing asap and refresh but if you had to do it>RedProbably the "better" spawn, but still a difficult route. You'll skip fighting maintenace and potentially contest someone coming from Quarantine so you can swing by and kill ticks that can spawn in 2 locations there. If you can't find some there, you should be able to find a tick nest near the bottom of algae ponds. Cut through the bottom of algae ponds and go through the anomaly area while crouch walking to get to bio research>GreenCheck to see if there's nests in the dock bays then take the same path as Red. It'll be earlier in the match so your crouch walk will be much safer than red route's since there's a high chance everyone will just be lurking around their POI's and looting.>BlueYou can't really break out since you run the risk of getting gunned down from both sides. You can only really "leave safely" once you've killed someone either from green or red side. Once you have then you can leave. You'll likely have to wait a bit, so crouch walking through the middle area would be dangerous since most people will start rotating at this point, so I'd take the AI Uplink Tunnels since people very often forget that exists.Regardless once you get to Bio, you have to take the death gauntlet transition; it's unironically the safest and quickest route at this point, since if you try to go the long way (bio-complex-ai-maintenance-quarantine) halfway into a run you have a higher risk of bumping into people rotating then just cutting through. Crouch walk up to intersection and then just run like hell until you get to Quarantine. At that point which POI's you run to depends on what exfils are open.
>>563481484Also, the current recolors skins are boring and not special. At least add more colors or more segments or colored edges in a way that default skins don't have, something like this (prompted edit from grok, but you get the idea). Maybe you are just holding back better skins for a an groundbreaking update, but if you aren't, you need to do something. It doesn't even have to be groundbreaking, but it has to be distinguishable from base skins.Also, skins should probably stay applied to each weapon from when first picked up or bought, so it feels like you are leaving a semi-permanent mark to the game world in a recognizable way even if you lose the weapon. You could also give an option to apply your skin to any weapon you have picked up.
>>563483263Or you could just run through Algae and Greenhouse because everyone feels like they are contested so it ends up being actually safe.
>>563483729*incorrect buzzer sound*The point of the extra length routes is that you're hitting potential tick nest spawns on the way as well as staying safe and quiet. Even if you got an early tick nest though, I'd never run through algae ponds and greenhouse in the first 5 mins, cause the spawns are horrendously against you. Orange is where players can spawn if you were gonna do that and that would likely hear you; you 100% run the risk of engaging a fight with someone who knows where you are but you don't know where they are, which is a death sentence in solos. This isn't even accounting for the heavy UESC presence you'd alert while doing this, which will be louder than your footsteps, and has a chance to drain your resources which you'll actually need to run the POI's later for the contract. Even if you're playing assassin you're still gonna be making shit loads of noise anyway cause of the invis sound.You can run that route after 10 minutes, but doing it before then is asking to get shot in the back of the head or rat ambushed.
>[indistinct noise] >[BSTR]: I'm sorry. >[BSTR]: I'm sorry for all I've done to get you here. Someday—if you reach the other side of this—you will see the necessity in your growing pains. You will understand the methods required to get you from there to here to wherever you end up—whoever you become. >[BSTR]: I wish I could be there to see it. To meet you as your truest self—as a father embracing his son. Reminder to be nice about your chud AI son's DeviantArt hobby.
>>563485021NTA but there's a few ways to skin a cat here, and one of them is just embracing failure, usually as Thief with free kits (or for later contracts Punch + whatever consumable you need). I'll often go directly into Maintenance or Algae Ponds if they're on the route as they have weapons lockers, ideally I can quietly procure a semi-functional loadout and then roughly follow the Algae Ponds side of Anomaly path that you had in green/red, though I'll stick closer to Algae Ponds until I reach the highway, as that allows you to hear nearby activity and change course as needed, included taking the tunnels into Greenhouse if you need to lay low for a while since fuckin nobody ever goes into the southern tunnel set. The trick with a bad spawn like Maintenance is to just play super high risk early since death doesn't matter, and then tone it down when you actually get the bio-chain.Agreed about the necessity of the death gauntlet being necessary for Bio-Quarantine though, I feel like that's the worst part of the map and why there's so much suffering is lack of viable east-west traversal options.
