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Leaked Edition

>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/04-10-2026-update.125825/

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki/
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
>Unofficial Competitive News
https://edl.gg/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

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Warden
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cue benny hill music
witchmail really strong especially if I dont use my ult.
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Sex with Venator
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>>563797945
>Leak
>It's some twitter who's oc
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How do you have sex with Ivy if she's a rock
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I really hope we're not getting yet another vamp the next update when we already have two of them in game and there are bazillion unexplored themes and hero concepts out there
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>>563798167
agreed why are we even acknowledging it

OP is fag
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>>563798167
the oc was the one with the purple skin, op image is the legit one
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>>563798139
pocket..your lifestyle...it's sinful...
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Why is there some nigger that just keeps posting his fart fetish shit in these threads? Last thread is filled with the garbage.
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>>563797945
oh it's real
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>>563798614
agreed I r*port it
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>>563797945
>>563798513
>>563798630
is raven back from the dead?
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This game makes me feel completely empty
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silver
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>>563798946
yea
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>yfw they cold drop another set of heros
>it's Slork, Raven, and Boho
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>>563799208
nice
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>Get to enemy walker
>Get it down to half
>Enemy comes to defend
>Have to dodge walker stomp+enemy abilities that are thrown at me
>Kill walker and run away

I love these moments.
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>>563799367
don't care, give me REMODELS
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https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/ryan-gosling-hero.126537/

why did yoshi lock my thread
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9/11 reference when
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i love victor
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>>563799567
What was that? You want MORE HEROS????
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submitted
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I need to stop being a pussy and hard commit on getting good with Doorman
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4 m1 carries and not one knows how to catch a wave, this game is begging me to go play literally anything else. You have to be masochist to enjoy standard right now
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is gun victor the way to go?
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>>563801061
>using """QoL"""" (cheater) mods
shiggy
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>>563801165
it's a fps config
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>Calico cant do any damage unless she has two actives and spirit snatch
>Dynamo stomp can clear a wave on its own with 5 point bonus
Make it make sense
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>>563801206
I actually probably need that
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>>563798614
Every general on this board is complete goonrot.
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>have holliday on team
>does nothing
>lose
cool game
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Some anons did not like milk tank Mina, so I made a smaller boob version.
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>>563801226
>Calico requires money to scale
>She has a free money printer on 2
>Dynamo get's the best value out of health and cd scale for ult or gun scaling for 3 so 1 damage barely scales into the late game.
Not that hard if you have 2 brain cells.
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>>563801568
right

thanks for the 1v2 lane, ugly dyke
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>>563801570
Don't cave into the whiny moralfaggots
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>>563801568
>have holliday on team
>ropes a couple people throughout the match
>just makes me wish she was playing dynamo or no&skill instead
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>>563801570
AHHHHH MINA BOOBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I WANT TO BE A BAT SO MINA CAN HOLD ME!!!!!!!!!
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https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/04-16-2026-update.127201/
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>>563801570
thanks chief
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>>563801701
every time i have a doorman that ults an enemy i just think about how if they were dynamo/mo the enemy would be dead already
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>>563801570
Why cater to Redditors?
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>>563801756
big change. hope it gets in the game
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>>563801756
vyper probably gets misgendered constantly but wouldn't give a shit
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Deadlock killer just dropped
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2416450/MOUSE_PI_For_Hire/
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from 0/5 and 3 RQs after deaths, to a win after all
nice
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>>563802735
also I had to mute everyone to stay focused
people don't understand yapping about pointless mechanics does not help your team mates
I don't have to hear every time you go for boxes
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>>563802735
>>563802872
time for sleep - back to work on Monday QQ, and I should use up the last few days of my vacation
...unless I prolong it further by a week, but that would be dumb
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Ascendant is the real elo hell
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BEEYANDO ESPEENA :DDD
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I GOTTA BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOL I LOVE TO BROOOOOOOOL WHO CARES ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE GOTTA BROOOOOOOOOOOOL
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I think this game made me physically sick after a loss streak
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>>563803520
clean it up janny
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>>563801061
way more fun compared to spirit #ngl
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Remove urn from the game and all the rest of the comeback mechanics
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>>563804502
>she thinks urn is a comeback mechanic
oh no non o
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>gun celeste
WHAT IN FUCK
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>>563804502
>urn
>comeback
Ok seeker bro
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>>563804502
seekerGOD...
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It took me 20 games as Victor to notice that his arm is blue.
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>>563799367
>boho
i just want a stereotypical witch bros, why can't she be real?
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>>563805714
the BAXtuh society...
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Weird how despite Victor being one of the most honest characters in the game (literally just walk out of his aura) I’ve gotten 3 death threats just for playing him
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>>563805951
Why do they persecute us so? We've done nothing wrong.
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I miss when all the heroes had an oily slime texture to them
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>>563806006
they hate us for our honesty
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>in a match
>team is trash
>everyone but me is feeding the other team hard
>terrible KDRs
>someone is 0 and 5/6
>enemies are too strong because of all the fights they are winning plus the time it buys them to push lanes
>enemy team is close to base
>go afk in spawn and go take a shit i was fighting
>come back and my team (obviously) lost
>get to post about it on /dlg/ and search for another match
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>>563801603
You know you have to actually get the killing blow for Calico to get those 200 souls, right?
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Is this a good Shiv build? I started using him cause of a funny voice mod I found for him and so far he feels like utter ass in the early game.
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>>563806306
WRONG, NIGGER
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>>563806706
stalker sucks and expansion isn't needed, need more greens
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>mfw paige buys knockdown for our vindicta, but the vindicta is so dogshit (0/14/0 UNIRONICALLY) so they just start spending it on me off CD
forced 50/50 is real
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>>563806814
I dunno when they changed it but they changed it bud, go play a game and see for yourself
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>>563806706
no? just use a pro build lmfao wtf is this shit
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>retard teammate throws lane
>other teammates are retarded
>cant make any plays because they're retarded and I'm behind due to lane
>waste of 30 minutes
Wish street brawl was fun and I'd never play this dogshit mode again but it's somehow worse
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sometimes I queue after a really bad day and know I'm going to be the problem instead of just playing street brawl or some other game
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que es el sociedad de baxter? los ninos pequenos y los monos de "shiv". un explacion mysterioso....
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>>563807330
fuck off retard nobody speaks that disgusting language
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Slowing Hex should be buffed and moved to 3.2k. It feels like shit to use.
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hey icefrog
add linkens sphere and lotus orb to deadlock
thanks
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>>563804714
viable
reported
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>>563807484
linkens would feel good
>but its countered by muh 800 item
yes which is -1 slot for the enemy
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I really hope the urn is removed when the jungle is updated and we get some kind of better side objective.
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standard mode is starting to feel like homework lately *tugs on collar*
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>>563807093
just buy counterspell?
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>>563806706
Ordering of items is way more important than what you look like at 56k anon.
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>>563801603
>Calico
>scales
can you point to the parts of her kit which scale? A maxxed out 1 deals 2.73x spirit damage if you land every single bomb which you never will. Her 2 is literally "melee enemies and heal" on a horrendous cooldown, her 3 doesnt do damage and is purely setup, and her 4 deals 1.2x spirit damage if you land both segments.
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>>563807598
I don't care, let me stack bullshit on my carry, add solar crest too
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>>563807618
but we spent 50k to record those lines
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>there's always an infernus and dynamo on the enemy team without fault
how fun
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>>563807636
are you flirting with me?
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>>563807764
>want to play EE stalker's mark drifter
>dynamo on the other team without fail
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>>563808016
>EE stalker's mark drifter
just play mirage then
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>let me show them why I'm Dullaw

I thought her name was Holliday?
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>>563808290
Her name is Holliday Dullaw, obviously. Or Dullaw Holliday. Whichever you prefer.
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>>563808290
her name is holliday dullaw
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I love to brrrrrrrrrrooooooooooool
So I play only Shiv because Shiv's best value is being a brooooooooooooooooler and fighting the enemy 24/7. I will be at every urn to broooooool.
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>empty the magazine on a vindicta flying in lane
>not even half towards afterburn applying
infernus' gun is so fucking shit dude and they nerfed early toxic bullets
b-but aim better
THEY RAN DASHFERNUS IN NS NIGGUH
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The streets of Osaka's
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>>563808159
wait a minute... I think you're onto something!
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This game is fucking difficult when you don't have object permanence
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>>563808818
I gave your mom my object permanence last night
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>does nothing
>dies
>dies again
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>>563808818
have you tried not being disabled
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Valve employees receive an annual all-expenses-paid trip to Hawaii.

For over 20 years, Valve has flown its full-time employees to a luxury Hawaiian resort.
The company covers flights, lodging, and most expenses for roughly an eight-day stay.

Many refer to it as the two-week Valve Hawaii vacation because of travel time.
This is in addition to Valve’s very generous flexible paid time off.
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heh
>+2.7k souls
what the fuck
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So is this a real leak or just some fan render of the shitty portrait leak.
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You thought you could ult my team? Nope, TIME FOR APPLIED SCIENCE!
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>>563809259
That's a render of what he supposedly looks like
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>>563808818
dont worry, 90% of the playerbase doesnt have it either
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>>563809259
>563809259
Apparently it's like an AI rendition of what he looks like.
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I have won one game so matchmaking has decided I now must tard wrangle for the next 15. Every match has had one to two players going 10+ deaths before late game.
What character(s) can carry a game in spite of the special feeds players best efforts.
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>another vampire
KINOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO vampgawds stay winning
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>>563809646
>10+ deaths before late game.
This is nothing, I see people dying 10 times in lane, you'd think at some point their brain cells would start working but nope
>What character(s) can carry a game in spite of the special feeds players best efforts.
Seven. Buy the egg, kill every wave and farm, splitpush and kill walkers, then cash in and go on a rampage
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I'm just happy he's white and not zesty
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>>563809123
>tfw your parent weren't jewish enough to contact Jeffery Epstein to get you into MIT to study comp-sci so you could meet Valve's minimum hire requirements and go to Hawai'i for free
feels fuckin bad!
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>>563808931
>rapes your walker
>warp stone away
i'll be back in 100 seconds for another walker, fag
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>>563809762
>not zesty
lol
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Silver is pretty good at sidelaning mainly because she can pop everyone who walks up to her 1v1. Kinda like Drifter but she does not scale lmao.
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>>563809776
>his parents didn't go to a synagogue that was attended by a bunch of rich well connected jews
skill issue. better luck next time in character select
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>>563809259
>vampire with robo arm
Sanguophage mechanitor shalom
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Uhh

