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Best mage Himiko! I hope you all have a wonderful day! For those of you posting about how much you love your waifu or husbando I have a message for you They love you too

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Cheeky brats OP

A remake for either THH or V3 would be pointless desu
With GD it makes sense because people like it for the le wholesome characters and Nagito and the gameplay , not the Shark Jumping story

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We are living in the future
Things are getting better every day
They're also getting worse every day

>>564752197
A remake for GD is stupid because I want Danganronpa 4, not 2 pretending to be 4

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The new route being prequel could set up a new ground for development/build up that couldn't possibly happen in the original route, like Chiaki not realizing she's an AI and struggles to help her classmates without any knowledge of NWP and her role, or Twogami when he still fully takes Byakuya's persona like true Imposter before he decided to change and act on his own to take the role of responsible leader, or maybe even Nagito before he went all "cause despair to create greater hope" insane mumbo jumbo and was just a self-deprecating fanatic
The new route would progress along with their development into what they are in the original route

>>564753345
that would be extremely boring because we already know their end points

>>564752181
RAPE RAPE RAPE

The ‘big chapter 1 surprise’ will not be the murder, but something that shifts the whole setting and killing game dynamics into something very different from 2.

>>564753863
They're clearly both consenting, the one on the right will just be statutory

>>564754023
The big chapter 1 surprise will be something absolutely no one is expecting, aka Teruteru kills Imposter again.

>>564754023
komaeda dying would be a pretty big shift of dynamics

>>564753345
How can 2x2 be a prequel when the route split happens when they are already in the NWP? DR1, DR3 (Despair arc), and UDG already happened by the time 2x2's new route begins.

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>>564753637
Yes but how the development goes is what people eager to know, that's why backstories are popular and always in demand for popular characters
If you think that's bad then say that to every prequel ever

>>564754629
Can't they just ignore DR3 ?

>>564754742
Sadly no, DR3 is considered canon and very important to the story.

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>>564754629
It's possible that the original route isn't the first simulation run so despite new route have "something unexpected" that diverges from the original, it could be something that happened before the original i.e. the previous simulation run

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If they remake V3, should they change the ending?

>>564754691
>>564755027
You're jumping through a lot of hoops to justify this actual dogshit idea
Let it go brochacho

>>564755029
Duh, new set of survivors (except Himiko, she stays) and it's actually season 2,809
Of course this means that V3xV3 will be the 9th game to make the title work, meaning we have to wait on Danganronpas 5-8.

>>564755029
Yes. It should be revealed that Tsumugi was also a victim of the flashback light, and has no ties to Team Danganronpa.

>>564755029
I would prefer a whatif story where we see Tsumugi's script playing out

Not even as a full game

>>564755523
Like
If we are gonna be honest
The Gopher Project and Ultimate Hunt aren't really "worst" in concept than the Despair Remnants , it's just that the game actively bashes it using Kokichi as a proxy to call out it's fake melodrama

chiaki evil ai

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If they ever do a V3xV3 it should also include a V2 short game along side a new route. And in V2 you play as Rantaro and it's revealed that he survived by being a winning blackened. So we can finally see what happens when a blackened wins.

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The night was young, neon in my eyes.
With music in my breath, I chased butterflies.
Laughter and consolation, they became one.
Voices that will fade along with the morning sun.

Sitting on the sidelines, with no direction or plan.
Until she danced into my life, making me a complete man.
Leading our dance, she became the mistress of my steps,
And with every motion she made I forgot another one of my regrets.

My breath stopped short, but she flowed like a flame.
My eyes on her rhythm, inviting me to play her game.
My soul leapt out of my chest, I don't even know where it came,
It was this irresistible attraction, something I can't begging to name.

My Chiaki, your eyes shine brighter than any neon lights.
One look from you turns all my wrongs into rights.
I don't need any words, my whole being screams that it's true,
That on this night together... I want to lose myself in you.

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>>564755107
>dogshit
That's just you buddy
Besides your logic applies for asking new development too, since we already received the ultimate end points from DR3 anime that happened after DR2: Hajime is no longer Izuru, NWP is destroyed and Chiaki is gone forever
Going by that this new route shouldn't even be possible to happen

>>564755029
No. Double down on it and explicitly establish that 1 and 2 were always fictional and never happened in any canon. Don't leave any room for the interpretation that V3 is its own canon and that the Hope's Peak canon is its own thing. State explicitly that everything in 1, 2, UDG and 3 was all fiction, full stop.

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>>564753345
2x2 being a prequel + a reset of the NWP would be the only way we could explore things like a blackened getting away with murder.


>>564753637
All the other proposals always end up in the same place at chapter 6. The prequel is the only one that changes the ending other than changing the survivors.

