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Best mage Himiko! I hope you all have a wonderful day! For those of you posting about how much you love your waifu or husbando I have a message for you They love you too

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Cheeky brats OP

A remake for either THH or V3 would be pointless desu
With GD it makes sense because people like it for the le wholesome characters and Nagito and the gameplay , not the Shark Jumping story

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We are living in the future
Things are getting better every day
They're also getting worse every day

>>564752197
A remake for GD is stupid because I want Danganronpa 4, not 2 pretending to be 4

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The new route being prequel could set up a new ground for development/build up that couldn't possibly happen in the original route, like Chiaki not realizing she's an AI and struggles to help her classmates without any knowledge of NWP and her role, or Twogami when he still fully takes Byakuya's persona like true Imposter before he decided to change and act on his own to take the role of responsible leader, or maybe even Nagito before he went all "cause despair to create greater hope" insane mumbo jumbo and was just a self-deprecating fanatic
The new route would progress along with their development into what they are in the original route

>>564753345
that would be extremely boring because we already know their end points

>>564752181
RAPE RAPE RAPE

The ‘big chapter 1 surprise’ will not be the murder, but something that shifts the whole setting and killing game dynamics into something very different from 2.

>>564753863
They're clearly both consenting, the one on the right will just be statutory

>>564754023
The big chapter 1 surprise will be something absolutely no one is expecting, aka Teruteru kills Imposter again.

>>564754023
komaeda dying would be a pretty big shift of dynamics

>>564753345
How can 2x2 be a prequel when the route split happens when they are already in the NWP? DR1, DR3 (Despair arc), and UDG already happened by the time 2x2's new route begins.

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>>564753637
Yes but how the development goes is what people eager to know, that's why backstories are popular and always in demand for popular characters
If you think that's bad then say that to every prequel ever

>>564754629
Can't they just ignore DR3 ?

>>564754742
Sadly no, DR3 is considered canon and very important to the story.

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>>564754629
It's possible that the original route isn't the first simulation run so despite new route have "something unexpected" that diverges from the original, it could be something that happened before the original i.e. the previous simulation run

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If they remake V3, should they change the ending?

>>564754691
>>564755027
You're jumping through a lot of hoops to justify this actual dogshit idea
Let it go brochacho

>>564755029
Duh, new set of survivors (except Himiko, she stays) and it's actually season 2,809
Of course this means that V3xV3 will be the 9th game to make the title work, meaning we have to wait on Danganronpas 5-8.

>>564755029
Yes. It should be revealed that Tsumugi was also a victim of the flashback light, and has no ties to Team Danganronpa.

>>564755029
I would prefer a whatif story where we see Tsumugi's script playing out

Not even as a full game

>>564755523
Like
If we are gonna be honest
The Gopher Project and Ultimate Hunt aren't really "worst" in concept than the Despair Remnants , it's just that the game actively bashes it using Kokichi as a proxy to call out it's fake melodrama

chiaki evil ai

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If they ever do a V3xV3 it should also include a V2 short game along side a new route. And in V2 you play as Rantaro and it's revealed that he survived by being a winning blackened. So we can finally see what happens when a blackened wins.

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The night was young, neon in my eyes.
With music in my breath, I chased butterflies.
Laughter and consolation, they became one.
Voices that will fade along with the morning sun.

Sitting on the sidelines, with no direction or plan.
Until she danced into my life, making me a complete man.
Leading our dance, she became the mistress of my steps,
And with every motion she made I forgot another one of my regrets.

My breath stopped short, but she flowed like a flame.
My eyes on her rhythm, inviting me to play her game.
My soul leapt out of my chest, I don't even know where it came,
It was this irresistible attraction, something I can't begging to name.

My Chiaki, your eyes shine brighter than any neon lights.
One look from you turns all my wrongs into rights.
I don't need any words, my whole being screams that it's true,
That on this night together... I want to lose myself in you.

