BR """""""fixes""""""" - EditionPrevious thread: >>563666662>Official site:warthunder.com/>Custom sights, skins, hangars, ui & sound mods, etc:live.warthunder.com/>Wiki with info on tech trees, weapon systems and game mechanics:wiki.warthunder.com/Main_Page>Old, better wiki (no longer updated but better layout):old-wiki.warthunder.com/Main_Page>Guides to Air and Ground battles + MEC:steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=742852313docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hgHbWlSjefFhCqOUeGpoKQntdQDPG32X7XQo9EqDF00old-forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/438251-strategic-tips-for-ground-battle-maps-36-maps-90-videos-as-of-28august2020>/// Top Tier jet gameplay FAQ ///>DO I HAVE TO WATCH ALL OF THEM?Yes.>BUT-Don't cry here then.>HOW DO I STOP DYING?https://youtu.be/DOGazUgUdsQ?si=SRQAfaFmUHUHCX20https://youtu.be/xrNJZmA9aL8?si=EmBVLsEPpqBkBrdjhttps://youtu.be/SUgf2kaQPdc?si=JT3Ra3JekweNfXGShttps://youtu.be/_gp77rkWXVs?si=GysAtw_GtsLecZw2https://youtu.be/NbKcAdLoWDk?si=MUroEf8K6BswauiQhttps://youtu.be/NYfNbDZw5J8?si=_rCIglb0PwI-QDft>HOW DO I GET KILLS?https://youtu.be/Weghk_2DpfA?si=U5XORrB1CdNpqCZOhttps://youtu.be/_tQ6JzPWEFU?si=IYR-mm3xKcSlJFQshttps://youtu.be/85QqlxXMywU?si=8FLv_ZNaAa6Oz9H_https://youtu.be/iaDMyKEW5Vc?si=rcC_CSLNM3C0_PQm>HELP I TRIED ALL OF THE ABOVE AND IT DOESN'T WORKPost replay / clip with data with sensor view on to get feedback and tips.>BUT MUH ANONIMIT-Shut the fuck up and get good then.>Hi-tech "slavmonkey / chinkroach to white people" communicator (post any fanmail you get):translate.yandex.com/ocr>/// It’s fixed! №114 ///>You can now track ALL of your dropped air munitions by clicking their new icons on the map.>Added new "newfag-retard" countermeasures for automatic bomb release using CCRP + Target Point.>Fixed players missing from replays.https://youtu.be/1acWg-c5Buo?si=I-jZe3GzoOPLoRPO&t=13Reminder: BR is fixed)))).Thread theme: https://youtu.be/8-MdB0oJtdk?si=OWIkEVhETXfoEqcl
catch my vikhr...
Today we'll remind him
keeeeeek
>>563881101it's you
evening
>>563666662
>>563880926Me and who...?
wake me up when the next fun event vehicle is revealed so I can get it, spade it in one day, and never touch it again and repeat
>>563881378bro
>>563881338>missile game>radar betterThe Snail has spoken.
if the balance changes go through as is, will the f8u become the strongest rank 6 us jet?
>>563882690>becomeIt already was if you didn't own the F4D
>reddit roulette
>https://wiki.warthunder.com/randomVehicle
I'm tired of handheld Leo2A4s ruining GRB.
>Spitfire raised to seven point oh>Half of the Japanese air tree is getting a BR bump>Alpha Jet going to 9.0 in air>Centauro 2, Freccia, and C13 T90 going up in BRWhat did Gaijin see?
>>563883129>chance for ch*nk or k*ke treeI'm not that much of a gambler, sorry
>>563883768keeeeeeeek
>>563883129rolan(d)
>>563883738They just really, really, reeeeeeeeeeeeally, REALLY love getting DDOS'd.
>>563881202i wish i was xher
this is great for mindless f-14 grinding while watching movies / reading on other monitor
>>563884309>50% more fakours for only 0.3 br bumpoh god oh fuck
>>563883129nigger
>>563884081fugg
>>563884220why is kamovposter there
>>563884309Can't wait for more Fakour bitching because Redditors don't pay attention to the giant flashing RWR that is constantly beeping when a radar missile is fired at them.
>>563881378me on the left
>>563884898>Redditors don't pay attention to the giant flashing RWR that is constantly beeping when a radar missile is fired at them.bear in mind the median gamer is a brown teenager, and brown people physically can't hear beeping noises (see also: smoke detectors)
>>563884898>ignoring the fact that individual phoenixes ping multiple rwrs at the same time
really mid planethe digital rwr is nice tho
>shoot aim120-a-b-c and various other radar missles at any enemy heli>always miss, first heading straight into the heli and then doing a 180° 1m away from it>enemy radar missles always hit me what am i missing
>>563885090>what am i missingchaff
>>563885090do you wanna know how i know you're an illiterate zoomzoom retard with a reactionary reptilian brain?
new to top tier, just bought an f14, how do I stop dying to missiles?Also how do I fire my missiles, it just turns red when I press space.
>>563885090i think youve made the same post a few times at this pointthe issue is that youre standing still and not trying to avoid the missiles at all
>>563885192lol
>>563885065chinese gluttons wouldn't be satisfied with the riches of heaven
>>563884789i cant do this man i ff
>>563885034>squad of 4 f-14s>we all hardlock the same guy>we all shoot 6 phoenixes at the same guyobjective: crash his game with RWR updates
>>563885303but isnt that the point to defeat pd radar missles?like with the av-8 hover meme in arb
>>563885957i have no clue if this is modeled in warthunder, but IRL, there is no such thing as a stationary radar signature for a helicopter - the rotor is the biggest radar image and it's constantly moving at a high velocity, obviously
>>563886091The rotor radar signature isn't modeled in War Thunder iirc
>>563886091not modeled planefags cry about it every time
redditors can't notch. they're the teammates who has the entire tt yet they're negative in every vehicle they've played in.
Well I can't notch but im 4nonymous.
why can't it get apfsds?
>>563888184Many things that could have a thing don't have a thing because balance.
>>563888184can a gatling gun even use apfsds?
>>563889429They have apfsds ammo for it, it's just not in the game.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU CAN JUST BIND A BUTTON TO INSTANTLY ZOOM INSTEAD OF HAVING TO SCROLL LIKE A MOTHERFUCKER TO SLOWLY INCH TOWARDS A BIGGER ZOOM SETTINGThis one setting has improved my stats by a good 15-20% holy shit.
>>563890707kek?
>>563890707on top of thatexport yout controlslook for cameraSmoothset it to -2.4you'll thank me later
>>563890884what does this do
>>563891373it removes the ugly ass zoom smoothening effect makes it into an instant toggle
i wish they just gave the pidornator darts and put it to 12.0
thoughts on the dozer blades?they weight a ton and slow your acceleration down but do they offer any protection?
>>563890707The fucking contrast between 2016 /wtg/ and 2026 /wtg/ is abysmally demoralizing.
>>563890745Please understand I'm a noob through and trough. This shit is life changing.>>563890884Done, thanks a lot anon. Tried it in a test drive and it's even better, very nice.>>563892264Cut me some slack I'm just a noob who plays this game casually man.
you weren't even born in 2016, xoomer
>>563891893theyre useful on a few maps for getting angles that you wouldnt normally be able to get.
>>563892319>Done, thanks a lot anon. Tried it in a test drive and it's even better, very nice.note that it'll reset itself every now and then when you make any changes to your control scheme via the in-game wizardyou'll have to repeat the export import song and dance then
>>563892492Are there other changes like this or just this one?I'd write a script but frankly for a single line change manual is probably faster given that I still have to manually do the export/import steps.Either way thanks already. It feels like this would be something you use so much, any time it gets reset you'd feel it and just be reminded to manually reset it from that.
>>563892706>Are there other changes like this or just this one?dunno, it's the only one I used on account on not being able to stand the smoothening
>>563892815Fair enough. Thanks again, this is very nice already.
>>563893341anytime king
>enemy team spawns 2 nukes>friendly MiG-23s spawncamp them
>>563893801the event is over though?
>>563893901That's just how based my team was.
