#1 Game on SteamDB>Marathon Youtube Channel:https://www.youtube.com/@MarathonTheGame>Game Info:https://store.steampowered.com/app/3065800/Marathon/>Marathon Game Home Pagehttps://www.marathonthegame.com/>The Entire History of Marathonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu7uN6-lNhkhttps://marathon.bungie.org/story/>Play the Original Marathon for Freehttps://store.steampowered.com/app/2398450/Classic_Marathon/Databases:https://tauceti.world/https://tauceti.gg/https://marathonmeta.gg/https://marathondb.gg/News:>Mid-Season Updatehttps://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/marathon_update_106>SEASONS & ROADMAPhttps://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/introducing_seasons_marathon>Introducing C.A.R.R.I.https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/introducing_carri> 4/21 Updatehttps://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/marathon_update_1061Previous run: >>564203460
>449 bump over yesterday's peakI guess the sale didn't move the needle very much.What's next?And don't say F2P, because that would genuinely be disastrous. Makes the cheating problem 100x worse, while new players try it, realize they are just getting farmed by poopsockers, and leave, never to return
Are they going to overhaul the economy and progression next season? Will anyone even give a fuck about the game by then? Most importantly, how the fuck did this game release as it did with so much playtesting?
>>564367962Oops all rooks modeSolos but only rooks, 2 to start, with one more rook spawning in every minute, only limit is however many people can fit in a trios map, and dead rooks can get backfilled. Exfils spawn at 20 and refresh every 2 minutes.To actually answer the question though, I have no idea. It seems like something fundamental needs to shift rather than just trying to incrementally improve what's already there. The easy ticket answer would be more/stronger options for ad-hoc cooperation, like in-run partying, along with ABMM - just follow the leader. Or the harder path would be to try to balance some form of pve route to the Compiler that's slow and grindy so people who can't handle Cryo at least have a path to aspirational content. I don't think Bungie has anything that substantial in the chamber though, at least not short term.
Dmarsh players are genuinely inhumane I haven't got a kill on this map in hours.
>>564367962free weekend
>>564367774Season 2 PlayStation Plus, Season 3 50% sale, Season 4 Gamepass, Season 5 free to play
>>564368568I don't really think PvE is the way to go. But I do agree there needs to be some incentivization to team up for solos, and maybe even teams. The former is easy with difficult PvE stuff (especially if they eventually make enemies who can see through smoke, since it just makes every PvE challenge for contracts just kinda nonexistent right now) but I hit a complete wall thinking about what would make trios team up. All I come to is that trios will always just be PVP first, and I think that's fine. If solos have some encouragement to team up to tackle stuff that's great already. I really think they need duos online more though. Speaking personally, getting 3 people on at the same time is a lot rarer than being able to play with just one friend. I often end up with just one person to play with, so it's either just run solos and talk to each other, go into trios at a disadvantage, or go into trios and roll the dice on our third who could be a retard yapping it up on prox chat all game with a free kit or a gamer god.
Safe pocket will make me God
>>564368298No lol, you will only be rewarded in this game if you grind grind grind and after a week your reward is facing other grinders because casuals left
>>564369982Fuck safe pockets, just let DCONs be used to send stuff back.
>>564370068That's just a yet another place where subhumans will be camping you.
>>564370156There are several across every map and there aren't enough players to camp everythingBetter to have more places worth going to than less
How do key rooms work? Are only certain rooms exquisite or prestige? Is loot always there or only if someone with the key spawns in? I've been wondering if you could semi-reliably camp key rooms if you notice one has salvage in it
>>564370249pretty sure everything is rolled the second the key is used, because all the boxes are white as thief until they get opened
>>564370156Meaning it'll spread campers around more, right now it's just exfils
>>564370289But I meant for the stuff lying around. I saw a synapse cube through the windows once, but I didn't know if that room is only gold, it became gold when a player with a gold key spawned in, etc.
>>564370387Unfortunately you'll never know anon, this community doesn't have anywhere near enough autism to validate any of this
>"We want to make sure Cryo is limited to only 3 days since we don't want the loot to affect the game's economy too much">Same handful of streamer premades are just vacuuming everything from cryo, stocking their vaults with the best gear possible and fucking teams for the rest of the week>This somehow doesn't count as affecting the game's economy when people with 10k creds in their wallets have to go up against a team that can consistently throw up a 33k loadout every run even if they go on a dying streakIt feels like the game devs are on another planet. On one hand I can respect them for sticking to their vision, but on the other hand it just makes literally no sense and goes against what they're saying they want to achieve
>>564370606Instead of being accessible only for a limited time, players should have their own individual Cryo Exfil limits that get lower when you do compiler or something like that.
>>564370748>exfil limitsThe definition of Lose Everything Ship
>>564370606>plays extraction shooter>finds extraction shooter mechanicsWaiter, this isn't what I ordered!
>>564371142honestly it'd be a fun way to vault clear to help your friends do compiler or whatever
>>564370606It doesn't help that once you get access to Outpost, it's the only map that matters aside from Cryo. Perimeter and Marsh exist to waste your time if needed by prio contracts but basically offer nothing. You could only hit one wing of pinwheel and come out better than if you did all POI for Marsh or Perimeter, and this was BEFORE they buffed it.
>>564371668You still gotta go everywhere to farm cryo keys and locked room loot can still be very goodChances are you'll encounter players with good loot on Dire Marsh too honestly
>>564369736They're gonna bundle it at this point
>thought the 1mil account value achievement was lifetime>it needs to be exactly 1mil of credits+your vault Holy fuck that's awful, my vault is only 300k
why did they add solo queues if they weren't gonna let people solo the end-game content?
>>564372386Because they're retarded
>>564370606>This somehow doesn't count as affecting the game's economy when people with 10k creds in their wallets have to go up against a team that can consistently throw up a 33k loadout every run even if they go on a dying streakYeah I probably have 5 or 600 hours in tarkov and I don't think at any point I ever felt like *the entire lobby* was as stacked as marathon does now.I don't think it's even a matchmaking thing, I think the progression makes good gear too available too fast to everybody and the whole playerbase is just stacked at this point
for how much longer will marathon realistically stay semi-fun to play? ive bought it on an impulse like 2 days ago as it was right up my alley, but now the ugly reality has came for me and ive realized that maybe ive been far too optimistic with the survival of this game. i feel like an absolute retard right now that couldnt read the big fucking warning signs that the game is not doing well
>>564372386because that would be fun and reasonable, and bungie does not like fun and reasonable
I was trying to make a post making fun of some of the dumb design decisions bungie made with this game but there's so many that I can't think of a few to focus on for a post so I give up
>>564371802That wouldn’t be the worst idea either. Pretty damning reflection on Bungie tho
>>564372606personally solos are always going to be basically as fun to play as they are now because gear really isn't as big a decider of things in solo as people whine about
>>564372486Tarkov mid to late wipe is always like this, most people are running meta M4 or whatever other weapon is the best in that patch. The difference is that in Tarkov you're not playing Joseph Niegler's version of extraction battle royale where every map is played like some larp version of Labs.
>>564372386Game for streamers. They never play solo.
>>564372606They keep updating it
>>564362239You know what?I think Marathon woud have worked way better as L4D like.Even with the PvPvE.But the whole extraction shit sours stuff, because your progression is tied to luck.Will you get the lucky salvage?Will you even get it to the Exfill?And what about the Sweat -team that is watching you from the roof of maintainance, your head in their sniperscopes?You will find out next time, on Marathon Z.
>>564377478A couple days ago I went to Pinwheel and some dude was blasting out DBZA Vegeta quote soundboards while running around murdering peopleI talked as DBZA Nappa and he let me live and loot pinwheel with him
thread anthemhttps://youtu.be/NpYh_Ffqy8g?kkI2qdVG93NKS3Eo
>>564378072Are you cooperating with people in this multiplayer video game?Cringe
I think the worst part about Marathon is the shills and how cocky they were before/at launch with shit like #MarathonTakeover
>>564379895Bungie didn't listen to the gaymers
>>564379895Was that on twitter?
>>564379997Right loses the gookservice side.
>>564379895It's even funnier when you see people still use the MarathonTakeover hashtag NOWWatching this ship slowly sink with you guys has been really entertaining.Reminding everyone of this modern classic gem: www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdh4MXE9jPw
>>564379119cooperating as rooks is insanely fun
>>564380784It's really not because of friendly fire.
>>564380695Genuinely didn't expect this video to still be up lmao what the fuck Sony
>>564380695Error
>>564380803I'm used to friendly fire because most shooters I put a lot of time into had it so idk dealit's actually pretty lame you don't have it here for such an otherwise unforgiving game
impossible...
>>564379997Why are chuds so addicted to porn that they need to see it everywhere?
>>564381684>he says before he goes and abuses children IRL
>6K playersWhat did we learn from this study?
>>564381797what's your mind like if that's the first thing you think of
>>564379997>losing the visible jointscompleate dogshit
>>564381573Marathon just needs to last for 12 years and survive off of retarded nostalgiafags
>>564381941Marathon hasn't even lasted 2 months
>>564382019Trust The Plan
>>564382019Banned from r/Marathon for hate speech, transphobia, and questioning BungieGODS
>>564370068The way you feel about safe pockets is the way 95% of the gaming community feels about shit dogshit game lmao fucking shrekt
Dang, I bought the game just before the sale (on monday).
>>564381941ultraraped post>>564383518there's a steam support request for that
>>564383518just refund unironically until s2
>>564374534>most people are running meta M4 or whatever other weapon is the best in that patch.Yeah but the great equalizer in tarkov is that is a base sks to the head still works with the right ammo.
What is the purpose of WSTR now? A risky finisher? A gun for the plebs to kill each other with? Recruit deleter? Took me like 40 hours to unlock it in solo, and now it sucks.
>>564384662hasnt changed much tbf. install stack overflow chip, unload in face and collect loot
>>564379997>imagine stabbing your knife into this every dayWoah mamaToo bad it sacrifices style for substance.
>>564384662> A risky finisher?Yeah pretty much
The reason people don't play this game is that most people suck cock. Play with randoms and realize how bad they are. But props to them for sticking to it, at least trying to get better.This game did not retain a lot of Destiny players because outside of their Destiny coddle-zone they would have to accept the fact that they are actually awful at games.And without a large pool of awful players streamers have nobody to cater to for show, or players to prey on in PvP.
>>564386039>The reason people don't play this gameIs because it's shit, free market bitch
>>564386093It's no worse or better than Destiny or even Halo.
>>564386146Okay, enjoy your queues
>>564386039Most people suck at most games, they still line up to play though cause they're having fun. This game isn't fun, and it doesn't have a hook beyond its aesthetic, which most people will turn away from.
A safe pocket provides both a fall back for casual players to feel like they still make progress and not drop the game, and motivation to upgrade through a lengthy quest chain to keep people engaged throughout the season. If you're against a safe pocket, you're against the game succeeding
>>564386243Thanks for playing.
>>564386146>no worse or better than Destiny or even Halo.The absolute hubris here is unreal>three fucking maps>all skill stats are hidden behind arbitrary fetch quests with zero progress made on the end game items unless you're physically carried by nolifers>ONE FUCKING ENEMY TYPE>zero ingame cinematics>heals and bullets are finite and require constant upkeep>you can't even customize your character abilities without a convoluted gear swap system that again hides the most impactful options behind endgame contentI seriously hope you don't delude yourself forever like this, because the game launched in the worst possible state imaginable. People are hard bouncing off of the game riddled with cheats and sweats that already were on top in two fucking weeks. It's dying because it blows chunks out the ass and the only ones having fun with it are the literal scum of the earth.
>>564386807>playinglol, lmaoYou think I was retarded enough to waste money on this slop? I cannot imagine actually believing a word Bungie says, let alone actually purchasing one of their products.
solo queue outpost is the most cinema and unpredictable stealth game ever. some games I feel like the bottom of the food chain and uninstall right aftersome games I'm sam fucking fisher and nobody stands a chance
>>564386981I think you're precisely retarded enough to spend your spare time baiting people on a taiwanese toepainting forum for your own amusement which makes you a really big retard
>Thief picks armory locker clean>Then pings itAre thieves retarded?
>>564386981You're clearly retarded enough to spend time here.
>>564387134They're hoping you are
>>564387124>baiting95% of this thread is shitting on the game, that's why this general exists in the first place. I'm sorry you and the other reddit migrants seem to think anyone gives a shit about your bungie apologist seething
>>564386854k
>>564386472It's weird how hostile people are to the idea of a secure container. Is it really the end of the world if someone gets to hold onto one or two rare things after you kill them?
