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>News
Black Cat character reveal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qn7a5F9oJwo [Open]

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Previously on /mrg/: >>563797990
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Thank fucking god
Everyone was full retard last thread
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Sex with Thor
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After playing Black Cat more she is the Support/DPS
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>mrg
>says tanks do too much damage
>says they're unkillable monster machines
>says dps need all that extra bonus hp, invul, blocks and crowd control on top of their damage

So mrg are just a bunch of delusional support trannies and dpsnigs
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>>563874858
i dont think shes very fun, shes just not my kind of character. and as a lot of people assumed, it seems like half her items are pointless - only the teleport and anti-movement fields are really useful in a team fight
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>>563874951
Always has been
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Beware of old man strength
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I should git gud on Psylocke
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>>563875005
>this might be hard to understand for a tanktard who has never played anyone with less than 500HP but mobile heroes with no sustain instantly die when they jump in

????????????????
Star lords pointless 25bhp isn't even needed and he survives just fine even before zingdingdong slapped it on.
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>>563874951
Its full of baiting retards and gluttonous bait eaters
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>>563874951
>tanktranny still dilating from last thread
lol
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tbqh I would've nerfed Tankpool's dmg resist before I nerfed his firerate but I guess this was a change targeted at aimgods
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>>563874951
you just know 90% of mrg instalocks dps and refuses to switch
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I instalock tank
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Tankfags: No GOATS meta was good actually we should do that in Marvel Rivals
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For me, it's Adam and just shooting people that charge you
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>>563875246
You're the one crying about tanks tearing you a new asshole.
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>>563875405
Anyone that bring up GOATS in these threads has absolutely no idea what GOATS was and why it functioned the way it did, or even what the lineups were like.
Yes, I'm talking about you.
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>>563875405
Unironically yes
GOATS meta was the only time OW was good post seasons 1 and 2
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>>563874858
Artist?

>>563826592
It's because people play her in the wrong comps or don't dive with the dive. You're supposed to dive with the divers and turn to melee mode to heal and deal damage with them.

>>563846525
The juggle was more necessary to secure kills.

>>563815420
A lot of support CCs already bypass the mechanic. >>563815260 Hulk's Radioactive Lockdown also bypasses the mechanic. The mechanic is shaping up to be mostly meaningless. It would've been more meaningful to remove CC from DPS. I rarely see the mechanic proc in my matches so far in the first place.

>>563826082
>>strategist abilities

Kek.

>>563825024
Hulk's Radioactive Lockdown also still works. It mostly affects attacks with displacement on them.
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>>563875469
But ultimately we're the suckers
Retards like him are exactly who the devs listen to when they roll out bullshit anti-CC patches. The game was rigged from the start.
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>haven't played in months
>deranked to plat
why does GuangGuang insist on having such insane rank decay? it doesn't even feel fun to destroy skill-less players on SG. I genuinely feel like I'm making people quit the game when I do this.
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Black Cat is fun but you're really going to have to get used to her lattice mechanic and lack of range without it.
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>>563874858
it feels like a character made for comp/premade. Her utility is crazy but she doesn't have the solo killing/carry potential that these other divers have. You really need to have someone else with you during the dive.
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>>563875664
>>563875696
>t. seething revisionist tankfags
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>>563875405
>>563875664
>>563875696
trying to parody tank players is pointless because whatever you come up with, tanktrannies will just agree
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>>563875405
GOATS has never even been close in Rivals though, I don't think I've ever seen a comp team use more than 2 tanks in higher ranks
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I keep hoping that it's not that bad when I ult with Angela but all I'm really doing is giving everyone I hit free Tenacity charge making it more difficult for my team to follow up. There's no point in ulting with her anymore unless it's a solo ult for someone running away at 100 hp.
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>>563875005
most people in this thread can't even hit c3, there's like a massive disconnect in assumptions
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>>563875967
3-0-3 has shown up a few time in Ignite but I wouldn't know how effective it has been overall
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>can't bind cat's fortune shortcuts to mouse wheel
they are so inconsistent with the keybindings, it's really annoying

another example is they specifically separated DD's two-step keybinds (X, ricochet), but didn't do the same for Magik (spin, imp), or Cat's (whip, pursuit)
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>>563875967
Fats has covered a few higher rank triple and quad tank games but idk if it's really a thing
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>Character just got a legendary mini pass skin last season
>I know let's give her another legendary mini pass skin
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>>563875256
>tbqh I would've nerfed Tankpool's dmg resist before I nerfed his firerate but I guess this was a change targeted at aimgods
Whenever any tank is even slightly a threat or slightly harder to kill the entire DPS and Strategist playerbase cries their eyes out on social media to the point Netease slams them with nerfs.
Emma is the perfect example of this, but even before that Netease removed Captain America's +5% damage teamup because Strategists and DPS players complained about Cap.

In these players eyes tanks are only there as target dummies to shoot at to farm Ult off, but they shouldn't be too hard to kill either because that's no fun, they need their easy kills. If a tank ever manages to kill them? Unacceptable, nerf them into the ground. No tank should ever be allowed to kill any DPS or Strategist in any circumstance.
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>>563875967
It's not viable for the entire convoy map but it is viable for spawn holding. It's been less and less viable since they buffed punisher though b/c puni+storm is the premier spawn hold breaker. It's pretty much based on how good the supports are at healing output in comparison to stuff like MK/Puni + storm
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>>563876267
He says this while he's fucking Felicia
That's why Peter doesn't deserve shit
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>luna is now a better hela than hela
BRAVO GUANGGUANG
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>>563875967
>GOATS has never even been close in Rivals though, I don't think I've ever seen a comp team use more than 2 tanks in higher ranks

No one ITT that brings up GOATS has no idea what GOATS is. All they know is the name and that it involved tripe tank and that's it. It's just a buzzword they throw out to try and sound smart when all it does is prove how ignorant they are.
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>>563876207
>All the replies to said announcement always going on about "brooo, give my wallet a break I can't keep up buying them all!"
You'd almost take pity on them. Almost.
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>>563876264
Emma fucked over other tanks the hardest.
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>>563876264
>Netease removed Captain America's +5% damage teamup because Strategists and DPS players complained about Cap
This was done after Cap dominated in tournament play and they didn't know how else to nerf him cause the reasons Cap does well in that environment have to do with inherent issues with his design.
Also release Emma was cancer and I say this as someone who likes her.
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>>563875967
>GOATS has never even been close
literally the opposite, it has always been close since day 1. the only thing preventing a GOATS meta is the fact that some dps still have enough poke burst damage to kill supports through 3 support comps.
redditors are CONSTANTLY begging for poke burst damage nerfs 24/7, if the devs listened to them and nerfed heroes like hela, GOATS would take over the ladder within a month
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>>563876156
forgot to mention
>shortcuts still have to be double tapped
>no protection, you can accidently triple tap and waste coin
they either have to go for 1 hero per season or extend the seasons, new characters keep being messy
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>>563876508
>Emma fucked over other tanks the hardest.
Not with her damage. Players kept crying about Emma well into last winter despite being one of the weakest tanks in the game. What players got annoyed by was getting grabbed and kicked into a wall, the cc part. Not because she was insanely broken and strong.
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>>563874814
>he thinks it’s going to be any different in this one
>>563876445
nah that’s hot
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>>563876264
>tanktranny unironically crying about emma nerfs as if she didn't completely dominate the game during her first season
zero self awareness lmao
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>>563876609
>it has always been close since day 1. the only thing preventing a GOATS meta is the fact that some dps still have enough poke burst damage to kill supports through 3 support comps.
You have no idea what GOATS was. Do you even know what some common GOATS hero lineups were? I bet you don't.
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>>563875697
>You're supposed to dive with the divers and turn to melee mode to heal and deal damage with them
this is exactly what loses you games lol. her transformation has terrible survivability and you'll be instantly killed, but what it does give her is complete immunity in 1v1 situations vs vanguards that is traditionally hopeless. think venom/cap/hulk randomly isolating you for a 1v1, most sups can only hope to run & survive but she can just A click and walk back to her team and the vanguard is just gaining nothing from the exchange. I didn't manage to play WF to celestial on my support alt but I've played enough to the point where I wouldn't play her if all of the below aren't met:
1. There is another hero with ult that combos wth mine. Hulk, Magik, Iron Fist, DD etc that heavily benefits from going gorilla mode and deems attention
2. I have an anchor healer with a fast invuln ult. Aka just don't play luna with her in duo setups. Invis cloak pref
3. I have at minimum 2 people who wants to play infront of me, one of which is a shield tank so I can get value bouncing my balls off everyone. This is where dive actually sucks with her, if I have angela and 2 dps who just run off and i'm stuck with a mag/strange, my value is so low. It's like luna, you want to be able to juice a lot of heros with your Line abilities
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>>563876746
Oh fuck you're right anon. Emma, Gambit, DD, Phoenix and shit are soooooo weeaaaaak and have been useless for months. How will you ever survive.
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Man I can't wait for PvE
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>you have no idea what GO All Tanks & Supports was
>no, it wasn't GOing All Tanks & Supports ackshually
you cannot make this shit up
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>>563876996
i hope the combat encounters in blood hunt have more rogue elements to them compared to just the upgrades like in zombies
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>anons go on about goats itt
>when if this game ran goats, it would be with adam-ultron-gambit to even be remotely similar
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>He actually doesn't know
KEK
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>no one wants to heal
>threaten to play Ultron
>inmeditely someone swaps to white woman heals
Every fucking time
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>>563877095
Well I'm kinda dubious especially after the shitshow that was Namor but maybe Blood Hunt will have been made with a little more thought. Not necessarily a good thing so we'll see what they deliver. At least it's supposed to be expanded somewhat.
All told what I'm really hoping for is a quick restart option in solo mode
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>>563877078
Why don't you explain to all of us ignorant people what GOATS was exactly. What heroes were picked. Why exactly was the lineup picked. Why did it work.
You're clearly the expert here, so tell us.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCRZL90sHSQ&rco=1
New MR theme
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>>563877890
Don't encourage even more Overwatch posting that autist will never stop
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>>563877890
>what GOATS was exactly.
go all tanks supports, as the name suggests

>What heroes were picked
all the strongest tanks and supports, with a focus on brig and what heroes were strongest with her because she was the strongest hero in the game by far as a support that could afk heal the entire team while being immune to both poke and dive

>Why exactly was the lineup picked
because dps were so much weaker tanks or supports, there was no reason to play them (they still are)

>Why did it work.
because tanks and supports were strong and dps were not

hope this helps.
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>>563876463
nah, luna needs to hit every shot of her dark & light ice volley, hela just need to tap you once for full dmg
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>>563876996
>Man I can't wait for PvE

When the ranked, PvP and balance is so cooked the best part of the game is a c-tier zombie mode.
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i'd much rather they gave us another 18v18 map instead of a half baked PVE mode. Doubly so if the same fucking characters from last time make up most of the playable roster
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>>563878704
It's gonna be vampires this time :)
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>>563878848
>i'd much rather they gave us another 18v18 map instead of a half baked PVE mode
I want both to be quite honest with you
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Are the pros playing on a different patch? I'm watching EMEA preseason right now and I see no sign of CC protection despite Rogue being played on both teams
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>>563878848
This but instead of PvE mode I'll sacrifice every Domination map
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>zombies
>vampires
brood are 100% coming next
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>>563878342
>all the strongest tanks and supports
LMFAO you are beyond fucking retarded. No need to read the rest. There were specific heroes picked for very specific reasons and very specific synergies which all correlated with the tanks themselves.

I could write and essay to educate you, but why bother you'll just plug your ears because you're an ignorant close-minded toddler. Tanks have high EHP, so picking heroes like Lucio and Brig were very effective because while their healing output was low this wasn't an issue for tanks since they had mitigation, sustain and high hp pools. You would gain much much less value or even be a downright detriment if you ran that with 3 dps instead.
That's 1 out of 10 reasons for why these healers and heroes were picked and I haven't even started to touch on the specific tank heroes yet.

Please don't open your mouth on this subject ever again.
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>rogue is unplayable
>vanguard is an underpowered role
yeah ok lol
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>>563879052
based
fuck domination maps
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>>563878990
both are coming, theyve already said as much. the problem is, theyre reworking that awful Resource Rumble map/mode they pulled from the game because people hated it into an 18v18 of some sort. I'd much rather just have a fresh stage without the bullshit
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>>563879119
0/8
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>>563878365
you dont need to have crosshair over the character to hit them on luna
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>>563879201
see >>563879050
They don't seem to be playing on the Rogue killer patch
There is unnerfed tankpool too
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>There are people who actually think Felicia is OP

Lol she's a gimmicky melee character who gets little to no over shield meanwhile Winter Soldier gets over shield out the ass simply by using his abilities and they don't even have to hit. She has little range outside of her lattice abilities which of course require lattice which means no lattice or too little and you get locked out of half her abilities. She's also a team-oriented dps like Storm so she benefits a lot from comms and without comms you can't benefit as much from her. I just can't see her being overpowered or anything. In Order for melee dps to be overpowered they usually need low ttk or high mobility. Her mobility is decent but its not like she's Spider-Man. You can also use her shift to move around but I feel like the cool down is a little too long and if you do that she'll have a harder time securing kills.
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>>563879356
there was some roguefag bitching for 3 threads about how his wife is unclickable and the most underpowered hero in the game, and the general sentiment is that vanguard is somehow not a good role and eclipsed by dps and supports lol
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You can’t pick her up and solo teams while never falling below 70% health, that means she’s shit and vanguard is the most oppressed role
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>>563879201
>clowncar """""pro""""" scene
>being so stupid you think any pro team would completely change which heroes they play, especially after praticing specific lineups and strats

>>563879050
>Are the pros playing on a different patch? I'm watching EMEA preseason right now and I see no sign of CC protection despite Rogue being played on both teams
Could be, would the the intelligent move from Netease to not screw over pro matches with a complete new patch the day before.
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>>563879515
they are better than you so their opinions matter and yours don't
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>>563879459
>and the general sentiment is that vanguard is somehow not a good role and eclipsed by dps and supports lol
That part is true though
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>>563876693
>Not with her damage.

