High Skill High Reward Edition>Previous>>563921896>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 crossplay, co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC, PS5 and XBox Series X/S where players fight against hordes of alien insects, robots and squids to Spread Democracy™. Players wage war on contested planets, each with a different biome, completing as many objectives as possible in a procedurally generated level while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful missions, a planet can be defended or liberated, and the player base must combine their efforts as much as possible to Liberate™ the galaxy.https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/helldivers-2/9mx9wn9dfpgt>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is a shared screen top-down shooter in the same setting. Its mechanics were based primarily on Arrowhead's first game, Magicka.https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/>LOBBY HOSTINGhttps://files.catbox.moe/83ixkr.png>MODDINGhttps://files.catbox.moe/c81ogo.png>INFORMATION RESOURCEShttps://helldivers.wiki.gg/https://helldiverscompanion.com/https://democracy-hub.nethttps://helldive.live>MAJOR NEWSFeb 10 Machinery of Oppression https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj5JS68ny14Mar 17 Entrenched Division https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3zP5GWoQi0Mar 17 Roadmap https://twitter.com/helldivers2/status/2033907671036743796Mar 20 Uncover the Truth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn_uyAaJ3Z0>LATEST PATCHESMar 17 1.006.100 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/541133047968301984Mar 25 1.006.101 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/507356684541232939Apr 14 1.006.102 (PS5 Low Energy Mode and XBox fixes)
warbond tuesday
Suggest a buff for supplemental adrenaline.
Siege Ready chads Im about to get Urban Legends
>want to play some good ol' helldivers 2>remember the game actively encourages running around alone>realize most of my time is spent holding WI'm super depressed friends.
>>564052775Remove it completely and give the armors that had it the Bulwark passive. You know, what they should have had from the beginning.
Hey what's the default button for waving the flag? On keyboard.
I hate the ultimatum. It makes the game too easy. Ruins the game. >then don't use it retardother people use itand they use it all the time
>>564053457hold R?>>564053103just move from team to team, eventually you'll find one that sticks together. Way more fun that way
>>564052775its strong with dead sprint/vitality
>>564052824I honestly think it's kind of overrated. I find myself using it very rarely these days.
so when are we getting loadouts?
>>564053869after the apc and cultists
>>564053475feel free to play solo>b-but I want 3 other teammates to distract the enemies while I sneak around destroying outposts / nests!!!!!
>>564053589This is excellent for making me hate
>>564053902that is the LAST thing I want from a coop game. I share this guy's >>564053103 feelings
>>564053589*dies to his squadmate's arc dog*
Out of all the fronts, the squid front has probably had the most lost planets and minimal progress. Pretty soon the GM won't have any more squid planets to farm izzat on because the players can't be fucked to interact with this boring faction outside of MOs
How do we stop solotards from destroying the coop genre
How do we stop swiggers from destroying swigger games
>>564053103Host lobbies and kick anyone with solofag loadouts.
I need more yummy slopbonds mmm delicious gimmick sidegrades piggy's favourite
>>564054641They're a symptom, not the problem. Stop catering to them, force people to cooperate, and the rest fixes itself.The issue with modern gamedev is that they're terrible at concentrating on a niche, their shareholders are never content with that and egging them on to spread the game thin for a wider appeal.
>>564054641Take away the supply packs ability to be used on the wearer. There. Easy.
>>564054641spawn units that are very annoying to deal with in huge numbers on solotards. solo divers can get 10 stalkers spawned on them on different directions. bots and squids need some kind of a cloaked sniper that doesn't telegraph its attack (make this unit spawn ONLY on solotards)
>>564054641Could always create maps with a linear layout.
>>564054641The introduction of the predator strain saw solofags crying endlessly until they nerfed enemy AI into the ground.I want a return to form. I demand solofags tears.
>>564055827How was predator strain nerfed?
I kind of regret getting Control group. I really dislike charge then explode guns, so the epoch is a bit shit for me. At least the warp pack might be fun.
>>564056403I used to hate the epoch too. Until I paired it with the hover pack. Makes it way nicer.
>>564056196Enemy AI as a whole was lobotomized.
>>564054578>me no like thing so no one like thing!I like fighting Squids, stay mad.
>lure mine only aggros when the host is aroundNUKE SWIGGERS
>>564056475I guess theres also a learning curve. I need to just let that shit go after the pods go in regardless of what i've aimed at, good or bad but as I never use explode guns I try and keep that shit for a little too long and boom.
>>564056480Imagine the seething if, instead of perambulating towards you, they made harvesters peek over hills to beam you and retreat back behind the hill to recharge their shields.
>>564056932that would be great because all the AI in this game is just "move towards player and attack him without caring for my own self-preservation", save for the alpha commanders that actually know how to retreat
>>564057568except for the smaller shits that like to spread out and surround the player
>>564056932Seeing the cyborgs actively engage in the most basic bitch strategy of diving for cover was a breath of fresh air and really reminded me how simplistic the AI is in this game.
Spawn caps should be upped on d10 and spawn changes should be made to the enemies as well. Bring back lower tier/enemy variants like the scout strider and regular bug commander. However, when these units are chosen to spawn over a rocket strider or alpha commander, they instead spawn in greater numbers. 5 scout striders replace a rocket strider, 5 commanders in place of the one alpha commander.
>Humiliation Ritual MO
On the topic of enemy AI, I get the feeling whenever I'm on a colony cities, bots start kicking me and my squad's ass. I can't quite pinpoint what the reason is though, sometimes it feels like they just magically get better aim or is it just cause they get a lot more patrol spawns in the cities and overwhelm you easier?
>check the companion app>eagle storm ready in about 12 hours>check back a few hours later>eagle storm activeHuh?
Stunning squid mechs with Pacifier and blasting them with the commando is really funIs the Pummeler a good alt for the paci?
>>564058067If this was possible, modders would have done it already. Problem is game shits itself, that's why we have hard cap on enemy units.
>>564058963Modders can't make engine changes. I want to live in a world where the swigger actually improves their product.
>>564058852Nah, it's pretty wank. You actually do want to stun the mechs and other squid units from pretty far away, where drag factor eats into the damage of SMG bullets, and the significantly lower RoF means it's slower at stunning stuff as well.
>>564058067I always found it strange that they didn't just mix in some of the bot subfaction units in to the normal spawn pool but something is telling me they literally can't change it due to spaghetti code. All they can really do is have some units replace others, but you'll never have a fire shield dev spawn alongside a normal shield dev or a factory strider alongside a vox engine. A shame really cause I feel like integrating the sub units into normal spawn pool would ramp up the difficulty a little on bots since you'll never know what will drop next
>>564059073Not gonna happen>T.Volvo enjoyer
>>564054974A fellow man of taste I see
i don't think
>>564059456I actually saw bot subfaction units spawn where they weren't supposed to BECAUSE of spaghetti code. This was on the most recent bot MO planet with cyborgs and incel korp, I had multiple times where jeet brigade stuff spawned completely out of nowhere and only in one part of the mission.
Jesus I've never seen such a retarded MO, Joel didn't even need to do any funny business the players just picked all the wrong planets
>>564060404this happens on the bug front every time, they just have the cattle numbers to back it up>30% of the playerbase currently once again, sandbagging the numbers and not helping out>every time there's a bug MO the other fronts are dead until it's done or at least secured
>be bugChad>do nothing>wins
I don't like enemies that shoot back that's why I only dive bugs
>bug>>>>>>chad
>already seething
>>564053589aliquis imaginem hanc bonam esse putavit. verus ioculator. videte armaturam. ea ex plastica aereque est.
>>564053103>remember the game actively encourages running around alone What?
>defense MO>Next MO will be ANOTHER defense one against the cyborg expansionNothing ever happens
>>564054641That's what happens in low trust communitiesNever had the "solofags ruin everything" in other coop heavy games. For example DRG, or Vermintide 2. If you need to fix this then introduce incentives for teaming up (Fallout 76 has different bonuses for different teams based on their stated objective, for example). Also make it less likely to be kicked for shit reasons. Like you can kick people a few times per hour but after that only if specified player has been flagged as team killer (just a thought from the top of my mind). But it doesn't matter. Arrowhead won't do anything.
>>564062005>he's already forgotten about elfshitters constantly speedrunning and back in the day running natural bond and being absolute selfish retards ruining every lobby they entered
>>564061026Your bile spewers?
I'm not even a solofag, I just go where the enemy is and get lost in the battlefield, and then I remember my team even exists.
>>564062724I hate them so much I quit any mission that spawns them
>Check time in india>8pmGuess he got off work and is on his computer again to do the thing again
>projecting
Us soloGAWDs carry the side objectives while everyone else is floundering around wasting time fighting endless enemy reinforcements(and failing)
>>564052824I dint understand siege ready, I very rarely ever run out of ammunition
>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T RUN ALONE AND COMPLETE THE OBJECTIVES TO SPEED UP THE GAME>YOU HAVE TO DRAG OUT THE MISSION FIGHTING WAVES OF ENEMIES THAT I KEEP TRIGGERING>N-NOT THAT I NEED HELP WITH IT
bots or bugs steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242433367787/76561198088743
>>564063915dumb nigger
>is... is that an enemy I can't solo?>AIEEEE ARROWHEAD NERF IT NOW RIGHT FUCKING NOOOOWW
>>5640640242/4
>solotrannies call themselves gods>they never host, always a clientThats crazy dawg. Why not?
>>564064160I say this
>>564064160>>564063915based nigger
I don't mean to solo, but everyone ignores my pings and stays in place too long, I like clearing outposts and objectives
>>564064160*presses C*You were saying?
>bugchaser enters thread>suddenly the thread is full of bait and shitflingingimagine how nice these threads would be if bugchasers didn't exist.
Solochads are benevolent enough to join as many missions in progress as possible to speed up their completion. They're doing the community a favour
>>5640640243/4
3/4
>solotrannies need to shit up the thread because they don't have any friends to talk toimagine my shock
>I will drag all the enemies to my location and deprive my teammates who is 500m away from me of all the action and I will not fight them!Soloniggers don't even play the game, they just drop down, go from point A to point B without fighting anything then extract. I don't understand them at all, why even play the game at that point?
>>564064321I will respond to pings and if I see someone going off alone I'll try to join them while the other 2 ignore usI hate when they reinforce me to them though
>>564064753>I don't understand them at all, why even play the game at that point?Because theyre bad but still want to feel like they beat a D10. Why do you think they never host?
>>564064024fvll
>>564053751>it's strong with Xlol
>>564063768Siege ready also gives ammo to support weapons without backpacks.
>>564064753They want the game to be easy, nothing else matters to them
>decide I'm going to start playing a mission or two every day to do the POs so I can get ready for the next warbond>First mission is black box megacity appropriators>Black box spawns inside a building or under a garbage pile or something>Alt-f4 in a fit of rage after running around the crash site dying over and over againFUCK ARROWHEAD. FUCKING USELESS RETARDED NIGGERS. YOU CANNOT EVEN SIGN INTO ONE SINGLE MISSION IN THIS GAME WITHOUT IT BEING NON FUCKING FUNCTIONAL. WHAT A FUCKING JOKE.
>be solonigger>host a private pure solo lobby>drop down>get raped on the very first bug breach / bot drop>rage quits and join a public lobby>now they have 3 other teammates to distract the enemies away from them so they can sneak away and clear the objectives>HAHAHAHA LOOK LOOK I SOLO'ED D10 WITH 0 DEATH, GAME TOO EASY NERF EVERYTHING NOW
People really should say "thank you" more often to solobros whenever they clear the map for them while they're wasting reinforcements
>>564065735>made the game less fun for meno, fuck you. Fortunately I am just normal enough to not sperg out at people because that just wastes even more time out of my day
>>564054641Gee, maybe introduce incredibly powerful items (not shit to use) that encourage teamwork?The Bastion tank killed itself thanks to the 30 degree spin on its own cannon, the person in the gunner's seat has the most miserable experience imaginable.
>>564054641Friendship doors at every base
>>564054641This issue has been solved over a decade ago. Add an enemy type that runs you down and can incapacitate you. Darktide even has a system where it will spam dogs at you if youre too far away from the rest of the team.
>Decide to go full anti-watcher patrol because tires of endless "enemy dropships" .>Successfully obliterate every watcher for the first 10 minutes.>Notice they start to spawn endlessly at this point, often in the sky and already blinking.Yeah this isn't unfun malicious coding at all.
>>564067103When the cooldown for drops is off, its so obvious when the game is trying to force another drop. Its honestly obnoxious than it is challenging because I know this isnt done organically and that some fucking swede coded this in with malicious intent.
