>What is Morimens?A Slay the Spire inspired card gacha featuring elements from the Cthulhu Mythos>Official Linkshttps://store.steampowered.com/app/3052450/Morimens/https://x.com/morimensofcl>Arc 2 Chapter 5 PVhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLLf3DhYbws>Current Events (V2.4.3)[Rerun Awakenings: Wanda/Salvador/Kathigu-Ra] 2026/3/23 - 2026/4/20[Rerun Awakenings: Tulu/Sorel/Doll:Inferno] 2026/4/6 - 2026/5/4[Rerun Event: Feast of Flames] 2026/3/23 - 2026/4/6[Rerun Event: The Sovereign's Return] 2026/4/6 - 2026/5/4[Wanda Free Skin Event: With Spikenard And Myrrh] 2026/4/6 - 2026/4/19>Upcoming Events (V2.5 & beyond)[V2.5 & Astral Reign Chapter 5: Web of the Moirai] 2026/4/20[Character Awakening: Arachne] 2026/4/20 - 2026/5/18[Gameplay Event: Bound Weaver] 2026/4/20 - 2026/5/18[Rerun Event: The Great Conquering] 2026/5/4 - 2026/5/18[Special Awakening: Moonless Guide] 2026/5/4 - 2026/5/30[WoD Archives: L'Heure du The] 2026/4/20 - 2026/5/18[COLLAB: Saya No Uta]: TBAV2.6: 2026/6/29V2.7: 2026/11/16>Guides & Wikishttps://morimens.huijiwiki.com/https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TCU7LJRzqKeuvLe97y_TfGZ-j6jq5bZX6hskAAJ2mFQ/edit?gid=167686509#gid=167686509>Forgotten Eve>>563711206
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>>563934653Reposting the collage done by >>563842706 with all the new AAs.
asphy-play with leigh!
Reposting Arachne's kit too
will my current team be enough to clear main story?
Just ignore it this time around.
>>563936339dont tell me what to do
>>563936002should be good enough for normal story mode for now. get e3 kath at some point thoughkath prefers other supports (karen/ramona/gramona/tinct/horla/clem, etc) but early on it doesn't really matterand put a brown wheel 'gluttony' on someone in your team - it allows you to increase your max hp instead of getting an orison reward, new accounts struggle with having low health so it's one of the best wheels to use in arc 1
>>563936002No, you're probably going to struggle in ch5 and might not get past ch6. Doll is pretty bad until you have at least OE (and even then you should focus on Lotan then Ogier first).Goliath falls off and he's pretty much a stat stick and STR stealer without GMurphy. I don' use Alva a lot so I can't speak about her. See if you can include someone who applies Vulnerable and someone who can help gaining STR. If you have Sanga, you can replace Goliath with her and Doll with Ramona while you're building your roster and don't have better teammates for Kath. You'll still be missing on a source of Vulnerable, but this should be a better team than what you have. That should be enough shields to not worry too much about the lack of healing in your team.
>>563937061>I don' use Alva a lot so I can't speak about her. See if you can include someone who applies Vulnerableguess what alva does
>>563937186That makes things easier then, good thing I didn't tell him to replace her.Just replace Doll with Ramona and either keep Goliath or replace him with Sanga if you have her.
Can someone gimme a hand with team building? I'm gonna be honest, I started a short time ago (Xu) and still don't really know what I'm doing. I mostly use Daffodil as a STR buffer with Erogenous Tides because I don't have her Enlightens etc. What comps should I be running, like which ones are 'correct'?
>>563935573>Ultra and Chaos only>final verdict is SOULFORGE APTITUDE>dogshit E0-E3All this hype for what?
>>563936002>>563937061I thought Goliath would have nice synergy with Kath because he can stack str after getting roused, but I guess I'll have to get some better team instead of saving my cores until I clear story
>>563937565i don't really see the benefit of using sanga in that comp, her cards are too expensive and you'd mostly want to spend arith on kath. goliath at least can give kath str to burst. doll is replaceable but she's a good early source of weakness and she's useful vs ch 5 boss specifically because she can cleanse vuln
>>563937879Just disregard what I said, >>563937989 made fair points and you should be fine with this comp. I recommended Sanga because in turns where you need a lot of shields you can also use her Exalt for a good chunk of damage.
>>563936702>>563938497thx
>>563937719It just looks like Final Verdict was explained the first time it was mentionned.
briiii /r/gachagaming made a hitpiece on usshitting on morimens and evil devspraising chaos zero nightmare (czn) for insane half anniversaryeos third times the charm??
>>563937705Make sure to slowly level up everyone's soulforge. Also stop leveling madness omen, it's a waste of resources at this point in your progression.On the Castor/Pollux team I'd replace Daffo with Horla. Lemurians are fine. Vortice you can mix with chaos (Tawil, Hameln, Ramona) or Thais. Caro team should obviously get Thais who you seem to have but aren't using for some reason.Also get covenants. The best covenant set in the game (life drain) is unlocked after beating chapter 7.
>>563937719>Ultra and Chaos onlyThis is literally how every realm already works anyway. If you read their realm mechanic you'll find the exact same wording.
>>563939628I was Thais for a while, but I felt I was never using her (I was using her with Xu, Pollux and Castor and I never felt like copying a card was the best use of time and I'd only sometimes feed someone meter or apply weak/vuln).Hopefully I can get some more Aftershock units to run with Corpsant, she's one of my top 5 characters I like in this game so far.I'll go make sure I can get that Covenant asap, I think the only ones I have completed are I have a Steppenwolf and a Black Twins iirc
>>563939953the leaderboards on d-zone let you see how people are playing specific teams if you're unsure how a unit is supposed to workThais is considered the absolute best support in the game, for good reason, but most people have her at E2 where she discounts the copied cards by 2 (though if she's paired with Pickman, which is one of her most common pairings recently, she already works at E0 and E2 is borderline useless there)
>>563940402Mine is only e0 since I got her randomly
>>563940520yeah she's still very good with Salvador to copy his 2 cost
>>563939474that kind of sucks honestlythe game is so small and negative PR like that is pretty terrible, especially when the current mishaps are likely due to inexperience by the devs rather than malice
>>563939746Meanwhile they also sneaked in JP Ultra mechanics with Arachne. It's just LIES LIES LIES with NIGGERmens
>>563940675>JP UltraHow does it work in the JP version?
>>563940732They nerfed a lot and changed how certain mechanics work. The cooldown of Singularity Annihilation is a perfect example how we slowly getting JP mechanics down our throat.
>>563940675It's truly downhill since JP Morimens launched. They have completely different kits and enemy stats and they keep pushing their dogshit mechanics into Global, as well as the WoDs with the coomer illustrations that feel completely out of place. I wish they'd just keep using the stylish symbols instead. And still waiting for awakener cards with unique illustrations...
>>563940673Lickity lickity LICK how does that boot taste like?
>>563940675There's a difference between giving the jp mechanic to a new unit and changing how the realm mechanic works at a baseline. Stop being obtuse.
>>563941608>hey this slope is not that slippery yet
do not abuse the cat
>>563941883Should feed it to a shark.
>>563940675fuck off flares
So "lose 2% max hp", thats not lowering your actual maxhp cap is it?
>>563942314Are you trying to imply that /ourguy/ Flares123 might be wrong in his evaluation? I have you know that he is a man of character and faith. He is very smart and his reasoning is sound for whatever stance he might take in regards to any subject that crosses his and our lives.
>>563939474Expect an uptick in retardation and tourists
>>563942471I stand corrected. I will never badmouth Flares123 ever again.
>>563942463Most likely losing HP equal to 2% of your max HP.
>>563942463they clarified that it doesn't lower your max hp cap, you just take fixed damage
>>563942463No, it's like when a Caro awakener uses a "lose 10 current hp" effect. Looking at the wording, Arachne's effect will bypasses shields like with Caro and symptom cards, but not decrease your actual max hp like with GDoll's Finale firm 2-cost, which says "reduce max hp" rather than "lose." The game has always been consistent with the wording between "take damage," "lose hp," and "reduce hp" effects.
>>563934821I wish Tulu got that Wanda AA instead...
The new ultra mechanic doesnt specify that it resets arithmetica harmony. There's no way it doesnt, right?
>>563943451it probably doesand if the devs forgot about it then it will likely be hotfixed within a day or two after her release
>>563943542And awakeners dont seem to get their exalt cooldowns refreshed, which might actually be intentional because you could stack so many buffs in divine ultra otherwise.
>>563944416Winkle E3 STONKS
How it feels to be a Morifren rn
>>563945581Don't fall for demoralization tactics, the future is bright and full of wonder!
>>563945581LOVE LEIGH!
>>563945581Ryona gaming!
>>563939474>Death Resisted!Indie gacha with perpetual EoS spiral: "I am growing stronger."
Speaking of Leigh I really like her voice, it's second to Clem's for me
all this shitshow could be avoided if they let people test the new Etheral/Axiom stuff before rolling it out
man what the hell happened to this generalit used to be so comfy back when it moved from /vmg/
>>563946460it's still comfy when "he" is sleeping
>>563946460>smol indie dev team thinks they can pull a Mihoyo/Kurogames>gets reminded why theyre still a smol indie dev teamIt do be like that
>>563946715Except you're completely wrong on every account. I was part of the /vmg/ threads and I wasn't referring to the schizo you're thinking of.
>>563946924Apologies, then.
>>563946131Did you know she can sing, too? Truly the best.
i want the 1 week threads with kind and supportive anons back..
Talk about the game.
>>563947060>Did you know she can sing, too?No I didn't.>check her quotes>Chat: What I LikeThat's fucking adorable
>reminiscing the /vmg/ daysWhy yes, 1 week of fuck all activity, only broken by the ocassional post asking 'is dis good?'Just like Resonance Solstice, Last Origin, Silver and Blood, Haze Reverb et cetera et cetera
>>563947164Since Arachne has the Necrobinder's doom mechanic, I wonder, will a future awakener have the Necrobinder's pet mechanic?
>>563947303Players have been asking for a summoner awakener for a long time and last year Light announced they got permission to release characters inspired in Slay the Spire, so keep poking him until he does that. Maybe we can get a Cerberus tamer one day.
>>563947282shit wrong image...
>>563947303Saya will summon Fuminori who will have his own pursuit attack with an axe
>>563947419no that was the right image
>>563947414>Cerberus tamerSo, alternate timeline Lily? Or alternate timeline Lily's mom??
are we having some kind of IQ debuff? I notice i keep making stupid ass moves in game since this morning
>>563947414>and last year Light announced they got permission to release characters inspired in Slay the SpireThey needed permission to do that?
>>563947679Probably not, but they did indeed ask anyway.
why would devs even change mechanics just for a specific region? seems like more work that is completely unnecessary
>>563948748because it's more interesting I guessI think they're unhappy with the original design of the realms, especially stuff like being able to annihilate or white stance every turn
>>563948748jp is the "director's cut" version of morimens, according to light
>>563948748i heard they were made to by the JP publisher due to how they like their gachas over there, dunno how true that is though
>>563948748Publisher wanted JP Morimens to be the original donut steal version of the game.The WoDs with fully colored illustrations you see in events are also something we got from JP.
