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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #9255 - Cream's Dad Edition

==NEWS==
>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversary
https://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary
>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027
https://x.com/SonicMovie

==Comic Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog #86 - 22 April 2026
DC x Sonic the Hedgehog: Metal Legion #1 - 06 May 2026
DC x Sonic the Hedgehog: Metal Legion #2 - 03 June 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #87 - 10 June 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #88 - 24 June 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog x Godzilla #1 - Summer 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog: 35th Anniversary Special - 15 December 2026

==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>Milestone pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic comic scans:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics
>Sonic shows:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows
>SAGE
https://sagexpo.org/
>SHC
https://shc.zone/
>#10000 Project
https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4r
>/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
>/sthg/ CyTube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixel World:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

IDW Sonic issue #86: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVNAHe1ZjPc

Previous Zone: >>564243637
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>>564253665
Surge hasn't been redeemed. She's always tried to be a better hero than Sonic and Ian doesn't want her to get redeened.
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Douge
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Opposite Sonic
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>>564304130
"Societies" are evolving to the point the elite of child-raping billionaires want to turn every possible labour processes done by AI so they can finally replace the working class and kill all poor people
Sonic says
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>what makes me better than (You)?
>modularity
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>>564304559
if I was in charge i'd make classic Sonic a sub brand that takes place in an alt dimension where everyone is smaller. Sonic but chibi. and give everyone a chibi design. and go on chibi shounen adventures. I wouldn't do that crap they have been trying to do since sonic generations. this idea does exist but it manifested as "sonic and friends" which is just slop for babby and not something that is unironically fun to consume by whatever age group you are
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>Cream and Blaze's creator finally talking with fans about the ideas behind the characters after years of silence.
>That one Silvazefag:
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>>564302786
It’s only 2 dates and the one Sonic promised to go on in Unleashed was foiled by the fact he got transported to the world of King Arthur. Sonic needs to make it up to Amy. A date in a Sonic Channel story isn’t enough. There should be ones in the games, preferably open world ones, and in the comics as well.
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i only request ocs and I will NEVER pay for art. art is worthless. now draw my oc or you are a nigger
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>>564304875
Woefag... dfwnn... cigsfag....
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>>564304196
Even TailsTube shows her still being antagonistic with Tangle
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>>564304720
Funny because AI replaces white collars way faster than blue collars, so it's replacing components at the top of the pyramids and could likely tell every executive to fuck off.
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Boy!
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Remember, Remember,
The Station of Square...
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>>564304857
Did he reply?
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>>564304867
Personally speaking, as the anon you're replying to, I think it's fine to keep it off-screen or in supplementary material but just acknowledge their general relationship as not serious but close and exploratory. I think it's fun if they enjoy each other's company but Amy keeps up the chase and continues to work at bettering herself to try and live life alongside Sonic without tying him down. Sonic is absolutely the kind of person that can relax and take things slow, but it's not very exciting game content and it'd probably cause a lot of shitflinging among the comic audience. And he really doesn't have any committed feelings for Amy. He goes on dates with her because they sound fun, even if (as in the Sonic Channel story) he kind of regrets agreeing so quickly.

I like the Amy/Sonic dynamic as it is (or at least was) and have no real desire to see it go any further.
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>>564304857
Don’t beat up on Gabs. Thanks to her, Sega found out about Ian’s Bumblekast and ordered him to scale it back and to stop giving out information for payment
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Plapping the bat
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>>564305270
he did
>>564304857
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>>564305993
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>>564304857
Silvazefags really don't get that Silver and Blaze are supposed to be two separate things and not Silver being part of Blaze's world.
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>>564306042
>Nishiyama: "silvaze? umm uhhhhh i... i can't answer individual questions... ugh..."
I kek
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>>564306042
Why is Sega so miserable
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Every time Gabe tries to force Silver into a Blaze conversation she reminds me of Sonallyfags. Maybe all shippers are annoying pushy retards.
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>>564306204
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESmYgyiHPG0

>>564305675
Tomii Pepe
https://x.com/tomii_pepe
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>>564304867
That would be OOC.
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everytime sonamyfags try to turn sonic into their gentle shy boy I feel Naka's rage
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which oc should I fap to today
I did cigs yesterday no repeats
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>>564306390
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>>564306520
>everytime sonamyfags try to turn sonic into their gentle shy boy
Archie is not canon
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What is the inspect element thing spergs try to use as a gotcha?
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>>564306673
of course. neither is sonamy
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>>564306659
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>>564306312
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He's edgy and cool now
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>>564305512
The “going on relaxing dates” thing works better in animations and comics but could also be used in the games if they had a feature that lets you hang out with other characters. If you were playing as Sonic and chose to hang out with Amy/vice versa, you could go on a date and if you decide to rest somewhere relaxing and calm, it would trigger idle dialogue and animations.
Sonic’s love for Amy ought to be fully sincere. Not half-hearted.
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>>564306042
>straying as far away from shipping as possible
Good lad
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>>564306871
>>564306042
I can feel Nishiyama's disgust at Shitver deep in my soul
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>>564306871
>I might have missed something but who is that guy that Blaze is hanging around and what are they even doing?
>explanation session later
>how the fuck is that tanabata?
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I'm not seeing any evidence that Sonamyfags understand Sonic's character more than Sonally fags. In fact they seem to insist on the exact same things and don't really care about if Sonic is in-character. The only difference is the design of the girl.
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>>564306895
>it would trigger idle dialogue and animations.
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>>564306525
suck
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Where the fuck can I read the full interview?
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>>564306769
No one's going to answer?
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>>564307231
Yep, that's basically it. They could've been right 20 years ago, but now it's clear as day that Sonic doesn't want to engage in romance and doesn't like Amy that way, he sees her as a friend. Yet Sonamy fans keep denying it.
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>>564307231
all conversation i have had with so far everywhere were about amy and how it benefits amy. they don't give a crap about sonic. they only care about their pink self insert
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>>564307231
Archie is still not canon
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>>564306895
>Sonic’s love for Amy ought to be fully sincere. Not half-hearted.
But that's not how Sonic is written. He likes hanging out with Amy and he gets a little shy when asked what their relationship is, but he's not the type to commit like that. Boy's heart and such.
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>>564307502
>now it's clear as day that Sonic doesn't want to engage in romance and doesn't like Amy that way, he sees her as a friend
Bait
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>>564307683
>>564307719
>huffs the copium
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>>564307719
Where is the lie
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>>564307760
Duo...
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>>564307502
>but now it's clear as day that Sonic doesn't want to engage in romance and doesn't like Amy that way
This mindbreaks shiptards
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>>564306450
you legend thankyou!
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>>564307828
Play the games.
>>564307861
Samefag
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Game over!

Try again?
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>>564308015
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>>564307859
Not your funny friend. I am someone much worse.
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>>564308015
Which games?
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Suck it, Nishiyama-sama!
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>>564308107
But I thought you hated Ian Flynn's OOC slop
More proof that you don't give a crap about Sonic and only select whatever suits your agenda even if OOC
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>>564307263
I was thinking of Sonic and Amy holding hands snd talking romantically if you decide to let them sit idly somewhere.

>>564307502
You’re going to forget about those idle voice lines in Frontiers?

>>564307535
It would benefit Sonic too by letting him enjoy mundane things in life

>>564307683
Either you love a girl or you don’t. No in between. Sonic needs to pick one
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>>564308297
I thought the breath was his bone sticking out of his arm.
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>>564308198
Sonic's green wife
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>>564308439
>Either you love a girl or you don’t. No in between. Sonic needs to pick one
Anon...
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>>564308360
I do, but Ian didn't write those lines by his own admission. Kishimoto most likely did.
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>>564308439
>It would benefit Sonic too by letting him enjoy mundane things in life
that's not what Sonic does. you can do that plot with Shadow. since Maria used to talk to him about the fun shit to do on earth or whatever. but not with Sonic. Sonic haves his own fun his own way
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>>564308442
Grim
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>>564307502
I think you would need a different interpretation of Sonic to make Sonamy work, that is not the one from the games.