>>564067103squids have this unique ability of just spawning out from the ass around the player. you can see and hear the teleport/warp effect of them spawning
>>564067103My favourite is the one that spawns right behind you just behind the smallest rock or wall and instantly pops flares
>>564066902I'm sure this wouldn't cause any outcry from the very mature Helldivers community
>>564066681ThisYou should have never been able to reload back-pack fed AT by yourself, or it should have been incredibly slow to the point that team reloading was infinitely superior.The Supply Pack shouldn't exist.
>nerfags crying againFeels good knowing that AH caters to buffchads like me
>>564067312This shit definitely happened too. I was in the middle of an open area with a single human sized rock. Killed a patrol of 3 watchers, saw faggotworks, turned around and there's a watcher 5 feet away that had zero chance of being there. I hate the enemy reinforcements and the entire way enemies just fucking spawn and despawn.
Helldivers 2 is a game for the ball and gun audience, cry about it nerds
Borgs are the only time this isn't a snoozefest
>>564066902Starship Troopers has a better mechanic, it chooses a player to target with a homing patrol. If they aren't around allies they're shit out of luck. Players out alone are more likely to be picked as targets. Although I guess the Swedes *did* try implementing homing patrols but the AI, even when working, is teasily outsmarted. Their other attempts at spawning enemies when players aren't together just led to teleporting patrols in-between grouped players.
>>564067783Appropriators are also pretty fun with bricks.Especially if they spawn a fucking harvester right behind you.
>see a watcher's light through the skyscraper>wait for the watcher to round the corner so i can kill it>the watcher sloooooowly moves towards the edge>calls for reinforcements before it, unseen by me or anyone else, even reveals itself
>>564063915Working alone to overcome possible odds just isn't that fun.The only way to die most of the time without intentionally committing suicide is fighting near your teammates despite it being sub optimal for a variety of reasons because they'll just find some stupid way to accidentally teamkill you.
>>564067103That's just what happens as you clear the map. The first cleared out camp increases spawns by 15%, clearing them all increases it to 25%. Completing the primary is another 30%, and being close to extraction increases it like sevenfold or something like that.Staying on top of snitch killing is very rewarding either way, to the point that I don't play squids without the warrant.
>>564068469source: your assclearing the main objective increases spawns, that's it.source: my ass
>>564068569https://helldivers.wiki.gg/wiki/Spawn_Mechanics
>>564067767>ball and gun audienceThe wat? Oh nevermind it's coonspeak for run and gun right?
>>564068702So it's exactly what I said. Malicious unfun bullshit. If players out but he effort they should be able to prevent reinforcements except at mission objectives.
>>564068903You can still do that, you just need to be ready for higher pressure when you go near objectives and camps.
I drew a Helldiver for funI have a couple drawings around here but Dont care to shill myself
>>564065242That's interesting
>>564069090
>>564069090"Get a load of this guy"
>>564068729It's people who only play FIFA and COD
>>564069516Yeah that's what he said.
>>564069090leandiver pose, rape
This has probably been one of the worst piloted MOs in a long time. Joel hasn't does anything swiggerdly at all and the blob has made the worst decision every time. It's impressive how little the players have learned after 2 years.
>>564069090cute, good job
>>564064404I literally solodive to to complete the MO and extract if its a group of lvl30-60 doing a d10. Thoae faggots dont deserve any extra xp.
Ded thread, ded game, here's a lobby.steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242442301871/76561198040375859
>>5640705103/4
I swear to fuck reloading is broken. The amount of times I do nothing and the reload only half-completes the animation, no stagger, no flinch, nothing to possibly stop it, is getting aggravating.
>>564070510Still 3/4, quit having real lives and come play vidya games with us
>>564052347Squigger drones are pissing me off and I am considering spending my super shekels on the warrant
why do i have to press my fucking face into every vaultable obstacle for 2 seconds while the "can't climb" symbol flashes before my character actually climbs over it now
>>564070510FVLL
>>564071404because swiggersyes that's why
>>564071283I did this and never looked back. I can go entire missions without getting spotted, it's fucking nuts.
>>564064024crashed on extraction ggs
>>564071283bro your talon?
>>564071283Primary version when
>>564071404Because players insisted on having vaultable supply pods back, not understanding that Narrowhead fucking around with the vaulting would just break it.
>>564071924ggs
>>564071404meatballs and ikea, my friend
>>564072048>victim blaming
>>564071137I keep pressing the button until I see the bar refill
>>564071936The talon has been a meme ever since they added sway to secondaries.
>>564072404you don't play the game
>>564072404Not saying it's objectively superior to the warrant, but i am saying it solves the watcher problem. At least in my unskilled hands. Works on my machine.
>>564072404me when i lie
>>564071936I don’t have the warbond and beam lasers are shit>>564071883I have exactly 300 super shekels, got the last ten and first thing after failing the mission due to retard nigger randos deciding to go after the last outpost on the other side of the map while there’s only one minute left till the super destroyer leaves orbit its not in the superstore rotation
>>564071283Just get the WASP.
>>564073096>Talon>Beam laserIt's a projectile.
>>564072404>>564072540Talon is very obviously pretty good at sniping stuff, but you really do feel the difference between it and the warrant when a snitchbot demands your attention in a high pressure moment, where the latter has perfect aim regardless of whether you're upright, running away from something, and wildly aim snapping around. This often ends up being the difference between preventing a call in and having to deal with the aftermath.
>>564073120I am a whore for super shekels so I always bring the warp packUnless it’s stationary defense missions >>564073460Might get borderline justice after redacted regiment depending on if the new warbond sucks
I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMOREGIVE ME THE BOND, YOU FUCKING SNOW MONKEYS
>>564075274next week, latinx
whoever said the lib pen was good needs to kill himself right now. even with the drum mag it almost takes a full mag to kill one overseer with the dogshit sway.
>>564075785Shoot the head
>>564075949that's for when I bring the Censor nigga. I ain't aiming the head with an AR.
>>564075785>even with the drum mag it almost takes a full mag to kill one overseer with the dogshit sway.This is easily the most insane hyperbole I've heard in this general yet. It takes 12 shots to kill an Overseer just mag dumping his chest with the LibPen, you are dog shit.
The izzat must flow
Im the one who pioneered using the warrant against watchersThank me
cringe commandos-pocket stalwartreddit enforcers-at ease>pocket plasmapolice brutality-arc grenade launcherwhich one?
>>564076317What does this mean....
>>564076417It means the GM (Udit the Jeet) is trying to rig the MO by dangling keys in front of everyone.
>>564076330You had the novel idea of using a weapon that's guaranteed to land its shots against the unit that heavily punishes missing? Damn...
>>564076553Yeah, it seems obvious which is why Im suprised I was the first person to do it
>>564075785i think you need to go to the doctor because you might just have parkinsons.
>>564076624>>564076330I'm sorry your dad never loved you
>>564076529Can you explain like more directly? Im kinda stupid and don't understand the Galactic War that much, like that pic confuses me too since I don't understand how we're winning despite the fact that our timer finishes after theirs
>>564076412Which enemy front do you care about the most?Squiggers? MaxiFUN. Bugs? Descalator. Bots? Loyalist.
>>564076026>Censor>Shooting Overseers in the head
>>564076737Its okay, I'm mostly over it nowadays, I wish he would have told me he did but its whatever now, maybe he did and I just didnt remember because I wss too young
>>564076756Hes trying to pull people off the planet with eagle storm to make it so we dont liberate it before the buff expires and we lose the planet thus losing the MO.
>>564076932Thank you
is it just me or is the game more buggy? I take random damage out of nowhere. dogshit game holy shit.
>>564076932Anon how new are you? We cant win this MO, we got around 28 hours left and still have to Defend 3 more attacks. At best we get Hort and AIN-5 done in that time
>>564077251it means some laggy cunt in the team is causing the desync where you randomly lose health even after stimming
>>564077251Last night during a defense between waves, the guy right next to me kept taking damage from literally nothing and then it abruptly stopped. Broken fucking game.
Chat, this MO is cooked. On god, for real. No cap.
>>564070134The game literally never explains how the map works. The blame will never be on anyone but AH until there is literally anything in game to explain things. It also doesn't matter because AH does whatever the fuck they want to make MOs go in whichever narrative direction they want. Lacks of explaining the map helps them so this so it's never going to change.Tl;dr. Dive where you want. The MO doesn't matter because it's bullshit.
Hey, remember how we have a black hole gun on the DSS and we apparently will just never use it again? Remember when we had an E-711 fuel meter we had to fill up to fire it? Remember the Super Earth Restoration projects?
>It's another DSS eagle strike wiping out everyone on extract episodeGetting real sick of this shit, im wondering if shield relays work on countering this
>>564076816Pocket stalwart is Viper commandos.
>>564079280>im wondering if shield relays work on countering thisNope. the eagle will just instantly destroy the shield. You WILL pay the reinforcement tax
sex with bots
>>564079280I want to say that the eagle storm will target players directly when there are no enemies to target. Not intentionally target the player, per se, but default to the players' the position as sort of origin point.
>>564080479many such cases
>>564070510GG lads
>>564079280I feel like i live in a different reality from you guys, Eagle Strike hasn't gotten me teamkilled in months>>564080654I'm 99% sure it aimed at the corpse there, they do that shitThey also randomly decide to aim at destructible objects
>>564080654There are "people" who will tell you that this never happens even after seeing this.
>>564079280wouldn't have it any other way
>>564081282Because theyre still in denial that the eagles are in fact coded to target players and can simply be toggled off.
>>564079405Oh right, the libcarb. The fact it didn't even register to me should tell you something about how I feel about it. I was excited to get it because funny high RoF gun but now I genuinely don't care. I would argue that experimental infusion as well as heavy and light PP are way better reasons to get viper commandos.
>>564076932It was over way before that nigga they fucked up as soon as they decided to pile on hydrobius>>564076317>level 7 invasionAbsolute baby mode
Create five stratagems that demand at least two people to be properly functional and would be cool as fuck/would actually see frequent use.
>>564081931No
>>564075785I didn't think this is a skill issue, but perhaps a physical handicap? You should see a doctor, anon.
>>564069090:O:)
Old bombardment was way more kino than current Eagle Storm
>>564082815No, it's really a piece of shit against the aliens right now. The dogshit firerate, coupled with the shit sway when you equip the drum mag makes it a chore. Only 6 mags too so it runs out immediately. You niggers are just like sloptubers that claim the C4 is S-tier or some retarded shit.
>>564081931I want a teammate launching catapult that can launch your allies crazy distances, but someone has to be in a cuck chair to aim and fire while someone else is in the barrel.
>>564067335>hunter-killer enemies that can incapacitate>objectives that require more than one person>enemies that can keep pace with, if not outrun, players>more enemy spawns in generalthese are all things that co-op games have been doing for almost 20 years to make players stay togetherthis is a completely solved issue for everyone except Arrowhead because this is the first co-op game they've made that didn't rely on the players sharing a single screen
>>564083336No, anon, you actually have some medical problem. The LibPen with any muzzle attachment is laser accurate and, again, only takes 12 shots to the chest to kill an Overseer.Even with stray misses, that's four dead Overseers per drum mag. In regards to killing this specific enemy, the LibPen is one of the most efficient non-explosive/non-energy weapons.
>MMG>Gun Dog>MG + Gatling Turret>Engineering Kit ArmorYep its squid killing time
>game ate 10sc:(
>>564083336>You niggers are just like sloptubers that claim the C4 is S-tier or some retarded shit.oh, you're just retarded on purpose for baiting (you)s
>>564083583Every gun is laser accurate if you shoot where the sway is located at, dumb fuck. The TTK on this shit absolutely miserable and the fact that it takes 12 shots minimum is not worth bringing when a shotgun can kill them in 2-3 with a much snappier response, which makes up for the low mag size and range.>four dead Overseers In reality you're more likely to kill 2, 3 if you're lucky. Good luck with the ajudicators too.
>>564053589I've always found the idea of a helldivers "oc" very sad and juvenile. Not in the sense of "this is to childish and cringe" but "I don't understand the finality of death and the nature of attrition" you see all these people making characters out of a helldiver. Even going so far as to have them not wear their helmets and show off their face. When the reality is their OC is dead on the first deployment and their codename is something they put in a news briefing attributing everything they did to a single name as if five people didn't die with it to accomplish the objective.
>>564084926I think it's based because it goes against Swedish misery wank.by the way send 1 trillion Indians and Muslims to Sweden.
