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>>564670083hide this from leffen...
How difficult is May now actually? Everyone keeps saying hmmmmmm well nyou see she has tricky combos now
>cat speech
>>564670942>tricky combosits still just upback j.H > win
>>564662952 #Yeah I’ve noticed it’s basically I either get in early and kill them on my first JR or they get away early and I down back for the rest of the game until I die. Haven’t had much luck installing full screen and trying to run in
Gio is ugly.
>>564672551Objectively the most attractive GG character.
>>564672682gio would be hotter if her hair was only slightly longer...
>>564671180>>564670465>>564670956Wow Giovanna, how come Daisuke lets you have all the merch
>>564673575Comes with the territory of being popular.
UGOKANAIDE
What's her theme name again? Something about a brutish impulse?
>>564679514Gio's theme is Trigger, if that's what you're asking.
>>564679953Ah yes, the silent preacher.
>>564680081Do NOT post this gif againEverPlease
>>564680245I'm trying to tell you now, it's sabotage
Yes, that May
>>564682353do not saucenao this
>>564682353may's creepy smile is doing it for me
>>564682646w-why...?
are the servers shitting themselves.
unigga is absurd
>>564684279>pressures you with infinite plus frames>attacks you safely with massive disjoints>zone you out with near instant, full screen projectilesggs shake my hand
Anyone got anymore Brownphelt art?
>>564684619and they simplified her execution and made her more consistent for all the double mouth breathers
I wonderdid the money they spent on both Troon Dualers and Ungaka even turn out a profit?
>>564685886Anime being funded by a production committee of different companies all chipping in probably mitigated whatever loss Dual Rulers being a bomb would've caused on Arcsys
>>564684279>>564684619People keep telling me her slide is punishable and I’ve yet to get anything but a c.K that is so far away it leads into nothing
I think Ky Kiske is fun as fuck to play in StriveAnd yes, I DO think white bread is fucking delicious.
>>564686271>And yes, I DO think white bread is fucking delicious.cus it is :)
>>564686343Based fellow white bread appreciator.
yeah this game sucksback to dbfz
yeah this game sucksback to 2xko
>>564687071white bread and balogna hits just right
yeah this game is funback to matchmaking
yeah this game sucksback to elphelt porn
>>564684619one of those three things actually happens>>564686246it is -17 so you should get fS/2S/5H/2H or even 6H depending on your character's ranges
>>564689482Only one of those DOESN'T happen and that is people shaking my hand. Because they are too asshurt they lost to Unika.
>>564686246>c.K
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>>564689982grubbers run this general
>>564686271Based honestCHAD.
>6 year old fighter>with hundreds worth of paid dlc>still charging more than 5 bucks for the base gamegreedy ass niggas
at what rank do people stop bursting low damage starters, or worse, non-oki enders?
>>564692773i see why you guys hate johnny with the beard now
>>564692738They charge for the damn colors the whole game is just a money racket
>>564687326>gets hit once>character dies>gets hit once on the incoming mixup>GAME!And I though Strive had damage problems christ
>>5646937752xko literally doesn't have incoming mixupit is ass, though
>>564693953ah damn My miss on the incoming mix, just tired of games making everything do BAZINGA damage
>>564692738>6(5) year old fighter
>>564694401the damage is pretty outrageousit wouldn't be as bad if the chars with outrageous mix and mobility didn't do as much damage as the slow ass unga characters with no mix and no mobility, but alas
>>564686271Minecraft sword
>>564693421>[fighting games are] just money racket[s]many such cases
>>564689482This is what I’m saying. It’s supposed to be unsafe but I literally never get a punish somehow. ABA’s buttons aren’t THAT slow to startup
>>564692738at least they don't have server checks to prevent creamapi like SF6
Leffen
Okay, so I have to know. Is there a startup window for when I do my faultless defense, like with pre-jump frames?Because TWICE now, I've lost down to the wire games because I get counterhit when doing FD. I checked the replays and I have meter too. Wtf is happening here?
>>564698063ABA can literally fS 2H install against red gun dipper. That was the character I tried when you brought it up.
>>564701195are you using a macro bind? If you are FDing manually(by pressing 2 buttons), you might get one button a frame before the other and get hit during that 1 frame before it kara-cancels into FD.
>>564697985why is his sword fucking flat and blunt
>>564701609That might be it anon, thank you. I'll see about switching some macros around
>>564701195>>564702347So here's the deal with FD. You can cancel normals into FD during their startup, so unless you press both button truly simultaneously you're actually getting a normal and then cancelling into FD. On the ground / when blocking generally the FD macro is preferable as it avoids this issue, though there are still cases where you want to make use of this behaviour (superflash reactions, 6P FD OS). In the air it's faster to cancel an air dash into FD manually than my using the macro.
They should make an otome game where the romance options are Kizzie, Leffen, Sonic Sol and Load Knight
>>564702803...OK, but why?
do we have a tier list yet? I need the copium. I'm not bad, I just play a low tier character, and if it's a high tier character then the characters I lose against are just bad matchups, and if they aren't they take no skill and they don't count, and my character is too hard.
>>564703080You have Leffen's lmao
>>564703074Girls deserve to have fun
>>564703220That's all they wannaor so I heard
>>564703080My main - FEveryone - S and broken
>>564702803Sonic Sol clears. He got the cake.
>>564704453is that really him? i had a friend who was borderline fusing his flesh with his bed/couch fusion.
How do I become good at playing Giovanna?
>>564705160More whiff punishing with Dash+5H.
How close do we need to be to EVOJ before we're allowed to start making crazy predictions?>>564703080>and my character is too hard.For real on this one for me.>>564705160Dash 5K.
>>564704453I legit can't tell if it's his fat ass, or him being such a fatass it's his sides spilling out.
why isnt Baikens 6H and overhead?
>>564705717once you are fat enough, there''s no difference between your ass and the rest of your torso. hell, once you are American fat there's barely any difference between your ass and your limbs.
>>564702803ok but is there a way for tempest to grab my ass
imagine if they banned happy chaos instantly when he dropped and was completely brokenhow different would the game look, like would asw have taken notice of that and actually tried to fix the character a little?
>>564705918Goldlewisbros...
>>564705160Spam the plus on block knee that frametraps into itself. She's SFV Bison
>>564705160
>>564706104He's just bulking ok....
>>564708598kekAre Giovanna players the Sheep players of /ggg/?
>>564670465yo, why does this button not stop matchmaking completely? why does it turn on again after i unpause?
>>564708598geeb id reel :--DDD
>>564709149arcsys not to smart
>>564709149soulful arcsys jank
Don't know if this a milia thing or what, but air dashes with ambiguous cross ups are obnoxious as hell, especially when you can do multiple
Matsui (ZA) and Nok (BA) playing on Honkan SSL if you wanna watchthat one Robo-Ky too
I just think this shit is unreasonable and unintuitive in a game where hitboxes generally make sense. An excessive universal nerf that did not take into account how some characters were originally designed around having an anti-air C.S like Nago and Giovanna. Why is every character paying for Slayers sins?If you come at me with some shit like "Nago is top tier!" No, he hasnt been top tier for a long time, and you havent fought a good enough nagoryuki to be complaining about that.
>>564717428The dumbest people on earth are bitching that a close slash in the corner shouldn't force a jump opponent to airblock. Do they want to make Fuzzy jump stronger, again? probably not, they dont even know what fuzzy jump is if theyre complaining like this
>>564698009I started after it was already a thing in strive and sf6 but I feel like older games didn't do this. Xrd and Blazblue have them in the in game shop which is pretty much free and +R just gives you everything and also has MORE colors.
>>564719062Xrd Rev 2 had previous DLC colors and announcers for free but they were paid dlc at one point. Don't expect that same treatment for strive.
>>564717428Nago is top 3 currently, but Fatashi still has a point. It's retarded for the opponent to phase through your attacks just because they happened to be in the air, that shit should be left to shit games like SF and CotW. If you don't want c.S to anti-air, fucking animate them hitting closer to the ground. I fucking hate when they "rebalance" a move without considering the animation and the end result is the game looking nonsensical.
>>564716995Thanks for the heads up, I'll save it. Pretty good May too.
>>564719062>>564719372The difference is that +R and Rev 2 had to be purchased separately. It's a different monetization scheme. It sucks and I definitely prefer the older model where you get a full game with your purchase, but it's an effect of the enshittification of video games as a whole, not limited to just fighters.
I am a lowly plat elphelt and I decided to try jack-o for fun and I just got such a string of lucky opponents I got placed in diamondim not ready for a pounding
So you guys lied when you said anti-airs were consistent in this game, and faked the orgasm when I said i chose Giovana to main. The directional inputs for both DP and 6P make it impossible to anti air consistently when you never know if they're going to cross you up or double jump.
don't tell him about 4P
>>564721694what are you talking about, you mean 5p?
>>564721114Oh yeah, even ignoring the direction issue, all anti-airs work on hitbox interaction basis, meaning that their jump-in can easily beat or trade with your anti-air if it hits deep enough. 6P is especially dogshit for actually anti-airing since most of them hit in front of you instead of above you, meaning that they only anti-air people airdashing towards you and do jack-shit to anyone actually jumping over you. Then you have airborne specials like Megafist and Bandit Bringer which are straight-up designed to beat 6P. Anyone saying the game has consistent anti-airs is lying through their teeth. The only consistent anti-air in the game is instant air-throw.