It's 30+ years of not the even slight romantic atmosphere in their scenes together
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>>564308360
Based Kishimoto
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Shadally Sonurge Silvouge
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>>564308360
>Ian Flynn's OOC slop
There's quite a bit of that here, weirdly >>564306470
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>>564308264
The Ship for Superior People
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>>564307102
>how the fuck is that tanabata
Silver = Iblis (bull horns) fighting Warrior of the future = Cow herder of Altair
Blaze = Burning Princess of the Sol dimension = Weaving Princess of Vega
06's ending = Separation of the princess and herder for shirking their duties
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>>564308439
>It would benefit Sonic too by letting him enjoy mundane things in life
Doesn't Sonic do that already? He likes to spend time in nature and relax
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>>564308653
>but not with Sonic. Sonic haves his own fun his own way
Sonic literally chills by the beach and checks out the sights wherever he's at. He does a lot of mundane shit. He's a drifter, not some weirdo. He's like those van life guys or those gigachads who own their own boats.
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Sonamyfags keep using the argument that Yuji Naka didn't create Sonic singlehandedly but Naoto Oshima didn't work on SA2, Heroes, Shadow, and 06 like Naka did. Are you going to say those games are OOC?
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>>564308816
All based
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>>564309009
Can you dumb niggers stop talking about this already?
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SEGA won't have their mascot characters in a relationship ever, but they will keep cockteasing Sonamy and not your favorite OOC ship!
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>>564309009
There's no conflict with those games and how things work before them unless you count mistranslations in Heroes.
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>>564308854
Sonaze is Tanabata in that they were seperated but meet occasionally after. Silvaze has them forget who each other are and they interact later just because with no fanfare.
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>>564309105
You understand SEGA,
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JP SHADE LUV KNUCKKU
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>>564309009
Sonic doesn't need someone to help him enjoy mundane shit. Shadow does. Sonic has his own fun his own way. leave Sonic alone and go ship shadamy or whatever. BESTIE
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^-^
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>>564309231
Nice try, Shadamyfag.
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>Tanabata is slop
>Anyway we own Tanabata
Blazefags...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVNAHe1ZjPc
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>>564309378
>hah! you must be shadamyfag! you are telling me to go ship shadamy
take your bestie meds
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Sage and Belle have a mind link ability
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>>564309394
>Anyway we own Tanabata
No one said that, schizo
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>>564308592
Lame trope. Just an excuse to not actually put in the effort to write an actual romance

>>564309105
Sega is greedy and loves money and they see money to be made with movie 4 and a romance-based year of Amy. Their greed will make them give in
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>>564309512
Duo... Sonougefag... Shadamyfag... Sonurgefag... Boogeyman...
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>>564309517
Man that's cool but I really don't care about those characters
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>>564309517
That's cool
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>>564309623
anon the human man...
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>>564309161
>>564309394
Blazefags just want Blaze to suck Sonic's dick instead of Silver's, that's literally it. They don't give a shit about her beyond shipping bait
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i ate too much during easter and still havent burned it
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>>564309793
You can be a mentor to someone and still be shipped with them.
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>>564309793
Blaze from Rush, her creator doesn't even acknowledges Silver in her story.
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>>564304857
Every one of Gab's posts under anything about Blaze is always
>how can I make this about silvaze
And I find that so incredible sad how desperate she is to make Blaze's existence revolve and bend around Silver
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>>564309517
Evan keeps forcing her pet OC to be relevant as if people still care about her
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>>564310039
Kat mogging Ebony and Lanolin as per request.
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>>564308849
Damn, my crop didn't upload because it was Too Superior, here's an inferior low-quality version I guess
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>>564309995
unlike Blazefags who tries to make Blaze's existence revolve and bend around Sonic
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>>564310280
Don't fucking speak for me, sonazefags are fake blazefags just as much as silvazefags. Slopaze in both directions, get that shit out
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>>564306450
Heh.
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Westies trying to push fangames and mania over jap kino is sad.
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Average sonazefag is always we love sonic rush but never rush adventure, they love talking about the parallels of sonic and blaze but can't remember a detail of the sol dimension, sonazefags love to pretend Marine doesn't exist and then try to shackle Cream to Blaze to keep her hanging around in Sonic's dimension and forfeit Team Rose. Do not ever call sonaze slopfestfags blazefags, they're fakers just as much as the white demon worshippers that try to shackle blaze to silver's future
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>>564308264
>>564310143
Nah, let's go back to the crack HonJinx, I wanna see how the story ends.
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>>564304857
Yeah, from what he is saying, the translation of this seems a bit off.
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>>564309517
I don't think archiefags would like to hear it, but I think Belle is being setup to be put into a Nicole type purpose in the future. Team Sonic's personal ai to Eggman's
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YUJI BAKA SANK MY SHIP AND I CANT SELF INSERT
AAIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>564311163
>unironic wojak posting
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Shadow kills Black Doom but not Eggman?
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Krack is the most based person on sthg
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Duo is the most based person on sthg
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>>564311428
YUJI BAKA SANK MY SHIP AND I CAN'T SELF INSERT
AAIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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does someone have that image of uwuver trying to hug fatsper but respecting her personal space
it was done by krack btw
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>>564290528
Hey, did BBA forget to put this one up at the booru? I don't see it there yet.
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Pretty clever of the writer to give Sonic minimal screentime and dialogue in this issue so that they don't get yelled at for mischaracterization
I guess this also confirms that the 3 issue arc mandate is true. Second time in a row the crisis lasted exactly 3 issues
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>>564309161
Sonic isn't a cow herder stand in and he isn't celestial themed. Silver fighting Iblis and Ifrit is a stand-in for Hikoboshi's cow herding duties and his Future is a stand in for Altair. Sonic doesn't have duty like Silver does in 06 which is part of the separation.
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>>564311803
i haven't seen any of his previous requests there at all...
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>>564310039
OR here, thanks!
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So it's Starline back from the dead. Duh
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>>564311908
"Who the FUCK is Silver"
- Akinori Nishiyama
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>>564309427
You know that's in the OP right?
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>>564304857
>Any topic that has Blaze in it.
>"BUT WHAT ABOUT SILVER?!"
Someone at Sega should just give Nakamura the funding to make his faggot Silver game and give him his own cast so he can stop mooching off of other characters already.
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>>564306390
Moewdow... Nyadow.. The ultimate catform...
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>>564312129
No problem, boobs of steel are always welcome.
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>>564306390
PSPSPSPSPSPS
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They're blue balling us in this issue about the identity of the villain
As well as, the next issue is in june to give space for DC x crossover
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>>564308439
>Muh Oooogies
Everytime
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>>564312839
>They're blue balling us in this issue about the identity of the villain
Blue balling my ass
the starline zombie design was leaked in twitter way before this issue got out so this already comfirms that it starline again.
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>>564310039
siiiiiick
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>>564312559
Frankly, Blaze is the one doing the mooching. Silver is a much more popular character.
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Who's the new villain?
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>>564312839
It's Starline, Sage said the only culprit is dead. That means it's Starline
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>>564312964
The Zombie design was in the concept art book