>>563894021CAS faggots need to die
>>563894694you can't kill me
>>563893801r24r my beloved niggerstick
>zeros and spitfires going up in BR againHoly shit, more than a decade in and you shitters STILL never learn. What's a another name for lack of learning ability? I think it's low something....
I am an Aspide believer.
>>563895790translate this to usa weapon terms
>>563894694>>563894903https://youtu.be/jozqnG_32i0?si=6QOowLmA-nf0n5n6&t=8>30mm spray at 0:08
>>563896025gatling
>>563895923E-2 with stronger engine and 1 second longer burn.On a platform with MTI radar.But you need to drop the gun for it.
>>563896212E-2 what
>>563896269
>>563895691i was just playing the premium ko after a long break>5.3 woof this is going to be painfulbut then EVERYONE STILL tries to turn after you it's hilariousthey could put it at 7.0 too with the spitfire and i swear nothing would change
>BMP-2M is at 10.3>Freccia is going to 11.0Genuinely what the fuck are they thinking? The Freccia is worse in every way
>>563896410tell me please
>shooting the radar with he or atgms on this thing kills it despite being a whole meter and a half above the truck>doing the same on the pantsir doesn't why?
>>563896593))))
>>563896574Aspide is a better AIM-7E-2.
>>563896593Get better HE/ATGMs
>>563896593russophobia?
>>563896443>F&F galore>BOO HOO HOO WHY IS MY HANDHELD LITERAL PUSH BUTTON FOR FREE KILL SHITBOX HIGHER THAN SOMETHING RASHANAnd that is why you don't go IVF kids. Test tube babies ALWAYS come out retarded.
>>563896593don't get into it. every spaa has this issue
>>563896593landing a big fat he shell on a pantsir's cabin doesn't kill it either))))
>>563895691their kds are probably getting statpadded by bot bomber hordes
>>563896593After the terminator i believe the schizos who say the russian government pays for positive representation tbqh
>>563897000every team has the same problem thoughbeit
guys why is this game so biased?
>>563897127>only after a shitty gepard knockoff with spall linerhow bad?
it was real in xer mind
>>563897426>be bad
>>563897789>shots 1-5 clearly missed
what is he doing chat
>>563897875>be insanely bad
>>563897426Oh you know exactly why.
>>563898171>be under the mold type of bad
>>563896443I was going to uptier it anyway to at least 11.7 maybe 12.3
>>563898171
>>563898920
>>563899101
>>563899101)))))))))))))))))
what the-
>It's going to be added>it's going to be at a lower BR compared to all other wheeled IFVs>It's going to have magical blackhole armor>and it's going to shit on everything with Fire on the move ATGMs and some retarded Dart beltI hope these "modern" russian vehicles never make it to the game tbqh
>>563897445>most survivable vehicle ever implemented, added at the paypig BR, unaddressed for months while the similarly OP puma was actually gutted in a weekEat shit
>>563899101Overpenned, should have loaded HE.
>>563899373food for me strf 9040c
>>563899494The humble "documented" spall liner that disassembles rounds fired at it
>>563899584food for me strf 9040a rbs56
>>563899373Good.
>>563899701It'll come with APS
>>563899753food for me strf 90105 xc-8
uh oh chimput
>>563899373This is literally just a VCI with a different camo.
i've taken on a habit where i relentlessly ram someone all game if they cross my way upon spawning very entertaining
>>563900202true blue nigger.
>>563900202Buh buh based!
>>563900056>no ram coating>no s ducts>exposed engines>broken internal bay>no ldircm>no ridgeline work>first that reflects radar>rear cone is just an ass plug instead of a radarand most importantly>wood screwsso much for a 3rd gen (being very generous) "stealth" jet
>>563898050>Zrzut ekranu
>>563900056diesel
>>563900447video not related of course
>>563900447A Gripen A has more stealth properties than that pile of junk
>>563900447I'm not an aircraft expert but wouldn't this giant pod on the front make it less stealthy?
>>563901004other side has radar absorbing coating so it is stealthy when not usedit rotates!
Why would they want to make a demonstration aircraft harder to see? Isn't that the entire point of a demonstration aircraft?
>>563901004yesthey know it too but can't figure out how to integrate the irst pod into the airframe like the us and china do so they make it rotate
>>563901004That's an IRST camera. And technically yes, but no really.
good game
>>563900447Nice 15+ year old T-50-4.Meanwhile another batch of 16 Su-57Ms entered service earlier this year.
>>563900007The merkava has a massive ammo bay that means its survivability at top tier is far lower than the BMPT which can only be OHKd in two frequently inaccessible locations. Disabling it's offensive capability is more difficult than any other vehicle too, and it gets infinite OHK rockets and to go with its redundant barrel melting autocannons. Eat shit
>>563901453another 16 Su-57Ms? when can we start to see them used in Ukraine?
>>563901453can we see them?
>>563901554>57Mfake
>>563901554They all went to Algeria, sorry
>>563901563
>>563901503>massive ammo bay>he gets hit before he fires 5+ rounds>he needs 15+ shells in a gamehow bad?
If India buys a batch of SU-57s does that mean British mains get to eat well for once?
warbond devblog do koTL's note: "do ko" means "kill BVVD"
how good is usa 10.3 im curiousid probably need to buy the premium warthog
>two battles in a row with lowiq in my squad trigger finger is itching
>>563902248pearls before swine
>>563902279Oh yeah. Cause Gaijin has put so many Indian aircraft in the British tree.
>>563902236>no argumentI accept your concession.
is the jaguar IS any good?
>>563902620not reallypretty mid flight modelthe magic 2 are good but it's pretty sad otherwisethree paveways aren't too thrilling for 11.0 GRB cas either but it's workableif you got it for free it's alright, but never spend money on one
>>563902501They're getting the SU-30MKI, MiG-29UPG, both Tejas variants, Mirage 2000I, and Rafale EH soon.
>>563902815copyslop my beloved
>>563902903They're different because it's produced in India with Indian components, sir. The SU-30MKI will get Uttam AESA radar, BrahMos radar missiles, and Rudram ASM missiles, sir.
>>563903092>jeet shitpick up the phone
france should stop selling their equipment to other countries so they can stay cool and unique in war thunder i will write them a letter
>>563902903>>563903324I'm sick of retards and their lingo.
>>563903521hello jeet
good morning sirs do NOT redeem the bloody benchod paki basterd plane
>Longer range>Faster>Better maneuverability>Better trackingImagine being Pakistani and using Chinese PL-15
When is Italy getting its Greek Rafale and when is GB getting its Indian Rafale?
so good chink shit wiped the floor with them
yes the chinks literally send the muttgroids runniing from iran
>>563904116Greece is going to Israel.
>>563904217i mean chinks threatened the us that they'd sink us ships in the gulf if the blockade wasn't lifted, and it was lifted a couple hours later so yeah
>3 days before battle pass end>main prize BR increaselmao. That ugly thing isn’t even any good.
Anyone remember which plane was the first plane to get walleye bombs? i remember they were a pretty big deal when they got added
>PL-15a man can only wishimagine the gweilo rage rampage because they can only fight with their dinky monopulse missiles meanwhile Chinese fighters pick them off with ease
remember when some yellow pig made a bug report with ai faked images
>>563883129I only play 1,2 and 7No I'm not gonna play unspaded low tier trash and get 5 killsNo I wont spade it if I get 00No I won't try to get a nuke in a pz 3 if I get 000This sucks, this is terrible
>>563883129roll
>>563905253Gweilo all missiles are modeled as monpulse.
>>563905253>the best thing the us has in 2020+6 is the aim-120didk about others but the us WILL be fucked if dual pulse missiles are addedmaybe meteor can fight them off because it's a ramjet but yeah monopulse missiles stand no chance
>>563905870python er is dual pulse
jesus fuck khrizantema is so fucking overpowered on larger maps Fire crossing is straight up slaughter lmao
>>563890884This seems like a great idea at firstBut then after trying it for a bit it just starts making you slightly nauseousAfter playing for 7 years with the animation, removing it just doesn't workAt least not instantly, I found that it very quickly becomes near instantaneousSetting it to beyond -0.1 starts making my head hurt in test drive
>>563906902worked fine on my machinet: just shy of 10k hours, switched at around 8k
>>563906287we can only hope that like half of the additional defense budget next year goes towards domestic jatm production
>>563906948It also applies to airI think I'll slowly move the value lower and lower over time to not get motion sickness
>>563906287jatms were integrated with f-35s and f-22s months ago
>>563890884is there a way to do this WITHOUT exporting controls? surely the exported controls file is just a copy of the one WT currently uses
>>563908553nothat's why it's elite ball knowledge
>>563883129>>563905681Done
>>563904252Proof?