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>>564755107
>dogshit
That's just you buddy
Besides your logic applies for asking new development too, since we already received the ultimate end points from DR3 anime that happened after DR2: Hajime is no longer Izuru, NWP is destroyed and Chiaki is gone forever
Going by that this new route shouldn't even be possible to happen

>>564755029
No. Double down on it and explicitly establish that 1 and 2 were always fictional and never happened in any canon. Don't leave any room for the interpretation that V3 is its own canon and that the Hope's Peak canon is its own thing. State explicitly that everything in 1, 2, UDG and 3 was all fiction, full stop.

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>>564753345
2x2 being a prequel + a reset of the NWP would be the only way we could explore things like a blackened getting away with murder.


>>564753637
All the other proposals always end up in the same place at chapter 6. The prequel is the only one that changes the ending other than changing the survivors.

>>564755959
kys rapefag

>>564702219
Off the top of my head
>Ulysses' fate is ableism and canon Danganronpa is more tasteful about chronic illness like Kaito and Nagito
>Native Americans have been tokenized and forced to be palatable through Wenona surviving and having a redemption arc
>Jett would have been written terribly because the main writer revealed herself to be racist with her handling of Desmond

Now the real question is
Who are the Adam and Eve in Tsumugi's Noah scenario

>>564756181
>since we already received the ultimate end points from DR3 anime that
No one gives a fuck about the DR3 anime. No one wants to see a bunch of characters act less developed than their previous selves and go nowhere. 2's cast does not need anything stripped from them. People want to see the characters of 2, as they are, survive where they died and evolve into new characters from their experiences. Not "haha this is Nagito before he was mean, isn't that silly? btw he's going to be mean lol, because you've already seen how this character plays out." A prequel is a dogshit idea for any Danganronpa except maybe V2 which would probably still be unsatisfying.

>>564756364
>All the other proposals always end up in the same place at chapter 6. The prequel is the only one that changes the ending other than changing the survivors.
There's other ways you can change chapter 6. They're separate scenarios, not a branching choice, so they can reveal that anything is happening, there's no need to adhere to the original story.

>>564756292
>State explicitly that everything in 1, 2, UDG and 3 was all fiction
But that's all what Tsumugi said? They never said anything about them exist in another timeline or anything.
It is just basic logic people come up with. Why would they want to throw away everything about the original DR storyline? Why would you even want V3 to debunk its existence so hard?

>>564756364
>a reset of the NWP would be the only way we could explore things like a blackened getting away with murder.
Who wants to explore such a boring end point? That and resetting the simulation just sounds like a giant waste of time.

>>564755959
Waiting for the other lolis

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>>564756917
>There's other ways you can change chapter 6.
Name three.

>>564757003
Calling something “boring” isn't an argument, you doofus. If you leave it up to subjectivity, I can find you hundreds of people who want that.

>>564756638
Me and her.

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i miss being in love ..

>>564757376
It is an argument because it's entirely subjectively interesting lmao
A Blackened winning and then there being no consequences is not something that needs to be explored, you can find thousands of people who don't want the story to be "and nothing mattered"

>>564756292
Thats not doubling down, thats just repeating what we all know

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>>564756768
>People want to see the characters of 2, as they are, survive where they died and evolve into new characters from their experiences.
Well unfortunately that's unlikely to happen, since I doubt they'd retcon a whole 2 seasons of anime as bad as it is. We've already seen their end points so there's no room for new development and they won't create a new retconned storyline from it either.
>but it's just an alternate route
Then the question goes back to why they didn't just remake DR1 like they originally planned in the first place, if they decided to retcon or make alternate timeline anyway.

>>564757376
>Name three.
-New simulation with other people trying to mimic the results of the original simulation
-Simulation running again, but without anyone in it - all the characters are just AI like Chiaki and don't have "real bodies" to return to
-TV series reboot of popular old season, recreating 2 but with real people and not a simulation

I'm sure there's plenty of other more interesting possibilities, but I'm not a writer. The point is that you can definitely come up with different end points.

>>564755959
>New route and V2
>And in V2 you play as Rantaro and it's revealed that he survived by being a winning blackened
That's pretty much the only way to do a winning blackened without it feeling like a weak ending. But if they went that way maybe the protagonist shouldn't be Rantaro so we don't see it coming.

