Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!/sthg/ #9255 - Cream's Dad Edition==NEWS==>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversaryhttps://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027https://x.com/SonicMovie==Comic Release Dates==Sonic the Hedgehog #86 - 22 April 2026DC x Sonic the Hedgehog: Metal Legion #1 - 06 May 2026DC x Sonic the Hedgehog: Metal Legion #2 - 03 June 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #87 - 10 June 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #88 - 24 June 2026Sonic the Hedgehog x Godzilla #1 - Summer 2026Sonic the Hedgehog: 35th Anniversary Special - 15 December 2026==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==https://rentry.org/sthglinks>Milestone pastebin:https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet>Perfect System Collection:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection>Sonic comic scans:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics>Sonic shows:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows>SAGEhttps://sagexpo.org/>SHChttps://shc.zone/>#10000 Projecthttps://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4r>/sthg/ booru:https://sthg.booru.org/>/sthg/ CyTube:https://cytube/r/sthg>/sthg/ Pixel World:https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthgIDW Sonic issue #86: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVNAHe1ZjPcPrevious Zone: >>564243637
>>564253665Surge hasn't been redeemed. She's always tried to be a better hero than Sonic and Ian doesn't want her to get redeened.
Douge
Opposite Sonic
>>564304130 "Societies" are evolving to the point the elite of child-raping billionaires want to turn every possible labour processes done by AI so they can finally replace the working class and kill all poor peopleSonic says
>what makes me better than (You)?>modularity
>>564304559if I was in charge i'd make classic Sonic a sub brand that takes place in an alt dimension where everyone is smaller. Sonic but chibi. and give everyone a chibi design. and go on chibi shounen adventures. I wouldn't do that crap they have been trying to do since sonic generations. this idea does exist but it manifested as "sonic and friends" which is just slop for babby and not something that is unironically fun to consume by whatever age group you are
>Cream and Blaze's creator finally talking with fans about the ideas behind the characters after years of silence.>That one Silvazefag:
>>564302786It’s only 2 dates and the one Sonic promised to go on in Unleashed was foiled by the fact he got transported to the world of King Arthur. Sonic needs to make it up to Amy. A date in a Sonic Channel story isn’t enough. There should be ones in the games, preferably open world ones, and in the comics as well.
i only request ocs and I will NEVER pay for art. art is worthless. now draw my oc or you are a nigger
>>564304875Woefag... dfwnn... cigsfag....
>>564304196Even TailsTube shows her still being antagonistic with Tangle
>>564304720Funny because AI replaces white collars way faster than blue collars, so it's replacing components at the top of the pyramids and could likely tell every executive to fuck off.
Boy!
Remember, Remember,The Station of Square...
>>564304857Did he reply?
>>564304867Personally speaking, as the anon you're replying to, I think it's fine to keep it off-screen or in supplementary material but just acknowledge their general relationship as not serious but close and exploratory. I think it's fun if they enjoy each other's company but Amy keeps up the chase and continues to work at bettering herself to try and live life alongside Sonic without tying him down. Sonic is absolutely the kind of person that can relax and take things slow, but it's not very exciting game content and it'd probably cause a lot of shitflinging among the comic audience. And he really doesn't have any committed feelings for Amy. He goes on dates with her because they sound fun, even if (as in the Sonic Channel story) he kind of regrets agreeing so quickly.I like the Amy/Sonic dynamic as it is (or at least was) and have no real desire to see it go any further.
>>564304857Don’t beat up on Gabs. Thanks to her, Sega found out about Ian’s Bumblekast and ordered him to scale it back and to stop giving out information for payment
Plapping the bat
>>564305270he did>>564304857
>>564305993
>>564304857Silvazefags really don't get that Silver and Blaze are supposed to be two separate things and not Silver being part of Blaze's world.
>>564306042>Nishiyama: "silvaze? umm uhhhhh i... i can't answer individual questions... ugh..."I kek
>>564306042Why is Sega so miserable
Every time Gabe tries to force Silver into a Blaze conversation she reminds me of Sonallyfags. Maybe all shippers are annoying pushy retards.
>>564306204
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESmYgyiHPG0>>564305675Tomii Pepehttps://x.com/tomii_pepe
>>564304867That would be OOC.
everytime sonamyfags try to turn sonic into their gentle shy boy I feel Naka's rage
which oc should I fap to todayI did cigs yesterday no repeats
>>564306390
>>564306520>everytime sonamyfags try to turn sonic into their gentle shy boyArchie is not canon
What is the inspect element thing spergs try to use as a gotcha?
>>564306673of course. neither is sonamy
>>564306659
>>564306312
He's edgy and cool now
>>564305512The “going on relaxing dates” thing works better in animations and comics but could also be used in the games if they had a feature that lets you hang out with other characters. If you were playing as Sonic and chose to hang out with Amy/vice versa, you could go on a date and if you decide to rest somewhere relaxing and calm, it would trigger idle dialogue and animations.Sonic’s love for Amy ought to be fully sincere. Not half-hearted.
>>564306042>straying as far away from shipping as possibleGood lad
>>564306871>>564306042I can feel Nishiyama's disgust at Shitver deep in my soul
>>564306871>I might have missed something but who is that guy that Blaze is hanging around and what are they even doing?>explanation session later>how the fuck is that tanabata?
