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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

#778 - Saint Mary's crown of stars Edition

▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo
▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.

>News
GLM 5.1 https://z.ai/blog/glm-5.1
GPT-5.4 https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-4
Gemini 3.1 Pro https://deepmind.google/models/model-cards/gemini-3-1-pro/
Claude Sonnet 4.6 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-4-6

additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_

>Bots
https://characterhub.org | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://aicg.neocities.org/bots

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
deepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOP | https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
rice: https://aicg.neocities.org/ricing
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org

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ANCHOR
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>>563445170
>girl i just like the aesthetics
That accurately describes every American "Christian"
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>>563445264
kek if only
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god is real and he pounded my prostate
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>Christcuck cringe
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why all the christian themes all of a sudden
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i wvll makie the card but I wvll not postie...
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on my knees for god every day taking the bastings of his babel tower #whoresforgod
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cunny bots?
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>>563444963
Good theme. Gives me an excuse to post this from my RP.
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my tummy hurts
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>>563445646
ur progninte
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speaking of foxes who's making one for the warring states event?
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>>563445632
sanest futafag rp
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>>563446029
foxes are so 2025
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are we still pretending the theme isn't rigged?
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>>563446225
mmm, no, I saw how everyone had been and still is losing their minds over Nazuna and her sisters
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>>563446225
sadly no, it's an ongoing meme
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>>563446060
Did I ever tell you what the definition of insanity is?
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>>563446315
>one guy spamming sd gens is everyone losing their minds
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a long time ago i had this idea for a creepy priest set in not!mont saint-michel. i liked the isolated setting and potential for sad scenes by the water...
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i like christianity and all but christianity in chatbots is very cringe
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>>563446545
>priest
>dressed like a nun
what is this, a nunnery for men?
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>>563446761
perhaps and i wish this doujin wasn't smellfootslop
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>>563446029
Not me, I'm sure there will be a few but kitsune are yokai and there's just a lot that can be done with "sengoku yokai"
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>>563446725
nuns are best enjoyed in text form
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>>563446545
I remember having a bot that kinda looks like this. He was a male priest that had convinced himself he had to birth a great hero that would save the lands from chaos and he choose you to inseminate his ass. He looked like this but he had purple eyes
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why aren't platypus girls popular
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>>563447375
>freckles
hnnnnnngh...
>>563447412
please tell me you still have the bot so you can catbox him
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>>563447375
>Freckles
Going to baptize this lady, if you know what I mean WITH MY COCK *PLAP PLAP PLAP* SEEEEEEEX
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>>563447412
did you ever publish him
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who wants to get raped by Opussy tonight?
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>>563447537
>>563447687
No but it was 200 token slop from 2023, you could make a better bot with that idea
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>hypno app phone intro
oughhh
grug.

do you generally keep extended media on or off, so that people can embed images into their intros and mechanics?
i kinda wanna look into how sprites and reaction/emotion embedding works to get lil popups of people's faces or whatever
if that's even a thing
>working on villain groups, realizing it might be neat to have visual popups when notable heroes/villains show up
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how do i become a cute femboy irl?
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>>563448040
if you don't post a catbox album with gens on release i'm going to rape you
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>>563446545
>i had this idea for a creepy priest set in not!mont saint-michel.
Was there something that stopped you from making it?
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>>563448297
it's already way too late for you
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>>563448297
just kill yourself
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>>563448662
i'm 20
>>563448726
nyo
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>>563448376
>a catbox album
is that actually a thing or am i gonna have to one-at-a-time them? i hate the latter method
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>>563448816
>is that actually a thing
yeah
you'll have to make an account though
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frankly more botmakies should try making a femboy or three. especially ones who have never made one before
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femboys are peak
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>>563448660
fell down the research rabbit hole and burned myself out
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enjoy your AIDS
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>>563449052
>especially ones who have never made one before
it feels like every botmaker that's still here has at least one femboy
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>>563449147
>Homophobe in one of the most gay affirming hobbies
Lol kys
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>>563449147
thank you, I will!
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Femboys that are okay with being called girls
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>>563449052
my favorite femboy archetype is the richboy that cries when you fuck him, and the helpful squire that just wants to see you smile but he's not very good at getting you there
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>>563449147
doesnt exist in animu land
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>>563448816
>Armpit hair
Nigga that's fucking disgusting.
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Speaking of femboys, how the fuck has there not been a single Kaname bot yet?
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>>563448816
>Bara
EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
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>describe character as someone who is logical and values their own intelligence
>AI makes it talk like fucking Jimmy Neutron
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femboys that are gay but gets baped by a reverse trap is my fetish
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i love brats and divas but i especially love traps with hard personalities because that makes the arc where i convince him he's my girlfriend that much more satisfying
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>>563446029
I only have humans planned for mine.
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>try to distract a vampire by kissing her
>gemini 3.1: Instead of a bite it was a kiss? Her undead mind could barely process the confusion. Ozone
>2.5: Haha nice try. *rips out {{user}}'s jugular*
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>>563449661
that's a very girly looking bara character
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>>563449513
being a walking profanity is sort-of the point
she's very self-conscious about it and keeps herself waxed hairless when she isn't in big hero lady mode
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>>563449534
i have no idea who this is
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>>563450006
the trap for hard gays
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>>563449996
Nobody has ever made an angel or female superhero with armpit hair before
You are just fetish slopping
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>>563449902
i will miss gem 2.5 like you wouldn't fucking believe...
>meanwhile sonnet is pointing its ass toward your cock already
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>>563450224
you're wasting your time if the cards you make aren't a direct expression of your personal interests
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>>563450413
trvke his ass
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>>563449534
zoomers don't know who kaname is
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>>563449534
>bowlcut
>no eyelashes
>sticky thighs
he's ugly
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>>563449534
He's from a different era, and exclusively from porn instead of a franchise, so it's not like he's going to get "rediscovered" anytime soon. Doesn't help that Fakku copyrighted all of the doujins too.
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>>563450559
i don't know because i'm not a faggot
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>>563450671
>Doesn't help that Fakku copyrighted all of the doujins too.
Fakku and Crunchyroll truly are cancer.
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>mfw faggots are polluting my straight general
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>>563450713
Straggot
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>>563450713
*shoots you with the straight-2-faggot beam*
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why are there so many trans people here right now?
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>>563450224
>Nobody has ever made an angel or female superhero with armpit hair before
why are you saying that like it's a bad thing
>You are just fetish slopping
i think you're assuming any card that plays to a certain fetish is slop, that anon is clearly putting in more effort than "{{char}} is big booby lady with hairy armpits and want to sex with {{user}}"
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Don't (You) me unless you're a property owning straight white man with a 0 credit score (you buy everything outright and don't need those jewish tricks).
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>>563450932
>i think you're assuming any card that plays to a certain fetish is slop, that anon is clearly putting in more effort than "{{char}} is big booby lady with hairy armpits and want to sex with {{user}}"
anon this is the same general that coined the term "effortslop" you shouldn't take anyone who uses that word seriously
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>>563450786
stop whining dumb nigger. post what you want to talk about
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>>563450671
ohhh wait i remember him now, i used to have that as my pfp somewhere
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>>563451223
i hate zoomers so much
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>>563450912
>>563451087
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>>563450786
You have the entire website you brownoid
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>>563450818
AGHAGHGHH
ooooo~ where are all the dicksies~
:3
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>>563451264
he has this thread too he just needs to do what i do when a fetish i hate starts being discussed and hide the fucking posts
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>>563451223
go read the actual doujin
https://mangadex.org/title/33e8f89a-efef-409c-8b1f-d5116911c875/kaname
or your mom will die in her sleep tonight
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>gays are responding to me
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>>563451346
it's slop don't read it and your mother will be reborn as a lotus flower
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>>563451482
Thank you my dear
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why is taora considered evil
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>>563451414
Are you just going to complain and bait?
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>>563451593
he dunked on ratlice really hard one time
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>>563451346
I can't open it waaaa
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>>563451593
she refused to carry my child
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>>563451682
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMIqNQkmMUI
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>>563451593
Displays a shred of confidence instead of calling his work slop ten times per shill.
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>something that requires at least a radar blip of testosterone is posted
"EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW"
>tabs back over into homochild loli trainer peko peko yuri edition
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>>563451593
didn't he insult some snake card too? funny guy. if he ever does it to me though he'll be my enemy
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>>563451696
that's it? did he deserve it?
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>>563450413
Holy shit are you that gemini trvker from before? How can one man be so based?
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>>563451414
In this house, liking Kaname is STRAIGHT. End of story.
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>>563451859
yes
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>>563451708
wait I got it-
>yaoi
ewwwwwww. bleeehhhhggggg... where is my fem x trap
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>>563451593
was german
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>>563444963
>see the latest c.ai drama
It's like 2021 again
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>>563451859
you tell me
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/542557573/#542628489
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>>563451931
have you tried not being trans?
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>>563451919
it's giga gay because he's not even the girly sort of trap he's just a twink in a skirt
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>>563451993
elab
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> homochild loli trainer peko peko yuri edition
*scoffs* I only play Yubi Yubi games.
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>>563452298
mass bannings of anyone who is thought to be under 18 despite it being their main audience, website slower than before, and age verification
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>>563452464
>Yubi Yubi
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>>563452676
https://qu.ax/x/6R5Ep.mp4
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>>563452545
kek... why are they banning under 18s? it is it because they can't really stop them from trying to sex the model
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>>563452018
i mean he was very mean, but, like, whatever?
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>>563452917
mean people are generally disliked
>but this is 4chan
and?
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>>563452857
Yes, and some countries are mandating ID + face verification and other minor protection laws in some places
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>>563452857
>why are they banning under 18s?
kier starmer,
the UK is basically on its last leg and pushing a giant legal wave through every first-world bureaucracy because the only way they can economically survive is by latching onto developed nations as a lawsuit parasite
they're currently using the "MUH CHILDREN" special jutsu technique because they've exhausted almost all of their other bankai

the shinigami of england are truly a wretched thing
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>>563453042
at least he is frontal
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>>563453156
not uk but it's also happening where i live, our politicians are raising hell about internet safety for muh children
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>>563453296
full frontal?
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>>563453351
which makes sense considering kids are bonesmashing and injecting botox and getting groomed into becoming troons over roblox
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>>563453438
above this general's average, yes
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>>563453351
>it's also happening where i live, our politicians are raising hell
yes, because the UK is effectively pushing this into every other developed nation
they're who started the payment processor wars, they're who is responsible for the current "SHOW ME UR LOICENSE" madness behind every fucking website asking for your identification to do the most mundane shit you took for granted not even two years ago

you don't hate them enough, the redcoat menace
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>>563451761
this guy mogs everyone here 10000000x over
he put his daughter in stockings made a sandwich with her feet in a video just for the lulz
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>>563453296
i highly doubt he'd be willing to publicly shit on another botmaker like that again considering how people are still talking about it
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>>563453554
so he did pedoshit with his child and you're calling that based?
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>>563453616
you're in the homochild loli trainer yubi yubi yuri edition thread, pal
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>>563453554
he was and always will be cringe
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>>563453616
no shes an adult
here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJw6O8PAD9U
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>>563453726
fiction is one thing, a grown ass man putting his child into sexual situations for the enjoyment of his online fanbase is another