>>563909479it was mentioned in the last dev summary or the one before thatthey have plans to supplement israel with greece and cyprus
>>563909479BVVD Q&A
IFW?
Playing both the MiG-29 and the Yak-141 I noticed the mig will keep pulling until blackout at all speeds. Not really sure why they insist on having the mig pull so much, but whatever
>>563911019Damn this bitch is RAPID even stock
>>563912096yeah it's a thrown brick
>>563911019why does THAT sit in 9.0 whilst all other Autocannons sit at 9.7? is it REALLY because it doesn't have darts?
>>563912798It is exactly like the BTR-82AT except with a worse ATGM, so it has to be at the same br. Why is the BTR-82AT at 9.0 while other autocannons are at 9.7?))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
man I sure do love flying Helicopters!
>You need 355,000 extra points to get the trade coupon.>That's 10 extra stars +tipI miss the old system.
>>563916852crafting events were better
>>563916973its so incredible that gaijin was able to system like crafting events and somehow make it worse
>>563916973The events when you had to get x kills/ play x amount of match with a nation were even better (unless I'm getting confused with another game)
Imagine if Pierre Sprey lived long enough to see Yak's shoot down drones
>Get TK'd>Try to say well done>Accidentally accept the apology
>>563919526this got me so many times
>>563919526i always just call the teamate who killed me a nigger
looking at the retarded br changes makes me want to take a small, few years long break
fuck why is the italian190 71k rp
>>563888184>>563888414some things have it that shouldn't have it too
planes for me? i look like this
How bad are the br changes?
>>563922389They are incredible. Gaijin finally listened and fixed the game.
in fo wha?
>>563923868the T stands for trans, sis
>>563923868The T stands for Testosterone, Chad
>>563923868Fun fact: T stands for Tchina
So I'm looking at YT videos comparing WoWs vs WT naval and they're still not explaining what's even different about the game beyond shit like graphics and economy. Do the ships have hard roles like in wows (destroyers proving spotting/smoke)? Are national differences big or small? What's the meta etc
>>563923868>>563924338>>563924407>>563924475T means TRASH though
>>563925113nobigger ships r strongersmaller ships r weakerlow tiers = small boatshigh tiers = bigger boatsnaval in wt is retarded
>>563925153So high tier will just be all battleships?
>>563925332yeah
>>563925113>Do the ships have hard rolesNot really. Ships in War Thunder can only ever competitively fight against ships of the same hull type. When a Destroyer fights a Cruiser or Battleship, it has virtually no way to fight back except for hitting a lucky torpedo. There is no match in which you are better off bringing a Destroyer or Cruiser if you can spawn a Battleship, it is basically just a race to the biggest ship you can spawn, and at every BR the top ships all play pretty much the same way. A destroyer in a 4.3 game is played exactly the same way a Battleship at 7.0 is played. The only thing that changes is the range you fight at.
>>563925113>Do the ships have hard roles like in wowsthe closest thing is the SAM equipped ships defending against Tu-95's and B-52's in top tier naval at the moment
>>563925437Cruisers and destroyers with good torpedoes can't make up the difference at all? And how does spotting work?
>>563925703>Cruisers and destroyers with good torpedoes can't make up the difference at allnot really considering torpedoes don't have magnetic fuse options for running under battleships and detonating under the keel>And how does spotting workyou use your eyes to look at the enemy vessel
>learning how to use CCRP in sim>bomb series decides to reset itself to 0 after every rearm/respawn
>>563925784lol wut? I figured you could tweak the torps in this game however you want? Can you change their range and speed?
>>563926001>Can you change their range and speedthe only configurable thing is the running depth, and you can only do that before you spawn inthere is a vehicle modification for slower, longer range torps too, which can't even be changed IN BATTLE
>>563925113WoWs actually functions (unlike their other ones), has an economy which rewards you and tries to get you to statmaxx while WT ships is just gay aids that was never meant to happen
>>563925789huh, why do they look so lewd? user skin?
Why haven't they done a Pepsi collab yet?
>>563926050How are aircraft integrated?
>>563928410do things, earn spawn pointswhen you die, you can spawn a plane (of your choosing, you put it in your lineup) using said spawn pointsyou've got a 10% chance of success at bestplane mounted torpedoes don't get a lead indicator but ship torpedoes do, lmao
https://x.com/nexta_tv/status/2045164718998814775>prop planes are being used effectively in modern warThis is based, the high speed of a fighter jet is actually a major detriment when it comes to shooting down slow drones. Jets have always been a waste of money.
It appears I have made a huge mistake, I thought I could start off the avenger....
>563928779
>>563928779PropBVLLs... we are so back
>>563923868J-15 with catobar capability. the "T" in pinyin stands for Tanshe which means catapulted/ejected
>>563928840Picard would never say that.
>>563897127>paysRussians do this for free
>>563925113other than being boat on boat violence (with the occasional plane (or submarine in wows)), they're completely different games, and both are retarded in their own waysWoWs is gamified to the extreme, WTs naval is a (very poor, half-arsed) attempt at (approximate) ""realism""so if you're into (more or less functioning) gameplay, go wows. if its the ships you're interested in, WT.also WoWs hands out freebies like crazy, Anton wont even spit in your face if you bought every premium ship
>>563930889>https://www.gamespot.com/articles/russian-government-to-fund-patriotic-games/1100-6415492/somebody is getting paid
>>563925113To add to the other replies, keep in mind that what is known as "WoWS" currently is a dying fork of the real game being (barely) maintained (more liked milked dry to be honest) by a skeleton crew that isn't capable of real development. Wargayming had a schizo episode in 2022 and cut all ties with anything Russian, which included the game's actual development team that continues to properly work on the real WoWS under a different name exclusively for the Russian market. You can still register an account, download an English translation on the forums and play it, it's not like chink games where you need the country's government ID to start playing, but I don't think you'll be able to pay for anything without third parties.
>>563931829>WoWs is gamified to the extremeit's not. the pen angles are pretty good and the roles are good. the stupid part about the game is all the non dd bb gameplay is so unfinished and has been for a WHOLE DECADE. but it's at least refined BB caliber combat vs WT naval which is smoke and mirrors of a nothingburger
jeez I can't stop thinking about reinstalling this game. but no maps, no objectives, no world war mode. I don't fucking care. all I can think about every day is getting into easy combat and sending 4 30mms into your face. but this fuckig "GAME" has no objectives, let alone functioning airfields. TWO DECADES LATER
>>563933765Nuclear Thunder is literally the exact thing you're missing and it's being added permanently. No ETA though.
Grinded every plane that I want in the game… what the fuck do I do now?
>>563934858wait for 500k+ RP 5th Gens in this coming months kek
>>563883738why in the world does the alpha jet go up in air?it has flares but thats it
can you testflight the nuke carriers somehow?
>>563935928people the only people who played it were good at the gameso it goes upso the only people who will now play it are good at the gameso it will go upad infinitum
i got my first top tier nuke#7 totalits a pure coincidence that it got it on a weekend and all my kills were completely obliovious
>>563936321Can't testflight them specifically but there are user missions with custom vehicles that have nukes. Also if you use the Mission Editor (small button on the bottom left of the test flight settings menu) and start an Escort Bombers mission with Soviets or Americans on your side, you can select the Tu-95M/B-52H nuke carriers to be the bombers and they will actually drop their nukes. I recommend teamkilling all but one so your PC doesn't die from eight 1.2 megaton nukes going off at once.
Why is the 6.3 Jpz the most underrated german 6.0-7.7 tank?You just fly around at mach 10 and 1 tap their entire team even with full uptiers
>>563935049The Abrams is not very useful in urban warfare. They created a TUSK (Tank Urban Survival Kit) for the M1 Abrams which gives it ERA but it doesn't change the poor maneuverability of the turret or the fact that it's so loud it can be heard across an entire city.