>>563948748i wouldn't pin it on the jp publisher, seeing how light keeps on exporting jp realm mechanics to global
>>563935573kit is too complicated, will wait for the Flares review
>>563949240>>563949819>director's cuteverything I've heard about the JP version makes it sound like the standards/ "easier to acquire" resources are weaker while the rarer and more powerful limiteds are even more busted to incentivize paypigginghow is this preferable to the global version
>>563950102It might be that Light simply finds the more complex kits of JP limiteds more interesting, but yeah, the limiteds being so much stronger than on Global is a problem. Hopefully Global only ever gets "divine realms" and not entire kit changes like that. It could very well be the JP publisher pushing for some of the upcoming changes, too, just on both JP and Global to keep them more in-line with each other. I don't know, the whole JP situation always felt fucky to me.
>>563950065no weak/vuln in kit = no utility = c tier
>>563950065lucky you, he already made one
>>563953826>37 minutes>"B to S tier"Okay so this isn't worth watching at all.
I hope they'll give out more prototype horizions now.
>>563954501Nothing of value in any of "his" vids
>>563954721we still don't know how the excess dupe system worksif I was Light this would've been the very first thing I'd show players in the patch preview and then try to sneak in the more questionable changes without much focus
>>563954721Patch overview said we will get some kind of "shards" when we get a dupe of a +12 awakener or wheel. Not sure how many shards we'll need to craft the selector items, but hopefully it's fairly low.
>>563954501He says that depending on how her mechanics work once he gets his hands on her, she might be S tier. Otherwise B so far. Would him give out a set in stone rating before even knowing how she plays better? Some of you are utterly retarded.
>>563956053What's retarded is to put out a video giving a rating to an unreleased char, while misunderstanding half of that char's kit.
>As for the Absolute Axioms that are about to go live — some of them did end up stronger than we had originally planned. This is largely a gap between intent and execution, and it’s difficult to change at this point because some of you may have already started investing resources.>What we can commit to as a correction: V2.5.1 and the versions that follow will strengthen the weaker Axioms to bring the overall balance closer to where we want it — closer to the vision that every character has a reasonable chance to see play. We will also continue to make sure the game does not assume Absolute Axiom possession when designing stages. If there are moments where a technical constraint forces a short-term deviation from that principle, we commit to repairing those deviations through subsequent adjustments.
>V2.5.1 preview>We will be strengthening the base kits of many characters so they can better adapt to the new environment. As we’ve said before, Absolute Axiom is not meant to be a baseline assumption for character strength. Strengthening the base kits directly is how we uphold that.>The specific list of base kit improvements for V2.5.1, along with the Absolute Axiom adjustment plan, will be communicated through a devlog before they go live. This will also be the first time I’m making good on the “advance communication” commitment I discuss later in this letter — please hold me to it using that devlog as the test.
the cat is alright
>>563957298>some of them did end up stronger than we had originally planned.Are they retarded or just dishonest?
>>563957507i hope the former because the latter would arguably be worse.
>>563957507i'm 99% convinced that they don't have a single formal design framework in place and they just vibe everything on the spot so definitely the former
>>563957298>As for the Absolute Axioms that are about to go live — some of them did end up stronger than we had originally planned. This is largely a gap between intent and execution, and it’s difficult to change at this point because some of you may have already started investing resources.lol fucking snake. I cut Light a lot of slack but this is just brazen.
>>563957831It's a pretty big mistake but to play devil's advocate, if we're being completely fair the response (especially from CN/KR) to literally ANY nerf even on unrelease content is much worse than anything they've gotten from these patch notes so I can believe the last part (eventho in an ideal world they would just nerf shit without fear but alas)
>>563958046a.) Its been "released" for a DAYb.) he knew this would be the case when he dumped 40 fucking axiom kits at once which absolutely nobody wanted him to do
>Why V2.5 was the moment>Our 2.5 anniversary is approaching. I believed V2.5.0 was the best window to clean up the game’s historical issues, because our plan for the second half of the year is to bring in more players through some marketing efforts. Making these changes after that window could have led to more painful outcomes — possibly even derailing the entire plan for this year.>The intent behind the V2.5 changes was:>Absolute Axiom: to give Keepers who invest all the way to +12 on a character they love something meaningful at the end of that investment, rather than it feeling pointless.>Ethereal Cores: to safely distribute more pull currency, without the long-term damage caused by gray-market account farming.>Seasonal gameplay rotation: to fix the “rewards too low to motivate play” problem that emerged after the V2.4 workload reduction, and to address the structural issue that old modes grow stale while new modes have nowhere to slot in.
>>563958254I think a LOT of players, especially older ones were excited for AA on standard units, the contention point was the knowledge that it was inevitably going to extend to limited units which would brick the economy, I think they just decided to rip the bandaid at once (not saying it was the right choice)
>What we can commit to as a correction: V2.5.1 and the versions that follow will strengthen the weaker Axioms to bring the overall balance closer to where we want it — closer to the vision that every character has a reasonable chance to see play. Again this also makes no sense for the AA vision. AA should not be about balance because then you're doing balance changes via +12 which he just said he wasnt going to do. its still a giant mistake. the embarrassing part is that the number of people who actually own some of these these AAs will be like in the dozens. all this nonsense for almost nobody's benefit.
>>563957507I think they're just biased towards some of the characters. They clearly knew what they were doing with Thais, Tawil, GMurphy etc but then just gave up with like Hameln or Ryker. The devs just have favorites, which is kind of normal.>>563958472I think what he means is balancing them in relation to one another. So all AAs should feel roughly similar in strength instead of some feeling overpowered while other like complete trash.
>>563958405so they "ripped the bandaid", then oops teehee a lot of them are too strong, now we have to buff all limited AAs forever to be broken as shit 5x better than anything in the game, also Doresain's fixes structural issues with his kit. How is this anything other than a complete disaster?
Looking forward to buffs to Gmurphy's weak ass AA!
>>563958948>complete disasterI agree it should be a nerf instead of a buff but I also don't think it's that big of a deal as long as the content is as easy as it currently is, certainly nothing to make me piss and shit myself
>>563958370His reasoning sounds adequate honestly. I'll reserve judgment for his last point though until we see the actual implementation because I really liked the "workload reduction". The fewer chores the better.
/mori/ died.
Remember how this feature was sold to us. Aurita's +12 is that her strike hits two extra times. Aigis' defend plays three times. And look at what we actually got for the limiteds, and now theyre saying its too late to nerf any of them before theyve even released into the game and every limited +12 is going to be on the level of Tawil getting Hameln's exalt stapled onto his own, or flat out kits being fixed like Doresain's. I cant understand how anyone can be on Light's side here this was horrible.
>>563959323For some reason they never want to count d-tide as one of the chores even though its the chore that everyone does.
>>563958948This is how Doresain should've been handled imo: The overflow damage should've been his made into his E3. Old E3 replaces E2 which would either become baseline or removed because it's fucking terrible anyway. Then the AA can be the hp% damage but let it also trigger when the boss switches phases, i.e. every phase will start at 80% hp instead of just the first.
>>563959762?d-tide is the content the absolute majority of players do, if anything d-tide IS the game for most people, if you see it as a chore i'm not sure why you're playing the game
>>563959762Yeah, I usually end up doing d-tide on the last day because there's other stuff to do on other days, like event stages and such. I don't think I really like the "endgame" mode in any gacha honestly, they do feel like chores that you have to do every 2 weeks or you're missing out on major rewards.
"Keeper of Secrets, my Tohuwabohu Watching Device has determined that Doresain is currently trapped and in great danger, but to further refine the range of the dissolution machina and derive the exact coordinates of the location where he is being held, you need to provide specific control values which can be found on the front of your personal credit or debit card of choice, as well as the 3 digit Silver Key authentication code on the back of that card." - Doll
I'm glad Light addressed some of the complaints. Still in wait-and-see mode, though, since the patch isn't even out yet. AAs being strong doesn't bother me if content remains at the current difficulty level, and I'm not too worried about ethereal cores or the new weeklies since they've already walked a bunch of it back anyway. Imma chill instead of worry.
>>563960335based!
Wait so BIAV WAS really trying to larp as Kurogames and thought they were cooking? What kinda copium are they chuffing over there?
You guys are going to also approve when light explains they have to make giga harder content for the now-bored +12 owners who cant be challenged by anything in the game anymore.
Regarding Doresain — I’m fully aware that his is one of the Axioms where we went too far with the design. I’m not in a position to share the specific plan with you yet, because I need to have a more thorough conversation with the combat designers first — there will be a dedicated devlog on this. But this is absolutely the first issue we’re focused on solving as we work on the Absolute Axiom adjustments for V2.5.1.
I agree there should ber something for +12 but some AA are just not balanced
>>563960791how about you dont post until something in the realm of that scale happens
unfuckingironically should I just go play czn? is it good?
>>563960985Yes please, we can do with fewer doomposters!
>>563960824watch them just remove the overflow effect and leave the rest of his kit as is lmao
Considering how ass-blasted some people are about AAs being too strong, maybe they should start having AA Meetings.
Rando:>When are they gonna give this item out again? With Axioms dropping out of nowhere, we definitely need itLight:>V2.5
>>563960824What Devlog are they going to make that will justify Daffodil putting one skull crusher into ultra space once vs Doresain's AA? There isnt going to be a satisfying answer its just retarded
Shut up and look at these!
>>563961351ironically enough Daff's AA is now actually pretty decent with Arachne
>>563961364Lotan is already looking at these. Helot's distraction tactics don't work on her...
>>563961226the sound of hundreds of helots dissolving in unison...
Now that the dust has settled, how do we feel about the future of morimens?
>>563961770No no, she can still be used with Moosh. Pandia is the one getting tossed into the black pool en masse.
>>563961795Personally I'm excited, every single current change means more rewards and higher power levels across the board with next version's buffs, we're getting a rewind cone soon and the roadmap looks promising
>>563961795The future is being told to pull a Tawil and you'll have her +12 in just fifteen months of shop dupes
>>563961795Looking forward to apology silver
>>563961795Should be okay when Light isnt larping as Hypergryph/MihoyoWell maybe he can larp as MICA, those guys also suffered
>>563961071Alright. I will be waiting you on vmg.
>>563962212Never been there never will!
>>563962156We're still going to get the 10k silver in 10 days that they promised the other day, so I doubt we'll get any more than that.
>>563962198Not a /gfg/fag, how bad did MICA had?
>>563961795I dont think its caught up to OE owners how cucked they are now, +4 used to be this motivating chase point for a lot of players and now its just garbage.
>>563962463spoken like a true 325 d-tide sweat
Since last thread this place feels very reddit
>>563962458
>>563962645>that womanHe dares speak her name...!
>>563962389I trust in King Doresain's fans, they will make Light kneel
>>563961795A small team who's in debt to financers lives and dies on its public image to pull in new players to generate more revenue and they are tanking their image. It doesn't even matter how much he apologizes to morimens players because what matters is external opinion and all they see is drama and reddit hit pieces shortly before h-anni.
>wakes up>drama>sleeps>wakes up>nothingburger>sleeps>repeats
>>563963108Cool you can now finally quit the game and stop bitching
Light can't be the same as mica because mica are a bunch of retarded chinksects that have no idea what they are doing. At the very least Light knows what morimens is supposed to be.
There is no way its just 1 schizo going apeshit on cooldown, right?
>>563964389indeed it is
Holy they are still paying off debt. If you spend money of the game, you paying for a new yatch of a chink jew
>>563964389Some of the posts read very same-yAnd we are very fast right now. I doubt that so many old players returned to bitch about light.