>>564702803Kinda wild that people still remember the Load Knight thing like 4 years later
>>564717428this guy was there for the first betahe knows why they did all this shit
>>564723149no, they mean 4P. If they double jump on the same side, you get 5P which recovers fast. If they cross you up, it becomes a 6P.
>>564725252idiot who wants to press a single button whenever they see someone in the air and instantly win. Go play under night or some other dogshit game that has terrible air options. 6P works against the vast majority of air moves and people being able to bait it out of mouthbreathers like you doesn't make it bad, it just means you're mashing 6P as soon as you see someone leave the ground because you can't understand how a Y axis works.
>>564730189Anti-airs beating out air options is what it means to have consistent anti-airs. There's nothing necessarily wrong with having inconsistent anti-air options that don't work on half the aerial options in the game, but it would be wrong to call those options consistent.Many games opt to have anti-airs that are straight-up invincible against aerial attacks after only a few frames of start-up. You can still bait these moves and have anti-anti-airs by for example having air stalls and such that make a mistimed anti-air completely whiff, but it means that the anti-air will beat the aerial move instead of trading or flat-out losing to it because "lmao my jump-in is disjointed". And of course, most games have anti-airs that actually hit above your character instead of hitting in front of your character so you have some way to prevent people from jumping over you.
>>564731758your 6P is going to win against jump buttons in this game unless you timed it wrong. They are incredibly consistent as long as you aren't stupid about it. Some of them have amazing vertical reach and some don't. Know where yours hits and it'll work consistently.There are characters with extra anti-airs that hit directly upwards, however you'll notice that those moves tend to not be large enough to catch double jump since that's just movement. You beat this by moving. If someone double jumps, they can't airdash anymore, so simply taking a step forward puts them in your threat range as they fall and you can easily hit them.If you don't actually know how I'm jumping at you, you deserve to lose.This would be like making all fS moves reach fullscreen to prevent people baiting a whiff by running forward and stopping. That's what a double jump does.Making moves completely immune to air attacks is a poor balancing decision since it just makes anti-air moves god even for people that suck at timing. If you can't get the hitbox out in time you deserve to lose.
>>564730189Ain't no way you're talking bad about uni while playing STRIVE
>>564732617>your 6P is going to win against jump buttons in this game unless you timed it wrong.So you don't actually play this game, do you?
holy essays today
>>564732734it's actually amazing to me how jumping in strive is better than jumping in under night. I don't know how they did it but they really just made air movement in uni fucking horrible if you aren't playing one of 5 designated air mover characters.
>>564733014You're on something, and I don't just mean the hrt
>>564732806
>>564733594>Not starting the j.HS as soon as you leave the groundEither intellectually dishonest or you actually don't play the game at all.
>>564733192it sickens me that the makers of melty blood created this thing where you literally aren't allowed to jump over the other character ever
>>564733852
>>564732806this shit isn't even that complex. 6P is high enough to hit ram before the sword touches the feet. you're dogshit.
>>564734427>>564734817You won't be able to do that consistently in a match though, which was the point of this conversation. It's like demonstrating that you can IB punish some move as counter-play.
Wasn't part of the patch before the last one that they nerfed that j.H's hurtbox with the explicit purpose of making it more consistently 6P'able?
>>564735179if you know you have the time to do it, you can.If you can analyze the situation and know you won't hit the timing, simply don't press it.entirely a user skill issue."waaah waaah my 6P doesn't instant win against people in the air"you wouldn't live a moment in a real fighting game with actual air movement
>>564735396Not the hitboxes, just the frame data
>>564717428>he hasnt been top tier for a long time, and you havent fought a good enough nagoryuki to be complaining about that.You're retarded or being disingenuous. Nago wasn't top 1 last patch, but he was still respectably strong and easily a contender for top 5-7 range. This patch, if not for Happy Chaos, he would be top 1 and it's hardly even close. Him losing such an insane c.S antiair and still being this busted is just puts into perspective how insane he is now. And I've fought the best Nagos in NA this patch and it is just retarded how they get away with bullshit that should get him killed for. He received virtually no nerfs and only got buffed with a new broken special while characters worse than him got gutted
>>564735396>>564735686no, it was back in 1.09https://www.guiltygear.com/ggst/en/news/post-1342/#ram
>>564735498Again, I'm not saying that inconsistent anti-airs are necessarily bad, just that they aren't consistent, just like IBing a non-reactable move to make it punishable isn't consistent because the 2f window is far too small to consistently hit against moves with large cancel windows and not enough start-up to be reactable.Yes, anti-airs were even more inconsistent in older anime games and thus air movement was even stronger. But just because something was even more inconsistent in the past doesn't make it consistent now.There are plenty of fighters with consistent anti-airs, and a lot of those have far more air movement than Strive, so I dunno why you keep bringing that up.
>>564736128it is consistent tho. This is far from a 2F window and it isn't something you must engage with. You're just bad.I bring up other games because no, the majority of games with more air movement than strive do not have strong anti-airs, you'd know that if you played any of them.
>>564736659Strong anti-airs =/= consistent anti-airs.And I never said anything about majority, I merely stated that there are plenty, which is true.
are they planning to make another GG? if so, will they bring back the dash button? i want to learn this game but having such a button is iffy, i don't want to rely on it too much in case they decide to ditch it
>>564736659You keep trying to bring my skill into this when it is completely irrelevant. In Guilty Gear, anti-airs work on a hitbox basis, which means that anti-air is far more likely to lose or trade with an air option than in systems that use attributes, which makes the anti-air invulnerable to the air option. They are by definition less consistent than attribute system anti-airs, as those can never lose or trade with an air option.
>>564736818blazblue's anti-airs, despite using property tags instead of hurtbox shift, are less consistent than 6P because they have vastly different times when they become invuln and thus win against attacks. Guilty gear 6Ps win in the vast majority of situations and are thus very consistent. Yeah, if you mis-time it against ram(one character)'s jH(one move) you might end up losing or trading instead, but if it works 90% of the time its consistent.No, losing because the other person moved out of the way by double jumping doesn't make it inconsistent, you just whiffed an attack. It's like if you pressed fS against someone running forward and they stopped outside your range. That's not the move being flawed, you're stupid.
>>564737173It'd be surprising if they didn't keep it after adding it, but personally I have never struggled to go between strive and fighting games with dashes including +R.
>>564737275>losing because the other person moved out of the way by double jumping doesn't make it inconsistentI never argued such a point, this is something you invented and that I fully agree with. I dunno why you keep bringing it up though.
if i were to get into old arc sys games, which one is the better investment? accent core +r or bbcf? i'm looking for something that is easier to find matches in since i don't live na or east asia
>>564737559is >>564725252not you? specifically mentions 6P not working if they jump over you. That's why I bring it up.
>>564737712in my experience you can find games in Europe for ACPR even without using a Discord. I havent had the same experience with BBCF.
What the fuck is this argument. Don’t know how you could possibly call 6P inconsistent. Traditionally in fighting games your character has a handful of options for beating jump ins and you have to understand the frame data and spacing to know which situations call for which buttons against which character’s moves, not to mention some characters just being designed to have shit AAs in the first place that lose to strong jump ins. In Strive as long as you timed it accordingly 6P is a universal anti air, that’s the definition of consistent.
>>564738383I meant that if they simply jump over you without pressing a button, your 6P can whiff, depending on the character. I feel like a standard anti-air should hit high enough to catch a regular jump arc.
>>564738752Jump into nothing is a strategy. You got baited.
Sometimes I feel like I never grew up into an adult and I'm just a boy who is steadily becoming uglier and uglier
>>564739016It sure is, but again, I feel like a standard anti-air should hit high enough to catch a regular jump at the height of it's arc, especially if it's a forward jump. If it's a double jump or a super jump, fair enough. But I wouldn't really call a standard anti-air consistent if it's whiffing on regular jumps over your head.
>>564737712+R is just really good at getting into matches because of quick match, and it's the best fighting game in the genre in my opinion. BBCF should be good too since it has a solid amount of players but the system for getting into games, player rooms, is a bit less efficient.
>>564739274I mean what are you saying when you say “over your head” because it’s actually pretty damn rare in fighting games to have an AA that hits directly above you. Even the best AA moves tend to hit in front of the character because if they’re deep enough to be above your head you’ve mistimed your AA.
Don't go quiet into the night.
This is the perfect color for Leo, they should've brought it over
>>564739995perfect can’t wait to do this as ABA
>>564737712+R. You can play every fucking arc game if you learn how to play it.
>>564739610you got jacko/aba 2S in this game for that thing but not much else
>>564739995Gun vs Laser cannon.
>>564739995Iron rank is the only place where TRVE Guilty Gear is being played
>>564739995what are you supposed to do here as HC????
Came back to Strive with 2.0 after season 3. Been playing ABA and doing well all things considered. Can’t find any discussion about her other than whining about nerfs though so I went to watch some old footage. Lmao what were people smoking thinking this character didn’t need gutting. Watched Tiger Pop’s Evo set and he basically just never leaves JR. I swear it seemed like he could also leave JR manually and have MORE gauge.
>>564741824I get what your saying but its a matter of justice. Why should she be gutted when characters like Leo and Nago are allowed to stay as they are? They just selectively gutted ABA
>>564739610I guess it depends what you mean when you say directly above, but I feel like anti-airs where character directs their attack above them instead of in front of them are the norm in other fighters? Visually, Ky 2H looks far more like anti-airs in other games, if that makes sense (Yes, I know it isn't a good anti-air in Strive, I'm talking about the visual). Most 6Ps attack mostly in front and a little bit above, whereas "normal" anti-airs in other games usually attack mostly above and little bit in front.