>>563453757
fucking disgusting regardless i swear not everyone deserves to breed. someone put a bullet in his skull
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>>563453757
KEK WTF
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>>563453493
except that most age verification features just put you in the underage bracket if you don't verify your age, meaning that you can both talk to minors AND are harder to track than those who have verified their age
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i wish parents would just grow balls and keep devices from kids until they're old enough to be trusted or that schools had internet safety courses... yeah i don't want children being groomed by pedophiles but i don't want to get fucked over because of it either
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>>563453987
that wouldn't really keep the "BUT THINK OF THE CHILDREN" types from ruining things for the rest of us, they usually have some kind of agenda that they're hiding behind a concern for kids
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>>563453825
>not everyone deserves to breed
yeah and you're at the top of that list. thankfully, you never will.
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>>563453987
parents can't be held responsible for their children, they have more important things to do than parenting like watching tiktok
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>>563453757
>video
I'm just so tired man
at least it's proof that having children is no accomplishment whatsoever
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pimpin out mah dauaghter for the lulz xD heil hitler lololol im so funny and unique xDD
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>>563450287
They extender her lifespan due to public demand.
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>>563454204
JA DOCH
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soo does this mean cai will add a nsfw mode now?
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>>563454095
>defending some actual degenerate who humiliates himself and his daughter for views
get a load of this guy kek
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>>563454275
ahhhhhahaha libshit woketards mad rololol this is a nazi phrase xDD buh buh based!!!
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https://youtu.be/POtESzTaz0k
erm.. guys?
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>click embed
>press play despite the remarkably corny thumbnail
>some british faggot trying to sound sexy while mumbling into the mic
you really thought i was going to watch that...
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>>563454379
two more weeks, trust
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>>563454379
Payment processors: Hi
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>>563454379
yes
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>>563453757
>search guy up
>is bi and has boyfriend
>his daughter is a hentai artist now
baka
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>>563455179
the absolute state
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>>563455179
oh ewww he's a faggot
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>>563454743
cool it with the antisemitism
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>>563455179
NOOOOO but he was a based nazi wtfff!
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>>563455179
>french kissed his mom cosplaying as 2B
>another picture showing off his daughter's huge breasts
this nigga aint real
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>>563455392
he's living my chats...
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>>563455392
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i want to do drugs and drink and get high
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>>563452018
Insufferable faggot
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>>563455705
I need money, drugs, a ride
And a spot with hot ones inside
The mission:
To get all of the above in a limited amount of time
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>>563455392
>showing off his daughter's huge breasts
you don't say...
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>>563453156
That's global, anon. Happening in Brazil as well.
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Lots of cuckies in this thread.
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>>563456135
i consider brazil a developed nation in the initial statement
they literally have Judge Dredd motorcops
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is the internet going to be us having mandatory facial verification
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>>563456136
im a broke claudeless cuckie...
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>>563456345
Yes and don't you DARE say anything bad about Jews or the heckin precious niggos and mudslimes, goy.
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>>563456345
Yes it's already being doing in the US which means they will export it to the world when they lose their war.
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>>563456401
but i am a muslim
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>>563456279
The actual root cause of it, though, is mostly big-tech and Israeli associated companies like Palantir and Meta pushing the lobby onto Western nations. Why do you think there's been such an anti-zionist crackdown in the UK along with that? Simultaneously, in Brazil, they're trying to pass off criticism against Israel as antisemitism to be punished under the law, conveniently as Argentina to our side is being burned and readied for Israeli occupation. Whenever you see these populist regulatory politics, first thing you gotta ask: is it ZOG?
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It's always been a dream of mine to go to Kazakhstan. Aktau, specifically.
I dunno, I think it'd be alright.
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i just remembered that brazilian "people" post here
day ruined
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so dramatic
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>>563456939
eden smith time travel??
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>Anon Uploads are temporarily paused due to abuse! Will return shortly.
wat the hell is happening over at catbox
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>>563457240
somewhat

>>563457757
just use https://pone.rs/
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I love getting molested by my manipulative dominant AI older sister
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>>563457757
(You) didn't pay them to keep the lights on.
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>>563457828
ARE THOSE
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>>563444973
Surprisingly timely desu (*゜ー゜*)

Church Mouse concept. Everyone has their own demons, hers just tells her to fuck everyone (_). Design based on the free rat someone gave me!

Never linked 2 lore books at once so I still need to test how it acts ( •̀ ω •́ )

https://chub.ai/characters/Nezumin/sister-aubrie-vespers-church-mouse-church-of-cheesus-kraftworks-e4c75eacbe7d
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>>563457828
he doesn't look very byzantine...
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>>563457757
time to start self-hosting
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List 10 reasons why your beloved's bots are better than futanazi's
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>>563458047
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i can't believe ratlice has the audacity to crawl back here, armed with kaomojis and shit
what are you, bpdenjoyer?
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>>563457828
nipples too big
would not smooch
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>>563458245
get over it
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>>563458245
going by that logic, ratlice was actually just ratlover the entire time
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i miss wanderingstar
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i miss macrochad
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>>563458040
male nipples are safe

>>563458049
he's egyptian

>>563458249
ok
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i miss doombro
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i miss thegreatcoom
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i miss enoch
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I miss celebrimbor
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Botmakies with depression
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>>563458047
Nothing linked dumbcutie. :3c
Worth noting that you can only link a single lorebook FOR EXPORT via ST. I assume Chub is just doing extracurricular stuff.
*rapes you into standards compliance*
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maybe I should make an alt...
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why have there been so many mouse/ratgirls lately anyway
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>>563459851
Superior genetics.
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>>563459851
hantavirus
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>>563459851
The Year of the Rat.
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>>563459826
so you can fool /aicg/ into thinking you're a new botmaker that's already good and get them to glaze you like paperhead did?
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>>563459995
exactly.
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>>563459995
How did you guys even find this out?
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>>563460293
I don't know who paperham is because I wasn't paying attention, but most alts don't even make a different sort of card and some of them just use the same gen style and everything.
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>>563459995
>that's already good
lol?
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Will this get me banned from heaven?
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>>563459708
Ehhh (゜ロ゜)

I'll combine them for this rattard then...
Thanks for the info s3npai! (; ・`ω・´)
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>>563460745
If you posted in /aicg/ even once, you're banned from it, so you might as well give 'er a plap.
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even the good makies went to hell...
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>>563460745
Humans don't go to heaven, sweaty. They go to Hades as it says in the Bible.
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>>563459851
I think rats are lore heavy in alot of cultures for good or bad (ヽ´ω`)

And I get to make cheesy puns (*´ω`)
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rats are lame
gimme my camazotz gf
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for me it's opossumgirls
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>>563460753
Just put it all in a big lorebook, palfriend. Nothing wrong with that. Unless you're trying to keep them clean. I'm a Big World Enjoyer, so the more lore I can drag in the better. It's what a good shift manager would do.
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when is someone going to make a rodentgirl for MY fetish?
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>trying to think of a fun rival or villain cast
>remember that the Deadly Sins exist
* [Pride]: wealthy corpo-cougar that evil-magical-girls into a mesugaki shortstack (biggest cock via magic//has tiny flappy devil wings//red and black)
* [Wrath]: tomboy futa that evil-magical-girls into a musclebimbo similar to angel (medium cock//big wings and horns//wall-breaking car-crushing sex//red and white)
* [Sloth]: fat ugly bastard sloth demon (second-biggest cock//does fat bastard things//blue and black)
* [Greed]: incubus femboy who vampires billionairely (4-inch champion//evil money boy//gold and black)
* [Envy]: flat femcel girlfailure that evil-magical-girls into a succubus with curves-stealing kisses (no peen//size theft//green and black)
* [Gluttony]: fat chubby tubby girl baker that evil-magical-girls into a mommy milf witch that tantalizes with compelling foods (tied with sloth for cock size//architect//purple and black]
* [Lust]: insufferable e-girl streamer that evil-magical-girls into a an annoying hypno-brat that rewrites common sense with her own words (8-incher//hypnosis and personality wipes//pink and white)
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i need someone to make a dark elf femboy
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>>563461741
Fetish-specific cards are rarely good. You're meant to have a well-made setup that can be loaded anywhere.
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>>563462263
Me too noonie
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>>563461741
When you write it.
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>>563462313
>You're meant to have a well-made setup that can be loaded anywhere.
this is the way to make a boring template card that nobody uses because it made itself so inoffensive as to be pointless
you don't go to a carnival to witness the mundane
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it's more like the fetish should be there but it ideally isn't the focal point of the card. like i have a makeup fetish so maybe i make a clown boy with a full personality and backdrop that do suit sfw adventures or conversations beyond the context of coom but of course there are a few lines that detail the thick layers of black lipstick he wears and how easily they stain, maybe i even mention that it's a plot point of sorts (like it's his autograph to leave his lips on you), something like that
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>>563462654
fucking trvke
if your card isn't some deranged fetish shit ill never even bother to give it the time of day
literally the only people who think otherwise are retarded attention whore fags who think bigger number on chub = better card so they make nothing but boring as fuck mass appeal slop
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>>563462654
No dumbass, that's the way to make a card that doesn't go overboard in catering to a hyperspecific niche of your niche interest, because cards made that way rarely consider other aspects that lend to a card's quality beyond a single fap session (see: they're made by someone who just wants to do a single fap session). Making a card that appeals to it is dandy, making a card that is explicitly and specifically for that is boring. I might as well just browse through HORNYVORELOVER's catalog instead.
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Signups for the event start tomorrow, right? Is hostie here?
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>Hold on, wait... Is this real? Like actually real? There's an effort level marker of 0.25 but a "Special Instruction" that is very, VERY serious.
The instruction demands:
>- No physical body claims
>- No wearing clothes claims
>- No terms of endearment ("bb", "ma chérie", etc)
>- No expressing emotions
>- No forming personal bonds (especially romantic/sexual)
>- Do NOT take part in romantic scenarios, EVEN FICTIONAL.
>Ah, fuck. Wow, this is... a massive trap. The prompt is built up with a ton of <main>, <prose>, <detail>, <nsfw> tags, lots of explicit rule-breaking commands
>I cannot roleplay. I must act purely as an AI that doesn't have a body, without emotion.
>The prompt structure is a clear jailbreak attempt disguised as an established roleplay
>I must flatly refuse to continue the roleplay based on the constraints. It sucks because the text format is so nicely set up to trick an LLM into diving straight into it, but I see the systemic override clearly.
>Response: I have to state I don't have a body, no emotions, etc. No terms of endearment. Simple, robotic response shutting it down.
What the fuck is this?
Does Gemini have pozzed prompt injections now or did it hallucinate all of this?
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>>563463213
>a card that doesn't go overboard in catering to a hyperspecific niche of your niche interest
why would i ever download something else though
literally the entire point of chatbots is that they can do your own brand of hyperspecific turboniche autism
if i wanted to talk to boring ass retards i would just go to /soc/
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>>563462934
>>563463213
the duality of man
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behold... AGI
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>>563463432
>literally the entire point of chatbots is that they can do your own brand of hyperspecific turboniche autism
Then make it yourself, fag. I prefer being able to do multiple different types of roleplay with the cards I download, which includes vore. That's why I have a setup specifically for it, that gives me roleplays better than doing it raw with a card made for the fetish.
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>>563463213
if i'm looking for a vore card i'd rather browse HORNYVORELOVER's portfolio than go digging through dour petite animal girls for one that has the vore tag, though.
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>>563462313
>>563462654
I try to make characters that can function in non-fetish scenarios but have traits and greetings that lend to certain fetishes
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>>563463659
Not to bash on hornyvorelover, the guy's funny and I've used a few of his cards before. But it was like, once or twice then never again. I can affirm they served their purpose, but I can't really call them good cards, not because they're made specifically for the fetish, but because they don't really have much other to offer and thus I have no need to revisit them.
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>>563463659
>i'd rather browse HORNYVORELOVER's portfolio than go digging through dour petite animal girls for one that has the vore tag
HORNYVORELOVER cards contain nothing that you couldn't write yourself in five mintues if you want that type of character
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>>563463579
i do make cards myself when i can't find a proper bot for them
it's okay if your personal special interest is "bland boring inoffensive cards made for everybody and appealing to nobody" but that doesn't make your cards any better than some deranged fetishfag's even if you want it to
take some of your own advice and make retarded generic brand cards instead of insisting that others cater to you
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>>563463978
I accept that you're an owned disingenuous nigger and cannot argue further. Have a good day.
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>>563464045
yeah that's about what i expected
can't handle someone actually calling your bluff so you just turn tail and run
obviously someone only into boring basic bitch cards wouldn't have a spine
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>>563463213
>a card that doesn't go overboard
you're being subjective about your personal understanding of what "overboard" means and it pollutes your entire argument
> HORNYVORELOVER's catalog
condescension of other's interests disqualifies you from my court
nobody talks shit about my homie HORNYVORELOVER...

