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magical girl corruption edition

Previous Thread: >>563368474

2D Hentai games (Hentai RPG, Violated Heroine, H-Action Games) General /hgg2d/ former /vhg/

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>NEWCOMERS GUIDE: (PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING)
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RPGMAKER:
>IF YOU'RE PLANNING TO PLAY RPGMAKER GAMES, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE RIGHT RTP FOR THEM
https://www.rpgmakerweb.com/run-time-package

>HOW TO PLAY THESE GAMES ON LINUX
https://files.catbox.moe/b1zbm2.txt
>RGSS DECRYPTER FOR APPLYING PATCHES
https://github.com/usagirei/RGSS-Decryptor
https://files.catbox.moe/s8ju7k.zip

MACHINE TRANSLATION
>Nifty translation tool by Anon:
https://github.com/marisukukise/japReader

DLSITE
>RJ CODE QUICKLINK SCRIPT FOR GREASE/TAMPERMONKEY
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>RJ Gallery SCRIPT
https://kani-ge.github.io/dlsite-previewer/
>DLsite Image Preview Loader
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https://github.com/kani-ge/DLSite-Preview-Loader

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https://files.catbox.moe/3v2iim.txt

THINGS THAT DON'T BELONG HERE
>Fetish discussion outside of the context of video games:>>>/h/
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>3D games:>>>/h/hgg/

Please wait for page 10 before making a new thread.
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She won.
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Check Ci-en
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>>563483925
Nice matching blobs.
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Playing Lelie navigation and it feels pretty good.
The slowburn corruption and plenty of potential h teasging is making me edge real hard, what am i in for? Is a semen inferno approaching or will my balls turn blue?
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I only play lolige!
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>>563484143
Make sure to protect her from evil people.
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>>563484027
Nyo, you will not bamboozle me ever again.
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>>563484208
I'm thinking about it strogly. She's such a good girl, what if she can fix them?
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>>563484143
Tried that game twice but both time stopped at the church part that pretty much forces you to follow a walkthrough.
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Why is Leaf used goods already? I want to be the one to decide who will deflower her. This is a load of bullshit, I always want them to lose their virginities to prostitution.
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>>563470381
500 hours in photoshop
https://litter.catbox.moe/enup3y.png
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>>563484019
>deep one Lona
You better give her virginity to the fat fuck in the upper red light district
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>>563485523
Since she probably got raped to hell and back in Lily Knight, the game she debuted in. I haven't played it but she might have started as a virgin in that.
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>>563485841
>Lily Knight
Wait, does this game have a timeline?
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Damn, missed the daughter marriage ending, only got Temperance and Tower(default), no chance you can trigger multiple without guide.

On the other side filling gallery and event list will provide good replay value. And the lewds are great so I kneel to Oyari.
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>>563485963
TsuKINOmizu games are interconnected. No direct sequels, but several games (if not all, I'm not sure) are set in the same universe, share characters, etc.
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>>563485523
She already belongs to Est. Why haven't you played Lily Knight?
>>563485963
All the TsuKINOmizu games are set in the same universe and generally have recurring characters. Leaf is one of the main party members in Lily Knight.
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>>563485963
Pretty sure the tsukino games happen in release order. Mostly at least.
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Imagine how disgusting Ests insides are
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>>563486293
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>>563485523
it's tsukinomizuverse, all named girls probably get tentacled on a semi-regular basis.
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wtf I'm supposed to do.
The game give objective to make a bed, wash dish, or clean toilet.
But I can't interact with object.
Her alert also stay at 100.
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>>563486348
I meant her parasited organs
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>>563486502
If they go a full week without getting tentacled then something weird is going on.
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>playing RJ01200699
>requirements for fucking the shotas you're teaching is to lose your virginity
fucking dropped, I wanted her to lose her virginity to them
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>>563486868
how can you /ss/ if you're not even an experienced onee-san?
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>>563486868
>lose virginity
>to dicks that can't reach hymen
Ishiggy.
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anyone now what game this is from?
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>>563488483
Look like Liese
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>>563488670
>insect progression
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>>563489545
100% of the scenes are with ningens, trash fucking game
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>>563486557
RJ? This looks interesting
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>>563486836
Hey, Tatan went pretty long without getting tentacled since she was from the tentacle free country.
Out of all the Eclipse flatties I hope she gets her spin off since they established she's going become an adventurer and fight tentacles in flimsy clothing
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Polca
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>>563489690
I dont believe you
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>>563485523
She is the Lily Knight Saga protagonist's sex slave wife.
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Today I must do my best!
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>>563488483
Depravity of a Lewd Vampire
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>>563490117
Yeah
>check dlsite page
>green skin
>blue skin
I fucking knew it
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>>563490117
>1 scene with insect at the beginning that's not even sexual
>like 1 or 2 with green humans
>rest are with bandits and shit and the mayor
That game was a waste of my time
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Loli vanilla games?
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>lays eggs in her brain
>not sexual
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anon...for...give...m...e...
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need more kankin training slgs
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>>563489690
Hot. Hope i can find it.

>>563490649
Egg laying is for reprudictions, not "sexual".
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>>563490545
Loli isn't vanilla, mangapostfaggot.
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>>563490914
Loli IS vanilla.
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>>563490795
i want to fuck a statue
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Notice how police anon never tell off-topic manga-game-for-this-feel faggot to fuck off
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1) Missionary Leglock (DP optional)
2) Mating Press (DP optional)
3) Stand and Carry (Leglock optional; DP optional)

>>563488483
Missionary Leglock with Passionate Kissing is the absolute highest peak. It is a timeless classic.
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did this get TL'd or did it get tool'd by whoever posted it?
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>>563491327
Oh yeah, does her tits get bigger?
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>>563486125
Every game is in the same universe and the timeline is the same as the release order.
Earth is part of the Tuskinoverse.
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She cute
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>>563491939
Es Mtool senor.
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>>563492106
game?
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>>563490545
I love noble lolis
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>>563492214
>only one other game
I swear I have seen that artstyle somewhere else before
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>>563492269
Yes, it's a game. The male mc is a faggot btw.
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>>563492497
Just wait till you see the antagonist, he ain't any less of a faggot.
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>>563492497
so NTR? you gotta tell us the name now
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What a lazy ass mahou shoujo transformation scene.
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>>563492716
>ultra high cut leotard
>no pubes sticking out, even on two MILFs
The worst offender.
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Where do I find the Ethis church?
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>nice looking CG
>the only tag is scat
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(RJ239375)
?????
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>>563490256
Ganbatte!
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>>563493893
You never stood a chance in the first place.
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>>563493893
congrats on beating it