>>564084683>muh swayYour Parkinsons is not the gun's problem. The gun does not have the sway you keep claiming it does. Go see a doctor.>when a shotgun can kill them in 2-3Only a medium penetrating shotgun, and the spread, actual spread, means anything beyond 20 meters becomes unreliable.>and the fact that it takes 12 shots minimum is not worth bringing whenIt takes the Liberator and LibCarbine 13 shots.It takes the Adjudicator 8 shots (stuck with a 30 round mag)
>>564084926the best part? these people that make this gay af bio/OCs are actually bad at the game. just some 35+ console dadgamer boomers who think they are hot shit.
>>564054641>picrel of me yapping, sorryI don't think there is a solution that could work without reworking how the enemies, missions, and the helldivers themselves work.There are no enemies in the game that punish stragglers or people rushing ahead of the team like the hunter, smoker, charger, or jockey in the case of l4d2 or the cave leech in drg. The closest you get is when someone gets chain stunned by the standard overseer's melee or jumped by one or more stalkers, and even then most of the time that results in a death in mere seconds.Players don't get downed and thus don't need a teammate to help them be recovered like they do in l4d2 or drg. Instead players die and can be reinforced anywhere at anytime by anyone as long as there's reinforcements and no ion storm or stratagem jammer interfering.Teams aren't forced to stick together by being stuck on the same screen like they seem to in the first game (haven't played it).Objectives rarely require more than one person to resonably pull off.Coop elements are mostly very niche. Stimming a diver if they are out of stims can come in clutch but because of the two tap nature of most enemies, your teammate is going to be dead long before you're able to stim them unless you're practically right next to them when they need help. Team reloads are a COMPLETE meme, requiring you to carry their backpack and the team reload will break if there's so much as a pebble's worth of a height difference between the two helldivers. Resupplying a teammate is nice but ammo, grenades, and (sometimes) stim packs are plentiful on any sort of settlement or metropolis map, and the resupply pod can be called in every three or so minutes, which it is genuinely hard to burn through all of your ammo and stims in that amount of time, even on the most spam heavy of d-10 missions. BUDDY DOORS REQUIRE MORE COOPERATION THAN OBJECTIVES and even those can be cheesed with warp packs.
>>564084926People throw around the media literacy thing as a joke, but stuff like >>564053589 is people that genuinely cant see past 'guns and shooting aliens', and fully buy into the ironic propaganda.
>>564085387>cont.The closest I've seen to arrowhead discouraging solodivers was when the predator strain got first introduced because they spawned so frequently that you needed a battle buddy if you didn't want to be spitroasted via tongues. Off topic but I swear we haven't had an MO involving the predator strain since they were first added. Rupture strain for days...Some of the only times I've seen the whole team stick together is when mission control says the line about the reinforcement budget running low, the team is mostly newer players, or it's a bunch of level 150s with nothing to prove by running off soloing a mega fortress/nest and are sticking together because they merely want to. Mission objectives like raising the flag are some of the only times I'll see the whole team of randos converge because you usually need four people and their stratagems to deal with the amount of enemies charging you. I despite hive worlds outside of super credit farming, but they also encouraged sticking together when underground if only because you can't toss down a panic machine gun sentry or eagle-1 strafing run.
>>564081931Make buddy loading work if the backpack is on the gunner. That alone would help a lot. But to actually answer your question:>portable pulse laser cannon: Requires two people to carry it in their backpacks, one with the platform and another with the barrel, the 2nd will gattai with the 1st to make a clunky but powerful shoop da whoop cannon. Copy-paste for ballistic and plasma variants.>Portable data link: backpack slot computer that with consent can link to a buddy and take manual control of their guided munitions. Turns Spears, Commandos, Seeker grenades, etc. into TV guided weapons by the other diver.>GPS tracking dart: Stim pistol but it shoots targeting darts that make stratagems and homing weapons unerringly strike the dart and thus whatever it's stuck to.>Tesla field: shield relay but it puts up a wall of arc damage in one direction only>Graviton guns: a pair of disposable energy beam weapons that come down like EATs. Like a disposable laser cannon on their own, but you can cross the streams Ghostbusters style to make a big kaboom at the crossing point.
>>564085232I think you're misunderstanding one thing. When I say sway I don't mean the idle sway, I'm talking about the delay between moving your aim and the actual crosshair catching up.>means anything beyond 20 meters becomes unreliable.This is not even a good point since almost all your interaction with the enemies in the Illuminate faction are within that range anyways. 20 meters is a lot too.>brings up 2 derivatives that are equally dogshitwow what an amazing point.
>>564085260Sometimes I wonder how hard it is to be completely ass at Helldivers 2. You can always just strap hellbombs to yourself and chuck dynamite around and be semi useful.>>564085468Well I find the idea of "Media Literacy" to be reductive. People often understand what they're reading. They just want to enjoy it at face value because its simpler to them and more fun. 40k is the obvious example since people just like the big power armored murder men who kill whoever the Imperium tells them to. They get that what they do is wrong, but they really like the big power armored chainsword men. Especially since the big poeer armored murder men kill space daemons from time to time when the civillians consider them an acceptable form of alternative governance by comparison.
>>564085387The worm specifically targets solofags. Game definitely needs more punishments for solofags or slowfags, but I wouldnt ever want objectives that require two people, one guy pressing buttons while three guys shoot is ideal. The real question is how do you add solofag punishers with what they have now, because they sure as hell wont do actual work and make new assets.>bugs have the worm, but only as a mission mod>could make stalkers longer range, and more spawns from a single nest>bots have gunships, but they are a gear check and trivial if you pass that check>could make special gunships that act more like stingrays>squids have stingrays, but only on the basic squid faction, and again an easily passed gear check.>the mind control squid would be optimal, but swedes will never admit they scrapped 90% of the actual squid faction.
>>564086127>I'm talking about the delay between moving your aim and the actual crosshair catching up.So increase the ergo. It's possible to have an ergo of roughly 52 with iron sights and an angled foregrip combined with the drum mag. The difference between 50 and 100 ergo is so negligible it's not even worth discussing, the only difference between the two is that at 50 ergo, the circle trails just a smidge behind the crosshair. It's only when you start going into the <40 territory that crap gets bad.>means anything beyond 20 meters becomes unreliable.>This is not even a good point since almost all your interaction with the enemies in the Illuminate faction are within that range anyways. 20 meters is a lot too.No, not really. I can and do catch Squids at further than 20 meters a lot because I actually position myself properly.>Struggles with the LibCarbine on SquidsYou're just trash, kid.
>>564085387>dead long before you're able to stim them unless you're practically right next to them when they need helpYeah, and if you're wearing heavier armour than they are you'll never catch up to them.Semi-unrelated, but I find it annoying how badly they course corrected body damage effects. Yes, broken legs and chest bleeds were rare to the point of irrelevant - but the few times I did have to limp across the map while slowing bleeding out before I could get a stim was a rewarding game moment. Now its just a stim or die.
>>56408660130 elevated overseers spawned directly in the solofag's asshole
>>564085387This may be a hot take but I don't actually like disablers in co-op games. Whilst I get them i. Left 4 Dead I don't like them in games like Darktide and others. Since almost no game has made disablers as fair or easily readable as Left 4 Dead. Helldivers 2 does have some enemies akin to this, but they're always managable because the game is ultimately designed around being POSSIBLE solo. Personally I just think we need more tools to make it worthwhile. Especially since the original design ethos was that enemies were most effectively to be killed with focus fire, but the devs quickly found out that that doesn't work.
>>564086643>It's possible to have an ergo of roughly 52 with iron sights and an angled foregrip combined with the drum mag.I don't really care about what the numbers do because you know something will be changed because of bullshit reasons in the next month knowing the retarded devs, but I do have the iron sight and angled grip and it's still ass.>circle trails trails just a smidgeAre you retarded or something? Is that why you think it's a smidge lmao? It's an even bigger delay than the audio delay on bluetooth headphones, and that shit is noticeable.Also you know we're talking in meters right, not feet?>You're just trash, kid.What is it with PvE games attracting the biggest tryhard faggots that are dogshit when they're thrown into into an actual PvP game? You talk like a Souls PvP fag lmao.
>>564087262>I don't really care about what the numbers do because you know something will be changed because of bullshit reasons in the next month knowing the retarded devs, but I do have the iron sight and angled grip and it's still ass.Then it's entirely a (you) problem, cope.>Are you retarded or something? Is that why you think it's a smidge lmao?Yeah, because I have functional eyes and a human reaction time. Weird how I do just fine with this gun on Squids while you somehow fumble so bad you can barely kill one Squid with 60 rounds. If you want to see what your idea of bad sway is, then go equip the Eruptor with a 4x combat scope.>What is it with PvE games attracting the biggest tryhard faggots You are literally the one who started this entire thing by insisting this gun was bad, clapping your chest, and then calling the entire general a bunch of Twitch streamer wannabes who also suck off the C4.
>>564086601Solo punishments have perverse results.>if there's a worm no chance in hell am I standing anywhere near my team-mates who will either aggro it or spam reds with no regard>predators are just a gear check, anything with high stagger neutralises them>stalkers are antigroup, they specifivally knock players away from the team>best way to deal with chargers is to split>best way to deal with impaler spam is to scatter>warstriders are AoE denial and if not immediately killed have to be rundiver'd>near everything on the bot front is capable of ragdolling a player away from the team>stingrays punish groups more than solosThere are too many enemy and weapon mechanics that discourage close teamplay. If the tank had actual armour and the side pockets had resupplies, it would actually encourage the team to play around it. We need more strats like that.
>>564086592I don't know a ton about the 40k lore, but I know there is a lot more full blown evil stuff in the space marine universe than the space marines themselves. The 40k human propaganda doesn't seem nearly as overtly ironic like the Helldivers propaganda. The Democracy Officer tells you that you are there to liberate resources, the 40k stuff calls it cleansing or purging as if it were righteous.A lot of the space marine lore wank comes from the structure of military + religion that appeals to men/boys who have zero experience with either. Helldivers' appeal to people who dont get the joke is the guns and shooting aliens, them ignoring propaganda stuff just makes them look even more foolish.
I have used the Trident laser shotgun. It was kinda neat but light pen is rough.
>>564084926I make Helldivers OCs and then burn the paper i wrote the backstory on whenever I die
>>564087868Getting thrown 10 meters, circling to the far side of a POI, or getting on the far side of a charger is hardly solofagging. Solofagging is specifically splitting away from everyone else to do objectives while breaches/drops happen elsewhere, and clearing the map while only dealing with static POI spawns.
>>564087680Your slow reaction time actually helps mitigate that delay but you're too stunted to realize that, you know that right? The world moves slower in your mind so you barely notice the delay lmao. >Weird how I do just fine with this gun on Squids while you somehow fumble so bad you can barely kill one Squid with 60 rounds. Oh my bad I lied on that actually lmao. The TTK is still dogshit though.>then go equip the Eruptor with a 4x combat scope.Dude that gun is overpowered. Lib pen is just a shitty AR with none of the benefit of the Eruptor. If I'm bringing a gun with shit sway I'd rather just bring something that does more than just kill junk or Overseers, and the real joke is that it kills Overseers around the same TTK as a lib pen.>then calling the entire generalYou mean two faggots that still play this game seriously? lmao.
>>564088519All those stories wil be lost... like tears in rain.
>>564084926I've never gotten it either. I've only ever gotten somewhat attached to my helldivers a handful of times and it's when they survived a few missions and it was significantly less attachment than I have for a pawn in rimworld or a character in crusader kings.The first time I got attached to my diver was when I managed to play three d-10 bot operations without dying once. The fate of that diver you may ask? He was knocked to the ground by a direct hit from a devastator rocket, and while on the ground, got shot by a MG raider. He died clearing out some random medium bot outpost on a back water planet with no settlements or cities cities that wasn't even part of a major order. He was immediately replaced by another guy with the same set of armor and gear.For every guy who did died after doing that, there were dozens upon dozens that stepped on landmines, got stuck in terrain and had to be mercy killed, got friendly fired, got stuck in terrain and had to be mercy killed, blown up, drowned in a two foot puddle, arc dogged, got stuck in terrain and had to be mercy killed, and so on. The number of my divers that have been immediately annihilated by a cannon turret within seconds of deploying out of a hellpod on a bot mission is well within the double digits.The same sort of focus on original characters happens in space station 13 and I think it is why the headcannon of helldivers being clones became a decent bit widespread at one point despite all signs being that the helldivers are just super patriotic super earth citizens that volunteered to be a combination of commandos and Chinese warlord era Dare-To-Die Corps. They don't want to think about their super special oc getting turned into a red mist via a landmine. As long as people aren't too cringe about their ocs I don't really care since it (USUALLY) doesn't have any in game impact.