>>564757218
Pick a loli.

>>564758020
Monaca

>>564756570
Also I think people are still up in arms about the kid getting executed.

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>>564757872
You're asking for new character developments yet the ideas you come up with basically boils down to "they are not real all along"
That's literally nothing matters

>>564757745
>Well unfortunately that's unlikely to happen, since I doubt they'd retcon a whole 2 seasons of anime as bad as it is. We've already seen their end points so there's no room for new development and they won't create a new retconned storyline from it either.
They're not gonna retcon anything, 2x2's nu-route is just going to be its own seperate story.
>Then the question goes back to why they didn't just remake DR1 like they originally planned in the first place, if they decided to retcon or make alternate timeline anyway.
An alternate timeline of a more popular game with a relatively self-contained endpoint with an anime no one has ever seen is much easier to justify than an alternate timeline of a game that would have wide impact on every entry in the series except maybe V3. They are not going to make it so that 2x2 can fit into canon, that's retarded.

>>564758302
>literally justifying Tsumugi's stance
retard
just because they're made in a lab doesn't mean they aren't as intelligent as real people and don't deserve to survive
quite literally, it matters

>>564758302
There's a reason I'm not the writer for the games. My point stands that you can absolutely change the outcome. I'm sure you can do ones that directly involve the other cast too, where alternative branches happen before the game starts.

I'd also disagree with your assertion that them not being real means that nothing matters, like V3's whole point is literally the opposite. The characters aren't some arbitrary collection of atoms, it's their personalities and memories that make them who they are - there's no reason to say that an AI version of Ibuki that remembers all her lived experiences and thinks and behaves the same of her is any less "Ibuki" than the real thing, or that you can't do any development with that character.

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I love my gorgeous wife!

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>>564751868

Happy Ougoku Saturday!

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>>564758190

>>564759083
>>564755959
ToT. And yes.

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>>564759083
>>564759174

>>564759337
puffy

>>564755959
>>564759083
>>564759337
Can we lynch rapefag now?

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This has to be the absolute worst trial system any fangan has ever fucking done.

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>>564757703
It’s interesting because we already have a base game that this one builds on. Let’s imagine that Chiaki kills someone in Chapter 5 for reasons such as ‘she couldn’t disobey her programming this time’ and received a direct order from the FF. The amount of character work you could built on that alone is huge. It’s an alternative take on a scenario we’re already familiar with. It’s literally the best chance to break the formula and have a plot twist that ties in with the original storyline. In fact, SDR2 is the only scenario that could pull something like this off. If you find that boring, sorry pal, but it's on you.

>>564757872
>New simulation with other people trying to mimic the results of the original simulation
If they’re actively trying to replicate the first simulation, then they’d effectively end up in the same place, except with a post-credits scene of people taking off their virtual reality headsets and patting each other on the back. M. Night Shyamalan ahh ending.
>Simulation running again, but without anyone in it - all the characters are just AI like Chiaki and don't have "real bodies" to return to
If it's running again, then as before, they end up in the same place in chapter 6 with just a different Twist. Might as well do a prequel instead.
>TV series reboot of popular old season, recreating 2 but with real people and not a simulation
...Bro, you get the point.

These all end in the same point with a surprise twist just after everything else occurred. That's kinda cheap.

>>564759560
He is a based nigger

>>564759337
Now I see why her special DVDs were so popular.

>>564758285
Specifically it’s the idea that a 14 year old girl was going to get a “romance” themed execution in a game where the executions supposedly ramp up in brutality over time

>>564760027
Only legal in japan

>>564760087
I mean, it's not like you have to make it weird? Just off the top of my head, it could be getting shot through the heart with an arrow, or pricked to death by poison rose bushes or something

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>>564758556
Copying V3 plot is very unlikely anyway, stupid even
Besides, trying to completely separate the new route from the canon timeline or even the same universe doesn't sound better than "regressing" the characters, which could also happen and justified in your case as simply new personalities for the characters