>>564755959
kys rapefag

>>564702219
Off the top of my head
>Ulysses' fate is ableism and canon Danganronpa is more tasteful about chronic illness like Kaito and Nagito
>Native Americans have been tokenized and forced to be palatable through Wenona surviving and having a redemption arc
>Jett would have been written terribly because the main writer revealed herself to be racist with her handling of Desmond

Now the real question is
Who are the Adam and Eve in Tsumugi's Noah scenario

>>564756181
>since we already received the ultimate end points from DR3 anime that
No one gives a fuck about the DR3 anime. No one wants to see a bunch of characters act less developed than their previous selves and go nowhere. 2's cast does not need anything stripped from them. People want to see the characters of 2, as they are, survive where they died and evolve into new characters from their experiences. Not "haha this is Nagito before he was mean, isn't that silly? btw he's going to be mean lol, because you've already seen how this character plays out." A prequel is a dogshit idea for any Danganronpa except maybe V2 which would probably still be unsatisfying.

>>564756364
>All the other proposals always end up in the same place at chapter 6. The prequel is the only one that changes the ending other than changing the survivors.
There's other ways you can change chapter 6. They're separate scenarios, not a branching choice, so they can reveal that anything is happening, there's no need to adhere to the original story.

>>564756292
>State explicitly that everything in 1, 2, UDG and 3 was all fiction
But that's all what Tsumugi said? They never said anything about them exist in another timeline or anything.
It is just basic logic people come up with. Why would they want to throw away everything about the original DR storyline? Why would you even want V3 to debunk its existence so hard?

>>564756364
>a reset of the NWP would be the only way we could explore things like a blackened getting away with murder.
Who wants to explore such a boring end point? That and resetting the simulation just sounds like a giant waste of time.

>>564755959
Waiting for the other lolis

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>>564756917
>There's other ways you can change chapter 6.
Name three.

>>564757003
Calling something “boring” isn't an argument, you doofus. If you leave it up to subjectivity, I can find you hundreds of people who want that.

>>564756638
Me and her.

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i miss being in love ..

>>564757376
It is an argument because it's entirely subjectively interesting lmao
A Blackened winning and then there being no consequences is not something that needs to be explored, you can find thousands of people who don't want the story to be "and nothing mattered"

>>564756292
Thats not doubling down, thats just repeating what we all know

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>>564756768
>People want to see the characters of 2, as they are, survive where they died and evolve into new characters from their experiences.
Well unfortunately that's unlikely to happen, since I doubt they'd retcon a whole 2 seasons of anime as bad as it is. We've already seen their end points so there's no room for new development and they won't create a new retconned storyline from it either.
>but it's just an alternate route
Then the question goes back to why they didn't just remake DR1 like they originally planned in the first place, if they decided to retcon or make alternate timeline anyway.

>>564757376
>Name three.
-New simulation with other people trying to mimic the results of the original simulation
-Simulation running again, but without anyone in it - all the characters are just AI like Chiaki and don't have "real bodies" to return to
-TV series reboot of popular old season, recreating 2 but with real people and not a simulation

I'm sure there's plenty of other more interesting possibilities, but I'm not a writer. The point is that you can definitely come up with different end points.

>>564755959
>New route and V2
>And in V2 you play as Rantaro and it's revealed that he survived by being a winning blackened
That's pretty much the only way to do a winning blackened without it feeling like a weak ending. But if they went that way maybe the protagonist shouldn't be Rantaro so we don't see it coming.

>>564757218
Pick a loli.

>>564758020
Monaca

>>564756570
Also I think people are still up in arms about the kid getting executed.

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>>564757872
You're asking for new character developments yet the ideas you come up with basically boils down to "they are not real all along"
That's literally nothing matters

>>564757745
>Well unfortunately that's unlikely to happen, since I doubt they'd retcon a whole 2 seasons of anime as bad as it is. We've already seen their end points so there's no room for new development and they won't create a new retconned storyline from it either.
They're not gonna retcon anything, 2x2's nu-route is just going to be its own seperate story.
>Then the question goes back to why they didn't just remake DR1 like they originally planned in the first place, if they decided to retcon or make alternate timeline anyway.
An alternate timeline of a more popular game with a relatively self-contained endpoint with an anime no one has ever seen is much easier to justify than an alternate timeline of a game that would have wide impact on every entry in the series except maybe V3. They are not going to make it so that 2x2 can fit into canon, that's retarded.

>>564758302
>literally justifying Tsumugi's stance
retard
just because they're made in a lab doesn't mean they aren't as intelligent as real people and don't deserve to survive
quite literally, it matters

>>564758302
There's a reason I'm not the writer for the games. My point stands that you can absolutely change the outcome. I'm sure you can do ones that directly involve the other cast too, where alternative branches happen before the game starts.

I'd also disagree with your assertion that them not being real means that nothing matters, like V3's whole point is literally the opposite. The characters aren't some arbitrary collection of atoms, it's their personalities and memories that make them who they are - there's no reason to say that an AI version of Ibuki that remembers all her lived experiences and thinks and behaves the same of her is any less "Ibuki" than the real thing, or that you can't do any development with that character.

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I love my gorgeous wife!

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>>564751868

Happy Ougoku Saturday!

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>>564758190

>>564759083
>>564755959
ToT. And yes.

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>>564759083
>>564759174

>>564759337
puffy

>>564755959
>>564759083
>>564759337
Can we lynch rapefag now?

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This has to be the absolute worst trial system any fangan has ever fucking done.

