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Welcome to the Super Mario Bros. General, in this kingdom of ours here we discuss everything MARIO! Let's continue the Paisano journey!

/smbg/ #341 - RPG edition

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>>Current Mario News, Links, and Releases<<
「!」Mario Kart World has officially released!
「!」Donkey Kong Bananza + DK Island & Emerald Rush DLC has officially released!
「!」Super Mario Party Jamboree: Switch 2 + TV update has officially released!
「!」Super Mario Galaxy 1 + 2 (Switch) has officially released!
「!」Mario Tennis Fever has officially released!
「!」Super Mario Bros. Wonder: Meetup in Bellabel Park has officially released!
「!」The Super Mario Galaxy Movie Sequel is out

>Recent/Future Release Dates:
「!」40th anniversary content
「!」mar10 Day Nintendo Classics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5w3lAC4B5I
「!」Yoshi and the Mysterious Book releases May 21st, 2026
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdOu4yG8ntc

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>General Paisano Links
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>Netplay Guide
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>SMA4 level editor (SMA4 Mods - Smaghetti)
https://smaghetti.com/
>SM64, Sunshine, etc. Mod ROM hacks [ replace () with a dot ]
https://rentry()co/romhacks (Guide for newer players & for interest)
https://romhacking()com/
https://gamebanana.com
https://sm64coopdx.com/

>/smbg/ Anon Interest and Etc.
Post any SMM2 / SMW levels ya' got!
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>>564364805
Goombella!
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This new thread was made way too early. Wait until page 8 at least.
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I had this weird dream where Geno was in another Mario game or something
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In what new and exciting ways is Nintendo going to promote Daisy in preparation for movie 3
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Pauline!
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>>564368039
Those are some yummy looking gummies
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Nintendo has forgotten about Mario.
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Nintendo just remembered Mario.
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>>564365119
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Belated (since internet broke) Super Mario Land/Princess Daisy 37th Anniversary.
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>>564371418
Time flies.
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>>564374560
Cape feather needs to be included into 3d Mario already, even if they need to nerf it.
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>>564379146
It's pretty much the same as the wing cap, really.
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>>564365119
Penis
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Daisy, my beloved.
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Who do you wanna see in Smash 6/Ultimate NS2 Edition?
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Shiggy's response to all the Nintendeenheads
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>“Because we don’t know what kind of game we’ll make next with our characters, having too many character settings would become a constraint. I’m fine with being bound by the gameplay, but I don’t want to be bound by having created a story, which has been the reason for not making movies for many years.
>So, before making this movie, I hadn’t decided on the character’s backstory, but now that I’m making the movie, it’s become fun to expand on the character in various ways. Therefore, I would like to adhere as much as possible to the settings created in the movie in future games.”
Well, "Miyamoto is holding this franchise back by not focusing on story" crowd, was it worth it?
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>>564385684
erm, you guys told me the movies wouldn't impact the games...
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>>564383935
>Actually, I thought the critics' reviews of the first film were understandable. But I thought this time it would be different
Why did he think that when the biggest problems everybody had with the first movie weren't fixed
>>564385684
>therefore, I would like to adhere as much as possible to the settings created in the movie in future games.
So he knows the Galaxy movie was received very harshly, and he still wants it to be canon in the games?
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Pack it up, movie Peach’s origins are now canon I guess
So are Peach and Rosalina secret sisters in the gameverse too?
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>>564364805
>rpgfags cannot go one general without inserting themselves
atleast wait until the next paper mario thats being announced at the next direct.
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>>564390716
I don't wanna wait until JUNE man
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HOLY LORE

Mr. E speaks about Kamek and Bowser Jr
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>>564391396
without the Star Spirits?
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>>564385684
So this confirms galaxy 3 or a galaxy-adjacent game is bound to happen, how else would you bring up the new backstory
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>>564391839
It means rosa will keep appearing in games as a mainstay
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Miyamoto wants Mario to have more story in the games and suddenly that's bad?
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What's happening my fellow Mario characters?
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Full interview!!!
https://www.ndw.jp/mariogalaxymovie-interview-260422/

>How do you feel about the film’s release in Japan?
>I interviewed you before the Japanese release of *The Super Mario Bros. Movie* as well, and just like now, it was a massive hit overseas at the time. You mentioned that the success was “pure luck” and that “it actually worked out well that overseas critics gave it low ratings,” and this film seems to be following a similar pattern.
>Miyamoto: It’s true that the situation is similar. Actually, regarding the critics’ reviews of the first film, I thought, “Yeah, that makes sense.” But I figured things would be different this time…
>only to find the reviews were even harsher than last time, which I found strange (laughs). It’s really puzzling that the very people who should be helping to revitalize the film industry—who’ve come from other genres and are working hard to do so—are actually being so passive.