Ummm

Uhh


I've got it, give them ANOTHER prosthetic arm!
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>>563809950
mazel tov
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>>563810056
The characters with prosthetic arms all are (were) a part of the Baxter society.
Calico, GT, Shiv
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When are they adding Hoodwink
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Going full stompfag is fine as long as you also get Warp Stone and Duration Extender for your auto win potential.
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>another passive laner
ARGH
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The Baxtuh Society doesn't want you to know they're harvesting right arms
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Had a guy cry he had to lane into an Apollo, not attempt to switch, then refuse to play out of his range or play aggressively into him and die like 4 times by 8 minutes.
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america is kind of like the baxter society if you think about it, expect instead of your arm it's your foreskin
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He was playing as Abrams btw so I forgot to mention I totally understand where he's coming from
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If you have 6400 early do you follow the build and buy bits or buy a big item
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>>563811490
Save up for 12800
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how come the patrons get names but mid boss is still just mid boss?
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>>563811346
That's deep man
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>>563811490
big item like EE
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Have they de-trooned the game yet? This shit was so much better two years ago before those degenerates came in.
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>>563811346
AIPAC has your number
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>>563811584
Maybe they’ll make different monsters for mid boss so it’s just a general term.
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>2 games in a row where my retarded team ignores the lanes to the point that they get into our base for free
>couldn't even kill all 3 walkers in either game
our haze said their tooth fell out mid game. either they are either geriatric or subhuman
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gotta build me some backup
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the jump between eternus 1-3 and 4-6 is kinda absurd. the former really is pisslow
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>pick the meta FOTM heroes (it's always the same 10)
>auto win 60% of the games
what an absurd dogshit developer team
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I’m eternus btw
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>>563811490
are your balls big enough?
for gun you instabuy glass cannon
for spirit you buy ee/focus lens
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>>563811346
americans dont hunt monsters they are isreal slaves
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>>563811490
>the common player says you should be sensible and just get stopgap items
>the ranked rapist just buys the 6400 greedily and it works out because people are too retarded to actually turn it into a issue
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>>563811346
>Baxter Society members willingly give up their arms in a Masonic initiation ritual
>Americans get their foreskins cut off as babies to mark them as goycattle
>These are somehow the same thing
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>>563812316
what's isreal
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>>563812515
it is real
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>>563812493
>rant over a easy dumb joke
rent free
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My mom told the doctors not to cut me
She said they were really pushy and she almost caved
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>play Kevin carry build
>most healing
>most player dmg
>mvp
how is that fair
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>>563812694
shekelberg needs his daily baby foreskin sacrifice to maintain his physical vessel
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>>563812694
how did your other mom feel?
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>>563812756
I wonder if anyone genuinely believes in the hygiene excuse. Like when do you ever hear of some dude dropping dead because his smegma poisoned him
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Just parry your circumcision bro
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>>563809776
>>563809950
My parents did exactly that, and I still got rejected.
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>>563812960
your parents emailed jeevacation@gmail?
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Valve needs to add more fat bitches to deadlock.
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>>563809123
And then they shart out terrible characters like Rem and Paige.
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>win game because a geist soloed the whole lobby
>win game because an abrams soloes the whole lobby
that 1% credit of those victories? All me
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>>563809123
>The "hotfix" that fixed absolutely nothing was shat out in a rush as they prepare for their all expenses paid vacation while earning 200k a year

This shit is Mojang tier.
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>>563813289
>200k a year
it's a shitload more than that dude
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>>563813332
per dev?
please tell me that's not true
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>>563813289
At least valve gives us something we can use. Not like Mojang who gives us a useless axolotl after a year long content drought.
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i am a trans woman and i play mina.
mad? or does it maybe....excite you? :3
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>wonder why my late game silver deals no damage
>turns out my build was selling gun for greens lategame
I'm so fucking retarded.
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>>563813289
>while earning 200k a year
The other guy is correct, its a shitload more than that because valve target hires accomplished designer developers and they already barely care about anything other than large money.
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>>563813390
I'm pretty sure it is, Valve's average salary is well-documented as being over 1m
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https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/1e4ufu9/valve_employee_numbers_and_salaries_got_released/
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And then they hire Hotpoo who made a bunch of imba heroes that made the game ass
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>>563813390
Its like 300k-1mil+ per each actual development worker.
I'm sure things like janitors and other workers are paid well but they actually have to make an attempt to lure and keep talent.
Think about what you'd need to offer someone like hotpoo who is sitting on risk of rain money
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>hotpoo ruins ROR2
>gets hired by valve and earns 1 million a year while ruining another game
there's truly no justice in this world
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>>563813571
>reddit
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>>563813604
he released two games that sold well and he meets the criteria of designer + developer which is what valve actually targets specifically.
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>>563813695
Yeah we know you stupid bitch
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>>563813474
Silver deals no damage regardless of your build
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>>563813571
> Hardware Developers: 41 people making average of 430k a year
LMAO the 'eck isn't selling so well huh
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>>563813775
That shits permanently sold out on their actual store, I think its because they have lower standards for the hardware devs they pickup.
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>pick hero
>buy only offensive items and 0 defensive items every game
>I either stomp and win the game really fast
>or I chain feed and lose really fast so I can move on
either way games don't drag on
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>the troubadour.....he killed my friends.......my family.....I'll chase him to the end of the world if I have too.....
>JUMP PAD OUT!
>WOOOOHOOOOOOOO
>HERE COMES THE BARREL!

so this is the power of le epic "valve storytelling"?
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>I got a pillow im so epic wholesome chungus :333
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Paige should be 100 pounds fatter.
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Rem is based
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based on stupid gay shit
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>>563814148
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guess its stupid dumb faggot o'clock
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>>563814450
Vindicta is 61ft tall?
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THIS is what Calico should look like!
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>>563814512
yes she should be white
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>>563814562
calico should be bald, wrinkly, purple and greasy like her cat
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Calico should be fat.
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>>563813595
Imagine paying that retard 500k+ a year just to make the worst characters imaginable

He said he hasnt even played a MOBA before. WHY IS HE HERE. I am uninstalling actually, it's just a hopeless game that's never gonna improve when people who dont even like the genre are working on it
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was it base guardians or base shrines that buff enemy creeps when destroyed?
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>>563814609
I'm actually okay with Calico being black because everyone except ann hathaway knows catwoman is black
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>>563814965
shrines, base guardians are zipline speed
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>>563815108
nigger
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>>563814719
I still don't understand why he said that. The original risk of rain had literal kits and items ported wholesale from dota and it was just made by him and some other guy iirc. Why reveal the most interesting parts of that game, and the ones that would fit the most for your current job, were made by someone else?
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>>563813430
that depends. do you go 0/6 and buy trophy collector or do you actually get things done
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>>563815226
>eartha kitt
>halle berry
>any other portrayals are by literal whos in comparison
she's black
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Light melee parries shouldn't stun
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all I want is a woman with feet
is that such a big ask?
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all I want is a woman with 4 paws
is that such a big ask?
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>>563816019
>they provided the footfag with vindicta in the starting roster complete with making them dirty
hello?
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>>563816019
I'm pretty sure most women already have feet
>>563816076
Based
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Footfags are mentally ill
There is nothing sexy about feet
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>>563815790
>light melees should be free
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>>563816202
this nigga has really never whiffed a woman's shoe
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>>563816353
I have never touched a woman, deadlock is better.
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Armpits are better
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All i want is a woman with some extra.
Is that such a big ask?
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>>563816438
>I have never touched a woman
its heavily overrated
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>>563809259
AI render of some fags OC from months ago that vaguely looks like the legit leaked portrait
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For me, it's hair
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WHY DO THE SUPER HARD CARRIES GET TO BE SO STRONG IN LANE?
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>>563815302
>the original and Michelle Pfeifferare literal whos
lmao nigger
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>>563809259
50/50, regardless I hope THE RIPPER is real so I can larp as a edgy retard in game.
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>>563817000
you heard me, bruce wayne has jungle fever
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>>563816959
you don't understand infernus/wraith/mirage/geist HAVE to be
>lane bullies
>hard farmers
>teamfighters
>splitpushers
>tanks
>1v1ers
>cc
bonus points for also having mobility for some reason
even more bonus points because they get to double dip on spirit items and still have gun related scalings


absolutely no downside to these nigger heroes, theyre strong at every fucking stage of the game
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>>563816959
This is my biggest issue in the game right now, carries should have attrocious early game but for some reason they're all at least DECENT in lane if not great. Who the fuck thinks this is okay?
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>>563816959
>poke out head to take a soul
>haze beams you down from halfway across the lane and you are stuck hiding waiting for the 15 fixation stacks to go away

Very fun
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when is he coming to deadlock?
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>>563817404
>carries should have attrocious early game but for some reason they're all at least DECENT in lane if not great. Who the fuck thinks this is okay?
This has been a thing for ages and it's always the same result; whenever gun/m1ggers are meta the game is unplayable and player numbers drop, everything revolves around who has the most broken/better gun carries.


It's a fundamental design issue and like the other 30 or so fundamental problems they're never properly addressed and changed despite being in an ALPHA so it's a constant repeat of the same horseshit.
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>>563817539
Lady Liberty is a girl, anon
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>>563817540
IMO, the core problem is that there is so many fucking random silences / mobility impediments in the game that obviously anyone who can ignore that and just shoot you is going to do great. A metric shit ton of abilities have silence or slowing-hex like effects built in, and I can only think of one ability that disarms.
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mothra when
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who takes the throne for lowest skill highest reward hero in the game

>nigfernus
>geist
>mina
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Heavy melees should disarm for 1.5 seconds
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>>563817861
dynamo
>I'M STOOOOOOOMPING
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>>563817767
Uhhh... Silver wolf 3 and Mo Sandblast
Thinking about it yeah I can't name another disarming hero. We need a hard anti-gun hero or two to fill out the roster and make carries seethe.
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>>563817249
Geist is weird as well since the matchmaker doesnt even consider her a carry, she's considered in the same role as characters like Abrams. Now she sucks at that role due to lacking CC but it does mean you can end up with 4 carries in a team. In general i think Geist is going to get her late game gun damage nerfed at some point, especially now that all the ecelebs have started bitching about her, but i doubt the nerf will be particularly harsh since shes sitting at a 50% wr because most people still go for retard spirit builds on her, or even bomb builds. Spirit can somewhat work since drain is a very powerful ability and can give good DPS, but bomb just sucks ass and is driving her wr down. She very much is a pub stomp character though, since the best counterplay against her is to poke and silence her to death, and in pubs you can easily get early game solo walkers with her and then snowball hard, since if she ever has a decent lead she can just 1v11
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heavy melees should critical hit if performed on someone who just whiffed a parry
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>>563817861
mo and krill, you literally just press 4 and your job is done
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>>563817249
At the very least Geist has to commit to a fight, Infern and Wraith get a get out of gank free button.
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>we need another CC spamming pedophile hero that prevents you from playing the game
No thanks.
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>be shiv
>fight mirage 1v1
>equal in souls
>running circles around him, hitting every knife, dashing through him, even get some light melees in
>the mouthbreather is literally just walking backwards shooting me brainlessly with bullets and scarabs
>have debuff remover, use it at the perfect fucking time
>considering i had a counter item and equal souls, I commit assuming i'll win the fight
>his colossal health bar that makes Mo seem like Krill is only halfway down
>mongrel continues to just click on my character while i tickle him
>my HP gets nuked and I die
I hope yoshi falls ass first onto a lionfish in Hawaii
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>>563818386
Dispel magic doesn't really work on him since he can just instantly reapply the scarab in 1 v 1s.
I love how Scarab went from the most useless ability in the game to the most broken
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>>563818057
I don't think late game bomb is bad with good positioning. escalating exposure, echo shard, plus her damage amp on 3 deals a lot of damage especially in places like pit and urn. The times it felt bad was when someone bought spellbreaker or they have flying characters.
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>>563797945
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtvSj6vKSBA
What is it about tf2fags that makes them so insistent and adamant that deadlock is TOOOOTALLY tf3 and an evolution of it when it's literally just dota but as a shooter?
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warden needs MASSIVE buffs. compared to every other carry in the game he is so weak. they need to give him some kind of on-hit debuff so he can compete
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how do i make vindicta and greytalon players regret picking the character outside of just rushing phantom strike
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>>563818057
>She very much is a pub stomp character though
she and warden are considered initiators like abrams/billy/silver/mo&krill which they are supposed to be.
geist in particular isn't just a pub stomp character, she is a leave a footprint in your ass character if you consider she is currently seeing pro play consistently.
I think she is fine as she is right now anyways, if you nerf the gun she will just fall out of play like warden did.
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>>563817861
Abrams. Mo, Geist, Mirage
>Mina
Mina is actually hard to pilot hence why she's not completely gutted since only really good players do well on her
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>>563818530
Buy an ad.
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>>563818057
matchmaker puts char roles into account? never had an impression of such thing existing
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>>563818578
Anvil?
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>>563818686
I'm literally calling him a fag and insulting the sacred cow that is TF2. You believe some they them retard would actually be able to manage something like that without having a meltie?
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>>563818386
scarabs apply a fucking -35% damage penalty at T3
and heal him
and you can't just cleanse them with dispel, because you have to save that for his 3 so you don't explode at 4/5 stacks
and even if you do, it's a charge ability and he's going to have recharging rush so he'll always have 2 in a fight if not more
and then he's still healing. while you're doing fuckall to him because you have a -35% damage penalty
it's hell. he's an insanely disgusting duelist and a solid teamfighter who will be in every single fight because of his T3 ult. there's no splitting, there's no "oh he's yellow we can do something green", he's everywhere. it's so digusting