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>>564757703
It’s interesting because we already have a base game that this one builds on. Let’s imagine that Chiaki kills someone in Chapter 5 for reasons such as ‘she couldn’t disobey her programming this time’ and received a direct order from the FF. The amount of character work you could built on that alone is huge. It’s an alternative take on a scenario we’re already familiar with. It’s literally the best chance to break the formula and have a plot twist that ties in with the original storyline. In fact, SDR2 is the only scenario that could pull something like this off. If you find that boring, sorry pal, but it's on you.

>>564757872
>New simulation with other people trying to mimic the results of the original simulation
If they’re actively trying to replicate the first simulation, then they’d effectively end up in the same place, except with a post-credits scene of people taking off their virtual reality headsets and patting each other on the back. M. Night Shyamalan ahh ending.
>Simulation running again, but without anyone in it - all the characters are just AI like Chiaki and don't have "real bodies" to return to
If it's running again, then as before, they end up in the same place in chapter 6 with just a different Twist. Might as well do a prequel instead.
>TV series reboot of popular old season, recreating 2 but with real people and not a simulation
...Bro, you get the point.

These all end in the same point with a surprise twist just after everything else occurred. That's kinda cheap.

>>564759560
He is a based nigger

>>564759337
Now I see why her special DVDs were so popular.

>>564758285
Specifically it’s the idea that a 14 year old girl was going to get a “romance” themed execution in a game where the executions supposedly ramp up in brutality over time

>>564760027
Only legal in japan

>>564760087
I mean, it's not like you have to make it weird? Just off the top of my head, it could be getting shot through the heart with an arrow, or pricked to death by poison rose bushes or something

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>>564758556
Copying V3 plot is very unlikely anyway, stupid even
Besides, trying to completely separate the new route from the canon timeline or even the same universe doesn't sound better than "regressing" the characters, which could also happen and justified in your case as simply new personalities for the characters

>>564759840
Your Chiaki boner is clouding your judgment. Objectively, she should be one of the first to die so we can actually get a new game, and if she survives, definitely not a repeat killer at all so we can get a new execution.
>Let’s imagine that Chiaki kills someone in Chapter 5 for reasons such as ‘she couldn’t disobey her programming this time’ and received a direct order from the FF. The amount of character work you could built on that alone is huge.
Like what? Tell me. Chiaki cries about killing her friends and goes "I NEED TO BRING THEM BACK WAAAHH" and that's it? If it's because she can't disobey her programming than that means everyone just forgives her.
>It’s an alternative take on a scenario we’re already familiar with. It’s literally the best chance to break the formula and have a plot twist that ties in with the original storyline.
It's not even an interesting plot twist. How would it even work out trial wise? You just do a bunch of shit and they hit you with "actually none of that mattered because you can't find out the killer anyway lol" and then what would Chapter 6 be? No one wants to see "everyone died but they get brought back no consequences lol".

There's legit zero arguments against Shuichi fucking Maki and Himiko that's not just "Threesomes are icky"

>>564759840
>These all end in the same point with a surprise twist just after everything else occurred. That's kinda cheap.
Ever played a Danganronpa game before? They all follow the same structure for 5 chapters before a late game reveal about the truth of their situation and then the characters win freedom. What you are complaining about here is not something new, you're just describing the series formula.

>>564759728
I haven’t gotten that far because the game completely froze trying to load the trial.

>>564755959
>>564759083
>>564759337
Hiyoko next?

>>564760435
This is why Rain Code was even created
So he could make a Killing Game where he doesn't have to follow the "le Epin twist" Formula that Junko created

>>564759728
They’d gone so long without using cards I’d honestly forgotten they were in the game and were supposedly a core element

>>564760359
>trying to completely separate the new route from the canon timeline or even the same universe doesn't sound better than "regressing" the characters
It sounds completely better because it would actually have stakes and we wouldn't know the end points of the characters lmao
Who the fuck wants a stakeless prequel, when instead we can have "the dead characters actually died this time"

>>564760439
>>564760616
They made this shit in Godot. It's clearly an early access release, they didn't playtest anything for shit. Why didn't they say it's an early access release? Because Fuck you.

Here is the fucking execution, since it's Godot I can extract everything in the pck file. https://files.catbox.moe/k5cjym.ogv They had the actual fucking balls to do Leon/Sayaka but worse. They kill the brother since he's a dick.

The whole game leaves me with a bad taste in my mouth at the moment.

>>564760334
We don’t know the details about the execution and probably never will so people are filling in the gaps with the worse shit they can imagine and assume she gets gang-raped so hard she’s disintegrated or whatever.

>>564760609
and Rain Code sucked
we don't talk about it for a reason

>>564760854
>and Rain Code sucked
incorrect.
>we don't talk about it for a reason
yeah, cause it says "danganronpa general" in the thread title.

>>564761013
Yet we talk about PEG
curious

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>>564760523

>>564761245
MY DICK

>>564761187
if you're arguing we don't talk about stuff that sucks, then PEG is probably not the best example

>>564760609
Rain code does have le ebin twist though, it’s main difference is not being in a death game setting.
I am having a hard time picturing a 2x2 ending having a point, though. I can only see it introducing completely new plot elements to the series to make a unique semi-self contained plot.