What do you mean? Vanilla Emma was one of the hardest hitting tanks in the game and she even had a combo with her E and diamond form where you hit them with e and diamond form grab them to melee them while breaking the crystal
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My most played character is Peni Parker (the worst tank (the worst role)) so I’m a bigger victim than ANYONE here and EVERYTHING I say is law
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>>563879459
>eclipsed by dps and supports lol

Das rite supportoid dpsnig bro, we the dps and support trannies are the oppressed ones.
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>>563879201
they use old patch for tournament, retard
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>>563879601
>they are better than you so their opinions matter and yours don't
Anyone that ever says something like this is always the dumbest and most trash person around. Literal unthinking sheep.
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>>563878704
She couldn't afford real nuts?
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>>563879825
Being a pedophile means nobody takes your opinion seriously tho
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>>563874951
Put the fucking Mag in the bag Tankslave.
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>>563879119
>tanks have high EHP, so picking heroes like Lucio and Brig were very effective because while their healing output was low this wasn't an issue for tanks since they had mitigation, sustain and high hp pools. You would gain much much less value or even be a downright detriment if you ran that with 3 dps instead.
you're literally just agreeing with me. yes, tanks and supports were better than dps when paired with other tanks and supports, no shit? in other words, they were better in general. and still are.
there's a reason why they "solved" GOATS with role queue instead of just nerfing the most common GOATS comp heroes, and why if you play any of the meme arcade modes with no tank limits today you'll still get rolled by comps with no dps if you have any dps.
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>>563874951
And people wonder why tanks are so bad in this game. I just had an Elsa player getting mad when I killed her as Hulk calling Hulk OP
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>>563879967
mediocre shitter who has to cope about his own shortcomings by turning a blind eye to the achievements of his superiors. maybe if you humbled yourself you'd get better.
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i rather enjoy the new bucky, a return to form of sorts. but idk i think his damage might be a hair too weak now that hes not a CC bot
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>>563879385
can you people stop making up what you think people say?
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I don't like Black Cat's voice acting. This has been a problem with a lot of newer characters but she sounds like she's reading a script. Not really getting tune with the character or the world.
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>>563880183
because she's their wife
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>>563880163
>you're literally just agreeing with me. yes, tanks and supports were better than dps when paired with other tanks and supports, no shit?
You literally did not understand a single word that was said. You literally couldn't even formulate points before beyond drooling on the table and repeating the word "strong". I told you to stop posting, you're a completely clueless retard the kind I despite more than anything in the world. Kill yourself please and make the world a better place, thanks. Last (you)
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I have not played since they released deadpool. What the fuck did I miss? WHY IS EVERYTHING ON FIRE?! WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON WITH VANGUARDS!!!??
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>/mrg/ thinks goats was played because tanks did high damage or something
Go to /owg/ and ask about goats
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>>563880412
>uh oh, you just BTFO me and I have no argument, looks like I'll have to insult you without acknowledging any of what you said instead
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>>563880412
This is like your third meltdown today
It's time to log off lil bro
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>>563880451
>WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON WITH VANGUARDS!!!??
Same as ever nobody wants to play them
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>>563880451
Everything is a fuck
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>>563880567
Nobody in /owg/ plays the game they just ritualpost and jerk off
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Playing Peni this patch and Im noticing having 4 webs makes her hold so much stronger. Mentally, I still think about her having 3 webs but with 4 you can place your nest even further back or even use that extra web to cut off spots where enemies would like to jump over the extended web to get an angle. Her gun shooting faster bullets makes it slightly easier to target fliers which is nice too plus you can web up the entire point without gaps easily which can be useful on Shin Shibuya or the vampire map where she was already decently strong.
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player who threw my game last night went from One Above All to Celestial III in his past 2 days of playing. This fucking retard was probably raging on every team because he's a OTP magik who plays starlord when magik gets banned.

I think its safe to say that this dude is his own enemy, because it made zero sense that he took all his anger out on deranking crazily because he didnt know how to play around his team or ask people to fill so he could play magik or starlord or whatever the hell he was good at.
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>>563880567
Goats wouldn't be an issue in MR. OW had lots of shielding so it became just pushing your shield bubble vs enemy shield bubble. This game has weak tank shielding.
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>>563880451
>WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON WITH VANGUARDS!!!??
the same thing that's always going on: trannies are intentionally picking the most boring unfun role in the game and then complaining that they're bored and not having fun, but instead of switching to a fun role, they're just complaining about how tanks aren't strong enough for some reason even though they are objectively the strongest heroes in the game by far
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>>563879116
They're already here. The Brood Queen was already in Season 6 with Deadpool getting impregnated by it.
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>>563880916
Most mentally stable Magik main
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ah i love when they introduce a new character and people hardlock it in comp
im sure there isnt an entire gamemode dedicated to this
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>>563879116
That seems very unlikely. Sentinels probably though.
>>563879825
Being a Peniphile makes everyone take you seriously.
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>>563876267
marywhore is a cuckqueen lmao,

meanwhile Peter and Felicia are doing their own thing together.
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>>563880292
There were people saying she was op before she even officially released.
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>>563880324
The Chinese don’t give a shit about VA quality. I think only the base roster has names worth mentioning to draw attention at first and everyone since then has been serviceable at best.
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>>563880409
>their fluffer
FTFY
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Rework Rocket to be up to modern standards.
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>>563880324
chinks can't do proper English and ok'd first pass as good enough
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>>563880451
Just some idiots claiming tanks are overpowered in Rivals, ignore them. They do this all the time.
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>>563880831
Hey just like /mrg/
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>>563881438
They would turn him into TF2's engineer complete with build menu and everything
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>psylocke lipstick spray
I will not buy. I will not buy.
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>>563881542
It's genuinely not
Like I know it's funny to go "nobody in this general plays the game" but owg is genuinely like 60-70% jerking off and ritual posting. Maybe more than that.
It may be pure retardation a lot of the time but people here do actually talk about the game.
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>>563881438
>>563881616
A turret for Rocket would be cool honestly. Makes more sense than Namor. Hell make it a healing turret if you want so he can run and gun more.
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>>563881780
If it wasn't for /mrg/ I would have nowhere to complain about my dumbass teammates, love you guys
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>>563881542
>Hey just like /mrg/

/mrg/ is schizo posting, gayfag posting and mentally ill people shitflinging
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>>563879826
so trve we wuz meta n shiet nigguh
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>>563879728
>Vanilla Emma was one of the hardest hitting tanks
Look how easily we forget about Strange
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>>563881780
>people here do actually talk about the game.
No they don't. The second someone tries it just turns into a back and forth of posters calling eachother retarded and never talking about the game.
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NEED BLACK CAT PVMPPPP
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>>563881740
It's clearly Felicia?
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The best part of this patch is that we're now 1 day closer to Devil Dinosaur.
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>>563882907
We're one day closer to a hero with 4 pages of abilities.
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>>563880409
I always say Spiderman and I don't intend to stop.
The hyphen is wrong.
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Magik is Russian
She says the n-word all the time
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>>563883068
you dont need to be russian to do that
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So can someone tell me why the fuck people are being retards with CC thing
99% of the time if you get cc twice in row you just end up fucking dead, who gives a fuck if it's not as strong now?2
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where is the hoe ass nigga who claimed Black Cat would pull 150k today? bring your BUM ASS to the front so we can clown the DOG SHIT outta you.
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So what if we made a tank that can't tank, can't defend their team, can't crowd control, can barely do any damage, is useless against fliers and is just an annoying fly buzzing around.
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Soon
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okay, ngl I kinda like the new flying dash. 2 changes I would like since, I prefer this more offensive Torch than the melee weave dodge tank. if the dash reloaded while the skill is active, it would be nice. also make his meteor slam 10 seconds again.
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>>563883068
Wife material
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I'm testing new anti CC
rogue E counts as 3 CCs for whatever reason.
wolverine ult counts as 4 lmao.
They fill 30% Tenacity so fast, but the full CC immunity is very hard to fill.
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>>563883276
tanktards do, because massive amounts of braindead CC is one of the things that guarantees they always have an advantage over DPS in every engagement
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>>563883349
His shield only blocking 350 and regeneration slowly is bizarre compared to Stranges shield
>but it reflects!
Yeah in a random fucking direction, that part has the same end-result as a normal block 90% of the time.
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>>563880324
>he's still playing with the English dub
your own fault to be honest familia.
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>>563883349
>the singular character in all of fiction most known for his shield
>second worst shield ability in the game
>gave him an Ultimate with team benefits but made him a dive tank that's constantly away from the team only using Ult to stall point
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>>563874951
Of course , they bitch about Rogue the most despite being the most situational tank. Ironically enough, out of the hero shooters and class based shooters I've played in the past. Rivals tanks feel like the most shit tanks to play.
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>>563882907
Going by current trend, DD will probably be the first release with Cyclops (dps) being the mid-season character.
Then it's Hood time.
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>>563884251
>I..am Powerlessman
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>tankpool damage output is still good
>ult still function as it did
>he has never had any CC effects
I am a-ok
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Someone answer this question of mine from last thread?
>>563798723
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I'm praying that this was just a design choice and that Disney didn't take notice and call them to cut all the sexual stuff.
If the next lewd outfits, especially bikinis, are all covered up, what are the odds the game starts losing money hard?
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>>563882279
Strange required a team-up for the most part. Emma never needed a team-up to melt.
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>>563884915
you not buying a skin because its "covered up" doesnt mean all the normalfags wont
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>>563884743
It's probably you.
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>>563884743
Adam and Ultron needs to play aggressively and pressure enemies. Ultron in particular. If you're not shooting the backline, shooting approaching flankers, peeling, shooting down flying enemies, etc. constantly you're not playing Ultron right.
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>>563884743
A good chunk of support players will soft throw a match, if their duo support goes ultron/adam/deadpool. Then there’s the fact a lot of players still can’t play around cover, and if they are all playing in a tight formation it’s just over
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>>563884464
True
>>563883068
That’s why we love her
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>>563884763
If they gave her a different haircut, that would be a good skin
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>>563885118
>and if they are all playing in a tight formation it’s just over

Shouldn't you play close with ultron drones?
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>>563884915
I think you're overreacting
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>>563885037
and now look at her because someone dared challenge the Strange + Mag meta
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>>563884743
It really depends on the team comp
If they aren’t playing together Ultron’s value goes down from a healing standpoint.
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>>563881438
Left click replaced by his right click heal balls. His gun is now on his right click and now has a cooldown. If you activate it, for the next 6 seconds his right click shoots lasers in a similar pattern/damage fall off to his left click today, except they travel through allies to heal and dmg enemies. Healing is comparable to his orbs. Respawn beacon is removed. He now gains 'credits' whenever he deals damage (not healing) to enemy heros. He can store a max of 500 credits and he can pay 200 credits to give everyone on his team 50 overshield, 400 credits for a respawn beacon (30 sec cd starts after the existing beacon despawns), or 500 credits for 25% ult charge. His beacon is no longer a deployable that can be destroyed and instantly grants the maximum overshield value to rocket on cast. While his ult is in effect raccoon's gun is active for free.
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>melee attack
>dash
>ranged attack that steals some shit
>ult that lets you zip around and kill
okay this doesn't look too ba-
>two attacks have variant forms
>...and whole built-in shop mechanic like its deadlock where you have to memorize the location and effect of a dozen different situational tools
>all while managing the cost and playing an economy minigame as you already do your in-game responsibilities
man my brain is too small for this shit
I just want to point and shoot
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>>563885485
There are many point and shoot characters available
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>>563885485
her shop abilities are all pretty much useless
she's just BP without the instakill combo, don't bother
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>>563883349
I'm pretty sure overtime cap is about to become one of the most obnoxious things to exist after the CC changes. This guy was held down by the roster's improved ability to lock him down and kill him. Stalling cart is a completely broken mechanic
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>>563885485
You just get coins to spam whip anyway
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>>563882907
and one day closer to Carol! Season 10!
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>Play Ultron
>Watch over the progression of the match as the enemy pick more and more counter picks
>See the DPSes swap to Hela/Phoenix/Punisher
>See a tank swap to Angela
>See a support swap to Luna or Ultron
I have to be playing Ultron right, right?
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>>563885324
You should, but you can’t face tank the damage without thinking with ultron heals
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>>563885324
Not him but yesish. Obviously depends. Flankers still gonna flank but they shouldn't be expecting many heals anyway, that's why they have movement tools. Despite having a gazillion mile long beam for an attack, Ultron works best in brawl comps. But in order to work, brawl comps have to play smart until the brawl starts, and that means not approaching in a way that MK can farm stats off of
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>>563885714
>all these failed counters when they just need to pick Hulk/Thing
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>>563885568
They're situational.
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>>563885037
>Emma never needed a team-up to melt.
Emma was good for exactly 1 season and then they start to gut her harder and harder every patch until she is one of the worst.
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Remove tenacity
Rework Rogue
Make Black Cat’s shop RNG