>>563936867>nuke - :/>nuke (japan) - öÖö
>>563927463Gayjew made the pillows somewhat hornier from the initial designs quite a while ago
>>563937243Tusk was designed against stray pg-7 and IEDs while Russians are smarter than mutts (well duh) and designed ERA that defeats apfsds aswell
>>563939019Classic mutts, copy Russian stuff without understanding why it's like that or what it's for ahaha
>>563928779i laughed, what the fuck
why are these two at the same br if the kiowa is a MASSIVE upgrade?
>>563939576dont think too hard about itgayjew just doesnt give a fuck
>>563939576ty90 taxyeah it's very stupid
>2026>gaijin (nonwhites) still can't make ground units stay on the ground and not clip below it
>>563925703anon is a dooming retard who has never pressed the smoke button they have as much chance as they do in world of warships and people (bots) are a lot more stupid when it comes to dodging torps than in WoW
I am new to missiles so help me understand this. From the 10 matches I had so far with a heatseeking missile>friendly jet flies either sideways or with the front facing me (not the burning hot engine) at 10-15-20kms away>heatseeker locks onto them>enemy flies close to me, 2-5-10kms away, often times with the ass burning hot afterburning engine facing me>no lock or i need to get so close to them i might as well use the gun to shoot itIs the game designed that way so you can get teamkills more often because if that's the case then the devs should pat themselves on the back for this amazing trolling mechanic.
>>563946882actually anon the heatseaker only locks onto them if you drag the tiny little "kill this nigger" circle over your teammates planemaybe don't do that.
>>563947030Then why it doesn't lock onto an enemy that's burning hotter than them and the heat source is closer to me?
>>563947129it isnt about distance brown retard, it is about what enters the little "kill this nigger" circledon't fire into dogfights i fucking hate you greedy subhuman retards fucking up my dogfight EVERY FUCKING TIME
>>563947454Why are you like this? Is everything ok at home? Do you need someone to talk to?
>>563947454The enemy enters the kill circle yet the kill circle doesn't lock it.Maybe you should calm the fuck down before attempting to answer something.
>>563947515just stop doing it jaheed, your behavior is a cancer to this game mode.
>>563947515go back
>>563946882You will need to show some evidence of this happening.
>a normal (white person)>oh right not firing into dogfights seems polite i can be more careful with my missiles>brown person>LOLOL UMAD? LOLOL I DO NOTHING WRONG I PLAY GAME I SHOOT WEAPON WHY IT NO WORK????
>>563947683>nigga with a sudden anger outburst calls others jarheadsMaybe League of Legends is more fit for you.
I wouldn't call 18kms 'dogfight range'
Here's the answer since the 5 retards here are too busy getting angry at each other:An ally close to you or closer to the target often produces a stronger IR signature (afterburner, proximity) than the enemy you are aiming at. That's why even if a friendly flies past an enemy that's closer to you, the IR will often lock onto them and not the enemy.
>>563948093>no uoh true how could i forget "no u"just stop acting like a braindead subhuman and the game will not punish you
>>563948237It's ok to not be white, anon. God loves you just the way you are. Brown.
>>563948121He said he's not getting lock even when the enemy is flying very close to him
>>563948370Common game occurrence. Keep the seeker onto them until it locks. Sometimes it's not instant even if someone is going full afterburner and their exhaust is facing you. You will learn to ignore it.
>non non asks a silly but game>triggers resident's trauma>ook ook aak aak ensuesYou deserve to be teamkilled.
War Thunder players will go to insane lengths to do anything in 100 posts but to answer a simple question in 1.
>>563948591it seems like you have vantablack blood actually
>>563948712>not a single drop of turkish blood in any ancestor>duhhhh u r le turklets see your dna anon
>>563948829post handbrowns jealous lmaoi will never stop pointing out your subhuman behavior btwSTOP FUCKING KILLING YOUR TEAMMATES
>>563948959me hand's white dear Blackmanyou're black lmao
>>563949086this has been posted before lying subhuman
i fell into the water and drowned
>>563948959>Stop killing your teammatesGet outta the way next time. I will go through all my blue enemies to reach the red one. I will demand an apology from them because they're in my way. This is the winner's mentality, son.
>>563949264brown mentality>all is permitted if i can call myself winnerit is how they justify their rampant cheating too
>>563949159unlikely dear blackman
>>563949565i refuse to believe it simply nothing ever could no white man would ever be so erroneous with their missile usage and ability in air combat
>>563949642you're black
>>563949351No amount of calling someone brown, yellow, cheese or bronze will change the fact that you don't have a winner's mentality. You don't posses the necessary attitude to do whatever it takes to win.
shhh, they are sleeping
>>563950427t. loner lobbying artillery at them
why are they like this?
The more I play this game the happier I am knowing that pidorians are getting wiped out from the face of the earth and I can comfortably see their demise from my couch
12 years
>>563934365nuclear option is 1000 times better and I came to war thunder for WW2 planes not missile aids. also clap clap clap for gaijin copying another successful indie game because they are incapable of fixing their hacked together trash heap gacha.
>>563951589they could make a pre nuke version with just normal ww2 bombers i wish it would become the entirety of ARB
>>563951589Nuclear opshit has no mouse aim and only features gayass nearfutureslop fictionshit vehicles so it's instantly worse.
>>563951589I keep hearing about the game. Does it feature real life planes? Especially cold war jets when everyone strapped nukes to every shitty jer made?
>>563952010no its all made up future very angular stealth design jets
Play the M103
>>563950501thats our spawn
>>563950501who
>>563951589Notching is too effective in Nuclear Option and it's probably the reason why notching is too effective in War Thunder. Gaijin stole the idea of making it a core game mechanic even though it's only effective in very specific circumstances IRL.
doesn't matter top tier would be awful without notching
Is this thing worth it?
i still dont know what notching is
>>563954809
>>563954775no rank 1 or 2 premium is worth it. You can grind that far in a day
>>563954809flex your dick muscle while having a boner
>>563955107Forgot to add for grinding events, if no, what's a good tier 2/3 event aircraft?
>>563952010It's a game about future warfare so basically all planes and ordnance are made up, although inspired by real life >pushprop A-10>retarded Gripen>F-22 - YF-23 Hybrid>F-35 - YF-32 Hybrid>RAH-66
>>563955379This looks horrible. Maybe it has mod support.
>>563955570It doesn't KEKYPOW.
>>563955570No official mod support but there are a few (few as in exactly 2) modded aircraft and QoL mods already, so it'll probably have some real planes in the futurehttps://youtu.be/MPbTj9MPX34
is there no usermission where ai planes fire arhs at you to practice notching?
>>563952583I did and it's dogshit
>>563956626https://live.warthunder.com/post/1080075/en/
Where sound mods.
>>563880926Star Conflict is shutting down on the 10th of October this year.https://star-conflict.com/en/news/3917-star-conflict-shutdown-announcement-enThis is probably related to their new game Star Wrath formerly Project Void Space.https://starwrath.com/en/
Would this be wt related? Before the changes the title name https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmwSMMSCX6s
>>563959407>that looks oka- *extractionshit*
>>563959807reddit is trying to preserve the game if anyone is interestedhttps://old.reddit.com/r/StarConflict/comments/1so5wyj/star_conflict_preservation_project/
>>563959407>>563959931I wonder when are they going to shut down Crossout
>>563959407I didn't even know this was a game that existed
>>563959415>Soviet doctrine was to drive the BTR as close to the objective as possible and drop the infantry off there>it has proven historically to not be a good ideaSoviet weapon doctrine was schizophrenic but it can't be anywhere near as schizophrenic as the M113 designers who didn't even know if they were making an APC or an IFV or a tank destroyer.
>>563960350>>563960490Meanwhile Cuisine Royale: CRSED: F.O.A.D. is still up.
>>563957105for the life of me i cant get the rafales to spawn
when?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq-XapIkUBs
When?
>>563961630Right after Kel-Tec SUB2000 in infagtry.
>>563961630war thunder doesn't have movie props
>>563961974it'd be neat if it did though
>>563961954geeeeeeeeeg
>>563962121yes i am aware the 'BMPs' arent movie props
>>563961630type shit chinks parade around to sell to thirdies
>>563962325That's a pretty admirable attempt ngl.