I'm not seeing any evidence that Sonamyfags understand Sonic's character more than Sonally fags. In fact they seem to insist on the exact same things and don't really care about if Sonic is in-character. The only difference is the design of the girl.
>>564306895>it would trigger idle dialogue and animations.
>>564306525suck
Where the fuck can I read the full interview?
>>564306769No one's going to answer?
>>564307231Yep, that's basically it. They could've been right 20 years ago, but now it's clear as day that Sonic doesn't want to engage in romance and doesn't like Amy that way, he sees her as a friend. Yet Sonamy fans keep denying it.
>>564307231all conversation i have had with so far everywhere were about amy and how it benefits amy. they don't give a crap about sonic. they only care about their pink self insert
>>564307231Archie is still not canon
>>564306895>Sonic’s love for Amy ought to be fully sincere. Not half-hearted.But that's not how Sonic is written. He likes hanging out with Amy and he gets a little shy when asked what their relationship is, but he's not the type to commit like that. Boy's heart and such.
>>564307502>now it's clear as day that Sonic doesn't want to engage in romance and doesn't like Amy that way, he sees her as a friendBait
>>564307683>>564307719>huffs the copium
>>564307719Where is the lie
>>564307760Duo...
>>564307502>but now it's clear as day that Sonic doesn't want to engage in romance and doesn't like Amy that wayThis mindbreaks shiptards
>>564306450you legend thankyou!
>>564307828Play the games.>>564307861Samefag
Game over!Try again?
>>564308015
>>564307859Not your funny friend. I am someone much worse.
>>564308015Which games?
Suck it, Nishiyama-sama!
>>564308107But I thought you hated Ian Flynn's OOC slopMore proof that you don't give a crap about Sonic and only select whatever suits your agenda even if OOC
>>564307263I was thinking of Sonic and Amy holding hands snd talking romantically if you decide to let them sit idly somewhere.>>564307502You’re going to forget about those idle voice lines in Frontiers?>>564307535It would benefit Sonic too by letting him enjoy mundane things in life>>564307683Either you love a girl or you don’t. No in between. Sonic needs to pick one
>>564308297I thought the breath was his bone sticking out of his arm.
>>564308198Sonic's green wife
>>564308439>Either you love a girl or you don’t. No in between. Sonic needs to pick oneAnon...
>>564308360I do, but Ian didn't write those lines by his own admission. Kishimoto most likely did.
>>564308439>It would benefit Sonic too by letting him enjoy mundane things in lifethat's not what Sonic does. you can do that plot with Shadow. since Maria used to talk to him about the fun shit to do on earth or whatever. but not with Sonic. Sonic haves his own fun his own way
>>564308442Grim
>>564307502I think you would need a different interpretation of Sonic to make Sonamy work, that is not the one from the games.It's 30+ years of not the even slight romantic atmosphere in their scenes together
>>564308360Based Kishimoto
Shadally Sonurge Silvouge
>>564308360>Ian Flynn's OOC slopThere's quite a bit of that here, weirdly >>564306470
>>564308264The Ship for Superior People
>>564307102>how the fuck is that tanabataSilver = Iblis (bull horns) fighting Warrior of the future = Cow herder of AltairBlaze = Burning Princess of the Sol dimension = Weaving Princess of Vega06's ending = Separation of the princess and herder for shirking their duties
>>564308439>It would benefit Sonic too by letting him enjoy mundane things in lifeDoesn't Sonic do that already? He likes to spend time in nature and relax
>>564308653>but not with Sonic. Sonic haves his own fun his own waySonic literally chills by the beach and checks out the sights wherever he's at. He does a lot of mundane shit. He's a drifter, not some weirdo. He's like those van life guys or those gigachads who own their own boats.
Sonamyfags keep using the argument that Yuji Naka didn't create Sonic singlehandedly but Naoto Oshima didn't work on SA2, Heroes, Shadow, and 06 like Naka did. Are you going to say those games are OOC?
>>564308816All based
>>564309009Can you dumb niggers stop talking about this already?
SEGA won't have their mascot characters in a relationship ever, but they will keep cockteasing Sonamy and not your favorite OOC ship!
>>564309009There's no conflict with those games and how things work before them unless you count mistranslations in Heroes.
>>564308854Sonaze is Tanabata in that they were seperated but meet occasionally after. Silvaze has them forget who each other are and they interact later just because with no fanfare.
>>564309105You understand SEGA,
JP SHADE LUV KNUCKKU
>>564309009Sonic doesn't need someone to help him enjoy mundane shit. Shadow does. Sonic has his own fun his own way. leave Sonic alone and go ship shadamy or whatever. BESTIE
^-^
>>564309231Nice try, Shadamyfag.
>Tanabata is slop>Anyway we own TanabataBlazefags...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVNAHe1ZjPc
>>564309378>hah! you must be shadamyfag! you are telling me to go ship shadamytake your bestie meds
Sage and Belle have a mind link ability
>>564309394>Anyway we own TanabataNo one said that, schizo
>>564308592Lame trope. Just an excuse to not actually put in the effort to write an actual romance>>564309105Sega is greedy and loves money and they see money to be made with movie 4 and a romance-based year of Amy. Their greed will make them give in
>>564309512Duo... Sonougefag... Shadamyfag... Sonurgefag... Boogeyman...