>>564759840
Your Chiaki boner is clouding your judgment. Objectively, she should be one of the first to die so we can actually get a new game, and if she survives, definitely not a repeat killer at all so we can get a new execution.
>Let’s imagine that Chiaki kills someone in Chapter 5 for reasons such as ‘she couldn’t disobey her programming this time’ and received a direct order from the FF. The amount of character work you could built on that alone is huge.
Like what? Tell me. Chiaki cries about killing her friends and goes "I NEED TO BRING THEM BACK WAAAHH" and that's it? If it's because she can't disobey her programming than that means everyone just forgives her.
>It’s an alternative take on a scenario we’re already familiar with. It’s literally the best chance to break the formula and have a plot twist that ties in with the original storyline.
It's not even an interesting plot twist. How would it even work out trial wise? You just do a bunch of shit and they hit you with "actually none of that mattered because you can't find out the killer anyway lol" and then what would Chapter 6 be? No one wants to see "everyone died but they get brought back no consequences lol".

There's legit zero arguments against Shuichi fucking Maki and Himiko that's not just "Threesomes are icky"

>>564759840
>These all end in the same point with a surprise twist just after everything else occurred. That's kinda cheap.
Ever played a Danganronpa game before? They all follow the same structure for 5 chapters before a late game reveal about the truth of their situation and then the characters win freedom. What you are complaining about here is not something new, you're just describing the series formula.

>>564759728
I haven’t gotten that far because the game completely froze trying to load the trial.

>>564755959
>>564759083
>>564759337
Hiyoko next?

>>564760435
This is why Rain Code was even created
So he could make a Killing Game where he doesn't have to follow the "le Epin twist" Formula that Junko created

>>564759728
They’d gone so long without using cards I’d honestly forgotten they were in the game and were supposedly a core element

>>564760359
>trying to completely separate the new route from the canon timeline or even the same universe doesn't sound better than "regressing" the characters
It sounds completely better because it would actually have stakes and we wouldn't know the end points of the characters lmao
Who the fuck wants a stakeless prequel, when instead we can have "the dead characters actually died this time"

>>564760439
>>564760616
They made this shit in Godot. It's clearly an early access release, they didn't playtest anything for shit. Why didn't they say it's an early access release? Because Fuck you.

Here is the fucking execution, since it's Godot I can extract everything in the pck file. https://files.catbox.moe/k5cjym.ogv They had the actual fucking balls to do Leon/Sayaka but worse. They kill the brother since he's a dick.

The whole game leaves me with a bad taste in my mouth at the moment.

>>564760334
We don’t know the details about the execution and probably never will so people are filling in the gaps with the worse shit they can imagine and assume she gets gang-raped so hard she’s disintegrated or whatever.

>>564760609
and Rain Code sucked
we don't talk about it for a reason

>>564760854
>and Rain Code sucked
incorrect.
>we don't talk about it for a reason
yeah, cause it says "danganronpa general" in the thread title.

>>564761013
Yet we talk about PEG
curious

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>>564760523

>>564761245
MY DICK

>>564761187
if you're arguing we don't talk about stuff that sucks, then PEG is probably not the best example

>>564760609
Rain code does have le ebin twist though, it’s main difference is not being in a death game setting.
I am having a hard time picturing a 2x2 ending having a point, though. I can only see it introducing completely new plot elements to the series to make a unique semi-self contained plot.

>>564759083
>>564759337
Since you did all the DR lolis you should try fangan ones like toshiko

>>564761245
I need Hiyoko's bratty ass in my face ASAP!

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>>564760620
Honestly, it's not that I disagree that new developments and stakes are definitely more interesting, but if that's the route they are taking they could've as well just make a brand new game with new characters instead of a remake
No offense but I think this argument boils down to "what the devs would logically do" vs "what narratively should happen"

>>564760653
Catbox is viewing the exported shit is a mp3 even though it plays normally, so I'm converting it to mp4. I could extract the sprites but they are stored as ctex which means reimporting into godot to export them as PNGs. If I want sound I have to import the original file into godot to reapply the sound, since they seperated the sound files from the videos to play on a separate track.