>>563962121yeshttps://youtu.be/4STtf22-MR0https://youtu.be/_mvyvYNAJcs
>>563892264>falling up the stairs
>>563961974It has an OPFOR prop though.
>>563963087besides most of US/GER tree there are no props
Give me a fucking reason why A-10C isn't going down to 11.3It gets the same Mavs as the 10.7 A-10 LateIs it the meme GBU-39s? Is it the AIM-9Ms? It's be ok if it was at least fast, but being at 11.7 guarantees having to fly 25km to the battlefield in a slow, subsonic plane. This makes no sense whatsoever. I think I maybe have seen A-10C spawn in a handful of times over thousands of games I've played
the su-30 shows up as m29 on rwr, correct?
subslop attackslopers should go up in br
>>563964328someone should make a website that shows you all these thingscmon statshart do your fucking job
>>563964328Depends on which Su-30. Su-30MK2 and MKK, yes, Su-30SM and SM2 no, they are labeled as Su-30s (although the SM2 should really show up as the Su-35S as it uses its radar).
>>563964627i found one before asking but it was outdated>>563964872ah okay so it's the paypiggies that keep showing up as m29, thanks boss
No Anton, I will not buy stuff at 30% discount, ever.
>>563965321Pochemu?
>>563965321why not
I finally finished an entire air tree, am I allowed to buy my way into top tier now?
>>563965653Sure but top tier is gay and not fun.
>>563965751It may be gay but I find it pretty fun
>>563901197Yeah, anon, russian engineers don't know about other shapes for an IRST/EOTS enclosure even though they already did faceted IRSTs back in the M23, they don't have access to the internet to check other 5th gen images either. Faceting an IRST is some secret tech only special people like you have thought about.>>563901004Not necessarily. The IRST faces the other side when not in use, and that other side has heavy layers of RAM. They know about faceting so it was a conscious decision on not doing it like the F35/J20/J35 did, nor flushing it with the airframe like some sensors on the B2/21/F22. Whatever their criteria was, they think it's good enough. KF21 went the same route.Technically speaking, a sphere will always have some a specular reflection pointing back to the source -- but specular reflections are only a single parameter on RCS considerations. An X- or S-band, or even VHF EM waves do NOT behave like visible light does. There are a myriad of other effects which affect the energy being propagated back, and all of those must be considered when designing a stealth craft.The sphere vs faceting arguments come from an outdated way of doing stealth, nowadays design has shifted to a greater blend of techniques. Back in the F117 (also Have Blue, MBB Lampyridae) times computer power was way weaker than what we have today, and they had just limited PO + PTD understanding.In fact, for the F117 they had to do RCS calculations on a FACET by facet basis. Each 'triangle' you see on the F117 was calculated separately for specular bounces ALONE (PO), then some corrections for diffraction were done (part of edge treatment) through the equations from Ufimtsev's work. All of that had to be checked on anechoic chambers and real radar ranges for final validation.Back then, what they did was direct all energy away towards a selection of directions, which makes for gigantic RCS spikes if you ever saw a faceted design on a RCS graph. 1/X
>>563965653you were always allowed to, just now you should be the farmer instead of the farmed
>>563965624>>563965642Why would I pay more when I can simply wait and pay less?
Any news about the ass pass?
>>563965787Well I'm not stopping you. What's fun for me is not fun for thee, and vice versa.
>>563965896>trying to argue with "ruZZia le bad and stupid asiatic horde and can't do anything right" pigletsYou're just wasting your breath anon.
>>563965905Wait how long?
>>563966184this
>>563966184>everyone I don't like is a hohol!pot calling the kettle black lmao
>>563965896they clearly don't know since they don't do it
>>563965896very interesting
oplot my belovedwhat a wonderful tank
>>563966184these idiots spam the most nonsensical shit it's funny, they don't have a single clue how rcs works or what are s-ducts for and what makes a jet stealthy, it's like a child trying to enter a discussion without understanding how anything truly works.Just like i said, they don't understand why something is done, just blindly copy Russian stuff like they did with f35
>>563966584have you considered simply not attaching bait images to your shitty posts in order to attract more attention and outrage?
>>563966815many such cases!
seething, malding even
>>563966809like >>563961954 ?
>>563967162Fuck i used the One with the text underneath
>>563967003why are you insinuating that I am in favor of what I had just described as being shitty rage and interaction bait just because it isn't deleted?do you think I am the janny?
>russia>ram coatingpick one
>nooooooooooo why cant i spam dogshit images attached to dogshit posts and get away with it my actions shouldn't have consequences i didnt shit myself da ebil roozzians poured shit into my pants waaaaaaaaaaaaahlolmao
>>563967162>Complaining about 4chan (its policies, moderation, etc) on the imageboards may result in post deletion and a ban.
What's the explanation behind those contacts your radar sometimes picks that move at mach 20 and just go through the ground or fly off the screen? Like in actual engineering term behind them.
>>563967564false returns
>>563967525What anon said anyway?
oh boy another old timey chimpout in dubbyateegee
>>563967564aliens
>>563967745it means I don't want to post about the times I got banned for offending nafo fellas on this general
>>563967791in the infantry mode drones make them quite useless
>>563966184I get many people here are actually retarded and have not even read the basics such as 'ATF to F-22', but maybe other people can benefit from the info.>>563901004For modern designs, pure faceting went away in favor of curved shapes that approximate pure faceted forms -- from a desired angle. Check the F22 from the front, the curves approximate a faceted losangle, but it is still curved shapes making use of other techniques such as continuous curvature and continually changing radii. Those were impossible to calculate back in F117 times, and it is written in 'memoirs of my years at Lockheed' that LM would only begin to compute curved shapes in ~1986, before that they had to create curved shapes IRL and test the shapes' RCS manually on a radar range.Anyhow, the modern way of shaping an stealth plane is not purely concentrating super high RCS spikes in some selected directions (although that is still part of it), but rather doing an statistical analysis on an AREA or ARC of interest. As long as RCS on that selected area is below a threshold, it is good to go.That is, 'over these +-15 degrees from nose on, we don't want any signal over XX dbsm, use the next 10 degrees for all those reflections instead, then, all the way to 90 degrees sideways, keep the signal under YY'.An RCS graph for a 5th gens does not look like the F117's. In fact, rumour is the F-22's looks like a pair of butterfly's wings (likely with 4 bigger spikes). All simulations so far from commercial software agree to the butterfly shape. There are still a few bigger spikes from the planform alignment going on (almost all edges on sawtooth panels, leading edges, canopy cuts, rudder/stabilator edges, etc., on the F-22 are angled to a 42 degree angle, when you look from above).Btw, an image showing that even the F-22 has specular bounces (quite visible from the tip of the radome almost all the way to the top of the canopy, under visible light) 2/X
>read news>news talked about multiple ships>saw chimpout comingdamn, i should become fortune teller
>shi(t)psHaven't they got the hint yet?
>>563968010we don't actually know the front-average rcs of any 5th gen jet, am I right?
>>563968304Correct. All RCS numbers from tests/lab are secret. For all frequencies, for all aspects.We only have simulations, one document from the UK archives (referencing the frontal RCS for some aircraft, including the F-22, but the document dates from a time the Raptor wasn't in production yet -- likely the number was the program goal, which was met and/or surpassed), one document from Riccioni (where he concedes the F-22 indeed manages a bird size RCS, but only from the FRONT, at CO-altitude, and against enemy fighter radar, so X-band likely) and the quotes such as 'golf ball size', 'marble', 'pebble', and more recently 'smaller than a human hand' from the J35.From those 'pebble' quotes comparisons people have tried to calculate equivalent RCS spheres (the 0.0001m2 you see around the internet).Good as commercial software have become, we still don't know about RAM quality, RAS, and other details that influence RCS. What we can have from those is an idea of what the RCS general shape looks like (where to expect spikes and such), but the numbers aren't super reliable.3/X
>>563965624Potomu.
>>563969329Oh, there's also the T-50 patent, but IIRC it mentions a program goal for average RCS (0.1-1.0), which (again iirc) Sukhoi said they met/exceeded.
>>563969609can someone link it?