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242463185783/76561198126520852D10, Robots.
>>564089608FVLL.
>>564089273The issue with OCs like that is that it's a slippery slope towards the whole package of discord shit, it's an attractor state of narcissism.
Is this worth getting? Not gonna lie, I've not used eagle strats much besides strafing run and 500kg. The alternatives are all the t5 modules besides orbitals t5, which I already got as you can see.
>>564087061I like them in l4d but I don't think they'd work in helldivers. I had to cut that clarification in the op because I was yapping too much and hit the character limit. It works in l4d because l4d has linear maps and you're never more than ten to twenty seconds away from whoever got pounced unless they REALLY wandered off. In which case they probably deserved to have their entrails yanked out of them by that hunter. In drg, the maps are far larger than l4d's and they aren't typically linear but they are still far less open than helldivers 2 maps which are almost always a giant multi kilometer circle in a vast field. I would be pissed if I had to spend three minutes running over to revive my teammate if it used a l4d/drg style knockdown system and most players would probably just let you die and then reinforce if you weren't immediately right next to them if helldivers added any sort of disabler enemy.
>>564090003upgrades are always worth getting since samples are free and you're going to cap out anyways.also the next level above that is faster eagle re-arm if you send it away with charges left on it
My modlist includes:Mandalorian music, anime music, funny sfx, weaboo input sounds, anime girl diver voices, Killzone ship crew replacements, anime Pelican and Eagle voices, anime mission control, anime cyborg enemies, funny text replacers, QoL.
>>564088717>This is just totally not possible to use, guys. It's devastating, I can't hit anything with this.Even if you're pretending, this is embarrassing.
>>564054641Why do people still blame the community when the devs have all the power to make this possible without being forceful?>could just make vehicles more reliable and meta to use>but they will never make it possible since it goes against their swedish misery porn fantasy
speaking of the eagle, it took until I was nearly level 60 to start using it. I thought that eagle was like the orbital laser where you had a set number of uses and once you used them up you didn't have eagle support for the rest of the mission. I only learned the truth and the power of Eagle-1 after a mission where I saw the other three guys in the squad using eagles all mission and asked them about it. did you guys have any of those sort of obvious in hindsight realizations?
>>564090886The same one, and and also I didnt know for the longest time that you don't by default like have all your ammo and like grenades and stuff, because the person I play with just always brought the thing that makes you start with everything filled
>>564086127>I think you're misunderstanding one thing. When I say sway I don't mean the idle sway, I'm talking about the delay between moving your aim and the actual crosshair catching up.I don't have a horse in this race but that's not what sway is. that's gun handling/ergonomics. you're not using the correct terminology so of course there's going to be confusion
>>564091590Everyone always brings it, it's the best booster in the game.Jewtubers will tell you not to bring it because you're planning for deaths or some shit like that, but they're retarded.
>>564092234I still think that 90% of the reason it's a top tier pick is simply because not having it has you spawn with half your stims, which is very punishing. Nobody really cares that much about ammo and grenades, since those are easy to find during missions.If the default no-booster supplies were changed to start with 3 stims, then the booster would suddenly become much less attractive.
>>564092636Depends on the weapons and grenades you have.If you have a primary that drains mags like crazy you will run out twice as fast.But yes, the main issue is that you always die when shit hits the fan and when you're reinforced into the shitstorm you really do need all of your stims to survive.
I cannot fucking wait for snowy forests. They're coming, I tell you.
>solofag reinforces you
Is there like a steamsale for helldivers or something? The quality of pub games and the actions of the blob have been extra bad as of late.
I know for a fact that nobody who complains about "the blob" actually plays the game for enjoyment
>>564093398a lot of people got carried through the ladder on cyberstan
>>564093398If they're anuthing like me, people who held off because of the rootkit AC have been frothing at the gash for something new and fun to the point where they said "aaah fuck it."
>>564093321My CPU is not ready.
>>564093483The blob always makes stinky decisions, but this MO has been continuous errors. Wrong planets to attack, sending the DSS to wrong planets, using the eagle storm on the wrong planet, splitting across cities to waste effort, ignoring cities when they liberate the planet faster, splitting on attacks to waste effort, etc. Joel hasn't had to manipulate anything for us to lose this one which is out of the norm.
>>564090886I think some anon recommended Eagle Strafing Run which is now one of my most used stratagems but besides that anything cool about the game usually gets raped into oblivion by the retarded devs so my only other hindsight was wishing I cheated all the resources in much earlier.>>564091949Yea my bad. I just don't really give a shit about the specifics in this game, especially when you know shit is just going to flip flop within a month or two. I don't even bother remembering the enemy names too because the devs don't really care either. I just know that some guns feel like ass for no good reason and can tell the devs do their best to teeter between the line of "how much retarded shit can we do to make the experience miserable for the players" like with the hellpod steering/climbing triggers and "sony will rape us if we do too much of it".
>>564089273I get attached to mine because I get immersed in games pretty easily and I actually value each Helldiver's life in this game.I think of them as poor, clueless 18-year olds who were either conned into signing up or they genuinely just wanted their families to have better lives. It's why the LOL SO FUNNY teamkilling pisses me the fuck off on a whole different level than "I got to extract with a nice, round 0 deaths and you went and fucked it up", like congrats retard you just took a son or daughter away from a family and now the patriarch of the family is sent to a labor camp because he can't pay the debt that was transferred to him from the diver you just executed.
>>564093381A real solofag would open the map, see that you died near another player, then close the map and go back to what they were doing.
>>564093981Just remember: everything we do is canon according to the devs :^)
>>564093381I'll be starting to solo stealthfag soon and do all the shit that annoys people with them, thank you for motivating me
>>564094203High Command is probably very puzzled as to why thousands of Super Destroyers (including mine) keep going off the frontlines and sending lone divers onto completely deserted planets just to warp into bunkers and then go away
>>564093398Mechs are slightly harder than normal opponents on D10 and squids overall require game knowledge instead of gear checks to effectively counter.Squid units have a lot of weak points, but not knowing which weak point to shoot at makes them very tanky and very deadly compared to shit like bots and bugs where pretty much every heavy can be countered with an RR to the head.
>>564094419>i dont know why i was shot in the head
>>564094419>I'll be coming out of the closet soon and suck all the dick that annoys them, thank you for grooming me
>>564093981Have you done the D1 to 10 survival challenge yet?
>>564095606Yeah, I've tried it a few times, haven't succeeded yet.D1 to D5 can be such a slog that I don't try it that often.
>>564095805Remember, if that helldiver completes all 24 missions they get a C-01.
>no timer on the current Eagle StormHow else am I supposed to know when to dive on Hort again?
>>564096058just look at the DSS, it says there
>>564096058Check the DSS summary. It says 14 hours and 16 minutes.
>>564096036Holy shit, the power of dick will carry me through
warbond trailer tuesday warbond thursday
>>564095334>immediately projecting weird transgender stuff
>>564096216>>564096373Oh good, that's not too long before I can return to rainstorms in the city.
>>564093381You're my battle buddy now and are gonna help me with my objective :)
*cough* c-content... do— *dies*
>>564098173
>>564089608gg
>>564089608GGs.
>>564094534No, they know it stimulates the economy. Hail democracy.
>>564052775more stamina per dmg taken
>blueguy calls resupply on himself however far from the group >call one on the objective>purple calls needs stims>jackass blue takes both remaining boxesyes i tk'ed
Tried the Loyalist vs bots and squids and I'm surprised I never see anyone use it, it's easily one of the strongest sidearms in the game with the Talon
Hardcore anal on leandivers by bug ovipositors and getting their guts filled with larvae
>>564052347Ok I own democratic demolition, siege breakers, dust devils, control group, servants of freedom and urban legendsShould I just get redacted regiment now and save up for the next one? Nothing else really peaks my interest outside borderline justice for the weapons and hover pack
>>564101569>to the domeIt clearly landed behind the War Strider so all you got was a portion of the explosion.>>564102079People here are allergic to charge-up weapons for some reason. The Loyalist is easily one of the best sidearms in the game, its only "flaw" is that the explosion can't close spawners.
>>564102130chemical agents gets you gas grenade and gas dog, if you like the gas speargun from dust devils
>>564102229>It clearly landed behind the War Strideryou can clearly see it landing on the railgun and breaking it with its impact
>>564102130Steeled VeteransPolar PatriotsBorderline JusticeRedacted RegimentEntrenched DivisionPython CommandosChemical AgentsFreedom's FlameTruth EnforcersViper CommandosCutting EdgeForce of LawMasters of CeremonyIn roughly that order.
Warbond this week?
>>564102079I usually put something with splash damage into my primary slot and it feels harrowing not having something I can shoot point blank in at least one of the slots.
>>564069090cool art anonwhere can I find more?
>>564102731the esoteric numerlogical oujia has determined the warbond is to be released on the 28th
>>564102229I knows what I seen.
>>564102240I like the spear gun because it hits hard, the gas I don’t much care for and wish it had a HEAT alt fire mode>>564102531Is this satire or something?
>>564103460What makes you think it's satire?
>>564081846proof?
When it comes to solo'ing there's always a time and place for it. If absolutely nothing is getting done by my teammates you bet your ass I'm gunning for the objectives solo.
>>564083627the car is supposed to go forwardleandiver drivers, amirite?
>>564102531>Steeled VeteransI swear anybody recommending this bond today is mentally stuck in 2024.The Senator isn't even top three in sidearms anymore. The Dominator is a lumpy piece of shit, the Breaker Incendiary got kneecapped by the "not a Coyote nerf" nerf, and the incendiary grenade is the definition of mid.
>>564105181>top three in sidearms anymoreTruly spoken like someone who mains the Crutchimatum.
>>564104434>not leandriversIt was right fucking there, handed to you on a golden platter, and you somehow missed it.
>>564105432Cry about it>Ultimatum>Grenade Pistol>TalonAll three are better.
>>564053589ngl i would wear that armor
>>564105181What ones are better? Ive been using the Halo one just because it can fire really fast and I've been using the Sweeper lately so the pistol i find like is best for just killing the really weak small stuff fast
>>564103895Most of my knowledge on what warbonds are good are from tier lists ornposts here, they dictated the ones I boughtI bougut redacted regiment because I am a super shekel slut
>>564105432The only niche it has left is poking Hulks in the eye, utility options have it beat, and other high power pistols like the Talon or Verdict perform way better in the role of an actual secondaryI guess it's still better than the Peacemaker and maybe the Redeemer, but that's not a high bar to clear
>>564102893I go by stix5000 but am not as active anymore
Why did no one tell me to get Master of Ceremony as my first warbond? I would've already done all my ship modules with all the extra samples.
>>564106047If you want to stealth dive, Redacted Regiment is a sleeper bond. It's not flashy or exciting, but the armor sets, the Censor and the C4 are all great. The Censor I'd argue is a bot-exclusive gun, but it dominates there.Chemical Agents for the stink grenades and brap dog, both are nutty against Mindless Masses and Predator Strain bugs.
>>564106760very gay portfolio but thanks for your contribution
>>564102531>stabby light pen rifle that low>flag that low
>>564106910>>stabby light pen rifle that low/hdg/ hates light penthis is an ap3 assault rifle center-mass magdump/eruptor territory
>>564081916>Absolute baby modeThis retarded playerbase is going to lose it cause we simply cannot do two defenses at the same time
IT IS WITH A HEAVY HEART THAT I WILL CLOSE MY OPERATION ON CYBERSTANi cant farm otherwise1 less holding the front
Is Arrowhead scared to make Chemical Agents too good or something? If the Sterilizer got buffed in a meaningful way (alt cone spread fire mode, acid debuff, longer range on the stream fire mode) the entire bond would be easy A tier, maybe even S tier when you consider the Dog Breath and Gas Grenades.
>>564106765>diligence sidegrade >neat but ultimate not THAT good grenade>>>>>melee>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>flagGee I wonder why?
>>564107895>all this extra shitNo, all the Sterilizer needs is lingering gas clouds. Acid debuff can be its own entire debuff with an entire line of grenades, stratagems and support weapons.It also doesn't detract from the fact that Advanced Filtration is still one of the most worthless armor perks in the game. Gas does ridiculously little damage to the point where any of the auxiliary armor sets with gas resist do the job well enough. And only players are able to inflict gas status, so as long as you're careful about where you place your gas, the armor perk may never even come into play.
>want to bring FRV to squid megacity>"uh you can't actually">squid lasers fire on the FRV from 6 different directionsSweden must be punished.
