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Best girl!
https://youtu.be/R70MhV-f8I8?si=wJL2ef6cYnMk80jzFun
>>564672624>>564672767Maybe I'm just being an autistic nitpicking douche (probably) but I sort of feel like there's a lack of synergy in art direction, like the anime trailers are of course anime but that doesn't really fit with the faux-comic style they're trying to do with the game proper, as if there wasn't any real plans of cohesion where they could've gone full comic book or full anime in regards to both
The story mode is really good actually wow
>>564682397>SalvatoreThey really had fun making him.
>>564682397>Ronaldo's the only one who doesn't have a unique animationPeople still think the devs asked for this guy in the game?
>>564682397A lot of these are quite fun, good job SNK.
and of course after a great anime short with positive feedback it just be time for this shit
>LonetteWait, Ryo and Yuri are hapas?
hol up gotta play catch up>>564634386>You guys are so shallow in what you discuss it's kind of sadwould you like to say "all men want is one thing and it's disgusting" and express to us a list of your "icks" while you're at it, lady>>564661980sounds like decepticonfag or w/e>uhH syhtut theF ufck up?!11bro you got a stick up there, must be all that shota yaoi kof doujin you readin>>564647404got one for you too
>>564682397
>>564687476what is WRONG with them? Why can't they just do good things without doing some awkward, cringe shit immediately after?
>>564687476the fuck loli mean it's not wrong for the most part except for arguably the evolving and innovating parts but it's kinda nerdy
>>564683006agreed. it's like they listened to all the complaints here and corrected. I'm happy to see them improve but if terry and andy don't officially get with mai and mary by the end of this shit they are the gayest men i've ever seen.
They improved too late. Should've delayed the game and done all this shit. Maybe Kenshiro pulls in numbers...idk
>>564702492They need more sales. Game's already $20 brand new, but people who rightfully dodged the DLC pass have to spend that much to play catch up when the fuckin new story mode is free. Drop the pass to $6 (one per character given how that's how good they look) and run a few more ads that don't look like this >>564687476But the unfortunate truth is the Saudi collabs are going to continue stinking up this game and making people not want to play regardless of what they improve. SNK can be the first developers to just retcon their shitty mistakes oh wait they can't even be that cause Capcom already did it
>>564687476I thought rich people were supposed to have some small degree of common sense and foresight did they really think this shit would look good or attract people?
>>564688106It's been known for years but it's the kind of obscure stuff you find in manuals so nobody really cared. I wonder why they suddenly try to make Ryo and Yuri's mom relevant. She died in a car accident that was likely orchestrated to get Takuma to work for Geese. What is there left to tell? She's dead.
>>564702236So, from what I gather, they ignored the retarded development of Big killing himself to take down fucking Jack of all the people?
>>564672624>spoiler Why?
>>564687476I don’t think Saudis know or care what GameStop is, it’s SNK who used to collab with Filipino rappers to promote the game, lest you want to put that on them.Also isn’t ironic that good shit like obari trailers is surely authentic snk but stinking shit is saudis? Get a grip marks, your company is ran by retarded boomers like oda, Saudi only give them the money, they spend it however they like. Also to resetera troons faggotry will forever be banned in Saudi just eat shit.
>>564705295>your company is ran by retarded boomers like oda, Saudi only give them the money, they spend it however they likeThat's why I said it months ago. The Saudis didn't do any research. They simply gave the best race car to a low-level driver and left. It's obvious that senseless and stupid decisions like this will happen >>564687476Btw they only won the FG award by pure luck, launching Cotw in a stagnant year. Oda remains a mediocre developer and will continue to be so.But the main problem is, after winning the Best FG award, he thought: "All the decisions were right, all the marketing was right, I was right all along," and now he's going to keep pushing his nonsensical ideas even more. This GameStop cringe shit is just the beginning.
>>564702492"It's okay. There are patches now. We'll fix it later". Ruined many a game. Devs got lazier. Pubs got greedier, and forgot that unless you're a mega brand, first impressions still count.
>>564686987Dong was one of the only motw characters at launch without a stage. Guess the Saudis forced him in, too.
>>564687476At this point I believe someone at SNK believes in intentional bad marketing to bait for engagement
>>564707492Retard.
Cute
Maybe SNK should make another animatronic band.
>>564687476Again the sooner you all realize who's wasting money...
>>564710038would pay for an hour with that nako oof
>>564709483Get lost, gooner!
>>564710038"The animatronics do get a bit quirky at night.">Get jump down C by Kyo
Is Saudi stopping them?
>>564711981Mai has a huge bust. Think they just wanted to give her a more athletic look
>>564687476If someone suggested this idea, I'd say, "Well, if that's really going to be it, we need to go full retard." I mean, they should have added a stage that showed the GameStop store or the stage was inside the GameStop. This post, this way, seems so out of place, fake and strange. It's amazing how they manage to fail at being retarded.
What will the first SNK Netflix series be?
>>564707180I agree, and it happened to all Saudi investments, they buy something and leave it as is, pretty stupid.>Oda remains a mediocre developer and will continue to be so.If he had any talent he would’ve remained in Capcom working on SF after SFIV, but they got rid of him for a reason.
>>564711981>>5647123342D >>> 3D
>>564712571A martial artist movie like the Bruce Lee ones, with kof and ff in name only
>>564712571Mutant Nation live action let's go!
>>564712571Last Blade or Samsho getting the Netflix DMC treatment : ))))
>>564712571Sengoku by Adi Shankar
>>564704679Pretty much. Apparently some of the stuff we see in the character's arcade modes and EOST modes happened prior to this story.
>>564713417Can't wait to hear Nakoruru yell "fuck" and "shit" every 2 sentences.
>>564712571Obviously, the first projects to be released will be Samsho and AoF, so they are released close to the game's launch date.Always remember that this type of news is for the public. Oda probably received this news a year in advance.
>>564712571Metal Slug live action
>>564710193>Master of marketing
>>564713828kaeda gets shot in the leg by hibiki-actually nah I can see her crazy ass doing that shit actually
>>564713828>Mama-FUCKING-haha!>This is nature's punishment, motherfucker!">Whoever shits on nature shall feel my fucking wrath!>Let's go, Shiku-FUCKING-ru!>Nature's law, bitch: might is right!>Don't fuck with Mother Nature!>You won't defeat me! My bitch's waiting for me at home!>Let's go home. Everyone in the fucking village is fucking waiting for us.
>>564711981>>564712593
Masami Obari
Normal Nakoruru is a vaginal wifePurple Nakoruru is an anal slut
Feels like SNK is heading in the right direction
>>564716838imagine being footsandwiched by these twonormalruru would rub my shaft clumsilypurpleruru would pinch my glans and scratch my peehole with her toenails
Oh look we get to see Kain and Abel's past for once
>>564687476
Gato's MOTW stage. Rock mentions meeting Mr. Karate here so we might get this as a stage next month
Pepsiman collab/dlc in Cotw whenSNK hire me for marketing shitActually I do it for free
The most Obari thing in that animation wasn't the bouncing tits with fat nipples straining against the clothing, it was Flashback Terry's hat having the metal plate on it
>oda is the shigeru miyamoto of snk
Mr. Big has Mossad agents in the government
>>564718362Vinland Saga DLC confirmed!
i think it's so funny that they took our shitting on the story to heart and actually went out of their way to improve nearly everything wrong with it kekwhen are they gonna do the same with the models
I guess we are getting 5 seasons?Mr. Karate (PL047)Kenshiro (PL036)Rick (PL026)Duck (PL033)??? (PL039)??? (PL040)??? (PL048)??? (PL049)??? (PL041)Franz (PL017)Gao (PL016)Alfred (PL028)??? (PL046)??? (PL043)??? (PL042)??? (PL045)Ryo (PL029)Kasumi (PL027)??? (PL038)??? (PL044)
>>564731739how many sausages
Maybe you should've fucked him up beforehand instead of playing mickey clubhouse with him all this time
>>564731739doubt it, maybe a 3rd one and that's it. the game simply isn't popular enough to warrant 5 seasonsSNK is at least trying to support it though
>>564732297>>564732870>Schizo
>>564733312>calling them names will deter them!!lol middle school behavior
>Evo Japan>SNK trailer>Krauser stomping everyone>Carrying Terry's corpse, along with other bodies>"Only a demon is fit to rule South Town">...Suddenly laser beam out of nowhere>Camera pans to the source>"This city has no place for demons">See this>?????????
>>564734268>>564735331>Schizo
>>564735331oh no no no no no anti-frieren bros........... we cannot have this over our ignored mexican heritage animu character that would be as dimeless as a piratable neogeo game in our country....we must climb the metaphorical fences to make our illegal (because of piracy) voices be heard.......
Is krauser atleast A tier?
>>564735331if the saudi guy likes frieren it could definitely happen
>>564715954If only the game were like this...
>>564727840What did they improve everyone is still good and sunshine and rainbows
>>564736619should i retract my statement then? i need more evidence to support a retraction
>>564735331Mid anime for tourists
Krauser is so fucking annoying
>>564736619No retard
who the hell is frieren?
describing something as mid around snk is like an ant trying to call a spider a mere insect
Aura farming master
>>564737586Kain could've been the coolest morally gray character. someone like the navy admirals in one piece, but know he had to play the role of the cute uncle for rock,
>>564737415See >>564736886
>>564736346I bet he likes Gaara from Naruto
>>564738717Who doesn't? Gaara is fucking sick.
>>564738964Nah
>>564738964>>564739187both of them were neglected in shippuden and turned to gag characters.
>>564738964If you're still 15 yeah
So Kain wants to use Rock as a vessel for the Jin ancestor to help him reach his utopia? Hate when my uncle does that.
>>564740213there's something slightly manipulative about kain afterall in this story, so he's not completely goody
>>564731739How the fuck is SNK is putting in putting fan favorite and new characters in their DLC while Capcom is like "Lol yeah put Tifa in"
>>564740607>putting fan favoritewhat fans
>>564738328He was soft since the jump though, but yeah EOST made him a little TOO friendly. I'm glad the new story mode fixed him somewhat. He should still care for his nephew especially with his sister back but I'm glad he makes it clear that he is genuinely willing to kill Rock if he has to but he's willing to let him walk his own path and gain his own understanding on things too since he's sure that Rock will see things the same way he does some day.
>>564741425*somewhat soft
>>564741425it's impossible to make him evil now or progress Rock's character, when his mother is alive. It's pointless, and her being alive only cements the perfect good life he will have in the future. It's clear that they never planned for a sequel or an actual closure to the plot threads MOTW left. Only way to get things back on track is to get her killed by a third party, but it will still be a cliche narrative. Basically just stop caring about the story.
COTW is probably the final Garou game, so SNK just wants to give everyone proper closure instead of sequel baiting for another 26 years.
>>564740607If season 4 and 5 happen I think they are just making up for the shitty guests that everyone hated. And maybe using DLC to train new staff.If they get more stuff like Kenshiro it's a plus because the feedback for the announcement was overwhelmingly positive
>>564742182it just proves that oda actually has no hope of making snk an aaa company, and just making goodbye games to fans, which is actually selfish on his side.
>>564741797Kain was never supposed to be evil. He's a morally grey well-intentioned extremist. He doesn't want anarchy or is looking to benefit personally from his vision for second south, he wants to make the city into one where everyone regardless of class is on an even playing field. Not to mention he genuinely cares for the people who work for him, and that's been established since MoTW. Rock is actively finding himself instead of just spinning his wheels and thinking about his place and perspective in all this and make his own moves in the city, hopefully taking part in the politics going on in the city with Franz judging by the end of the story mode. His mother being alive doesn't have to hinder any of that. Rock's mother is important to him but she's never been the end all be all for him, nor for Kain. It's just now she might get caught up in the middle between the inevitable conflict between her brother and her son which is unironically a good conflict, maybe even having to pick between them or being used by Kain to force Rock under his thumb. Her just randomly getting killed off by a third party instead of being a key part of the personal conflict between her family would be a complete waste.
>>564742614It's her time.
>>564702236Boy, I have some news for you
>>564742741Yeah, well, it's hard for SNK to climb when you have retards like Max with dogshit takes like pic.