i wish the dev at least let you nowayfag the slut if you finished the game on hard
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>>563494713
I'ma keep trying. I feel like there's probably a way to win. I might just have to get a higher score. I was optimizing the forest part, but caves were a pain in the butt, so I stopped for now and decided to see the ending for the first time.
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>>563493180
rj?
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>>563489739
RJ01597988
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Why did Romasha do it?
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>>563497230
Do what? My childhood friend?
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>>563497303
Yes
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>>563497230
Winners can do anything they want
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thank god he lives
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whats the best way to insult the subhuman shit muncher that brought out エリィは村の共有妻 RJ01559937 ?
he doesnt have a ciel, is twitter the best option?
i want to insult him and his degenerate family that shat out a subhuman like this in this world
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>>563493893
this game was retarded difficult
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>>563497570
>4.65
What's wrong with this game?
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>>563497792
EVERYTHING
i want to kill every character and the author
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>>563497570
Cringe post
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>>563497519
god I can't wait for this ge
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>>563498281
>EVERYTHING
So you got meta-cucked out of a good game. KINO!
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>>563497519
So how he handle the first game as prequel?
Make all girl canonically virgin?
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>>563497570
Kill yourself instead, retard
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>>563476179
>everyone loved cunbun's game
i played it and it's fucking shit
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>>563475887
he should have made a tuhu game desu
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>>563497570
Looks like this general dont necessary agree with your opinion. Would you like to sit down and reflect on yourself for a bit?
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>play ntr
>get upset about ntr
if you want (you)s you could just larp as a ntr lover
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>>563497570
Art and scenes are hot.
If the sister wants to get spitroasted, it should be her choice.
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>>563498980
i kill your whore mother instead retard
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>>563499652
didnt expect subhumans to agree desu
4shitters have shitter taste than normalfags
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>>563497570
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>>563500741
Calm down ledditor.
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>>563493893
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>>563502162
defaultningen...
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release her game already
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>>563499805
I wish he larped as a stable happy player anon who just enjoys indie hentai games.
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>>563502258
The change breast shape based on the outfit is nice.
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>>563484019
I still haven't played Lonarpg.
Is it actually good, or just a meme?
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any way to see the full image used as thumbnails for ci-en articles?
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RJ01507844
>See 3.84 star rating
>Check reviews
>Story and writing are great, don't regret buying at all
>But there wasn't enough Anal so 4/5
?????
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>>563497570
I will now play this game. Thanks for the reccy, anon!
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>>563497570
Your sister belongs to everyone. Stop being selfish, Anon.
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>>563503229
>he fell for the 4.5 or above meme
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>>563502865
It's good for what it is. 7/10 or so, I guess
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https://ci-en.dlsite.com/creator/11478
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>>563503229
Technical difficulties on release, perhaps. Either that or the game is buggy as hell.
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>>563504352
Yeah, that's probably. I noticed the first patch of the game had "fixed progression breaking bugs"
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>>563497570
>he doesnt have a ciel, is twitter the best option?
???
https://ci-en.dlsite.com/creator/28129
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Successful indirect spoonfeed worked.
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>He did it for free
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>>563505285
is that NTR smile?
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men only want one thing
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>>563505413
no it's a smug correction asking smile
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>>563502865
its good if you like seeing the dirtiest ugliest motherfuckers have sex
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What a sinful woman.
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>>563505624
wrong, it's a comforting shotas smile
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>>563505519
What's that thing?
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>>563504290
creAItor
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>>563490795
why is she imosing
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>>563404874
saw this posted in the previous thread, but cant find the dev
can anyone help me out?
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>>563490795
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>>563506180
It's not out.
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man, checking in cien blogs for game devs is like looking at a graveyard, so many dead projects
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>>563506375
that's why I'm asking for the dev
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>>563506475
Why? There's nothing for you to play. At best you'd only be spoiling the game's content for yourself.
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クリメニア?
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>>563506536
Unironically based. Cienposting...demoposting...futuremaybeposting...trash.
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>>563506180
>>563506475
https://ci-en.dlsite.com/creator/33028
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>>563506569
play something else, wait a month and check back
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>>563506621
Now give me my complimentary rimjob
( * )
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>>563506536
It's peak NTR to follow a game for months and years only for it to get abandoned or turn out to be pure kuso
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>>563506440
But enough about your mother's womb!
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>>563504928
thx
i hope he understands english
any suggestion? what makes nips seethe and regret ever starting to make trash games?
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you're weird
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>>563504290
Who is this breedable slut?
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>>563506621
thanks, the post called him lunadev but I couldnt find another game to track down the ci-en
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>>563507038
I'll make sure to give him a $20 tip and an encouraging message so he keeps making more kino NTR games, don't worry!
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>>563506714
Clymenia is performing peak NTR.
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do you think it's better to have 10 scenes with high quality drawing or 100 with reused cg, and below average style?
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>>563497570
>i want to insult him and his degenerate family that shat out a subhuman like this in this world
kek this reads exactly like one of those angry chink twitter posts/steam reviews
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>I'll make sure to give him a $20 tip and an encouraging message so he keeps making more kino NTR games, don't worry!
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>>563507273
I hope you're into sufferingkino, because the dev (tokiba) always makes good art of cute girls suffering
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>sequel
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>>563507559
good
thats how i wanted it to be
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>>563507559
it made me think of that too, same pathetic energy, he's trying to channel that inner retardation
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>>563507038
nips hate indians so throw in a bunch of curry and vishnu references
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nips hate covering so throw in a bunch of bras and pads references
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>>563507038
How did you even find the game, as far as I know its not translated and you're clearly some subhuman ESL who can't read tags so translating it yourself seems unlikely.

Guess you must be mentally retarded or some Larping Jeet.
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>I will donate him $20 so I have more NRT shit I can selfinsert as the cuck and be cucked more!
KEKKKKKK
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>>563502162
how many scenes UD has?
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563508013
>buzz word buzz word buzz word
no you dont fit in yet reditor tourist and yes i will shit in your mothers mouth you shitskin pajeet and yes she will love it
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>>563502865
The game is not handholding you and you will learn from mistakes and a experience. There are some quests where a different approach can be done to get better rewards or save certain allies and the game does not tell you that. There are a lot of hidden quests and factors like Lona looking weak where certain NPCs will not talk to you about their quests or will just rape you for looking weak.
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>>563508164
Based.
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>>563507760
>Fuck you slit eye! Your game is shit! I spilled my curry because how shit your game was! Vishnu curses you saruman!
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>NRT
Oh, you post on /vn/.
Mentally retarded doesn't even begin to cover it then.
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>>563502865
it's a good game if you can stomach the initial difficulty
but it's not a good hgame
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>been very busy this year, little time for hgames
>figured I'd stay away from lolige for a while
>finally get some time and dive back into lolige, into some CLASSICS and a lolige by a dev I've followed for years that they've updated a lot since I last played
>said updated lolige has very good VA, particularly rare in douj works
>it's an evil lolige so you hear all sorts of straining moans, pants, cries etc
Holy shit taking a break from lolige then diving back is one thing, but going into evil lolige might be too much, bros. I sometimes feel like something akin to succubi are real, these lolige are bordering too powerful, and it's as if my break has lowered my resistance! Be careful, hgg2d!
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>>563508013
he found it on otomi games, where it wasn't tagged NTR (or he didn't notice it) and now it's the dev's fault he can't read (or that it wasn't tagged NTR on otomi)
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The fuck is going on in /vn/ why are so many tourists coming over here recently?
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>>563508783
tell me so i can avoid these succubi
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>hates NTR
>decides to play "NTR RPG: That time I got brutally cucked by every fat and ugly bastard in the village"
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>>563508892
>Otomi
oh no no, he better check his pc for malware.
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>>563508908
>>563508505
>NRT
I go on /vn/ sometimes but don't recall this. What do they mean by it? I would have presumed they mistyped and didn't proof-read 'NTR'. /vn/ shits on NTR (rightfully) quite a lot which is a nice contrast to hgg2d aka NTR nonsense galore.
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>>563509073
moebutas fear NTR so much they don't even dare to spell it right
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Go to Mount Athos.
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>>563509193
If it isn't an abbreviation or play on words I'd then assume it was to avoid filters, which you see people do, but that wouldn't last long anyway as people would just add the new key into their filter. Either way, bizarre, but sadly /vg/ is full of retards, schizos etc. I'll be sure to make fun of them next time I see 'NRT'.
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clymeniage doko
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>>563509250
>bunch of men who literally just want to be left alone
>women feel so insulted they just have to sneak in
mt athos is wild, everyone is basically a rpg character too
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>>563509367
Women have always been catalysts of evil. Remember who gave Adam the forbidden fruit.
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>>563509250
the better question is, have he ever busted a nut?
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>>563509073
Going by his autistic rants from a few days ago seems he's deliberately spelling it like that. So safe to assume the other nrt posts in the archive are also him.
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>Have to get affection to 100, any less and the girls tell you to go fuck yourself
Fucking Japs man
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>Play Femc corruption game
>got Netorikino
Today is good monday
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>>563509675
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/text/%22NRT%22/
Yeah that's a bit sad. I like to make fun of NTR like all sorts of other genres but some of this is just retarded.
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>>563509539
Then why would an omniscient God create women in the first place if He had the foresight of what to come and the knowledge of all that happens in heaven and on Earth?
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>>563509073
>/vn/ shits on NTR (rightfully) quite a lot
lol
lmeow
6/10 bait
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SOMEBODY POST LOLI ALREADY!!
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>>563509675
oh now that makes sense
some people are truly deranged, what is so complicated in ignoring fetishes you're not into and living the good life with ones you like
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>>563510042
Shits on =/= never praises it (of which is often in jest anyway), newcutie. /vn/ is much more biased against NTR than here.
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>>563498957
Isn't the monkey breeding unskippable tho?
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>>563509675
It's sister NRT too, so not real NRT. Dunno why he's mad unless he's an inbred.
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>>563510115
what a convenient narrative! I see what you're trying to do
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>>563498281
You sound mentally ill, seek help.
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>>563510212
ah you're just yet another schizo. see: >>563510246
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>>563509642
Inevitably since wet dream exists. Now the question is what did he dream about that made him coom.
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>>563510013
why not?
it doesn't affect him personally
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You know what genres cannot interact? Lolis and NTR.
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>>563510273
>wet dream exists
not if they all have aphantasia
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>>563510013
He works in mysterious ways.
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>>563497570
Are you getting triggered by NTR? How new are you?
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>>563510115
vn is biased against nukige in general
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>>563510297
Jesus died for our sins so I'm sure it affects him somewhat.
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>>563507038
For every hate comment I see I will give him a 10US$ tip on his ci-en.
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>>563510346
I like both and I kind of agree, with few exceptions
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femdom ge
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>>563497570
>>563498281
You sound like one of those nhentai faggots that get tilted and have a melty at every NTR doujin
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guro scat NTR ge...
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Wakey wakey western anonss! Your great 2nd coming of Christ fetish is under attack!
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Loli NTR, but fat ugly oji-san is cucked by a tentacle chad
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Jesus pirated bread
Mary was 12
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>>563510439
>affects him somewhat
same as if you had died in a rogue game
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>>563510615
the melty comments are fun though, especially the actually serious ones
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FutaCunnyNTR...
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>>563497230
God I love my wife who can barely say no!
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>xianxia dev made a shitty AI PV (his characters already looked like AI)
>post almost every other week saying hes totally did another scenario
>no posts about the gameplay since its inception
another scam..
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>>563497570
Benchod Prime-sama...
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Reminder NTR addiction IS in-fact porn addiction, so it's fine to insult these subhumans
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>>563497570
You should play RJ01557100 /vn/egro.
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>>563510803
Imagine what Joseph had felt when his loli wife suddenly got pregnant. God is a netorichad.
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PROVE YOU ARE NOT INDIAN AND CURSE VISHNU RIGHT NOW!
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porn addiction is not real
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>>563511030
>reminder that addiction is addiction!
Well...yeah. NTRggers are dumb but anon you're not doing yourself any favours here.
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>>563511220
I'll make a cheeseburger
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>>563511034
>this work is not free
ntsbros, how do we respond to this without sounding mad?
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>>563511220
Curse Vishnu but also NTR is kino, simple as :^)
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kino soon
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>>563511325
Based
Many say this, and will continue to say this.
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>>563506621
I started gooning on his doujins the moment I knew about him being a ge dev.
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>>563510904
Your wife is a whore.
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>>563510439
Why does an omnipotent being have to do all these weird roundabout ways to "save" humanity from sin (that he created)? Is he dumb?
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>>563511528
>le femc is a... whore!
wowie anon, you sure got me
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>>563511330
>Loli
>but sagging tits
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>>563511591
Jesus is trying to go for the True Ending.
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>>563511330
Kinokinokino!
We need more Elaina-coded ges.
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>>563511049
>cucked by GODiges
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>>563511375
Lost off-topic anon...
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>>563511298
That's not even nts
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We need more sensei x student eroges
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>get cucked
>destroy the world
more games should do this
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>>563504290
Another kino cookin'
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Versa's roast beef cunny.
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>>563511824
Are you sure about that?
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>>563510940
he is courting death I see
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>>563512143
She'll never unblob.
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>>563511034
great nukige vn, but i've always been a fan of jinsei
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>>563512246
No sex, no topic.
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>>563511249
correct
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>>563511930
r/whooooooooosh
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>>563511330
I like her eyes
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>>563511947
*brap*
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>>563511375
hinted nopan is nice
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>>563511298
not an nts game, it's ntr mystery all the way
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>>563512246
THINGS THAT DON'T BELONG HERE
>Fetish discussion outside of the context of video games:>>>/h/
>Visual novels:>>>/vg/vn/ or >>>/vg/vng
>Non-Japanese games:>>>/aco/weg/ or >>>/aco/weg2d/
>3D games:>>>/h/hgg/
Also it's all ages, not h, so fuck off.
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Where is slurpanon? Is he deaded??
Nywooo...!
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Machine Child won, give it up chinks.
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>>563512625
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>>563512812
Mori game doko?
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>>563511947
Male sensei x female student or female sensei x male student? Or both flavors of full homo?
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>>563513016
Horse breeding simulator?
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>>563512625
Okay, I'll just go back and actually finish ES, I forgot I left off on some "imouto position" feud between a clingy Himiko & Geronimo.
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>>563513115
futa sensei x your crush
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>>563513312
cute jeeta, made for my b w see
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>>563513368
>only one bull
>only one cuckening target
Meh.
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>>563511642
it's called lolibaba you uncultured swine
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>>563514108
Why are they so damn rare, BROS?! It kills me.
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>>563497570
I was uninterested on this until I read your post. Thanks!
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>>563497570
Why are you so mad about this man? It's in the fucking tags RIGHT THERE.
>inb4 "I can't recognize the japanese word for netorare"
Then you deserve to get cucked.
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>Been playing RJ01499436 demo for a while
>Killing mobs will drop equipment with random properties
>Good properties such as [+Atk lv1], [+MP lv1], [Passive recover HP per turn lv1] etc
>But there're also a shit ton of negative lewd related properties such as [+Passive lewd per move lv1], [Reduce orgasm threshold lv1], [Increase enemy likehood of H attack lv1] etc
>In the workshop you can combine two pieces of equipment into one which puts ALL the properties of one piece of equipment into another
>Combining 2 lv1 will make it a lv2 passive, combining 2 lv2 will make it a lv3 etc

