PRETTY editionGGST 2.0 and Jam starter guidehttps://youtu.be/mLGruVR6VkM https://youtu.be/MIJwA7Pu9Ns >UPCOMING2.0 bracket set for april 18th 5pm estglobal tournamentdouble elimination ft3register HEREhttps://challonge.com/tournaments/signup/VW257aRG8F#/signup/f28yvue9lfGGST 2.0 and Jam are live!Blazing battle pass: MayRobo=Ky: Summer>RESOURCESMain wiki with frame data and information about system mechanics: https://www.dustloop.comFighting game glossary: https://glossary.infil.net/Deflect Shield OS tech: https://youtu.be/zmQeJLe_w9U >Replay Uploadershttps://replaytheater.app/?game=xrdhttps://replaytheater.app/?game=acprhttps://replaytheater.app/?game=strive>Xrd/+R/#R/ML Resourceshttps://www.reddit.com/r/Guiltygear/wiki/learngg/https://github.com/YouKnow232/ggxxacpr_overlay/releaseshttps://www.dustloop.com/w/GGXRD-R2/Resourceshttps://github.com/WistfulHopes/ggml_public/releases>Current GGST Patch 2.0 (April 9th)https://www.guiltygear.com/ggst/en/news/post-2851/>Guilty Gear Soundtrackshttps://mega.nz/folder/VRxC2JqT#E0Jfw9f_yEwIV6yFgXnDZw/>/ggg/ APPROVED Strive modsPotato Mod Lite: https://gamebanana.com/mods/299494/Potato Low Spec: https://gamebanana.com/mods/296927/Frame Data Display/Replay Takeover 1.49+: https://github.com/WistfulHopes/UE4SSMods/releases/tag/replay-0.2.4State region when making lobbies for the thread and announce in the thread when you close them. You ft10 anyone you make the lobby. Keep training and keep on rockin'!SLASHED: >>563356053
I think my issue with Jam's high low is that she can innitiate from her shallow hop, which by reflex will instinctively made me block high, but then she just chose "rmao here low" option that shit feels incerdibly fast.It's all on me but god damn man if that shit doesn't feel like to my fossil reflexes.Glad Jambros finally got their girl though, they've been in the waiting room for, what, 5 years?
lobby closed! Ggs everyone thanks for stopping by
As a GBVSR player this move is giving me Beatrix PTSD
>>563458784thanks for hostan
>>563458784GGs everyone. Haven't been in a /ggg/ lobby in years. Hope my EU connection wasn't too bad.
>>563458870I throw those
ggs lobbyI should watch more high level lucy playfrom what I understand a lot of the very important routes got changedthat besides I'm terrible about hoarding my meter because I can't think of a way to extend combos other than throwing out quickhacks which I can only do from so many things, and occasionally the psychic reversal superAnd then there's the problem of me not remembering to FD and also not remembering that RC exists
>>563458784ggs bwosim gonna have a fuckin aneurysm playing neutral on jam vs someone with a projectile
>>563458784Thanks for hostingGGs everyone Landing Jam’s parry is such a satisfying feeling
>>563458784ggs all, so many changes to get used to
>>563458784GGs, didn't play much, prefered to spectate instead since I'm nowhere clsoe you guys level, but had a lots of fun regardless.Hope well' host those more often.I need to gather some Smellphelt pictures
I will be honest bros.. I VASTLY prefer Dizzy's redesign in Strive and it makes me diamonds more so than her XX and Xrd designs..
Getting into Strive because SF6 is still dogshit after 3 years. Who’s the most fun waifu between I-No, ABA, Jack-O, Gio, Baiken and May
https://poal.me/4b2gk8For curiosity sake.
>>563459772What would you consider fun? Rushdown? Set play? High/Low mix-ups?
>>563459772All of these have vastly different playstyle, what do you gravirate toward the most anon?Keep in mind that in GG, picking with your dick is not only a valide strategy but an actively encouraged one.
>>563459772all the female characters are dogshit in strive
>>563458951same, was good to see a few familiar faces
https://x.com/InsertName444/status/2043472902671011981is may a vortex character now? haven't played in a few years
>>563460079>>563460192I’ve played a lot of big body/bully type characters in the past. Think I gravitate to large buttons and frame advantage but interesting gimmicks intrigue me too, like I enjoyed Gargos in KI and Hakan in SF4
Not bad boys, not bad
how much labbing is needed for slayer? is he good? sf6 bison main btw
>>563460204Whether they are good or not doesn't matter, if you like a character enough you play them. Simple as.>>563459772Personally I enjoy Jack-O the most out of those.
>>563460593>Big bodyNone of the character you listen have those>Large button and frame davantageIno, ABA, Jack-o (highly technical compared to the rest of the roster) Gio, May>Gargos in KI and Hikikan in SF4I know nothing about those, sorry.
>>563460593You'll either like May or ABA then
>>563460593made for nagomay will do if you simply must goon
me bad
>>563460794The issue is I’m also a contrarian and will never use top tier/popular
Not bad boys, not bad, let's hope Arcsys keep it up in that direction.
need a weak and helpless ekitten to coach into vanq
Slutlovers can you give me a rough idea of my the gameplan I should aim for when playing Elphelt?
>>563460901goldlewis is a big body whose whole game play is bullying an opponent's block with endless plus frames by swinging massive screenwide disjoints AND has the lowest pickrate in the game
whenever I come back to GG there's always this period where I feel like nothing about my characters works and then I start throwing out a bunch of 2Ks and 5Ks in neutral and pressure and everything clicks againfor an anime game it's kinda strange how special-based pressure kinda sucks for most of the cast
To whomever voted "it got worse", can you explain why you think so?
trying to learn elphelt but I can't stop gooning what do I do
Do newish players show up to lobbiesI won't be playing today but I'd like to try hosting a lobby tomorrow while I'm still struggling to get used to the controls and gatling
>>563462059cum then try to play its that simple
>>563462059What do you mean? you're doing it right bro, Elphelt WANT you to goon to her
>>563461118Damn the polar opposite of a gooner pick. On the one hand I love GG women. But on the other that’s a whole new level of contrarianism
>>563462115at least two players were new in the lobby earlier. me being one of them.
Jam is just better slayer and you can't change my mind.
>>563460529>vortex characteraw hell nah unc is stinkin up the general lmaoooo
So is the average hc still cancer to play against or did the nerfs make it easier to play against Just watched some gameplay and it still looks pretty bad
Do you think they will add Jam'e old costume to the game.
9PM on a sunday yet 5 minutes for a match?
got to ignis rank. why is the icon for it so ugly?
>>563462115I don't know if I count as "newish" but I haven't played for like 5 years before the patch hit.Needless to say, I got fucking destroyed, but regardless of that, provided you can take a loss, just go for it.If there's someone you don't understand, never be afrad ti to ask, people joining the lobby are always willing to help.
>>563462526Every Chaos I've fought against so far has been clearly struggling to adjust to the changes. These were in Vanquisher, but at low DR, so maybe the high DR ones are adapting better.
>>563462531Jam's*
>>563462384>>563462898Cool, thanks.
>>563463165I want to stress this out: be prepared to get fucking destroyed, people in fighitng game, lobby or not, do not hold back.It's a very frustrating exeperience, but at the same time ,extremely rewarding, when you finally feel the answer to something, there's an incredible amount of blood that'll flow right into your dick.
what the fucking nago did they do to niggeryuki
>>563463440made him more betterer
>>563460857hee hee
>>563461971Anon doesn't have the balls ot explain himself, shame him
>>563462115there's an assphat that has fg exp but just picked up the game you'd be a good match
floor 7 feels really fucky because of being unable to rank down, you see everyone of all types
this nigga's playing in the tower in the big 26
would you rather automatically piss when you cum or automatically fart when you cum
>>563464459GUILTY GEAR......STRIVE!
What's the best character in strive if I like order sol in ACR?
>>563464652I play Order Sol in +R and Asuka in Strive and they're two of my favorite characters in fighting games in general. They're not really alike, but I feel like if you like +R in general then you might be more drawn to one of the one-star characters because I think they just feel like they have a lot to learn. Chipp is also worth considering because he has a fast run speed and gets in your face with suffocating pressure like HOS does. In +R something that makes those two feel different is that even though HOS is fast, he's also very heavy, whereas Chipp is very light. In Strive everyone feels kind of heavy and though I'd say Chipp is still light relatively speaking, that his air mobility and weight feels different from his +R and Xrd iterations makes him a bit closer to HOS as a side effect.
>>563457561STOP PUTTING THE FUCKING EDITION IN THE SUBJECT LINE
>>563464459why would you ever choose the first option
>>563464967Thanks anon. I think I'll give chipp a try but it was the zip line that kinda made me not wanna try him it looks pretty hard to use, my brain barely handles charge cancels
>>563465131The piss washes the cum off
Dang I missed the lobby. Good to see /ggg/ back
Imma flip
>>563459810Healed.
>>563464459would you rather lose DR because Nago mixed you up for 30 seconds or because you got Supered on Wakeup
>>563464459id find a girl who's into being pissed on
the soiver pigdogs that inhabit this general will never understand this, but it's so weird how venom's 2S is slower than his f.S in soive, i'll never get used to it
>>563458784why would you post this
>>563466701love fat hoes man idk what you want from me
I dont know how to make adhd addled retards stop pressing buttons im too busy gooning to horse cock for this
>>563467273are you black or hispanic?
>>563467686I am white and play faust
Finding out midmatch that I'm just not in the mood is the worst feeling ever
>>563456842
>>563468051ahaha fuck I didnt look at the image in full
Strive matches last so much longer now that I heard the entirety of Ups and Downs in a match.
>do a IAD J.Hs>get anti-air by c.sAight my fault
>>563468272You must be mistaken, the patch removed anti-air c.S
>>563468428coincidentally, Jam is practically immune to those system changes
>>563468636nigga she is practically crouching your j.H must suck major dick or you mistimed it
what's the input for burst? I tried to hit K and D and got deflect shield
>>563467273that's not fat that's an inhuman formless blob you're the reason I can't say I like fat chicks
>>563468919D and H works
>>563469162ew that's annoying for me. well thanks
>>563457561whats the counterplay to mist finer?
>>563469089You're the type of fatfag to say that this is fat
https://x.com/ganemeot/status/2043225488186053107You can OS throw PRC if you input it with taunt :)
>>563468825not that anon, and he probably tradedI'm just saying every other character got their cS hitbox reduced to even accommodate IAD jump-ins except Jam
>>563469278yes and it's beautiful
>>563469278is every single character in nikke either a slampig or a braphog?
>>563469826they dont even have skin brother its fake fat for fake people
>>563469826no but the best are
Havn't played in quite a while (around when Elphelt was added), 2.0 looks pretty good. How did Sin and Nago come out since then?Also Unika looks cool.
