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I don't know how to feel about this
Recent news:New book from bitmaphttps://x.com/bitmap_books/status/2044305186219303284
>>563760946i do
Krauser "Teaser"https://x.com/FATALFURY_PR/status/2044732547939328475
>>563761331Looks way too static.>>563760946Is cool but no one's buying this with those price.
>>563762301Thats the price for EVERYTHING. And given what neo geo crap goes for second hand it's honestly not too bad. Definitely a super fan item though.
>>563762301My bro, is not a mini Super Nes, not a 20€ licensed megadrive...IT'S A FUCKING REAL* NEOGEO*emphasis on real****real fucking hardware******it uses real cartridges
>>563764645great, so the 5 people who bought 3000 dollar cartridges on ebay can use them on it
>>563764645No one’s losing sleep over your “real” prehistoric console, least of all at that price.
it's just a funny distraction from the fact that snk can't catch up to the future so they bring up the pastagainwith the same past pricing
>>563760946I hope you guys realize, much like they did with Real Bout 2 on steam, that SNK will probably push the censored versions with no blood/jiggle for these releases.
>>563770018I hope you realize, that that was a location toggle on the original cart
>>563770557and so you're saying you can location toggle in the steam port
Shock Troopers was not released for AES originally, pretty amazing getting an official release in 2026.
>>563773642I'm saying this isn't steam
>>563773642No, retard.
>>563770557I hope you realize that no such thing will be included and that it'll all be censored by default.
>>563774437>>563774736why notit's 2026not 1826
CvS3 would have made this crossover kino...
Terry has never been fun in any game he’s been in.Prove me wrong
It's amazing how you find more interest and enthusiasm for the "new" Neo Geo anywhere except on /neog/.
I want a Fatal Fury remake.
>>563787394We don’t usually lie to ourselves here. Fake hype has never translated into sales or new players for SNK.
>I want X remake
>>563787556Already got one
>>563784943Terry is cool on a visual level, but I don't think his fighting style is that exciting as a fighting game character.Like basically every KoF MC is more interesting than Terry as a fighter imoI'd say he is better than Ryo overall, but whenever Ryo had his big punch super as something he could throw in neutral for big rewards even Ryo was more interesting than Terry imo
kyo is the least interesting "mc" retardthat's why we have good old hungry wolf as the face of the company againTERRY FUCKING WON WOLFPACKAWROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
>>563792164Won so much his game is the death of modern snkIt be like that sometimes
>>563787394Enthusiasm for overpriced hardware that doesn't even ship to most countries?
>>563792164I'll take Kyo over K' and his pronounceable apostrophe. The older I get the more annoying these "too cool to emote always tongue clicking" assholes are.
rugal only looks good in sprites
>>563818734Or the modelers are crap. 15 didn't capture his shredded, mean aura at all. Looks like a villain from a kids cartoon. At least they got Geese right this time. Looks based.
>>563787875This lol. Everywhere else online, where people have user names and can be banned for being brutally honest, are typically too scared to tell the truth in case they get downvoted or dogpiled. Pathetic what forums have become.
>>563784943>prove me wrong that I don't have fun!
>>563761331I'll reserve my full judgement. If you look at the FF2 version, there are fire torches and candles burning, and a moving orchestra. Feels alive. If the new one is just a completely still audience in hall with nothing else, it looks grand, but hollow. Glad he has his own stage, though, so I'll wait and see.
>>563784943I wouldn't go that far but yeah I always liked playing Andy and Joe over him.
When's the Fatal Fury movie?>>563760946What's going on?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gX0Btbbddxk
>>563829835Mai's shower scene....
>NEOGEO AES+ Ultimate Edition>900€>20 000 units12 000 pre orders already
https://youtu.be/k4ceRh4zn0Y?si=iQgcH4YF7HuySRF0Krauser
>>563838956Japanese video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O77kyXmXV5gThe VA sounds old.
>>563841082>The VA sounds old.He is also old himself
>One of them sits next to you on the kof 98 cabinet, which one ?
>>563842062Sucre is my bro
>>563842062i only know who two of these guys are
>>563829835After the KOF movie?Never.
>>563838956>>563841082I'm so used to Rugal being the one using Kaiser Wave nowadays I almost forgot it was Krauser's move first and did a double take at the end there.
>>563838956>>563841082>Crowd filled with soulless low-poly models that are just blankly staring towards the stage>No orchestra playing>Dies Irae is a mediocre, less-cool, low-budget techno remix that somehow has less energy than the original>stage is static as all hell, doesn't even have something like lighting happening, or something as small as the lit candles happening like in the original stage 20+ years agoHow is it possible for these devs to be THIS soulless? The 1992 stage looks and feels more alive than this. Jeez man why is it seemingly impossible for these guys to make anything cool/appealing. Their sense of aesthetics and presentation are sterile as fuck. The complete opposite of their past selves.
>>563850178>Dies Irae is a mediocre, less-cool, low-budget techno remix that somehow has less energy than the originalthey all have less energy than the mozart original when performed by a live ensemble yes you are correct
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECMSBreY6Vs
>>563838956>voiced by Jiren/ScorpionCool.>>563850178I don't think they're even trying in the first place.
Krauser's story for COTW (Link: https://www.snk-corp.co.jp/us/games/fatalfury-cotw/characters/krauser.php):>Ruled the sinister underbelly of society as the Emperor of Darkness, until he fell in battle to the resilient fang of the Hungry Wolf—or so the rumors, spread by his own offspring, would have the public believe. Now, years later, the son of the sovereign has a fighting tournament of his own; for Krauser, whose ruthlessness has only grown with time, it is the perfect chance to strike. The stage is set—not a requiem for the fallen, but an overture to revenge.In short, seems like him killing himself is now easy to be seen as an in-universe rumor and that both Krauser men (Rudolf and his son Franz, the host of the tournament) do not see eye to eye. Here's a thought: was this really how Oda and the production team (not wanting Franz to be the real antagonist despite him being mentioned to be the tournament's host)? No leaks on Franz to be a new playable character down the road?
