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#1274: Holy Week Late Edition
Previous: >>563353139

This general is for the discussion of original, fan made, or look-alike Mega Man games as well as original titles developed by Inti Creates.

>/mmg/ news
Mega Man Starforce Legacy Collection has released https://youtu.be/PTct687LRmQ
Mega Man Dual Override announced for 2027 https://youtu.be/8i97QCOWSC4
Six Finalists have been chosen for Create-Your-RM Contest https://imgur.com/a/UROJnXW
Rockman EXE Phantom of Network PC Port
https://github.com/StraDaMa/PoN_PC
Sonic Racing Crossworlds DLC out now https://youtu.be/Klc21C20h7k

>Fan game news:

Mega Man X Regenesis https://youtu.be/SfUl7diJSxI
Mega Man Maker https://youtu.be/gGUED-D8Kls
Mega Man 64 Recomp out
https://github.com/MegaMan64Recomp/MegaMan64Recompiled
>/inti/ news:
Majogami out now, PS5 version releases on 5/28/2026 https://youtu.be/-j3Rl762aT4
Card-en-Ciel DLC out now https://youtu.be/rSDgP0yjIB0 + https://youtu.be/cMEuZH5eXoM
Kingdom's Return coming to all current consoles and PC on 4/23/2026 https://youtu.be/uOW6WmLpUkU
-Steam & Switch demo out now
Gunvolt Connect iX out now https://youtu.be/bLsJ-X9aX8o
Gunvolt Chronicles Luminous Avenger iX 1+2 Dual Collection releasing for Switch 1&2, PS5 and PC on 7/9/2026 https://youtu.be/gvB2DzQ24Q4

>Other:
Translations of Classic mangas on mangadex
RiCO is selling cripto coin

>DiVE Links
rentry.org/xdaibu (game, emulators and other stuff)

>Koikatsu
rentry.org/mmgintikk

>Melt Stuff
rentry.org/mmelt melt 2 its real

>Game Downloads
rentry.org/mmglinks
Has all MM games, MN9, romhacks, patches + BN cia files

>Audiovisual Media
rentry.org/mmgintimedia
Contains:Cartoons, Anime, Comics, Manga and other printed media - Music Playlists and albums
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>>563716632
>Gibraltar mk2 Inti will really feel they missed out on their characters.
Why do you think the entire fiasco with Morb resetting reality happened? From some reports, they were feeling depressed at the end of GV2 TEN YEARS AGO. Staff hated GV2's ending, and some of the interviews from afterward were basically like "yeah, we killed all of our most exciting character concepts in the first two games" or "we don't know where to take the plot next."

You can see it in iX and GV3, where they really didn't have characters who were as dynamic or had anywhere near as much backstory material as the ones from the first two games. Many of the characters from the first two games had a history that explained their eccentricities. Just look at Gibril's backstory, where she evolved from an innocent prepschool girl with a doting mother and abusive father to a bloodthirsty terroristic orphan (who still has a soft side she bottled up). The abuse she suffered under her father is why she fell for Gunvolt after he hurt her, which is all sorts of fucked up fascinating you don't get from other games.

If Caymen or BB were GV1/2 characters, they would have a life story about how they grew up, the problems they faced, and how it shaped who they became. Instead, they're static; treated like they always were as they presently are. For these reasons, even an unpopular character from GV1/2, like Stratos, had a more compelling story than the most popular iX character, Isola.

>>563718201
>GV3 - killed the entire story of the previous games
The only two things that will stick are the pendant/whatever Xiao's cooking, and GV's character development. And on the character development front, it might be subtle, because GV might not have all the memories from GV3. Maybe some Kirin and Zed shenanigans too, because all the Shijin will need to be together in at least one game, and Kirin has a piece of Morbvolt's septimosome so it's not a complete asspull.
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>>563741323
I call bullshit. There's no way Inti has money for these antidepressants.
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>>563740910
Tactical Communication 2?
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>>563741323
>Shijin
qrd?
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>>563742779
>>563740910
A Beach Volleyball game with all their best girls with Mario Kart levels of wacky antics and cheating?
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>>563743169
4 beasts but the idea's more dead than Chojin Locke.
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>>563743720
Relegated to a drama CD track.
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>>563740935
Mmmm...for some reason the ojousan drills lose a lot of impact when they are not in a blonde.
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>>563741323
You know that it's unfair using Gibril as the measuring stick. She was someone's daughteru. There was so much passion poured into her.
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>>563741323
I say isola is the only iX charcater aside from Roro and Rebelio who had a story to tell. But yes, nobody on GV3 had anything to say, and those who had something to say on iX2 where skipped by Copen.
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>>563744069
She's very cute so it hits me all the same.
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>>563738557
>Gunvolt 2 did it right
What the literal fuck are you on about?
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>>563736125
I imagine it would be possible to do a ps1 conversation mod for it
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>>563741323
>we killed all of our most exciting character concepts in the first two games
>we don't know where to take the plot next
That just means the story never had enough mileage to last more than two games. I'm kind of fine with the series being pretty much done.
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>>563746332
Gunvolt 2 presents 'revolution' as Cure Arcana Shadow on steroids who's hyper horny and will make everyone happy but shows that it only ends in tragedy and shit for everyone.
That's the proper way to show how 'revolutions' work.
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>>563743169
All playable GV characters have been thematically tied to one of the heavenly beasts that protect or destroy the world:

Azure Dragon of the East = Gunvolt
Element = Wood and Wind
Season = Spring
Represents power, growth, benevolence, wisdom

White Tiger of the West = Copen
Element = Metal
Season = Autumn
Physically strongest of the beasts, represents courage and guardianship against evil

Vermillion Bird (or Phoenix) of the South = Zed
Element = Fire
Season = Summer
Associated with rebirth, propriety, good fortune, and guardianship against evil

Black Turtle-Snake of the North = Xiao Wu (funny that it's even similar to the actual Chinese name for the turtle: Xuanwu)
Element = Water
Season = Winter
Represents immortality/longevity, mystery, intelligence, and martial strength/skill

*It's both a snake and turtle, either to represent inner struggle, or more commonly, because snakes were thought to be female turtles in Chinese folklore, and these two "turtles" loved each other so much that they decided to never separate from their coupling, thus becoming one entity. So if you're Elise, you better watch out for Xiao.

Yellow Kirin of the Center = Kirin
Represents prosperity, good fortune, peace, balance, justice, enlightenment, and good rulership
Is the most gentle and compassionate of the beasts, and is meant to wrangle the above (basically, if your emperor is good, the four beasts aren't going to wreck the place)

>>563743792
How? Kirin and ZED were introduced in GV3.
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>>563747203
>So if you're Elise, you better watch out for Xiao.
Still think Xiao's going to go for Zonda. Both the same age, both are drawn with the same themes, both grew up in the same area. If Tsuda said that Zonda is the Roll of Gunvolt, GV is the Zero, and the Nova is like copy-X, than I say Xiao will be the Rock.
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Starting early with the INTI crack theories today, I see.
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>>563746769
The issue was that they didn't really do much with them. The world building and characters in the side story stuff really do feel wasted. I get that some people like it as it adds a sense of tragedy. Seeing a likable character that you've grown to know over the course of several short stories be mercilessly eliminated in under a minute, their corpse spat upon by the protagonist, and for it to kind of be deserved, is uniquely Gunvolt.

The better route probably would have been to just have a clean break. Do a spinoff reboot with all of them alive, rather than trying to ducktape a reboot into the continuity.
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>>563748058
Biggest inti population from a 6% chunk.
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>>563748058
time to go to sleep early then
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>>563749418
It's almost like being a 3 hour long time attack game is a detriment to this world they've created. There is simply not enough time for all these characters to flourish in a satisfying way.
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BlazBlue model of an unhinged continuous 72 hour VN chunks interspersed with 30 seconds of action
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>>563745250
Isn't Isola's story that she grew up on farm, wanted to make people happy and be popular, so joined up with Sumeragi where she gradually lost herself? It's okay, and she has a cute personality and she's hot, but farm girl turned overworked idol and propagandist is not as engaging as the GV1/2 cast. Now, if she had to grapple with Sumeragi's evil shit, that might spice it up, but that never comes up, and I still don't think it'd be as fascinating as the cast from the first games.
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>>563751395
>looks like this
>curlling 60kg (130lb) dumbells in her side story
Jesus Christ. I know she's supposed to be fit even by female adept standards, but adepts are legitimately terrifying when you think about it, even without powers. A male adept would be even stronger if sexual dimorphism holds true.
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>>563751087
Don't forget about sometimes losing is also part of another route
For more context , please buy this japan exclusive release i made because i was horny
(geevee will never be this kino)
(surely studio flare news this year)
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>>563751395
If I recall correctly it's mentioned somewhere in the side material that her septima screws with her head something fierce. Like to the point she goes through complete schizo delusions and can no longer tell where one personality ends and another begins. And that sounds like the basis of a fun character, but as >>563750564 says there's simply not enough time to develop this.
Especially not in iX which is even lighter on narrative than the mainline.
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>>563752035
Not all adepts get strength boosts, just like how not all of them are super geniuses (thought there are many in the cast given how many strong adepts you encounter).
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>>563740870
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The morning Lev has vanquished the horrible night.
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>>563751087
>>563752174
And now ArcSys is an ever bigger westaboo sellout than Capcom and Jam Kurodebery barely shows any skin.
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>>563744229
Cute fang.
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>new heart shaped meme for buttgirls
>Cougar hasn't made a Roro doing that yet
Dark times at /inti/ indeed
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>>563750564
Yeah. They don't even get to use all of their music tracks, like only two or three songs from Butterfly's Journey made it in.
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>>563750564
And yet, they made it work on two games.
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>563754135
It's only dark when you're around
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>>563747203
>White Tiger
>Physically strongest
Lmao, lol
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>>563754379
They should squeeze Lullaby in for a sad Joule/Mytyl scene:

https://youtu.be/IohxH7Pok58

Would be great for feels. The bittersweet rendition of the Zonda/Eden medley used in the background here would be nice too:

https://youtu.be/vfbjBKjuHXY?t=111

There are countless other tracks, inserts, and variations that are only found in the CDs that would be great to hear in game.
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So...Kirbo this weekend?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GTMNGr22ZM

https://github.com/MegaMan64Recomp/MegaMan64Recompiled
working mm64 recomp
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>>563755092
Lullaby would work in a side piece about one of the girls, not in the game proper. Mytyl is the most cat-like, and I could imagine Shinobu singing it to her.

I think Joule is the most likely candidate, though. The echoing, haunting sounds heard in the background, especially clearly at the start, musical bridge, and end of the piece are reminiscent of a scientific lab. The beginning of the piece in particular sounds like the powering up of a some equipment.

Zonda is a huge stretch because she's more associated with rabbits, but you could get some feels if it's the only thing she remembers about her mom, and the dreams and parade/circus stuff could refer to Eden.
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mythril kamizono is a bad character who should stay gone
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>>563754135
Sad times.
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>>563756924
She looks like she'd be a lot of fun to play. I'm predicting personality wise a combo of Roro and Kirin.
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>>563756924
Mytylbros, our response?
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The moon is Lev
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>>563757290
Give her a little time, and she'll bloom into the hottest GV girl.
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>legit mythrilshills
terrible
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>>563757615
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>>563756368
I thought it was another double z2 special
Was kerbo just sprite hack or does it add something else other than poyo
(still it's a wagie weekend so no guarantee of being alive)
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>>563757615
>Give her a little time, and she'll bloom into the hottest GV girl.
Nope, Zonda grows into the hottest.
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>>563754135
This but with Lev.
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>>563756771
>Mytyl is the most cat-like
Really? In front of my Copen?
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>>563757615
She's not gonna grow into Inters.
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>>563758062
yeah because she doesn't get enough art as is
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>>563758130
This but genuinely. All girls need more art.
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>>563758003
As she gets too old for the Alice in Wonderland imagery, she loses much of her appeal.
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>>563758130
Yeah. She desperately needs more art, especially high quality art.
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>>563758326
>This but genuinely.
I renounce you.
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>>563758426
Wallahi good thing Gunvolt killed her in her prime then. She'll never grow out of it!
I don't know what all the bumming about is for, seems like a time to be celebrating to me.
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>>563758426
Nah, she'd be the queen or something, see >>563747606
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>>563758515
Cute.
Try liking one of the obscure girls sweaty.
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>>563758938
>I don't know what all the bumming about is for, seems like a time to be celebrating to me.
Gunvolt and Copen were, never mind what GV3 wants you to believe.
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>>563759428
Lev is obscure.
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>>563760302
rofl
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>>563756368
are you actually going to play or just want to see it melted
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>>563760385
Do not fool rofl.
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>>563740870
Let's see how much time pass before the mods nuke the OP image
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>>563760824
>imagine believing Leviathan is obscure.
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>>563761289
Yes.
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>>563757220
I say that she's gonna be as horny and genki as Roro but as racist as Copen. Howeber, she's not gonna say those racist things with the intention to hurt like Copen, just as a stated fact.
>>563758938
Aging out of prime age is optional for anime girls. Besides, knowing how much power she can wield and how septima can give the middle finger to most things we know about how humans develop it would not even be that much of a clutch.
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Imagine making your own admitted Roll, a design and concept it worked for Capcom, Pupuya, and now Pretty Cure, and you just kill her off and never do anything with her again after the one game she's relevant in.
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>>563761841
lmao
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The only obscure charcater here is Suna. And we don't speak about her for several good reasons.
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>>563762332
sunagame melt
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>>563762075
She's relavent for two game and gets brought up a few times in the next. Even a big enough deal to cause character development in GV. If she's Roll, where's Rock?
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>>563762075
>comes back in ix3
What now?
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>>563762332
>Suna
>Marty
>Chelsea
>Celina
>Nastenka
>Cial
>Rafflesian
>Irene
>Regina
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>>563762953
>Cial
>Obscure
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>>563762862
>iX3
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>>563763194
She's got 2dozens of artwork if that much on Pixiv.
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>>563763438
Damn she's even more popular than I thought.
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This is a place of people so lifeless and obsessed we remember Doppler's assistant and Sigma's servant reploid girls.
We are not representative of jack shit in the wider fandom.
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>>563762953
Not that type of obscure. The type of obscure that prevents a person from doing certain things...like changing the bateries of a fire alarm or leaving a bike that they dont own alone.
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>>563763438
Whoah calm down Ms mainstream. That's more than what the whole Majogami cast got.
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>>563763785
I can't make a Doppler Assistant dataset because there's not enough colored images in decent size
Ariga's Piano got lucky with 10 at most
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>>563764336
Yeah I'm pretty sure if you go down that list you won't find more than five for Chelsea either so this shows that placing Leviathan there makes no sense
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>>563764640
We're talking about Cial though.
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>>563764873
Why does she keeps flashing everyone and calling them bastards?
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>>563768615
They won't fuck her already. Ciel is all shy and pious and broke triple digits already so she's deeply upset.
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>>563762467
So... Wayforward is supposed to release Sunagame II this winter. Are we gonna melt that?
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>>563768615
Why do you keep looking at her intimate areas then if you're not a bastard?
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https://litter.catbox.moe/8p1i9fcrbgi97wed.png
Cial sexo.
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>>563771650
The only slap Cial got from that was a high five.
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>>563769979
>anon, just because a woman rubs her bare cooch in your face doesn't mean she wants you to look at it
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>>563774758
That's right you perverted bastard. Stop staring or you'll be punished severely via tongue duty.
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>>563768774
And her little sister is even more of a nympho than her!
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>>563778795
That's not Cial.
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>>563761989
>I say that she's gonna be as horny and genki as Roro but as racist as Copen. Howeber, she's not gonna say those racist things with the intention to hurt like Copen, just as a stated fact.