Fatfags are fucking cowards only lusting after fatties with perfectly normal faces when in reality they should have fucking triple chins and distorted ugly blob heads with that amount of body fatThat's why I don't respect you, if you're going to have a shit tier fetish you may as well go all the way in
>>563464459You can't piss and cum at the same time, they're two different tubes. Your dick would explode from the pressure
>>563468272>>563468428>>563468636>>563469526Meanwhile, I saw Millia C.s on Twitter being ass as anti-air despite its animation. https://x.com/fgcblue/status/2042188881529823440
who is the "ryu" of strive
this addition of specials is just a slow rollout, right?
>>563469526oh my godher poor cockit was circumsized beyond repair
>>563470736Ky
>>563470819any others didnt he fuck an underage girl in the lore or something
>>5634708813 years isnt *that* young for a gear
>>563470881Sol
>>563471097ok ty
Never forget what they took from us
Wow, Counter blitz actually was useful in a match for me here. It was the most optimal thing that could be done here. Maybe this new mechanic kinda bussin frfr
check your cS', fagsI fully expect them to homogenize these to some hitbox:hurtbox ratio or height limit next time
>>563471195some of these concept art pieces make me think that guilty gear designs are only good by accident what the fuck is this
So is there any reason NOT to main jam this patch if I like unga bunga?
>>563470646You can do it but its complicated and you can end up in the hospital.
who has the most technical combo labbing in strive?
>fucking despise elphelt>finally lab her offense>want to main hergod damnit
>>563471749nigga idk fucking Jack-O? what are you chatgpt
>>563471749jacko or asuka or zato
i hope queen dizzy gets buffs
>>563471270>you can counterblitz off a jump inoh snap thats kinda nice
>>563471416
>>563472312I love these
>>563471356lol? lmao, even?
Does this game have a frame meter mod like GBVSR?
Nyooo....
>>563471356>>563473512>>563473780Collision boxes are all the same height, right? Looks like they are already normalized.
Unironically nerf burst
Unironically buff burst
>>563474389They already did tho
>>563474389since everyone has become seasoned enough, they really should "roll back" some of their retardationBurst back to normal hitbox, everyone getting faster AD, IB back to 8f would be properly game changing
MAYBE ADD DRIVE IMPACT TO STRIVE
>>563474389Could maybe do with a reduction in burst gain given lower damage means longer rounds means you get it just a bit too often now, esp. when coupled with not burning it all on wild assault.>>563475273The amount of burstsafe routing disparity in the game would be truly absurd still.
if you put on a lordknight video and listened to it while tabbed you would think he was a white guy
>block Dizzy's ice pillar>she just does it again>clips my extended hurtbox because I tried to do something after blocking itHow do I deal with this fucking move as Jack-O
nobody's going to be able to find the thread if you put your flavor text in the subject line you dipshit
>>563477675if you search for ggg or guilty it shows up though?
>>563477675retard god
>>563477675>ctrl+f ggg >doesn't get highlighted because the catalog obviously doesn't show names>you can justdon't care
I keep a couple generals open on my second monitor while I queue so I can fidget with something while I waitnot seeing /ggg/ makes it kind've annoying to navigate to here
i'm glad the japs seem to like jam still
>Dude d/c during my super animationhappy :)
2.0 bracket set for april 18th 5pm estglobal tournamentdouble elimination ft3register HEREhttps://challonge.com/tournaments/signup/VW257aRG8F#/signup/f28yvue9lfthis is YOUR sign to stretch your back and fix your postureand to sign up
Any Goldlewis bros or people who just aren’t as stupid as me have advice on hitting 486 on leverless? No idea why, every other BT comes out easily but I cannot get this one to pop even once
>>563479980The trick is you need to hit one diagonal and then the rest can be left up right so do a quartercircle and then cheat the rest of the input
Tokon waiting room.
Honest nooch
jam is the most braindead nigger character in the game's history, easiest auto block of my life
GEIKIRINGEKIRINGEKIRINHYAPPOSHINWATAAAAAA
>>563471195what?random daisuke oc donut steel sketches?
>>563471195They could still be possible. Valentines are clones after all.
did they change the deflect input cause 214 was too complicated?
Are ragequits just particularly common at shit-elo or am I that lucky? 4th one tonight.
>>563481430it overlapped with some other buttons
>>563481483This is what happens when you make people think online points and 'ranked' wins matter.
>>563481483>jamniggerdidn't earn it
>>563481483I havent had a single ragequit in 4 daysyou might just have shit connection
>>563481746Never had any connection issues and I play on wire, so I doubt it.
>>563481430They changed it because it should always have been two buttons. The motion lost me so many games, and made me not use the shield as often as I should have, but now I have to unlearn 20+ years of muscle memory, since I used to burst with D+K.
>>563459591Me, too.
I use PSDKHso I'm never going to use deflect shield now. But I guess that's at least better than the guys who got fucked over with Burst. I feel bad for you.
changed my binds and now i can't do anything and i feel retarded and i want to uninstall
>>563471416>White GioGross...
>>563460903Make a new poll.
>Giovanna>character with multifaceted anti-air options that all offer different rewards for hitting them, anti air 5P being among one of the most rewarding for its difficulty>>devs nerf every anti air option across the board aside from boring ass DPWHYYYYYY
is it just an all fighting games thing where high level involves spamming incredibly obnoxious movement at all times
>>563482452they butcher this bitch every single patch its nothing new
>>563482460If you design a fighting game around blocking being tantamount to putting yourself in a losing position, the only counters become hitting first (low level mashfests) and forcing whiffs (high level schmovement)
>>563482404nigga what are thooooose
>>563481430It was easy to get deflect shield accidentally when trying to back throw.>>563481483How shit? I've had maybe 1 rage quit ever chilling in the platinum ranks.
>>563482452The curse of playing a basic bitch character made for new players.
>>563482460Any movement options that are worth using (read: are good) and going to annoying (hard) to deal with if you're fighting against them. If this wasn't the case they wouldn't be good and wouldn't be used.
>>563482452
>>563482710Silba. Got the game a couple days ago.
every game should have dash macro
>>563482903Oh are you supposed to map dash to a button and not use double direction
>land weapons free>haven't practiced the routing>they fall to the ground and kill melol
>>563482979Tap tap will be obsoleted by a dedicated button in our lifetime, and that is good.
you should have to physically run in place to dash in game
>>563483110finally trve skill will be rewarded
>>563482452I miss the days of old where tapping the opponent lead to a full wallbreak
>>563483152It's crazy how buff she used to be, yet people still couldn't perform with her.
everyone agrees 22X inputs suck ass, why is it so controversial to retarded fgc boomers that 66 for dash sucks?blaming stuff on the dash macro like >>563482903 is giga retarded too
>>563483152
haven't played since '23how the fuck do you play may now, exactly since she can cancel dolphins apparently
>>563482979>>563483080>>563483296It's not enough to have the dash macro, I want to ability to disable 44/66. I get backdash unintentionally somewhat frequently using pad when switching between low/high block in quick succession and other situations when jumping and trying to return to blocking quickly.
>>56348329622X is one of the easiest inputs ever, are you trolling nigger? Also no one really had a problem with 66 itself, it's only becomes a problem when you need to perform tech like IADs or some backstep shenanigans in certain games.
>>563483481to be fair to the gio player here LK fucked up like 4 seperate times which is 2 more than a character like Sol would allow
>>563483575We call him LordJobber for a reason
>>563483296button count jealousy
>>563483481brother, PRESS 5P ONCE
They need to bring back Valentine and make her minions into her moves.
>>563483460Someone bought up BB and all the fake execution, execution for the sake of execution, and tech for the sake of tech last thread. It is the year 2026. We are so far past that retarded point now.
>>563483635
>>563483292TY was pretty dominant with her at the time. Even now, he's still the highest-ranked Gio on the leaderboard, so I'm curious to see what he'll do.
>>563483720I think we need games that have execution for the sake of execution. My only issue with every game being simplified to hell and back is that simple games are the only option for modern fighting games more or less. in order to have a crumb of execution you either need to grab the designated difficult character in a simple game or genre shift entirely to Tek-- oh they simplified their game also
>>563483876Modern games aren't even that simplified, more like streamlined. No one thinks it's a loss that we don't have to worry about tripguard anymore, or that reversals simply work if you perform the input during the designated window, rather than being forced to piano all the buttons, while praying that it'll actually come out as a reversal.
>>563484092there are some games people are playing right now where every fucking character has a one button DP and youre gonna tell me its just "streamlining"
>>563482661So don't make blocking so bad lol
>>563483296all the oldfags really must've left for anyone to still ask thatdash macro being available in the first beta lead to mass complaints from all the controller-playing PS newfags that didn't know about 6P, that (I)ADs and jump-ins were too strong/unreactabledevs add delay to all ADs, buff 6P to essentially high crush, add penalties to all air actions on topeveryone suffers getting raped by long normals, zoners, characters with ground cross privileges, "optimally" IADing into blockstun for 5 yearsdevs finally realize their retardation in crippling the air lane to ultimately making concessions on AAs (like cS) for jump-ins to actually work now
>>563484239Yes, I am. The dummy wants to wake up with his reversal, so he presses the reversal button. I'm 100% certain that the next iteration of fighting games will have a universal one button reversal option that's an entirely new move, so DP gets to stay as a motion. Makes balancing things so much easier.
>>563483292She just too intimidating, i'm sorry...
>>563484457She doesn't bite. Usually.
Alright, I like what I see in Giovanna's moveset at first glance. How do I actually play her? Gimmie a BnB to chew on.
Something along the lines of Granblue is the best.Sorry, your zero input buffering reverse pentagram motion will become a relic of the past. And that's a good thing.
This is impossible what the fuck? The jump attack doesn't even connect 90% of the time and forget about jump cancelling that too
>>563484298Aggressive games look better in tournamentsIf you make blocking good people tend to turtle and slow the pace
>>563484889https://youtu.be/Tpasrb0SHngseason 4 combos still work, she didnt get anything super new aside from DP being better and 2S being a jumpscare button
>>563484946Nevermind I thought it was one whole thing, you do them separately
>>563485047That's another thing. Why isn't her DP kick....a real DP? Like, really? A reversal is too much for her?
>>563484962Blocking is by far the strongest option in fighting games.
>>563485194they have to compromise somewhere anon
>>563484919That one motion will never become a relic. It's too sacred.
>>563485272*laughs in SF6* Don't ever make blocking that bad
Who's the tuffest strive character?
Why's everyone picking Gio, all of a sudden I thought I was a special snowflake
>>563485486In what sense? And if you mean difficult to play/use then in that sense what do you consider the composite parts of difficulty?