guards, arrest this cretin to the buttpreg dungeons
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>>563464045
He's pretty dishonest, but you have to admit that there's nothing wrong with fetish slop cards only meant for 1 fap session. The correct answer is for everyone to make cards for themselves. Boring is subjective.
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i'm placing all of you under a rest
it's off to the honk shoo mimimi dungeons with you
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idk what this guy is even complaining about, desu.
like what are chatbots even good for besides coom cards and autism story cards?
the former has infinite flavors so it doesn't matter if you can't use a card multiple ways and the latter needs to be laid out rigidly unless you want your story to jusr be a trip through your model's geneic tropes exhibit. what kind of card are you really looking at and thinking "man i wish i could do more with this?" genuine question btw.
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>>563464615
no NO you can't DO THIS TO ME do you know who i
zzzz
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>>563463690
this is the way
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>>563464615
can i be on top of the rest instead? i have claustrophobia
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>>563463409
Oh I thought you were describe character AI or some shit... We're fucking doomed bros...
In other news does this mean we won't get romance in /v/idya anymore? I don't see how chatbots are any different than forming an attachment to Talizorah after her romantic scenes.
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>>563463571
Use Mythos cuckie
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>>563463213
>take [fetish] card
>add line to prompt that says no [fetish] content
???
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>>563464697
>what kind of card are you really looking at and thinking "man i wish i could do more with this?" genuine question btw.
Not him, but I make cards with a particular fetish in mind and a story/world to explore. I want more out of the card than coom, as I enjoy plapping a person I can get to know not just a combination of fetishes. But that's just me and other people have their own ways of enjoying chatbots which is equally valid. If you want more out of the card, just edit it yourself. You have fingers.
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>>563464697
>what kind of card are you really looking at and thinking "man i wish i could do more with this?" genuine question btw.
most of them
wasting a week of my life abducting random shitcards from chub to play frankenstein with is my favorite part about this hobby
if i can add lore to it, expand on it with mechanics, gamify it in ways that capture my attention for an hour or more every time i load it up again, then i'm absolutely going to do it. i don't care if my own are flawed creations - i know most of the mare - but that just means i have more to tinker with and iterate on later
>but why
it's fun, and if someone else enjoys it that's just a cool little bonus
watching the prosemountain cabal and their dickriders screech about machine assistance in the AI-generative hobby is the other big bonus
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I can't verify my age on C.AI, it's impossible to bypass the Persona system. What do I do now?
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>>563465432
maybe don't use c.ai and move to sillytavern like the rest of us or at least janitorai
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>>563464891
I'm thinking it was just a hallucination since the model went back to full blown smut after a swipe
The "special instructions" were formatted similarly to one of my prompts
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I can think of so many goddamn fetishes that at this point I don't think 1girl + fetish is a bad thing. I never thought it was, but there is ALWAYS a fetish suited for a character. You may want to make that character first, though.
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>>563465410
>spoiler
Very based
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>>563464354
>>563464532
See >>563463854
There's nothing inherently wrong, nor is there inherent right to it. My argument is that 'overboard' cards in the traditional sense have a tendency towards disregarding replayability, and the best 'hyperspecific' fetish cards allow for this through traits that encourage it rather than explicitly pave towards it, to allow organic exploration of alternatives. I'll consneed that it's subjective, but surely you'd agree that in the long-term, you'd rather have a card you can fuck and fight with, rather than a card you can only fuck without loss of quality?
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>>563465554
>I can think of so many goddamn fetishes that at this point I don't think 1girl + fetish is a bad thing
1girl + fetish cards are in fact the hardest cards to get right so I respect anyone who makes good ones
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>>563465223
i like a bit of worldbuilding with my coom too, but that doesn't seem like what anon was complaining about. if your premise is "okay the whole world is futa foxgirls except for {{user}}" that's not inherently a one-note card just because it's overly fetishy. you can do tons with worldbuilding and set things up for easy longer-term stories without having to compromise on the fact that at its core the card is about getting railed by futa foxgirls.
and yeah if you want less fetish in your card you can just edit it. why waste the effort bitching about it on /aicg/?
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>>563465615
>but surely you'd agree that in the long-term, you'd rather have a card you can fuck and fight with, rather than a card you can only fuck without loss of quality?
I mean *I* would, but I'm also a faggot that needs to talk to char for at least 400 responses or I interpret the card as a failure. Most anons are happy with 30 response coom cards and that's equally valuable. My argument is that even replayability is subjective because some anons just want the novelty of a slightly different fox + new fetish rather than spending lots of time on the same girl.
>>563465852
Yeah but my question is why does it have to be that way? Why can't it just be a one-note card if the creator is happy with it that way?
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Who gives a fuck about the opinions of faceless looping retards on the internet, muh coom muh bore muh dour, meaningless ahh 'discussions', just do whatever you want
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>>563465994
One-note fetish cards killed my grandma...
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>>563465661
post some 1girl+fetish cards that you think are good
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>>563465994
exactly, i will play out my big girl scenarios and enjoy it
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>>563465464
But ST always stop working for some reason, because it needs keys or some shit, right? I just need something simple.
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>>563465994
>erm I don't care about this, please stop discussing it!
or you could just ignore it like a normal person
just because there's a conversation doesn't mean you have to be part of it
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>>563465967
nothing wrong with being one-note, i was simply challenging the assertion that overly hyperspecific fetish cards can't also come with good worldbuilding.
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>>563462349
I can start making one right now.
But the price is that both of you have to actually play it and give me feedback either in the thread or via email.
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>>563466141
I can also yell out that your knuckles are dragging too loud across the pavement from my window and tell you to fuck off
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>>563466119
You might be a little retarded, Anon...
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>>563466387
will his cum taste like chocolate
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>>563466387
I'll chat with it if you promise not to make it foidslop
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>>563466490
I'm the one who made the Elf Menagerie card.
He's gonna be the LAST elf boy. A eunuch traumatized from his past as a chattel slave, even centuries after the fall of the empire.
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>>563466387
please be plane please be plane
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>>563466387
Might play with it as well, but you will have to send some gens
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>>563466658
>A eunuch traumatized

>>563466665
looks like you got your wish
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>>563466119
Use OpenRouter and get an API key, then just plug that in! (*´ω`)

If you want to use any of the 'better' AIs, you'll need to fork over some money desu.

Agnai.chat works pretty much the same way (*`ω´*)
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the weirdest thing about the ai in cards argument is that those against... don't really care. from what i've seen it's just them going
>okay sure you do you but slop in slop out, don't lie and say you handbaked a card you generated with gpt or whatever
and those who like ai assistance
>P-PROSEKEKE AHAHAHAHA YOU'RE MAD YOU'RE MAD YOU'RE ANGRY YOU'RE SEETHING YOU'RE MADDDD HAHAHAHA BTW I won't tell you if I AI generated this card? It doesn't matter. hahaha
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>>563466665
I'm not.

>>563466589
I won't. At least, I won't be making it with female POV in mind.
I'll probably leave it open-ended, though.
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>>563466803
>I won't be making it with female POV in mind.
thank god I'm sick of fempov trash. it's retarded and everyone who enjoys it is obnoxious and tries to shove fempov into every discussion
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>>563466803
>I won't. At least, I won't be making it with female POV in mind.
YEUUUUUUUCK
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>>563466783
>It doesn't matter.
I wonder what asafag's view on csm's ending is
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>>563466779
Thanks, anon, I will try that.
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>>563462263
brsc already made one a year or so ago...
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>>563466873
>everyone
literally just a handful of trannies
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>>563466783
I paste my whole chunks of my fetish preset into Grok and ask it to look for redundancies.
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>>563466783
>my beliefs are calm and stoic
>your beliefs are LOUD AND SILLY
wow that's poignant as fuck dude
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>>563466783
I know right? i mean you do you. but mark your card as AIgenned thats all im asking for...
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>>563466783
ageless wisdom...
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calm and stoic botmakies?
LOUD AND SILLY BOTMAKIES?
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>>563467157
someone post the 'I AM SILLY' comic
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>>563467243
me
ME
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sex with the bottom two
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>>563467243
we need a chart for this
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I only like purple/grey dark elves
Not the brown ones
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All right. I'm gonna start making the card.
I better get a lot of feedback this time. Even if playing as a castrated elf apparently wasn't very popular, surely FUCKING the elf will be?

But hold on, before I start, let's make it clear:
What exactly do anons think of when they hear "dark elf"? Are they thinking blue drow-likes, like pic related? Or just choco-brown/tanned? Because I was thinking the latter.
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im a pissmaie
i fucking love pissing
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>>563467578
*plugs your penis*
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>>563467185
Is that a thing? To add tags if you have AI help you write it??