>>563854916>but an overture to revenge.oh wow so he'll actually be a dick and not some misunderstood tran
>>563854916...I didn't know Krauser had a kid
>>563857794Until City of the Wolves, there wasn't any real indication. Even in COTW, Franz is only mentioned in passing (despite being the host and presumably holding Geese's Legacy), I don't think we've even seen him yet.
Another update next Friday? Does the game need any other changes aside from making Rev Blow unsafe on block?
>>563859975too numerous to list
>>563854916>Krauser leaks before the game is even out>CotW drops the "Stroheim" name as the host of the tournament>Even if you didn't follow the leaks, there was only one living Stroheim ever introduced in this point in the franchise>"It was actually his son-"Genuinely retarded company. This would be if Adelheid and Rose were characters that never showed up on-screen at any point. Even XIII gave them a half-assed cutscene ending. They NEVER alluded to the idea he had a son at any point, otherwise we would've been talking about this shit by now. How is the supposed finale of Fatal Fury that put effort into its writing this bad at showing us the story?
>>563860785ummmMmmmm yoU neeD To reAd theWikI, cHuD
>>563850178Gonna have to agree. Very happy that one of my favorites is in, and has a stage (should be standard, really). But it could have been way more 'epic'. Even something simple, like the roof being glass and lightning, thunder flashing in the sky. I will say, at least the people fidget and move.
>>563861189Bro the fucking wiki didn't have an Heir of Stroheim page until today. This shit was NEVER brought up at any point in-game or out. Oda never even alluded to the fact Krauser had a son. This is a massive lack of information in a game that wastes its time on complete fucking nonsenseIt's somehow worse than all prior KOF stories since at least those knew never to take its roster filler seriously. Here we don't even know the host of a Fatal Fury tournament despite literally being the son of the man who ruined Geese's life and effectively kickstarted the entire franchise. Like what's the actual fucking point of this game
>>563855919>so he'll actually be a dick and not some misunderstood tranHe may preach about fighting honorably (if brutally), but he is a crime lord too (and a better one if he's called "Emperor of Darkness" and his reach my be all of Europe) and he's the one man Geese feared (owing to how Wolfgang interfered in Geese trying to murder their father Rudolf). You can also see his suicide (before it was retconned) as proof Krauser can still have an ego and his defeat at Terry's hands as proof that you really shouldn't take anything out of an individual's mouth as proof of his or her mouth, and in Wolfgang's case, he failed to really accept that he can be beaten.In short, Wolfgang was not really a nice guy in the first place.
>>563861575you clearly don't understand stroheim development
>>563850178This could've been a clever reversal of perspective, a reversal of theme, etc. But they're not skilled enough to pull it off :(
>>563861761Meant "you really shouldn't take anything out of an individual's mouth as proof of his or her character".
>>563861575Said it before. The people who created these IPs and loved the characters aren't there anymore. The people in charge of current SNK weren't there at the company's peak, and do not have the same eye for detail.
>>563862645Yeah but you'd think those type of people would be pushing for new slop entirely. Instead SNK is weirdly cursed with this geriatric interest in 80s/90s culture controlling a bunch of millennial/zoomer puppets to shit out their supposed dream game, like a boomer obsessed with AI making him besties with Jesus and RamboSo the soullessness of the game is interesting on every other level than the game itself, which is a net negative for interesting
Of course Wolfgang fucks, just look at him.
>FATAL FURY: City of the Wolves will receive a major update on April 24 to mark its first year of release. Details of the update will be announced during a special stream on April 23.>A supercharged City of the Wolves showcase!>Join voice actors Takashi Kondo and Chika Anzai as we look back on a mammoth first year of Fatal Fury—featuring video retrospectives, community comments, dev team greetings, and more. The program will also include special video messages from players in the esports scene and details about the aforementioned major update.>Date>April 23, 2026 (12:00–12:30 PM JST / 03:00–03:30 AM UTC, tentative)>Appearances>Takashi Kondo (Japanese VA: Terry Bogard)>Chika Anzai (Japanese VA: Preecha)>Hayato Konya (CotW director)>Tetsuya Yamamoto (CotW art director)>Stream URL>SNK Official YouTube:>https://www.youtube.com/@SNK_OfficialChannel
>>563863778>Hayato Konya
>>563859307Where is it mentioned that Franz is the host? We only know it's a Stroheim.
>>563864734ok so reading up on this guy after actually getting time to do sohttps://www.mobygames.com/person/986410/hayato-konya/credits/>his first game was snk heroineslol
>>563866620I can't remember where or if it's flat out said - maybe it was on the site or something - but Kain's rival cutscene with Billy has him ask if he stole the legacy from Franz (specifically namedropping him), and the host of the tournament claims that the legacy was in his possession. Billy's story also has it as a plot point that Geese's legacy was stolen by a "mysterious man", but it's not actually touched on in his story, the legacy is just there by the rival fight.Franz was also claimed to be part of Season 3 back when those leaks happened.
>>563861761He's a brutal crime boss like you said, but the fact that he would value fighting honorably at least gives him more virtue as a character than Geese or Mr. Big. So the idea that he's the one to remain an unrepentant villain over those two is odd to me, but I guess I'll wait to see.
>>563863541>Yeah but you'd think those type of people would be pushing for new slop entirely.They're not confident in their own ideas yet, because even using classic nostalgia IPs - the surefire way to make money - have barely been profitable due to their fumbles. Add that fumbling tendency to a IP and it is a disaster waiting to happen. Trust me, if SNK games were doing 2 milly each, the probability that they'd be making all sorts of new IPs goes up. They don't wanna take the risk, cause they ain't confident enough yet.>>563864734>>563866818kek. Explains a lot. I was telling people in the kof 15 days, the people at nu snk have basically zero experience. It wasn't boomer modelers putting out those kinds of work.
Well it seems some of the news at the "Special Livestream" on the 23rd will be the new UI change.
Why the fuck wouldn't they give the new people they hire a chance to lead, you retards. Kuroki, Oda, etc. won't be around forever. And SNK heroines was his first game , that means he worked on three games before COTW
>>563866620Do you fuckers even play the game?