>>564741797>t's pointless, and her being alive only cements the perfect good life he will have in the future. It's clear that they never planned for a sequel or an actual closure to the plot threads MOTW left.It already can't be a "perfect good life" when Grant's dead.As for Kain, it's a bit hazy on how he'll end up. On one hand I don't think Rock or Terry have intentionally killed someone in the Fatal Fury series (I don't know how they explain FF1's Geese falling) But on the other the narrative makes such a big deal of him being determined to create the world he and Grant wanted to the point that I believe Krauser even compares him to a beast that would rather die than surrender. It feels like Kain will die in some way in order to stop him (either at someone else's hands or committing sudoku to be with Grant or something) but it's not impossible for SNK to just have him live because lmao.>>564742182I got that vibe too, especially with them bringing up the scrolls while confirming that they're gone.
>>564743258you can't pretend to have a story and then not talk about relationships, even platonic ones, it's like walking back on things you established yourself, so yes, "respectfully what the hell"it's like they shoot themselves in the face and then wonder why they're bleeding and think that it's because of the zoomer generation not playing arcades anymore
>>564743258Okay so all the OVA, drama cds, Andy's profile in FF3 about wanting to marry Mai, Mai's constant persistence, finally letting them be a couple in KOFXIV, and Andy talking about taking her out on a date and implying he's finally ready to propose to her in CoTW is just gonna amount to fucking nothing? Not to mention all the Terry and Mary shit they gave us in this game and the tease between those two for years but just actually just officializing and solidifying them being together would be too hard? They can't spare a fucking cg of Andy and Mai getting married, Terry finally taking Mary on an official date date? they can't be this fucking retarded.
>>564743979it's funny how even capcom got with the program on this and snk is like "nop what is this relationship thing where are my dementia pills btw wait who am i"
>>564743979They just want an out to excuse themselves from doing literally fucking anything interesting, which defeats the purpose of boasting about being storytellers. It's like they actively WANT to be seen as uninteresting relics
kk.kk.your company can't seriously be giving this kind of rhetoric and not feel stupid afterwards
>>564743258Japanese aren't like Americans, they won't put sex scenes, and pathetic gf and bf drama like in soap operas, which is what you all want. For them a progress in a relationship or making it official means marriage, and marriage means kids. They're saving it for a future protagonist being Andy and Mai's son.
>>564744818I still firmly believe that's what hokutomaru was initially going to be and then they pussied out at the last minute.
>>564743258Snk devs =/= NuSnk devs
This story feels like it's directly addressing the "Why is Kain a good guy" complaints.Also yeah they've hammered down that he's very much morally grey. I think they understand the character.
>>564744818>they won't put sex scenesthe region of the world that frequently has sex scenes in a lot of anime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fepS8YoqNp8I like that Mai actually fucking hated Andy at first. It makes her being so head over heels for him in their adult life so much more endearing.
>>564745950too bad apparently it's never gonna fucking go anywhere!
>this game was made with the west in mind>so when are andy and mai hooking up>you don't understand, they're appealing to japanese otaku with this, so they can't be in a relationship>???
>>564742182>>564742741So, Oda = Ivan Vanko?
>>564746141That's because CotW is the last Fatal Fury game ever and they were saving the marriage for another one. KOF will never expand this relationship unless fans actually twist SNK's arm behind their backs
>>564745105I don't think so, because his hair is black. They probable just wanted to taste the waters with him. Their kid will not be short than mc not some side character.
>>564746227which means you need a tony stark to oust himsomeone who actually learns from mistakes instead of leaning hard into them https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk2ocXjjm2g
>>564743258holy fuck. they really can't help but shoot themselves in the fucking foot anytime they do something people actually like. i'm honestly impressed by them being this bad at reading the room.
They've found a cool way to link Krauser to Kain but I can't get over the fact that he always walked with that armor on everywhere he goes that's badass
>>564743258does anyone have a link to this interview
>>564747060>That Real Bout 2 ending where Krauser keeps destroying his armor, forcing his servants to repair it until they get fed up.
>>564747060It's an interesting addition for sure. It's definitely something they just pulled out their ass but it worked surprisingly well here. Also of course he does, he needs the peasants to know how much better he is than them at all times.
>>564745548japanese never put outright sex except in hentai. It's all fanservice in the form of ecchi.
>>564747916that's a lieand furthermore, it's also disingenuous to frame this entire topic established by >>564743258 as sex scenes only as if the question is only addressing lack of sex scenes and not just building a relationship in general like that hasn't happened in anime/manga
>>564742741>>564746890Ha ha now you anons are making me think that Oda is "walking so that someone else can run." I mean, If even Kojima and Phil Spencer were fired...
>>564749010oda is walking, but backwards, while mumbling something about the "good ol arcade days"
Hype moments and aura
>>564743258>Andy is gay poster was right
>>564749668no in fact, we owe andy an apology. him and terry both. they're not gay, they're just in the hands of complete fucking retards.
>>564749668kurt maingle
>>564743258Mai always loved Andy. Do they really think people will feel cucked if they get married?
>>564731739give me franco bash
>>564750120I see way more people demanding that they get married already than detractors. in fact even a good number of the detractors want them to get married too. it's actually what they're pissed about.
>>564731739Seems about right, they know about the leaks and are doing a better job of hiding who they are this time. But the reason this makes sense is because it'd give it one more years of support, ending at the end of 2027. The fact that they are able to crank out new content as fast as they have been is pretty insane
>>564740213That couldn't possibly backfire, this is the fucking Motion Picture all over again
Rock gets sick of Kain's bullshit and finally leaves after jobbing to him of coursePoor Marie having all this happen on the birthday she spent alone.
>>564747192It was a live stream on the official COTW discord on Thursday but they said they would made the VOD available soon
>>564753986>on the official COTW discord>discordbut of course
It's simply beautiful.I didn't know I miss it so badly.
Being honest I'm not old enough to have seen it, but let me larp.
>even smaller sized carts that have larger storage capacity on more advanced systems are priced less than theseabsurd
>>564756367>>564756598>no white gamepadSad
Franz is a JoJo character
>>564758392this clearly means he's smoking while not of the proper age
>>564758392Just replace bird by wolf.
>>564746193>filename but it's okay be gay for illumi
*with wolf
>>564731739>Five seasonsHow will doomer schizo cope knowing this now?
Tifa was a mistake.Should have been Rock Howard.
why the need for cope, if they try to improve their game based on comments and criticisms that marks wouldn't give because they kiss ass a lot, it's a commendable actbut shooting yourself in the foot with comments like >>564743258 can paint a sorry picture of the company
"Hey. We're important too!"
>>564762124Who?
>>564762124wait, what are they doing with this
Kaiser wave!
>>564762124Kevin is boring. Freeman is better.
I can't believe Chun-li killed Krauser. Rip ;_;
>>564762701Kain's manipulations of the Second South government aren't being obstructed anymore. He's presumably lowering the influence of the security forces to make his "survival of the fittest" vision a reality.
I'm going to play AoF4 now. Thanks, Oda.
>>564759432Good one desu.
>>564762701Kain won>>564762949Let's hope he gets out of that prison
>>564763532If you want men to look like women you’re fucking gay
Mr. Big finally gets to be cool in the alternate route
>>564764246It's all SNK's fault! Not mine!
>>564764494Why does Gao look and act like a flaming faggot? Wasn't he supposed to be a hardass "rabid" master fighter?
>>564765174you just clearly don't understand rabid development
>>564765174He's pretty cool wym
>>564743307Fucking chinger
>>564762795Seems like all the flashy animations, tweaks, and desperate marketing still can’t drag this garbage excuse for a game into triple digits. What a tragedy...just kidding. It’s honestly satisfying to watch it flop.
Kain straight up dies in the alternate route
>>564770649>It’s honestly satisfying to watch it flop.Why do you hate Oda, anon?
>>564770649if the game released this year with all this content, it would've had a far better reception. Of course it will never sell that much or even get mediocre numbers like strive's 2k concurrent players, but people atleast won't have the impression of a bad game that flopped, just of an unlucky release like DNF Duel. Which will help SNK in the long term with their next releases, but now, they're back to zero and have to earn the consumer's trust.
Oh, God. So many empty chairs......and it's top 8... lol
>>564771971Game was way too fucked PR wise to ever succeed. If I didn't know any better I would've thought it's some soulless saudi promotion machine too.
>>564772495The game was fucked from the start because it had ps2 graphics, competing with SF6 and Tekken 8, who looked AAA and the best they've ever been and were already fresh games, all that coupled with using Ronaldo for marketing, but the Ronaldo ingame, doesn't look at all like real Ronaldo, because again the game had shit graphics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6Gx4-p_eYAlvl up expo 26 cotw top 8
Do you need the season 2 pass to play the new story?
>>564774879no
>>564775736thanks
>>564774592there's a virtua fighter player crowd for this top 8
It's kinda insane how Mexican players always choke when they are about to win
this one didn't choke, cool
Only way for Franz to be cool is to be a villain like Kira or Pucci, a guy that looks totally normal and charming, but is actually fucking crazy with weird delusions the moment he opens his mouth.
>>564735331>OMG DID SOMEONE SAY DEMON I HAVE TO PUSH MY MEME ANIME!Fuck off
>Fuck offlmaocan't wait for frieren to take down krauser
>>564771394now to chisel a gravestone
Congrats to Dany defeating ZjZ, punk, and go1 to win level up.
>>564773635Schizo post.
deceptyfag putting in overtime in the snk dff department
I think Go1 has lost the touch.
>>564735331>>564782146
>>564743307>Goes to play Yakuza Kimawi 3, the game with the IRL rapist>Shills Capcom anyway despite being 11% owned by Saudis now>Shills 2XKO despite being Riot and Tencent's problems>Tries making COTW content and pretending he had nothing with its floppingBoycott Maxshillian!!
japanese don't give a shit about rape this ronaldo that or max mode and they still didn't buy it in masses
>>564784842Japan only plays Dix.
>>564785104oh well maybe they didn't hold andy and mai away from each other like the otakus wanted enough
My fuaking heroes!
Hear me out: Morrigan as DLCHer Hidden Gear is Eternal Bliss (Combination of Dimitri's Midnight Bliss and her Eternal Slumber from MvC1) where she turns her opponent into a girl (or if they're already a girl, make them way cuter or sexier) then curtains roll while Morrigan and Lilith "have fun" with their confused (and curious) opponent.
>>564762795>Krauser beat Chun and S2My liege...
>>564785952We're never seeing these goobers again. Maybe Zarina in the background of a stage at best
>>564731739Where did this come from? I'm a console retard who can't check the files for myself.
Y'all aren't ready for Morrigan's Hidden Gear.
>>564789582i'll allow itso we can finally change bjenet into a woman
>>564800602Morrigan uses Eternal Bliss on B. Jenet and treats herself to THIS.
>>564743258ODAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!
I'll just goon to some Taimanin porn before I go to sleep. Hope SNK announces Yukikaze as DLC when I wake up.
game is done forhttps://x.com/PhanpyBogard/status/2048111015120818587
>>564704679He didn't kill himself lmao, no body no death. No your tropes.
>>564798954datamiine after the last update
>>564806742Anyone in the community corroborating it? Haven't been able to find anyone talking about this huge development outside of threads here and the subreddit.
>>564704847spoiler for the surprise of capcom characters in a Krauser short anime? The animators gave her a bit of bounce.
>>564807798For referencehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3GRDVsZHgQ
>>564731739Yamazaki and Freeman are in.
>>564808434If Freeman were in one of these slots would be PL010.
>>564807442i think the guy who made that post in the subreddit datamined it hiimself
Marisa should have been greek and have a rivalry with HakanAlso the SFVI should have the system called VITAL instead of Drive.
>>564732523I know you don't play the games, but he did beat Kain in Garou but Terry isn't a killer.
i thought i was in /fgg/ for a moment and had to check
>>564809548Not to mention, he trusted Rock to stop Kain and do the right thing if the dude went to far. Not to mention he likely didn't want to risk Rock missing out on the chance to save his mother. Terry can't just go beating the shit out of Kain willy nilly.
Did any SNK fighter have parry? Is Just Guard considered parry?>>564809285>>564809762this isn't /fgg/? My bad.
watching punk kicking kofapes asses feels so good brosbro be playing a violin whilst those chimpanzees throw fresh feces to each others
Did Feilong or Kyo get a rekka first?
>>564811086it's named after fei long's rekka-ken special so think about it for a second
>>564809943>Just Guard considered parry?No.