>scrounge up my strongest loadout (green shield + M77 i happen to find) for Dire Marsh (need that fucking bio gell)>get matched with two Destroyers with purple shields >they just casually destroy the whole lobby on their own>meanwhile im just trying to keep up and tossing heals when off cooldown, scrounging up the leftovers from them doing the lockdown events>not a single biogel was looted
the greatest gape yet occurs tonight
>>5634876975k then back up to 20k woop de woop
>>563488220had bungle only pandered to cooperativegods, this could all have been avoidedbut i doubt even undertaking the pivot now would save themi doubt that it is even in their power to do so
>>563488487it's ride or die now they can't bend the knee to heckin chungus bois
>>563481484>The game only gets good at blue shields, but most people won't see a blue shield in 50+ hoursThis is a big issue I have where there's no amount of grinding you can do to make up for not participating in the 3v3 sweatlord thunderdome as much as humanly possible.When cryo is closed or I'm playing fills on marsh/perimeter I should feel as if I have a chance at getting at least something good when I roll the dice on normal world loot. But instead they've balanced it in a way that it feels totally useless to engage with anything except the top 5% of locations in every single run
>>563461632the 2 purple ones for more healing are great but yeah all the others may as well not exist. gold is okay but too rare for what it does
show me your codex progress
Didn't see a bubble shield all day, gave mercy to a freekit saying he just wanted to do his quest and he did NOT stab me in the back, and I became VIP with NuCal, today was much better than last night.
Woah is this like part of the arg
>>563489659I don't like to skip reading but also I don't have the patience to read all this shit.
>Wanna do quests that involve non-PvP>Five minutes of waiting time>For thirty seconds of gameplay >Any progess is useless anyway because of seasonal wipesThis game is atrocious
>>563490449Also because of these quests there is never any reason to not just run free kits.Who the fuck would bring their best gear when your quest is>Go to [place]>Loot a crate
>>563489851Oops I lied after saying this I keep running into three stacks of Destroyer. If this nigger is not nerfed hard this week I hope Zeigler gets raped to death
With how dogshit this genre is I can't believe that at some point people wanted PvP included in Destiny's patrols.
dilation status?escalating.
>>563472672It's going to flop too if it's an extraction pvpve shooter.
Personally I had a blast #MarathonTakeover #MarathonPartner #Ad
>>563436168Considering the studio is just another skinwalking corpse of a beloved name filled mostly with new blood, millennial developers who didn't have the talent or passion the old heads had, this isn't even a bad thing. Consider it an official burial for what was already a corpse infested with maggots for a long time now.
just how gapedcan this game be raped?
6,925 players online? That's 6,925 too many.
It's not enough that this game dies.All the content creators that shilled it should piss off too. Especially their fans.
>>563476871>your_meds_schizo.jpgMore likely just their netcode throttling when there's more shit happening
funny how people with triple digit amount of hours played feel compelled to voice their opinion about how marathon could onboard / retain more playerstheir opinion on this matter is intrinsically worthless because they already love the game as it is
>>563493478Fellas...
how long till the midseason update? do we know any changes yet?
any other professional exfil rats?my best earners are rook on outpost and dire marsh solo queue
>For more than ten years the biggest source of gripe and shit balance in Destiny was the PvP, it even seeped into PvE>So they make a PvPvE shooter and blend them even furtherThey have completely blurred the lines between boldness and retardation.
Frames should be weaker, guns should stay strong. It's fucking absurd to tell me that Security Officer was moving down Compilers like flies meanwhile he had 1/10th the mobility and utility of Destroyer. It's just bullshit, fuck Destroyer, fuck Thief, rest are fairly balanced.
>>563493904People complained that Destiny pvp was ability spam and absurd guns locked behind nigger-infested AIDS cum known as Ranked. They fixed this, then introduced more broken abilities. They fixed it, added more broken abilities, etc.
>>563493874Cryo archive solo fill into ratting when the fills get exploded
Erm the playerbase has fallen
Arc poisoned the well
>>563489071>if I have a chance at getting at least something good when I roll the dice on normal world lootThe endgame is getting materials for upgrades and some of those are unique from marsh/perimeter.You need guns? Traxus and arachne sell everything you need.Shields? Get that blue shield nucal updgrade done.
>>563494405I fucking hate levelling ArachneThis game's PvP doesn't suit right with meAll I can find is shotgun assassins
>>563476030>mod's don't alter firepowerMost of them don't, but there's a purple chip that makes your gun deal more damage when your shields are down
>>563494632>This game's PvP doesn't suit right with meinterestingwhy are you playing at all? (genuine question)
>>563494970What even is the purpose of that question?The game seemed interesting and I gave it an earnest attempt. I played to get some of my money's worth and in hopes that getting better or playing a sufficient amount would solidify my opinion on it. Which it did.