>>564387383They like to pretend that they are hardcore gamers yet they call Tarkov too hardcore despite having this. It's just this weird "I'm special" attitude people are so desperate to hang on to
>Halo fanboy mad cause his fluke-game got called out
>>564387383Yes
>>564387383You don't understand anonMy 12 twitch followers will unfollow me if I don't grief!!
>>564387383For the record, I could live with or without a safe pocket. The game wants you to use and lose your shit, and not get too attached. I don't think keeping one item is actually going to counteract the sting of getting your ass beat within the first minute, or losing everything else in your inventory.
>>564387383muh goop
>>564387247It actually exists because some shills created it in desperation sometime before or after launch since nobody was talking about the game, then proceded to bot two entire threads until it became shitting on the game general.
>>564388123I think it would be more for the godawful salvage farming than anything gear related.
>>564388123100% it would be used for barter and salvage. No one is storing their gear in secure because it means you're not using it. There is this insane chain of thinking that a secure container means you don't lose anything. It means you can bring out a couple small items to actually have some level of progress when you get killed 20 games in a row, so you don't feel completely hopeless and uninstall
>>564388729Where is the Marathon announcement?
>>564387383I wouldn't be mad about it I just thinking interacting with the world is more interesting. DCONs are right there, they're already doing the thing, just let us use them. There are lots across the map and it would be fun.
>MIDA quest on Outpost>UESC logs intent to capture “Munamnir” on sightIs a Munamnir meant to be a Jjaro thing
>Every other match is against chinese>The other matches are against russians>Sometimes you get teams of chinese and russians"euro" hours am I right?
>>564389790Euros are still at work, wait another 30 mins for them to get home
Hmm
>>564367774>1 Game on SteamDBLying like shit
>>564389937The other list is pc only
>>564389940It's probably true, what I don't believe is >>564388729 , Requiem alone crushed Marathon both in players and time on top sellers.
>>564389937We only care about Monster Hunter Stories 3
>>564390180Someone's lying for sure. Maybe the internal bungie source that spoke to Chud Tassi fed him false info to discredit him.
>>564390180Bear in mind that's just March's sales and its PC-only, so RE9's preorders and opening weekend sales are excluded. To be honest it's still very hard to believe but not impossible
A safe pocket will make rape less mindbreaking.Therefore, a safe pocket will be detrimental to Marathon.
>>564390180All those numbers are AI generated garbage.It's like those monthly revenue numbers you see gachatards spaz about every month.It's all based on obscure estimation algos that take tons of signals into account but mostly probably rely on "hype" (number of twitter activity, number of ads, viewcount on twitch, etc).
>>564386854Standards are low nowadays. This would still be fine if the game had any sort of depth with its gameplay and purpose, and friendly onboarding for solos, premades and random fills, but it only cares for one of those.
>>564390957Yeah idk, I just find this very hard to believe. Why would they not advertise the numbers if this is to be true? Unless they're saving this and the raving journo reviews for a S2 marketing push
Every single company that has sold over 1mil copies of their game in the past 5 years has posted an announcement for it. Bungie has not. I will only believe official numbers from Bungie, and there is no valid reason for them not to make that announcement. Cope, seethe, dilate
>>564391124This one is more believable for US sales, Pokopia also says it doesn't include digital sales.
>>564391224>and there is no valid reason for them not to make that announcementpoor performancethey probably did sell over 1 mil by this point, but it was probably well below expectations, so that's why they are staying silentthe actual numbers will come out eventually probably on May 13thI really doubt it has crossed the 2 mil mark
>>564391502Yeah those are good reasons, I guess I worded that poorly but I feel there is no reasonable reason a company should not be posting that announcement, being embarrassed isn't a reasonable reason as it's part of their fiduciary duty as a publicly traded company to inform the market on product deliverables
I tried to extract the key room unlock jingle from the files, but most of the audio is unlabeled. I only found some cat noises. I wanted to upload them, but Catbox doesn't accept uploads at the moment, and I'm not putting them on Vocaroo one by one.
>>564391409Pokopia, Z-A, and Minecraft don't include Xbox/Switch digital salesI'm pretty sure those games are well above marathon if you had the date for digital gameshell, Pokopia has been a massive hitThe Circana guy said it was very much a system seller, with Switch 2 being the leading console in sales by farHe also said that he expects the price hike for the PlayStation to drop their numbers next month
>>564379997You know, maybe Thief should have had at least some bust. Not overt, just existent.
>>564391680social media posts are not made for the investors/higher-upsthey are made for the "consumers" to drive up social media hype. As I said, the actual numbers will come out on the 13th. With a very sizeable number of layoffs, I'm sure. There's no way in hell Bungie comes out of this unscathed. Both Destiny and Marathon have AWFUL numbers. They are 100% getting gutted
#1 in March for PC#4 in March for all platforms#6 in year to date
I cannot stand streamers. Most of them are fake as fuck, and the bigger they get the more fake they become. Especially bungie's streamers. Look at their eyes, all dead and devoid of light but their mouth speak as if they're happy.
>>564392071*for US
>>564391964They are also technically a legal avenue to inform the market. To the point that Tassi's stories from insiders around the Destiny expansion being delayed, despite no official notice from Bungie/Sony, were enough to cover Bungie from being open to legal action from investors. There is a window in which a company has to inform their shareholders on financial performance of new products, and yes I am being a bit facetious around Bungie not doing it yet with an announcement, it technically is a legally recognized method of doing so by posting announcements through social media. I agree the Sony financial update will finally shed some actual light on the numbers, everyone else is just guessing at this point
>>564392263*not including Nintendo digital sales
So is the US market that small then?
looks fellers, I know the steam charts look bad but this game actually sold gangbusters. trust the science
>>564392435please understand, they only have money for israel
From the river to the seaDire Marsh will be free#OccupyDireMarsh#RapeBungie
>>564392435well if you made the steam charts u.s. only it would look different
>MARATHON IS 4TH PLACE IN THE US>like half the games on the list, including some of the ones we know were huge, like Pokopia and Crimson Desert, don't include Digital Salesgrim
>>564392987If they don't have all the data, then what good is the chart lmao
>>564392987only two relevant games for that would be crimson desert and pokopia
>>564393609and the other pokemon gameand minecraft (yes, minecraft still fucking sells copies)
>>564393732the pokemon game came out in november i don't think it matters too much and minecraft is missing nintendo digital only
>>564393893>the pokemon game came out in november i don't think it matters too muchand despite that, the game is still in the top 20, counting physical onlywhat reason do we have to believe that digital sales tanked while physical stayed high?
Have to hand it to this general though>The sacred thermodynamics of rapeGoes pretty hard
it's fucking overthe order's been sent
>>564393609Resident Evil?
>>564394098they can'tnot right nowthey'd have to genuinely overhaul the game, or at least the initial new/casual player experience, before pulling that ripcord. and come up with a better way to monetize the game, because no one is buying the garbage they offer at the momentAnd honestly, I'm not even sure they'll ever get that chance. They don't have the time.Pulling the F2P ripcord at this point in time would be suicide
>>564394098how do they properly monetize the game though considering that most people don't seem to like how the characters look? pay2win?
>>564394435Collabslop
>>564394514Marathon x Halo
>>564394435that was the major fuck up with going with a hero model. With individual customization they could have easily sold cosmetics as people look to fashion as the true endgame. Could have easily offered ongoing engagement in earnable cosmetics as well. As is they can basically only sell shitty recolors and those are going to run out fast, plus I doubt the marathon community is as retarded as the destiny faggots paying $20 for a single transmog for a single class
>>564394709Complete shell customization would've been better for monetization, but also, you wouldn't be able to tell what someone can do just from looking at them.
>>564394161No asterisk
>>564395068there are ways around that, like identifying shell archetype on ping or something. That being said the guy sniping you on thermal from across the map doesn't give a shit what shell you're using
>>564395068Not an excuse, plenty of hero shooters have very unique skins.
>>564395446Hero shooters are played in bright arenas with characters that have extremely distinct outlines, poses, animations and voices that you will hear while shooting and getting shot at. You can open the scoreboard and see everything that everyone is running. Not Marathon.
>>564396041Maybe they should've thought about that before putting hero characters in their slow, intense extraction shooter
>>564396041You can also ping to identify the hero, something easily achievable in any hero game including marathon
>>564396235They did, that's why none of the skins are actually extreme and why they can't be deeply customized.>>564396364This would prove a failure of design. If you have to press a button to identify a threat instead of simply being able to do so by looking your eyes, that's just retarded and bad.
>>564396462Seeing the threat is identifying it, pinging is communicating to your team.
Get rid of quests and make faction gain entirely based on which faction you devote yourself to.Make faction gains greater if you kill someone of a directly opposing faction.
>>564396462>we're doing a live service game that's priced lower than a standard title >we're gonna need to rely on mtx sales in order to further development>let's introduce mechanics into the game that fundamentally go against the interest of mtx sales
>>564396761This was just one of MANY bad decisions they made. Making an extraction shooter was number 1
>>564396235how is that even possible why didnt they mix
>>564397507is this a legit question or are you shitting?
Game is fundamentally fun but it's a cortisol-factory. No calm moments, it's always pressure and always risk. No moments to reflect upon mistakes and get better. No chance to look at your progress and see what you have accomplished because it's either looted from you or wiped by the seasons. It's just a frustrating game in a frustrating genre and low player count should not surprise anyone.
Game's wack. The guy got to play for the whole 25 seconds. I didn't really hear him either.>minutes later>kill another assassin>thief comes>we down each other>start self-reviving each other>says "Alright, let's NOT kill each other"So we didn't, that was nice (even though I got up first). Opened pinwheel, got my quest and left without looting, almost died to ANOTHER assassin on exfil, like hell, go loot some shinies or something.
>>564399786>Assassin>Fully kitted>Killed and looted within 30 seconds>by a grey kit called pink nyan nyan nyanYou just know the guy was close to a heart attack
>>564395068To be honest this has always seemed more like an excuse than an actual mechanical necessity for the game. To invoke *** ******* for a moment, I can't tell jack shit about what other people are bringing at a glance besides what gun they're carrying, and that doesn't really hamper me in fights even when the other guy's shitting smoke grenades every time his shield breaks.
>>564399786He went through a 7 minute queue for this game btw.
>>564397707Oh I'm shittin anon
>>564396761It's not even that the mechanics straight up go against MTX sales, it's that the purchasable cosmetics are awful for what you get. They're selling the equivalent of a Destiny 2 shader for $15 for only one character, and all you get is a knife/gun skin and a weapon charm. Compare that to purchasing anything in Destiny 2's Eververse, or something like Halo Infinite's shop, purchasing keys to open crates in TF2, or possibly any other game currently on the market like CoD and you get comparatively nothing for what you pay for.
>>564401052Hey it took that artist a lot of time to shift the color tones and put pngs on top of the model.
>>564367962The solution has and always will be SBMM. I'm sorry but these games have to be fair to be fun and right now getting matched with people you either run over or die instantly to is neither of those things. Gear disparity is one thing but getting matched up with aimtraining unemployed poopsockers is another. Sweats fight sweats, timmies fight timmies. That's the only way this game has a path to recovery is if they make it ULTRA CLEAR that you are being matched up with players of the same skill you are. Hunt Showdown has a "Stars" system and it shows you post match the stars of your lobby and the players in it. When I die, I can look and see i either got a bad matchup or I legit lost on even terms. It makes the game feel doable.
>>564400425My queue took minute and a half actually, but that's 60 seconds longer than I'd like honestly.>>564400070I'm sure he was one of those "it's fun to lose!" guys and had a hearty laugh after it happened.But probably not, they need to do something about these spawns, there's nothing fun about this at all.
>>564401470I'm talking about the guy you raped in 5 seconds
>>564395068You can't tell most heroes apart in most hero shooters anymore. TF2 was the last one that let you do that, before they went insane with cosmetics.
>>564401537Yeah, I get it. But surely his queue wasn't much longer than mine.
