Visual Novel General #7561This general is for the discussion of English-translated Japanese visual novels.All posting of untranslated visual novels belongs on >>>/jp/E-celeb shitposting is not allowed.Kindly use spoiler tags appropriately when discussing plot spoilers to facilitate smooth discussion.>Having trouble with your VN? Try the following before you ask for tech support:1. Be in Japanese locale2. Read the Readme3. Check https://rentry.org/4chan-vn-help4. Copy error messages with CTRL+C and paste them with CTRL+V into DeepL5. Google it>FAQs, Recommendations, and Other Useful Things:https://chartanon.github.io/moechart/https://files.catbox.moe/j3dd0n.pnghttps://github.com/marisukukise/japReader>Need a novel with a specific element?https://vndb.org/g>Download Links:https://rentry.org/4chan-vn-linksPrevious thread: >>564747565
We love yuri here.
This is the one.
POST WHITE HEROINES
This thread is ass なのじゃ
>>564784847We need more h-scenes like this. But realistically, she would lose all respect for him the moment he accepted her huge rod into his anus.
new Toneworks ge doko
>>564787474I also want to be bored for 60+ hours
>>564787697I want to breed more blonde heroines
How long until the newest key kamige gets translated?
>>564790878I'm sure the AI edited MTL will drop within a week.
>>564790950>needing someone else to compile a patch for youTech illiteracy is not a good look.
Oi. This kusogaki.. gonna teach her an adult lesson!
>>564789101kino
>>564791065patching VNs is hard.
>>564790950>AI edited MTLThis is like saying watery water.
>>564791676Suisen's impossibly narrow waist...
>>564791524It's a real thing, and it works too. I don't know the details but an AI translation done right requires a 2nd pass
A bit more levelheaded than what I expected, but I guess it makes sense. Grit isn't easy to teach
SHE'S A 3D BITCH TAKUMI DON'T FALL FOR IT
Has anyone tried any chinese visual novels? They look great, but unlike the Japanese, it hasn't been scientifically proven that the Chinese have souls so I don't want to waste my time.
M-Masaka...?! Betrayed by whites again
>>564793113We only read Koikatsu EVNs here.
>oh azarashi made a threesome ge, it must be kino>look inside>Almost every h-scene is with only one heroine>the 3p h-scenes are boring as fuckWhat did I expect
>>564793586only dessert soft can make haremkino
>>5647935863p scenes are always boring
post the most appealing panties
>>564793183What's the point of these hair ties?She wears her hair more or less open, they don't actually have any use.
>>564793885Which hair ties? Can you add more arrows so we know what you're talking about?
>>564793885bro layoff the autism
>>564793695>only dessert soft can make haremkinoNot even them do it rightThe only good 3p h-scenes are the ones were the girls play with each other, instead of laying down waiting for their turn
>>564793113its chinese, the fuck do you expect. Soulless crap
>>564792320Lmao
>>564794383My account is bricked with Kirito
>>564794823Post koko.
how many mjgers are there in /vn/...
>>564795059We've played games before, so at least four of us.
>>564791812Like taking en+jp output and telling it to be the editor? Its kind of an interesting idea but I doubt it would actually result in anyhing better than the first pass TL
>>564795116disgusting
>>564794957nah i'm busy reading vn
>>564794484The only good 3p h-scenes are either mmf (non-consensual) or fff (non-consensual).
3P scenes would be good if the girls kissed each other more.
mmf with one trap is the only good 3p
>>564795441This is my main complaint about 3Ps. Most of the time it's just two girls awkwardly laying down next to each other, or rarely, on top of each other naked but pointedly not interacting with each other.
If I'm in love with an heroine why would I want to have a 3P with another person?
>>564795664This. A good 3p scene should work as a yuri scene too if the guy wasn't there.
>>564795784Because I love both of them and the heroines are in love with each other too.
>>564795116>tfw missed all the rooms
>>564795784Because they get addicted to the penis and demand that you create a harem to get other girls addicted to the cock.