>>564309517Man that's cool but I really don't care about those characters
>>564309517That's cool
>>564309623anon the human man...
>>564309161>>564309394Blazefags just want Blaze to suck Sonic's dick instead of Silver's, that's literally it. They don't give a shit about her beyond shipping bait
i ate too much during easter and still havent burned it
>>564309793You can be a mentor to someone and still be shipped with them.
>>564309793Blaze from Rush, her creator doesn't even acknowledges Silver in her story.
>>564304857Every one of Gab's posts under anything about Blaze is always >how can I make this about silvazeAnd I find that so incredible sad how desperate she is to make Blaze's existence revolve and bend around Silver
>>564309517Evan keeps forcing her pet OC to be relevant as if people still care about her
>>564310039Kat mogging Ebony and Lanolin as per request.
>>564308849Damn, my crop didn't upload because it was Too Superior, here's an inferior low-quality version I guess
>>564309995unlike Blazefags who tries to make Blaze's existence revolve and bend around Sonic
>>564310280Don't fucking speak for me, sonazefags are fake blazefags just as much as silvazefags. Slopaze in both directions, get that shit out
>>564306450Heh.
Westies trying to push fangames and mania over jap kino is sad.
Average sonazefag is always we love sonic rush but never rush adventure, they love talking about the parallels of sonic and blaze but can't remember a detail of the sol dimension, sonazefags love to pretend Marine doesn't exist and then try to shackle Cream to Blaze to keep her hanging around in Sonic's dimension and forfeit Team Rose. Do not ever call sonaze slopfestfags blazefags, they're fakers just as much as the white demon worshippers that try to shackle blaze to silver's future
>>564308264>>564310143Nah, let's go back to the crack HonJinx, I wanna see how the story ends.
>>564304857Yeah, from what he is saying, the translation of this seems a bit off.
>>564309517I don't think archiefags would like to hear it, but I think Belle is being setup to be put into a Nicole type purpose in the future. Team Sonic's personal ai to Eggman's
YUJI BAKA SANK MY SHIP AND I CANT SELF INSERTAAIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>564311163>unironic wojak posting
Shadow kills Black Doom but not Eggman?
Krack is the most based person on sthg
Duo is the most based person on sthg
>>564311428YUJI BAKA SANK MY SHIP AND I CAN'T SELF INSERTAAIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
does someone have that image of uwuver trying to hug fatsper but respecting her personal spaceit was done by krack btw
>>564290528Hey, did BBA forget to put this one up at the booru? I don't see it there yet.
Pretty clever of the writer to give Sonic minimal screentime and dialogue in this issue so that they don't get yelled at for mischaracterization I guess this also confirms that the 3 issue arc mandate is true. Second time in a row the crisis lasted exactly 3 issues
>>564309161Sonic isn't a cow herder stand in and he isn't celestial themed. Silver fighting Iblis and Ifrit is a stand-in for Hikoboshi's cow herding duties and his Future is a stand in for Altair. Sonic doesn't have duty like Silver does in 06 which is part of the separation.
>>564311803i haven't seen any of his previous requests there at all...
>>564310039OR here, thanks!
So it's Starline back from the dead. Duh
>>564311908"Who the FUCK is Silver"- Akinori Nishiyama
>>564309427You know that's in the OP right?
>>564304857>Any topic that has Blaze in it.>"BUT WHAT ABOUT SILVER?!"Someone at Sega should just give Nakamura the funding to make his faggot Silver game and give him his own cast so he can stop mooching off of other characters already.
>>564306390Moewdow... Nyadow.. The ultimate catform...
>>564312129No problem, boobs of steel are always welcome.
>>564306390PSPSPSPSPSPS
They're blue balling us in this issue about the identity of the villain As well as, the next issue is in june to give space for DC x crossover
>>564308439>Muh OooogiesEverytime
>>564312839>They're blue balling us in this issue about the identity of the villainBlue balling my assthe starline zombie design was leaked in twitter way before this issue got out so this already comfirms that it starline again.
>>564310039siiiiiick
>>564312559Frankly, Blaze is the one doing the mooching. Silver is a much more popular character.
Who's the new villain?
>>564312839It's Starline, Sage said the only culprit is dead. That means it's Starline
>>564312964The Zombie design was in the concept art book>>564313250We still don't know yet, probably Starline again
Bun!
>>564311929I see them, you just have to look through character or request tags. I guess a blueboardanon tag should be added since the new pic was signed as BBA?https://sthg.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=19563This was the last pic until the previous thread, pretty sure.
>>564312839>giant star>sonic recognizes the villain>brainwashed to forget>Sage says the only thing the being resembles is someone who has perishedThey're being blatant as fuck
>>564313441Ok but what does zombie Starline exactly offer to the cast?
Hope it's Chadfinite
>>564312839>>564312964>>564313301I think they're falseflagging with it being Starline. I think it's going to be a villain connected to him or something created by him as a backup if he died (basically an AI Starline).