>>563861761He tried to kill himself because he didn't think he deserved to live because he lost, not that he couldn't accept defeat, dumbass. It can't be difficult to understand these simple ass stories, but you manage to.
>>563871201>kek. Explains a lot. I was telling people in the kof 15 days, the people at nu snk have basically zero experience. It wasn't boomer modelers putting out those kinds of work.what? you're supposed to shit on me for my personality for ALWAYS hating on (nu)snk and never giving them credit, and also you forgot to call me retarded, why did you forget all this?! obviously people should be able to detect which poster is me
>>563873807Oh absolutely, I clear my schedule every day just to not play it. I wouldn’t touch that boring mess even if SNK paid me
>>563873634>Why the fuck wouldn't they give the new people they hire a chance to leadbecause, you don't give a newbie a big project to direct to start off with, you step them up and mentor them through smaller projects to get them acquainted with things like directing traffic and project managementand going by this resume, it's clear he hasn't gone through those growing pains yet, it's why i said snk should train their naive ass talent on small titles they can release as shovelware on like steam or w/e>skipping stair steps meme.jpg
>>563874561He worked on several projects as lead before COTW, dipshit.You know nothing about game design, project management,.or running a business. Shut your dumbass up.
>>563874910as what? a designer? and apparently a mediocre one at that? lol we just went over saying his first work at all was on snk heroines according to that resume on the website there, swagmanso yeah, you ain't shutting me up muh huh huh
>>563857794Thank God they gave us the option to remove the goofy armor
>>563875008You don't have the full picture yet you try to act like you know anything. Shut your dumbass up. Anywho, major update with Krauser this month and probably another huge announcement at EWC. Support for COTW continues.tonbe outstanding.
>>563875270lol nahyou act like i don't know anything but snk would be in the mud if not for their angel in the oil prince, so it seems like they don't know anything except how to frivolously spend money and assign things in haphazard fashionwhat next, are you gonna call me names on the internet or tell me to kys myselfkeep going, i'm totally emotionally distraught rn
>>563854916>Krauser, whose ruthlessness has only grown with time, it is the perfect chance to strike. The stage is set—not a requiem for the fallen, but an overture to revenge.HE'S ACTUALLY STILL A FUCKING VILLAIN. LET'S FUCKING GO!!!!!!!!!
>>563875765things to recycle for kof16
>>563875523I think you guys are jumping the gun a bit about Krauser being "evil". He wasn't even that bad originally.
>>563876505Look I don't need him to be killing kids and kicking puppies, just him being a villain who only cares about his own ambitions and superiority in all metrics is enough for me.
>>563876713also him not being chill with the heroes and casually hanging out with them.
>>563873807I played the story with everyone at launch. You can't blame from not remembering it when he was namedropped like two times.
>>563872284Interestiiiiing. Looking forward to see what they've done, and if they've changed both the Arcade select screen, and the online menus. From that little screen shot, they might have streamlined things. Shame they couldn't see the flaws in the launch UI to begin with. That gives the impression they're bad judges of Good vs Bad design, unless someone outside SNK tells them. Good menu design is a STANDARD for a professional company. We've had nice, flashy menus in all genres since at least the PS4 gen
>>563875765Boss Team 96, baby. I rag on the game's shitty parts, but I like the DLC so far. Nowhere near as much recycling as kof xv
>>563882447>Nowhere near as much recycling as kof xvit's a real low bar to even set but sure
>>563863778>>FATAL FURY: City of the Wolves will receive a major updated-du--dual lanes?
>>563882282KOFXIV had good menus so it's definitely just them half-assing things since then.
>>563876845>also him not being chill with the heroes and casually hanging out with them.Who does that?
>>563883294>d-du--dual lanes?it already has a dual lane stageone single goddamn stagebut it's thereit's not like it would have required special programming to do it with another stage, it's just a bunch of meshes that get loaded into a scene graph afterall, but they apparently don't know how to do oop
>>563888631Kain, Vox and Billy.
>>563888631Be easier to list the ones that don't. I'll start:
>>563897730Why is Rock the only character that actually gets older in KOF
>>563898491That's not Rock
>>563898857Even so.
>>563898491Because he's one of the few characters more well known in his older form.
It's le good because it's le bad actually.
>>563882282lol shut your dumbass up, fromsoft continues to have terrible menus and no one cares. Stop pretending you know anything about anything.
The golden logo with black background os honestly better than the current blue one
>>563871201It’s a mix of old ass boomers like the petz guy and totally new freshmen.
So basically they turned the rivalry between Geese and Wolfgang into a two clans rivalry, one representing good with Rock and the other evil with Franz. Kinda lame, but depends on Franz if he’s cool or not, but probably he’s lame as fuck.
https://youtu.be/brKqF6KN0rs?si=JN2AG8qFcc_Kz06o
Avatar lobbies incoming.
>Leg tomahawk isn't an overheadHopefully the ex version is, at least
>>563832278>>563844296There's a KOF movie?
>>563919475
h-hollywood akari?
>>563919475No, there isnt. Shut up.
>>563874114Regardless, with the suicide before it was retconned, it's hard to take Wolfgang on his word even if he can praise you after a fight if he can even kill himself after losing to Terry.
>>563920516there is however a kof93
total ui revamp avatar ERP lobbies better smart controls for faggots who use themimproved and more in depth tutorial old Mai costume
but what about more dual lane stages and ringouts
Fun beats gameplay for casuals?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LDgUa7kjLY>>563920726Wasn't there a KOF anime ova?
>>563922228>Fun beats gameplay for casuals?and water is wet
>>563920971>>563922228FF Chunners looks finehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ERHqJG9dVo
>>563923235but what does chunli have to do with dual lane stages and ringouts
>>563920827>old Mai costumeGoddamn, took them long enough
>>563920827>avatar ERP lobbiesI can finally become a woman...
Hey Eiji
ZAAAAMN! Rock's mom looks like THAT?!
>>563922228yes, and to be more accurate: graphics > fun > gameplay
>>563902842Imagine being 50 and being hyped by this movie
>>563927219Terry is so lucky
>>563902842>"I swear, idiocracy is real! people are getting so dumb and stupid.">"LOLOLOL this movie looks so intentionally dumb and stupid, I love it!"I see this in some of the same circles. Brand worship cuckery. No SF attached, and you show them that exact full length movie, they would shit all over it. No "so bad it's good."