I just saved this season
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It hasnt even been a day and already Ive gotten a few matches where nobody on my team picks Felicia.
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>>563885930
>Make Black Cat’s shop RNG

Horrible.
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>>563883458
The thing's ground slam counts as 4 CC.
That's probably it. All the problematic CCs that add too many micro CCs
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>>563885714
If you're winnin'

I'm gonna share a secret I think most people know deep down but don't dare speak aloud: if the whole team switches to counterpick you and you're personally getting FUCKED but your team wins the fight overall, you're probably a big reason and you should keep doing it even if you're 1-8. If you're winning the teamfights don't change SHIT until it stops working

If you're not winning fights though, the right way to play Ultron is to swap off of Ultron
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>>563883458
Full Tenacity 100% immunity doesn't really matter because the attacks that actually need CC to function get thrown off just by 30%.
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>enemy is running 4 high mobility divers who never group together
>my team? 3 crowd control DPS
>if I point out how incredibly stupid this is to my team, they get pissy
>match ends, we lose, and the 3 DPS end up with the most deaths
So many midwits play this game, god damn
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I just witnessed a teammate go full retard and ban namor instead of literally anyone else and when I asked he just said he chose based on what our team was playing because we had a spide rman
Guess what?
the enemy team went full dive and we couldn't do anything about it

I cant even believe people are this retarded because you could probably ban LITERALLY ANYONE ELSE psylocke, punisher, starlord, daredevil
and this dude banned the guy i was hovering because we had a spiderman on our team

I never ban dive unless I see my team composed of a champ venom, champ spiderman because then I think its warrented for their sake to bomb dive a team into submission.
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Holy fuck they're actually reverting the tenacity changes already
Zhiyong finally did something right

https://x.com/z1g3d/status/2045262155163861168
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>>563886035
Her entire theme is luck, her kit plays fine without the extra abilities, and no character deserves 6 extra abilities in top a regular kit
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>>563886318
ban anti-dive*
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>>563886413
It should be Blade doing that, not Twink Parker.
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>>563886413
the fuck you mean, the chinks have bent over to reddit many times before, and no it's not "right" to kill the game like this
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>>563886030
she's difficult to play
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>>563886030
More for me
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>>563886318
If you think Namor is the only anti dive you're a shitter, I'm afraid
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>>563886714
she's not, she's just bad
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Elsa status??? Is she washed?
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>>563885653
>muh cart stall
this hasnt been a thing since like S0 faggot retard
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>hmmmmmmmmmmm our teammate is hovering namor?
>let me ban it for our spiderman
seriously who the fuck does this shit
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>>563886976
it's been a thing for every season in high levels/comp and you're just too bad to take advantage of it. Even minor shit like dying on cart as a dps can be the diff between getting an additional full fight.
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Hot take but I think Wanda is actually the best anti-Spiderman, not Namor.
Theoretically Namor is better but you'd need god-tier aim, and if your aim is that good you might as well be anyone and it wont really matter.
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>>563886982
never trust the ban suggestions of dive dps players they're the dumbest shits in the game
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>>563887083
>faggot retard thinks cap can stall
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>>563887083
No he’s right. It’s not been a thing since S2. Thor alone will flatten any Cap trying to stall in 2 seconds.
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>>563887083
Only Venom can stall now.

Cap jumping around isn't doing anything. Hell concentrated damage/cc can catch and kill him through even his Ult.
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>>563887198
>>563887226
>>563887561
AIIIEEEE won't somebody PLEASE buff my vanguard that's borderline pick/ban with 90% presence in games between the 2 best teams in the world, that's really healthy for the game
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>opening a portal on black cat requires holding F, dragging your mouse, pressing F, finding a wall that doesn't arbitrarily cuck you, and pressing m1
what a fucking trash heap of a character
it's the little things like this that remind you of how this game will never be as polished as OW
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>>563886413
Kek, I barely ever see the Tenacity mechanic proc. I've only seen it like 2 to 3 times.
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>>563885567
Yeah but it would be nice to be allowed to play a new character once in a while
Phoenix is the only one in recent memory that can work with my 2 brain cells
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oh and also cat's buy menu has the same problem as the emote wheel in that, on PC, moving your mouse 1 pixel is enough to select an option
fucking crazy how not only has this gone a year and a half unfixed, but they added a NEW menu with the same problem
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>>563887113
You just have to hit one right click with namor to kill spidey. And that hitbox is fat as fuck. You really just need average aim
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Black Cat is a dps for comms and high level play. It's no wonder I've been in several lobbies where people don't even instalock her.
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Oh my god bro, its going to be another season where you have to ban x character so people cant int with it on your team.
Unreal that retards like this have quickplay to throw but they still do it in comp.
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Reminder that if your avg kd isnt at least over 3.0, you belong on support!
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>>563887113
She works until Spiderman starts targeting Wanda because she can't phase the pull combo. Better to just be Namor especially in higher ranks. Not because he actly counters Spiderman, but because he deters him by proxy. If Spiderman takes your focus away from the rest of the team and makes you actively hunt him like Wanda has to, Spidey won.
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>>563888024
>she can't phase the pull combo.
She can.
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>>563887880
i have no idea why they gave these items number keys, even going as far as giving them 3 configurable options, but didn't realize that the items should just be selectable without opening the menu via 1-6

>>563888014
the real int here is playing luna fox as duo heals. if the other team was playing a real support duo you'd just lose the first fight for free and get snowballed on
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>>563888014
Ill never understand why brand new characters are available day 1 of release
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>>563887974
Black Cat is a dps for losing. She will not see any sort of high level play unless she's buffed, mark my words.
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>>563888132
Believe what you want dude
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>>563888205
It's a combination of two factors:
>new characters are the primary thing attracting new and returning players and putting eyes on the game
>devs want as many people as possible playing comp because it's the mode where EOMM is most effective
Not having the new character available in the mode you push everyone towards playing kills hype. Overwatch used to keep new characters out of comp too but they stopped doing it for the same reasons.
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>>563875405
GOATS meta really mindbroke you and Ziyong didn't it? It's just not going to happen in this game. Overwatch didn't have wolverine, it didn't have percent damage on half the roster, didn't have small hitbox characters that can push and pull you all over the place. You don't realize how easy it is to counter a GOATS team because you haven't needed to, because it's unplayable.
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lol and he disconnected
i really cant tell what he was expecting being intentionally retarded
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>>563888202
wait this is exactly how it works, i can just use 1-6 to grab the item i want, wtf are people complaining about
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>>563888205
-available in comp*
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>>563887694
What the ruck does this have to do with stalling retard?
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>>563887709
>it's the little things like this that remind you of how this game will never be as polished as OW

This would never have happened because Chinese devs can't into basic UX. Their games always have an extra layer or two of clunkiness to them.
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>>563888023
Sometimes I imagine that I'm in the Marvel Rivals world and everything's realistic. So many characters would have their pussy lips slipping out all the time lol
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>>563888523
GOATS mindbroke everyone and almost killed the game dude
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LOL THE BLACK CAT PLAYER WAS A PSYLOCKE MAIN WHO GOT TARGET BANNED
THIS RETARD DOESNT HIDE HIS PROFILE AND THROWS A TANTRUM WHEN HE CANT PLAY THE ONLY CHARACTER HE KNOWS
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH
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>>563886951
I've had multiple games where she's not banned and no one plays her
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I want to get the black cat sexo skin
but if she gets a swimsuit in a month I'll regret it bigly
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>>563887709
Yeah it’s really fucking annoying. I’ve just been spamming the wall hacks instead. Less effort and instant value. What do I need a teleport for anyway, I just wall run and double jump to my destination.
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>>563875405
>Tankfags: No GOATS meta was good actually we should do that in Marvel Rivals

You idiots keep saying this but this can't happpen in Rivals simply because tanks in this game are fat low damage dps, not tanks.
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>>563888609
i need you Jen!
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>>563888503
Well I take that back. I get it now. The only real negative I see is the fact that messes with comp's integrity. But with 6 damn ban slots I guess the players could just "fix" any balance problem themselves.
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>>563886951
>Elsa status??? Is she washed?
Despite being OP, because she's a boring literal who she was quickly forgotten. Same fate awaits White Fox. Then Black Cat.
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>>563888205
CASH MOTHER FUCKING MONEY, GWEILO.
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>>563889035
Big Gamma Milkers
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>>563889035
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If only they made an official discord server where people like ESLgyian can live blog about their Silver games to people who give a fuck
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Healers really shut down Black Cat's kill potential
>Duh all healers do that
Sine she specifically has to spend money for every potent attack, heals are not only undoing her damage, but wasting her resources and forcing her to leave engagements.
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>>563889840
this
another day elbrowngian whining about supports or psylocke or whatever the fuck
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I just love talking about the matches I have on here because teh amtches i have are really fucking retarded. Its hilarious sometimes. rivals players are probably the least intelligent players Ive ever interacted with in a game.
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>>563890228
>>563889840
Shut up
You will give eltroongian sama the respect he deserves
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>>563890237
you should just troon out because you post like an annoying woman ngl
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>57 second estimated queue
>actual queue is 4+ minutes

I think I can pretty much start playing another game with how dead competitive is
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I'm too brainless to play Black cat. She's just black panther with worse neutral and better ult?
And the fuck relics even do? seems like half of these have no use on real matches.
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I’ve been making a lot of she hulks with grok including some nudes
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>>563890795
Ask grok to fill out some job applications for you.
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>>563890913
blew that AI slopper the FUCK out
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>>563886951
Elsa was treated horribly. She should and could have been an interesting CnD style character along with her brother and they just phoned it in as usual. Genuinely tragic.
>>563885363
I think his concern is warranted.
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>>563889519
we can go Jen for Jen right now!
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>>563891176
>Elsa was treated horribly. She should and could have been an interesting CnD style character along with her brother and they just phoned it in as usual. Genuinely tragic.

It's even more tragic that the titular bloodstone isn't even part of her kit and she's just some ADHD dash spam character.
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>>563884915
People hand waved it when it happened to SG's panda outfit and the fuss over Rogue's wedding outfit changes died the same week it happened. Gooners don't stand for anything so this is what you earned.
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>>563890548
>And the fuck relics even do? seems like half of these have no use on real matches.
they don't do anything for the most part. she literally doesn't deal enough damage to kill anyone and none of them actually help with that.
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>>563887974
Every character in this game is for comms. Comms are easily the most broken thing you can do to win, it's just unfortunate because who actually wants to talk to these mouthbreathing trannies
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>>563886193
The problem with that is if you're going 1-8 the whole team will say you're throwing and start crashing out and someone will swap to widow.
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>>563891753
>Gooners don't stand for anything
gooners aren't allowed to stand for anything. devs spend all day browsing reddit but if you speak up against female censorship on reddit you get downvoted and banned.
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wanda bikini skin when?
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>>563892069
soon I hope
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>>563890548
>And the fuck relics even do? seems like half of these have no use on real matches.

the only ones worth caring about are
>flame orb, gives 20m aoe team wallhack and reveal
>fish, aoe slow grounding & movement ability disable
>helm, 2s invis +60% movespeed
>ring, portal through surfaces
Mainly the orb and fish. Helm and ring and interchangeable depending on what you need to flank, escape or chase.
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>>563883549
The teamup is trash as well because the hp is still too low
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Is Black Cat overtuned?
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>>563892216
lol
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I don't understand Black Cat's ult. What's the point of instant dash given the range it has?
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>>563892216
>Is Black Cat overtuned?
She's the kind of hero that will be busted in the hands of one tricks, but useless everywhere else.
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>>563886413
It only works on broken dps anyways I think its bugged on tanks it never procs
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>>563892363
>I don't understand Black Cat's ult. What's the point of instant dash given the range it has?

It marks all enemies on the map, you can even see the real loki.
You have instant dash with borderline infinite range, then a followup that does 30+20% max hp as damage.
You can keep dashing to new enemies.
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>>563883549
>You are now imagining how annoying it would be if Cap's shield was as strong as Strange's shield, while also Sprinting at you and reflecting projectiles
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>>563892216
She feels like she was a tank but someone realized bp as a tank would be cancer.everything but the fish trash
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>>563886037
So Monster Hulk still can juggle but it's inconsistent. You almost won't juggle twice.
Rogue is fucked, she guarantees to trigger Tenacity alone.
Thing is kinda fucked. Ground slam counts as 4 CC, so don't do slam+ult combo because it triggers Tenacity.
Wolverine is also fucked. His ult count as 4 CC, you must not use it if they got CC before hand. Otherwise you'll miss your ult. Kidnap+ult is exactly 6 CC, enough to trigger Tenacity.
Widow's CC counts as 4 as well but nobody play this character.