>>564796087image of rapemeat
>>564796087EriChido love
>>564795784Sharing is caring.
>>564796087That's not how love works.Now unironically, if a romance route has to include sex with other girls then it failed as a romance.
As they say,>no man is an island
>>564796356"scolding" umi all night long
>>564795784As long as my partner is happy, I'm content to stand by.
>>564795784ffm yuri is so fucking good
>>564796228imagine the cripple watching while you fuck the brains out of the other one until she's squealing and wailing from layered orgasms like an animal
Just finished all Muv-Luv routes for the first time and I want to blog>pick class rep as my girl from the get-go>try to pick all her options, end up with sumika as my first pick anyway somehow, whatever - i dont hate her>get told to have my favorite girl as my last route before going into the other game>do 2nd run for meiya, kind of boring route>do ayamine, thought she'd be boring but ended up a good girl>do miki, its ok>finally get do doing class reps route>its like the longest route for some reason>it even gets a little epilogue that none of the other routes got>she ends up the sweetest out of all the girls in the endholy shit I'm so happy about having picked rightthank you for reading my blog I just wanted to get it off my chest
>>564796387she might scold you back
>>564796087>>564796228Rokuhara is so lucky
>>564796519Chizuru? She's ugly as shit but I'm glad your choice paid off so well, anon.
>>564796515>the cripplenewfag-chama...
>>564796704but enough about your mom
>>564796748everyone calls her cripple her, newfag
>mfw anon likes worst girl the most
Sumika (Extra) - 70 IQKei - 80 IQChizuru - 90 IQMeiya - 100 IQMiki - 110 IQYuuko - 120 IQSumika (Alternative) - 130 IQ
>>564796805new when they cry series?
VNs for this feel?
*wheeling stops*
>>564796805Muramasa FD?
>>564797013SubahibiSame situation happned with Kimika and Takuji's bully
>>564796842Kyouzuke - 1000 IQ, patrician's choice
>>564796748???haven't played and don't plan to (looks like trash for cucks), of course I don't know the detailsthey'd just look better getting fucked doggy style
>>564797180I don't remember that...
>>564796704You dont mean that
>>564796858
>>564797276>looks like fate/stay night
>haven't played and don't plan to (looks like trash for cucks), of course I don't know the details>they'd just look better getting fucked doggy style
https://vndb.org/t24964.3#last
>>564797042*walks past her with increased speed*
>>564797347She looks perfectly good there, I admit. Not so much with her glasses and twin braids. Not a fan of the fujo look myself.
>>564797310It happens in the prequel.
>>564795664I want to make the ninja call me daddy
>>564797697what if she calls you danny instead?
>first h-scene is while they're bodyswappedThat is certainly a choice
Stinky fujo heroines doko?
>>564797697>"I am not a ninja."
>>564797806
>>564797758Holy kino.
>>564797523
>>564797758That's kinda gay, bro...
I think I'm going to save the Crystalia White Haired Girl route for last. Also, she's basically guaranteed to get an FD, so I'm not going to be too upset if there's no naizuri.
>>564797916>girl and boy having sex>gayThat term really has lost any meaning nowadays.
>>564797887Kino.He became her legs...
>>564797013What's the context?
>>564797887PEAK
I'm noticing that the guy making cheap AI gens and keeps replying to himself always makes stuff about NTR or trannies.What causes this?
>>564798046If you body swap into a girls body but you still have our male mind and all the life experienced you had up til now, and you start feeling the feeling of taking a cock inside of you, you are gay
>>564798254UminekoVietnam
>>564797835I love your art anon
>>564797916What, you wouldn't suck your own dick?>>564798008They recommended Katan -> Sui -> White Woman -> Suzakuin on their cien.
>>564798254He's a masafag.That's their calling in life.
>>564797835>>564798321Oh, that's self drawn? I thought this was a screenshot with a black-white filter lol.Nice work.
>>564798304It all makes sense.Danke, honig.
