Battlefield Tactics Edition>Previous>>563807271>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 crossplay, co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC, PS5 and XBox Series X/S where players fight against hordes of alien insects, robots and squids to Spread Democracy™. Players wage war on contested planets, each with a different biome, completing as many objectives as possible in a procedurally generated level while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful missions, a planet can be defended or liberated, and the player base must combine their efforts as much as possible to Liberate™ the galaxy.https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/helldivers-2/9mx9wn9dfpgt>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is a shared screen top-down shooter in the same setting. Its mechanics were based primarily on Arrowhead's first game, Magicka.https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/>LOBBY HOSTINGhttps://files.catbox.moe/83ixkr.png>MODDINGhttps://files.catbox.moe/c81ogo.png>INFORMATION RESOURCEShttps://helldivers.wiki.gg/https://helldiverscompanion.com/https://democracy-hub.nethttps://helldive.live>MAJOR NEWSFeb 10 Machinery of Oppression https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj5JS68ny14Mar 17 Entrenched Division https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3zP5GWoQi0Mar 17 Roadmap https://twitter.com/helldivers2/status/2033907671036743796Mar 20 Uncover the Truth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn_uyAaJ3Z0>LATEST PATCHESMar 17 1.006.100 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/541133047968301984Mar 25 1.006.101 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/507356684541232939Apr 14 1.006.102 (PS5 Low Energy Mode and XBox fixes)
>>563921945I wish this game was actually worth autistic roleplaying like this. As it is, seeing stuff like this is just pathetic.
>>563921945>suspected augmentationsI don't understand
>>563922253pssh... it's top secret and requires black veil clearance anon, no one really knows what he has... baka
>>563920246That's the neat part, it wasn't.Even if you plopped down an AT Emplacement, which at the time was the only reliable way to shoot them down, it was a matter of luck whether or not it would blow up your chair before you got off enough shots to kill it. Sure, you could put down the shield bubble to protect yourself, but sinking two stratagem slots for something that didn't even give you any meaningful reward, wasn't the smartest way to play. So, for a lot of people, they fought them the same way they do now: you just hide behind buildings and wait for it forget you exist, and try to path your way around the map such that you get spotted by them as little as possible.
>>563921945cringe AI slop
SWEET LIBERTY!!!*INHALES*M'LEEEEEGGGG!!!
>>563922342Just limiting the number of leviathans that can spawn in a mission would go a long way. That way anyone who wants to dedicate themselves to hunting them can do so and it would actually be a benefit to the team.
Those stripped of the Grace of Gold shall all be raped. At the tip of Messmer's Cock.
>>563922672I think all helldivers would benefit from doing a few basic leg stretches before missions. Quad stretches, calf stretches, inner thigh and groin stretches, hamstring stretches, the possibilites are limitless. I think we could reduce M'LEEEG injuries by at least 30% if all helldivers were to do these stretches on the destroyer before dropping. That way you won't cramp up when you're running away from a hundred bugs.
>>563922846How many samples for that upgrade?
>>563922952Its in the Halo Warbond. Your Helldiver spams teabagging before every mission to get leg injury immunity
>>563922846the only stretching I'm doing is stretching out leandivers (female)
>>563922846the only stretching i'm doing is stretching out leandivers (male)
>>563921896Siege breakers, servants of freedom, dust devils, control group, democratic demolition and just got urban legends What sold me on buying it was supply pods having guns on em, those things saved my ass a few times when teammates brought em and I don’t have many good boosters>>563921654You’re wrong and brown, roadblock is cool and funnily enough I was talked outta spending my super shekels on cinderblock since I’d get more bang for my buck with the full warbond, the only superstore items that interest me are the Krieg or Jin Roh helmet The passive is great but l*ght armor is ass and I kept getting ragdolled by squiggers
if u show any sort of preverted behavior in my lobbyyoure getting shot on the spoti cant stand preverts
>>563923215Why do you hate french poets?
>>563923215good thing i'm a postvert
>>563923287>>563923278this is an example of deviant behavior that callsfor negative feedback
>>563923339how do you plan to punish my bad behavior if I'm in your lobby and I only act postverted and not preverted?
>>563923409get lost with this schizoid maneuvering youre not fooling anybody you deviant
>>563923090>>563923139Good to see so many health-conscious helldivers here. We cannot allow the enemies of democracy to stretch us, rather, we must all stretch one another, preferably in one-on-one sessions in the super destroyer gym.
>Everybody excited for the Mechbond because the assumption is the pilot armors will have a passive related to Exosuits>mfw the passives are just some shit like "improved accuracy and reload speed of SMGs"
>>563924017It really depends on whether they outsourced or not, doesn't it?
>>563922693Their problem right now is that they're in a terrible inbetween state where they're simultaneously too strong for one person to deal with reliably, while also being so numerous and unrewarding to kill that it's easier to just avoid them and use the skyscrapers to avoid their fire. Not only do they stand a very good chance of despawning before you can actually kill them, rendering all of the firepower you spent on them wasted, but the moment one despawns another takes its place so you have to start all over again.I'm fine with them being infinite spawns like Vox Engines, but they need to persist on the map until killed just so that you don't end up wasting firepower when they despawn, and killing one should force a cooldown timer that prevents another from spawning for a while (something like a 5 minute grace window, increasing in duration at lower difficulty levels). That way, killing one is rewarding in that it's one less Leviathan that's going to be harassing you for a while.
>>563916015>protect lgbtq identitiesKommisarKai has the best trans representation. I stopped watching him when he had a stint of like five videos in a row of him cutting to live commentary and almost every time there was a very obvious mtf transgender dude in the cutaway clips and they would make the least funny sex jokes and innuendos humanly possible then laugh at them in a manner that sounds like a 30 year old man trying to sound like a fifteen year old princess holding a hand over her mouth while she giggles.
sex mechs
>>563924069when was the last time they didn't outsource?
>>563924069The outsourcing extends to the models, textures and animations AFAIK. All implementation, damage numbers, passives etc. are handled by AH.
>>563916015What, did you think that a big YouTube personality would somehow be anti-LGBTQ? You do know that that type of mentality only exists in places like here and Twitter, right? Anyone with any meaningful presence on YT or Twitch is going to actively avoid associating with anyone with that sort of mindset because it's an easy way to get cancelled and lose viewers/subscribers.
The blob is doing it again
>>563924069>tfw the outsource jeets are more competent than the swedes
>>563922342Because you fags keep forgetting smoke exist. One stratagem and one nade slot, its nothing to be able to take down 3-4 of these fuckers.
>>563925516they outsource to another swedish dev down the street actually, so its jeets either way
>>563925380>give enemies overwhelming advantages>give players basically no means to coordinate>punish players for not coordinatingI genuinely can't imagine that there is a single person who finds the galactic war engaging
>>563925808>punishWhat exactly did you lose faggot?
>>563925878Izzat, you fucking moron
>>563925878MedalsIzzatMy wrist watch (inside your whore mother)
>>563925878>What exactly did you lose faggot?Let me TK you over and over. You don't lose anything, right, faggot?
>>563925609you don't take smoke, you take strafing so you can drop it in one to two runs
>>563922952>400 Common samples and 30 super samples to install a super gym in your super destroyer
Redpill me on the Stoker
>>563927786Most versatile SMG in the game, but you need to use both the gun and the underbarrel to make the most of it.
>>563927786cool idea but the rate of fire is too fucking slow. Just bring the torcher or a better SMG.
>line up eagle strafe on stingray for air-to-air strikenothing feels better my fucking god
>>563922846Sounds like tranny shit but your shoe size deceives you, ywnbaw.
I miss the days when sfm animators would be all over popular IPs, using the hurtsound_light.sfx and sprint_start/sprint_stop.sfx as grunts of exertion for their animations. Voice 1 and Voice 3 are perfect for it.
Post your top 5 primaries>Liberator>K***t>breaker>one-two>sickle
>still no warbondhack companyshit game
>>563927971I prefer doing that to leviathans>wide open street>throw it right behind its tail as it faces me>it eats the entire strafe and dies instantly>barely dodge it as it fallsActual kino
>>563928057EruptorPunisher PlasmaDiligenceYoteHalt
>>563928057>Trident>Trident>Eruptor>2x freedom>Lib Carbine
>>563928207You're right that's even better
>>563924173If you ever watched a mandalore stream, him drunk and he acts exactly the same with the acting like a teenage girl, Extremely off putting and gay.