>>564313250
We still don't know yet, probably Starline again
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Bun!
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>>564311929
I see them, you just have to look through character or request tags. I guess a blueboardanon tag should be added since the new pic was signed as BBA?
https://sthg.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=19563
This was the last pic until the previous thread, pretty sure.
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>>564312839
>giant star
>sonic recognizes the villain
>brainwashed to forget
>Sage says the only thing the being resembles is someone who has perished
They're being blatant as fuck
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>>564313441
Ok but what does zombie Starline exactly offer to the cast?
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Hope it's Chadfinite
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>>564312839
>>564312964
>>564313301
I think they're falseflagging with it being Starline. I think it's going to be a villain connected to him or something created by him as a backup if he died (basically an AI Starline).
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I'M GONNA STICK THIS IN YOUR ASS, SONIC
GET SCREWED
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>>564313646
An extra villain that isn't completely retarded and gives Surge and Kit their sonic heroes third mate and possibly is a gateway to let them become real villains or antagonists again
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>>564313481
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/559627808/#559640649
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/561352718/#561363230
these two are missing
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>>564313732
This is a comic for stupid babies who think Eggman can be redeemed. It's going to be Starline.
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>>564313769
why the fuck would Surge and Kit team up with Starline again did you miss the part they fucking hate him? If anything he's gonna be their worst nemesis
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>>564311929
>>564313481
Not them but you can also find them on archives, filename: request s[number]lowq
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>>564313732
>>564313839
Remember when people genuinely argued that Lanolin could be mimic and that they weren't actually being that obvious with Mimic
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>>564313737
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>>564309229
How long ago was this drawn up in japan? Because Shade would never appear now I wonder how her OG creator feels knowing thanks to a stunted man child merican she's never gonna show up ever again
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Ah, obvious villain reveals gives me nostalgia for Obito.
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>>564313929
Did you miss the part where Starline brainwashed and manipulated them several times
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you're so fucking stupdu
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>>564314032
Shade's last manga appearance is post 2010. There are advertisements for Pokemon gen 5 in between the pages.
She is the first western character to appear in JP stuff isn't she?
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>>564313680
>Hope it's Chadfinite
Anon IDW isn't allowed to change the main cast or give them a story focused arc
so it very obvious at this point that it gonna be a OC villian and not infinite.
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>>564313956
That was retarded because we saw him become Duo
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>>564314103
Why would you want their characters to return back to zero
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>>564308439
Sonic already appreciates the mundane things in life without Amy. He loves the earth as whole as much as he loves adventure.
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Im just waiting for the Tails raping issue
We need realistic despictions of rape.
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>>564312623
I like you.
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>>564314329
He would enjoy those things even more with Amy next to him
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Amy would slow Sonic down unlike Surge
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>>564314329
What Sonic likes is playing therapist, make Amy more deranged and he will like her more
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>>564314324
Are they actually developing or is it a false hope of light for them at the end of the tunnel? Surge wants to become a hero to best sonic and Kit goes along with it to help her, at the end of the day, they're still slaves to Starline's programming and trapped in the same cycle as him. Its perfectly fitting for all three characters to bring them all back to zero
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>>564314370
They can't do that as Sega has deemed the name "cucky" offensive and Ian flynn refuses to call him "clucky" as it ruins the integrity and foundation this franchise rests on.
I was honestly shock to see Ian this passionate about cucky's name and origins, and how it really elevates the sarrow of the Tails rape issue.
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>>564314546
Surge would kill Sonic
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It's so flattering to hear Eggman and Sage talk about how smort Tails is
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>>564314592
I like you.
If Amy is gonna change character we might as well give her schizophrenia and other mental illnesses, and a fatish for bare hands.
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>>564314681
No it would be god awful, prove they accomplished nothing and their characters are a waste of time. The only thing that could redeem this is if Starline is just this fantastic of a villain and it's painted as a dark story about meticulous and brutal manipulation which IDW is too kiddie to do
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Imagine trusting Ian redeemnic flynn
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>>564314827
>their characters are a waste of time
That's always what they've been at their core though. From the start with Starline himself being a lesser Eggman, to Surge being a lesser Sonic and Kit being a lesser Tails. They're whole existence is founded on meta analysis of the main characters very literally as it gets brought up that way in their arcs, and trying to replicate them and failing to do so while getting trapped in the very cycle they try to break and that becoming their own cycle. Its tragic as it is fitting
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>>564286368
>Just enter the code for Robotnik on easy, it take three seconds.
that still leads me to playing the game for 3 seconds
i don't want to play the game. i want to non-play it
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>>564313956
No, I don't. I remember more people thinking Lanolin secretly worked for Clutch.
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Cute nerrrrrrd
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>>564315181
Imagine what his farts smell like
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>>564314051
A proper Obito equivalent would be someone like Maria coming back as a villain.
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>>564310039
>Ugh they’re so obviously fake…
>Yet your envy is 100% real.
>*Dammit I knew I shouldn’t have shaved this morning*
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>>564315279
No
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>>564313737
Remember Chuck Thorndyke actually did this on a TV-Y7 show
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>>564315310
That's the kind of thing Archie would have done
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>>564306390
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>>564315589
Archie would've just made it Maria's mom or long lost sister or something.
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Seems like Charmy's ability is getting nerfed. I hope they give compensation
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Amy canonically does shave her pussy, she's not a kid anymore, so she now has a jungle of a bush down there. And it smells like fish but she insists it adds flavor.
Rouge trims it, she likes a healthy amount hair for a mature and clean look. Smell clean like water.
Wave keeps it shaved completely. Not much smell.
Blaze just doesn't have pubes naturally alongside her itty bitty kitty titties. Smells like she masturbated 27 times in the last second you looked away from her.
Vanilla has a big bush but she keeps in clean. Smells like Cinnamon.
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>>564314698
>The only character Ian cares about keeping in-character is this fucking chicken.
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>>564315045
outside of the world of sonic that's what they are sure but to properly intergrate them into the world as their own they must change beyond their mind rape by starline for that to happen Starline himself must also change beyond his defeat at Eggman's hands and his "death" what happens to Starline after this now that he has Sage will show case the direction Sega has in mind for him, Surge and Kit lind like how the warp topez was spared confirmed destruction and Infinite was brough back from the death years ago around 2 years ago in private and released to the public only now which means while the story of Shadow Fall was canceled for public release the actual story has not faded it simply means whatever the plot they have there will be held back for a few years just like how fucking long it took for professor victoria, she was created fucking six years ago, officially revealed 4 years ago, officially voiced 2 years ago officially revealed with said voice this fucking year. I don't know exactly understand the plotting stage, the planning stage, the execution stage and the public reveal stage sega operates on but it takes a long fucking time to get everything out the door, Sage's official indoctrination into the world of IDW likely operates under the same rules, we're likely reading a story that was written years ago only now being publicized
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>>564316098
Ian relates to his desire to rape and cum until it is done...
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She's right
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I still hate Mania and fanshit
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>when you devote your entire life around an edgy version of mickey mouse to make it your own personal capeshit
>but years later it gets shut down and erased from collective memory, replaced by hello kitty for boys with 500 mandates so no more AI lesbians for your personal reddit ego
>on top of it, you can't do any other job but writing for hello kitty now
>so you start to do the bare minimum waiting for either your other indie comic is taken seriously in a landfill of better written slop, or for edgy mickey mouse to let you free writing any bullshit as they once did
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>>564316274
A broken clock is right twice a day.
Krack is still a faggot.
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>>564316274
Every time someone posts one of krack's posts here, I think a little more than krack might actually be based.
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>>564316274
If Sonic is so japanese why is it a flop in japan?
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>>564316274
This bitch likes Mania, not a real purist
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>>564316420
Japanese people never got to see Sonic's fully erect penis.
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>>564316274
So is the "west is shit" and "kill westies" poster? That would explain she hasnt posted Shitdria as much
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>>564316420
It happens. See also:
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>>564316420
Japan likes short cute stubby mascot characters and Sonic is not
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>>564316274
Sonic didn't succeed in the west because Sega knew what they were doing. Their opinion of what Sonic should be is irrelevant
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>>564316274
Why would a real based white person don't approve colonialism and simp for the japanese?
Sounds leftist behavior.
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Sonic is a weeb franchise for the west.
Sonic not being Japanese ruins the weeb appeal of Micky mouse going on anime adventures.
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>>564316420
Because it's a rundown dead franchise.
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>>564309517
Post the rest you doublenigger
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>>564316274
I love you Krack!
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Fans are not the problem. The inaccuracies between the eastern and western versions are translation and distribution errors that need to be corrected at the source
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>when i post something to get (You)s but suddenly here comes the fucking niggerfaggot reposting a twitter screenshot of krack so i'm completely ignored
I hope you people get an even gayer and senile version of sonic.
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>Sonic X ep 3
might this guy be Omega's prototype? Cause Eggman just called him E-123
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>>564316754
Japan also likes myths of demons who tear out men's souls out of their anuses that's not an excuse
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How do we kill krack
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>>564316931
Yes, they are.
Mania and SBR2 are as bad as IDW and Archie.
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>>564317071
with a gun
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>>564316823
The changes SoA made to Sonic in the west in the 90s had very little top do with why it was successful and we know this because the version of Sonic that had actual legs and staying power was the Japanese version.
the Sonic Fad era flamed out after a year and a half.
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>>564316931
I hate those discrepancies so much. We were expecting script consistency due to Sonic Team’s restructuring but we never got it. We need to complain about this to Sega of Japan with a customer feedback ticket. It’s the only way they’ll listen
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>>564317019
I think all of Eggman's robots of the day in season 1 are considered part of the E-100 series
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>>564316931
It's not errors, it's completely intentional changes by the west to turn Sonic into their own liking
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>>564317019
Was it actually called that?
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>>564317019
Missile Wrist is E-23, not 123.
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>>564317226
>the version of Sonic that had actual legs and staying power was the Japanese version.
You mean the version that crashed and burned after Sega left the console market until it reached utter rock bottom with 06 and Sonic became the butt of the joke of the gaming world?
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>>564317290
The west can only have power if it is given to them by the east
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>krack posted?
>KRACK POSTED?
>KRACK HAS OPINIONS??!? NANNAGAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>564317371
gotcha
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If you're not a JP purist can you actually name a single western characterization change that you consider good?
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>>564317019
I really like that there's a consistency with a lot of the early "elite" badnik designs, especially the E-series and the buildup to it, but I hate that X just made anything and everything E-series.
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Krackqueen
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>>564317417
>You mean the version that crashed and burned after Sega left the console market
You mean the one that continued to thrive after they left the console market? Really suplimenting my theory that consolefaggotry and burgernicfaggotry are highly correlated.
The reality is Sonic didn't need console exclusivity because he was and still is that strong. SoA were the ones that needed Sonic.
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>>564317417
The version that's been around for nearly 26 years in the west now? The American "canon" only lasted for 6-7 years max.
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>>564317226
All the cool Sonic vibes and Mario rivalry is from SoA's marketing team, and they have more legs than classic Sonic lmao
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>>564317429
What if it’s the case that Takashi Iizuka and the rest aren’t paying enough attention to SOA?
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they're gonna give Knuckles' personality to Shadow since they can't bring Knuckles along without coming up some half-assed excuse to get him away from the ME
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>>564310093
How do you expect these characters to have any development if you bitch every time they get development?
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jesus christ i wish i'm still a 12 years old retard watching sonic x edits on youtube
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>>564317872
Iizuka doesn't care because he doesn't have a vision. The west started taking control the moment he became leader of Sonic Team.
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>>564317552
Apparently the name Miles Prower was made up by a western dev. I like the name Miles.
I like Sonic being a bit more cocky and dropping the occasional (heavy emphasis on occasional) one-liner.
Many things.
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>>564318025
>edits
you mean amvs...
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>>564317915
Shadow isn't a meathead like Knuckes
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>>564317872
If it is the case, then they (Iizuka) aren't doing their job to keep the synergy plan in place as the western market is bigger
If it isn't the case, then everything is being done with their (Iizuka's) blessing
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>>564317932
Her characters are lame. Nobody cares about their "development" and even Evan knows that and that's why she got passive aggressive over people not liking Belle that time.
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>>564318069
i call them edits cuz i'm esl, what are those? musical videos?
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>>564317763
>Mario rivalry
I hate this. It holds the series back. This vestigial element overshadows the actual substance and merits of the series too much even to this day when consolefaggotry is old hat anyway.