>>564108614Lingering gas clouds doesn't fix any of its problems>Stand still and create gas clouds>Or throw a gas grenade and achieve the same thing
>>564108089Fag
Today I will use the belt fed grenade launcher
10 days left for the new warbond and they haven't even dropped the trailer
>>564108991
>>564108808The Sterilizer's whole problem is that it can't inflict gas at anywhere near the same range that Gas Dog and Gas Grenade can. Lingering clouds would literally be the best solution because you can create a gas wall that stops enemies more effectively than any flamethrower, and not have to constantly be within melee range to do so.It would also free up the grenade slot for something more useful, which is the entire point of several primary, secondary and support weapons.
>>564109080Because it's dropping this Tuesday at roughly 1pm BST, and the Warbond will be releasing on the 28th. 42 days after Entrenched Division, which has been the looping pattern for months now.
>>564109129On bugs todayAlready did my squid time(Recoiless was enough)
>>564108736squid cities are the biggest joke in the entire game
>>564109372Didn't the roadmap say april?
>>564109573anon...
>>564108089I actually love the sword&the spear(flag).
>>564109573Is the 28th not in April or something?
>>564109256This unironically. If they make the Sterilizer create lingering toxic gas clouds i'll be taking it all the time against bugs.
Taught my lil bro how to kill his first Bile Titan with eagles and EATs
gas primary when?orbital gas barrage when?the maximum braps build can have gas in every slot except primary and while it can technically have a gas stratagem in all 4 slots you need to double up with the sterilizer and speargun
>>564112302>and while it can technically have a gas stratagem in all 4 slots you need to double up with the sterilizer and speargun???speargun/sterilizerdog breathgas mortargas strike
>>564112302the warbond after this one unless they want to cram the solvent in as a pdw for mecha crews
>>564112551I forgot about the gas mortar my bad
>>564112302Isn't the upcoming SMG apparently gas-based?
>>564112302There's no reason at all for a Gas Barrage stratagem, since there would be a bunch of overlap on the gas clouds created by the impacts. Gas Mines would do the exact same thing.
>>564059073>>564058963It's possible, just that its being heavily gatekept to prevent Swigger apologists from reporting it. If you know you know
>>564112551and gas mines
>>564112302Not before eagle brap strike.
>>564113097yeah bro lmao
>>564090003>Is this worth getting?>I've not used eagle strats much besides strafing run and 500kgyou get one more 500kg with the upgrade, so 3 uses vs 2 iirc
>>564113439500kg is one use base, 2 with upgrades
>>564071283Just get a good primary or support to kill them. Grenade Pistol is way too useful on squids from blowing up dropships to killing those tesla towers that are 100% immune to everything but explosive demo force.
>>564090886I used to think the same way because that's how airstrikes with a limited use worked in hd1
>>564093928they do that because the alternatives aren't fun or don't matter
>>564112302>gas strike>gas mortar>gas dog>gas spear>gas mines You don't need sterilizer.
Get a little chub imagining the Pacifier with a 60 round mag.
>>564113439That's the Expanded Weapons Bay upgrade, anon. This is the upgrade that makes multi-bomb attacks like Cluster and Airstrike drop one extra bomb per attack.
>>564054641re-introduce mechanics like bleedout and dogs from HD1
>>564069090Why does he look like that
some rando just gave me free super creds lmao
>>564113439It's not the module that adds an extra use per rearm to each eagle strat, it's the one that adds an extra projectile to each use of strike/napalm strike/cluster bomb/gas strike, so it doesn't affect strafing run or 500kg at all.
>>564114475I also forgot about the gas mines..I almost never bring a green that isn't the three emplacements for bricks missions
it's so over....
>>564112218bro, your melee dodge?bro, your salad?
Thoughts on a giga support sniper that you have to be prone to fire safely?
>>564116375what can it do where the Railgun can't?
>>564116375sniper weapons are pointless in this game, practically every engagement takes place under 50 meters
>>564102780loyalist can be shot uncharged for no splash dmg point blank. it's the purifier in pistol form
>>564116467not explode youhas a scopedoes commando tier damage without needing a 3 second charge up
>>564116375People will say >What is the point its just a railgun/RRAnd I will say who gives a shit 99.99% of stuff in HD2 is cosmetic differences anyway and you're just as capable with a Lib and RR/AC as you are with anything else. Give the people their cosmetic fantasies of a fuckhuge single shot rifle that one taps anything like a RR can but at greater ranges.
>>564116375I personally think something like that would be fine as a primary because it'd have so many downsides to balance it out.>Ragdolls you like the Varianle on full blast unless you're completely prone>Slow af fire rate>Slow af reload>Abysmal ergo>5 round magazine>Like 4 mags in reserve>But it's AP4 with like 800 damage per shot
>>564105573I had just been defrosted, gimme a break
>>564116375I'd rather a bolt action heavy pen primary desu
>>564116375You mean a Solothurn? I would use it even if it had an ammo backpack and a 5 round magazine that required stationary reload.
>>564116695eruptor.tiff
>>564116467No charge time and can punch through mobs>>564116479Could have a spooky nigga running overwatch with it
>>564116695>>564116592Kino
>>564106760og anon herethanks
>>564116695>athat's the eruptor
>>564116375Why yes, I also want pic related in the game
>>564116479>practically every engagement takes place under 50 metersThere comes a point when you stop being a minmax fag and embrace just playing for fun, you'll get there eventually.
>>564116695like M95 from bad company 2 would be amazing
>>564116789>No charge time and can punch through mobsthe Harpoon gun can already do that and with gas damage on top
>>564116852Eruptor is an AoE weapon, they're suggesting a single target only weapon which is heavy pen.
>>564106765I do but every time I get drowned out by faggots going>HURR worse diligence??because they have some irrational hateboner for the amendment.
>>564106797Most of those are not secondaries
>>564116789>Could have a spooky nigga running overwatch with it>spookystealth archer sniperfags are endearing lmao
>>564116787>>564116852Not the same thing, it won't have explosive shrapnel, so the damage will come from the projectile itself.
>>564116956>can already do thatAn irrelevant consideration. Most additions are cosmetic anyway.
>>564116896anon, enemy patrols don't even spawn at the ranges you would get any use or enjoyment out of being a sniper. You would use it to shoot enemies standing in bases from across the map and then what? You'd just be using it at close range most of the time due to the way the game works. Try using the AMR as a sniper and you'll quickly realize you can't because enemies don't even spawn at long ranges and breaches/drops come in right on top of your head.
>>564112846it's going to be the pummler only inflicting gas confusion instead of stunif we're lucky it'll have a faster RoF because of the similarity between it and the knight's models>>564113083there's plenty of reason, larger area coveragegas mines like all mines are shit, and will remain so until they fix the invisible landmine desync issue and the enemies waltzing through minefields without detonating them issue
>>564117317>anon, enemy patrols don't even spawn at the ranges you would get any use or enjoyment out of being a sniper.Stopped reading. You haven't played HD2.
>>564113485>>564114739>>564114890my bad gang
>>564117317>Solofag
so basically you retards just want yet another LARP gun? The Autocannon is already in the game, the Railgun and AMR is already in the game and they're 100x better than your stupid "BEEG SNIPER RIFLE WITH BEEG BOOLET AND LOW ERGO THAT RAGDOLLS YOU FOR SOME FUCKING REASON". Literally no one would use that, this is yet another case of Maxigun vs MMG again, too many downsides for barely any improvement.
>>564116987What?
>>564116375>25mm APHE round>1100 normal, 880 durable damage (80% ratio, same as the AC's APHE)>AP5>1100m/s velocity, standard 30% drag>single shot>12 reserve rounds>1.25 second reload time (48 RPM)>0 ergonomics>comes with 10x scope>if not prone while firing does enough self damage to do a third of your HP bar and breaks your right armI'd use it. If you think the damage is low don't worry, a full ammo count can kill as many bile titans, behemoths, and war striders as the recoilless can while still being more efficient against the smaller heavies or with more specific weakpoint targetting.
>>564117645go up the reply chain
>>564117849Okay, the sidearm thing felt like a complete fluff part not really demanding anything.I guess Borderline Justice for the Talon.
>>564117573Wah wah wah cry fucking more retard.
>>564117573>so basically you retards just want yet another LARP gunIts a coop PvE game with a skill ceiling on the floor. No one cares.
>>564117573I feel like an anti-tank sniper rifle firing rounds that can actually punch through tanks, and not the meme Soviet rifle from 70 years ago, would in fact put you in the fucking dirt if you fired it standing up. The round mass would be monumental.
>>564118508yo mama so fat her round mass is monumental
>>564116756Ooh baby.
>>564118508>would in fact put you in the fucking dirt if you fired it standing up>did this with a .50 cal >it was fine>did this with a .300>nearly ate dirtTurns out if a gun is heavy, its recoil ain't that bad. And if its a light weight .300 its a painful bitch.
>>564117645I was asking which aidearms were better and you (reasonably) misunderstood and thought that I was talking about the first paragraph, but I was talking about the second so it was funny misunderstanding
>>564118508Again, supremely retarded when the Railgun already exists and can do all that with hitscan projectile on top without some retarded gimmick that fucks over the player.>>564116756You just described the Autocannon but with 5 rounds mag
>>564107895good gas would kinda be bullshittheres a reason its called the warcrime loadout
>>564119035>the Railgun already exists without some retarded gimmick that fucks over the player.... you do know the railgun can explode and kill the user, right?
>>564119035Cool, both of those are lame. I want a big meaty anti-tank rifle.
Just put a not dogshit scope on the railgun already you stupid swedish FUCKS
>>564119174skissue
>>564107895>Is Arrowhead scared to make Chemical Agents too good or something?If you haven't played HD1 you do not know how mind broken Arrowhead is from gas. There wasn't a meta, there was gas, and only gas.
>>564107895https://helldivers.wiki.gg/wiki/Helldivers_1:TOX-13_Avengernuff said
>>564119174... you do know you have to purposefully try and make that happen, right?
>>564119174The Railgun can already punch through tank armor in Safe mode, the only reason to switch to Unsafe mode is when you want to 1 shot a War Strider. What I'm trying to say is, it's optional to fuck yourself up, unlike getting ragdolled every time you shoot the damn gun, a gimmick that you can't control
>>564119410the rumbler wasn't strong because of gas, it was strong because it was essentially an indirect fire RR that had a 3 shot burst
>>564119567>unlike getting ragdolled every time you shoot the damn gun,just prone idiot
>>564118508If it was like ap5 1650 ballistic and durable I'd use it.
>Gas now lingers >Its a slow DoT which never stops >reduces armor class Is it perfect? No, but at least gas now has a more consistent long term purpose which is to whittle down enemies and make them easier to tackle.
Would acid status weapons and stratagems be op or shit?
>>564119721It was both.
>>564119567>The Railgun can already punch through tank armor in Safe mode,And take most of its ammo to actually kill. If you want to kill anything bigger than a gunship or hulk eye efficiently you need to be in unsafe mode and often push it to 85, 90% charge at minimum to get the best breakpoints depending on the target.
>>564119863It would be a nice addition, making certain guns like the Maxigun viable on bot.
>>564119863OP. The balance between light/medium/heavy already leans pretty heavily towards light/medium, acid would make heavy pen redundant.
>Watching my third Thermite in a row bounce off the Squid spawnerI'm done with this fucking piece of shit.
>>564120058>making certain guns like the Maxigun viable on bot.Not everything needs to be viable on all fronts, Maxi has its place on Squids and somewhat on bugs.
>>564120115depends on how accessible and widespread the acid effect would be.if it only existed on the re-educator and/or the sterlizer it would be fine since those are both limited in their application
>>564119863Shifting all armor values down by one like the acid rain effect? Yes that would absolutely trivialize most of the game. You'd be able to flatten the entire bot roster with any lightpen gun after hitting them with the acid debuff.
>>564120195>Not everything needs to be viable on all frontscope and not even a good one
>>564119863OP, it'd be all anyone takes, which is why I'm against the idea. The sterilizer simply needs to be made less shit, like being the only way to apply gas to superheavies like BTs, or have its gas inflict a unique slow that can't be resisted, or have its ranged increased. I'd say changing it so that it leaves linger clouds would work, but then it'd run into the same issue as flamethrowers where enemies ignore groundfires due to either hostbugs taking effect, or the puddles clipping under the floor and the enemies are able to walk over them
>>564120350Literally has never been true from launch or from HD1. An absolutely retarded take.