>>563927974spoken like a true fatbody who's never lifted a weight in his life
>>563928057EruptorYolo x 4
>>563928057liberatorliberator penetratorliberator carbinetenderizersta-52
>>563927974>basic stretches for health>tranny shitat this rate, dieting is going to be tranny shit
>>563928404I dunno man, every exercise he just mentioned is all women focus on and troons who aren't poverty stricken autists. Just from what I see.
>>563928491liberator concussive instead of sta-52 actually
>>563925380Don't care, diving bugs
>>563928541stretching before workouts is standard practice if you're not a total retard
>>563928531>losing weightwhat are you doing?trying to look like a twink?trying to look all cute like a T***** huhlelet me seepos tpics now
>>563928663I just lift and smoke, and get enough stretching walking my border collies for 2 hours in the morning and evening. Also you should stretch everything, not just legs.
>>563928057TenderizerScytheDominatorKnightPurifier
Jesus christ. Unironically I'm telling you now if you're not doing basic workouts or at least some physical activity at least twice a week you really should. This isn't even me calling you fat or anything, it should just be the baseline of human existence that you're not sitting around all day. Go through stretches for 10 minutes every day, take walks or hikes, carry a backpack full of weight if you want to. Just make yourself sweat, exert yourself. You don't want to end up like a fat old boomer whose knees don't work because they spent their life eating slop and sitting on their ass. You can look up basic stretches very easily online, there are tons of guides for it. It only takes a little bit of your time to do them and the benefits are great. It's especially useful if you have back pain to strengthen your core, your back, and your legs. Exercising those muscles can help out a lot with that. Be healthy anons, don't ignore your body.
>>563928776I agree man, but you may have noticed that the post was a joke in reply to M'LEEGGG so it's only leg stretches mentioned
Slow day huh.So, about the planetside 2 armor...
>Host is actually scouring the map for POIs and bunkers while the rest of us are fighting off squids trying to clear extractWhy are they like this? You can do that shit in D1
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242286230233/76561199108851031d10 whatevs
>>5639293573/4
>>563928057>MA5C>Adjudicator>Reprimand>Sweeper>Censercenter massing is fun, and Censer is fun for occasional stealth
>>563928057>Purifier>Liberator>Censor>Diligence>ScytheThey aren't ranked in any particular order but the Scythe is probably my least favorite of my favorites. Still love it though.
>>563929024Stretching is so gay, I just want to move heavy things.
>>563928057Sta-52ConstitutionPummelerLiberator carbineTorcher
>>563929357full
>>563929832BASED ALERT
>>563929550>got her C-01 as soon as she turned 18 slut
>>563927786Stupidly flexible and very strong on all fronts.>very high damage per round, enough to one-shot Devastators with headshots if you're close enough>decently good ergonomics, so even with bulky addons it's not going to feel anywhere near as sluggish as the One-Two>fairly strong ammo reserves, provided that you utilize both modes>the flamethrower is a free underbarrel Crisper, which is good for handling targets that the bullet mode struggles against>one-handed trait gives you fire-while retreating capability as well as handling objectives while retaining firepower>>563928057PurifierDeadeyeK***htEruptorSickleIn no particular order.
how can I sleep soundly when I don't even know how many sleeps until the next warbond
>>563929749Caring about what other people think is what's gay, so do your stretches if you don't want to get injured lifting. Lifting for appearances is gay, lifting for health is not.
>>563924017>>mfw the passives are just some shit like "improved accuracy and reload speed of SMGs"Finally, an armor made for me specifically
>>563929550why is she a class E citizen?
>>563929550gloves shouldn't have fingernails
>>563929992skin color
>>563929992Because I wouldve made it class F but E is the minimum you can be to become a Helldiver
>>563929956I don't care what other people think, I care about the fact that I think stretching is gay. And I don't mean it's some kind of internalised homophobia, only retards have that problem, I just don't want to do it, I want to lift instead. Also, you are gay. A faggot in fact.
>>563930163lol whatever man, you're only screwing yourself over not doing it because you have some retarded idea in your head about it being gay. I'm giving advice, it's up to you if you want to listen to it or not
>>563930163>>563929956Sounds like you two should stretch each other.
>>563930286I'd be glad to show anon some of my favorite stretches but I doubt he's near me.
>>563929024spoonfeed me a regimen and I'll do it
>>563929992She's a stinking clanker
>>563929941it's time traveling
Spoiler alert: We're going to lose Hort, then the whole sector with Rogue 5, RD-4 and Hesoe prime will fall into the void.Are we excited?
>>563930659oh my god who the hell cares
>>563929249>complaining about free medals and SCAre you so bad at the game, you desperately need a 3rd teammate to wipe your ass or are you just brown and swedish?
>>563924173I did the same thing as that guy. While I didn't get muted or anything as I hid my power level, about 25% of the people in the lobbies were mentally ill.You know what I mean when I say "the voice". There also seems to be this attitude of elitism and like they know it all, but without the competence to justify it. I'd rather play with Chinese pubs at this point.
>>563930965We're leaving retardbro all the objectives are already done.>Caring about medals and 10 SCsWhat are you a poorfag
Whenever I play while watching my nephew I make him do the arrow puzzles so his brain grows stronger
>>563930797After learning about the upcoming movie I became even more excited to see the kind of story arrow head masterfully crafts
What do you ACTUALLY want to see out of the movie?
>>563931645>implying arrowhead is going to have any say in what the movie is likeI'm honestly not sure who would do a shittier job between hollywood and arrowhead. Actually, let the swedes make it, hollywood would definitely do a worse job, as hard as it is to believe.
>>563931729I want to see nothing out of the movie, I don't want it to exist at all, I know it will be shit.
>>563931645the helldiver movie font is glitteryit is beyond OVER
>>563931218I will get those free SC because I won't give more money to the lazy incompetent swiggers.
>>563931729We're definitely getting a montage of famous celebs getting ripped apart one by oneByebye Keanu
I just heard a rare voiceline from a female diver that was something like>There's too many of them!in a panicking voice. Wonder what triggers that
>>563931729cancellationnationwide recalls/refundsthe ending credits
>>563932078As one of the richest brahmin it is my pleasure to support the sirs making Helldivers 2 a beautiful game
>>563932086>Normie Redditor idea
>>563932450Its the obvious free space on the movie bingo card
>>563932527The Helldivers movie should follow in the footsteps of the movie that inspired it. Function as a fun action movie irl but work as a propaganda film in the games universe.Killing off celebrities just because thinking people would shit blood laughing so hard is a delusional Swedish fantasy. Helldivers works best when people ignore Arrowhead and portray Helldivers as heroes. Not the "wacky" and "zanny" "LOOK HE DIED!!! XDDD!!!" shit arrowhead insists the game is about.
It appears you are losing.
>>563931787this desu
>>563932728like I give a fuck
>>563932870>Manually clicked the post>Manually put that gif in>Manually typed out the reply>Manually completed the captchaSour Grapes.
>>563932728Who cares it's just an excuse to expand the Gloom: la luz extinguido edition
>>563932919all of which took 20 seconds max and was me being interested in replying to your post and not that we're "losing" some fake bullshit story that's rigged anyway, here's another (You)
>>563933056See: >>563932919
oh, gucciniggers is back from his 3 day I guess LOL
uh oh guccinigger melty
>Anon tries to convince everyone how much he doesn't care about something by telling everyone how much he doesn't care about somethingThe grapes...... they are sour....
>>563932104out of ammo/stims and hurt?
>>563929357ggs retards. try shooting each other less tho.
>>563929357GGs
>>563929357ggz frens
>>563933794what the fuck did you do to me
>>563933871>>563933794get lean diver'd idiot
Are there any use cases for uncharged Epoch shots? Like can it 1 shot gunship engines or hulk heads?
>>563934251You cant fire it uncharged. Up to a certain charge point it just cancels the shot.
>>563934357I obviously meant the ones that aren't fully chaged you pedantic homosexual
>>563932639The Fast n the Furious guys are kinda behind itExpect the intro to be a blood filled cameo festAt the very least I hope we get a curveball from whoever the main character is like in "1917"Im sure we'll get some message about being an order following chud but I wouldn't expect anything deepWith Street Fighter being considered funslop I just want a dumbass rompIm the bad guy
>>563934509it can 1 tap a bot trooper
>>563934509Then say "low charge Epoch Shots", silly anon.
>>563934251finish off hulks already hit with a full charge
>>563932728Fuck you Joel, the weekend divers are here and you're going to be very sorry
>>563934626>helldivers start winning>deploy ze bug strategic opportunitynothin personnel
Epoch is for cock and balls torture enthusiasts
bros... I'm starting to like the pacifier...