>>564798284In that case you are a girl and have sex with a member of the opposite sex. Not gay.There is no such thing as a "mental gender".
>>564798046Why the everloving fuck would I want to read an ero scene from the perspective of the protagonist bodyswapped into a girl getting fucked by his own male body? I'd rather shoot myself in the head twice (one for my own body and one for me inside hers).
>>564798598First I would masturbate and then kill myself.
>>564798360It shouldn't be, that's too pathetic even for /vn/ standards.
>>564798509Man, her face looks like it'd be so fun to bash in with a hammer
NTR smile
>>564798598Don't knock it till you try it.
det melty
>>564798828t.
>>564797854You should branch out to yaoige if you like his voice, he acted in many of those.
>>564798321>>564798447thanks. Yeah, it's a close copy of Na-Ga's fantastic workhttps://litter.catbox.moe/bhalpyzir1e16q5v.mp4
>>564798828TEME!I will protect her even if it's the last thing I do!
>>564798329>SuzakuinShe's NOT a Suzakuin, okay? The fact that she has small tits, white hair, and is The Strongest is just a coincidence.
>>>/v/737664965
>>564798982Isn't Battler VA king of homos? Anon should start with his catalog.
>>564799284No, that's Kageaki's VA.https://vndb.org/s63
>>564799519Imagine if it was s65Fuck, this nigger timeline is not worth living
Vns if I want a Sweet Girlfriend?
>>564799037Oh fuck, didn't know she was your girl, man. This hammer is black, though, so you'll let it pound her, won't you?
So far, Mumbaimasa has taught me many great things about the beautiful Indian culture, such as their Indian steel which is far stronger and sturdier than any material a yamatoan craftsman could create, or the superior Indian mathematics which are quite advanced and too complex for the average yamatoan to comprehend.Is this true?
>>564797758this scene was so fucking shit man. MC is raised by a family of magicians that are very pragmatic and 'by any means necessary' attitude towards achieving their goals. MC should have 0 qualms with doing something as simple as a 69 to undo the anti reality phenomenon and is quite knowledgeable on the subject as demonstrated in the previous scene. It devolves into the stupid trope that exacerbates the MC's status as a spineless faggot and he acts all flustered and tries to find a way out of it which basically makes katan take action cause she's overcome by lust and essentially rapes him. Then after the scene hes moping around apologizing to katan for her raping him and hoping shes ok????? This was her own lust btw, there was no magic gimmick or nothing. This route is already a dumpsterfire and I want to skip it so bad . Also thank you you hack of an author, I too enjoy staring at the MC's ass and dick for 10 minutes while being fed explicit detail about his dick and semen. You couldn't adjust the camera angle heroine or at the very LEAST do a split screen POV like yuzusoft does for 69s. Fucking closet homos istg. This could've been an amazing and interesting scene but a hack writer ruined it
>>564799735...Um, is that supposed to be some kinda super high-level joke?"It's way too fucking deep for me.
>>564799519https://vndb.org/c2004> Frot, Male on Male Sex Onlyliterally Kageaki.
>>564799089literally designed like another Suzakuin lol
>>564799784didn't read65
>>564800046KEEEK idblt
>>564799519>>564799972Narahara handpicked the gayest VA he could find for the role, huh? That's pretty funny.
Im not sure if she'll get a fd cause this game broke the traditional practice of crystalia ges'. Usually the shirokami is the 'true heroine' but in this game there is a grand route that unlocks after you finish all 4 heroines. She also only gets 2 H-scenes really as one of her 3 scenes is a completely SFW massage scene. Like actually SFW. And she's the most boring of all the shirokamis by far
>>564799863Ngl, that’s the gayest shit I’ve ever read.
>>564799784He's glazing India a lot. Maybe Narahara is actually indian? Would explain why he's so shy about his real name.
>>564800046
>>564799784I see why Indians are so into Muramasa
>>564799784To the Glory of India!
...
>>564799863Jesus fucking christ. I was interested in this, but that sounds like total dogshit.