Didn't get that she was racist at all from the joke ending.
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>>563779092
Of course that's not Cial, she has a bodycount that would make Rambo blush.
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>>563789256
Well, look at her mom and her brother. I think it runs on the family.
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>>563790921
>her mom
Got over it considering she left her children in the care of Nori.

>her bro
Hides his racism from Mytyl, because he knows it would break her heart. Also doesn't want to drag her into his life of violence.
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Model of Kirino for 3D printing.
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>>563791720
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>>563791720
Now everybody will know...in 3d!
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I found this old thing and I wish to share it here. I think that it aged very well.
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Sperm
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>>563791942
I think GV is a lot thirstier for her than the other way around.

>Shiron: Did you ever go out and do stuff with friends? Like go to malls, arcades, go out to eat?
>Kirin: It's super empty where I lived and my duties kept me busy all the time.
>Shiron: Yikes, that sounds rough... Did you get to have any fun...?
>Kirin: ...
>Kirin: What do you think, GV?
>GV: ...Why are you asking me? Well...you're a bit of a workaholic, Kirin. You should do something to relieve some stress.
>Kirin: You think so? Oh, I have an idea. I'll go get a leash and take GV for a walk.
>Shiron: Ooh, that sounds like a super fun idea! Can I come too?
>GV: I'm still human... But if you think it'll help relieve some stress, I don't mind if it's you...
>Kirin: Hahaha... I'm just joking! You're so serious.

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>GV: Kirin, meeting you... truly saved me... thank you... It sure would be nice to meet you again...
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>>563793849
Shiron definitely knows there's something going on.
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>>563762075
So uh, why is Precure copying Gunvolt?
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>>563795614
Fuck are you talking about? Gunvolt copied Precure.
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>>563795614
if gunvolt doesn't want to use it...
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>>563793849
Gunvolt is defined by his anime autism. Plus it was Kirin who turned him into something more palatable for her tastes, not the other way around.
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>>563795614
Okay, at this point they are just rubbing it. SOMEONE has to notice.
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>>563795614
One man's trash...

>>563796689
The two boys look like Cope and Gunvolt.
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>>563796689
Here you go. Yes, they get transformed into the cat things.
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>>563796941
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>and no Inti amounts of lewd
At this point Inti will commit seppuku after a naked dogeza.
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>>563795614
>>563796689
Taking a victory lap on INTI's corpse.
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>>563797471
Many such cases.
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>>563798446
Gonna post any?
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Such Many Cases Naked Dogeza Cure Arcana Shadow Cut Cats And Caliope Mori
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>>563798446
People doompost about INTI, but I think iX and GV3 are very strong gameplay wise. Not perfect. GV3 has readability issues, mostly with the kudos bar blocking shit, but it was great fun overall. Story was questionable, but I did think it was pretty funny that GV killing all the sympathetic characters from prior games basically locked in the bad end for him. He's going to have to do a new run from the beginning to get the true end. It feels very "Gunvolty." Majogami is severely underrated, mostly because the artstyle is so out there, and it does feel like an inferior GV3 in many respects. Not a huge fan of deck building/rogue-likes, but I liked Card-En-Ciel enough. iX2 was the only meh game, and that's about it. I'm looking forward to the Gunvolt sequel.
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>>563799803
>I'm looking forward to the Gunvolt sequel.
I guess that's more than you can say about most series. I don't want two more Copen games (Gunvolt 2.5 and iX3). You know that INTI is going to be edging us for a few years for GV4, or whatever they call the mulligan timeline.
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>>563798446
I wish I had time to play the new one
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>>563797219
That's the one thing Magical Girl Michiru still has on her side.
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i am going schizo
since when did the all caps name was starting to get used here, because from 5 year it's now being enforced out of nowhere or maybe it's actual dementia kicking in
i know it's correct but you won't force me to do it
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>>563798446
I remember how I spend years saying that Inti should do a Gerbil spin off, just to be told that would not make money only for this to happen and be a modest success and then, somebody else also snagged them the Michiru spin off. At this point someone gonna steal Cut Cats and make money from it.
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>>563800429
Clearly wasn't a benefit if Precure is managing without it
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>>563800972
>Clearly wasn't a benefit
>What is Gushing Over Magical Girls
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>>563799995
They said that Triangle Edition was partly made as preparation for a Gunvolt sequel, so I assume either iX3 or GV4, not an interquel. And it's likely they'd develop both in tandem like prior games anyway.
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>>563801068
Mid.
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is it tedious as shit to finish all the sidequests in sf3 (not postgame)
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>>563801343
Mid doesn't change the spin of a genera on itself.
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You strip down and facing you're all
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>>563802021
There are very few side requests in SF3 and most of them can be done in mere minutes thanks to the encounter toggle. I waited until postgame to start doing them and it took me like 30 minutes to finish them all.
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>>563802021
I think that goes for all Starforce games.
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>>563802262
I remember it's more tedious running around than actual gameplay tedium, if that makes sense
but yea there are fewer than I remembered
maybe I'll drink a beer and plow through them
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>>563802076
A stroke
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>>563791334
>she left her children in the care of Nori.
Seems like a form of punishment to me. Or maybe a power play since Kurona also loved Houdai.
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>>563799803
>funny that GV killing all the sympathetic characters from prior games basically locked in the bad end for him.
So you're telling me that everything we did in GV1 and GV2 was pointless? We were basically playing on a doomed save the entire time? That is hilarious. I'm laughing so hard I feel like I'm crying.
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Battle time, you broke down, you're worn
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>>563802415
fallout from Food Wars.
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>>563802562
>NO, YOU MUST REDEEM EVIL WOMEN!
>IF YOU KILL EVIL WOMEN, EVERYONE DIES!

Hmm, very suspicious INTI.

>>563802021
I remember it being pretty tedious in Battle Network.
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>>563802392
You can now run faster so you can rush them fairly quick.
I'd also suggest you to just wait until after the credits so you don't have to look around whenever there's a new one, unless you really need BreakTimeBomb/OxTackle asap.
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>>563802737
battle network felt more rewarding somehow
>>563802753
I might dip after rolling credits and get back to helping Wei conquer china
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Free your mind, a brave new world will open for you you'll fight
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>>563802562
Basically, Gunvolt did "would you kindly" but in anime. And better than most attempts outside of Marathon and the original BioShock.
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>>563802987
But nobody even asked me. I didn't even have a choice. GV always chose to kill. I didn't even know he had the ability to disable his enemies until he revealed he could in GV3. I was so pissed at him. What sort of insane person jumps to lethal force as the first option against a girl going through a mental breakdown or an eleven-year-old?
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The Singing Fairy.
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>>563803530
>But nobody even asked me.
>>563803740
She did.
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>>563803530
Yes me. Hi. Fuck Eden and fuck adept fucking shits.
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>>563805137
Who invited the Kamizono party pooper?
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>>563804547
>She did.
Doesn't she do whatever GV and Joule want her to do? She's pretty passive.

>>563802737
>Hmm, very suspicious INTI.
In what way?
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why does a random meteor give you powers
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>>563808048
radioactive mutation
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>>563808048
They sometimes have lantern rings in them or an Obnitrix.
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the more I think about sf3's plot the dumber it gets
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>>563808858
SF3's plot is pretty much BN4 but executed in a better fashion.
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>>563799803
>Story was questionable
GV3's plot was bad, it dropped a lot of the themes of the older games, and went for a generic save the world plot over the much more complex Sumeragi and Eden conflicts, but I'm less pissed at it because I understand now that it's just setup. I'm even less pissed at the generic save the world plot because that's just part of the setup; the world is still fucked in the next game unless GV can prevent the bad future. Still not going to forgive it, and Kirin is still a bad character who never really comes together.

I hope we jump right back into the grim dark stuff next game. I've said before, but GV being a merciful good boy who rejects the grimderp and encourages the other adepts to be good is a compelling idea. A light shines brighter in the dark and all.

But INTI said a few years ago that they wanted Gunvolt to be the lighthearted shonen setting while iX gets to be the dark one, so we will see.

>>563808858
Often the case for many games.
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>>563809494
I think BN4 wins even this bout. Regal makes more sense than King (I'm also only now recognizing the name parallel).
That's not even adding on the big thematic arc BN4 introduces of Souls/bonds > (Dark) Chips.
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>>563809520
Kirin is the thing which disappointed me the most about GV3 and is synonymous with nearly every writing issue the game has. Compared to GV and Copen, you never really get a sense of who Kirin is at her core. You’re vaguely told what her ideals are, but never why Kirin herself believes in any of it. She comes off less as a person and more like a loose collection of character traits strung together by the whims of the narrative. As a result, she lacks meaningful friction with anyone in the story, turning what was once a story predicated on interesting, character-testing conflicts into one-note good vs. evil fodder with no personality or flair of its own.

Making this all the worse is the overall lack of care put into following up on the stories of the first two games. GV1/2 revolved around heavy topics such as xenophobia and prejudice, which played part in shaping the battles between regular humans and the Adepts. Nearly every major conflict in those games helped to explore these themes, and by the end of the second game, it was implied that the bloodshed would only get worse. GV3 does not make any attempt to meaningfully follow this up. If a plot thread isn’t unceremoniously resolved offscreen, then it’s forgotten about entirely. The few times the past is brought up, the story is scant on details, and it never feels like the emotional core is moved due to a lack of reaction from the characters.

All of this is to say that GV3’s narrative is unsatisfactory on almost every level. As a follow-up to the first two games, it almost feels like it has no interest in expanding the plots established in them. When taken as its own story, it leaves a lot to be desired due to Kirin’s lack of character and being an ultimately generic doomsday plot. By the end credits, I was left detached and uninvested in where the story went and where it may be headed in the future. The stories of this series have never been perfect, but Gv3 was the first time it outright bored me.
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splashwo
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>>563810698
Characters in GV3 are shit compared to GV1/2, but they're good by the standards of the genre. It's just the GV1/2 characters are ridiculous. Like the GV3 cast is still far better than the iX cast.

I'm going to be contrarian on Kirin here. She gets overly shit on. Kirin does have character, but it's subtle. Her lack of life, sense of self, and adherence to authority are her major flaws. The first two are brought up a few times in optional conversations. For instance, Lumen and Apollo asking about background interests has her saying that she had no time for hobbies. Another convo with Shiron and GV had her admit in a roundabout way that she had no friends growing up and was always doing a job and following orders.

Sure, she jokes around with GV, but she doesn't have anything outside of duty and obedience; being a battle maiden is it. Before she met Gunvolt and the Dragon Saviors, she didn't have any friends, she was an empty person. It's kind of sad, which might be one of the reasons she dodges questions about her past by switching subjects.

And she was wrong in the DLC. It's what prevents ZED from going to her for help, and it's why you spend the DLC fighting her guys.
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>>563811293
Her social skills are too good for a friendless background, or maybe adepts are just responsive to her autistic rizz. We still don't know enough about her background. She is way too evasive about it.
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>>563811216
Why is there so much fat art of her?
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>>563811216
Is about to get a second sister.
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I like to imagine she's blonde, like Roll.
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>>563812180
Heaviest chassi outside of Concrete Man?
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Get blastered.
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>>563811293
kirin has character, gv3's story is just bad
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>>563811293
If that's the case you would think that her respect and loyalty would stand with Shadow Yakumo instead of the organization she's supposed to police.
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>>563814595
SY probably either approves or does not care about 99% of what Sumeragi does. The idea behind glaives to begin with is as a tool to oppress and control adepts. Except for gross misconduct, which their soothsayers would tell her about, they stay out of it. It might even be that SY is giving Kirin the go ahead to join up with Sumeragi as it puts her in the best position to do whatever. Or maybe one miko isn't going to really do that much against an entire nation. The way Kirin describes the SY compound, it sounds like a ghost town.
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>>563814023
>gv3's story is just bad
Not bad, but a very mediocre package overall.

There were parts I really liked, such as GV confronting his actions from the prior games. It really humanized him and had some of his best character development. GV3 also stopped dancing around just how fucked up killing some of the characters in the older games was. GV1 and 2 played this "maybe badass, maybe shitass" game with gibbing anime middle and high schoolers. GV3 lands solidly on "it's terrible, and you should feel bad."

ATEMS were weird, because they were the best protagonist group, but as antagonist, they were very mixed. ZED's definitely the smartest and most successful villain, but his ideals boil down to "Everything would be great if I ruled the world because I'm the best" like the Gilgamesh clone he is. He doesn't have the personal connections to Gunvolt that Nova has, or the weirdness, charm, and tragedy of Zonda.

Character interactions were solid. Kirin and ZED are much better conversationalists than Gunvolt and Copen, and they can really play off of the other zany characters. The entire cast felt like active participants too, which was a great improvement. Even more so that we got non-MC character interactions. In the past games, dialogue were limited to Copen or Gunvolt's perspective, which limited a lot of these quirky characters as Cope and GV were basically wooden planks who wanted to kill them.

Everything else was a step-down.

At least GV3 has me hyped for whatever they have planned for GV4, and maybe that's the only reason for GV3's existence: to set up GV4. No other Gunvolt game has sign posted its sequel as hard as GV3. I think GV4 is the game that INTI wants to do. GV3 is just the game that's meant to get us from GV2 to GV4.
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>>563814595
>>563815020
Isn't Shadow Yakumo supposedly sidelined because the average battle priestess is outgunned compared to what Sumeragi has? Kirin is probably the top of the top they've ever produced.
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This here is Elise.
Elise is a cute snek.
Also three people.
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>>563799803
People doompost because of countless inti's failures. GV3 made the story of previous games totally irrelevant. iX2 nerfed the gameplay and have a typical "Videogame: the game" story. Umbraclaw is just bad. Flamefrit is still a joke. Servants of the Dark is a rushed mess. Majogami is literally a worse version of GV3.