>>563935102Does it like you back?
>>563935102bro is 8 months old
>>563935102A fan of the Bill Cosby method on squids I take it
bro is learning to walk (bugdive)
bro wants uppies (he picked the jump pack)
The spawn rates of obtruder swarms is extremely frustrating, and their pathfinding or their ability to always zone in on you even if you're not moving is a pain in the ass. Not to mention a shotgun blast to the face doesn't always kill them.
>>563935613Use high volume of fire weaponry. A machine gun or minigun can effortlessly spray them down. Bullet dog and MG sentries do it at 0 attention cost.
I want to see a 4 diver conga line of team reloads with the last guy having a supply packJust constantly linked together like the beatles
>>563935613>frustrating >noun>An act of hindering someone's plans or efforts.Frustrating you is their purpose.
>>563935232I laughed
Here to say fuck swiggers
>>563936323meeben mree?
>>563936054Fuck off squigger
>robot with laser gun is le frustratingmaybe balancing is shit
>>563935102It's actually good on Appropriators
>>563935102I only found the Pacifier tolerable if you pair it with the gundog or firedog to do the actual damage dealingAnd that's really being damned by faint praise
is the HMG just a better pick over the autocannon against Appropriators? It seems to have a similar time to kill if you do sustained fire even on the 'cranium' (top of main body i mean, preferably near the shield generator) but a HMG means you can take a supply backpack (or another backpack if you prefer but HMG is ammo hungry.Benefits of the autocannon over HMG are you can switch to flak, and they seem to stagger the gangly arm mechs which is its own reward since its fun to see visual feedback when you shoot something, and it feels a bit more accurate than HMG.But... HMG is good for clearing obtruders, overseers so I don't know. Either are good picks but I'm starting to see the value of the HMG (I pair it with the plas-1 scorcher for closer enemies, which also synergises with the supply pack since scorcher is also ammo hungry.
>1100 SC from farms>$10 worth of xbox pointsNext 2 warbonds are on me, boys
>>563941272I think so. My luck with the flak hitting correctly on them is not good, unlike bots.
>>563941272Yes, like all recent AH designs Appropriators are explosive resistant so the HMG is a better choice. I'm pretty sure flak mode is better on the AC for them too.Though the MMG, Maxigun and even LC are better picks than the HMG imo.
does having more players in the lobby increase enemy spawns?
>>563942545yes, especially on bots. barely spawns any solo but 3-4 players there's much more of them
>>563942545Yes. Not linearly. If your team is run divers you'll have more to kill.If your team is kill divers your kill count will be lower compared to solo.
Played D8 with some level 30sThose guys were competent as fuckMaybe I'M the shitter publet
>>563941272My experience is different.AC is far more ammo efficient and much more versatile, sure it can get overwhelmed if the team isn't pulling its weight, but the ability to stagger the heavies also makes for a relatively easy disengage.The flak-mode vs the crabs works great if you hit the legs I find. Shooting center of mass feels like a coinflip. Sometimes it's 2-3 shots other times it just won't die.I suppose HMG has the benefit of being able to be paired with crutch-packs.
>mecha squids are explosive immune>AC flak is explosive with random shrapnel>AC aphet is primarily projectile dmghow are you having a better time with flak than normal shots?
>>56393750It isn't. Its magasize size holds it back for chaff clear along with the dogshit damage output, and muh stuns isn't worth the downsides (standard amount of spare mags, low damage, low capacity)
>>563941295please just look for high level Chinese players on D1 bug planets. Please.
pacifier is pretty good on robosquids ngl
>>563944931meant for >>563937507
Did you know harvesters hate getting their toenails clipped?
>>563945326I knew they hated it but I didn't think they hated it this much. Will do.
>>563941272>>563942352doesn't flak explode mid-air like a smidge before the actual impact? I thought it did, that's how ABRL works, and it explains why it sucks at hitting weakpoints (like harvester shield horns, which go down in like 2 HMG or MMG bullets). I think APHET is the better pick for everything but fleshmobs or packs of voteless, but irregardless, the HMG absolutely fucks. For appropriators, Plasma Punisher (for packs of drones, overseers, and sometimes even just blasting into the mechs) with HMG or commando has worked great for me.
>>563928057ScorcherEruptorAdjudicatorPunisher PlasmaSweeper.
I have to say it's genuinely funny how unpopular squid MOs are
>>563941272I avoid the HMG because I don't have that armor yet that adds an extra clip because god only three clips sucks balls
>>563945326holy FUN
>>563946419It still wrecks with B-01, it's just nice to have the extra mag sometimes. Not mandatory at all.
>>563945326this shit isn't even listed on the wiki
>>563946419On city maps you can find enough ammo to make do alright, just pair it with a reliable primary, and only use it for the big enemies and it's no problem at all really. If you're really hurting, setting it to a lower fire rate is an option, or just pair it with supply pack and something cheesy like an ultimatum and it'll work great.
>>563945326OH NO NO NO, ARROWHEAD WILL BUFF THEIR TOE TO 6000 HP NEXT TIME, DO NOT LET THEM KNOW ABOUT THIS!
>>563946649It's in the additional notes but not in the images. HD2 damage calculator has it.Take a look at the ttk on the foot with hmg at max fire rate.
>>563946340>It's weird to me as someone who can't be fucked with bugs anymore. I used to do them but the level of up-your-ass the bugs give out means I can't use the RR or something more consistent to take out chargers and bigger. i like bots though, even if cyborgs make you flinch constantly.
Squids are mostly fun when fighting the faction with voteless and fleshmobs, because both gas and fire work good to trim hordes. Appropriators are awful in comparison, gas and fire seem inconsistent, except gas managing some crowd control and Cremator works neat for direct damage. Mechas' weak spots might be even worse than Automatons', because the mechas move so much it's hard to hit them consistently.
>>563945326https://youtu.be/WDX_PZLOVsQ
>>563947435RR is my go-to pick for AT on bugs if I'm not using EATs.
My little brother got the game and we're playing tonightWhat faction should I pill him with firstI'll prob get him the Demolition warbond
>>563947625I do like a good EAT but the hive missions make that a bit more annoying since so much of it is underground.
>>563947435You're supposed to hate teammates to keep the chaff off your ass as you line up your shot. People forget it's a coop game.
>>563947435I like quesa on bugs. You can move while charging and a good number of backpacks make firing it without getting swarmed even easier. The cooldown time isn't as punishing as it is on bots either.
>obtruder death explosion being AP10 means it can be used to blow up saucers
>>563947860>You're supposed to hate teammatesthis very unfortunate typo completely ruined my post. You're supposed to HAVE teammates. We are supposed to work together and cover each other's flanks. But I used the wrong letter, so now it's over. Solofags won.
>>563947753Watch starship troopers then play bugfront.
>>563948006>>563947860that's rough buddy,
>>563948120Already showed him that, Terminator, RoboCop and AlienHe's ready(Hes 10)Forced DOOM and Halo into his brain as well
ARROWHEADDDDD, GIVE THE PACIFIER A DRUM MAG UPGRADE AND MY LIFE IS YOURS
>>563947923I've had them just spawn inside and die without any intervention from me.
>>563948390installing software
>>563948390based big bro
Local man can't stop offering his life.
>>563947753bots d10always gets the best reactions
>>563948923Hes already beat Doom 2, Eternal and og Halo trilogy He took a break from FPS to focus on RDR2, God of War and MarioNow hes ready to Helldive (he wasn't allowed PS plus til now)Im so mad at the state of kids todayWhere are the big bros and uncle's of the world to show them GEMS when they live in a world of COAL
>>563950151How dare you call me out like that?!
>>563950151>I die by orbital>"my fault I wasn't looking at a red line">"maybe it bounced off something">"sometimes I dont see divers so he probably didnt see me"We must end the cycle of anger
>>563950151this happen all the time in /hdg/>reeeeeee you TK'ed me!!!!>reeeeeee you stole my kills!>reeeeeee stop ragdolling me!!>but watch me ultimatum everyone at extract because le funni reddit webm that I will post on the general!
>>563950151>>563950909I'm too busy having fun seeing stuff blow up and beating stuff to notice mistakes, just laugh things off.
update status?warbond status?
>people still using breaker spraynprayyou sad sons of bitches
>>563950909the cat destroys this post's credibility
>>563944931Being able to keep veracitors stunned so your friend can end them before they can break your position is worth those downsides.Also helps deal with overseers, both flying and otherwise and keeps watchers from calling in reinforcements as long as you get one or two shots in.