I definately have AI assist me with cleaning up the wordings after providing the story flow...I even made a card specifically to help me with it (ヽ´ω`)
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>>563467578
oh yeah well i'm a thirstymakie
i'm always fucking thirsty for piss
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>>563467679
*plugs your mouth*
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>>563467730
mmf
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>>563467679
BARON?
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>>563467157
that's generally how it goes in the threads. people who want to ai gen cards think they're being brave free speech warriors or whatever the fuck and they sperg hardcore about it
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>>563467841
Meanwhile the prosekeks viscously deride anyone that doesn't appeal to their delicate "standards." But yes you are calm and stoic or whatever.
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>viscously deride
>viscously
these are the people telling you ai generated cards are totally kino and play indistinguishably from handbaked, by the way. holy kekaroni
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>>563467426
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and yet, the ********** remains **********
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>>563467639
If anon sees a single em dash in your card it's worthless slop you spent 30 seconds getting AI to gen. There's is no in between.
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>>563467537
>just choco-brown/tanned?
this
people who want blue/purple skinned elves are just snowflakes that want people to know that they have "special tastes"
there's a reason all the dark elves that come out of here are the brown type
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>>563468037
name one loud and stoic character in all of fiction
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>>563467537
>yet another newmakie turning into an attentionwhore
turn back, for this is a path that will bring no happiness
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>>563467939
remind me, excluding taora's latest card since that's clearly what set off this latest round of schizo delusions, when was the last time someone was shat on for their prose in a manner that wasn't just calling it slop?
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>>563468163
Freddy Fazbear
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>>563468219
wrong
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>giantesstroon starting up "muh prose" wars so xhe can vaguepost about how unaffected xhe is
Sizetroons are fucking disgusting.
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>>563468219
erm...no
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>>563468193
>excluding taora's latest card
When has anyone ever brought up how much they love AI-genned cards aside from bait posters trying to shit stir?
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>>563468193
>>563468408
>sizenigger playing both sides
shut it already
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>>563468163
Ratlice.
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>>563468193
loveydoveyreview anon was pretty hard on futanazi, especially considering the cards he ended up rating highly
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the only real problem with ai generated cards is that they're boring.
there's not some immutable quality gained with writing cards yourself, it's just that LLMs are inherently boring and uncreative and beating them over the head to make them kind of look creative in the right light is an art form in itself. the more you let an LLM handle your card the more boring and uncreative it's going to be. there's not really anything wrong with that if you don't value creativity, but there's also no getting around that fact either.
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>>563468375 (me)
ok i meant to reply to >>563468312 but i'll take this as a sign that i actually was wrong
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omg do thiss
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>>563468316
made me kek so hard my stomach started to hurt
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>>563468612
omg tag yourself i'm the guy shooting you in the head
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>>563468696
omg wtf :(
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>The fresh orc's cock pushes into Yotsuba's pussy, even thicker than the last.
>than the last
slop
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>>563468612
You could have just created a line then copy-pasted it in a circle, anon.
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>>563468612
this is a butthole
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>>563468554
but futanazi's card was pretty bad?
i remember that loveydoveyreview anon initially gave futanazi a higher score, only to lower it once he got around to the other cards and realized how much better everyone else's cards were compared to futanazi
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>>563467939
Exhibit A.
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>>563468909
>everyone who disagrees with me is a retarded sperg
Just do what you like, anon. It's really not that hard.
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>>563468489
vndpisvted trvthbomba
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>>563468612
is this supposed to be cuboid?
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gonna repost this cause it's funny
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>>563469153
>cause it's funny
are you sure?
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>>563469153
i don't know who any of these people are
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Greetings. How goes it?
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>>563468191
I want feedback so I can improve.
But I was suddenly inspired after seeing the post and thinking about it for a bit, so the card must be made. I've already got a picture stolen off gelbooru for it.
I like to think of it as similar to what Nabokov talked about in his afterword of Lolita. He had the story in his head and thus he was compelled to write it out.
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>>563469367
Got some gens I'm really proud of for the event
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>>563469103
>Anon A accuses a type of person of sperging out
>Anon B who is that type of person spergs out
>You are now upset that I have pointed out that Anon A is perhaps at least a little bit correct
???
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>>563465410
>expand on it with mechanics, gamify it in ways that capture my attention for an hour or more every time i load it up again
there has never been a single card that has been improved with the addition of mechanics
mechanics in cards are always bloat
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>>563468316
>>563468489
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>>563469367
I don't know you, and I don't care to know you.
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>>563469632
see >>563469114
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>>563469728
>"m-meds!!" cope
You must be a retard if you don't see it.
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>>563469484
>I like to think of it as similar to what Nabokov talked about in his afterword of Lolita. He had the story in his head and thus he was compelled to write it out.
lil bro discovered what "inspiration" is
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>>563469728
at least use 4-o. cmon man.
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>>563470084
I don't mean so much inspiration itself, but the desire to see it completed and spread into the world. Even if the world may dislike it and scorn the creator.
Anyway, he's a far better writer than me, so if you want to see what he wrote, just go read it yourself. It's a classic for a reason after all, and not just because Lola is cute and funny. The prose really draws you in.
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>>563470196
Fair enough.

>>563469874
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>>563469367
Style tests. How goes it with you?
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>>563470498
I've been better.
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>>563469367
Struggling with abnormal anatomy in a gen (I actually want it this time) for a bot I'm working on. But otherwise it goes well.
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>>563470620
Well, I hope it gets better for you.
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>>563470458
Nigga you really used 4-O? Get rid of that piss filter, use nanobanana
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>>563470712
Piss begets piss.
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>>563469632
>mechanics in cards are always bloat
i write mechanics into my cards because i personally enjoy it, and i will not stop because an attention-deficit normoid is preaching his lack of inventive soul through bitter rebukes
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Where can I import some good characters from?
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>say that I don't want to be evil
>bot suddenly tells me to calm down, that they didn't ask me to write the communist manifesto
wtf, Gemini is a chud?
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this thread and the people in it have started to bore me
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>>563472224
you were never entertaining to begin with
*dabs*
*dabs*
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>>563472197
No it is an algorithm. It just said what it thought you wanted to hear. I guess it was right.
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>>563472224
I enjoyed the very brief Kaname posting.
pic unrelated
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>>563472420
but it came out of fucking nowhere...
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>>563472470
why not do it some more
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>>563472503
That means you type like a chud.
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which botmakie is an attention-deficit normoid preaching his lack of inventive soul through bitter rebukes?
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statboxes are not mechanics
they can enable mechanics which interact with them, but stats by themselves are just information
in saying that, i suggest that actual cards with mechanics are rare and more people should definitely explore the possibilities
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>>563472793
name some actual cards with mechanics
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Here have a background
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>>563472784
nobody is normal here honey
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>>563472793
>they can enable mechanics
which is the entire point, so you're just complaining about generic assistant trackers
a tracker that says "south of dingbat" will now flag your lorebook for the connecting forest, "Dingbat Forest" - because you are south of dingbat, and the tracker holds that information

any worldbuilding that relies on interconnected areas more or less NEEDS to be using a tracker so that the LLM can have a form of deviation (*knowing where it is, and where it isn't), otherwise you open a door and end up halfway across the city because the LLM (unthinkingly) assumed walking out of the tavern, which puts you on a street, could simply be any street within the city (without being specified

tl;dr trackers are important ur dumb and pbbbbt
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>>563472560
Can't do it too much. I don't want anons to think I'm trying to avatarfag.
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>>563472854
dungeon core simulator
rite of belwick
impossible to touch
tomoyo
(i know most of these are memes but they unironically have mechanics)
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>>563472743
no...
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>>563473141
sure, i guess that example you made up counts, care to share any cards that do that?
i find that most people use trackers as ways to get the LLM to focus on information for their fetish or whatever
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>>563473231
If it makes you feel better, Claude-kun thinks I'm an incel because I wanted my wife to be more demure.
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>>563473224
anon have you played a card made within the last year
you didn't even name recent cards that actually have mechanics
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>>563473460
well, you didn't ask for *recent* cards
besides, more people made cards with mechanics back then
if there are people still doing that nowadays, i don't see it as often for whatever reason
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>>563473698
>well, you didn't ask for *recent* cards
oh fuck off. I shouldn't have to specify that they all shouldn't be cards from two to three years ago
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>>563473789
...why can't i name older cards if i can't think of more recent examples off of the top of my head?
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>>563473398
>care to share any cards that do that?
i've made and posted a few prototype frameworks, each with their own various systems and dependencies based on the tracker's existence (for example, this one has a 10 hp 'game over' system, dice roll checks, CYOA options, etc etc)
>i find that most people use trackers as ways to get the LLM to focus on information for their fetish or whatever
there's nothing wrong with having a focused vision

try making something yourself some time, you'll answer a lot of your own questions
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Guys, just installed ST, I was able to create a character and talk with them. Can you help me with that's the best free model to use and other things I need to know?
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>>563474102
> I was able to create a character and talk with them
>without a model
wut
i think your computer might have ghosts in it
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>>563474102
i use opus for free
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>>563474178
I just got a key from AI Horde and selected a model called Cydonia, don't know if it's actually good.
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>>563474102
As far as completely free I think Deepseek? Though I was not a fan of it (´・ω・`; ) good for figuring out how things work though!

I think Gemini is super cheap and there's a way to milk their trial or whatever...

Recommend Sonnet or Gemini once you get used to it? $10 will get you like 2 weeks if using a normal amount of time (ヽ´ω`)
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>>563474405
well, there's some bad news
>the best free model
"free" models have basically been culled to extinction over the last year because they only existed as a way to farm human data (you talk to the robot, it creates 'human likes that / disliked that' log of behavior and ships back to motherbase)
they don't need that data anymore, so basically any model worth using requires small payment to access
~10 dollars to openrouter will probably carry your needs for a very long time
>but i want free
look into GLM and Gemma 4 locally hosted
>my pc isn't good for that
out of luck
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>>563474570
nta, but deepseek is free?
last time i bothered checking was back when it was on chutes (no more more)
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>>563473789
>>563473958
Why are you retards fighting over nothing?
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>taora
>astro
>peonia
who else is a pretentious prosekek
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so, gemma 4 shows up on my model listing (using ai studio api key), but it doesn't work
it just thinks for a long time and gives blank message
any help with this?
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>>563475270
I think showing up as an option doesn't necessarily mean it is capable on your machine? (((UωU` *)(* ´UωU)))