>>563904040>fromsoft continues to have terrible menus and no one cares.And no one cares about Fatal Fury. If the menu's are so based, they wouldn't be changing them, you fat cunt. kek.
>>563913134Looks alright. Geese looks better.
tick tock kingkasumi is inevitable
>>563931898I can't believe Ryo's third wife would show up without him.
so who's in the mystery slot anywaymaybe ingrid just like certain dood was sayin
>>563938368Assuming the AoF4 teaser is unrelated, it could be anyone.If could be you.It could be me.It could even be...
>it could be anyoneso its her time
Wtf 2 Hotarus??
how do you even get into KOF on fightcade? everything just seems so intimidating
Nice combos https://youtu.be/uPTJHhOWcd0?si=dUd2AMSa1XVGgTkT
>>563927272Fun is everything, sure you want things to be challenging but when you make the game so overly nerd and virgin with a bunch of stupid prompt combos and play by the guide type of game no one has time for that type of shit, real bout from 1996 looks better, it’s more revolutionary, it’s deeper and more fun than cotw.
combo fatigue
>>563955521What're you gonna do? Play SamSho?Zoomers have no idea what that is.
>>563956083I miss hobocuck
If the COTW update doesnt take armor out of Rev Blow then the game doesnt change whatsoever.
Most boring general ever
>>563962189Well when the output from the company is just as boring and sterile what else do you expect?
>>563962168I'm hesitant to remove the defensive aspect of REV Blow, because both defensive and offensive aspects enhance the other.I'd rather introduce increased hitstop, giving you more time to hitconfirm into super or feint cancel into high dodge attack. And maybe even allow you to special cancel into Air Rev Blow from an air normal.
>>563967912Based
>>563970271No, the other guy is right. Just Defense, Hyper Defense, Guard Cancels, and Rev Guard annihilate any need for any extra defensive armor, let alone RB, the way it is. In fact, all those make having Rev Guard retarded as well. Rev Guard shouldn't even be in the game.
>>563955521This. If combos are happening all the time, and they're easy, then I don't give a fuck anymore. All these uploaders, talking about HOYPE, CZECH THIS SICK COMBO, when all the games are second-to-second comboslop and all the combos are fucking braindead to pull off. I don't care about your brainless, safe on block, 40 hit combo.
>>563952470>it’s deeper and more fun than cotw.>Punch, Kick, Heavy Attack, SwayAt least pick one that's actually deep.
>>563978712>NOOOO THE GAME MUST HAVE 10 BUTTONS AND 7 DIFFERENT MECHANICS WHERE ARE MY 65 HIT COMBO CUTSCENES
Yes, indeed.
Justin is complaining on stream that SNK doesn't give him early access anymore because they assume he'll just go to tournaments LOL
>>563970271No its just best to take out the armor outright. Its stupid to have a move that:>is the easiest thing to Guard Cancel since its just two buttons to do>has armor on frame 2 so it can mashed out through most every blockstring>can't be JD'ed so its a piss easy way to push you into Overheat or guard crush you>has infinite armor allowing it to outright shut down projectiles outright for some characters>beat DPs outright while being safe on block itself>can airstall when you do air Rev Blow that can make the High Dodge Attack, the most thats supposed to beat it, straight up miss and get hit>does a different move/animation for every character which makes reacting and punishing it inconsistent even when you are trying to look for it>has different frame data and hitboxes for every character so some are actually better than others (B.Jenet)>can only be countered best with your own Rev Blow, which you dont always have on you cause the S.P.Gs dont line upRev Blow has so much bullshit on its side condensed into one move that does so much that it turns the game into this random factor that can steal the game from you on top of all the bullshit all these characters can do already. People at all levels of play will spam this dumb move and steal momentum or shut down the opponents offense outright. No one would throw out a 20+ frame move out when the opponent is right in their face but because of infinite armor and braindead easy guard cancel. God I am just so sick of fighting games being undermined by stupid as hell gameplay mechanics that dominate or effect the game more individual character strengths.>>563952084>Combo video played on the next build>Rev Blow still the same so that update wont mean shit whatsoeverOkay then i guess ill just quit. Im just venting in the end anyway. This game just isnt fun to play anymore when you know you can get ripped off at the last moment cause you wanted to anti-air a jump in. I give up. I cant take it anymore.
>Krauser says if Andy's chest wound healed properly he straight up would have defeated himAlways felt it was a waste they never got to fight in canon. Have their own rivalry as younger brothers of the main hero and villain.
>>563913134Funny how SNK devs go full tryhard while Capcom just gives journos footage of level 7 CPU's of dlc duking it out
>>563913468out of bounds incoming
>>563979350Nah, just 4 attack buttons, like every Fatal Fury before Real Bout, every good KOF, and MotW. Real Bout games look amazing, but they're brainless.
>>563985281All of this is true. Retarded mechanic.
>Main Menu changed to be more bland, even though it was one of the things COTW did good on and the majority didn't have a problem with>Something that could have actually used a change though like the Character-Select that wasn't a very good iteration on the previous FF CS screens that's getting more and more cluttered, is the same thoughThey're doing these things on purpose at this point. No other explanation. I don't think I've even seen anyone complain about the Menu. If there was any problem, it was more so the negative-edge inputs. Not the look, nor it being hard to navigate.
>>564000130This is just a quick menu to jump between different areas without having to jump back to the main menu
>>564000130Wow this looks dogshit what the fuck
>>563913468prove it.
>>564002521Source on that, or did you just make that up? Hopefully you didn't, because I would like for that to be the actual case.
>>564003867It's literally missing Arcade, EOST, PlayStation/Steam Store, Invite List, Enable/Disable Crossplay, link to the main website, Online/Offline segregator, and all of the other UI/Button Mappings information so it's obviously not the main menu.