>>563485519There are a lot of tierwhores out there and Gio is looking like she's gonna be a big contender this season. It also helps that comboing people is fun and Gio got to keep pretty much all her combos
>>563485619Highest damage buttons.
>>563485769gotta be Slayer right?
>>563485769Pot, Goldlewis and Nago all hit hard, so do Sol, May and Slayer.
>>563485932>>563485939Nago and Slayer it is.
>>563485328Is there any reason to use this as an anti air when 6p exists?
>>563486046its damn near one of the biggest anti airs in the game yea theres plenty of reasons
>>563486046>move hits so far up it could poke god in the ass, and lasts forever.>durr, why not like just mash 6P hurr?
slayer is ass nowwho should i play instead
>>563485328They really don't. Xrd would have made it a reversal.
>>563487314Xrd was bought by tens of thousands, strive's sold in the millions.
Ram's nonsword specials just seem useless now that she isnt getting crazy corner carry into wallbreaks
I may be bronzeBut Jam is so fucking annoyingHurr Duurr walk back full screen low surprise overhead lmao
>>563488597Can you anti air her if she goes for overhead instead of the low special blockstring ender? So annoying.
>boot up Strive at 9am with the game having less than 5k players on Steam >can find matches under 30 seconds again Lol this spaghetti string net code man...
Xrd Jam voice mod when? I want to make my friends' ears bleed?
>>563490447It's ancient japanese magic.
>>563490447I imagine it goes through the list of everyone who is playing at the moment and checks your connection with each of them before starting to whittle it down to the players that fit your criteria, hence it takes much longer when there are a lot of players. I have nothing to base this on, but I am certain this is the case.
Kill Jam. Behead Jam. Roundhouse kick Jam into the concrete. Slam dunk Jam into the trashcan. Crucify Jam. Defecate in chinese food. Launch Jam into the Purple Sun. Stir fry Jam in a wok. Toss Jam towards happy chaos. Urinate on Jam's fuckass rabbit. Judo throw Jam into a wood chipper. Twist Jam heads off. Sue Jam for tax evasion. Karate chop Jam in half. Curb stomp Jam and her rabbit. Trap Jam in quicksand. Sniper J*m with unika's fuckass long range cannon. Liquefy Jam in a vat of acid. EAT Jam. Dissect Jam with nago. Exterminate Jam with a pot buster. Stomp Jam skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate Jam in the oven. Lobotomize Jam even though she is already retarded. Mandatory impregnation and abortions for Jam. Grind Jam's bunny in the garbage disposal. Drown Jam in fried chicken grease. Vaporize Jam with a dragon install. Kick Jam down the stairs. Feed Jam to Faust. Slice Jam with leo.how to beat this bitch?
Was he right?
>>563491930having to balance a game around unpredictable and inconsistently poor netcode seems like a nightmaredelay was so fucking awful. it's hard to believe any advocate for delay based netcode actually played on it. I still get blood pressure spikes thinking about random slideshows fucking up my inputs
>>563492175There was a sadomasochistic charm to it, though, but I'm never going back.
>>563486176>>563486296Just had a session where I focused a lot of mental stack onto anti-airing with this. Granted I'm only bronze but it seems too slow for a lot of situations which is a bummer. Also people are just hopping all over the place in all 8 directions so it seems like you instinctively do it you will eat shit a lot of the time.Can any Gio players let me know you have time to anti-air (in general not just with this) if opponent jumps on your wakeup? What about if they jump cancel one of their normals to do an air move?
>>563485272nah nigga if you blockin you in the setplay mix
i remember coming from smash and playing strive for the first time i thought it was weird how no one had initial dashes before starting the run. there's step dashes and dashes, but none of the two together.
>>563491930The idea that they intentionally designed the games for shitty delay caused by arcade hardware is laughable. They were designed in 0-delay environment with souped-up development PCs, any delay caused by shitty hardware was something they never gave a single shit about.
>Wait 5 minutes for a match>its a laggy elphelt >entire match feels like shitwhat do?
>>563492667I just did the tutorial and Sol Badguy has oneAlso it is my humble newbie opinion dashes are too fast
>>563492667But there are...
>arcsys confirmed the matchmaking is fuckedlmao
>>563494781source?
2.0 is ass, dude. It just goes to show that merely ripping out wa isn't enough. The whole game needs to go in the trash. They really tricked my ass into reinstalling for this?
>first thing the new blogpost mentions is steady aim portalslol
Can we all agree that Robo May deserved a slot more than a second Robo Ky?
>>563496435They want Happy Chaos dead like how Granblue killed Nier. They didn't want him to be cancer in a new fun way.
>>563495281https://x.com/GUILTYGEAR_PR/status/2043629254932644210
>>563472312please tell me we get the first one as a skin
I love women's bodies, shame about what's on the inside though
>>563492548some of the most setplay mix heavy games have insanely good defensive mechanics
>>563496716spoken like a true incel chuddie
>>563483720this bnb is an outlier even in blazblue
>>563496836Just because the game gives you ways to deal with the mix doesn't mean you want to be dealing with the mix
>>563497101i genuinely think if you seethe about mix in fighting games you might have low iq
>>563497232I seethe about it allmix, reversals, setplay, plus frames, disjoints, low crush, high crush, f.shiki, stagger offenseit's all dishonest. always
>>563496621>like how Granblue killed NierNier is still fairly strong mid-tier though, they definitely didn't kill her.
>At the same time, we believe it is also important to observe not only the initial reactions, but also how the environment and strategies continue to develop over time.In other words, check in after 6 months when people have mastered using the HC infinite and ruined several tournaments, we will consider removing it then.
>>563497523She’s universally agreed to be bottom 5, especially after Vikala got buffed. She is NOTABLY worse than almost everyone else
>>563496716I love women on the outside AND the inside :)
if they don't fix ranked this week im dropping soive again until robo ky
https://www.guiltygear.com/ggst/en/news/post-2928/Fret not, they'll patch out the HC infinite scam
>>563498043Ram's S4 sword toss got "hotfixed" in less than 3 weeks. I feel that's more about the nerfs like Testament and Slayer
I'd be very surprised if Jam doesn't end up being at least high tier
>>563488072That's the Gio difference.
>>563498695Cool.
>>563498043I remember them patching out Ky's DI infinite a while ago fairly quickly to be fair.
>>563499396Ky being good is a DEFCOM 1 situationHC being broken is just another tuesdaySuch is the life of the Z tier
>>563491930Nothing on this Earth is more powerful than the delay-BASED GAWD
Will we ever see her again?
>>563499991penmi parker marvel tokon
>>563497518Based divekick enjoyer
>>563500082Unironically technically true.
I'll be honest in saying I was dooming over the H kabari follow up not causing a hkd initially but having played with Baiken now I don't mind the change. Ending a combo with a grounded tatami allows for tatami oki still. Parry is fucking useless now. I hope they increase the damage next balance patch. I'm fine with the added recovery and pushback. I just want a parry to be rewarding.
>>563499991Literally only Koreans want her back. Maybe if barafag Katano stays as the director for GG5
>>563500824I'd personally prefer more active frames than damage as a buff to parry. It's so fucking annoying when you react or make a read correctly to something that is slow and reactable, only to eat a big fat counter-hit because you were few frames too early. Also removing the random exceptions of shit that isn't projectiles but it can't parry for some reason.
man dnf duel looks so much better than strive, we need a soive remastereverything is way too glossy
strive has the best moment to moment animation, animations for normals and specials is consistently fantastic. you can compare faust's moveset in both games as an example to see how much they improved. granblue has better flavor stuff like intros/outros along with WAY better supers. dnf duel looked boring idk didn't play it. xrd had the best stages though strive's are pretty good now
>>563502065isn't that game backed by gacha money though
>>563502060I'd accept more active frames too honestly. If they ever add a new move to Baiken my idea would be that they have a new parry that only absorbs projectiles. She stores it and she's able to fire it out as ki
>>563502391What about DBFZ?
>>563502391I genuinely think Strive has the best stages in the genre right now. They're all so immensely beautiful and the fact that each stage has multiple areas that all look different is insane to me. I wish you could select an area of a stage before a match as some areas you hardly see.
>>563503148I thought most of strive's base game ones were fairly plain aside from a happy family and mayship but the dlc ones have been really good. the last four have all been amazing, I'd love to see another old stage redone like heaven's edge was
It's a shame that the Chinese one is gonna be the last Strive stage. We could've used a Halloween stage
I'm bringing this shit back from 2 years ago because it's hilarious that Testament lost 3 of the boxes when they already had the least amount of these checked back in s3. No more low profile, plus frames, plus 5d and hkd bnb.
Has anybody tested this replay takeover mod? Labbing is bitchhttps://github.com/WistfulHopes/UE4SSMods/releases/tag/replay-0.2.5
>>563499991Literally the worst character in all of Arcsys' history, which is kind of impressive, considering answer exists.
>>563503148I've also always really liked Strive's stages, it surprises me whenever I see people speak poorly of them. Even Council of Three, as overused and tired as it is now, is a pretty cool stage.>>563505730Answer is a very cool and fun character with great animations.
>>563498319agree upon by nier-fags who speedrun to masters and have been stuck at 0 crystals ever since because they refuse to actually learn the game.
>>563499954I miss their mentally ill rantings.
>>563503148Ky's castle stage has like 7 different locations, so this would be neat.
>>563485328The horizontal hitbox is so ass
>>563504982No one gets to have 3 or 4 frame buttons anymore, so you need to update it a bit.
YOU CAN BLOCK IN THE AIR??
the council of three bridge is stunning and I'm tired of pretending it's not
>>563490629i miss u oatmeal cookie ;_;
>>563505501There's newer version for 2.0
I don't understand the combo systemWhy does 6P for Gio link here when it's 12 frame startup, but if you try to do a regular jab (5frame startup) it doesn'tDo command normals have some sort of property that enables this
>wait until the game is dead to release the best character
>>563506724Command normals can be cancelled into rather than linked, similar to special cancelling moves.
>>563507237That makes sense, thanks
>>563506724>>563507323This is what too much shit fighter does to the human brain.
>>563506297Did you skip mission mode?
>>563486351but he still looks sick as fuckin the context of jive
>>563499954did he win his first sfv game?
>>563509051wtf is this, the life cycle of a fighting gamer?
>>563509051kinda accurate in my case
>>563510679I remember him getting brutalized for a couple of weeks before quitting videogames again.
>>563511157I suffered too many hours trying to make Noel work in that game for some retard to say the game has no low tiers
>>563510795It shows your future.
>>563510434That misinputted 6H turned whiffed 6K reminds me that I should learn a whiff 6K pb loop for style points
>>563511157jesus christ
>>563511483芹鴨さん…
>>563510795It's showing how people move between different games.