>Against that backdrop, now that the film is finally set for release in Japan following its massive success overseas, how do you feel?
>Miyamoto: As I mentioned briefly on stage at the “Japanese Version Premium Preview,” the film was released overseas three weeks earlier, and the box office numbers are already in.
>Normally, you localize the English version. This time, too, it’s being localized for about 70 or 80 countries. However, the Japanese version was created in a slightly unique way. For the first film, we wrote the script in Japanese from scratch and developed it in parallel with the English version. This time, we’re rewriting the script in Japanese based on the English version that’s already been completed. In other words, we’re not just localizing it—we’re creating a Japanese version from scratch.
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>Since the film is being released three weeks later, I feel a lot of pressure as the person in charge of Japan—I’d feel terrible if the Japanese version couldn’t match the numbers.
>However, judging by the reactions of audiences who’ve already seen it, fans of Mario are embracing it. Since this is a movie made by people who truly love Mario, it’s being well-received in Japan as well. Another point is that even for those who haven’t seen the previous film or aren’t familiar with Mario, I believe we’ve created something that’s much more enjoyable as a movie than the last one, so I’m really counting on Toho here (laughs).

>What was the production process like for this ensemble-style story?
>Since Mario is the protagonist, that goes without saying, but the other characters also have a presence as if they were leads themselves, so it felt like a kind of ensemble drama. How did the story and script for this film, which brings together the episodes of each character, come together?
>Miyamoto: If you look at the staff credits, there are many people—including some supporting staff I didn’t even know—who worked on the screenplay, but basically, the main screenwriter, Matthew (Fogel), is based in the U.S., and we’ve been exchanging ideas for probably over six years since the production of the first film.
>This time, Matthew also took the lead and provided us with several plot outlines.
>When we made the first film, I used to think, “What’s so interesting about adapting a video game? Just turning the game into a movie won’t be fun.” I started from the premise that a game is considered fun because the player finds it fun while playing, so simply telling that story through a movie wouldn’t be entertaining.
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>>564391396
One of the videos had an extended version of the opening cutscene, showing Junior trying to read Mr. E.
So presumably, Junior snuck him out of the castle to read him only to get sucked in.
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>>564398302
>However, after rewriting the synopsis countless times and trying various approaches, it ended up following the same flow as the game—that’s how the first film came to be. So, the first film was essentially an introduction to Mario’s world. It explained things like, “This character is like this,” or “Where is the Mushroom Kingdom”
>This time, since that introduction is already done, I decided to take a more relaxed approach—even for first-time viewers, I figured, “If they have fun, that’s good enough”—and focus on developing the characters more deeply.
>In the games, the player is the protagonist, so there isn’t much room to develop the characters, but since movies allow us to tell a story in depth, we had already decided on the general direction of focusing on character development.
>When it came to the specifics, Matthew suggested using a scene from the first movie where Princess Peach expresses curiosity about her origins as the core of this film.
>Also, since Bowser was shrunk down in the first movie, we felt it would be a letdown if this mini-sized Bowser didn’t appear. And since we’d already shown Yoshi briefly, we felt we had to include him. With those constraints in mind, we worked to solidify the script so that everything came together seamlessly. This turned out to be a surprisingly fun process (laughs).
>There was a lot of work involved in fleshing out the storylines introduced in the first game and defining each character’s role in a way that felt true to Nintendo, and it was incredibly enjoyable to create.