>>563951372Id rather die by a diver than letting the filthy enemy see my blood
>>563946340returnfags absolutely cannot handle Appropriator call ins 90% of the time and it just turns into a shit show
>>563951445seethe catcel
I'm a lazy bastard so I don't like using the emplacements, I let the automatic sentries to do the job for me instead
I used the think the safest position to be in when using sentries was on top of them until my gatling sentry turned itself into a slide to dump some bullets into a dead voteless and then me after I slid off the barrels.
>>563952294Shield relay + HMG emplacement is peak comfy on bots though
>>563952294Keeping your attention economy manageable is a great argument for sentries. It's not very often that you need your machine gun to have heavy pen, however the limited targeting range on anti tank sentries does mean that the gamer chair is often capable of way more.
>>563952858If you can see the sentry, like it or not, you are gambling.
>>563952294The heavy turret is a godsend if you got your wits about youA sentry can mag dump on a single bug more than you know it
>>563951994your brain parasite typed that so I forgive you
>>563950151>get tk'd>lol>teammate spends 1 minute apologizing and explaining the mistakeshit happens bro don't worry about it
Over the last week and a half of playing, maybe 15 or 20 operations on d10 both pubbing and in hdg lobbies I have managed to acquire 130 super credits. Basically every mission has been fully cleared, though usually we have not scoured every POI (I have the korean arrow mod so there's no need even if the others don't know) How many super credits do you think people playing similarly down on d3-d7 would have gotten in the same span of operations? Anywhere between 500 to 700, surely.This is why you are morally obligated to cheat in super credits.
>three days remain for the fucking warbond (MAYBE) fuck me dude. Maybe I should just get one of the older ones now and start farming out medals and credits.
>>563955563It's the cities, they're absolutely dogshit for SC farming.
>>563956237Three days maybe remain for the Warbond *trailer.It won't be dropping this Tuesday, and the autists have done the math. The 28th is the consistent 42 day gap that's been going on between most bonds for the past several months.
>>563950151
>>563956382> a week and changeehh fuck it, i'll grab some new goodies sooner rather than later then.
>>563956382Oh yeah, another thing to support April 28th for the upcoming bond, is the fact that May has no bond release planned.This is because the 42 day gap between April 28th and the next bond, puts its release after this one at June 9th, which is a Tuesday.Tuesday and Thursday are the only two days used for Warbond releases.
>>563956252wasn't always the case, back in the day there would be bunkers next to one another. since then the swedes have gutted that tile set and sc spawns on cities
>>563928057>sweeper>double fredom>reprimand>trident>double-edge sickle
I do not like commando missions.
>>563958032I don't think most people do, I never see anyone host or play them.Turns out depriving the player of most of their tools so they can experience a mediocre stealth system isn't really that fun after you've done it a couple of times
>>563958578If there was a more obvious stick to your team mechanic it might work a bit better but every other part of the game lets you be a little solodiver decently well. If you had people group up with the tools required, i.e. you had three people with one supply pack, one RR, and one chaff clear like the grenade launcher or something for the bots it would go well but it requires more co-ordination than your average puggie is going to A: do. B: want to do.
>another botched MO>cent even get mad at joel anymore, this was a softball>the blob is actually just getting stupider and the lowest common denominator bar is actual primate-tierIts so disheartening to want to care about the story and GW-roleplay.
>>563959081When 50% of active players on a planet with a resistance of 1% gets 0.25% gain per hour there is no way I'm giving a shit about any of this.
>>563959081without an ingame screen to show off plans or "gambits" theres very little your average retard can do. the MOs do a bit but if they require a step ahead of thought or lateral thinking it's all fucked.
>>563959081>cent even get mad at joel anymorethat sounds like a challenge
>>563959081Literally who cares. It's all filler until the new update
>>563962295>It's all filler until the new updatethis could be a banner at the top of the page, a checkbox where you have to click "I understand", and a ticker box running under every single post, but you'd still have retards making 50 complaints per thread about how "da blob wuzzin glib glub do da mo mo... shieeeet"
>>563963121We know. We just hate bugniggers and general cattle for being retards incapable of any teamwork or thinking.>B-BUT I JUST DON'T LIKE LE PLANETsuffering builds character, pup.
>>563963121I feel as though one could acknowledge that it's filler while also bringing up the blob is getting more retarded. Because they'll also be retarded for the non-filler MO's, since they were retarded on multiple occasions during Cyberstan.
I fucking hate the purple light from the watchers. If even one of them is floating around during a fight I want to stop playing.
>>563959081>Its so disheartening to want to care about the story and GW-roleplay.Why should you care when AH keeps botching and railroading us, there are plenty of examples before but Cyberstan is the best one when it comes to their competence regarding the galactic wars and MOs.
>Decided to try an Arc loadout on squids>Shocked at how fun it is with Arc Nades/De-Escalator and the Tesla TowerThe most surprising thing was that there was 0 team kills
>>563959081If the galactic war only took into account each front separately instead of every helldiver currently online it would be enough to separate those that care about the galactic war and those that just want to play what the feel like.
>>563964751The teamkills come from the K-9 if you're going with lightning. All other Lighting weapons and stratagems are easy to control and play with.
>>563964972Tesla towers are easy to control. What isn't easy to control is the overwhelming instinct of pubbies to lick the lämp.
>>563964959It would literally triple the workload for JOEL though, so it'll never happen
>>563963730The trick is to shoot them before they spot you.
>>563963730>see watcher>pull out / aim gun to shoot it>during this animation, the watcher has hidden behind a piece of geometry>it calls backup from behind coverBIBLICAL PLAGUE UPON SW*DEN.DEATH AND MISERY.POVERTY.RAPE. EVEN MORE RAPE THAN IT CURRENTLY HAS.
>>563965840Sooner or later one WILL appear while you're busy and it WILL circle you from behind a mountain and still manage to blind you from there.
>>563966169for me when a watcher goes nearby but I have to reload to shoot it
>>563966169>Purple light behind building, can't shoot it, strats on cooldown>Calls in some bullshit>Purple light behind building- calls shit in- wait, no, actually it's inside the building so can't do shit if strats are on cooldown>Kill 2 that spawned>third one randomly appears behind and calls shit inI'm sick of swede co-op shooter games spawning threats in at seemingly random FUCK YOU DIE moments where you KNOW nothing is behind you etc but as soon as you look away... BAM
>join random games>succeed easily every time>host my own game>get raped and murdered, everyone has 5+ deaths>barely complete the missionWhat causes this, really?
>>563967463the fact that half of the features involving AI and enemy spawns only work on the host because sweden is incompetent as fuck
>>563967980I know that much, but why does the host bug also make the pubbies in my game worse?
>>563967463Hosts get the benefit of 0 ping but so does the AI towards you. I unironically get madder trying to clear d1-d3 bot outposts as a host (solo) than D10 as a client when pubbing because the bots are just way more reactive.
>>563967463Something to do with PC specs idk, I get deathrape seeds too
>>563968221I keep my D10 hosts to myself. No one deserves to experience that.
>use MMG on new squids>it actually shreds everything on the frontWhy didn't someone tell me?
>>563967463The strength of the host's hardware determines enemy spawnrate.Also enemies will largely ignore clients to go after host, so it always feels like a balls to wall experience when hosting.Then there's the rundiver-mentality that greatly increases the dropship/bugbreach/aylmao-rate.
What's with the fucking spawn numbers on these Squid missions? Everybody's finishing the mission with 700+ kills each.
>>563970314The MMG has literally been considered the safe meta option for Squids since day one.
42 days between warbond releases is the most common interval and they've switched to a tuesday release for the last 4 warbonds. Redacted Regiment was planned to release on a tuesday but was delayed until that weeks thursday. A release on the 28th gives them room for the customary 1 week announcement window on the 21st while also putting it on a 42 day release interval.
>>563970534>no head>still dies 8 timeswhat kind of shitter is this
>>563972035A non-shitter wouldn't be using the glitch and that armor in tandem to begin with.
>>563970314We did, multiple times.HMG shreds even harder, but it's not as good against massed enemies.
>>563970534transmogger is the worst one on the team...lol
Do any of you guys use reshade with your in game resolution scaling set to ultra quality instead of native? I want to use a decent looking one to improve the visuals but the better ones like cmaa or cDLAA look pretty bad with downscaling applied in game. Normally I'd stick to native but my card is just barely unable to reach my desired 100 fps without downscaling
>>563973165no that's cheating and I'm against cheating.