>>563511483Ah, yes, the days when every new anime fighter was gonna kill strive, and bring "the community" together.
>>563511483The funniest part of the tweet is that dnf's gameplay wasn't even revealed yet
>>563499991>>563505730God Xrd sucked
So what change are they making to HC? Slowing down his reload again?
>>563504982It'd be interesting to do a S4->S5 green/yellow/red layout for characters based on what they gained / kept / lost with this.
>>563514363has anyone seen any chaos players send seething tweets about their hopes being dashed against the rocks, if so please share them with me by replying to this post. I have been enjoying HC frauds sending salty tweets and I want to see more of them
I'm gonna make a mod so that jam's kicks are easier to discern. so I can tell the high/low apart easier :)
>>563486351May is just a flat out better version of slayer this patch
>>563514373>>563504982Give the thread the unaltered one, and we'll see if anyone decides to have some fun. I wanna see what Leo and Ky look like through the seasons.
>>563515349that's cheating?
>>563515638so is picking jam whats your point
>>563514363Same shit as they did to Ky when they accidentally gave him the ability to jail people with charged stun edge: special blockstun/hitstun limits.
Lil tim really struggling against a 21 frame low that needs an install to be + and leads to nothing on hit
Ky foot job
>>563460903Why isn't "Is currently the best game ever made and has been for the last 5 years" an option? Isn't that why everyone plays it here?
I don't know what Abaniggers are complaining about, she still seems like the same unga bunga bitch as usual to me.
>>563516697he was so hot in xx art
>>563517512God, I love Daisuke's giraffe necks.
I think the main flaw with team fighters is that all combos boil down to slop slop slop super tag slop slop tag slop super slop slopI think Tokon will be the same
>>563505730Answer and Kum are sick, what are you even talking about?
>>563514345Xrd was transparently kuso, but because Timmy and Sajam hadn't yet learned the term kusoge, it got a pass.
>>563517806At this point, I've seen every Xrd newcomer be claimed as "the worst character ever"
>>563517512HOT HOT HOT
>>56348329622X doesn't suck because it's hard, it's because you get it when you don't want to
https://x.com/GazelleStep/status/2043664997553750442The only really scary move here is the Sliding kick. Why the fuck are people so mad about Jam again? She's not as gorilla now compared to before. Puffball being -8 on block now is a crime against Jam. They should make it +1 on block again if people are just going to cry like this.
>>563517726when they come for you, I won't stop them.
Unika should die at the start of strive 2 so it can raise the stakes instead of this gay everyone is best friends and nobody is mean shit
If I can't punish it on block with c.S>f.S>5HS, it's too gorilla.
>>563517726Played fighting games all my life and tag fighters have always been the ones I never take seriously for that exact reason. The actual cool OTG or super low to the ground pick up extension are few and far between the actual gameplay of assist cheesing and overly long combos for how comparatively simple the actual routing is. It’s fun because it’s flashy but I don’t know how they’re ever someone’s main game.
>>563517979Please go back to /fgg/
>>563518520If you ask a low IQ person what her or his favorite genre is, they'll tell you it's rap, or RnB.If you ask a low IQ person what their favorite fighting game, is they'll tell you it's mahvel.
>>563517726I thought westerners love that sloppy dogshitprobably why Toke-on even exists
>>563518659What music do high IQ people listen to?
>>563518927Rock, metal, classic, orchestra.
>>563518279>Why the fuck are people so mad about Jam again?The only people that are mad are people in the trenchesSo far Jack, Hotashi, LordKnight, Diaphone, Daru and Leffen all said that she'll most likely never see tournament playThe only one that doesn't think she's bad is Kizzy and that's only because he said "Ya'll tripping how is this character real" in a clip where the wall breaks and Jam dash into grab's him
>>563518659they'll most definitely say "whatever's on the radio" and mortal kombat
>>563515591Reverse image search gave me a bingo card generator of it; here's a screenshot of one of the cards it produced that can be used as a template.
>>563518018My issue with Xrd is how modern day anime it is. At least Strive has Gio, Nago and Goldlewis alongside the shit ones like Unika and Asuka. Every single newcomer in Xrd is some BlazBlue shit that ruined the aesthetic trajectory of the series.
strive already has extremely oppressive gorillas so jam doesn't really do anything new worth getting mad about
>>563518473Ky should become completely corrupted by his Dragon Install and be like what Sol would have been like if he didn't have his limiter and then Unika should have to kill Ky in a scene mirroring Sol killing Justice complete with the line 'Unika, the GUILTY GEAR, looked down at her bloodstained hands'
>>563519210Beautiful.
>>563519030Nah she'll see tournament play. But won't place in top 3. Maybe around 5-8 at least. That said she's getting buffed for sure.
>>563519364>she's getting buffed for sureNot with all the scrubs like in this tweet >>563518279 complaining about her.
>>563519586The moment they see her in tournament play and see her losing they'll suddenly change their minds.To be honest she is strong though.
What’s the non shitposting explanation for Nago’s new move? I feel like all the nerfs and changes seem to make sense to me (Testament maybe the only one where I’m not sure what they want the character to do) and seem to fall in line with an overall goal of making the game more committal and really accentuating both the strengths and weaknesses of a character. But Nago’s new move feels like it’s the kind of thing they were trying to remove in 2.0. It fully papers over his main weakness seemingly without any kind of compensatory nerf. What am I missing here? Why did the character need this where others got kneecapped?
>>563519210Ky becoming corrupted by his Gear Cells and dying would retroactively justify Ky's crusader phase which while incredibly fucking based seems to be contradictory to the way the current story is being written where everyone can get along.
>>563520279Ky mellowed out after he started getting pussy on the regular.
>>563499954>>563491930reminds me of Fear saying delay was better and he had US-JP games in delay and they were fine
>>563520458Yes and?
No one here remembers how bad Jam was when she became playable in Xrd. Fucking hell she had no combos at all. She was considered trash tier. Literally the only F tier character.
>>563520713I played and did just fine with her though.
How would you render Dizzy a non-factor in strive 2, so Ky can become the next Justice without Dizzy bluescreening him with her gear control runes if he gets out of line?
>>563520063They were out of ideas so they gave him an install and made blood rage take 70% of his health
>>563521031If we had a dollar every time Dizzy was frozen in time space...why not pick up a third dollar?
>>563521145What if we time travel her into the year 30XX?
>strive 2>it turns out the evil robot god that tried to genocide humanity is actually still evil good job letting her out of jail after 3 weeks you dumb fucks
>>563521361Outstanding. Fucking brilliant but where would we find a time traveler to have that happen? It's not like Doctor Who where there is just a time traveling British dude running around.
I wish tokon had the ability to pick only one character, I don't care if I'm fighting hoards of tag/assist jank but it's hard for me to get invested when I'm not just one character
>>563521807It basically is one character since there is only one health bar.
>>563521807You just want the Ratio system?
Guilty Gear is the Japanese Hazbin Hotelthere i said it
>>563521932actually yeah I'd love a new game with that
>>563517726Tag combo hate is so forced
>>563521986If we knew what that was we would be able to comment.
I don't know about you guys, but I actually really want Guilty Gear and Blazblue to be fully connected. Yes, I approved Daisuke's "Arc Universe" and Damon and Baby as canon.
>>563521986I see some of your point but all of the guilty gear antogonists delivered on their threats without some stupid ass song bs ruining all tension + suspension so gonna have to disagree
>>563522332goritaire holds the cards
Why is may ranked so highly on tier lists? she seems pretty basic
>>563522596Her buttons and damage were broken
how do we reintroduce baccus sigh without making people shit their pants
>>563521545Daisuke will string something like this together for strive 2, I swear to god.
>>563522115>>563522437i didnt really have a point i was just wondering how japense saw guilty gear and just wanted (You)s so i just said some bullshit like usual
>>563519114>At least Strive has some extraordinarily lame characters that don't fit as main playable characters (and Nago even though he's very anime)
>>563522596above average dash speed
>>563521807it does basically, you can play with only calling them as assists and never tagging
>>563519114Applogize.
guilty gear has never had any villainsthat man just wanted to help frederick and aria, his best friendsjustice just wanted the rampant unnecessary destruction and rape of her kind to stopi-no just wanted to remember axlhappy chaos just wanted breakfast and is systematically denied from it by the universefaust just wanted to help people even if it meant going against the doctor codeeddie just wanted to defend zato even at the cost of zato's own lifethe only real villain here is johnny who'se only schtik is that he likes children romantically
>>563523375
>>563523502>the only real villain here is johnny who'se only schtik is that he likes children romanticallyMy FUARKING hero??????
>>563523507I simply cannot accept that Sol being designed around using a giant Lighter as a weapon is far away from bedmans design + Bedman in motion particular just works
>>563522971Gio is pretty bland but Goldlewis is one of the best characters mechanically and design wise that we’ve gotten out of fighting games in years
>>563523502Ariels was literally created to a absorb all the bad things everyone else had done so everyone else can be misunderstood good guys.Then Daisuke forgot she was the ultimate evil and responsible for every single bad thing in the world and he decided to redeem her too even though it makes no sense because she wasn't corrupted into being evil since she was evil before Happy Chaos even existed
>>563523375>>563523672Bedman is fine conceptually. But I do think he feels more in line with BlazBlue than GG. Very different vibe than Sol’s early 00s rule of cool sensibilities
>>563522671daisuke I kneel
>>563523375Bed always looked ugly and was a shit design. Shit design in Xrd, shit design in Strive. Both versions are complete cancer to play against too.Irredeemable character.
>>563520063>Why did the character need thisBecause for some god-awful reason, they heard people saying some characters desperately need more moves because their movesets are tiny and extremely limited, and they interpreted that as: "everyone in the release roster needs 1 new move, regardless of how many moves they already have and how complete their kit is".
>>563523672someone once asked me what the hell sol's weapon was I couldn't answer
>>563519114Giovanna has nothing going for her other than being fuckable. Unika's weapon alone is more interesting than anything about her and Asuka is far superior to either. The only newcomer who comes close to Asuka is Nagoriyuki.
>>563523930He would look way better without the forehead arrow and if the bed didnt have a gay little crown
>>563518659ive lived almost half a century and don't know what rnb stands for
>>563524389rape and bacon
reminder that daisuke has gone on record that he despises rap and reggae
rap and ragger
Jarvis, pull up The Town Inside Me comment section.
Do you guys like the new(ish) title screen? I'm kind of sick of the colors already
>>563523375>>563524151I don't even dislike bedman, but I'm reminded of the time when arcsys teased bedman in xrd with his silhouette and it was immediately evident to everyone the character would look completely retarded.