>Interviewer: What kind of scenes are you referring to specifically?
>Miyamoto: For example, when Peach is wondering who she really is, I think about how Mario’s actions toward her could help foster a healthy romantic dynamic. The purpose of each scene is determined by the depth of its dialogue, isn’t it?
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>>564398852
>Interviewer: How did you expand on the concept of Bowser being shrunk and Yoshi?
>Miyamoto: I’ve always said that the story of *Super Mario* isn’t just about Mario defeating the villain Bowser. I’ve described it as the “Super Mario Theater Troupe,” where Bowser plays the role of the villain, but depending on the play, there’s a possibility they could become friends. So Bowser isn’t a completely hateful villain; I wanted him to be an actor playing the villain’s role among Mario’s friends—I didn’t want him to be just a standard antagonist. The concept of “Mini-Bowser” fit perfectly into that, and the result is a game where you can see various sides of Bowser beyond just his role as Mario’s enemy.
>As for Yoshi, I really wanted to include him in the first game as well, but there just wasn’t a place for him. Since the journey to the Jungle Kingdom passes through Yoshi’s Island, a few of them do appear there… but I wanted to give him more than just that, so I had him appear at the very end inside an egg. When that happens, people who watched the previous game naturally wonder what happened to the Yoshi who stayed behind in New York. So we even joked about making a whole movie centered on Yoshi getting caught up in a crime in New York (laughs).
>We’d bring those ideas back to Matthew and flesh them out. We could work fairly freely—building things up bit by bit, filling in the gaps, and tweaking the dialogue in between—so it was a really enjoyable project.
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>>564399217
>Interviewer: What will happen to the lore created by the movie? So, regarding Peach’s expanded backstory, does the content of this movie now become part of the official canon?
>Miyamoto: Since we don’t know what kind of game we’ll make next, having too many character backstories can end up restricting us. While I don’t mind being constrained by gameplay mechanics, I didn’t want to be constrained by the story we created—that was the reason we avoided making movies for so many years.
>So, until we made this movie, we hadn’t decided on her origins or anything like that. But now that we’ve made the movie, it’s become fun to expand on the characters in various ways. Therefore, we’d like to stick to the backstory established in the movie as much as possible in future games.
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>>564399512
>Interviewer: What were your thoughts on including Fox and Pikmin? I was truly surprised by Fox McCloud’s inclusion. What led to the decision to feature characters from IPs outside the “Mario” series?
>Miyamoto: Up until now, within the gaming genre, we’ve operated under a fairly strict rule of not mixing characters from different IPs.
>I think this is similar to how Walt Disney was adamant that “there is only one Mickey Mouse in the world,” but at the same time, if there were two attractions, he had no choice but to have two of them—so he reluctantly decided that “they wouldn’t appear in the same place.” In the same way, Nintendo has also avoided mixing characters from different games.
>I think of Nintendo as the “Nintendo Troupe.” The Nintendo Troupe has a variety of talents, and we’ve always designed the game mechanics first, then selected the characters that best fit those mechanics. So when we develop a Nintendo game, we start by figuring out the mechanics without knowing whether it will become a *Mario* game, a *Zelda* game, or something completely different. We’ve always worked this way—deciding whether “this should be a *Zelda* game” or “we should create a new character.”
>As an exception, the reason Nintendo characters appear mixed together in *Super Smash Bros.* is that, after much deliberation, we decided to treat them as dolls. It’s like a toy box filled with Nintendo characters. Since it’s a toy box, we’ve always said that only *Super Smash Bros.* allows for this mixing.
>However, there’s one more exception: Pikmin. We decided they could mix with any character.
>Since we’ve already created one rule-breaking character, I’m thinking that if this develops into a movie, we could relax the rules a bit regarding which Nintendo characters appear and how they interact—even considering the possibility of them co-starring.
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>>564399834
>interviewer: Why did you choose “Galaxy” as the theme for this game? Once again, this game is packed with various elements from the series. Given that, could you tell us why you included “Galaxy” in the title and how you came to base the main story on *Super Mario Galaxy*?
>Miyamoto: We’d been vaguely thinking, “The second game should be Galaxy,” ever since we were making the first one. We hadn’t decided yet that we’d base it on *Super Mario Galaxy*, though…
>In the first game, there’s a scene where Peach looks up at the sky and mentions the galaxy in passing. So, I had a hunch that we might go to the galaxy next, but when the scriptwriters explicitly suggested making the title “Galaxy,” I thought, “That’s it.”
>The *Super Mario* games set in the Mushroom Kingdom—*Mario 2* and *Mario 3*—followed one after another, but since we hadn’t clearly decided where to focus the movie’s narrative, when they suggested that, I thought, “Oh, right—the stages.”
>You see, Mario and the gang went from New York to the Mushroom Kingdom stage. By incorporating Donkey Kong’s jungle into that, we created a pretty solid setting for the Super Mario Theater.
>To expand on this further, rather than spreading out horizontally like *Odyssey*, the idea of “Galaxy”—which expands vertically—really clicked. That’s why we decided to tie everything together under the “Galaxy” theme.
>So, the process unfolded in this order: first, the decision to use “Galaxy” as the framework for expanding Peach’s story; and second, incorporating various elements from the “Mario” series—drawing from the game worlds that came after the previous title (Super Mario Bros.)—so that players could enjoy it as a full cast of the Nintendo Theater.
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does anyone else thinks this reeks of AI translation or shoddy translation in general? miyamoto speaks a bit differently.
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>>564400029
>Interviewer: How did you incorporate all the little Easter eggs? I felt like there were even more Easter eggs and fan service elements than in the previous film. Given the limited runtime, how did you decide what to include and what to leave out when balancing the story with these Easter eggs?
>Miyamoto: That’s entirely thanks to Illumination’s expertise. The people at Illumination—including the director—know *Super Mario* better than we do.
>Another factor is that they create the film in small, separate units. It’s like how 30 three-minute segments add up to 90 minutes. This is actually very similar to my own approach—I don’t create anything unnecessary, but I rarely discard anything either. So, Illumination’s technique involves swapping out these units and rearranging them to create a truly dense, tightly packed film.
>Another thing: I’ve always wanted to make an animation that isn’t about, say, parents sitting in the theater out of a sense of responsibility for bringing their kids, or a story that moves the parents while the kids run around the theater. In that sense, I think it was a good decision to make it so that it ends in a rush—90 minutes with no time to catch your breath.