>>563972207>HMG shreds even harder, but it's not as good against massed enemies.if you're on mindless masses or regular squids that's when you pull out your saber since you're using peak physique to boost the ergo on the HMG already anyways. at least you should be.
>>563970534>The strength of the host's hardware determines enemy spawnrate.Wat.
>>563973572You don't need pp fucking ever, and las dagger is the way to go for that.
>>563973858it doesn't, intensity is set at random
>>563973858supposedly. I've only heard claims but never seen anyone put it to the test
April 21stApril 28thJune 2ndJune 9thJuly 14thJuly 21stAugust 25thSeptember 1stOctober 6thOctober 13thNovember 17thNovember 24th
reddit is saying to keep pushing on hydrobius to not lose momentum
reddit is saying to push your fingers into your eyeswill you comply
>>563973572PP is not necessary, ever.It's a good thing to have, but you never actually need it.Recoil reduction is unironically a better pick.
>>563975017IT'S THE ONLY THINGTHAT SLOWLY STOPS THE ACHE
>>563975117you can compensate for recoil by crouching, proning, and learning recoil controlyou can't compensate for low ergonomics
>>563963407>since they were retarded on multiple occasions during Cyberstan.This was more of an issue with how dogshit liberation rates were when attacking multiple mega factories (and blatant jeet rigging for most of the lead up)seriously when you would search for games on cyberstan only 1 game would show up per factory just like they do for mega citiesso it's only natural people got spread the fuck out, on top of the usual kayfabe and lack of intel from jewl the result we got was inevitablewe were never going to take cyberstan and we were never going to shut down the jeet brigade factory simply because the GMs didn't want us to
>Run a turret build for squids>Some random joins and decided its a good idea to bring concealed insertion>Completely ruined my build
>Falls on your head with ap10 and instantly kills youWhat now, diver boy???
>>563976645why are you mentioning the AP like it means literally anything?
>>563976856It matters for the bastion, mechs, and turrets.
>>563975542Kek, I hadn't considered that part of the booster until now.
>>563973923>>563973982Try playing with a console host.It's a snoozefest.
>squids made obtruders and watchers out of a material so heavy, so dense, so destructive that they fall with enough force to punch right through their own warp ships and blow them upWhat were they thinking?
>waste everyone's time by not putting any defense campaign for an entire day>shit out 2 defenses on random planets unrelated to the one with the orbital blockade on>"YOU LOST YOU ALL SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111!!!!!!!"What is this type of storytelling called again?
>>563978108>a solo silo missile can't blow up a bot jammer>but a small poopoo explosion from a watcher could destroy a gunship facility or an orbital cannon
>>563978212Phoned-in half-assed filler.
>>563922342>AT Emplacement, which at the time was the only reliable way to shoot them downthe humble eagle strafing run
>>563978617key word is reliable because no one can do this consistently with how eagles randomly decide to change the direction of the attack in megacities
>epoch is only heavy armour pen>not anti tank you bitches lied to me.
>>563979239anon?
>>563978459>>but a small poopoo explosion from a watcher could destroy a gunship facility or an orbital cannon>demo force: 30no it can't
>>563979239but it is anti tank, when you charge it up. uncharged shots are heavy pen. Arrowhead just HATES putting accurate information or any information whatsoever about weapons in-game
>>563979402Oh my bad, had a brain fart and saw the AP10 explosion and thought it was demo force
>>563978617>that SEAFbro had no fear
>>563979309>>563979412why are they like this
>>563979231it's not randomthe eagle needs a little clearance to do a strafe. If you throw it on a megacity and buildings are in the way of its usual 90 degree pathing it looks for the nearest open lane and switches to it.
>>563974215>Six more Warbonds this yearNeat
>>563979621JUST LIKE IN DA MOOVIES
>>563979894right so I'll just politely ask the leviathan to fly in the right direction and in the right spot with enough clearance to kill it with a strafing run. You're missing the point.
>>563950151I dont care just reinforce me ASAP near my stuff and we are good
>>563979737because arrowhead hates consistency and having informed players
>>563980120Why politely ask them? Why not just adapt?>the pointYou seemed upset so I thought you'd be happy to know there are multiple reliable ways to kill leviathans but here you are continuing to doom and gloom, what gives?A jump pack and a servo arm lets you reliably get the angles you need to take down leviathans with strafes. By paying attention to which direction they're going, and where your super destroyer is, you can also use the orbital gatling barrage without being thwarted by repositioning. These are just my personal go-to's when I specifically want to go solo whale hunting, and it doesn't sacrifice stratagem slots since the two are universally useful against every unit anyway.I hope you have fun from now on!!
>>563980120compared to what other strategy? this is as good as its gonna get
>>563950151https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wr5pPUPwgqo
the variable is shite.
^ can't kill harvesters
>>563979737It's displaying the properties of the minimum charge projectile, which is of course pretty retarded.I would argue the opposite case also happens, like for example Eruptor shows heavy pen, which is technically true, but most of its damage output is med pen.In the end there is no winning.
the reprimand is shite
>>563975276You can compensate for low ergonomics by overcompensating when aiming, this was addressed in the last thread.Low ergonomics is also nowhere near as bad as high recoil when it comes to a weapon that has 500+ RPM.
bots or bugs steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242352586566/76561198088743
>>563980179oh I'll reinforce you alright
bonk
>>563983073Coded to happen btw. It’s impossible to survive this.
>>563982710fvll¡?
>>563983182heavy explosive resist armor should be able to
>>563983182>Coded to happen btwso what about all the times it doesn't happen?
>>563983453bug
it really is dead huh
>>563986990owari da..
>>563946419Turn down the RoF.
>>563974215But will they be interesting Warbonds?
>>563988375we got uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh another HD1 weapon that's been sitting in the files since launch.
>>563987239Rarely has it been more over than it is right now.
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>>563988375You will get weapon skins and you will like it.
its so cute when they only have 2 strategems
I'm really bad at using the Epoch. :(
>>5639891433/4
>>563989910Don't worry about it, the Epoch is really bad at being a good weapon as well
>>563989143launching 3/4
Give me an Apoopriator loadout that contains the HMG pls.
warbond doko
>>563990102:(
>>563990372Streets say the pacifier is good at freezing them and the HMG can finish them off fastI like eagle abuse so yeah
>>563990372Ok first of all you select the HMG stratagem, then while in the mission you use your stratagem menu to call it in
>>563990372Pacifier or CoyoteGP or UltiArc, Therm or pyrotechGuard DogGat/MG Sentry/HMG EmplacementGat barrage/HMG Emplacement/Eagle StrafeHMG
>could take shete thus stoping the invasion and retaking keidWill we actually do it?
>>563990769thanks
>>563990372Still haven't worked out if it's damage/ammo effective yet but blowing the arms off the gorillas staggers them. Aim for their elbow where there's that little circle that's light armoured. Cut both arms off and they instantly die.
>>563990982>>563990769or right also forgot to mention supply pack if you need the ammo.Siege ready or Peak physique armor depending on if you prefer reload speed or ergos
>>563990928All signs point to no.
>>563990987Arms on Veracitors are the best place to shoot, actually. They don't have much health, they guard the pilot with them the moment they take fire, and they are huge and basically impossible to miss.
>>563989143back in ship 3/4 our illustrious pub has departed
>>563974215>June and Julygood one bro
>>563992754July 9th is 42 days after April 28th. May is not included on the roadmap.42 days has been a consistent gap between launches for several months now.
>>563973895You don't NEED Peak Physique but I don't consider the HMG to be a good weapon without it. Every action you take is a hassle. Tracking an enemy, actually aiming at them, trying to hit an enemy that blindsided you and is very close. It is fucking miserable without PP.I NEED PP to be happy
>>563992684fvll
>>563982710
>>563991259Doesn't matter for the HMG because it surpasses the armour rating of all the arm parts but for the maxigun or MMG which is med pen you need to aim for the upper arms or shoulders to get full damage output. Not 100% on how the separate hitbox health works but I'm pretty sure you should stick to one point rather than sloppily spreading your damage over the entire arm.
>>563992997Personally I take fortified.
>>563992930You are forgetting that they are all going on vacation and they will only do the bare minimum. You can expect one filler event and one warbond (additionally maybe a new stratagem) from June til late August
>>563993650What are the chances they'll rename the airburst rocket launcher to the cluster rocket launcher and give us an actual airburst rocket launcher?