>>564759083
>>564759337
Since you did all the DR lolis you should try fangan ones like toshiko

>>564761245
I need Hiyoko's bratty ass in my face ASAP!

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>>564760620
Honestly, it's not that I disagree that new developments and stakes are definitely more interesting, but if that's the route they are taking they could've as well just make a brand new game with new characters instead of a remake
No offense but I think this argument boils down to "what the devs would logically do" vs "what narratively should happen"

>>564760653
Catbox is viewing the exported shit is a mp3 even though it plays normally, so I'm converting it to mp4. I could extract the sprites but they are stored as ctex which means reimporting into godot to export them as PNGs. If I want sound I have to import the original file into godot to reapply the sound, since they seperated the sound files from the videos to play on a separate track.

Link: https://files.catbox.moe/u88c8b.mp4

Since it's Godot, you can use GDRETools to decompile the exe and reimport everything where you have a 1 to 1 source of the source code. Too much effort to extract the sprites in high quality.

>>564761509
Toshiko is too obscure of a character for me to gen. I'm using the trial version of NAI so I don't have access to their character reference feature.

what would you make danganronpa 4, /drg/?

>>564750350
That sounds really boring.
>>564750046
Yes yes, you want to fuck Nagito
I would rather another character take up the rival role
And the only reason you're going to say that no one else could is because you.haven't bothered to think about the ways they could work as a rival
>>564751341
Hnnngh..! I want Nagito to go chapter 1, but you drive a really mean bargain. I suppose I'd be okay with him living a little longer if we can have the rug pull of Hajime dying first instead.
>>564751353
Yup, that's 100% happening if Chiaki is the MC

>>564761874
My femdom killing game fangan, of course!

>>564761810
I hate that cat's design so much.

Imagine they make the Chiaki in 2x2 somehow not an AI and then still kill her anyway

>>564762119
What were they thinking?

what if Rantaro gets off the boat and ends up as the only survivor and Imposter is revealed to be Tsumugi and the mastermind?

Does Kumitantei have a roadmap for completion?

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>>564760412
>Your Chiaki boner is clouding your judgment.
She gives me a boner, yes. But it works since she actively sacrifices herself in the original game and this would just add another layer to her actions.
>Objectively, she should be one of the first to die so we can actually get a new game
That purely depends on the motives. It doesn’t matter if some characters die early or others survive, as long as the underlying motives remain the same. People want certain characters to survive so that they can be developed further, but at the same time they forget that the Blackened undergo the most significant character development during their respective trials.
>Like what? Tell me. Chiaki cries about killing her friends and goes "I NEED TO BRING THEM BACK WAAAHH" and that's it? If it's because she can't disobey her programming than that means everyone just forgives her.
I don’t mean to be rude, but I feel you’ve missed the point. The crux of my argument is that the turning point should occur in Chapter 5, not in Chapter 6 as others in this thread are suggesting. Nor is it about whether she’s forgiven or not, since they won’t even remember what happened; It’s about adding another layer of depth to the original game, to add on it instead of just throwing it out the window and make something else entirely.
>t's not even an interesting plot twist.
Well, you haven't proposed anything else that could dramatically change chapter 6 and the ending, so you keep trying to pass your subjective opinion as objective. All of this matters because it carries over to the original game.

>>564760435
So, as I said, this is the perfect opportunity to break the formula and do something meaningful that adds to the original game, rather than discarding it and just give you the illusion of something new.

>>564761832
Rip! Guess its just big booty dangan lolis forever

>>564754023
The big chapter 1 surprise will be a lack of any surprising or subversive elements whatsoever, and in some promotional interview Kodaka is gonna say
>I think I outgrew the phase where I wanted to, like, surprise the player at the beginning of every game... Whatshisname-kun (the new main writer) thought we should just focus on telling the story this time, and I think the story we ended up with is pretty exciting.

The story is whitewashing Nagito into a nice boy ally for Hajime, with Chiaki being their level-headed straight friend who jerks off in the corner, Nagito and Chiaki are the new survivors, the two other survivors are Kazuichi and Akane again

goodnight /drg/

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>>564759083
>>564759337
>>564761245
WHAT?!
ARE YOU OUT OF HORNY LITTLE ADOLESCENT MINDS?

>>564761810
This is just Kirumi's and Mondo's execution combined.

>>564762796
Feels too slow too compared to danganronpa.

>>564762597
It's ok, they're just following the TikTok trends.

>>564762376
All they released was statements saying the price will increase when they release more chapters.

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Just for the record, I believe it's really unfair how some people shit on Chiaki for her role as a supporting deuteragonist, but when given the chance, they just push other characters into the same role without taking into account their personalities.

>>564763126
Mahiruchuds...

>>564763104
Greedy bastards. But at least they are smart enough to make a Danganronpa inspired game instead of a fangan so they can monetize it.

>>564763126
Chiaki is a fucking bitch and used an easy mode mod playing Sekiro

>>564755959
>>564759083
>>564759337
>>564761245
ZAMN!!!