>>563525359most of the new UI is pretty good but the default battle UI is pretty plain, the battle fantasia one is a lot better
I'm tired of gio upplayers
>>563523375bedman is roujin z kino and everybody who dislikes him has shit taste
>>563525359I like the colors, but the menu still isn't that different from before so I feel indifferent about it overall. I suppose it's a little better. I'd like if the UI skins actually changed the look of the health bar instead of putting a different design behind it.
>>563506107its an ANTI AIR
Why did they kill Testament and give Leo backturn jump and faster charge movesThanks daisuke, very cool
>>563525901because leo is cool and testament is a faggot
who's the best zoner now, johnny?
>watch a tech video on twitter >guy has some god awful music playing in the background This isn't a Strive thing. Why do people insist on sharing tech and thinking it's an ad space to share their shitty music?
>>563526126happy gaos
is may still good?
>>563521875>>563523189Not anymore, they sped up the tagging so that it can be used to mix, so now learning to play at least 2 characters is mandatory unless you want to kneecap yourself.
>>563526238I mute the in-game music to play my own but I'd imagine a lot of them are too lazy/tech illiterate to just remove it or opt out of capturing it, or not considerate enough to pause it for their recording
>>563523502>that man just wanted to help frederick and ariaThat was a massive retcon that required creating another 'that man' that was going around using the same name who did all the heinous villain shit that was previously attributed to Asuka.
>>563525987Testament is buzzword thoughI main Ky and Test and both feel like shit nowShould I find a new main? I only have season 1 characters
Test is still mid-high tier albeithough and he has more potential nowDownside you can't just spam full-screen highlow anymore
>>563524314>praising Asuka>the most generic stock anime design possibleIf he didn’t have the stupid eye flower he would look interchangeable from any character in Japanese media for the last twenty years and it’s a spit in the face of the series that the big bad after all this time was such a wet fart of character design. I’ll take any of the ugly messes of design like Bedman over Asuka for at least having some modicum of effort and vision. Asuka is actually the worst design in all of GG and BlazBlue for that matter too
almost zero art posted in this threaddo you faggots all main hc or some shitfucks sake this game has gio baiken bridget JAGGO millia
>>563527213I can post some Jam but I think ggg hates her so not sure if it's appreciated
https://x.com/ShadeofRoy/status/2043486978792931454No.
>>563524314Niggaryuki is an embarrassing attempt to pander to Americans, same as Goldlewis. >Oh look it's a nigger, just like you! And he's a total weeb, just like you, except he makes it look cool! All the Japanese characters think he's the bees knees, this could totally be you some day! And he's a vampire! And he has cool robot mask! And he's the strongest dude in the setting! Isn't he so fucking cool, please like him!>Oh look it's a morbidly obese man, just like you etc.It took them until the end of Season 1 to figure out what was the easiest and most effective to pander to Americans. Kind of embarrassing really, SF6 had that shit figured out on launch.
why do I lose every single scramble
>>563527213I started my dizzy arc but I don't think that's the kind of art you mean
>>563527213Here's some Baiken fanart
the worst thing about this patch is unironically jamshe is absolutely playing the last patch and this gorilla is fucking everywhere manfollowup patch when
>>563527371>entire series identity is about leaning into cool shit people are too afraid to call cool nowadays without twenty layers of irony and self-deprecation The fact that it took this long to get a Yasuke character is the only thing out of place when Afro Samurai came out the same year as Guilty Gear. Fully in line with the design ethos of the series led by fucking Sol Badguy.
Genuinely what the fuck changed that arcsys is having this quick of a response to HC having some broken shit? This isn't the arcsys I know.
>>563527879ArcSys isn't a monolith. It's pretty clear that they transferred all the retards to work on Tookon considering the abysmal direction it took after the initial reveal, leaving people who actually have some modicum of sense to work on Strive.
LeoSolMayGiowho do I pick if Im a special spamming sped that doesn't know combosI play all fighting games like ST
>>563527879Sony and marvel showed them how to run shit with Tokon now they're doing the same with strive. Never seen patch notes after a beta leading to the next but that's what happened with Arcsys playing around with the big boys with Tokon.
eu lobby doko
>>563528065>TokonThat's Pachi's baby. All the retarded strive devs were taken with Katano to work on Blazblue Strive
>>563528104>who do I pick if Im a special spamming sped that doesn't know combosMay, easily
>>563527371>pander nigga this franchise is a westaboo's wet dream put to paper
>>563524314I do think they got so caught up in making a brown cutie with a stand that they forgot she’s supposed to be a special agent. Other than the outfit it really feels like there’s not a lot of personality shining through. Design wise she’s really strong though and slots in alongside other characters a lot better than the shit we were getting like Bedman, Raven, Ram and Kum
>>563527879>>563528065>>563528164Maybe the retarded ones worked on Granblue now.
holy fuck they made elphelt a neutral monstercharged fireball is batshit insane
>>563528104UnikaThe only motion input she has is her superAll her buttons autocombo
>>563528317There's a pretty vast gulf of difference between what a westaboo Japanese thinks is cool versus what a weeaboo American thinks is cool. It used to appeal to the former, but Strive desperately tries to pander to the latter.
>>563528291Yeah I was thinking that as well, I main Honda in ST and she has similar moves
>>563528591You're just making up retarded definitions. Daisuke has said Nago was meant for Xrd and he was gushing about wesley snipes in the early 2000s.
>>563529201>Making up shit and/or believing marketing lies
>>563528591What are you talking about when GG first started it was the wet dream of every numetal listening suburban living white boy in the US. The design took a nosedive BECAUSE the Japanese playerbase is their core audience and they have to appeal to the otaku over there who have consumed nothing but isekai slop for the last 15 years and just want waifu shit.
>>563529570Ah yes, Goldlewis and Nagoriyuki, truly the fitting images of isekai waifuslop.
can i get a qrd on what i should learn to get out of high gold-low plat?right now i managed ok by just applying pressure with frametrap/stagger pressure/run up throw, doing unsafe special xx RC and learning a bit about most of the characters (i ain't labbing whatever the fuck zato is doing) and antiairingwhat should i focus on next?how important are shit like tap dust RC combos and converting yolo counters you get in neutral?
>>563527018He has the universe in his cape
>>563529692Yeah, two of the only good characters out of GG since ABA
>>563527371I do think Nagoriyuki was made to pander to Americans, but he's still cool.
>>563530440>tap dust RC combosthey're okay as a finisher or in the corner to get positive bonus. they're also usually really easy so just lab one.>converting counter in neutralextremely important
>>563528325I think Raven, Bedman, Kum and Bedman fit in better with Xrd's general aesthetic than Giovanna does Strive's. I've been playing Strive since its alpha and I still occasionally get struck by how underdesigned she is next to other cast members.
>>563531028
>>563531028does jam also do certain things with the vegetables
bedman needs out of this fucking game manthe visual vomit is fucking retarded
>>563528943>I main HondaShe was made for you.
>>563530440Tap dust RC combos are both not difficult and probably the easiest way to open someone up and get reward off it.
might try this game again now that people can't get shimmied and just say "i have meter so I get to avoid dying for my bad play"
>>563531483remember when you could DP RC? those were the days
>>563531690DPRC would have been fine if not for the slowdown, like in BBCF
>>563531027That’s probably fair. I think I have a hard time nailing down what Strive’s aesthetic throughline really is. Like early GG obviously very millenium rock and metal vibe. Xrd for better or worse really leaned into the anime of it all. Idk where Strive falls. Characters like Goldlewis feel like they slot in so naturally they’ve always been there but then I look at Asuka and Unika and they feel painfully and generically anime but on the other end of the spectrum like you said Gio just kinda feels inoffensively there.Honestly feel like Leo is under-hated and one of my least favorites though. He always felt out of place to me even in Xrd.
be honestyou wish you had forearms like goldlewis
>>563531925Thank god they didn't go with t-shirt and jeans Asuka. I kind of like the bottom right and top right ones though.
>>563531925I wish all the female characters had Goldlewis's build
Does your floor level effect where you get placed in ranked?
>>563532090Im shocked they didnt give him that outfit when half the roster was designed to give them generic casual clothes
>do crossup overhead on Jam 4 times in a row>do low the fifth time>opponent just gives up like literally just stands afkthis happened twice now is this how milia's and gio's feel
>>563532180I highly doubt it.
>>563531483yeah the game still has problems but it finally feels like it isn't a complete waste of fucking time at least, I'm having more fun than I've been in sf6
fix ranked nigga
>>563532180>>563532484I don't think there's ever been a full explanation of the factors that affect ranked placement, but from what I've seen it's influenced by either the sum of your character levels or your highest character level (likely the latter). If you don't have a character over some level X then you're getting placed Gold 3 or below depending on your placement matches (AFAIK only [RANK] 1/3 are available for placements, never [RANK] 2); if you do have a high level character you get placed Diamond 1 or Diamond 3 based on how many placement matches you win. I don't know how ranked standing on other characters affects this (if at all), but I would expect it's another condition that can trigger higher placement default.>>563532731They know.
>>563532703Tbf to Strive, even at its worst it was better than Slime Rush
>>563532990Im floor 7-8 and I placed silver on two characters :)
>Arcsys actually listening to feedback and doing emergency patches for egregious shit like HC infinite and borked matchmaking>we still have to deal with Leffen
>>563533452as someone that spent most of the last few years on sf instead I kind of agreeWA was basically the same thing when it was added but arcsys had the sense to at least say if you WA on block you can't act out of it and you're minus, and both games are scrubby for lack of a better word but at least strive characters are fun and variedeveryone in sf6 plays the exact fucking same, all sf6 can really boast having is more players and infinitely better matchmaking
>>563530839>>563531286>tap dust RC combos are easygot it.if any sol main wants to chime in, i'm all ears. i usually refer to guides for BnB, but since they messed a bit with the combos in the last patch but if not i think i can figure out something.as for counters in neutral, they kind of feel weird because i'm not used to anime games hitboxes, so a lot of times counters come out somewhat unexpectedly.but i'll try to keep an eye out. maybe figure out if i can do something off max range heavies, since a lot of time i noticed that fanfnir whiffs because of the weird juggle launches
>Jam arcade mode story>The mystery of the rabbit part 1>The mystery of the rabbit part 2>Nevermind that let's just dunk on Chipp now
>>563533823Was in the same boat as you and I also have to give ArcSys for fucking acknowledging their game exists at all. It’s baffling how successful SF6 was for how fucking no contact the devs have been since. Nothing but a drip feed of avatar clothing for three years.
>versus JAM*sets fps limit to .1*nyo thyank yew :3
Are you ranked separately depending on character? Example silver rank when playing sol, gold when playing ky.