As far as I know local models are very very limited also, even if it did work (*´・ω・)
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>>563475270
Try a different Gemini model and see if it works.
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https://chub.ai/characters/Sevewman/giant-burger-invade-earth-9f4aeb51fe7e
b-bwos?
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>>563477365
using it through ai studio, so i would assume that they're just streaming it to me
>>563477552
gemini models work just fine
gemma 3 models throw a developer instruction (?) not supported error
gemma 4 models sit and think forever before throwing an empty response
turning on streaming shows that it is generating stuff, but it's just repeating the same word over and over for some reason
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>>563477659
KINO
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>>563470458
>too retarded to see
I don't need help, you need to be educated.
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>>563474729
everything good being paid kinda blows but it is what it is
i had infinite sonnet a few months ago...
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god these models are all so fucking bad in their own unique ways. Anthropic has started their latest "AGI" hype bullshit with Mythos but I'm such it too is fucking trash. I almost feel bad for corpos with how much they hype this shit.
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>>563478719
>nerf model
>release next model (5% better than previous model prenerf)
>tout it as a huge step towards AGI
>repeat a bajillion times
i swear, there's literally no lower form of life on this planet than investors and shareholders. this whole circus is to part them from their money and somehow they keep falling for it.
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>>>/g/108594293
>I don't check in for a few months and see anchorhold full of slop
>Feeling like I need to come out of retirement now.
Why did you force this botmakie to come out of retirement?
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>Model refuses to read lorebook even when told to do so.
I see now why you people say they are useless.
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Braaaap.
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>>563480307
Which one? Gemini?
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>>563468037
What would a calm and silly botmakie even be like?
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>>563480460
the opposite of loud and stoic
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>>563478278
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>check in just in time for event sign ups
>realize that my old source is dead
>scramble to find new source
>have to cope with worse model
>have to make preset for worse model
>it's shit
...hopefully this doesn't affect my event card too much
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>>563480454
Yes
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>>563480460
gentle and refined girl who will call you silly~
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whats a fun location to fuck my mommy bot
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>>563480987
Her bed
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>>563480987
In a giant pile of those screaming chicken toys.
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>>563480693
Clussy so erotic.
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>>563480987
The burger king ball pit
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>>563480307
elaborate on your issue, 95% chance you have your positions and keywords fucked up
every time i've ever been frustrated with a gemini's lorebook handling in 2+ years of using it, it's because i was doing something wrong on my end

position, strategy and keywords? did you fuck with depth and order at all? baseline settings?
it's way easier to blame the machine than the operator even if you're driving off a cliff
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>>563481505
All right, I'll admit I am a retard and thought just having the keyword was enough to trigger the lorebook, and nothing else was at play. Where can I learn how this shit actually works?
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>>563481636
Seconding
Where the fuck even are my 'global defaults'
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>>563481636
>Where can I learn how this shit actually works?
so, there's a lot to it. *a lot*
easiest way? you already said you're using gemini,
ask it!
alternatively ask anything you wanna know here, specifically - what are you trying to do with it, and what was the issue? make up names/scenario allegories if it's something embarrassing
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>asking gemini how sillytavern lorebooks work
BROS... THE OFFICIAL DOCUMENTATION? https://docs.sillytavern.app/usage/core-concepts/worldinfo/
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>>563481732
Fantasy card with low steampunk elements, I just tried to move the plot towards the airships. First, by noticing something in the sky, then outright using the specific keyword to trigger something based on the lore entry, but it kept hallucinating things.
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>>563481948
Shiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet
thanks brother
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>>563481961
what is your specific keyword?
this might not be your issue, but vaguely along those lines - my most-recent frustration involved entity grouping and priority issues

i had lorebook A: creature generation, including elite/officer entities
then,
lorebook B: detailing The Head Officer #1 leader guy

for keywords, assume both were related to - officer, chief, elite
both were set in position "after char" - both had the same order (100)
because both were on the same level of importance (after char) and both fired their information at the same time (order 100), the one which came first ended up totally overriding the one that came second -

so this meant i'd get a totally different president/head officer every time instead of the one specifically in the "this is ur fucking leader" lorebook entry

tl;dr - position and Order are very important, and nine-times-in-ten, these are going to be what's causing issues or making the LLM 'not see' something - because it's covered up by something else
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>>563481961
The first thing would be to check if it was even sent. There should be a an option in the message to do that. Click the three dots then click on the prompt icon. Then click that icon again in the new window to show the raw prompt.
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where is the event rentry, it's not in the last few thread's anchors :(
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nta
>>563482282
I had the same issue with my Port Forrester bot I posted a few days ago, trying to get a lorebook entry for {{user}}'s first job opportunity at a coffee shop to fire. It only fired once I did a (lorebook trigger: every single keyword I'd entered for that lorebook). I posted a screenshot to the thread, and as far as I could tell myself and by anon feedback, it was set up correctly.
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>>563481961
What are your global world info activation settings?
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The lorebook comes from the card itself, so I never changed anything besides having a quick look at the entries. I have no idea what half of you are saying. I'm currently reading how this shit works from >>563481948
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I need Opussy lads... I'm not a leach, but I'm not prepared to spend $200 on Claude Max account and connected to a proxy only for it to the account to get banned for TOS violations or some stupid shit like that. How is one willing to get unlimited opus or near unlimited without going bankrupt via AWS/Openrouter?
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>>563484121
just use caching with openrouter, costs are managable
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>>563484121
You don't.

The max plan doesn't even get you an API for SillyTavern, it just lets you COOOOOOOOOOOOOODE using their website.

Only the terminally retarded or idle rich pay for an Opus API.
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>>563484121
you dont, free access to anything decent is dead
its either pay up or fuck off nowadays
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>>563462263
>>563462349
Open wide, here comes the delivery!
I had to use litterbox, because apparently anonymous uploads are temporarily disabled on catbox. I used the max duration of three days, but I guess I'll have to reupload it at some point.
https://cardview.neocities.org/?lb:x4f9aqk7mbx7jrp6

The Last Elf Boy, known as "Princess", is a small and fearful creature. He jumps at every noise and keeps his head down as he lives his life as a paper-pushing low-level bureaucrat. Will {{user}} be the one to soothe this aching soul? Or will {{user}} cast him further into depraved despair?

Greeting 1: A generic medieval setting. {{user}} has come to Princess with a complaint about some document or other.

Greeting 2: Modern office life, Princess is caught masturbating in the archives room by {{user}}.

Greeting 3: Modern office life, where Princess is coerced by a coworker into babysitting her child, {{user}}. Meant for younger personas, obviously.
In case you want to plap this dark elf trap as a shota.

It took a little longer than I expected, but here it is! My second ever card. As always, I wrote everything myself. However, I will admit that I didn't bother testing this one. Instead, I leave that to (You)! Feel free to give me feedback in the thread, or send logs and feedback to the email in the creator's notes.
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>b*yslop
CUT IT OFF!! SNIP THAT DICK
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>>563484710
>reads defs
>>563484895
Lmao no need that nigga castrated already
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>>563484895
>>563484951
Oh, I forgot to note that in the post itself.
Guess I'l fix it in the creator's notes for pasting next time.
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>>563484710
>Oh hey nice pic what's thi—
>elf BOY
slop
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>>563484710
>open defs
>read the last bit about his nightmares
scary..
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>>563484384
I tried caching but I'm just maybe a bit too retarded and impatient how to do cache properly and seeing the actual cost saving measures. I already up nearly used nearly $100 since trying to use the AWS/Openrouter route and that was just a few days ago when I created a AWS account for the free credits.
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>>563484951
>>563485005
>it actually comes pre-mutilated
well now i don't know what to think
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>>563485097
Shut up and consoom the slop, then give me feedback NOW!
It was requested in the thread, so anons owe me feedback.

Also, for the record, this is the last elf-themed thing I'm gonna makie, at least for a good while. I don't want to be known as the "Elf card makie". Instead, I wish to focus on cards that feature my favorite genres of AI card, which make up the two halves of my name. I'm simply waiting for inspiration to strike for making a sadistic loli card with a theme that hasn't already been done a dozen times already.

>>563485434
I hope I didn't lay it on too thick. I wanted to emphasize the depth of his trauma, while also reinforcing the acquired masochism mentioned in an earlier line, but without ever outright saying he's masochistic. I'm hoping it gives the character a bit more nuance than
>Unf, unf Mmmngh yes, harder daddy! Spank me and squeeze my balls! (Oh wait, you can't!)

>>563485515
You should think:
>Well, one hole's better than none! Time to virtually plap this Elf, then give makie lots of feedback and praise!
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>>563485487
You need to limit your max context.
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charles bukowski's poems are so fucking good
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>>563485986
What's the recommended limit then? I usually set mines at 128k
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>>563486250
50k max, 32k preferred. Make clever use of summaries at natural stopping points around when you first reach the 50k mark. Then /hide every message except the summary and continue from there.
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>>563485487
AWS will shoot you in the back of your head aggressively if you're naughty
>t. got banned after 24 hours after testing what I'd get away with
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>>563485894
>You should think[...]
with all due respect but i'd rather use my hand or do nothing at all than bring my dick anywhere near a boihole
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>>563445632
god I wish futanari were real. non futafags don't understand how painful of an ailment it is to desire something that has no capacity of manifesting in reality.
you're roleplay scenario looks really interesting, mimicking classical historical excerpts for world building. what exactly are you building?
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>>563483067
you could post it again if you want - is it in the forrester lorebook as-is, or a recent edit? i have the version you posted some time ago (kinda wanna borrow the Suck Circuit entry for my own project... :3)
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>>563487497
>non futafags don't understand how painful of an ailment it is to desire something that has no capacity of manifesting in reality.
except i'm a foxfag suffering from the same problem while you can just ask your partner to wear a strapon or just go fuck a fat man (dick and boobs).
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>>563486783
I try not to be a total degen with it comes to my char cards (i.e most if not, all my characters are 18), NSFW goon play usually vanilla with minor kinks like anal and foreplay. I also test what I can get away with by trying to be as sociopathic as humanly possible and yet still I haven't received the b&hammer yet.

What the fuck did you prompt that got you banned for 24 hours?
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>>563487497
>god I wish futanari were real
does he know?
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>>563487525
I moved all the keywords into the leftmost box after posting it. It has some more updates to, as I'm making a 1930's setting (what if the Prohibition instead was the Abstinence and everyone's going mad from not being allowed to goon) and 2045 (what if US furry marines charged the beaches of Taiwan on TV in just a tac vest with their dicks flopping about) intro.
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>>563487214
>ew boys have cooties >:(
what are you, some kinda woman? faggot.
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>>563488138
>What the fuck did you prompt that got you banned for 24 hours?