>>564742134the thing is that's still putting a frontal hitbox out and wouldn't hit behind like jacko 2S would
>>564742017>Why should she be gutted when characters like Leo and Nago are allowed to stay as they are?
>>564742383Sure, I never said anything about hitting behind the character's head? Just above them, high enough to hit a character trying to jump over.
>>564742017Aba was a lot more of a problem than Leo
Exactly how bad is Terumi in bbcf
>>564742587Unless I’m misunderstanding you that’s almost never a thing in fighting games. If you’re getting jumped over you’re generally too late to be using an AA button and need to be air to airing or getting ready to block the cross up. Even a shoryuken isn’t always stopping a jump over
>>564742626Leo is and always has been one of the biggest problem characters in the game
>>564743146A dedicated anti-air having a hitbox high enough to hit someone at the height of their regular jump arc is absolutely the standard. I'm not talking about the anti-air whiffing because you pressed too late and they already crossed over to the other side, I'm talking about anti-air whiffing simply because their regular jump arc took them too high.
>>564743272I don’t think he’s even been more of a problem than Aba since she got added
Giovanna, scourge of the 2.0 newfaggot
>>564743521what games aside from under night do that? Most 2d games have fuckhuge jump arcs and the highest point is way above the character's range
>>564743134I've seen him played in top 8s at tournaments and stuff so I imagine he's not that bad, but I don't know CF intimately enough to really say. I will say that he's a huge faggot of a character that's extremely annoying to fight because his gay combos with a million cutscene supers never end and he's also by far the gayest looking of the three Terumi-adjacent characters (Hazama, Terumi and Susano'o).
>>564743521Uh idk dawg. I come from Street Fighter and no that’s not a thing. It’s still extremely timing dependent and you’re probably going to eat a jump in if you’re trying to hit someone at the top of their jump arc.
roman cancels used to just be cancels, then xrd turned it into a time machine, and strive made it do whatever the fuck
>>564742383Just bring this back.
>>564748051Yeah I don’t really care for the lgbt ahh rainbow roman cancels
We need green roman cancel
>>564748381i don't mind the pride colors or slowdown, but it is kind of scrubby that it does physically attack the other player with guard crushes and launchers. red and yellow are the only ones i don't like.
I like Jam.
>>564748051Just quick cancel it, so you magically only have to pay anywhere from 49 to 9% tension, just like in muh HNK.
>>564749475That's what micro-aggressions look like, bub, but the other colors are just as aggressive, when you think about it.
>even the #4 ranked Jam can't resist spamming random dragon kicks in neutralOkay, glad to know my Jam gorilla brain isn't a scrub issue, it's just what the Chinese slut does to us.
I quite like Leo
>>564750307she doesnt exactly have a neutral nigga
>>564750616Everyone has a neutral dumbass, it's called being in the middle of the screen. >but neutral skips-To skip something still implies it exists when you're not skipping it.
Venom seems cool but seems like everyone has said he’s ass since release and still ass in 2.0. What makes him so bad?
>>564751141>seems coolkill yourself
>>564752371Not very cool of you
>>564751141>ball set is slow for no reason>only one ball formation>balls don't go full screen anymoreWhich wouldn't be as much of a problem in older titles but>can no longer teleport>no double head morbid either>low damage and pathetic chip by old Venom standards>can no longer combo off throw without RC>unbelievably harsh damage scaling on his non-c.S startersStrive Venom is what you get when you put a low level player in charge of his design. He gravitates what is by far the weakest part of his gameplay and noob trap, stinger aim spam, and buffed it at out the wazoo the cost of the rest of his moveset and what made him so unique to begin with. Strive Venom is an affront to God
What were they thinking giving Leo a tool to cover up the one singular weakness of backturn? They should've just given him a meme special followup like Sol
WeWantLyightGyetOverNYIGHTMYARRRRRREESSSS
Leo is the character Daisuke wishes he made to be his self-insert back in 1998.
>>564755583>can no longer combo off throw without RC>unbelievably harsh damage scaling on his non-c.S startersAre you fucking retarded or something? These are universal.
>>564757115I think Asuka and Dizzy can combo off throw without RC. Asuka definitely can.
>>564757115It's almost as if some universal changes affect more characters than others. Shocking, I know
>>564757115>>564757274Nevermind, I didn't actually pay attention to the post you were replying to and I thought it was saying Venom couldn't combo a throw into Dark Angel in 2.0 or something, not talking about his old Xrd/+R throw.
My original goal getting back to the game was just to hit and maintain 1600 but with the point inflation that actually just took me a couple days.I guess my goal is gonna be 1700 now...? Seems to be the point where you're actually considered "decent" at the game too.
>check my win rates on RU>my personal demons in redmakes sense>the ones with really strong players in my region in redyeah that checks out>JAM at fucking 30%>tons of games so it's not even due to not knowing how she workswait what the fuck, it didn't feel like I was losing that much to heris the RamJam matchup actually bad or am I just personally shit at dealing with Jam?
I just played against Dizzy for the first time. What the actual fuck is the counter-play against c.S -> fire pillar?>Mash after c.S? COUNTER!>Mash after the strike portion of the move? COUNTER!>Mash after the projectile? COUNTER!She just looped it endlessly. Shit is worse than launch Sol f.S, at least that had a mashable gap and didn't deal chip.
How have my Strive players been doing? I took a break, both from the game, and posting for a bit cause my bf broke up with me. Took it pretty hard. But I'm back. I wanna learn Lucy, is she any good now with 2.0?
^/gbvsg/ refugee
>>564756369Why did they release one and ONLY one Vs. Theme.>>564760379If you FD, she can't cleanly do more than 1(?) loop since you'll be out of range from the first hit of the special.The real fucked up thing Dizzy can do is that she has safe, ambiguous crossups out of throw or sweep that lead into safe throws.
>>564760892I've never touched Granblue. Strive is my first fighting game besides Smash.
BridgetTranny was the lifeblood of this general
>>564762921I'm right here.
oh that's awkward
Ah what a shame she killed herself.
Trying the arcade and is there actually any cheese for stage 9
Today, I will remind him
>>564763345I didn't kill myself though I definitely thought about it once my bf broke up with me.
It's almost like she's still here with us in spirit.
>>564763764That's not me, and if you're insinuating it it is, you're dead wrong.
Anyways, I'm actually on my way to see a movie.
MYASTER OF YOUR OWN SYOULLLLL
>>564763473To beat Lucky Cookie?Throw loops and Potemkin
Sisters, you're watching & playing in our tournaments today, aren't you? https://challonge.com/w98qpki8https://challonge.com/4epij1n8We're ArcSisters, remember?
>fraternizing with gr*bbersI will not allow it in my household.
>>564765108I'm gonna smooch you
>>564762921This but with gay furry solderer
>>564764969I don't have an issue co-existing with grubbers but asking me to be interested in their game is a bridge too far.
I just watched the first episode of Dual RulersI thought it was fun
>>564766530you're not ready for Nerville
Lobby?
>>564767980We don't make those anymore, sis.
>>564766518Grub has been the only consistently good fighting game for 5 years straight. It had some minor issues here and there but nothing the average player would encounter. And in the current iteration all the games problems were solved.
>>564768263I made my mind up in the beta for GBVS and it will not be changed. Do NOT advertise it to me because it will not work.
>>564768334Sheep tits.
>>564768334Foolish and stubborn...
I KNOW WHO I LAMB
>>564768263>Grub has been the only consistently good fighting game for 5 years straight.LMAO grub died with the 2.80 patch back in 2022
>>564768263>still has brave counterlollmao
>>564768971THE MUTTON LAKE TOLD ME
>>564769989>>564768263Who do I trust, or should I put my faith in gaben steam charts
>>564770563You're in a general for a game with both YRC and BRC in it, brave counter is way more balanced than any of that shit
>>564770563You have no fucking grounds to talk shit about BC faggot.
>>564770854YRC is punishable on block and counter hit state.BC on the other hand...
>>564767697I met him and he's kind of a faggot, yes....oh...he's going to somehow turn into that weird thing that people keep posting, isn't he? The one sucking up fire
>>564771195How to structure pressure around YRC:- P buttons- Jump Cancel- Safejump----- Nothing
>>564771261That's a nerville clone. The actual Nerville does some cosmic horror shit later and the animation is top tier
>>564770845>Who do I trust,...yourself?
>>564770854>>564771050I'm going to assume you two don't even play Grub to realize how much worse BC is than YRC.
>>564771473Sounds funI'm not busy this weekend so I should be able to finish the anime pretty comfortably in 2 days.
What if they gave Sol the ability to DP RC because he’s the protagonist with the legacy mechanic
Why did Ram wreck Jam's sand castle...
Nerville PRC be like
>>564773035Pot players when they get ahold of hrt
Ky downplay is the strongest meta skill, right? Like when it comes to getting away with war crimes via downplaying, Kyfags have always been number one, yeah?
>>564774164yeah
granpoo players seem to have way more fun over there but I only know it through vs and rising and I did not care for 66L so I stopped but they are consistently the ones I see enjoying themselves even if it is just the posting
Everytime I open Spotify this nigga Naoki pops up on my front page with a new AI slop song
it's gonna be alright
>>564775486giwtwmotr
>>564775157>granpoo players seem to have way more fun over theresaid no grubber ever.
game improved 6 million percent
>>564708598Guilty Gear using ''reversal'' to refer to wake up actions misled me into calling doing anything on wakeup ''reversal''
>>564777343my wakeup throw reversal is gawdlike
>>564776360old Daisuke would've made this canon
>>564776360keeping it like this but making her have straps attached to the frame and they conveniently cover up the no-no spots would be a really cool design
>>564776360tits too big
>>564775157that's my neechang right there
>>564776360Can't help but see Hank Hill's ass.