>>563534607yes
>>563534010I’ve been trying to learn sol too but since they messed with clean volcanic viper I’ve been struggling to find combos for converting off of hits for all my moves. Plus people are back dashing my safejumps so gg
which hacks do you use as lucy?
>>563534632Damn that’s pretty cool now I can play every character without worrying about my fake points
Replace Usagi with Glue modhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0f7nrLrYh20
How was stuff like DP RC and reversal Super RC never a problem in Guilty Gear but had to be removed from Strive?
>>563535585RC slowdown is stronger and anti-DP/reversal options are weaker.
So I have a question. I'm a shitter learning Johnny and I'm having trouble playing neutral with his step dash.Specifically I don't know how to check people jumping in from outside 6p range since none of my normals cover that space. Normally I'd run in to hit 6p or cl.s to steal my turn if I expected them to air block but Johnny can't really move like that.I drew a picture because I felt like it.
>>563535585Lots of oki in old GG was safe to reversals anyway
>>563536035jS
>>563536035cool picture
my lucy that went 0/10 got iron 1...
Potemkin O'Toole modhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Buo0i_VVA4
I would genuinely quit the character and never look backthe grind to vanquisher takes too fucking long and you're in the nest of wifi retards
what form of mental illness leads you to play a braindead character like dizzy in a fighting game?
so did arcsys finally learn the riot method of gaming and to make sure to release every new character as overpowered so people will buy it and think they're hot shit?
>>563537235Literally nobody thinks Jam is overpowered and every S4 character sucked dick
>jam downplayers alreadyholy kek
>>563536035Mist finer (upwards angle).
I keep jumping at the exact moment a projectile or move hits meHow do I fix this
https://youtube.com/shorts/AiLfuGnfoak?si=uD13-yMx_9xPemnJ
>>563537174shes fun
>>563537174Homing projectiles just give me a dopamine hit. I guess it’s like how grappler players feel about command throws
>>563538115did the twisted mind that brought us 2xko seriously upload a vtuber reacting to him play to his own channel
>>563538361That's his wife, tranny.
>>563538115Now post the clip without the screaming vt*ber
>>563538361You will never make a top 8 in your pathetic life.
is there a winstreak bonus?
wifelets seething
am I crazy or is anji painfully unfunand I don't mean fuujin nerfs those had to happen, all of his conversions just feel clunky somehow
How do you guys learn new combos after patch? How long does it take for dustloop to update?
I hacked gios brain but there was nothing there.
>>563540628i go into training mode and try shit outstrive combo theory is simple if you know how your character works
any rooms
>>563540971Ok I will try to read the combo theory on dustloop to learn cause idk shit
No one has ever had fun fighting a Bridget in this game. Built to be played in the most insufferable way possible
>>563527213This general being less of an art dump with RPing schizos that they bring like the other generals and more focused on the actual game is one of the best things about it. I fucking wish Tekgen could be like this but after season 2 and 3 it's beyond repair.
>>563541575I don’t like how her offense feels like it loops forever idk what to do anymore
WHY DID THEY CHANGE AXLS STUPID FUCKING COMMAND GRAB TO A JUMP CHECK OH MY GOD FUCK OFF YOU DISHONEST MOTHERFUCKER IT **LOOKS** LIKE A COMMAND GRAB
Jam is like ABA in the sense that she has no 5:5 matchupsShe either fucks you or she gets fuckedJam-Pot is like 8:2Jam-Axl is like 2:8
>>563542476is the jam matchup favorable?
Did they fix the matchmaking already? Because I booted up and got 3 matches almost instantly against similar elos
>>563543605been better for me today but they didn't say it was fied
>>563543969mm probably only needs a background fix not a 150mb patch
>>563540859She do be like that.
>>563540628>>563541545Fuck around in training mode and steal from better players' VODs.
someone remind me, is any of Giovanna's pressure interruptible or do you just have to hold it?it feels weird that she does a bunch of shit and she's always at worst safe but none of it seems interruptible, and I remember charged roundhouse used to be interruptible ages ago but then they buffed it
how the FUCK do i play zato
>>563543240It's 6-4 in favor of Jam.
>>563543240I have roughly 30 hours of Jam ranked now which one do you want to know
>>563483863>Union Creative figureFace looks much better this time compared to their Baiken figure
>>563544742Why is gio so sexy? Her and Baiken sexo rivals
>>563542476why? she seems well rounded
>>563547380You’re a tit man
>clearly awful connection>no option to forfeit
STUN DIPPER
Getting gatekept hard out of Virtus. Please let me get rid of the diarrhea swamp badge
Characters that can mask their 5D behind something deserve eternal damnation
totsugeki
Fanfare rapidly dying down now that people realize the game is still irredeemably Strive?
https://x.com/i/status/2043630173883695159i didn't know this
>>563551250I willingly played Isuka, Strive has a long way to go to reaching bad to me.
>>563551269To be fair you'd have to be using a keyboard and that's the most unplayable garbage input method for a video game ever invented.
>>563551250we just waitin for mahvel nigga
>>563551536What makes Isuka worse than Strive?
>>563551686Good thing I am autistic using a keyboard is my go to
It's been (almost) a whole day.Last time I'm posting this, only to get a "proper" idea of the traffick going through these threadshttps://poal.me/4b2gk8So far it's looking good bros
my desire to play the game instantly gets sapped whenever this fucker is on screen I just cannot respect a guy who's entire moveset is 300 variations of one projectile
>>563551250it's a monday
>>563551250tokon and ssj4 goku waiting room
>>563521031Ky shouldn't be Justice because Justice is a girl and I'm not gayJust make another clone or something
>>563553965for a guy with such a cool set of mechanics built around casting spells his actual spells are almost all boring as shit projectile spamNine is a way better fighting game spellcaster even if half the time she's just dropping a big rock on you
>>563541741Tekken 8 is ass. So is strive, you have terrible taste
This game is awful wtf
Why did they retcon cat ears?
>>563547380>Her and Baiken sexo rivalsGio wins.
>>563551250Name a better relevant fighter than Strive 2.0. No meme answers like SF6, Tekken, or Tag-slop in general.
What makes strive the designated fighting game for trans and gays? It can't be bridget because that was well before he came out.
Leo still plays like a S4 character what is this bullshit
Unika pisses me off so much. Such an annoying ass character designed solely to bring in anime onlies who were never going to pick up the game no matter what you did
>>563555253feminine/cutesy shit on males is a nono for modern games
>>563553965People for some reason though that nigga is very complex n shiet even though 80% of his kit are just simple projectiles with different cube model/particle effect and thats it. They dont even have different properties apart of travel speed, they basically do same shit unless you use one of two staffs lol.
>>563555556developer/creative lead is a westaboo progressive that would sell his brainchild to appease westernerscombine that with the fucking corrupt, misandrist, pedophilic (real) "FGC" at that timeI lost that one JP twitter image saying something like "EVO was cancelled because Mr Wizard ate a shota"
I Used This To Breed My Offspring
>>563557347it's crazier how much sexier mom dizzy is. it's the hair
>>563557347gawdlike hatching
>>563555556The game is dumbed down and simple but advanced shit which gives you insane advantage (FRC drift gimmicks, kara shit, IBFD, etc) is autistically hard so trannies can grind that shit for easy wins. There's also not enough freedom for character expression and unique playstyles so you can't outsmart anyone and don't need to think in general, truly a majong of fighting games.
Lobby doko
>>563554792>>563556751He's a painfully obvious example of the Strive DLC having limited budget since it's on ArcSys' own dime. Having loads of different spells was obviously the design goal, but that would be costly to animate, especially in their house style, so loads of extremely simple geometric shapes with some easy-to-replicate SFX thrown on top it is.
>>563555556>easiest entry in a franchise that is seen as "cool">attracts smash and hero shooter players, which have their own tranny and gay problem>the fgc, which is small and already infested with faggotry, encourages this happening or ignores it>all negative feedback is considered an attack on protected people and players, which only attracts more of them whenever the game is talked about>throughout this, developers make active attempts to sell to them across multiple characters, emboldening them into staying and making the game their identity
>>5635512505 more years and they'll start to think about baseline AD speed10 more and maybe IB will be rememberedlmao
>>563557110I'm sorry man but I dont think paying some chud teens to look cute for a little bit is a crime against humanitylike when you find out that the literal billionaire child rape island is real all this other stuff seems so meaningless
For those who may be unaware but would like to watch some gameplay, TNS for GGST is now live.
should i be playing tower or ranked as a new player?
>>563555505The eternal top 5 are infinitely more kuso than drive rush and throw loops anon. It's already apparent it wasn't enough to just delete wild assault.
>>563558775They could make cubes have actual different properties within his gameplan regardless how they look or are animated. This isnt budget problem but Strive by design.
>>563559889I'd play against a few people in tower just to get the controls done and then get your ass kicked in placement matches, game is generally good at placing you where you should be
>>563558548this! so much this!!
>>563559989Having to quickly tell apart cubes if they did drastically different things would be a massive pain, he isn't supposed to be Bedman where you can't tell what the fuck is going on.
https://x.com/i/status/2043815575319724051>Nerf C.S Hitbox>>It can now catch backdashes???????
>>563559684I was moreso referring to all those allegations in the Smash community, but what I heard was that he was some kinda proto-ecker, soliciting dick pics
>>563559684>Anon succumbs to Nihilism the moment he finds out the rich are doing evil shitWhat an unfortunate mentality.
Literally impossiblehttps://x.com/bwainwormhaver/status/2043733780444205226
>annihilating everyone on ranked and tower with Goldlewis >don’t even know any combos Im about to hit a wall so fucking hard once I start playing people who have more than one brain cell but it’s too fun to stop
>>563560660Can't he just spin it?I don't know the matchup but shouldn't spin just destroy it since he can't cancel his heavies?
for real now can anyone not retarded bake next
https://www.twitch.tv/tampaneversleepsLet's see how this take us, bro, KigPedostashe is with us tonight.
are these the best guilty gear commentators?
>>563561460he looks like a goldfish
is lucy good now
>>563561663KingPedostashe is a tryhard but he do know some stuff.
>>563562158I keep getting raped by her pressure
>>563560649>>563560541It's not even nihilism I just think its such a banal form of evil with such minimal harm that it solicits no reaction from me. Fat guy wants to jerk the cock he cant even find to teenagers. Whatever. The energy seems misspent
>>563553965My desire to play the game only exists when he is on screen and I am the one controlling him.
>>563561460>that stache>jeffrey dahmer glassesjesus
>>563551250As a noob in bronze, people are starting to just dash and air dash every second and it's getting obnoxious.
>>563562786He rock the 80s math teacher diddler like no one else.