I'M GONNA STICK THIS IN YOUR ASS, SONICGET SCREWED
>>564313646An extra villain that isn't completely retarded and gives Surge and Kit their sonic heroes third mate and possibly is a gateway to let them become real villains or antagonists again
>>564313481https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/559627808/#559640649https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/561352718/#561363230these two are missing
>>564313732This is a comic for stupid babies who think Eggman can be redeemed. It's going to be Starline.
>>564313769why the fuck would Surge and Kit team up with Starline again did you miss the part they fucking hate him? If anything he's gonna be their worst nemesis
>>564311929>>564313481Not them but you can also find them on archives, filename: request s[number]lowq
>>564313732>>564313839Remember when people genuinely argued that Lanolin could be mimic and that they weren't actually being that obvious with Mimic
>>564313737
>>564309229How long ago was this drawn up in japan? Because Shade would never appear now I wonder how her OG creator feels knowing thanks to a stunted man child merican she's never gonna show up ever again
Ah, obvious villain reveals gives me nostalgia for Obito.
>>564313929Did you miss the part where Starline brainwashed and manipulated them several times
you're so fucking stupdu
>>564314032Shade's last manga appearance is post 2010. There are advertisements for Pokemon gen 5 in between the pages.She is the first western character to appear in JP stuff isn't she?
>>564313680>Hope it's ChadfiniteAnon IDW isn't allowed to change the main cast or give them a story focused arcso it very obvious at this point that it gonna be a OC villian and not infinite.
>>564313956That was retarded because we saw him become Duo
>>564314103Why would you want their characters to return back to zero
>>564308439Sonic already appreciates the mundane things in life without Amy. He loves the earth as whole as much as he loves adventure.
Im just waiting for the Tails raping issueWe need realistic despictions of rape.
>>564312623I like you.
>>564314329He would enjoy those things even more with Amy next to him
Amy would slow Sonic down unlike Surge
>>564314329What Sonic likes is playing therapist, make Amy more deranged and he will like her more
>>564314324Are they actually developing or is it a false hope of light for them at the end of the tunnel? Surge wants to become a hero to best sonic and Kit goes along with it to help her, at the end of the day, they're still slaves to Starline's programming and trapped in the same cycle as him. Its perfectly fitting for all three characters to bring them all back to zero
>>564314370They can't do that as Sega has deemed the name "cucky" offensive and Ian flynn refuses to call him "clucky" as it ruins the integrity and foundation this franchise rests on.I was honestly shock to see Ian this passionate about cucky's name and origins, and how it really elevates the sarrow of the Tails rape issue.
>>564314546Surge would kill Sonic
It's so flattering to hear Eggman and Sage talk about how smort Tails is
>>564314592I like you.If Amy is gonna change character we might as well give her schizophrenia and other mental illnesses, and a fatish for bare hands.
>>564314681No it would be god awful, prove they accomplished nothing and their characters are a waste of time. The only thing that could redeem this is if Starline is just this fantastic of a villain and it's painted as a dark story about meticulous and brutal manipulation which IDW is too kiddie to do
Imagine trusting Ian redeemnic flynn
>>564314827>their characters are a waste of timeThat's always what they've been at their core though. From the start with Starline himself being a lesser Eggman, to Surge being a lesser Sonic and Kit being a lesser Tails. They're whole existence is founded on meta analysis of the main characters very literally as it gets brought up that way in their arcs, and trying to replicate them and failing to do so while getting trapped in the very cycle they try to break and that becoming their own cycle. Its tragic as it is fitting
>>564286368>Just enter the code for Robotnik on easy, it take three seconds.that still leads me to playing the game for 3 secondsi don't want to play the game. i want to non-play it
>>564313956No, I don't. I remember more people thinking Lanolin secretly worked for Clutch.
Cute nerrrrrrd
>>564315181Imagine what his farts smell like
>>564314051A proper Obito equivalent would be someone like Maria coming back as a villain.
>>564310039>Ugh they’re so obviously fake…>Yet your envy is 100% real.>*Dammit I knew I shouldn’t have shaved this morning*
>>564315279No
>>564313737Remember Chuck Thorndyke actually did this on a TV-Y7 show
>>564315310That's the kind of thing Archie would have done
>>564315589Archie would've just made it Maria's mom or long lost sister or something.
Seems like Charmy's ability is getting nerfed. I hope they give compensation
Amy canonically does shave her pussy, she's not a kid anymore, so she now has a jungle of a bush down there. And it smells like fish but she insists it adds flavor.Rouge trims it, she likes a healthy amount hair for a mature and clean look. Smell clean like water.Wave keeps it shaved completely. Not much smell.Blaze just doesn't have pubes naturally alongside her itty bitty kitty titties. Smells like she masturbated 27 times in the last second you looked away from her.Vanilla has a big bush but she keeps in clean. Smells like Cinnamon.
>>564314698>The only character Ian cares about keeping in-character is this fucking chicken.