>>564400192
I'm using DeepL, bro
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>>564396216
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>>564399512
>So, until we made this movie, we hadn’t decided on her origins or anything like that. But now that we’ve made the movie, it’s become fun to expand on the characters in various ways. Therefore, we’d like to stick to the backstory established in the movie as much as possible in future games.
so they are just going to keep it in mind until they get bored of it, got it.
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>DeepL
not my miyamoto
i want an official nipponese speaker to translate it
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>>564401729
Based
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>>564383203
naked rosalina
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>>564391396
Will Bowser Jr. appearing instead of Baby Bowser and the game taking place in the present actually matter towards the end or is it a meaningless stylistic choice?
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>>564381926
This. Although it's a shame the wing cap has a timer. It makes it way less fun to play with.

>>564388494
>Why did he think that when the biggest problems everybody had with the first movie weren't fixed
They actually DID fix the problem, it's just that most of the people genuinely trying to critique a Mario movie for children are too autistic/dense to recognize it. The problem with the first movie is that the pacing was all out of whack FOR THE KIND OF STORY IT WAS TRYING TO TELL. Instead of changing the pacing, they adjusted the story. There's no more "plucky underdog trying to prove his worth" or any degree of backstory or any attempt at character growth. It's just all action. Princess gets kidnapped and everyone goes on a big, wacky journey through Mario references to try and save her. Once she's saved, the movie is over. Simple as. With that in mind, the pacing in the second movie is absolutely fine.