>>564401587It's easier to pick out heroes based on movement and abilities than silhouette most of the time. The only main thing that tells you is something like tank vs brawler vs support/flanker in a game like overwatch but even then it's still immediately apparent based on skill usage. The guy claiming that you absolutely MUST have immediate identifiable class silhouette at a distance sounds like a shitter who can't react properly in a pvp engagement
>>564401317The games population is too small to support SBMM on a global level, even with only 3 full-time maps. I agree with you completely, but it's already too far gone for Marathon, and a wipe isn't going to fix shit
>>564398579>No chance to look at your progress and see what you have accomplished because it's either looted from you or wiped by the seasonsthey literally keep codex progress between seasons you chudlord the gear is disposable like the in-universe runner shells god you don't get it at all
I think paid sponsor kits should at minimum all come with shields and green rarity weapons. The difference between a white overrun and a green overrun is astronomical.
>>564402218I disagree. Wipe with announced SBMM along with large balance changes will bring people back to check the game out again, for sure. They just have to actually scream in people's faces: YOUR MATCHES WILL BE FAIR PLEASE PLAY THE GAME IT WILL FEEL BETTER. The fact that it didn't launch like this is insane. Level based matchmaking is a joke.
>>564403607Yeah it's baffling that the only one that comes with green shields and backpack is the CyAc one. Luckily you can roll that kit, kill 1 bot for its punch and you're in business.
>>564403476NTA but who cares? People just don't want their real progress wiped.
>>564403607yeah idk why they don't make better paid sponsor kits available... or a greater variety of them. it's a cool feature of the game for when you have more credits than gear but they're all designed to gimp you compared to a loadout you take the time building.
>>564403828holding onto a bunch of guns isn't progress, you can't use them all at once, you just have a diseased brain like the people on those tv shows about hoarding garbage
>>564403967When you flat out advertise to people like Destiny 2 players to flat out boost your sales pre-release, you can't be shocked when those players associate loot and guns with progress.
Game is a psyop trying to normalize the idea of everything being digital and having it stripped away from you.
You vill own nothing and you vill be happy.
You vill eat ze ticks
>>564403967they wipe your contracts/upgrades too you dumb fucking bootlicking nigger. enjoy your dead game.
Own Nothing Factory
So glad i get to keep my car when i die
>>564404773>He doesn't get buried in a mausoleum with his earthly possessions, along with his still living servantslmao this peasant
This game should've never shipped in this state. Bungie fucked up big time. There's too much wrong to fix it.
>>564404674If you don't like the idea of starting fresh and learning to optimize the progression path, extraction shooters aren't your thing. Otherwise you just end up with an overfilled vault with no goal other than killing other players for loot you already have.
You vill live in ze cryopod
Nah Dmarsh is actually rape city what the fuck is this running into multiple purples in my freekit lobby
>>564404928>If you don't like the idea of starting fresh and learning to optimize the progression path, extraction shooters aren't your thing.The numbers tell us it's hardly anyone's thing.But hey I hope Bungie enjoy their own wipe and total studio reset soon.
Are there going to be significant changes to the abilities and upgrades season over season? Cause if not, I don't see how redoing the same thing every few months is exciting at all.
>>564403639I want the game to succeed but I don't see it happening without a very heavy handed and sweeping marketing/pr push that I'm sure Sony will not be interested in funding
You vill be raped and be happy
>>564401317what even is SBMM in an extraction shooter? the whole entire game is stat checking and positioning. there's no need for aim training because of the aim assist and magnetism. if you throw people in the same lobby with no gear disparity then the value of loot gets obliterated and there's infinitely less incentive to use the gear in your vault.like, i don't get it. if you're losing because you lack gear then you play rook and farm outpost. the game doesn't need SBMM because it already has systems in place to alleviate gear disparity. SBMM just sounds like shorthand for "I don't want to think about anything while I'm playing and just want to be given my deserved allotment of 50/50 wins." Marathon's inherently unfair, that's just what it is.
>>564404928Even Tarkov got rid of mandatory wipes with 1.0 retard lmao
>>564404928Both Arc and Tarkov don't have FORCED wipes because they're unnecessary and stupid. Inventory space is already limited, most people are fine doing contracts just once and if not then they can choose to do them again.
>>564405251It's Skill Based Matchmaking. Based on Skill. K/D, accuracy, exfil rate, whatever I'm not a mathematician or a dev. But doing it based on groups of season level is ultra retarded. Doing it based on gear is a bad idea too, like you said. You're undervaluing aim skill, which is primarily the problem; getting outgunned by people that laser you.
>>564405086Yeah the game is probably doomed. But, if they make the experience better for those that already bought it, get them to reinstall, give it another go, and actually have a good and balanced time with it... Well then it might grow based on word of mouth.
>>564405251>grind out alternate game modes to get back to losingHow's that working out?>SBMM is asking for free winsAnti-SBMM arguments are all gay variations on "I don't want fair matches." That's all you're saying, grow a fucking spine and welcome opponents that are at your skill level.
I beat every quest... and I don't understand the story literally at all? Whats even going on someone tell me Im not that smart and dont get it
>>564399786>hear sprinting on other side of door, real close>open door (noting that windows are not broken and he probably had vision on them long enough to confirm you were coming from the other direction)>sees opposite door already open (could've seen this before even opening the exterior door)>instead of taking this information and using it to know that someone is in the room he just entered, continues blindly walking towards the other doorIf you're gonna play like a loot pinata, you're gonna get treated like one, that guy had tons of information that he just completely ignored.
>>564405805it's le mysterious bro, but it seems like there's a wrk in the planet
>pop stealth to sprint through that one side of algae ponds that has all the turrets in it all the time>guy is just waiting there on the other side and blasts me downdude come the fuck on how do people actually move through this map having to run the gauntlet for this sekgen quest and *avoid* killing people before I get to the part where I need to kill someone is fucking me up. I have to rush it because if I take my time most of the map is dead or gone at the halfway point but if I rush everyone can see me because lmao infinite sight lines. It also doesn't help that I have to hunt for a fucking tick nest
>>564405805You get 3D printed and sent scavenging a remote colony planet where all the people disappeared.
>no new store cosmeticdamn was kinda looking forward to seeing what they'd cook up for Destroyer.........>>564406161Play Vandal and run through Intersection using the rooftops. Dire Marsh is a bitch since you have to go through the two chokepoints to get to the other side, but playing Vandal you can make the UESC clusterfuck chokepoint less of a nightmare and just bomb it with your ult to get to quarantine. Then you just exfil camp to try and pick up your free kill
>>564404674>enjoy your dead game.94 hours and counting, i only bought it about two weeks ago
>>564406123If a Mayan pyramid starts appearing in the jungle I'm gonna freak out
>>564405251>like, i don't get it. if you're losing because you lack gear then you play rook and farm outpost. the game doesn't need SBMM because it already has systems in place to alleviate gear disparity. SBMM just sounds like shorthand for "I don't want to think about anything while I'm playing and just want to be given my deserved allotment of 50/50 wins." Marathon's inherently unfair, that's just what it is.That is what shitters say in Dota as well.>No no NO. I am better I swear, that is why I am stuck in 2k trenches. Damn Valve giving me my 50/50 W/R ratio.Shitter talk. If you were good, you'd climb up the ranks like every good player and not be stuck in your supposed 50/50 hell.
I got the grenades on previous run and died. I'm fucked now and have to bring my own or did someone get these first?
>>564406401>Play Vandal and run through Intersection using the rooftopsWait those don't count as out of bounds?>>564406161The way I did it (after failing like 15 times) was freekitting, and hoping the anomaly would spawn. You fortunately don't have to exfil, and the anomaly event has multiple points where you can ambush someone, I got an assassin at the first point by just camping the shit out of it.
>finally get my symbiont injected with 17 minutes left>hear someone doing that quest in the tunnel by algae ponds>yeah I'll be evil and fuck up this guy doing his quest>get jumped by a separate purple shielded guy in the room that was also waitingI fucking hate this map so much right now
>lack of SBMM incentivizes taking in better gear to give you a better chance of winning fights against better players>everyone infils with free kits because they're afraid of losing their gear>they keep dying and complaining about no SBMM
>>564405805a robot on a spaceship went insane and called a bunch of aliens.a bunch of robots on the planet also went insane, possibly due to aliens.in response, the head robot government sent a bunch more robots to investigate, but told other robot governments that they aren't allowed to investigate themselves.in response, they hired a bunch more illegal robots to illegally investigate and figure out what big government is covering up.
>>564407609What are you doing this for, priority access and blue kits? Is that even worth the time?
>>564407834Yeah, because it sucks to lose your better gear against a free kit shitter?
>>564407834>Green gear is less of an advantage than jumping someone for 0 risk with freekits>How can I blame freekitters for playing ambush lottery? I am very smart.
>>564405805the developers quite literally intend for you to learn about the story via youtubers, it's nothing but vague allusions to og marathon trilogy lore.
>>564407392I found my answer, this is rather bothersome.Anyone knows if other grenades work for this quest?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2026/04/22/more-bungie-devs-are-working-on-marathon-than-destiny-2-now/marathongods can't stop winning
>>564408836you can bring your own for the second step iirc but you might have to loot the box to get the first step to trigger as complete
Volt weapons are fucking ass.Absolutely unpleasant to use.
>>564409620>over 400 people working on a game with very little content and under 20k peak CCUthis shit is not sustainableno way in hell
>>564409827It wasn't intractable on my 3rd run and I spawned right beside it. So I guess I just need the grenades and hoof it to the Uplink, dang
>>564410309if you already interacted with the box and the step shows as complete you won't be able to interact with it again but yeah you can just bring your own chem grenadesif the step doesn't show as complete but you still can't interact with it that sounds like a bug
>>564407485I tried camping anomaly but nobody came
>>564410582Well, free anomaly in that case. Obviously luck's gonna be a factor, most of my failures were killing 2-3 people on the way to the symbiont and there being no one left to murder, some were dying on the way to the anomaly, I think I got a free anomaly once before succeeding. There's no way around it, that contract fucking sucks. All the Sekiguchi Dire Marsh contracts are hot garbage.
>>564410157What the fuck are those 400 people even doing? There's no content!
is nucaloric and cyac the best factions to focus on leveling for newer player? seems like they have the basic stats id want, stamina and shields and shit
>>564411328Seems like it, yeah. Probably a good reason that they're the first two unlocked.
>Xhe bought Marathon 1
>>564410492Yeah, 1st objective was complete. Brought some gear and a couple grenades with me and got a really lucky spawn near Uplink and exfil right on top of it, so it went real smooth this time.
>The sales reports came out and showed that Marathon is thriving.So glad, chart posters lost, Marathon is a best seller.
>>564411749Marathon Cinematic Universe
>>564411998>Worst selling new release of MarchWE DID IT SISTERS!!!
>>564412069Hey it was number 1 on pc for March in the US without counting Crimson Desert
Thank you, _gantry. You're my greatest ally in this game.Now I never have to go to Dire Marsh ever again ever.
>>564412286Or Slay the Spire 2, or RE9, or WWE, or WoW MidnightSo yeah, NUMBER 1 (if you ignore 4 other games) WOOOOO!!!
Interesting
>>564403607Idk why it’s only 2.5k and 10k kits, there should be a 5k that gives a full green kit. On the note of 10k kits, Arachne has a nice barter for 2 enzyme replicators, blue wstr, shields, and a green bag
>>564413151>What do your augmented eyes see, Destroyer?
Seems like Ziegler is clamping down on spawn rushing on Cryohttps://x.com/ritzzcar/status/2046993742402351321
>bungie thinks im coming back for nighttime dire marshlol lmao fr 67
>>564413770>>bungie thinks
Does your sniper reveal your position through a glint the way they do in Destiny? Or is your position not revealed at all?I have not come across too many snipers, never noticed anything.
I wish I could have made my runner look like any one of these characters in the concept art. The hero shooter system is gay and dead and it sucks marathon had to be the final shitpost that ended this gay trend once and for all
>>564414362Yes sniper scopes have the big glint I'm not sure if it still happens with invis or using signal jammer but it's there 100%. 99% of snipers are living in Dmarsh I maybe see an actual sniper player in 1 out of every 20 Perimeter runs. Outpost I think people just bring DMRs.
>>564414404Proto-thief-chan... what could've been...
>queue up for perimeter fill because need to do some codex shit>get two purple shield team mates as a blue shielder>one of them has a purple key>we exfil after killing and looting>they don’t immediately boot me>perimeter again>they bring another key>we exfil after killing and looting>perimeter again>another key>basically stocked for cryo because of some random duoThank you based Bungie matchmaking gods, I can’t wait for karmic justice to fuck me in a couple days for this fortunate moment
besides the salvage for nucal and cyac, is there any i should start hoarding from the get go? theres so much shit im having difficulty sorting through what i should keep
>>564414579I see, that's good to know. Thanks, anon.