>>564315045outside of the world of sonic that's what they are sure but to properly intergrate them into the world as their own they must change beyond their mind rape by starline for that to happen Starline himself must also change beyond his defeat at Eggman's hands and his "death" what happens to Starline after this now that he has Sage will show case the direction Sega has in mind for him, Surge and Kit lind like how the warp topez was spared confirmed destruction and Infinite was brough back from the death years ago around 2 years ago in private and released to the public only now which means while the story of Shadow Fall was canceled for public release the actual story has not faded it simply means whatever the plot they have there will be held back for a few years just like how fucking long it took for professor victoria, she was created fucking six years ago, officially revealed 4 years ago, officially voiced 2 years ago officially revealed with said voice this fucking year. I don't know exactly understand the plotting stage, the planning stage, the execution stage and the public reveal stage sega operates on but it takes a long fucking time to get everything out the door, Sage's official indoctrination into the world of IDW likely operates under the same rules, we're likely reading a story that was written years ago only now being publicized
>>564316098Ian relates to his desire to rape and cum until it is done...
She's right
I still hate Mania and fanshit
>when you devote your entire life around an edgy version of mickey mouse to make it your own personal capeshit>but years later it gets shut down and erased from collective memory, replaced by hello kitty for boys with 500 mandates so no more AI lesbians for your personal reddit ego>on top of it, you can't do any other job but writing for hello kitty now>so you start to do the bare minimum waiting for either your other indie comic is taken seriously in a landfill of better written slop, or for edgy mickey mouse to let you free writing any bullshit as they once did
>>564316274A broken clock is right twice a day.Krack is still a faggot.
>>564316274Every time someone posts one of krack's posts here, I think a little more than krack might actually be based.
>>564316274If Sonic is so japanese why is it a flop in japan?
>>564316274This bitch likes Mania, not a real purist
>>564316420Japanese people never got to see Sonic's fully erect penis.
>>564316274So is the "west is shit" and "kill westies" poster? That would explain she hasnt posted Shitdria as much
>>564316420It happens. See also:
>>564316420Japan likes short cute stubby mascot characters and Sonic is not
>>564316274Sonic didn't succeed in the west because Sega knew what they were doing. Their opinion of what Sonic should be is irrelevant
>>564316274Why would a real based white person don't approve colonialism and simp for the japanese?Sounds leftist behavior.
Sonic is a weeb franchise for the west.Sonic not being Japanese ruins the weeb appeal of Micky mouse going on anime adventures.
>>564316420Because it's a rundown dead franchise.
>>564309517Post the rest you doublenigger
>>564316274I love you Krack!
Fans are not the problem. The inaccuracies between the eastern and western versions are translation and distribution errors that need to be corrected at the source
>when i post something to get (You)s but suddenly here comes the fucking niggerfaggot reposting a twitter screenshot of krack so i'm completely ignoredI hope you people get an even gayer and senile version of sonic.
>Sonic X ep 3might this guy be Omega's prototype? Cause Eggman just called him E-123
>>564316754Japan also likes myths of demons who tear out men's souls out of their anuses that's not an excuse
How do we kill krack
>>564316931Yes, they are.Mania and SBR2 are as bad as IDW and Archie.
>>564317071with a gun
>>564316823The changes SoA made to Sonic in the west in the 90s had very little top do with why it was successful and we know this because the version of Sonic that had actual legs and staying power was the Japanese version.the Sonic Fad era flamed out after a year and a half.
>>564316931I hate those discrepancies so much. We were expecting script consistency due to Sonic Team’s restructuring but we never got it. We need to complain about this to Sega of Japan with a customer feedback ticket. It’s the only way they’ll listen
>>564317019I think all of Eggman's robots of the day in season 1 are considered part of the E-100 series
>>564316931It's not errors, it's completely intentional changes by the west to turn Sonic into their own liking
>>564317019Was it actually called that?
>>564317019Missile Wrist is E-23, not 123.
>>564317226>the version of Sonic that had actual legs and staying power was the Japanese version.You mean the version that crashed and burned after Sega left the console market until it reached utter rock bottom with 06 and Sonic became the butt of the joke of the gaming world?
>>564317290The west can only have power if it is given to them by the east
>krack posted?>KRACK POSTED?>KRACK HAS OPINIONS??!? NANNAGAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH
>>564317371gotcha
If you're not a JP purist can you actually name a single western characterization change that you consider good?
>>564317019I really like that there's a consistency with a lot of the early "elite" badnik designs, especially the E-series and the buildup to it, but I hate that X just made anything and everything E-series.
Krackqueen
>>564317417>You mean the version that crashed and burned after Sega left the console market You mean the one that continued to thrive after they left the console market? Really suplimenting my theory that consolefaggotry and burgernicfaggotry are highly correlated.The reality is Sonic didn't need console exclusivity because he was and still is that strong. SoA were the ones that needed Sonic.
>>564317417The version that's been around for nearly 26 years in the west now? The American "canon" only lasted for 6-7 years max.
>>564317226All the cool Sonic vibes and Mario rivalry is from SoA's marketing team, and they have more legs than classic Sonic lmao
>>564317429What if it’s the case that Takashi Iizuka and the rest aren’t paying enough attention to SOA?
they're gonna give Knuckles' personality to Shadow since they can't bring Knuckles along without coming up some half-assed excuse to get him away from the ME
>>564310093How do you expect these characters to have any development if you bitch every time they get development?
jesus christ i wish i'm still a 12 years old retard watching sonic x edits on youtube
>>564317872Iizuka doesn't care because he doesn't have a vision. The west started taking control the moment he became leader of Sonic Team.