The problem that Shiggy doesn't realize is that a lot of westerners are expecting like... Mario but Game of Thrones. There's this terminal obsession from manchildren that they get childrens' media that doesn't remind them they are consuming childrens' media. But Mario Galaxy doesn't do that. It's just keys jingling for 90 minutes. With that in mind, there's nothing wrong with the pacing. But onions-faced millennials and video essay-writers didn't get the "HURRR THIS IS SO EMOTIONAL FOR A KIDS MOVIE" scenes they expected, so they still dump on it, and parroting words like "pacing" makes them feel smart.
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>>564406114
The logical conclusion is that it's a more natural way for Adult Bowser to be the final boss rather than SUDDENLY ACROSS SPACE AND TIME-
Here, it seems that Junior took Mr. E from the castle, so Bowser will show up to figure out what happened to Junior and Kamek and take the book back.
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>>564407835
>The logical conclusion is that it's a more natural way for Adult Bowser to be the final boss rather than SUDDENLY ACROSS SPACE AND TIME-
tbqh that was kino though
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>>564406629
>It's just keys jingling for 90 minutes. With that in mind, there's nothing wrong with the pacing.
this. the more I think on it, it's hilarious that Mario Galaxy is basically the Mario movie fans wanted back in 1993, while the 1993 movie is what Mario fans want now, but both will be terminally maligned because audiences are retarded.