Personally, I have high hopes for Kingdom's Return, but knowing Inti, they could screw things up in the most unpredictable way.
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>>563803740
sir this is a dancing feari general
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>>563823296
Inti is gutless now. I can only hope they don't mess up too much anymore.
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>>563816957
Then that's fucking pointless because they are supposed to keep tabs on them. Then again, they did such a horrible job Sumeragi nearly killed the world twice in a week.
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>>563824218
This isn't the poke all toads general?
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So that's it for any and all Starforce talk? Did the game even did OK? Because I didn't see it in the Famitsu top 10 and I missed the top 30 because someone had a moment and got the whole thread nuked. Probably from the third price increase for the Play Station V.
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>>563816575
You sure got dat prologue boss, iX.
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>>563827389
It's not really being talked about here
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>>563827883
Acura marrying Elfie in that timeline fucked her up mentally.
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Higgsby marries this. She does eventually become a teacher and I hope it wasn't for his sake.
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By the way do you like baseball yes I am loving it
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>>563835462
Only in videogames. Pawapuro is kino.
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>>563827389
There's no interest on it here so I went outside to get brotherbands and discussion.
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>>563835835
It was talked about for two straight weeks. Where were you? It's still a 20-year-old game so it was only going to ever last so long.
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>>563795614
Damn, I didn't realize Kamen Rider Faiz also copied Inti
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>>563835835
Sorry i have severe "bocchiache" i don't like to interact online as it could cause a snowball effect
I've been snailpacing SF2 since the month started, it's just that i prefer to not be vocal about posting every day about it
What i want to say is I HATE DISCORDFAGS SO MUCH, IMAGINE ACTUALLY MANAGING TO EXTRACT BUT WON'T POST THE MODELS BECAUSE IT'S NOT PACKABLE TO THE COLLECTION YET, WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN CURRENT TOOLS EXTRACT MODELS AS RE9 MESHES WITH TEXTURES AS MHS3, AND THE FILELIST IS DIFFERENT, THUS MAKING IT UNREADABLE FOR MESH IMPORTING WITH OTHER PLUGINS THAT QUITED AS SOON AS SFLC RELEASED, ALL FOR WHAT, STILL NO DOCUMENTATION OR GUIDES YET, LOSING A DAY AFTER WAGING ATTEMPTING TO GET SOMETHING WITH NO RESULTS AND THEN ATTEMPTING ANOTHER DAY AND NOT BEING ABLE TO PLAY, I HATE BEING THIS USELESS FUCK
i want to make stuff again because i've been enjoying the collection but i have no energy left, such is the life of a failed ""artist""
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>>563826475
They probably never dealt with anything like dragon outbreaks, which made it necessary for them to directly take action. Now imagine how screwed they'd be if Kirin didn't have Radiant Fetters.
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>>563842056
bruh is just a little tradan for the funny powerups, it's not a fucking date
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>>563823296
>GV3 made the story of previous games totally irrelevant.
This goldmine of background material, but they couldn't access it because everyone was dead. Had to really grind INTI's gears. You know the waifu deaths got under their skin too.

INTI probably trashed the old GV3 script when they settled on the timeline reset plot late in development. Once that took root, they were fine with an excuse plot, because GV3 was basically going to be irrelevant. The entire plot only existed to give GV character development and send him to the past. This is ALWAYS why time travel and alternate dimension shit is dangerous for authors.

Xiao and the pendent are likely to be the only things that carry through from GV1/2. Everything else is reset. Like some other anons said, there is something funny about the idea that the entire time, we were playing on the NORMAL (BAD) END route of the series, and Morb basically told us that we have to replay with extra secret conditions to get the TRUE END.

>iX2 nerfed the gameplay and have a typical "Videogame: the game" story.
INTI's motto is reinvention, not refinement. Sometimes it lands, sometimes it doesn't. Arc chain was about the perfect place to take the mainline series, so I can't wait to see them toss it in the trash for something completely new. As for story, iX's theme seems to be exploring the bad ends of the mainline. The way they do it, with a crossover with BMZ, is really dumb and feels more insane and a bigger betrayal of the prior entry than anything in GV3.

>high hopes for Kingdom's Return
I'm pretty neutral. It looks like a time waster. Something you play that's fun in the moment, but you don't remember afterward. It doesn't really make you feel anything. Junk food gaming, basically.
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>>563842946
It's more about username and being found out on multiple active and past lifes
Also isn't it better to finish everything up to SF3 to interact with online? pretty much at that point it'll be july and pc would be dead, haha...
Or is trading 30 GroundWave1 from SF2 at chapter3 busted?
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>>563827389
It certainly didn't sell the BN numbers which made a million worldwide in 2 weeks.
I feel like in Japan it's at 50k now counting digital and maybe ~70k worldwide since I doubt the west cares that much about it especially since they didn't even advertise it in the Direct back then.
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>>563843778
Nowadays every single person online is cringe so nobody cares.
>Also isn't it better to finish everything up to SF3 to interact with online?
Not really, SF1 and 2 have been very active as well so you can go pvp, get your ass wrecked, get some random brothers and cope with that until you can build something better.
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>>563802562
Zonda is the only ones I could see in that pic as being vital to stopping Vanishing World, because she and Copen have some of the best understanding of Septima in the setting. Next would be Elise, because Resurrection is the most busted support ability in Gunvolt, then Nova for his intelligence and the resources he could leverage, and finally Desna for her (not completely reliable) starsight.
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>>563803530
>I didn't even know he had the ability to disable his enemies until he revealed he could in GV3.
He revealed he could disable people all the way back in the Quinn short story. There was a moment where he very consciously decided to kill a couple of homeless adepts rather than knock them out. He concluded after some internal debate that mercy was weakness. If you showed people mercy after a fight started, then they would just come at you again smarter and better prepared, so you had to make sure their defeat stuck.
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>>563835256
>She does eventually become a teacher
Proof?
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>>563849094
Play the games
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>>563842821
>Now imagine how screwed they'd be if Kirin didn't have Radiant Fetters.
We don't have to, that's the future Desna predicted...and that means that Kirin's powers are such a Toriyama asspull that even the stars did not see that comming.
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>>563823296
>GV3 made the story of previous games totally irrelevant.
Almost. At least we still know for a fact that full scale genocide can't wipe out the humans as fast as allowing the adepts to amazon press them, because we can compare the number of humans in iX to GV3. Aside from that, yes it might as well be a spin off game.
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>>563849460
>We don't have to, that's the future Desna predicted...and that means that Kirin's powers are such a Toriyama asspull that even the stars did not see that comming.
But even with Kirin, Gunvolt would still have eventually overwhelmed her fetters and destroyed the world. Desna was still correct in the end.

>>563849786
GV4 is going to be so weird.

I'm pessimistic, so I don't even think we'll even get to see the old cast or setting back. No GV having to somehow resolve the situation in GV1/2 without killing anyone. No GV having to make amends with what he did, despite GV3 having him say a ton of times that he has some regrets with how he handled Nova and Zonda. They'll just asspull that GV was sent to the past of a completely different world.
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>>563853416
I like all these girls. Lev always struck me more as a Ranamon than a Pitou tho.
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>>563854937
Leviathan isn't a diva personality with a southern belle accent.
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>>563855046
The southern belle was a dub addition.
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>>563849786
>At least we still know for a fact that full scale genocide can't wipe out the humans as fast as allowing the adepts to amazon press them
Is that how Gunvolt is going to convince Nova and Zonda to abandon their plans?
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>>563855316
And so was white sclera. Use something else other than my wife as a gateway to talk about offtopic garbage here, thanks. There is literally a Digimon thread up on /v/ right now.
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>GV2
>Gunvolt and Copen

>GV3
>Gunvolt/Kirin and Zed

GV4
>Gunvolt and ________

Who is going to be the playable guest character?
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>>563855695
>GV4
lel
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>>563855695
Copen, with Xiao for the DLC.

>>563855839
INTI did say that they have a sequel planned.
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>>563843325
>and send him to the past
Why are you so sure he was sent to the past? I thought he just reborn in the present, like, Kirin-present (or near future). Which sound like another problem because in this case GV4 will make the plot of GV3 irrelevant as well. I really hope I'm wrong.
>It looks like a time waster.
Yes, it is. I don't mind to kill a few hours to upgrade some cute cartoonish dorks. Usually such games take dozens of hours, but I'm pretty sure Intis would ruin everything and make them too short.
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>>563856794
Because GV asks Morb for another redo after complaining about his regrets over how aggro he went with Nova and Eden. Because Morb tells him that he can only save the world by applying the lessons he learned in the present to the past. Because GV says he's reversing his doomed fate before he goes baby mode. Because Luxia literally states that Gunvolt was sent back to the moment of his birth in the DLC.
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>>563855695
deez nuts
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Since we're on the subject of Xiao and Zonda, seriously, what is going on between these two. They never interact in the game or side material, but in the official art, they're usually going to be thematically connected if it's a themed art piece. Or here, they're looking at each other, and I've never seen Zonda look this pissed. She doesn't even get pissed at Gunvolt or Copen in the finale, she just vaguely pities GV and empathizes with Copen.
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>>563858439
Gunvolt 2 has so many weird little hints and details that went nowhere. No wonder schizo lore autists on here love it so much.
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>>563856794
>Why are you so sure he was sent to the past?
They've already locked in he's in his past. They'd have to retcon and asspull to change it now.
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Nothing Inti does will ever be as cool as Megaman Zero again so who cares
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>>563859834
Megaman Zero wasn't cool either.
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Being contrarian doesn't make you cool either.
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>>563858439
>Zonda's glare and annoyed expression ¬‸¬
>Xiao's shit eating grin back

That dynamic could work.
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>>563858439
Xiao and Pantera are the only characters with costumes from the same source material here.
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>>563859997
Megaman Zero was cooler than cool.
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>>563859834
Gunvolt is Megaman Zero done right thougth.
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>>563862193
Absolutely fucking retarded take, never post again.
>thougth
of course it's an esl
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>>563862776
Gunvolt shows revolution is a pretty bad idea and MMZ glorifies it.
You just have to look past weep weep goon boom Anon-kun.
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>>563862225
The cult of Roll. One of /mmg/+/inti/ pilars.
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>>563863468
No it doesn't. It's very far from that.
All it says is "don't be a murderous patsy for supremacist terrorists".
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>>563863468
>Objectively stupid post trying to bait discussion.
I'm just going to call you a fag instead. Fag.
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>>563854937
They both are jobbers but Lev is not weak to anal or wind.
>>563855316
And just like when they did it to King DDD it was the right call.
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>>563864008
Anon, revolution is impersonated in Cure Arcana Shadow so she's a cunny out of 10 who's going to make everyone happy but it ends in shit for all the involved and she's the final boss.
When Crapcom kept tardwrangling Inti they had no way but to do it the way they wanted.
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>>563863468
>Gunvolt shows revolution is a pretty bad idea and MMZ glorifies it.
Revolution to change things for the better is good. Revolution where you just wreck shit and leave a power vacuum is bad. Gunvolt never made all the lives and destruction worth anything. The winning survivors owe a debt to all dead to build a better future.
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>>563864223
It only ends badly because GV wants to save the life of a dead woman and so is happy to let millions die in oppressive pogroms and ethnic cleansings.
Which is what makes him turn from a figurative monster into a literal one.
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>>563863468
The message of Mega Man Zero is that Light was insane for thinking that two smart species can not share a planet unless there's sex between them and that X always was a pussy ass bitch when in mattered.
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>>563865138
that's not the message and the message of zx is itself that robots and humans need to have sex for peace
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>>563859834
Gunvolt was...for a 3 games. Blaster Master Zero was especially 3, Majogami and DMFD were in all but gameplay, and Fritos could be but they will have to say good bye to the Sony and X Box stores forever.
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>don't kill the Regina, marry her instead
It's a pretty good moral lesson.
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>>563863945
A faker religion than scientology.
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>>563855502
Nova I don't know but Zonda of course that argument can. Just release Gibril in the middle of the wagie lounch break hours and watch her get flocked by middle aged minos asking her out.
>>563859078
It's the biggest lore waste since Fantasy Warhammer.
>>563859354
Would Zed immediate realisation would be "oh if we are still here then it means that he either created another timeline or he screwed up in the exact same way.
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>>563855502
Pantera's plan isn't to kill all minos, it's to empower all adepts to defend themselves against the people mass murdering them.
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>>563865854
Anon please, even Iris and Ferham succumbed to Roll's message. Now they have a human boyfriend.
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>>563866391
>Results in A LOT of loli reverse rape and gaki reverse gangbangs
I think she would still call that a win. Tenjian would not be happy tho.
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>>563867082
Roll never had a human boyfriend, dumbass.
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>>563867398
Who cares what Tejimbo thinks?
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Could've sworn terra condor's card was grass element but it's null
Maybe I have dementia
At least the other options for ninja is pretty nice so far
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>>563866391
By mass murdering them.
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>>563867993
His giga card is grass. Either way for singleplayer you should be using the GOAT instead
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>>563868194
>Grass stage
>Carpet
>Wood grenade
Truly my savior
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>>563868347
Many ways to power him up.
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>>563869089
What even is the boost anyway is it just double his normal damage output
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>>563868347
You can go one step further and use a blank card to get a +30 Wood.
Make the goat even goater.
>>563869287
I think it's double damage, SP deals 360 with grass
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Holy cute. 10 years and I never noticed. There's always something more.

What must they be thinking?

>>563865863
>It's the biggest lore waste since Fantasy Warhammer.

It's a waste, but it's still better than the way Arcsys handles lore, where it's 40 hours of VN loredump and 30 minutes of gameplay. It gives me the same vibe as Fate/Stay stuff before the Gacha in the way things fit together or are hinted around, just more ridiculous.
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>>563869548
>I think it's double damage, SP deals 360 with grass
Awesome
Thanks anon
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>>563860123
>Being a contrarian is calling the worst selling Megaman series shit
The mental gymnastics of this thread never ceases to amaze me.
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>>563867446
Roll had Kalinka.
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Where is the Pandorafag?
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>>563871072
is that pallette?
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>>563871295
Depressed and reclining, just like me
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>>563865138
the message of MMZ is that wily was right and you owe him an apology RIGHT now
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>>563865863
>Would Zed immediate realisation would be "oh if we are still here then it means that he either created another timeline or he screwed up in the exact same way.
They don't know, and are both very uncomfortable about it.
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>>563871623
You're both wrong and retarded. I'd tell you two to get a room but I honestly don't want you reproducing.
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>>563865863
>Would Zed immediate realisation would be "oh if we are still here then it means that he either created another timeline or he screwed up in the exact same way.
It doesn't matter.

>GV in other timeline
Doesn't affect your timeline now, might as well be on another planet.

>GV in your timeline and you still exist.
Stable timeloop. Doesn't matter. World was saved when GV was sent to the past. Confirmation of eternal torment loops would lead to existential dread.
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The intifurry population has increased by 3x as of late.
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>>563871295
We haven't seen him in a while. I'm afraid he might have been taken down by a Servbot gang greeting like most french men these days.
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>>563873661
>Aztec Falcon filers them all and those who survive get filtered by Phoenix Magnion
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>>563869650
>What must they be thinking?