>cool Sonic vibes
That's simply untrue. I suspect they influenced Sonic to be more skaterboi, which I like, but most of the things they added to him made him a fucking poochie.
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>>564318063
Miles Prower was Japanese, Tails was the name made by the west.
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>>564317741
>Thrive
>going strong
Japschizos must live in a parallel dimension. Sonic became garbage.
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>>564317741
Fuck off Nintendo faggot.
Sega should never released games in your shitty underpowered consoles
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>>564318187
We can tell that "synergy" crap was thrown out the window when the Lore Faggot Team said Blade of Courage wasn't canon.
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>>564318325
yes
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>>564317932
I don't want Belle in the comic, period. I want the comic to actually be about adventures with the game cast, not the OCs they keep shitting out
That's why the Classic IDW comics are way better because those are actually about adventures with the game cast, not showing in creators pet OCs that takes up all the spotlight
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>>564318406
>skipping the entire era before SA1 where Sonic was shit.
everytime. Consoleshitters only owned the Genesis and only played Sonic 2, and since the internet wasn't widespread like it is now, the cruised through the entire classic darkage.

>>564318441
I game on PC, loser.
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>>564318492
I wonder what Yuuki Imada thinks of this
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>>564318056
This is why we need to contact SOJ and demand they put a leash on SOA

>>564318187
It would be the worst thing for Takashi Iizuka to be allowing SOA to be ruining the franchise with his approval. It would be an utter betrayal to the fans who have been demanding quality and consistency
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>>564318492
>Ian Flynn: "I-I see... an up-and-comer... I'd love to... 'work' with him..."
>Yuki Imada: *'collaborates' with Ian Flynn on the CrossWorlds manga by eviscerating all the dialogue*
>Ian Flynn: (Fuck, this guy's untennable! Code Red! Nuclear Option, guys! N-NON-CANON!)
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>>564318406
>mainline
>Rise of Lyric
???
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>>564318786
Probably doesn't care.
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>>564318734
And yet you defend OC shit like Yutta
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>>564318783
Sonic was literally only good during the Genesis.
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>>564318891
Perks of being xenophobic
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>>564318941
I don't know who Yutta is
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>>564310462
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I'm doubting it's Starline because they're not allowed to change the characters from their initial designs and shticks and the OCs aren aren't exempt from this.
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Sage is happy that Belle sees her as a sister!!!!!!!!!! That's so cute!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>564319096
Proof?
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>>564319192
Someone on IDW said it. I THINK it concerned Lanolin when they finalized her design to become a character.
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>>564319316
sauce?
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>>564319343
Eh, I don't buy it.
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>>564319083
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>>564319030
The games that sold well on genesis sold well because they were pack-in games.
It was fad sales.
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>>564318734
>That's why the Classic IDW comics are way better because those are actually about adventures with the game cast, not showing in creators pet OCs that takes up all the spotlight
Anon classic has no story and no character development and you are limited to only use eggman and metal sonic do you really want this over the modern sonic ?
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>metal sonic believes he is the original in the west
>He knows he is a copy in Japan
Purists will try to tell you the japanese one is better. Don't believe their lies. They are boring. Hive mind mentality that makes them unable to think for themselves
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>>564319535
More beloved than 00s slop
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>>564318734
IDW Classic is boring as all fuck because they literally do nothing but run around a forest and state their character traits
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>>564319562
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>i love the real Sonic
>genesis games are a fad
What did jptrannies mean by this?
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>>564319096
I'm still holding out for Scrapnik Shinobi, guys...
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>>564319595
Metal knows he is a copy in both. He has a complex about being a copy. he doesn't literally think he is Sonic T. Hedgehog. Its a coping mechnism.
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>>564319535
What even is this point you're trying to make? That Sonic was always bad? And you call yourself a Sonic fan?
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>>564319096
Anon they are allowed to change the OC's design
the only thing they are not allowed to change is the Main characters designs and that it.
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Surge is being promoted as a sonic-like in official capacity. It's not an accident they promote her with Shadow and Metal Sonic. She has usurped Blaze as the sonic-like rival girl
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>>564319791
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>>564319817
Sonic 3 and Knuckles combined sales don't even compare to Sonic 1 and 2s despite by and far being the superior game(s) because the fad was dying. it's not about whether the games were good. It's about perspective.
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>>564309229
Shade was the most Sonic Team ever invested in a western OC before IDW
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>>564309517
woodchipper soon
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>>564319912
Weeb autists unfortunately don't understand subtlety, you kind of just have to hope they grow up a little...
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>>564319985
>Anon they are allowed to change the OC's design
I'm pretty sure they can't.
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>>564320115
Combined it's the third best selling Genesis game
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>>564319914
see>>564320115
I'm saying SoA's version of Sonic had little to nothing to do with the success of the series back then. I didn't say anything about the quality of the actual games or series, dummy.
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>>564319912
In the west he says " my loathsome copy" and in Japan "my loathsome other self". "Copy" implies metal thinks he is the original, the japanese one doesn't. It's a small detail, but many of Metal's fanarts are made with the western one in mind
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>>564320086
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>>564319096
They are if it's technically a new version of the character. It's been years since Starline was declared deceased, so there's nothing really established around that design anymore. If this becomes the Starline that's a more permanent addition to the series, then this design will be the one that's not allowed to change going forward and how he will appear in everything
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I have already started to write up a customer feedback ticket for SOJ to tell them that the lore team and possibly SOA higher ups are corrupting Amy’s character and portraying it in a way that does not match her Japanese character. I’m also going to tell them that the fans hate this, that they want the English and Japanese game scripts to be similar in wording for the sake of having a consistent narrative and consistent characterization, and that this needs strict oversight from SOJ.