Look at this cool look I can’t have
what if instead of wipes they just removed a few bars from every item's trace level
>>564414909mirin those neck gains
>>564414909And this too>>564414995Nope! Bungie will wipe the servers in a short while and with it the final 5000 players will abandon the game.
>>564414995They should wipe gear every week desune
>>564414995What if instead of wipes they used bidets
>>564414727for credits, unstable diode and unstable gunmetal you can upgrade your vault space which is pretty useful
Bungie is a disaster
>>564414727Compounds and Lenses are pretty good to grab regularly since it's what MIDA barters for and you can get a lot of good grenades/utility items from them.
Prowlkit and Flexweave Casing might be a fun combo for Assassin to basically crab walk everywhere.>move faster while crouched, even faster while invis>also move faster while invis and can ADS faster
>>564415723It's funnier if you get Ratpack to proc too, you'll move almost at sprint speed when you're capped on Agility.
>>564410101Nuclear level shitter detected. The Punch is one of the best weapons in the game, the volt thrower has a higher short range TTK than the bully, the Scar is alright, and the Lookout is the best DMR in the game.
>>564414727never throw out salvage you'll need it all eventuallywhen you're new focus on grabbing anything "unstable"
>>564414404Sold well, didn't retain. So the strategy needs to be a big push to retain returning players in Season 2. If a full revamp of the entire progression system + the addition of SBMM in all modes isn't a guarantee for S2, game is permadead.
>>564416206>swoocing in at mach fuck you while crouched and invis with all 3Fuuuuck that sounds so funhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuQFI9TXiv8
hardcore Marathon fanboy streamer is quitting ranked if he runs into enough cheaters now LOLGood state of the game fellas.>inb4 seethe
>>564418116no way people are subjecting themselves to ranked still with the playerbase we have right now. It was awful when there were 60k players I cannot imagine the literal hell that is sub-20k ranked
>>5644147253 exfils later and we’re still going. I have no idea how they have so many purple keys. Im starting to think these guys are actually hackers or something
>>564418503They probably turned in all their CARRI points for the purple template since you can get 5 right now that's 10 between both of them.
>>564418627Yeah but they’ve all been for perimeter and it’s just coming from the one guy every time, the other purple never seems to fork out a key
How do you even play on dire marsh now? It's just squads on top of key buildings with snipers. If you get pinged, they kill you instantly.
>>564418735Ah well idk then
>>564416683>Sold wellIt was 4th* in the US* among games that report their data*.
>>564418503There's a contraband trinket that gives key templates on exfil:https://tauceti.gg/db/trinket/durandal-snippet
>>564414995the main purpose of the wipe is to reset all the faction bullshit with the expectation that players will actually be excited to scrounge another couple dozen biolens,If they don't come up with an entirely new lineup of priorty contracts (lmao) and they don't remix the faction trees with some more interesting shit, this game deserves to die
Sorry this is compressed to hell but get a load of this joker
>>564414725I got carried by some gods the other day, finally logged in again last night and got raped in 2 minutes on perimeter, I just closed the game because I knew my anus would've been obliterated had I kept playing
The only good Dmarsh POIs are Quarantine and Maintenance. Complex is tolerable but everything else is just rape city
>>564420031Fuck that might have been it then. We lost our first run just then and I was expecting to get booted, but the key holder just left the second we got back to Lobby and left me and the other guy there.>>564420792Sometimes the smartest move is to just not play and wait for your brain to refresh yeah. I have a feeling I'm gonna get absolutely rimmed in Cryo now though since I've used up all my luck. Ended up with>unique blue volley rifle>unique blue ares>purple Misriah>purple Copperhead>2 stacked overflow chips>2 HAR Impacts>4 WSTRs>3 purple shields>6 purple backpacks>60k+ creds to my wallet>Enough blue and green meds to last me another 2 weeksLooking forward to donating this all
>>564422184What's the unique ares like?
what binds does everyone use for both radial menus and changing radial menu selection? struggling to find something comfortable
oh my god I have to kill with the symbiont debuff active I am so fuckin retarded
>>564423240I don't know what that is?I just use my healing button and let the auto-heal do the work
>>564423396the keys that bring up your healing/shield menu and the item menu is what i meant.
>>564423601I just go into my inventory if I need to use a specific item, I am not sure what you're referring to, and to be frank I am uncomfortable replying to you anymore
>load into dmarsh with 2 fill randos with green shields and volt throwers>wipe 2 other squads and get blue tier kit and railguns from dropped equipment from dead players>wipe the last squad on the map that fought the boss and find purple tier loot on their bodies>lose it all to two rooks that gunned down me and my teammates while we were distracted and organizing loot in menusactually fuck this game I can't believe the run ended like that
>>564423774>I am uncomfortable replying to you anymorerape victim mentality
>>564422918It...Exists?I tried it for 3 runs and didn't really find it any different than a normal ARES. The charge time is slightly worse than if you just used a normal modded blue or purple. It's supposed to have increased accuracy but I didn't really notice anything too drastic unlike the other unique blues that can be outright better than even purple modded versions of the guns. This one has kinda crappier range and charge time then a custom modded blue ARES, which are the two things you actually want improved over anything else
>>564423240Default but I have a numpad on the side of my mouse, I’d highly recommend something like that, very useful in a lot of different games
Even reddit cant deny the rapening anymore
The rapening should be studied and researched.
>>564423240Thumb mouse button feels pretty natural just hold it while moving mouse
The Rape Situation is Insane..
Hipfire silenced bully with sucker punch, need it or keep it?
>>564425969i wonder if you killed me i've been donating silenced bullies all day
>See Stram chart I don't read or reply a (You).Ass cancer and death to chartniggers
^ rape victim mentality
>>564420778A real Recon player would've caught you and breeded you deeply
>>564426224Probably not I've been getting silenced bullies from MIDA level packages
chartgods run this thread
how are people complaining about performance, the min specs are an 8 year old cpu and 10 year old gpu, are your pcs that bad
player numbers are down even with the discount
>>564427451In fairness, even D2 despite using its old engine was prone to having FPS drops.
>>564427513IMPOSSIBRU
>>564427451they're lying
>>564427451Tiger Engine is a fat piece of shit on a good day and this game is extremely CPU bound, it's a horribly optimized game.
>>564428737if your cpu is worse than an 8 year old one, thats on you
I haven't upgraded my PC in 9 years. Why would I when most modern AAA games are shit?
>>564370606based anya poster.
I keep getting lucky and finding the little compiler effigies on commanders on Outpost.
>>564429079upgrading now sucks anywayI've wanted a steamdeck for the longest time and have the cash for it but>RAM shortarges are continued for the forseeable future until about 2029 or 2030with some people hopeing this AI "bubble" pops before they find some way to be profitable with it and their 1 billion sticks of RAM
I'm just here for the doom and gloom, but even if I hate Bungie, I would've given the game a try had they stuck closer to the original vision, including the ability to customize your shell. Once they announced the game was turning into a hero extraction shooter, I immediately noped the fuck out. Fuck Ziegler, fuck Valorant, and fuck BungieI want them ALL raped
>okay runner, since ONI is so concerned with your well being... why don't you inject yourself with the simbiont again and do a little race in Dire Marsh ;)
>>564431291bro the playercount is low todaywhat the fuck
>>564431820we have around a 1.5k drop compared to the same time yesterdaythat's a big drop
>>564431820It's Tuesday wok hours in America. Other countries are too stupid to understand the game, so they don't play it.
>>564432064Breaking the sub 10k barrier might happen just before s2 starts
sub 20k peak lmfao its over for you guys
No fucking way people are doing that gay ass hopping shit while getting into firefights to try and displace their hitbox sit down little timmy this isn't COD
>>564432195>americans>smart
>>564432064Why didn't this work?
>>564432678open beta before releaseanyone who wanted to try the game didanyone who wanted to buy the game did
>>564432674everything that facilitates the conversation we're having right now was invented by Americans>the internet>4chan>shitty consoles shootersall American things
>>564432580Peak doesn't maater, we only have 3 maps and 2 game modes. Even 500 players is fine.>>564432678The average consumer is mindfucked into thinking "game too hard, can't play"
>>564391825wait till you see the average japanese woman naked.
>>564433272saw Hitomi Tanaka ad Anri Okita naked, it was very erectioning and bonering
>Casual players are nearing level 70 >Everyone now being placed into the meat grinder with level 200 three stacksFucking lmao no one is going to play this shit next season.
>>564433256>Even 500 players is fine.dear lord
do depleted cardio kicks work for this one sekgen quest or only the actual blue ones I really don't want to risk the ones I have since I can't buy any yet
>>564424741any recommendation for a cheap-ish one? i have 2 button mouse now but what you have does sound good
>mag dump a grey shield with my gun from close range>break his shield and do some hp damage>quick melee whiffs and he two taps me with the knife from full green shields and HPWhat the fuck did they do to the melee hit reg
>>564435224>what did they do to melee hit regThey raped it
>>564434606I’ve used a utechsmart Venus mmo mouse for a couple years, no issue with it think it’s like ~$30 on Amazon and you can probably find a couple different brands with stuff around that price, just look up mmo gaming mouse. A Razer Naga would be the more expensive option. I had one of those many years ago and remember it feeing really nice
>>564435224It’s been really bad for sure
Why is it the one with the free kit has the loudest mouth and the worst attitude while the two people who came in kitted get dragged down by them.
>>564434326no, i would leave that one until you unlock cardio kicks to buy.
>>564437486fuck you're right shit
>lowered maximum crew count on one (1) mapit begins
who wants to get breeded next
>>564438616which juan
>>564438678peasant marsh
>>564438678"We're looking at trying out some adjustments to pacing on Dire Marsh that we want to test through the experimental queue. As we've been tracking Dire Marsh over the season, we've felt that at times it can feel a bit crowded, leading to some issues where collisions between players happen too early especially around certain regions in the map. As a result we're going to try something on Sponsored Marsh where we'll be reducing the max crew size by one crew and observing to see how the pacing of the matches play out and how in general it feels to have a little bit more wiggle room for players.DETAILS:- Change is already live as of 4/22 3PM PT.- Maximum crew count for Sponsored Dire Marsh will be reduced by one crew.Thanks everyone, as we roll out this change we'll be looking for continued feedback alongside play observation to help us see how this change plays out, so let us know how it's going out there in the Sponsored Marsh!"
>>564438678presumably the one where creews spawn in raping distance
>>564438616Bungie isn't sticking to the rape vision. This is a bad thing for rapists and rape enjoyers.
>>564438802>>564438812Neat
>>564438616>Make it slower and boringFuck>>564438914>This is a bad thing for rapists and rape enjoyers.Unironically, they made a good map worse. I don't wanna WAIT and search
>>564439113Only on sponsored marsh
>>564439812Sponsored mode is the only good one and they made it worse
>Dmarsh>a good maplmao
Each match should have one (eins) other team
>>564440529And the teams should be expanded to nine each.
>>564441043Solid fundamentals
>>564441043did your teammates DC or are you just being greedy
>Even Halo is claimed to be working on an extraction shootermake it end
So when I stealth do people hear the initial activation or is there a noise they hear the whole time? I try to stealth where the sound might not travel as far but sometimes I get got regardless.
>>564442090And it'd probably be better. Infinite lasted longer than Marathon lmao
>Dire Marsh should have a guaranteed zone wide event in it every single round no lockdowns no anamoulous not even a warden spawn
>>564441995>did your teammates DC or are you just being greedyI revived Destroyer, I only looted the sexy Thief
>>564443060arachne recon makes my penis feel funny
>>564443060The only good Arachne skins are Recon and Destroyer because they have the designs etched onto the shells the rest seem really boring.
I really like the Scar conceptually but I think it needs either a faster fire rate or a higher overheat cap so it doesn't instantly half it's fire rate after 2 seconds of sustained fire.
>>564443268I like the Triage monkey face skin>where banana>you take my banana
>>564443983Really? White Face in 2893? Shaking my damn synth frame.
>>564443983Did they really have to give Triage those big ass protruding lips?
>>564443983George DroydPowered by a fentcore
Holy fuck, just had a teammate have his entire game audio blasting through his mic. What is wrong with these people?
>>564444229>big ass protruding lips?They're for kissing the boo boo, so the pain goes away. He's a doctor.
>>564444229Is it really racist if some black people just have big lips? It reminds me of that mild controversy from when Human Revolution came out and people were bitching about that one black homeless lady for talking like she's from Georgia. Some people just talk like that.