>>563969329>commercial softwareyeah it relies on vague 3d models which can be inaccurate. people discussed this on the forum
>missile is close to killing an enemy jet>he just crashes into the ground a microsecong before the missile reaches himName a worse feeling in this game
Anyone grinding for the paki plane?
>>563970156Yeah, I'm aware, I'm the one that posted that.
>>563970518should i?
>>563970556good
>>563970518yes sarr b-52 simulator drop many big bomb get much score so i become pakistan pilot and destroy india
>>563970771Probably not by the look of it
>>563970518Yes, but am trying to spade the Nig-29 (9-12) while doing so. It is not optimal because 12.7 br is orbital strike territory.
>>563970842At some point I was going to make 3d models of 5th gens based on photogrammetry or on gaussian splats (reconstructing a decent mesh on top, of course, since splats don't make 3d models by themselves), precisely because I saw no 3d models online that accurately depicted details such as that splitter plate -- I don't think the official game models will do it either, even with the pics I posted. From those 3d models I'd run simulations on Ansys. I gave up when I saw the costs for running simulations there (and licenses were also lmao wtf priced), besides, I thought it was just too much work just for Gaijin to ignore it.
>>563952583ass
M60A3 is my favorite vehicle. Quintessential glass cannon.
Welp, I guess to end my reply on stealth.Specular bounces are only part of the story, when designing stealth craft you have to consider other interactions from EM waves. When looking at EM/Object interaction things are generally divided into three categories: the Rayleigh region (waves larger than object), Mie regions (similar size) and the Optical region (waves smaller than object).Specularity happens mostly in the Optical region, but there are nuances such as the roughness of the surface, which can cause specular reflections to become diffuse scattering. Of course, engineers will play with that to avoid specular bounces.Planes can be divided into features, each reacting differently to different bands, and all that must be taken into account into the design goals. A rudder might be in the optical region for X-band radars, but might be in the Mie region for an L-band radar, causing resonance effects and thus being detectable on radar. A flying wing offers advantages in this by presenting less features for different bands to interact, and being larger, means you need larger EM waves to achieve resonance.Anyhow, from what the literature says, for the ATF/F22 program they were interested in X-band in the frontal arc, since that's what you'd face in an air superiority fighter. It's probably the same for the F35/J20/J35/SU57/KA21/Turkish 5th gen.There's plenty of books on the subject, if one cares.4/4
>>563972938>japan has the highest winrate but lowest kdsliteyechads cant stop winning it seems
>>563971575>I don't think the official game models will do it either, even with the pics I posted.you should get ready to post bug reports about inaccurate models when it comes out, in that case
>>563973938rcs will simply be based on direction the game already lags trying to calculate missile trajectories/thrust vectoring and you think they are gonna even attempt to model real 'stealth' ?
>>563969329Taiwan ran a simulation of the J-20's RCS a couple of years ago and in the best profile its a 5x5cm box. Now consider Taiwan is very interested in representing the mainland's aircraft in the worst form they can so a golf ball RCS is more than plausible.
>>563973875Thai doesn't have long rod penetrator and ERA.
>>563974156not stealth. just the visuals
>>563974235has there ever been a case where they changed the vehicle model aside from 10 year old updates?
The F/A-18C Early is dog shit?
>>563974369sort of? pt76 got its long-range fuel tanks removed and the ratels lost the spare wheel on the backbit of a stretch though
>>563974369f22 will be very popular
>>563974369Just this very update the J-10C got an engine swap.
>>563974192j-20 is slowly becoming a legacy airframegreat effort is being poured on the j-36 and j-50 by removing traditional flight control surfaces to achieve all aspect stealth
>>563974569did the model actually change or just the thrust curves?
>>563965896>Not necessarily. The IRST faces the other side when not in use, and that other side has heavy layers of RAM. They know about faceting so it was a conscious decision on not doing it like the F35/J20/J35 did, nor flushing it with the airframe like some sensors on the B2/21/F22. Whatever their criteria was, they think it's good enough. KF21 went the same route.protip: radar absorbent material has a rather minor effect. the radar signature of the su-57's IRST is hundreds of times higher than the entire frontal radar signature of an f-22
didnt the ching chong ping pon aircraft designer get whacked for lying about performance or what?
>>563975198What's visible of the engine is completely different. It used to look basically the same as the J-10A, just with a longer, slimmer nose.
Wwa sisters
>>563968010protip: there is no "pseudo-faceting" for a sphere. the su-57 IRST is not stealthy in any way. the entire aircraft design is unstealthy (hence the Sukhoi patent claiming an RCS ~1000x higher than the f-22)
>>563975359suppose they might actually change the model of the stealth jets if people moan enough then
>563975273good ragebait from a "ruZZia le bad and stupid asiatic horde and can't do anything right" piglet
>>563975747>>563966365
not War Thunder!offtopic!
>>563976107pot calling the kettle nigger.
>>563975273>radar absorbent materialThere's no evidence Russians have such thing considering how they paint the SU-57 with neon blue colorsRAM is incompatible with any and all paintjobs as 1. the graphene must be "exposed" and 2. the coating must be constantly maintained>but i saw a picture of x with crazy colors! You saw x without RAM coating that was painted for a special occasion
>>563976465they do have RAM, su-47 had itwhether they have painted any su-57s with RAM is another thing. i doubt they have ever used a su-57 in combat sorties despite what they say
>>563976465incredible levels of peremoga
>>563976465+0.1 hryuvna (0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001$)!
>>563976881that's funny cause that's almost double the value of RUB
>>563976881keeeeeek
>>563977349to pour some salt in the wound, the russian rouble is worth so little the russian federation is adopting the Chinese renminbi
>to pour some sa-
>>563979129jej it to be like that
migger time
>>563980769
>>563966584there's an FSBjanny on /vg/, don't bother arguing with russians they will cry to their government appointed janitor to win their argument
>>563981241literal food
>>563981543but the picture goes hard
>>563966584based janny deleting posts from the retard defending the current state of the BMPT
>>563981543still, one of the best looking planes
>>563951827This tbqh
>>563974459Not in itself, just that it is outclassed by everything it encounters. You'll be eating AIM-120s and R-77s before you come into range.
>>563976748It's peremoha! Reeeeeee!
>>563982937I see, even if I know what I'm doing somewhat, still a bad time? Kind of sick of Rank V USA makes me not want to play
have they reverted the Spitfire BR change yet or have people still not chimped enough
give China electric manned quadcopters
>>563983928why would the lf mk ix not go up? it's the best prop in the game by a rather large margin. should be 6.7
>>563985162hes talking about the mk24
>>563984769Aww, look at those miniature AGMs...
>>563984769come here so I can shoot you
>>563983536The way things play out are: either a braindead retarded flight straight and launch at whatever you can before the orbital strike platforms come online. Alternatively, you can use some brainpower and use terrain masking to try and approach from the sides to ambush whack a nigger, but by the time you get there, the BVR fight up above you is over already and if you're not on the winning side of that, all those fuckers above you are already scanning the ground looking for you. If you're on the winning side of it, your teammates are already mopping up.
>>563985278This is the second time this has happened. The Mk24 just performs well, so it keeps fluctuating. Sucks for GRB, but barely anyone plays the 6.7 lineup anyways.I'm a lot more mad about the 2005 VDM. I got it specifically for the Italian 6.0 GRB lineup, and performance wise it's more than a good chunk worse than the Spitfire LF Mk IX and Yak-3U.
>>563984769why do they get all the fun stuff?