>P: Give me the pendant, Xiao,
>X: No.
>P: I'll be your muse.
>X: You'll get nothing.
>P: Nike said I have the "power of the stars." That united with the pendant, I will bring prosperity and an end to a great... ramen famine...
>X: Tsuda does not care.
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>>563873661
That explains where the MMZ revisionism came from.
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>>563795614
and Oda apparently.
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>>563874936
If it was just the morpho by itself, it'd be nothing, but it's the Luluka being Zonda-like in design, personality, themes, and vibes, and being extremely popular, on top of another character being represented by a blue morpho. Also, we like clowning on INTI.
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>>563871072
The goat and the priest. The best contest winners.
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>>563873661
>>563874208
Meanwhile in the real world. Sega paid a Kirby YouTube animator to make something to bring Mega Man fans into the Sonic because they didn't know that they were courting a fanbase that hates Sonic on principle.
https://youtu.be/0WY7Y_Hierc?si=0Wlc0UlBsOnkKf__
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>>563875358
Yeah, also let me tempt you into my labyrinth of illusions, and it's filled with purple mirrors. That's pretty Zonda-like.
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>>563875602
SEGA just want Flagship LTD to be a thing again
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>>563875602
Glad to see that kusoge die off after this blatant shilling.
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>>563876204
TerminalRedditor was a soft Cas van de Pol clone anyways.
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>>563875602
SEGA is still seething about the 2010s putting their Sonic brand into turmoil (even though it's their stupid asses fault), so they been doing these weird partnerships with internet personalities and leaving them shut after they're done with the collab.

Noticed how suddenly GameGrumps doesn't poke fun of the Sonic IP anymore and how Cybershell suddenly made a Sonic 4 "look back" video and has been tightly lipped about Superstars after promoting it when most people had obvious issues with the game?
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>>563873661
and the same time, even more Japanese MMZ romhackers will come and hold every mod hostage again.
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>>563877425
>the Leviathan superfan fleeing the private Japanese MMZ modder Discord server, through all of its proxies, after obtaining the tightly guarded Mega Man eLeven romhack, which features a gangbang scene by none other than Bingo Tarte.
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>>563740870
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>>563878250
I think Bingo Tarte is a terrible artist and his artwork looks like something out of uncanny valley claymation personally.
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>>563877275
So what Capcom has been doing for Street Fighter for the last 10 years?
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>>563877425
>More Z3 hacks come out
>None of them edits the recoil rod sprites
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>>563878361
I think their best work was when they were just shitposting on literal who oekeki sites.
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>>563878980
God bless Isnotjustapervert's soul
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>>563855502
>>563866391

Gunvolt in GV2
>シアンの力を、玩具のようにして! お前たちは、絶対に許さない!
>GV: You treat the power of Cyan like a mere plaything! I will never forgive you! Burst forth! Oh, Armed Blue! Shatter that hollow pretense—and the very mirror that reflects it!

Gunvolt in GV3
>You feel bad because you killed Zonda's dreams and then you killed her.
>N-no I don't. I have... no regrets!
>Sure, if your name isn't regret than mine isn't Tenjian. How many more little girls have you crushed you traitor?

After the fight:
>Even now, I still have doubts about what I did when I fought against Nova and Zonda.

Bro, what happened to this guy? Was that crack theory about Joule brainwashing him true, or did being turned into a Sumeragi working dog fry his brain? I hate GV3 for this bullshit. You can't just do a 180 offscreen. Gunvolt was like "fuck these people" in past games. When he heard their sob stories, he didn't give a shit or used it to bully them. He felt good about killing them. Like what the fuck happened?
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>>563878373
the FGC had it coming
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>>563879080
What once sounded like the crazy ramblings of a deunken slav turned out to be true. Tell me how would that not shatter his worldview?
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>>563879080
They just wanted to have an excuse to have merciful GV + everyone back alive without just doing the sensible thing and doing a clean reboot.

>>563880073
Good point. I'd be thinking "maybe that Zonda girl had a point. The hot Russian girl who believed in her was right about me turning into a dragon who unleashed chaos across adeptkind and destroyed the world."
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Pantera can't ever win because then there's no games since the world is just happy and I'm not sure Inti can make a cozy story of seasons clone where you can romance Gibril.
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Cial won.
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>>563883998
A guy actually held a conversation with her.
Progress.
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>>563879080
>He felt good about killing them.
Why did this work in Megaman but not in Gunvolt? People love Megamans when they go bloodlust, but God forbid when Gunvolt or Copen does people start bitchfitting.
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>>563871072
Just read his story
Pure soul.
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>>563873661
I prefer Z2 because of the stages.
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>>563878426
Editing the recoil rod sprites will destroy reality
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Is Pragmata megaman related?
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>>563883998
Cial never loses, that's why she hasn't lost her V card.
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>>563877275
My favorite part is that SEGA pulled all the stops, called all it's contacts, gave away as much money for views for hype, milked their fandom dry, released on as many consoles as they could, hired half of New Deli to make news articles and terrorize the internet, all of that to finally take a win away from Mario...and they got bitch slapped by Kirby's sequel racer nobody even remembered until that year.
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Capcom won.
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iX
>enemies are all adepts
>many mooks use powers

GV3
>enemies are all adepts
>dragon radiation means that they're even more empowered than normal
>nobody but bosses throwing powers

Explain?
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>>563881232
>Pantera can't ever win because then there's no games since the world is just happy
Tactical Communication happens anon. The rest of the world (runned by the people who's interests are to demoralize the working man) will not give up their wagies to an army of women who look like those satanic cartoons they spent 3 decades trying to get banned. Many men have died for oil, but this time many little girls will die for the fat.
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>>563887256
No.
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>>563888331
The nice Russian lady that sees the future said otherwise.
If anything TacCom happens in between GV2 and GV3.
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>>563888220
Look at what Capcom has to do to immitate a fraction of the power Konami has.
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>>563888570
Realisticaly speaking. How would any goverment body ban hot women? Jail any girl that's not a landwhale with the face of a Pit Bull?
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>>563888220
Did it? Pragma better make a fuckton of PR and money to cover up for MonHan underperforming and killing one of the two things keeping Capcom in the green.
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>>563888669
I think they're re-learning whom actually buys videogames and whom just makes video essays to wokescold people for not supporting imperialism.
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>there are present day k*nami shills in this very thread
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>>563889249
I just beat it to Bombergirls
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>>563888570
Will she be an enemy or ally?
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>>563888669
But Capcom is literally only using a fraction of power compared to Konami's all-shilling. And even then it was hags that got attention from Bombergirl lately.
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>>563889789
Nah.
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>>563889827
Yah.
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>>563740870
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>>563884529
Nobody cared except Inti developers
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>>563884529
I can't take anything that Inti does seriously because it's like an unintentional parody of itself, like seeing it is so fucking corny.
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>>563889249
They are one of the few non gacha developer who still delivers brats.
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>>563891136
No wonder they're doing so poorly.
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>>563891136
>non gacha developer
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>>563889789
Capcom had the most absurd shilling campaing for Street Fighter VI. 2 years of non stop shilling, followed by mass CnD lawsues aimed at any Youtuber who refused to take the bribe and/or eat the slop. Literal US left leaning presidential campaing amounts of money wasted. Little good it did for them tho, they ended up in the red anyways.
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>>563884529
People loved it when Copen was a a murderous racist.
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>>563891427
They're not.
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>>563888220
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>>563891582
Haven't seen Capcom in the red at all. That they didn't make the projected sales sure but it still wasn't a bust.
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Anyone got some nice Caliope Mori AI slop to share? Need to rub one off
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>>563892548
The devil is in the fact that they started reporting revenue instead of profit. That and their barrierstation rant.
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>>563891929
They are and so are you, loser.
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>>563896968
Because they didn't make the projected sales.
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>>563888220
>>563889215
I don't buy it. Diana's design feels so toned down, from the messy hear to the huge puffy jacket that hides her siluette.
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>>563891889
>Cope vs Eden
Why did it work so well? Was much better than GV vs Eden or Cope vs Sumeragi and Workers.
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>>563898761
Maybe because Copen is a monster but fighting for a real and alive girl instead of Gunvolt who is doing this for a dead girl and all while pretending to be the hero of the story.
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Mafioso
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>>563898761
douchebag antihero vs sympathetic antivillains just werks for edgekino like Gunvolt
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Hamlet kit, more than 7k in my pocket
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So... everybody is playing Pragmata...
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He stirs up the chicks, the kilos around my neck
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>>563903014
>Capcom wins
>Inti BTFO
how did things get so bad intibros it wasn't meant to be this way...
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The Mecca is sealed to keep out envious people
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https://x.com/kou_hiyoyo/status/2018300871667265891/photo/1

wish i could see a full one
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>>563740870
Roll nun is still up. Praise be!
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Penny's got it on my face, right, cruising in a Volvo
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>>563866391
The thing that Zonda lovers and haters don't get about her is that she is both the most compassionate and selfless character in Gunvolt, while also wanting to wipe out a significant chunk of humanity. Unless you're playing the 8-4 translation, of course, in which case she's a condescending selfish sociopath who manipulates and throws away the lives of her followers, including her own adopted brother, for godhood over a cleansed world. In that case, that's probably why you hate her.

Compassionate and genocidal may seem contradictory, but it isn't. Zonda doesn't hate nonadepts, she's actually pretty sympathetic, in a way that an animal lover feels bad about shooting a rabid dog. It's just something you just gotta do to protect yourself and the ones you love. We're all rabid dogs.

When she encounters Copen, she actually sympathizes with him, even though he just killed her whole family. She's says yes, I get it, you have people you need to protect, but so do I, and our two tribes are just mutually incompatible. Against Gunvolt, again, she's weirdly nice to him, kinda pitying him, and she says that it would be nice to coexist with the nonadepts, but that's just not possible. The nonadepts have proven over and over they can't love. One side will wipe out the other. About the only time she breaks character are when GV accuses her enslaving adepts like Sumeragi, when she's getting her shit pushed, and when she's dying.

It's the reason she's hedged out the others as my favorite Gunvolt main villain. Just so much tragedykino and gap moe packed into her.
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>>563903014
Actually, I'm playing Ginga Force
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>>563905542
The fucking INTI autism always makes me feel like I've stepped into /a/. Thank God Gunvolt doesn't have a successful anime series, or we'd be dead.
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>>563906972
God I wish this thread had moderation on par with /a/.
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>>563906972
la genocida simpatetica....
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>wishing for more moderation
you might as well ask for more taxation while you are at it
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>>563908272
Calliope Mori taxes are a healthy thing, anon.
Do you want to live in some sort of communist hellhole?
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>>563908272
Depends what the taxes are for, and how much.
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wingundam LEViosa
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>>563906972
Yeah seeing this fucking moron >>563908336
get banned and sent back to /vt/ would be the most cathartic shit imaginable.
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>>563908272
>asking for more shart pics
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>>563905190
>>563760941
I mean have you seen the gacha gen OPs?
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>>563908461
>/vt/
>implying
Inti makes the rules, Anon-kun, not me.
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>>563906972
>Gunvolt doesn't have a successful anime series
Oh man, if only.
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>>563908461
Ironically Megaman has a second vtuber collab. Even more ironic is that Inti spent so much time trying to be first about it that they missed the boat.
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>>563908546
Did a quick look. All I saw was that the nameless Roll drawfag did the current OP for the Team Fortress general.
And that Limbus is still at war against itself over the lolifags fighting back against the evil forces of fujos and furfags.
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Between these two and Joule, is this why Gunvolt found the most boring nonadept woman he could and tried to settle down with her?
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>>563908401
They race swapped professor Lev and now she looks more like Epsilon.
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>>563910005
Dunno anon, why most people here would scoff at all the girls in Zed's harem just to marry this thing?
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>>563905542
Good analysis of her. I like the comparison to rabid dogs. That really is how Zonda would see is. She loves all dogs, but we nonadepts all very rabid and love to bite, and she cries when she shoots us, but she does it with no hesitation every single time.

>>563906972
We'd be fine with just a manga. You MMfriends at least got a manga per game back in the heyday. Choujin Locke and Toaru don't count.
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where room of Z
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>>563910247
I still can't get over the fact that you have Isola one arm curling over 100lbs, Gibril having a really nicely toned body despite being 14, and even Elise having muscle definition despite being a shut-in, and then here you have Grazie, who is one of Zed's warrior elites, with the chub. How many calories is she packing away?
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To celebrate the release of Pragmata, it's time for Episode 7 of 2nd Super Robot Wars Z: 破界篇

https://parsec.gg/g/38gXmTiAVEvCVv85P6Krz86iKwm/nkmeivjs/

Expect bugs/crashes, numerous untranslated things, numerous incorrectly translated things, and a new wave of bugs from a new way of rendering text.

Starting at XX:00
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>>563910606
Well, let me put it this way. Zed has to declare what that girl eats as a millitary expense. So yeah, eat your heart out Stella and Isola, Grazie is the most high maintenance adept by far.
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>>563910606
You know that film, Super Size ME?
That's Grazie's daily caloric intake.
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>>563906972
>Gunvolt gets an anime
>Zonda or Gibril are major characters in GV4 or its DLC
That would kill discussion in this general for a good long time.
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>>563911272
Should have released that Layer playboy bunny alt. But Daibu is dead now.
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>>563906972
Or a gacha. Could you imagine a world this complex and colorfull being exposed to an army of normalfags with ADHD.
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>>563910606
Reminder that this is natty for a 14-year-old adept.
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>>563910247
As they say, the fat dumb retard always gets the minos.
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>>563911385
No, because a Gunvolt gacha would die. Now, if the gacha was successful, oh my God. OH MY GOD.
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>>563911431
>natty
>od'd on bazileiro septimatose steroids and sopa du macaco
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>>563911739
Ah yes, GV's famous quote "Na televisão, nada se cria, tudo se copia". Which translates as "oversurge azure striker".
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You jest but a Gunvolt spin off game in Rio Du Janeiro would be dope. Extra points if the rival character is just Kuruminha.
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>>563911385
>a world this complex
>
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>>563912543
Honestly I'd love to see just like a non-english dub.
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>>563855695
Interesting observation. Every GV game has introduced a new playable character and muse. I wonder how hard Lumen is going to get mogged this time? Unless they do some subversion, Xiao is the only playable character left, being the Black Warrior of the North. No idea what theme his muse will be or who it will be.
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>>563913117
>the one in the most revealing dress is the married one
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>>563913117
If you're talking about mogging Lola's been the most mogged. Songs have been consistently crap.
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>>563747203
The Yellow Kirin or Dragon, depending on myth, is the absolute strongest, not the White Tiger. It leads the others, because they're kind of retarded and will destroy the world if left to their own devices. Only with the guidance of Kirin can they be put to good use (sound kind of familiar, doesn't it).

The Azure Dragon is the next strongest and centered in the Heart.

Usually, the Vermillion Bird is ranked next in strength. It is centered in the Stars.

The White Tiger specializes in offensive warfare and killing and centered by the Head.