>>564405086They already had a AAAA class advertising push for this game. It isn't marketing that failed. Who would enjoy this game that hasn't heard of it?>>564405078Probably not, but who the fuck knows?>>564405754Correct. However the point of extraction shooters isn't for fair matches. It's to get gear from other people to make the least fair match you can.
>>564409620Alright. Bungie has pushed all in. It's victory or death. They're putting in huge resources for this. Do they have what it takes?
>>564444963No
I regret not taking more bully free kits. Mine got replaced now.
>>564411105Im betting the same shit they have been doing for the last 10. Not making maps. Not making mechanics. Using the some of the same AI they had in the mac days.'>>564411998>>564412069LOL. Your understanding is worth less than the sparkleaves i wipe my ass with.
>>564444963digits say yes
>>564444963they do notthey are getting gutted in less than a month
>>564444708>It's to get gear from other people to make the least fair match you can.Fight dirty, always cheat, always win. The only unfair fight, is the one you lose.
>>564413414Because cryo.>>564416683No. Sold well for a AAA, but was seriously underperforming for AAAA. They needed viral growth, and got nothing. They ALSO arent' retaining people.There's no magic formula here. Multiple, critical problems.
>>564445295>they are getting gutted in less than a monthThey're not. Bungie's logo, right now, exists only for the next PlayStation console. The studio will not get shut down, until they release a new AAA game for PS6(six).
>>564445592lol
You may not like it, but it's the truth. Sony will not let go of Bungie's logo, until they produce a game for the new PS6 system.
>>564424075skill issue. that's what you get for having nobody on overwatch.
>>564445112>he has room to store free kitswow. what do you do with your time then?
>>564444963I'm bummed they burned the ip and cool artstyle on this but they are best moving on
>>564445786>>he has room to store free kitsI sell purple stuff, like weapons and Biolens Sneeds.All I do on the game is kill runners, no UESC, no PvE contracts, ever.
>>564431820LOL. In a few week you won't call today's numbers low. >>564432678They're thinking it will have a free to play weekend.
>>564444512I mean yeah some black people naturally have huge lips, and Bungie games have a fair amount of black dudes with big lips like Saladin from Destiny or Romeo in Halo 3 ODST...but Triage looks more like a /pol/caricature in comparison with how much longer those lips protrude.And its not like they had to because he's a human, its a goddamn robot
>>564444512Yes. Accurately describing people is racist now. >>564444229Bungie has multiple goddam departments in the company to check if shit is racist or not, and if it has enough black people in it. This was a requirement.
>>564443983He died for our sins
>>564446265They needed to make them even bigger BECAUASE he's a robot, and he needed to read as african.
>>564446265maybe they just wanted him to look like thatI swear to god everything has to be some fucking /pol/ retard shit instead of just they made it that way because people wanted to
I am going to fucking kill myself. I don't even think about this game. I played it because my life is empty. I kept trying and trying but I lost. I already lost in real life, my life is out of control.
Bungo has blood on their hands
>>564446932Relax, you have us, we're your friends here, on /mg/. Don't be a faggot
>>564446831This is bungie we're talking about. The credits have a >Inclusion, Diversity, and Equity DirectorAND a>Diversity, Inclusion, and Learning Leadplus statements from the developers themselves. What's the best evidence you have that says otherwise? I mean it's not shocking to hear Ben and Jerrys is leftist, or Chick Fila or Hobby Lobby is christian, is it? >>564447619>>564446932Yeah. Don't be such a weak faggoty ass bitch anon. At least let us loot you after you go.
-2k playersKWAB
>>564446932>oh boy time to come to the marathon thread so I can do my daily attention whoring>oh woe is me
Wanted to find the location for a key I had, saw this comment by ERN_REP and kek'd.
>Reports are saying Marathon is a best selling game rivaling the sales of Crimson Desert at 4-5 million copies soldYep, were so back, future safely secured.
>>564448683My honest reaction to all of those comments https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpYh_Ffqy8g&list=LL&index=2
Yup, I'm bored
how raped are you marathonfags feeling?
I got level 74 on Xbox with quests done by a party, but couldn't unlock Cryo skins.On Ps5 I'm playing for fun, doing only what I love to do. Exfil kill and ambush, I'm not gonna look for keys or open boxes
>>564450061>two copies of the same game>two consoles
>>564450672lmao
>>564450040It's a very good game, no fake manipulation. No SBMM/EOMM, you can see that you're better than 90% of players. >>564450672Warzone was unplayable without 2 boxing. One fake account on one system, your real account on another system. You use that to bypass SBMM and stomp normal players. >search for lobby on fake shitter account>join lobby with your real account>remove your fake shitter accountNow all the delicious wagie lobbies are yourshttps://www.oneesports.gg/call-of-duty/what-is-2-boxing-in-warzone-sbmm/
>>564451219this man is a menace
>>564451219>better than 90% of the players >90% of the players are casual uncs just wanting to scavenge in peace
>>564451415>>90% of the players are casual uncs just wanting to scavengeNot anymore, it's decent players with purple or blue now. Still, I'm coming for that ass
the game is soulless
This game is pure, unfiltered, SURVIVALIST SOVL
soulless tranny slop eat up goy
>The filtered ones>You can hear them too, right?>YesSpeaks to me...
>>564451365it really is his general at this point. i like his cat though.
>*plap*>*plap*>*plap*>*plap*>*plap*>*plap*
>>564454295That's the sound of Xbox studios upgrading the new Halo game for PS5 Pro*lesser quality versions coming to Xbox
>>564454435sound of me perforating ziegler's and bungle's and sony's collective diaphragms with my murderous gorilla dick
>>564454136>Life-altering game patch on Tuesday alongside the biggest discount on the game yet>Loses playersKWAB
>>564454639>Marathon plays best on Ps5 and PC>Halo plays better on PS5 and PCHalo fans smeel like piss and jizz. Even Call of duty fags never got pissed on like this.
So what would be next for Bungie if Marathon got shut down?
Um........................why is no one playing?
>Used and abusedHalo>Filtered and tryhardMarathon>Clunky and boringArc raiders>Cumdumped and deadDads of destiny
Cool and crispy 18k
>>564455738>So what would be next for BungieNew game for Sony's next console. Because Sony won't scrap the Bungie logo, until they try again.>But Concord got scrappedWe don't even remember the name of the studio, that's why it was easy to scrap. Bungie is immortal, until they finish making a new game, for PS6(six).
>>564455738there's no fucking "if" about it man, bungle has yet to make a single cent for sony (though they've certainly helped them lose money lmao) by all indications years after getting scooped up for a cool 4billy and now the thing they've been working on the whole time is in a nosediving tailspin with literally zero hope of pulling out of it, everthey are a fucking black hole for money, plain and simple. have been for a while now. the fucking axe is going to get brought down on the studio as a whole if anyone with a hand on the string has any sense about themselves at all.it categorically cannot go on. all they do is lose money and great sums of it at that. shit is fucking fucked.
why is there no good fps in 2026 what the fuck happened?
How are D2 players more raped than WoW players?
>>564455993Because it sucks dick
>>564456586WoW players still have something to play. Destiny dads got cummed on and forgotten.
>>564456737True...
Marathon feels so good to play, I can understand, that people who like "number go up", on quest completion and XP, are having a bad time.But the kill loving, ambush enjoyers just can't stop playing it.
>Goes on sale>Player count goes down MARATHON
Considering that they are trying to fix Cryo and finally addressing the fucking Dire Marsh spawn issue we might have an amazing S2.
She cute
>>564457404total market capture, literally the best game ever made amirite?
died to a flower again
99.999973% player loss wtf happened bros,,,,,
>>564457616One of the best games ever. No market capture, because game's difficult and "scary" to play.
>>564458050could you go ahead and post 'Marathon (2026) is one of the best games ever made' or some flavor thereabouts for me so i can screencap it for posterity?
>>564456007>>Clunky and boring>Arc raidersRemember, don't shoot back! Or no PvE lobbies for you!https://www.reddit.com/r/ARC_Raiders/comments/1ssndpr/can_we_all_agree_that_selfdefense_should_not/
>>564458491I bet this guy really hates Marathon
Time to clock in for my shift
>>564459653a McDonalds employee costume is the only thing that could make me play assassin.
>run game in perimeter>one of us pings an objective on the other side of the map and we follow>one of them us splits off solo and says he's gonna fight people when we're 150 m away>me and objective bro keep going our way and stop to loot>retard sees hes still alone and 1v3's a team>fucking dies and complains why didn't we engage the enemy with him >we run out to help him and rez him>get into fire fight with the enemy team while we're rezzing him>calls us retards over the chatWhy the fuck did I bail this niggertard out dude
>>564458285>could you go ahead and post 'Marathon (2026) is one of the best games ever made' or some flavor thereabouts for me so i can screencap it for posterity?My neighbor and her sister watched me write this from start, to finish. And she said wow
>>564461040above and beyond, i admire the passion
>WSTR nerf>doesn't matter because people who could afford to lose 300k of WSTR a weekend are now just running gold BRRT which is way more lethal anywaysSeason 2 needs to do something with how easy it is to acquire SSS+ tier weapons because this game is going to die if big shakeups do not happen
>>564461040Dude, you're like awesome.Haha. Where do you live? I wanna hang out and draw with you.
Recon is friend to none, prey to none, predator to all.
>>564461287>this game is going to dieyou heard it here first, folks
it's so fascinating how many different brands of mental illness you can encounter on 4chan
>>564461473/mg/ is a judgement-free agp-affirming safe space, please hold your tongue
>>564461571Actually I'm a spiteful subhuman, into racism and console wars.
How the fuck do you keep up with the average lobby in this game? Getting fucking filtered because I can't grind this shit every day and now I'm even losing 1v1s regularly while being forced to play people with twice my levels and hours. It's fucking exhausting I don't even want to get on anymore.
>>564463426you're experiencing the game as designed and intended, congratulations
>>564371164I havent played any extraction shooter that has a map with a raid lock out timer.
>>564372486>eah I probably have 5 or 600 hours in tarkovAnon, you still havent even made it through the 'tutorial' phase of the game yet. > I think the progression makes good gear too available too fast to everybody and the whole playerbase is just stacked at this pointThe tarkov hardcore wipe was instantly ruined by the player base having access to end game gear through farming raiders and bosses infinitum. Tarkov throws gear at you like crazy, you just have to know where to look.
>>564463426>How the fuck do you keep up with the average lobby in this game?If you want to do contracts and level up factions, you need 2 decent friends. If you want a couple of kills, average amount of loot and exfil, you stay calm and catch people off guard.You listen, deal damage first, and quickly rush them. You don't sit in a corner that can be checked with a shotgun, you don't run in the open, until you sit close by for 2 minutes and listen.
>>564384442>Yeah but the great equalizer in tarkov is that is a base sks to the head still works with the right ammo.Which is why Tarkov is slow as fuck and boring, some bush wookie or rat can lay you out in a split second with a gun he found in the mud.
>>564463707Guess I don't get to play the game then because all my friends quit, and solo being a tacked on afterthought is really showing now.
>>564463876Well, this game is for those, who like team play and loot.Solo is for those, who just want to kill you, no matter what.I don't even think about loot, as long as it's possible to kill someone 2 seconds away from exfiling, that's all I want.
I killed a freekit going for a dcon quest turn in and you know what? I think I can live with it.
>>564461291>Where do you live? I wanna hang out and draw with you.East coast
>>564448783If you honestly believe that, buy sony stock now. >>564455738100 percent up to Sony. I think they park Marthon in anthem maintainance mode, decapitate it and make Not Halo, after reaming out a big chunk of the useless fucks.
>defeat hostiles with runner abilitiesWhat does this even mean? It doesn't count if I get a kill with the crab
>>564464945Destroyer missiles, Vandal arm cannon, uh.... yeah.
>>564464945it should? I think it might be a ui bug.
>>564464875They should have just made this shit a Halo/Destiny greatest hits clone. Who the fuck is making an extraction shooter in 2026, it's insane.
chuds lost
>>564433256Most people play games to have fun. And even the ones that do like difficulty tend to prefer a fair challange, EG oponents of equal skill and equal advantage. Or in the case of non pvp games, enemies that- while tough, have learnable attack patterns.Marathon actively goes against fair fights. The average player will eventually be matched with people who're close to aimbots with omnipotent game sense, and they will have guns and shields vastly greater than them. It's no wonder they quit after being farmed like a loot pinata time and time again.