>>564800229I-It can't be, or..?
>uminegros woke up again
>>564800229That would explain a lot.>>564800426lmao no way a japanese person wrote this.
U-umi you can't call me that in public...
>>564799863Sounds like you got filtered.
>>564800426https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wootz_steelUnculturable Wichser
>negromasa melty
>>564800693NTA but sounds like you want to suck dick.
>>564800812NTA but if you're a woman what's the issue?
>>564800812So? Nothing wrong with that if I were in a female body at that point in time.
It's because I gave Muramasa a 5/10 that it never crossed 9.0 btw.
>>564799036Self-taught or are you using a guide to drawing?That's really nice.
>>564800898>>564800916Oh, so you're a troon. Explains everything. Consider suicide.
>>564800949How does it feel knowing Minato Kageaki is still more successful than you'll ever be, even with your "devastating" 5/10?
The hero of the Indians, Minato Kageaki
>>564801186>maldingNo wonder your low IQ ass got filtered.
>>564801261Everyone he ever loved died or got raped. I haven't had that happen to me.
>>564801340you will never be a woman
>>564801432And you are larper who didn't read it.
She's been thinking
>>564801456And you will never be a man.
>>564801547Look up what LARP means, newfagbro.No one here is live action roleplaying.
She cute. I hope I can do her route first and it's not one of those unlocked after completing another situations.
>>564801801based tourist who asked gpt what larper means kek
>>564801025no formal school or classes. Just videos, books, tips/tricks from random places on the internet, other people's works, et cetera. You can get pretty far on your own, but in a way the world and other people become your informal teachers that you are always learning from
I want to get into ASapro kino.Where is the best starting point?
Thinking, you say...?
>gay hours
i just want to do
>>564801963larper in the way you're using it is a tiktok term, you're the tourist
>>564801995There is no best starting point because it is all liquid shit. The only winning move is to not play at all.
>>564802243projection
>>564802309
>>564795784Because you love her too. There is nothing morally wrong with polygamy
>>564802305>it is all liquid shitQuite the contrary, lots of constipation
>>564801641better a troon call me what they wish they were than someone I actually respected
>>564801995Mari's game is required reading
>>564802654more like required SHIT
>>564802756I don't get thiswhere is your phone and or pcwhy are you blackwhy are you by a cliff
>>564802756He's so cool...
Muramasafags must be methheads. No other way this can go on for so long.
>>564802857>where is your phone and or pcI'm posting with my mind.>why are you blackLow lighting.>why are you by a cliffBecause it makes me look more badass
>>564802872Meant for >>564802393
>>564800229>>564800426MUMBAmasa is REAL?
>>564802969I want to rape him.
Kenyamasa is so cool. 7/10.
>>564798598Getting fucked in a female body by a girl who's controlling my body is my dream. You wouldn't understand it.
>>564802949そうですか
Anyone see a little key my wife threw it away now can't pee
I think Baldr Sky is more life changing than Muramasa. Shame the gameplay filters so many people.
This would have been the perfect time to use a "Bakahara" joke. Key, why are you denying me this pun
I love Karen
UMIIIIIIIIII PERO PERO UMIIIIIIIIIIIII
I love oppai lolis, especially Yuki!
>>564804028been a while since I've seen an ugly chibi
>>564803296Is it because you're a submissive bottom who hates who you are so much you think there's no way a woman would ever touch you, but you still want to experience the validation of yourself successfully having sex, so since actually achieving it yourself is out of the question, you want to do it vicariously through some twat taking charge of your body so you can just lay back and watch as you literally fuck yourself?
Ahhh, I... my soul is healing a little bit. Is this my new god? Surprisingly a lot of adults do go to therapy because of some kind of sadness
>>564804512God I wish that were me.