Boy I sure do hope the CARRI event is like something epic like maybe it should be an event that spawns a big blue light everyone can see across the map while you do it. Or maybe do a loud jingle to notify everyone in the lobby you're doing it. Or like a big alert in the middle of everyone's screen that stays there for 10 seconds alerting people you're doing it. Maybe an icon on the map showing people you've engaged it. I think that'd be cool.
>>563499463CryoArchiveRookRampancyInitiative
Where the goop is the hype?
Goop Bungie
Balance updates that NEED to happen >Thief visor no longer detects alive players, can still hack them>Destroyer movement nerf>Grenades and bubble shield do not stack (does not apply to ammo crates)>Grenades and bubble shield are 2x2 inventory space (does not apply yo ammo crates)>bubble removed in S2>Bully nerf>Hardline buff>Thermals removed from snipers as an option>buff to loot in perimeter and marsh >increase UESC damage
Just make solo playable.Let trios rape each other all they want while I do my contracts and collect codex entries and shoot robots in peace.
>>563500606How is solo not playable?
they playercount is really low todaywtf
>>563500701How many times do people need to repeat what's wrong with solo...
>>563500606>>563500927Imagine buying a team-based game and whining when it sucks being solo
>>563501109maybe they shouldnt have added solosand nerfect the PvE enemies so they are killable in soloor add proximity chat
>>563500919Game is dead outside of NA.
>>563501190>nerfectnerfed*
>>563501109Nowhere it says it's only team based.Tarkov is mostly played solo for example.
>>563500460>Assassin not adressedlmao get the fuck out
>>563500919The game is a frustrating grind, as are all extraction shooters. This genre has absolutely no mass appeal and it's mind-boggling that bungie managed to talk sony into funding this as the next big thing.
>>563499627CryoArchiveRogueRunnerInitiative(A.k.a solo cryo)>>563500606Just admit you’re bad and don’t know how to ‘play’ solos. Literally what can they change that would make solos better that isnt fundamentally changing how the game works?You can do all of those things you want to do, you just need to play a little smarter.>>563500919>tfw so low I hopped over to the Japanese server and still need to wait shitloads of time for queue to popCrazy honestly. The queue was bumping yesterday, even on solo dire marsh of all things I was only having to wait like 5 seconds to get into a game for 6+ hours.>>563501109It’s fair to complain about solo since not everyone has friends they can play with consistently and also fill queue is really just asking to lose, but it’s just the same retarded talking points that shows people haven’t actually bothered to try and adapt. They just run around, get unsurprisingly shot to death and act like the game is fucked when if you did this in any other extraction shooter you’d get killed just as fast>>563501352>acting like assassin is somehow more problematic than destroyer with the current shotgun meta or thief with her overloaded as fuck kit
>>563501523>Pretending the invis class is not idiotic in a shotgun meta>Anime picShoulda figured
>>563501523>you just need to play a little smarter.Yeah you just need to camp in a corner for 20 minutes then maybe try doing whatever you want to do and you still have a very high chance of getting deleted out of nowhere or by a camper.There's no smart way of playing solo.
got 3 subroutines done this weekend. just wanna get to this compiler and kill it so me and my friends can finally put this game to rest. Dunno why but I cannot drop this game until I get there, call it rape victim syndrome or something.
>>563501608His invisibility is fucking useless for CQC when you realise he makes the loudest humming/droning sound known to man while invis, which you should immediately pick up on unless you aren't listening to sounds for some reason, which basically just invalidates you from saying anything worthwhile about the game>>563501687There 100% is, you're just choosing to not play in a smart way and getting upset when you can't brute force an exfil.>Thief drone to scout a POI before you go in>Using destroyer barricade to blind check rooms that could have a rat in them>Using vents to sneak into POI's>Bypassing usual ambush spots by parkouring onto roofs as VandalBeing loud can also be a strat too to lure in people to your POI so you can kill them, you just have to not be retarded. Big ask I know.
>>563501352Assassin has nothing if he's not invisible. Maybe longer grace period before returning invisible if he shoots or does something or slightly more noticeable. He's definitely not a problem child like Destroyer.