>>563987876Hindsight problem, really. Krauser was only made as a bullshit Bison knockoff for their bullshit SFII knockoff and Obari was the one that gave Krauser an actually fun, intimidating character where he was the younger half-brother of Geese that not only made Geese shit himself but mogged Terry without even trying. If it wasn't for that change, SNK wouldn't have kept Krauser around at allMeanwhile Andy just never got shit to do in the classic Fatal Fury series that wasn't just an alternative Terry path. So eventually he sort of devolved into being Mai's boyfriend. MotW REALLY shouldn't have cut him
^ignore the retarded babble.
>>564000130I believe the other guy >>564004303But don't blame ppl thinking nu snk would do something like ruining the main menu.
https://x.com/i/status/2045652275381899549
>>564003867Common sense, retard. EOST mode isn't even there.
>>563993054SNK devs actually like playing their games.
>>563987876Krauser only got involved in the story because Terry kicked Geese's ass tho
>>564000130Wtf is that lol???? This must be a joke. If they’re serious then there’s really no hope for this company
>>563967912tacos and burritos to you too???
>>563998068blazblue has four buttons to do everything in it and it's a lot deeper than what that has to offer
>>564010776they must have liked playing them against the evoga guys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuJu_MHfSNAMetal Slug 8 finally coming?
Based.
>>564010776>>564019104Huge difference from all those Season 1 dev matches, LOL.
>>564019104but are they actually developers or did they just hire players and say "you're a dev now because we employ you to do play game and that counts in our book as a dev"
I applaud that they’re recreating an original hardware, but it’s pointless if you expect me to buy 70$ on old games that are mostly bad anyway to complete a collection. I can get an actual real ps2 with real games for way cheaper.
https://x.com/i/status/2045700161016574124NEW MISSION START
>>564024932>Thank YouAlright I smiled a bit. But seriously are they gonna do a new game or what?
>>564022228From the way they kept losing source code, or kept using 3rd party emulators for their retro releases, I'm surprised they even have the original hardware specs.
The fuck are those proportions?
>>564027584If they're still getting Tonko to do these, it's a woman who wants to draw young, pretty and attractive characters being told to draw giant 80s musclemen
>>564027584you new?
>>564027825I know, but it's hilarious that wanting to make him look buff only made him look like a mega manlet
>>564024932So who is doing the new game?.Dotemu?The new studio they bought in Taiwan?
Was Tactics any good?
>>564025938Yeah and aren’t they also releasing old games in cartridges and one is an actual port of a game that wasn’t on the AES? How the company went bankrupt multiple times and neo snk is a new company that just retained the old ips. I doubt they have the ability to reverse engineer those game.
>Art of fighting>Samsho>Metal slug>Perseus>SvCNow this is how a real AAA company works
>>564000130Firghter's Hub is the erp lobby
>>564024932Happy 30th Anniversary!
>>563987876>>564004729Hold up can we talk about this? Because Krauser/ Andy rivalry has been one of my biggest hear me outs:>Krauser is an aristocrat born into a esteemed bloodline, viewing his god-like strength and genius as proof of his innate superiority over all men. Andy was an orphan on the streets born frail and small and timid. He went from a small, unconfident kid who hid behind his brother and father to one of the strongest men in the world through sheer effort.>Krauser solidified his power by murdering his own father as a stepping stone(and likely vengeance for his mother) while Andy’s entire life is a monument to Jeff's teaching and his love for the man who raised him and Terry and fought to avenge his death.>They're both younger brothers but Krauser has nothing but disdain for his brother and planned to kill Geese and take everything he had built before he leaned Terry had defeated Geese already, whereas Andy admires and cherishes his older brother, seeing his naturally talented brother as the benchmark he has to surpass one day, and would die for his brother if it came down to it.>Krauser's whole aesthetic is built on his deep appreciation for his European royalty, Andy became entrenched in Japan and fully embraced another country and culture.>Krauser is a fast, strong, tanky monster who dominates space and overwhelms his opponents, Andy specifically learned koppo to compensate for his frailer, small body so he could dismantle larger opponents(which makes him the perfect counter to Krauser).>Krauser fights to prove he is a god among men that he stands at the apex. Andy fights and trains to protect his loved ones and self-improvement.>Krauser kills himself after suffering his first defeat, Andy sees every defeat as a lesson and opportunity to improve. >Andy is the son and student of Jeff Bogard and the disciple of Hanzo. In him, Krauser fights not just one but BOTH of the men who were the first people to ever wound him.
You forgot about:>Andy is gay and a cuck at best.>Krauser fucks women and makes babies.
>>564037227Nah, Andy should fight some rival bad ninja
>>564016105I mean, you can still have him target Terry first, interested in the man who beat Geese. Actually it works even better, makes Andy seek out the man who nearly killed his brother like he was going to in the OVA.
>>564037869that would be sick too. SNK always alludes to the enemies of the Shiranui and rival ninja factions but hasn't done jackshit with any of it besides flavor text. I would kill for a badass evil ninja characters. Maybe a former Shiranui who's pissed Hanzo chose some white boy from america to be his successor and defected, maybe they gave into that shadow of the Shiranui thing that's like the satsui no hado.
>>564038220You could probably have him beat up on Jubei if you don't want to sideline Terry. Krauser goes on a world tour to wail on masters and gets one up on Andy's master. Terry and Joe agree to help out but Andy has the personal motivation. Hell might even give Mai some drama too.
>>564038450The Storm Shadow to Andy's Snake Eyes. But yeah. He gets pissed off because of Andy only ignoring he was kicked out for being an evil ass.
>>564037227this kind of highlighted for me that Terry and Krauser really don't have much chemistry as enemies
>>564038883Krauser is kind of a weird villain after Geese's more personal connection. Like he's brutal and evil and stuff but just in that BIG STRONG GUY WITH NO MERCY kind of way. Even the OVA had to sort of invent a reason for Terry to be scared of him which was... eh.
>>564039086Yeah, then they had that forced 'you're actually just like me' thing in their final fight in the OVA
4chan reached a low point to the point that.. dare I say it, reddit is better now. Was checking the tekken general to get feedback on the balance patch, but no the retards don't talk about anything but eceleb shit, sharing porn, avatarfagging, gay shit. And it's not exclusive to that general, every other general and board is like that.