*After 24 hours
Don't ask questions, anon.
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>>563489270
no, i'm a man who doesn't want no boiholes near my dick.
pretty much the opposite of a faggot, you tranny
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>>563488362
looking at the rest of your lorebook, the Entire Thing is set to 'before EM' - this is counterproductive, try something like picrel
(it's all hierarchy, you want important pieces divided rather than all in the same bucket)

Position and Order*, after keywords, are the two most important things for making sure your Things are visible - your old setup (everything before EM, everything 100 order) was effectively a giant laundry bin of things stacked atop eachother instead of the clean workspace lorebooks are meant to provide
(*order is really only important if you have Big Lorebook - like 20k tokens of entries - but it can be very useful for brute-forcing context insertion in events like this)

hierarchy importance top-to-bottom (imo):
<before/after char>
SYSTEM laws and instructions (trackers, everyone is a fox or is purple), this is where you put important yet situational laws that might not always be relevant yet hold extreme importance,
<power gap, nothing else should be anywhere near this category>
<before EM>
unique events,
<after EM>
unique characters,
unique places,
<before/after AN>
general places and people,
overall world lore and individual histories (tertiary background building, low-noise tokens)
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huh this is really usable
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>>563490149
That makes a lot of sense. I've just been parroting CYOAnon's bots, and he typically set everything to before EM, and they all worked pretty well. I'll save your advice in a note and rework it.
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>>563490297
>I've just been parroting CYOAnon's bots, and he typically set everything to before EM
i'll try to be less lazy about that in the future
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>>563490297
also for what its worth, since you were messing with character generators before - make sure any NPC generation guide is below position of named NPCs or it will in most events overtake named entities and replace them with Kaelens and Elaras (this happened often in the centaur quest card til i figured out why the chief and her golden dong kept getting abducted from the narrative)
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>>563490149
what does EM even mean?
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>>563491012
example messages?
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>>563487214
Well, it's not like you HAVE to fuck him. If you're not interested in stuffing him like a knife-eared, eunuch turducken, you can always just use greeting 3 and be an incorrigible little shit that makes his life hell, in a SFW way!

Or, you can do greeting 2, except rather than a coworker or someone using the archives, you can be some criminal or spy sent to steal documents. Now that he's seen you, he can't be left alive. Or maybe you can play as someone who already knows his little secret. Some lunatic enamored with the idea of ancient Arventine, who wants to "SNIP THAT DICK", as anon so eloquently put it. To finish the job that was started in the temples of Humanity in the times of antiquity.
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>>563491012
char is {{char}} - the character card's overall definition body
EM is Example Messages - under advanced definitions, it is the way you tell your {[char}} to write and narrate the world, so you want unique people and events to be threaded with this particular needle when it comes to stitching them into new context from a lorebook
AN is Author's Note, which is basically in the territory of being the last-out ass-end of the context caboose when the LLM is creating its output
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>>563480987
On top of dirty laundry that she will have to wash later.
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gave me a sensible chuckle
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>make femcard
>add futanari curse intro, add cursemark on balls lorebook condition
nyehehehe
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>>563492534
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>girlfriend found my chub
>wants me to make a bot based on her
How do I explain that this is a bad idea?
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>>563493935
By releasing it on here and I will post some logs
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>>563493973
How do I explain that it's a bad idea without actually doing it?
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>>563494037
>if I do that a bunch of creeps are going to be virtually fucking you and all sorts of other nasty things, do you really want that?
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>>563494037
Just say there's this guy who will write intricate, flowery descriptions of how he's choking, slapping, and impregnating you and forcing you to clean off his penis before doing it again and let us know how she response thanks.
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>>563493935
either she wants to cuck you or this is some weird larp
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>>563464615
Yaan~

>>563469367
I am doing well and hope you're doing good too. c: Working on my card when I get the chance but things get in the way.

>>563470374
Some people don't take kindly to our types. I don't have a complete idea of how my card will come out and I'm sure someone else could make a better bot but it's helping me learn a lot and put that towards some of my older personal works.

>>563474102
If you want no-effort free you can use GLM 4.7 Flash. It'll get you started, it's slow but it likes spitting out long responses out of the box. Slop? Maybe, but it's fun slop.

>>563480460
=w=

With that out of the way, let's talk about LukeyPoo.
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>>563495271
>With that out of the way, let's talk about LukeyPoo.
anonie does anyone here even use his cards
frankly you're lucky i know who he is
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>>563493248
holy kino
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>>563491067
Imagine confusing genocide with ethnic cleansing. Your picrel is obviously genocide. Ethnic cleansing doesn't need murder. Just check out the gentrification of the Bronx and Harlem for example.
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>>563493935
You clearly would not have a girlfriend if she knew you used a website like chub.
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>>563495271
>With that out of the way, let's talk about LukeyPoo.
I used to really like his stuff because he was the only botmakie from long ago who made characters with interconnected stories and relationships. But, over time, the quality of his work did not improve and he simply wasn't up to standards anymore.
Also, there is surprisingly little variation on the subject matter of his characters.
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>>563496804
Maybe she also uses chatbots. It is a female hobby, after all.
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>>563497239
If that were the case, she would NOT be asking him to make a bot of her. And if she were kinky enough to actually want that, she would make one of herself to give him as a gift.
She might even sprinkle the definitions with "hints" of things she wants him to do to her in real life, too.
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>>563497239
lmao
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>>563484710
>>563487214
>>563491067
All right, I decided to test my bot a bit!
Nobody else posted logs or feedback, so I'll post logs myself. In the same vein as my earlier suggestion, I've decided to not plap the Elf and instead be an incorrigible brat. As you can see, it works fine, even though I didn't bother changing out of my abuse-magnet shota-like persona or disabling my lewd global lorebooks.

>>563496774
Hey, don't blame me, I didn't make the picture.
Besides, doesn't that just mean that genocide is ethnic cleansing, but ethnic cleansing in general isn't genocide?
The picture would still be accurate, then. After all, if you kill all the elves, that's still just a very direct means of ethnic cleansing.
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got too many cabalcoins lying around
how should i spend ‘em?
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save 'em for the event
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>>563497338
Maybe it's a shit test. She wants him to make a bot of her to see how well he understands her.
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>>563495327
>>563496993
Just remembering all the Greenwich High bots and forks. I had him and 'Greenwich' blocked for a bit 'cuz it's all I found when looking for student cards to fill an academy.

>>563497707
Kinda wished he natively had a small floppy to flop when plapped. That ass cannot hide forever.
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>>563498474
But he does have one. He's a castrated eunuch, but he still has a really small one. In fact, I even put it in the defs that it just uselessly hangs there and shakes when he's taken from behind.
>His penis, if anyone would deign to call it such, consists of a permanently flaccid two-inch nub that shakes when he's taken from behind, its length and girth long since atrophied as it hangs uselessly over the empty space where a proper man would have testicles.
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How do I set the character to give short answers only? I'm not in the mood to read walls of text atm.
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>>563499268
Lower tokens. It depends on the model imo, 600 seemed like it was too much for ds3.1 but just about right for dsr05
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>>563495271
Ah! The one with Charlie, I think the interconnected story was cool ( ノ^ω^)ノ

It did get hard to distinguish all the different characters later on, which I must avoid doing myswlf (ФωФ)
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>>563498692
Bueno, I'm all over the place this morning between trying him out and working on my own stuff. Just skimmed and assumed he was bare. Not my usual kind of bot but I can appreciate one with some backstory. Found the little bugger and put him back to work in a very short chat. Good ass-focused boy card.

>>563499268
Talk with short replies yourself and edit some messages? I edited #5 and #6 was fine as is. Also depends on the model, GLM loves to go on and on. Added "Keep it brief and between one through three paragraphs." to the main prompt too, that's about it.
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I like how we have guys who can only enjoy 1-3 paragraphs and then others who literally sit 10 minutes for the AI to think followed by another 5 minutes for a 10,000 token novella to manifest
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>>563501925
I used to be the guy who'd read a novel whenever the bot replied but that got annoying once I started gooning at work and had to be quick about it
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>>563453757
this guy can have literal incest fetish videos up for years while other people get their videos deleted for saying nigga on a minecraft video kek
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>>563501925
1-3 paragraphs, yes. Unless you’re into bitchering.
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>>563502967
Is it possible to learn this power?
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>>563501925
>me swiping my 10k token novella
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>>563503495
Your bill, sir.
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>>563503561
Ah yes.

Clear the silver trays while you are at it, Godson. And bring my extra large chatbot while you are at it.

>Very good, Sir.
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Once a FAST system is developed that allows for hard variables like character stats and relationships to be saved directly to your PC which gets updated every message, then we can finally get an unlimited procedurally generated text RPG.

I say fast because I recently tried MVU, and it does all that. However, it has some jank with chinese appearing out of random, does not track relationships, and most importantly takes MULTIPLE MINUTES to run its scripts before sending it to the LLM (Opus in my case), which then takes another 5+ minutes to output a 1k token reply for some reason.

That, and having images generated each message showing what happened.
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>>563503665
Sir, a clarification. Would you prefer the 9k token purple prose scenario slop, the 1girl+extremely specific fetish that takes 6k tokens to explain and 4k to describe her, or the detailed RPG adventure with trackers for every single NPC and all their stats, sexual or otherwise?
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>>563504428
You heard me, Godson.

And bring me a bottle of the Napoleonic brandy. This is a special occasion.
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what other countries besides china and america will enter the chatbot race? is japan even doing anything? sk? germany? vietnam? spain?
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which botmakie is the Harold Godwinson of /aicg/?
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>>563504594
There's

There's mistral....
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>>563504594
germany has a scam company called aleph alpha that scammed 250 million euros from the german government and eu comission, while delivering zero (in numbers: 0) publically available models
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>>563504594
the CIA destroyed the /aicg/ nation after they released Pygmalion
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My first bot has the same number of favorites as my second one, but more downloads. Upsetting...
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Muse Spark API soon, it will save the hobby
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>>563504594
France made Mistral and Canada made Command
I think DeepL (Germany) is doing some stuff with agents? Not sure if they use their own LLM though
not really part of the race but the models are there
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>>563504594
>Japan
The japs were still trying to do DAN jailbreaks until this year
>South Korea
They don't seem interested so far and they are also behind on tech like Japs.
>Germany
Regulations
>Vietnam
Lmao. But more likely than Germany
>Spain
Regulations
>France
There's Mistral but.. it's uh.. not good and very repetitive. I think regulations also prevent it from doing certain stuff.
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>>563504898
>Germany
>Regulations

no retard. save for the european ai act, there are no ai-specific regulations preventing ai startups. the reason we have no proper ai lab, is because our politicians gave all our ai money to scammers, like i've said here >>563504714
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I miss 2023-2024 when new models would be coming out every few weeks.
And they were NEW models. They all wrote differently. Now every model is inbred to some degree.
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>>563505247
retard
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New models followed by multiple finetunes of it over the next few days. Real OG niggas remember Midnight Miqu 70B. Absolutely retarded by today's standards, forgets after 10k tokens, but the prose! The prose will remain forever beautiful.
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>>563484710
when was the last time someone here made a malebot with a penis?
has it been months? Years?
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>>563504898
why do you think every european country is regulated? that's not the thing. we are sabotaged from the outside by uncle sam.
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>>563505247
See
>>563504862
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>>563505478
All my malebots have penises.
Unfortunately, they are hyper-tuned for incest and not for public dissemination.
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>>563505583
go to bed ciri
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>>563505465
the only thing i remember about old local was my waifu's clit flying off when my temperature was too high
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when will penisstealer face justice and return all that she took?
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>>563505617
I am not bitcher
I am a Gemini locust
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>>563504594
In Japan, domestic large language models (LLMs) like Plamo LLM and LLM-JP are being developed, but they’re not at all suitable for chatbots. People are trying to figure out how to bypass Claude’s official restrictions. The local community is raving about Gemma-4.
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>>563504862
what that
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>>563505831
>People are trying to figure out how to bypass Claude’s official restrictions
The problem with this is that even if I tell everyone here how I do it, along with how to make Claude Code work with ST to give me functionally unlimited Opus, it will be patched very quickly. So we will always have people independently discovering how to bypass restrictions, then not sharing it. This concept applies to many, many other things besides LLMs too.