>A few hours have gone by
>Finally beat the demo after doomstacking all my shit with level 3~4 passives while avoiding touching anything with negative passives
>Nothing else to do. Time to experiment with the negative lewd properties
>Turns out equipping gears with lewd passive will also spawn all these heart tattoos on your body
>Hot as fuck
>Those lewd tattoos also become more and more opaque as you level the negative traits from lv 1 to 2 to 3 etc
>Taking those gears off will also remove the tattoos so they're not permanent
>Took a walk in the dungeon with these cursed gears on
>Passive 50% orgasm increase means she cum herself every 2 turns in battle
>Everytime she came she also lactate 10% of her MP
>0 resistance to harassment/rape
>The MC takes a break and masturbates after every single battle

>https://litter.catbox.moe/z0t28d.jpg

This game instantly became one of my most anticipated upcoming games in 2026.
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>>563513115
female sensei x male student just ends up with gangbangs
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You just know if a vanillafag shits on an NTRge then you're in for an NTRKINO ge.
I really think that retard is an NTRfag vanillalarper.
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>>563513458
Geronimo is not an indian Indianian, shes an honest cardplayer idainionamericandian.
Ashoka is the often always topless jeeta1

What was going through their heads and why did they make the indian girl the 'its a part of her culture to have her tits out' girl? Is there really a land of topless brown girls out there in the wild?
https://litter.catbox.moe/xigg3s6ts3757g2a.jpg
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>>563514737
>she cum herself every 2 turns
women are so lucky
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>>563514950
>a land of topless brown girls out there in the wild
Sure, in black Africa it used to be the case in villages.
Not the case for amerindians though.
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>>563514737
>look at circle's previous works
>ASMRslop
Instant kusoge. I guarantee it.
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>>563515096
>bashing ASMRkino
>conjuring a nonexistent scenario
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>>563515381
ASMR circles cannot make good games.
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>>563515096
That, or it's gonna have some ingradible sfx fro all the h action.
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>>563514737
>Sounds good
>Let's check the page
>All those non-ningen scene on preview
>And Futa
No thank you
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>ASMR circle
>try making ge
>RPGmaker slop
>bloated to over 10GB from all the wav files
>sell as-is
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>>563514936
if there's something NTRfags love more than NTR itself it's shitposting
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how is this "loli"? She has fat hag tits, is fat, and also tall.
Can you turn her into a cute, small flat chested white girl or something? Aka fix her?
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>>563515979
We know it's you futahomo
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>>563516076
She's not the loli, the side characters are lolis.
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>>563515979
Yeah, it's just the best fetish for it. Even the occasional futaretard doesn't have as much shitposting power as an NTR tourist.
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>>563515961
futa is so gay i just dont get it
like i don't want to see more cocks

I will forgive it if its futa on NORMAL female, that's fine. its just one cock, whatever. I expect that
but add in extra cocks and the gay factor skyrockets
>>563516186
Real? There are side characters?
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ss where?
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>>563516186
>put the ugliest character on promo page
Is this a good marketing strategy? I thought Japs were supposed to be smart?
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>>563516348
SS might be the gayest thing ever
not only do you have an ugly old hag, but you have a small shrimp dicked boy involved and he's not even dressed in panties and a skirt and being raped by old men
I don't get it
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>>563516348
The fuck is the point of this game if it's just gonna bait ss constantly but never do it?
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>>563516218
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>>563516423
He says, when he clearly doesn't even know what SS means. Sad!
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>>563516186
>>563516392
yeah I was going to entirely skip out on this game after looking at a few dlsite preview images, since the character just looks awful. But if there are proper characters? Not fat ugly ones?
>>563516479
Wow that's crazy, what the fuck...
>>563516486
everybody knows what straight shota means
it means shota x woman
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Shota is fine if the partner is JK
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>>563516423