>>563818530
>why is a team-based movement shooter with heroes made by the same company that made another team-based movement shooter with classes being compared???
you're doing the same thing they're doing but for you it's dota
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>>563813939
Counterbuying and objectives are the biggest midwit trap that only get parroted by shitties that only realized they're useful like a year and a half into the games lifespan, people counterbuy TOO much honestly to the point it guts their pressure / kill potential. Nothing makes me cringe more than seeing people counterbuying when they don't even need to instead of snowballing harder
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>>563818572
they just need to give him some gun damage back if they are going to leave geist as is, his other stuff is pretty good right now.

>>563818530
deadlock is meant to be for tf2 players, I wouldn't say its tf3 as it ended up a heroshooter/moba but it existed with tf2 character placeholders and the buyable items for stats/effects themselves can be seen a evolution from the items tf2 had.
its also feelwise vaguely familiar
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>bro imagine caring about your rank in alpha bro
okay then its fair game for me to abandon and get on an alt then if shitters are going to run this rampant since it doesnt matter right
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>>563818762
The only people that act like its some kind of contest and argue about it like they're sperging out about highschool drama. I like both games, and I find people like you to be faggots who need to find a new fucking hobby.
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>play mirage
>can't farm properly because I have to be at 50 places at once being lane jannie
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>Deadlock is like Tf2 it needs to be more like Tf2!
>NO NO NO DEADLOCK IS DOTA 3 ALSO WE NEED TO 1:1 PORT GLIBBLEGLORP AND SNEEDLEHEIMER TO SAVE THE GAME
You are both equally cancer and need to kill yourselves
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>>563818836
it really depends on the hero / game state
If you are a wraith or something, yeah, just keep scaling, but if you are playing a tempo / spirit hero and are falling behind / game is getting late just suck it up and buy something to help your team out.
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>>563818705
>matchmaker puts char roles into account
the characters internally have designed roles, and the matchmaker attempts to dole out balanced teams from what people have selected.
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>>563818578
Knockdown forces them to buy dispel and or counterspell, late game if they are still an issue phantom strike makes them non characters. For Vindicta in particular, if you deny her early game snipes then she can only really go for her support build to try and give value, so you've essentially succeeded in countering her.
>>563818646
She's very strong yeah, but way stronger in pubs than in pro play since its hard to get a meaningful lead with her if the enemy team isnt intentionally giving out objectives for free, which is why i consider her a pub stomper.
>>563818705
there is a system but i have no idea if we know the specifics, its why each team will always have at least one carry, support and initiator/frontliner. The issue is that Rem is weighed the same as eg Dynamo, or that as i mentioned Geist is in the same category as Abrams Billy etc while being effectively a carry.
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>>563818919
yeah it is
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>>563817861
Geist
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>>563819035
It's contextual but unless you're VERY behind you should be mild on the counterbuying and keep stacking damage, sometimes you just get raped by draft and you theoretically need a shitton of counters but if you just stack them up you'll basically be an annoying mosquito at best. Better to coinflip and hope you can actually win teamfights to turn the game.
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>One of the only carries without a get out of jail free card
>Easily countered
>Still causes mass seethe
How does Geist do it
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>>563817861
Mirage, easily.
Who takes the throne on the opposite end?
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>>563819430
how is geist easily countered
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>>563818940
>get a hobby
>he says as he posts on the /vg/ general on a weekday at 3 in the morning
stay classy, anon
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>>563819451
Silence wave and debuff remover
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Victor is the most challenging hero in the game to play.
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>>563819535
wow the same "counters" that counter 90% of the people in the game
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>6v6 video games
>90% of people who install refuse to cooperate
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>>563819557
Kek
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>YOOO DID YOU KNOW WE HAVE THE ICEFROG MAKING THIS GAME? IT'S THE NEXT THING FOR SURE!! HE MADE DOTA, BRO!!!!!!!
>fym this is just dota again? kill yourself. this is NOTHING like dota. it's entirely unique, something NEW!!!!

i keep forgetting this is a lot of people's valve's first game.
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>>563819535
>she buys warp stone so she can gap close
>she buys unstoppable so she cant be cc'd
ok now what
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Valve needs to add fatter women to deadlock.
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>>563819641
they used a fat woman placeholder for cadence who is supposed to be one of those old stereotypical fat woman opera singers, so you might get one soon.
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>>563819586
Your idea of cooperating
>Following you into losing fights
>Combining utility with you by reading your mind because you're muted
>Teleporting to your parried mutt self to parry for you because you held Q like a rabid dog
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holliday ult should reset if her victim dies. doorman gets it, why not her?
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your haze while the enemy is destroying shrines
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Actually I tell infernus to fucking push the lane while I am being hunt by 5 sexual predator as Rem, but nigger decide to go hit medium camp instead
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>>563819609
Wait a second...
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>>563819815
>>563819696
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>>563819792
holliday ult should just be straight up buffed heavily if you consider it serves a similar purpose as bebop's spammable hook
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>>563819815
Oh you're one of those retards
>Dry invades enemy jungle
>Starts to die like a dog
>False comms BRO FULL TEAM ON ME PUSH LANE
>Baits your teammate into dying if they actually push
He probably made the right decision
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>>563819696
My brother plays Deadlock and has extreme anger issues and every time he dies he starts smashing his desk and screaming "WHY DIDN'T MY TEAM FOLLOW ME!" "WHERE THE FUCK IS MY TEAM AT!" because nobody on his team magically read his mind and followed him
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>>563819815
>he actually expects a virtual african american demon to do his job
you did it to yourself
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>>563819919
i like how you added that made up in your head part for the last line just to be upset about something
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>>563819815
>As Rem
LMAO
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ivy plane go brrrrrr
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>>563819496
>get a hobby
I play video games. You sperg out about retarded lolcow youtubers and then bring that shit here because you want to start tribalist arguments for fun.
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they did something to graves? I suddenly suck shit with her
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>what if we made rubick but good
when will they delete fucking sinclair man, motherfucker will steal your ult and use it every 30 seconds and just win
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>>563819990
>Doesn't deny the rest of it
You are not taking space by dying like a retard on the enemy's side btw
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>>563819906
just had a better idea. holliday ult should reset if the victim DOESN'T die
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>>563819609
>dota carries are dogshit early
>the harder the carry the weaker they are in proportion
>balanced kits, if they have mobility they're even worse in lane and have very little teamfight potential while being squishier
>if they're tankier they have limited mobility and need to invest on extra items to not run around like a slow retard chasing people and getting perma kited
meanwhile deadlock
>infernus/wraith farm insanely fast, are lane bullies, scale insanely hard, have teamfight, insane mobility, cc, etc


This game is like a chink copy of dota without any of the balance or game design that came after 20 years of experience and developed by a rag tag group of chimpanzees
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>enemy whiffs parry
>heavy melee to punish them
>they roll away
Using parry should cost stamina
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>>563820289
Everyone here with half a brain knows parries aren't balanced
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>>563820272
>Abram won lane
>He become op later
>Abram lose lane
>He become op later
Illusion of choice
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>>563820289
The entire melee system is and has always been a complete broken mess.
The more you play this game the more you realize it's unholy dogshit.
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>>563820450
>Victor but better with hard cc on a 10 second CD (Less with Chainmail) and inbuilt infuser on siphon
I HATE IT
I HATE IT
I HATE IT
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>>563820289
>Light melee barely does any damage
>If you get parried doing it you get stunned long enough to get 100-0'd
Nerf fucking parries
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>>563820272
sadly trve. for a long time now i've just wished they got rid of the lane phase because it just feels bad to play this little mini game for 10 to 15 minutes every match.
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>>563820450
>>563820523
Reminder Abrams has been top tier in both solo queue and pro games since the game opened up and the micro second he's not top 5 he gets buffed back into that spot.
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>>563820563
i love playing in my shitter rank because it always goes like this
>light melee someone
>they respond to the melee hit sound, panic parry
>heavy melee them immediately afterwards
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>>563820289
BROOOO ONE TIME I GOT MELEE'D FROM 20FT AWAY DO IT'S OK I CAN JUST THROW OUT PARRIES ALL I WANT WITH NO DRAWBACK
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>>563820563
you used to be able to reduce parry stun with debuff resistance. they should bring it back
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>>563820359
>muh balance
just stop crying like a fucking bitch
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>>563820602
they fucked the lane phase up when they reduced the lanes in the map
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>>563820638
It's alright, Abrams players are like Geist players and build retarded shit more often than meta (like melee, or spirit for Geist) to keep their winrate just low enough to not generate community rage
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>>563820638
Its just fucking cheesy, people hate on billy but at least has to actually aim and land his melees without getting parried. Meanwhile abrams can just hold w with siphon and shoulder slam people into oblivion with little counterplay.
Its like they saw prime victor and thought
>You know what would be funny, if we gave him consistent 10CD CC!
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>>563820756
>to keep their winrate just low enough to not generate community rage
Isn't the lowest recorded Abrams winrate across all ranks like 51% and he was like 58% winrate all the way to eternus for a straight year
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>>563820734
finally someone who gets it.
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>>563820289
We can only hope Valve is doing some 200iq shit where they only keep parrying as bullshit as it is to catch scripters, 90% of the people parrying light melees are cheating, there's just no question.
>Stand next to someone
>No parry
>Repeat this for a few minutes
>Still no parry
>Send out ONE LIGHT MELEE
>Instant parried
Bullshit
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Make Deadlock 5v5 with 4 lanes
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>>563820891
valve is never gonna do the threadmill work require to even attempt to develop an anticheat system like that anon. what do you think this is 2004? lmfao don't make me laugh. they'll just outsource that work to the community itself like they've always done.
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Parry all you want but you won't have my respect
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Name: Smokey O' Day