Other characters are probably fine with current system.
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>new character gets teased
>”overtuned and broken, they’re the strongest character ever added!”
>new character gets released
>”shit and useless, only one tricks will make them usable!”
Why does this (or the reverse) happen with EVERY fucking character
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>>563893037
Thing was trash even on release.
Devil Dinosaur is a tank and male, so he'll probably suffer the same fate.
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>>563886413
lmao
You can tell who replied but didn't bother clicking the link
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Remember when niggas thought Black Cat would be a 7ft tall werecat? LOL
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>>563893037
No melee release has been good they need to stop this shit
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I've been playing QP on and off all afternoon, and half the matches I'm in no one wants to play her. I've never seen a character come out that wasn't instalocked every match on both sides for at least a week
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>>563893037
because this game is obsessed with adding character types that are broken on a fundamental level and will never be balanced (melee and flying)
black cat was going to be either broken or useless, no in between
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SUPER SOLDIER SERUM
VANGUARD CAT CONFIRMED
LOL imagine
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>>563893240
>Daredevil wasn't good
>Deadpool wasn't good
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>>563893196
A werecat would've been more interesting than what we got.
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>they delayed colossus for some retarded thots
fucking chinks
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>>563893389
I think he means "good" as in "a good addition to the game" which neither of those were
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>>563893507
Her ultimate is so uninspired.
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>>563893254
melee will ALWAYS filter most players
they'll say melee is braindead because no aim requirement, try the character, get no value, and run back to their poke hero
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this patch feels awful to play
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>Why does Black Cat has some many things in her kit
Because you people applauded Deadpool's kit's which told them we want more of this for future characters
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>>563893359
>melee
>broken

Imagine being this fucking retarded. Imagine thinking being able to kill at any range is worse than melee.
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>>563892216
She can double jump multiple times, since multiple abilities resets it, which is fun. But if it wasn’t for her grapple, her econ would be really bad. I have a hard time placing her, since she seems extremely feast or famine. I personally don’t think she’s worth the effort, over a more consistent kit in DD
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>>563893573
>they'll say melee is braindead because no aim requirement
it is?
the fact that BC deals no damage has nothing to do with how hard she is to play (which is not at all)
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Thanos had like 12 abilities in NetEase's MOBA, so get ready for the Infinity Stones weapon wheel. lol
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>>563893389
?you consider Deadpool a melee release?
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>play strat
>watch enemy cat just climb walls on drop on my head and 2 shot me all game
>ping her all the time
>no one else shoots her or even looks up
game sux
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>>563893660
that's exactly my point retard
melee characters are at an inherent disadvantage against ranged characters, so they need extremely high damage, extremely high mobility, or both to compensate, which leads to them being broken if they have it or useless if they don't
flying heroes are the same but in reverse, they are at inherent advantage against grounded heroes so they need less damage or less mobility, but if they have that, then they're useless, so they're always unbalanced
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>>563893556
DD is good because he fucks over Invis
Deadpool is good because he’s fun, and also a great tank
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>>563893254
Its dumb to make her play like bp because we been conditioned heavily on some rat in the backline, she has less escape than bp and the dash is her only mobility.No wonder they made white fox into a sustain tank they can't make an honest kit anymore
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>Gaymor main saying melee is broken and braindead
KEKADOODLEDOO
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>>563893956
meds
now
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>>563891091
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Omg ultron feels like a god right now
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trans fox players are probably the most retarded players in the game
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>>563893738
so did the Hulkbuster armor.
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I tend to do well with weird characters like Ultron, Peni, and Rogue, so Black Cat seems up my alley.

This is just personal preference for controller players but I would suggest turning off "Hold button for luck". A simple button press to swap into her claw whip stance just feels better in my opinion
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>>563893254
Why do y'all forgot Rogue so quickly? I was playing her 9/10 games the night and day she reelased
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>>563894347
didnt ask
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Still surprised Tankpool gets the attack speed buff instead of Duelpool
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Will they nerf Black Cat next season?
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>>563894347
how are you playing her? swiss army assassin? I'm having trouble securing kills
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>>563893738
>>563894321
when i was making these a few weeks ago, i had a feeling we would start getting super stacked kits in Rivals eventually. the writing is on the wall. lol
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>>563894478
tanks must always be better than dps in every way
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I'm calling it now, Luna will enable triple support even more than mantis now.
>Better fall off
>Slightly more damage
>More HP
>Self heal
>Better ult
>Better Peel
Actually kinda silly
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>>563888023
stats don't tell the whole story bimbo, now get your vag outta my face
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>>563894569
she doesn't have damage boost which is the main reason why trip supp mantis is so strong
luna herself is really good now though
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>>563891521
I almost forgot they completely neglected the Bloodstone. How do you NOT do something with the characters namesake? That’s fucking absurd
>>563893135
Made me laugh kek
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>>563894569
Anon, Hela has 15% anchor bonus, so her m1 does 80,5 dmg.
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>>563894569
Luna has been C tier for multiple seasons now, she’s not enabling anything except soft throwers
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>>563894505
Haven't actually tried in a match yet, I've been messing around in the practice range getting a feel of her kit. I noticed you can't bunny hop on walls like with Daredevil, but given her double jump and dash you can probably work around that. Which speaking of Daredevil, I've set her sensitivity/controller settings to the custom one I have for him, which feels right (but could later change). I'll have to mess around with crosshairs and see what other people will use later
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>>563894347
Rogue doesn't have some strange objective, outside of her role she needs to accomplish, to get value out of her the way Ultron and Peni do.
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>go to arcade as usual on new hero day
>faggots trying to ban the new hero
>ironman faggots tryharding into melee hero
>Still lose to players who just started playing a new hero
>rage quits and calls his team shit


This the type of "people" who play this game
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>>563893527
gooners are the ones paying the bills sadly…
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Why is that every time I play this game, regardless of whether its Quickplay or Competitive that I have to deal with bad actors? And why is that every single time I do deal with bad actors, they're always on Ultron, Jeff, or White Fox?
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>>563893527
He was additionally delayed for a dinosaur and a jabroni spic because colossus is boring.
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does jen have green pubes
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>>563895085
idk but if you post more Raven we can get to the bottom of this
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>>563895630
Who’s jen
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so now what?
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>>563895728
she hulk
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People keep complaining that Black Cat has a billion abilities and saying launch heroes should get updates but not only do I think its fine for there to be more simple heroes, I think its necessary for the game's survival.

Imagine someone turning on the game and trying to learb positioning and ult timing and shit but every character is like Cat and Deadpool. Its good we have Rocket and SG and even middle of the road ones like Bucky/IM.
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>>563895085
Robin is so fucking lucky bros…
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>>563876487
So outta curiosity as I never played a hero shooter prior to Rivals what actually is the deal with GOATS
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>>563895630
yes

>>563895728
She-Hulk, her name is Jennifer Walters.
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for me it's black kingpin from 2003 daredevil

RIP my nigga
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>>563895957
thats not Starfire
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>>563889091
>Black Cat
>Literally who
I can tell you don't read comics
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ETA on clone characters? I know the latest date until they cross that line is 2027 for the spiderverse movie but is there any that might release sooner?
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>>563895924
>saying launch heroes should get updates
literally only retards say this. the launch heroes are fine, the new heroes are objectively bad design.
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>struggling to break 100k
Some A lister huh?
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>>563895924
>2 sorcerer supreme title holders in the roster
>Black Cat has more spells than both of them combined
It's silly
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>>563890237
I think rivals players are across the board genuinely dumber than Splatoon players and that game is aimed at children. I don't understand it.
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>>563896069
Fuck comics. He's never even played a Spiderman videogame
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>>563895924
there's a difference between simple heroes like Wanda and Dagger, and a useless hero like Widow.

>>563896058
wrong Robin. Starfire is for Dick and Raven is for Damian.
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>>563895924
Quite the opposite the shitter population would drop immediately and then the game quality would go up like deadlock.Giving retards free wins IS the biggest problem this game has
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>>563896029
>>563878342
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>>563896164
colossus wouldve broken 200k
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>>563896109
Wanda Widow and Rocket are bad design. Widow is just trash but playing Wanda and Rocket will make you worse at the game.
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>>563896069
nobody reads comics, nigga. this is a famous fact.

>>563896164
WHERE is the HOE ASS NIGGA who claimed Black Cat would pull 150k today? bring your BUM ASS to the front so we can CLOWN the DOG SHIT outta you!
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>>563893940
Deadpool was GREAT because he tricked the instalockers into picking tank. Deadpool's strongest version should always be whatever role people avoid playing (so tank forever)
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>>563896069
Anon it's 2026, NOBODY reads comics.
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>>563896197
Im meh on that. I understand the disappointment with that tho.
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>>563879052
This is the real answer, Domination blows it’s just Resource Rumble with a loading screen
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>>563896267
If braindead SGs are getting free wins in your games you're a shitter
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>>563896258
>Raven is for Damian.
wrong
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>>563896423
He is the most fun tank by far. To the point where I am only willing to fill tank, if he’s not banned or picked
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>>563896267
>deadlock
you mean the game that's dying before it's even released?
how are you guys enjoying your non-binary characters and giant black voids under skirts btw?
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>No one is playing Black Cat
>White Fox is still being instalocked
Black Cat flopped. NetEase still don't get. Nobody wants DPS heroes.
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>>563894956
She's weird because of cooldown management
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>>563896197
>spells
They're doohickeys, not spells. They're stolen doodads from the Vault. Making off with shit beyond her ken and lucking into it working for her is like a key component of Black Cat stories

What spells does Wanda have besides
A) *makes a bucket fall on your head so you can't see*
B) generic energy blast
C) accidently do an ethnic cleansing

>>563896421
>>563896424
I don't disagree but the only other context we'd be talking a out is the MCU and I'd rather have the hulk stomp my balls off then have the roster be just MCU synergy every month
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Is today a bad day to try ranked?
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People are saying Hulk's jump charge no longer resets on soft CC. Anyone who's played yet today confirm? I would accept the deaths of the other tanks like Thing and Rogue and Angela if Hulk's finally gotten this basic QOL and it's not just a bug.
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>>563896978
Today is fine. Avoid Saturdays and Sundays
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>>563897104
man he's just stepping right on Tony's arm
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>phoenix is now the best DPS in the game for the 4th time after Elsa's nerfs
lol
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>>563886413
I don’t even know how to tell if it’s building up on me.
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>>563897292
>phoenix
What is this S3? Punisher has taken over
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>>563896258
Well yeah Window shouldn't have been a sniper in the first place, anyway
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>>563896069
And that is a good thing
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>>563896714
>one heals on melee,teleport through walls and has ranged auto attacks
>one has to get gold to do damage, has 0 sustain
and 0 ranged attacks


hmmmm
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>>563893383
I don’t know why anyone thought she’d be a vanguard
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>>563896672
>Game numbers go down after launch! How can this happen!

This is the case with 99% of games and 100% of games that aren't indie 'hidden gems' some youtuber props up a year after launch I dunno why people make a big deal of it. If your game has six digits of simultaneous players at any given time you are far beyond doing okay be it Rivals or OW or this or whatever else
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>>563897854
She's got the teleport "dash" thing
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The CC system actually isn't that bad.
I've barely seen the white border today.
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>>563896058
>>563896258
>>563896594
>he gets to have both and more
holy kino…
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>>563896672
>has the same players as rivals each day
>not even released to the public yet

toc tock netease
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>>563896714
shes a hero brawler hero stuck in a pokeslop game
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>>563878342
>>563896029
GOATS was actually picked because:
>ana pocket could make tanks quasi invincible
>ana ult could make tanks quasi invincible + let them charge their ults faster
>lucio speed let tanks rush into effective range fast, negating their weaknesses
>entire team was unkillable super fast tanks that rushed you down and won the round in one push by snowballing ults
>to add insult to injury, brig was unkillable and could stun throug shields
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>>563896594
>high test batGOD laying down the law
Damn now i wanna read this
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>>563896853
I wish the block tackle did just a little bit more
damage
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What's the point of this shit?
Rivals is not MOBA. WHY DOES AN ATTACK COST MONEY?? Why can't we get something simple?
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>>563898462
chinks ran out of ideas for new kits almost immediately after release
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>>563898462
Elsa was pretty straightforward
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>>563898462
Not a single one of those are an attack
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>>563898462
Oh man they are so gonna reuse this feature in the future
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>>563896969
> They're doohickeys, not spells.
You’re right yes but they’re functionally the same in effect, the only difference being they at least had the sense to balance it out with the buy system instead of giving her on the fly moves but it’s still pretty silly conceptually
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If you spam the wall hacks camera as black cat she just ends up being daredevil 2.0. She’s imposing on my goats gimmick.
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Hopefully Hulk gets a skin in Season 8.
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>>563895824
Reminds me of a Gamestop store.
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>>563898094
It's more of an attack than something to increase her mobility and it requires lattice.
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Ok I’ve refined my black cat rework kit. Would you have preferred this to what we got to not?

Passive 1 - enemies can't hear her footsteps.

Passive 2 - any enemy in her presence has a 50% chance of their crits failing.

Passive 3 - whichever enemy lands the final hit on her gets jinxed meaning for the next 10 seconds they have a 50% chance of any of their attacks doing 50% less damage.

Passive 4 - whoever has ace on the enemy team is worth more money than their allies.

M1 - standard melee attack. steals money from people.

M2 - ranged whip attack. cost money to use and has a chance to crit no matter where you strike the enemy. doesn't steal money from people.

Shift - dash attack. 2 charges. pierces through enemies. steals money through those she passes through. also inflicts jinx.

E - whip that steals money from the enemy.

R - the little strange portal but make it function like portals from the portal games. Costs money.

F - gamble move. press it to spend some money and get a random passive buff for 10 seconds. Buffs include wall hacks to herself and surrounding allies, CC immunity to herself and surrounding allies, invisibility to herself, speed boost to herself and surrounding allies, damage boost to herself and surrounding allies, damage resist to herself and surrounding allies, ult charge boost to herself and surrounding allies, the potential to gain extra coins, or the risk of gaining absolutely nothing. buffs can't be stacked. if you use the ability while a buff is active it just gets replaced by the new one. also have it grant her a small amount of bonus health.

Ult - any enemies in her line of sight may get hit with a random debuff for a couple of seconds, and the severity of the debuff is up to chance.

Space - no cooldown double jump and linear wall climb/hang.