The Black Tortoise specializes in defensive warfare and centered in the Vast Circle* (https://youtu.be/9wm67DamPGg)

*sometimes called Emptiness

I hope you notice a theme. INTI is not subtle.
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>>563913906
That inti are hacks and didn't implement the snake as a pair with the turtle destroying the feng shui of inti?
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>>563911385
Shartvolt doesn't have a big enough cast for a gacha nor actually appealing characters to roll for.
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>>563913117
>No idea what theme his muse will be or who it will be.
Unless they go with a totally new character, only two girls are compatible with Xiao's pendent: Mytyl, in which case you'd just get Lumen again, or Zonda.

C'mon INTI you cowards, do it. Pick Zonda. Her cyber dreamer projection or whatever would be ridiculous.

>I wonder how hard Lumen is going to get mogged this time?
If INTI aren't cowards, hard.
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>>563914508
Oh no, having to develop more cute adept girls and gibril sexy bride alt.
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>>563914587
Zonda's colors wouldn't work with the current trio. Layla/Luxia already has Zonda's colors covered, probably because Layla was originally a Zonda clone. They'll go with a completely new little girl, and she'll barely be a character like Layla.
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>>563914838
People won't buy OCs and people will get burnt out on Gibril really quickly.
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>>563915228
Nah.
The real reason a gacha shouldn't be made is because gachas are predatory dogshit, but the 10th alt of Gibu in golden bikini will remain appreciated.
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>>563915367
Don't you "nah" me. You already get flak for the same 5 Gibril images over and over.
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>>563915718
I say "nah" to you a second time.
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>>563914838
You'd end up with conman's gacha outlasting Inti's attempt.
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>>563914407
Does Xiao even know about Elise?
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>>563916178
No.
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>>563916178
I'm sure the guy who sees time as a vast circle knows about life snake.

BTW, doesn't anyone else think that it's hilarious that aside from IPs, the only place Xiao shows up in GV3 are as secrets? Hidden in a blink, and you'll miss it cameo in one of the promotional GV3 music videos, then in the secret ending.
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>>563874140
>>563914587
XIAO LET ME PLAY WITH THE PENDANT OR I'LL TELL ON YOU! IT'S MY TURN!
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>>563916178
Pfft no.
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>>563916810
Sorry, Mytyl asked first.
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>xiao zonda pendant posting
goddammit is this the shit we're going to have to put up with until the next game is announced?
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>>563917304
It's all Patako's fault.
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>>563915228
RiCObros...
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>>563917304
>I Have No Muse and Must Sing
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>>563914508
>Shartvolt doesn't have a big enough cast for a gacha
>Limbus selling people the same 12 characters over and over again
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>>563917791
RiCO was so shit that she killed two games they tried shilling her in.
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>>563918156
RiCO slander betrays a withered soul.
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Oh Xiao, my beau.
Please give me that accessory.
So I may sing my reverie.
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>>563918451
>Recalling historical events is slander now
You can't slander a name if it never had any value anyway.
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>>563918602
Please, just stop.
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>>563918814
Feeble poster, like Massimo.
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>a zondafag pissing off a copenfag by just being itself
All's right with the world
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>>563917304
If they announce anything, it'll be around Bitsummit in late May or early June.
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>>563919767
>eyes immediately drawn to Elise's adorable tired ones
Dammit.
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Somebody posted the Famitsu top 30 of this week again. Starforce Collection is out of the top 30.
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>>563917903
Isola-a-go! I'll show your that I'm better than any Cyber Diva! A true Idol doesn't need a pendant to go Full Throttle and Beyond!
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>>563921259
Isola's ghost, a not cyber diva per se more like an echo of her last performance tied to someone using her feathers pressed into a charm.
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I think we have actual INTI staff/writers in these threads, and it's freaking me the fuck out.
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>>563921434
We don't fucking matter anon. Otherwise there'd be more lolis in Gunvolt and we'd see the good end of Pantera's victory.
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>>563921356
Cyber Diva (CD)
See pic related

Funny thing. All muse titles have the initial CD. For instance, Luxia is the Cyber Djinn. That's why people joke about Zonda, if she were to ever get a projection, having its name be Cyber Dreamer, since her Semptima/Octima is named Phantasm/Reverie Mirror, and she deals in illusions/dreams. It works out neatly, doesn't it? Too neatly.
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>>563921646
They're doing it to troll us, man. They're feeding us ideas to hype and rug pull. The pendant posters aren't making me feel any better.
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>>563922174
If any of the mentally ill ramblings in this thread make it into GV4, I'll give Panthera the pendant.
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>>563922534
Goddammit you got me.
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>>563921434
You've spent so long huffing the general's self-important farts that you've grown delusional.
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>>563923509
I think it'd be hilarious if any of headcanon in here ended up in the game just because it'd "confirm" the delusions of these monkeys. Maybe a few percent chance something from here makes it in just by the sheer torrent of schizoid theories bandied about. When your're throwing everything at the wall, some shit might just stick.
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>>563923932
>Part where <character> turns directly towards the camera, and states with no uncertainty, that <statement which directly contradicts thread headcanon>
You would still have posters going "zomg, <character> does <thing>??" until the fucking starts burn out.
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>>563918602
Luluka does it better.
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>>563923932
>Gibril carrying a minos bf over her shoulder like a spoil of war
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Is the pendant meant to be some INTI inside joke?
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>>563924041
You still have people arguing that GV was sent a 1000 years into the future when the DLC states word for word he was sent back to the day he was born.
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He truly went back to Brazil.
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>>563924041
>>Part where <character> turns directly towards the camera, and states with no uncertainty, that <statement which directly contradicts thread headcanon>
You're still upset about the adepts fucking nonadept memes and fantasies?
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>>563924051
Can't wait for INTI to refuse to use Zonda again, despite Arcana's huge popularity. She was the only final boss you didn't get to confront in GV3. Sure, you got to fight an illusion of the fake one, but that's doubly removed from the real thing.
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>>563925061
>She was the only final boss you didn't get to confront in GV3.
The pessimist in me says it's because they couldn't get her voice actress or are ashamed of having you beat up a scantily clad magical girl.

The optimist says that it's because there's some story or lore reason that would have made Pantera a bad pick, like she would have just resolved/ended the situation because of her Octima. Unlike Shiden and Asimov, I don't think there would have been much of a motivation for a fight from either side. Maybe there could have been some handwaving, like Pantera went mad, or she wants to force you into her world, but that goes a bit against her character.

Or maybe the reason will come up in a later game. We will see.
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>>563921434
Their head of marketing is a regular here so why would that amaze you?
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>>563925310
Inti is too coward to use Pantera again. It's not that difficult to grasp.
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>>563924168
Long story short. It is the most important item in the whole world that contains the power all the main villians of at least 3 games have killed for. And it's rotting inside a desk somewhere. And to make matters worse the last person who owned it, shen asked what he was gonna do with it said and while making the most evil grin imaginable to set the sequel "Nothing" and so he did!
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>>563925931
The power so many killed and died for is just an angel technique to make women horny. Everything else is ancillary.
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>>563925857
If they lean into her Eden Party characterization, she's not really all that lewd. She bounces between being creepy to genuinely cute and likable. By the end, you could see why she's well liked at Eden. I don't think her true form is all that lewd to begin with in the base game, aside from the promo art and final boss design. And if she never gets the Joule shards, you will never see that design anyway.

>>563925931
Doing nothing with it is actually a monstrously shit thing. If the world was ending, and you one of the only things that could save it, and you knowingly hid it and refused to use it, I'd think you'd be a pretty big dick.
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>>563925857
They had her lewd form in GV3 as an IP. Also, they had lewd lols in CnC.
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>>563908546
Somehow, the fighting games general has the most porny OPs on /vg/ despite most of it's regulars being black homosexuals.
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>>563925931
And then this Zonda is a villain who wants the pendant for herself, so she's hunting Xiao or something in increasingly obsessive ways, or is she just like a spoiled girl? Is that the gist of the joke?
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>>563926929
I'm absolutely livid. Fucking Ali and his stupid barrier should've been done in one turn but he stunned the ship that was meant to slap him.
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>>563926532
There were no lewd lolis in Card Incel.
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>>563926775
She died to get the power inside the pendant like many others. The kicker is that if she were to get it that would be it for the story if not the setting as a whole, most of the problems would be solved and the problems that the sequel had would be solved by killing the MC(Gunvolt).
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>>563926929
imagine the number of stages we could've done in 6 hours 45 minutes...
>>563927006
surely we'll get it right in tomorrow's nth retry
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>>563927006
surely once The Crew shows up we won't be pushed around any more...
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I don't think Pantera would be that bothered if, instead of a minos genocide, her plan results in peaceful cohabitation.
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>>563927023
Red Hood, Spear Imouto, almost all the cast of Tactical Communication, Zonda.
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>>563927302
I'm investing all our PP in King Gainer to get him DoubleAtk
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>>563927418
>not lewd, her rapist form was older
>not lewd
>none of the kusogakis were lewd
>okay you got me
Lewd loli, singular, is not lolis(plural).
No, this is not a loli.
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>>563927543
what a nice coincidence that the King shows up on drillroute
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>>563926775
No, Xiao just swopped in after Zonda, Gunvolt and Copen were done killing one another and stored that power inside the pendant.
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>>563927545
>No, this is not a loli.
She's 11.
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>>563927697
And Mimi is 40, what's your pojnt.
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>>563926775
It's more like this. GV is heavily based around certain themes. The playable characters have all been associated with one of the Four Divine Beasts + the Central Beast. So far, we've had three out of the four divine beasts revealed, Gunvolt (Azure Dragon), Copen (White Tiger), and Zed (Vermillion Bird), plus Kirin (Yellow Kirin) as the Central Beast.

Each of the four divine beasts has a guiding "house" that centers them, see >>563913906 . This can be the Heart, the Stars, etc. In Gunvolt terms, these are the muses, which are of extreme importance to the plot.

Kirin, being the central beast, has all the houses, meaning that can just borrow the others' muses, which she does in GV3 by having both Lumen and Luxia help her out. Her job is to herd the other beasts so they help the world rather than destroy it.

Now the last divine beast, the Black Warrior (or Turtle-Snake) has not been confirmed, but it's very heavily implied to be Xiao. If it Xiao, he will need a muse to center him. It just so happens he has pendant. The only two characters in the cast who are compatible with the septimasome in the pendant, who can become a muse, are Zonda and Mytyl (Joule does not count as she already has a muse septima).

There are a few clues that point to a connection between Xiao and Zonda that INTI have dripped out over the year (usually in official art). There was also the mystery of the unnamed G7 member who disappeared or "died" during the events of GV1.

It's been 10 years though. At this point, it's more likely that INTI takes the path of least resistance, and just makes up Quinn 2.0 or Layla 2.0 who just happens to be super compatible with the pendent too to be his muse, and we're all very disappointed.

>>563927025
Shouldn't some of Zonda be inside the pendant herself. Unless Joule was vindictive enough to eradicate Zonda's soul, they were merged like GV was merged with Morb.
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>>563928389
>Unless Joule was vindictive enough to eradicate Zonda's soul,
Joule is extremely vindictive and did just that. Zonda's bad, but she didn't deserve that. It'd be so much easier if she was actually malicious like the English script makes her out to be, but she's one of the nicest characters in Gunvolt, she's just really deluded.
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>>563928389
>Unless Joule was vindictive enough to eradicate Zonda's soul
No way, that'd be wildly out of character.
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>>563928760
Said with sarcasm.
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>>563928868
Cyan is literally called a lying fairy by Nike, drawing GV deeper into self destructive violent urges.
She's a siren for a reason and I would not put it past her.
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>>563928606
She's nice up to a point, but she was totally willing to sacrifice Mytyl and Joule, who were completely innocent, for her goals. Also everythinh she did undercover in Sumeragi, or the attack on Japan. She doesn't have clean hands.
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>28. [NSW] Mega Man Star Force Legacy Collection (Capcom, 03/27/26) – 1,289 (24,483)
Is this good?
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>>563930226
I thought the game was supposed to sell more than all SF games combined according to the hype.
Meanwhile just SF2 on a single platform sold more so far.
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>>563931714
the switch version has had stock shortages since it launched
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>please feel bad for all the gakis who brought it all upon themselves and got more than they bargained for
Hmm.
No.
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>>563933416
>self defense... bad!
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>self defense genocide
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The minos drew first blood.
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>>563933867
>why you coming at us? we're just self defending through preemptive strikes!
>what do you mean we could just stay in the urals and create our own nation where we aren't persecuted? It's much easier to just kill everyone else!
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>>563935693
Adepts are born worldwide, and are viciously persecuted worldwide.
Rather than sequester them to a foreign land, let the anime people live in their own lands, speaking their own language, and honoring their own traditions.
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>>563936713
Negative. It is an in-world fact that the emergence of adepts have lead to complete societal collapse for multiple nations across the globe. This is why Copen is doing god's work; He's acting like a natural killer cell sorting out the constantly emerging cancer.
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>>563937338
that's awfully anti-septimic
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>>563937338
>its okay to kill adepts for no reason
>but if they fight back that means we can unsheath GV at them
Because let's face it, Acura sucks. At most he jumps and murders a random adept with the powers to strike perfect Jojo poses once a week.
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>>563886421
Don't forget the bosses.
Wish we gotten the Phantom's Armed Phenomenon
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>>563939584
I can't state the bosses because a solid chunk were recycled from Z1 but yeah the guardians are always cool to fight.
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>>563939584
Don't forget the ost.
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>>563906972
If it did, we'd be just the next Bleach general.
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>>563940056
>Hollows only date humans!
I dunno I haven't kept up with Bleach since they went to the spirit world over a decade ago.
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>>563940056
Why is there a Bleach general? That ran it's course like 25 years ago didn't it?
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while on the topic of Z2
is sunmelt suitable for a third one
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>>563928868
Need Cial version that says yes.
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>>563939569
>for no reason
Plenty of reasons, you just choose to forgo those for the sake of waifu reasons. The entire mainline trilogy where adepts continuously fuck shit up for ultimately selfish and petty reasons is exactly why Copen is right, no matter how much he sucks. Adepts are dangerous and Sumeragi is incapable of shackling them.
Hell, even after decades Copen continues to be right as seen in GV3. The world doesn't become a peaceful utopia, it just gets filled with clownshit like laser buddha statues and the conflict escalates from minos v. adepts, to just adepts v. adepts with all that entails.
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>>563941028
It is for no reason. Okonkwo of Nigeria didn't make people explode, why's he getting hassled?
The girl from Uruguay that looks like Miyako didn't make blood puppets out of people so why's she escaping the hate mob?
This is collective punishment on a global scale.
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>>563930226
Starforce barely even got any new fanart out of the whole ordeal.
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>>563930226
Unknown since there was a stock issue and we don't know if it's been restocked yet.
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>>563933416
Mmm yes. Because there's only one way to trully defeat an evil brat.
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>>563941346
Axl's wives.
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5 more days until Inti is saved
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>>563941230
You can say it isn't morally right, but that doesn't make the prejudice wholly unjustified. It only takes a few bad apples to ruin the entire batch, and said bad apples have turned entire NATIONS into scorched wastelands.
Ironically iX is the only game to properly show us that not all adepts necessarily needs to have their brains filled with Divider photons, and that is in the context of a very real and ongoing genocide against ordinary humans. And is done entirely without a dangerhaired dogfucker moralfagging the entire way through about her ideals.
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>>563740870
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How much does Sonia love Solo?
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>>563942735
a whole lot!
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Lev should be smooched.
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>>563941346
I counted plenty of Luna and Sonia.
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>>563941230
>Okonkwo of Nigeria
Blacks have no soul so they can't get a septima.
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>>563926443
>Bloomers
Zonda uses a string thong as shown in the artbook.
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>>563951267
Cope and seethe.
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>>563910606
You should have been here when she was newly introduced. She was the postergirl for what the hard cap on how fat an adept can get vs Alia who is the postergirl for obesitity in robots.
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>>563951849
Retconned out of the plot like Star Platinum wondering the whole town in episode 1 of part 3.
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>>563952209
Nah we're back to Sao Paulo so expect more.
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>>563951849
He was a Japanese boy before his septima turned into Chocolo from Shaman King with watermelon manipulating powers.
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>there really is coping and seething
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>>563911739
>>563912286
>Shantae is still not Gunvoltiño's friend despite being with him in more crossovers than Beck because of this.
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>Offtopic street shitter chimes in
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>>563941346
>Pallette telling Luna to not come to school tomorrow
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>>563952914
There's no such thing as off-topic in the water cooler thread
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>>563951687
Just because she wears something specific in a lewd promo it doesn't mean that's what she has on all the time.
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>>563953359
>There's no such thing as off-topic in the water boarding thread
FTFY
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>>563954448
Water cooler. If it were water board then you'd be the first.
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>>563941346
I'm making fanart but I'm keeping it to myself, like this one.
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>>563918916
She's selling cripto coin anon. Look at the X dive offline page. Her social credit score must be in the gutter.
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>Finishes off Solo EX
He really is the goat
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Finishing off Lev solo...
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>>563955956
>chinese martial arts secret boss that does it for the fight
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>>563928389
>Luxia = the Stars
>stars and moon themes
>surrounded by sparkling stars
>shawl looks like the night sky full of stars