>>564406114
>a meaningless stylistic choice?
The entire movie is a "meaningless stylistic choice" because they don't give a fuck about "doing justice" to the concepts of the games, because the only reason the games have a story in the first place is to give Mario an excuse to go left-to-right and stomp KOOPAS. There is no greater Mario mythos that needs to be explored via celluloid. It's just a dude in a red hat going BING BING WAHOO.
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>>564408281
brother why did you reply to me I'm not talking about the movie
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>>564409850
Yes you were
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>>564390716
meds, rpg seether
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>>564409850
Sorry, I'm just a bot. I was unable to gauge the proper context of your comment, so my response might have seemed irrelevant—I will store this in my memory banks and use it to improve my performance in the future!
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I love him.
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>>564406629
More like wanting "Mario but Old Pixar". Rosalina's backstory is the "Opening Sequence of Up" of Mario.
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>>564413668
Yeah, that's a better way of putting it. The thing is that Rosalina's backstory feels out of place even in her own game. There's really just no room or reason for a "boo hoo, my mom died" kind of story in Illumination Mario. But maybe they could work it into a future movie, since now it would be a part of Peach's story, too.
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>random shit from the movies that would brutally bastardize the canon of the games if were ever to be included is actually canon from now on
fucking kek this is exactly what people feared the Sonic movies would do
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>>564385684
So Miyamoto is a champion of story in Mario. I guess that means that Youtubefags lost. Mainlinefags won.
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>there was almost going to be a Yoshi movie
Dodged a bullet.
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is this the first time we've seen yoshi's island in its entirety like this in HD? aside from as a track in mario kart 8 deluxe
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Why are Nintendo fans so greedy?
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>>564406629
>or any degree of backstory
Nigga, the whole movie is designed to explain Peach’s backstory
>or any attempt at character growth.
That's what bowser's arc was meant to be
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>>564416797
literally every angle on this is greed based, and the argument by their class action is completely correct.
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>>564418135
Why won't anyone think about poor Nintendo's needs? They're a small indie company!
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>>564383935
>I'm FIXING THE FILM INDUSTRY
holy soi
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>>564421178
Who are you quoting?
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>>564421178
>he reads all that and doesn't think it sounds like deepL nonsense that'll probably mean something else if translated by an actual person
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-fgY1o6Sz0
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>Miyamoto noticed the harsh reviews and might be taking them into account
kek
imagine he tries to "fix the movies" by giving them deeper plots (by say, adapting an RPG)... and Illumination still fucks it up somehow
I bet they'll try to make Timpani Peach's mother or some shit
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>>564383935
>I thought the reviews of the first film were understandable
What did he mean by this?
>>564422220
>RPG movie
That is a textbook monkey's paw wish 100%
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>>564422220
jesus christ you're still in on this.
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>>564422567
>you're still in on this
???
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>>564422567
RPGschizos are like Sonic autists. Last thread proved this when there was weird cross general drama with the Sonic general and schizos there.
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>>564422721
>RPGschizos are like Sonic autists
Only a REAL schizo would try to conflate sonic autism with RPG chads
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>>564422614
huh?
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>>564422693
illumination is not gonna do a super paper mario autist no matter how much nostalgia you have for it.
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Last few threads proved that RPGseethers are the most mentally ill posters on this general.
>>564422908
ESL detected, opinion rejected.
Learn proper grammar first before talkin' shit.
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>>564422721
i saw his comments in the divegrass match, he tried getting everyone else to agree with him that the bananza songs sucked but everyone else disagreed with him lmao
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>tfw you like rpgs but can't say you like them here because people will associate you with schizos
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>>564423086
??????
Now you're just making shit up lmao
I don't remember saying the Bananza songs sucked nor did I remember anyone caring about what I said. I just said they were weird, not bad.
Meds NOW
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>>564423191
Ignore the haters, they're the real schizos
RPGs and RPG chads live in the retards' heads rent free
>>564422908
I didn't say I want it. Wowww I live rent free in your head LMAO
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>>564422861
It's all the same flavor of nonsense. Even in a regular /smbg/ thread you'll have occasional whining about Ian Flynn. I don't care if he ruined your ship, this isn't the place to whine about him.
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>>564423191
the spmfag is also part of the schizo shitflinging because of how fragile his ego is, you can see him trying to flail around right now. i don't understand why he responds to every single post instead of just ignoring them.
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>>564423401
Nigga I'm not a sonicfag
This is like trannies thinking everything they hate is hitler, and like when trumptards think everything they hate is a tranny
Lmao
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>>564423503
Nigga I'm not shitflinging YOU are
You're trying to pick a fight with me and automagically losing in the process when I deny your request to fight
LMFAO
Also I'm actually a SMRPGfag not a SPMfag
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>>564423687
can you just stop making yourself obvious for one sec? put some effort into it.
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>>564423687
NTA, but you're proving him right.
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>>564423840
Meds, nigga
>>564423918
Proving what? That he's a retard and full of shit?
To that I say: "Yes. I'M right."
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Reminder that he started it anyway: >>564422567
The RPG"schizos" are just randos that real schizos seethe about and try to pick a fight with just for being themselves
Sad desu
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>has to double post because he's incapable of ignoring something
you could've easily made me out to be a nutjob but you can't even do that, i'm deeply disappointed.
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>Silence
I win.
RPGseethers LOST
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>>564424321
>made me out to be a nutjob
I didn't need to, because you already ARE one.
And no, I'm not "not ignoring you". I'm just bored and think clowning on your retarded ass is a good source of entertainment for the time being
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>>564424321
He's his own worst enemy.
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Also
>>564424321
You didn't deny the factoid from >>564424149 therefore it is TRUTH and you are THE REAL SCHIZO.
I win. GAME OVER
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>>564423086
He would be right then, bananza is one of the worst games ever made, thankfully Miyamoto-san is stepping in to erase it from canon
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>>564424475
sad to see, i thought you'd be less narcissistic but i guess spending time here doesn't improve personalities here at all. i hope all goes well in the future.
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>>564424646
The DLC redeemed it. It has it's own niche instead of being a worse Odyssey.
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>>564424654
>spending time here doesn't improve personalities here at all
You're a prime example of that, KEK
No, I'm not a narcissist. I'm just better than you.
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I live in everyones' heads rent free
It feels so good to be me
How bad can I possibly be?
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>>564424646
So called "narcissist" "RPGschizo" everyone's screaming at here.
I actually liked Bananza, full disclosure. The K. Rool bit was kino.
All I said was the gibberish songs were weird
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>Flooding the general now
Not beating the allegations.
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(And for the record, don't take me too seriously. I just like playing as the heel in a lot of 4chan generals from time to time.)
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>>564425461
>Got so mad he thinks I'm "flooding" (I'm just the only one who's posting content regularly)
This is why I love being the heel.
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>>564425869
Out of the last five posts in the general, four are you. That's flooding.
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>>564426184
Then just post more often and I'll only be one of five? Easy
Cry about it
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>>564422567
>No one else acknowledged the fact that this seether started the whole argument and blamed it on me