Lore: ghost of a legendary baseball player

Gun: Spectral baseballs

Skill 1: His light and heavy melee have a 20% chance to stun the opponent for 1 second, also passively improves his gun

Skill 2: Skillshot. Smokey bats a ball and the ball will ricochet off walls dealing damage with each time it passes through opponent

Skill 3: Can turn into smokeghost not being able to attack but able to access vents and break boxes

Ult: Smoke bomb AoE cc in which he can travel and attack freely in his smoke form
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>>563821094
DING

get your bell rung bitch
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>toe step on infernus waste on the floor
>half hp gone
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Geist is a gun hero. If you want to spam wide AOE spells then just use Seven, bro.
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>>563821094
>https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/voicelines?voiceline=viper_parry_03.mp3
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>>563821094
I was finally having fun with melee builds and ofc they immediately decide to overtune parrying. now the second u look at someone with a melee item in ur inventory you explode
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Warden is such a placeholder, I hope he's getting some TLC soon
>no convos with other characters
>placeholder model
>untextured neon prime gun
>his 2 is just more boring guardian ward
>his 4 is just Abram's lifesteal AoE
The only parts of his character that doesn't feel like a placeholder is his 1 and 3
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>>563820891
A lot of parry situations are very obvious, such as sliding or jumping past people, climbing things, low hp, etc. It's easier than you think to land light melee parries.

People scripting will do it in non-obvious situations or will even cancel casts to autoparry, try Bebop's canceling their ults to autoparry, Haze canceling her ult to auto parry, etc. That can easily be tested by simply light meleeing next to them.
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>abrams on the enemy team
>just sending out melees like no tomorrow
>it works because my entire team is too stupid to ever try to parry
I'm in fucking ASCENDANT BTW
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>>563821563
>Please don't expose my scripting: the post
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>>563821635
No reason to be this insecure about your gutter rank
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>>563820891
>90% of the people parrying light melees are cheating
this thread cracks me up
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"the ritual"
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>>563821334
Seven is a gun hero. If you actually want to spam spam wide AOE spells then just use Pocket, bro.
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>open deadlock
>pick bot match
>chooses easy bots
>pick Graves
>get 30 kills
>close Deadlock
yep another day another dolla
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>>563821959
holy based
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>>563821890
Pocket is a gun hero THOUGH. Top 5 best gun scaling in the game. If you actually want to spam wide AOE spells then just use Dynamo.
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>>563821813
its a single wannabe thread schizo, seems to be in EU since he only posts this shit during day time in europe. Magically the second he makes his first muh autoparry scriptsssssss post ten million PARRYING IS BUSTED REMOVE IT FROM THE GAME posts are made when at any other time noone is complaining about this shit in the threads, so fucking organic
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Why is there no italian hero again? Doorman doesn't count.
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>>563822058
because italians are white and black characters are more important
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>>563822058
Wraith is sicilian
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>>563820289
>roll away
>get hit anyway
Loony tunes hitbox that stays behind. I ALWAYS get hit when I try to dodge the melee. But it hardly ever works when im the one heavy meleeing the other guy.
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>>563822180
oh please

she's from LE HARLEM
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>>563822058
still cant believe they made the obligatory zoot suit gangster some boring nigger woman
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>>563822058
Venator?
At least he works for the vatican.
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you're tellin me this fucking wise guy walks through doors?
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>>563822247
Venator is Irish
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>>563822298
I'm stupid and couldn't tell from the accent.
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>>563821563
>It's easier than you think to land light melee parries
I think scripting is more common than you give credit
There's maybe two situations where trying to parry a light is at all worth it and not actively fucking yourself over:
>Blasted Billy dashing towards you after shooting
Or
>You have no HP and the enemy is right next to you so it's your only hope
If someone tries to parry a light melee in any other situation it's to their detriment 19/20 times, so if they're landing those parries consistently it's basically guaranteed they're scripting.
If you just throw out a light melee it's genuinely shocking how often someone who would otherwise never do a parry animation in the middle of a fight will suddenly do it the one time it was beneficial.
It's to the point that even in situations where I could get away with a heavy, I just instinctively don't melee. If someone is stunned or slept I just shoot them. I'm fucking pavloved to assume they will manage to parry.
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>>563822373
he sounds like a leprechaun dude
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>>563821094
I report every "person" that uses parries.
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>I PRESS DA F KEY NOW I GET TO 100-0 YOU!!
Balanced and parry scripts don't exist either despite them being so high reward
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Solo queuing into a moba is just pure hell. I want to like this game but something about this genre brings out the worst in humans
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>>563818530
because deadcunts think tf2 is dead when it's pretty obviously not. Sure, it's not what used to be, but I've yet to see a single TV Tropes page that uses it as an example for a trope (aside from its own page)
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>>563798139
Calm down Mina!
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>>563822615
You'd be right to since 90% of them are cheating
>Someone gets an ultra instinct parry against light melee
>Check profile
>Private
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>>563818530
>pink haired catboy avatar
So he's trans right

>>563822738
It'd be better off dead honestly
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>>563822852
So would World of Warcraft and LoL, yet people play them still.
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>>563822721
lol noob
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I'd play Mina but people say how hard she is so I'm afraid of even trying
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>>563822401
Viscous players are one of the few that know that autoparry is ubiquitous by witnessing the frame perfect parries before puddle punch even makes an audible sound, even when hitting them out of their fov.

I think it's a testament to how the melee system needs to be reworked if autoparry can operate as such a braindead nonintrusive cheat that a good amount of people in this thread could write their own script.
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>>563822956
>Bro even though melee even at its best only does as much as one Apollo dash you SHOULD be able to "counter" it by getting 3 second CC
Kill yourself
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>>563822970
shes top 5 easiest to play tranny-friendly characters in the game though?
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>>563822871
You right, you right
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>>563822852
nonbinary, chud!
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>play Apollo
>get slow hexed
>3 abilities no longer usable
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>>563822970
Buy lots of gun stuff
Press 4 to make players and objectives instantly die
Free sustain
Free escape
Hover to make bad players unable to track you

One of the simpler characters in the game really
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>>563823117
Plus the world is so batshit crazy you could drop the Wattersons in Teufort and they, the talking animal Simpson expies, would be the normal ones.