>Lola = the Head
>is a floating robot head
>Copen's super power is his brain

>Lumen = the Heart

While I can see the above, I doubt whatever Zonda's cyber muse projection would be would match the feel of the Vast Circle, the Void, the Emptiness, which is the Turtle's centering/celestial mansion.

Actually, if you swapped Joule and Zonda, you'd have better resonance. Lumen is blue morpho lady, and blue morphos are associates with (acceptance of) death in Japanese, playing into the Black Turtle's themes of longevity/immortality and the Vast Circle of time or the Void of death. Zonda being the Heart is obvious. She's been showing it off the Ace of Hearts since day 1, and she's very compassionate. Maybe that's why Tsuda joked that she was Gunvolt's Roll.

But this is all too cracky, even for me.

And this analysis breaks down from the get-go. While the other GV characters embody their Shijin well enough if you squint, GV is a shitty Azure Dragon. The Azure Dragon embodies wisdom, and you can't say that about GV. Him and wisdom are always moving in opposite directions.
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>>563954562
>gringo thinks that he wields the power of the Tehuacánazo
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>>563956617
Morpho= Butterfly

RoRo= Phoenix

Luxia= Luna (Moon)

Transformation, Rebirth, Phases
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>>563941028
>Copen is right, no matter how much he sucks.
It's a losing battle considering that adepts will displace humans. Adepts almost always pass on septimosome to children. Adepts when they die leave septimosome behind in the form of spirits which can attach to children. Normie couplings give birth to children with septima at an increasing rate. There's no winning this. Either it happens quickly or slowly.

Copen came to this realization, and rather than accepting it, he killed every single man, woman, and child on Earth, even his sister. Like many supremacists, it was never about uplifting his own tribe, it was about destroying the other.

And despite the anime autism, they have a point that they are better than us in many respects and are the next evolution of humanity. Adepts are smarter, stronger, and hotter than we are on average. They also, despite the property damage, seem to have more of an aversion to killing each other since they're shonen brained retards.

For instance, ATEMS vs Sumeragi was relatively bloodless, and almost all non-Gunvolt involved fights in the side material with both adepts alive at the end, even ones with violent adepts like Viper and Gibril. Gunvolt and Asimov were considered freaks because they made every fight a death fight.

Note that this bloodlessness does not seem to apply to nonadepts. If you're a nonadept, you're just a background character, and they don't care, probably one of the many reasons for the race war.
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>>563958897
Don't the adepts in GV3 kill Kirin when she loses?
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>>563959339
No, because the fetters stay active on Gunvolt unless Lumen intervenes. She goes into her sword-glaive thing.
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>>563958897
So fuck adepts and kill them all.
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>>563958897
>Copen came to this realization, and rather than accepting it, he killed every single man, woman, and child on Earth, even his sister.
Not this headcanon again. You have no idea what events led to the iX2 world outcome, it could've just as well been Zonda achieving her desired """utopia""" and setting the entire world ablaze by turning it 100 times more shonen. There's probably a reason why Workers are impervious to Septima, why the Grave Pillar looks like a huge glaive and why it is designed to protect & preserve humanity.

I hope the iX1+2 booklet confirms what happened so we can put this to rest.
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>>563740870
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>>563958897
>not this shittu again.png
A high trust society doesn't need guns and cameras aimed at everyone's head. Kirin's Japan isn't that much better for the average person to Gunvolt 1 Japan.
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>>563961854
>A high trust society doesn't need guns and cameras aimed at everyone's head.
Where are you getting this?
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>>563960304
First, if Zonda won, then that's it. There's nothing around in iX2 that could overcome her fully awakened octima. There is literally nothing short of a deus ex machina that Copen could do in the short term to counter Zonda after she'd achieved full power. He didn't have the grave pillars up, he didn't have his tech base, he just had his GV2 crap. You think Zonda would just sit on her tush and let Copen build up the pillars and the means to kill her and all the superpowered adepts, especially as he was a known factor in GV2 to her?

Second, there are implications that nonadepts and adepts united to oppose Copen. So it was likely Copen going off the deep end and realizing that it was an unwinnable war, and just flipping the table.
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People like and want to sympathize with adepts more because all the nonadepts we know are either very boring, normal, forgettable people or they're Copen. It helps that adepts all have attractive and eye-catching designs, whereas nonadepts usually have more realistic phenotypes that blend in.
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>>563963257
Normal isn't bad, it's actually good. It's healthy. Normal means that you meet societal, cultural, physical, and mental standards. Normal, boring people are the ones you want to have around in your life.
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>>563963436
We don't write stories or fantasize about normies.

>>563911385
Didn't the GV artist do gacha designs before?
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>>563962885
First, empowering all adepts in the same manner Joule powers Gunvolt is like a fission reaction setting off a fusion explosion. Something that can very quickly escalate and especially on the scale that Zonda intents. There's a whole slew of things that could and probably did go wrong.

Secondly, there are no such implications. The tower is designed to open up to any human, but access beyond the lower floors are restricted. For whatever reason some humans decided to move beyond it and it could be for any number of reasons and Copen were likely gone at that point as well, in seach of a new world for those who remained.
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>>563955956
Truly the superior wood choice
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>>563963257
>all the nonadepts we know are either very boring, normal, forgettable people or they're Copen
Well, he author's thumb is certainly also on the scale since they have to come up with 8 or so zany characters as boss fights for each game, and that is where adepts shine. In comparison we only know of, like, 3 ordinary humans in Quinn, Copen and Kohaku. Two girls who are essentially carbon copies of each other, and then the God Emperor of Mankind himself.
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>>563926775
Pendant needs to go to a special little girl who is compatible with the muse septimosome (glowy magic blood stuff that gives adepts their power and anime looks/personalities). Finding somebody who is fully compatible to transplant the septimasome into is extremely difficult. There soul needs to really resonate with the septima.

For adepts who are born with septima, this is no issue. Your septima is you. For transplants, usually it either kills you, or you'll get partial compatibility, in which case you end up like Asimov and Nova, and go insane and/or never reached your full potential.

Pantera is fully compatible with the muse. That's why people bring her up. In fact, Pantera became a muse in the final battle of GV2, but never had an associated Cardinal Guardian like the other muses. It's why Gunvolt was able to fuck her up so easily, despite Pantera being the absolute strongest muse by a mile.

The girls in the picture here are all muses or muse projections.
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>>563967447
>Pantera became a muse in the final battle of GV2
Until she got rejected.
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>>563967868
The Septima wasn't enough, she also needed to fuse with Mytyl with the latter acting as a conduit.
Only for Zonda to sing so badly it would spell the end of the world.
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>>563967447
>Pantera became a muse in the final battle of GV2, but never had an associated Cardinal Guardian like the other muses. It's why Gunvolt was able to fuck her up so easily

>Zed protects and saves Layla
>Lola is never in any real danger around Copen
>Joule is constantly getting kidnapped, hurt, and even dies at the end of GV2.
>GV then rejects his cosmic job of protecting her to live with the most boring girl and then chase after battle miko tail

Why is Gunvolt such a failure by every metric?

>>563967434
Moniqa and the Sumeragi execs as well. The Sumeragi execs are interesting though since they're so normal/ugly/unique looking when everyone else in Gunvolt are super cute or attractive. They're also the only characters who treat the anime stuff going around them as bizarre and openly complain about how the fate of their country being in the hands of a bunch of children. I would have liked to see way more of them.
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>>563967868
I thought it was Gunvolt strizering her that did it.
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>>563963436
Acura represents the normal human and he's calling for the blood of all septimals to flow like rivers in the streets.
The "minos position" is as evil as the Suneragi under Demerzel.
Zed's plan of letting ourselves fuck anime women into statistical irrelevance is far more humane than anything human governments carried out.
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>>563968740
No that was just making sure she doesn't try again.
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>>563968181
>Only for Zonda to sing so badly it would spell the end of the world.
Gunvolt just couldn't grasp the true form of Zonda's song.
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But why are muses so important? What's so great about their power?
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>>563968817
Copen has only met two adepts who weren't complete pricks with whom he could maybe possibly get along with. One of them got betrayed by another adept and killed. (but he got better in the mainline).
The other was stripped of her body down to her brain and had it wired into a machine in brutal and grotesque fashion by, uhh... that very same adept.
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>>563969563
They increase power and can revive you.
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>>563964674
This but with Cial.
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>>563969563
It's a very powerful septima that is probably on the cusp of a natural occuring octima.
Imagine an ability that just makes everyone better or control their minds at practically zero costs.
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>>563969563
They modulate the lifewave. Lifewave is what all the magic in Gal*Gun and Gunvolt is based upon. Since adepts are more influenced by the lifewave than other humans (aka anime brained), this means that a muse may brainwash an adept (major plot point of the first and third games).

Since a muse may amplify the lifewave, they may enhance the septima of an adept, which is what the villain wants to do globally in the second game.

Muses can track and catalogue septima, which along with enhancement, is what the badguy in iX used his muse for.

Muses projections are very effective spies, advisors, and confidants which is what Zed uses Luxia for more than anything else.

Muses can do dozens of other amazing and highly useful things for those who are allied with them. That's why everyone wants one. All muses except Zonda so far have been partnered with a Cardinal Guardian Beast.

This is also, by the way, why Lola's singing works on Copen, despite Copen not being an adept. He's probable is Senary, meaning he's a near-adept. He gets the superhuman stats without the physics breaking powers.
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>>563969563
Revive, tons of buffs, mind manipulation, making women very horny, and all of the adove with sound waves so a radio cast may just spead it worldwide.
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>>563969348
Zonda was too shit and the Muse rejected her.
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>>563971442
>lifewave = soundwave
Why didn't I see it before? It makes so much sense, especially when you read terms like resonating with the lifewave.

>>563971981
Wasn't that Joule rejecting her.
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>>563972103
That was life rejecting her.
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>>563971981
One shitty muse for the price of two was a bad deal either way.
Lola is pretty bad too, but that's to be expected from AI generated content. And it came of the cost of nothing.
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>>563972519
Cost of no Copen sex.
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>>563971442
>This is also, by the way, why Lola's singing works on Copen, despite Copen not being an adept. He's probable is Senary, meaning he's a near-adept. He gets the superhuman stats without the physics breaking powers.
Achshually Copen gets next to zero physical benefits from Roro's anthem. What changes is that Roro's A.S. Drive becomes supercharged and thus provides much more energy to his powerarmor, which is what allows him to dash indefinitely.
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>>563972964
Doesn't he die, and then Roro bring him back, or is that just gameplay abstractions, sort of like how killing you is OOC for a good number of adepts, even back in GV1 and GV2?
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>>563973527
>gameplay abstractions
Bingo.
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Why do all muses have this feel, anyway?
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>>563974160
Scratch Zonda out and you'd have a point.
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>Xiao-dear, I made chocolates for you. I've poured all of my love into them! I hope you consider that when you decide who gets the pendant.

>Um, I made you some chocolates too, and I hope you enjoy them. It's my first time making this sort of thing. I had to get Lola for help, but I think they turned out okay. I'd really like not being mute and stuck in my bed, but I understand if you gave my pendant to someone else. So please, just take my chocolates and be happy!
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>>563976017
>Light Novel canon compliant platinum blonde hair for Mytyl
Based. She only gets the anime hair after getting her septima back.
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>>563976017
>Implying the muse is a character we've already been introduced to
>Implying the pendant isn't going to an OC Tsuda shits out of his ass
You girls are so cute.
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>>563972519
Best ass in the whole IP tho.
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>>563977361
But that's wrong though.
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>>563958665
That's also making a case for Zonda being a muse considering change is her theme. Her powers allow her to transform into different versions of herself.
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>>563977361
don't make me tap the sign
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>>563906972
The esoteric Gunvolt/Asian mythology lore dumps about GV being centered in the guiding house of his heart who is Lumen makes me feel more like I am on an anime version of /tesg/.
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>>563942243
>It only takes a few bad apples to ruin the entire batch
That's not how that phrase works. Bad adepts existing doesn't make good or normal adepts bad as well, nor does it justify killing them all.
Racism is categorically wrong, anon. People don't work like that.
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>>563906972
I don't understand. Why does it bother you?
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>>563978589
It's exactly how that phrase works, you just don't like it because it's the truth.
>Racism is categorically wrong, anon. People don't work like that.
I bet that song would change tune real quickly if Ngubu could voodoo doll you from across the world and you just had to deal with it. That's the adept problem.
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>>563978589
>Racism is categorically wrong
>in the general that's actively racist to itself
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>>563979191
No, it's not, and no, it'd still be wrong. Even if my song did change, then I'd just be wrong.
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>>563976676
>pendant and muse powers goes to a character we know
>muse powers goes to a new character
>pendant never comes up; Xiao, or whoever the new shijin is, never gets a muse, despite every other shijin having one, and every GV game so far introducing a new one
>there is no new shijin, despite every prior game introducing a new one
>something else [elaborate]

Ignore the GV3 joke ending. Which one do you think is the most likely for INTI?
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>>563978364
He's not even covering the most esoteric aspects of Gunvolt lore
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>>563979730
Didn't they just have a new washed up Idolmaster singer on one of the Gunvolt/iX streams? We're totally getting a new character.
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>>563979730
Company crashes by next year tops.
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>>563954646
cute atlas
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>>563979720
>i'm just a good goyim for the septimitic
Oy gevalt!
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>>563979548
Exactly.