>>563559989His cubes do have different properties. Howling Metron is preferable for starting combos, Delayed Howling Metron is important for pressure, MS Processing is very useful for controlling space for people who try high jumping over your projectiles as well as attacking from the air and Bit Shift Metron is a jack-of-all-trades but you have to wait for it to level up. That's just for the elemental cubes, but then he has Arpeggio, Delayed Tardus Metron and the non basic cubes like RMS, 808, Terra and Accipiter, and I assume those at least are obviously different even if you don't play him.If you do play him the utilities of his different spells becomes apparent fairly quickly, even before when you were able throw spells out less thoughtfully. I remember the first month or so I played him I just treated all cube spells as more-or-less the same thing, but they aren't and anyone who's even intermediate with him will recognize it.
>>563536035backward dash -> upward mist finer
>Gio has a fuzzy off throw
I have such a hard time doing the drift downwards after tk mistfiner... I basically need the card or im USELESS and it makes it so obvious
Why does it feel like every other character in this game has some high low rekka bullshit
>>563561067tap Fuujin could probably reach on whiff, but Nago 2H has also existed like that for too longrun up 2S or 2D could also work, but I remember Anji uniquely had a taller dash box
>>563563908In season 3 they decided every character needs strong high-low mix.
WHY DOES EVERYONE IN TNS JUST LET ZATO DO RAW PIERCE IN THEIR FACE BUT WHEN I DO IT THEY JAB EDDIE
zato is so cool...
>>563563908Fucking lows from jump ins too
>>563562158She's a bit better with QoL changes and new quick hack is cool. Since a lot of characters were toned down she's probably a solid mid tier right now. IBFD still completely shuts down her pressure tho.
are any of the characters im missing fun?
Gio has a fuzzy bush
>>563564554Unika and Slayer are fun in a gorilla way.
>>563564554Johnny is really fun.Jam is okSlayer is really fun if you like doing retard damge for 0 effort.Unika is pretty fun too.
>>563564025The median player's first instinct is to mash buttojs. All the above average to high level players will have situations live rent free in their head so they just block to be cautious
>>563564554look up creamapi and your problem will be solved
>>563564706what is the risk? If I cancel a normal into pierce mid screen, they jab eddie after blocking the first hit of pierce and all I get is maybe 2S into drill which is nothing
>fight nothing but Jams that mash until they’re dead or you’re in the corner and can start playing high low guessing game>random slayer, finally some variety >mashes until I’m in the corner and then starts doing high low guessing game shit>unika>alright she has a gun so maybe it’ll be some kinda keepawa->mashing until corner and starts doing high low guessing game shitEven bopping them out of the air with 6P doesn’t make them stop. What is with these morons
>>563565302People don't play characters like that to think
>>563565302character?
>>563565302you have to actively hate your mistakes to change your habits and most people just like the misery they endure so they never improve
>>563565302Yeah welcome to fighting games.
why is there a macro for faultless defense but not one for deflect shield? i play on pic rel and i use my thumb for the face buttons and only my pointer for the right shoulder buttons usually. annoying as hell that i can't just have dust on my face buttons because then i can't deflect shield
Lobby code?
>>563565732sounds like something a rape victim would say
>>563565743Yeah I'm starting to think fighting games are all just shit and "better than sf6" isn't a high bar, it's buried underground
>>563565302elphelts in the discord are seething because her rekka got severely toned downmeanwhile her charged shot buff is the most incredible shit in the gamepeople just yearn for the high/low
>>5635658501 button vs 2 buttons
>>563565850the hori software lets you define custom inputs (see: double buttons)
>>563565850>why is there a macro for faultless defense but not one for deflect shield?because deflect shield used to be a single button input until a few days ago.
Pretty sure I remember hearing Chipp is bad in Strive but I just fought my first one and would rather quit this game than fight another
>>563566683you were fed lies and chippaganda he has been high or top tier for the entirety of the game's lifespanat worst you can say he doesn't get some of his old retarded mix stuff but nobody does, it's strive
>>563563326Didn't she always
>>563566683He's never been bad and is definitely not bad now. Chippfags have just successfully convinced the wider populace that him having low HP means he's weak despite incredible buttons, pressure and movement.
>>563566975I dont know bro Im just learning im stuck in diamond 3 hell
>>563567079Is it where you throw and then jump forward and do jH jump cancel jH?
>>563567238you time it with a framekill J.K but yeah
>>563566904>>563566976Granted I’m playing a big body but it just felt like obnoxious matchup familiarity shit. Most of the characters I’ve felt pretty good about going into raw and figuring out but he’s been the first to just fucking press buttons and me be unable to figure out when it’s my turn.
>>563567318Gotcha. I never use the framekill though. Giovanna has so many cool set ups. Sad they took away her instant brc overheads
>>563567516He's a hard character to deal with in general. Hard to anti-air, easily gets in the range he wants to be in, great buttons and even though he does have a few gaps in his pressure, he also has a lot of options to keep it tricky. You can punish him severely when you get him at least, but he's a very strong character.
Things to note in the current TNS: a suprisingly lack of alphabet flags.
2.0 bracket set for april 18th 5pm estglobal tournamentdouble elimination ft3register HEREhttps://challonge.com/tournaments/signup/VW257aRG8F#/signup/f28yvue9lf13 participants !!! come strut your shit !!!
>>563567762/ourtransbian/ Chie Satonaka if she real will be in top 8 so you can't consider yourself totally rid of them
Can we all agree that Jam is fucking broken now?She's clearly designed as a last season character while everyone else is playing 2.0
Is Jack still dominating these weeklies?
>>563561460why do they go back to the room after every match
>play my 10 placement matches >win 7/10>immediately start getting fucking annihilated once I get placedCool maybe don’t feed me 90% day 1 Jams for my placements. Why the fuck am I ranked with people baiting burst when I’ve never played before
>>563540859you missed the cock
>>563568261>memed by placementsganbatteworst thing about ranked systems is that they can just brick accounts with bad placements
>>563567982This is the first 2.0 one so it remains to be seen.
>>563555505granbloo
which strive has the hairiest pussy this is important
>>5635360356K mist finer (up)
Had always heard people hated Slayer and now I understand. Not even losing to him but every single one plays like it’s always their turn. Feels like they don’t even touch a directional button they just move through spamming special moves. Would be more funny if I didn’t feel like it still took all my concentration
>>563568815zooey
>>563569042I like fighting Slayer because Slayer players are so retarded it's easier to win. The character is balanced by his playerbase.
>>563569184what do you even do if you make a mistake and he gets in and starts doing his jump crossup guard crush bullshit
>>563568815Johnny
>>563569304If he's doing Master Hammer, which so many bad Slayers do constantly, just jump during his pressure. It's a very safe out and you can get good reward once you've jumped out of the way too. He has options to punish you for trying to jump, but upbacking against him still goes a long way.
>>563567892Chie is my waifu and I will never fogive that literal chinman making turning her into his persona.I will never look at a grown ass man with a chin that could shatter marble look at ther and think "yeah, this is literally me"There is absolutely nothing between her that link her to him: physique, personality, or fuckall.I just can't fathom it.
It's so insane how this patch made me feel like things were different this time around. I actually thought that maybe the top tiers weren't gonna be ignorant like they were before and that characters who had actual flaws would be actually playable into the former top tiers. How fucking wrong I was for thinking that. They are all almost more ignorant than ever and it's even more apparent since if you're unlucky you're playing a nerfed character that has to deal with that now. Nago and Leo just get flatout buffed despite being gigabroken for the entire game's history, Chaos gets "nerfed" by getting a rework that just makes him broken in another way, Pixie characters are more toxic than ever since they keep their same absurd movement and buttons and mix while taking less damage than ever. But hey, at least Sol got a new move that they had to gut his entire kit for since it would be too good otherwise, right? It's just more of the same with a different packaging. And on top of all that, the matchmaking is complete shit and makes you wait an eternity just to play some guy that either is vastly worse than you or ranked way higher. Fuck this shit game and I hope the Jap retards who make it go broke and homeless
>>563569460He's just like you but he fell for her so deeply that he went past loving her to wanting to be her.
>>563569042same but with jam
>>563569483Full
>>563569575Look I'm gonna be real: it doesn't make a fucking lick of sense to me, if he love her so much I think the best course of action is to simply apprecaite her for who she is, not trying to become a poor emulation of her;The only thing in common he has with her is the haircut, and even that he couldn't even get properly.
Just played for the first time in about 8 months and I really really hate what they did to Baiken. No HKD off Kabari is crazy. Does she even have any moves that give oki now??How is Quizzy now? Might be the push I need to finally learn her.
>weapon of mass destruction raised by a mad scientist for 2 fucking decades to be an assassin>> Favorite Hobby: Seasoning
>>563570176>>563569460consider that maybe She doesn't actually want to become Chie and that the hair is just coincidentaland then also consider not making up fanfiction about someone because you're bored
>>563570457isn't 2 fucking decades super long for a gear considering how they age? isn't she older than sin then? I didn't watch the series i hate 3dcg
>>563570730the whole thing is animated in Blender, the incredible art direction is about the only thing Dual Rulers has.But she's half gear, Sins sister, so she ages about as fast as he does, not as fast as actual gears.My main issue is that she's not a mad scientist
>>563570908yeah but i mean sin is like 6, if she's 20 she's older than her older brother
>went a whole round where elphelt did nothing except rekka into safe oki the entire fucking round>I somehow didn't guess right on the double rekka even once so I simply did not get a turnwhy the fuck does this character fucking exist FUUUUUUUCK
>>563571582they wanted the noel audience
>>563571582Elphelt is a big feature in the "fucking idk just dont let her hit you" category along with Millia and Asuka
holy fuck i wish this game was 4 buttons only
>>563570457is her anime worth watching
>>563572110yes. but only because johnny is so cool in it.
>>563572110It's genuinely pretty good for 5 episodes and then the last 3 feels like it ran out of money.still pretty
Is Unika easy to play?
>>563572241yes.
>>563571839Why? The button layout only really feels busy if you add in FD macro which you can do without anyway.
>>563572241exceptionally
>>563570664Not to be confrontational, but I'm not sure what you're getting at that here.
I fucking despise Lucy not because she's too good but because her entire fucking kit chases backdash and I can't simply remove backdashing from my muscle memory
>>563572429backdashes are dogshit in soive. most of the cast can catch you if you backdash.
Ramlethal vs Happy Chaos feels like you're watching two amputees fighting each other.definitely the most nerfed characters for sure
>>563572292if you aren't playing on pad using the dash macro is awkward as fuck. i wish i could just rest my fingers on all the buttons at once but i need the dash macro.
>>563572541That would be Chaos and Oscar
>>563542476Nigga Jam fucks Axl upPuffball beats anything Axl does that isn't a projectile and as soon as you get 50 meter you can just go fuck neutral and do a flying kick that punishes 90% of Axl's moveset
>>563572474with setups sureat close range, maybesome with exceptionally good 2S can do it at mid rangebut lucy has pokes that nearly fucking fullscreen and still catch backdash and combo
>>563572721we love flying mappa
ChaosGAWDS...