Until they drank the lead-laden water.
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>Victor is now a gun hero
This patch is on its way to become the most jank retard shit ever.
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how about this, if both characters heavy melee each other they get stunned for a shorter time + share half the total heavy melee damage of both. Pic related
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>>563823043
>I think it's a testament to how the melee system needs to be reworked if autoparry can operate as such a braindead nonintrusive cheat
And they'd be hard as fuck to detect if you tweaked them not to work perfectly all the time
If you only parry light melees like a quarter of the time that's still really helpful but also kind of hard to accuse someone over, if you only auto-parry like 93% of heavies and puddle punches that's still helpful and probably in-line with someone having good reaction times.
I think if we start seeing auto-counterspells they may re-assess how they want parrying to work as a mechanic.
Because desu I like the mindgames with melee. But when I shoot someone in melee range for several seconds as a character that doesn't melee, with no melee items, and I tap my light melee and they instantly frame-perfect parry, it makes me not want to touch the mechanic at all.
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>>563823164
>don't slowing hex the apollo
>get assraped by his 4 nukes, stun, and execute
>slowing hex the apollo
>still get assraped by his stun, 4 nukes, and execute right after
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I'm always the key player but I keep losing
why can't I get a teammate that's better than me
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Why the fuck are people metafagging in brool mode? The fucking retard mode, with no rank, where games are mostly decided by the completely random items you roll. You have faggots sperging out over you picking none meta characters and that you are 'throwing'. Just shut the fuck up and play the main mode if you want competitive shitflinging.
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>3 game winstreak all with very fun close games
>Roll for another and was immediately put into a lobby
>Immediately realize something was wrong
>Team was full of lobotomies and retards, basically a stomp
What Yoshi giveth, he taketh.
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Silver's wolf form m1 attacks should benefit from melee buffing items
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hookshot melee damage should scale by how far you pull the target from, up to 500%
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>>563823961
Erm aktually she's le op, now excuse me I have a game of Mirage/Dynamo/Kelvin/Abrams/Venator to play nothing to see here.
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>>563824031
post it on the forums
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>>563823961
>melee buffing items
Some of it works on her. My favorite is lucky shot.
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>>563823912
I'm surprised by how many tryhards are in that mode. Hell I see more seethe and BM in Brool nowadays than I do on normal mode.
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>>563824041
She's not OP just middle of the pack strong which makes Silvertrannies seethe relentlessly
>NOOOO WHY DID I LOSE MY FOTM RAIDBOSS STATUS
Just play one of the devs pet heroes that is always broken like Abrams
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idk about you guys but i personally am very much enjoying this era of fbi agents infiltrating cheat groups and trying to get them esports careers cause its that or domestic terrorism. i love getting matched with the exact same literal federal agents every single time i load up the game
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>>563822401
Well, yes, parrying in a face-to-face shootout is generally very bad unless you have good reason to anticipate a melee, but it's definitely worth it to throw in parries if you're flying past or sliding past players because it doesn't fuck your momentum and you're not left standing face to face with someone.
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>Bro your parry was just obvious even thought you baited multiple times and got nothing but the one second you even think about meleeing you're insta parried
Is this genuinely not suspicious to you retards?
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>vampire girl
>2 stamina
>giant blackhole lard
>3 stamina
Make it make sense
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>>563824561
Only females can have less than 3 stamina.
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>>563824561
mina is built for RAPE domloss
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>>563824260
Silvertrannies still pretend she's S tier for some reason
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>>563824260
>She's not OP just middle of the pack strong
I won't even disagree but with the way the patch is now if you aren't being a meta slave then playing is exhausting. Every game has Dynamo. Every Game has Mirage. And you know yoshi will fuck you in the ass by putting both of them on the enemy team (Don't worry, you have holiday to compensate!)
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>>563824927
The only kind of players that try to say a character is S tier are the ones that hate them and want them to be nerfed. Are you retarded or something?
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>>563824695
based and true
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>Ivy
Wife
>Silver
Secondary wife (for some reason she's proud of this)
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>>563825131
That's what the silvertrannies do, yes.
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>How fun is it to play AGAINST (your main)
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>>563824561
mina's umbrella catches in the air and slows her down
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>duo on our team insists on laning together
>One is Initiate
>The other is the highest ranked on our team but decided to get high before he played
>watch their lane get so fed the Victor doesn't need to jungle to come online
It was kind of insane, everyone else on our team had a positive K/D and good soul economy but because a duo decided to nuke the lobby we got stomped by an enemy team where the only positive K/D was a victor that ended the match with 70k souls
What do I do in this scenario, tell the duo to go fuck themselves and split them up?
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>>563825794
You could be eternus 6 and still struggle to carry games like that, just GG and go next.
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>>563825832
Yeah, I'm not that high but it's not the first time I queue emissary and the game decides to throw Initiates in my lobby because someone high ranked wanted to queue with their shitty friends or because the enemy team is also split ranks
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>silver in the team again
God fucking save me
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>>563824561
it's not realistic sure
but from a gameplay perspective, fuckin' duh dude
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>>563826147
Dynamo should have 2 stamina with all the horseshits he have
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>>563817861
>mina
>highest reward
if you dont know how to play mina you will feed 12 times a game
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>>563826130
AWOOOOOOOO
I'M HERE TO 50/50 YOUR GAME
Be nice
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i really enjoy all the deadlock silly pictures they are so fun
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>>563826147
Dynamo could legit have 0 stamina and still have his current winrate, his kit is so overtuned and he has nutty stats on top, him having three stamina is just bullshit.
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I tried mina and I was forced to use mute button on my team
otherwise she needs too much aiming for my tastes
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They called my bebop a clanker so called him a nigger and they had the Audacity to call ME Racist
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>stone gargoyle woman
>four stamina?
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>>563826274
Mina isnt really difficult to play once you realise that all you have to do is poke then fuck off, she's just the designated shitter that just picked up the game character and those people think they should be able to stay in peoples faces indefinitely and shit their pants when it doesnt work out
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>>563826342
>Decent gun
>3 Stam
>Stomp does absurd damage and has retarded range
>Entanglement means you can escape any ability or phase through walls
>Respectful healing at max rank
>Best ult in the game that can solo carry losing games
Yup, sounds balanced to me!
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>>563826440
yeah thats what i meant she's not dynamo where you can just press one button to win the entire game or press one button to get stamina back dispel and save a teammate or press one button to clear a wave knock up someone do 90x damage and reduce their resistance lowest skill highest reward just doesnt fit Mina
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>>563825281
She's so adorably pathetic she's just happy she's even got second place.
>This will increase her wife rating.
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>>563826375
ivy gets 4 cause she has wings
mina gets 2 cause it's daytime
silver gets 2 because she's a HWHITE WOMAN
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Why is there a dedicated larper pretending any game with Silver is lost when she isn't even one of the worst heroes in the game? Hit me up when she's as bad as Bebop or Talon
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>>563826581
>silver holliday and mcginnis all have 2stam
how does geist escape the white woman curse
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>>563826639
she has revitiligo
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>>563826581
why does holliday a fit cowboy girl have 2 stamina?
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>>563826639
1 from oathkeeper
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>>563802617
Looks great
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>>563826728
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>>563826616
>Talon
Talon is literally slept on he's so fucking strong if his model gets updated you WILL complain about him
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>>563826750
Too many marlboro reds
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>>563826750
fell off a horse as a child, never fully recovered
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>>563809259
Looks alright more interested than the Rem leak though 90% sure he's just some fan design.
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>>563826839
>Feast or famine hero that gets gutted by spellbreaker
Meh
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Can Rem ever not be useless?
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>>563826130
me when i select silver and i get her
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>Celeste is now at the bottom of the tier lists
sad
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Give me a build id vic bros, I want to learn him.
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>>563826750
stopped doing cardio after she discovered she could fire jump pads out her ass
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>>563827089
Genuinely fucking me.
I love silver and I want to get better at her and learn to roam confidently but I don't want to throw learning to do that so I just play other chars and put her on medium prio and then go "Oh boy" when I get her.
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my low power level, high impact wife!
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>>563827076
He’s good at trolling his own team by feeding unsecured souls
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>>563827409
learn drifter
they play almost exactly the same for the first 20 minutes. drifter is pick up and play and even the most retarded drifter can buy duration and refresher to guarantee the game winning fight
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>>563821172
I like it. nice ideaguy post. make sure to post on the forums
rng bash would mindbreak the average deadcock. passives should be on 3 though, as is tradition
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holy shit hotpoo is retarded
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>>563827460
god shes so fucking ugly, look at those eyes and ears and lips
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what's your favorite "Xing in the Hideout" line?
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>>563828235
god youre so fucking gay
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>>563828610
i like paige's "gooning in the hideout"
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How do I become the biggest PEST possible on Kelvin?
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>>563829097
Pick Kelvin
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Why does Holliday have the most voicelines and conversations? Is Valve going to try to shoehorn her into the main character role? This is utter woke nonsense
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>>563828610
For me it's
>Figuring Out What Happened Last Night in the Hideout
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>>563829390
Probably because her VA was on-call during the latest batch of new heroes so she had more conversations
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Why are so many characters seemingly intentionally designed to be as annoying as possible to fight against? Half of the roster can dive you under your tower/walker without any punishment whatsoever.
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>>563829568
>under your guardian
yeah pretty much any hero can do that, period. guardians are weak
>walker
very few can do that without being gigafed
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>>563828610
warden's
>Training in the Hideout
everyone else is one leisure time but he has a one track mind
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>>563829568
the game gives everyone a lot of movement tech so they can be in risky places for short amounts of time. if you're playing against humans, they're going to try to outplay you and that can be annoying.
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Slow fucking thread
I'm diagnosing it with Silver deficiency
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>>563830938
When are they buffing her
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So when are we going to get our own equivalent to a Dopa or an Agurin, solo queue masters that consistently climb to the top of their servers by playing the numbers game and always doing the statistically optimal moves instead of sperging over their retard teams? I just feel that noone has actually solved this game yet, especially when it comes to clearing jungle. The only thing that is established is catch wave, split push if more than 4 enemies are known to be tied up somewhere else. Everything else about roaming/jungle farm is up in the air, though i suppose it isnt that important to figure out now due to the jungle rework being closeâ„¢. Whats extra funny though is something i had heard in a new player guide video, maybe from deathy though i dont exactly remember rn, that if your team calls for a bad play its better to follow the bad play than to go do a good play elsewhere. This is opposite to Dopa and Agurin's experiences with solo queue climbing in league. I havent really touched league much beyond some general research in the topic of soloq but i do know that the objectives in that are generally smaller value than in deadlock, so maybe its good to follow a bad mid call to increase chances of it succeeding since it might decide the match, but i still generally find the idea of commiting to clearly retarded plays to be a bad move overall.
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>>563831210
Two more weeks
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>>563831423
Six people doing something stupid together are more powerful than one person doing something smart alone.
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>>563831423
sorta depends
a bad mid call can decide the game so if you don't show up then its a loss for sure. you should show up because its the only way to show agency
a bad fight in the early or mid game nudges the game in the enemy team's favor. you should ignore this and instead choose a good action
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>>563831638
This, you can tell your team to not do mid with dynamo alive but you can't make them stop; it just be in the pit far back with a stun. Going for optimal plays often loses the game.
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>get silver on team
>lose because we're 5v6
Classic
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>>563799473
is ivy good for taking objs?
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>>563832564
static area denial bomb which is balanced around enemies walking out of it
gun steroid
yeah
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I am honest to god bad at fighting, who should I play/how should I play to be the most effective tower taker
>>563832873
ivy seems good for that, at least
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Why can't I parry bullets and stun m1ggers
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>>563833394
you can by playing apollo
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>>563833658
I don't play iggers
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scrap the replay system and build it up from scratch
>click on the timeline
>it replays the entire replay form the start at x16 speed
>it races past the point I clicked
>press +/- 10 seconds
>it jumps a minute
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Drifter is easier to play than silver and your average drifter is more effective than the average silver in game.
However a decent Silver one trick is far more effective than a decent Drifter one trick.
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how do i manage drifter's ammo pool without wanting to kill myself
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>>563834330
Stop building fire rate except k dash and your only other orange items should be toxic and backstabber / slowing bullets
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>>563834095
They aren't really comparable in playstyle but yeah Silver is harder to play
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>>563834330
Merc mag
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>>563833982
I doubt it's been touched since it was first added, I'm surprised it still works.
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>>563833326
anyone with aoe or dots, but not shiv
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>>563834330
Titty Mag got buffed, try that or slide max.
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>>563833982
theres also some weird graphical glitches in it like Vindictas scope having a giant lense flare in it, Drifter's ult not being rendered properly from the perspective of whoever you are spectating, soul confirm/deny not being rendered etc
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How to play doorman effectively? Every one i see just fucking doors and dies with no real goal in mind
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oh my! what a delicious looking creep! and so low health too, how convenient!
hmm... how unfortunate that my gun is out of ammo... perhaps I should...
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my beautiful glittery equine wife
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>>563835496
stop playing doorman you fucking retards
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>>563835682
Never ever use melee attacks, they are not worth the risk
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>>563835682
REM NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Bebop will never be good as long as he has that hook
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Bebop will always be good as long as he has that hook
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I love terrorizing shitlow as Bebop. Fuckers always try to play aggressive and then get hooked over to my tower.
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Who is the audience for this game?
Zoomers won't play it, the people playing right now are millenials and washed esports players+trannies.
Once the game releases the movement techs and knowledge barrier will be so vast that new players will quit before touching it or after one game max.
The dev team have also demonstrated that they suck at balancing and the matchmaking is legit the worst of ANY competitive game.
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>>563836549
>doom babble
sex with mina
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>kelvin presses 2
>flies away for free (immune to slows and knockdown, cant shoot him from below)
cool hero, hope he gets buffed more!
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>>563835682
god I love doing this to people
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>>563836549
>Once the game releases the movement techs and knowledge barrier will be so vast that new players will quit before touching it or after one game max.
Movement doesn't matter until you hit high ascendant or eternus
You can climb to phantom just by basic macro and good aim.
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>>563837219
Tell that to niggas in my Initiate games who somehow fly through the whole map in 5 seconds.
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>>563836549
>Zoomers won't play it.
But I am playing, everyday in fact. Do you mean gen A?
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>>563837219
>You can climb to phantom just by basic macro and good aim.
This is blatantly false, unless you have a premade. Oracle is smurf city so you reguraly play against Asc+low eternus players as well as other Oracles.
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Doorman was so fun now he's just a liabilty
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>30 years old
>people think my cultural outlook and values should align with someone who is 17
Generationalism is so stupid
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We need an animated series of just Drifter and Rem being buddies walking around New York having adventures
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>>563837891
>as well as other Oracle smurfs (also hardstuck oracle).
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>>563834841
>both lane by opportunistically taking close range pokes
>both roam in the early/mid game looking for skirmishes and people playing solo
>both all in on a target for a kill
they play very similarly until late game
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>teammate rages so hard he adds you after
lol
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mina just sent me this pic, what does she mean?
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>>563838235
Small penis
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>>563838274
cruel and bratty mina ha SPH...
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mina just sent me this pic, what does she mean?
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Anonnnn.....your search for a girlfriend is proving labourous. Summon the Hidden King and it will all be a worry no more
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Is this why I can't find games, everyone is in a rut?
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>>563838623
If it got me a autistic asian mina cosplayer gf then I'd summon the hidden king alright.
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>>563838739
jbw
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>>563838623
The hidden king would turn anon into the gf
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Still waiting on the Vyper model rework into a proper sexy snake lady.
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>>563798946
Iirc nothing in the kit is even remotely related to Raven, and supposedly nothing in the backstory is either.