>all this drama>no surely there is no way there can be multiple people feeling negative about the game after this huge shitshowYeah it's just one guy
>>563964819nah i have my issues as well with the whole AA thing. but one schizo writes five times the amount
Poor guys who spend all their silver on Luminous Cores in preparation for Saya collab only for them to announce new currency
>>563965185can you even read
no, thats what flares is for
but he got half the shit wrong...
>>563964649Based Sangagod
>We are planning to redesign God King · Tulu in V2.7, and the voice actor will naturally change as a result.GTULU WILL BE FEMALE
>>563966352>turning the feminine shota into an ugly grown manis this even legal?
>>563966630Just let morimori die.
I am extremely aggravated by the fact that +12 lvl 90 Gmurphy has a stronger whale buff than +12 lvl 90 Daffodilf2p btw
>>563966754same sis, i wrote a strongly worded letter detailing the current situation, hope we get proper closure...
>>563966352hol up
>Update: I want to share where we’ve landed on Absolute Axiom and the cases where the design went too far — Doresain being the clearest example. The combat design team and I have just reached an alignment on our approach.>In order for Absolute Axiom to serve its intended purpose — without trapping us in an unnecessary balance spiral — V2.5.1 will move a portion of the overpowered Axiom abilities into the character’s base kit at 0E.>Using Doresain as the example: 50% of his damage overflow effect will become part of his base kit.>This change will not alter the final effect of any Axiom already committed to, but it may affect how you plan your Axiom investments going forward. Doresain is likely not the only case — we’ll keep reviewing others.
>>563967298that says Zero E, right? Not OE?
>>563967298do they not do saturdays in chyna or
>>563964819>>563964943I have issues about AA. My awakeners that I considered "completed" (OE) are now just half a character they were supposed to be.But there's really no point writing long paragraphs about it, as the only question I must ask myself is should I quit or not, and I'm still deciding.
>>563967594Communists don't need weekends.
>>563967298>>563967593E0 or OE???
>>563967298>>563967704verbatim from his post:>In order for Absolute Axiom to serve its intended purpose — without trapping us in an unnecessary balance spiral — V2.5.1 will move a portion of the overpowered Axiom abilities into the character’s base kit at 0E.it's a zero
>>563967769 (Me)wait the other anon also copypasted im retarded
>>563967769thats great, no? instead of getting AA to balance things out, they actually work on their kits.
>>563967298W mans
>>563966352>>563966630He will be back being shota.
>>563967880yeah they said pretty much everyone is getting base kit buffs next patch, looks good to me
>>563967704>>563967593
>>563967880yes putting some of the retarded AA stuff into base kit buffs has been the actual good news from the past 48 hours (besides arachne kit)if corposant's Pilot gets a buff at E0 too I'lĺ still think AA was a mistake but I'll chill out a bit.
>>563968174devs listened! i hope they buff the bad AAs before putting them into the kits.
Anyone else think AA is a good idea? I am a whale but I am quite bad at the game and can't do 400. With AA, it would be quite possible. There are only 400 people doing 400+ currently so AA will make it more accessible, which is a good thing
"Good. Now, buff Wanda."
>>563967621>I must ask myself is should I quit or notbro you can't be serious
>>563968596Problem is that you couldn't trust BIAV to keep the bar for 400 the same.The HP of A5 bosses has nearly tripled during last year alone, who would know what they'll do next.
is GHelot really that bad for newfags? I just started recently and she makes my dick hard but I heard she needs a lot of investment to really do anything
>>563969287Come back to czn with me
>>563968991What was the excuse for tripling the boss HP last time?
>>563969287as a fellow newfag i built my team around her and have been doing fine, it's a pretty fun comp, there have just been one or two bosses so far in the whole story that seem to cuck burst comps but i still got through them.i did get lucky and get her e3 though as well as e0 thais and e1 horla.
>>563969287Not bad but not optimal. GHelot is a hypercarry so she need to be as invested as possible. Unlike Xu, who is a poison enabler and fit into every poison team. For noob though, she is fine for 99% of the content. Generally, hypercarry like Ghelot and Pollux are very expensive to play in the endgame. The only exception is Mouchette. She is a hypercarry but she is so strong she can do endgame content with minimal investment
Can't wait for Daff's buff to be a free strike before AA
>>563967298I can't believe it's actually happening! 50% overflow sounds like a great middle ground.
>>563968960Quitting when a game you're playing is going in a direction you don't like seems normal to me.I put a lot of time and money into the game and I still enjoy doing dtide every two weeks, but AA just really rubbed me wrong.>>563969342It's gradual and arguably still going on, there's a lot of buffs to player power since last year so they need to adjust dtide accordingly, and AA is going be the latest one on the top of that.
>>563968013this is probably it (hopefully)aging him up would create some weird continuity issues they'd need to explain
>>563969894Why don't they make uber Dtide which scale infinitely so all the tryhard can have their fun in there? I imagine most people would be fine with AA if A5 difficulty stays the same but A6 is super hell.
>>563968960The reddit spacing should make it obvious you talk to a retard. Nobody sane is thinking about quitting a game over the devs being retarded for 2 days and walking everything back and even improving.
>>563970560yeah fuck that
>>563970560I personally hate infinite scaling in games. It's a cheap way for devs to not have to balance their game properly.
>>563967298>inb4 Thais exalt gets to create 3 copies at E0Imagine the seethe
>>563970619>reddit spacingThe retard in here might be you.
>>563970969nah literally no way it would happen
>>563970969everyone focusing on doorstain but i still think thais AA is the most egregious, only way it's saved somewhat is if the copy is a true copy and not a -2 one
Just downloaded the game who should I be rolling for
>>563971650the cutest one
Plan truster vindicatedAlways trust the plan
>>563971425I mean its overpowered but Thais is already overpowered, its not like +1 copy is fixing problems with her kit because her kit has no problems (aside from her keyflare scaling being weird to actually build around)
>>563966352Ngl I would probably drop the game if that happens.
>>563971425Flare said it's broken. I trust him.
>>563971650as a new player you should be rolling on that select 4 banner and you should ideally pick Thais, Hameln, Horla and a character of your choice
>>563971957good thing there's 0% chance of it happening, the devs are not retarded enough to genderbend one of the few male characters the game has
thinking about dropping the game if light won't suck my cock
Please keeper do not engage in sexual acts with the school cat.
>>563976259He was asking for it. Alright.
>>563977386let's quit together? it clearly won't get better
I’m glad that my comment about considering quitting has provoked our resident retard to seeth and mald.>>563970969I think Thais' AA was okay because you'd have to rouse her. My problem were mainly with the DPS since you always rouse them first so it's just free damage, and some like Kath are particularly egregious in power jump.
>>563977657come on. i need someone to give me the last push. the game sucks and i can't deal with this rollercoaster anymore. let's quit together?
>>563977941There's really not a lot of alternatives. I like CZN but it just doesn't get complicate enough, most of the time you don't even have to consider how to survive, which is a big part of the challenge imo.
>>563977657this might be cute if it weren't AI slop
>>563978579who cares about alternatives if the morimens experience is so miserable that we keep thinking about quitting forever. right? why else would we keep talking about quitting? surely the next time biav fucks up will be the time we will quit. right? let that next time be this time. right?
>>563978579Mecharashi is a very good alternative if you want gacha games that need brains to play. Endgame contents are practically undoable if you read guides or spend hours figuring out. Every 6 months or so, the game release an absolutely bonker units which invalidate most contents up to that point so new players can always catch up without being left behind.
>>563979675Neo Artifacts is getting released soon and is apparently something similar to mecha.
>>563977941That faggot isn't quitting. All he does is pretend. Just like his faggotfriends on R*ddit. Well he should keep it there instead of shitting in this thread.
I'm feeling much better about the new patch, so I'm gonna get to bed. Have a good Saturday, /mori/.
>>563980251I am pretty sure the guy has supported morimens for far longer than you but then again you are nothing more than a vgeet.
>>563980437sleep tight fren
>>563980539Less talking. More quitting.
At least the drama is keeping this thread alive. Mecharashi made 10x this game and its thread is dying on /vmg/
>>563980437beating you to sleep but in a good way
>>563980701Fuck off, faggot.
>>563981250You first
now kiss
O-only if he initiates it...
i cant beat 9-3 with my ghelot team without a gnosis..
>>563982221Just spam gnosis in normal mode, you can wait until hard mode to optimize.
>240 posts in 10 hoursthis is the fastest thread we've ever hadat least it seems we're slowing back to comfy levels
Why does this need to happen, don't the devs play their kusoge? Do they want PR out of the drama? What is going on, you clearly know and can see that a 50% overflow will make people rage on a character that a lot of people were waiting to get buffed.I just don't get it man but we here until Saya anyway.
>GoodDEVS LISTENED moment addressing the pain points with most immediate effect on everyone's experience (Ethereal Cores and daily/weekly rewards changing).Rolling partial AA effects into the E0 kits of characters that really need it.>BadPart of their already limited dev time will be spent on rebalancing weak AAs. At this rate, low Es that are absolutely useless will never be revised, and E0 revamps might happen at an even slower pace now.Increasing the disparity in number of male and female awakeners. A big waste because Morimens is one of the very few gachas in the market that makes really cool male characters and it doesn't deal with SEApags who want gachas to pander to ML waifufags only.Tulu's getting a new VA, meaning the same thing that happened to base Murphy will happen to his base awakener version. They should just keep the voice lines as is for the original awakener and only give their Genesis version voice lines recorded by the new VA. Light confirming they'll redesign him in his Genesis version probably means the players who said it's going to be a fully matured Tulu are right (which I really enjoy actually and hope they make a character as cool as Logos from AK).>UglyArc 3 getting pushed back significantly."We didn't get g-greedy, I swear!"
>>563983085They didn't read moby dick. You don't chase whales or you lose sight of everything. (I haven't read it either)
>>563983128Wait why are assuming that regular Tulu will have re recorded lines? We've already heard GTulu's voice so the redesign increases the odds of him NOT getting aged up.
am I supposed to hoard my stamina as a newfag?
>>563983085they've said that they'll make base kit changes too when necessaryand you're underestimating the 50% overflow, in a regular fight Doresain can now setup for a full wipe by just whittling down the weakest enemy and exalting when it's almost dead
>>563983128>Tulu's getting a new VA, meaning the same thing that happened to base Murphy will happen to his base awakener version.actually speaking of which this bit confused me, cause Murphy and GMurphy have different seiyuus listed in the archives section but I read that GMurphy's seiyuu re-recorded Murphy's lines?
>>563983593>>563984045Might be a contractual restriction or just Light wanting things to be consistent. When they hired Murphy's new voice actress, she got all her lines re-recorded and they even redid the Ch6 trailer with new voice lines. This comes off as a precedent for the same thing happening to Tulu as well.This part here in his announcement also suggests that:>We are planning to redesign God King · Tulu in V2.7, and the voice actor will naturally change as a result. Looking back at 2.0, we had almost nothing to work with, and the current design was finalized in a rush just to stay on schedule. The silhouette shown in the 2.0 trailer made people believe that in order to represent him in his God King form, they'd age him up, so who knows, maybe they'll keep him as a shota or commit to mature Tulu being a thing.
>>563983897not really, I'd keep some amount like 20-50 as a safety net in case I need to farm a specific material right now, but the rest should be spent on an event, especially if you have the character and their wheel (for example having Tulu, his SSR and SR wheels increases the drops from the Tulu event)the reason you want to spend them is because keeper level is very important and it's tied to spending stamina
>>563983897No, spam events. Newfags need account exp the most.