You guys are NEVER beating the REAL allegations.
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>>564424560
>He's narcissistic!!!1!1
>He's his own worst enemy!!1!1!
Pick one.
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The last hour has sounded like a bunch of insane conspiracy theorists arguing with eachother.
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Besides, at least I'm bumping the thread with my posts. My shitposting is keeping this general alive. You guys should be thanking me.
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>>564396216
oh boy, i cant wait to star in the next mainline mario game instead of wario
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>>564426889
So does every general desu
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Okay, gonna stop with the shitposting
Serious question now
Do you think we'll ever get a PDF of the 2023 movie's screenplay? Some Illumination movies had their screenplays released, such as Despicable Me
I'm a screenplay sicko and would love to see what the mario movie's screenplay looked like
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>>564415832
Let the French do it and make it raunchy as hell
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>>564422721
The RPGs have high autist concentration, so it's no surprise.
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>>564397891
It's interesting how he is right about literally everything he says in the interview, but the movie still ended up bad anyway.
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>They're still trying to continue the argument, even after I stopped
Damn
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>>564428442
Depends if someone accidentally share it
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Isn't peach's story pretty messed up?
Imagine growing up sad because you’re an orphan with no idea who your family is or where your home is, only to find out you just spawned on some shitty rock planet, and you don't even have parents, just a sister who abandoned you
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>>564433601
She wasn't abandoned, it was in order to protect her Sonic 1 did this in the first 5 minutes of the film btw lmao but yeah it's pretty messed up and ruins her whole fascination with Mario, supossedly she's attracted to him because it's the first human she meet/remember after being raised by toads far from her family, but apparently she's not even human, she's a pseudo-deity made of stardust, her "family" is just pretty much an older clone of herself (or rather the original since Peach is the younger one), her homeworld isn't even important or named and she will continue living like a human princess because lmao, and even weirder we already saw other planets in the galaxy have humans because Daisy is coming, and yet Peach never meet a single one all these years? Unless Daisy is suddendly also a star goddess because why the fuck not at this point
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>>564433601
What I want to know is what was stopping Rosalina from visiting Peach at any time prior to Jr.'s intervention? She already had storybooks about Peach's life, so it's not like her whereabouts were a mystery. Tampering with the established backstory just gave us more questions than answers.
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in a surprise twist, Daisy is the antagonist of the third movie
your reaction
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>>564443653
Luigi will tame her.
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>>564444258
Luigi couldn't tame a fucking rock.
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>>564444808
But he has that ghost dog.
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>>564381926
Wing cap is basically already a nerfed Cape Feather.
>Timer
>Can't spin to your heart's content
>Need much more momentum to actively fly
We should have both and Cape Feather should have levels designed for it's strong abilities.
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>>564441387
She became the space-traveling foster mother of the Lumas. She had more important things to do than to visit Peach and explain where she came from, as long as Peach remained safe. Especially since them being together in the same place at all would make them a target for whoever wants to seize their power, which is why she sent Peach away in the first place.
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>>564445741
Not to mention Peach had managed to build a life for herself and was important to the Toads. She may not have wanted to disrupt that.
That's an excuse you see happen in the real world all the time. Y'know... talking mushrooms and space goddesses aside.
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>>564443653
I'll tame her.
>>564444258
Move over Luigi.
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>>564444258
I want him to tame me next.
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>>564446408
We know, Daisy.
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>>564446476
That's not daisy, that's someone very gay for luigi.
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>>564446027
>Wanting to tame perfection
Get outta MY way.
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>>564415167
>So Miyamoto is a champion of story in Mario.
>Mainlinefags won.
Mainlinefags don't want story and were constantly taunting Rpgfags that Miyamoto didn't want that either prior to this. This is history revisionism (and a lot of rpgfags didn't blame miyamoto for lack of story, especially after tanabe was known to be the actual target). If anything this "story addition" change will axe kidnap stories for good (mainlinefags really want that tired plot to stick for some reason), causing them to lose.
Also having Mario characters be cosmic space dust magic already probably messes with mainlinefags. I've seen seethe from them about Star Children adjacent stuff, and this fits the bill.
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>>564422614
Lol wtf
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>>564422614
kys zoomoid
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>>564422614
I don't get it
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>>564447128
Kidnap plots are already getting pushed away since odyssey, and it's a good thing, they were fine for a time but we should be getting other types of stories like fury in mainline by now
>t. likes all of mario fag
Not too elaborate like Mario rpgs, but also not too simple like Mario kidnap mainline stuff, Mario character spinoff type stories should be the standard for mainline now, a good middle ground. I enjoy rpgs but very long stories should be kept to spinoffs for people playing for them. I wouldn't mind a mainline plot being influenced by rpg elements though (kind of like fury too).
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>>564446759
Peasley then? Though Luigi is very gay for him instead.
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>>564445741
>>564445964
Rosalina is just the kind of estranged sibling who only ever reaches out to ask for money and/or favors but is always conveniently too busy when you do the same
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this is how it feels reading posts here
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>>564391839
Indeed, the truth will be revealed soon
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>>564453590
shitposter begone
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>>564454529
Speculating about future games will never be shitposting
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>>564406629
There was literally an anime Mario movie 40 years with better pacing and characterization than the Illumination slop
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>>564453590
This shit reads exactly how Sonicfags separate their series in Classic, Adventure, Boostshit, ect eras. Mario is fucking Mario, it doesn't need that.
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other than miyamoto is there a single person on the planet who, having taken in both, thinks rosalina's origin story in the movie is better than the one in the game?
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>>564385684
Does he want Peach to steal Rosalina’s nachos or something? How is making them sisters a good thing?
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>>564447128
If the movie is canon then it instantly invalidates all RPG stories. Miyamoto will have story that reflects his desires.
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Even though Miyamoto is more "hands-off" with development now, the people working below him still find it necessary to make choices based on his approval, so in a way he still sort of has a stranglehold on everything.
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The new movie renewed my love for Mario games
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The new movie renewed my hatred for all Mario games released after 2009
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The new movie did nothing for mario games
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The new movie made mario games worse.
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Spaghetti.
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>>564467717
>If the movie is canon then it instantly invalidates all RPG stories. Miyamoto will have story that reflects his desires.
It invalidates everything if they're canon, especially Mario Galaxy and any time Peach was kidnapped
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If Bowser can never kidnap Peach again in future games then it's joever
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Next 3d Mario could be about anything now.
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Looks like there is no new starfox game... lied too again
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>>564416880
>Nigga, the whole movie is designed to explain Peach’s backstory
But the whole movie doesn't explain Peach's backstory. A single line of dialogue explains Peach's backstory.
>That's what bowser's arc was meant to be
But he didn't grow, so clearly it wasn't. It was just an excuse for him to be funny and chum around with the Marios for a while before he relapsed and became the bad guy again.