>might be called "Mr. Ripper", the obvious implication being a connection to the infamous Jack
>is yet another vampire, but also belongs to the Baxter Society?? So I guess they just outright accept monsters as members which makes whatever Shiv has going on seem completely unimportant. Also if he really is Jack the Ripper turned over a new leaf, like what the fuck lol, what are they doing recruiting what would have been one of the most high profile monster murderers pre-Maelstrom?
>has a gauntlet with bladed chain fingers
>abilities, from what I recall, involved bleed stacks, as well as another tether vortex ability similar to Billy

All in all it feels kind of weak, the one upshot is that besides the mixed signals behind his lore he at least feels properly Deadlock-y, I just wish we didn't have so many goddamn vampires. Surely they can pull from some other folklore sources to fill the niche of a ghoulish old man who loves visceral murder.

>it's basically just Walter from Hellsing

Fuck, someone on the team is a huge weeb, we'd have three characters all taking cues from the same source by now.
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>>563839062
i just use my imagination
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>>563839145
Maybe he's Baxter and the society is named after him
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>>563838351
>Good God, Anon, if you're not going to have anything in your wallet at least have something in your pants...
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>>563839145
>Fuck, someone on the team is a huge weeb
Thankgod they're at least into the Anime that was good and not the slop I see normoids watch today.
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>>563838417
exploding eye hand penis, i can only presume going off the answer to the prior question
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>>563836549
This post has all the makings of a dogshit post.
>Coomshit mod image
>Doomfagging
>generation label sperging
>"MUH TRANNIES"
>"THIS ALPHA GAME'S MATCHMAKING SUX BTW"
Genuinely please uninstall and fuck off from here.
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What animal is grey talons fly move supposed to be
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>>563839396
Mina Butt is based though.
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>>563839243
Baxter and Society...
Hideo and Kojima...
I and Vy...
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>>563839424
native american
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paradox time-thighjob
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We live in a society bottom text
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>>563839786
we live in a baxter society
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>>563839875
and it has our numbah...
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>>563839924
ur given a numba at birth and society has it...
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>>563828203
Another day another banger from Hopoo genius designer of Risk of Rain and its middling sequel!
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>>563839145
I'm hoping the Baxter Society connection is not as straight forward as the leaks make it seem:

>maybe he was Baxter Society but left it like Calico because he wanted to become a vampire (another similarity to Walter, here)
>maybe the connection to the BS is that he is not a member but is a contracted killer used by vampire high society when a BS hunter gets uppity and tries to off a well-to-do vampire, like he specializes in hunting monster hunters

Really the Jack the Ripper thing is the lamest part that I hope is just coincidental or an early abandoned concept they haven't disassociated with yet. We have a bunch of serial killer stuff already and we have a bunch of vampire stuff already, and we already have a vampire serial killer.
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>>563834841
>>563834095
Drifter barely has to aim due to how wide his projectiles are, it's basically a long ranged slash and you don't need to hit all 3 points to do full damage. This makes drifter have ironically more range than silver's gun.
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>Victor is THE foid-magnet
>Mina is THE troid-magnet
Who is the moid-magnet?
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>>563839663
he's a human being not a coon.
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>>563840463
Silver
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>>563840463
The Lash of course.
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>>563840463
Rem
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>>563840463
Silver
I can fix her.
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>>563840497
>>563840605
I wish Silver wasn't a fucking meme with comp players and streamers. The bitch is C tier at best, but will never get buffs because of these delusional faggots.
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>>563840463
abrams or venator
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>>563840745
Rework her ult to be stronger but with a significantly longer cooldown and both issues are fixed
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>>563840745
I never want her to be actually meta honestly, it means I can one trick her consistently.
It does mean tanking your rank when you're up against meta heroes but losing with honour is more important rather than being a gay sad meta slave.
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>>563809254
Solo kills have insanely inflated value because it need to split the kill bounty evenly between everyone.
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>>563839506
Coom posting is fine on it's own but what's the point if you're going to doompost in the same post, it just spoils it and makes makes you seem like a complete porn addicted loser slapping coom shit on completely unrelated posts.
>>563840308
Drifter's damage fall off is so bad that your claim isn't actually really true. Even you do full damage with one projectile, damage fall off still fucks you over over the pellet spread from silver. Also Drifter's gun just flat out stops working from a certain distance. Even with her q up as long as you have it T3d and you land 1 pellet from each shot you still do a good chunk of health.
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>>563840941
I'm not that anon, I just enjoy my goonbait.
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silver glossy lips
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>>563840745
B-A tier*
She's unironically one of the best roam/carry harassers in the game if you know how to play her and
The issue is that if you're not good at roaming to take good 1v1s then you're never going to make an impact in your game.
Roamer/carry-harass is unironically one of the most difficult roles in the game though, so it's easy to see Silver's suck shit when they try to play her as a brawler or carry and write off the character entirely.
It's rare because you basically need to have the game sense to play a roamer and one trick silver but roamer silver will absolutely rape you in your own jungle.
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>>563840909
She is meta though, but only at e6.
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Apollo before penetration
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/voicelines?voiceline=fencer_use_power4_start_05.mp3
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>>563840941
>Drifter's damage fall off is so bad that your claim isn't actually really true.
At least Drifter has damage.
Silver with all these items (of which she will pretty much never buy since she needs more greens) can't even break the 200 dps mark.
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>>563842135
>dps
>silver
do you even know what the character does
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>>563842324
She does a little burst and then dances around yes.
But the point mr. Inbred anon, Is that these anons were comparing Silver to Drifter saying they are similar.
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Silver upplayers getting uppity again.
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I swear in some games you don't have times to farm
like I have to hop between lanes, push waves and make sure enemies won't get close to walkers while everything burns, I have just made geist fuck off from yellow when I see huge teamfight at our base and we lose shrine at 15 minute
how the fuck am I supposed to farm in game like that
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who is the better tower killer shiv or driftah
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>>563842535
they play the same role in the match with the difference that drifter scales into a giga gun carry/teamfight ultbot and silver doesn't scale at all
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Funny how Victor plays now. He needs to die so he can fucking shoot you to death.
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>>563843195
I like to kamakaze on Vic now. It's extremely funny to watch them all panick when the slow kicks in.
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>>563801570
Make her flat
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Just got kicked from a match and can't reconnect, anyone else?
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>>563842980
shiv dots do not work on objectives
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>>563840308
Drifter's gun is so bad with range it's only beaten by Graves and Apollo with how shitty it's range is.
>>563842535
Both characters are seemingly supposed to be played like jungle roamers and fuck over carries by killing them. The issue is that Drifter's jungle roam wasn't even that good even before his changes in wraithcalicopocalypse turned him into a complete ult bot. You can totally still play him as one, but if you know how to invade jungle and take good fights you might as well play Silver because she's much better at it than drifter because she can actually kill people. I'm more scared of getting jumped by a decent Silver than I ever am a drifter in jungle because if Silver is hitting her shots and bolas you're just fucking dead. Drifter doesn't have the damage to dive in on people in jungle unless he's already fed and usually Drifter will die for it if anyone shows up.
Silver can just get a wolf form pop and then press 2 onto a building and leave.

Drifter is a good training wheels character to get used to jungle roaming since he's easier to play than silver though and has a backup plan if he blows so it hurts less when he fucks up.
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>streamer faggot
>goes ELEVEN (11) deaths in lane
>to a PAIGE
>as Silver
I just want to learn how to Doorman ffs
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>>563842980
Shiv is better at fighting under tower and actually killing people under it just because he's so tanky and he can spam slice and dice.
Drifter I guess kills the tower faster cus gun character.
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>>563843065
Drifter does Silver role better, her only saving grace is bola. Drifter not only actually scales but has one of the best ultimates in the entire roster.
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>>563844337
>watching streamers play deadlock
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FIX HOLLIDAY NIGGA
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>>563843549
guh
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>>563844472
she feels pretty good right now
only thing I could ask for is lasso buff or a completely new skill on 3
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>>563844470
retard-kun, they advert it within their streamer name
also how fucked is your reading comprehension?
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>>563844594
she is terrible, apologize when she gets reworked pussy
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>>563844686
nah nigga, stop trying to gut my character cuz you're too shit to stop on the wahoo pad
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how do i kill a 6k hp mohammed skrillex who also has 80% resistance against eveything (its 20 minutes into the game)
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perhaps i lack enough experience or am too idealist to judge but what causes holliday to fall apart in practice because on paper she sounds like she shouldn't be rotting in D-tier hell but here we are
>spammable spirit option + some nice displacement
>incredible mobility with bing bing wahoo pad
>crackshot works well enough as poke
>solid single-target stun ult, usually requires a little help but is still great for setting up picks
is it just numbers or is there something else because i don't see what would really make her as weak as she is, but she just. is
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>>563827180
Heresy for Spirit
Zzerial for gun I guess
Althought I'm not sold on gun Victor at all. Its strong early but falls off mid/late, nothing about his kit synergizes with it besides the slow on 3
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>>563801570
Those people are gay and retarded make her even bigger
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>>563844438
Lol no. Drifter is easier but not better.
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>Beat smurfnigger Mirage that was shittalking us midgame with a big comeback
>As gun Lash
Alright that's enough DL for today best game I'll have for a while. He had a Rivals pfp too
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>>563845417
maybe not enough built in utility because people are too stupid to step on jump pads
she compares to mo in that they're both single target stunbots but mo has the disarm and soaks a fuck ton of damage. holliday just nukes but her nukes aren't exceptional to make up for the lack of utility
give jump pad an alt cast that lets you place it directly underneath someone
give crackshot the accuracy debuff from doorman's bells
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>see streamer name in my match
If I see you in my games that means youre in shitlow and bad like me why would I want to watch you play?
What causes this? Retardation.
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nigga i'm trappin in hawaii don't ask me for shit
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>>563845417
The number 1 Holliday in NA (the_lavabolt, afaik he isnt a streamerfag) has a 54% winrate with her atm in eternus 5 and 6 lobbies, so clearly it is possible to do well with her. I've never seen any of his replays but from occasionally seeing him in NA streamers games he seems to have really good eco and gamesense, and generally hits his shots. My overall estimate of her is that the difficulty in getting anything out of her kit is what has caused everyone to just give up, and only some really dedicated players stick with her. There's also a Russian streamer called Illarya that plays her a lot, and the guy is considered amongst the top movement players in the world atm.
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so tired of gunshit meta
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>>563827460
>not using the canonically and spiritually correct skin
Gun Spy
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>>563845417
>spammable spirit option + some nice displacement
means nothing other spirit spamming abilities do 9.5 quintillion damage by the time you get tier 3 + RR for spam its already over everyone has way too much hp
>incredible mobility with bing bing wahoo pad
great for getting in and out of team fights problem is your enemy can use it for some stupid reason to chase you down plus who cares? you can plink people and annoy them thats it if Holliday was good this would probably be busted but she sucks so who cares
>crackshot works well enough as poke
another awful ability even poke it sucks
>solid single target stun
not only do you have to rely on your team to actually shoot them any team with a brain will have some sort of debuff resist so they can nearly instantly break out of it and just kill you because lol you're Holliday
There's a reason why the team that gets Holliday always loses she physically cannot do even a CRUMB of what other heroes can do she is by far hands down the most shit character in the entire game even worse than bebop yes
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>>563846426
everything about her kit has a layer of inconsistency except jump pad. I wouldn't be surprised if she was good and the majority of players are either too shit or can't be bothered to learn her
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>>563845957
Silver is only marginally better because of bola.
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You think Yoshi and Icefrog are exploring each others bodies right now?
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>DUUUUUUUUDE WHY AREN'T YOU MODDING?
>DID YOU JUST POST A SCREENSHOT WITHOUT A MOD? WHY AREN'T YOU AN ATTENTION SEEKING FAG LIKE ME?
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>>563846426
I don't think any hero in this game is bad enough that you can't do well if you're an extremely good player (E6 players are leagues ahead of your average player) it's just that certain heroes provide more value than others, some heroes even have inherent value and demand respect basically just by existing (usually frontliners)