>>564811086Kyo wasn't even a Rekka character until his third game. He also didn't debut until a year after Fei Long
>>564810754>Gets raped by el maza and gio
>>564811983so two tierwhores that main the game? could happen yeah bro was just having some fun before winning sf6 tourney
I miss the look of the old main menu, but they definitely do feel more responsive to navigate, so that's cool.>>564792941I feel like that speaks more to how hard SNK fumbled their side of the collab
>>564815183For what Ken and Chun-Li brought to CotW, it was more impressive than anything from S1 or S2 up until Krauser. It speaks more to CotW as a game than SNK's effort on the collab
>>564815965>It speaks more to CotW as a gamei don't think a lot of people got that messageexcept for maybe a triple digit number at best
SOVLhttps://x.com/i/status/2048264536109760590,
>>564815183They didn't fumble shit, the game is less popular. The series is less popular.(Even though Chun's face looks better in COTW and she's a stronger character in COTW)
>>564818090>the game is less popularthis seems like a hard pill for the peeps in here to swallow, like there's always the "it's because of max or woke mob fury over ronaldo" reasons that the game isn't played, but do even mexicans and the like care about ronaldo rape
>>564815183>I miss the look of the old main menuYou can't be serious
>>564811287Sometimes what it's popular far isn't the first one that does ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGWF0MXnn2Ueg. Swedes did the cobra maneuver before the Ruzzkis but they got the claim for it
>>564818992fair enoughbut fei long legitimately did exist before kyo did with the move even and kyo's didn't come until 96 to fight gaynuts because of some not-in-game reason of modifying his fighting style to not get destroyed by gaynuts
The games on 800 on steam charts? Pretty decent. Kenshiro gets the game into 1000s
>>564819145Thank you, brother
>>564818090>They didn't fumble shitNo, they fumbled pretty much every aspect of building hype for their side of the collab, which has been pretty much par for the course when it comes to SNK's marketing (although they have gotten better lately). As far as strength goes, do any top players even play her in cotw? At least go1 does pretty well with her in sf6.>>564818960I don't like SF6's menu, so it follows that I also don't like a worse looking version of it. At least the comic book page had some style and the alternate art options were neat. The main problem with them was how delayed navigation felt and general qol when it came to the online subsections, so I feel they could have just addressed that and left the rest the same.
The fact that snk copied SF6 main menu after two collabs is just beyond pathetic. Oda isn’t hiding it, he’s like an animal in heat sending mating calls to Capcom.
>>564811086BODY GA!
>>564817910I like Ryo CORRECTION walk in the very end.
HOLY SHIT BROS RYO CONFIRMED? YURI CONFIRMED???
>>564823141>Unique entrance animation with .so they references a well known piece of crossover art between the two>Well done Obari animation showcasing chun li vs. mai>Classic and modern outfits>FREEThey didn't fumble shit you mouth breathing imbecile. And yes Chun lonis used effectively in high level play. She was in the top 8 of the last two COTW tournaments held this week. Google is free, bitch.T
>>564830483Suck my sissy male clit, you little fuck.
>>564827742>he’s like an animal in heat sending mating calls to Capcom.hahaha
>>564818845Mexicans are obsessed with and raised on combohopslop. It's not their fault. SNK was basically a KOF only company for 26 years. SNK comes out with Fatal Fury, and those guys are "WTF is this? It's too slow. They need to put Kyo in!" They're retarded, but it's not their fault.
>>564817910Looks good. But they're not gonna attract anyone new with those gorilla proportions and moe-like models.
>>564815183Only thing better about the old menu is the Yellow and Black color theme was matched the rest of the menus in the game. Now it's a mix of color themes. It's Western pop art in some places, then Manga in the other.
>>564811086Fei Long - 1993.Rekka version of Kyo - 1996
>>564811086I think only Mizoguchi from world fighters precedes fei long by like a few months
>>564829698Isn't she his sister?
alex married his sister, why can't ryo do the same?
>we want the Legend of the Galactic Heroes audienceFranz would bring so many yumes to whale in KOFg2...
>>564809548I was talking about how chummy they've gotten in COTW prior to this story mode, never did I imply he should've killed him.
SNK should just hire desk to do all their trailers and promo videos instead of whatever pajeet h1b they got to do the current oneshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpX80mVLB-g
>>564838615hi desknah we're not giving a blood penny to youdo it for free if you will
>>564836000cousin-sister. don't be a degenerate.
>>564838948but he does do it for free
>>564835513Incest is way hotter.
>>564817910All I’ve seen them doing were fighting moves and now an actual cutscene between yuri and ryo training together, so probably it’s really for an AoF game. This means the game is still 1 or 2 years away if they’re just started doing motion capture.
>>564838615Not doing a parry montage for Geese is such a dropped ball. The trailer guy thinks he can do arcsys cutscene spam shit without the visuals carrying it
>>564838615>generic comparison compilation video >omg snk hire this man!!
>Kain>KrauserWhat a mess. It's time for the real kingpin of the South Town to clean it up.
>>564836871Getting Marie back was Kain's goal and it was what Rock wanted, so Terry and Kain had little reason to be hostile.
>>564836234It’s lightyears away for snk to reach the writing skills of LoGH characters.
>>564829698The 101% kyokugen inheritor Takuma wanted.
>>564840223yeah he should have posted that Orpheus guy
>>564840574Hi, Falcoon. How's it going, man?
>>564843582Pretty good, man! Heard that magesluts is the new trend in FGC, so have been doing some preparations.
I'm rewatching LB2 videosCurrent SNK will never recreate so much soulhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSXNJWwuWko
>>564840223Unironically would be better than 2 clips of a half a combo and then half a minute of EoST menus followed by a clip of Hidden Gear which is always cut at the end
>>564838615His talent is undeniable. But it's a shame his channel is 70% Street Fighter/Capcom.
>>564843927Based!
>>564843931Why did all Japanese games stop having blood? Was it just because of Cero? Noticed that sometime around the early 2000s, it just went away. KOF had blood splatter up until 99 I think, GG got rid of it in accent core, SF iirc only had it in 2 but removed it in pretty much every other future game. Obviously there's some exceptions like Samsho but all the major titles got rid of it.
>>564843582snu snu with impregnation play please
>>564844242China has a no blood rule. Companies don't want to lose their money.
>>564843931>16:52
>>564844923Photorealistic combo
>>564844242KOF had it all the way up to XI
>>564840729Yeah he has no reason to be hostile to the sketchy manipulative guy who popped up out of nowhere spouting extremist ideals and took Rock away.I was half joking when I said he should've fucked him up but trying to justify sharing banter and casually hanging out with him is retarded.
>>564846719Ah you're right, somehow I forgot about Oswald's LDM giving characters hundreds of paper cuts
>>564847150>he should've fucked himTrue
>>564843927cringe faggot
>>564843927based chad
ugly piece of shit i hope she dies
>>564851019Beautiful SEAqueen I hope she gets pregnant.
Genuinely what the fuck am I supposed to do against Krauser? Who thought it was a good idea to give him super armor in a game with Rev blow? Why can he just do everything?
One thing that annoys me is that out of the known 28 playable characters (I counted Kenshiro and Mr. Karate) for COTW, only 6 of them are female.I know Fatal Fury is infamous for its low female roster, and that the FGC is a male-dominated field, but come on now.
Genocide on all Krauser players
>>564853738There's still room to fix that with DLC, though if SNK were to bring in more female guests, I'm not sure which characters would they choose over a popular male character, like say: Goku or Luffy or whatever, and net way better results. (cough Frieren cough)Out of boredom, I went to check 3S's roster and only 4/19 are female.I'm confident Art of Fighting 4 will be heavily overhauled to appeal to modern audiences, it's kind of the same problem of bringing Darkstalkers back, nobody will miss Rikuo or Lord Raptor. if SNK plans to introduce a lot of new characters to AoF4, they need to be cool, attractive and able to stand on their own.I also want more women to jack off to than just Yuri or Kasumi.
>>564855323Stop being a bitch Rugal. You stole Krauser's signature move.
>>564855807Having shit like Kenshiro is already retarded enough. If they're going to do anime collapse leave it for KOF since they can take liberties with that world.
>>564855323Genocide *Cutter on all Krauser players
>>564851019I didn’t think Preecha could look any worse, then I saw her in Juri’s outfit.
>>564856119If they were bringing old anime characters, they should've added Tetsuo from Akira.
>>564847150Terry has faith in Rock to do the right thing. Kain is not his fight for now.
>>564855807Oda said their goal with the new AOF is manliness like hokuto no ken so I don't expect that many female newcomers desu
6 females isn't the end of the world. If it were the other way round, you'd be saying this game is for gooners
>>564856820>Terry has faith in Rock to do the right thinWell yes that explains why he let Rock go. Not why he's suddenly friends with Kain in Arcade and EOST.
>>564856582You don't get it do you
>>564856874KOF has a nice balance but that's just because KOF going on for longer and not being so tied to "muh Martial Arts" let them get a lot more creative with the characters. Since most KOF expats are too lore heavy for FF, you could only get away with like one or two for roster padding at best and it wouldn't be any of the really popular ones it'd have to be someone inoffensive like Hinako, which doesn't fix CotW's female roster problems desu
>>564856874Coomers are weird. You don't see me bullying the DOA devs on socials for not having an equal amount of males. Creatives should be able to do what they want and not adhere to sex appeal quotas
damn we really have women in this thread
>>564858416
>>564858960>right after he gets discovered to be a gay pedoyou can't make this shit up>snk fags tend to be anticoomer types despite having mai in their rosters>they love futa x shota doujinshmmmmm coincidence???
>>564859251>>snk fags tend to be anticoomer types among other hundred things you made up to justify being a loser in these threads
>>564859992says the kwab
>>564844242Real answer: there was a serious crackdown on teen gang violence, which spread to depictions of bloody violence in teen games. That, in combination with a recession and overall lameness in censorship that started around 2001 from CERO, as you said.
>>564862347I don't understand why companies still think age rating matters in marketing so much so that they'll rather limit their own work. Persona is rated M and half of their playerbase are probably younger than that
>>564857543>not being so tied to "muh Martial Arts" let them get a lot more creative with the charactersBro, your Sokaku?
>>564864285More like Sokakwho
>>564817910I think we had a post about this showing Haohmaru on the small screen that has Ryo/Yuri now, and the dude doing Power Geyser in another one so I don't think this is related to new games, it's more testing stuff.
I like Sokaku. I just wish he was a cute girl (like Akari) instead of a bald, middle-aged man.
>>564865761He's a cute little girl inside
Just add the Buriki one cast into AoF, problem solved.
>>564866528For me I think the opposite is better, a Buriki one game as a 3d fighter with AoF characters as guests. It will draw more people than AoF4
>>564855807Personally I would love to see Sinclair return but that's only because I like her design.
>>564866528More gay men?
>>564843958>a clip of Hidden Gear which is always cut at the endFunny, they always treat them like secret fatalities or something.
>>564865761>make a rival to two young hot people>make him old instead of young and hot
>>564863381Oh, they know and don't care (see: GTA and Mortal Kombat targeting kids). They just don't wanna get sued.
>>564867184What’s gay about them? You know most fags are actually into muscular big men like Ryo and Kenshiro
Why can't Kinkymation do a character review for KOF XV? She did one for SF6 and Tekken 8, It's not fair...She even did a Chun-li thigh tribute, using COTW Chun as reference, without even talking about COTW itself...
>>564869392>literally named Gai>K*rean>Aikido kid with soft aestheticAll self explanatory.>muscular big menAll of them are muscular (as martial artists tend to be) and they are big by Asian standards. Muscular and big doesn't mean roided freaks, like modern SNK Ryo (fuck KoF12-13 character designer).
>>564869661They didn't pay her to
>There is still more in store for City if the Wolves in the years aheadDoes this mean that SNK is finally moving away from their fast fighting game releases? With the datamines in mind seems like COTW will be around for a while.
>>564808717the way PL010 is implemented is a mess due to him not being planned and they're better off making a new id for him
>>564874368Krauser acts evil, there’s no reason to not add freeman anymore
Temu Iori, and also literally the worst character in Garou...And I know you guys like to clown on Kevin, but he earned a legacy for being the best character in Garou, like Yun in 3S.