>>563982507i am just kinda annoyed by suddenly having like 3-4 separate boss fights back to back that all have some flavor of fortress stacking mechanics on every phase change that make my comp useless
>>563982568It's a dead, shit general now.
>>563984587yeah the eyes seem difficult at first but you'll slowly figure their mechanics out and learn how to counter them, unga bunga is just not going to work in this particular case
>>563983897Save your stamina refills for events, they have rewards targeted at high level players, so you'll get massive power spikes for your account. For events with shops, prioritize purple items such as EXP bottles, promotion materials and skill upgrade materials. The sooner you get lvl 60 characters, the better for your story progression and endgame modes.
>>563984294>The silhouette shown in the 2.0 trailer made people believe that in order to represent him in his God King form, they'd age him up, so who knows, maybe they'll keep him as a shota or commit to mature Tulu being a thing.Well it was clearly an adult Tulu so people were naturally expecting it but now it's kinda strange why they would change his VA because he already sounded perfect so it must be female or he stays a shota.Or it's old man Tulu
>>563985209>so it must be femaledelusional
>>563985446The artist just gave up on drawing his lower leg parts
Whoever decided to make you move to vg was a peak faggot.
Whoever decided to make us move to vg was a genius.
Murphy's case:>old trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t10vKl6BXo8>re-recorded trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXr_2_9BhBQ
>>563985905they both sound... fine honestly
One thing I like about Chapter 5 was how it started with the Keeper, waking up on the ship, with memory loss, with only Tulu and Murphy accompanying them (whom the player hasn't been introduced to in the story yet outside of Murphy in one flashback) and Ramona MIA and having no idea what the fuck is going onIt was a really good way to disorient you and pull you into how the Keeper is probably feeling at that moment
What's a good team to tackle wave 5. It's been destroying me.
>>563984294notice how careful the wording is to allow NuTulu to be female.
>>563987775I cleared it with Vortice + Nautila GDollE3 Murphyand Pickman Doresain Thais Pandia (all E3)alert4 tho
should I pick up GDoll E3 or Ra E3 first?
>>563988075I'm just after A3. So I'll try it out after the weekly refresh. Thanks anon.
>>563988397I only did A3 too with GMurphy OE / Tulu E0 / Myriam E0 / Goliath OE and it was pretty comfy. I'd check the leaderboards and see what teams are being used in W5 in case you still have trouble with it.
>>563988196Kath E3
>>563987775borrow a lvl 90 kath with the def covenant, she does literally everything herself
>>563988397the Vortice clear was much easier btw so of the two I recommend that one
>>563989126I already borrowed a doll to clear waves 3 alert 5 so I could use my doll with tawil.>>563992356I was going to do that. I just figured some soulforge levels would be better than going in SL0.
why are people seething about the changes when in another post devs mentioned that they want to make a statless mode for StS autists? this mode would make all incentives to whale obsolete
>>563995691It's been 8 months since they start talking about sts mode, and the only thing they have to show for it was train mode.
Divine realms are so weird. They should just bite the bullet and change realms to the jp mechanics instead of this weird half measure that is going to cause problems later down the line.
>>564000316A big change like that would probably feel too abrupt for all the veteran players and a risky bet, so they'd rather make players become slowly used to it by introducing more and more awakeners that force divine realm mechanics.I wouldn't be surprised if the gimmick of Arc 3 turns out to be just making divine realms the default mechanic.
>>564000316I actually like the way they are doing it, where it's tied to specific characters personally.
Morimori
mogged by czn kek
cuddling with my bf while i do dtide
>Thais's letter to you on her birthdaydamn just on looks, lines in the detail section, and her reproduction powers I thought she was just straight evil; she's pretty sweet
>>564017952that's a lot of assumptions
Zzzz
>>564018858I think the only unreasonable assumption is the one involving how her wheel works. If it had been me, I probably would have calculated on the assumption that it works like mouchette instead of vortice(because I tend to err on the side of assuming the worst and would rather be pleasantly surprised than disappointed). But we'll know in a day or so.
still gay that releases are on mondays
>>564028121You mean Sunday night right anon?
>>564028267equally homosexual!
>the infected general didn't archiveWorst timeline
Reminder: if there is a single part of the past 48 hours you are mildly dissatisfied by you are a FAKE FAN who needs to uninstall immediately.
>>564017952>we now have theorycraftersBased!Though I think the comparisons should be only between different levels of investment for the character alone i.e. assumptions about the relics, amp on allies, posse etc should be identical in all cases. Maybe even soulforge because it's not unrealistic for someone to just save up on mats and immediately get the new character to 10.
>The Stage chapter Effect "Arithmetica Harmony" of "Astral Reign" has been adjusted: After activating Ultra Space, the Arithmetica Harmony Effect will now also be reset.
>>564034026>ultra turn didn't reset harmonyHoly shit. I legit didn't realize it didn't because the only ultra teams I play don't trigger harmony to begin with.
>>564034289ultra turn does reset harmony, the change is for Arachne's ultra realm mechanic which just continues your turn instead of starting a new one
goodbye wheel banner
translating some of the chink replies to updates on dc makes the eng doomposters look like wholesome babies, they have zero chill
>>564034949>10 excess standard dupes (or 5 limited) for a limited selectorSo for old accounts who have every standard at +12, you'll get a selector every ~200 standard pulls which on average is around the same amount as for a faded legacy awakener. Not bad.
>>564035482I'd take kino schizoids talking about dogs and your mother over our whiny little 'i'm quitting this time for shure' faggotrannies any day of the week.
>>564035482yeah cn fucking hates light lmaothey always screech the loudest and tell him to kill himself when drama happens
>>564035482That's chinks for you. It's pretty fun to read angry chink posts in general. >I will find your dog mother, tear off her head, shit down her throat and then rape the shit filled hole before eating the corpseThey all have that kind of psychopathic energy.
>>564035482The AA changes mostly affect players with a lot of limiteds at OE but not many +12. There's a lot more of those in CN than in EN, since most of EN playerbase are either new or casuals who are just happy for 10k jims.
>game is still in the redWe truly are powerful! Another 500% death resistance!!
>praising chinksectsthe vmgeets are here
>>564036067>>564036162I don't think you play the game. Post account.
>>564034949Welcome to character jail, bwos
>>564036246tranny got maaaad no pride month in londinium eh kill yourself
Gacha revenue decline is a primary warning sign of End of Service (EoS), specifically when a game's earnings consistently drop below operating costs. Key indicators include long-term revenue stagnation, reduced developer investment, lack of new content, or an influx of "rerun" events.
>>564036246Don't feed it. Just ignore it.
>>564036342Let it die.
>>564036512You really had to reply to yourself for that?
Hey, if any newcuties are in the thread, I need just 1 more of you to use my invitation code to get Doll's skin. Here's the code:GZHC63226D
is the update tomorrow
>>564036669yesh
>>564036512I am too used to when the thread was too dead for vmgeets. I'll stop.
>cried all day and night about quitting>still here
now soulforge mats are in weekly ranking rewards too
>>564034949>+11 incalc+12 Pandia SOON
new player and retard here. do the changes mean more rolls for me?
>>564038398If you mean this >>564034949You're not getting +12 standards any time soon so no.
>>564038398As a new player nothing really changes in the short term, you still want to do the standard roll some basic characters > +12 blade > think about what you want to do next. But in the long term you eventually can get some character selectors and after blade character jail is very likely where you are headed. This is quite long term though.
>>564038398if they true to what they said about ethereal cores being an extra on top of current rewards then yes
Holyfuck, just let it archive at this point
>>564038569what are blade characters?
>>564038739characters holding blades duh
>>564038739You mean basic characters? Mostly just enough to fill out a few teams and give you options.
>tranny got so mad xhe reported getting called outshould be more ashamed crying about quitting like a little bitch and still be here, alice
>Missions & Rewards>[Taboo Quests]>"Phantasmal Dive", "Traphase: All Pick", "Traphase: Draft Pick", "Hectic Skybound Rail" will be revamped into seasonal modes, with each season lasting 28 days, rotating on a weekly basis.>Each game mode has its own independent Seasonal Mission rewards and seasonal ranking rewards per season.>Seasonal Mission rewards have been unified to "Silver" ×250 and "Pure Core" ×5, which are newly added rewards following this update.>The seasonal ranking rewards have added "Dreamspark" and "Dreamshard" on top of the original weekly ranking rewards, helping everyone grow stronger faster in the second half of Astral Reign. You can earn up to "Formless One's Gift Card" ×30, "Rose Scrip" ×1500000, "Dreamspark" ×50, and "Dreamshard" ×100.>The Seasonal Mission requirements for different game modes are as follows:>"Phantasmal Dive": Win 3 times in "Phantasmal Dive".>"Traphase: All Pick": Win 5 times in "All Pick" mode.>"Hectic Skybound Rail": Defeat the Phase 3 Boss 1 time in "Hectic Skybound Rail" on any difficulty. Accordingly, the Keeper and Awakener strength in this mode will automatically be raised to Level 60, Skill Level 5, Madness Omen 6, and Soulforge Aptitude 5.>"Traphase: Draft Pick": Win 5 times in "Draft Pick".
>>564038739blade of the titan, it's a SSR wheel you can select in the standard wheel selector. Usually people start going for a +12 titan blade after they get enough characters for dtide. Reason being you can equip two SSR wheels if one is +12, and titan blade is a good one.
>>564038398Nothing is changing specifically for new players because anything that might come after this update will impact the endgame, like future story chapters, (speculation) new difficulties/d-tide waves and so on.>>564038739Anon means first you roll to get a core roster for the story, then max dupes of the most important standard wheel (blade of the titan) and after that you'll use pure cores to roll on standard banners forever. Well, unless you decide to suffer the incalc jail too, then that's another standard wheel to +12.
>mandatory traphase
>my mouchette lost to counter againYou gotta fucking kidding me. Fuck N
>>564038935Can you just fuck off to czn or bag or whatever shithole you came out of?
>>564039108eh, the current weekly rewards dont change so these are just an extra compared to now, you can safely skip if you dont rike the trap
>>564039121
>>564039121Don't be a stubborn Keeper and slot in your Pandia. I know you have her at OE or higher.
>>564039121pandia or stun him when he tries to do the attack that gives him counter
>>564039108I'm not playing Traphase and they can't make me
I only have E3 Mouchette, so I couldn't really test it myself, but after she stuns an enemy with her OE, can you stun them again with Aigis or are they immune to all stuns?I guess I could simply borrow someone's Mouchette to test it, but...
>>564039851Apparently they are separate stuns so yes.
>>564039851i have oe mouchette and yes, it's 2 separate stuns so immunity doesn't overlap
>>564039851They're not the same status (Petrify vs Fainted) so you can stall 2 turns with each of them.
>>564039971>>564040126>>564040136That's really good. I should grab her OE at some point then since I already use her with Helot, Thais and Aigis.Thanks.
>>564038984>5 traphase wins per week on top of all the other shit you have to dothese devs are completely out of their mind
>WINS INSTEAD OF MATCHES>WINS INSTEAD OF MATCHES>WINS INSTEAD OF MATCHESI'm going to melty, it's like they've learned nothing.
>>564040879Wins instead of matches is the reason why I quit Shadowverse 2. At least Light isn't insane enough to make it the daily quest yet like Cygames did.
>>564040879Wins is really my only problem with it. Sometimes you just get bad luck with matchups.
>>56404087950% of the battles are bots anyway so easy wins.