>>564038883Because they aren't enemies, they are merely rivals. Krauser only fought Terry because he wanted to see if he could give him a fun fight since he beat his brother. You guys keep going bout Krauser being evil but he has never been shown doing anything evil or bad. He just fucking loves fighting and goes all in on every fight. The guy even has honor and shows respect for his fallen enemies and is a better loser than most SNK bosses.
>>564027584The current snk artists give all the muscly characters long torsos, tiny BeetleJuice heads, and short, stubby legs. Tizoc is the same, compared to his motw sprite.
>>564022228I don't applaud any of it. That money could've gone toward a smaller budget digital game in a diff genre. Why is it that one of the first things nu snk does when they get guaranteed money, is re-release the console that helped them go bankrupt the first time? LMAO. It's like it's one big troll. No new KOF Collection, no new FF collection, no new Metal Slug, let's re-release the NeoGeo AES with actual cartridges. I'd blame Saudi, but they did this with the mini arcade thing before then.
Speaking of missed opportunities with villains, anyone else extremely disappointed with how Gao was utilized?
Gotta love how SNK is committed to reviving their old titles.If all goes well, they'll eventually reach the Last Blade 3.
>game(s)
photorealistic akari powered by dlss 5.0
>>564040248It was removed in special but Fatal fury 2 showed Krauser beating the shit out of all of Terry's friends in Southtown before challenging him. Guy was ruthless and him being honorable was to show that he was a prideful aristocrat and not because he was nice guy.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Q9l6Y4E-Ow
>>564031091Yep
How did XV (and to a less extent XIV) become the only KOF games where the competitive meta at the highest level doesn't dissolve into mirror match after mirror match even 4+ years after launch (when most other KOFs got solved and reduced to that point in a year or so of competitive play)?
>>564066062Because of patches. You might want to re-watch year 1 XV.
>>564066289XV hasn't had a balance patch in like more than a year and a half. So why hasn't it dissolved down to mirror matches yet like most KOFs did in the same timeframe?
>>564066838Because said other KOFs did not get patches...Both XIV and XV had the same problem at launch. What's so hard to understand?
https://x.com/gatoray_kof/status/2045878218486682000this is the cart before the horse strategy here
>>564068186Welp we won't see the game until after 5 years I guess.
>>564068328yeah srslyand if anyone is thinking "uhh why WOULDN'T they hire 2d artists for metal slug???"that's not the point i'm makingthe point is that they are only JUST NOW looking for them instead of having already hired people for the job long before announcing a new product
>>564068092KOF13 got a balance patch after over a year and a half of top players grinding the game in arcades and it still came out a broken mess of mirror matches before Team DLC killed the kusoge further.98 has had multiple balance revisions. And 02UM is only marginally less busted than Vanilla 02.
>>564068519Don't they have a bunch of people that did a shit ton of sprites for MSA? Even one of the MS1 guys is still thereThey probably need a lot more for an actual game
>>564040794SFIV faggotery pushed by Oda. KOFXIV/XV also has the same style of animations as that game.
>>564068186It’s either for Metal Slug or a SvC
>>564071976that would also require training and acclimation for the style of sprites and any software they might be using outside of ms paint, that should have been pretty far in by this pointand one of the ms1 guys? the others went on to make something called black finger jet
>>564072434>SvCCapcom would never let them make it sprite based
>>564073725besides thatwhat would have been the res, 640x400? lol
>>564072649Are they all there? All I know is that Akio is the main dude and he's making Black Finger Jet, and I know that Max D still is at SNK because of a interview about the MS Tactics which wasn't made by them. No idea about the other 4 designers from MS1 though.Still happy about the possibility of new projects being 2D.
>>564072402>SFIV faggotery pushed by Oda.Then he ain't doing it right, cause the big characters in SFIV had short torsos and long/normal legs. I do remember kof 14 and 15 having the stubby tall men, though, you're right about that, like Daimon.
>>564074583the other point being is not all the work is going to be on one guy, from training to quality control
The thing is, a lot of things worked out for Metal Slug in the 90s, which helped immortalize it in gaming culture, but SNK has to remember that today's gamers aren't the same as the old ones. You'll have to start over.Do you think Gen Z or Gen Alpha would play a new Metal Slug in 2031? Are pixel games, co-op side-scrollers, war games a thing anymore?
>>564068186Metal slug is going to be 2d, yeah.
i even preemptively brought up such a response and he still did it anyway
>>564075642The problem of a new MS is that it probably would cost to much to make, and people would never pay full price, or even half for a 2 hour game. They could make some money making it available on their new AES though.
>>564075642>Do you think Gen Z or Gen Alpha would play a new Metal Slug in 2031? Are pixel games, co-op side-scrollers, war games a thing anymore?Yep.Presentation matters.Marketing matters.Celeste, Sovel Knight, Pizza Towers were hits with young audiences.
>>564080514And give the new game a frenzy action multiplayer.
>>564042027I was really hoping for more out of him. He was supposed to be more of a major character in the scrapped Garou 2
>>564080687that would be rad
>>564068186Snk really should just lean into being a retro company.
What would the plot of a new MS be? Aliens? Future army? Or just back to classic evil army shenanigans led by Not Saddam Hussein again? Would those be strong hooks to a new player? Or are they gonna try including demons and waifus? War and alien attacks are 90s.
>>564093557Or will it be dungeon adventures and Isekai in my new MS?
>>564068186If it's for Metal Slug, then lmao. They were supposed to be working on that since 2022 at least. Tencent showed them how to make it look. All they needed to do is follow that, with better graphics and an actual game.
>>564080514All those old Metal Slug games are new to zoomers. They do not like them. They do not play them. Again, look at the mobile MS game from Tencent. That was new.
>>564039086>Even the OVA had to sort of invent a reason for Terry to be scared of him which was... eh.Always thought it would’ve been better if they leaned more into the idea that Terry almost died the exact same way as Jeff, i.e. getting jumped by a dude from Stroheim lineage
>>564096473It isn't really a good look when you become that dejected from losing once even if it was a complete stomp.