>>564804719you could probably get that in japan for 10k yen
>>564804716gross whores
>>564804716uwaa dykes
>>564804365No, that's just you projecting your own insecurities.I'm a dom to begin with, and temporarily changing bodies with a partner means you already have someone who likes you.
h-hayai
>>564805060>I'm a dom to begin withくすくす
>>564804512Yeah next week I'll start seeing a new therapist
Steins;Gate? More like TimeTravel;Slop.
Today I will read a visual novel. I will read Waifu Pony Sim in celebration for Arknights.
>>564805601good luck
>>564805794the perfect shinobi.
>>564805605SG is the best science fiction time travel story thougheverbeit.
>>564805794I thought this was the Cafe Stella girl. Holy same face.
The fabled sukumizu. Itadakimasuuuu.
>>564805987That would be R11
>>564805987>best science fiction time travel storyTallest midget award
>>564806063they don't really look alike
what was up with kimikabro last thread
>>564806171not even a single protrusion on that chest
>>564806063You have to be blind to mistake Mako for Natsume
>>564805987Rokuhara's life story is better
>>564806383Post-finals grade-return high, I assume. We can all relate.
>there are people in this general still in school/uni
>>564806403I am in fact a Chrono Clock heroine. Please no bully.
>>564806495I dropped out of highschool.
>>564805987Back to the Future is better
Kinda surprising how dead this place is once the shitposters fuck off. Blogpost something. DO IT.
>>564807348/vn/ gets mad when I blogpost jopge
>>564806383What happened?
>>564807348I'm still in the common route and there isn't much to blogpost about.
>>564807348You're right. I wish this guy would start his blogpost already >>564807348
my hot take is it is not necessary for every vn to have a romanceable heroine
my hot take is that oppai should be large
>>564807348Do you really need this place to be super fast? Slow threads are comfy
The oppai should be long.
>>564807776I've read all of the visual novels so I can't.
>>564807776Fuck off retard
my hot take is periods should be more common in visual novels and have some nasty MC fuck a heroine through her bloody mess
>>564808127>when they laugh at your vtuber voice
>>564807609idk he felt off
Dad's so cool.
>>564796519strongly tied for best girl with meiya. Kill tama with a stick.
>>564808464it happens when you get a gf
>Believe in yourself. Not in the you who believes in me. Not in the me who believes in you. Believe in the you who believes in yourselfkind of vibe
>>564808143Name a single VN that does this.
>>564808735EuphoriaIm pretty sure I saw this once on a moege too
ARRRGGGGHGHHHH GOD I WISH THAT WERE MEEEE
>>564798223mental illness. There's no more context besides the future - she has the guy they bully beat thes hit out of them all with a baseball bat later and gives him a kiss because she's a fucked in the head whore
>>564808831Wtf that doesn't sound moe at all. I bet it was Marmaladege.
>>564808464show the posts I cba to go looking
Arigatou for the route, Umi-chan. The island kid rebellion was actually pretty entertaining and touching. I guess that I'll focus on some of the original routes next instead of the final RB one
>>564809425>>564780271>>564782354>>564782619>>564784136
>>564808143This but shit and messy anal.
おっぱいマンコ
>CG completion rate is only 44%wtf...?
>>564808831Nah, only thing I remember, is that it was an oldge.I genuinelly dont see anyone crazy enough to put that on a moege nowadays
>>564809781
If your life is moege you prefer plotge or ntrgeIf your life is ntrge or plotge you prefer moege
>>564809921meant for>>564809203
>>564809604He also commissioned makinasis to write subahibi fanfiction set in anarcho-communist utopiaHe's going through that phase uni kids go through I guess
>>564809769the new sei shoujo ge, Im pretty sure eroge also has an h-scene like that
>God Generals and Dead Apostle Ancestors CounterpartVan Grants to Trhvmn OrtenrosseAsch to Rizo-Waal StroutLegretta to Altrouge BrunestudDist to Rita Rozay-enArietta to Primate MurderSync to Merem SolomonLargo to Nrvnqsr Chaos>Ten Wise Men and Longinus Dreizehn Orden CounterpartGabriel to Reinhard HeydrichLucifer to MercuriusMichael to Eleonore von WittenburgHaniel to Kei SakuraiRaphael to Valeria TrifaCamael to Tubal Cain/Kai SakuraiZadkiel to Wolfgang SchreiberMetatron to Wilhelm EhrenburgJophiel to Rot SpinneZaphkiel to Goetz von Berlichingen>Ouroboros and Black Lodge CounterpartGrandmaster to Master TherionVita Clotilde to EtheldredaF. Novartis to Doctor WestLucrezia Isselee to ElsaLuciola to The R'lyeh textBleublanc to TiberiusLeonhardt to TitusWalter Kron to VespasianusMcBurn to CaligulaCampanella to ClaudiusSimeon to AugustusRenne to NeroGeorg Weissmann to SandalphonArianrhod to Nyarlathotep
Meanwhile in Suwahara city...