>>564041775That's only true at low ranking.
>>564041775and then you reach 2k and suddenly there are no bots anymore, it's just people playing meta teams because they need to tryhard and get their WINS as fast as possible so they can be done with it
>>564041775The moment you hit 1800+ you'll start seeing tryhards very often and some matches takes 15+ minutes.
>>564039224>>564039249>>564039336I guess she worked better than Helot. I wish you could see the boss's kit before entering though.
>>564042062Good job!
good /mori/ning~
>>564042707thx
>>564042062https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QYciqHJY3BilDcdvBiIT_dOqXOdqGX-4FBDj5rL6qyA/edit?usp=sharing
Devs should release some horrors with big tits, it's the only way to avoid EoS
>>564046764Wrong thread.
>>564046764See >>564044158
>>564034949I would've preferred a better ratio but 10:1 isn't too bad. Now all they need to do is not rape d-tide balance and get red of this shit >>564038984. Just have those be the new weeklies so that everyone's happy.
>other nobles scheme against Dexter which results in bankruptcy>to pay off the debt Ramona has to work in a brothel pleasuring old fat perverts
>>564048336The 10:1 is "fine" but the 5:1 for excess limiteds is... not great. I was honestly expecting 2:1 or 3:1. Still much much better than what we had before so I won't complain. Good change overall.
>>564050148Fuck off N
>>564050709Remember that these can spook you on banners anon. You'll think it's a load of bullshit until it happens to you It's how I got my E3 Wanda
>>564050845ive actually been tempted to try and pull for wanda bc of her skin, eventho i know she's bad...
>>564050845well I guess the excess thing will only kick in for whales because they'll be the only ones with a bunch of limited +12 charactersfor me I'll probably get a +12 or two eventually so this would just make me less likely to buy the 5 SSR deals when they include a character I already have maxed outthen again their value already goes down the drain if you get a wheel you already have at A3 anyway...
>>564044158>>563961364
>>564037949You have to play and get high ranks at traphase to get soulforge shards. This is a complete fucking nightmare.
>>564037949>>564053134these are additional ones on top of what we already get
>>564038984>You can earn up to "Formless One's Gift Card" ×30, "Rose Scrip" ×1500000, "Dreamspark" ×50, and "Dreamshard" ×100.for being top ranked at traphase. i am just astonished this is unbelievable.
>>564053506it's how it used to work before they moved the dream sparks/shards to the d-jewel shop
>>564053438we arent given nearly enough as is and now we are supposed to sweat at traphase for more? this is absolutely insane I hope this game fucking dies
>>564053506>>564053134>>564053640just dont do it then? traphase enjoyers finally get rewards and people who don't want to play it don't lose anything they weren't getting right now and people still find a way to cryyou fomo fiends need to touch grass
>>564053741bro. the soulforge shard accumulation has been criminally slow. they are "fixing" the problem by adding them to sweating at traphase. this is absolutely outrageous. I dont think you get how bad this is for the game. Soulforge shards are only useful in non-traphase game modes. Why the fuck is so much soulforge shard income gated by traphase ranks? why would you ever want this?
>>564054032i like having an incentive to play traphase cause i enjoy it, if i didn't then i would just skip it
Mori is shut now but if light wants people to play traphase why not introduce a pve type of thing where people face premade bot comps?
>>564054312yeah, just let people play against bots without any ranking change
>>564054312Their previous game was PvP only and the framework of Traphase, so he really wants people to play more PvP. Bot teams would go against that idea.
>>564054312that's already a thing tho, it's just that you can only make those so strong and it ends up just being you stomping them which is boringthe target audience of traphase is PvPers, people who enjoy competition. it's fine if you're not part of that but that audience needs some sort of incentive to play the game and they're fixing that by adding stuff purely on top of everything else, i really don't see the issue
>>564054193These arent small rewards. This is two weeks worth of d-jewel soulforge profression for each time traphase is in the rotation, and the rewards are going to be top-weighted like the current p-dive/traphase rewards. why the fuck is traphase being made the ONLY way to get these rewards two weeks out of four when its a trash mode that already failed and died and killed their first game and almost everyone hates? do they seriously think compelling players to sweat at traphase is the winning line for morimens' future?
>>564054459It's simply not fun. There is a reason why their first game died.
>>564054605it's not only traphase
I'll wintrade
>>564054623I agree and am just telling you why it'll never happen. I just ignore Traphase exists, just like how I ignored that PvP event and will continue to ignore it after they readd the old weekly quest rewards.
>>564054591its not on top of everything else, the dmand for soulforge shards is unlimited, its the equivalent kf adding pull currencywe had the solution which was letting you get weekly rewards from EITHER p-dive or traphase but not both so you were never forced to trap and we're just deleting that and giga buffing the rewards you get to insanely valuable limited leveling currency. this is so incredibly bad the player base is just too dumb to understand how bad this is yet.
>>564054605am I missing something? aren't those RANKING rewards? meaning that it's specifically not meant to be for everyone and only top players?
>>564054673it isone week its only via traphase all pickanother week its only via hsranother week its only via pdiveanother week its only via traphase draftyou MUST play traphase for these soulforge shards
>>564054763everyone gets rewards, lower ranked people just get fewer shards and scripts and what not
>>564054868I think pdive is more difficult to rank high than traphase. Especially now that it will have actual rewards. In pdive whales got an advantage over regular players. In traphase it's all about skill.
>>564054763look at traphase rankings to see how the scrip rewards are currently given outdoes anyone here play the game or do we just randomly defend horrible game decisions, like soulforge mats for high ranks at traphase
>>564054875>>564055034i've gotten top rewards before but i thought you were pushing others out while climing of them since it says it's by top% of players, yknow like every other ranked game
>>564055026Climbing ranked is a huge time sink that's not compatible with how much time gacha players can afford every week.You'll just roll over other players while you're below 900, but after that you'll often encounter actual players and every match will take way too long.
>>564055026You can just borrow a whale char anyway so skill it's still massively important, on my 1st month playing all I had were lvl60 units but I borrowed a lvl90 ghelot and got 8.3k
People (both EN and CN) complained about tying Soulforge materials to the P-drive leaderboard. A year later, they finally gave in and moved them to the shop, and everyone was happy. Not even a year has passed, and they are putting them back on the leaderboard again.BIAV deserves all the chink rage.
>>564055026????? I dont give a shit nobody wants soulforge rewards for ranked modes especially that many, literally gnosis fragments would be less awful to put there than the currency that they keep us insanely poor on for no reason except to torture us by adding fucking ranked reward traphase soulforge shards
>>564055438I just don't really care anymore.
>>564055467>for no reasonbecause they want people to buy them obviously? during CNY they had a package that gave out literal hundreds, i got 2 of those and all my carries are SF10there are literally free for people who want to get them, i truly don't see what's the problemthe funny thing is that if they DIDN'T change anything and didn't give these out at all anywhere people wouldn't complain at all
>>564055438its even WORSE that its traphase because traphase ranks are insanely time consuming, and its not even fucking morimensi'm glad the chinks are actually not braindead and understand how horrible these changes are they are absolutely outrageous and 100% will kill this game, mori will flat out not survive with mandatory biweekly traphase participation for soulforge shards it is just a complete joke
>>564055672yes, because we would all be on a level playing field, the rate at which we're given leveling materials is arbitrary but the important part is not missing out on them so content continues to be tailored to your experience as wellthey are upping the rate at which theyre given out now but its behind sweating at traphase. insane. these rewards are MORE important than stamina for any mature account. and they are behind traphase ranks.
>>564055875>because we would all be on a level playing fielddid you miss the part that says this is a GACHA GAME where you can PAY and get HUNDREDS instantly?what is this cognitive dissonance i can't
I might be the only one who doesn't really care about soulforge mats. Call me when they add gacha currency to a leaderboard rank.
>>564056314You will when you decide to do A4 or A5 D-tide or get stuck trying to finish Arc 2.
How did light manage to blow up at least 3 different times in the span of 5 days? I haven't seen such a trainwreck before.
>>564056604Well it was all at once tbf, he did say in his letter than he wanted to get all these "design fixes" in the game at once before their next marketing push because it would hurt more later
>>564056604It's somewhat common in this game. Skin fiascos, the first anni raid stages dying before western players even got home from work, the referral code drama and so on.
>>564056458already finished arc 2 normalhave a couple of teams capable of A4 and maybe A5 but I usually do 350 on the final day before d-zone resets
>>564056778this is so much worse than all of those
Just a point of information: the weekly D-Jewel amounts from weekly trials is going to be exactly the same as before (10,000, more than enough to buy out the 50 dreamsparks and 100 sharts each week). So we'll be getting those shop mats, plus however many we get from the seasonal stuff, which looks like is up the same numbers as pre-patch shop mats if you rank high (50 dreamspark, 100 dreamsharts). They kind of buried the new weekly trial stuff in the patch notes. I don't know how hard the falloff will be below top ranks, though. Hopefully it's not steep.
Big scoop!Gacha devs add free stuff!Players furious!
light is a genius, he should bring back daily pdive leaderboards too. everyone loved that
>>564057208i dont get it. how stupid are you? when rewards are added one place, they are coming out of somewhere else in the future. when silver or soulforge mats are added to weekly traphase participation, it is silver/soulforge nats that will not be added elsewhere, which is why its important not to tie important recurring rewards to abject cancer. this is incredibly basic stuff.like i get it you're uncomfortable and constantly deflect any issues with the game but maybe you should just take the weekend off they really did fuck up this time.
>>564057623At least old P-Dive was faster and I could just skip the trash fights and just bonk the boss unless the exploration map didn't have any shortcuts.This one I have to play at a lower difficulty to just turn 1 the trash fights and kill the boss in 2 or 3 turns.
>there are dweebs here who havent traphase onceWhat is wrong with you?
>>564057802Where else were we getting soulforge mats outside of the shop and occassionally as event rewards?
>>564058890>What is wrong with you?My ping is 900 ms. There is a good reason why I don't.
>>564059257they literally say in the post that theyre increasing the rate of d-jewel rewards because its the second half of arc 2. and theyre doing it via faggot traphase rewards because theyre retards. they could and should give out more soulforge shards without ranked grind in not-morimens.
>>564059706*rate of soulforge rewards, not d-jewel
>>564059706Wait, does that mean the game will be around for 2 more years?
>>564060109well at least they confirmed arc3 for around this time next year
>>564060109i was optimistic a week ago but i'm a doomer now. this game is already niche as the challenging slay the spire horror gacha and now there's traphase-gated progression and win 5 traphase games a week for silver. who the fuck is this game even for?
>>564057802Arachne's launch side event and the Agrippa/Uvhash side event rerun will give 25 dreamspark and 50 dreamshards each. This is the same amount given in past rerun events. From what you said, the devs would have reduced the free mats from these side events because of the new mats they're giving out from the ranked stuff. I'm not demanding you enjoy traphase, but it's seriously not even a bad mode, and certainly not bad enough to cry over. If you just can't stand it, you can knock out the new seasonal missions in 10 minutes by win trading with a /mori/bro. I would rather they just doubled the mats in the shop or something simple like that, but I just don't mind this new system enough to whine about it. I add that the most important unknown right now is how the mats in the ranked rewards will be distributed. If I remember right, the old pdive rankings didn't have a huge difference between high and low ranks. Please correct me if I'm wrong, though. I'll just wait for the patch to drop before jumping down Light's throat about it.
>>564060468I don't doom. I just stop caring.