>>564780764I would risk going to the favela for that...
>>564763772Can you post hole now that you're single?
>>467496969 Bridget discourse is truly timeless and knows no boundaries.
what an odd thing to post
>>564780118it's probably that one nude ramlethal body just scaled down
>Fight 1 (one [uno]) Axl>Feel tired, like I'm done for the day
>>564782163Essa postagem era estritamente para os meus amigos da favela que tocam Zato.
It's pretty amazing that a single modern fighting contains not one, not two, but three of the most awfully designed fighting game characters of all time. You would think developers would have learned something in three decades, but apparently not.
I had a really good set where I made good decisions
>>564782789>tocamthat's 'play' as in 'play an instrument'
>Block Jam's raw overhead>Go for high hitting fast move to stop her from doing anything>Does another raw overhead>Straight up goes over the said move that can double as a fucking anti airYou know what, you DO deserve to get tbagged Jam gorillas
>>564783553Mad that you got read like a book.
Jam players genuinely think they're good
niggas be blaming the beast instead of just not mashing on +30 on block with full meter Jam baka just take the throw
>>564784226This isn't Sin, if I take the throw, I still have to block Jam's pressure which is akin to balancing a katana on my forehead in a room of children
>>564783759I won the set I'm just mad about the hurtbox
come say hi, soivershttps://youtu.be/_KGw4nxsGS4
>>564784226Fuck Society AND the beastsAnd most importantly, FUCK (You)
>>564784226She's minus on the overhead
>>564785593Have fun.
Fuck JaggoIn the buttDoes anyone have the full pic of that crop that gets posted here every now and where she looks like she got her mouth full
made it to 1700 DR recently but that shit is impossible to mantain. every fight feels like an uphill battle
I need Delilah carnally man I want to pull her dress off and go to town
>>564787818Giga Guiltychad
What's the counterplay to Chipp's Alpha Blade this patch?He does horizontal, then diagonal, and he's in the air fully unpunishable
I FUCKING HATE the fat man
This was the best mod for the game but the 2.0 update broke it :(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0uF5W4E9fM
>grew to hate this serie but invested myself inot it for almost 2 decades so I have a hard time letting gois this what being a beaten wife is like?
>>564790159Nice, I'd use it too if it worked. I thought it would play a snippet for each character as they appeared, but maybe that would be too short for Player 2
Have they hired a new VA for Slayer yet? I guess they'll have to for his short story thing if they haven't already.
>>564794626I think they're saving it for the sequel out of respect. They should recast dr.doom though with how many intro voice lines there are in the game. No voice lines for the fantastic four would be wack
>>564794926>I think they're saving it for the sequel out of respect.Maybe they'll just retire Slayer and put Gabriel as the Slayer function now
I've seen some truly deranged fellows start to almost indiscriminately DP after blocking Ram's S sword toss because it forces to give up her turn and even if she baits the proration from the sword's explosion kills the damage.Please stop doing this, it fucking works and I hate it.
Refuse to play ABA anymore. Matches against zoners just make me want to put my controller down.
>>564797142if it makes you feel any better I want to stop playing my zoner because bullying like that in a lopsided matchup isn't even fun for me
i have not seen a single aba since the update. i've seen at least one happy chaos.
>>564789823>Ram whining about disjoint
>>564798183it’s because I’m down in gold.
I finally reached Diamond 2God damn it takes so long to rank up
gold gamers are oppressed
Djeeta!Djeeta?Djeeta...
WITH A BRUTISH IMPULSE
>>564798619I learned to never complain about games that rank you up too fast.Strive taught me the opposite is much, much worse.
i think the only 2 reasons why this game hasn't hit mainstream status like mortal kombat are the lack of playable single player modes and the dumb tower system, if they fix these 2 problems in the next game it can go band for band with the big 3
KONKAI WA WATASHI NO SHORI DESU NE
>>564803718its never gonna happen because 20 years of mk legacy and anime
>>564803718GG shouldn't be mainstream. Nothing kills a series more than becoming popular.
>>564804107mk is floundering nowadays and anime games are mainstream af now
>>564804154trying to gatekeep your already popular series, cute :)
>>564800854but what if her....
holy fuck man why is leo jesus christ now
>>564804154Unfortunately these days, the choices for a lot of game franchises are either becoming popular or being shelved for more than a decade and basically being dead.
>>564804154Bit late to worry about that, I think.
>>564781509No. Sorry. Not into that.
>>564804225>>564804472He's not wrong; the normalest of normalfags will be able to recognize Ryu and Scorpion, but no fucking way in hell will they name Sol. They won't even name Kazuya, and Tekken is more popular than Guilty Gear.Guilty Gear is closer to mainstream than it has ever been but it's still most definitely not there and that's a good thing.
>>564804896even normies are pogfacing at lucy and david nowadays, guilty gear only needs a sure hit to be a household name like the big 3, it's like really close now and even harada admits this, also kazuya and jin are famous af, you're just trying too hard
>>564805184>also kazuya and jin are famous af, you're just trying too hardYou do not interact with actual normalfags
>>564805263i can tell you're a pasty white dude already, everyone and their mom in the hood know tekken, if they cannot name kaz and jin, they sure know who king is
>>564805707OK retard
>>564806064OK cracker
>>564805707Based FavelaCHAD. Never let anyone shame you for your living conditions, you're living your best life.
>jam gets to stock all three cards on a single knockdown >gets safe mix off of each oneI’m winning more than I’m losing to her but god this character is so dumb. Literally removed this kind of bullshit in 2.0 then just gave it all to the very first DLC character of the new version
>>564807214>jam gets to stock all three cards on a single knockdownShe definitely does not unless she's far away from you. 3 stock charge takes almost a second and a half.
>>564807214Why did you let it happen
thanks for playing in our tournament bwos
genuinely, what did they mean by "the town inside me"?
>>564812949Miles and miles of dick.
>>564807214Watching Gobou abuse her cards, and she looks very fun.
>>564812949[Chavs from] the [whole] town [have been] inside mestandard British revelries
is xrd the literal only game where ky is both good and kinda cool
>>564816292>ponytail>cool
>>564816292...but he's cool as fuck in Strive?
>>5648082936HH gives you 3 stock charge
>>564816292wasn't he really good in Slash or something? Was he cool?
>>564816881even if you never see it his hair coming down and holy orders overriding the stage theme if he gets his ass beat enough is a good enough gimmick to justify iti've heard a few people praise ky's trive look as being /fa/ but honestly it's so fucking boring compared to the holy order robes and his gameplay actually has no sauce whatsoever
>>564816881Problem?
>>564816909he literally looks like he's going to cry in sadness in his portrait art
>>564817402I don't see it.
>>564817106his strive outfit is so ass it pisses me off because he's otherwise reasonably cool
People are telling me, without a hint of irony, that this guy is not fucking cool.
>>564819472yeah, it's sad but he's just not
>>564819627You are entitled to that wrong opinion, you probably live in a free country.
>>564817564strive ky is sauceless compared to his og look.
>>564819739he looks like a professional homosexual dressed him and cut his hair
>>564820574That's not Isuka you tourist
>>564820574none of guilty gear characters are cool, or any anime fg character actually, they can be appealing in terms of gameplay but i'd struggle to find any of them fit the the "cool" category
>>564821176...and Nina is cool?
>>564821393very
>>564821432How?
>>564821657If you can't see it, there's just no convincing you. It's taste after all.
>>564821829OK buddy.Very valuable, objective posts.
>all the fun fighting games are dead and all the shit ones are alive due to pure brand recognition
>>564822510You can play +r right now. in fact, it's more playable than ever.
>>564812949she's the town bicycle
>>564820574will Daisuke ever design a non-retarded looking sword for ky
I actually might hop on +r to mash buttons tomorrow
>>564803923>>564819472
>>564816984He wasn't cool in Slash, his charged stun edge was just broken iirc
>>564825202IT'S A CROSSIT'S A FUCKING CROSSBECAUSE HE'S A CRUSADER
>>564822510This will never be true because +R will always be alive.
>>564825229dang, so +r was his only actual cool version and he kinda sucksin xrd he can be cool but the things that make him not kinda suck are sadly the lame parts instead of the cool parts
>>564823983I think his only retarded looking sword is the original Thunderseal. The Magnolia Eclair is awesome.
>>564821176You gotta be a fag if you don’t think Sol, Leo, Chipp, and Johnny are cool.
>>564825953Xrd ky can be cool but all the lame stuff around him is so much stronger that you're effectively griefing by trying to swag
>>564825229He had attack level 5 on his ground stun edge, he could combo after his throws close to the corner, many specials were just a little bit faster, and charge stun edge stacked a ton of hit and block stun.+R's EX Ky still has many of these features, but his specials are a grab bag of X and X2, and nowhere near as oppressive as what slash Ky got.
>>564833397I kinda wish they’d made it so the EX versions of characters were usable and balanced for play as well
>>564833454EX Chipp is fun.
>>564833503EX Zappa and Johnny are interesting too
>>564820574Strive Ky is the coolest looking Ky, but missing link and X Ky are the best sounding Kys. Guilty gear 2 and Xrd made him look like a fucking fairy tale, and deviated way too fucking far from his Bastard! origins.