I strongly urge you guys to do this as well. This habit of SOA changing and ruining things cannot keep going on. Let your voices be heard
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>>564320309
... honestly I think I prefer the western version where he's completely delusional. I find it more interesting that way. But both versions work
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>>564320269
>needing 2 games to accomplish that feat.
SoA was being carried by Sonic, appealed to short term fad tactics instead of long term planning, and flamed the series out.
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>>564320320
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>>564319536
>>564319652
I just want fun cool episodic adventures with Sonic and friends just like the games. That's why I like Scrapnik Island, it's the closest the comic ever got to have a story that feels like it could take place in the game universe
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I read the issue and Sonic apparently saw who the mystery villain is, but didn't tell anyone?
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>>564318325
anime music video, yes
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>>564311163
>SIMA
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>>564320502
Like SOJ did with the 00s games, right?
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>>564320418
You're wasting your time but whatever you do you

>>564320502
Yeah they needed two games because Sonic 3 missed the 1993 Christmas window where people spend more and Sonic & Knuckles had to compete against Donkey Kong Country. Also Sonic 1 and 2 (to a lesser extent but still) were often bundled with the Genesis
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>>564320606
He got memory wiped
An ability a certain platypus has been shown to do numerous times
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>>564320289
How does that sustain your point in any shape or form
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>>564320309
Its negligibly different. Other self comes with the implication that Sonic is an imposter or that both are vying for authenticity of some kind regardless.

Him thinking he is literally Sonic T Hedgehog doesn't make sense. He isn't trying to save the world or sightseeing, etc.
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>>564320309
He still says things in the western translations that indicate that he's aware he isn't the original. He even still calls himself "Metal" Sonic and not just "Sonic".
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>>564314051
Now we need a Madara x Hashirama moment in Sonic because apparently even One Piece is going to pull that shit next.
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>>564316274
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>>564320418 (me)
Make sure to take screenshots of dialogue and character differences and of fans complaining about them. Include links to YouTube videos as well. It will strengthen your case.
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Hey there kidz
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>>564320825
There is literally only two roads with this villain and it's either that he's just Starline or they're gonna do that subversive crap and act clever.
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>>564320475
>I honestly prefer to change the true intention into my own liking because I prefer my own headcanon
spoken like a true SoA executive
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>>564316274
>tranny
>worships japslop
>pretends japnic ever had a consistent vision and isn't a writhing mass of retcons
WestGODS won.
Buttkrack tranny lost.
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>>564320115
That's like saying Super Mario Bros 3 was a massive failure because it sold 50% less than Super Mario Bros 1 for the NES despite selling like 17 million copies and released super late into the NES' life when the 16-bit generation had already launched
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>>564321135
>they're gonna do that subversive crap and act clever
When has idw actually ever done that?
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>>564319078
The one from the Blade of Courage manga, for reference.
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>>564320115
S3&K is noticably worse than S2, which makes sense, because it had less Western influence. The seeds of SoJ's arrogance and the ongoing failure of the franchise can be seen there, culminating in Advenshit driving the company to bankruptcy.
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>>564321509
IDW has never subverted any trope
It didn't successfuly write any trope either
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>Write a game once
>Become the best selling Sonic game in decades
>/sthg/ he won't write frontiers 2
AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAGAGAHA
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>>564320767
Its not even about the 2000s games. All the elements of Sonic that are actually iconic came from the Japanese version of the character. That doesn't mean SoA contributed nothing or that everything SoJ did was perfect mind you. IDGAF about that. But all the elements that had legs came from the Japanese version of the character and brand. Even insofar as the Classics in the 90s are concerned.

>>564320857
The argument often made is that Sonic was more successful when SoA hand more of a grip on the series by pointing to the sales of the genesis games.
My point is that the things that actually lasted, (Sonic's design, concept, character(s), etc that actually had legs and stood the test of time were from the japanese version of the character, and any conflation with the Western version is confounded by other factors and peaked and crashed very quickly by comparison.
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>>564321541
Oh that guy, I don't like him either but he's a necessary evil or else the manga has no story
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Sonic CD is the most purely japanese game of the main Genesis games and coincidentally it's also the worst
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Why do twitterfags think every act of masculinity in the series is misogyny
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>>564321637
So why are we even thinking they could do that? Ffs the villain has extra cameras on Surge and Kit, it can't be anymore on the nose
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I like Sonic Frontiers dialogue and I like Sonic's deep frontiers voice
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>>564320418
>I’m also going to tell them that the fans hate this
Why are you lying to them? The only people who care about Amy are nonfans who hate Sonic games.
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>>564321792
This also a west game called Doom mogged it so hard in 1993
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The 90s were prestigious, and fascinatingly focused on giving Sonic a background and lore so early one with their own bells and twists. I love the SOA bibles we got so far, the deeper trivia on Sonic and FFs, and I'm pretty passionate with Archie taking SatAM torch and extending/twisting it further into its charm. I love Acorn Kingdom's set up and the rest of Mobius, full of sci-fi and medieval stuff.

Makes me wish Sonic were just like Megaman, with letting interpretations of Sonic running on their own and giving no hecks on k'an-num.

90s old west Sonic is vastly underappreciated and it bums me out not so many take mind in it.
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>>564321408
>That's like saying Super Mario Bros 3 was a massive failure becau
I didn't say it was a failure. I said you can't correlate the sales of the game with the quality of the games or SoA's version of the character and series being more prominent or not. It's weak correlative factors in regards to the success of the brand at the time.
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Amy along with the freedom fighters are almost completely absent from 2000s Sonic fan animations unless they're shipping or porn or expressly mocking them
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>>564320581
>I just want fun cool episodic adventures with Sonic and friends just like the games.
Yes, I know, but it wouldn't work for several reasons.

One is that classic Sonic can't create new villains and can only use Metal and Eggman for the rest of the comic book's history.

Another is that the world of classic Sonic is very small and there's almost nothing fun or interesting to explore in it compared to the world of modern Sonic.
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>>564321710
If he’s going to write Frontiers 2, then SOJ needs to put a tight leash on him and they need to make the Japanese and English scripts similar
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I don't care about Sonic Frontiers dialogue and I hate Sonic's deep frontiers voice
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>>564321767
Ah yes, the iconic elements like "Nicky," "Tania," "Witchcart..." as opposed to those non-enduring elements like Sonic and Tails' brotherly relationship, chili dogs, Robotnik and roboticization.

>>564321792
No coincidence at all.
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>>564321796
>Why do twitter
stopped reading there
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>>564322127
Now we just lying. Amy was like, the main plot element on Final Fantasy Sonic X.
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>>564320880
>>564320881
The point is many people took the idea of Metal believing he is the original from here and they aren't going to change because of "b-but in Japan..." bullshit
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>>564322050
ROTOR IS LITERALLY USELESS! SALLY IS MORE CAPABLE WITH MACHINES
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>>564321909
>>564322218
Fat deku https://x.com/Gazungamer/status/2005339317569540413
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>>564322179
Agreed, they need to make it clear that Sonic doesn't like Amy, as in the Japanese script of Frontiers, instead of giving Amytroons false hope like he did in the English script. Trying to pander to Sonamy proves he doesn't understand Amy or Sonic's character.
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>>564322356
Violet!
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>>564322231
>elements like Sonic and Tails' brotherly relationship
That element is Japanese. It was baked into Tails from the very beginning by Yamaguchi and Naka
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Sally mogs Rotor
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>>564322376
Why was his voice perfect in Free Riders
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>>564322154
The world IDW created for modern Sonic is boring as shit with nothing but furries everywhere. That's why I like Scrapnik Island, a whole island of cool robots instead
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>>564322456
Cut it out with your bad bait
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Rotorfag rapes Violet everyday.
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>>564321767
>My point is that the things that actually lasted, (Sonic's design, concept, character(s), etc that actually had legs and stood the test of time were from the japanese version of the character
What about the short lived manga versions like Nicky from Shogakugan? That didn't survive the test of time at all compared to the western comics. Or the Dash & Spin comic. Those are purely japanese products that died and were mostly forgotten.
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>>564312440
He did kinda say this. lol
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>>564322231
How about Sonic being the worlds fastest hobo, turning into a supersaiyan when collecting the chaos emeralds, fighting giant robots and god monsters and running from the cops and association with House music vs Sonic turning blue from running on a treadmill and his name being Sonny or Eggman fusing with a literal rotten egg....