>>563984769So when china isn't copying Russia they just get something like this
>>563976465Ram can be different, it doesn't have to be rusty gray shit loke mutts haveAgain, you don't really understand how any of this works so please stop embarrassing yourself
How come every book bangs on about the nazis developing combined arms with tanks and infantry working together even though the blitzkrieg was specifically tanks working on their own and it was british and french doctrine that stressed combining the infantry with tanks
>>563975657The patent has nothing to do with su57 and uses an arbitrary value for the radar absorbing grille performance illustration
>type 59 and 69 are the same BR despite one getting a dart that goes at mach fuck you with zero drop to account for and an LRF if you decide to use HEAT instead
>>563989991>The patent has nothing to do with su57Fellow BRICStrannies we're literally hanging ourselves on cope ropes
>>563989909take a look into who wrote those booksalso stop reading
>>563989909The british tank doctrine was really bad, from cavalry heritage making it the noble nepo baby factory to cruise tank doctrine.German tank doctrine united both tanks and very powerful panzergenadier and sapper components into one division
>>563990091You forgot to mention that the dart has 200mm of pen
>>563990140Again, you don't understand how patents and research work and what an illustration is because youre a 70iq pigger so please just stop embarrassing yourself No one will give you exact rcs in a document, it doesn't even state if it's frontal rcs or not, it's apparent to anyone with a triple digit iq, but you just keep posting it and looking like a retard
>>563916973>>563917208>>563917262And with the old events you were atleast guaranteed to get some fun low tier meme vehicle, now you get fucking nothing
>>563990342>Again, you don't understand how patents and research workYou're a 34-year-old obese autistic virgin that has never had a job. Everything you've ever written online has been pulled out of your ass. You would fit in more on reddit than 4chan.
>>563990447Why are you so defensive? Nothing to say about the fact that you're a retard who doesn't really understand what xe's talking about?
>>563990447>you do not fit in here
>>563990656>>563990342>>563989991sirs this patent detailing the technologies we implemented on the su-57 have nothing to do with the su-57 (( i am very intelegant and understand patents,, you are stupid dalit benchod
>>563990342truth nuke
>>563990656Annihilated that stupid ass lmao>>563990672He's so clueless
>>563990830>This grille can reduce rcs from 1m2 to 0.1m2>Rrrrrreeeeee that means su-57 rcs is 1m2 even though it's literally impossible given the shape and cross section size (2 main factors in rcs)Go read a book sis
huh?
>>563990091The dart is garbage that nobody uses.
>>563991324what? he derendered because you could no longer see him because you were dead and had no teammates that could see him
>>563991324>H-he's fast..!
>>563991048in planes without S-ducts, the engine intakes / compressor blades are the primary radar return.also, even just the engine nacelles would be a bigger radar return than sukhoi claims in that patent - the su-57's real radar return is undoubtedly similar to canardless flankersanyway, this patent is about the su-57. it is the only plane sukhoi makes which uses this feature. when they say "the aircraft" they are referring to the su-57. hence why they drew a su-57 there.
>>563989742>fire rocket straight into the back of the cockpitoh come on
how stealth aircraft (aka: not BRICStranny rivet-covered junk) do IRST.easy.
>>563991650The patent is about the grille, again, you don't really understand how it works, you never dealt with patents and research, you probably don't even have college degree >the su-57's real radar return is undoubtedly similar to canardless flankersPhysically impossible, go read a book dumbass nigger
>>563991832how a country with a GDP lower than Texas, most of which is funneled to corruption and lavish mansions, does stealth
Ok?
>>563991832Doesn't really matter if your plane is rusty and cracking like most f35s are
>>563991981>The patent is about the grille,the grille is a feature on one of sukhoi's aircraft, the su-57, aka the aircraft they show in the patent. aka the same aircraft they're talking about when they say "We developed this grille to reduce the aircraft's RCS to 0.1 - 1.0 m^3"you're probably illiterate like a lot of brown people, which is ok, just don't write your opinions online. do something brown like standing around a mall with a loudspeaker
>>563992163Shut the fuck up. I did four years in college. You are a fucking retarded faggot who doesn't know what he's talking about.
>>563992156But you are aware this plane has been months at sea? RAM coating gets replaced.
>>563992156thats fine im sure theres another batch of 100 ready to goremind us how many su57s there are?
>>563992156The difference is that the F-35s can get their RAM coating reaplied whereas the Su-57 is rusty and cracking by default.
>>563992029Money can't buy brains and american military is the evidence
>>563989909The fuck are you saying? Blitzkrieg is absolutely not about singly tanks. It's about bringing a maximum combined arms force to encircle and destroy sections of the front. Aviation is paramount to the doctrine for instance.
>>563991832>>563992029>>563992156Is this a moth catcher?
america won't be laughing when our BRICS exosuits and su-57s fly into their country and destroy them
Damn mutts are assblasted
I have spaded every rank 1 ground vehicle in the game, Anton should give me a medal.
>>563992310You'd know then that an illustration without direct reference isn't considered oneNo, chicano studies isn't a degree
What set him off?
>the BRICStranny is so confused it's arguing with itself
kangaroo
>bricsbricsbricsbricsMental illness
>>563992643lol
>>563975273>>563975657I find that unlikely, you're assuming one thing that isn't a given, and one thing that isn't true: that the dome behaves as a near ~PEC material, and that specularity rules RCS for spheres. That IRST dome, even when facing forwards, is likely dieletrically matched to X-band through coatings (reminder that the SU57 canopy was said to contain at least 10 different layers of special materials), while of course being transparent to IR.Even if it were PEC, at the Optical region a sphere's RCS starts behaving as ~=pi*r*r -- not because of specularity, as only a very small portion of a given sphere points their normals at you (one, technically). On a 'pure' sphere, the biggest RCS contributor are creeping waves: EM energy that travels along the surface until they irradiate through whatever means. On the SU57, this is again not a given, as the IRST sits in front of that weird tunnel containing part of the mechanisms, and that can act as a EM creeping wave diffractor. The change from transparent dome to the backside could cause diffraction.Anyhow, if that IRST dome is 15/20cm in diameter, that's a ~0.0177/0.0314m2 RCS (reminder, as a PEC material). Far from that 'hundreds of times higher' claim than the 0.001 claimed around -- but 5th gens aren't made all of metallic aluminum panels like 4th gens were, there are composite panels on those skins, tuned lossy materials that can damp creeping waves. My point is we don't really know and most of the SU57 talks are just hatred and F22 blind fanboyism.As a note: the UK doc puts the F-22 RCS (frontal) at 0.01m.
>>563976465>>563976465Russians know about RAM, RAS, S-ducts, edge treatment, matching impedances, continuous curvatures, curves with changing radii, flat nozzles and so on. All of that has been public knowledge for decades. They've been toying with stealth concepts for decades. Some of the F117 parts from that wreckage were also said go on to Chinese and Russian hands, so they would know about those RAM (iron ball / early ferrites).Personally I lean on the F22 being stealthier for practical reasons, not theoretical ones, as the general knowledge on stealth is available nowadays.
>>563993394It's one of the retards who would claim with a straight face that su-57 is about as stealthy as an f-18 (you know, that reddit myth where xe sent me 2 posts ago)
>could build almost 4000 super heavy bombers in 4 years in the 1940s (not counting the other lighter bombers and fighter aircraft)>can barely build 1 bomber per year in the 2020s
>>563993661yep
>>563993586They clearly don't know since they don't put such knowledge into practice
>>563993394your entire post is ChatGPT vomit for "b-but the IRST has radar absorbent material on it"not only is that only true when it's facing backwards, but it also has very little effect. radar absorbent material is for enhancing a design which has stealthy geometry, not for magically turning an unstealthy design into a stealthy one. you can't prevent a 10MW radar spotlight from frontally illuminating a sphere just by painting it dark. the su-57 is an unstealthy design, sukhoi has said so themselves, its designers have said so themselves, they have always said stealth was a secondary concern
>>563993586>Russians know about RAM, RAS, S-ducts, edge treatment, matching impedances, continuous curvatures, curves with changing radii, flat nozzles and so on. All of that has been public knowledge for decades.Russia doesn't implement any of that for the same reasons that countries like Korea and Turkey didn't on their fighters: they are poor
>>563994281>F22's canopy & F-35 EOTS don't have any treatmentK, whatever floats your boat.
>>563991324Every country in the world belong to America.
>>563994624>F-35 EOTSIt has great stealth geometry where all the angles are aligned with the airframe's own. Russia didn't do this because the Su-57 isn't a stealth design. 1000x higher RCS than the f-22 by Sukhoi's own admission.
>>563994281Are you aware that they've been putting RAM coating on 4th gens for decades now?
>>563994825>aligned with the airframe'sNah, it's just a faceted design, which according to you, can't be stealth because there's no such thing as doing treatments such as impedance matching in transparent surfaces. All EM waves are going in and reflecting into those parts inside, freely. The edges there are also not diffracting EMs at all.I mean, like other people said, go read a book.