>>564833454In +R, most of them are balanced, and all but one is playable. EX Potemkin will never ever ever EVER win a single round against anyone.You could argue that Ex Sol and Anji are way too degenerate for their own good, but their base characters are just as obnoxious, only in different ways.
>>564833789I was thinking like how in melty blood you can pick different moons, so that they’d be playable in the sense you could see them at tournaments and now online and so on as actual alternative options in competitive environments
>>564833789you are on crack my guy ex gunflame is not ok
>>564830678Tryhard edgy designs from a Japanese westaboo
>>564834275Having EX characters is fun, but I don't actually like Moons or variants or systems like that. I just want to pick a character and their full toolset at my disposal.
>>564835412Nuh uh
>>564835550moons might as well be different characters tho. Difference between two moons of the same character can be more than the difference between ken and ryu in sf4.
>>564834275Variant systems are cancer, EX characters are a lazy way to pad the roster without creating new assets. I had hoped such practices had already died out in fighters until Rising added EX characters.
Anybody wanna play a bit of strive? Been a while since I played it and I don't really feel like doing ranked.
nah dead game
>>564795308if they're serious about that money-grubbing accessory(?) pack,I'd buy a Gabriel "costume"
>>564838782region? i'm very new btw
Reminder that Gabriel will never ever be playable
>>564839728NA East. I haven't played strive much but I have played +R a lot.
>>564840674ah too bad then
>>564841480All good, I just went and messed around in the park a bit
>>564841563次は本気を出してやるうぅ!!
Imagine the smell
>open thread>ctl+f lobby>no lobby>leave thread
I'm on a Strive sabbatical so the thread will be slow until I return in full, PLEASE understand.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5Fd6QTnjdQ
>smalltimer trying to use the big leff for engagementGotta be a yikes from me kizzington
>want some early sunday morning games>go into ranked>many 200+ ping matches>finally start accepting them>3 european slayers in a rowwhat the fuck is this shit
>>564848787sweaty white women feety
>>564848787smells like aislop...
how the fuck do you do the half circle and forward motion on leverless
>>564858612take huge amounts of hrt
>>564858612You use a single finger. You just press 6, 2, 4, 6 individually fast. You could in theory slide your finger and then press 6 at the end, but that has the risk of missing the 4. You only need cardinal directions, but you must have them so 6246 counts but 63216 doesn't. I think people missing the last 4 because your finger hasn't yet let go of 2 is what fucks them on leverless, which is why the single finger strategy actually works surprisingly well.
explain to me why i should start the next round with positive bonus if i finish with a wall break
Four and a half YEARS and every person I talk to about this game is STILL gaslit by the pose into thinking this move is not one of the shortest range f.S in the entire game.
>>564861576It's only 10f startup, I'd seriously hope its not as long as it looks
>>564861678One frame shorter than the average of 11f.It's also shorter range than most other 9/10f f.S. The only ones that are 9/10f and aren't longer range or special (plus or a billion active frames) are ABA's and Baiken's. It's also a now a strictly worse button in every way than Johnny, Axl, Chipp, Millia and Bridget's.It's literally just not actually good, it just fits into his gameplan well.
>>564862086nvm I double checked Johnny after posting this and his is 1 (one) frame longer total duration and 2f more minus without mist finer cancel
I had a dream about Elphelt last night.
>>56486207813/33 far slashes are 10f startup or shorter. ~40%.
>>564863015did you win the set in your dream
>>564858612Turn on input history and see which input your missing if you want specific answers.More specific advice from when I learned it:It should be easy to do on one side, the side where your ring finger is on forward (usually P2). Literally just half circle then press forward. Half circle just needs to be pressing all three buttons in sequence, practically pianoing them. It's not hard to do crazy fast.I found a lot more trouble doing it on the other side, because I was missing the 4 input. Your hand isn't symmetrical and you don't have direct control over your ring finger, which can make it hard to lift your finger off the ring finger button after your middle finger. Literally just doing it slower is the simplest and most universal answer, especially when doing a it out of down-back. The specifics of your controller can also help. On keyboard, I learned to sort of roll my hand to the ring finger side to help. On a controller with arcade buttons it's easier because travel is shorter, and you can slide your fingers off the keys rather than lifting to time it more reliably. On a controller with keyswitch buttons (Haute, Snackbox, etc) you can't do that easily for various reasons. I really wish there were more leverless controllers with sanwa/equivalent buttons, I do think they're better.
>>564865221Razer literally solved this with the Kitsune using low profile optical reds but the FGC was too broke for it
>>564865693afaik their actuation depth is still longer than sanwas. 1.2mm for the razer switches whereas sanwas are sub 1mm. Though I can't find the exact value for sanwa's actuation depth now so I'm going off a vague memory there. Also genuinely, having the lip on arcade buttons makes certain shit easier to do, in particular anything involving sliding your fingers off/on buttons.Personally I play on a wooting keyboard these days and arguably the theoretically best controller; analogue keys can have EXTREMELY low actuation depth and the rapid trigger shit makes the long total travel irrelevant. I wonder if we'll ever get hall effect buttons on a dedicated box but afaik the sensors need to be built into the PCB so who knows.
I missed the launch day discussionsdid they really just "remake" Strive Testa into some zoner cancer with teleport?
>>564867905>he didn't unlock the new exebeast burst special
>>564868662this one is cool
>>564867905>1900 DR>f.S into whiffed 2H>whiffs f.S instead of setting up oki after vertical skullare themstaments that carried?
>>564859253>I think people missing the last 4 because your finger hasn't yet let go of 2 is what fucks them on leverless,This is the part that got me for a really long time. Took so many hours to unlearn it's unreal; died inside every time I could see it happening in slow motion. Kept practicing on and off for days + kara cancel stuff as a complete noob and now I kinda love these things. The sliding technique is fun to do, too, though I really wanted to unfuck whatever muscle memory was preventing me from doing it the normal way
>>564871496>though I really wanted to unfuck whatever muscle memory was preventing me from doing it the normal wayIt's not muscle memory, it's biomechanics. Your control over your ring finger is not entirely independent from your control of your index finger.
>>564867632>>564865221>>564859253how will people see this shit and not realize anything harder than 236/214 is retarded
You're all just mad because Leffen has incredible talent
Fuck off Leffen
>>564873619A lot of people enjoy there being some level of difficulty to optimum execution in their fighting game.Also, you don't have to play on leverless, it is generally a niche input method.
Leffen, wait! I... I... l-l-love you... I love you, Leffen!
post the leffen tier list
>>564873619I think half-circles, double quarter-circles and 22 are fine. I dislike 6246 for the reasons discussed, and DP motions are retarded for plethora of reasons. Charge is such a bad input it amazes me that there are still fighting games that use it.If you only have quarter-circles, the amount of specials you can have is significantly limited, especially if you have a system where the same special has different strengths. Adding in a specific buttons for specials brings in a whole host of other issues as you can observe from 2XKO.
>dp motions are retardedgranpoo player detected
>>564875092Super inputs need to be longer and more complicated than normal specials for a plethora of balancing reasons. Double QCF is a dogshit retarded input that produces a billion input overlap problems and is generally harder on leverless than the GG motion anyway.DP's input method is pretty vital for balancing reversals and games with QCF DPs are universally dogshit.Charge is a great input that's both simpler and more complicated than any other input you listed, you've just never properly learned a charge character.
>>564875429>Double QCF is a dogshit retarded input that produces a billion input overlap problems and is generally harder on leverless than the GG motion anyway.Also it being mashable/ repeatedly bufferable is insanely fucking obnoxious
>grand poo gets filtered by motionsEvery time
>Strivers acting tsundere towards Grub playershehCute
I watch somebody play asuka on jewtube, think to myself "man I gotta boot up strive and play asuka", then remember I'm terrible at him and just get shit on in ranked.....
>the ratfaggot is herethat explains these shit takes on motion inputs
>>564876549Same.
>>564876909>only ONE person likes this very popular (in the Granblue fandom) characterHoly kekPLEASE take your meds
GR*BBERS NOT WELCOME
motion inputs are why the trans menace took root in fighting games.
Er, Strivesisters, I'm gonna recommend a tactical retreat on this one. Take it from me, GrubGAWDS could even mog an XrdIAN without breaking a sweat and then come back for seconds. What I'm saying is... we don't stand a freaking chance...
DPs are so lenient in modern fighters nigga, just press right before doing a quarter circle.
>>564877560I like in COTW where you don't even have to time it on wakeup, you can just do the input while you're down and hold the button
There is literally no reason for Grubbas and Strivers to quarrel with each other :)
>>564877560The input overlap is a big part of why they are dogshit.If there's no quarter-circle move with that button, just use a quarter-circle instead of a DP. If there's also a quarter-circle move, you are now in a situation where you have to jump through input loops just to do a walk-forward fireball. Retarded either way.>>564877560Wake-up DPs in Strive are far, far more strict in Strive than they are in SF4. True story, but people will genuinely try to argue otherwise.
>>564877731BULLSHITReally?
>>564878094Yeah its an explicit feature of the game. Honestly if fgs are gonna simplify, I'd rather it be stuff like that than retarded shit like dedicated special buttons or simple inputs.
>>564875092agreed except on charge (at least for 46, 28 is retarded)
>>564877731so that's where rising stole that idea for one of their recent patches from?
>>564879042kek Ain't that the truth...
>>564876179>tsundereNta but nigga I HATE you the same way I hate bbtag, dnf duel and p4a fans.