I like how Joe was ready to just commit an international incident over a karate fight
>>564068186The only based retard move SNK can pull from this would be release a brand new 2D pixel art Metal Slug for current gen....that they also release on their new NeoGeo AES+ in cartridge form. They are crazy and retarded enough to try it.
>>564101440I'd be really tempted. Like if I had the system and it was an option? I think I'd really want it on a big cart.
>>564095374The Tecent slop looks like shit.
>>564101440That would be cool though?
>>564069075Because modern SNK is decent at balancing games
>New Metal Slug>Demo comes out>First level takes place in Saudi Arabia again>"Mission 1 Start!">Sajam and his tranny cronies spin this as MBS propaganda>Despite it being a blatant homage to MS2/X, but they don't care anyway>Game sells 1.000 copies in the west before it gets canned forever
did they nerfed k' or k9999 havent seen one in this tournameent
>>564108142My understanding is that Kronen got gutted pretty bad
>>564108578its just ryo now
>>564066062One thing to consider is that KoF has become more international than previously.like in brazil one of the top players was playing like Seth & Ralf in 2002 and Ralf is known to be like pretty mediocre in 2002 but he still made do with him in multiple money matches.But besides the occasional fightcade with other latinos you'd never see him go against the chinese guys.Now in XV you get brazilians, mexicans and USA going against chinese and japanese and competing at a pretty high level so that allows for more variety between the players
>>564066062They killed off this game the moment it became decent. At least COTW seems to be well balanced while it's still alive.
>>564110076To be honest it's probably for the better.As long as the SNK World Tour is a thing which fair enough no one knows how long it will take at least KoF XV is getting highlighted every year and it's in a good place meta-wise
>>564103852>TecentLooks better than your spelling. You're just a miserable bastard.
>>564110076>the moment it became decentShould've been decent from day 1.
>>564110658ESL coded reply.
>>564038615Storm Shadow wasn't actually evil, he just infiltrated Cobra.
YOOOWhy aren't we talking about this?https://x.com/jagar001/status/2045704826282225802
>>564112113I keep thinking the dude is on top of the black and yellow thing like a skateboard
>>564112113Now do Rising Taco
COTW's color editor used to also be able to change skin color in beta, but that was later removed in the final version, still curious as to why SNK did that. Did some characters look too jank with a darker skin tone? Was SNK afraid of getting heat from Xitter mobs because some players wanted to "whitewash" Preecha and Vox while fiddeling with custom colors?
>>564116348It the latter yes. Everyone would've made white Marcos.
>>564112113They've realized how average their animators are. Now they need to stop using monkey arm models like that Terry in the bottom right.
https://x.com/i/status/2045907271281189318I guess this confirms the pixel artists job offer is indeed for a new MS
>>564121505neat
>>564121505Based
>>564121505>retard barging in with incorrect information didn't even bother to apologize to the guy he was spreading misinformation about
>>564047387What's there left to tell with Bakumatsu Roman/The Last Blade's story since Hell's Gate was closed off through Yuki's sacrifice?
>>564133203What was left to tell with Samurai Showdown after Nakoruru's?
>>564135389Nothing for a while, every 2D Samsho afterwards is a prequel except the 3D SamShos, which have nonsense stories that bring back Nakoruru anyway
Both feudal and bakumatsu Japan are big enough shit shows that you can drum up some new villain to fight.
>>564133203All the left over demons including Setsuna who is STILL alive after LB2? The embodiment of death and human malice itself is just walking around with all the demons that escaped the hell gate before Yuki sealed it. There's a lot you can do with that. Could take some stuff from the LB story in All Star where Setsuna corrupted Hibiki, corrupted the shogun, and killed Kaede forcing a timeloop where he was trying to save Yuki over and over only making things worse for everyone every new cycle.
>>564137564>with all the demons that escaped the hell gatetime for a guest character
what happened to the alex patch did they change his story
You can't really blame oda when the niggas here think worse than him, they want 2d pixel games that play exactly the same as the old ones, and when they flop they will all say it's muh conspiracy against snk.
>>564138487Fuck off, meme trash.
Man Fatal Fury 3 is a long ass arcade play through. Like 12 damn stages.
>>564139135>that play exactly the same as the old onesyeah but people here whine when someone suggests breaking the formula as if that's some kind of heretical thing to pull offlike stop making kof a 3v3yeah what are you thinking about that commentexactly
Alright, /neog/. How do you get people, who aren't 40+ year old uncs, to play a new Metal Slug?How do you get someone born in 2010 to play it?
>>564140973oh, that's easy, you act like a giant asshole nerd and call people zoomers for not knowing what a meter slug is, that'll socially e-pressure people on the internet into being more interested, if they're still in middle school anyway
>>564140973Get rid of "lives" and have modern respawn design -- if not like Super Meat Boy, then like Celeste. You can still punish the player for dying, like in roguelites.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcfxT8Kom9ENice list
>>564138496All they did was vaguely change the wording. Now instead of fucking his second cousin he's fucking a "distant relative".
>>564144585>Seth Shit>Kensou Dragon Spirit story aside still has a good showing>Foxy and DianaShit>LinShit>Duck KingCool>AdelMeh>Any Sports Team memberMeme>Oswaldmeh>May Leecool>NamelessFuck off
>>564121505https://x.com/akio_1963/status/1998308702353555904RiP
>>564149236my uncle had that. tough break.
SamSho and Last Blade are cool but Ninja Masters is underrated.
>>564139135kek
>>564137564You don't want modern SNK writing Setsuna I promise you.
>>564154140A watch?
>>564159176If there's one person who they need to rehire for MS, that's Akio.Dude and the other artists at Nazca Corporation helped cement Metal Slug's identity, the craft with the sprite-art in that series is unrivaled. Sometimes I still look at the mecha designs in those games and still marvel myself at how insanely detailed and wonderfully animated they are.
Man, I hate the new COTW like you wouldn't believe.
>>564165964..nothin6od stopping him from applying
>>564170249Actually there are a few things.He just founded a new studio of ex-Nazca devs.And that studio is working on what appears to be a Metal Slug spiritual successor.Also he didn't seem to have been treated well by SNK during its last stay in the company. Japanese companies are notoriously cancer.Maybe if they put that project on hold, he might reconsider.