>>563995184>Are you aware that they've been putting RAM coating on 4th gens for decades now?some of them, particularly the ones which are modestly geometrically stealthy (enough that it justifies the cost of RAM)anyway there is no downside besides the cost, so why not?
ngl this intellectual gigachad vs coping plebbitor discussion is fucking amazing
>>563995191>Nah,you have no clue what you're talking about and are vomiting chatGPT replies into the threadpost hidden
>>563995439KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK
>>563995439OH NO NO NO
>>563995639really good post
Vehicles for this feel? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBZ18JfKIsg
>>563995279The effect of RAM coating obviously must outweigh the cost then.
>>563996043entirely depends on how much money you have.anyway, it won't make an unstealthy plane into a stealthy one, if that's what you're coping at. you can not put RAM on a su-27 and think it will win a radar fight against an f-22.
>>563996043Mutts have shit ram coating so they have to frequently recoat it because it rusts after a minute of contact with salty sea airRussians just make better ram coating so they don't have to, that's sreally what it's aboutmuricans basically stole Russian stealth research without understanding the basics
>70iq mentally retarded ukrainian refugee is struggling to understand very basic engineering concepts, let alone patent documentationhow do those "people" breathe?
>>563966365
>>563996837keeeek
>>563996837>how do those "people" breathe?A lot of them don't anymore.
>this image causes 50 pages of crying + seething from internet communistsgegimagine worshiping a country poorer than Texas
>>563997120KEKAROO
does anyone know a custom skin creator that takes commissions?
>>563996172Will a RAM coated Su-57 win a radar fight against an uncoated F-22?
>>563998587>Will a RAM coated Su-57 win a radar fight against an uncoated F-22?no, geometry is king.just the IRST on the su-57 alone would make it impossible to win that.
I haven't seen anything about the F16 PoBIT so I assume it's shit and has the same problems as the other F16s
>>563999263>the same problems as the other F16sAnd the problems are?
>>563999336low missile count
>>563999432Too small to carry such loads.
>>563998701Then why put RAM on the Typhoon that has IRST?
>>564000110because you'd rather have it than not have it?i feel like you're actually low-functioning from some of these questions
>>563999525f2a
>>564000228That's how leading questions work. Thank you for your time.
>That's how leading questions work. Thank you for your time.
cope
>>564000110I don’t think the Typhoon has RAM but rather its composite construction is massively helping with reduced radar signature. Iirc only from Tranche 5 on its using RAM coating.
>full uptier to 8.7>my team is 11 7.7s and 4 b-52s>enemy team is a bunch of 8.7 fighters and a pair of bears
>>564003021First time?
Can we please get the BR changes already -__-I'm itching to play some 10.3 without perpetual uptiers into the Terminatorland
>>563966636Yep, a true marvel.
>>564010064ajax ancestor
>>564009392Where are the BR changes for ASB?
>>564010131Hyhyls exported their secrets you think?
>>564010174Does literally anyone play sim
>>564012159It's probably the most popular it's ever been.
BMPT should be 16.7
>move thing up in br>nerfedYeah, great nerf. Other game devs should take notes on how to nerf things from this company.
Better yet:>move thing up>also move most played things it faces up>matchmaking is exactly the same
>>563970518I mostly play air anyway so might as well, easy enough
>>563999263It's shit and the amount of missiles is the main drawback. The current air RB meta (which is just a copy of the sim meta) is fucking AIDS and doesn't help the PoBIT either.
I swear, every time I go to the "see also" section on a random aircraft wiki page there's some French bullshit that looks like this. Did Fance get all the reject scientists from Germany after the war?
i close my eyes and i hear the pinging sound of dnestr radar infront of me in my station in Irkutsk siberia and war thunder doesnt existlife is good
>>564018106Not only Vichy French worked with Nazis, but the Free French were designing tanks under occupation.
when are they fixing iron dome meta
Could the f-84 REALLY mount 50kg bombsit seems so comically useless for anything, even training, since you'd be using a much bigger bomb for a real mission so it wouldn't teach you about the weight or aiming it
>>564021463Sorry, you'll just have to work for your meal.
>>564022383When you're engaging hordes of yellow insects two 100lb bombs are better than nothing
>>564022383https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news/2020/june/19/200619-hms-collingwood-pauses-to-remember-wartime-bombing
>>564022383i think the pylons are just universal for any non-special bombs under a certain weight
ppl talk about the gay testicle on the fuselage but no one has addressed the elephant in the room
>>564024170The Su-47 is stealthier than this.
>>564024170The Mig-25 is stealthier than this.
>>564024170Prigozhin's casket is stealthier than this.
>>564024170>>564025348>>564026737>>564027418>Anonymous 04/18/26(Sat)23:15:06 No.564027I don't get it.
>>gonk is that trve?
woah the 27SM got powercrept so hard
>ufo with the best 13.7 radar and missiles is powercrept
>dogshit base flanker radar vs AESA unitskek!
Comet BVRAAM for Rafale when?
>3 days for next battle ass>no newsdid they finally give up?
>>564030392nah they'll just conflate 3 devblogs into one as last time
>mission bombing points don't appear on the map>if they're too far away they don't even show up when stationary on the runway
>>563998587No, missiles and radar are king, su57 will see and fire much better missile much earlier
at least this bait is funny
>>564036356No, the IRST is king. They wouldn't be able to detect each other until they're within fox 2 range.
>>564037048Su57 can with it's gigaradar, f22 yeah it can't detect su57
>>564037573>f22 cant detect su57 with its giga radarkangaroo
>>564037708the left can't meme
who the fuck is "the left" and why did they leave him
>mfw I got a 3 air target, 4 ground target gun run in the Su-25
>>564018106There was a lot of contact between Nazi and French engineers. Your pic was actually designed by a Nazi Austrian engineer named Helmut Zborowski. The Dornier aircraft company, which created many bangers like the Do 335, was created by an ethnically French engineer, Claude Dornier. Nazi wunderwaffe had a lot of French influence:>Ladungsträger Goliath tracked mineThis was based on a WW1 land drone that the French were developing (Adolphe Kégresse)>Englandkanone V-3 CannonThis was based on a WW1 French multi-chambered cannon that the Nazis captured>UranvereinA lot of early fission research came from French scientists like Frédéric Joliot-Curie. The Nazis probably wouldn't have discovered fission without their work.After WW2, the French had their own version of Operation Paperclip. Former Nazi scientists helped France develop ATGMs like the SS.10 and the SS.11 (the RakJPz 2 uses this) and the Dassault Mirage was heavily influenced by Nazi jet propulsion scientists.
Is there a better feeling in this game than killing someone with a smug/cocky name?
>>564042545killing someone in a superior vehicle who shit talked you
>they nerfed the S-25OsFaggot devs can't let me have fun for once.
>>564042545Killing a youtuber.
>>564042545Killing Oxy / Furfagston
>>564042545oh also killing the same guy five times was pretty nice
How is the US ground branch from 1.0 to 6.0? I've always wanted to try out WW2 US. Do they suffer as much as people say they do?
Imagine how satisfying it would be killing them irl
>>564044704Shermans are the most retard-friendly WW2 medium tank.
>>564046543Except the cast hull ones, they suck so bad. Literally geometrically impossible to angle.
I just got the F-15E and in ARB I noticed when I launch all twenty GBU-39s towards howitzers, half of them seem to go haywire and fly around randomly. I use the Sniper pod too.
>>564046938racism is not allowed on /vg/
Where can you check the current Air Sim BR brackets? I want to spade a 14.0 jet but two rotations in a row 14.0 has been the bottom BR of the 14.0-14.7 bracket and I don't know if I can just wait and get a more favorable bracket or if it isn't getting any better and I'm just wasting my time waiting for a more favorable bracket that doesn't exist.
>>564047395Brackets are usually set, although I somehow found a 7.7-8.7 session a few days ago and I can't explain itwhen you select air simulator battles in the bottom left there should be a room list button, use that
have they added the south america tree yet? I'm not going to reinstall to play a game with only bad guys
is there really a great difference between the AAM-4 and AIM-120 at this moment?does it still pull better?