>>564877731sounds comfy ngl
>>564879569>i-it's not like I enjoy your posts in this general or anything>BAKA!CUTE
Go back to your jeet infested shithole grand poos
At least Grubba has lolis
>>564882987Doesn't it only have 1 the same as strive? Unless you count the blonde midget I guess.
>>564882987>lolis>plural
>>564882987>>564883792>>564884284Vikala and Cagliostro Though technically one's a teen and the other is an old man
>>564885332so it actually has no lolis at all...
I say GAWD - you say BLUE:GAWD!
>>564885554Cagliostro is a loli for all intents and purposes. Unless you really can only get your rocks off if she's an actual kid in every way
>>564886293cag is an old man in an artificial female body.also canonically he changed that body to that of an adult woman.
>>564886585that's not canon
Cag is an broken piece of shit that belongs in Xrd
>cag is an old man in an artificial female body.GAWDblue? sounds more like TRANSblue to me.
>>564885332Vikala really doesn't count since her body is more akin to just a 15-16 year old high school girl so it's still only one.
>>564886978react to the spears
>>564887229fair enough vikala being depicted as a kid or a teen in art is pretty much 50/50 though, so she usually falls under the loli umbrella
>>564887229Loli isn't about age, it's about body type (hence the 3000 year old dragon trope). The way normal form Vikala is depicted is definitely a loli, though her performance form is more contentious.
>can derank from rank x 2 to rank x 1Its over
>>564891190The ENTIRE post was about her body and it not looking like the body of a little girl 90% of the time and more like a high schooler's. Anyway enough shit women talk, more daisuke's and team red's ideal women talk.
does anyone want a LOBBY later -----> LOBBY
who are the most execution heavy characters in this game?
>>564894829Happy Chaos, Jack-O Valentine and Goldlewis Dickinson
>>564877960>If there's no quarter-circle move with that button, just use a quarter-circle instead of a DP.The idea is that the time it takea to input that DP would add to moves startup frame. This was back in an general era where inputs were inconsistent, game logic frame timings were inconsistent (turbo speed), inputs weren't solid due to controllers or the game etc. Then time went on and player side trends and habits changed so that 3/4 frame DP that had a hidden 1-3 frame additional startup duebto inputs became effectively a true inside and out 3/4 frame DP. Which meant some devs had different schools of thought over what to do.
i'd put my dickin Cliff's son if you know what I mean
>>564875429>is generally harder on leverlessNot even remotely true. How the fuck do you think that's the case?>DP's input method is pretty vital for balancing reversalsFor extremely contrived reasons.>games with QCF DPs are universally dogshit.Such as what? Yoy also need to factor in pseudo DP's with or without a do input into the equation.
>>564894952Feel like Goldlewis might be a joke answer but it’s kinda correct. Chaining between different behemoths is more demanding than most other characters require
>>564874438>A lot of peopleWho?
>>564895048I feel like this is a post-facto rationalization when the truth is more likely to be: "we only had literally two buttons in our hardware so we had extremely limited creative space to map the motions, and storing player inputs eats precious memory so we didn't want to make them longer than 3 frames".
I thought we loved old men here
>>564894829pot. i am serious.
Nobody has ever put forth an argument against motion inputs that couldn’t be solved by just getting good.
Nobody has ever put forth an argument against Happy Chaos that couldn't be solved by just getting good.
>>564896516Good thing I don’t have a problem with inputs nor HC
facing the black glass as i lose my ranked match and my points fade away
This and the delta motion are my favorite inputs.I'm also slightly partial to the samsho 216 inputs, because I like pain.
I was raping this mexican chaos in park and he activated his lagswitch de la virgen de guadalupe in a desperate attempt to beat me but i still won
>>564895709>I feel like this is a post-facto rationalization when the truth is more likely to beThe hardware limitations that we both talked about aren't mutually exclusive, but what you said was most likely the initial one out of the two since SF1 was the forebearer.
wait can you really not combo off of jams overhead or low starters even when powered up without roman cancel or crossing up with the overhead?
Who are the best anti-zoner characters? I can’t be playing ABA into all these top tier zoning characters this patch.
Searching for an opponentChecking connection.Searching for an opponentChecking connection.Searching for an opponentChecking connection.Searching for an opponentChecking connection.
You can do this no problem, right?
I like throws.
This is what Xrd is actually about.
>>564899949how would you even buffer this?
>>564900627jump, not even hard
>>564895991we, yes, WE, love cagliostro
>>564900627Do part of it as you jump, churn while you're in the air, then the last 360 when you've landed.
>>564902581Did... did the menu glitch out?
>>564904135no, it's a move where you draw pentagrams to perform the attacks.the initial input Ancient Talisman puts you into a stance where you can do the drawing freely so the input isn't actually as hard as just a picture of the command list implies
CEO GGST is on
>>564904402OhThat sounds kinda neat actually, thanks for the explanation.
Am I a bad person if I, as a tranny went to a movie and clocked at least 8 trannies there?Saw End of Evangelion. One of them came out of the gender neutral bathroom before the movie and had noticeable five'o'clock shadow and I felt so bad for them.
oh my god this looks so bad
BASEDHonest Ky Mexican getting that faggot DiaFRAUD OUT
picking the snow stage should be a bannable offense
Those fucking Succubi are USELESS
what an odd tournamenti'll hold on until evo to formulate major thoughts
the chat is wildly chuddy
Did lvl up expo not have a Strive tourney? Can’t find any footie
Ky (Mexican)
Is 2.0 Faust good or bad? Feel like I’ve seen people saying he’s both lowest and highest tier in the game
Why is Lucy so terrible? I literally played Cyberpunk cause she got added, and I wanna carry over my love of Cyberpunk into Strive, but it's impossible cause she's terrible.
does anyone want a lobby
>>564911521region?
>>564911631na ec but I will play anyone generally
>>564911521
>>564911721ok sure
>>564895449>Everything you said was completely correct but for some reason I feel like you said one of the correct answers as a joke
>>564911984LOBBY CODE: 124578na ec but all regions welcomeft3 winner stays
>>564912201Cute merumeru
>>5649122013/9
>>564912201You're not skilled Faust. All you did was jump around and spam the trumpet thing and the minion to keep me on the ground. That isn't skill
>>564913124my bad!
>>564913580Whatever, fuck off.
>>564913124Genuinely kill yourself. You are unwanted here just like in every other facet of your life including your family. Your boyfriend is going to lead a much better life now that he has left you, I can guarantee that. We are all awaiting the inevitable suicide manifesto you post here.
>>564896209Pot in strive is one of the easiest characters in the entire genre
>>564897792"C-Tier" Slayer, Anji, and Johnny (zoner)
>>564913124If he ain't skilled why did he beat you, mr crybaby?
>>564913798The hell's your problem?
This is why I don't play strive too many freaks on it
>>564914024Because he knows how to exploit Faust's moveset, and knows that Bridget has no chance of catching up to him.
>>564913798Fucking bodied that tranny
>>564913798Gawd fucking DAYUM cook that nigga
>>564914187Nah I think you're just a weird shitter
>tranny>isn't even good at striveyou really should kill yourself holy shit! isn't this dog shit game the only thing you faggots are supposed to be good at?
>>564914380I'm Diamond 3. Nearly Vanquisher. Most of you aren't even that high.
>>564914521NTA but I don't even have a rank in strive and I'm already above you
>>564914664And how's that? If you're gonna lecture me because I'm >emotionally unintelligentI don't like to lose. And I get upset when I lose.
>>564913726please do not join the lobby if you're going to start arguments like it's discord, thank you
somebody asked in here who the strive equivalent to mai is awhile ago and it just occurred to me it's totally leo actually
I wasn't expecting BridgetTranny to be a salty scrub bitchthat's kinda hot
>>564914752Didn't know going in I was going to have an argument over this, but the fact of the matter is, assuming you're the Faust, you didn't play a style that I enjoyed, I didn't have fun, so I'm upset.
>>564914521>not even VanquisherYOU'RE TRASH! you can't stop outing yourself in any way, can you? Put me in the suicide note you silly homot. Vanquisher Zato GAWD
>>564914868>mentally ill individual has no emotional control and a scrub mentality to blame others for their own shortcomingsThat's attractive to you?
>>564914868How's that hot? I don't get this comment at all.
>bragging about being Diamond
>>564914880it's fine to be upset, I just think taking it out during a casual lobby is bad manners
>>564915013post butt and i'll tell you how
>>564914735I could beat you 50 games in a row in +R right now but I’d probably get bored after 10. Ranks ain’t real and you’re even worse than you think.
>>564915165God not you again.>>564915156It's 4chan. Are you seriously going to piss and moan about "bad manners"?
>>564914521t. hasn't joined a lobbyyou wouldn't even be worth wiping the grime off the shoes of our lobbyLORDS
>>564915212>I could beat you 50 games in a row in a game you've never playedWow congrats. No shit. I've never played +R. Of course I'd lose. What kinda gloat is this? It doesn't even make sense.
>unloved tranny AND bad at strivePick a struggle my nigga god damn
wait his melty is inspired by getting washed by a lobby goer>tranny>no self awarenessof course, of course
>All you did was jump and play keep away>Against me, a Bridgetoh no no no no
>>564915370Just wanted to say you're pathetic and a subhuman, to be honest.
>>564915254I don't browse 4chan as a whole much anymore, I really just look over the fighting game generals here because they're funny. in 2026 I really do not care much for fake performative chan aggressive behavior. I just like playing here cause I think we have a fun group of players. granblue tournaments are also very fun you guys should join them if you've played grubber
>>564915426It's not a melty. I've had meltdowns, this ain't one of em.>>564915481I play Bridget as a rushdown. >>564915501How originalAnyways, I'm gonna go make dinner.