>>564456586It turns out there are worse things in the world than bobby Kotik. Blizzard had their clocks cleaned by microsoft, dropping the least productive DEI activists. Destiny on the other hand went all in on Saint-14 and Osiris, and even further beyond. The fact that they spent way more time on LGBT shit than the screaming negatives from them vaulting shit tells you everything you need to know abou ttheir priorities.
>>564465804extreme aim assist and bloom makes EVERYONE into aimbots. there's no training mode because having one would be redundant wrt how simple bungie made the game. no one it out-aiming you, there's no spray pattern control, you're losing fights to bungie's free aim assist that everyone gets for free.
>>564461343Credit where credit's due. Hand drawn Marathon rape fanart.>>564463426Thats the thing. You don't. You're rape bait now anon. You skulk, you fillin and get carried. You take it up the ass.
>>564463876Dude. It's a team game. The experimental modes block you. Solo wasn't put in until the beta. Get a team or fuck off but quit whining.
>>564465804>Most people play games to have fun. And even the ones that do like difficulty tend to prefer a fair challange, EG oponents of equal skill and equal advantage.Not true, most of the tryhards only want exclusive(!) ranked rewards. They refuse to "compete" for free. No special reward? They will reverse boost, and stomp normal lobbies.>Warzone battle royale sweats>CoD multiplayer sweats>Arc knockout farmersAll of these "dedicated" players reverse boost. Unless you give them a special rank/emblem/camo/calling card for grinding against fellow sweats.
>>564463426YOUHADTOBETHERE
>>564466357>Not true, most of the tryhards only want exclusive(!) ranked rewards. They refuse to "compete" for free. No special reward? They will reverse boost, and stomp normal lobbies.That's you projecting.
>>564466214>no one it out-aiming you, there's no spray pattern control, you're losing fights to bungie's free aim assistHow come this guy missed like 10 bullets >>564438648
>>564466824And why did Destroyer's bullets miss 0:10-0:13
>>564465047The extraction shooter part would have been perfectly reasonable if it were like a side mode for a larger game. Like lets say it was something like the Dark Zone in the Division games where its a separate area that is then instanced from the rest of the game, or just something like DMZ or Zombies in the CoD games. But it's just an extraction shooter with 4 maps while the rest of it gets drip fed over the span of a year. And it's not like it was producer by a smaller studio like Crytek that nearly went bankrupt in the early 2010s and still has less resources, according to Mobygames there were 2753 professional roles that were credited to Marathon 2026 - probably thanks to a mixture of that Sony money and Destiny 2 money when it was still loved until Lightfall came out. Like its not as big as a game like Call of Duty MWII where it supposedly had 7597 professional roles attributed to it, but Marathon still had about the same amount of people credited to it as Borderlands 3 did, or even Anthem in 2019. And those are looter shooters with consistent and huge worlds.
I think you guys are overselling the bullet magnetism it can't be more than a degree at most and even mods that affect it give you like, 0.11 more degrees. Personally I think bots just have larger hitboxes and don't share them with players.
>>564467042>Consistent and huge worldsWhat the hell does the size of the maps have to do with the gameplay? Anthem was a live service piece of shit with absolutely horrid baseline gameplay and Borderlands 3 really showed why Gearbox should never touch another game (That and RoR2)
>>564467520Do you have any fucking clue how aggravating a .11 degree deflection is on something like a shock cannon combo? There's a good reason why high skill streamers reject this game 100 percent.
>>564467520>I think you guys are overselling the bullet magnetismThey are overestimating it. I dodge bullets all the time at all ranges. Close, medium, far, no fucks given.
>outpost fill>everyone has the grenade icon>it's a duo of assassins and nobody is on mic>quickly wipe the first team at dorms>can see across the way two teams fighting at flight control and processing>shoot flight control's team from behind.>then finish off the last team while they loot flight control's team>clear pinwheel and the key room>go back down and finish a teammates contract un hindered>exfil to see two rooks miss the final exfilIt can't get better than that, can it?
>>564467728>I dodge bullets all the time at all rangesNot every single bullet, half of them, typically.
>>564467658idk what that is but again I don't think it's that crazy.>>564467728Yeah I've outgunned bad aimmers often enough
>>564467810Aggressive Vandal poster always has kino stories, I'd love to jam my blade into your chest
>>564463426just keep playing. eventually you'll git gud enough. just play fill and focus on exfilling with loot. who gives a shit about getting kills.
I'm gonna play sponsored dmarsh
here is what marathon needed to be:pseudo-roguelike fpsmmorpg expanding heavily on their foray into destinyseasons (four or six months long) comprise entirely new sprawling procedurally generated and then manually curated expanses across the surface of tciv that players work their way out to the outer perimeters of from a more centralized scope of initial spawn, more opening up as time goes on and exploration spreads its way around and infrastructure gets installedthere are regions therein that are both present from the outset and get further uncovered where outright free for all, no holds barred, friendly fire on, unrestricted pvp is flipped on by virtue of jamming or whatever else and you're liable to get your shit fucked if you go in but they're also where the juiciest shit resides as well as significant uesc oppositionthe system governing runners manages to exert effective enough control so as to prevent its little niglets from gatting each other down outside of such regions w/ trigger lock on other players in green zones as opposed to aforementioned red zonesthe uesc is represented by fucking wallhack on aimbot on autoshoot on network warfare on shoot to kill motherfuckers that are absolute menaces and warrant people operating cooperatively to engage and deal with them in any serious concentration at allif you die you can potentially go back and recover your shit but maybe someone will steal it in the time it will take and one's progression can maybe translate into differing and escalated magnitudes of kit that one spawns in withthere's also always the choice to try and make it back to a central node or a secondary one given form by the collective progression through the map to stow your winnings and shit for holding and cash and rewards and the like, maybe restock on ammo or procure a weapon made available for you for purchaseand more mysteries get uncovered and figured out by virtue of everyone's efforts contributingi'd never quit playing
>>564467947don't worry. i get about 4 shitty raids before i get 1 good raid.
>>564467976>who gives a shit about getting kills.How dare you say this in my thread. You disrespect me, the game, and God.
>>564467527I guess the point I'm trying to make is that those two games have a lot more going on than Marathon currently. Marathon is more polished than Anthem for sure, but its also way less ambitious outside of Cryo Archive.
>>564468092I don't want you to have a bad time, I meant it in a good why. I would ambush you with love, not hatred. I like your posts. And I would go through anything, just to get you.
wow dmarsh already feels better with 1 less team
>>564468206>AmbitiousWhat does this mean? Marathon is not attempting to be some overarching mega-franchise with puddle deep gameplay is a bad thing? The game obviously has different priorities when it comes to gameplay. You can't fucking compare PvE oriented loot treadmills to an extraction shooter with a PvP premise and then assume that every game needs to operate like it needs Crimson Desert amounts of filler content to operate. There's still a million niggers smashing their head into Dust II daily, so it's not like quantity is ever the factor when it comes to gameplay quality as a whole. Marathon in general does need an influx of content on each Season for sure, but it's not like the S1 content is the problem, the issue has more to do with retention on the whole because it's not attracting the magical casualfag as much as it's supposed to (according to /mg/ legends)
>>564468058>I'm gonna play sponsored dmarshMe too, I have bully free kits and nucaloric rifle kits
>>564468547>the issue has more to do with retention on the whole because it's not attracting the magical casualfagEveryone with a brain knows why. Looks weird, and is difficult to survive in. One wrong step, you get shot by bots+players, gassed by plants(lol), jumped by ticks+players, or get looked at by multiple, armed players.You have to be nearly perfect at planning to move, moving, choosing when to shoot, planning how you're gonna dodge in a certain area, to win in thise game.(or have two nerd boyfriends to help you)
>>564468820>You have to... >Learn to play the game.Shocking. I thought people wanted some sense of mastery. I guess doing Fent and hitting up the game like it's CoD with brains completely mushed is the way to develop the rest of the game to achieve record numbers. It's no wonder *** ******* is popular.
>do sponsored dmarsh>run into a guy with blue shieldshow the fuck
>>564469274They very rarely spawn from the guarded strongboxes (like many other blue items). Dude must have got insanely lucky.
>>564468820>the issue has more to do with retention on the whole because it's not attracting the magical casualfag as much as it's supposed toThis is a problem in Marathon's case because the game is at a point in this season to where it is extremely difficult to progress Priority Contracts to quickly level up or gain lore information for your Codex. The average launch player will curb stomp you or camp and snipe you on any Dire Marsh quest, which then turns people away and causes the playerbase to bleed out. And yeah, it is trying to be a big franchise. From the CG trailers and nonstop advertisements they weren't trying to be a niche game appreciated by 20k people tops, they wanted to become popular.
>>564469368>>564469274ever since the update I've seen shields drop with higher frequency from strong boxes.
>>564469368>>564469540Actually kind of scary honestly.
>>564469529>difficult to progress Priority Contracts>DM fill. trying to help a guy with a sekiguchi(?) contract where you call in a lockdown over anomoly>get killed at bio research>DM fill again>get the same guy but a different 3rd>activate lockdown>die at bio research again>switch to outpost fill i tried lol
>>564470762Imagine if you will, some kind of in game system that would allow you to party up with players on the same contract, or players interested in helping others with contracts. I call it “party finder” but idk if we’ll ever see technology as advanced as that in our lifetimes
>>564472081I think the game should do this as a bounty system. Let players put up a quest they need to do as a trio, player can add a reward (item, credits) and the completion of that nets other player the reward.
>found a blue key in a random crate in perimeterHonestly can't complain
>>564468082Too much “idea guy” posting. The reality is these systems crush under the weight of player “least resistance” methods. >Inwant zones to be wildly dynamic and UESC to respond and-Players spam grenades at X and Y and Z happens. Is still needs the qualities the post points out, but at a measured level.
Going into Outpost with a sponsored kit is just rude. >yeah bro I’m totally gonna mop up this purple team with wstr and 0 recoil attachments on their smgs with my Tracy’s rifleGg
>>564473704ok.jpg
>>564463824>some bush wookie or rat can lay you out in a split second with a gun he found in the mudbecause there's no scenario like that in marathon at all...
>>564474106Sniping as Assassin is so nasty
Did you guys know your volt weapons slowly reload while you have them out?
>>564432678people that bought the game aren't coming back, once they leave they're done with the game and bungie for that matter
>>564432678>no solo cryo
>>564381941marathon just needs to last until horizon hunters gathering comes out to not be labeled concord 4
>>564394607marathon x star wars
>>564474106>because there's no scenario like that in marathon at all...Correct, Marathon is an actual game, not overt zogbot propaganda for /k/ faggots, so it's not milsim trash and you can actually counter rats and pay attention.I don't remember bubble shields in Tarkov either
>>564475254the saga expandstrvely a concord cinematic universewhat other stuff besides battleborn might be precursors of the sordid affair at hand?
>>564474535>solo cryo
>>564475480Highguard wasn’t even a bad game. This whole culture war shit with video games has gone past its due date. But, that’s on the devs initially for pushing all this shot in games. Bungie didn’t help with their pronoun vidocs.
Just had a game of perimeter where I didn't hear a single gunshot the whole fucking game other than the ones between me and the freekit I killed in the first 2 minutes
>>564475597culture war?are you joking me?these are terrible, terrible titles, plain as that, being pushed to fruition with hundreds of millions of dollars behind them only for companies to sink in the wake of the serial plunges seen again and againalsohighguard wasn't bad?highguard wasn't fucking stale ignited dogshit in a paper bag on your front porch?what are you fucking on bro?holy fuck lmao
>>564475460
>>564475837>signing off post with lmao>that grammarWhat’s up Reddit. Highguard was fine I played that shit. Lurk before posting.
>>564475967>Highguard was fineyeahshit was so fine it got shut down for want of players in what like a month, free to play all the while?oh yeah buddy, big lmaorofling my lmao all over the place, evenholy fuck bro
stop the fucking presses bros highguard was pretty good actually that's why it doesn't exist anymoreoh manwowfucking cheeks are gonna start aching here soon just so goddamn funny holy shit
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAoh fuckhighguard was actually greatdamnholy fucking lmaooh my godoh wowholy fuckkekekekekekkekekek wewewewewew ladladladladladlad
https://voca.ro/144Dwi8NAXfathank you wow i needed that
oh fucklaughter is just so healthy guys never pass up the opportunity to have a really hearty giggle
>>564455631hey without halo you wouldnt have gotten to play marathon for 3 months
>>564475967>Highguard was finemarathon fans need to panic this guy likes your game.