>>564753345
I already commented on it last time you posted it. That would suck because instead of showing different facets of the same characters, it's retroactively inventing a whole new personality for them and contriving them go through artificial "character development", overcoming flaws that literally did not exist until they just made them up for 2x2. It's a typical gay retcon.
This is kinda like saying that Impostor had so much screentime and was so well-explored in the original that there is absolutely nothing more we could do with him as he is, so we absolutely have to retcon a different personality into existence for him.
>>564754691
Yes, prequels are frequently quite bad, especially ones involving significant retcons.

I support Mahiru as protagonist

>>564762457
>That purely depends on the motives. It doesn’t matter if some characters die early or others survive, as long as the underlying motives remain the same.
What do you mean by this?
>People want certain characters to survive so that they can be developed further, but at the same time they forget that the Blackened undergo the most significant character development during their respective trials.
Other characters deserve that treatment more than those who already got it.
>It’s about adding another layer of depth to the original game
But how? Why? What's the point? You haven't explained that.
>Well, you haven't proposed anything else that could dramatically change chapter 6 and the ending
The fact that it's not like you need to propose something to call something shit aside, I'm a "2x2 is real fiction and the actors get unplugged and have to do a killing game in the real world with different personalities" theorist myself honestly, but if I had to come up with a dramatically different chapter 6 that keeps all characters the same I would go for something that develops the surviving characters and closes out the plotlines set up for them. I don't think a dumb twist needs to be part of the game, since you could say whatever bullshit.
>actually they were already possessed by AI Junko in the real world and Izuru is trying to upload recreations of them he developed after he had a change of heart
>actually Izuru never existed as Hajime and in this timeline Izuru is Mahiru
>actually Izuru is pure evil and drops the Hajime facade early and the protag is Gundham, and you spend Chapter 6 finding a way to kill him
>actually Chiaki was corrupted by Junko from the start and is joyfully fucking over everyone from behind the scenes
>actually Nagito didn't care about hope and was a despaircel all along
Chapter 6 is simply too dubious to meaningfully theorize on. I don't care for an AI Junko centered Chapter 6 because it's really nothing new.

>>564763398
It's a little skummy how they are doing it.

>>564762457
>break the formula and do something meaningful that adds to the original game
do that then instead of whatever you're currently doing

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>>564762018
The game that's still carry the theme about hope and despair would be hollow without the twisted guy who speak about hope all day, and he's the only one determined and crazy enough to make progress to expose the hidden truths that's only possible through unconventional means
Who else has the mind and capability to pull off such feats?

>>564763791
How much is the game now? And how much are they increasing the price per chapter? If they are reasonable with the price, I can see it as a good motivator to actually finish the game.

>>564764110
15, around 2.50 dollars for each chapter where chapter 6 makes it 30.

>>564763942
>Who else has the mind and capability to pull off such feats?
Imposter, Peko, Nekomaru, and Gundham could all have that dawg in them, I just know it.

>>564761597
Shuichi two seconds before becoming genocide jacks latest victim

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>>564762597
Made for bullying

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>>564764525
Kino

>>564756364
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>>564759840
Chiakistr8 I don't think you need to jump through so many hoops to justify why you want the remake to be all about your waifu
It's ok, everyone gets it, I would want that too
You don't need to come up with these justifications like "it would allow us to have a blackened who wins" or "it would allow us to have a completely different chapter 6" because not everyone cares about either of these and the latter could be achieved in an infinite number of ways (like the most obvious, Hajime dies for any reason at all, JunkAI is down, so there's no mastermind and eventally anarchy breaks out with some students wanting to remain in the simulation forever and others wanting to go back to the real world, just something I came up with in 10 seconds rn)

>>564764171
15 dollars for a game with only one chapter and no guarantee that more chapters are coming is insane and hella greedy. And 30 dollars for a shitty fangan is bullshit.

>>564764750
On one hand, I really enjoy the idea of paid fangans existing like this. On the other, they really should have at least labeled it as an early access release AND not copied DR 1-1 so brazenly.

>>564756570
>Native Americans have been tokenized and forced to be palatable through Wenona surviving and having a redemption arc
Twitter-level complaint. You could apply this to any sort of Native American depiction in media where they're not the main characters.

>>564757872
>>564758302
Yeah these are kinda bad too.

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>>564763547
Shut your mouth, you filthy Pegger.

>>564763627
>What do you mean by this?
Motives change the plot. It’s as simple as that.
A good enough motive can justify any character’s actions.
>Other characters deserve that treatment more than those who already got it.
Fair. You can change the characters that survive longer, that was never the issue.
>But how? Why? What's the point? You haven't explained that.
I’ve already explained it. A catastrophic event occurs, leading to the simulation being reset and giving us the original game. That way, you’re able to alter all the events of the second game, completely rewrite Chapter 6, and tie everything back into the events of the second game. It doesn't even has to be Chiaki the one who does it.
>The fact that it's not like you need to propose something to call something shit aside
>2x2 is real fiction and the actors get unplugged and have to do a killing game in the real world with different personalities
That's the most boring crap I've ever read along with the most retarded justification you could have come up with. Holy shit, it doesn't matter how much you develop Hiyoko or whatever, none of them are going to impact the ending of the original game in any way since the entire situation was out of their hands. You guys are a bunch of boring, obtuse Peggers, that offer nothing that would substantially change the ending. My prequel ending is still better than anything you could come up with since it ties directly into the second game. You talk about pointless, wanna know something pointless? Making an entire new game out of a game we already know and love, yet not adding anything substantial to the story other than a few changes for a quick cash grab.