>>564120195And that's is why we need Acid stratagems so damn bad, plus bringing a whole ass stratagem just so your support weapon can work isn't OP at all
>>564120350I guess the recoilless rifle is actually shit because it's not very good for the squid front
>>564120195good point
What about a uh sniper tower sentry that sits on a high platform with an AMR? The base can still be destroyed by mobs
>>564120447It's not "just your support weapon" though, it affects everything. Acid as a player-inflictable debuff is essentially sacrificing one stratagem slot to give literally everything else in the game a +1 to armor pen. That's incomprehensibly huge.
>>564120691I would rather a SEAF sniper team with jetpacks which you can command to move to spots
>>564120712depends entirely on how long it lasts and how hard it is to apply that effect.remember, stun completely turns off any enemy that isn't a super-heavy and yet stun isn't this super OP thing that trivializes the game
>>564120712And the original vision from the developer themselves was "Your guns is supposed to be shit and useless, that is when the stratagems comes in to mitigate that issue"
GIVE ME ONE REASON THE JAR 5 ISNT AP4?
>>564121235because it would be too effectively against heavies if it was
>>564120712Slag meta from BL2...Viral meta in Warframe...
>>564121284not true its janky as shit with the rocket rounds
wow it's almost like people use cc in horde shooters
>>564121373it'll click with you once you have more than 60 hours in the game
>>564120691Frankly there's not enough emplacements in this game. A sniper tower emplacement where a hellpod lands, and a scaffold framework telescopes out of it with a climbable ladder would be sick.
>>564121434go away pcfat
>>564120712the stratagems are this game cheat codes, they exist to solve problems, caring about muh balancing when it isn't a support weapon is stupid and completely missing the point
>>564120959because it's generally just as easy to kill things than it is to apply stun. if stun were easier to apply, it'd be worth taking, but it's not, so why bother stunning something you can kill instead?>>564120983it's pretty clear the devs are retarded, so idk why you're appealing to their authority>>564121328this. at the end of the day it'd be mandatory in at least one of your slots (probably a grenade at some point), and further content would be balanced around everyone running it>>564121576this entire post is retarded for reasons that are self evident
>>564121576No no no bro you don't understand, a 380mm shell fired from space shouldn't powercreep the Liberator!
samefagging doesn't give your shit idea credence
>>564121967>this entire post is retarded for reasons that are self evidentyou are the retarded one here, Arrowhead only go full autism when it comes to balancing primary and support weapons, everything else is supposed to be overpowered, that's literally the foundation this game were built upon.
surprised there's any metawhiners left I thought they all roped by now
>>564122634Metawhiners are an important part of an ecosystem to keep shitposting up and generals alive
>>564122503i'm not, which is why everyone here thinks you're the retard. acid will never be a stratagem
>>564121452>Frankly there's not enough emplacements in this gameStill waiting on mines to get buffed by giving them multiple charges like Eagles have. Why we only get 1 on a cooldown is beyond me.
>>564121452That'd be neat for sniper/stealthdiving, and it'd be a good power booster for the Solo Silo in regards to LOS on the targeter.
>>564122721ah so you're just baiting, I see
>>564121967>because it's generally just as easy to kill things than it is to apply stun.yes exactly my point. acid won't be this all encompassing must-take thing if the ways to apply it are appropriately limited. Imagine if an acid version of the re-educator is the only way to do it; it only applies to a single target, the ammo is limited, it competes for a useful utility slot, and hell it might not even be strong enough to instantly apply to heavier targets with a single shot making its limited ammo even more limited. It will be a nice supplement to certain builds but it won't replace anything, especially considering right now there already exists plenty of builds that don't need acid to kill lots of shit real fast.
>>564122703sleep tight lil homie
>>564122721You are and everyone who is a day 1 player can tell you are retarded. Acid will be added in the near future, no reason not to when we already have fire, gas, stun and electrical.
>>564122703>me every fucking Tuesday when there's still no content
>>564123036Custom vehicles soon
>Iz zat a helldiver on top of me?>Doomp eet.
>>564123036sex update soon
>>564123021>things that aren't happening
>NOW YOU CAN'T HAVE TOO MUCH FUNDo balaceniggers really? Should I remind them this isn't a PvP game?
>>564123291>he isn't having sex with his vehicles/mechsWhat are you gay?
>>564120169I take the sweeper and speargun, one magazine of the sweper breaks the shield in a tiny amount of time and then I can shoot into the door woth the speargun to blow it up
>>564123492do you think a gun that shoots leveler shots at 600rpm would make the game better just because it's PvE? if you say yes you're only confirming you're wrong.just because it's not a PvP game doesn't mean there shouldn't be a semblance of balance.
>>564123491Promise me you will livestream your suicide when that do indeed happen, time is on my side
>>564123696the "gun that shoots hellbombs" bit is overplayed homie
>>564123492>Do balaceniggers really?What annoys me is how people think HD2 has S/A/B/C/D/F tier stuff when in reality its just A/B/C and even the C stuff is fine. Its a really well balanced game and when I go back to EDF I want to vomit at how dogshit the balance is.
>>564122721you're just being sillythey will add it because they're creatively bankruptthey're just coasting on ideas from hd1 with very little innovationan educated guess of mine is that they'll add it as the game will near end of service so they won't have to bother with rebalancing it in case it completely breaks the game
>>564124143Sterilizer is fine, got it
>>564124143>Liberator Concussive
>>564124143>pummeler>flag>pineapples
>>564123291bring back sex
>>564124210It is fine, its dogshit but its fine. Bring it on bugs, you'll have entire hordes fuck around doing nothing. Its just boring and shit to do vs a flamer that obliterates them instead. It needs a serious buff but it isn't F-- like /hdg/ pretends. >>564124323Great vs predator strain >>564124440>Predator strain >Has a taunt now >Genuinely not that bad, especially since you can AoE around yourself and be safe.
>>564123696That would be balanced, unironically, if it had limited ammo and 1 time use. I mean fuck, the Orbital Laser exists, the Railcannon exists, they are both Get Out of Jail free cards. Adding a full auto Leveller wouldn't be that outrageous lmao, also I should remind you the Commando already mogs the living shit out of the EAT, you basically carry 2 EATs on your back in 1 package, you can control the rockets and you don't have to care about the bullet drop.
>>564124512l-lewd
>>564124561>sterilizer is fine, dogshit but finegenuinely stupid take. You can't look at these things in a vacuum, you have to compare them to the rest of your choices. Opportunity cost and all that. I do agree libconc is better than people give it credit for though.
>>564124995>You can't look at these things in a vacuumI am, your emotional outburst is the only irrelevance here.
>>564124512last one I killed didn't have a donk, is it too late to get a refund?
Don't even know why I bother replying to the retards in this thread with good faith responses any more, just keep playing your slop instead of wanting it to be better then
>>564124995Sterilizer is a rusted on meme and not nearly as bad as people pretend. >Doesn't take up a backpack slot>Never has ammo issues because you only need to tap fire>Opens up weak points for easy exploiting >Two of three factions are melee range so the range issue is irrelevant>Completely fucks up enemy AI without lingering on the ground like fire which can be just as much of a detriment to your team as the enemy
>>564125383>replying in good faith >on 4chanhow new
>>564125383>good faithYou're a retard, you wouldn't know a good argument if it hit you in the face.
>>564125617just because you and all the other tourists come here to fling shit at one another like retarded monkeys instead of having an actual discussion doesn't mean I have to
>>564125793>instead of having an actual discussion doesn't mean I have to>WAH WAH THIS THING I NO LIKE NO GOOD!>Actually its not that ba>NOOO REEE NOOOOOOOOORetard.
warbond news?
>>564126128Soon TM
>>564124561As someone who got the LibConc to 25 through the recent PredStrain MO, it is absolutely not good for that front. It was the most miserable experience I've ever had, it's all well and good knocking one Stalker back (not killing it without dumping 20+ slow as fuck ROF rounds into it) while I get molested from every angle.
>oh boy I can't wait to share my sincere opinion without a single veil of irony on 4channel
>>564126364>Lib C + Gun DogIts piss easy get good.
>>564126701>Lib KEKbine>not Lib COCKussive
>>564126364>while I get molested from every angle.Skill issue. Only gun in the game that can keep a horde off yourself, the team and all your turrets. Clearly you tried to use it as a DPS weapon instead of the single shot knockback king it is.
Warbond cancelled because of your atrocious performance on this easy as fuck squid MO
>>564126992lmao cry harder wagie
I had a dream involving sex with squids. What does it mean? Should I ask my democracy officer for advice?
>>564126364>use one of the few CC weapons in the game>be shocked at its lack of immediate DPS
>>564124561>Predpacifier's better, and other smgs can kill them faster than the stun if you're running a shield>tauntuseless dev wankery>Genuinely not that badyou genuinely don't play the game
>>564126992cry to the 30k+ bugshitters who never play anything else and never go anywhere
>>564127180>you're running a shield
Remove the gay ass blizzard and sandstorm, un fun bullshit
>>564124730thanks for confirming you're not only wrong, but also a dumbass
>>564127367why else would you run an smg? so you can shoot behind you while running away? use the stoker or the crisper
>>564127832>you're running a shield
>>564126701>Gun Dog doing the work while you pretend the LibConc is contributing as it's getting carriedJust pick a better fucking gun and kill more shit with your Gun Dog alongside you.
>>564127996no anon, I'm not. running a shield however would be the only reason you'd bring the pummeler over the pacifier, further cementing that the pummeler is a piece of shit
The voteless and especially mindless masses are way too boring. They really should lean more into the zombie body horror stuff and just go full resident evil mutation
>>564126776>LibConc>The only gun in the game that can keep a horde off youDo you play this game? The Punisher is vastly superior at the same role and it's considered mediocre.
>>564128083>you're running a shield
>>564128178mindbroken
>>564128031Hey anon you want to play on D7 you do you
I like running up to Alpha commanders and popping their heads with the double freedom. It's very funny.
>>564128134>can't read a full sentence >thinks the punisher can do the same thing Having to read your posts is punishing enough.
>>564128310You can actually gib them with the Volley mode
>STOP USING THINGS I DONT LIKE REEEEE: The threadGosh you people really need to go outside more
>>564128134trukie nukie
>>564128432Yeah I did that once by accident, instantly turned that sucker into picrel
>>564128325I did read your full sentence. Here, let me quote it in full>>564126776It's not the only gun that can do this, at all. The LibConc requires multiple rounds to connect before it starts staggering and requires the exact same <AP2 weak spot to start applying it, just like the Punisher, except the Punisher can keep the pressure up with good reload habits and actually deals decent damage on top.
>>564128619>gets so mad he can't even reply rightMaybe start with learning English then come back to an English image board.
We seriously doing Liberator Cuckcussive revisionism now and insisting its good?It hasn't even done anything to deserve this 180, unlike the Pacifier which can fucking stun Veracitors into submission.
>>564128619>Still can't read a full sentence The Punisher cannot keep entire hordes off yourself, turrets and players all at once. Hope this helps. >>564128718No its just one anon having a meltdown that people are able to work around limitations and still clear D10 while he flounders on D7 using meta picks.
>>564128686What are you even babbling about? I quoted your post pointing right to your claim. I'm not taking ESL accusations from someone suffering from dementia.
>>564128785>Somehow anon can shoot in every direction with the LibConc just fine but somehow can't do this with the PunisherSorry, I'm the one with the skill issue?
>>564128619>The LibConc requires multiple rounds to connect before it starts staggeringthat isnt how stagger works in this game, its not a status effect that has to build up like fire and stun
Libconc is only bad on squiggers since they're more spongy than average and oversaars seem to resist stunsBot and Bugs it's actually pretty fun pushing their chaff around with itAll it takes is good aim and they just stumble around like retards while you push through them
>>564128820>Repeats his mistake hoping to save face
>>564128785>I can clear D10 with shit weapons so that means the shit weapons are <something he hasn't even established> and that means I get to act smug when people call them shit
>its the pedo poster shitposting Every time
STOP FIGHTING and check out this sexy bug!
Illuminate are fucking annoying bring the warrant back to the superstore
>>564128897>SorryYou should be, think before you post next time.
>>564128619>The LibConc requires multiple rounds to connect before it starts staggeringyou do not know what you are talking about
>>564129116>Illums>Annoying>The only faction that is 100% countered by a medium weapon Come on anon
>>564129090>look at this bug!>it's a human woman in cosplay many such cases
>>564128619>The LibConc requires multiple rounds to connect before it starts staggering and requires the exact same <AP2 weak spot to start applying itlollmaofucking retard
so whenever you guys are done feeding (you)s to guccibait...anyone here ever give these objectively shitty loadouts a try?>they're not-wrong. take the penis out of your mouth.