>asked Claude for a routine and started lifting/doing bodyweight exercises in between rounds a few weeks ago when the queues began slowing down>helps burn a ton of the built up stress from playing >can feel my body getting stronger>clothes are fitting a little differently>sleeping betterout of character for Bungie to sacrifice themselves for my well-being but I’ll take it
Hipfire bully and hipfire volt thrower can really fucking shred
>>564476069>can’t formulate arguments>can only understand steamchart player counts>probably posts this >>564476384Legitimately embarrassing. I’m closing the thread out of second hand embarrassment. /vg/ generals are always shambles.
>>564475967>highguard was fineI’d trust klem with my life before you with my grocery list
Surely I'll succeed at cryo now
>>564477405get filtered fag
>>564477512Did you play Highguard>no I watched asmongold talk about itOh. Okay then.
>>564477663who the fuck fucking played highguard lmaooh thank you thank you thank you for the hyena wheezing and delirious giggling holy shit
>>564409620This means they're intent on making huge changes and additions to the game, right? Right?
>>564477793>doesn’t understand the irony of posting this in a Marathon thread>lmao why would I play marathon game is woke ass trash with 0 players lmao
Highguard crashed and burned because it was objectively mid, or 5/10. Marathon lingers on because it's objectively 7/10 or 7.5/10, painfully so because it could/could've been 9/10 if they used their 250 million wisely.
>>564477836is it really the slightest bit feasible that the ship can possibly be set back afloat at this point?i don't see how. it would be some serious shit were the sudden implementation of co-op and pve stuff, basically what's requisite to get a massively wider audience to what, draw in tens of thousands of people basically overnight? can't see it mang. no way.>>564477946bro you are really huffing this culture war bullshit where have i termed anything 'woke', the game is just a fucking turd. so was highguard but you're welcome to insist otherwisein fact please do
>>564477447I always just find the need for an overall map layout to be rather unnecessary in this game. Most areas and map layers are pretty rife with landmarks and when it comes to map-oriented item spawns, you can generally just comb the areas with the highest amount of spawns first and with experience that also comes around easily. I think if someone plays Cryo for weeks on end and still has issues with the general layout, they must have quite the poor sense of direction to begin with.
>>564477447They've apparently silently patched spawn rushing on Cryo so people can't vent rush and skip getting level 2 clearance
>>564478537I don't think it was ever intentional and i think they simply forgot to double check the map layout, so people would just slip into a habit of spawn rushing, wouldn't really be atypical from Bungie.
>>564478603Wouldn't surprise me
>>564478312I'd pretty solidly disagree, Cryo is not quite a turbo labyrinth, but the hallways are samey enough that it's not quite clear the patterns that exist even weeks in. Especially if you're not succeeding at whatever runs you get in. Then there's the extremely randomized nature of where tags/monitors/batteries can be, it's been tremendously helpful to make that map just to internalize where stuff can be, as well as to minimize the confusion when doing vaults, since fucking around for an extra two minutes trying to find the monitors can pretty easily mean you get backdoored and murdered, or miss an exfil.Just knowing shit like each spawn has the same structure of 2 rooms, an SC1 exit to Control, an SC2 exit to Control, and SC2 paths to adjacent areas was not something inherently obvious. Or that north/south are mirrored but north is frosty, the little nuances of vaults 1/4 looking like they're closest to Index/Cargo but actually being accessed via Steerage/Revival.Honestly just having scanners on a map is probably the biggest thing I actually look at it for, it's miserable trying to find those on the fly.
>>564477274What do you do?
>>564475460>not overt zogbot propaganda>the game where every runner is transgender, the art style was stolen from a transgender, every shell is either black or flat as a board, and everything looks like someone ate a big bowl of corporate memphis and shat it onto a canvas:pregnantman:
:pregnantman:
oh boy time to begin measuring today's gape
:rapebungie:
I actually don’t bring the shotgun in anymore to most matches. It makes you think about engagements in bad ways where you hug corners really tight and go into coin flip shootouts with other wstr users.As soon as you put space between yourself and most teams in tight quarters, they fall apart.
>>564480489Everyone swapped to gold BRRT anyways.
>>564480489WSTR is still great at the knife range as you can just dump both barrels and use quick melee. The downside is that you need sucker punch chip.
All maps should have a free kit mode, it's based as fuck. I can kill 2 squads alone while my teammates watch(downed)
This guy just walks around town half naked with his cat, his little doodling notebook and his collection of ps5 games
>>564482490Being a local village idiot must be ingrained in his genes
>>564482490Xbox games too, problem is, there's none coming out>ForzaFuck off
Yo who finna be tryna play Invincible?I'm gonna play for a couple of hours, and probably get back on Marathon, the best shooter on the market right now.Forreal tho I only played Pragmata once and dropped it.
>>564482490Just report the guy. Tired of these celebrities in the site. They ruin every topic and conversation. Pretty sure that other “Bungie rape” guy got banned to.
>>564482490seriously majestic free-range lulzcowreally take it in while you get to see it, it's pretty extraordinary
I can like other games along with Marathon, but there's no time to play them.When I spend the day playing another game, I become weaker on Marathon. I make mistakes.>Playing only Marathon everyday on Xbox and Ps5After this, I'm fucking perfect, a god, zero mistakes, people can't touch me.
>>564483039>Pretty sure that other “Bungie rape” guy got banned to.Raping bungie is thread culture, sis.
>>564483039you cant ban Calus
>>564483039>Just report the guy.faggot behavior
>5,260 players right nowwonder how many players would have stuck around for solo cryo
>>564483039>Just report the guy.rape victim mentality
>>564483868it would've been a scifi-horror experience of the decade. too bad bungie has an iron rod up their ass
Haven't yet been to cryo. What's a reasonable first goal without a key? Just loot random shit and try to exfil?
>>564484650>without a keyKill everyone >with a keyKill everyone and then get your loot
>>564484650Getting comfortable with the map and exfilling yeah. Your first 10 runs are basically just gonna be you dying while you learn the ins and outs. You can watch a video guide telling you everything but it's one thing to watch and another to actually be in there, since it can be an overwhelming maze when you first drop in and the map barely helpsWhen you don't have a team of 3 the truth is you'll never fully be "comfortable" with cryo, but if you can reach a point where you know how to get to security clearance 3 and exfil, and know some of the routes you can take to get to places and also memorise loot rooms you can crack open with your security level, then I'd say you can start taking in keys. My personal recommendation would be to not do a vault until either a random brings in a key or you loot one off a dead body so you can do a 'test run' and get used to hunting down batteries and coolant and credentials in case you decide to take your own key later and get matched with knuckleheads who don't know how to crack a vault.
>>564444708Why do you think coca cola is advertising? The game can absolutely have new peaks if they make meaningful changes and advertise it, the problem is not ruining it in the process (though i believe that the biggest problem is baseless hate and advertising can change it directly without changing the game itself)
Why does this game attract so many trannies?
It's a game about rape after all...
>>564488626Most games within the last five years I like get swarmed by trannies for some reason. I think I must've pissed off some evil witch in a previous life and have a curse. Sorry guys, I probably caused this.
>>564488626>gamers are losers>trannies are losers>thus, gamers are trannies
>both Marathon and Destiny playercount so low that it takes ages to match anythingis there any other online games to play atm outside these two until their playercount goes back up?i really want to play them but the long queue times makes me want to slam my head against a wall
>>564491867Marvel Rivals just released another free PvE mode
>>564367774I think they need to maybe push up their release schedule for the new maps and finally add the pfthor in
>>564491867Old call of duty games on their modded pc clients, pick your poison
>>564488626>You can put your faggot troon mind in a new body/shellIt's a mystery, anon.
>>564488626It's tranhumanist, nevermind the fact that you're a slave you can wear the body of a corporate sponsored killing machine who just happens to have lipstick on, so heckin powerful!
I feel like people have written off trap packs and don't use them anymore, or at least I never see them, you can make good use of them with a bit of creativity. I crave silly kills in these types of games, on our way into Command Wing I opened the bottom door and dropped a trap pack facing the sentry that spawns there, my teammate was downed so before I rez'd him I asked him to crawl all around the bag to leave that blue trail around the bag, dropped a few items around the bag. Rook took the bait as we were in the wing. Another facet people miss is how you can shoot them to explode for a ton of damage. I lined up the doorway with them and was pre-aiming the bags while my team looted. Exploded another rook on his way in with a WSTR. Everyone just walks right over them since everyone's immediate thought is "You really think I'm gonna fall for that and loot this?" before it explodes by a bullet.
>343 is working on a Halo extraction shooter
>>564494646>a bunch of jeet contractors figured out how to put an animation over the screen before you dc from a matchftfy, remember when Halo Studios (formerly 343) were working on a battleroyale in the lead up to infinity?
>>564474106Correct, there are no 1 tap mechanics in marathon. Closest we ever came to tarkovs TTK was the WSTR and it got nerfed into the fucking dirt, but even then it was still leagues worse than the worst guns in tarkov.
>>564468551>bully free kitI really dont like the bully with out attachments. The volt rifle from nucal and dmr from traxis go pretty hard when people are running around in white shields.
>3 squads go into the same building>porn groove music starts playing
>>564495991your railgun?
Go chud, go broke. Should've appealed to the rich furry and trans puppygirl crowd.
>>564480851>WSTR is still great at the knife range as you can just dump both barrels and use quick melee. The downside is that you need sucker punch chip.it no longer downs green shields with point blank body shots. WSTR is trash now.
>>564496374sorry boss, that shit doesnt 1 tap either.
>>564496471this feels forced / bad faith given that triage is straight out of the jungle nig while the same people lose their mind if debra wilson is in a game. At best this is out of touch with reality which is the norm for these weirdos
>>564496285>I really dont like the bully with out attachments.I use no attachment weapons very often, even with custom loadouts. It's like a mini-game, if I can get kills with those, and pick up custom weapons, it's like I buffed myself. Or leveled up during a match, got stronger. If I die I'm not blaming the items, I'm just not going to repeat that mistake, in that particular part of the map.No attachments is fun to me.
My favourite bit of lore is how the people who made the schematics for the Thief shell decided to just use the facial construction of one of the doctors working on the sekiguchi team because she was hot af>>564497320By your logic though they'd probably leap over the moon with joy when they learn the Triage series is mostly implied to be used by Traxus wage slaves working in shit conditions
>two runners duking it out at final exfil>snuck in as rook at the very last second with a bunch of good shitNice.
>>564497871Oh damn I didn't know that, it actually makes more sense now. Thanks for the insight
>>564497746>No attachments is fun to me.It only works as far as you're using guns that already are within their effective range. Take anything that has horrible ironsights and put in some distance between the enemy and a good optic becomes a necessity. Doesn't apply to bully because you barely ever shoot above 30m. Add any more then that and it'll become painful to use any gun without attachments.
>>564497320I hate Triage's design, but I hate Debra Wilson more. Maybe if Triage showed up in every game my feelings would change, but its not going to happen.
>>564498460Sure, but i think the bully is just pure ass until you get an extended mag and an optic on it. All the volt weapons seem pretty strong stock, the overrun really wants a bigger mag, and the precision rifle needs an optic.
>>564497961No probs. Honestly the codex is the best part of this game, shame people don't talk about it more in the thread but coming across stuff yourself can be just as fun. Some other fun shell facts in case you haven't exfilled enough or don't read the codex>Triage's personality matrix is originally "too nice", so runners often hack and mess with the matrix so they can get access to more aggressive behaviours>Destroyer shells are a common staple among high profile corpo security teams despite supposedly being illegal>Vandal shells are basically MIDA propoganda meant to attract people to the cause with the flashy martian streetwear, designer fashion and super human agility and arm cannon>It's heavily implied in the Recon entry that all UESC designed shells had a built in "command;follow" protocol, basically meaning that runners utilising the shells and being ordered around by the UESC are highly likely to obey orders without questioning them (this was jailbroken by Runners, and UESC shell production has mostly been halted supposedly because of the media catching onto this)>The Assassin's 'Void', Recon's 'Blackbird' and Destroyer's 'Locus' series shells all had UESC involvement in their development>Thief was rumoured to be first implemented for use by Sekiguchi's black ops teams but then the schematics for it got leaked and Runners quickly started making use of the shell>>564499485His face doesn't look too bad when they actually colour it differently and I think the default looks good, but it's just the heavy focus on always making his face black that kinda makes it come off that way I think. Destroyer's exposed face has a similar phenotype, but because all the shell cosmetics go through the effort of recolouring his face you don't really notice it as much, kinda like how you don't notice Thief is meant to be asian when most cosmetics give her a caucasian tone or make it the base grey shell look
>be Traxus Wage Drone #24601>take a break from number crunching to do some runs on Tau Ceti>get clowned on by a Destroyer after trying to be friendly>he tells me to go back to Arc Raiders>Isn't that a retro game?