Megrim bros...
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>>563516423
SS is hot only if the shota is sadistic and has a bigger cock than average for his age.
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>>563514737
Is it possible to make her grow pubes? No? Won't play, then.
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only acceptable shota is when he is an adult looking exactly like me
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>>563516790
I can forgive that but its still pretty shit
>>563516895
Yes
>>563516665
No
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I'd play shotage if there was no shota
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>shota has bigger cock than me
wtf bros
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ss is a fetish made for women anyway, or gay men, it's focusing on the male character after all
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>>563517083
Indianbro...
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You gaylords would rather play as a woman getting fucked by every goblin and dog than as a kid fucking every woman he sees.
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>>563508317
You play any VTuberge lately?
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Which is the best outfit for lolis and why is it micro bikini?
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>>563517113
One of the most pathetic femcfag cope + lie posts I've seen in a while. Good work, totally-not-insecure anon.
>>563517134
That's shrimple. This general does have a disgusting handful of femc histronics.
>>563517205
Negligee. Sundress (not at the same time).
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>>563517134
I want to be a large ojisan.
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>>563517134
Huh? I don't like that either though. Why are you assuming that you know me?
I prefer moderately handsome and decently well built 30-year-olds paired with cute lolis.
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>>563517141
Don't make me post her IRL face again you /vt/ard.
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>>563517205
Spats
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Erogaki is the only acceptable Shota.
Plain harmless gaki is gay
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>>563517113
Every time a fetish triggers retards, it's "made for women" or "gay men", I've seen that for ntr, rape, and now /ss/, it's funny how it's so predictable lol.
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I don't understand why anyone likes shota
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ALICE BLOB SAVE US!
SAVE US ALICE BLOB!
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>>563515096
>>563515961
>>563516802
This shit right here is exactly why nobody tries to starts a game discussion in this general anymore.
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>>563510135
It was all a dream.
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>>563517651
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what the fuck did they do to pixiv, why can't i search by 18+ content only?
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ok ok so where are the shotaxloli games? shotaragers needn't apply
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>>563517750
It was?
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>>563517789
go to settings and put japan in everything
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>>563517507
That kid is Chinese.
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>>563517528
For [femc] ntr that makes sense. Doesn't for rape or ss.
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>>563517507
Did the artist have an aneurysm when doing this guy's hair?
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>>563517789
???
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>>563518001
>For [my fetish] it makes sense, it doesn't for [other fetish].
Please be serious anon.
NTR is for women is as much of a meme as "women can enjoy rape fantasies therefore it's a female only fetish" and "women love shota because they're cute therefore it's a female only fetish".
It's overall just dumb: facts is that male players enjoy these fetish, rest is armchair retarded psychology.
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>>563517930
i have full access to 18+ content, that's not what i'm wondering. there used to be a big button for searching for only 18+ content, it's gone and i can't filter sfw from nsfw without fucking around with tags and that's only if the person tagged it as r-18

>>563518045
that's how it used to look, but i don't have the option to filter sfw from nsfw anymore and the site has been updated along with a new logo
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>>563518027
bird shota
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>>563516423
quintessentially sandgger/msonic(gay) post
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>>563517507
What about the "leader" shota who teases his crush but ends up getting embarrassed when teased back?
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FeMCGODS owns this general btw.
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>>563518508
>faggots own this general
You're right
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>>563518508
gb2/vn/ retard
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>>563517464
You wouldn't dare, pussy ass bitch.
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>>563517528
what did you expect from a thread full of autistic anons? they're literally unable to understand why would anyone would enjoy any fetish they don't
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We don't need more NTRGEs, or SSGEs or FUTAGEs, we need more BRAPGEs
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>>563518641
Non sequitur. You're trying to shoehorn in a grievance you have into somewhere it doesn't belong.
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>>563518508
Fuck yeah
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>>563518641
Truth nuke.
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JKs
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>>563518508
Wrong
you're a tranny
MaleMChads RISE UP
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>>563518858
Lovelovelove my magical wife who got me into H-RPGs.
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>>563518858
what the hell lmao
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>>563518858
>>563518960
Gross old hags.
So goddamn disgusting.
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>>563518960
WHERE GAMES WITH JK DOING ENKOU REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>563518960
GOD I wish Orgy Dice wasn't so shit.
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>>563518960
god damn she's hot
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>>563519173
soon
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For me it's: lolis; hags; JS; JC; JK; JD; OL; magical girls; adventurers; nuns; FeMC; MaleMC; NTR; lovey dovey; rape; ningen; goblin; tentacle; futa; shota; ojisan; and every other fetish under the sun. Except scat, scatfags can eat my shit (they would like that)
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>>563519927
Sequelbros...why so much hate!
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>>563515096
RJ265923 was done by an ASMR circle and it was fantastic
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only fumika could purge this thread of evils
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>>563519927
based, though I'd add piss scat and hairy bodies to the list of "anons can enjoy these all they want, I'll ignore this game"
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>>563520062
>hairy bodies
wot
bestiality?
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>>563520004
>femdom
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Girls should be the ones getting raped and not the other way around.
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>>563520176
ultra slut stories where they end up having armpit hair, leg hair etc
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>>563520485
Why?
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I like vanilla
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>>563520573
>corruption story
>the girl becomes tanner
>and more unkempt
>starts caring less about manners or what she wears
>introduced to drinking
>boobs get bigger, probably gained weight
>talks more like a man and a delinquent
>wears a perpetual grin
>becomes violent
>may even get hairier
>sometimes they even grow a dick
...Isn't this just ugly bastard transformation?
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>>563520004
>fantastic
it's a piece of shit
worse than a cg collector
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>>563520878
lol
I hate it, I'd rather have corruption making her hotter than either becoming an unkempt ugly girl or yamanba like atrocity
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>>563520632
It isn't normal or natural for a woman to physically overpower a man. Femdom is stupid.
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>>563521058
MOOOOOOOOOODS
I SEE NIPPLES AND GENITALS
MY VIRGIN EYES AHHHHHHH
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>>563521097
>expecting logic from an hgame
couldn't be me
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>>563521097
>fictional porn must be realistic because I say so
lol
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>>563521097
how original
what's next, you're gonna tell us the scenarios are always the same?
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>falling for animeposter bait
>>
>falling for anime
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>falling
>>
>falling
>>
>
>>
ge?
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>[Deleted]
kek
jannies are so unreliable
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>>563520004
All the women in this look sickly and unwashed, and they have man hips. True femdom horror.
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>getting upset over Rindou

Pathetic
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>>563517507
What about bully homophobe gaki who calls a femboy a faggot and gets insta loss pleasure corrupted?
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>>563521215
>>563521292
>>563521294
This is what happens when you drink tap water without proper filtering and consume too much microplastics. You start to like the idea of being dominated and become submissive yourself as a female should. In a way, you're not too far from taking a step towards becoming a full fledged tranny.
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>>563521980
Me near bottom left
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>>563521097
what if she uses level drain?
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ge where I can fuck my auntie?
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>>563522134
>playing the tranny card this quick
It's over
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>>563522134
>fumika post
>it isn't shit
/rare/
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>>563522134
Fumika is wise and knows
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>RJ01580446
Where the fuck is my trapge?
Why is there no trapge?
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>>563522474
RJ01264534?
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Hey bros, I’m trying to find this visual novel I saw in a video but I forgot the name.
It had multiple game overs scenes that were pretty gory, involved the female protagonist getting mutilated in some way. One particular scene involved her getting her heart ripped out and being forcibly pumped until she died. The characters were always enveloped by black/red glitch particles in these game overs sequences. Anyone have any ideas?
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>>563522583
You sure it was a VN and not an ACT game?
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>Wolf dungeon is now locked behind ci-en password
what the fuck
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>>563522563
Sex with female is not the point of trapge
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>>563522583
her heart was forcibly pumped, or she was?
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ges for this feel?
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>>563522823
Heart. I remember another girl forcibly reached into her chest cavity and squished her heart repeatedly until she burst
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Is there a VNDB equivalent for h-games or am I just shit outta luck?
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>>563483925
>antagonist possesses one of the girls and gets a train ran on him
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>>563522583
Oh and it was a pretty sci-fi esque setting
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Contribute to ShinEraTensei.
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>>563522137