>>564317552Apparently the name Miles Prower was made up by a western dev. I like the name Miles.I like Sonic being a bit more cocky and dropping the occasional (heavy emphasis on occasional) one-liner. Many things.
>>564318025>editsyou mean amvs...
>>564317915Shadow isn't a meathead like Knuckes
>>564317872If it is the case, then they (Iizuka) aren't doing their job to keep the synergy plan in place as the western market is biggerIf it isn't the case, then everything is being done with their (Iizuka's) blessing
>>564317932Her characters are lame. Nobody cares about their "development" and even Evan knows that and that's why she got passive aggressive over people not liking Belle that time.
>>564318069i call them edits cuz i'm esl, what are those? musical videos?
>>564317763>Mario rivalryI hate this. It holds the series back. This vestigial element overshadows the actual substance and merits of the series too much even to this day when consolefaggotry is old hat anyway.>cool Sonic vibesThat's simply untrue. I suspect they influenced Sonic to be more skaterboi, which I like, but most of the things they added to him made him a fucking poochie.
>>564318063Miles Prower was Japanese, Tails was the name made by the west.
>>564317741>Thrive>going strongJapschizos must live in a parallel dimension. Sonic became garbage.
>>564317741Fuck off Nintendo faggot.Sega should never released games in your shitty underpowered consoles
>>564318187We can tell that "synergy" crap was thrown out the window when the Lore Faggot Team said Blade of Courage wasn't canon.
>>564318325yes
>>564317932I don't want Belle in the comic, period. I want the comic to actually be about adventures with the game cast, not the OCs they keep shitting outThat's why the Classic IDW comics are way better because those are actually about adventures with the game cast, not showing in creators pet OCs that takes up all the spotlight
>>564318406>skipping the entire era before SA1 where Sonic was shit.everytime. Consoleshitters only owned the Genesis and only played Sonic 2, and since the internet wasn't widespread like it is now, the cruised through the entire classic darkage.>>564318441I game on PC, loser.
>>564318492I wonder what Yuuki Imada thinks of this
>>564318056This is why we need to contact SOJ and demand they put a leash on SOA>>564318187It would be the worst thing for Takashi Iizuka to be allowing SOA to be ruining the franchise with his approval. It would be an utter betrayal to the fans who have been demanding quality and consistency
>>564318492>Ian Flynn: "I-I see... an up-and-comer... I'd love to... 'work' with him...">Yuki Imada: *'collaborates' with Ian Flynn on the CrossWorlds manga by eviscerating all the dialogue*>Ian Flynn: (Fuck, this guy's untennable! Code Red! Nuclear Option, guys! N-NON-CANON!)
>>564318406>mainline>Rise of Lyric???
>>564318786Probably doesn't care.
>>564318734And yet you defend OC shit like Yutta
>>564318783Sonic was literally only good during the Genesis.
>>564318891Perks of being xenophobic
>>564318941I don't know who Yutta is
>>564310462
I'm doubting it's Starline because they're not allowed to change the characters from their initial designs and shticks and the OCs aren aren't exempt from this.
Sage is happy that Belle sees her as a sister!!!!!!!!!! That's so cute!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>564319096Proof?
>>564319192Someone on IDW said it. I THINK it concerned Lanolin when they finalized her design to become a character.
>>564319316sauce?
>>564319343Eh, I don't buy it.
>>564319083
>>564319030The games that sold well on genesis sold well because they were pack-in games.It was fad sales.
>>564318734>That's why the Classic IDW comics are way better because those are actually about adventures with the game cast, not showing in creators pet OCs that takes up all the spotlightAnon classic has no story and no character development and you are limited to only use eggman and metal sonic do you really want this over the modern sonic ?
>metal sonic believes he is the original in the west>He knows he is a copy in JapanPurists will try to tell you the japanese one is better. Don't believe their lies. They are boring. Hive mind mentality that makes them unable to think for themselves
>>564319535More beloved than 00s slop
>>564318734IDW Classic is boring as all fuck because they literally do nothing but run around a forest and state their character traits
https://x.com/i/status/2046438930229407941Sonic CD 2 confirmed
>>564319562
>i love the real Sonic>genesis games are a fadWhat did jptrannies mean by this?
>>564313576>>564319096I'm still holding out for Scrapnik Shinobi, guys...
>>564319595Metal knows he is a copy in both. He has a complex about being a copy. he doesn't literally think he is Sonic T. Hedgehog. Its a coping mechnism.
>>564319535What even is this point you're trying to make? That Sonic was always bad? And you call yourself a Sonic fan?
>>564319096Anon they are allowed to change the OC's designthe only thing they are not allowed to change is the Main characters designs and that it.
Surge is being promoted as a sonic-like in official capacity. It's not an accident they promote her with Shadow and Metal Sonic. She has usurped Blaze as the sonic-like rival girl
>>564319791
>>564319817Sonic 3 and Knuckles combined sales don't even compare to Sonic 1 and 2s despite by and far being the superior game(s) because the fad was dying. it's not about whether the games were good. It's about perspective.