He does good on Holliday but he'd probably be better if he was on whatever meta FoTM hero, or just someone generally strong. She definitely needs some tweaks, especially to her ult. Bebop hook is basically superior and the CD isn't helping, she also lacks agency in the sense she needs her team to actually act on her ult
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>eternus still hasn't realized gun carry paradox is back
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>>563828837
no, that would be holliday
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>>563846710
This cool you can do great on Holliday now imagine if he was playing someone like Vyper he'd just slaughter the server
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>>563818578
Fools would tell you Knockdown, but the real answer is Magic Carpet on Abrams
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>>563846594
>your enemy can use it for some stupid reason
they don't get the 0 air resist and movement speed boost
if you ever get caught by an enemy following you on a jump pad it's 100% a skill issue
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>>563846654
Not really.
Drifter's DPS genuinely is not that much better than Silver's and Drifter doesn't even have slam shot or wolf form for huge burst. Silver can afford to buy silencing wave on top of it while Drifter is still stuck buying all gun items.

Silver flat out just kills faster mid/early game with her burst which is what really matters when roaming enemy jungle because the moment you jump someone you're on a time limit before you're fighting a 1v2.
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>'jakposting
Hehehe you see dat shit?
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>>563846715
>Gun Paradox
>Spirit Drifter
>Gun Lash
>Spirit Silver
>Gun Bebop
>Spirit Mcginnis
A lot of weird shifts in heroes meta builds, not completely sold on gun Paradox though. It might be her best build in theory (I don't know I don't play her or see her anymore) but even then she's still probably shit so why bother
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>>563844337
so the trick to Doorman is just not to play him and play carry because every game has FEEDING RETARDS THAT PLAY SEVEN OR INFERNUS
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>>563847038
spirit drifter fucks for all the reasons >>563846950 mentions
buying gun items before you're stacked is just cucking your power curve for le potential man powerfantasy. buy the rape actives
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>>563846513
autism
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>>563847207
we know bro, he's a tf2 player.
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>>563846950
Drifter just can't even be compared to her his playstyle is a lot more like playing with your food (with toxic, decay, mark, etc) then getting some burst damage in to finish the job. Silver is just full on burst she might actually be one of the best heroes in the game in that regard. Silver also benefits from making teamplays. Drifter kind of just looks for picks or joins teamfights and assaults the backline / whoever is weak
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>>563847146
If you're playing spirit drifter then you're not playing him as a jungle roamer, you're just playing him as a your average spirit mid fighter.
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>>563847146
Gun is such a noob trap on Drifter you just stack DoT slop and spam marks on people and pray they aren't smart enough to get dispel you only really stack gun towards the end of the game before that you shouldn't have more than slowing bullets, toxic, and backstabber
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>>563846604
>>563846710
https://statlocker.gg/profile/1162416085/heroes
this is the guys statlocker, and yeah he's got some cracked stuff like 62% Paradox, though i think that was in lower ranks. Still, its proof that Holliday isnt completely useless, but just isnt worth picking over anyone else.
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>Silence Wave Into Bola Into Jump Kick
YUP, ITS SILVER TIME MOTHERFUCKER
THE WOLF STALKS HER ENEMIES
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>>563840936
they really, really need to retune the hero bounty system mechanics, it's just so absurdly designed
kills early barely matter, not only do they come back without missing a wave but they give barely any souls
and then you get a solo kill lategame and you put them on an 80 second timer AND get a T3 item worth of souls
way too wacky

>>563842049
his desperation lines are so good
i feel like they tie his entire character together
lash desperation lines too
kino
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>no CC
>no unstoppable
>3 down
>multiple teammates spamming retreat
>they still try to steal rejuv with 4+ enemies in the pit
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>>563847502
>Unironically plays bomb Paradox
>62% WR
I thought you guys told me that build was a meme
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>'gun build'
>look inside
>it's just Toxic Bullet spam
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>>563847441
negative
rend + solo kill spirit actives just kills people
especially if they're bums and don't buy dispel. you either initiate and kill them in the first round of burst or re-engage for a second rend and kill then
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>>563828203
based GODpoo
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I am a contrarian snowflake, which hero do I main if I want people to think
>''wow hes doing good on THAT hero?''
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>>563847813
Its arguably the best item in the game I buy it everytime on Silver
Pair it with express shot and you can trigger it so fast.
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>>563847654
you're retarded because thats the only way to play her
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>>563848009
Can't think of anything other than Holliday.
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>>563848009
go back in time and play doorman before the buffs
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>>563848009
Silver
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>>563848009
sinclair, holliday, vyper
low pickrate heroes that almost nobody plays well
vyper is busted as fuck. while being a competent sinclair and holliday are noteworthy because they're weird characters, vyper is notable because when she has a good game she completely fucking rapes at all stages and becomes server admin
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>>563847813
>"gunfernus"
>boundless spirit
>EE
>juggernaut
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>>563848236
Sinclair isnt even hard to play you just turn them into a bunny and stab them, but somehow people have decided that this melee assassin is actually a spirit caster
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>>563848376
B-but what if you steal a spirit nuke ult but you don't have any items required to make it a true spirit nuke!!!!
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>>563848376
I don't understand the punch build
>disable that makes the enemy move faster
>by the time you charge up a heavy they're in another postal code
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>>563848376
truly an oracle
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>>563848009
Bebop, Holiday, Viscous, Sinclair.
>>563848148
Lol no. Silver is only shat on in /dlg/ and even then it's because memes. Even in middle of the pack ranks where newbs aren't bitching about wolf and eternus niggers aren't pretending she's OP she's not seen as under powered at all really.
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>>563848487
ur slow items sir
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>>563848697
Laasti!
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>>563848697
lmao
yeah okay
trying this shit
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>>563848474
then you just let it loose after you've heavy meleed them for 3/4ths of their health!
>>563848487
yeah if only there was a 3200 item you could buy that triggers a slow when you're in close range that you'd want to buy as a melee guy. sadly, I don't think such a thing exists...
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>>563848697
Echo shard bunny is the funniest shit ever, please keep doing this stuff.
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>>563797945
this isn't a leak, stop following sloptubers, they're literally making shit up for views, this was a fanart new hero design, nothing more
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what the actual heck was this match making
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>Play for multiple hours
>Miserable 1 sided matches one way or another
>Loss streaks often
>Started playing 1-2 games a day
>Winning more consistently
>Higher quality games
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>>563849062
that Yamato got two leavers the game prior, this was his consolation game
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>>563848697
outskilled
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>>563849062
>Shitelo Yamato
>Buying Dispel
Probably a smurf
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>>563848990
anon remember the last time people said that
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>>563849251
rocket jump gnome any day now...
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>>563848837
>>563848487
Your melee charge?
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>>563849251
I distinctly remember the seething and copium of people saying it was some randos furry OC lol
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>>563848524
bebop is good doe
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>>563849365
Yeah but people don't know that gun bop is good yet even though it just won FPSL Night Shift.
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>>563848697
echo shard bunny is the funniest build in the game but 90% of players that try it don't do any damage. I don't understand what it is. I can only guess it's the lack of shadowweave + hunters aura since a lot of people get point blank instead of HA.
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I will now play Dynamo.
https://gamebanana.com/mods/669828
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>>563849251
I was fully prepared to dismiss Rem but I believed cause I wanted the game to have a shortstack
Then he turned out to be a child...
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>>563849062
Can you be my gf?
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>>563848697
>hunter's aura + backstabber
huh...
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>>563848815
yeah try it, it will be epic!
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>>563849251
we had VO and kit leaks with rem, not a (hideous) art leak
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>>563847038
Gun paradox is okay at best. The thing that truly holds her gun back isn't even burst fire; it's her fucking bullet velocity.
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>>563849589
dont you already have ivy?
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>>563847490
This
You get op actives and abuse stalker mark to make your early game strong, your late game is guaranteed by piss easy passive stacking. Anyone pretending drifter is weaker than silver is just dishonest, all she has is bola and slamfire.
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>>563849919
when the fuck was the voice leaked?
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>>563848524
Even shitters are figuring out that Silver isn't that dangerous
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>>563849694
he should get brs too. stalker applies it for free.
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>>563849967
>having trouble with her velocity when it's the same as wraith, billy and ivy's, and 2x faster than warden's
how
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>I'll queue standard after I win one(1) brawl game
>7 losses in a row
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Is Paige just made for farming MVP?
I haven't felt threatened by her or felt her carrying at any point in any game
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>>563850753
>get reported for griefing in broool
>get sent to sekret low prio
I had casual toggled too these niggas literally just sat behind me two rounds in a row so I sat behind them and they got raped just as hard after bitching at me for being pushed up. One of them had LoL in their name so I'm geussing it's those retards that take ARAM seriously and just want you to poke all game instead of BROOOOL.
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>>563849919
kit got leaked around thanksgiving, VO got leaked a few weeks before the update itself
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>>563850670
>character that has an escape ability and thus can afford to get close
>character that thrives in close quarters
>character with high stam and an escape ability and thus can afford to get close
paradoxes more limited ability to escape / pressure up close make her more afflicted by bullet velocity than those characters
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>>563850893
LMAOOOOO
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>>563850893
cackled like a retard
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>>563850915
yep
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>>563850893
based lurker
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>>563845417
Whenever I go up against smurf/one trick Hollidays it's a nightmare whether we win or lose so I'm happy the hero is in the dumpster and hope she stays there.
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Is Graves job just being a lane janny?
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>>563852406
Yeah you're a lane janny on a timer until you become a late game carry but you can also turn team fights or take free walkers if no one can defend with your ult before that point.
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>>563852406
>Enemy team doing Urn
>Crash wave
>Ult on top of a nearby building
>Go to Urn fight
I just wish her gun wasn't so damn boring, otherwise I'd play her more.
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LMAO!!! BRO ACTUALLY DIED AS DOORMAN??!??!?

BRO ACTUALLY DIED TO THE SILVER AS THE DOORMAN?!!?!?