Keeps the theme of bad luck and stealing money but doesn't result in her having a bloated lot. Her niche will basically be stealing money to buff herself and allies.
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Why are all marvel rivals agp porn addicts?
Is the game really that bad to the point 99% of it's community is just gooner who don't even play the game but masturbate or go look for friends in that social map?
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>Black Cat has rng
Even Blizzard wouldn't add this to Overwatch
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>>563901027
loud minority
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>>563901182
She has RNG on her potentially cheese free money tool. No one says you HAVE to gamble.

Really, I'd say a healing item would have rounded out the kit better. But then she really might be too strong.
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budd root she hulk best she hulk
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how does white foxes new team up ability even work? is it an AOE or something? i activated it in a fight more than once but didnt notice it doing anything
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>>563895824
Lotta Magik funkos in stock. They must not sell very well…
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>>563901027
The average marvel rivals player is a bronze spiderman swinging into walls
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Im no comic book expert but since when does Black Cat buy magical artifacts from a shop with gold to use for her heists? I thought she didn't even have any special powers besides superhuman acrobatics
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>>563901381
Just a green bimbo
Boring
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>>563901551
big green bimbo*
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The coin shop mechanic thing pleases my autism but the rest of cats kit looks boring should I reinstall or not
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>>563901468
have you seen the jeff funkos back there
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>>563895824
This might be my favorite image of all time. Why cant she be real... Every time she's real she's a lesbian.
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>>563901551
So She hulk?
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>>563901381
I like any art that remembers tits have nipples
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>>563897592
*the best DPS that isn't boosted by fagneto
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>>563901551
Thank god Guangguang listens to the gooners instead of faggots like you.

Game might be falling apart at the seams, but at least the sexo is good.
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>>563901527
I’m not a comic book expert either but why does shooting icicles at people heal them and how come Magneto can be affected by psychic abilities
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The team ups we have now are all ass. Who the fuck is black cat? Why does my goat cap get a super shield from black cat and not his buddy Ironman? Why don’t deadpool and wolv have a team up? Why won’t spider and black cat? Why won’t Thor and Loki?
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>>563901027
That's who they advertise and pander to so that's the crowd that naturally stays with and plays the game
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is poke actually dead now

i havent seen hela in ages, bucky lacks the stopping power against brooldive and i see magik, spidey, black banther and even iron f*st running down my healers and i cant do shit about it unless i literally hit every shot on them as they warp across my screen to get through their health bar and 1-2 backup health bars from magneto
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>>563902084
>Who the fuck is black cat?
Buddy everybody knows black cat. She's an A lister. We all definitely wanted her over other popular picks. I personally loved that Black Cat run where she um um she showed her ass while fucking peter but never committing to relationship. It was super cool, we all loved it and wanted more of her
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>>563902084
Because it's a video game, not an MCU movie.
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>>563902015
Really not the point I was arguing but if you want to be a pedantic ass that's on you
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>>563902015
The same reason Emma Frost has to reload her brain and Mantis has to fart on people to make them fall asleep.
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>>563901527
She's stealing the money at least, but yeah, they just needed some sort of resource to spend on the abilities. she's stolen magic items in the comics iirc, before so there's that

and actually has >Psionic ability to alter probability fields to cause bad luck toward others, as per Wikipedia. She's also had actual powers before
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>>563895924
>but not only do I think its fine for there to be more simple heroes
This game is easy as fuck if you have a lick of shooter experience. The only hard heroes right now is Spider-burden and I guess Black Cat now cause of her clunky inclusion alone. As soon you figure out the right upgrade path with Deadpool then its easy to grasp.
My only complaint is the one hero that I have an interest in sucks ass and I wish was more complex and or had a different kit to play.
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>>563902015
This might shock you but its a video game. Luna heals because Danny Koo has agp and fantasizes about being a heal slut bimbo
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>>563902015
What psychic ability is there even in this game? Just psylocke's stealth, as far as I can tell.
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Why is the West SO cucked when it comes to making attractive...not even just women, characters in general?
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>>563901510
This. People here have an extremely warped view of how competent the average player is.
>>563901527
She doesn’t, she alternated between having very vague and inconsistent bad luck powers and being just really agile and fast on her feet.
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>>563902879
I'm not going to lie, the Insomniac game design might actually work in this game/style
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>redditors are now claiming that they aren’t noticing the tenacity feature that much in game
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>>563902879
It starts with a J and rhymes with ooze.
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>>563902990
lol they skimped out on the fur but the suit itself looks cool.
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>Do worse in triple support as Ultron
>Do better in 2/2/2
>I'm only GM so I will keep getting triple support, bad supports, or bad tanks that don't know how to play with him
>Celestial and Eternity shows he's really good there
How the fuck do I get there as Ultron when my other supports or tanks are bad/don't use cover?
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>>563903058
Juice…
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>>563903073
Funny you bring that up, because in the first game DLC her suit doesn't have fur, but in Spider-Man 2's mission with the Wand of Watomb she has fur on her arms/legs
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>>563902015
Your examples aren’t even the same, that stuff is simple vidya logic, a better question would have been any of the other characters with nonsense in their kits that they don’t actually have anywhere else
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>>563901438
don’t post my wife here idiot
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>>563903190
I always knew V8 Splash was on some bullshit

>>563903202
I wonder what pushed that that change because it really looks like they realized that they needed to at least try to make her stand out
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>>563902990
It does look a lot better with curvier proportions.
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>they made Hulk's jump charge no longer get reset by being bumped
You are fucking joking. Holy shit. I forgive you for the retarded Tenacity thing NetEase. Get ready for this gamma dick.
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This patch has left a horrid taste in my mouth. I genuinely can't get over the fact that they let such a retarded, half-assed, and poorly thought out anti-CC system make it into the live game. I don't give a shit that this tenacity crap doesn't even proc often, it bothers me way more that this shit is so stupidly designed and someone in charge decided to approve it, because it's just so moronic and ineffective. Maybe I'm just autistic, but holy shit, if this is how they handle everything about this game behind the scenes things must be very bad back there.
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>>563875249
Post full body or stfu
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I legit just had a luna crash out and force our team to surrender because he died to frontline on like 2-3 occasions, people got tired of it, and he decided to crash out in VC when teammates were asking him why he kept dying that way. Celestial really is just an excercise in mental illness, you will lose so many matches because people cant do normal or basic things without shitting themselves.
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>>563875249
Felicia has big brown areolas, modder
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>>563903391
They always leave a bunch of shit outside the patch notes
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>>563901027
All hero shooters are like that. If you make a game with
>bright colors
>heckin wholesome diversitay
>pandering to people who otherwise hate gaming
...then having a game full of fags and sensitive little snowflakes is no accident.
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>>563903634
SOURCE?
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>>563902879
That suit was easily her worst design. But every women was so ugly in that game it made her look like the best thing ever.
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>111k
BLACK CAT WON
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>>563904135
Soon we'll be celebrating hitting a 50k peak
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>>563904314
Yeah, in two weeks
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Doreen Green enjoying a burger!
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>few games as ultron
>whenver we're losing team fights or the point people say the dps need to swap instead of me, even on 2-2-2
damn this ult change really changed peoples perception huh
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cap is so cool
i wish he wasnt fucking ass
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>no one picks cnd
>force fill cnd
>win the game
>4/6 wf player is complaining that we didnt need cnd
lol wat
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>>563903454
They can always make changes along the way.

>>563903391
>>563903676
How come they don't mention this shit in patch notes?
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>>563905103
>don't mention this shit in patch notes?
uhhhh shut up
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Black cat is so shit.
She's another opportunist character like Spiderman / BP
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>>563901374
She also has rng deciding if you headshot her or not.
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>>563902879
>cartoonist style vs realistic style
>bent over vs standing
Gee I wonder why one of these is more exaggerated than the other.
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>>563905523
Anon, you can do better. It doesn't even make sense.
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>>563905678
most obvious bate oat
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>>563905693
Read her passive.
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>>563900797
Too many passives, but I agree with getting rid of the shop and the no footsteps thing is a good idea (like Cav from R6)
>>563905103
>How come they don't mention this shit in patch notes?
Stealth buffs and stealth nerfs, to avoid triggering the reddit/tiktok seethe mob I would assume. It's weird though because they did a stealth nerf to IF autolock distance a few patches ago, and that wasn't something that would've caused redditors to flip out. What they choose to omit seems a bit arbitrary.
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>>563905103
I'm still not sure if it's a bug. It doesn't reset in practice mode but I'm still trying it out in matches. So much shit flies at you at once it's hard to tell what resets it.
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>>563905806
Ah I stand corrected
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agh
the game is so fucking shitty right now
I saw that the support stuns dont even proc the new change. They literally added an entire system that didnt address the actual problem. even shiteddit having a meltdown right now because of this and i dont blame them since its directly causing an entire role to be worse.
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>lower launch day peak than fucking Elsa Bloodstone and White Fox
KEKAROOOO
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Goddamn I just managed to finally climb back into Celestial II today, It was truly the most unapologetic experience I've had in this game yet. There were so many players who refused to fill despite being well versed in what we needed, throwing for petty reasons, and being complete assholes. This definitely in my opinion the worst experience I have ever had in Ranked. I even played with that retarded Youtuber Xotiacs a couple times and he was legit INTing on Black Cat.
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Do I need phD in economics to play Blackcat?
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>black cat is a flop
>next season won't have any girls I can ship
It's over
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>>563907252
No, just an inquenchable thirst for spider silk
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>>563907234
>playing ranked
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Comp is so bad that I even started friending all the Jeff OTPs just to know when they're playing or queueing and to avoid them in matchmaking.
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>>563907142
This game is cooked. Literally unironically got mogged by the overwatch update and zhiyong is actually ruining the game further instead of trying to improve it.
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>>563907546
The Overwatch update was fucking butt cheeks bro
The entire genera is dead until Paladins 2 comes out
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So is Black Cat the most coomer character they've added. Bent back, fat tits hanging in her idle pose?
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>tfw dont know how busted venom is this patch because i ban him every game
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>>563907252
lol no. In my experience her shop is extremely situational other than that it's jump in jump out

>>563907668
no probably Magik with one of her skins
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>B...but she's not a literal who! She's an extremely popular in demand A lister! Tons of people will definitely reinstall and come back for her! Everyone loves black cat because she was in a shit spiderman game so she's definitely uber popular!
The /mrg/ shill might be the most retarded faggot in existence. Watch he'll start to cope soon and say she flopped because she's dps and not because no one cares about fucking black cat outside of her being wank bait for peter and MJ
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Black Cat unironically plays better if you ignore her shop
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>>563907142
Elsa basically just rode on Deadpool and then ruined the game enough to drag the numbers down to their previous state. This is going to be the second worst .5 season in the game history in terms of players, but thankfully it will be the shortest one also. Hopefully they won't be retarded enough to lead next season with Moon fucking Girl.
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>>563907836
Don't her normal abilities use her currency too?
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>>563907906
yeah
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>>563907901
>it will be the shortest one also
??
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>>563907662
I'm not saying overwatch is good, maybe the genre in general is dying but i'm just saying the facts speaks for themselves.
Excluding console players and talking exclusively about PC, a very large, i'd even say the majority of players play overwatch through bnet. I've seen some people try to deny this idk why it's just a fact.
Yet somehow despite most players being on bnet, overwatch still unironically has a higher concurrent playerbase on steam than rivals. Not even the main platform and yet still has more players on it than rivals. That is a straight up mogging. Very embarrassing.
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black cat is a literal who btw
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>>563908125
Holy mother of kino………….
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>>563908125
>pussy lips
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS
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>>563907725
Solo venom isn't all that good, venom with another diver (not pillowfist) is BIS
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>>563907831
>flopped because she's dps
But that's objectively part of the reason, it's no coincidence that all of the worst seasons in this game were dps release seasons.
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>>563908183
Yeah she is. She's a dumb addition to the game. So was white fox. Elsa toofor that matter.
Releasing 3 literal whos in a row has done heavy damage to the game, people have lost so much interest.
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Veredict on Black Cat?
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I think the reality is that the new character every month gimmick is waning, people are tired of playing the same game. I've said it for months, the same characters are being played from Diamond to One Above All and it's really unfun and uninteresting. And quite frankly, you cant not play them. If I see Groot unbanned, I instalock him. If I see Cloak and Dagger unbanned, I instalock them. And their inability to nerf Gambit, Phoenix, and Elsa is truly fucking over any form of team collaberation in the ban phase, you maybe get like 2-3 teams every week who try to ban stuff based on what we're going to play.
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>>563908471
I knew rapid fire releasing dudes was gonna me unsunstainable
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>>563908418
Why can't they just release some fucking mutants? There's a billion of them and any single one would generate a lot of hype.
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>>563908450
Idk I need to see people play her without inting first
I think the first thing people gotta learn is that her item shop isn't a core part of her kit and you shouldn't be spamming items as much as you can
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>>563907780
Show me then.
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>>563908125
R.I.P
Too based for this gay world
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>>563908610
Next season or the one after
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>>563908610
Well Cyclops soon(ish) right
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>>563908610
Who fucking knows bro. We don't even have ghost rider yet like what the actual fuck are these chinks even thinking?
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>>563908471
It's only waning because people are exhausted of having to deal with bullshit power creeping characters throwing the entire game out of whack every one or two months.
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>>563908584
How were people supposed to know that they were going to load characters with insane kits? Things were so simple early on and I think that helped a lot but as time went on it's like they just forgot less is more.
I think Black Cat should have been a carbon copy of Black Panther in terms of gameplay, because loading her with all the other crap just made it extremely bloat. Daredevil is certainly the first post launch character to have a retardedly overtuned kit.
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/vIdgc6Ia7Gc
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Black Cat openly flirts with basically everyone but when she talks to Peter it's literally "fuck this noise, come rail me in a back alley"
Which is exactly what I wanted so no notes
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>>563908713
it's the dancer one in the mini BP pass. Or even the Hellfire Gala one coming up
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>>563908743
>ghost rider
The one that got a shitty Nic Cage movie? Lmao
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>>563908743
sorry china thinks skulls are cursed or some dumb shit
ghost rider never
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>>563909227
He's in multiple other netease games
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black cat doesn't seem to be very popular in my quick play lobbies. bloated dogshit doesn't seem to play well.
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>>563909190
>The one that got a shitty Nic Cage movie?
he's still the only Pre-MCU movie character to not be in the game (Howard the Duck doesn't count because shut up)
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>>563909227
not true btw
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>Angela's Ult is guaranteed Tenacity status every use
Didn't they say they were delaying this implementation from 7.0 launch to test it?
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Quick play is awful right now, just a bunch of white foxes not healing and Luna's not healing.
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You know what it really is?
Releasing two kits in a row that require mastery to get any fun out of.
Angela into Daredevil season also sucked.
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>>563909342
Nope. Been playing a while this evening and trying to use Cap's new team up. Got nothing.
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Is it true Black Cat's skin makes her tits less big? Her base is more booba?
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There's not way chinks aren't panicking at these player numbers. Are they banking on PvE to save the game or some shit?
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Ok so when I ult with BC is it just a dash to the enemy and then I try to normal attack them to death or am I missing an input?
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STILL WAITING FOR 150K FAGGOT.
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>>563909429
Yes, it's tenacity but it doesn't stop them from escaping bind and ear-rapes everyone with the procs.
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>>563909874
Anon doomposting is fun and all but don't be delusional
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they should just undue the ult changes because i havent noticed a single fucking difference
if anything it just made the game a slower piece of shit.
All they had to do was nerf support ult gen and force them to play defensively instead of having invis and cnd ults every 80 seconds.
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This feels like a beta test
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>>563909906
Ult again to do the 70+20%HP execute. It's like Bucky ult on steroids.
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>>563910016
>I haven't noticed a difference
>anyways here's three ways that the game is different
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>>563909514
I had a 1-10 Deadpool, duelist then healer
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>>563910236
When you get a healpool in pick up games you just know you're going to lose
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>>563908183
>>563907831
No valid rebuttal for this. It’s simply true. Sad, but true nonetheless.
>>563907456
Most women have that down pat thankfully.
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her ignite
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>>563908610
> and any single one would generate a lot of hype.
Not really. That said, there’s a lot of characters period who would be better than the shit they’re picking now.
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They gave us the wrong cat, this is why the game is dying
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>>563909190
The first movie was stupid dumb fun though. The second was pretty doodoo, with some fun moments here and there. Should still be in the game with how fun he could potentially be.
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What tips should I give strat mains trying out Cat? I just said dive with the team, but maybe I should say dive when the tank engages.
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>>563910151
they're still ulting just as much i feel
it just made everyone else worse