>>563993935No, we're getting the orbital napalm gatling. Next year we'll get the eagle napalm strafing.
Lightning strike red strat when?>completes the full arc build>could be anti tank which is currently the main weakness of full arc
>>563994498Your EMS strike xir???
Wow this MO fell apart quickly. The delay between attacks got the blob to converge on Hydrobius during the lull. Then the double attack happened where the players were split three ways on Hort, Keid, and Hydrobius. The DSS took extra voting cycles for some reason to have the option to go the defense planets which kept mothdivers on Hydrobius.. The blob eventually voted for it to go to Keid which was the harder planet to defend. That defense failed, of course, but the blob refused to leave until the bitter end which wasted time and effort that could have went to Hort. Now Hort is looking to fail and the most recent attack on Siemnot looks like it will fail too. This isn't even Joel fuckery this time. The blob is absolutely retarded and cannot interact with the galactic war with sense of intelligence.
>>563994498I have been begging for this since launch. Orbital Bolt Strike, Arc Strike, something like that. And an Arc sniper rifle. Make it like UT2k4's Lightning Sniper. I love Arc shit so much, but they refuse to show it any love at all.
>>563994498>orbital arc barrage>120mm barrage but instead of an explosion the shells shoot arc zaps in 3 directions on impactIt would suck ass and you know it.
MO?
>>563993114I really hate the little laser turrets for some reason they are extremely accurate with 1 shot capability and even when they miss you get ragdolled then raped by follow ups before you can get up
>>563994571>>563995021No, you don't get it. I want an orbital strike projectile that deploys into a lightning rod on impact and smites the FUCK out of the nearest heavy with a huge ap6 arc. I want the wrath of nature to come down and explode a bile titan's head.
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>>563975276>can't compensate for low ergonomicsgo into fpv and say that again
>>563995223Dude idk what MO means bro I just dive where the space station is lol
>>563994498>yfw it darkens the area beneath it like a hard as fuck tempest before zapping the tallest enemies that are alive at that moment underneath it
>>563995469Working as intended!
They should just make an ergonomics booster already. Like 20 ergos for the whole team
>>563995629space station?
>>5639955202/4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkDyVcE7w5g
>>563995928>>563994498>>563995480Technically they already have the technology when they made exospire missions to have localized lightning storm generators
>>563995021Nah have it like an OPS where a single gigantic bolt strikes the beacon directly so you can skillshot heavies.
>>5639955203/4
>>563948467drum mags are gay and stupid and only certain weapons should have access to them
>>563995469They're much harder to see too, always have a wall behind them so no silhouette
>>563950909the cat reinforces this post's credulity
>>5639891431/4
>>563996137Like a lorentz cannon? Would be pretty based if it made that sound metal cord under tension makes when you tap it on the way down so you could tell it was actually just a wire shot at the ground from the ship.
>>563997923two
>>563998202Whats to differentiate it from the railcannon strike though other than looks and element? Chain to nearby chaff?
>>563995551being in first person does not eliminate ergonomic effect
>>563998460Railcannon auto aims. It would be more like the ops but chains from point of impact instead of exploding
>>563980120just put the fries in the bag bro
>>563989143>stim pistol TKhas this happened to anyone ever?
>>563998353launching 2/4 ded game
wow that's crazy, where's that HD1 lobby tho?
>decide to try out the railgun after months of not using it>first mission is a war strider constellation>play through it anyways>as I slide around on the ground for 10+ seconds from three separate war striders' grenades I recall why I stopped bringing the AMR, HMG, and railgun to the bot front>mission is finally over and I join another mission>it is a war strider constellation>leave, join another mission>it is a war strider constellation>leave, join another mission>it is a war strider constellation>leave, join another mission>it is a war strider constellation>give up and reequip the recoilless rifle>all the missions are now hulk and tank constellationscan arrowhead get the stick out of their ass and just tell us the constellation we're diving against? This shit is the main reason I run hyper generalist loadouts instead of risking a potentially more effective loadout against a specific constellation/mission seed. I swear they get a micro-orgasm every time they hide important information from players. Don't even get me started on how some enemy constellations are more common on certain mission types.
>>563998460Compared to OPS>longer CD (120 seconds with upgrades)>loses the demolition force>comes in nearly instantly: 1 second from ball deploy to impact>main bolt does OPS impact tier damage, so 3500 AP8. Instagibs up to and including War Striders>then basically spawns 5 arc tower shots that arc around from the point of impact, zapping little guys and chaining. Cannot go 30 meters from start point to limit TKs. Like the de-escalator, they can all instead fry the main target if there is nothing else to hit.
>>563998562>he doesn't know
>>563999824and no the bullets don't magically shoot at the spot your mouse is aiming at even though the gun is lagging behind
Just had a d7 two player mindless masses mission with a combined total of 2200 kills.
>>563995223MOO
>>563999615Or just nerf war striders. Make their eyes AP3, and instead of being lethal, make busting the bottom eye make them unable to properly aim the cannons and the top eye the grenades. If both are busted, it fires blindly as though permenantly gassed. That way you don't NEED dedicated anti-tank to make them more or less harmless save for pure bad luck.
>>564000098HOLY COW
>>564001075my pajeet radar is beeping...
/hdg/ minecraft server when?
>>564001179o la vache...
>>563999942I must be getting unlucky, every mindless mass mission I've been playing results in less than 1000 kills, even on d10. I've seen an illuminate drop ship drop off five voteless more than once. Several times the illuminate drops have been so small that a single MG turret can take care of it by its lonesome.>>564000217That's part of what annoys me so much about them. I wouldn't call war striders overpowered, but they are probably one of the hardest gear checks outside of something like the hivelord or a leviathan. If you have AT, you're good, just shoot it in the crotch and it dies. If you aren't running AT... well you'd best hope that your team of randos haven't all split up soloing stuff by themselves because otherwise you're about to be fried and stirred more than a thing of scrambled eggs from all the ragdoll lasers and grenades. Even something like a charger or a bile titan can be taken down with light pen if you have enough time. Hypothetically you can take a war strider down with stuff like the HMG, double edged sickle, or laser cannon but arrowhead has a massive fetish for adding tons of durable resistance on everything so you will spend two business days focusing on one war strider while d10 spawns 5+ on a stratagem jammer. That's why I bring the ultimatum and thermites on every bot mission.
>>564001230
>>564001931
>>564001525>best hope that your team of randos haven't all split up soloing stuffyou have identified the problem with war stridersthose 5 war striders on a jammer are a big problem for some one alone. they are not a problem when the entire team is together, even if everyone only has your standard array of bot front AP4 support weapons instead of dedicated heavy AT. A full team can combine not just individual firepower but also split attention from the enemy making the presence of a large quantity of tanky enemies not an issue.
the blob?
>>564002176?
>>564001525I've done 2 solo d10s and they were both over 2000 kills.
>>564002249>>564002267Hivemind activate lmao
>>564001525>I must be getting unlucky, every mindless mass mission I've been playing results in less than 1000 kills, even on d10.I think that it depends on the host. When i host D10 i get endless swarms, 10 abominations at the same time etc. When i join someone eleses game there's 1~2 abominations and we barely get to 1000 kills the whole team combined.
>>564002021press it harder and faster
>>564002756kinky
Boomers keep opening the bay doors over Oshaune.
>>563999423Maybe in two hours, im visiting senpai rn or you can host you fool
senpai here, idk who this guy is but I'm in front of the Student Council Office on Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday and Sunday during the daytime and there's nobody else here.
jar5 dominator could use two more mags if its capacity is gonna be stuck at 15
Is everyone ready for the next two month collapse of ever worsening issues and a skeleton crew that'll just be making things worse the whole time because the devs do all of jack shit to prepare for their absences!?Because it's Arrowhead vacation time next month!
>>564004494I'ma be real dog I can't even tell when they're on vacation anymore because they basically never work anyway
>>564004314It should just be heavy pen.Keep everything else the same, just make it heavy pen. It may not be a perfect balance but it would do a lot to counter the power creep.Or making it actually explosive like it was originally mis-categorized as would at least give it the niche of combating the ever inflating enemy durability.Or both. Both would be best but I've learned even just hoping for anything positive is still expecting too much from AH, so I'll take what I can get.
>>564004969>t would do a lot to counter the power creep.I''m not sure how letting a 15 round mag semi automatic 250 RPM 0 drag primary 2 shot hulk eyes is supposed to counter power creep...
>>564004494Does it even matter what AH does when like 90% of the game gets outsourced anyway?