YOOOOOO I'M DYING LMAOOOOOOO
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kino
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>>563812694
My mom was the same but it's because she's somehow even more soaked in antisemitism than me
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wheres the ugly troon that will blow me?
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>>563853035
it's not bad
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>>563812694
>She said they were really pushy and she almost caved
Explains why I'm cut, my Mom's sweet but a pushover.
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>>563853035
>can't handle geist
literally just ignore the character???
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>gun bebop cannot lose a 1v1
>getting a hook pickoff is an insta fight win
>tanky as all fuck
worst hero in the game btw
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>>563853139
eskay?
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>>563853165
I'm sorry but she just makes street brool unfun. I'd ban paradox too if I could.
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Why does Vindicta wear clothes if she doesn't feel cold
>It would be distracting
Okay then why doesn't she wear shoes
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>>563853209
in what world does gun bebop win a 1v1 against

>mirage
>infernus
>geist
>venator
>abrams
>billy
>wraith
>mina
>drifter
>callico
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what do I do if going in and dying next to the enemies doesn't work as victor
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>>563853035
why do shiv and bebop have autism in your screenshot
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I just won 10 games in a row and went from archon 1 to archon 2
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>40+ minutes of the two worst players on our team defending each others stupid fucking decisions
i think i heard more words in these last 40 minutes than i have in over 200 hours on Deadlock, and all of them were dogshit
i'm genuinely fucking boggled how two people can feed 22 kills and blame the rest of the team that they themselves fed 22 kills
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>>563819792
You as a teammate can shoot the fuck out of the person she ropes, doorman has to basically play retarded to make the reset on kill work
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>>563853550
Nta but
>mirage
Mirage gets outdps'd before he can nuke
>infernus
Infernus autowins if fed, autoloses if bebop has the slightest lead
>geist
Geist wins
>venator
Just don't be near walls lmao (venator autoloses if he went gun build)
>abrams
Abrams wins
>billy
Same as infernus
>wraith
Same as infernus
>mina
Mina gets outdps'd to 10hp then bats away
>drifter
Same as infernus
>calico
Same as mina
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>>563853917
So it isn't just me that can't promote even after chain winning games?
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>>563853917
get ready to get matched up with the absolute dumbest, drooling pack of complete fucking Seeker 1 retards on your team very, very soon
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>>563822852
Tf2 is still fun though, I'm glad it's alive
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>>563854125
>>Mirage gets outdps'd before he can nuke
>thinks Mark is why mirage is the strongest 1v1er
didnt even need to read the rest of your post, based seekerGOD
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>>563854125
>venator autoloses if he went gun build
As opposed to... his spirit damage bear trap build?
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>>563854413
scarab got nerfed and gun bebop autobuys toxic
>>563854494
yeeess
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>>563854615
the #1 gunbop goes straight bullet damage
which i feel is weird but from very limited anecdotal testing it DOES feel pretty good relative to hybrid
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>>563835496
Until you start being fucking cancer incarnate for the other team, just use doors as an escape tool
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Is it shooting soup at people
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>>563835682
REM NO!
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>>563854205
>>563853917
The game knows when you get carried and dont deserve to rank up
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>>563837948
He's still fun, even if he is just a liability
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>>563855038
Why doesn't Sinclair's singularity show up as an iridescent lavender like every other ult.
It's caught me off guard before because I hear the blackhole go off and assume it's my Dynamo and get sucked in
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>>563855531
I really wish the sounds were different or Sinclair himself said "Black Hole" or something so I could recognize if it's me or the enemy team getting fucked.
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>>563855256
souls
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>>563853328
She wears a skirt while flying anon, it's meant to be distracting.
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>>563855256
it uses souls as ammo I think
so that's soul goop being fired as bullets
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its the weekday and in the afternoon HOW ARE PEOPLE THIS SHIT AT THE GAME
I thought you no life losers were good at this game
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>>563853328
If Vinny was lore accurate she'd be a naked twelve year old covered in burnmarkings.
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Milkman when
Firefighter when
Paperboy when
Chef when
Potion mixing scientist when
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Firefighter and chef sound cool
paperboy is a meme though
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>>563856459
>Potion mixing scientist when
ain't warden an alchemist
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>>563856459
after the 9/11 suicide bomber and the rabbi
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>>563856459
>Milkman when
>Firefighter when
>Paperboy when
All just doorman in funny outfits trying out different powers,
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>>563855002
>0 counterspells against bombbop
ritualistGAWD...
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>>563857161
That's an Oracle Lobby.
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>>563855002
your slowing hex?
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your howing sex
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>>563857342
everything below eternus 6 is just Initiate in denial
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>>563857113
>the Taxman has begun his audit
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kelvin is already the firefighter stand in
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NA bwos when does class end I want to play the normal mode.
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I won't accept a chef character unless they're chinese
wonton
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They aren't actually adding swimsuit skins are they
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>>563857715
only for paradox
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walkers are too easy to backdoor
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>>563857715
only for mina
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Fix the retared ass Geist beam already for fucks sake. Goes through every wall and has the range of the whole map.
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>Do nothing the entire game
>Win because I have Dynamo and Venator on my team
Thats enough deadlock for the day.
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>>563857715
Only for Rem
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Why did paradox ask Patron to stop 9/11
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>>563856459
doorman
viscous
holliday
shiv
warden

as skins, of course
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>matchmaking expects me to carry
>as holiday
please just give me even games
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>>563858480
i dont know why people say holliday is one of the hardest characters to play when viscous requires so much more skill and has a much more difficult rollout than she does
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>get holliday on team
>win anyway because the enemy had silver
LOL
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>>563857715
Banana hammock Abrams confirmed
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Replace Holliday's barrel with Zac's Q. She's got a lasso
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How did i do?
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I think it's first time I see almost 100k difference
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the baxtuh society has yo numbah
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i love him
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yay another dynamo game where he does 1000 damage with two kinetic pulses yayyyyyyy
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>>563859125
>no details on jacket
coal
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>>563858917
>seven lowest soul
>complain
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So is Spirit Abrams the way to go for him at the moment?
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>>563858084
>mina is obviously embarassed because she's out of place
>still tries to keep her facade up
my peanor...
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>clear wave
>hide inside building waiting for someone to lane janny
>kill him
>repeat
>this happens all game
i love sidelanes
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>>563859132
your spellbreaker?
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>>563859132
your spacebar?
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>>563859269
too many auto parry to play melee :)
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I don't want more heroes I want the visuals and voice work for the heroes we have finished, or at least brought up to the same level across the board.
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>>563859216
Yeah, he's getting his ass beat, the player doing the worst complaining makes total sense you sperg
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>>563859429
i mean, the game is close to releasing. next big update is going to be massive polish for everyone and some heroes to attract newfags
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>>563859429
Thanks for sharing
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im so sick of dynamo man he's actually ruining the game for me
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>>563858480
>grandpa guide my hand...
>kraKOW
>*200* damage
>wraith looks at me for 2 seconds
>3k damage
I was infact, not able to carry the game
I don't mean to be a me unga, team bunga poster but
fuck
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>>563858480
>>563859736
either pick a better character or stop complaining bitch ass nigga
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>>563859736
>Holliday
No offense but you can't complain about not being able to carry, and then not pick a carry hero.
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>>563859132
>>563859669
thirded

reminder that if you play dynamo, you are a boosted chimp who's three ranks too high
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>>563859921
I play her support. I don't queue expecting to carry
the shit thing is that my team was abysmal and matchmaking memed on me by putting me on a weak team and using me as a balance factor
>game ended with two eggs
>one on haze
>spirit burn rush shiv
>leech only green on haze
>7k damage celeste
>carpet rush miku
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>>563860210
Rank? I realized the lower ranks are gonna have a lot of growing pains due to deadlock being a brainlets first moba. His or her(lol) brain is overloaded as fuck on the shit we do subconsciously
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>>563860456
emissary
its too low of a rank for people to bother smurfing so I assume that its some sort of placement wild wasteland
most of my games feel fairly stable without things like a <10k damage player on both teams and a 50k networth difference. no idea why this match was so bad
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I miss the days when Doorman had a 47% wr and nobody played him.
All they have done is take options away from him and its killing my enthusiasm for the game. And he is still riddled with bugs.
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>>563853550
mirage, geist, abrams are the only ones winning this.
mirage and geist are top 5 heroes at least and overtuned as all hell. and abrams is close.
all the other characters lose badly or are return fire fodder
>calico
>drifter
>mina
ascendantGOD...
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please....
draft....
it should be easy to hot fix in....
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>>563861359
you vil get holliday (me) paradox while the enemy gets Dynamo Mirage Kelvin
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>>563861349
concession accepted
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>>563854125
can't mirage tornado and dodge the bomb damage and halve bebops gun output?
seems like mirage auto wins this interaction
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>>563861743
>gun bebop
>ever pressing bomb button
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>>563859515
>i mean, the game is close to releasing.
Game is still a buggy mess where Venator's shotgun/Doorman's cart can just randomly send you inside a wall, teams are randomly decided with no draft and the matchmaking is a mess.
Game is still an obvious mess that is at least a year or two from releasing, we might get a switch from alpha to beta this year at most.
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>>563859515
>game is close to releasing
>holliday doesnt even have a gun model
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>>563859216
>silver
>10k damage
>0 kills
AIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>563859515
>replay viewer doesn't work
>no skin system
>reused models and animations everywhere
>jungle creeps still unmodeled
>they intend to add hideout customization (still not in)
the game isn't close to releasing at all
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>>563858239
hmmm rem microbikini
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>>563859736
>cheat death instead of cursed relic
can you greedy niggers just play normal m1 carry if you want to play for yourself because every team only gets 2 supports and if those supports dont buy utility and help their team while the enemy supports do, then you have a much higher chance of losing
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Am I the only one who seeing increasing amount of holiday and silver? Not a good thing by the way, these bitches are so fucking useless
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>>563857715
i want to see a one-piece swimsuit on graves' anorexic frame.
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>>563859125
>and ma said this head was good for nothin
>joke's on you pal, people have tried to kill me since I was in the womb!
Billy is a tragic character
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I do not understand why do you play MOBA and refuse to do fucking objective, why not just fucking play overwatch?
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>>563862643
I buy curse all the time. I didn't in this game because what the fuck is curse going to do. it's a flexible counter/focus item that gives up personal power as a way to force multiply the team. look at the people on my team that game. there was nothing to multiply
cheat death is the counter item to the 0 counterplay instant death effects like wraith and mo ult (both present) and is an amazing item on holiday in general because of how good of an escape jump pad is
maybe I should've grabbed rescue beam (another great holliday item) but fuck, that game just felt hopeless
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>>563863037
Overwatch doesn't have Silver, retard.
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>get retarded rusnig subhuman vyper on my lane
>feeds
>blames me
>starts running down lanes
>is so shit he can't even throw properly
>win anyway
Rusnigs should not be allowed to interact with humans online.
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>>563863037
Some heroes are terrible at taking objectives, what the fuck is a silver or calico going to do against a walker? You do so little damage you're just better off holding q inbetween walker stomps.
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>>563863215
they are forced to use heavy melee spam, which luckily heavy melee has like a minimum threshold by default to making objective taking go at a ok speed.
which to be fair isn't something you should want to do but its there
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>>563862791
they are attractive women, silver is ok but holliday requires too much mechanical skill to just become not extremely detrimental existing on your team
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>>563861079
>>563861079
>>563861079
>>563861079



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