this is exactly why people are shitting on the latest update little bro, they keep nerfing everyone else to not adress like 5 characters.
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>>563908418
It's pretty obvious now that starting a season with a literal who is bad for the game. They tested this with Angela. She was a fun and unique addition to the game and even then it didn't fucking matter. So I have no idea why they're insisting on doing this again.
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>>563907831
>DPS
>DiveNigg
>Gimmicky shit that makes no sense for the character
Let's see Cyclops numbers next season
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that little faggot wont reply to me
because he doesnt have the balls to stand by his stupid ass point

they keep pushing out changes that affect everyone but dont atually address THE problem with the game.
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I’m not gonna reply to you either nigga how about that
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schizos in here
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>>563911527
Why would anyone reply to you nigga you can't even spell
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Cap still feels impossible right now, strategists cant fucking aim to heal worth a shit
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>>563911382
>Cyclops
Nuh-uh, get blue balled again nigger
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>>563888352
Absolute skill issue
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Man, this game kinda sucks. Dumb devs, awful community.
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>Tenacity system doesn't even proc that much
Apologise
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>Mfw my team runs triple heal
I'm losing it, /mrg/. They're like fucking anchors around my neck begging for a carry.
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DC collab when?
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>>563912574
0/3/3 is the only playable comp with these cc changes.
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>>563912365
I been playing Venom. It goes off 3-4 times per convoy match so far. This is a direct Venom buff because he really doesn't use CC at all but eats it constantly.
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black cat flopped. hopefully this is the final nail in the coffin for these overdesigned chinkslop heroes
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>>563910642
Batgirl is DC.
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>>563912626
Goddam I would whale out so hard. I've been asking for Nico, but honestly just as a stand in for the true goat goth witch.
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>>563912793
This is for 6th or 7th time making this post
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>>563912083
he's right tho
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>>563911046
>So I have no idea why they're insisting on doing this again.
Because the devs are terminally online and when the game initially launched they recieved tons of praise and approval for having more lesser known heroes on launch over others so they pivoted to promising more lesser known heroes to get online approval and now what we're seeing is the result of that too late into production to scrap. We're probably going to have put up with a whole year of literal who's
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deadpool players are borderline retarded. they play zero game sense crutch heroes with bloated kits and still seethe and bitch about everything.
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>People are still pretending Deadpool's kit is bloated
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>>563912365
It's still a very retarded system and completely arbitrary and nonsensical in how it's designed.
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>>563913835
It's three kits, man. Come on.
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When are they reworking Storm so she does more than just zaps and wind
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Quite literally no one is playing Black Cat in QP right now. I've bever seen a launch day where you could just stroll onto a character, no one is locking her. Was getting ignored part of their plan?
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>>563914035
Storm is fine. I'm confused why they keep changing her when she's been overpowered for two seasons now. Zhiyong is a retarded nigger.
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We were so close to saving the dive role, divebros...instead we got this weird caster mage bullshit with too many abilities.
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>>563914053
People are avoiding her because of the shop thing, I think.
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>>563914053
face it: she's dogshit
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>>563914053
She's just is not good. If there are any actual characters on screen she isn't allowed to play. Her normal are incredibly stubby which makes getting coins to make her playable near impossible. She functions and gets countered very similar to BP but with a TTK significantly lower.
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>>563914053
I've had one in literally every single game so far, and 2 in like half of my games.
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>>563912365
Most of CC in this game are mini boop, they could add 90% CC resistance and it wouldn't matter.
The current system doesn't do anything, except that CC cleanse that fucks up certain characters.
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>>563914053
>I've bever seen a launch day where you could just stroll onto a character
It happened to Blade and they let him suffer in mediocrity for fucking months. Sadly, another case of stupid nigger devs. Honestly though, I don't think Black Cat is bad, she's just over designed and that's naturally going to make people avoid playing her. The currency system is very unintuitive. If players need to consult a wiki because the hero information isn't descriptive enough, then you know you fucked up.
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>>563913947
>Three separate heroes have three kits
Sure it's bloated if you conflate every single Deadpool into one!
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>>563912880
She would be a DPS like Wanda and you know it.
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So are they just not going to nerf gambit, invis, cnd and let people play other healers in this game?
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>>563914723
And give up their cash cows? No way!
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>>563914723
they are just fundamentally flawed heroes and you have to accept they're going to rape the game for the entirety of its existence. Please see Ana and Kiriko for reference.
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Felicia is pretty fun. Not completely my playstyle, but I’m gonna put time into learning it now that I’m no longer a supportnigger

Anyways I got bored at work so I sketched Mistress Felicia again. I made a brush out of my new name tag and used it for some parts. I am still refining it, eventually I want to make a full painting of Her only using that brush.
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>>563914614
Deadpool has 3 kits. Deadpool is bloated.
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from release to throw pick in less than 24h
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>>563914837
Beta-friendly version :3
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>>563914837
>Gets punched in the face by Doc Ock while he simps for Aunt May
Mogged by a grandma, superior silver-haired woman.
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>>563912912
You can time phase to avoid the goht follow up. God forbid someone playing Wanda use even a percent of their brain power.
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>>563914621
I dont give two shits, I would main her no matter what. I'd even main her if she was patched out of existence like Rogue was this patch. My goth mage wife deserves the devotion.
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>>563914053
I'm noticing this as well, it's super fucking weird. I mean, I'm getting a few, but there are no insta-locks and you aren't consistently getting her in every game. White Fox is as unknown as a character can get in Marvel and she wasn't suffering from this issue. I'd understand it if Black Cat was a vanguard, but nope, she's the most popular role in the game.
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>>563914837
>>563915006
>NIGGERS would draw shit like this and then call AI "soulless"
kek, nice hands
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>looks at a pic
>but m-muh AI
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>>563914830
thats not true
its as simple as
- no more gambit ult healing
- no more invis shield spam, ult slow, and magneto/namor can kill through her shield cast
- revert cnd bubble and wall changes, add one less healing dodge to the ult

and the game is fixed.
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>>563915006
Not beating the /trash/ overlap allegations
>>563915414
>seething AI jeet
kek
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>>563915414
studio gilbili saar
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>>563914053
Doesn’t help that there are 5 other DPS niggers that do the same thing as her and there’s a big chance you’ll get at least two of those niggers on your team if you pick black cat, so you end up achieving nothing because your team can’t apply the pleasure it needs to create openings for dives and flanks
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>>563914837
these are really hot anon
looking forward to more Felicia
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>>563914053
I've seen quite a few? Weird
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>>563915414
I will admit that I am very much pro ai and hope it permanently fucks artist jobs for the rest of time. annoying faggots deserve it.

that said, what greater joy is there in learning and progressing in a skill or hobby? why would I let a fancy text predictor ruin that fun for me? i know it is shit, but I enjoy making it and I enjoy the process of learning.
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>>563915072
ill remember that you ass
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>>563914053
>DPS
>DiveNigg
>10 other Heroes do the same shit
>26 DPS
>only 13 Tanks
>only 12 Supports
Yeah, not shit, the chinks keep releasing heroes for a role that's over-saturated
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>>563916412
I genuinely don't get this shit. 2/2/2 is the average expected comp, and devs also discuss 2/1/3 as a valid popular option, so why the fuck are they releasing so many duelists? They've released way more duelists than other roles so far even after the initial disparity, there's already a shitload of them.
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>>563916702
dps as a role in the modern day hero shooter is essentially irrelevant. in both rivals and overwatch you could force players into 3-3 and very few people would actually notice the difference. part of me wonders if they're trying to push back on that by giving dps players more options but idk.
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>>563916702
Don't casuals like DPS roles?
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>>563915917
i never saw such virulent hatred for people who draw until AI hit the internet
I wonder why that is...
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>>563916985
because they are usually annoying faggots that will have a very loud autistic meltdown at the mere mention of ai?
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>>563916702
because dps gets all the kills and epic moments and mvps so retarded children flock to dps
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>>563917163
>he says in a thread where some seething pro-ai autist brought it up out of nowhere
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>>563917369
i honestly can't tell if I agree with you or not. to be clear, both sides can be incredibly insufferable faggots.
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>>563916985
People with no talent or creativity harbor anger towards others
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>>563914053
I honestly would've been fine if Black Cat was a dive tank, at least then her kit would actually be interactable, and her ass would be 2x larger. None of this wishy weird shop bullshit where you're possibly gonna use like 3 items at most.
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>>563912626
>>563914621
>>563915174
She will get her own game and it will be kino trust the plan
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>>563918139
If it hasn't happened by now...
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>>563914837
weird image
>>563915019
weird post
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>>563917638
That would've been top kino
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>>563911791
Based
>>563914035
Rework? Brother, you better not hold your breath on that front, and the same goes for anyone else hoping for the same.
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Cyclops should be a healer.
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>>563918807
*Vanguard
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>>563918807
>>563918860
Both
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Guys, what counters Cap? I fucking hate Steve.
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>>563916985
cause AI is anti-human. it is soulless and a net negative for humanity.
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WHERE is the HOE ASS NIGGA who claimed Black Cat would pull 150k today? bring your BUM ASS to the front so we can CLOWN the DOG SHIT outta you!
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Ive been spamming Mag to climb in ranked and its working but holy shit is it fucking boring
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>>563919089
>CC abilities
>headshots
>teamwork
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>No one is countering Iron Fist and Captain America
>Faggot ass Iron Man on my team banned by Peni pick
>Iron Man is the only one doing damage, 2nd DPS is a shit Phoenix later Storm with 19% accuracy
>Desperately trying to Strange/Thing the Cap/Fist dive but getting nowhere
>Dagger isn't healing me, and isn't helping as Cloak to push away at least Iron Fist

And of fucking course its a rank up match
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My black cat tips

1) don’t bother with the shop outside the occasional wall hacks and gambling during down time, or the occasional grounding on an annoying flier.
2) save ur dashes for stealing money, not for engaging and disengaging. Their cooldowns are long and you need a constant supply of money to dish out damage.
3) use your money steal whip as often as possible, and your dashes mid fight to maximise money output.
4) your goal is to use your enhanced claws as often as you can to get kills. They’re better than the pounce because they generate shields and are cheaper.
5) use the pounce against fliers or on the rare low health straggler.
6) never stop double jumping.
7) play her as a mid range brawler and diver mix, not exclusively as a diver.

Still haven’t quite got the hang of her ult though.
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>>563917638
You would have gotten a man faced whore if she were a tank. I never want another female tank ever again.