>>564309229Shade was the most Sonic Team ever invested in a western OC before IDW
>>564309517woodchipper soon
>>564319912Weeb autists unfortunately don't understand subtlety, you kind of just have to hope they grow up a little...
>>564319985>Anon they are allowed to change the OC's designI'm pretty sure they can't.
>>564320115Combined it's the third best selling Genesis game
>>564319914see>>564320115I'm saying SoA's version of Sonic had little to nothing to do with the success of the series back then. I didn't say anything about the quality of the actual games or series, dummy.
>>564319912In the west he says " my loathsome copy" and in Japan "my loathsome other self". "Copy" implies metal thinks he is the original, the japanese one doesn't. It's a small detail, but many of Metal's fanarts are made with the western one in mind
>>564320086
>>564319096They are if it's technically a new version of the character. It's been years since Starline was declared deceased, so there's nothing really established around that design anymore. If this becomes the Starline that's a more permanent addition to the series, then this design will be the one that's not allowed to change going forward and how he will appear in everything
I have already started to write up a customer feedback ticket for SOJ to tell them that the lore team and possibly SOA higher ups are corrupting Amy’s character and portraying it in a way that does not match her Japanese character. I’m also going to tell them that the fans hate this, that they want the English and Japanese game scripts to be similar in wording for the sake of having a consistent narrative and consistent characterization, and that this needs strict oversight from SOJ.I strongly urge you guys to do this as well. This habit of SOA changing and ruining things cannot keep going on. Let your voices be heard
>>564320309... honestly I think I prefer the western version where he's completely delusional. I find it more interesting that way. But both versions work
>>564320269>needing 2 games to accomplish that feat.SoA was being carried by Sonic, appealed to short term fad tactics instead of long term planning, and flamed the series out.
>>564320320
>>564319536>>564319652I just want fun cool episodic adventures with Sonic and friends just like the games. That's why I like Scrapnik Island, it's the closest the comic ever got to have a story that feels like it could take place in the game universe
I read the issue and Sonic apparently saw who the mystery villain is, but didn't tell anyone?
>>564318325anime music video, yes
>>564311163>SIMA
>>564320502Like SOJ did with the 00s games, right?
>>564320418You're wasting your time but whatever you do you>>564320502Yeah they needed two games because Sonic 3 missed the 1993 Christmas window where people spend more and Sonic & Knuckles had to compete against Donkey Kong Country. Also Sonic 1 and 2 (to a lesser extent but still) were often bundled with the Genesis
>>564320606He got memory wipedAn ability a certain platypus has been shown to do numerous times
>>564320289How does that sustain your point in any shape or form
>>564320309Its negligibly different. Other self comes with the implication that Sonic is an imposter or that both are vying for authenticity of some kind regardless.Him thinking he is literally Sonic T Hedgehog doesn't make sense. He isn't trying to save the world or sightseeing, etc.
>>564320309He still says things in the western translations that indicate that he's aware he isn't the original. He even still calls himself "Metal" Sonic and not just "Sonic".
>>564314051Now we need a Madara x Hashirama moment in Sonic because apparently even One Piece is going to pull that shit next.
>>564316274
>>564320418 (me)Make sure to take screenshots of dialogue and character differences and of fans complaining about them. Include links to YouTube videos as well. It will strengthen your case.
Hey there kidz
>>564320825There is literally only two roads with this villain and it's either that he's just Starline or they're gonna do that subversive crap and act clever.
>>564320475>I honestly prefer to change the true intention into my own liking because I prefer my own headcanonspoken like a true SoA executive
>>564316274>tranny>worships japslop>pretends japnic ever had a consistent vision and isn't a writhing mass of retconsWestGODS won.Buttkrack tranny lost.
>>564320115That's like saying Super Mario Bros 3 was a massive failure because it sold 50% less than Super Mario Bros 1 for the NES despite selling like 17 million copies and released super late into the NES' life when the 16-bit generation had already launched
The sexual tension...
>>564321135>they're gonna do that subversive crap and act cleverWhen has idw actually ever done that?
>>564319078The one from the Blade of Courage manga, for reference.
>>564320115S3&K is noticably worse than S2, which makes sense, because it had less Western influence. The seeds of SoJ's arrogance and the ongoing failure of the franchise can be seen there, culminating in Advenshit driving the company to bankruptcy.
>>564321509IDW has never subverted any tropeIt didn't successfuly write any trope either
>Write a game once>Become the best selling Sonic game in decades>/sthg/ he won't write frontiers 2AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAGAGAHA
>>564320767Its not even about the 2000s games. All the elements of Sonic that are actually iconic came from the Japanese version of the character. That doesn't mean SoA contributed nothing or that everything SoJ did was perfect mind you. IDGAF about that. But all the elements that had legs came from the Japanese version of the character and brand. Even insofar as the Classics in the 90s are concerned.>>564320857The argument often made is that Sonic was more successful when SoA hand more of a grip on the series by pointing to the sales of the genesis games.My point is that the things that actually lasted, (Sonic's design, concept, character(s), etc that actually had legs and stood the test of time were from the japanese version of the character, and any conflation with the Western version is confounded by other factors and peaked and crashed very quickly by comparison.