>street fighter out of nowhere why do capcucks keep doing random comparisons
>>564875173They already had him arrested in Kevin's ending instead of continuing that story with him in the roster for some retarded reason. Unlikely we'll see him
Literally unplayable.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lvc6uCDiOGU
>>564876383I'm not the biggest Freeman fan but I never understood the arguments against him "he was low tier 25 years ago". Why does that matter now?
>>564875239You’re some weirdo who says the same thing everytime people ask for him, did he molest you or what? There’s no hardcore fans for freeman, we just want the full roster of motw to be included as they promised, stop being a little bitch.
>>564877630You're getting Freeman sooner or later, it doesn't matter. I just get annoyed when people pretend he was some heccin cool when in reality, nobody actually gave a fuck about Freeman.We'll see what SNK eventually do to improve him, he'll probably be season 3 opener character like Jae Hoon.
>temu ioriAs if Ryo who’s planned to be released isn’t a temu ken when real ken is in the game lol. Your case completely falls apart, atleast Iori isn’t in cotw.
>>564877630>we just want the full roster of motw to be includedMotW roster is wasted slots when even Yamazaki isn't there yet.
>>564830483Like I said, they're cool in-game, but the SF guests (Chun especially) had next to no hype building to their release. Also, the Obari animations have been pretty hit or miss tbqh. It's definitely cool they exist though.And I get that you're upset, but getting top 8 in a <40 man bracket is not really conclusive proof that she's stronger in cotw than in sf6. GO1 won a 2,300 person online bracket with her in sf6 on top of plenty of other strong placings (including top 8 at EWC). Also, that guy is a chun autist who has good results with her in sf6 for a player who isn't a top pro.
>>564833116Yeah, I didn't even touch on the colors, but the new ones are weird. I get the yellow and black could be a bit hard on the eyes though.
>>564855807Rikuo aside, I think people would definitely miss Lord Raptor. I still don't understand how it would ever make sense to bring back AoF, especially right after reviving FF (aside from the obvious "Mr. Saudi Prince wants to revive all his favorite dormant arcade series"). Unless it actually is a Yakuza knock-off, but I highly doubt SNK could execute that concept well.
>>564871780>Whitewashed John Streets from the default black guy to a white manB-based?!
>>564881312>Yakuza knock-offHaving a Yakuza alternative now would be the perfect window with Gang of Dragon officially dead and even normalfags slowly getting tired of Yakuza's stagnation and RGG's laziness. A competent company that had plans for a Yakuza-like would easy take advantage of the opportunity but as you said it's unlikely SNK would be able to do that, especially in a genre they've never worked on before.
>>564876383Not reallyhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=nBjUODl3c40
>no Freeman>no hot blonde agentOda is gay
>>564883174I wish Freeman actually looked like this instead of a generic long-haired pretty boy.
Impressive how me, a high master in sf6, I struggle in silver wolverine ranks in cotw.I returned to this game I think it is fucking hard.
alright bought Fatal Fury and I'm a noobhoping to learn and get better
>>564881312>>564882767then bring back the man himself Nagoshi to make it since Netease ditched him.
>>564887972Cool. It's a good game, hope you like it.
How do we feel about Ryoko for CoTW?https://www.youtube.com/shorts/cIVKkiBirTA
>>564889490I'd rather have Jeanne D'arc as the World Heroes rep.
>>564731739reminder that Freeman already has the ID PL010, which isn't listed here, so he might not be coming wonder why SNK hates him so much
>>564888214The fact that not a single company jumped in to save the project is beyond me. This is SNK's chance but I highly doubt they even know it exists.
>>564856119>Having shit like Kenshiro is already retarded enoughFor every dollar spent working on a shitty guest character is one dollar they could have spent bringing in an actual character for an actual fan.
>>564889490She's based on a real Japanese person, so I don't think she belongs.
>>564891091>wonder why SNK hates him so much
>>564891270>The fact that not a single company jumped in to save the project is beyond meHe's demanding 44 million on top of the money Netease already put, meaning they must split the revenue. between 3 companies. Yeah no matter how good is it, I doubt it will make E33 numbers. Nobody will bail him out.
Wasn't SNK funded by China before Saudi ?
>>564891091I feel like it's less hate, and more like nobody actually wanted to work on Freeman, they probably think he's aethetically boring, or nobody was really interested to work on him for COTW.You can get team to passionately work on Iori, Mature, Vice, Yamazaki, etc... But Freeman seems to lack an "it" factor to captivate Japanese devs in 2026, he's all edge and no sauce.Freeman should have been a girl from the start, at least by then he would have left a lasting impression on fans since people tend to be way more forgiving to female characters over male ones.
>>564890421Same here but I can already feel Oda making up some bullshit like she wouldn't fit the setting despite including shit like Ronaldo and Kenshiro(who's cool but come on). Besides CoTW doesn't have any judo rep so...
>>564892963Korea.
>>564892963Noooo, you don't understand. Sajam told me Saudi is the big satan, so I can't support these SNK guys even though I have never heard about them in my life before. (I do know Terry from Smash and Mai from SF6, but I have no idea who made them, though.)
>>564892020Like that would stop them. WH has time travel and dimension hopping in it anyways. Some japanese girl coming and seeing a town full of fighters and wanting to test her stuff would be the simplest shit to implement into CoTW.
>>564893032Why are you guys so obsessed with turning this game into an SNK all stars when we already have a series for that
>>564892020>She's based on a real Japanese person,Versus the clearly fictional French and Russian persons.
Of course in an ideal world we'd get an older Tsugumi but they seem to just completely ignore her existence
>Has Ryoko and Jeanne who both want his dick>would rather get his ass pounded by his rival FuumaWhy are SNK ninjas like this?
Hanzo is BIG GAY
Happy 30th anniversary.
>>564894565>Has virgin ainu wife and basic bitch maiden down to fuck>Would rather clash swords with his gay boyfriendIt's not just the ninjas...
>>564893506Ryoko is still alive, she's no a historical person
>>564892997I do agree with what you're saying but Kevin is in COTW and he's as bland as white bread with nothing on it
Humiliation ritual
>>564899561They only did it to "finish" his character arc, that's why he's gotten zero attention since launch
>>564899561To help Kevin's case, he's also related to Blue Mary, Marco's related to Kyokugen dojo, Hokutomaru is related to the Shiranui clan, Dong Hwan and Jae Hoon are related to Kim Kaphwan.Tizoc, B. Jenet, Gato and Hotaru are charming characters who can stand on their own.Freeman has... nobody... He also just gets shot and disappears in his ending.
>>564902918I think the game would've sold better if Blue Mary replaced Kevin for base roster, but that's just me. Not even like 1000s better just, 100s better
>>564902918>he's also related to Blue Maryyou're being disingenuous, they never cared about and nobody knew about it until they clarified it recently in EOST. Freeman is not included only because Oda thinks a serial killer is too far for his safe family friendly American game. Of course they realized it was a big fuck up, which is why in the new story mode, there's been a big focus on the dark side of things. So Freeman could return.
>>564903995>you're being disingenuous, they never cared about and nobody knew about it until they clarified it recently in EOSTsecondary-kun...
Jealousy Bomber
>>564894565>>564894965>>564895348Shounen anime protagonists are gayer than any parade. You're lucky if they even notice girls.
>>564897456>she's no a historical personYes, that's all well and good but you're still real even if you're historical. There's a very clear difference between historical and fictional.
>>564911196Ironically for all the shit we give Andy at least it's confirmed he takes Mai on dates and kissed her in the OVA also the implication they've fucked at least once. He's just avoiding marriage like the plague but still it's something unlike most autists like Ryo, Ryu, and Hanzo.
>>564911367Nobody will sue you on behalf of juan of arc or rasputin retard.
>>564915598and no one's gonna sue since Ryoko is unlike the other world heroes is basically an OC that's only based on Ryoko Tani.
>>564915598>>564916017If M Balrog didn't have a case nether does this
>>564869661why would she want to, and of course snk could have paid her, hell they burn money buying others into talking about them to no efficacy>>564872148snk saying something means nothing to me>>564874368lookit all that xml, if i was a debugger they'd say i was "datamining" lmao except that's not what datamining is>>564884060he shoot comes off as gayis he even married>>564897456she is based off an irl judo martial artist https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryoko_Tani
>>564897456>>564920607whoops n/m i guess you already established thatmy bad
anyway now that i've caught upjust having a character merely based on someone's likeness if you can establish they aren't exactly that person such as fantastical interpretations of such aren't going to win you a case in the court of law for sureryoko in world heroes is not necessarily ryoko and the other anon is correct in that it is pretty much an oc inspired by the real personthere is no non-fitting argument to be made there as i'm sure the real life rasputin also did not bring shermie into his love garden for rape
judo girl tits remain undefeated
>>564921412Judo girls honk
>>564921412built for paizuri
Ryoko does have ridiculous tits though. holy fuck.
>>564891270No one jumped in because they have more info than you and they know it is shit lol. Plus to save the project whoever funds it has to pay back netease however much they spent on it plus 44 million to finish the project.
>>564875173Krauser is a much more popular character, don't be dense.
>>564855807>they need to be cool, attractive and able to stand on their own.to be more precise to add to what you said herethey need that star power, and most snk characters just don't have thatlike an absolute hit character that isn't just squandered like fuck, and it's even more urgent you have something like that now than everand the problem is, i don't think even snk's fanbase understands that
>muh female charactersDon't really care about this but they'll probably add Alice, Xiangfei, Tsugumi Sendo and hell if they need to just do another crossover with sf for female characters.
^mehican
>>564743258I'm honestly more mad for them backtracking the relationship between Robert and Yuri in XIV and XV.
Yuri is married to Robert in COTW
https://x.com/i/status/2048598012805419226
>>564926489Unless ALL these characters are heavily retooled/redesigned (except maybe Alice) they won't draw attention. They're also VERY redundant with archetypes already on the roster (Blonde American, Japanese Brunette, Chinese Brunette)What makes people like KOF girls is the variety of their designs. Most of the girls you mentioned were made in a bubble to fit a niche, but that niche usually tended to be an extra girlie rep for the currently released project at the time, without putting much thought into who they are or why we should give a shit about them. It's no real different than making new girls altogether. If they actually had decent character designers, this wouldn't be a problem, but instead we got Preecha. I feel the solution would be to expat KOF characters that don't need much explaining why they exist in Fatal Fury>Shermie: Just a normal ass girl in a band called CYS. No Orochi shit mentioned, similar to Kyo/Iori's bg cameo in MotW. I doubt Mature/Vice could work this way since they'd probably imply Rugal exists>Vanessa: Same scenario as Blue Mary. Her problem is she has overlap with Rick, so she's really unlikely>Hinako: No baggage at all, drop her in any time. I feel like people would like her more than Xiangfei or Tsugumi for being a parody of Sumo>Elisabeth: This one's more of a theory of what she could be like in a world without Ash entirelyI'd avoid characters like Leona, Chizuru, Angel, Sylvie or Isla since they tie too heavily into KOF lore to really function in Fatal Fury's world. Shermie is an exception since her grappler moveset has no overlap with Orochi Shermie thanks to being a plot twist. These won't "save" Fatal Fury, but I think you can retool them enough to add some fucking flavor to a roster that REALLY needs it. It's not like the roster isn't already tainted with retarded inclusions, but I'd like if SNK got clever with their lore instead of NEEDING to just retool literally whos because "they're from Fatal Fury"
>>564928737,Xiangfei doesn't need to be re-tooled lmao you don't play
i think preecha would have been *okay* if she had a different design, not necessarily those other selections but something that can at least midcard draw people in, and not just YET ANOTHER SNK GIRL WITH A PONYTAIL
>>564928737More amateur game dev advice from a person who even play the games and just wants artists to draw fanart he can jack off too.
rich coming from a general where its employees resume is petz games
>>564928907She needs to be retooled to make people who'd want to play as the prototype to Jam, especially now that Jam is actually back in Strive (if butchered)>>564929167She could've worked if they stuck with the orange color scheme I feel. The pink is what makes her gaudy. Color edit doesn't hide the fact her design could've worked if they just knew how to translate the concept art into something visually functional. Shun'ei has similar issues>>564929329I'm suggesting alternatives that'll actually get the game attention like how the only thing people talked about this game last year was the Mai and Chun-Li chest bump. You can cry about coomershit all you want, but nobody's playing this game for Kevin. Going "we need Tsugumi, Xiangfei and Alice" is VERY close minded and won't solve anything, SNK can work with what they have if it is a genuine problem
>>564928737>I'd avoid characters like Leona, Chizuru, Angel, Sylvie or Isla since they tie too heavily into KOF lore to really function in Fatal Fury's world. >Suggests Shermie, who is well known for being part of the Hakkeshu.Why not just make a new female grappler. Isn't Blue Mary technically a grappler anyway?