>>563919089
Thor. Just keep pushing him. Thing and Hulk work well too. Ironfist if you’re DPS. Healpool or White Fox if you’re support.
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>>563919241
FACTS!!!! BITCH ASS NIKKA WHERE DA FUCK YOU ATT!!!!!?????
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Is this the most flop hero release so far?
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>>563919794
please wait until Captain Marvel Releases
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>>563919794
It has nothing to do with the hero and everything to do with the current balancing
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>>563919421
She's too squishy to be a brawler, even with the bonus health.
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>>563919887
That wont be til 2038
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>>563919887
>please wait till they put a Goku function with a goonbait body in the game
she's gonna be a hit and you know it.
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>>563919421
thanks, this is the first character that hasn't clicked immediately for me
her floor and ceiling both seem pretty high
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>>563919089
iron fist
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>>563919909
It's both. The hero is definitely part of the problem.
I'm speaking purely objectively here but black cat is a shit character for this game. She's like one small step above literal who. She's like a D list spiderman specific character and she's also boring as fuck cause she has no real powers.
Putting her in the game at this point is just pure retardation.

You put in a shitty literal who tier boring character after multiple other boring literal whos at a time when the game's balance is the worst its been, it's just a recipe for disaster.
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>>563914053
>C lister
>Overwhelming for casuals because of being a dive dps and shop gimmick
>Not even strong
There's literally no reason to play her outside of coom and being a melee enthusiast
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>>563920142
>She's like one small step above literal who.
She's not A list but to put her that low on recognition is disingenuous
>No real powers
Legitimate bad luck powers, just saying.

You can't say she's a literal who when she's appeared in multiple cartoons and video games for the past 30 plus years
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am i the only person in the general who thinks cat is actually fun?
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>>563920251
STOP HAVING FUN
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>>563919520
As opposed to the man face giraffe body whore we currently have?
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>>563920142
you're right, but one-hundred Spider-Man glazers are about to pull up and SWEAR that Black Cat is a B-list character because she was in a handful of video games and some cartoons. meanwhile i'm watching normies react to her trailer going, "who is this? Marvel's Catwoman?"
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>>563920237
Look man i'm being as nice as i possibly can and as generous as i can when i say she's a small step above literal who.
She's literally just some dumb goon material that shows up in spiderman content once in a blue moon. That's it. That's all she is.
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>>563919520
>You would have gotten a man faced whore if she were a tank. I never want another female tank ever again.
THIS. At least she didn't get butchered like Emma and Rogue.
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>>563919916
Mid range brawler. That means standing beside or behind your tank and supporting their kills.
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>>563920251
She's fun she just weak
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>>563920251
I'm still trying to figure out how to play her, which may take me a while cause I don't play that many dive characters.
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>>563919421
>Still haven’t quite got the hang of her ult though.
I've noticed that after killing an enemy, sometimes I don't get the ability to jump to another enemy. Isn't BC supposed to be able to jump to a new enemy after defeating one?
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>>563920379
>Look man i'm being as nice as i possibly can
Which I appreciate, thank you for being civil even though we disagree.
>she's a small step above literal who.
And I cannot agree with this assessment given her exposure to modern audiences and the bump being Spidey related gives her.
>She's literally just some dumb goon material that shows up in spiderman content once in a blue moon. That's it. That's all she is.
I say this not to antagonize and no disrespect intended, but this is blatant casual ignorance.

I'm not saying she was a top pick for the game but it makes sense why shes here and she's not a literal who. That said, Im sure people are aching for Green Goblin, Carnage, and The Sinister Six
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>>563920251
I’m starting to enjoy her now that I’m it trying to use the shop that often
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>>563920768
nta but she's a nobody. I'm guessing you're in your 30s and you remember her being on the cartoon as a kid? But that was off the air like 10 years before most of the playerbase was born.

Every time someone tries to point out a literally who for this game, there's always someone crawling out of their cave to say "uhm actually there was a solo run for 13 issues, and also they were a side character on a 20 year old show" but here's the thing; Everyone is from something. Every character in this game had a run at some point, the whole reason they're in this game is because they were already a character before this. The point is, nobody paid attention or cared before. Pic related.
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Hold up the MR discord is based?
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Devil Dino won't even pull 75k at this rate. at least gooners are logging in tonight to role play the new goon bait in Time's Square. nobody's logging in for a dinosaur they've never heard of.
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>>563920767
I think the way it works is

You can dash to any enemy once and follow the dash with a claw strike
If you kill an enemy before her ult timer runs out, the timer resets

But it’s very clunky so I’m not 100%, o need to use it some more
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>>563921059
Black cat has an ongoing more often than not. If you're into spider-man, you know her. Remember those multi-million dollar insomniac games?

Meanwhile, Elsa Bloodstone is primarily known from an early 2000s non canon joke comic about a team of heroes no one's heard of
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>>563920768
That's just how i see it. I'm trying to be objective as i can cause i have no personal stock or investment here, like i like spiderman and enjoy spiderman content but i'm not a huge spiderman fan. My first exposure to black cat was probably the PS1 spiderman game where she's just some side character you meet for a few seconds. Over the years and further exposure i've had to her from comics, cartoons, games, etc is that she is simply marvel's version of catwoman except she's just... Worse.
At least with catwoman being a batman centric character they're both characters with no superpowers and are both doing what they can to get by in their shitty little city. Their dynamic is more interesting to me.
With black cat and spiderman, it's like she's mostly a normal human with no real superpowers and spiderman is superhuman. It also takes place in NY with tons of other super powered heroes. The petty thief act is just so much more boring there.
Peter also has MJ as his typical partner so her sexually taunting peter all the time comes off as different. Like the whole character just exists to sexually taunt peter and make him cheat on MJ which makes me dislike peter more.

She's such a small time character and to me she's a really shit one too.
Now think about gameplay in marvel rivals and literally what place does black cat serve? There's only two ways she could possibly have existed, either as a melee tank who would end up being shit like rogue, or another melee dps that will basically be black panther 2.0.
This character is just shit through and through. Dogshit choice to add her.
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>Black Cat gets more varied spellcasting than fucking Doctor Strange
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>>563919421
What the heck is enhanced claws? what is pounce
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>>563921774
and Scarlet Witch.
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>>563921586
>If you're into spider-man,
Notice the key words there. Also you should be more specific and say if you're into spider man comics because most spiderman fans don't read them and as such don't care about them
>muh insomniac
You used this cope before the season launched and lo and behold no one fucking cared enough to be hyped about her despite being in those games. Almost like gauging popularity based off of appearances in games is fucking stupid
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>>563921586
>If you're into
Stop there. That makes it a literally who. I said pic related but you didn't look at the pic, did you.
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>>563916985
The ultra rich want a world where their corporate slop completely drowns out everyone else in all forms of media and communication. They want a "culture" they can reshape by pushing a few buttons and that's exactly what their spambots are trying to do. Very few actual humans hate people for drawing.
>>563917163
>>563915917
This fucktard is an LLM or an Indian making literal pennies posting LLM slop.
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>>563921774
man imagine if strange was like dota 2's invoker and he had like 12 spells he could cycle through
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>>563921586
nta but i'm very secondary when it comes to spider-man (only watched the movies) and i didn't even know who black cat was until her involvement in rivals before remembering "oh yeah, she was in those spider-man games"
black cat is like a C/D lister at best and elsa bloodstone is a E/Z lister
if you ask literally anyone what spider-man character they want in this game, they'd say green goblin, miles or dock ock. i would've voted for green goblin myself
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>>563921879
>You used this cope before the season launched and lo and behold no one fucking cared enough to be hyped about her despite being in those games. Almost like gauging popularity based off of appearances in games is fucking stupid
TRVTH NVKE
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>>563921825
I don’t know the names of the moves. Enhanced claws are when you hold M2 and press M1. Pounce is when your hold M2 and press E.
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>>563922002
LITERALLY nobody would play him then. Plus they can't do anything as long as the portal exists although I'm woindering if Hood will be a portal Vanguard with guns
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>>563921774
>Playing as strange with multiple spells I can use to adapt to situations like grounding fliers, cleansing cc off myself or short range teleporting
But that would mean making a fun tank who has a shield and they cant fathom those two being on 1 hero.
And before angela and cap mains reply, I mean a team helping shield
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>>563921860
and Magik
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>>563922182
>LITERALLY nobody would play him then
I would play him
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>>563922183
>And before angela and cap mains reply, I mean a team helping shield
Ain't no way anyone maining those characters would consider their 'shield' as actual shields.
Crazy that captain america, THE shield guy of the marvel universe, doesn't even have a proper shield ability here.
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>>563922183
it's so weird because I was advocating for Strange to either have his E changed so that he gets multiple things he can do with it like Daredevil or Sue's Es on-cast or make his Portal one of a number of spell "incantations" he can pick that scale with his Dark Magic and have individual cooldowns.... and then they proceed to do EXACTLY this mechanic and give it to Black Cat of all characters
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damn. i guess that PUSSY who screenshotted my post saying Black Cat would only do 150k on rule34.xxx so he could "own" me today is just gonna have to delete that screenshot after all. LOL
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>>563922353
I feel like everything about Strange is balanced around the portal and his ability to stall and because they want that ability to stay in other possible elements for his kit will be shuffled elsewhere.
Still I think everyone has begged at least once for the Dark Magic meter to have more use considering it's always possible you'll have a full meter and nothing to use it on.
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>3 whos in a row
>No sinister six
>No villains
If Devil Dinosaur comes next, that's 4 who's in a row. Are NetEase stupid?
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>>563917460
>Insufferable faggots
>Insufferable faggots who want you dead
Seems obvious to me.
>>563921059
It's the Glup Shitto effect lol. Only it's marvel so Glob Herman.
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Wall hacks = good and should be up at all times
CC immunity = ok if you’re diving a Luna or Mantis but not that great
Portal = garbage
Invisibility = garbage
Gambling = gimmicky but fun and sometimes worth it
Earthbound = good against fliers
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>>563922616
yep. and we're only getting a one hero break before we go right back into the trash with The Hood.
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>>563922820
They're not gonna do Ironheart after Hood right? Surely they wouldn't.
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>>563923006
It would just be Iron Man 2
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>>563922616
>>563922820
This is what i mean. Like who the actual fuck is the hood and what the hell is devil dinosaur? Why are these being added to the game? Why are they just wasting slots on actual garbage?
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>>563922525
yeah that anon was delusional
116k ain't bad though for black cat tbf
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>>563919887
>>563919981
And it will be funny as shit too
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>>563923117
i like to think they're front-loading the year with dog shit because they're pulling the Thanos and Doom levers at the end of the year, but that's a very optimistic tale.

>>563923051
Ultron is Iron Man 2, Iron Heart would be Iron Man 3. lol
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>2025
1.0 Peak: 644k (Mister Fantastic, Invisible Woman)
1.5 Peak: 437k (The Thing, Human Torch)
2.0 Peak: 315k (Emma Frost)
2.5 Peak: 190k (Ultron)
3.0 Peak: 163k (Phoenix)
3.5 Peak: 149k (Blade)
4.0 Peak: 132k (Angela)
4.5 Peak: 112k (Daredevil)
5.0 Peak: 160k (Gambit)
5.5 Peak: 153k (Rogue)
>2026
6.0 Peak: 200k (Deadpool)
6.5 Peak: 153k (Elsa Bloodstone)
7.0 Peak: 141k (White Fox)
7.5 Peak: 116k (Black Cat)

Second worst-performing character launch after Daredevil.
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>>563919002
*Neither
>>563920417
>>563919520
Finally people who know the score that shit is a fucking death knell for them at this point
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>>563916205
If you're being sincere, and you must tell me if you are, you can avoid the main best from goht. You have to phase right after he hits you with the kick from the pull. It only does 50 damage. The main source is the upper cut into tracer after.

Phase after the 50 damage pull then play around your bubble. Or if you're feeling confident bubble after you get marked by a tracer (or right before you think he might use goht or commit to trying to kill you).
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>>563923323
and again, i feel like it is very important to remind people that a LOT of players are JUST logging in to go to Time's Square and jerk off role-playing Black Cat. that probably covers the difference between her and Daredevil and then some. i bet she has the lowest quickplay and competitive pick rate of any new hero ever.
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>>563914053
>playing dive dps in Poke Rivals