Just like me
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>>563522583
wrong general BWO
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>>563523890
NTA but to be fair to him he never would've gotten a response out of the shithole that is /vn/
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>>563523108
Nepchan
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>>563524136
that's only for rpgmaker games not h games
while there's overlap those are two entirely different groups
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>>563483925
Game where shota or trap character wears a chastity cage? I'm fine even if it's just a few scenes.
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>>563524908
Anon's Life.
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>>563523098
why did she do it?
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RJ01368408
You think adding the omake cost them sales or gained them sales?
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>>563522134
Based, femcggers melty hearing this trvke!
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>>563484019
what did she won?
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>>563502865
I'd like the game more if I could disable the fucking popup for every single time I took damage. Make it a threshold or something I don't need to see it every time I get dinked for 1 damage.
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>Blatant /qa/ lingo
>Again
NOTICING!
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Notice this,
*rapes you*
Daijoubu?
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>>563526476
This is how we say hello in /hgg2d/
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Let's talk about games.
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>>563526842
>Listen, all men are perverts. Anybody who's not is gay or lying.
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>>563497570
>Made a thread on /v/ about accidentally downloading an NTR game
>Still seething about getting cucked days later
lmao
>>>/v/736784170
>>>/v/736784379
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>>563527024
Gottem.
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>>563527024
>copypasted the shit he already posted here once
Embarrassing
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>>563527096
cry more tourist
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>>563526842
she looks vaguely mexican
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>>563527024
This fag is 100% one of those tards having a melty on every NTR doujin comment section.
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>>563527195
Anon I'm talking about the guy who made the thread you posted not your post. Keep up.
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>whats the best way to insult the subhuman shit muncher that brought out エリィは村の共有妻 RJ01559937 ?
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What am I supposed to do when there's no ge?
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>>563527296
this guy is so fucking retarded
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>>563527331
Replay your old kinoges?
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>WHAT SUBHUMAN GETS OFF TO THAT SHIT
>THE AUTOR NEED TO BE SHOT
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>>563527296
her tits are pretty saggy
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>>563527448
Post the male blob room.
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>>563527537
Optimum sag for that size. I hate gravity defying balloon tits.
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i'm too tired after work to masturbate...
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>>563526842
The other dude before this confused me because this entire image is Japanese, humans don't usually have purple eyes and her hair isn't standard human gradients either.
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Loli games?
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>>563527537
Sag is good for tits as long as the nipples still point up. If the nipples are pointing down she's way past her expiration date.
Remember this motto, it will could your life. Nipples up, you're clear to fuck. Nipples to the ground, time to put her down.
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>>563527638
no, i mean that they look like bags attached to the body
instead of being a part of it, if that makes sense
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>>563527791
Yeah, no.
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>>563527897
Sounds like all breasts
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Is Littlewitch Romanesque a fun game or should I not bother?
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>elf imouto dev posted on ci-en
>yeah I totally was working on the game, here's some more backgrounds
>alll look AI generated
>links directly to the dlsite storepage
nigga thinks his audience are femMCs level of stupid
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>>563527973
this whore keeps masturbating when i'm in the house, how am i supposed not to rape her in her sleep?
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Sister NTR never made sense anyway
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>>563528068
japs literally are retarded
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>>563528167
How so?
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>>563526842
ge? Rimjob will only be delivered after I receive the goods.
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>>563528167
sister NTR is the hottest form of NTR
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>>563523108
vndb already has every h-games that matters anyway
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>>563527797
this made me think
we have tit jobs, even nipple jobs and all
but does any hgame have underboob jobs? wouldn't it be like an armpit job? just under the boobs instead
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>>563528306
No one should care about their sister having sex
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>>563484019
I gave it a short try and noticed the scenes are pretty much the same between humans or goblins and the like. Is that a constant throughout the whole game?
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You love to see it.
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>>563528893
Half-true, I mean wouldn't you care if your sister somehow dates a nig?
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>>563527024
LMAO
Yeah this guy is an absolute downie retard. What an embarrassing state of affairs.
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>>563528167
I'd rather impreg my sister
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>he keeps adding even more girls to his already 5 girl NTRge

How do we cure this stupidity?
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>>563529202
what game
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>>563529202
what's the context of this scene?
he doesn't want to cum inside her?
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>>563529024
Eyes not far apart enough.

>>563528068
I wish there was more of her ge, in general. Perhaps with her boss together too.
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>>563529024
game?
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>>563529484
calling it a game is being generous
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>>563529024
>7 cm
haha, that's a small pp
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Die inbred incestniggers.
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>>563529616
Will she fuck other girls with that clit?
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>>563528861
Sequel kludge has one. Yes, it’s like an advanced armpitjob.
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>>563529574
I will be the one to decide that
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>>563530117
i don't believe you
post it
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JK compensated dating eroges doko?
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Surely my sister is just getting a deep tissue massage, nothing out of the ordinary here at all.
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>>563529030
No, it's her life, I don't care what she does
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>>563530270
as if any JK would ever do that, right?
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>>563530962
this looks like a mom pretending to be one
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Where is Clymenia... why does she betray like anon's childhood friend...
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>>563530962
apparently but not out of necessity
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I betrayed my childhood friend actually
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Where's Monicablob
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>>563531887
regenerate this slop, Amanebro
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>>563531887
Compensated marriage with Amane.
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>>563530270
>compensated dating
Isn't that just dating?
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>>563531806
*brap*
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>>563530191
Go look at the CGs on the panda.
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>>563532053
yes but uglies like him need to pay way more lol
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>amane vs flode
who wins
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Enishia best.
Mommy shark.
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Name a more iconic duo than an elf and an orc.
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My waifu and I
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>>563532412
Childhood friends and losing
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>>563532142
Many such cases with anal.
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If this is not Uber kino Im holding the shark fanboys accountable.
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>>563533467
bro your mod?
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>>563531038
That just makes it hotter, games like that?
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>>563533841
Isn't the mod just an unbalanced mess?
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>>563534106
it's balanced for extra difficulty and most of features can be disabled which leaves you with extra items/debuffs/clothes etc.
unless you also pair it with nightmare difficulty it's still super manageable. if you've never played the base game maybe leave if for a second playthrough
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>>563533841
Only fixed the Mouth 0/0 bug and changed the font because the default cuts sentences off. Gotta love the f95chads
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Kissless virgin runs are fun.
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childhoodfriendposter sucks futa cock when no one is looking
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>>563533373
Does it actually plays a fart sfx?
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RJ388166 just got a Steam release
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>>563534945
monica queefs quite a bit in this game, it was probably the dev's fetish.
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>>563535217
Picked the fuck up, thanks anon.
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>>563535217
made for innkeeper
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STOP POSTING DEAD DEVS!!
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>563535363
I am not posting clymenia tho
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>>563535363
sorry, I'm just a bit ILL
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>>563536014
>I'm just a little under the weather bro
>last online 15 years ago
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https://voca.ro/1wQSOcFjIBg6
hgame for this feel?
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>>563534463
I guess that's why your doing one irl lmao
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>>563536079
>no comedy fart sound at the end
wtf is this shit
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I only play hagge
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>>563536774
I only play loli or hagge and nothing inbetween.
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I only play brapges
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>>563534463
is she ready to settle down anon?
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I only like hags that drink pre mixed cocktails/beer out of cans and then go pahhh~
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>>563535363
What do you mean? I'm sure the release date will be announced any second now.
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>>563537547
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>>563536774
Based.
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>>563537547
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>>563537757
hagges should have more braps and burps, old women do that a lot.
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Clymenia is like a childhood friend.
Liz was my first eroge, but Clymenia betrayed now.
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>>563537978
Woah they're just like me
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Oh, another vanilladev is cooking an NTRge
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>>563538118
Optional NTR to be clear. Also the sprites are hilariously busted.
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>>563538118
we keep on winning!
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>>563538235
Well yeah, it's a WIP
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>>563537978
No thanks.
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>>563531957
I gave him a better version but he refuses to use it
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>>563538791
better but her eyes still look like a mindbroken slut unless you specifically asked for that.
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>>563533467
Only the porn is fun, the combat gameplay is beyond awful.
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>>563539073
CG browse chads win again
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We need more NTS never betray kinoges, most are NTS to NTR and that's just wack.
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Put RJ01590589 in the next OP.
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>>563538979
>unless you specifically asked for that
I didn't ask for anything, I just redrew the parts that looked like ass. Here, I added some shine to the eyes.
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Thirsty…
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>>563540514
That's my wife.
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>>563531806
this one good?
it's been on my backlog for a while
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>>563540865
Don't bother, it's ntrshit
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>>563540514
the original had sovl
this is sovlless
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How often does this place get parodied as a level in h-games?
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>>563540742
I played the first two games and does the artist EVER draw them nude?
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is there an uncensor patch for machine child?
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>>563541093
I don't get indoor pools; they never look comfy and miss the point entirely, since the main point of wearing swimwear is to show off your body in public.
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>>563541320
is she an actual machine?
there's no nipples
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>>563541320
Ahahahahahahahahahaha.
It's not even an eroge.
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>>563541320
The child content restoration patch
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>>563534463
She looks like a bratty Amane.
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>>563534463
Why is she so fertile?
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>>563534463
Is there a strawberry blonde hair color?
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>>563541683
already have that applied, i can tell by the variety of clothes
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>>563541926
you can manually set hair color's saturation/hue/brightness levels to get any color you want
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absolute state of steambab lolikeks rn
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>>563535068
what's it about?
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>>563542045
Is that case she is not Florine best girl so no nipples for her.
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How is Volcano Princess?
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>>563542658
It's not an h-game. It's not even lewd at all.
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>>563542505
i guess i should sell her to the devil and buy a new one
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>>563542801
How did you meet demon? Never appeared in my run
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>>563542984
1. buy the cursed mask from the marchent (its in the very bottom of the list and costs 5k without discount
2. learn the 'magical studies' skill (its waaaay of to the right)
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>>563527024
>2 days of seething over a fucking game he could have stopped playing at any time
what a bitch
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these Machine Child screenies just make me want to replay Romanesque
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>>563544196
Maybe he's got a humiliation fetish
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>>563544196
He's actually so deeply into NTR he's roleplaying as a frustrated cuck who can't stop what's happening in front of him. He's gone so far into the role he even brought in two different boards just to act as the jeering audience that demeans him. He is a generational NTR sage far beyond our reckoning.
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>>563544196
look at any ntr doujin comment anon, it used to be flooded with edge lords like this with insane demented rants over the 50 pages (they read it all) of properly tagged "my girlfriend was stolen by someone else, ntr warning, it's ntr, did you know it's netorare!"
at this point it's just like picrel
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>>563544463
Yeah what people tend to forget is that this is the emotion NTR exists to invoke. It's been said that art should comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable, and in that respect NTR is the highest form of art. ART, if you will. I think that anon realizes this subconsciously which is why he's halfway there by calling it NRT.
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>>563540865
Yeah, it's a like 70/30 split between pure vanilla and cuck shit, the only way you'll ever see any of it is if you're actively trying to be cucked. It's pretty hard to trigger rape scenes by "accident" unless you legit don't know how the game works (dice rolls that get worse the more horny you get). The vanilla scenes are also super hot unless you hate pussy farting.
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>>563545473
>NTR is the highest form of art
Someone write this one down in the history books
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>>563545473
the only emotion it invokes in me is lust, not this insane bitchy childish reaction
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>>563545610
>unless you hate pussy farting
worse than ntr
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>>563545610
>farting
ok I'll avoid this, I'm not interested in brap stuff at all
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>>563545610
>The vanilla scenes are also super hot unless you hate pussy farting.
Wait so no queefing on the NTR scenes?
>>563545791
fag
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Reminder that with the release of slay the spire 2, we are getting another decade of deck builders.
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>>563546184
no we're not
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>>563546184
I fucking love cardKINO, can almost turn sts itself into an h-game with the right mods.
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>>563546184
Why would I not just play StS2 instead of a shitty copy of it?
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>>563547540
ADVERTISER-SAMA GET THE FUCK DOOOOOOOOOOOOWN!!!!
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>>563547540
SNIFFFF
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>>563547540
abayo anon-chan
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>>563547540
Huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh!?
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>>563546184
We got deckbuilder kino before slay the shit 2 tho
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>>563545614
Already there, it's called Ancient Greek Literature.
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>>563545473
NTR is a state of helplessness. That's why other types of NTR exist that don't even involve a romantic partner. Mom NTR, sister NTR, childhood friend NTR. While no "cheating" has occurred, the essence of "NTR-ness" remains nonetheless, because it represents the cuck's lack of control over events. Thus we can say NTR exists in helplessness.