>>564929167Her design is fine aside from the hair colors. At least the color editor can fix that, unlike with Vox.
>>564865761I was sure they would have a Sokaku's disciple to rival Hokutomaru. But Mai fixing their feud herself was cool... if at least Sokaku was playable.
>>564929804>Her design is fine aside from the hair colors.it's bland and boring and meh, i even said this when her trailer hit, no popif you're gonna introduce a new character to an already bland roster, it would be extremely recommended to make it compensate for such blandness rather than blend in with the blandocityi know, i know, sudacas aren't good at anything nonbland, that's why their culture is mostly pirating and watching anime and manga instead, but they should at least kinda try to understand that there just needs to be something that stands out from the rest
>>564929778Because that loops back to what I said: If you hate Preecha (I actually don't, I find her cute) do you think they can ACTUALLY make good, new characters?Characters I suggested just need a bit of backstory retooling and not design or moveset retooling. You can plop them in without bringing up too many questions the same way apparently SNK can say Krauser now has a son we've never heard of before. You could probably drop in Mature/Vice since they have similar ability to Yamazaki, who has no justification for his abilities in FF, but then you have Rugal's secretaries just in FF and it's not like they were very goal-orientated characters to begin with. That's what I meanMain reason people even liked Jenet and Hotaru is they immediately stand out when on a roster. You're not gonna get either of them confused for Mai or Chun-li. Tsugumi or Xiangfei don't add anything other than being roster padding, which is underwhelming and uninteresting. Only Alice might be salvageable, but even then she's just SNK Sakura>>564929939They can still do this if they REALLY wanted to. It doesn't have to be a blood feud, just a normal rival. Would give Hokutomaru a reason to actually exist, since he doesn't right now. His Arcade mode doesn't even fight Andy cause Andy was fucking DLC
>>564930237> If you hate Preecha (I actually don't, I find her cute) do you think they can ACTUALLY make good, new characters?I like Preecha, her design works for the direction they took her (though they had a lot of good concepts for Joe's apprentice). As for if SNK could make good new characters, it seems they have the potential, but rarely stick the landing.
I still think they should make Vox's childhood assassin buddy playable.
>>564932371She's the basis for one of the E.O.S.T. enemies isn't she?Granted, I'd be cool with her being playable.
I can't believe that SNK still hasn't made Terry's classic costume available for purchase. Why do they hate money?
>>564934328they're really weird about alternate costumes for some reason.
>>564932371ponytail fatigue
>>564934328Athena alone could have kept them in DLC for ages with KOF and we got nothing
>>564935330even as a person not interested in athena, i agree that they could have made at least *some* bank on athena costumes, but i heard from some anon that they supposedly made excuses as to why they did not bother with alts in xv aside from terry and leona, and it was some really retarded bullshit that somehow applies only to them
>>564932371might as well collab with taimanin
>>564935942It's carried over into CotW, they're retards and can't make alts without being separate characters somehow which is why they can't seem to consistently balance both Terry alts within both games. They keep fucking something up. At this rate I don't even want alts from them anymore, just make EX alts that play differently and aren't them trying to manually balance both characters. I think people would be okay if Mai of all characters has two different playstyles. Would be funnier if Classic Mai was higher tier
>>564936447>They keep fucking something up.their data structures are probably really hardwired and proprietary, whoever is programming stuff like that doesn't know exactly how to write their classes in a way that should follow the fucking core principles of oop, two of those being polymorphism and abstraction, so everything they do is a few steps away from programming like yanderedevand btw stop suggesting switch statements for this bitch clown evashitphon if you don't even understand the asm routines that would end up from the compiled code, let alone the deeper sys level instructions
>>56493594214 gave us the 98 outfit so I just don't see why they couldn't have done something. Especially when modders seem so inclined to do so. I admit I didn't play the PC version so maybe something fucked up with it but there's quite a few it seems.
>>564743258>Capcom hears this
>>564937024>mai: hahaha is snk living in the 80s?? and by that i mean the 1880s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Xd8ckX-lqk&list=PLNQqlRcu2wfmshkFWmPw0aILrqcH4nqn1&index=14https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoVRBL2XSz0&list=PLNQqlRcu2wfmshkFWmPw0aILrqcH4nqn1&index=6Seriously how hard can this be. Some clipping issues but that hasn't not been an issue for far more complex things since 3d was invented
saar
>>564937294Not even an Athenafag, but even I know they haven't got her right in 3D yet.
>>564891091All the MotW newcomers were meant to be like SF3's newcomers - a new generation. Ironically, they were just as boring and hated. And just like SF3, the game flopped. Freeman is SNK's Necro and Q.
>>564887817CotW isn't hard, SF6 is just braindead.
>>564938565They rarely ever actually get Athena right to begin with, most of her designs post-Orochi Saga fucking suck. The best one's 2002's>>564938878They weren't hated, people just didn't care since 2D games were on the way out. The popular ones actually made it into KOF which is just what happens with SNK characters. It's why KOF is popular since it was mostly a dumping ground for characters people actually like and not dragged down by shitty, undercooked rosters until KOF started becoming that with the NESTS SagaLike do you think we'll ever get a game with Kevin, Freeman, Kims' sons or Hokutomaru ever again, now? Probably not, at least not without needing to be attached to more important characters. We'll still see Rock, Tizoc and Jenet plenty. Gato might be a coin flip since they ended his story on a wet fart
>>564938878>Ironically, they were just as boring and hatednigga wat? most i've ever seen in regards to complaints about the roster that it was just dumb to completely exclude every legacy character but terry. I've never seen any vitriol for the new cast besides maybe Kevin.
>>564822020Nice meme, bro.
https://x.com/crazyred28/status/2048228179840819699
>>564941479UH-OH! BIG!
>>564743258Daimon is allowed to get a wife and kid. Why shouldn't other characters also make some progress in their lives?
>EVO Japan>Only Japs who show up for SNK are 40+ year old uncs and mobile addictsWhat do?
>>564943946Daimon is a side character in SNK dating sims.Andy is capturable.
>>564928737Was with you till you said they need to add KOF girls.
>>564945576Mai...
https://youtu.be/63PIWEPQcNgThe difference in the effort they used to put in their trailers between now and then is sad. They have more money and staff now, what's their excuse?
>>564939261These threads is full of posers who got into SNK post KOFXV at most. Don't bother arguing with these morons.
SNK's qrt on KOF 2006 (MI2)>Now recruiting game planners>Applications being accepted via the link belowFalcoonchads...won?
>>564945576Reading his route opened my eyes to that Andy's not a bad boyfriend Mai's just crazy as hell and has no game.
>>564946029Between what and what? XIII and SNK Heroines?They tried extra hard for XIV specifically because a lot depended on it, but then they learned that it doesn't matter much and it's better to give more money to Obari instead.
>>564946919https://youtu.be/HiiX3xmkxmoThey did for Samsho as well. This is just them not giving a fuck anymore if anything.
SNK is hiring like crazy for several new projects.Why aren't YOU applying?
>>564928192Good robert sucks hope they completely ditch their relationship
So is nobody going to talk about how busted Krauser is or does no one play the game here
>>564948663>robert sucksYou suck. Robert is cool as fuck.
>>564928737You’re so fucking retarded
>>564935942>>564936447>>564936775None of this is true. Hilarious how some retard spread this lie years ago and the same muppets keep parroting it.
>>564947863Now that they killed Mr. Big, Pretty Big his moe daughter must inherit his empire, acting so tough only to fall head over heels for the handsome (AoF newcomer), and becomes a giant tsundere gag character.
>>564949328You only do that because you think he’s a latinx representation, but no buddy he’s Italian based on an American actor with Garcia as a surname because they thought Italian and Spanish are the same.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ_IzMmOguk
Terry's voice actor wouldn't have made so many remarks about Mai's classic costume if it wasn't actually coming back. You retards can stop the conspiracy theories.
>>564953142This isn't just about Mai's outfit anymore, it's about their weird approach/reluctance to making alternate costumes in general.
>>564954631It's not a reluctance when they just released one after releasing two like a month ago.
>>564946441of fucking course people will talk about a game from 20 years ago if that same game offered more than another one released 20 years later Falcoon >>> Oda
Chat, don't forget to boycott EVO Japan, we can't let the Saudis win.Now, watch my latest 2XKO video. N-no, I don't miss Chipotle money.
The US Army was sponsoring expo, I’m surprised nobody called it out.
how do I play gato? any tips?
>>564961264Close your eyes.
>>564947863because a seasoned person who has worked many real jobs before under stupid bosses knows exactly what to expect and knows what a hairpulling scenario that isand a moron who has only worked a couple nice jobs with friendly bosses will go in thinking he'll change everything to good from the start, like a dope entry level developer who goes in thinking "ha, i'm going to refactor their inefficient code and impress my seniors with how much better their product actually runs!" only to get hit with reality and be confused as to why his stupid take didn't come to fruition
>>564961264I don't play Gato butyou have his official video which includes an overview of his arsenal.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKCQ40VoNvkA wiki with deeper analysis and combos https://dreamcancel.com/wiki/Fatal_Fury:_City_of_the_Wolves/GatoAnd this guy uploads daily dozens of videos of high rank playershttps://www.youtube.com/@WolfFGC23In tournaments he is a popular pick, you have also lots of info.
>>564961041yes, and?
>>564963368Suck the tip of my cock faggot
>>564963829didn't know the us army angered you that badly
>>564939261Nobody outside of hardcore SNK fans like the MOTW roster. Proof is in all the fakers calling it their favorite game and fav roster, then turning around saying none of the COTW base roster appealed to them.>>564946163Your emo post doesn't even make sense. "I-it's the posers who wanna look OG who say the MOTW and SFIII were boring and flopped!" Think before you post.
>>564939146>They weren't hated,People either hated or were indifferent to them, because they're generic. Nobody popped when they revealed Kevin at EVO.
>>564936775That yandev code isn't even that bad. Using a million else-ifs looks ugly but he's not using magic numbers or anything so it's perfectly understandable at a glance.
>>564939146>ost of her designs post-Orochi Saga fucking suck. The best one's 2002's99 2000 and 03 were alright. I'd only really complain about 01 and that's because of the hair and the games weird art in general neither of which even look bad in the sprite
>>564966049>isn't even that badlol it was a stupid ideanow you're violating core principles of coding in general such as making common cases fasterif you've even *k mapped* before or flow control in asm combined with doing comparisons for strings you'd understand this is heavily redundant ass code that you're not going to fix even with compile time optimizations but just tell people to "go buy better hardware bro"
>>564967106forgot the image
when a coder is bad he won't see why such a thing is dumbpeople often say "use a switch statement -_-" but they say that without understanding that a switch statement is essentially at the core just another way of producing if/else under the hood, even with ~jump tables~and as much as i hate mike z for how he was complicit in throwing alex ahad under the bus before eating the karmic retribution himself, he knows what he's talking about and he too rightfully shat on yandev's coding skills, and mike z is not some joke programmer, he could code circles around snk's current talentand it's sad when you graduate from a school and now you think you know everything you need to know but you're not seasoned enough to know what you don't know
and in light of such, there's a difference between a programmer and a software engineera programmer programs what he's told to program, doesn't care how he gets there and is only concerned about getting results and fixing bugs, which is ideal if you're low on time and you just want to get to the end with as much features as possible by a certain deadline and maybe you'll sit on optimizations later or you'll just go "hey, as long as it works", and they probably have no idea why someone else is able to do something so easily when they think they've learned all the appropriate programming tech already to solve a probleman engineer is generally taking the time to think of things like use cases, degenerate issues that may occur, optimizations, durability, reliability, esp for the platform, so they're going to think about stuff like deadlocks and livelocks and whatever occurrences you may get from fork()ing something or which sorting algorithm would be more appropriate for the type and size of data it's performing on or how to minimize recursion so you don't create really bad overruns that may lead to unfortunate bugs or memory errors, and they're really mathematical about itsnk is full of the first kind of people
Literally not a single videogame developer actually sits down and thinks about optimizing their code based on hardware architecture when they're implementing Mai's titty jiggle physics.Drawing k-maps? Are you out of you mind?