Zhang will personally curse you with 1000 more poke buffs if you question him again
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>>563921059
>>563921680
I can’t agree that she’s no one at this point, but it’s clear that some here are vastly overestimating her popularity. I would agree and go as far as to say she’s even in the shadow of Catwoman and that plays a role in her not being so big a draw. That said, she was unquestionably a shitty additional to the game, and the fact that they felt they had to give her the kit they did just solidifies it.
>>563920142
The problem is that they haven’t gotten it through their heads yet that coom alone isn’t going to net them the numbers they used to see. People clearly crave more than that at this point if the last two characters are anything to go off of.
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>>563922820
Hood is likely coming with Captain Marvel
No joke, but I think Hit Monkey will come with Thanos. No idea for Doomsday, nothing teased or leaked, probably an xmen
>>563923117
They spread known characters with less known ones
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>>563923529
coom would be selling better if they added some A-list coom instead of these fucking OC's nobody's ever heard of.
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>>563923117
They’re delusional and think people want endless literal whos after shitting out a few of them like >>563913016 says. Very grim grave they’re digging for themselves to say the least.
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>>563920237
>Legitimate bad luck powers
not consistent
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>>563923645
>Hood is likely coming with Captain Marvel
double Vanguard season? i guess i can't fight that. i'd rather have her with Thanos, personally, cause we'll get a sick ass home screen of them fighting (like we did with Angela and Daredevil) that i can use forever.
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>>563923323
>numbers go up when characters people actually know and like release
>numbers go down when literally who gives a fuck characters release
What do we do with this data?
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>>563923323
the only heroes here i've given a shit about are Emma Frost (and that was a surprise), Ultron (and he was a disappointment) and Rogue (who they won't make costumes for).
thanks, NetEase.
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>>563923818
>White Fox is more popular than Black Cat and Daredevil
I read webtoon but this is bullshit.
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>>563924043
THESE NIGGAS is JERKIN' OFF in TIME'S SQUARE, they are NOT PLAYING THE GAME.
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>>563923323
The reality is melee dps heroes will always underperform. Only a small portion of the players are willing to learn melee heroes.
If they made Black Cat a strat she would've smoked White Fox.
I guess OW was right the entire time to pander to support players.
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>>563923680
Its just like how they started to lean hard into the coom because people praised them for it and started developing some absolutely dogshit skins that are so blatantly designed to be performatively horny that they loop back around to being stupid and boner killing because they needed t keep upping the ante for approval
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>>563922525
>>563923153
I dont even need to check to know 95% of those numbers are AI so who fucking cares. You could generate a milion on your own.
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>>563921680
Nitpick but Gotham has a shit ton of super powered people too, it’s just that like you say, CW works as nice foil and also ‘mirror’ to Batman who’s similarly non powered. Also, Bruce is no nonsense and stern and Selina is openly playful and teasing and that’s always funnier and more entertaining than someone teasing someone else who’s a renown jokester.
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>>563923951
built for spider webbing creampies
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>>563924043
>Daredevil part of a downward trend before fan favs Rogue/Gambit
>downward trend across Elsa, Fox, Cat
learn2plot data anon
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>>563923323
… Phoenix had a higher peak than Gayde? Kekkk
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>>563924229
Agreed this is exactly how i feel about black cat. The trailer of her just being her dangling upside down with her gigantic ass center of the shot. Her idle stance on character select screen being down over awkwardly to either be shoving her cleaving in your face or her ass. Her running animation being the weird bent over run.
Everything about how is so exaggerative and excessively performative in its horniness that like you said, it just loops around into being ridiculous and goofy. I can't even find her sexy, it's so stupid that it's cringe.
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>>563923323
>they could do an entire year of Spider-Man villains and never leave the Marvel A-list
>insist on degrading game numbers by adding characters no one cares about
I wonder if they decided to launch Tenacity this season because they knew there wouldn't be a bunch of players jumping back in to try out a popular new character so they could try some shit out on just the diehards who won't quit over it.
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>>563924669
>downward trend when the only 1/2 of all time peak was a year ago and S1 is still unsurpassed
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>>563925000
That would be a downward trend yes anon.
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>>563925125
Buy high sell low.
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>They make Cyclops a shield tank
Your reaction
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>>563925205
Perfect. I already know most Cyclops fans are DPS mains so won't pick him, which means I can play him and pretend to know all about him while yelling "At them, my X-friends!" and shit until they snap.
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>queue up for match
>the entire other team is at least plat
>half of them are in a stack
>in quickplay
>I'm the only ranked person on my team
I'd rather eat the 15 minute timer than spend the next 10 minutes playing respawn simulator.
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>>563925424
Call him X-man too
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>>563925205
Based.
>wide optic beam destroys incoming projectiles and slows physical attackers within 5m as a "shield"
>focused beam for ranged damage
>team leader dmg reduction ability
>pushing himself back as a movement ability
>takes off visor for Ult
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>>563925205
>3 Vanguards in a row
NetEase hates tanks too much for that.
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>>563925205
I already play shield tanks on purpose so I don't really care. Don't really see it in his powerset but anything could happen
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>>563925678
Kek, I'll add it to the list. I've also got
>Is Phoenix like a friend of his?
>The glasses give him the power, right?
>So he must be a real big fan of Professor X to adopt the X in his team name, right?
and some more shenanigans.
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This game is so demoralizing right now its kinda unreal.
I thought by now I would have been playing Doctor Doom or Julibee
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>yfw they make cyclops a strategist and give him a chronovium ability called "to me, my x-men!" that summons mutant healers (via nightcrawler/magik/gateway or other mutant teleporter)
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>>563926048
They've been saving Doom for Doomsday which I used to be pissed about but now I'm glad cause it means he won't have Season 0 syndrome when he launches and instead will be all kitted out with 100 abilities and built in menus of tech and spells.
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>>563926143
>keep teasing what could be the coolest tanks
>vampire slop
>gala slop
>venom slop
>chink slop
>collector slop
>manhattan slop

its all just so tiring
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>>563926048
at the same time, I didn't think I'd be gooning to white fox off cooldown
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>play hela
>20+ finals every match
>play punisher
>50/50 chance I do well because you need constant pocketing to work for a lot of his value

how do you fix this shit
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>>563926403
change global damage falloff to 10 meters
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>>563926032
I'd imagine if you instalock cyclops and say some shit like "why don't his lasers cut stuff???" it would aggravate cyclops fans
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They are never adding a simple character ever again are they?
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>>563926565
Lmao, I'll remember that one
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>>563926048
i know, man. they've really been playing in our fucking faces. and then half the characters who have gotten in are getting no costumes while Psylocke and Luna drown in 'em.
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I played rogue few hours
the new anti CC doesn't trigger often enough but when it does i'st kinda annoying. Like 10% of my games I miss the downward kick, which kinda important.
Fatal attraction occasionally fails but it rarely matter.
The grab can't be missed.
Overall, it's not very impactful. Except for the time you miss the downward kick.
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YOINK
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>>563926646
let her in!!!
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>>563926143
>built in menus of tech and spells.
Monkey's paw curls, this will only be for the 1v6 mode. The regular version will have an oversimplified kit.
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>>563926646
There are enough simple characters already and all the gunmen are still top tier since launch.
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>dying irrelevant game apex legends had a higher peak today
>double that of black cat
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>>563927309
Black Flop
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>>563925205
I wait for Cable with a gun + psychic shield
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>>563927309
burn the coal pay the toll
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>>563927309
Damn they 3x'd OW's peak
At least we're still better than them LOL
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*bites bait
mmm yummy
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>>563923323
Daredevil underperforming is such horeshit. He’s been the funnest new addition and had the coolest gimmick and he isn’t a literal who. He just suffered from Angela’s horseshit flying meta ruining the game for people.
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>>563907831
Mid-seasons do 20~30% worse than season beginning. Had nothing to do with the character. If cat headlined the start of the season maybe it would get 165k. But that’s the limit on how much these characters matter.
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I think It's totally valid to blame your supports if a Starlord or Psylocke are farming your backline with ultimates.
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As a controller pleb, I only have so many buttons on my controller to use. So which black cat spells should I assign a special button to? I’ve 3 buttons to spare.
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Fact: Some games are genuinely uncarryable
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>>563928956
It’s not dd underperforming. It’s the season at large. Again mid seasons always do worse than season starts by like 25%. Angela(season start) had 132k, if anything it’s very good dd pulled 112k
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Fact: if I could clone myself I’d have a 100% win rate and wouldn’t be a virgin
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>>563923323
>Elsa peaked higher than Black Cat
LMAO
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>>563926245
The Latveria map will be kino, trust.
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>>563928956
Angela was shit on launch and made irrelevant by a suped up invis that dominated the game and made it unfun for everyone. Daredevil SUCKED because he was practically an OC and no daredevil fan liked him or his undaredevil like kit just neutrals and rivals fans.
>>563928960
Cope Black Cat's has a huge 30k drop it especially worse when you consider that she is supposedly the "big name". If she can't even bring back some mid season breakers then she sucks as hero addition with draw power. How is Esa Bloodstone and fucking whitefox pulling/retaining more players than her? If she's super relevant and popular she should be pulling closer numbers to fox as the better known character
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>>563926403
Some maps are rifle maps, some are turret maps, some are shotgun maps. The more you know.
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>>563929061
Flanking Namor is so nasty I should use him more often
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>>563929616
Elsa dropped 50k, white fox hit lower on season launch than elsa did mid-season.
The game is on a negative trajectory like it was during September-December of 2025.
Cyclops needs to hit hard to stabilize the game. And if they start the season with thr dinosaur instead, then it’s rip for that season.
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>>563929873
I still cope that it won't be the Dinosaur we're getting
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For what's it worth i think the meta and a CC change that was doomposted about on every site, probably contributed more to the player count than anything else. Hero releases can only do so much as we see with Daredevil. Gambit and Rogue rode the wave of the influx of zombie players and Deadpool got game awards advertising to boost his numbers but clearly it was enough. Thinking there's some perfect heroes that will save the playerbase is foolish.
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I auto'd my team into a loss because one of my teammate's instalocked Black Cat. He kept saying he was 75% winrate and good with her.

Lets see if he was telling the truth shall we?
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>>563930145
*wasn't enough
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>>563930198
I forgot the important part of this story
I banned Black Cat and he crashed out*

His first match at 4 AM.
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>>563930038
He just got added to the files.
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Yep
This dude was totally cracked with Black Cat. And he definitely earned those wins.
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>>563930503
Your image is blurry
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>>563930661
I'll just save you the time. Basically he played BC for 3-4 matches, got hard-carried, and I banned it the game I played with him and he crashed out. I just thought his delusional "75% winrate" argument in our vc was autistic
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Of the new characters, the ones that resonated with me were thing, blade, daredevil, supportpool, and black cat. However the ones I wanted to resonate with me were rogue, gambit, and tankpool. Rogue is just such a disgusting mess of a kit and she’s so ugly in this game that I feel anger every time I see her. Gambit I’ve tried time and time again to get him to click with me but I always feel short on cooldowns, and I’m always livid seeing white fox get to brawl while all I get to do with my stick is whack the floor. Tankpool just ended up feeling awful compared to the other two. I can’t play him without the icon throw or resettable double jump. As for the remaining characters. Emma I thought I’d like when I saw her kit, but she was just too ugly to play. Phoenix pissed me off for not capturing the character whatsoever. Torch and ultron were simply too boring. Invisible woman annoyed me because her kit doesn’t have any bubble shields. Mr fanny was fun but I never have a reason to play him over someone else. And lastly Angela, Elsa, and white fox are literal who’s so I never have and never will give a fuck about them.
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>>563926048
I thought I’d have a classic wolverine skin by now, or a classic hulk, but nope. Instead I have 50 million ugly psylocke and Luna skins to choose from. Guess they should stop making avengers movies and start making Luna snow movies from now since she sells so well.
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Spider-Gwen never btw
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>>563929159
Buttons not worth binding
>gamble
>wall hacks
Buttons you should bind no matter what
>invis
>CC immunity
CC immunity is especially useful to use reactively, since it just lets you immediately out from shit like elsa ult even if you hadn’t bought it initially. Between portal and the pillar/earthbound, it’s hard to tell which you should choose over. But for immediate value go for the pillar
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>>563930302
It's over (for me)...
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>Black cat's weapon be like
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>>563931275
that "no clones" shit went out the window the day they said they wanted like 200 playable heroes. lol
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Out of all of DPS, Daredevil receives the most value by having better game sense comparatively.
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>>563931308
pillar makes more sense than portal. portal's not a reactive move just like the wall hacks. it's something you plant when you're already safe.
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>in plat 3
>all my QP games are GM-Celestial
I can’t even practice because I’m playing people that are just straight up better than me anyway
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>get black cat on my team
>retard goes WF
>doesn’t dive with cat
>does nothing but healbot
>lose because the black cat and WF do nothing all game
>this happened for 5 games already
QP is going to be terrible for a week
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>>563932367
Are you like hard capped at platinum 3? Or do you actively climb whenever you play ranked but are just currently at plat 3? Cause the reality is there is absolutely no difference in player quality from platinum to grandmaster. Maybe some of the celestial players are a bit of a step up but you can still play ball with them.
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>>563932786
im already seeing a big difference to season end. lots of 4 dps games all of a sudden.
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Why would they make Black Cat's resource a constantly shifting small number instead of a large visible bar?
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Black cat is so slept on lol. Her enhanced claws deal so much damage, you can melt tanks with it.
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>>563932912
I usually stop playing ranked when I hit plat
My peak has been D3 but for the last 3 seasons almost every single QP game I play is nothing but GM3 - celes 2
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>>563933081
chinks tried hard to be creative when majority of shooter gamers only want bing bing wahoo gameplay
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>>563925205
at this point if they make main Marvel characters everyone has been asking for anything but DPS I'll be happy, the amount of bitching and moaning every time yet another duelist gets shafted for them at least trying something outside the box when the vast majority of Marvel heroes are either glorified punch/kick merchants or brawl tanks at best is fucking ridiculous
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>>563933749
She just now clicked for me after a while and yup.
I kneel Zhiyong. She's fun as fuck.
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>>563926048
when they said they were adding "lesser known characters" they really meant it was time to shill Luna Snow and the Asians of Atlas

them acting like they were gonna "run out" of characters anytime soon when you could dump half the fucking X-Men in a year and still not make a dent is absurd, nobody gives a shit about goddamn Elsa Bloodstone outside of her being Looney Tunes busted as a character up until they rightly nerfed the hell out of her
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Today I will only play quickplay I will fill every game and I will tryhard as if it was a rankup game in competitive
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>>563933749
TF is enhanced claw? the whip?
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>>563935527
Based Magneto main
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>>563935697
4 out of 5 games are indeed Magneto matches
The fifth being a healer fill
There's never a lack of dps
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now that it's been more than 24 hours, how many black cat lords do we have itt?
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>>563935914
im lord coded if that counts
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Portal opened, take that Strange

>>563936526
>>563936526
>>563936526
>>563936526
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>>563935680
>he doesn’t know
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>>563923818
Release devil dinosaur ofc



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