>>564061579Those are both passive attitudes.During times like these, what we can do is supporting the angry chinks so Light give up on his bad decisions. You don't need to write angry posts or reviewbomb the game on Steam, just increasing the number of clown emoji and thumbs down reactions under his posts in Chinese is enough.
>>564061508i DO mind. traphase is SHIT for CUNTS. I already give them money for basically nothing and now theyre mandating traphase shit for silver quests and dreamsparks and five standard pulls a week. how the fuck was the previous arrangement unacceptable to them I am at a complete loss.
>We will also be fully overhauling the bonus rewards that came with the Silver Prime — they will no longer grant Silver, but will grant Silver Prime directly. And for every historical Silver Prime order you have made, we will offer the option to convert the Silver you received into Silver Prime.this part is pretty funny because it is an outrageous amount of primes for spenders being refunded. its actually insane to me that theyre doing this. but at the same time any big swipers knew the $30 packs were the best deal and now $30 buyers are getting owned because $30 packs only gave 260 low-value bonus silver while $100 packs had a worse rate of primes but gave 1600 bonus silver. so $30 pack buyers are kind of getting shit on, while also getting tons of free primes.
>>564063051oh wow. recently bought some 100 bucks packs. did they say when that change will go live?
>>564063051Huh, I didn't see that part. I recently bought a $50 silver prime pack since I got paid for a bunch of overtime, so that'll be pretty swell. Does this also mean that we'll be getting double the prime from each pack from now on?
>recently bought some 100 bucks packs>some 100 bucks packs
>>564063420looks like 2.5.1 (patch after arachne)>### V2.5.1 preview>We will be strengthening the base kits of many characters so they can better adapt to the new environment. As we’ve said before, Absolute Axiom is not meant to be a baseline assumption for character strength. Strengthening the base kits directly is how we uphold that.>We will also be adding two PC-exclusive paid options. If you’re willing to support us by playing and paying on PC, there are several angles in which that helps the game more directly. The recent dual-platform reward events we’ve been running are, on one hand, to encourage you to try experiencing the game on different platforms — and on the other hand, tied to this reason.>We will also be fully overhauling the bonus rewards that came with the Silver Prime — they will no longer grant Silver, but will grant Silver Prime directly. And for every historical Silver Prime order you have made, we will offer the option to convert the Silver you received into Silver Prime.>The specific list of base kit improvements for V2.5.1, along with the Absolute Axiom adjustment plan, will be communicated through a devlog before they go live. This will also be the first time I’m making good on the “advance communication” commitment I discuss later in this letter — please hold me to it using that devlog as the test.
>>564054875>>564055034It's literally just five wins. It isn't based on rank.
>>564064238wrong, the five standard pulls and silver are for five wins, the soulforges will be scaled like gift cards are scaled
>>564063420same, i got 1 or 2 a month, lets see how much it returns
>>564064236buying prime and getting normal silver as the bonus did feel kind of wrong. but then again, the game was already quite generous so i didnt care. but getting the silver amount paid back 1:1 into prime? thaaats juicy.
>>564064238Unfortunately, no. The weekly missions require the x number of wins/runs on the mode of the week. The extra mats are distributed based on the leaderboards of the weekly mode. We don't know how they'll distribute them between high and low ranks yet.
>>564064595>lets see how much it returnshmm, yeah. the first purchase for 6k primes gave the first purchase bonus of normal silver of the same prime amount bought, i believe, and further purchases give 1k silver. will they convert the received silver into prime 1 to 1 or apply their new system to the conversions? guess we will see.
>>564065485I'm a doomer today but I think it will be 1:1. If you've bought five $100 packs you should be offered to convert 12,800 silvers into primes (6400 for the first one, 1600 for the other four).
>>564065710>>564065485sounds nice, now if it progs the prime silver battlepass thing we eating good
>>5640642385 wins with 50% win rate is 10 matches. I'm at a decently high rating so it's not uncommon for me to have losing streaks so 5 wins can easily take me 15+ matches if I get very unlucky with tough opponents. This is unacceptable imo, a weekly chore that can take you variable amounts of time is not something that should be tolerated.
I'm still not gonna play traphase
>un-fucking-ironic loud nigger run fast meme in my generalMy fucking God.
>>564064236>And for every historical Silver Prime order you have made, we will offer the option to convert the Silver you received into Silver Prime.Nice no need to buy this month or the next
>>564066160The fix is dead simple too. Change seasons to two weeks, week 1 is p-dive and all pick week 2 is hsr and draft. Yes they should add more modes like an astral reign p-dive and hsr with rotating shill buffs. and I dont think soulforge shards should be leaderboard rewards at all. but the biggest issue is traphase being in the mandatory content pipeline and it literally does not have to be there at all.
>>564064236>And for every historical Silver Prime order you have made, we will offer the option to convert the Silver you received into Silver Prime.I might be reading this wrong, are you going to convert Silver you have into the correct amount of Silver Prime, or are you just going to be given the Silver Prime you would have gotten?
Should I try out 1999? Is it fun?
>>564066920i was like 2 so i dont remember sorry
>>564066806Sounds way too generous to be true but guess we'll find out
>>564066920if you want fgo with lesbians
>do 10 pulls get gdoll to OE6>do 80 on Kath and get her to e3i got fomo. kath does look cool. any interesting teams? i got karen on OE9 as well as horla, with the possibility to get her to e2, and both look pretty good for kath, isnt it?
>>564067157if you have clem and horla, kath works really well with them
>>564066920>Should I try out 1999?There's a 2.5 year anniversary event going on right now with a banner that gives you 10 free pulls per day to roll on it, up to 100 pulls and there's still time to get all those free pulls. It's a good time to start if you're interested.>Is it fun?The gameplay isn't very fun, but the artstyle, voice acting and the story are pretty high quality. It has significantly more grind than Morimens and it's a bit overwhelming with the amount of manus, systems and chores you have to do. At least dupes aren't as absurd as they are in this game.
>>564066806turn silver into silver prime. so as of 2.5.0 if you buy the $100 bonus back you'll get a bonus of 1600 primes instead of a bonus of 1600 silvers. to make previous buyers not upset they're offering you to go back in time and get that reward instead of the silvers you got, so you'll have to exchange silvers for primes. I think this is convoluted but I guess they dont want fomo/people freaking out that they didnt buy before the change went live.
>>564064704>getting the silver amount paid back 1:1 into primeI don't think that's necessarily how it's going to work but we'll have to wait and see
>>564067283I just want to find a decent gacha with decent gameplay and good endgame.
>>564066920i play both and the anni is running right now, so a good time to start. be reminded that it is pretty yuri at times and the mc is a girl that gets kissed by another girl and makes advances on other girls so it might not be everyones cup of tea, especially for male mc enjoyers and self-inserters. i like the teambuilding and gameplay, and the story can be good at times, especially the beginning.>>564067225clem keeps evading my stash..
>>564067590>decent gacha with decent gameplay and good endgameReverse is more like VN with gameplay thrown in. I don't think gachas with decent gameplay are real to begin with. By their nature. Morimens just tend to not treat player like a retard most of the time. This is why it's so hard for me :( I think another one would be Variants Daphne, because it's dungeon crawler with gacha stapled on top of it. Can't speak for the endgame in that one.
what should i prioritize from event shops as a newfag?
>>564068237you can just buy everything
>>564068237everything but especially the SR wheel
>>564068237Purple EXP bottles and ascension mats. Get those lvl 60 awakeners asap.>>564067590Try Arknights then. Not shitfield, but the original one.7th year and plenty of low rarity unity and year 1 units are still used in the endgame. Tower defense gameplay but with your characters instead of turrets, many different archetypes and plenty of creative ways to solve the stages. Pull income is very low, but there are hundreds of good welfare and low rarity units and you can borrow from your friends in any content. Clearing stages for the first time (as well as certain events) gives you paid currency you can use to buy paid level up packages, skins or convert them into pull currency. It is also celebrating it's half-anni, but it's not as generous as Morimens, but still good f2p/low spender.
>>564068142>Variants Daphnewith the way daphne is turning out and how scummy the developers are behind it, i dont know if its still a good idea to get into it. it is visually the best DRPG created so far.
>>564067157Kathigu-nya
>>564068454>visually the best DRPG created so farExcuse me, but that honor goes to Labyrinth of Galleria (unless you mean 3D)
>>564068237Luminous Cores > SR wheel > Pure Cores > everything elseif you just started and can't get everything then at least try getting the limited pullsalso you can borrow other people's characters to carry you through the higher difficulty stages, if you post your UID anons here will add you and you'll have access to their supports
>>564068454>daphne is turning out and how scummy the developers are behind itI haven't followed it for a while. So it's from my memory. IIrc the recent drama they had was related to new anti-cheat being somehow worse than priveous one and some tech trouble with Steam version of the game.
>>564068759just objectively speaking. it is indeed 3D, high-quality models, battle-system presentation with you seeing fights unfold from the 1st person perspective and your members doing stuff next to you; it is a novel experience visually. on the other hand, it has cut-throat monetization, blatant AI use for new character releases, the tapjoy controversy and drecom, the devs, putting revenue in anything but the game.
>>564069158>battle-system presentation with you seeing fights unfold from the 1st person perspective and your members doing stuff next to youshining the holy ark did this on the sega saturn
ended up making this. who could be a good replacement for the furry?
>>564040775It's 5 wins per MONTH. read nigga read
>>564070106Would Arachne be good for Kathigu-ra? Cuz Kathigu-ra's banner is ending soon.
>>564070918idiota
how many pulls would it take to get 3 more copies of kathy
>>564071807If you're lucky, 5-10If you're unlucky, 270 guarantees 3 of her
>>564070959maybe... the tinct/horla/clem setup is pretty solid, you couldnt drop clem because you need healing with arachne and horla is the weakvuln. arachne would probably do more than tinct but tinct is really good and a standard.
>>564071807it took me 80-100 pulls (i skipped at some point and paid with silver so unsure how many pulls it really was) to get kath and then another 3 dupes for e3. try your luck!
>>564070918the mode is up for 1 week though
>>564071984>>564072696i did a single 5 pull for the morning gamba dopamine and got a dupe of her in it, so i had to go all the waysimilarly took me around 90-100 pulls and actually got some decent standard dupes i wanted out of the spooks
>>564071807~40 pulls on average for a limited character
>>564073172Grats, bro! Did you get the number you needed?
>>564066920no go play czn a game for real man
>>564077940thanks for bumping the thread bwo <3
>>564075782yeah, wondering if i should get her wheel too, but probably going to save for saya and h-anni
wtf happened between November and January?
>>564078459holidays over?
>>564078459second anniversary, 200 free rolls if you finished story (LOTS of hours needed)
>>564077940mori releases worst update evercazena releases best update everthey are colluding it cant be an accident
jenkinbros...
>>564080884>jenkin himself
>they didn't put timezones in any of the times in the patch notesfuck you
>>564081326Pretty sure they always operate off of Hong Kong time. It's 2AM there now, so maintenance should start in about 6 hours.
>>564080884I KNEW IT
what do these brown numbers mean?
>>564085180stat lvl, goes up to 8 so you gotta gamba
>>564085268wait you can roll the same stat multiple times??
how long until maint?