If NTR is art, which comforts the disturbed and disturbs the comfortable, then helplessness is the means by which it does this. NTR exists to render the comfortable helpless, and make the helpless comfortable.

So we can explain this >>563544950 phenomenon very simply.
The reader, once secure in himself, has consumed something he hates.
He has lost control of the situation. This is NTR.

The art is not only in the game, but the player's reaction to the game, which itself is where NTR is truly found. If a developer made an NTR game, but nobody noticed or felt that it was NTR, it would not be NTR. It would only be labeled NTR. Similarly, if a developer made a game that caused unsuspecting players to feel that helpless, desperate rage, even if it wasn't labeled NTR, it would be NTR.
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>>563540742
Prim's prims
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>>563541198
He started drawing more nude girls recently, starting with L.Depth. Thirst has a fuckload of nude scenes.
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>>563547540
imagine the underboob job
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>>563548093
Just say you want to be a cuck brotatochip.
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>>563549060
Actually I prefer netori.
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SLGs should have shaving mechanics
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I wish someone made an ExS-TIA beat em up
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Am I a woman in spirit if I only like male protagonist pure love games?
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>>563549347
I wish they did a corruption rpg with multiple evil ends.
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Update doko?
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>>563549347
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>>563549518
That'd be the dream, why hadn't Lusterise done that?
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>>563549327
something like shavestate you mean?
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>>563546184
games that aren't 4 niggas in a row dragon quest clones are basically the equivalent to a nuclear bomb for japanese game development. imagine what will happen when they discover factorio-likes.
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>open japanese h-game
>press maximize button at the top right thinking it's just gonna fill the screen but stay windowed
>both monitors go black and the game tries to change my monitor resolution to a blurry 800x240 resolution with exclusive fullscreen, which then renders the game unplayable and I have to use my kill program button to stop it's reign of terror
sasuga japanese devs
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>>563551001
at least recent rpgm don't do that shit anymore
this is an unfortunate consequence of Japan not being a country of pc users
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>>563551001
This is why I only use magpie or losslessscaling
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>>563551271
>magpie or losslessscaling
do these even work with the wonky old engines jp devs sometime use?
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>>563548093
Basado, truth.
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>>563549347
This bitch really reminds me of Hotaru from HSR.
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>>563547984
I'd play an Odyssey-inspired NTR game made by Pick.
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>>563549347
There are already beatem ups without the shitty characters and premise of barrel-bottom nukige
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>>563549487
You're regular and healthy. "woman in spirit" would be highly likely if you're into femc and NTR. Buhi~
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these fags hating on queefs are showing that they have never touched a woman IRL
that shit just happens depending on the angle/position you're thrusting
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bro gets off to farts lmao
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I don't like it and it rarely happens because the ladies I circle are slender and non gaseous. We don't count slick body mechanics here.
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>>563555086
Why would anyone want to touch a woman IRL? Have you seen what they look like nowadays all tattooed up and fat?
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>>563555086
>Thinking people want 3DPD realism in hentai
I think WEGs are more up your alley
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>dick so big that even air has to escape
KINO
Of course hgg2ggers saars can't relate
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>>563555086
what irl unavoidable mess has to do with me liking it or not?
I don't like handjobs irl, but I think they look insanely hot in games
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>>563555086
It's true. Anal queefs happen too, they're not farts. It's just literally noise that happens from the plapping
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>>563555815
>>563555952
My brothers from another mother, I have been saying it for a while, we need more braps, queef and burps in eroge.
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Braps are saar-coded
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>>563556147
I don't care about them. But they happen during sex, it's inevitable. I bet anons here don't even know about the Skene gland either.
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That's futa thoughbeit
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>>563555086
Just because reality is messy doesn't mean I need to bring the messiness in games for realism sake.
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does anyone have the new shoku? I know people don't seem to like him much around here but the games are a guilty pleasure for me
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>>563556581
But messiness is humiliating, just imagine this scene, a noble woman knight can't stop queefing from the big penis of her rapist which makes her embarrassed of her own body.
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I love boobs seen from below
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>>563556887
I love Frieren
I want to rape her
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>>563556973
That's not what Himmel would do.
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>>563556846
It doesn't work for me, the same as nose hooks or getting nose piercings or or behaving like a dog or forcing her to shit on the spot and so on.
I'd rather her fucked silly.
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>>563557036
Himmel's a fag who couldn't make a move
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>>563556887
I love Frieren
I want her to rape me
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>>563557036
Himmel woudn't, but Pimmel would
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>>563557058
>I'd rather her fucked silly.
While queefing
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>>563510246
you are all mentally ill here
its nothing new on /vg/ but the hopitality on this dogshit general is on another level
the world is a better place without you cretins in it
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any ge where the futa forces protag to eat his own dick?
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>>563556887
>Frieren fotm slop poster
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>the mini event where you can level up her anus so that she farts your cum out further and further
truly in a realm of its own.
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>>563511034
>play
>/vn/
retard vn are not games
even nips call them sofuto
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sex
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>>563557202
I am not the one threatening to kill someone over fiction.
Again, seek help.
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>>563557314
What the fuck? I don't remember this, did the game get a DLC or something?
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>>563555086
>muh real wahmen
Nobody wants that shit
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>>563511298
>>563511325
KEK
KEK
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>>563557314
I don't even understand what i'm looking at
is she being torn in two and twisted ?
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>>563557385
God I love pinks.
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>>563557454
A fair amount of scenes require you to have not only high corruption (aka failing at the one mechanic the game has) but also winning a dice roll at the same time (when your rolls are debuffed) so they're really hard to find.
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>>563557463
I like real women too but man is he right
it reminds me of people complaining that boobs are unrealistic in fiction (her back should hurt) and the woman shouldn't look like she just got out from the hairstylist
bitch it's a fucking idealized version of people, of course it's unrealistic, that's the point
and they smell like roses too
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I follow too many ci-en profiles, should probably trim some follows.
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>>563514434
cuck lol
>>563514678
are you stupid or just pretending
nrt is from the perspecive of the cucker so you can feel badass or some degenerte shit nrt troons feel
but it is told in the view of the brother
and it the story is streched so you feel and get into role of the brother
only to get cucked by ugly fat bastard
i can understand that you want to be the badass cucker but what mentall ill subhuman ape gets off the the story of a cucked brother?
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>>563557314
My favorite part is the fags who went into denial claiming its not an NTR game when over half the scenes are NTR kek
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>>563507760
>>563508490
>>563511220
Who?
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>>563555086
>defiling your chinpo with real MESU
Bro is never getting into msgk heaven. Gave up his doutei zako power.
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>>563557739
You gotta get off the internet for a while man. This is just sad.
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>>563529135
>>563527249
>>563527096
>>563527024
>>563544196