Link: https://files.catbox.moe/u88c8b.mp4

Since it's Godot, you can use GDRETools to decompile the exe and reimport everything where you have a 1 to 1 source of the source code. Too much effort to extract the sprites in high quality.

>>564761509
Toshiko is too obscure of a character for me to gen. I'm using the trial version of NAI so I don't have access to their character reference feature.

what would you make danganronpa 4, /drg/?

>>564750350
That sounds really boring.
>>564750046
Yes yes, you want to fuck Nagito
I would rather another character take up the rival role
And the only reason you're going to say that no one else could is because you.haven't bothered to think about the ways they could work as a rival
>>564751341
Hnnngh..! I want Nagito to go chapter 1, but you drive a really mean bargain. I suppose I'd be okay with him living a little longer if we can have the rug pull of Hajime dying first instead.
>>564751353
Yup, that's 100% happening if Chiaki is the MC

>>564761874
My femdom killing game fangan, of course!

>>564761810
I hate that cat's design so much.

Imagine they make the Chiaki in 2x2 somehow not an AI and then still kill her anyway

>>564762119
What were they thinking?

what if Rantaro gets off the boat and ends up as the only survivor and Imposter is revealed to be Tsumugi and the mastermind?

Does Kumitantei have a roadmap for completion?

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>>564760412
>Your Chiaki boner is clouding your judgment.
She gives me a boner, yes. But it works since she actively sacrifices herself in the original game and this would just add another layer to her actions.
>Objectively, she should be one of the first to die so we can actually get a new game
That purely depends on the motives. It doesn’t matter if some characters die early or others survive, as long as the underlying motives remain the same. People want certain characters to survive so that they can be developed further, but at the same time they forget that the Blackened undergo the most significant character development during their respective trials.
>Like what? Tell me. Chiaki cries about killing her friends and goes "I NEED TO BRING THEM BACK WAAAHH" and that's it? If it's because she can't disobey her programming than that means everyone just forgives her.
I don’t mean to be rude, but I feel you’ve missed the point. The crux of my argument is that the turning point should occur in Chapter 5, not in Chapter 6 as others in this thread are suggesting. Nor is it about whether she’s forgiven or not, since they won’t even remember what happened; It’s about adding another layer of depth to the original game, to add on it instead of just throwing it out the window and make something else entirely.
>t's not even an interesting plot twist.
Well, you haven't proposed anything else that could dramatically change chapter 6 and the ending, so you keep trying to pass your subjective opinion as objective. All of this matters because it carries over to the original game.

>>564760435
So, as I said, this is the perfect opportunity to break the formula and do something meaningful that adds to the original game, rather than discarding it and just give you the illusion of something new.

>>564761832
Rip! Guess its just big booty dangan lolis forever

>>564754023
The big chapter 1 surprise will be a lack of any surprising or subversive elements whatsoever, and in some promotional interview Kodaka is gonna say
>I think I outgrew the phase where I wanted to, like, surprise the player at the beginning of every game... Whatshisname-kun (the new main writer) thought we should just focus on telling the story this time, and I think the story we ended up with is pretty exciting.

The story is whitewashing Nagito into a nice boy ally for Hajime, with Chiaki being their level-headed straight friend who jerks off in the corner, Nagito and Chiaki are the new survivors, the two other survivors are Kazuichi and Akane again

goodnight /drg/

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>>564759083
>>564759337
>>564761245
WHAT?!
ARE YOU OUT OF HORNY LITTLE ADOLESCENT MINDS?

>>564761810
This is just Kirumi's and Mondo's execution combined.

>>564762796
Feels too slow too compared to danganronpa.

>>564762597
It's ok, they're just following the TikTok trends.

>>564762376
All they released was statements saying the price will increase when they release more chapters.

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Just for the record, I believe it's really unfair how some people shit on Chiaki for her role as a supporting deuteragonist, but when given the chance, they just push other characters into the same role without taking into account their personalities.

>>564763126
Mahiruchuds...

>>564763104
Greedy bastards. But at least they are smart enough to make a Danganronpa inspired game instead of a fangan so they can monetize it.