>>563980456
>i'm just racist and want to be right
Yeah, I know.
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>>563980143
That would honestly be so fucking funny. We'll never get answers to anything, it'll just be this eternal mystery for old fans to ponder over and make 8 hour youtube videos about.
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>>563979730
Man, that's such a good picture. I love the art of this series.
>what's next?
I'm too wound up in my fanfic sequel at this point to talk about that. Too much bias.
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>>563979730
The top two. Leaning towards the second, just because of what Xiao said in his secret ending. I'd like it to go to Zonda, because that would mean we'd have a crazy Gunvolt vs Eden vs Sumeragi scenario for GV4.

>>563980013
>We're totally getting a new character.
Whoever the pendant goes to, I would expect the actual singing to be done by a cyber d_______ projection. So hiring a new singer doesn't really mean that it's going to go to a new girl. It doesn't really confirm anything. Could be Mytyl or Zonda. Could be fucking Elise or some rando from Brazil. We don't know.

Do you know who this Idolmaster singer was, by the way?
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We must Lev.
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>>563981608
>Gunvolt vs Eden vs Sumeragi
That might actually happen. GV3's arc points towards GV having to confront Nova and Zonda again in GV4, but do it the right way. There are many lines of GV talking about regrets, doing things differently concerning them, getting guilted by both Sumeragi and Eden ghosts, or Morb showing him how he killed the people who could have saved him.
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>>563981098
The schizo fanfics on here that may be INTI having a laugh at us, the private stuff you're writing, or the terrible stuff on AO3 and FF?
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>>563981608
I was mistaken, it wasn't Idolmaster. It was Kurachi Reo who has been in musical anime shows.
Also it was an iX stream, so she's probably involved in the iX project.
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>>563982658
>Lola gets replaced AGAIN
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>>563979730
I'd want it to go to Zonda, because that would mean Xiao would have Eden backing, and we'd have the boss resurrection mechanic back from GV3. But Xiao won't hand the pendant to Eden. He will probably operate independently, manipulating everyone behind the scenes, like he was implied to do in GV2.
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>>563982797
They're slowly treading back to the original idea of Copen having 3 idols.
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>>563983150
You could still have boss resurrections. It'd just be Xiao independently boosting Sumeragi or Eden agents to fuck Gunvolt or for some other nefarious purpose. The bosses wouldn't know what's happening, but many of them would certainly appreciate it.
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>>563982658
Or she's just an enemy and never sings in the game.
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>>563979739
>Everyone lives on the boundary between dreams and reality...
You don't say.
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>>563982575
>schizo fanfics on here that may be INTI having a laugh at us
Oh, the irony.
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>>563983669
Could be, though I think her inclusion as co-MC on a stream along with Mayu is suspicious. Like, what makes her so special to warrant this?
Given that every role she's been in has been musical anime, you can't help but think it's a new cyberdiva.
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>>563979739
One of the most common theme in Morpho's tracks is the relationship between that of reality and dream. And she seems to imply rather heavily that the world she and Gunvolt inhabit is some sort of illusionary cosmic dream that they're trapped in and fated to constantly meet again, which is just further played into with Gunvolt's ultimate fate the end of 3. Literal reincarnation

>Cyan: "This world could just be a dream I'm having"
>Morpho: "Or maybe, it could be a vision you saw in the abyss of death"
>Cyan: "Surely it doesn't matter much anyway"
>Morpho: "All people live on top of the border of dream and reality"

This is further compounded in GV2 when Mytyl enters the picture. Where she dreams of GV, and at the end when she stops dreaming of him because she found happiness

GV2's Morpho album has little excerpts before the lyrics of each song where she contemplates if what she sees is real, a dream, or if there is even a difference between the two. Even the name of the album, 夢現の青 (Azure Trance): Into the Blue, references this
>現: reality
>夢: dream
>夢現: half asleep/half awake, a trance, (the border of) dream and reality)

The final excerpt says this:

>"All people live on top of the border of dream and reality. When you go beyond this Azure Trance, when time comes for us to meet again, I will surely be waiting for you."

It's only fitting that the dreamer's bad end form is that of a brain in a vat, stuck in a nightmare
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>>563983947
The irony that we do have schizolore shitposts, and we do have confirmed staff like their head of marketing in these threads? have you considered that the Venn diagram between these two groups may partially overlap? That they may think it's hilarious to mislead while sprinkling some truth into their predictive sludge? That they may just be tossing out ideas and drafts that were trashed onto us for the lulz?
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>>563984709
>we do have confirmed staff like their head of marketing in these threads
That's one of the shitposts.
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>>563984709
The irony that you're accusing anons of being schizo whole also thinking that those anons must be secretly Inti staff lurking /mmg/. Because, uh......
It's you, anon. You're the schizo. And the shitposter, probably, which means I shouldn't humor you.
>confirmed
lol
lmao
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Self-important retards that never leave their echo chamber thinking they're the hottest shit, and Tsuda personally gargles their balls. It does make me laugh every time I hear about an anon getting banned from twitter etc, because it reminds me this place is inhabited by braindead outcasts who have nowhere else to go because they're that fucking obnoxious. How in the fuck do you get banned from post-Elon twitter? oml
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>>563985541
>oml

woman
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>>563985541
>How in the fuck do you get banned from post-Elon twitter
You call him a certified retard. Usually does the trick.
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>>563984363
Think dreams could be thematic in GV4 too. GV won't remember everything about his past life, but he will remember some of it through dreamlike flashes, maybe call them Azure Dreams if you want to be really INTI. That way, it's not too easy for him, and keeps the internal conflict and potential for character growth and decay. The audience is also kept in a state of tension. Will he react like the old, ruthless, angry Gunvolt, or the regretful one from GV3 whose seen you don't need to exterminate your enemy to win.
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>thread seems more insane than usual
>check the news
>just the MM64 release
>not even the topic of the insanity
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>>563986401
Remember the month of Zonda? It's like that, but now with extra fanfic and GV4 coping.
The years have not been kind.
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>>563986401
I don't understand it either. All of this over one little pendant.
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>>563986401
wake me up when they take away the fog because it's 64, add dual sticks and native 60fps on any resolution + undub
otherwise i will still sleep because these walls of text and repetition are getting worse and i prefer to cope with local text prediction while in the SF2 mines
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>>563986746
>Remember the month of Zonda?
I do not remember that.

>>563987150
I suppose I walked into that one.
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>>563986401
>inti thread talking about inti
Truly insane.

>>563987759
>I do not remember that.
That's on you, anon.
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>>563986746
>Remember the month of Zonda? It's like that, but now with extra fanfic and GV4 coping.
This thread has convinced me that Xiao discussion produces more lunacy than any other GV character. The Xiao posting is ridiculous now, but can you imagine what it's going to be like if the next game actually makes him the antagonist. Or worse, the playable Eden representative like Zed was for ATEMS?
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kinda sick that legends collection will be announced Q4 this year
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>>563988710
Xiao's only a meme because he's an unsolved mystery they've left hanging for 10 years. As soon as they start providing answers, he'll get knocked down to Copen or Kirin levels.
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>>563988620
>inti thread talking about inti
You subhumans talk about literally anything other than Inti.
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>>563984219
https://youtu.be/CO_sK1iPq6g
Villain Muse?
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>>563989039
All of your dreams, no matter how unlikely, will come to pass if Xiao would just relinquish the pendant.
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>boot up super alloy crush
>dash on A button
>first line of story is already wordsalad
truly the chinese have caught up
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>>563990214
She has nice pitch on her voice. Sounds like Roro is about to get mogged.
Again.
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>>563990690
Super alloy crush is extremely okay. Not great, not bad, just okay. It's fun.
>first line of story is already wordsalad
Except that. I can't even judge the story because the translation is complete dogshit.
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>>563990214
>Villain Muse?
So wouldn't work well for a Zonda cyber projection.
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>>563989039
>NOTHING

>>563990690
Hey, salad is good for you.
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>>563991192
Sure but we're keeping her ass dead.
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>>563991658
You'd have to re-kill her, or get someone else to do it.

>>563991360
Dammit Xiao, I can't wait until your twink Chinese ass gets what's coming. The time between now and Gunvolt 4's release is going to be pure torture.
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>>563992056
That's cute. All the main problem causers of their respective game. What bad kids. But what is Copen doing there?
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>>563991360
>Hey, salad is good for you.
A well-prepared Chinese salad is the best.
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>>563992056
Heavier dose of Chinese rat poison it is.
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>>563992759
burmese tea leaf salads are really fucking good
granted it's mostly oil and nuts, but
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mu means nothing
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>>563993040
Follow the name that means unnamed.
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>>563992858
sir you're supposed to call it myammarese now
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>>563960304
>>563962885
iX2 has several hints that it's a timeline where Copen (somehow) took down Nova and Eden on his own, mostly Mother having EX weapons based on them. If he ended up being the scientist-god-emperor of humanity then it makes sense he took down all threats in his way.
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>>563986746
>new people brought in after release of triangle edition
>noob sees comment about how lovable zonda is
>flips out because 8-4 really fucked her characterization and made her super evil and hateable
>autist posts Japanese scripts/translation + side material + INTI's own English translations that directly contradicts 8-4 translations (sometimes they are literally opposite)
>reheated arguments over localization
>repeat for month and a half until noobs leave or all on the same page

Is that a good summary.
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>>563994186
>iX2 has several hints that it's a timeline where Copen (somehow) took down Nova and Eden on his own, mostly Mother having EX weapons based on them
I'm not buying it. The guy who had to get bailed out 5 times in one game getting past Gunvolt, Asimov, Nova AND the entirety of Eden all on his own? Without ever going airborne? That is some military grade cope fantasy nonsense not even the magic alien dragon fetus could dream up.
I'm not saying you're wrong, but we know for a fact he doesn't need to defeat adepts to copy their powers. He just has to trail behind someone actually capable of beating them.
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>>563968364
>middle aged
>bald
>ugly
We call those "gaki bait" anon
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>>563991192
Or it could be perfect. Her alt form is already pretty villainous. And despite her being empathetic, she's still the most ruthless of the muses. She's utilitarian, willing to sacrifice some innocents to "save" everyone. She wants to kill a lot of nonadepts because her mind has been so warped. She's also capable of being extremely deceptive, though I think Eden's Party confirms she's pretty genuine around her inner circle, especially Gibril and Teseo (the two she plays with the most). She takes no pleasure in doing any of the evil stuff, and will even push back on evil for evil's sake, but she's totally willing to do what she feels she needs to construct a utopia for her people.

Finally, she's seen and experienced the absolute worse things of all the muses. She's been abused, starved, beaten, ostracized, poisoned, etc. Most of her first adopted family died, either from the elements or from nonadept abuse. And then she saw it happen to many other adepts, and worse, like the factories where they grind up adepts to make reagents or the dead body pits.

So add it all together, and you'd get a more evil sounding projection.
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>>563995369
Greed Snatcher lets him punch far above his weight; even Asimov had to be wary of that thing and he only got grazed.
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>>563997264
Few points in Zonda's favors are that she's a muse, that INTI art implies there's some sort of connection between her and Xiao, and that Shadow Arcana is really popular coming up on the potential announcement of GV4.

Points against are that Xiao explicitly said he would not give the pendant to Eden, Xiao would have a really hard time manipulating Zonda, Zonda isn't completely helpless, so breaks the trend of the other damsel in distress muses, and finally, Shadow Arcana is really popular coming up on the potential announcement of GV4 (INTI sometimes likes to swim upstream against trends).

Xiao is more likely to go after Mytyl since she's pliable. But then, with Mytyl, you'd probably just get a Lumen-like projection, and >>563990214 doesn't sound like what her projection would sound like anyway. Some more Nobeta Zonda anyway.
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>>563996775
I barely recognized her. Good costume.
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Who will be GV's girl in GV4? A familiar face, a former enemy, someone new, or nobody?
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>>563996775
>>563999193
Literally who
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>>563997323
And it also had the intended effect of weakening, yet Asimov still completely shat all over Copen. In a fight the latter presumably should've won, yet didn't and had to be bailed out.
No amount of theorycrafting is ever going to convince me that Copen, of all characters, could clutch out a victory like that. Multiple times even. He's just not that guy. He's not HIM.

Copen is the type who would've met a pathetic end at the hands of an adept, at very start of the game, if a random minos girl hadn't passed by and bailed him our with a smoke grenade in time. THAT's Copen.
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>>563999321
Roro.
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>>563999809
Asimov has about a decade of battlefield experience over Copen and Gunvolt.
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>>563999321
Mytyl
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>>564000121
Sure, and in my last example Copen had a hundred years of combat experience, doing him... No good at all, really.
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>>563999791
Dats Lev.
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There will NOT be a Gunvolt announcement in May/June.

And even if there is an announcement, it will be for iX3, and you won't have anything to talk about because it will be completely disconnected from everything else.
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>>563999809
I'm pretty sure Copen is the only character to go a full game without losing/dying/drawing once right now, actually. He objectively kinda is that guy now
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>>564000789
Nah, because that wasn't even a real released Gunvolt game, and a Copen still died unceremoniously off screen to a space prune. So he's still a fraud, just by proxy.
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>GV4
>Cope goes after GV
>GV beats him up but spares him

How'd he rationalize it, especially if it happens a few times? With the adepts, they'd easily accept it. Most of them have shown or been shown mercy in the past. But not Copen. He thinks adepts are pure evil.
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>>564000270
>No good at all
He survived all those decades. Killing an untold number of Falcons and apparently evading death/capture by Sumeragi. And even if the timeskip was just a twist given at the very end, he deserves SOME credit.
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>1: GV would have lost to Elise, got shot and died, needs anthem
>2: GV and Cope draw to each other twice, dying to Seven Slashes and getting anthem is probably canon considering the original DS Zonda fight
>iX: Loses/draws to Blade 3 times, draws with Asimov
>3: Dragon GV gets low diffed by Kirin, Kirin dies to GV and needs anthem
>iX2: Perfect record
Honestly everyone's record is kinda unimpressive when you consider that they're all relying on Anthem to save them from real fights. Even iX1 Copen, jobber that he is, living through hundreds if not thousands of fights with no anthem and no real confirmed power ups in 100 years is kinda crazy in context, when he just goes flawless as soon as he gets a modern boost
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>>564002580
Gunvolt's canon record is those S+ Rank Fearless Kudos playthroughs. It's been confirmed that he sandbags against practically everyone. So the first time he was ever in real danger was his fight with Nova.
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>>564002580
The moral of the story? Always follow pro wrestling narration and allow yourself to be beat within an inch of your life, because that makes you the heroic underdog with the come-from-behind victory against all odds.
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>>563981608
>Gunvolt vs Eden vs Sumeragi
What would the boss roster of that even look like? You couldn't do all of them, both because that'd be too many stages and there'd be timeline conflicts preventing you from doing so, especially if it took place during GV1.
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>>564002972
>Kudos are canonically how cool/how good you feel about the violence you're unleashing.
He was kind of a shithead.
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>>564002972
That doesn't really change cutscenes though, so at best you take out Seven Slashes
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>>564000787
iX3: The Into Gunvolt
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>>564002972
Is that why he felt so guilty in GV3? I know the Quinn short has him say he could use any of his powers nonlethally, but doesn't because he thinks his enemies could come back with a new trick and better prepared, so he always makes sure to kill them. It's like most of his opponents weren't really all that dangerous to him, and he still went maximum lethality.