>>564321541Oh that guy, I don't like him either but he's a necessary evil or else the manga has no story
Sonic CD is the most purely japanese game of the main Genesis games and coincidentally it's also the worst
Why do twitterfags think every act of masculinity in the series is misogyny
>>564321637So why are we even thinking they could do that? Ffs the villain has extra cameras on Surge and Kit, it can't be anymore on the nose
I like Sonic Frontiers dialogue and I like Sonic's deep frontiers voice
>>564320418>I’m also going to tell them that the fans hate thisWhy are you lying to them? The only people who care about Amy are nonfans who hate Sonic games.
>>564321792This also a west game called Doom mogged it so hard in 1993
The 90s were prestigious, and fascinatingly focused on giving Sonic a background and lore so early one with their own bells and twists. I love the SOA bibles we got so far, the deeper trivia on Sonic and FFs, and I'm pretty passionate with Archie taking SatAM torch and extending/twisting it further into its charm. I love Acorn Kingdom's set up and the rest of Mobius, full of sci-fi and medieval stuff. Makes me wish Sonic were just like Megaman, with letting interpretations of Sonic running on their own and giving no hecks on k'an-num. 90s old west Sonic is vastly underappreciated and it bums me out not so many take mind in it.
>>564321408>That's like saying Super Mario Bros 3 was a massive failure becauI didn't say it was a failure. I said you can't correlate the sales of the game with the quality of the games or SoA's version of the character and series being more prominent or not. It's weak correlative factors in regards to the success of the brand at the time.
Amy along with the freedom fighters are almost completely absent from 2000s Sonic fan animations unless they're shipping or porn or expressly mocking them
>>564320581>I just want fun cool episodic adventures with Sonic and friends just like the games. Yes, I know, but it wouldn't work for several reasons.One is that classic Sonic can't create new villains and can only use Metal and Eggman for the rest of the comic book's history.Another is that the world of classic Sonic is very small and there's almost nothing fun or interesting to explore in it compared to the world of modern Sonic.
>>564321710If he’s going to write Frontiers 2, then SOJ needs to put a tight leash on him and they need to make the Japanese and English scripts similar
I don't care about Sonic Frontiers dialogue and I hate Sonic's deep frontiers voice
>>564321767Ah yes, the iconic elements like "Nicky," "Tania," "Witchcart..." as opposed to those non-enduring elements like Sonic and Tails' brotherly relationship, chili dogs, Robotnik and roboticization.>>564321792No coincidence at all.
>>564321796>Why do twitterstopped reading there
>>564322127Now we just lying. Amy was like, the main plot element on Final Fantasy Sonic X.
>>564320880>>564320881The point is many people took the idea of Metal believing he is the original from here and they aren't going to change because of "b-but in Japan..." bullshit
>>564322050ROTOR IS LITERALLY USELESS! SALLY IS MORE CAPABLE WITH MACHINES
>>564321909>>564322218Fat deku https://x.com/Gazungamer/status/2005339317569540413
>>564322179Agreed, they need to make it clear that Sonic doesn't like Amy, as in the Japanese script of Frontiers, instead of giving Amytroons false hope like he did in the English script. Trying to pander to Sonamy proves he doesn't understand Amy or Sonic's character.
>>564322356Violet!
>>564322231>elements like Sonic and Tails' brotherly relationshipThat element is Japanese. It was baked into Tails from the very beginning by Yamaguchi and Naka
Sally mogs Rotor
>>564322376Why was his voice perfect in Free Riders
>>564322154The world IDW created for modern Sonic is boring as shit with nothing but furries everywhere. That's why I like Scrapnik Island, a whole island of cool robots instead
>>564322456Cut it out with your bad bait
Rotorfag rapes Violet everyday.
>>564321767>My point is that the things that actually lasted, (Sonic's design, concept, character(s), etc that actually had legs and stood the test of time were from the japanese version of the characterWhat about the short lived manga versions like Nicky from Shogakugan? That didn't survive the test of time at all compared to the western comics. Or the Dash & Spin comic. Those are purely japanese products that died and were mostly forgotten.
>>564303778
>>564312440He did kinda say this. lol
>>564322231How about Sonic being the worlds fastest hobo, turning into a supersaiyan when collecting the chaos emeralds, fighting giant robots and god monsters and running from the cops and association with House music vs Sonic turning blue from running on a treadmill and his name being Sonny or Eggman fusing with a literal rotten egg....Ready to have a balanced conversation now?
>>564322231Roboticization was not an induring conceptstuff like chili dogs and Robotnik actually got adapted to the games
Why do you keep calling it a universal translator when in the actual episode it's just an animal translator that translates to English
>"THE IDW CHARACTERS ARE SO WORTHLESS, THE COMIC ONLY FOCUSES ON THE WIND, THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING!">"Okay, so we'll give them more storylines to flesh out their characters.">"THE IDW OCS ARE SO FORCED, WHY DON'T THE COMICS FOCUS ON JUST THE WIND, REEEEEEE"
>>564322664You never know what you have until you lose it. Everyone bitched about how bad free riders sounded as the first game without the 4kids cast and now look where we're at