Ready to have a balanced conversation now?
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>>564322231
Roboticization was not an induring concept
stuff like chili dogs and Robotnik actually got adapted to the games
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Why do you keep calling it a universal translator when in the actual episode it's just an animal translator that translates to English
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>"THE IDW CHARACTERS ARE SO WORTHLESS, THE COMIC ONLY FOCUSES ON THE WIND, THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING!"
>"Okay, so we'll give them more storylines to flesh out their characters."
>"THE IDW OCS ARE SO FORCED, WHY DON'T THE COMICS FOCUS ON JUST THE WIND, REEEEEEE"
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>>564322664
You never know what you have until you lose it. Everyone bitched about how bad free riders sounded as the first game without the 4kids cast and now look where we're at
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>>564322974
>THE COMIC ONLY FOCUSES ON THE WIND
No one has ever fucking said this about IDW
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>>564322974
The only complaint I have ever heard similar to the top one is that Mimic and Surge are too weak to be taken seriously which is still a problem
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>>564323131
You retards were bitching years ago about how the new characters never got any focus, and now that they're getting focus, you're bitching that Sonic isn't getting more focus.
PICK A SIDE, MOTHERFUCKERS
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>>564322748
You people really don't know how to read.
I said, "the version of Sonic that had actual legs is the Japanese version.
I did not say "everything Sonic made in japan lasted the test of time".
Nicky never even made it stateside. Ofc it didn't have an impact at the time.
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Sonic was not successful as a japanese only franchise, and it was not successful as an american only product either. Only when these forces worked together in unison, as one, the True Sonic can thrive.
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>>564323276
>You retards were bitching years ago about how the new characters never got any focus
This has NEVER been the popular opinion on /sthg/.
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Why do jap purists turn a blind eye on Shogakugan when it's literally japanese Archie?
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>>564323276
I don't know what timeline you're from, this comic has been nothing but the OCs since Metal Virus and even Metal Virus had its fair share of shilling Tangle and Whisper. And IDW never had wind Sonic thats why we have people in this general still losing their mind over it to this day
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>>564323443
Don't get them started
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>>564323332
>I said, "the version of Sonic that had actual legs is the Japanese version.
WHAT is the Japanese Sonic?
You're going to have to elaborate clearly what you believe is SoJ Sonic and what do you think is SoA Sonic if you're going to selectively choose what has "actual legs"
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>>564323443
I think Nickyshit is gay as fuck and say as much every chance I get. fym.
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>>564319096
Less, "they are not allowed", more it has to be approved and it involves a lot of bureaucracy.

They have to make a strong case for change and it has to have a narrative/marketing purpose. As an example Scrapnik Mecha Knuckles is a drastic redesign of an established Modern character or the crying lesbians getting official riders outfits for a Riders story.
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>>564322456
Those Frontiers lines are in the Japanese script, too, though.
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>>564321710
Bro here better not be trying to say the game only sold well because Ian wrote it.
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>>564322009
So you’re saying if someone likes Amy as a character, that person is a fake fan? What a joke. Think before you speak
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I have never seen a JPfag who likes Nicky
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>>564322983
Amy and Jet's new voices are still awful and always have been tho
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>>564323351
We just need his boyfriend Barry, not that literally who Gadget
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>>564323628
How many chances do you get?
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>>564318941
Yuuta works because like Shahra, like Elise, like Merlina, like Chip, etc. Yuuta is the real main character of the story and that frees up Sonic to focus on being the walking deus ex machina he's supposed to be.
The idw oc's are tertiary Characters at best, they serve little actual purpose narratively beyond the knowing false promises of 'character development' that we know is never gonna happen
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>>564322337
Because he also does it in the west. So your argument is moot.
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>>564319096
>>564319343
Doesn't Lanolin only give more proof for why it can happen? Starline can change because simply put, the Starline we knew wasn't final. He died, that Starline wasn't permanent and however he comes back to life will be his permanent finalized design
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>>564323923
I see them quite often
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You guys are arguing about JP Sonic again so I'll just say Butch Hartman recently confirmed that the mother of Timmy's children in the movie is Vicky
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>>564323621SoJnic:" Free spirited adventurer who is like the wind, does what he thinks is right even when others thinks he is wrong, roams the world seeking thrills and sights and runs into Eggman and thwarts him when he causes trouble."

SoAnic: "Gotta SPEED KID + likes Chillidogs, muh freedom fighters, etc."
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>>564324110
Lanolin wasn't considered a character when she was in the background. She was given a default design when she was upgraded from that. Starline was a finalized character upon debut.
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>>564324021
No, it doesn't
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Sonaze is shit because the wind can only spread the fire which causes damage or extinguish it like a candle
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>>564324021
>Merlina
the only person Merlina has a conversation with in the entire fucking game is Sonic. She is not the protagonist. We don't even get her perspective until the final act.
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>>564322456
>>564323780
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBJ1oOmhHNw&t=831s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBJ1oOmhHNw&t=882s
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So Starline got crushed by falling debris and then just walked it off?
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amy rose is my wife
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Open the door
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>>564324447
>We don't even get her perspective until the final act.
That's not true. We have that moment with the flower prior to the finale.
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>>564324348
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>>564324306
>Starline was a finalized character upon debut.
But that character as we know it doesn't exist anymore, he died. Whatever Starline comes back as will basically be treated as a new character with a finalized design for how he'll be ongoing. It's the same idea
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>>564324348
Nope. They are not called mobians so I reject this advice. I separate the boys from the girls with TITTIES AND BUTTS thank you.
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>>564324491
We know, Sonic
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>>564324543
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>>564318941
Yuuta is one dude, not six or seven OCs hogging panel space. Once I see more OCs cluttering the manga, then we'll talk.
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>>564324489
Metal Virus, son.

I haven't read the issue yet.
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>>564324284
Explain which games comics and shows are one and which are the other
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>>564324489
I don't think so, otherwise why would he need a coffin and chaos emeralds? Somehow he's reviving himself so he probably has an accomplice
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>>564324504
STOP
DON'T LET THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS IN
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Why do IDW fans struggle to notice that Yuuta is basically just an excuse to make Sonic do badass things every single chapter while the Diamond Cutters just sit in therapy circles
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>>564324576
This is huge mental gymnastics because it's still supposed to be Starline.
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>>564324738
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>>564319426
nta but
https://inkbunny.net/s/3840445
https: slash slash ibb.co slash ZpH2r7JW
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>>564324865
You don't need to make a new character for that
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>>564324916
It's not like multiple forms for a character doesn't exist in this series
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>>564324761
Gay duck
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>>564324865
OCs like Lanolin literally exist to hate Sonic.
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>>564324447
You don't have to be the pov character to be the protagonist and you don't have to be the protagonist to be the main character of the story
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>>564323985
The CD adaptation wasn't a Nicky story but a Sonic one. The manga had 2 different continuities. One with Nicky's world, and one with Game Sonic.
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>>564325058
Lots of people hate Sonic.
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>>564325002
yah kinda do that's why Sonic's stories does it all the time
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>>564324785
Compare the description of Sonic in the English Sonic 1 manual versus his bio in pic related.

Or OVASonic Versus SatAM or AoStH Sonic.

Or IDW Sonic vs ArchieSonic.

>inb4these are different from eachother even within the groupings.

Missing the point. You can have different permutations of the idea of the character but its still the idea of the character.
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>>564324752
Yuuta comes with at least three OCs (him, Metstli, and Amo) that all have appeared before most of the game cast and take up more screen that the ones that have appeared.
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yea yea okay faggots its cool now WHAT THE, FUCK?!
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>>564325272
And Nicky's version.
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>>564325456
Archie Sonic isn't Sonic
SatAM Sonic isn't Sonic
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>>564324985
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>>564324143
No worries man. That's just how /sthg/ is, unfortunately.
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>>564325476
>Sonic kissing Amy
OOC
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>>564325441
I was actually hoping they stopped this time. We can have one or two main games without needing to add new characters. Focus on what we have already before introducing more random bullshit
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I have babysitting in an hour
Somehow I feel it's going to be alot like this
Help.
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>>564325058
Lanolin literally doesn't not hate Sonic in the comic. Only in ABT's fan fiction.
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>>564325456
forgot pic related
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>>564325472
>Metstli
His weapon.