lol you are a cuck tranny and your mothers eats my shit every day lol
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>>563557690
Realism at all costs is what kills games in general, not just eroge.
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>>563557739
>nrt
Bro is so afraid of NTR that he doesn't even want spell it right HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA
And now he is having a 20+ post melty, holy queer HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>563557661
I see, I remember fully unlocking the gallery after I got the true ending to see if I missed something but I still don't remember the stuck in the wall scene having variants, I guess there was more to the game than I thought, the final scene where she wears that sexy lingerie was the best the game had to offer though, she comes out from it queefing cum from all of her holes, really hot game and I like that the player is rewarded handsomely for not letting her turn into a slut for the innkeeper
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>>563557916
>insulting my mom
Post your hand and prove you aren't indian RIGHT NOW
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what's with the "nrt" term?
is it some meta I've missed?
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>>563557407
ok mentally ill retard
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>>563497570
Actual cuck behavior
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>>563557739
Retard, you are confusing netori for netorare. You really need to learn what words mean.
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why do people always bring up real women in regards to anime and hentai shit. if i cared about real women and what they do i wouldnt be watching or playing hentai i would just watch real porn of which there is an abundance.
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>>563555086
Dont bring realism into hentai man, vice versa too.
I like those very rare 'eating out a girl who had whip cream/other sweet substance poured on/inside her pussy' kinda scenarios but you no shit no one would want to do that shit irl because an innumerable amount of issues.
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>>563557751
It should have been 90% NTR to be good.
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>>563558058
I am not the one having a meltdown over fiction.
You should really get off the internet for a couple of weeks and take a breather.
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whoever said this shit sucked was unfortunately right
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>want to fap
>ok art lets check out
>huge sister brother plot with long ass story
>perfect ground for incest kino
>chapter 2
>ugly bastard best friend secretly bangs your sister and makes you pay for his booze
i want to kill that piece of shit
i feel cucked
i hate nrt
what subhuman gets off to that shit?
the autor need to be shot
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>>563557953
Kills fetishes too.
Shuffle went from drawing traps with female proportions
https://exhentai.org/s/60950bc3b6/1456212-1
to drawing man bodies (all his recent stuff)
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>>563557739
I'm not even into ntr but you make me understand when ntrfags talk about excessive reactions.
You should stop, it's been days you've had a continuous meltdown over a fucking fetish.
Dude, get help or something.
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Anyone here ever play Immortal loss? is it good? I've been itching for a good eroge since VQ2 and thirst's translations are taking a while to come out
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It is the futafag btw, derailing the thread with NTR false flags like always.
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>>563558109
Normalfags and zoomers can't see fumikas in their head and lack the ability to separate reality from fumikas.
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>>563558351
Many notice this.
"wegkino"posting nowhere to be seen too, coinkadink?? I thonk nit!
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>Futarager this desperate
Kiss Your Sister.
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>>563558376
I once dreamt that fumika cast a fireball at me. What does it mean?
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>>563558227
what kind of subhuman produces this kind of dogshit and what kind of mentally ill trann plays and pays for this dogshit?
author needs to be shot hang and burned at the same time desu
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>>563558443
Yep, same old formula.
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>>563558214
How are the succubus best girl scenes?
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>>563558214
>4.06
kek
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i need an end where this son of a bitch gets butchered
AAAAAAA
alongside the degenerate author
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>>563558214
>age: ufufu
The fuck does that mean?
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>>563558752
ULTRA HAG, like centuries old hag
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why is he still seething
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>>563558824
HOLY SEX
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>>563558227
Is this a new greentext or are you clinically retarded for real?
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>>563557281
why are troons like this
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>>563558752
>>563558824
ufufu is older than ara ara
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>>563558846
He is going to triple down because he got called out >>563558351
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>>563558752
she's middle aged or more and you don't ask the age of women in general, even less when they're > 30