>>564085685yea, you're supposed to reroll all 3 until you hit the one you want at 7-8 (depending how much you wanna invest) and then you transfer and lock that one, reroll the other 2 until you hit, then repeat for the last oneneeds quite a bit of mats on avg and definitely don't expect to 8/8/8
>>564085912this is good advice but want to mention that doing it this way is deep endgame, dont try to get any max lines until everyone you own is level 60 with level 3 command cards, it will destroy scrip like nothing else. before then if you do any rerolling just eyeball every roll and settle for mediocrity.
>>564085816About 5 hours, I think
which 4 characters should I pick for my selector banner?
>>564087820thais, hameln, horla, and a fourth one of your choice
>>564087874how many dupes of each should i go for before stopping?
I'm going to try to sleep until I can install the update. Goodnight, bros.
>>564087972thais e2horla e1hameln e2
Who should I pick with this thing?
>>564088149thats a big decision. vortice, xu, castor are great picks for low enlightens, gmurphy is meta but you'd want to put a lot of copy mats into her ans you dont own miriam. do some research because those are very rare and you wont get to do this again for a very long time if ever.
>>564088041sleep well, morifren~
>>564088149like the other anon said, keep it until you have a better understanding of the game
>>564088149i'd fuck pollux but that shouldn't influence your decision
>>564088149i'd also fuck pollux but yeah hold onto your selector for now until you're more experienced
>>564079897Does czn have hard endgame?
>>564090257no their endgame is horrible. but the update on the 29th will be good at least.
>>564090874MEH.
>>564085685yes you're supposed to get a perfect roll for your first stat because locking stats is extremely expensive in comparison
>>564090257better than mori endgame
>>564094410your bitch mother get raped by hot dogs night and night giving born your brother and sister dog face your father dog
>>564094718Hot dogs?
We're getting a new story chapter today right?
>>564095831yes but not all of it. it will release in four parts and hm wont be available until they're all out.
Alva... strong
how do you unlock gramona?
>>564098139you do her psyche deepdive first and afterwards you can unlock her by paying a certain amount of pure silver cores (I think either 50 or 60)
>>564098264That cost feels so much steeper now that AAs are a thing
>>564098718which standard AAs are even good? the only standards I rouse are nymphea and liz and I dont rly play Liz for real.
doing chapter 4 hard with pic rel right now and i have to say that kath is very fun and very strong. i have no idea how her flames work yet but things dont survive past the second turn anyway..
>>564099209Most of them are not great compared to limited AAs, but it's one more thing to consider when weighing GRamona's cost.
>>564099209Caecus's is pretty good
>>564100327if you have horla's wheel (The Last Verse) put it on Kath to make her even stronger. big damage and big shields
>>564101634i will try it out now. i luckily had horlas wheel, too. thanks, anon!
>>564100327yeah bringing her to early story stuff she will just clear mob waves with a card. you might have to actually learn her mechanics for like the end chapter boss but she is just going to annihilate. I actually prefer titan blade if last verse is <E3 but you can use whichever you prefer.
are any of these good for kath besides blade? i feel like my dps wheel collection is lacking.
>>564103073there honestly arent a ton of damage wheels in the game. the best for her imo are last verse, titan blade, and wheel unseen (tawil wheel). Pollux wheel is probably decent but just a worse titan blade.
fuck morishit
>>564104565i would happily have sex with winkle
i will watch flares kathy guide now!
>>564105717his kathi guide will make no sense. His is +12 with a +12 amber tinted death which makes her a completely different character operating at much faster speeds because she has 300+ str when she loads into a fight.
>>564106596still watching. i like flares. i think hes cute.
i think flares is retarded and i'll figure out my own kathy build
>>564109683you retarded and flares cooler than you
>>564111737no u
I am glad cznjeets killed the general. The game fucking blows once the illusion is overHopefully it will eos soon
I still enjoy the game and I can't wait for the new episode, and new awakener.
>>564109683whats retarded is flares telling his idiot fans to +12 will unyielding they all do it have a clunkier character that isnt any stronger and then go back for more awful advice
>>564113114the game is kino but the devs' passion is traphasethey make dozens of traphase balance changes every patch but refuse to touch arc1 or arc2 relics despite constantly claiming that they want to make arc2 relics more interestingthey just care more about their stupid original dead game
>>564100327>i have no idea how her flames workretain burning cardsburning cards will burn hotterplay cards burning the hottestgain lots of flamesboom kaboom 14 arith donald duck teraflare
10GB download....
>>564121246>donald duck teraflareyou mean zettaflare
>>564087972>>564088108Just be aware that Horla E1 is a double edged sword.Retaining her cards will bloat your hand, but at the same time it means keeping them out of your draw pile. Better not to do it until you have a +hand limit WoD you can use in her team.
Lads why is my game in moon runes now?
>>564121643my Kath doesn't have OE, so she can't cast zettaflare yet
>>564121749Horla's E2 is the one that gives you the retain on her cardsE1 gives you vuln on strike and weakness on defense
It's actively in English too.
>>564121960Oh, my bad then.
>>564121643For me it's mega magic.
>>564121903>>564122101Light wants you to play Traphase and learn Chinese. Do it!
Not sure if it's been mentioned here yet, but doresain's overflow will be rolled into his base kit(along with some unspecified other AA effects).
>>564122825Only half of the overflow, which is ok, full overflow is a little ridiculous in how much it favors him vs mob bosses.
>>564121246how do you get that much arith?
>>564124527relics and certain teamcomps
excited to try out Arachne in traphase
What's a traphase?
It's up
>>564126705You lied and now I'm sad.
>>564106596how does she has 300+ str? The Fianma still needs time to scale up regardless
>>564128943Sorry
actually up this time
CZN is up
CZN cant stop winning
>>564130262
Maintenance over
goude lucke on ye pulles anons
.....
where is the silver prime conversion thing that they promised
How much Silver will I need to save up in order to +12 someone on their release?
Spider legs confirmed!!
hmmm
Are the Guiding Threads working as intended? They say 'Lose X% Max HP' which I assumed meant your max HP was reduced but you're just losing HP based on your max.
Did the library always have gems? Because if it did I somehow missed that. Also, I don't get the new menu and where did the dailies go?
>>564135439The library(formerly archives) has had gems since... last anni or so I think? Dailies are now under handbook.
>>564135215It is working as intended
>>564135840Thanks.
Five TinctFive JenkinTwo LizOne CasiahOne HorlaOne WandaIs Winkle even on the purple standard banner??? How does this happen???
Cute!!!
you WILL play traphase
>>564137057Why would I?
Are her pursuits working? I did her trial and I don't know how to proc them.
I don't understand buffs to characters in this game, do you really need to get 12 copies of a character to unlock them? That sounds crazy.
New enemies? Not just floating geometric shapes and fish people.
>>564137508I was confused about that too. I think you either have to be in an ultra turn, or you have to use the new annihilation mechanic during the turn you exalt with her, in which case you ounly get to use one pursuit.
>>564137823Oh ok i get it now.
>>564129767amber tinted death gives you 20% of your atk as temp str for the first five cards you play each turn. lvl90 Kath with soulforge 10 will have almost 300atk and amber tinted death also increases str generation by 12%.
>>564136325i got three winkles a tinct and a liz todayi got them all
>rolled a NympheaeOnly three more and I can go back to wheel jail.
Huh, the weekly 250 silver and 5 pure cores for playing the different game modes are rewarded per game mode. So if you do all 4 of them each week, that's 1000 silver and 20 pure cores. I thought that it was only 1 set of rewards each week for doing the current active ranked game mode, so that's actually pretty nice.
i should've been investing in Lizcoin instead of rolling for wheel bricks...
>>564137563You only need 3 dupes to unlock the whole kit.Each dupe after that increases level cap, from Level 70 to 90 at +12 dupes.Axiom buffs at +12 are supposed to be minor buffs for people invested in their waifus/husbands which is why people got mad when some were crutch balance fixes tierAs for the dupe heavy investment, you got plenty of dupe sources besides gacha like a monthly dupe item for any units you already have and resetters to convert dupes of other units you dont use into charactera you love.
Oh, so NOW you decide to spook me. Dumb rat.Got a shard, though.
>>564137563Devs said they'll be readjusting those +12 bonuses in the next patch, plus rolling some of them into characters' base kits alongside other base kit buffs. We don't know the extent of the upcoming buffs, though. I'm hoping for some stat buffs to the shittier standards.
>>564133616See and retardw try to claim this is something "you have to grind" when it's rank based lmaoThey prob cant even top 10% anyway
>>564140782>whack your *beep* with my lanternuooohh!! Jenkin cbt!! ToT
trying to understand essay length chink translation of arachnes kit makes me feel how keeper must have felt trying to comprehend cosmic multidimensional horror at end of arc 1
>>564142754So, aroused then
>Do Arachne trial>Activate Exalt with 5 stacks>Use Nymph's card>Pursuit doesn't triggerAm I missing something or am I just retarded?
>>564142754Doesn't help that it's full of mistranslations like this. And Dimension Shuttle being called Singularity Shuttle elsewhere in the text, which when combined with the 5 million other Singularity Ultra Conduit type chinkslop jargon makes it difficult to tell if it's misworded or a different mechanic.>>564142928See >>564137823And triggering it with annihilation seems finnicky, there is a specific order to the way you have to exalt and then anni, or anni and then exalt, i can't remember which way it is, but if you do it the wrong way it won't trigger.
spider... good? worth colorful squares...? how many hmmm? dupes yes? powerful?
>>564143026Not that anon, but I also fucked up my first attempt at using her pursuits. The pursuit effect on the exalt is only granted if you exalt during Ultra Turn or AFTER using annihilation. It's sort of like a Leap effect that can only be used during the extra turn. The exalt description will actually gray out the pursuit portion of the text if you haven't met the conditions.
>>564139701are those weekly or monthly? weekly seems like too much game to play
i'm liking Arachne + Jenkin at E3 she feels like a better E3 Castor
Did something happen to the game, everything feels so small now the cards, the enemies, what is going on or am I too tired...
>>564143318spider wife friend with bug wife
>>564144030They added more resolutions support so it probably changed it for you
>>563939474>praising chaos zero nightmare (czn) for insane half anniversaryHi, I play morimens off and on, like, log in once every 2 or so months, play for a few days, and leave kind of off and on.What the fuck happend? why is everyone so mad? and who ever the fuck briii is the fact that he gave Chaos boringcuck zero ANY praise makes me think he's a retard
/ourguy/ has spoken
>>564144592Basically, the devs tried to push too many changes too quickly without dev blogs or discussion with the players. They've walked back the most egregious stuff (replacing permanent limited pulls with temporary limited pulls to thwart account sellers), but people are still mad. It all happened really fast, and the devs have apologized like 3 times.
>chapter 9 is the same exact boss fight a dozen times in a row
>>564144935Huh, alright well thanks. If anything wouldn't a lot of changes be a GOOD thing? I'm over here bored as fuck because my games almost never update
>>564145015Some of the changes are nice on paper, the problem some people have is that there's a chance that in the future they could mean worse terms for f2p players
>>564145015They are monetization and progression changes, not new content or balance changes or anything like that.
>>564145006>same exactWrong.
What the fuck I finished my weeklies in like 10 minutes
>>564145280but the cat bad REEEE
>>564145280Including this one?>>564133616
>>564145928You can get rank 1 in 2 minutes if nobody else ever plays
>>564146012You'll still need to do Pdrive 3 times for weekly quest outside of ranking.
>>564146117Oh nyo I'll have to play the game to get free shit?