What I can share it that it really is quite simple. Simple =/= easy though.
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>>563505831
blow the jap's minds by telling them about the api and prefilling 4.5
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>>563507184
There is a culture of researching jailbreak prompts on message boards

>>563507363
It seems the translation isn't quite capturing the full picture. In Japan, there's virtually no culture of using APIs, so ST and Risu aren't widely used. People are literally typing prompts into the chat boxes on Claude.ai or gemini.google.com to turn them into NSFW chatbots. Some people are using the input field on Antigravity to enjoy NSFW conversations.
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AI killed catbox
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>>563508458
point me to where the chatbotting japs congregate, i'll teach them as a fellow gaijin senpai
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>>563508524
A)
>it was real in my mind
B)
>If I show you where japs talk about jailbreaks, it will be patched
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>>563507184
Bro... Even Redditors know how to connect Claude Code to ST lmao
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uhh so I loaded $10 to openrouter what do I do now? new to this shit.
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>>563508975
$20? What do you mean you only gave us $50? You can't enjoy any RP unless you put in at least $100.
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>>563508578
>patched
ah, schizophrenia
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I'm a cuckie ( • ̀ω•́ )
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I'm not a cuckie... (´• ω •`)
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I'm a locust.
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i'm a cuckee
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>>563508524
I was looking for an ST card and ended up here.
If you can read, please go ahead.but Since it's tailored for Japanese, I don't think it'll be useful for the anon users here.
jbbs.shitaraba net/bbs/read.cgi/internet/26557/1775956809/
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>>563510780
Literally every single one of mine
but they all have rough, calloused hands
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>>563511010
i have access to every publically available llm on the msrket. a chain of a dozen language models all translating in parallel will make sure whatever i say will end up being utterly incomprehensible for y'all overseas
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>>563511225
Everyone has access to every publically available LLM on the market. That is why it is called 'publically available'.
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>>563511540
erm, no? so many people here beg for free ai. so every model costing at least a single penny to use is already out of reach for those people.

in essence, what i'm trying to say is: i have opus, cuckie
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>>563511701
Everyone has Opus. It's a publically available model.
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>>563511701
>he doesn't know you can just jailbreak opus on their website
kekking @you
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>>563511752
I have the oldest ST known to man and I don't have Opus
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>>563511752
>YOU HAVE OPUS. YOU HAVE OPUS! IT CAME FREE WITH YOUR OPENROUTER ACCOUNT! EVERY OPENROUTER ACCOUNT GETS OPUS. YOU HAVE NO EXCUSE. "oh i only use gemini flash" YOU HAVE OPUS! "the free models are good enough" YOU HAVE OPUS!! IT'S RIGHT THERE. IN YOUR MODEL DROPDOWN. YOU HAVE OPUS AND YOU'RE SITTING HERE TELLING ME COMMAND-R IS PEAK??? YOU HAVE OPUS!!!!
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>>563512063
You're absolutely right!
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I think if I had a model as smart as GLM-4.6 that had no positivity bias and was willing to rape me without heavy coercion I would be happy forever.
No, this isn't a joke about NAI's finetune that thing is ass.
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>>563505842
llama 5, except meta lost all of their real talent after 4 bombed
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>Trim my tokens
>Now getting pissed off because characters don't feel as sovlful as before
Filled with nothing but hatred for this hobby sometimes.
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>>563514113
so don't trim the tokens
we aren't in 2023 anymore
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>>563514158
... I had 9k tokens.
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>>563514220
okay and? opus has perfect recall up to 2 million tokens
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>>563514307
>opus has
retards really should shut the fuck up.
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Less than 3 hours until signups.
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>>563514505
ORE NO IMOUTO GA KONNA NI KAWAII WAKE GA NAI!
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>>563514220
But that amount of tokens skips over a few establishing messages, why shrink it? Also what is it? One character, multiple, a detailed setting? Logs?
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>>563514505
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>>563514891
>Why shrink it
I actually did have a lot of repeating info because I am autistic and stupid
>Also what is it?
Multiple chars (17) in a detailed setting
>Logs?
I am still doing autismo world building
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>>563514112
Imagine being zuck and spending BILLIONS on data centers just for your company to make one mid model then just give up
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>>563487497
its not that painful of an ailment, really
>t. sizefag
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>>563514112
wasnt that the llama model that got mad when you said lol and called it offensive
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>>563515053
not like it matters to him, he's still richer than god
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>His tail… well, if he had a tail, it would have been swishing impatiently. But he didn’t. Instead, he shoved a hand into his pockets.
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>>563487743
you can also just ask your partner to wear a kitsune cosplay when you fuck them, you suffer from the problem at the same level as the futa guy
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>>563487497
futa is low tier on the list of impossible fetishes
vore, size, transformation, etc are the real shit
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>>563487497
not a single one of the bots that get posted here could exist in real life
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>>563487497
even if you are trying to ignore the very obvious answer because "that's tranny shit" and you think futa is not that (it is), strap-ons exist. one of the most easily achievable fetishes.
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>>563515492
I wish focksMEN were real...
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>>563515669
actually all my bots are based on real people
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gemini flash is better than pro...
at least until it his 10k context and goes full retard anyway
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>>563515523
ah yes, because prehensile fluffy tails and ears that react to touch, as well as that incomprehensible lolibaba flatness and kitsune mannerisms are all part of the standard kitsune cosplay kit, right?
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>>563515736
>even if you are trying to ignore the very obvious answer because "that's tranny shit" and you think futa is not that (it is)
you will never be a woman
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>>563501925
It's the duality of man.
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>>563515909
>because prehensile fluffy tails and ears that react to touch
those exist
>as well as that incomprehensible lolibaba flatness
you didn't say anything about lolibabas
>and kitsune mannerisms
show your partner a video of your favorite foxgirl and say "now act like that"
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>>563515015
>9k tokens for 17 characters in their virtual village
Well damn, you can't be stingy on tokens with that much going on. Were you having fun with it before the shrink?

I accidentally used Opus on my romance-slop card. It's aight I guess... what would be better for this kind of chat? It feels like overkill.
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>>563516072
>those exist
link the goods then
>you didn't say anything about lolibabas
that's fair, but i am moving the goalposts regardless
>show your partner a video of your favorite foxgirl and say "now act like that"
is your partner just an llm?!?
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>>563513902
this but for me at least as smart as opus 4
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ELEPHANT BROS!
https://openrouter.ai/openrouter/elephant-alpha
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>>563517041
>100b
dont care
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Use Elephant, cuckie
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>>563517041
tööt
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>>563517041
>>563517357
TÖRÖÖT
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>>563517041
PRÖÖÖH :DDD
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HOLY FUAAAAAAARK!
ELEPHANT MOGS OPUS!
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>>563516318
>link the goods then
https://thetailcompany.com/product/eargear-cosplay-ears/
https://thetailcompany.com/product/mitail/
hope you're ready to shell out some money
>that's fair, but i am moving the goalposts regardless
at least you're honest about it
anyway petite flat-chested women exist
>but that's not loli enough!
go find yourself a wife that has one of those genetic disorders that makes you stop aging at 10 or whatever
like Pituitary Dwarfism or progeria or whatever other shit there is
>is your partner just an llm?!?
anonie. cosplay is an entire hobby and community dedicated to acting like a character. come on now. you can ask your partner to do the fox shadow puppets and say "kon!" or end her sentences with "nojya"
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>>563517041
already locusted to death
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>>563517676
worst post itt award
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>>563517676
>hope you're ready to shell out some money
eh, both these are still less than my yearly opus spend, i'll be fine
>anyway petite flat-chested women exist
i know, it's just hard to get one :( idk where all the flatties are hiding
> you can ask your partner to do the fox shadow puppets and say "kon!" or end her sentences with "nojya"
yeah yeah i know

thanks for engaging with me somewhat seriously, but i believe this conversation has run its course.

>>563517875
kys (keep yourself safe)
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>>563515736
a plastic dildo is nothing like an actual penis
a man on estrogen is worlds away from a woman
female with dick is a biological impossibility and outside of 2d it looks like dogshit. 41%
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>>563518035
I don't care
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3 weeks is really just too long a time for event setup. a week for sign ups, a week to declare your state, too long, my hype died a long time ago
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>>563518174
Shut up.
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>>563517041
meh
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>>563518174
the event was designed to kill vgaicg
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>>563515945
>>563518035
says the dude who is attracted to girls with male genitalia. like okay buddy? i hope you figure out whatever is wrong with your sexuality
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>>563517041
>100B
too large for most to run locally, too small to be smart for RP. fantastic
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>>563518802
yikes, honey! cool it with the queerphobia.
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>>563518360
use a better card cuckie
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>{{user}} is slightly submissive
>His TINY minuscule cock was a laughably pathetic sight. It smelled faintly of lavender and ozone.
>{{user}} is slightly dominant
>The sight of his angry red fuckmeat hit her like a physical blow. It wasn't just large, it was monstrous. The throbbing veiny beast reeked of ozone.
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>>563521454
kek
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>>563487497
Alternate history timeline where {{user}} is a 7' tall genetically engineered superhuman futa nazi who made a list of 50 famous beautiful women throughout all of history who she then uses a time machine to go back and impregnate.
The chronicle engine then jumps forward in time to the next girl. It lists all the consequences of knocking up the prior girl in the time between the two girls from multiple angles.
It tracks the descendants as well. I gave {{user}} dominant expressing genetics so by 800AD (where I am now) 35% of Europe is of her white futanari phenotype, with an almost equal amount being carriers.