>>564500198Genuinely pretty cool, but it's too bad that for the nature of this game, the lore is a relevance below even just set dressing and isn't actually important in any way.
>>564485523> start taking in keysThis imho is what will be one of the final nails in the coffin if Bungie doesn’t do any changes, it’s too fucking random and way too much of a time sink of slot machine pulls to get them all and obviously just having them is no guarantee working up to Compilier. No I don’t think it’s wrong to have an end game aspirational thing but the biggest problem with that segment of things is nothing prior sets you up to getting in the groove for key farms and it’s where I think a lot of people will be way too burnt out and just feel like they wasted too much time doing other shit and not even realize it. I’m sure there’s already some min/max roadmap of when to stop quests or faction leveling to just dedicate to keys but even then I’ve come across people who had jack shit for upgrades at the expense of maybe a few more keys stashed than me who ran all the quests and have most of the worthwhile faction upgrades. It’s not impossible but even when you’re playing good and have been running shit, you could have loads of hours and not really a ton of luck. Bungie are fucking dickheads that they actually had subroutines not guaranteed at first. Lastly I think Bungie is getting false impressions things are tuned ok when checking in on streamers not realizing they could ask chat if they got keys and use peoples efforts as their chances.
>>564500573>the lore is a relevance below even just set dressing and isn't actually important in any way.It sets the world building just fine. It's not like the game is solely focused on giving you much beyond a series of snippets. It's not much different to Destiny in that sense and instead of continuing to keep an air of longer term mystery, people said the game had no story...
>>564500198I give a lot of credit there when the hero characters were never in the cards and it’s half way convincing. Also love how people argue “it was always going to be heroes” yet 99.9%,probably 100? refers to you as a Runner and not a Shell
>>564500198Would love if I could casually just explore the world and learn about stuff like this rather than being stuck in a BR. There are so many opportunities for environmental story telling but I feel like I can't slow down and just look around
Ticks and Turrets are my mortal enemies
>>564467976I care about kills, if I wanted to just pick random bullshit up I could just clean my house with the OST on. It's a fucking PvP game.
>>564500767It does the bare minimum of giving shells some backstory maybe. I wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt for the fact that this is only season 1 of a forever game.>>564463426You lost your chance. Hope the game still has players after the wipe and start from there if possible
If this game had customizable shells and cosmetics that you find on the map and have to extract with, I would be playing 8 hours a day to get the perfect looking toon. Shame it ended up being what it is.
>>564467976>just grab the goytoys and leaveplay REPO or Lethal Company they're way more fun
Bungie should've made the heroes more non-human, but they're cowards.The UESC are cooler, but they're still too humanoid.Take advantage of the premise more.
>>564501662They already fucking ruined Destiny with excess amount of of customization and crossovers. The same happened to most Valve games, so i'd rather the fucking game keeps a focus on the things that matter (Gameplay content like maps and events). The fucking "customization" is such a fucking nothingburger thing to get fixated on that i'll never understand it. Should we add wings as a customization option too, so we can complete the full descent into faggotry?
>>564500198It’s a real shame this a video game though and not a fucking book
>>564502191The S'pht are right there and the game is going into EoS before we ever get to see them
>>564500198The writing is a mixed bag, but enough of it is legitimately good that it just makes me sad they couldn't be bothered to make a singleplayer campaign mode.
I still want the Codex to be more interactive. It should feel like you’re on a terminal, keyword highlighting, prompts, files, little hacking things.
>>564501662>muh toonCharacter customisation is ass. Thank god we have actual characters.
>>564502857Nyes... typing commands to access different menus etc...Consoletards on suicide watch.
>>564502595The upside of live service games is basically infinite, only maniacs and actual small indies are making single player games anymore. It’s literally always correct to try to make a live service hit, every other studio is more than happy to bet the house on treadmills.
>>564500668The compiler clear rate so far must be at about 1.7% of players
>>564475597>Highguard wasn’t even a bad game.I watched the gameplay breakdown and on its Steam page and that didn't sound fun. It didn't look good, either. I don't like that particular flavor of fantasy aesthetic it was going for.
>>564475597>Highguard wasn’t even a bad gameI wouldn't be surprised if the no-taste Highguard fans are the remaining Marathon players
>>564477447I wish there was a way to just walk around Cryo Archive. Other maps have Rook for that.
>>564503026extremely jewish post
>>564502196You jest but I guarantee at least a dozen retards would buy this game immediately if they added KMMO wings to it.
>>564503026Me when I hear something l, half remember it, and then regurgitate it without thinking
>>564500198>>Vandal shells are basically MIDA propoganda>>Thief was rumoured to be first implemented for use by Sekiguchi's black ops teamsSome time ago, I wrote a post about how it would be great if we could fully customize shells, and the ones we have at the moment were faction presets, sort of like free kits. I assigned Vandal to MIDA and Thief to Sekiguchi. I'm glad that my intuition was correct. Also,>The Assassin's 'Void', Recon's 'Blackbird' and Destroyer's 'Locus' series shellsIt's interesting that shells have series, like a subclass. Sure would be a shame if Bungie never used this. If we won't get customization, then I'd at least like each shell to have a male and female variant. It would be cool if a female Triage stored the med drones on her "space buns", as opposed to storing them on the thighs.
>>564503551I believe he's speaking from a business standpoint, cuz obviously live services have the potential to make soooo much money with MTX than singleplayer vidya. It's why the current state of gaming is so raped and why we got Rapeathon instead of Marathon
What are all the places you can find a conveyance request in now? Found one in Orientation, is it just around the map now
raped by the monkey
>>564503026shalom
>>564503895I think they kind of went halfway with the hero/customization system and we will get new shells under the archetypes but they are a different series.
>doing welcome center key in solos>just as I go to leave I hear player footsteps outside the lobby entrance>"come on man, we don't need to do this">footsteps proceed>peek with reboot active and zap the recon trying to fuck me>dip back into the room, charge up railgun and blam them in the gut as I walk out>check his bag after finishing him>purple salvage, mostly blue loadout, contract item, nicely modded bully>can't take most of his shit so just leave them there>exfil camera cuts to a thief picking apart the remains of the recon 6 mins later when I leaveI don't really know why but this kill feels like it'll stay with me. I don't feel guilty, but it was just such an uneccassary reason for them to die, and they died in a way I'd never be able to likely replicate, and they had good shit which I didn't even end up taking and some random (likely freekit) just ended up stripping them down. Weird feeling desu.>>564429487dagger love
>>564504002wrong pic
>>564502595>PicThat's a complete nitpick. The 3 salvage entries are pretty much the only ones like that. Everything else is pretty interesting, including the entries for specific types of salvage. My favorite is pic related so far.
>>564504002>1488 playersholy fucking basedathon
>>564495991>Correct, there are no 1 tap mechanics in marathonNever implied there was 1 taps you colossal faggot, please grasp basic English before you post. TTK is abysmally low even with purple shields, so the invis rat dosn't need the wstr, same result with bully if they're half competent
>>564504359The only problem I have with this is that it seems like this is a Cascadian-specific tech, so>sale where?They're 300-ish years away from Earth with Cascadian technology. Did the colony really have that developed of an economy before its collapse?It is a neat technological idea though.
>>564500198>Destroyer's exposed face has a similar phenotypeFull lips don't make something African coded. Destroyer's VA is also Asian. He could be anything, which is why he works well as a protagonist.
>>564503650I would love for them to add gaudy flashing cosmetics that immediately gave away enemy players from 200m away. >tfw you down the kimono wearing neon pink halo and angel wings with flaming devil horns and cherry blossom bloom aura lvl 50 thief and all they have is an unmodded overrun and 2 patch kits
>>564503895>It would be cool if a female Triage stored the med drones on her "space buns"Now I'm just imagining the healing goo inside the drones being sourced from her chest>It's interesting that shells have series, like a subclass. Sure would be a shame if Bungie never used thisI'd like to think they'll do something with it, though I imagine this might have been a "if we have a huge playerbase, we can use this as a potential MTX thing down the line to keep the game running and money rolling in" type of deal. Doesn't mean it's off the table, but seeing as it's gonna take a whole season at best to get 1 (one) new shell when the current shells are already ripped Destiny 2 abilities, and they seemed to have not dropped a new store cosmetic for this week, my faith isn't high
>>564499485>but I hate Debra Wilson moreOnly when she is face scanned, I hope. She is a great voice actor. I loved her performance in Bugsnax and Deadlock.
>>564505061Sale back on Sol. The whole idea was the long con for corporate. They finance the entire ordeal to get to Tau Ceti, because they know about the Bill Clinton Wrk conversation back in the 90s. They know something is out there and SOMETHING about TC4 during those scans said "there's something here". The UESC and Corps don't give a shit about what happened to the colony. They give a shit about salvaging what they learned while they were there and starting up RnD again for new technology and power.
>>564503895>If we won't get customization, then I'd at least like each shell to have a male and female variantIf that happened, we'd never see Void in a match again.
>>564505061At their peak they had what 30 thousand active colonists, even if it's a collective colony you still need the trappings of civilization. They likely had a retinue of corporate representatives from all the major groups there to help establish basic commerce.
>noooo my fuckin WSTR I can't corner camp around a door anymore and punish people trying to press an advantage with no counterplay NOOOOOOOOI hate people like this so much, you knew it was imbalanced, you knew it literally shaped the endgame meta along with grenades and bubbles and you still have the audacity to bitch about it.
>>564505629That makes a lot more sense; I had been under the impression that it was a couple thousand people at most.
>>564504796>Never implied there was 1 taps you colossal faggot, Anon, were talking about a game that does. It's called Escape from Tarkov, we were comparing the lethality of weapons in that game to that of Marathon.Part of makes tarkov work is that any gun in the game can kill any player in any amount of gear with a single shot to good ol "head, eyes".This IMO makes the game fucking boring.>TTK is abysmally low even with purple shields, so the invis rat dosn't need the wstr, same result with bully if they're half competentOkay, but there is no split second kills in this game when you are wearing adequate armor. Even your best example has a wind up time, and the only time it does immediately down (NOT KILL) the player had shit gear on. it's not point and click like the worst guns tarkov which, again, are all capable of killing some one with a face shot. Even with the worst armor in the game nothing can 1 tap you, you can always self revive or be revived in a down state by a friend. Tarkov is not like that, you eat lead to the face and its back to the stash. Does that clear it up for you?
All I know is that the 343 Halo extraction shooter will be killed in the cradle because of these faggots teabagging failed ventures.
>>564505629>They likely had a retinue of corporate representativesIn one of the cryo codex entries (think it's the UESC ship model?) this is actually confirmed since they literally list out the head reps for CyAc and NuCal. Not sure if Traxus had a rep, which is weird since they were responsible for funding the ship building side of things
>>564390180is it so hard to believe marathon is popular in north america and not popular in japan so a north america only sales comparison will be more favorable to it than a japanese game? to say nothing of china.
>>564507025Japanese gamers only play Gatcha, 20 year old rhythm games, and Dragon Quest
>>564501004>There are so many opportunities for environmental story telling but I feel like I can't slow down and just look aroundI had one moment where I really got to feel that enviromental effect and it's made me a staunch believer that the game has this in abundance but you just have to risk potentially being domed but the payoff can be worth it. I was looting the locked room in quarantine which is actually a morgue and found the emotional support plush sitting on top of a covered up corpse. At first I just assumed it was RNG making a darkly humorous joke and the stars aligned but then you read the codex entry for the plush and found out that the owner of the toy (a 12 year old girl) ended up getting infected and going to quarantine and dying from the anomaly disease that fucked with everyone. I can't walk past quarantine now without thinking about that moment, or thinking about how sad Joy sounded talking to herself, or about how this likely wasn't an isolated incident and many kids in New Cascadia suffered the same fate. Any time I queue up now for marsh I have the knowledge that there's the corpse of a little girl just sitting there while we kill each other, and sometimes when I look at other codex entries and hear kids I feel this pang in my stomach hoping that I don't see the name Elizabeth appear.Dire Marsh doesn't feel the same anymore after that, and it's fully convinced me people that say there's little to no story just aren't trying enough to engage with the game