>>564964949>Proof is in all the fakers calling it their favorite game and fav roster, then turning around saying none of the COTW base roster appealed to them.It’s crazy how they didn’t even feign any interest in cotw, they completely ignored it. Which proves that motw was never great or had any genuine fans, unlike kof.
>>564971002>Literally not a single videogame developer actually sits down and thinks about optimizing their code based on hardware architecturewhy do you always go for the literal, are you korean>Drawing k-mapsyou know what i'm talking about tho?>when they're implementing Mai's titty jiggle physicswhatever is left of that anyway
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>>564974693It’s not just the boobs, the face is different too. In the animation she looks really beautiful and feminine , but in the model her face looks kinda flat.
>>564974693hold on hold on hold on, lemme do an snk mark impression in response to this post>Coomers aren't people, Blue Mary looks fine in the game, he clearly doesn't play and just wants to jack off
Why doesn't SNK put the arranged soundtracks in their games anymore? Did they not fully own them, and lost the rights to them or something like that? They aren't even on their YouTube channel, so I'm guessing so. Why don't they use their newly-acquired Saudi money to buy them back?
>>564945697They don't need to do anything, the game's already fucked. If they WANT more attention on the game, either make better new characters or reuse the good ones you already have. Characters like Xiangfei or Tsugumi aren't going to change CotW and we're already getting Duck King, Alfred and Rick so it's not like the game is shaming its roots as Fatal Fury. I've also thought about what other KOF male characters would even fit in FF's world without being too distracting but it's honestly not too many, most male OCs in KOF are too lore heavy to fit in compared to the arbitrary female characters they make from time-to-time. At best it's like, Benimaru, Daimon, XIII Iori, Seth or anyone relating to Kim like Choi, Chang and Gang-Il. Chang could be fun, I guessBut yeah anything more than just "another Asian girl" would probably be more interesting to people unless you went for a super quirky character like Hinako, which people would like more than Tsugumi or Xiangfei. Otherwise I think dusting off Alice is the only option, and even that's just another blonde
gothy subtype is low hanging fruit but somehow works
>>564983763You could always work in some AoF characters into the mix. I know people were already speculating Ryo, Yuri and Rob but beyond just Kasumi a lot of these guys haven't seen a game in ages
ATHENAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
KOF heights are quite weird. Like Chizuru should be as tall as Kula (169cm)
>>564928737>Shermie is okay but Angel isn't, despite the former being heavier involved in the lore>goes out of his way to ignore May Lee and Luong who are tied to FF character, as well as Mian and Zarina who could easily fit with the cast and look and feel fairly uniqueGotchu, pal. Gonna tell the team to add Malin, Lien and Nagase.
>>564983763>XIII IoriFreeman is already there
sex with ryo
>>564983763>guy complains about game>main gripe no KOF charactersEvery single time.
>>564987558The japanese just use that as flavor text, most characters are deigned for whatever the appropriate mood is.
>>564990617I mean I'd sooner take a KOF character over fucking Soccerman and DJwhovegivesafuck.
>>564990487Kasumi...
Had both PS5 and PS4 versions since launch. Apart from motion blur and light bloom absent on the PS4, here the differences:Rock's Stage>No King on PS4Terry's Stage>No leaves on the trees. No motion blur on background. No train passes by.Gato's stage>No falling leavesHotaru's stage>No air balloon, fewer NPCs.Marco's stage>way fewer NPCs. Ones on upper floors do not move at allJenet stage>better overall lighting somehow.Tizoc's stage>same as above, might be the bloom effectKevin's stage>no ostrich chase scene, few NPCs, no shadows on NPCs.Hokutomaru's stageSame with the shadows again.Kain's stageNo difference, apart from lighting effects light up ground more.Vox's stage>more heat effectsPreecha's stage>Astronauts and robots aren't there or aren't as many. Definitely no robots. Screen at side are slightly differentBilly's stage>no differencesMai's stage>guy doesn't stand on his boatGeese's stages>slightly different color scheme. No reflective wood on PS4Ganucci's stage>very interesting. NPCs weren't there for PS4 at launch. They patched them in later.Ken's stage>No snow storm effect. No falling snow.Mr Big's stage>No moths around the lamps.Jae's stage>Static lantern shadows. They're real-time on PS5.SF Basketball stage>Shit ton. NPCs do not follow the action or react to the fight. No cars going by. NPCs don't have the shadowing.Mary's stage>No sun rays shining through windows on the left. No real-time lighting with it, either. Gold lamps and chandeliers don't look as vibrant due to this.Krauser's stage>haven't noticed anythingSubway station>haven't noticed anything. Surprisingly, NPCs have shadows on PS4 versionTraining stage>huge difference. no misty blue light shining through windows. Strange, because that exact effect is in Rock's stage, which is much more complex.Oh, and the PS4 version used to have very bad pop in on the character select and versus screen. They fixed in the last patch
>>564991581Good thing it's not a zero sum situation. Shitty Ronaldo was getting in either way.
>>564991581>SoccermanI don't like it being a real life celeb specifically, but I like the idea of a character like that and function behind him.
>>564996303So play Rival Schools
>>564996457Yeah, Roberto is the GOAT, love that "team" in general.
Neowave is a weird game
>>564986902That's already what they're doing with Mr. Big, Ryo and Kasumi. It's neat that they're finally trying to combine the series naturally instead of how they handled it with KOF. But also it makes AOF kind of something nobody really wants>>564989741I unironically forgot about Kim's entourage my first post because they're a little underwhelming. May Lee should show up in a KOF again before Fatal Fury, and Luong could solve a lot of the lack of variety problems in CotW. Originally when I thought CotW was going to have more KOF expats I figured she was a lock in along with Mary, but I'm glad they are trying to make the roster unique. It's just not enough, I think is the problemMian should come back to KOF first too, but Zarina wouldn't be too out of place, maybe even as a student of Bob>>564989913That's part of the reason I don't really see it happening, it's too many hoops to throw a version of a character nobody really cares for>>564990617Sorry SNK hasn't made actually good new Fatal Fury characters
>>565001760>Sorry SNK hasn't made actually good new Fatal Fury charactersFranz will be the first one
>>565002421We already saw how he looks like. His design is normal and not special at all. It all depends now on his personality to make up for it.
>>564999705It's pretty cool.Kinda like 2002 with Power Instinct-like character art, new backgrounds and music as well as roster improvements (though 02 PS2 port brought some too). However the main highlight is definitely the 3 different styles.
>>565001760>But also it makes AOF kind of something nobody really wantsIf AOF4 will still be a prequel to Fatal Fury it will have some trouble setting up a proper conflict because what big bads are there left to use now that Mr. Big is already in Fatal Fury?
>>565002747His design is normal and not special, but it doesn't matter because it is a popular design. It's not unlike Hein being a classic sadistic butler #9999, yet still managing to get a dedicated following.A lot of people are suckers for archetypes rather than personality.
>>565002421>>565002747>>565004016They should've had Franz be base game over any of the collabs if they had fate in him. He should've been a final boss alongside Fallen Rock just to give people a more normal antagonist to fight, and make the build up to Krauser much more interesting than just randomly fucking dropping him a year later with zero intent. It makes CotW look aimless to just introduce these concepts after the fact, trying to fix problems it ended up causing by not having an idea of how a sequel should operate>>565003664That's an issue it already dug itself in because AOF set itself up as Geese's rise of power. Both Big and Geese are in CotW, so the only antagonist left is Wyler, who would need a lot of fleshing out to be anything other than a bump in the road for Robert. Because AOF's cast doesn't really matter in the long run. It was a story focused on the Kyokugen fighters, and Kyokugen is already represented in CotW. Anyone that existed was as an obstacle for Ryo and Robert to overcome, so that's why it should stray away from being ANOTHER fucking fighting game altogetherKOF was supposed to be the crossover that put the Kyokugens with Fatal Fury without compromising lore. CotW does commit to the lore, so it's not out of place until they make Kasumi and Yuri look 20 years old when they're supposed to be 40
>>565002882It's certainly interesting. Back in the 2000s me and a buddy modded a ps2 in order to play it and guilty gear.
>>565004016The picture you posted is proof of why his design falls apart, and it's telling that you can't tell why. Let's use a LoGH character too. in comparison to Treize and Reuenthal, Franz doesn't look original, more of a copy like someone was following a guide on how to make an aristocrat anime character.Go to any person on the street and present him the three examples, I guarantee nearly all will pick those two over Franz.
>>565004501>They should've had Franz be base game over any of the collabs if they had fate in him. He should've been a final boss alongside Fallen RockFranz as a boss would've been 100% cooler, but in truth it's obvious that Franz was never planned, and Stroheim only referred to Krauser proven by the datamines of his voice lines being in base game before season 2.. Krauser was supposed to be the final boss, but they decided to make him dlc but not sure of that.Franz was only made when they saw the criticism of how the game lacked villains, and Krauser was too old to be Rock's rival and is more tied to Terry.
>>565006687Yeah it's obvious they made this shit up as they went along which is unfortunate because it just means the game REALLY needed more time to cook than to be rushed out last year just to have a new game for the sake of having a new game. Franz doesn't really even seem to come across as a genuine villain, either. He's just an excuse to set up Krauser, who genuinely comes out of nowhere as this story is concernedIn fact, shouldn't have been a tournament to begin with. Every character has genuine motivation to be around to begin with outside of wanting to be the very best like no one ever was. In fact some characters don't even give a shit about the tournament like all the female characters anyway. It's somehow more confused than KOFXV, which wasn't an amazing story either
>>565004501I think from their perspective, the signature of AoF will be forever as the prequel where Geese is still alive. it's why they brought back Krauser for FF.I still think it's stupid, because people like new things, your characters aren't brands like Mario and Zelda, where Nintendo can shove them in anything and they sell.AoF should be rebooted to be its own world, or integrated into another series.
>>565007172>Yeah it's obvious they made this shit up as they went alongI still respect the fact that they listened to even niche complaints like the story though, barely any company does this.>In fact, shouldn't have been a tournament to begin with. Every character has genuine motivation to be around to begin with outside of wanting to be the very best like no one ever was. In fact some characters don't even give a shit about the tournament like all the female characters anyway. It's somehow more confused than KOFXVYes they have no motives at all to participate, and their personalities don't even make sense for a tournament. It's why shit like the World Grapple Tournament in Buriki One where various martial artists compete to prove their style is the strongest was more captivating and made sense and less confusing. People like that shit way more.
>>565003664Why do you need "big bads" to use in the first place? You finally have a series with no threads that need to be resolved. Just make a new one.But fine, if you insist, let's remember what was the original plan for AoF continuation back before SNK's bankrupcy. A story about ninja clans. Not surprising considering that Eiji and JIN! FU! HA! were standout characters from the series and it's a great opportunity to bring in Shiranui and Hattori clans as well, perhaps Kazama too (no, not that one, the one from SamSho). One of the routes they could take is to explore the origins of Jaguar gang and Jyazu. Another one is to explore the incident where Jeff and Mai's grandpa fought Krauser. Third, make something new up.
When Kruaser spoke about how he wants to conquer and rule south town using physical strength, in such a comical way as if it was medieval principality, not a metropolis the likes of Florida set in the modern age, it came off completely tone deaf.
>>565007351Or... Get this... They have KOF where everyone is the brand version of their character and represent the iconography of their series. If anything it's proof they need more KOF spinoffs to try and establish their "Heroes" as actual, focal protagonists of their own story and not need Kyo or Terry to share the spotlight with, causing these diminishing returns of telling stories where things are degraded to the point where nothing but the face remains>>565007886It's part of why CotW had such a confused identity for a year because we're stuck with a bunch of uncharismatic functions because CotW is a direct sequel to a game that had a completely different story to tell get cut short. The "tournament" set up already happened, there was no reason to host another one let alone exclusively in South Town. It's just wheel spinning, which makes no sense for a game that was billed to be the conclusion to the story>>565008164Because antagonists drive plots, usually. Most tournament hosts in fighting games tend to be using them for nefarious purposes. Not all the time, like with Chizuru, the Bernstein children or Antonov, but most of the time that's just their generic go-to excuse. The original AOF actually doesn't have a tournament, it has antagonists for a much more important reason (Yuri was kidnapped) so it makes for a MUCH more engaging story than what AOF2 ended up doing. Fatal Fury 3 is somehow the only Fatal Fury game where the antagonists aren't hosting a tournament for some fucking reasonOtherwise if there's no antagonist the conflict becomes Coffee Shop AUs like Strive>>565008407The only thing comical is it's obvious nothing is going to come of it. Unless he was like killed off or jailed or something, it's just empty boasts
>>565008164>Why do you need "big bads" to use in the first place? You finally have a series with no threads that need to be resolvedIf there's no story to tell then why are you making a game at all. Christ you're dumb.