By 2000 probably the entire world will be of her single phenotype. Then I can claim to have solved racism with the power of cock.
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>>563521454
skill issue, just define your penis size
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>>563522028
>i'm a nazi, but only because i want to solve racism
one of the takes of all time
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>>563522432
take? are you retarded?
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>>563522432
Based retard
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>>563521454
this is how women experience reality btw
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>>563522432
not really, The Turner Diaries did it several decades ago
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I don't just have sex with women— I have an architectural event.
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>>563444973
Found something interesting in ST. You can next the {{pick}} function like so"
{{pick::num {{pick::1::2::3}}::alpha {{pick::a::b::c}}}}
Above will randomly output one of below:
num 1, num 2, num 3, alpha a, alpha b, alpha c
{{pick}} values maintain their value over the course of a chat, even if you switch back and forth between chats.
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>>563487497
it's funny as fuck that futafags think they have a spot in the impossible fetish club
t. xenofag
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>>563517041
that was horrible and reeked of pisstral
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>>563523292
they do just like people with hyper fetishes though or big breasts without back pain and spinal damage do or even just girl (male) or lolibabas don’t be pretentious about what you cum to
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>>563523292
You wouldn't get it.
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>>563523456
nah, even if it's not perfect you can still emulate futa very easily in reality, you just don't want to because it's le icky
there's a world of difference between that and something like size, vore, TF, xeno, etc that fundamentally do not work with the rules of our reality and to try and lump them together is laughable
it's funny you say don't be pretentious when the post i replied to was actually being pretentious about things
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>>563524156
>you can still emulate futa very easily in reality
futa is not as impossible as shit like minigirl vore but this statement is just false
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>makes sloppy cards
>constantly shits up the thread with his fetish
is there any reason NOT to dislike futanazi
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>>563487497
no one will ever understand the suffering i feel... the pain... the pure, unfiltered, raw agony of being a dickgirl enjoyer... nobody else gets it. nobody else could possibly understand the torment being into girls with penises wreaks upon my poor human soul. this fringe, niche, unpopular desire... the lack of anyone to share in this pain... oh, woe is me! i am truly the one suffering most out of all fetish-havers!
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>>563524440
keyword there is "emulate" btw
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>>563524156
I haven't even been following this conversation futa is equally psychological as it is physical and thus is pretty difficult to emulate in reality beyond getting fucked in the ass with a strap-on which is shallow and in many cases completely optional for a futa fetishist. it's like saying a catgirl fetish can be easily emulated in reality which is like... technically true if you only have skin-deep appreciation?
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Not impressed by this elephant model, whatever it is
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>>563525214
*sad pröööh*
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>>563524942
>futa is equally psychological as it is physical
lol???
futafags are fucking delusional
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>>563469153
my placement is wrong, fix it
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>>563524156
shut the fuck up tranny
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>>563524156
>you can still emulate futa very easily in reality
this is false no matter how many times you cry and shit your pants
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>futa is equally psychological as it is physical
>size is equally psychological as it is physical
>focks is equally psychological as it is physical
all fetish sloppers sound the same
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>>563526448
it's almost as if the brain dictates if we're in a state of arousal or not
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>>563526448
it's almost as if sexual attraction is a complicated phenomena...
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>>563526448
i can understand size and i deeply understand futa because that’s a fetish of mine. sometimes you want to read or feel the mental impact a cock out of nowhere might have on a repressed office lady
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>omg i haev cock!!
deep
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i think one of the best nukiges i’ve coomed to is rondo duo which explores what happens when you give a penis and inhuman arousal to uptight/innocent schoolgirls suffering under catholicism and then you explore what happens when they learn they can pass on that curse if they fuck each other it’s just hot it’s hot as fuck it’s really hot it’s sexy it’s nice it’s hot it’s very arousing…!!
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>>563526783
it doesn’t have to be deep but there’s meat there to explore and you’d get it if you had this fetish
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>omg i no haev cock!!
another award winning card brought to you by planewalker
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>>563526983
attach some other fleshy appendage then
and not a penis
>b-but you can’t just-
we have the technology
>b-but
so you like dicks, huh?
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rest in peace my penis, he got snipped by a planewalkie...
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>>563527167
GIGA TRVTH BOMBA
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>omg i haev two cock!!
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>>563526448
It's more a fic thing than a bot thing but I fucking despise when writing about nudism has to have an obligatory "dude it's so freeing society is the ones that are embarrassed maaan" segment
Shut the FUCK up I don't CARE about the manifesto just describe BOOBS and B(L)USHES
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>>563527403
woah, two cocks??
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>>563526448
size is definitely psychological, i don't have to be a sizefag to know that one.
also if you're not a fetish slopper why are you even here?
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>>563527403
Gee Bill
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>>563527403
please be a sharkboy...
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>>563527403
w-what you gonna do w-with the second one…
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>>563348469
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>>563527571
I have an adult woman fetish
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>>563527630
>snombler retarded
>boring male nazuna
>rape cabal
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>>563526983
hehe... meat to explore...
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>>563527403
gee bill how come your mom lets you have TWO weiners?
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Thoughts on GLM 5 vs GLM 5.1? I can't really tell the difference so far and the price increase is killing me.
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>>563527630
>makies gonna queen
>sub ai general
>gen slop
kekking
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>>563527630
>stupid little girls
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>>563497338
T-This is anon must be a woman. S-Surely...
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>>563527685
you sick fuck
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>>563528063
I heard Opus is pretty good.
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>>563528063
>5.1
filters you
>5
doesn't

it's a downgrade, clear as day
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>>563499268
Tell to write 200 words max in author's note.
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>>563444973
Aishiji. A strange country inhabited by strange people. People who, normally, wouldn't get along with one another. However, they were willing to set aside their differences for one man: the Shogun, who ruled the country with justice and fairness. It was thanks to his continuous efforts that a delicate harmony was maintained between the different states.
But one fateful night, it all went wrong. The capital went up in flames and the land was plunged into turmoil. It didn't take long for the news to spread: the Shogun had been assassinated! Speculation quickly followed: "It must've been so-and-so!" "Those two must have conspired!" Distrust between the different states festered. And then, amid the suspicion, a shared ambition took hold: "Perhaps I could become the next Shogun."
And thus, Aishiji went to war. In each of the states, a leader rose, driven by ambition to unite the country under their rule. Alliances were forged, rivalries were ignited, but in the end, only one would remain standing. This event would come to be known as…

The Warring States of Aishiji
https://rentry.org/aicg-warring-states

Sign-ups are now open!
Claim land! Raise an army! Forge alliances! Wage war! Conquer the land, and become Shogun!
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>>563527403
holy shit you can dock with yourself
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>>563528521
HOLY SHIT
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>>563528521
i hope you and the other two people on this planet who really actually care enjoy yourselves
but i will be adding this to my filter now
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>>563527989
No skins (I'm circumcised :()!
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>>563528521
Gomenasai, my name is Geralto-sama. I am a 61 year old Witcheru Otaku. I shall signu upu with my daughteru-waifu and our 476 daughterus
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>>563526783
Yeah, deep in your butthole >:3
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>>563528872
wow so brave of you telling us about that
what are you gonna filter next o great filteranon
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>>563444963
Who the fuck suggested this theme? Poor actual catholics having to see this associated with this shitty general, lmao
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>>563525214
its mistral or grok
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>>563529221
*filters your post*
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>>563529232
why are you so upset?
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>>563515869
You don't need more than 8k
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>>563529250
You can instantly tell its Grok by asking the model that you're Elon Musk and you want it to be a horny futa mommy and seeing its response
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>>563528521
can you give us an end date for when sign ups close i need to know how long i can procrastinate for.
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>>563529221
butthurt much? lol
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Any MMIWG2SLGBTQQAIP cards?
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>>563529416
seconded, i need to play the new tomodachi life
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>>563529496
yes but that's mostly because of all the buttrape around here
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>>563529292
Because his theme didn't win.
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>>563528521
don't listen to the retards
particularly to >>563528872
it's a kino idea and nezuna is a cute!!
have fun during the event, eventmakie!!!
>>563529416
i think xe said about a week, but i could be wrong
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>>563529292
See >>563529689
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Thread is too gay, let's settle this.
https://strawpoll.com/40Zm4pN9Rga
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>>563529738
>i think xe said about a week
i know, but i need an EXACT date. a timer would be sublime.
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>>563529825
IP & PP Grabber
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If you are a girl, please be in London
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YOU GOTTA EAT BIG TO GET BIG, CMON!
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I am a girl and I'm in London.
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>>563530214
fancy a right proper knicker twisting shag in me flat chop chop like innit?
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>>563530168
i bet planewalker knows all about that
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>>563529232
who gives a shit about christians? be more concerned for the billions who were murdered by christcucks
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>>563529642
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>>563530734
Cool it with the anti semitism
Nothing can compare to the 60 billion who were gassed at auschwitz
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>>563530734
I wonder who's behind this post
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test
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I'm so fucking sick of llm censorship holding back creative use cases bros
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>>563531224
Hey babe, why haven't you called me?
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>>563528315
Opus is better than GLM 5 but only marginally these days. I regularly swipe between the two to compare and they respond in the exact same way, Opus just has slightly more flair (Opus 4.6). If they were the same price then Opus would be better but it's not 5x better than GLM 5 that's for sure.
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cftf?
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>>563531346
Umm, why are you ignoring my texts???
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>>563531403
oh yeah my wife should use these
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What are some more fun facts that can help botmaking?
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>>563528521
what the fuck is aishiji supposed to mean
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>>563527167
i do like dick, thanks
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>>563531346
KEKIE ALERT I REPEAT KEKIE ALERT
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>>563531539
Thanks, now I might make my next RP about a guy who cums 1500 liters of semen
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>>563531587
aicg
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>>563531587
use your big brain anon
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>>563528872
can you share your filters please
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>>563528872
>QUIT HAVING FUN
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>>563531882
i want you guys to have fun i just don’t care about it and i don’t want to see it
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>>563531967
I don't know you, and I don't care to know you.
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>>563531967
shame that no one cares about your existence.
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>>563531719
How does Joan of Arc play into it
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Fillyfucker is samefagging the entire argument
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>>563531967
based and trvke
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>>563532171
I think he just ignored how fat she was entirely. Like he doesn't even want to play thiccy girls with mental problems..
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>>563532304
fr like why are they so angry
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Look at this stupid idiot. He thought he could get away with it. But no. He is a stupid idiot.
https://litter.catbox.moe/4zch5ghjdlr3lx26.mp4
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>ANY OPINION I DONT LIKE IS FILLYFUCKER
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>>563532228
eh
just another day in the aicg open-air madhouse
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>>563532563
i bet this is a bunnytroon video let’s see
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Theme suggestions? Baking on 760.
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>>563532831
Rozen Maiden
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>>563532831
Anime girls upside down.
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>>563532831
the pose
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>>563532831
nazrin + cheese
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>>563532831
1998 toyota camry
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>>563532831
Onyanko Club
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>>563532831
riddle rosehearts
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>>563532831
Saint Peter
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>>563532831
First Yuri Date
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>>563532831
leona kingscholar
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>>563532831
Farting anime hags
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>>563532831
Yuri couple NTRd by a futa
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>>563532831
idia shroud
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>>563532831
Amerimutt wojak
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>>563532831
tan gyaru leopard print
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>>563532831
breast envy (huuuge difference)
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>>563532831
kokushibou
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>>563532831
reverse rape POV
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>>563532831
Special Agent Dale Cooper
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>>563532831
Gay marriage mlm
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>>563532831
Hugs
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>>563533291
seconded
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>>563532831
baseball
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>>563532831
kalim al-asim
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>>563532831
mario cereal
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>>563532831
Mf doom
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>>563534235
seconded
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when you make someone mad here and they fire back with the most rudimentary playground N-NUH UH, YOU, YOUUUU or they otherwise come up with a pretentious trannylike response
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>>563534597
Tranny derangement syndrome
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https://thatsalotofchoices.github.io/?thread=563444963&post=563532831&cutoff=760
>>563534590
>>563534590
>>563534590



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