>Amo
One of the major villains alongside Eggman.

You say this is the same as Tangle, Whisper, Lanolin, Surge, Kit, Belle, Nite, Don, Enigma, and Soleil?
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>>564325492
Cool. Was this difference based on the publisher? I know Corocoro and Shogakukan were both producing Sonic manga at the time.
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>>564325594
Cope. 2027 will bring you to your knees
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It is morally correct to mischaracterize western characters
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>>564325831
Werehog
Weog
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>>564322009
Fuck you. I've been in this clusterfuck of a fanbase longer than you've been alive
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>>564325784
https://forums.sonicretro.org/threads/finding-the-source-of-the-sonic-technical-files.41376/
Btw there's no source for this bio
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They cant make it more obvious
I know this is a comic for kids, but c'mon
The coffin was already too much
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>CD bad
Do westies really?
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>yes Sonic, it was me behind the cloak this entire time
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>>564325939
Yeah, all those characters bring their own supporting cast and personal villains to deal with. The only problem with the IDW cast is that their stories are continuous and of continue past a reasonable conclusion.
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>>564326092
Honestly I have a gut feeling that half the bible "leaks" are bullshit.
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>>564326270
I'm not going to give them flak for this one. This comic is aimed at the 8-12 bracket and is acting like it. It makes sense for mysteries like this to be obvious.
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>>564324143
You're one of the most mentally stable namefags around here Rotorfag. Makes me question why are you here when this is just a mental asylum
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>>564326334
shitstain americans mad the platformer requires platforming
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>>564325731
have sex with the parents to assert dominance
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I don't trust any Sonic characterization info unless Sparky says it first
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>>564325731
Make them play Sonic and create a new fag
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We arent even hyped for Frontiers 2
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>mania le good
Ameritrannies...
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>It was MEEEE Shadow! I left the Death leech on the ARK do Black Doom would return and you would face the pain of losing Maria and Gerald again! I did it!!!
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>>564326690
There's nothing to be hyped about they haven't revealed anything
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>>564326648
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>>564326797
one. name one game shitard team has made that's better than mania
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>>564326475
It is Rated for age 8-12 it's aimed at 20 something reddit users
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reminder that in the japanese manga shade beat the shit out of Sonic without breaking a sweat and then he started seething
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>>564326037
tangle if she good
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Sonic still better than westslop like Deus Ex
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>>564326850
Cute and canon.
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>>564326482
Of course Rotorfag is boring.
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>>564326850
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>>564316274
She's literally right, she's a fucking Hero. End of story
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I want IDW and Mania trannies out of my board
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>>564325982
>Was this difference based on the publisher?
No, those were both by Shogakukan. The CD adaptation was by Corocoro.
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>>564326690
>the dumbshits at sonic team finally found a game style that works. all they have to do is come up with new zones. - 2012
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>>564327053
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>>564327107
Quark...
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>>564327107
I think it's pretty silly that Krack has this reputation for hating other Shadow ships when (as far as I know) she doesn't. On the other hand, I think every Shadow ship that isn't Shadria is OOC personally.
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>>564307263
what game is this?!
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>>564327221
They could've made those new zones DLC.
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>>564327235
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>>564326998
Made for Sonic with love
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>>564326270
I was beginning to think that it wasn't him when they showed the squid face but it is definitely 100% him now.
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Ma boi
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Happy birthday, Espio!! I (Espio's human wife) love my beautiful lizard husband so much!
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>>564327516
dinner
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>>564327380
My Time at Sandrock.
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>>564327053
why do you keep spamming that crap?
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>>564327587
Gee, it's so boring around here!
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>>564327503
But the Warp Topaz is gone, in that 900th special whatever it was.
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>>564327573
SO CUTE
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>krack is right
>woefag is...tolerable
>blueboardanon is alive
Any-fucking-thing else /Sthg/ wants to tell me they lying about while we're at it? Go on! Fucking TELL me!
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>>564327787
Krack IS right.
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>trannies don't want to admit that fangames amd mania are as bad as any other westshit
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>>564327725
This peace is what ALL true warriors strive four?
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krack is ok but my true love is scarcos
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Plant wife
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>>564308198
Peak art.
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>>564327869
>four
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>>564328020
For me?
It's Nine yume.
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>>564327787
Tails is a good character that amounts to soo much more than being a plot device and little brother mode.
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>>564327606
my man
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Krack
Duofag
Woefag
Scribbles
Randomfox
Sparky
Realdash
Bobo
Alota
Hotshelter
Fionafag
Lettuce
Maris
Roads
Sageypants
Paps
Fuckwolfamy
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>>564327573
Hey Espioyumi, what's your favorite Espio trivia?
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06 was westie sabotage
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>Sorry! But I had to get a facial in before I left.
Sonic gets casual blowjobs in the face and tells Knuckles about it to get him jealous
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>>564328091
Nice for the princess to invite us for a picnic, gay Luigi?
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>>564328204
>made it off the list
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>>564328103
spicy
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You guys are
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>>564327787
Sonic hasn't been good for 20 years.
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>>564328204
>Never been on The List.
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>original
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>>564328204
I am all of me
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>>564326690
We got hyped up once and disappointed
We got hyped up again and disappointed
We got kinda hyped up and nothing appeared
Then they leaked something about another frontiers dlc
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>>564328204
Good, very good.
Now POST THEIR INTERACTIONS IN TOMODACHI LIFE
NOW!!!
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>>564327573
Hey, this is really nice! Thanks for sharing it here!
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>>564328514
>Me either.
Is that a good thing...?
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>off topic this
>no off topic that
you know what is offtopic that no one calls out? your retarded lolcows that you keep bring up more often than the on topic blue rat and his on topic stoopid friends
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>>564327573
Cute
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>>564328491
>Sonic Kinoes
>Not good
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>>564328735
Please don't create us in Tomodachi life
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>>564328204
There's multiple fionafags, we've seen 'em same-time post before.
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>>564328204
Name something positive about each namefag
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Westshit is offtopic
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>>564329036
Most of them draw porn
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Out of all namefags, only Krack gets her defense simp force in ALWAYS, and no one ever calls that out.

This has been going for years and it's getting insane.
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>>564328263
If you pay attention to him in the ending cutscene in Generations, you'll notice that he's just drinking straight air. I choose to ignore that this was most certainly an error (especially since they didn't fix it in SxS) and instead believe that he turns cups invisible as a fun party trick.
I also love that his VA in Heroes is the dad of Charmy's VA. That's very sweet. Speaking of, I recently learned that Charmy's Heroes VA went on to voice Justine in Amnesia. That's fucking crazy.
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>>564328376
I wish CWC posted here
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>>564329226
KEK
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BoC is canon and matters more than Mania and IDW
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>>564329118
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>>564329183
>no one ever calls that out.
All I ever hear is bitching about her and I still can't tell when she's in the thread
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is "mania bad" the new /sthg/ psychosis?
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>>564329341
cnc
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>>564328592
>edit
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>>564329226
>Your enemies cannot poison your drink if they cannot see your cup
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>>564329519
It's one desperate weeb.
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>>564329557
Amy should try getting breast implants
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Is "mania good" the new westie cope?
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>>564329580
Casefiles gives me the indication that
maybe Espio just isn't a good ninja
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I fucking hate Sega of America. Fucking cowardly, cynical, and insecure dumbasses trying to strip Amy of any personality to appeal to people who didn't like her the same way they became self-deprecating in the 2010s to appeal to people who never liked the series.
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>>564329341
Katie’s shrine?
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>>564329226
>I met a mime once, they taught me this trick.
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Espio is beloved by fags and autistic women. What a shitty character.
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>>564329685
Blasphemy!
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>>564329678
mania was never good. it should've been free.