>>565006190Again, it doesn't fall apart, it being recognizable is what activates the neurons in the first place. You can call it lazy or cheating, but it still works.Also, I'd say that Franz is more bishounen than either and there is market for that too. But even regardless of that Franz's design isn't competing against Treize and Reuenthal, its competing against other CotW characters.If you take three CotW characters including Franz and show them to someone who isn't into the game, but likes Wing and LoGH, there is a higher chance that they'd pick Franz over most of them.
>>565008659>Or... Get this... They have KOF where everyone is the brand version of their character and represent the iconography of their series. If anything it's proof they need more KOF spinoffs to try and establish their "Heroes" as actual, focal protagonists of their own story and not need Kyo or Terry to share the spotlight with, causing these diminishing returns of telling stories where things are degraded to the point where nothing but the face remainsof course there's no reason to make AoF nor FF even when you have KOF, every company only has one fighting game series, and a story as dimeless as cotw, can be told in arcade mode just fine. Nothing justifes a whole games when they have nothing to offer. Only exception is SamSho since not only is it set in a completely different world but is also 1v1, making the gameplay different from KOF.>The only thing comical is it's obvious nothing is going to come of it. Unless he was like killed off or jailed or something, it's just empty boastsit just didn't make sense, atleast Geese was supposed to be like a Mafia boss, and those things actually happened in reality, not some German wearing a knight's armor..
>>565006687SNK claims that Krauser was selected at August 2025, but that doesn't track with how he was in the datamine leak back in May (where he was said to be season 3, same with Franz).It's hard to tell what SNK were planning with him. He steals the scrolls from Rock off-screen, holds the tournament... yet doesn't appear in person and Billy steals the scrolls back - once again, off-screen - but they still follow the tournament template anyway?As for whether or not he was intended to be Krauser, I suppose it depends on how much SNK was going with the "Krauser commited sudoku when losing to Terry" concept.
>>565008659>>565008894Learn to understand context from the post you are replying to. But sure, I'll make the question easier to understand.Why the fuck do you need already existing "big bads", like Mr. Big and Geese? Just make a new story with new antagonists, like SNK did when they made AOF3. It's a ridiculous non-problem.
>>565009779They wouldn't have made Fatal Fury its own thing if they didn't boast about its story, but the fact they're unable to tell one or use the medium to tell one any better than what's been done in the last 20 years really shows how small their perspective is. They decided to turn Fatal Fury into their "mainstream" fighter when they already had one. So now their only hope is to keep pumping content into CotW in hopes it'll eventually be worth it>it just didn't make sense, atleast Geese was supposed to be like a Mafia boss, and those things actually happened in reality, not some German wearing a knight's armor..Now you see the fucking problem with Fatal Fury 2's plot trying to rip off SFII. If it wasn't for Obari, Krauser wouldn't have been in this game because he was a flop of a character even back then. Krauser was always like this, it was Obari that added the "he's Geese's younger brother and is strong enough to beat Terry" plot that makes him a genuinely compelling character. Now they just brought him back as a remix antagonist because they committed to Geese being dead. So the Emperor of Darkness is now the game's filler arc since all of the plot threads from MotW have been solvedBesides they already committed to Krauser's lineage being secretly Chinese this whole time so if they don't push SOMETHING this game wouldn't really have much of a true identity
>>565008407>in such a comical way as if it was medieval principalityBecause he's raw as fuck and he can speak as he wishes. Next question.
>>565001760>Sorry SNK hasn't made actually good new Fatal Fury charactersIDGAF. Keep KOF in KOF.
>>565006190I never realized that character archetypes can't be used after they're done the first time.
>>565010812Yeah but Fatal Fury gets to slather its dick in KOF as much as it wants while also getting a bunch of dogshit celebrity collabs because apparently it's totally necessary to get people to play the gameMeanwhile Chun-Li couldn't even get the player count up to the same amount as Krauser, of all characters. Be creative with what you own, not what you think you need
AoF reboot:>Gai Tendo as protagonist>since his fighting style Total Combat is based on Mixed Martial Arts, his goal will be to learn different styles and incorporates them into his own>story starts with him kicking the doors of Ryo's dojo to learn about the mysterious Kyokugenryu Karate>The tournament running will host various fighters all representing their own schools>Gai ends up winning and develops the ultimate hybrid Martial Art, called... Art of Fighintg.>you can go anywhere from here
All of this mental gymnastic just to justify a new Buriki One. Just say you want it man
>>565009779>of course there's no reason to make AoF nor FF even when you have KOF, every company only has one fighting game series, and a story as dimeless as cotw, can be told in arcade mode just fine. Fatal Fury has potential to fill a "single-character" fighter niche in a way that KOF (Does anyone really play single character mode in KOF?) and Samsho (weapon fighter with a focus on spacing and punishing mistakes) don't. Namco had Soul Calibur along with Tekken and Capcom had the vs games as well as Street Fighter (along with a bunch of other niche or one-off titles, but those two are the ones they put focus on).But SNK did the opposite of Capcom in that they didn't gauge interest in the Fatal Fury brand (which itself was extremely dormant beyond the Fatal Fury main characters and MotW popular characters showing up in KOF) at a time where SNK themselves aren't as relevant in the fighting game as they used to be.
>>565011012>I never realized that character archetypes can't be used after they're done the first time.retard, I cited two examples from two different anime, that wasn't my point. the point is how to make your character not just an archetype, but more like those two.
>>565011531Buriki one on it's own won't hold, same as AoF on it's own, I just thought of a way to mix the two and give the ip it's own identity, since the characters have been playable in kof for ages.
>>565011973We don't even know anything about Franz
>>565011403Gai's spiritual journey to be the best, will feel like Vagabond's Musashi.
>>565011292>Yeah but Fatal Fury gets to slather its dick in KOF as much as it wants while also getting a bunch of dogshit celebrity collabs because apparently it's totally necessary to get people to play the gameKOF always had a weird relation with Fatal Fury. The name and concept both came from Fatal Fury ("King of Fighters" is the name of the tournaments Geese holds and Krauser already took it global, Rugal just added a 3v3 element) and it was initially more or less a vehicle for the Fatal Fury cast to fight the AoF cast in their prime (with Psycho Soldier and Ikari Warriors on the side - before the original elements took over. And it doesn't help that Fatal Fury went dormant after the Mark of the Wolves.
>>565011403Broo that's crazy, SNK stole Luke from Street Fighter!Buriki One characters are too grounded for wacky South Town adventures.
>>565012968I get the meme but I don't think they look similar at all, and Luke isn't even that popular.>Buriki One characters are too grounded for wacky South Town adventures.it's about Gai, you don't need the others. Though I think Saionji, Seo, and Silber are cool and can be incorporated too.
>>565011403Absolute cinema.
>>565011292>Meanwhile Chun-Li couldn't even get the player count up to the same amount as Krauser, of all characters.Which really goes to show that SNK genuinely doesn’t understand that they have appealing characters that have been on the backburner for decades
What's the deal with the AES+ having really high preorders? Is the retro game market that fucking dire?
>>565014110possibly scalpers
>>565013724You'd have to remake everyone movesets to behave like regular fighting game character either way. They'll be similar enough when Gai will get the projectile.
Many people mock Ryo as a Ken knock off, all popularized by Dan Hibiki, so SNK is aware of it and creating a new protagonist, could very well be true and a safe bet.
>>565014493It's 100% scalpers, yeah.
>>565017191Fuck off you retard
>>565017289Don't be mad, schizo-kun. Cotw still has two more seasons. There's still a chance for your never ever waifu Tsugumi.
>>565011403>Gai ends up winning and develops the ultimate hybrid Martial Art, called... Art of Fighintg.
>>565017191>otherwise Oda would deeply regret not adding Tsugumi to Cotw.how many of me are there that i'm apparently tied to tsugumi now
>>565018160You and +2. Total 3. Just like Chonshu fans. Only 3.
>>565017191that's you isn't it
>>565018380>+2what a bargain
>>565018390You wish but it's this one >>564928737And this one from previous >>564647404 but It was deleted
>>564987227>Kensou:ATHENAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!>Kensou (Saigado)*unzip*
>>564899778Another humiliation ritual
>>565020447Genuinely what the fuck were they thinking with this ad
Anyone know how he's doing the first combo in this video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKX4RK23oY8I'm only +6 after the ex dunk > ex shippuken and farB is 7 frames so I can't get it to connect. How is he getting that 1 extra frame? Delaying it only makes the frame advantage worse and trying to add more normals before pushes you too far for the dunk to connect
>>565020447>couldn't even make it competitive>just doesn't sell anything at all and completely buries him as a no-name jobber
>>565020447If I didn't already think snk were braindead retarded after what they did with samsho this probably would've been the 2nd or 3rd thing in the past decade to push me into thinking so.
>>564999705It feels like a Mugen hack
>>564972232That's not quite what happened. While some did swear off the game from appearance/graphics alone, MotW fans did give CotW a fair chance: while most went back to solely playing MotW, they accepted that CotW was its own, different game.
>>565037328me in air
I’m reminded that fgbg.art just one day vanished, now I don’t know where people find all the fighting game stage backgrounds
>Cruelest and most evil character in Samurai Shodown>ChristianWhat did SNK mean by this?
A SHRINE MAIDEN JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE
>>565040395Makai Tensho
>>565043002i remember the days when there used to be crazy amounts of touhou and snk art. what was that all about?
are they really trying to revive kof mira? would suck on oda's micro dick for the rest of my life if truehttps://x.com/SNK_recruit/status/2048674202094624952
>>565050641i don't want a job, but i'll gladly offer free consult from home, and that's itthat's the only way i know i won't pull my hair around working with dense people
>>565051095and i don't mean like what this guy is offering apparently https://x.com/TerrenceWatson/status/2048756173797523587
>>565050641I do not and never have much cared for Maximum Impact.
a photorealistic mira could beat the upcoming doa reboot and compete with pakken
Test
do not slash nvidia tech
>>565052860Stop the presses!
>>565054124>gaytreonfaggotnah this aint it
The death of kensou.Amen.https://x.com/snkpofficial_jp/status/2028637412885467496?s=46
>>565058627funny that it's merch for kof and not their current game
>>565058627>It's realCucksou eternally BTFO AHAHAHAAHAHA
>>565059096Mister and Miss SNK are just good friends
>>565058627BODY GA!
>>565054124>this illustyou cant compete puppygang
>>564783927>>565062990>>SNK trailer>>Krauser stomping everyone>>Carrying Terry's corpse, along with other bodies>>"Only a demon is fit to rule South Town">>...Suddenly laser beam out of nowhere>>Camera pans to the source>>"This city has no place for demons"INGRID mogs So-so no Frieren anyday.
Is Chunners gay? ie. a lesbo
DaigoTheBeasthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0wo-dA1mas
Giga Dick Cyclonehttps://youtu.be/kHksE6h0eC8?t=826
No more Samurai Showdown?
>>565066204It's funny because, after so many anime collabs in Kofas, if the game were active today, Frieren could have become a reality.
>>565066204>only good SF characters are SNK rejects (Juri, C.Viper, Ingrid) Grim.
>>565011292>Yeah but Fatal Fury gets toBecause KOF is a crossover game.
*saves the company*
>>565073583That's not Cham-Cham.
>>565073583But enough about Momoko.
>>565077084>Some based snk dev spent a week making this sprite, even knowing it wouldn't be in the gameI hope he's doing well today. In fact, I hope he takes Oda's place in the future.Wait, did I say future? I mean NOW!
>>565066521She is, and a lolicon to boot. You didn't see the way she looks at Hotaru?