>>563564554SL is the only character with freeform left/right/high/low/throw mix in this shitshowbut don't give them money for that 'cause they "redesigned" throw to be PG12
Remember when the retard Leffen said HC was still broken because he beat a couple of random platinum players in casual matches?
Did Axl already have like a billion pushback on Rensen or is that new
The top 8 is still the same
rewarded fairly for his resource usehttps://litter.catbox.moe/umxrdffy2lzvo26v.mp4
>>563573467I was trying to land this in a match earlier but didn't get it, still seems pretty realistic compared to most other setups I've seen with him. I think the way to go is to be in Test Case 2 so Screamer can set up the throw and you can have Tardus Metron for the OTG, then you just need 50 meter and enough mana to fish for the right cards in Test Case 3 and you're set. The only real difficulty is that it can be hard to be in a position where you have enough mana at that point to fish because of how his mana management is now, but it still looks very doable and I do think you'll see this setup in real matches.
I know the community generally doesn’t think Jam is amazing or anything but it feels like a cruel joke to release a 2.0 “bring people back/new players” with such a pubstomper character. It’s so fucking mentally taxing keeping up with her mix
DPs were so brutally nerfed this patch that it almost feels like you can ignore them
>>563573806They did it so you could be the pubstomper
How is Anji a real character. I’m just supposed to bait his fucking counter the entire match?
>>563574034run up throw
>>563573864I feel like this is only really true if your character has the better neutral.If Ky hits me with a DP I basically lost already.
i can't do these fucking hcb f inputs quick and clean enough on pad ffs. takes more than 14 frames for my super to come out. feels like i need an arcade stick
why can gio and leo block in their step dash but not johnny?
>>563574275Pad and leverless are faster and more consistent just keep trying
>>563574419because Johnnys Normals are bigger than everyone elses
Hotashingtons...
>>563574419cuz johnny's a zoner mix neutral god guard crush combo character
I dont think May should have insane corner pressure it just doesnt make any sense
>>563575996how is that any different to leo
>>563576298idk johnny got da disjoints
Came from SF6, picked up Goldlewis for my first day and here's my blogpost>Fun/Fine MatchupsKySolMayGioSinLucyVenomRamAsukaFaustBridget>Annoying as fuck to play against, felt like a lot of knowledge check abuseJamSlayer (Also the only character that one and doned me, and multiple times)DizzyUnikaLeoElpheltAnjiChipp
>>563576417>no ChaosBros... our player rate is dropping...
>>563576417I also came from SF6, havebeen playing since 2.0, and the only character's I've fought is Jam 2000000 times
I'm sorry but Jam is bullshit and she needs a nerf, now.
>>563576417slayer is THE one and done/BM character because he's a one shot character filled with gimmicks that you have to understand how to deal with or you instantly eat shit, kind of like a blanka or honda player
It's so weird watching Happy Chaos and that he kinda has to play the game now
bros I fucking love throwing cubes
Burst is my least favorite mechanic in this entire game. what was wrong with burst safe combos? why does Burst have to be full screen? Why does it put the opponent at a frame advantage? Why do you have to win neutral against zoners twice to start your offense? absolutely borked mechanic
>>563577570just bait it and double molest them
>>563572241kara 214 is kind've an annoying input but otherwise yeah, super simple
-4? -1??!!
Leffen said we deserve this version of HC because we weren't grateful enough when he got nerfed every single patch.
>>563577163Same.
>>563577628You can only "bait it" if you hit a jump cancellable button, which there arent many of at all, and nearly none of them are viable pokes
>>563577570non-fullscreen burst made the division between top tiers and everyone else much worsejust learn to bait it
Who is pic related supposed to be I never played Xrd much
>>563577679That's fair? Puffball is -8 now and not +1. If they want it -8 they need to bring back its massive hitbox again then. Or keep the hitbox and make it +1 again.She needs it.
>>563577691That he'd even say that is just indicative of how out of touch he is with people's view of the character, because I'd rather this HC and I'm pretty sure everyone else does too. The dumbest thing I've seen people saying about this patch is looking at characters who are obviously worse now and going 'bros... I think they're actually even stronger now!' Nobody is fucking stronger, much less the likes of HC. That he's still playable and still let him have some strengths instead of completely nuking him doesn't mean he's even close to what he was before.
leffen said strive players are weird for having things like "baiken paizuri" as their comment
THERE IS NO BAITING A FULL SCREEN OMNIDIRECTIONAL HITBOX
>>563577914how i feel trying to bait jam's 236s
>>563577843She is Axl and I-No's time traveling daughter from the future, Daisuke told this to me in a dream.
>>563577843Don't think it's anybody, she was just drawn for the album cover as far as I know.
>>563577570Burst safe combos are fine so long as they involve different routing and thoughtfulness in what you're choosing to route with but too many Strive characters just got to be Burst-safe by doing what they were going to do anyway. You complain about having to win neutral twice against zoners but without the fullscreen Burst you'd both have that and you wouldn't be able to Burst their fullscreen combo when they get a hit on you. I think it was a completely understandable change, especially given how volatile the game is.
>>563577962*wet dream
>>563570908>the incredible art direction
>>563578214crazy blowjob
>>563576417>Slayer (Also the only character that one and doned me, and multiple times)unironically part of the mix
>>563578214SUCKville-sama?!
>>563578214bimboVacuumSucc.webm
>>563578338there is no real reason for that thing to have giant red lips its so offputting
>"like you can't say that the entire strive community does not deserve this for how much shit they gave previous chaos"The delusion of Leffen saying this is baffling. HC just won Arc World Tour. HC was the most represented character for the past 3 AWTs in a row I'm pretty sure. HC is arguable the most degenerate character made in the modern fighting game era. How can someone be this narcissistic?
>>563578454learn the matchup
>>563572721oh hey so it wasn't just me being bad, that's nice to know
Did they changed charged Dust's start-up or just increase the recovery on more stuff? It's been happening a weird amount of time in TNS.
>>563578214Slurpville dono tanked that
>>563578454Youre talking about a guy who has genuinely stated he wants people to die because they play Jigglypuff in a childrens party game. To even entertain the idea his arguments are to be taken seriously is to be the Fool
>>563577570if the dev team actually sat down to play their own game to then work out Burst-safe routes for everyonethey've already been clipping the ridges off cS to enable jump-ins, so they do have the potential to turn this mess around
Has HC ever not been top 10 at any point in Strive?
>>563579083Yeah, when he wasn't in the game.
why do people genuinely backdash in neutralevery character in the game has buttons to not only catch backdash but damn near react to itstop backdashing in neutral, its not good
>>563577862How do you beat the high low blockstring ender mixup spam? Serious question
>>563578214>here's your final dlc character bro
>backdash someone's 2k>they mash 2d despite whiffing and it hits me anywayi hate this game
Wonder if HC would be more liked if he was at all entertaining to watch
>>563579394that was me ggs
>>563579424did you not just see the tns set? it was pretty good
>>563579234I feel like that's not true, I had a lucy backdash on her oki and I would get countered every time reacting to it
>>563579491Yeah I really liked the part where the Gio was being zoned and barely moved for 10 seconds straight.
if they butcher robo ky im gonna shit and piss and cry i already had to deal with him being nerfed to the ground in +r compared to reload
>>563579424I don't mind watching the new one, but the whole reason people dislike him is because he's always been a chore to watch and fight. People were excited to see him added to the game before he was in, they learned to dislike him afterwards.
>>563579491>final game final round came down to HC sitting full screen chipping out the Gio for 10 seconds until he fucked upYeah so good…
>>563579638This is Strive nigga, you shouldn't expect much for a returning character.
>>563568261What rank did you get placed in?>>563577731You can also RC>>563577914If this is also about burst then I'd prefer my opponents waste their bust fullscreen / in poke range like you mentioned rather than saving it for when I hit them with c.S or f.S.>>563578214The classic.
>>563579626>>563579713a last hit, last second round 5 is apparently bad now because god forbid someone grab space against GIOVANNA
>>563579759salyer and jam came back pretty in tact
>>563579272Right now? Hold it and then look for the enders you know are too minus. It's not like all of her buttons are + anyway.That said that won't work later on in the life cycle because right now almost all Jam players are playing her very straight forward. I'm already seeing so many stuff coming out that will make her a nightmare later on.
>>563579626gio blocked the shots in the air, making the portal shots whiff and creating a gap. that's what you need to do apparently.
someone bake a non retarded thread onegai
>>563579837Amount of rounds doesn’t correlate to entertainment the fuck are you even saying
>>563579837Shut up faggot. You can just admit you like a lame ass character without looking this silly trying to defend him.
>>563580189Genuine fucking tourist holy shit
>>563579272pretty sure there's a fuzzy mash timing between the high/lowI've reacted to the start up of the overhead and mashed because it's noticeably slowertotal bs that both the overhead and low are safe though
>>563580278>oh no I look like a dumbass better play the tribalism card so the randos will think I’ve got the authority here Epic OS anon, you got me
>>563579837Game was good, dunno what the hell these guys are on about. Might be some patch shitpostrrs maybe
Feel like GL is one of the most fun unga characters to watch
>>563579653 (me)>>563580745Agree though that Chaos fatigue is very real across the board. I'm happy with nu happy chaos direction wise but they need to clean up the clearly unintended infinite use of bullets he's not supposed to have anymore
Even if the patch was surprisingly decent it wasn't enough overall to undo 5 years of damage and by now it's too late for Strive to course correct
>>563581204K
>>563581181I (me'd) the wrong one xd
>>563581204He's right doods better stop playing the game because clearly your time is better spent on other fighting games, like......
fix slayer nigga
I miss Xrd Ram. Hate her hair in Strive
good, don't bakelet it die
I love rage-queuing and dropping 50 points because my character’s best oki tool and “character defining traits” got completely raped and gaped this patch
Literally every single character who got significantly nerfed deserved it 100%
>>563581502Guilty Gear XX Accent Core +R, Guilty Gear Xrd Rev2
Why is Feel A Fear so fucking good
>>563582027Yeah, ok bro. fucking nerd
>>563581994Look I like the patch but you’re gonna have to jump through some hoops to convince me Testament needed to be gutted while Nago and Leo get huge buffs
why is suck a sage such a retarded name
>>563576417>fun>asuka>faust>bridgetthis nigga knows how to dash block
>>563582235>>563582235>>563582235[New Thread]
>>563582318Thanks bwo
>>563581204Nah, it will absolutely smash T8 at Evo at least, and the only reason SF6 has more players is sandnigger money.