>Tranny was mean to one of my grubbasNow its personal
>people actually getting mad at Mahjong Strive
>>564915658I hope your dinner is a gun in the mouth. please don't come back.
>>564915757Based
>>564915757I don't own a gun so that's impossible.
>>564915703Which character in strive is the one where you eat the opponent's pieces while they ain't looking
>>564915876I don't know but I just want to say that Pre 2.0 Aba just ate the pieces while being looked at
Maybe it was just luck but I'm rather amazed how I booted +R and instantly got matched. I played against 3 different people before I went to play with a friend, maybe it was just luck that they were all fresh beginners/glue eaters like me, the experience def would not have been as positive if they were some kind of giga gods who used me like an onahole
>>564916693The quick match lobby is really fucking good and I wish more games had it
Every time I join a lobby I'm reminded why I shouldn't bother
>>564915746MISTAH DOLPHIN
>>564917643but lobbies are fun anon
should i reinstall strive to play happy chaos
>>564918056how so
>>564918318friendly environment adaptation and exchange of advice over many sets instead of silently getting cheesed in a bo3
>>564918539>adaptation and exchange of advice over many sets instead of silently getting cheesed in a bo3I have never once seen this happen
>>564918623That would require you to communicate and ask questions. Which is something you can do.
if you're feeling down in ranked go play in tower funniest shit I've ever seen
>>564914835>somebody asked in here who the strive equivalent to maiAWOOOGA HUMINA HUMINA HUMINA>it just occurred to me it's totally leo actuallynigga what the FUCKwho cares about GAMEPLAYi want to CUM
Where is breadly sin?Is he safe? Is he alright?
>>564915603>granblue tournaments are also very fun you guys should join them if you've played grubberno please don't send the freak our waywe used to have our own freak and we had to fucking exorcise it from the community
>>564918105to troll with infinites?yes
>>564919230there used to be a serial ragequitter obese furry(?) i-no player here but that was before my time. sure are a lot of strange people that play fighting games
>>564918623my bad I'm on playstation and usually people tend to queue into games instantly. so by the time I'm done typing they probably think I'm not saying anything but talking is pretty normal in the lobby. our resident sol player does it pretty regularly
>>564919392are you sure you're not conflating two different people?there used to be an i-no player that would ragequit in lobbiesthere used to be a furry ram player that... it's honestly hard to keep it short how mentally ill he was>sure are a lot of strange people that play fighting gamesis it fighting games, or is it 4chan? or is it both?but yes. we've had our share of freaks on /gbvsg/ but we overcame them
>>564918623I give advice all the time and I've received pivotal pointers that helped me improve my play (thanks sneed)
>>564919649I mean look at a strive tournament, I don’t think umisho comes here
Alright, on reflection from re-reading my posts, I did let my anger and frustration get the better of me. Sorry anons. It's something I get from my mom. Working on it in therapy.
>>564920327as punishment you'll need to post butt for us to forgive you
>>564920327
>>564921050I don't get what this image is supposed to convey.>>564920791No. Please stop asking.
literally just watching jam shorthop and knowing if I had reactions I could just dp every single time but I don't so I cant
I can't help but be mind boggled at +R's inputs and the specials themselves.
>>564921297Why did you let it happen
>>564921416I forgot to take my adderall so I didn't have the focus to remember to take my adderall
>>564921675Is Adderall actually good for ADD?
I... I think +R Johnny made me appreciate Strive Johnny more.
im managing to hold my ground in vanq 2
>>564923449this poster is strong
Why does Diaphone’s Jam look like every Jam I play against online in Gold
>>564924110simple character simply does simple thingssimple as
>>564924110Because he is a PHONY and he does not actually possess The Gene, despite people's claims.
>>564925412anon, you need the gene AND autism to competehe has the gene but he doesn't give a shit about strive so he's not actually labbing or grinding
>>564912201lobby closed. ggs everyone thanks for stopping by
>>564926201You're not skilled Lucy. All you did was jump around and spam the gun thing and the whip to keep me on the ground. That isn't skillggs
>>564926201Jaggo a cute.
>>564924110kek >>564909457
>>564922276
>>564926201Damn I missed it
>>564922276+R Johnny is sick as hell. Stance Step Jackhound hurts my hands but I’ve been working on learning him a bit more.
>>564926981>shirtless Japanese man prancing around with giant fansI can't believe I used to think Anji was cool...
>>564928448Try this.
has anybody figured out how to play the real asuka after 2.00?
>>564928448nah bro who the fuck thought this was a real inputor shit like ensenga being j.41236H623S, why does he even have that?getting rid of all this shit and instead adding air mist finer was a good move
>>564930793I’ll have to disagree. He’s supposed to be execution heavy and that’s part of why he’s so cool.
>>564930867so he's execution heavy... because his inputs are retarded? i don't find that cool at all.
>>564932627NTA but do you believe you are equal to other humans?
>>564932627I am sorry because you seem to genuinely be struggling, but you might be retarded.
>>564932627Yes, just like I-no. If the moves are retarded to perform, that means they're totally difficult, so the character is automatically a high skill character.
>>564933007https://mikezsez.blogspot.com/2015/01/why-im-not-playing-ggxrd.htmlctrl f I-No
>>564930793apparently alot of players stuck with +R Johnny over Xrd Johnny because of his abnormal air sustain entirely from KJ
ft10 anyone ?
>>564933197He really needed it. He was too weak and immobile without this superjuiced move that lets him do everything if he has a bit of tension.
>>564933396Region?
>>564933615NA ec
>>564933802You cool with NA west? I'm down if you are, name a park
>>564933853i don't mindlets do wc 22
>>564933189He was completely right about YRCs, degenerate option selects, and how much removing negative edge fucked with the game.
>>564933189Mike Z is subhuman
playing grub with the EN voice over is a capital crime, but Strive not so muchStrive's EN voice over is surprisingly decent
>>564934407>no Joji Nakata>no Norio Wakamoto>no Takehito Koyasu >no Megumi Han>no Mayumi ShintaniNo thanks.
why did they get rid of that classic Pilebunker SFX in Strive
>>564925704What DOES he give a shit about?That's the same excuse I've read for 3 games already: Grub, Strive and City of the Wolves.
>>564935076>What DOES he give a shit about?moneattencione
>>564934952Uhh, excuse me, but this is clearly modded. Everyone knows Xrd is a low damage game.
>>564935127Anone is Italiano...
>>564935194That joke doesn't work when it's a Slayer clip.
>>564935076cashclout
>>564935127>>564936121were so close to someone posting the diaphone dark triad doc
I wanna play BBTag but this fucking DLC unlocker aint fucking working
>>564935076fundsfame
>>564935076wealthrecognition
>>564930716Do you mean how to play him now that they gimped him or how to play ad Asuka R. Kreutz over Asuka R#? If you mean the latter, you press K and Dust when selecting him on the character select screen, or maybe it's just X/A and R1/RB and it's not tied to your button binds.
>>564933897GGs. Not bad at all. I am not familiar with any good /GGG? Johnny player as good as you, so it's cool to see. The Sol was solid too, but the MU is so wildly different that it took you a bit to adapt
FORTUNE, FAMEMIRROR, VAIN
>>564936654GONE INSANE
>>564933897You're not skilled Johnny. All you did was jump around and spam the mist thing and the cards to keep me on the ground. That isn't skill
>>564936589ggs i got cooked tho
Diaphone is suspiciously handsome. Almost as handsome as Jiyuna.
Diaphone is married to an Asian woman
>2369 Motionwhat the fuck
>>564938356who?that's the tk motion right
>>564937730so is jiyuna.odd how that worksi wonder if I can also marry an asian woman someday.
>>564937730He imported her because he wanted to bypass the american dating grind so he could focus on playing videogames.
>>564940348>imported herAnon... people are not objects...
>>564939443
>Successfully parry the opponent>It sends the opponent fullscreen while dealing a jab's worth of damage>Puts you at a disadvantage against most of the cast as they outrange you and would rather be as far away as possible from youWhy did they change the parry to a joke move that's about as useful as release day eat for Sin?
>>564941116You know you don't have to do the follow-up right?
>>564938356tiger
>>564941653The follow-up is automatic, it's distance-dependent on whether it triggers.
https://youtu.be/j5Fd6QTnjdQimagine being the guy that sits down to watch Leffen spam an infinite for 12 hours a day
>>564942009Cobra
>>564943454this leffen man talks like DSP why does anyone care about him
>>564943454stop posting your video dude
you remember how in old anime games counterhit combos were pretty specific and not that much different from a regular combo aside from a little bit of extra damage?can we go back to that or nah
>>564945336No, those days are long gone.
>>564945336I remember instantly dying when getting counterhit by Sol though
>>564945549yeah but that was special and not every single character had something like thishttps://youtu.be/aS3glLSlP6U
>guard cancels>invincible backdashes.>forward dashes.>COUNTER hits.>even more bonus damage on headshots.This is where it all began.
>>564945336this is what I sound like when I larp
>>564945824How quickly we replace cringe with larp, zoomer with gooner, onions with goyim
>>564946031none of those are replacements of the other
remember when Anime fighters had concept/setup videos?strive doesnt have that
I wonder how much those DVDs cost nowhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMXeFETm55M&list=PLfMYos0rgYU9xjYPsI_dFW0QTeXj2rux6
>>564945336I hear you sister, whatever happened to good old-fashioned moves like Order Sol 2H, Chipp j.D and Robo-Ky j.S that were basically the same thing with or without counterhit.