>>564763910
I literally came up with an idea to ensure that, for the first time, a Blackened emerges victorious, by using a beloved character that would never kill, breaking the mold of the trial in Chapter 6 and linking it to the original game. Nigga, sit down.

>>564760420
Well, threesomes are kinda icky

>>564765446
Real?

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>>564764742
>Chiakistr8 uuuhhh please stop having fun
These fucking Peggers, I swear.

>>564760854
People hate Rain Code because they can't self-insert into the wimpy shota protagonist
That's literally the only reason, I have never seen any legitimate arguments against it

>>564765328
>I’ve already explained it. A catastrophic event occurs, leading to the simulation being reset and giving us the original game. That way, you’re able to alter all the events of the second game, completely rewrite Chapter 6, and tie everything back into the events of the second game.
No I mean why would you ever want this, it literally is just a "why did I even bother playing this" ending. How does it ADD to the original game in any meanigful way? That's what you haven't explained and I'm interested in hearing in, because I can not for the life of me see the appeal.
>That's the most boring crap I've ever read along with the most retarded justification you could have come up with. Holy shit, it doesn't matter how much you develop Hiyoko or whatever, none of them are going to impact the ending of the original game in any way since the entire situation was out of their hands.
I don't give a fuck about the ending of the original game or if it was in their hands you autist, I want a new story.
>You guys are a bunch of boring, obtuse Peggers, that offer nothing that would substantially change the ending. My prequel ending is still better than anything you could come up with since it ties directly into the second game.
It doesn't even substantially change the ending lmao. Why does tying into the original game make it good?
>Making an entire new game out of a game we already know and love, yet not adding anything substantial to the story other than a few changes for a quick cash grab.
The story is done you faggot, telling a new one with the same characters is better than some dumb prequel shit that doesn't matter.

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>>564764242
>Peko
Too reserved and simple-minded to do anything significant
>Nekomaru
He can be outlandish but he's even less smart than Peko
>Gundham
Too busy coming up with chuuni monologue and wildlife allegory to do anything
>Impostor
He might make some contributions but I can't imagine him being the antagonist, he has strong moral foundation

The only way I could see someone replace Nagito as antagonist is if they are in their remnant personality for most of the game

>>564765446
Are we really going to let the girl who helped in hiding her friend's murder be the protagonist?

>>564763398
Listen pal, if I ever make a fangan, it's gonna be RPG Maker
And who the fuck will want to buy an RPG Maker game? For more than $5, I mean, and whoever heard of a Danganronpa game sold for $5?
Fangan is just the more logical choice

>>564766020
yeah because none of the other characters in dr2 did anything bad before the game, right

>>564765328
>a Blackened emerges victorious,
who gives a fuck
>by using a beloved character that would never kill
who gives a fuck, and she was literally ALREADY the killer of a trial
>breaking the mold of the trial in Chapter 6
cool but that doesn't seem like it's being done in a satisfying way here, maybe you should work on that
>and linking it to the original game.
who gives a fuck

>>564766141
Despair brainwashing excluded, not really besides Peko and Fuyuhiko who are criminal scum iirc

>>564766141
Before being Ultimate Despairs? Pretty much only Mahiru, and Fuyuhiko but he gets a pass because it was his little sister who was killed.

>>564766075
Sell your RPG Maker serial number filed off Fangan for 4.99 instead of keeping the serial number on it and having it be free duh
And Danganronpa 1 is on sale for literally 3 bucks on Switch atm

sneed

formerly chuck

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>>564765973
>I want a new story.
You should've just asked for new Danganronpa title with new cast, dude
Using DR2 cast for completely new storyline without ties to the original game also feels pointless

let's be real, if p;eg was a paid game, everybody here would have paid for it

>>564766727
If I didn't play P:EG when it was free, why would I pay for it?

>>564766712
>You should've just asked for new Danganronpa title with new cast, dude
You think I'M responsible for 2x2?
>Using DR2 cast for completely new storyline without ties to the original game also feels pointless
I disagree, ever heard of an AU
Also at least it'd be INTERESTING as opposed to an irrelevent prequel lmao
I don't give a fuck if the ending of the game doesn't line up with the garbage anime

>>564766712
>Using DR2 cast for completely new storyline without ties to the original game also feels pointless
I disagree on principle.

>>564763942
>Who else has the mind and capability to pull off such feats?
Chiaki because she already knows everything
Impostor because he's a lone wolf investigator at heart
Sonia because she's supposed to be intelligent and resourceful
Peko because Fuyuhiko dies and she's done playing nice
Fuyuhiko because he has ultimate street smarts
Ibuki because she's secretly a genius
Akane because she's secretly a genius too
Nekomaru because he's resilient and has nothing to lose
Kazuichi because he snaps from incel rage and becomes Eren or some shit
Mikan because she snaps from victim rage and goes to act on her own
Gundham because he already plotted a complex murder
Mahiru because her talent is sort of related to exposing the truth
Hiyoko and Teruteru because... uhhh... okay short people don't really make for intimidating rivals but I could come up with something for them if I cared more

>>564766727
Would P:EG have still got canceled if it was a paid game?