>>564146117just speedrun low difficulty with pollux
>>564145928Not that one, no. But Iot my 10k d-jewels, so I'm pretty happy about how quickly that can be knocked out every Monday.>>564146117Thankfully it's at any difficulty, so that's not bad at all for 5 cores and some silver.
>>564134765on average 200*40*(16-n) silver where n is the number of prototype horizons you have and are we willing the spend on the character
>>564147750Isn't it 30 pulls for pity? So 96000 - (6000 * n)
>>564141669she says butt in japanese
>>564147750I'll do this maths later when my brain is working again, thank you very much anon
I don't like the new layout bros...Also why did they change the currency? 5 limited pulls that turn into standard pulls so you can't stockpile seems kinda anti player friendly...
>>56414788730 is the pity for an SSR, not for a limited SSR which you have a 33% chance of getting at pityalso I was talking about averages not about a worst case scenario
>>564144716another C-tier incident ???
>>564148476Its antibots, and if it means they give out extra then is all good for me
>>564134765On average, it’s 42 pulls per rate up SSR. You need 16 total, so 672 pulls. Honestly, very doable even for F2P
>>564148476Bro, before they gave you 5 standard pull. Now they give you 5 time-limited limited pull. It’s an upgrade in every way. BIAV messed up a lot recently but the fanbase of this game is ultra toxic for no reason
Hello, beautiful. Time for some testing.
>>564149968Smoochette and Kath won...
>>564149815it was 42 before they buffed the rates
>>564149909I think its a classic case of giving a hand and taking an armIn other games people are used to being laid down and fucked in the ass raw with zero communication involved, but here people are heard so they constantly chimp out about everything because they know it works
>>564150036It's actially only Arachne's Strike and Defense that activate it. So far it looks like they don't consume stacks of Weaver when they're used.
One step closer to +12 rat!
So is arachne worth pulling as my first limited?
Where is the "infinite threads" arachne's e3 doubles?
>>564151082It's her pursuit
>>564149968So I just fucked around in Train Mode for a bit, and Arachne doesn't even need Weaver stacks for her image relic to activate her pursuit through Strike/Defense. She's absolutely easier to use like this if you want to stack tons of Doom. Unfortunately it's astral reign game modes only.
>>564150827No flares vid so its impossible to know
>>564150827getting a single copy of a character isn't as big of a decision as in other gameshaving a copy of everyone is nice, then you can decide who you'll invest further in
mori...
>>564150827c or d tier as first limited
>Arachne trial >she doesn't launch pursuit Also is this fucking execute mechanic? For a poison team?
>>564154258Pursuit happens under the following circumstances>ultra turn or turn you annihilate>after exalt>other awaker's cards are playedAll three conditions need to be met in order.
>poison spam instakillOh yeah. It's coming together nicely
>>564154535>All three conditions need to be met in order Ahhh. Holy shit. I was wondering why trigger order is so comlex for no reason, but she stacks her verdict on top of that. I see. Thanks. Well I guess, I can just run her as warden and spam shield/her verdict card.
B tier Ultrashhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD5zdw7Ws-Y
>>564153940Let it fucking die already
>>564155407no u
>>56414996820k doom stacks on strike and def looked pretty absurd at first, but it becomes negligible later on. The hell does her pursuit scale off of, anyway? Dmg Amp?From what I've tested, she works pretty well with Casiah and Kathi, since her Divine ultra pretty much lets their temp effects rack up pretty high. Kathi's wheel effects are tracked through the ultra turn, giving her a bit more leeway in her builds.Arachne also has some chunky ass shields. From what I can see, she's good for newbies since she shreds through the early game pretty easily and has good survivability, but can easily transition to a full support once the player has more damage dealers.Kind of like Xu, with more flexibility. Maybe she's on the same tier as Castor?
Rate flares' arachne fan song
>>564155869post it
>>564156882sanest Morimens player
>>564156151https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_glQVfg88A4
>>564155869AI slop
good /mori/ning~>update game>do dailies, like frens profiles>get rewards>check thread>"oh no..">look at flares malding and dooming>cuteretard.png>do 30 pulls on arachne, get some standardwell..im not going to e3 or more on her and i didnt get her early, so its a skip for me unless some insane revelations drop.
>>564157751She is still pretty worth snagging an e0 copy of in my opinion.
>>564157313honestly surprised at the quality of the video, AI is getting kind of crazy ngl
>>564157838i will wait for now, because i also feel like arachne will be my lucklet banner.
>>564155602I wouldn't put her in the same tier as Castor just yet, but I had a blast with this team in train mode. I removed all wheels except main ones aince I know fewer people have the same +12 wheels as me, though I also haven't gotten Arachne's own wheel yet. The game auto-selected Naut's wheel for her, and it's not a bad idea. Like you said, she makes fat shields, so letting you preserve some of them each turn is really helpful.It's fun as fuck to watch Arachne pop hallway mobs like zits after a couple Looms. Her getting doom on strike/def definitely helps her spread it around, but yeah, against any final bosses she falls short. Doom stacks reset after each health bar is popped, so it isn't a good mechanic to bring for bossing. When I tested this team in train mode I ended with arc 2 ch 4 final boss, so you can imagine the kind of slog that fight ended up being. While I haven't tried her with Kath yet, Jenkin is a great teammate for Arachne to support. In normal turns, Arachne can pull a Rat Swarm from the Ultra bar, with all those nice Beacon buffs, and make it activate twice. It felt like it tripled the damage. Having Jenkin's exalt ready also guarantees Arachne can fire off all of her pursuits on the turns she can do so. My ratto also has her AA now, so she had around 300% crit damage on top of it all.
>>564158456>I had a blastBlast havers are we pulling? I'm having a blast haha
Shes cute hencefore I shall pull
>>564158551I always pull for new characters. What else would I use my edify mats for?
flares thinks her pursuits only work in ultra turn...
>>564159012madness omenthough the person you replied to was shitposting
>>564158456Quick vid of Jenkin damage eith Arachne pursuit proced with Defense.https://files.catbox.moe/2uw5yc.mp4
>>564159192Because it's true. See my vid for reference >>564159307
>>564159761Technically they work on annihilate turns too.
>>564159761It's not. It works the turn you annihilate too.
>>564159307Arachne enlighten?
>>564155325"dogshit recommendations do more harm than good"oh the irony
>>564159942Mine's at E2. See here. >>564158456
>>564158551i will wait for now. theres word going around that she might be bugged a bit.
>>564159980oh I didn't realize you were the same anon260k verdict by turn 3 is pretty impressive, though I'm not sure how much of that is affected by the train buffs
>instant kill doomstacks>pursuit>annihilation that isnt just free 1 arithmetica>buffs teammates passivelyThe only good bug pussy!
>>564160196Train mode buffs are always ridiculous. I think her doom stacks are doubled or tripled compared to regular Astral Reign stats. That clip was also after her exalt, which gives that huge chunk of damage amp for the turn. My guess is that doom/verdict is affected by amp in the same way fixed poison and fixed counter are.>>564160417Anon, spiders aren't even bugs in the first place!
as a relative newfag, how should I be assigning resources to upgrade my team's skills?
>>564160503get everyone's cards to lvl 3 first, you can leave exalts at 1 for now unless it's a character with really important exaltafter everyone is at 3 check which skills would benefit most from being upgraded further and get them to 5
>>564160503Skills have two or three stopping points. The first stopping point would be skill level 3, since the levels afterward need specific mats that are only unlocked/earned from story chapters. Then level 4, since levels 5 and 6 both require the big red rocks. For your best damager, though, just jack their levels as high as you can first.
>>564160804>stopping pointsSorry, I was unclear. I don't mean actually stopping forever, but those are like the general points where you'll get bottlenecked by skill mats.
AAAAAHHH STOP CLOGGING ME HANDHELP ME WINKLE I'M GOING INSANE
>>564161178Just use Casiah!
>>564161259The only Awakener with jiggly tits
>>564161349Sanga's Sangas? EASILY FORGOTTEN
>>564160804only level 6 requires the big red rock
>>564144185>Arachne >Clem I imagine you'd also put Horla in the team to get her exalt faster, but who's the fourth member?
well i hope she is good
>>564159192why do people listen to him again ?the guy spends a billion hours testing the char, goes on schizo rants all the time, and he can't even get her base kit right
>>564161757S-tier when well invested according to King Flares
>>564161259It was sorta meme Purple24 comp. But I can see how commiting to LOOMing will be a problem aganist bosses that really like to fuck with your hand. Still not bad at all. >CasiahShe removes the cards from ultra bar...
>>564161781Are you trying to imply that /ourguy/ Flares123 might be wrong in his evaluation? I have you know that he is a man of character and faith. He is very smart and his reasoning is sound for whatever stance he might take in regards to any subject that crosses his and our lives.
>>564161781He gets shit wrong here and there but when it comes to it he's always at the top of the leaderboardw and isn't a full blown leviathan
>>564162174A few retards here have a hateboner for him because said few retards here are the very same discordtroons that Flares dabbed on. Why do you think the discordtroon newfag guides are in the OP?
>>564161781because he's one of the highest ranked western players, if not the highest
>>564162174>>564162308>top of the leaderboard>in a game with 50 playerswow...
i'd feel bad for anyone who decided to pull 24 after seeing her at the top of flares dps tierlist
>>564162640Oh the discordtroon is MADLING lmao
>>56416269824 is fun to play tho.
>>564161480>medium awakeners get jiggle>Thais and Helot doesnt have them despite their huge titsLight is a medium guy I see
>>564162702you can keep slurping that SEA retard's cock
>>564162801Flares is WHITE why are you MADLING
I don't really mind e-celebs/opinion posting. But could you stop bringing up the faggot drama here too? >ummm ackchyuallyNo. Please, stop. I beg you :(
>>564162903Dont forget he's a man of faith too
>>564162903your SEA monkey eceleb is viet, sorry
ever since the 24 schizo came back and cried about threads not being on /vmg/ anymore this place turned to shitdoes he want to shitpost this general until everyone leaves and we have to return to /vmg/?
>>564163032>discordtroon guide 30 people reading>kingflares guide 110 people readingHe got banned AND grew STRONGER. KING of the WHITES gives NO fuck about your HRT treatment KEKYPYOW
check your mail, morifriends
i like arachne so farDOOMing enemies and watching the animation with them getting bisected is cool as fuck
God, I wish this thread had IDs so this tranny would shut the fuck up already about his thread enemy.Nobody cares.Talk about the fucking game.Learn to use filters if anons shitposting about Flares trigger you so much. What an insufferable aberration.
when will they make a character more fun to use than ghelot?
>>564163627they did, her name is mouchette
>>564163525wooo
>>564163525>no free +12 because I redistributed my Karen dupes last time we got a pyramid and I don't have another standard with dupes enough to pass to a good one I could +12 right nowIt's over...
Any info on the prime silver refund? Im not home
>>564162174every team of his has two or more +12s and he's account level 92. use your eyes gaywad.
>>5641639082.5.1
>expires in 13 daysDON'T OPEN
>>564164145No>sacrifices Alva
>>564164295i'll clarifyif you open it on may 1st it'll expire may 31st instead of april 31st
>>564164379or, rather, april 30th. because there is no april 31st.
>>564164145
>>564164483WHATholy fuark I'm awfully wrong
>>564164058Frick i was excited
>spend an hour on HSR madness>wash out in zone 2 like alwaysha ha maybe next month...
are you guys really using protoparadises to get standards to +12, getting the free gnosis pyramid, then resetting them? that really seems like you're taking advantage of the game's generosity.