>>564005257You do realize when armor pen only matches the enemy armor you're only doing a little over half the weapon's actual damage, right?It would raise damage against med enemies significantly, improving both ammo economy and ttk, while also giving it options against heavies as you mentioned. It's not just hulk eyes, but you could mag dump tier 4 weakspots, basically how people do with the AMR now (Which should be pen 5 frankly). It wouldn't be Great at the role, but it is just a primary and it would still be an option, a niche, which it just doesn't have one right now beyond "No drag".Also I did say it wouldn't be a perfect balance, but it would HELP. It'd be a Start...
>>564005885>You do realize when armor pen only matches the enemy armor you're only doing a little over half the weapon's actual damage, right?the hulk eye is 250HP and 25% durabledominator does 275 normal damage and 90 durable dmage275*0.75=20690*0.25=22206+22=228228*0.65=148148*2=296 damagethat's a two shot for hulk eyes. so again, how is further trivializing a common heavy even more than it already is countering power creep?
JAR-5 needs something to set it apart from the slugger. Right now there's no point in taking a trash ergo weapon with a misaligned scope that has effectively the same range just for the fire rate.
>he thinks height over bore is a "misaligned scope"everything else you said was wrong too
>>564006693Its mag fed, and it has no damage falloff (last I remember), that's the trade-off.
>>564006987>no damage falloffmeaningless on an inaccurate weapon with a slow projectile
>>564006378You realize there's more enemies than just Hulks right? Let alone armor 4 enemies, right?You realize there was several more sentences in my response, right? Why are you being a cunt when I'm agreeing with you that it needs a buff, just a better one than the wet fart, nothing burger one you suggested? How would you suggestion of 2 more mags make any difference in usability? If you're running out of ammo then you're doing something wrong.>>564006987>no damage falloffAnd nothing else going for it, whoopty fucking do
Robutts drive me nutts
>>564007181wait hold on are you coming from the position that it's the ENEMIES that are power creeping OUR ability to deal with them effectively?
>>564006987>trying to use logic for /hdg/ which just makes decisions off emotions You're talking to a brick wall.
I think instead of giving it heavy armor pen, its durable damage ratio should just be increased, and it should have more ammo reserves. In fact I think a lot of weapons should have their durable damage increased, or that enemies should have their durability lowered on certain spots.
I have been... le abandoned......
>>564007261
No content is powercreeping my ability to care about this game
>>564006937>he thinks I'm talking about height over bore don't pipe up unless you actually play the game lil bro
>>564007396...Both?The enemies have been power crept little by little since the 60 day patch and instead of bringing up old weapons to stay relevant they just put out new power crept ones to sell their latest warbonds (probably just to nerf them later anyway but still).I'd just like the older weapons, like the JAR, to be be brought up to be as effective as our newer options instead of jus left to rot growing ever weaker by comparison. There's basically no reason to take the JAR over half the other dmr options, even with it's 'No drag'. It used to have a niche, but objectively better options both trivialized that niche and made it still obsolete even within it.
JAR-5 is a shotgun
Super Earth society is literally the Lego Movie "Everything is Awesome" bit and im happy to fight and die for that
>>564008418Even humoring you that that wasn't an incredible stupid take, it's still a terrible shotgun compared to several of the other options we have for shotguns.
>>564005885>It would raise damage against med enemies significantly,it actually wouldn'tSTK vs hive guard, brood/alpha commander, and bile spewer heads would not change, nor would STK vs scout strider crotches, nor overseers. The only benefit the dominator gets against medium enemies going up to heavy pen is you go from 3 shots against devastator chests to 2 shots.It's only heavy enemies like hulks, tanks,harvesters, and squid mechs that 4 pen actually improves across the board and with significant effect. giving the dominator more spare mags would buff it way more vs medium enemies than giving it heavy pen would
>>564008445sad to hear your media lexicon begins and ends with a children's animated movie about plastic bricks
Sex with the jar-5
>>564008978its a good movie sir
>>564008784what's stupid about it? the bullet velocity is too slow so the best way to use it is magdumping shit at close range. The stagger also makes it harder to use at longer ranges vs. the targets you'd most likely want to use it on like devastators. Right now the jar is best used on bugs lol
i think it would be funny if instead of helldivers taking headshot damage they took nutshot damage. like imagine if you got hit by a rocket strider in the nuts, and the camera zoomed in on your character grabbing their crotch and they say "OW MY NUTS" in a high pitched voice before falling over.
>>564009369"YOUCH RIGHT IN THE STRATAGEMS!"*bug covers its eyes*
>>564009332this, I just used it on bugs like I'd use a shotgun and it was okay. Anything longer than 30-40m was like pulling teeth though
Alright I'm warming up to the Pacifier(with gundog). It's pretty funny to shoot the squid mech while it's charging at you only for it to stop dead and see the pilot struggling with the controls while you blast him in the face
>>564009714with cum. sorry, forgot to finish my sentence.
>>564009714Having at least one player with a stun primary is always such a solid convenience.
>new content in “April”>releases 2 days before MayYes I know it’s technically correct and arrowhead has been following a schedule for bonds but this isn’t the first time I’ve seen game devs do that shit and it annoys me
>>564007572Bunch of homos leaving such a fine ass behind baka
>>564009792Do not fuck the squids>>564009838I did save a couple dudes today I think by stopping a mech that was about to run them over and quite a few watchers too
>>564008301the jar isn't a dmr
>>564010157>I did save a couple dudes today I think by stopping a mech that was about to run them over and quite a few watchers tooIts a thankless job but its satisfying on its own
>>564007572They remembered!
>>564008867It would raise its effectiveness across the board and actually let it tackle heavy enemies it did literally nothing against before.You keep narrowing in on these specific, cherry picked aspects for your arguments while ignoring the big picture.It's very disingenuous.If not very autistic.>>564009332>>564009547Why would you just not use the double freedom or sweeper instead?It's not supposed to be a shotgun (especially with that terrible ergo) even you can Sort Of use it as one. It has no purpose in the game right now. It's not even a jack of all trades, those are supposed to be at least good at many things; it's just kind of bad at everything when compared to other options, even generalist options.
>>564010157Are you telling me you DON'T get an insatiable boner on seeing this?
>>564011057Not enough meat on the bones. I think we should start feeding captured squids burgers and see how it turns out
lobbyidc what since the mo is shot anyways.steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242374645191/76561198008364447
>>564011057cut content btw
>>564011057sex with cultists
>>564011398
>>564011398shut up and let me believegod they looks so fucking good WHY DID THEY GET REPLACED BY ZOMBIESLOPthat one korean breakdown someone posted a few days ago actually had me livid with pure rage knowing what could have been
why would you cut outsourced content?
>>5640113812/4
>>564011381really?on a sat night only 1 taker?dead fucking general.we're dropping so get in now.
>>564011003NTA, but it doesn't need to tackle heavy enemies, that's what support weapons and reds are for.Those specific aspects are what actually matter, rather than vibecoding it to now affect heavy enemies for no reason.How are relevant breakpoints disingenuous?Balancing weapons so they're not under/overpowered requires critical thought, so I suppose I can see how that would seem autistic to you.>why not use a shotgun with only two shorts or one without any stagger?Because the Dominator has more range, a bigger mag, and lots of stagger per shot? Since you brought up shotguns, think of it like this: it's like a Breaker version of the Slugger, just without the massive damage falloff. It's purpose is to be a "stop that mf right now" gun, and it served that purpose very well on cyberstan when people were complaining about getting rushed down by cyborgs. It does a lot of damage + durable and stagger to heavy infantry without needing to hit them in the weakpoints, with the tradeoff being small mags.The original suggestion to just give it two more mags seems like a good way to give it a minor buff without shifting it into a role that makes no sense for it to occupy.
>>564011621>shut up and let me believe>what could have beenyou're contradicting yourself
>>564007572>>564010887What mod sister
>>564012838
>>564013024>tiny cat earsprobably one of the many hellcats
>>564011003>It would raise its effectiveness across the boardyou're going purely off vibes for this one, friend. extra pen would do nothing for it against almost every chaff and medium enemy. only a single part on devastators get an improvement. how is 4 pen going to make it more effective against enemies that have at most 2 armour? or chaff/medium enemies that do have 3 armour but those parts have either too much HP or too much durability for a pen increase to actually change any breakpoints? heavy pen would only significantly improve its performance against a class of enemies that, hey, maybe primary weapons shouldn't be really effective against, or if they are they have serious drawbacks in other departments like the plasma accelerator or the eruptor does.