>>564767846
most likely

>>564767526
Kys retard

>>564767526
Hiyoko is told the most effective way to bully people is to crush them in debate and she spends all of Chapter 2 in a library raising her power level
>>564767846
No because the greed would overwhelm them

>>564766370
Hiyoko was probably a bitch before the game too
Nagito got up to God knows what
Impostor probably has experience with assassinatng someone and taking their place (this is speculation but a reasonable one)
People in power are inherently sociopathic so Sonia is likely complicit in some massive state-level corruption schemes her family was involved in, even if there's not much she could've reasonably done to combat that as a teen heir

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>>564766978
I'd also disagree that story absolutely must always reach some sort of new conclusion
I enjoy the progress as much as the ending, I'd even say how to reach the ending is more important than the ending itself even if you see it coming so there's nothing wrong with prequel
We'll see if they REALLY gonna pull an AU or V3 plot all over again

>>564768007
Aren't early access devs legally obliged to finish the game after they charged money?

>>564768583
Sort of but it never happens a lot of the time

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>>564766564
But then I'll have to actually pay all the artists and voice actors instead of doing unpaid labor volunteer acting call...

>>564768583
Well who's going to force them to finish?

>>564768412
Hiyoko being mean is a bit lesser compared to assassination and being complicit in conspiracy.

>>564768802
Can't you just ask for volunteers and give them a 1% cut of the earnings? It looks more professional on their careers as opposed to unpaid volunteer work.

P:EG is officially, fully cancelled.

Im going to remake PEG dont worry

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>>564768797
Now that it's official.

REST IN PISS P:EG

>>564768797
I think we all knew this was happening for a while. Making the code base open source is a nice thing. It very sad they won't do a finale project like they want though

>Additionally, some of the details highlighted in these leaks of the story contain unfinished and unrefined plot points that many found troubling: at best the plot points discussed in these leaks were brainstorming ideas and not final; however, that does not diminish the impact of the leak.
HEAR THAT, CHUDS? Because you were MEAN about just some BRAINSTORMING, you'll never know the REAL kino!

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All of the work just to end like THIS?! None of that needed to happen, none of it!
This is such bullshit!

>>564769165
we are project eden's garden
we carry the flame

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>>564768797
>because of the leaks we won't even bother to reveal the plans for the story in a more official and professional manner
it's like that huh? go fuck yourself

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>>564768797
Well, duh

>>564768797
>It has been roughly three weeks since all the information regarding Faza’s grooming, alongside Sozzay's and Tako’s negligence, surfaced to myself and the community.
Only three weeks huh? Strangely it feels like it's been going on for months already, so much has happened

I'm glad they have the self-awareness to not pretend like the leaks didn't happen and try to fake excitement for le epic rushjob finale show, at least

>the lead programmer might open source a large chunk of the game
Now I'm gonna be a little nervous someone will pick PEG up to finish it and kill Diana out of spite of her being the original intended MC switch... (I don't care too much for the others)

>>564769724
Someone will make a porn game from it, mark my words. I might fuck around with it in the long future.

>>564769270
That was obviously a massive cope. Because if the leaks weren't set in stone the VA's wouldn't have gotten butthurt that they were leaked. He only said that because of the backlash the leaks got lol.

>>564769541
They got so butthurt over the leaks.

>>564769541
the leaks hurt them bad

>>564769541
Well then I guess you can't use the excuse of "you don't even know the full context" anymore

>>564768017
Hey SF, it seems like all your coping was for naught.
Why did you cope about the leak anyway? Who was your favorite PEGger that was revealed to die in the leak?

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There's nothing wrong with this outcome, based even
It could have been GOTY

You guys notice as soon as the leaks were confirmed real, SF suddenly went missing?

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>>564765973
>it literally is just a "why did I even bother playing this" ending.
Why would you even bother playing anything with that type of mentality? My scenario allows us to break away from the conventional formula without ruling out the possibility of new survivors making it to Chapter 5; it explores the idea of a Blackened getting away with murder; it further develops my waifu and adds another layer to her sacrifice; it maintains the game’s themes of personal agency; and it doesn’t conflict with the timeline or the events of the other games. I've already explained myself and I feel you're being slow on purpose.
>I don't give a fuck about the ending of the original game or if it was in their hands you autist, I want a new story.
>Why does tying into the original game make it good?
>The story is done you faggot
Yep, you're being slow on purpose. If you want a new story, then you should care about it getting a new ending. 2x2 takes a story that’s already been told, with characters we know everything about, based solely on the premise of an event that’s supposed to change the rest of the game. My prequel theory satisfies everything you're asking for and adds into the original game. This is not a new story with new characters you dimwit, if it doesn't add to the second game then it's truly pointless.