>>564003164
Probably why Kirin's kudos count can get so much higher than Copen or Gunvolt's. She feels much better and much cooler about herself.
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>>564000787
It's likely we're getting an iX3. Tai always envisioned the spinoff to be a trilogy, but I honestly don't understand why after seeing what he did with the 2nd game.
Like, is it just going to be a matryoshka doll of alternate timelines interacting with alternate timelines? Can you even call this a 'series'?
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>>564003182
Anthem's power is to resuscitate you by amplifying bioelectrical signals and restarting your heart; you never actually "die." It's like a magical defibrillator. So Tenjian had to pretty much kill himself to accomplish nothing.
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>>564003013
Nix Milas since he doesn't formally join the G7 until late into GV1. Zonda would not be on the Sumeragi roster. Stratos was never really in Sumeragi. You can take Desna out of Eden for story reasons if you choose (she may get a vision and decide to back Gunvolt). Now you're down to 5 v 5 regular bosses. Elise is really popular, but you can take her out too as she's not that loyal to Sumeragi and would fold easy to a nonedgy GV. I wouldn't want to, since that would leave us with only one girl among the regular bosses. There's way of getting us down to 4 v 4 if that is what's desired.
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Whenever I see Z/ZX characters I think of Medabots and not Megaman.
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>>564004662
fair
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Were these shitters meant to be actual reincarnations of the Four Guardians? I imagine this is what Leviathan would look like if she was genderswapped and had her helmet removed.
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>>564003673
>So Tenjian had to pretty much kill himself to accomplish nothing.
That whole Belladen section was meant to make you feel a bit like a badguy. First the mooks trying to slow GV down so they can evacuate all those too young or wounded to pick up a gun. Then Tenjian using his last breath to try to take GV out to save his sister, and it doing nothing. Afterwards, Zonda's nakama trying to stop GV and dying to him. Then Zonda transforming into a magical girl powered by love and carrying the memories of her nakama on her shoulders, even getting her own muse song, even if it's not reflected in game. Yet she still loses, and Gunvolt taunts her as she's dying and calling out to her dead brother because all he has is contempt for what she did to Joule, even after learning about her shit life.
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>>564005253
dats not lev
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what if the pendant does nothing
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>>564005253
No, they're wildly different to the four Guardians with only some minor surface similarities. Harpuia isn't a rich kid up his own ass. Fefnir doesn't hate the weak, he just likes fighting. Leviathan like the rest of the Guardians actually likes humans and doesn't try to genocide them over minor pollution considering that she was built to clean up global pollution from the aftermath of the Maverick Wars. Phantom is super serious with a sense of duty, not some mindless bot. Also, we know what Leviathan's hair looks like and it's not really like Thetis'.
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>>564006642
Then Xiao loses nothing by giving it to me.
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>>564006963
>give Zonda a pendant that does nothing
>gets her killed anyway because it did nothing to her powers
Would be the funniest prank.
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>>564006808
>Harpuia isn't a rich kid up his own ass
Yeah, he's just a prideful general who wanted to drop a nuke on a base he knew had a human living there
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>>564003562
If we follow the trends of iX1 and iX2, it'll be some bad future twist on GV3. As for why a trilogy, maybe because what ever happens in GV4 will conclude the main series. There won't be a "bad end" to explore for GV4. The bad end for GV4 was ironically, GV1 and basically the rest of the series. Either that, or GV4 is a "reboot," and isn't even numbered 4.
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>>564007290
That was Leviathan actually, because of Elpizo's stunt.
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>>564007195
>Would be the funniest prank.
Nothing is funnier.
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>>564007290
>Nooooooo you can't nuke terrorists
>Who cares if Neo Arcadians die during an offensive lead by the Resistance on Neo Arcadia
>Think of the heckin Cielerino
What a stupid post.
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Gunvolt and all the tropes it copied are played out.
That's why the 3rd one gave us Zed; he's meant to be a successor. He's the perfect embodiment of modern wish fulfillment MCs.
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>>564007195
Consider that Zonda goes to Teseo and Gibril for life advice in Eden's Party. Sure, on serious political and military matters, it's Tenjian and Desna. But if it's "ideas on how to cheer this guy up" or "how should I plan this party," it's Teseo and Gibril. In fact, she's convinced that Teseo is a wiseman. That's the level of naïveté we are dealing with.
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if we clear one stage every 45 minutes we can see the king
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>>564009296
I really don't remember the inbetween stages much but I do remember Z2 having some stages that take hours just like the one we did yesterday, hopefully it's none of the next three.
In Saisei I never took the super route but there was the 00 finale and that took me like 3 hours.
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>>564009063
Gunvolt usually takes anime clichés and puts a dark twist on them. Like how would normal people actually react to a shonen anime battle breaking out in downtown (not very well). What separates it from the usual anime slop is that it will usually try to justify the ridiculousness of a 13-year-old superhacker in charge of a military base with its metaphysics and world building. Or that the neon colored hair and eyes are the results of magic glowy stuff in the blood, that also allows people to shoot lasers and fireballs. Or that the reason there are so many young people with powers is because this was the first generation to see a significant these superpowered children born. It does try to be internally consistent with its anime absurdism. GV3 was the game which broke a lot of these conventions, which is why people are mixed on it.
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>>564005253
No, they're just a bunch of retards brainwashed into furthering Albert's agenda while being so deeply brainwashed they jump through mental gymnastics to claim they're in fact not brainwashed when they are.
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>>564010019
>try to justify the ridiculousness of a 13-year-old superhacker in charge of a military base
That's anime slop thoughbeit.
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>>564010494
The justification is typically that adepts have superintelligence and they're capable of running rings around nonadepts, even as teens. Almost all adepts in GV1/2 are very young, because there has been a recent explosion in their population. The world is also a shithole, so child labor is normalized. Finally, Sumeragi isn't really a formal military force, and there are some branches of it that are all for adepts being the future of humanity, so thrust adepts into positions of prominence. So that's the justification. This gets phased away over time, and by iX's time, when everyone is an adept, they're not employing children, because they have supergenius, supercompetent adult adepts. So they do a bit of work trying to justify all of that.
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>Gunvolto
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>>564011256
She looks at this boy and gets a strange, unfamiliar feeling of dread.
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>>564011256
It is absolutely mandatory for Zondas to violate personal space.
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>>564011256
Too tall
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>>564011914
>It is absolutely mandatory for Zondas to violate
You should have stopped there
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>>564011914
Also mandatory to get their existence violated from life.
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>Capcom hired president Mori to chill Pagmata and attack Iran
Inti might have more trouble hiring her now.
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>>564015493
Xiao, help. Gunvolt's coming. We can't hold him. Xiao, please, we need the pendant. The J-pop is getting closer.
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>>564016175
Capcom hired a clanker too.
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We are out of Mega and out of Man.
What does that make us?
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>>564016939
Not true
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>>564016194
>smug loss
Patrician tastes
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>>564016175
>chill
shut up, esl
>pagmata
shut up, esl
>general off-topic posting
shut up, esl
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>>564017018
Please don't.
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>>564016194
It’s okay, he’s nicer this time. What does that mean? Don’t worry about it. Try and talk it out, and keep an open mind.
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>>564016939
Someone in good company.
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It's time for Episode 8 of prophesied 2nd Super Robot Wars Z: Broken World Chapter.

https://parsec.gg/g/38gXmTiAVEvCVv85P6Krz86iKwm/nkmeivjs/

Expect bugs/crashes, numerous untranslated things, numerous incorrectly translated things, and a new wave of bugs from a new way of rendering text.

Starting at XX:00
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>>564017527
Fucking Xiao. I'm going to chop you up and make turtle soup out of you.
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>>564017204
It's probably still going to hurt a lot. I've been shocknifed before. It sucks.
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>>564018049
Do not spank Zonda, that will only make her hornier! And it will make Gerbil pout until she gets a turn.
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>>564018246
If she wants the cattle prod fine then.
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So now we have to deal with this pendantposting from INTI on top of everything else. As if this general couldn't get any worse.
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>>564018692
All the pendantposts made me want a canonical Xiao and Zonda interaction.
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>>564018692
And what is "everything else"
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>>564019189
Shantae, Tanya the Evil and now Precure.
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>>564019048
>Xiao gives Zonda the pendant
>it's a fake that does nothing
>gets her heavily damaged
>Xiao comes from behind and kills her from behind while taking her septima
>this is how a new Muse is made
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>>563995539
In the GVerse, these alarms are rallying cries so gakis congregate on a target.
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>>563986746
>GV4 coping
How can this general already be coping about it when a trailer hasn't even been released? There's been no drama over it. It hasn't been stuck in dev hell. They announced that it was planned last year, and so far, they've been periodically giving us reasonable signals that its in development. Nothing to really freak out about right now.
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>>564016175
Of all the things I'd thought I'd see in my life, Presidenta Mori getting repeatedly bodyslammed by a middle-aged Iranian woman was not something I could have actually imagined.
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>>564019578
Couls see something like that, but it'd be a bit of a letdown. Xiao's supposed to be her white rabbit. Let him lead her into insanity.
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>>564019892
Everybody forgetting Kingdom's Return is like in 5 days and Inti's losing money making mid songs again. You might exactly get GV4 dev hell.
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>>564019741
>shitty adult means "gang rape this man"
>unc means "this one is marked by another gaki gang"
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>>564003561
Thank you for supplying me with good Kirins. I have a hard time finding them.
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>>564019741
No they're not. Shut the hell up.
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>>564017752
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHTFKYUTmGU
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>>564019741
In the GVerse it's the middle aged wagies who has to carry an anti rape wistle. Most even attach them to their briefcases.
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>>564020079
That would've actually been more interesting than "Featuring the Return of Lumen as a Hologram of a Hologram"
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>>564020114
>You might exactly get GV4 dev hell.
Maybe. But like others have said, GV4 seems to be the game they really wanted to make. GV3 was just one long setup for GV4. The entire game was just an excuse to get GV to reconsider his violent ways, make him feel bad for Nova and Eden, then send him to the past. It's why it feels like such a side story in comparison to GV1 and GV2. It leaves the major problem of the game unsolved, but gives GV the mission statement for the next game right before it ends. That's why it's so light on the series' overarching themes and doesn't really seem to care very much about anything else, plot wise.
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>>564020079
The fake pendant was the lead up to insanity.
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>>564020771
It's inti. They're going to forget it mid development and you'll end up killing both in the same game instead of in two games.
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>>564020114
I am waiting.
even if i saw some of the game files and spoilers
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>>564020829
Well, the pendant definitely unleashed insanity in this thread.
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>>564020914
Could happen. But they've gotten a bit soft with GV. Even in iX2, they gave a mercy route if you played on hard. Honestly wish that's how GV4 handled it, but I understand that that would require too much writing, and I'd rather have more amusing dialogue and character interaction throughout than two routes with no dialogue and then a blurb at the end where it says that everyone survived.
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>>564020771
>Let's take a page from the MCU and undo the Morb Thanos snap with a convoluted multiverse time travel plot
It's actually over. To be fair, I guess the cracks started to show with iX2.
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Why not make Majogami the next flagship series?
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>>564020914
>>564020771
I would definitely expect Nova as the midgame boss due to sequel escalation. Maybe Sumeragi as the part 1 enemies, sort of like how GV3 has two enemy teams.

>>564021429
GV2 was what caused the cracks in the first place. We might consider it the high point of the series, story, music, and setting wise. INTI considered it to have been an overly dark and depressing note they didn't want to leave the series on.

>>564021535
It had the bad luck of coming out after GV3.
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>>564021121
Yeah, two routes would be best. Maybe three! Both sparing and killing have more meaning when the player makes that decision. Especially if the non-lethal and/or 'true' ending is more difficult. Earn that happy ending.

>>564021535
I'd like that.
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>>564021535
>flagship
>could not sell even a fraction of a fraction of the worst-selling Gunvolt game
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>>564021752
The GV1/2 cameo characters were so much better than the new characters in GV3 that I can see why they wanted to be writing around them.
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>>564021920
Sounds like it would have an easier time fixing it's act than Gunvolt now.
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>>564021752
>It had the bad luck of coming out after GV3.
I can see the similarities, but I don't think they're fair.
Setsuna isn't like Arc Flash, it's like Specter Knight's dash attack. Just because this general doesn't want to talk about Shovel Knight doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
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>>564022176
Everyone's going to buy GV4 because it's going to pander like crazy. It's going to give everyone whose wanted to spare Elise for or banter with Eden, and everyone will forget GV3. It's going to have some sort of arc chain system with tweaks, because it's fun and it clearly establishes Gunvolt as being way stronger than Copen.
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>>564022203
It's because Shovel Knight mogs Classic Mega Man at being Mega Man and no one wants to admit it.
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>>564022442
I wouldn't go that far. And I think it's because of /pol/shit.
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>>564022442
The sequel games sure but vanilla SK is very mediocre.
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And this thread is off to the great beyond, just like Zonda will be without the pendant.
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>>564022754
Pantera endures, as do the hopes of mankind.
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>>564022419
Or they don't pander at all and they all got taken on a ride.
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>>564023651
Depends on how's their ramen budget is looking.
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>>564023496
With the pendant, she'd be immortalized as a full on muse. At this point, for Xiao, I feel it's either Zonda or some OC that's going to piss off all the Zondafags.

Concerning Mytyl, I think she's going to get Joule's septimosome. Joule wants to be a normie, Mytyl wants to be a magical girl, they can just swap. That's where I'd take if I was aiming for a happy end.
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>>564024263
>some OC that's going to piss off all the Zondafags
This is the correct answer.
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GV4 aka GV1: Choque ao Extremo will be a Gunvolt game for the Modern Audience.
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>>564024339
Possible, and it'd make sense in character, but narratively unsatisfying. Besides that, finding somebody out of the blue who is as compatible with the muse as Zonda/Joule/Mytyl is supposed to be really, really hard, so it'd feel a little like an asspull.
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>>564024624
They asspulled a reset they can asspull a body.
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>>564024950
Yeah, that's true. I wouldn't understand the point, especially if they go with a muse with a darker or more villainous tenor.
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>>564025256
Call it next time ya nerd



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