>>564013039Yes anon thank you for posting a secondary weapon with six shots, very good.
Loadouts for this feel
>>564011913>>564012293Can you like make it interesting wheres the lust inducing image maybe a theme for the lobby?
>>564012838>>564013481I like how you guys started your posts by complaining about "vibe balancing" and immediately proceeded to argue that primaries shouldn't work on certain enemies based on vibes
>>564014424>proceeded to argue that primaries shouldn't work on certain enemiescan you quote where I said primaries shouldn't work on certain enemies?"be really effective against" does not mean "cannot hurt at all", and how convenient of you to ignore the caveat I included: >or if they are they have serious drawbacks in other departments "
Would a tank with napalm be fun to use? It could either be as the main gun or auxiliary gun.
>>564013959
Chat, I think this MO is cooked. On god for real. Joel is rizzing us again.
>>564014424Not based on vibes, read the post again smoothbrain.>>564012838>that's what support weapons and reds are for.You want to boost it up to AP4 based on vibes, because you somehow think that will make it more ammo efficient, which was proven wrong by the anon you called "disingenuous and autistic". I don't think you know what those words mean. I think you're dumb.
What's the next "belt fed" weapon gonna be?
>>564015994ideally nothing, because they'll either fuck it up + it's now a played out meme. The obvious choice(s) would be something like a plasma/arc weapon that acts like the gluon gun from half life.
>>564015994either some superloader zapper or just a backpack-fed stalwart
>>564015994Belt fed laser cannon thats just a diver-mounted orbital laser
>>564014424It's a buzzword they use when they've realized their arguments are full of shit but can't admit it. So they fall back on cherry picking and projection like>upping the armor pen wouldn't make it better for anythingWhen we literally have enemies with no weak points below level 4 armor. Which still wouldn't be an ideal match up against some of them but it would still allow a fight.I still don't know why they're so fucking set against it in the first place. The whole point was it needs a buff but these fuckers are arguing against it like a pair of day one glazers.
>>564014120hey, what are you doing out of containment
>>564015994>>564016239
>>564015994Super railgun with a powerpack would be fun. Overcharging blows up the pack like the tnt.
it was explained to you repeatedly dumbass samefag
>>563924132I think the leviathans and the hivelords should have missions that take them out, like launching a SAM from a silo akin to the mission to take down the alien motherships
>>564006937Height over bore has been out of the game for a year and a half, it only came back last month.
>>563995551ok now i can't see shit when I'm shooting thanks to the sight housing and muzzle flash
>>563928057Eruptor for bugs and squids (along with a stalwart)Scorcher for the bots Adjudicator or sweeper if I'm having a chill d7 day And I dunno, maybe the base liberator just for having the most starship troopers-like ratta tat
>>564017405eye issue
>>563928057CoyoteSickleEruptorCrossbow Lever action or Censor, I don’t have either of those two but they are fun and tempting me to buy the warbond for them
>>564016281>So they fall back on cherry picking and projection like>>upping the armor pen wouldn't make it better for anythingexcept it always mentioned which enemies it would do something for>The whole point was it needs a buff but these fuckers are arguing against it except for pointing out buffing ammo would be better.
>>564018296sorry, only the buffs I think it should have are actually buffs, increasing how much ammo it has or upping the durable damage while fixing problem enemies (war striders) is not allowed. Instead we should just give things better armor pen and call it a day.
you know your argument is good when you have to resort to a strawman
you know you got btfo'd when you have to resort to vague posting
I WANT SAFETY ORANGE PATTERNS FOR THE ENERGY WEAPONS
war striders were the best addition since the game's releasethe fact they still make shitters madeven today is a gift
>>564018972>see warboi>look down>yeet, leveler, giga, ultilike looking at the taco bell menu...
Someone explain to me how Joel intended us to win five planets in three days
>>564019529You weren't, its all going according to plan.
>>564019370
>>564019529He's feeling spiteful. Maybe someone cut him off while driving or something.
>>564019370kill yourself
>avatarfagging with AI slopwhat kind of mental illness is that
748not a strawman, that was your position
>>564019529I don't think Joel is in charge of MO's anymore. Im entirely convinced the jeet is in charge now. Ever since they revealed him I've noticed a sharp increase in unwinnable/rigged MO's. Its all an Izzat farm for him.
>>564019370love yourself>>564019529that's the neat thing - you don't!
Truthfully there is no greater giga shitter than somebody that uses the Ultimatum.
FUCK
>>564019869The one the government hates the most: Free thinking.
steam://joinlobby/394510/109775242381460760/76561199108851031hd1, d12-15 whatevs
>>564019956Joel and Udit are working together anon. Swedes and Indians both have a cultural honor thing to keep farming izzat.
>>5640202682/4
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242381822219/76561199586955078bots, maybe dakka but idk
>>5640202683/4
>>564020754failed to join
>>564020754>>564020754Update if full nigger or i will fucking end you do you understand me
>New experimental backpack stratagem derived from Illuminate tech>Gives a diver limited telekinesis>Allows the player to pick up small enemies, explosive barrels, rocks, etc and fling them at enemies.>can also be used to drag weapons towards the diver from a distance>overuse causes the divers head to explodeGood or bad idea?
>>564020268full
>>564015591so the epochthx anon
>>564022268dogshit
564022268Such a terrible idea that you're going to have to waste a reply to get a (You) from me.
>>564019869resident trooner of the thread
>>564022268in a different game this would be fun, but this game lacks the depth to make this actually fun and useful. Just doesn't fit.
>faggothead going mask off with their cheating, quietly doubling the range watchers can call-in and enabling call-ins through walls without visual confirmation
>>564022891probably wasn't even intentional, they probably just fucked something up and didn't notice and will never fix it
>grrrr the environment is cheating against me!!!!!!!!top kek
>Known Issues: Stratagems sometimes bounce off terrain.
>>564023126I thought they quietly took it off the list and recategorized it as a "fun feature"
>>564015994laser gatling
So wait if I host a lobby on my 5090 does that mean everybody is guaranteed to get raped by trillions of pred bugs alongside me?
>>564019529I'm convinced the majority of the player base doesn't know the difference between defence and liberation, because for some reason most of the retards were on hydrobius when the next 2 invasions popped up.If they actually bothered to make a move early instead of waiting several hours for the DSS to tell them what planet to dive on they could have had a chance
>>564023738you people have no clue how computers workbut to answer your question - no, enemy intensity isn't tied to your performance and you technically could set it by hand if you used the mod menu
>>564022268Never happening in arrowheads "realistic" milistim grunt fantasy sci-fi game. You'll take another assault rifle and shotgun thats slightly different than what we already have and you will like it.
>>564023991There’s a mod for that? Then what’s all this about host specs mattering for enemy spawns?
>>564024129because some games would tie enemy intensity and their AI to host's cpu - think payday and vermintidethere's just a mass hysteria about most systems in this one because no one knows anything for sure and people are becoming more and more retarded with every year
>>564022268Do enemies even take fall and kinetic damage
>>564024224They dont fall. They just awkwardly snap to the ground 20 feet below them. Even fucking Elden Ring was able to make enemies fall and die if they fell too far.
>>564024129is da consolebabs dey gibs the bad spawns!!
>>564024224I think the only form of collision damage they can take is if they collide with another unit; dropships would deliver half damaged units for some time because of that
>running forward but get stuck between an invisible corpse and a ledge>doing the fall animation for about 2 seconds >Finally touch the ground and almost dieNice game hellkeks
>>564024829Shit happens way too often .
>>5640202683/4, native chief left
>>564024224>Hulk tries to chase you around a building corner>A single pixel of his foot clips into the building>Vanishes (He's actually on top of the building)>He takes another step and teledrops back to ground level instantlyWatchers actually have invisible feet that they "walk" with, which is why they spontaneously drop thirty feet when "stepping off" of a ledge
>>564024829>wear rock solid heavy>step off a foot tall stone step>die, instantly, from full health>the game tried to knock me down, but couldn't because of rock steady, so it simply executed me instead
>>564026290is this real lol
>>564026290but that's not enough distance to start ragdolling...
>>564026504Yeah it is, was super common on warbond launch because everyone was running it.
>>564025757where's her butt
Muscle Enhancement should also give +20 ergos
>>564011621Same. I jusy cannot believe they would cut an entire faction thats basically finished. And they look...fucking amazing. Genuinely the best looking faction in the game, and they arent even in it.The swedish mind is truly unfathomable
I wanna fuck a Borg.