>>564766145
>who gives a fuck
The entire fandom that has been theorizing on it since forever.
>who gives a fuck, and she was literally ALREADY the killer of a trial
An unwilling killer under Nagito's manipulation. She didn't make a plan or orchestrated anything. A culprit with meta knowledge of the NWP would make an incredible case. Like Miu if she didn't got cockblocked.
>cool but that doesn't seem like it's being done in a satisfying way here
Any idea can be turned to shit if the execution is awful. The same can be said otherwise. As long as the game offers the possibility of a reset, it would work.
>who gives a fuck
It's literally an alt scenario.

>>564770261
There are some things wrong with it, but it's not entirely unsalvageable
It would've looked better in proper game form instead of just us being told the plot beats with little context
Like, that's the whole point of storytelling, to make you care, of course people aren't going to be very receptive to a bare plot summary

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Love them.

>>564765748
Nah, this game was really bad in terms of terrible characters, cases, plot and ending. Everyone shitposted about Raincode being Danganronpa successor and I'm glad it's actually not.

>>564769270
If it's misleading misinformation, why not officially share the real details?

>>564770470
Because they haven't come up with them yet lol
They were probably going to come up with some karmic punishment or maybe even proper deaths for Mara and Tozu at some point, but clearly they haven't by now

>>564770261
>damon killing himself
>tozu and Mara stepping down and becoming participants for not wanting to execute the loli
>Tozu and Mara not getting jumped by the entire cast the millisecond after stepping down
>everything about marks incel spergout
>Jett surviving
>Grace surviving with ZERO development

>>564770470
Either the leaks were real and they got mad that the fanbase didn't like how the story went. Or leaks really weren't set in stone and they had no idea where the story was actually heading and were writing as they go because the writers were hacks.

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Well, now we go back to Pegging I guess.

>>564770879
All roads lead to Pegging.

>>564765550
I just think it's better to be honest with oneself over the core reasons one wants something.
Like I don't want Hiyoko to be a survivor, but I can admit that would have some story potential and I admit the only reason I don't want that to happen is because I don't care about her all that much, I'm not gonna make justifications for why that would be a horrible plot development

>>564770730
>>Grace surviving with ZERO development
Just because it wasn't stated in the leak doesn't mean there wasn't any.

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Eva Tsunaka...

>>564770825
i really liked Damon as a protag, he was a lot different from the usuals.
it's a shame we never got to see that fully realized

>>564769176
That sure is a lot of piss.

>>564771113
Poor girl... I could comfort her.

>>564771114
See you soon in Project: Eden's Garden RELOADED! ;_;

>>564771113
She deserved better

>>564771183
He's been saving up for this very day.

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>>564771053
>I just think it's better to be honest with oneself over the core reasons one wants something.
Only mentally unpaired Peggers can have a single reason to do something. I can talk about an alternative scenario because I genuinely enjoy it, while also hyping up my waifu. That’s exactly why I can admit that my dislike for certain characters is personal, but not necessarily because of how they were written into the plot. Humans are complex, and your Freudian logic is rather condescending.

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>>564769541
Probably a matter of time until one of the more in the know devs writes about it in detail I guess...

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So they did (kind of) pussy out after all.

>>564771495
You're enjoying the word pegger way too much

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>>564771960
Pfft, don't be such a nagger.

>P:EG
IGN Rating: 3.8/10 - "Too much suicide"

>>564771934
At least it would have been done creatively. Still, it's insane what sort of things Twitter will harass you about sometimes.

>>564769165
Mark protagonist switch
Toshiko cunny route
Mark's lines fully voiced by superstar voice actor, Fauzan Achmad
And we'll use AI to clone Toshiko's voice for the sex scenes and stuff

>>564771934
that's admittedly a pretty funny way of censoring it

>>564770401
>Why would you even bother playing anything with that type of mentality?
Sidestepping the issue being that none of what happens in your story matters which isn't the case for any other game in the series kek
>My scenario allows us to break away from the conventional formula without ruling out the possibility of new survivors making it to Chapter 5
Assuming the conventional formula is having multiple characters survive to Chapter 6 and not ending Chapter 5 with a wet fart, I much prefer the conventional formula.
>it explores the idea of a Blackened getting away with murder
Poorly. There's no heart to it if there are no consquences and it's immediately undone. Also, you have to make a case for why that idea is being worth exploring.
>it further develops my waifu and adds another layer to her sacrifice
You have not ONCE explained how.
>it maintains the game’s themes of personal agency
By robbing it of everyone but Muh Chiaki?
>and it doesn’t conflict with the timeline or the events of the other games
That's literally a negative.
>If you want a new story, then you should care about it getting a new ending
Except your "ending" isn't new lmao, there's no finality, no consequence, no actual mattering
>My prequel theory satisfies everything you're asking for and adds into the original game
It doesn't satisfy a single thing. No new development since the characters in your prequel are developing into ones we've already seen. No real stakes because everything's being undone. It's a nothingburger because any new development will never once be acknowleded in the actual D2.
>This is not a new story with new characters you dimwit
Other than the fact that it CAN be, you can tell a new story with old characters, and that's what people are asking for.
>if it doesn't add to the second game then it's truly pointless.
You're the one who's actually being slow on purpose. An AU stands well enough on its own and isn't pointless unless you're deranged.