Give it to me>b-but muh balanceI don't care just give it to me
>>564129460Yes and the game is as easy as it is with meta loadouts because 1. HD2 isn't hard2. The balance is extremely good compared to other coop games
>>564129624literally the scorcher and purifier
>>564129460I feel like the shams loadout could be a lot worse. I guess it depends on which bug variant is on oshaune tho. diggers would be a lil rough.
top kek
>>564129460I still can't believe they just never nutted up and did the challengeModern game dev is so buck broken and far removed from yknow>actually just playing your own game
>>564129460>"""objectively shit""">All the primaries are good>All good side arms, even a meta side arm>All using good grenades only 1 is using knives >Literally only three of the sixteen stratagems are bad Retard. Only Alexus actually tried and even there he fucked up by bringing a top tier primary.
>>564128951It's literally how stagger works since Arrowhead nerfed it into the ground. The LC and Pummeler no longer stagger on first hit.
>>564129885which is funny because he was literally the only one who showed any interest in participating. he's got good chaff clear with the eagle napalm and smg, and decent AT with the other choices. he'd kind be shit out of luck when they're on cooldown though. the grenade is somewhat ok for stalling a patrol, it's kinda like an EMS field grenade - it even unearths diggas
>>564130203Shhhh these dumb niggers will argue otherwise and then not articulate WHY the Pummeler got shafted because it contradicts them
>>564130297>>564130203D7 enjoys your service.
>>564130113>Only Alexus actually triedoh? take the penis out of your mouth btw
>>564129624give me the ak with explosive airburst rounds
>>564130397Literally only play D10, cope. This argument that you have to be bad to insist shit weapons are shit is some insane cope. Go stroke the Variable.
>>564129643>>564129624Bro, your scorcher?
>113
>>564130502D7 enjoys your service.
>>564130257the only one that's truly diabolically bad is the one assigned to alexus. the others have their weaknesses like a distinct lack of anti-heavy on all but shams but at least their loadouts actually can function with themselves. meanwhile alexus has a dickle with no flame resist but also has the stim pistol instead of some one else, plus the directional shield but no offensive one-handed weapon, no explosive options other than eagle 110's, and AP mines as the shit cherry on top... it's just got nothing going for it
>>564130415>hurrr imagine using bad build!>doesnt use a bad buildRetard.
>>564130297it got shafted because it uses stun and not staggerpummeler has 15 stagger force and stun effect value of 1.0what the fuck are you talking about
>>564129865>>564130537>fully automatic railgun is the same as a gun that shoots super heated plasmaAre you two being retarded on purpose?
>>564130203retarded bait or just retarded?
content?
>>564130701I enjoy your service stroking my shit.
>>564130758still waiting on proof of alexus trying and for you to take his kielbasa out of your mouth
I'm noticing a high volume of loo avoidance and a low volume of lobby posting
Bitches please.
>>564131047levelling this thing to 25 was the worst
>>564068242>be watcher on squidchans version of /i/>notice the last word in fellow squidanons' posts end halfway in a ->realize helldivers are probably killing squidanons while they're typing and add an - for them before pressing submit>don't want to be next, so call reinforcements to help stay alive>not because of swigger malicious coding>but literally 10/10 immersionfuel quality coding because why wouldn't you call for reinforcements early when all your fellow squidanons are dying?
Helldivers! The enemies of democracy are your foes, not each other! Save your righteous fury for the battlefield.
>>564130809The effect is the same: shots rip through armor and the visuals are extremely similar. Do you want the description and the model changed?
>>564130963>Reading comprehensionPfthahah shut the fuck up ESL
>>564129956NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THAT'S A CHEAT MOD!!!!!!!!! YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO LEARN THE PROJECTILE'S DROP FROM MISSING YOUR SHOT OVER AND OVER AGAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN!!!!! YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO AIM YOUR RECOILLESS RIFLE THROUGH A SCOPE THAT HAS A DOT AND TWO RINGS THAT DON'T SHOW WHAT THE RANGE ISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!
>>564131047Leveling this thing to 25 was fun. I wish at 25 you didn't lose weapon XP and could transfer it to other weapons so I could use it more.
>>564131123Is decent on appropriators
>>564130914D7 enjoys your service.
>>564131132BUT SOMEONE TOLD THE DEVS TO PLAY THEIR OWN GAME SO NOW I HAVE TO GET THEM FIRED TO PROTECT M'CORPORATION'S HONOR
>>564131123That's all right, it's got a bunch of flaws despite all its advantages. You did your best, no shame in that.
wtf is going on it's not even brown hours
If the Pummeler is stun medium, can it stun squid mechs when their shield is down?
>>564131123I got the most enjoyment out of it on bot city missions
>>564131229>People who have never used a real gun a day in their life making over-designed dogshit scopes Every time.
>>564131229You are not playing the game the way the developers intended with the use of mods, yes you are cheating and you suck ass at the game, be better I believe in you
>>564131165>Only Alexus actually triedwhat did alexus try? pulling out of your mouth? no wonder he failed, you got that gawk gawk 9000
>>564131357Yeah
>>564131268people keep saying this but it's terrible at killing overseers which is what your primary should be able to do on appropriators. I don't care that it can stun the mechs. That's not good enough.
the defender has stun
>>564131350America is a brown country, therefor it's technically brown hours
>>564131368yeah lol can't see shit cap'n, also>800 meters>in a game where you'll never shoot anything past 125m
>>564131357technically i suppose, but only on the ap2 partsso like the unbroken eye and the occipital vents
reddit saidreddit saidreddit uhmi cant think of any bad advice reddit said today
>>564129460The alexus build is specifically handcrafted to be as bullshit as posible, you cant kill anything with that thing.
>>564131551sure it does anon. In the better game of this series.
Paci is actually great at killing oversaars
Sometimes the Descalator rapes 3 squid mechs in rapid succession other times it takes 3 direct shots to kill a drone what gives
>>564131783you have to say the full legal name because it's not good enough to get a nickname
>>564130468based
>>564131731I wonder why :)>>564131808The arcs that come out are in a spread
>>564131896Well nobody likes him thats why.
>>564129956I like this one, it's a bit more immersive.https://www.nexusmods.com/helldivers2/mods/11195
>>564131368>People who have never used a real gun a day in their life making over-designed dogshit scopes https://www.scribd.com/document/141289305/M67-90mm-Recoilless-Rifle-Manualscroll to page 5>>564131615admittedly the worst sight for me to have picked, yeah. I do use one that has a 300 meter range but anything beyond that is mostly pointless
>>564130758Nigger the double edge sickle was selected so alexus health depleted every 5 seconds making his own armor kill him (when you are bellow 25% health the passive from the alexus build kills you to trigger the call of duty last chance mode) you also get no fire resistance and no extra health making the sickle anihilate you for using it, the only real gun alexus gets is the sterilizer and his knifes.
>>564131410>the game as the devs intended for the first ~year
>>564132341>epoch and reprimand furiously taking notes
>>564131368>obvious noguns trying to shit on hasgunswhy is it the people who have no fucking idea what they are talking about are also the people most confident in their idiocy?
>>564132589you're probably the same faggot who thinks it's impossible to hold a weapon steady while walking, so the sway in the game is realistic
>>564132887Stim withdrawal is serious business
>>564132948y'all got any more of them stims?
We're reaching levels of glazing never thought possible
>>564132887I remember it being much worse
>>564133180it was, it had 300 spread vs. 30 today. and 30 is still too much.
>>564132887https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/563364105/#563455109>grabbing some other anons webm made for purely scientific reasons to shitpost withreal faggot behaviour tonight
>>564132887nerf niggers will look at this and tell you to lower the difficulty
>>564133246one has to wonder how they initially settled on that value considering they don't test.
OK but can I get a different color scope for the quasar and laser cannon please. Yellow on yellow kinda sucks
You know how the ultimatum is easily the best secondary in the game? Well, what if we made every other secondary even worse?
>>564133270god forbid someone repost something here lol, and posted without comment btw
>>564132341devil's advocate, but only could argue the 'true' crosshair (the circle) kept moving slightly past where the scope crosshair was, due to shitty ergonomics
>>564133496
>>564133246looks fine to meit's also actually 30 down to 3, 300 is a misnomer
>>564133496The gun model in FPS/aim mode is the circle crosshair in 3rd person, you're seeing the drag from the ergo on the gun itself when you move your camera around.
>>564133332habibi, your third person?>>564133550marshalla don't look at me with them big ol eyes fuckboi
>>564133646
soon
>>564133496I can't help but notice the target is a rocket strider, but those weren't added to the game until the 6th of august 2024. the AMR had its scope misalignment fixed 3 months prior to that on may 7th 2024. There was, however, a very small window of time where all first person scopes weren't properly taking into account the effects of movement and ergonomics and would not accurately represent the true position of the muzzle
>>564133771Good catch! I actually meant to say 300 down to 30.
>>564133889that's literally what the post you were replying to said you fucking tard
>>564133815>cucked ate cannon arm instead of a bastion cannon armDOA, not even going to bother unlocking it.
>>564133918Good catch! I actually agreed that the spread looks fine to me.
>>564133815Cuckstion fags dead in a ditch SOON
>>564133971you say this like a mobile AT emplacement is a bad thing
>>564134028>Basedtion can tank multiple cannon shots from Vox Engine>Cuck mech can't survive 1 landminelmaooooooo
>>564133762I like to snipe with them so I scope
>>564134090no, I say it like 15 75mm ate rounds is an insult
>>564134028>use flamethrower>walk through the flame on the ground>mech gone
>>564134143At least mechchads can move and shoot freely without a gay boyfriend
>>564133971you have to be the single biggest shitter in this thread if you think an AT emplacement cannon isn't good enough
>>564121452>Tower that gives you somewhere in the range of 15-20 meters of height>Can snipe from it>Can get better angles of attack with weapons like the GL, BFGL and De-Escalator>Can get better shots with the Solo Silo>Can create height where non exists>Can use it with the jump pack to create large distance jumps>Enemies can destroy it and cause you to tumble like a sack of shit to the groundWould you, /hdg/?
>>564133841I don't know about that WEBM, but for the first few months of the game you had to aim with the top left corner of the scope's crosshair, and that only worked out to about 100m, anything beyond that would land even further from the center dot.
>>564129624That movie had cool stuff, shame it was open borders propaganda
>>564134449I mostly remember being incredibly angry that the fight scenes had such bad shaky cam that I couldn't tell what the fuck was happening
>>564131410
>>564134449>he says this while sitting on his rusty trailer parkYou will never be a billionaire bro, time to face reality
>>564134229oh shit where can I see the leaked stats?
>>564134413no, this is just retardedinstead give hoverpack an ability to descend on demand
>>564134413Make the stratagem a scissor-lift and then we'll talk.
>>564130203good bait
>>564134413>orbital cherrypickeryes, if only because it implies a forklift is coming soon>on his rustylmao it's always an esl
>>564134413Make it an AMR turret
Would it be OP if c4 and solo silo took your secondary slot instead
>>564134787>Limited time height with terrible ergo vs. fixed height with normal ergoScissor tower unironically more useful
>>564135120holy AIDS
>>564135179Wouldn't that be less powerful?
>>564135120So how does this end up working out? Everything spawns? Because that sounds like it would actually be pretty cool.>>564135305Do you not understand the crucial flaw that makes C4 and Solo Silo such terrible stratagems?
>>564135120this is worth about as much as a twitter screencap
>>564135120What the
>>564135354lol u mad
>>564135384>Do you not understand the crucial flaw that makes C4 and Solo Silo such terrible stratagems?You being shit at the game?
564134679You know billionaires got where they are by fucking over the working class with foreigner scab labor, right?>>564134413Sniping isn’t that fun when squiggers can tank multiple headshots from an anti material rifle
Uh oh retard fight
>>564135384I havent picked it up yet, just seen other people use it so I just like assumed that C4 was a grenadeWhy on earth is it a stratagem!?
>>564135354(Dead)kwab
>>564135120Does this mean stingrays will spawn but be friendly to us?
>>564135120>>564135384>Everything spawnsEverything except Stringrays. I seriously don't understand why they aren't in the Appropriators.
>>564135702>Sniping isn’t that fun when squiggers can tank multiple headshots from an anti material rifleoverseers can't
>>564135354top jej
>>564135715the detonator takes the place of your stratagem weapon, while the c4 takes the backpack. solo silo also takes your weapon slot. c4 is actually good enough even with this jank handicap to still be good, but it defeats the purpose of the solo silo which is to set it down somewhere and then call it in when you need it. But since it takes up the most important weapon slot in the game it's best to just call it in and use it right away.