>>564949428Yeah now its just every single heavy buttonevery single midevery single light
You try to gut wall damage and it still manages to creep its head in somehow.
>>564947461I have one where they show off truly degenerate Slayer and Ky tech.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpUFP2SP99QLook at this distilled bullshit.
Sometimes life is just unfair and you get guard broken into homing jump
>>564945336Arcsys games have had special properties on counter hit for over 20 years
>>564943435Dustloop says you have to press 6P after successfully parrying an attack to trigger the repost.
>>564963296???The parry has been automatic since her release, what are you talking about?
you two dipshits are talking about two different characters PLEASE one of you figure it out
Baiken has guard cancels not parries
>>564964023>gets a random counter hit>diesoh no no no bros our narrative
>>564964023Daisuke's Dimension.
>>564963694What the fuck are you talking about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIJwA7Pu9Ns&t=193sThe original complaint back in >>564941116 was that the parry "sends the opponent fullscreen while dealing a jab's worth of damage", which is describing the repost, which I said is optional, which it is.
What if Leo is the new mc
>>564945336>pretty specific and not that much different from a regular
>>564959189>>564951126ever try toning down the damage or do you want it high
>>564966181you have to understand that there are people who played fighting games and just mashed out combos and thought they were nice because they were able to just do combos and never went beyond that. it was really common for the delay based era because there weren't that many other people you could play against and fighting games as a whole were a lot nicher.
Guilty Gears for this feel?https://youtu.be/n1I9W51WxKU?si=QQbtLbaxC5Pd_sM7
Is it me or the offensive aerial game in Strive is weak?Like there is delay on Air dash and you can get interrupted by 5P and 6P. No wonder why Millia is Low tier.https://vxtwitter.com/YAMAME_de_su_wa/status/2047223962631832010
>>564969117It's weak in general but it's not weak on Millia.
>>564967304it is toned down sols raw numbers are anyway.i haven't gotten to jam yet, and I haven't changed proration either.
>>564963694Are you trolling
>>564969117Holy shit you might be right. I can't believe no one else had noticed before.
>>564969117>>564969904>It's weak in general but it's not weak on Millia.It's just weak in general, period.
>>564972116>I'll post the character that has 0 recovery on anything to show that this is slow and bad
>>564972116Everything about Leo in this game makes me irrationally mad
>>564972116this is just a leo moment
I like Unika, I wish she had more depth.
>>564972116I forgot you can upload mp4s on 4chan.
>>564964757Why the fuck are you talking about Jam, I'm talking about the parry character.
I like Unika. Wish she did anal
>>564969117>you can get interrupted by 5P and 6P.is it me or are overheads weak in this game? you can hold back and "block" them??
>>564974150Yeah shits fucked. Remove blocking, it's stopping me from seeing the big numbers.
>>564974348simply command grab
>>564974461Does that have big numbers?
>>564974461can't, Axl's command grab is now a low
>>564936169QRD?
>>564969117a lot of characters don't have air disjoints making them weak to 5P mashes compared to previous games. There are some characters that are exceptions to this and those characters feel a lot worse to fight because of it.
>>564974052She absolutely does anal, and prefers it over taking it in the pussy.
>>564978125Thanks for the info, Nerville
wiat... unika's transbian... das... das actually kinda GAWDlike imma keep it a BUCK and tell y'all rinow DAS GAAAAAAAAWDlike bru
>>564976489I love mashing 2P on Ky and beating Baiken's jumping slash 95% of the time. I will never feel bad for this.
>>564978263Das a lil GAWDLIKE.
>>564978551WHY, YOU...
>>564976489>>564972116genuine question for people who played older airdashers/would like to have very strong air approaches.what would be the point of staying on the ground for anything that's not blocking pressure?if my shit was impossible or nearly impossible to antiair, there's literally nothing to stop me from getting in the microsecond we're in airdash distance.jumps by design already ignore a good chunk of a characters kit. why would i interact with the other character if i can get in anytime?
>>564972116>>564969904>not weak on millia
>>564978125women like that don't exist unfortunatelyI guess she really is... unique... woah...
butts are good but anal is grosssex is for procreation
>>5649810366P was still strong in older games and had higher reward due to extra gatling options. It's mainly the 5P anti-air that were weaker due to actual disjoint on jump-ins. There were also often other strong anti-air options that have been nerfed in strive since they'd be overbearing against the slower airdash speed. Faster airdash was harder to react to but it is far from a free neutral skip.
I was in a bad mood today so I ate a lot and now I look like Goldlewis.
>>564983962understandable.personally, i'm a big fan of very consistent AA with low reward coupled with situational but potentially very rewarding AA, but the way you describe older games makes it sound fair too
>>564979348I'm gonna keep doing it, and you can't stop me.I will keep winning against the most nonsense air moves, and you won't believe it even as it's happening on your screen.
>>564984936comparison
>>564981036You stay on the ground because jumping carelessly at the opponent will get you hit for massive damage, and/or pushed towards the corner.If you're feeling cute, and try to hover near or above your opponent, he or she can very easily jump up and air grab you for free, which is extremely bad for your chances of winning.If you have the means to execute a lot of shit in the air, in most airdashes (including guilty gear), you can't block grounded moves without using meter, you can't do infinite air movement resets, and any given time the opponent is under you, he can JUMP UP AND AIR THROW YOU FOR FREE.You would interact with the other character because it has an air throw, and because blocked air attacks inflict very gay recovery on you so the opponent gets to fuck with you when you're back down on the ground, and because meter defense creates more space between the characters, limiting the degeneracy of the air.
>>564984528I looked like Sol for most of my life, but then I got depressed and started looking like Goldlewis, which made my mental health so bad that now I look like Zato.
>>564981036You will have people who play the older games blatantly lying to your face, but the simple truth is that there isn't much point in staying on the ground, which is why a lot of the older airdashers devolve into "floor is made of lava" spazz-outs.
>>564988259i play this way in strive btw
>>564985320That's cherrypicked though. There are plenty of Strive characters that will kill you from 6P, and plenty of Xrd/+R characters that get jack-shit from 6P (not to mention there are characters who don't even have real 6Ps for anti-airing).
>>564988456>There are plenty of Strive characters that will kill you from 6Pname 4, and then list the combos and the damage they domidscreen only
>>564988456which strivers kill you on 6P in current patch? I know some get an actual decent combo on air CH(not on ground CH anymore) but those combos aren't highly damaging.yeah not everyone had a 6P that leads into a combo or even one that works as an anti-air at all, but a good amount of the cast gets good reward off of it, even if it's just like 6P jump cancel air combo or something similar. In strive most 6Ps don't have reward but some do. In ACR it's the opposite - most do, but some don't.
I was playing +r with a friend he picked May, 6P'd me at roundstart and Instant Kill'ed me>bro just tech the stunnigger I don't bother with that shit in Strive, like hell I'll do it for a game where it's even worse
>>564990303lmao gottem
>>564990303There's actually pretty simple counterplay to that:bro just tech the stun
Grabs beating command grabs might actually be a stupider change than giving pot buster armor
>>564991243Regular grabs lose to command grabs though. I think you are confused.
>>564990303I saw the clip
>>564993294oh no no no no no no no
>>564993554?
>>564993769OH NO NO NO NO NO NO*WHEEZE*
>>564993769>xe doesn't know
Is there anything you can do when Leo fast RC's into his crossup? Am I just fucked?
>>564993967>>564995167Losing unearned invincibility on your move is not the same as "grabs beating it". It's like saying 5P beats 5HS. Yeah, if you mis-space your move, a shorter ranged faster move will beat it, that goes without saying, it's how fighters are supposed to work. Vast majority of fighters don't give command grabs throw invincibility during start-up, and even in Strive it wasn't uniform, only the dev-favored characters got it.
>>564997318holy retard
>>564995805React.
>>564997713Your command grab has longer range than a regular grab for a reason, grappler-kun. Try to use that battered noggin of yours and perhaps improve your positioning instead of seething that the game is no longer being directed by a retarded grappler main showering his favorites with blatant favoritism.
>>564998179You say this as if Pot doesn't have a gigantic command grab that will never lose to throws, it adversely affects characters with weaker strike throw like Venom. Enjoy trying to mash back throw on Pot garuda pressure and getting demolished anyway
>>564992851I don't get it...
my prediction is that they'll get rid of negative penality and risc before the end of the game's life as one last fuck you to past games.
UMISHO just flew over my house
>>564999634>Oh no the zoner who controls neutral and has extremely potent setups has weaker strike-throw and has to properly space himself if he wants to hit you with his combo-giving command grab without risking a back-throwHow awful, truly they should have kept the throw invuln in just for him. They should have also kept in reversal RC because removing it hurt weaker characters like Baiken, nevermind what it allowed Leo and Sol to do from a DP.
>>565000050Getting rid of negative penalty would be a good thing though. If you want your game to be aggressive, then you should make characters play like that instead of slapping on a penalty if they spend too much time "playing lame". Literally a mechanic that fucking Smashfags inserted into their game, should tell you all you need to know about how good it is.
>>565001403>>565001403>>565001403[New Thread]
>>565000848>Running away and not attacking on a fighting game, especially a fighting known to be extremely aggressive should not be punishedWhats the alternative?
>>565000050Those changes will probably be held off for the next GG at this point, as well as adding simple inputs ala Granblue.
>>565002338>as well as adding simple inputsWe already had those in Xrd.