>>565086913imagine if she saw photorealistic akari then
>>565066204That is a stupid hat
>>565087616
THE FINAL BATTLEGEESE HOWARD MUST GO
Who must go?
So umm what are the steps for someone new to Fatal Fury that I should go through first cause I'm sure the skill ceiling is pretty high
Can anyone else corroborate the addition of 12 new character IDs? The Reddit post and the previous thread here are the only two places I can find, it and the same person might have posted it both times
Incoming.
>>565093109>20 dollars neo geo romWhy are they like this
>>565093519Did the Samsho collection underperform or something?Actually, are these native ports or just some fuckery with the NeoGeo code?
>>565094029These collections always underperform. They always have too high expectations and too little promotion. I suspect they only put them out so they can point at an intentional failure and say SEE
>>565094029RBFF2 and Kizuna Encounter?Emulation with a bunch of game specific stuff injected in, of course. That's what makes rollback implementation relatively easy.
hi
>>565058627What did SNK mean by this?
>>565070536Clearly so is Fatal Fury, now
>>565094029>>565099676>Badly done rollback >Developed by Digital Eclipse, the same one that just released the disastrous MK Kollection. >First released on Epic Games StoreI feel bad for Samsho 5 Perfect. I hope it somehow gets to Fightcade...
>>565103437>>565059601
Going through the tutorial and man there is a lot to learn.
https://eventhubs.com/news/2026/apr/27/krauser-interview-fatal-fury-crouch/>KozPlayer: Are we going to learn more about Geese and Krauser's connection as brothers or to the Jins?>Konya: I can't say too much right now, but the story of Fallen Rock and the Sacred Scrolls of Jin is planned to be continued. Please look forward to future developments.So it seems more story expansions are planned/in the worksAnd the game director claims that only in august of the past year they decided to add Krauser as DLC>KozPlayer: Why did you choose to bring Krauser back to Fatal Fury now, and when was that decided?>Konya: I believe we decided around August of last year. We had finalized our plans to release DLC characters on a monthly basis, and while we were selecting the characters to fit that schedule, we decided that we wanted to include a boss character from the Fatal Fury series.Not much more interesting in this interview.
>>565110505I'll say I like what they did with the story. Seems like they took the criticism of the base game being toothless and actually made an interesting conflict. Krauser got some justice done for his reintroduction, so I guess I won't worry so much on them fumbling the kof villains like Rugal.
>>565104720>no crossover characters on the base roster.I see what you're saying, but no. The crossover characters are all DLC. With KOF, it is the entire point, from base roster onwards. Just keep KOF out.
>>565093519This. I'm not fucking paying for that. They need to make a real collection with no lag, and multiple versions of a franchise, with extras, console and arcade versions. I'd pay full price for that.
>>565091781Play it like Street Fighter (not 6, not 5, REAL Street Fighter) or pre-2002 KOF, then adapt from there. People shit on this, but if you have no one to play with at your level, play the CPU. The first thing anyone should be able to do is pull off anything you want in the heat of battle. Training mode and labbing only gets you so far if you can't hit a moving target that hits back. Everyone back in the harder era started out playing the CPU as well as people,
>>565118526>All DLCAnon, I...
>>565119295KOF XV feels easier to learn than Fatal Fury COTW. Idk man
SHERMIE from temu
>>565104720Because modern fighting games have normalized having guest stars. SNK seems to be going the Netherrealm route, but you get the point.King of Fighters started as a vehicle for the Art of Fighting and Fatal Fury characters to fight each other, with reimagined versions of Psycho Soldier and Ikari Warriors in the mix. It kind of grew into its own thing, but the Fatal Fury elements never truly went away either, between South Town getting bombarded from orbit or Geese outliving his Fatal Fury counterpart.
>>565125897It only became its own thing because it became the only other game outside of SamSho to get new games after the year 1999. They would've done this to KOF if Oda wasn't adamant about getting specifically Fatal Fury made. If it were just the Street Fighter characters, I wouldn't really be harping on it, but the Saudi collabs and now Kenshiro have done a lot more to basically show that there is no such thing as "integrity" that this thread seems to believe there is as long as they think it's worth it, financially. But Fatal Fury isn't Street Fighter or Mortal Kombat. It has no justification for these collabs because nobody is going to be playing this game for them. They're just sort of failed examples of SNK being unable to replicate their contemporaries' successesYou drop any of these DLC characters into XV and I think people would be complaining less because crossover stuff is a part of KOF's DNA. You drop KOF characters into FF and people would complain less than Salvatore Ganacci because it's still an SNK character at the end of the day. The failure of presentation goes beyond the game looking bad or having ads in places that nobody would be interested in, it's like they misunderstand how to even present their games to people to begin with
Where was this energy when Warden and chink gacha slut dropped in SamSho?
>>565129664They weren't in launch or S1, but by that point SamSho had already permanently fucked up its reputation
>>565129664Fucking thank you lol. These dudes are being weird as fuck. >Why not kof? Why didn't they kof? Why not add more kof? Shoulda been in kof!
>>565122967Which kof and what's harder in cotw?
>>565122967>XVDidn't read it properly. What do you find difficult in ff?
>>565129664All that proves is that Oda is responsible for the retarded guests plaguing these games
>>565130819What reputation? EGS exclusivity shit and bad netcode aside, it is often cited as one of the best SamSho games. You can try pointing at player numbers, but I doubt it would've been much higher even if it did everything perfectly.
>>565131435Counterpoint: that also means that he's responsible for Skullomania in SNK Heroines and it was kino.
>>565132504>Ignore the reasons why it floppedIt's shit like that which is why SNK digs themselves these holes to begin with. If you keep floundering your first impression, nobody's going to pick up your game>XII-XIII controversy>XIV's graphics>SamSho's EGS exclusivity and bad netcode>KOFXV's broken netcode and lack of effort in presentation>CotW's controversial guests and lack of effort in presentationFighting games get their highest player counts on launch. If the game has bad word of mouth, it's basically dead for the rest of its lifespan. Any updates will only encourage previous players to return to the game and a handful of new players to try it out, but once that honeymoon phase is over then it's back to same player counts. SNK NEEDS to not fuck a game up on release so that people can actually trust them. Fixing their games 1-2 years after the fact just makes people legitimately less interested
>>565133151Okay, let's say SamSho released on Steam, had rollback netcode and even crossplay. How much higher would the player count be?Surely with everything going right it would shoot straight past the likes of SFV on launch, MK1, SC6 or at least MvCI and DOA6?
>>565134267It would still also need relevant post-launch support (which it got) and frequent representation in tournaments (which it was going to, but was barred due to the dogshit online)But those are modest numbers it would've achieved and would've led to much more interest in KOFXV/CotW if they didn't bungle shit because there would be better reason to trust SNK with releases, building up to greater successes instead of constantly needing to start from scratch with each release. It's not like Xrd had Strive numbers, it took several attempts and a truly decent launch after their most mainstream hit (DBFZ) to get to where they are now, which is still a fraction of SF6, the only game this generation that even attempted to redefine fighting games for better and worseShit if T8 didn't have terrible post-launch support, I figure it would've likely beaten SF6 by now but that's what content does to a developer. They have no reason to try to do better if they think what they have now is enough
Lucky Ralf
>>565133151There's always something wrong with their launches lol. So sad, it's funny.
>>565135505^Nothing, but truth
Well, I finally tried out Smart mode over the long weekend and... I think it's still far from fixed. My hype has gone down.I find it very complicated to rely on pressing REV and Special simultaneously to get the hard version of the special. Ironically, it's harder to connect specials in Smart mode than in Arcade mode, which is the exact opposite of what it should be.Also, some of the most essential specials for each character are still missing from Smart mode, making them weaker and more predictable. I also can't find any pressure routes or blockstrings that are actually effective more than once.Oh well. I guess I'll have to keep playing the normal way.
>>565136035Do you think Heidern approved his adopted daughter dating the retarded coronel under his orders?
>>565118526>The crossover characters are all DLCweren't people here all up in my face like "these s1 characters are actually base roster so that means cotw has more base characters than sfdix!!!"now you can't or don't want to even claim that
even things like speaki and doro have more clout than snk lol
>>565136035Chang
Remember when Oda said shit like Ronaldo being in COTW was to help it become the number #1 Fighting Game? Did he and SNK really think Football-man would have made COTW compete with/do as well as this? Though the real reason was probably just that the Brown oil-man told them to.
>>565169069i would like to hope he wasn't really that retarded and that it was someone else's idea for him to say thatbut he does come off as someone that out of touch
where the fuck is he?
>>565103437It shows SNK really respects Kyo and Athena as a real couple compared to Kensou.
>>565166630
>>565176361he is but fat to be cut, so that with a hat we can strut
>>565152915Well, he'll need to consent sooner or later, because at some point Leona will become curious and interested in SEXO. But since she's kinda autistic, she'll ask someone she trusts. That's where Ralf comes in (heh). Summary: Ralf wins. It's inevitable.
We clearly won't see Ronaldo again, but it'll be shame to lose his interesting play style. SNK should just bring Zarina back and give her Ronaldo's move set.
>>565157459Japs suck at marketing. They're stubborn and stupidDoro was naturally viral but there is a new meta where people are paid to create videos for Gugugaga, speaki or Phoebe chuupi
>>565178665Why Zarina? It doesn't make sense. It's better to create a new character that's from Super Side Kicks.
>>565179125>Japs suck at marketing.>Capcom selling billions
>>565156727Because the SNK cocksuckers were lying to make themselves feel better. S1 DLC isn't free anymore. People have to buy it, so it was never base roster.
>>565183190Isn't it american?
>>565182401Based. One of the best SNK games.
>>565178565But doesn’t he have like twice her age? She could be his daughter
The EVO legends stage have been preparing for 40 minutes already.So this Laggia vs Go1 is starting or not...
>>565184475Yes. and?
>>565182297Team Booba Mai is fraud
Laggia is SHOOKED
It's over for Go1.
GO1 won 6-7 style.
Next time fags when you’re watching a stream and reacting to it, post the link atleast
Oh, no. Poor, Daigo. It's better to move on to a better game like Cotw, bro.
>daigo: nah i'd rather retire than play an snk game lol
Bum ass Blanka level two is hilarious. Daigo won almost every single round 1 and then Blanka level two went live and Mena proceeded to steam roll with his built in fullscreen neutral skip/mixup/frame trap ball
>>565152915>>565178565>>565184475>>565186292oh no ur not
>>565202775All of the Japanese “five gods”, don’t play snk games at all, except one and only samsho. Snk isn’t popular in japan except for samsho, and they keep neglecting it:
I want SamuSpi animated series based on the 3~4but not and NEVER from the current nu-ShitNK
Duck King + Chrishttps://youtube.com/watch?v=r3uU7kmWU88
>Luve posting a SF6 tournament in a fuxking snk generalYou should kill yourself
>>565207419Haitani and Tokido grinded lots of kof XIII as fast I can remember.China is the heart of KOF but it doesn't mean Japan didn't care for SNK. Those events of the 00s like Arcadia shows Japan loved the games and it had a big scene.
>>565209481>China is the heart of KOFAnd despite that, they were completely ignored in favor of marketing cotw towards americans. Oda indeed is still living in the 80s, he thinks that impressing americans as a japanese is some achievement. Every major gaming company is trying to establish a base in china, he's completely clueless.
>>565207419This is the "FGC" for you. That's why talking about "community" as if it were a single thing is bulllshit. We have many communities, but one of them is large and powerful, more so than any other, and so this same community speaks as if everyone is welcome and everything is one thing, but in the end they only act in the best interests of their own community. And finally, when a promising fighting game appears, the influencers create an excuse not to play it or to boycott it. Like a mafia, but gay.
>>565214452Is that the fabled ninja dagger?
>>565202775Daigo is a Capcom employee. You gotta know this by now. And even if he wasn't, let's face it: try to remove the retarded parts from Nu SNK games, and you get several pick-up trucks worth of Mexicans crying>"so you just want them to copy Capcom? so you just wanna be Capcom?!"All while the games they turn around and defend it when Nu SNK copies the worst parts of Capcom fighters anyway. That's fine, though. Buncha morons.
>>565210858We have to separate SNK's marketing department from whatever 3rd party Saudi marketing company that was responsible for that debacle. But it was definitely a misstep not to leverage the existing Garou/MotW community in China -- small as it is -- just as was done initially in America to advertise CotW.
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