>>564135120I was about to jump into the game
>>564135846>>564135824I have a sneaking suspicion its because AH completely broke air units and gave up trying to add it. This is why gunship/shrieker patrols stopped existing for months now.
>>564136072while testing shit solo on low difficulty bots I actually saw gunships patrols
>>564135702what squiggers are surviving AMR headshots? cuz it ain't overseers
>>564136418Vox Engines
>>564118901Arrowhead has unfortunately not applied this piece of realism to the game as it would benefit us for most weapons
>>564136453
>>564135384>>564135824>>564135846I just tried a mission in pubs and it seems to be just normal Mindless Masses but with slightly more elevated overseers. No squidmechs at all.
>the sped is still seething about the modjesus christ
>>564135908I don't follow.
>>564136574urgh, non canon anime cringe
>>564136831Its Gucci nigger retard. Just ignore
>>564136694>Mindless masses removes dealing with the most cancerous overseer variant>This double subfaction not only adds them back, but doesn't add what makes the appropriators unique and just turns it into a more cancerous regular illuminateFucking swiggers man
>>564136874you can't say that bruv he's gonna tattle on you
>>564137013more variety is good. If they had two subfactions for some faction, I'd like it if they had all 4 combinations available: no subfactions, first subfaction only, second subfaction only, and then both subfactions.they have enough worlds to do it.
>>564137013>most cancerous overseer variantYou mean leviathans?But yeah, I understand your frustration. It's basically just turning the zombie faction back to normal. What are the odds it was unintentional?
>>564136874holy fuck he's still here getting raped? actually mentally ill.
>>564135846LIAR
>>564137624>D6
>>564137838I like 6-7Haha6 7
Assuming we are going with the logic that every item that comes out needs to fill a role what items are missing in your opinion?>Some kind of gas based primary, maybe an assault rifle with underbarrel gas nade launcher (alongside a gas buff)
>>564132341the rocket strider turned it's head at the last moment just like orange man
>>564137459he's been quiet for a couple of days now instead of going on multi hour marathon spergouts
>>564137938fire gl
Will we ever see another red stratagem added to the game? What will it be?
>>564137938Full auto support weapon shotgun with big damage mag and fire rate
>>564138339>orbital FRV strike
>>564137904is 6 7 some shitty zoomer meme or something?
>>564137838I like 6 and 7 because it has like calm times inbetween action, 10 is fun but I don't really feel like there's much downtime
>>564138501
>>564138516it's a meme for literal toddlers and middle school children, so whatever they're calling the generation younger than zoomers
>>564138516Yah
Post new subfaction ideas>Bugs get The Brood, a swarm faction with the unique brood mother unit that spawns extra bugs on death. It loses a few of the heavy armor units>Bots get corrupters, imagine the Tau water caste. They're sneaking on to human worlds to recruit willing people. On planets where they're spotted you're free to kill civs because there's a good chance they're suicide bombers or worse>No idea for squids
What will the expandable MG be like? It should have at least 200 rounds of heavy pen to be worth it I think.
>>564137938Something with a flare functionality that lights up dark areas.A ranged secondary that can inflict Arc/Stun.A way to set mines that isn't the fortification stratagems or C4.A 40 demolition force primary that gives us an additional way to kill Bile Titan holes and blow up walls and gates.A throwable/low-cooldown stratagem that creates physical obstructions to block the movements of enemies.Melee weapons in the primary weapon slot, not as strong as support weapon melees but definitely stronger than secondary weapon melees..The entire Acid status line of weapons and stratagems that lets us inflict the acid rain effect on enemies.
>>564138769>>No idea for squidsI've got one for you. How about this techno-religious group that does tricky things like telekinesis, teleporting and spawning barriers around you. They could even invert your controls maybe.
>>564138756Its Gen A, why do you think zoomers were called Gen Z
>>564139073gen 6 7 niggas can't fucking read because they too busy clickin on they ipads fr fr famalam
>>564138093That fucking retarded jeet is celebrating "Akshaya Tritiya" holiday right now.
>>564138854>A throwable/low-cooldown stratagem that creates physical obstructions to block the movements of enemies.Two ideas came to mind, barbed wire that causes pathfinding to freak out or something based off Worm's (if you don't know don't ask) containment foam
>>564138816It was 400 rounds of caseless ammunition fired at a extremely high firerate think MG-42 in HD1. The boring and most realistic answer is that its just going to be light pen because Swiggers hate med/heavy pen alongside their nerftranny orbiters
>>564133496i disagree, i say its the sway debuff you get when you use stamina
>>564139206him being this quiet is actually unprecedented so i am inclined to believe you
>>564139182Why is it called clicking a link anyway? You tap it, it doesn't make a clicking sound
>>564139467Back in my day we used to use these devices called a "mouse" that made a clicky noise when you pressed them to navigate the web
>>564135237you use hoverpack to climb on top of stuff
>>56413881680 to 90 damagemedium pen200 to 300 roundsno more than 15 ergolikely 2 minute cooldownlow chance it might even have a volley mode like variable, but definitely no total mode
>>564140016Nahhh that's actually crazy mn
>>564140016Lol
>>564141234>1000rpm>med pen>200 rounds>you can't stop firing it once you start firing it>modes are continuous or total>total breaks your arm
>>564141646>total fire>gibs heavy unitsthey would never be so utterly based yet i still hold our hope
>>564138816Stat-wise it's definitely going to be weaker than the HMG Emplacement, but maybe on a similar cooldown. It also can't step too much on the MG-43's toes, so either it's going to have a murderous cooldown or have weaker DPS. I'm imagining something like:>120/25 AP3 damage per round, less than the HMG but more than the Tenderizer>static 800 RPM, resulting in 1600 AP3 DPS which is slightly higher than the MG-43>150 round magazine, so less capacity than the MG-43>120-90 second cooldown, calldown contains two expendable machine guns so in an optimal situation you have 450 rounds at your disposal>around 30-40 ergo, but also maybe an unpacking delay like the EAT only when taking it out of the hellpod
spear and commando icons look way too similar
>>564138516
>>564142968>railcannon and gatling orb>110 and airstrike eagles
>>564138816the expendable MG is going to be a disposable stalwart with low ergo but a high RoF
>>564142968sometimes I mix up the ballistic shield and supply pack since they both have a bullet icon
I'm so fucking horny...
would the energy shield not be better if it were always active like the bubble shield? it worked like that in hd1, and had its niche as a stronger but less covering personal defense utility
>When the robutt starts getting uppity
>>564142968When are the devs adding loadout presets holy shit man. I accidentally brought out the recoiless instead of EAT the other day because they looked the same and are close proximity to each other in the list.>>564143382Calm the fuck down and do the objective, anon.
>>564143382sometimes i wish i was under ohdoughs desk sucking him off while he runs from alpha warriors
>med pen expendable MG Literally nobody, I mean absolutely nobody would use that shit outside maybe D5. Same reason you never see anyone bring the MMG to D10, make it heavy pen so it can at least have a reason to exist.
>>564143785Really it would just need a high durable damage to have a niche even with med pen.
bait
A master of baiting, one might say. Suppose hes sort of a.... master angler.
>>564143785on bot, sure, I'd imagine it would be nice on bug and squid though depending on the cooldown time, 2 minutes like the Leveller is acceptable.
I like to jack off!
fkin preverts in my thread again
>>564144179>tfw you're only postverted
>>564142809>>around 30-40 ergoeven the MG-43 only has 15 ergo
super earth would fuck up the naruto world
Okay what the fuck are they doing on Hesoi Prime it's just normal illuminate there isn't any discernable difference. Theres no mechs and it's the normal amount of voteless for standard squids. They must have mislabeled it somehow.
dude FUCK these arc towers. just forces you to bring explosives everytime. nigger devs.
>>564144761You didn't bring grenades?
>>564143312sometimes I mix up the ballistic shield and the guard dog
>>564144805I don't want to bring the same fucking frag/thermite every mission man. shit is so boring.
>>564144761you need anything with 30 demo force or moreautocannon, grenade launcher, epoch, wasp, all eagles or orbitals, AC exosuit, anything you'd use on a fabricator or bug hole or warp ship basically
>>564144761I remember when they added the laser balls and thought "oh cool they replaced those dogshit tesla towers with something more thematic and interactive" only to immediately get zapped by a Squid tesla tower when I turned a corner.
>>564144761It is pretty bullshit that they don't even take damage from anything but explosions.
>>564143525If you want constant active protection like the bubble shield, then bring the bubble shield.>>56414435630 ergo is the minimum value for tolerable. Presumably, an expendable MG wouldn't have all the bulky moving parts needed to make it a viable long-term weapon, it just needs to hold it together long enough for you to empty its magazine. Which could on paper make it more lightweight and thus less of a bitch to bring around and point at targets.>>564144761You know what else you need explosives for? Opening cargo containers and blowing up Warp Ships.
>>564135120>literally not a single appropriator
>>564144761crush them with hellpods? t.EATlord
>>564145415>If you want constant active protection like the bubble shield, then bring the bubble shield.I'm brainstorming out loud on how to make the energy shield not useless like it currently is
>>564145425Must have been a misclick made by an intern.
is the sample scanner booster from masters of ceremony worth it for new players?
>>564145415the MGX-42 is a metal storm style weapon with a dozen separate barrels plus a huge housing. it's going to be front heavy as fuck and unlike the normal MG carries the weight of all of its ammo in addition to having so many extra barrels. just like the variable the ergonomics are not going to be great.
>>564145880Please have a total fire mode.
>>564145814Heard it barely drops like 1 common
>>564145814It helps, but the chances are so low that you'd probably be better off just taking a booster that'll make it easier to finish missions and extract alive. I rarely got any super samples from it back when I ran it.
RIP
>>564145880The only way I'd ever even consider this thing within the context of HD2 is if it had a lock-on like the Warrant.
>>564145656Giving the player turtle protection like the Ballistic Shield doesn't sound like a very good solution, especially since it does nothing to improve its niche of being able to protect teammates. What it actually needs is the ability to reasonably resist explosive ordnance, and maybe a bit of side-directional protection. So, maybe increase its curvature a bit so that it's less of a flat wall, and allow it to eat a few rocket projectiles before it ragdolls the wielder. Now you can more easily stand as a protective shield for teammates.>>564145814Honestly, as much as the warbond has improved over time, I will still never forgive it for the One True Flag. A 15% increased chance for samples only really starts making a difference when you play at D10 and map sample count is something like 40/40/7. At lower difficulties, the occasional chance to get double samples doesn't mean much when there's a grand total of 20 Common and 5 Rare samples per mission.As it currently stands, its only actual use is for sample MOs.
>>564145814yes15% is 15%
>>564146009If you want Commons, then get Borderline Justice and Sample Extricator instead.
>Squidmech drop>Seizure inducing flashing lights engulf the screenVery cool, Sweden.
>>564146154They sucked his brains out!
>>564146361that thing is such a piece of shit lol what a piece of troll advice
>>564058518cities are more tighly packed, which means>you have less room to run away and are sometimes forced to engage instead of running away in a big open field>since there are so many buildings and walls, most of the time you only see the enemy for the first time when it is already really close to you instead of 200 meters away in an open fieldI think these 2 factors create the illussion that cities are "harder".
>>564144865Pyrotech kills them no issue.
>>564146238>>564146227>>564146130>>564146009Thanks, I think I'll get some other warbond like control group or redacted
>>564138567>he doesn't experience downtimes on D10Either skill issue or shit team issue or both.
Cuck chair support
>>564135120How is this possible.When modding lobbies when you force it to have appropriators then it becomes IMPOSSIBLE to spawn voteless, it is like it is hardcoded to never spawn voteless.
>>564147479because its not really a combination of the two sub-factions like fire-cyborgs, its just normal squids.
>>564147095Probably the first one mainly? Idk
thread doko
>>564147898sorry, I dokod all the threads and lobbies :(
>modifier for planets exists that gives the railgun a 90% reduced cooldown timewhat did swiggers mean by this?
im burnt out on playing until the next 'bondany good tubers to watch play the game?
>>564148193newfag retard
>>564148193that's for the orbital railcannon, not railgun. there was some stupid MO that required you to kill regular bot troopers (yes, regular troopers and not devastators or bersekkers) with the railcannon.
New>>564148303>>564148303>>564148303
>>564148235Baron of something
>>564144761>not even allowed to bring the humble frag grenade because it doesn't have enough demo forceI loathe swiggers.