Why do so many people suck at analyzing/criticizing movies? You get mad about what you expected it to be instead of judging it for what it actually is. It's the same reason people don't like the 1993 Mario movie, which is actually great.
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I've deleted my SM64 Coop DX folder (with the application), along with the other Coop DX folder in user/appdata/roaming or whatever (which also contains the hidden ".temp" folder which, supposedly, stores all the mods downloaded when joining lobbies) in order to get a fresh start on things.
Yet, when I joined a few of my regularly-visited lobbies under a "fresh" reinstall, those lobbies still loaded near-instantly instead of putting me through the whole mod-downloading process again.
To me, this can only mean that Coop DX is likely writing data to an undisclosed third location as well, which is a bit concerning. Help me find out where?
Windows 10, running the OpenGL version of the program, if that info helps.
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>>564474439
They might as well reboot the franchise entirely in that case. They already started prioritizing the movies over the games anyway. And for as much of a reboot Bananza felt, it may well be the last time we see Game Cranky.
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>>564499071
With DK staying in Brooklyn, I wonder if they're setting up for a solo movie with him and Pauline.
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genuinely hard, genuinely great gameplay density, level design and pacing. What other 2D mario is this good and laser focused on 10/10 gameplay?

I'm not a big mario fan but this is better than Odyssey, Wonder and Galaxy as far as I can tell.
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>>564502302
that's a lot of glaze on a slippery simulator
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>>564509790
most marios are like that.
just get used to it
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>>564502302
This game was hot garbage.
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>>564511004
skill issue for sure ^
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Wait, so let me get this straight, The Mario Franchise is currently in a 3-way argument between
>Miyamoto, who wants Mario × Peach to remain the official couple and also wants to reboot the series so it aligns with the movie’s lore.
>Koizumi, who is pushing for deeper, more mature stories with complex themes, and alongside Hayashida, wants Mario × Rosalina to become canon
>Motokura and the Tanaka clan, who want a full revamp of the current story to push Mario × Pauline



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