meanwhile, modernshit is so rancid it's only good for youtubers getting ad revenue
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>>564329735
it's another shrine among other shrines
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>>564329226
That's pretty funny and thanks for the bonus Chaotix trivia.
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Mania was SOA trying to control this franchise again.
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>>564313972
Always knew that Sonic was a utter tool.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7QDozdmJFE
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>>564329991
Charmy growing up to be a torturing murderer! ^v^
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>>564329805
No, really, Espio, think about it. All of your valuable skills are owed not to your "intense Ninja training," but to your SPECIES. That's not to say we don't APPRECIATE you, but maybe it's time to drop the 'otaku' act a smidge? Besides, I've done my research. 'Ninja' don't really exist the way you think they do in pop culture.
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I had sex once… it was awful
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Sweaty sex with this disabled retard.
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>>564330478
Eggman...
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>>564329412
She's always in the thread.
Whenever two or more anons think pure thoughts about JP characterization, then she is in the midst of them.
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>read a western book, play a western game, listen to western music, read western comics and watch western shows
>throw up
Is this normal?
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>SOA
Knuckles is the leader of the Chaotix
>SOJ
Knuckles is on the team of rejects
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>>564330478
Vanilla...
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Sonic IDW #86 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVNAHe1ZjPc
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>>564330582
>SoA
Espio is the hier of a ninja clan, Charmy is a prince in the bee kingdom. Vector is a professional detective
>SoJ
Oh you mean the comedy squad?
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>>564329707
Send a complaint to SOJ and send screenshots of dialogue differences and of fans criticizing it. Speak up like I’m planning to do
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>>564329183
It's her samefagging.
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>>564330304
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>>564330695
>>564312538
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Vector, am I a burden to you?
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>>564304720
The reason why everybody hates AI art is because it takes away the real people that are put on casting couches.
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>>564329183
Not a surprise Japnic fans worship a tranny.
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>>564330493
How does hotshelter's phat pussy feels like?
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>>564330493
I'd rather the girl holding the pillow desu.
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IDW fans are so woke they're asleep
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>>564330724
I always notice that when Americans made Sonic lore, they make it as epic as possible while a lot of jp lore try's to remain comedic and somewhat cartoony, at least in the 90s.
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/sthg/ babes in maid outfits
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SRB2 is dogshit
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>>564330835
Wow... And how did you come to this well-thought-out concern?
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>>564330967
eh not always. do you think idw is epic? the kiddie movies are superior to that TP
do you think SA and SA2 are cartoony? each side got their ups and downs
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>>564330967
yeah that epic lore about robotnik fusing with a rotten egg or sonic liking chilli dogs, and the comedic casual japanese lore where sonic turns into totally not a super saiyan after collecting the totally not dragonballs and flies through space
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>>564331030
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>>564330724
SoJ Chaotix is a plain joke in and out. They literally retconned Chaotix entirely out their classic selves.

SoA Chaotix of all respect them.
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>>564330863
>everybody hates Ai art
Twitter artists aren't everyone
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>>564331149
>yeah that epic lore about robotnik fusing with a rotten egg
Which they didn't even use in the US and people only remember because the UK comic kept it.
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every fanfic from sthg has rape
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StC is painfully forgettable unlike Archie. People only prop it up just to be contrarians.

There's no such thing as StCfags.
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>>564331215
Yeah but they got too much influence in the industry.
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>>564331398
No, corpos do and they are adopting ai.
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Do you retards actually the west have made a single good game, music, art, book, show, cartoon, comic, food in history?
LMAO
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>>564331074
Tails said it so I have to.
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>>564331381
There is no such thing as SatAMfags either. Those people just like Archie.
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>>564331467
Its probably a better business model in the long run. Too many people getting cancelled left and right, its the only sensible solution to rely on computers over people.
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>>564331192
SoA generally sees the extended cast as cooler than SoJ does (Shadow is the only exception).
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>The Chaotix
Or
>Just Vector
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>>564322823
Classic
You were referencing Lightfoot, weren't you?
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>>564331381
STC isn't forgettable
Just because it doesn't have massive lows or an abundance of SICK FIGHTS doesn't mean it wasn't great.
Captain Plunder and his adventures a ghost firstmate and a cartoon cat, Fabian and his shit singing, Amy and Tekno Doctor Who adventures, Tails in I Wish Sonic Was Here Nameless Zone shenanigans, Grimer's toadying, Super Sonic amnesia, Robotnik is Larger Than Everything esque fun
Also the best part, Knuckles gets to be mostly on his island AND have adventures. It's good fun.
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SoJ Chaotix are more iconic than any Chaotix.
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>>564331568
Hey don't go there...yet...
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>>564331276
No they don't
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>>564331721
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>>564331609
This is true. Nobody on sthg knew Sally was a gadget character until Violet pointed it out
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>>564331735
StC was the only comic that had good fights until Blade of Courage.
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>>564304559
This should be cannon. I don't care if it means retconing Shadow age, It would be worth it.
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No ammount of fan slop games you shill can compare to jap kino
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>>564331192
>SoA Chaotix of all respect them.
I...
uh, holy shit.
Wait, not! SoE! SoE also respects Chaotix! Maybe moreso!
>still the west
fuuuuuuuuuu
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Mania is pathetic compared to BoC
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>>564331924
>StC was the only comic that had good fights until Blade of Courage.
...which means StC is still the only comic with good fights, since Blade of Courage is dogshit.
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Team Chaotix would struggle to hack a single door.
(Big would smash the door)
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It's not Starline, it's Infinite
lmao
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Mangey sexo
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>>564332207
Infinite isn't an inventor
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>>564332197
Doors are hard uuuuu
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>>564332207
Infinite #3?
>the endgame is infinite Infinites.
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Nobody here actually likes Satam. They only know the freedom fighters from Archie
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>>564332320
Don't worry, your Power character Lanolin can bitch the door to death.
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>>564332452
>>564331609
>>564331916
Struck a nerve, huh?
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Nobody here actually likes Mania.
They want to defend SOA.
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>>564332319
both use gems
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>>564331568
STOP WALKING ON MY PIANO KEYS, CHARMY! ONLY *I* CAN SO THAT!!
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Nobody here actually likes Sonic.
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>>564331924
Honest question, what makes a good fight? What is BoC and StC doing better than other Sonic comics?
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no one hates Sonic more than shippers
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>>564332705
fucking hate him.
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>>564332452
I watched it as a kid and enjoyed it. I saw it before I ever read an issue of Archie.
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>>564332820
true
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>>564332736
Both are made on island monarchy's
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>>564331912
>amy was super difficult
JUST GIVE HER A SPINBALL YOU DUMB BASTARDS
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>>564332850
When Violet posted about Sally's gadget skills here, a bunch of archiefags tried to say Sally isn't an inventor.
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>>564332705
God just kill the damn blue rat already!!
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THERE WAS NOTHING WRONG WITH 06, SHADOW 05, HEROES OR UNLEASHED.
WE DIDN'T NEED FAN FAGGOTS TO MAKE SLOP LIKE MANIA AND IDW OR HOLLYWOOD GARBAGE.
YOU HATE SOJ VISION, YOU HATE SONIC, YOU RUINED SONIC
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Nobody here actually likes Mania.
They want to rightfully shit on Sonic Team.
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Whoever pretended to be thread simulator anon a month ago, you are truly diabolical
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>>564333101
Aka westniggers
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>>564333030
To disprove xer retarded headcanons, yes.
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I wonder if the mania hater genuinely thinks he's funny by posting this stuff everyday or if he seriously believes all he says
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>>564333192
To be fair these threads are so god-awful now it's for the best.
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>>564332705
https://www.chefsresource.com/what-do-hedgehogs-taste-like/
I am going to EAT that Hedgehog!!
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>>564333030
I filter out anything related to Twitterfags so idk what you're referring to nor do I care. I just like the cartoon.
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Mania hater is based
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>>564312249
>literally throws a giant star at the reader when Sonic is about to reveal his identity
and people will still deny it's him
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>>564332862
Wow movie Sonic really is ugly.
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>>564333298
I figured it was just a bot.
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>>564333339
The threads aren't that bad.
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>>564333345
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>>564333554
Why is he covered in cum>
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>>564333631
newfag.
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It's blatantly starline. IDW is not the kind of comic that does shocking mystery reveals. They're not going to surprise us with shit like Shahra or Infinite or some other character from the games you haven't seen for a while. The game characters ONLY do obvious things in IDW. If you've been reading the comic you know that all the plot heavy stuff goes to the OCs because Ian is scared of sega and windfags
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>>564333349
*recordscratch*
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>>564332787
Wow, fennecs really are canine. They’re still vulpine, tho.
https://youtu.be/kN-6YnDY3gs?si=Z2yJiFjPLPBjNBkI
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Don't worry Callie this won't hurt... Much



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