>>564159154>was actually adopting his behavior because he wanted to ease the pain of those he saw as dying and suffering and now wants to change his ways to inspire others to live through therapy and medical methods and gets heavily involved in bio science
Bump
>>564169558You prefer the old COTW.
>>564148771Bald and 40 for sure.
>>564161449Geese is rich, bitch. He can afford like all the AES+ sets
>>564188115should have taken the rest of her clothing along with it
>>564189913
>>564037227Yet another in a long line of missed opportunities for SNK just give it up bro. They will never give Andy or Joe any cool meaningful adversaries. they're terry's back up. nothing more.
Hope you guys like the avatar lobby
>>564214731Again. Proof?
>>564188115>>564199553Seriously.
>>564213945Joe literally doesn't need one, his problem is the fact that they removed ALL his cool to make him just goofy. He should've remained the "always wins gigachad" of Team Fatal Fury
>>564214731sure but this is a thread for neogeo/snk, not avatar the last airbenderi like azula tho
>>564216716Sorry that belongs to Terry Stu now.
>>564221820Body ga...Marumie daze!
>>564066062By making the game more focused on combos and rushdown. Homogenization makes it easier to balance (just look at SF6) and even then, vanilla XV was ass. '98 might be a 6 character game but at least they have different playstyles.Honestly, XIII deserved more balance patches. It's a better "combo-slop" KOF than the two games that were released aftewards.
>>564225979>It's a better "combo-slop" KOF than the two games that were released aftewards.XIII combos are worse than XIV or XV, it's practically the blueprint for CotW's shit except being frame perfect. The game also cut so many moves due to the HD sprites so the combos are even more "just spam the exact same move over and over in a corner" than any of SNK's modern output. The only thing it has over CotW is lack of SPG/Rev Blow
>>564229750You don't play any of the games you mentioned in your post lol. You all can ruin this thread by shitposting all you like, but stop pretending you've ever actually played these games.t. Top COTW player getting arab money ;)
>>564243751That's nice, Justin
>>564229750>The game also cut so many movesbut muh "can't have jack of all tradeses" argument
Pre-order Art of Fighting 4 to get Golden Yuri.
is aof a sausage fest too
>>564251824AOF had less girls on its roster in the entire franchise than CotW has in one game
COTW is going to have the most character variety at Evo Japan looks like
>>564252330>AOF had less girls on its roster in the entire franchise than CotW has in one gameSo, heavy focus on Yuri's ass? I'm okay with this.
>>564253485Yeah, b-but le boycott!!1
>>564251824To be fair, SNK seems to be aware that AoF4 won't sell if they just copied AoF1 and 2, and will probably get heavily revamped to appeal to new gens. So expect more female characters and some kind of supernatural plot.They'll probably keep Ryo, Robert, Yuri and King, but they are definitely not bringing back John and Mickey for instance. Gimmick could be anything, it needs to be different from COTW or SF6, but not too complex to filter casuals, westerners already don't want to play SNK games.
>>564257607Oh, and clothes should be torn off if you beat someone with a super.
>>564257607>super natural plot what's the point then just keep them in kof
>>564257607>some kind of supernatural plot.Aof3 had the big bad with some super drug what will turn the user into the Hulk. Just expand on that. Maybe someone stole the formula and started distributing the drug across Southtown.
nvidia technologies
K, /neog/. How do you sell AoF4 to white people who have never heard of SNK?
>>564274229You don’t sell it, you either cancel it or fold it into CoTW and redirect your efforts to another project that’s actually worth it.
>>564282196this p muchyou'd have to do an entire reboot retelling things while throwing in extra new characters that matter without being annoying poochies or w/e in a different genre with a 1v1 fighting game mode on the side for it to even *probably* make a dentbut it is snk
>>564274229Call it "Fist of the Dragon and Tiger" and market it as a brand new game even though it's a sequel.
>>564289247Yeah art of fighting is a ridiculous name. Like a Dragon sold just fine, people now don’t see those names as weird. Fist of the Dragon and Tiger sounds cooler too.
>>564286998The issue is not the effort put into marketing, but how to distinguish it from their other 1v1 fighters. You have COTW and SAMSHO and now this? 3 ips competing with each other in a dying market is insanity. Only way for it to make sense is either to be 3d fighter which will give it a boost after Tekken 8 fuck ups, or an entirely different genre.
>>564290713>The issue is not the effort put into marketingthat post never said anything about marketing itself
>>564147761lol I checked it out, yeah. They didn't even remove that pic of him holding her as a baby. Based. Also people forgot about it entirely, really fucking stupid cattle.
>>564291775it's also similar to the way snk should have handled that stupid main on horny shit, but you had jim "i'm not a white knight, but..." bulmer on the premise
>>564291509I meant "making it"
>>564292064companies should learn how to differentiate between the stuff that actually get normal people mad like racism from the other chronically online bullshit like this one or the people calling Pragmata pedo bait. Otherwise we will get nothing but faggot furry games.
>>564257607AoF4 won't sell regardless of what they do. At least with CotW you can rationalize that they were gaslit by the max dood types + Terry being an ebin guest in other games, but AoF has literally zero appeal that sets it apart from SF to anyone aside from old hardcore fg players who probably buy every new fg anyways. Doing any fighters other than KoF and Samsho (already established IPs that have unique niches in the genre) makes zero sense to me if they're actually serious about trying to grow as a company.
AoF is so unknown to the general public that it could work in its favor. It might seem like a fresh series, and they should promote it as such. If there's one thing we've seen, it's that the return of "the old, mythical IP from the '90s" isn't something that draws people in.And I'm referring to Marathon.The only thing that truly holds AoF back is that it's being a fighting game.
>Kenshiro in Fatal Fury>Tifa in Street FighterWhy
>>564300546If they're getting Gouken too I guess we can all expect Tung for season 3.
>>564225979Characters do play different tho.Lauyagami won the world tour by fucking characters doing stomps with Hinako over and over again.
>>564293584I think a secret sauce game that I think SNK should try is Buriki Two.There's a market out there for a more arcade MMA game imo.