also as always I feel like that a game like this 10 years would have made the gyaru 16, this almost looks like it was made for steam in advance
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>>563558214
Gyaru Amane.
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Post your usual wegshilling already, we know it's you.
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>>563559004
>>563558443
But WEG was already mentioned and of course you ignore this, samefagging schizo: >>563555568
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>>563558970
It's a chink game, they've always been 18+fags
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What is the definition of a hag? I know a cake is a childless unmarried women, but what qualifies as a hag? Older than 30?
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>>563559109
No thanks I'm not joining your raid retard.
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>>563559170
>chink game
oh that's why, yeah in that case it makes sense
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>>563559261
When will this dev ever make a new game, I enjoyed her stuff so far.
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>>563559261
It's kind of a "know it when you see it" kinda thing. I'd define it as
>out of the peak of fertility but more mature
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>563559082
trying too hard loool
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>>563559109
you're one pathetic anon
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He…looks like me
He’s…built like me
I…thank you
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563559109
Calling for a raid? uhoh anon, that's a no no
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>can't even reply properly schizo is active
talk and post an awful lot like nrtfag tbhfamdesu
nooticing
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>>563559261
If a teenager might guess she's someone's mom rather than someone's older sister, then she's a hag.
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>>563559261
hot jaded bitches
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ryuu would never blob me right? he wouldn't betray...
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>>563559109
Alright I thought you were larping up until now but then I see this. You're genuinely a huge faggot, please shut off your internet forever.
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>563559507
>pot calling kettle black
he lack of self awareness is astounding
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>>563559507
Saar try again in inglish
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I know there's a schizo meltdown going on but what's the most fucked up shit you've seen in an h-game?
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>>563559365
she makes good games but a bit too vanilla for me, and I will never forgive her for making a cute loli version of a character but doing nothing with it
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>>563559757
Look above you, newfag.
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>>563559668
Click on the 3 points and report him for abusive language and threats (the second option).
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I HEREBY DECLARE FUMIKA HOURS
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>>563559668
>lets
No. Kys.
>>563559614
Based.
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>>563559261
One more game where the secondary character is even hotter.
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>>563559809
Intestine fucking
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>>563559817
english too hard right saar?
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>>563559809
-ackika's "art"style.
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>>563559593
I wanted to grab RJ01276389 but figured Ryuu was just a scraper and didnt check the files
So I grabbed it on fag95 via viking file link and it gave a warning and a comment mentioned it trying to start background tasks
Not sure if I wanna grab it on ryuu now
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>>563558554
You, apparently.
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>>563559940
Oh you're expressing your inner-monologue. Cool but perhaps keep it to yourself, retard.
>>563560025
What boards even have/allow 4 uma generals?
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>>563560025
>i ruined uma generals across 4 boards
show proof or u gay nigger lol
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>>563560025
surely you can leave and handle this herculean task on your own then
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>>563560025
>begs from general to raid
Ok bro, nice larp.
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>563559614
zoomers learning about eroge was a mistake
this is sad
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>anon have a meltdown because he can't read synopsis or tag
Ntrchads we keet winning
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Vishnu was disappointed today...
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>>563560282
Yep, can't imagine this nigga with other NTRGEs where the NTR happens like 8 hours into the game kek.
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Every NTR ge score by default has +0.3 bonus modifier because a lot stupid Anti-NTR fan bomb the score
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At this rate the title of the next thread is gonna be
>taking the bait edition
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are we at the level of sending threats to devs because we don't like the advertised fetish of their game?
are we fag95 now?
I'm disappointed in you
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>>563560384
I fused vishnu with shiva after raping both of them into mindbroken whores so I could make a harihara.
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>>563560545
fag95ers will just ask for MTLs, NTR? and android ports
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>>563560545
It's literally a fag95er soo....
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>>563560662
save?
full save?
gallery save?
update?
need a hero
hero?
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>>563560537
>dude has multiple days meltdown in multiple threads
>sends threats to a dev
>"haha it's a bait"
it doesn't matter if it is bait or not, it looks like a duck, it quacks like a duck...
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>>563560282
The title of the game is like Communal Village Wife too. The mutt somehow got 3 hours in but couldn't read the first thing you see.
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>>563560662
there are those but you've never seen ntr or loli or more rarely rape meltdowns there I think
same immature shit
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>>563560723
If they ask for a full save just go
>here bro [game link with a crypto miner in it]
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>>563560545
>we
No, this guy isn't one of us.
We h-game enjoyers may fight sometimes, but not even the most depraved bottom-feeding manuel among us would stoop to this level.
I disown him, disavow him, denounce him, and spit in his direction. Tfu, tfu.
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>>563560846
>not a timed payload that install downloads THP
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>>563560662
is the ntr avoidable for "ntr, the game, the ntring of ntr on ntrland with ntr wife" by ntr dev?
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>>563560282
CUUUUUUUUUUCK
HAHAHAHAHHAHAAH FUCKING CUUUUUUUUUUUUCK FAGGOT HAHAHAH
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>>563560837
I remember quite a few ntr and loli retarded takes indeed lol
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>>563561008
>game titled "the enwhorification of the noble princess to the orcs and goblins"
>guy asks "this got rape in it?" in broken english
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>game has amazing art
>its fucking futa
GODDAMNIT
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>>563560943
You are underage and need to grow a penis. There's no comraderie in making a post in a mongolian basket weaving forum.
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>download a game
>it comes with the uploaders save files
is this NTR? am I being NTRd by the uploader giving me his filthy seconds or am I NTRing the uploader by corrupting his save file and feMC?
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>>563560545
You really hit the nail on the head, it's always the vanillaniggers (obviously they're newfags) with their ESLposting.
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>基本的な部分はシンプルなので特にイベント逃したりはしないですがやはり本作最大の特徴である「すでに寝取られた後」と言う部分がありこの辺は好き嫌いが分かれると思います
I kinda get it
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>>563549724
Man, I have really mixxed feeling about this game. On one hand it's really unpolished and borderline schizophrenic. On the other hand the art is nice and erotic and there is a lot of systems and content that are fun to poke around with. It's absolutely not worth the price tag either way however.
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>>563560936
exactly
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>>563559809
U-room
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>>563559708
Why leave this up when you deeted the other 2 for personal information tranny janny? Cant you even delete right? They should pay you in face punches retard
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>game has amazing art
>its fucking futa
HOLY FUCKING KINO
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Well I know what game I'm playing tonight.
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>>563561241
Pretending to be retarded now? Ewww
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>>563559809
beheading scene in muvluv, but that's a vn
it's more the sheer surprise of it
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>>563559809
probably some feeding shit from either night of revenge or sinisistar where it's not even porn
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>>563559809
The fucking monster murder rape in evenicle. Seriously who the fuck gets off to that?
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I will fap to anon's sister tonight.
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>>563561507
Jokes on you I only have a brother now you are gay
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just play RJ01435937 instead
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>>563561579
I will give a sex change magical pill to your brother so he become your sister and rape her.
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Any more sisterge for us to partake in?
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>>563561008
>>563561154
Honestly I don't think they even read the first post or tags, they just use forums like it's discord, just writing whatever.
Sometime not even bothering to write in English.
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>>563561446
heard those games are all sorts of fucked up despite looking really vanilla
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>>563561186
>You are underage
I don't think he is and that's the most pathetic thing about it.
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Dude is truly mentally unwell, Jesus!
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>>563562002
It's an alicesoft game so expect some out of place hardcore guro or monster rape out of nowhere once or twice and then generally vanilla for the rest of the game. I don't think 2 is nearly as bad as 1 for it though.
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>>563562134
found the uma thread, you're kinda based at least kek
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what a baby
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>>563562309
What's "based" about being an immature piece of shit threatening others for his own insecurities?
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>pajeetanon got cucked by a game so badly that he harasses the dev and starts scatposting
Mental illness
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>>563562475
he shits on NTR and I share his ideals.
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This dumb faggot thinks he can conjure up even 1% of the despair that exists in the heart of an NTR dev.
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>>563562651
Ah I see, you're also mentally ill.
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>>563562739
Cope.
Wish he shits on futa as well for good measure.
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>>563561202
I'm actually on the border of buyfagging it the next time an update drops so I don't need to wait for weeks for an upload again. Sucks dicks that they nerfed the coupons to no longer work for it. Dev seems pretty dead though so who knows if we'll even get an update.
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>>563562831
I don't care what you like or don't like, being this insecure, sending death threats and shitting the thread is mental illness.
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>>563562667
If anything hes just gonna be compelled to make a game thats even harder with the NTR
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>>563562667
He lacks the understanding that NTR exists in helpless, frustrated rage. The angrier he gets, the more he becomes a cuck. As he becomes on the actions of another, they become his bull. The more he lashes out against NTR, the more he reshapes his life into an NTR story. We are witnessing NTR mindbreak in real life.
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>>563563143
>As he becomes on the actions of another,
becomes obsessed with*
fuck talking about NTR games is turning me into an ESL
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>>563562989
it's just what happens when you view things only in 'based' or 'cringe'
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>>563560404
>NTRGEs where the NTR happens like 8 hours into the game
Lemme guess, Pick's?
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Clymenia tasukete...!
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>>563560404
>where the NTR happens like 8 hours into the game kek.
I feel like I should be able to remember one, but I can't think of a game like this
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>>563563806
>>563564157
There are almost no games where ntr happens this far in the story. I played VNs with that premise, but the only rpgm one I can think of is Spiral Legend 5 (and maybe the earlier games, I didn't try them).
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>NTR isn't even announced
>Game is so obscure no one bothers to tag it
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>>563564398
what VNs?
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>>563564157
Happened to me in Dohna Dohna with some weird unmentioned condition to stop Alice and her sister from getting plowed that's the only one like it in the game. But that was avoidable so I don't know if it should count.
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>>563564567
Avoidable NTR counts as NTR, anon.
If they weren't, people wouldn't be so mad about it every damn time.
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>>563564501
Jinsei games for the tsundere waitress, the tennis girl and the latest one.
There are probably others but none come to mind right now.
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>>563562134
God I hate sequelfags
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>>563564892
>Avoidable NTR counts as NTR, anon.
except when they count GOR as NTR

>If they weren't, people wouldn't be so mad about it every damn time.
not a good metric
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kissing scenes
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>>563564892
This
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>Another schizo has joined the thread
If the jannies are poojeets, they won't care about shitposting, you have to cunnypost.
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>>563564892
True but personally, I feel like games with optional ntr are the worst of both words, very weak feeling unless they either go 80% ntr 20% vanilla, or the opposite, 20% ntr with ntr being bad ends basically.
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>some noger shitposts like hell
>posting has lag now
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>>563565008
some venus games too, though maybe not 8h, more like 4-5
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>>563565008
There's also that one with the construction boss. That one made me feel really bad.
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>>563565437
>picrel
I really wish i could make her put her hair down because she looks retarded with those dorito twintails
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>>563564892
I was thinking more like unavoidable NTR that happens 8 hours in, which would surely cause pic related levels of rage.
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I think janny/jannies who frequent hgg2d are cool.
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>>563565709
You take that back NOW
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>>563565569
Oh yeah, if you mean Boku no Kanojo wa Gatenkei, it always felt more drama than corruption ntr to me, so not that erotic, and it was very long.
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>>563565569
>>563565836
That's this one >>563565736
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>>563565709
you actually can, you don't even need a mod for that
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>>563565736
I love how they put her on the disk like
>oh this won't make people mad at all if she's the main heroine
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>>563565736
still less retarded than sending death threats and shitting a thread
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>>563565736
That's like wasting 100USD from back then exchange rate.
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>>563565907
Yeah but you need to set her hair down daily, Serena just keeps resetting her hair
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>>563565736
rip elf, I enjoyed their art
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>>563566048
To be fair, she was pretty damn endearing.
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>>563566165
Retro anime artstyle really just oozes sovl.
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>>563566265
Need more retroge.
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>>563566308
What they did to this game in the remake was fucking criminal.
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totally not shinra soldiers
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>>563566165
what is she doing with that hand?
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>>563566490
Treating the patient
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>>563566308
Why is she wearing that NTRdress (lol) in a cafe? Who tf does that??
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>>563566712
me nigga
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>>563566490
checking his pulse
it's pulsing well
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>>563566712
Typical attire for a teacher that's meeting her student after hours.
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>>563558735
>art is made to invoke emotions
>anon gets mad when emotions are invoken
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>>563566906
God where are the sensei (female) corruptionges...
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>>563496241
Ethis and the Church
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>>563514737
Holy kino
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>>563567049
You're witnessing genuine cuck rage from an 80 IQ individual. It's fascinating honestly.
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>>563565736
>When the NTR actually destroys your successfull company
kek
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>>563567856
The NTR didn't actually even kill them. It was pumping out cheap and shitty games nobody bought.
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>>563567924
>games
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>>563568092
It was easier to say game than picture book.
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ugly bastardette
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>>563568404
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>>563568623
>>563568623
>>563568623
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>>563568595
would
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Strange how the shitposting died down on the weekend and only picked back up again today. You'd think people would have more time to waste then, not less.



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