>Visual Novel and JRPG ComparisonFate - Fire EmblemUmineko - Final FantasyKey/Visual Arts - Tales of SeriesShinza Bansho - Star OceanTo Heart - TrailsGrisaia - LunarTsukihime - XenobladeDanganronpa - PersonaHigurashi - Dragon QuestTokimeki Memorial - SuikodenAce Attorney - Breath of FireFamicom Detective Club - Golden SunTwisted Wonderland - Kingdom HeartsDemonbane - GrandiaScience Adventure - Valkyria ChroniclesRance - YsSilverio Saga - Valkyrie ProfileCiconia - Chrono Trigger/CrossBaldr Sky - Super Robot WarsSchool Days - Mega Man X: Command MissionSakura Wars - Phantasy Star or ShiningEver 17 - AtelierUtawarerumono - DisgaeaSubarashiki Hibi - .hackShall We Date? - Granblue FantasyYarudora - Legaia or Wild Arms or The Legend of DragoonHotel Dusk: Room 215 - EarthboundSaya no Uta - The Witch's HouseTokyo Babel - Fairy Fencer FMahou Tsukai no Yoru - Advance WarsThe Silver Case - Arc the LadFull Metal Daemon Muramasa - The Last RemnantNekopara - Hyperdimension NeptuniaSoushuu Senshinkan Gakuen - Radiata StoriesMuv-Luv - DrakengardSorcery Jokers - Mana>BonusThe Murder of Sonic the Hedgehog - Super Mario RPGDigimon Survive - Pokemon ConquestDoki Doki Literature Club - UndertaleVA-11 Hall-A - IndivisibleDayshift at Freddy's - Five Nights at Fuckboy'sKara no Kyoukai (Not VN) - The Legend of Zelda (Not JRPG)
He's literally me
>>564809604>I do like the Up to the Mountains and Down to the Countryside movement???
i finished the capcom lolige don't get it anons
You guys didn't tell me we were getting Kokukino soon
>>564811058I ain't no pdf diddy blud
>>564811121Poor man's steins;gate
>>564811058I just bought it because it seems fun.
>>564811121I sent you a dm though
From Lucifer to the Champion of Men.. doesn't that make me jesus?>>564811121it was posted here as soon as it was announced though
>>564784275You have a porn addiction that sooner or later you will have to address
>>564811268What if she braps...
>>564811276I'm not here most days
>>564811268AHHHH I'M GONNA KOKU KINOOOOO IN MY PANTS
>>564811382>sooner or later you will have to addressWhy?
>>564811403free conjunctivitis
>>564811512Because we're all going to be oji sans who lose their sex drive
>>564811403I would literally get high
Today is Maya's birthdaySay something nice about her
>>564812067Shitty actress that makes fun of doutei.
>>564812067Fuck her and fuck her route.
>>564812067>actressliterally ntr
>>564812067green eyes are nice
>>564811227its fun but the main story is pretty short, even if you do all the side content. also you can't NG+ on the difficulty you unlock after beating it
>>564812067I remember the end of her route making me mad because her shitty mom basically gets away with being an awful person
is there literally no cure for agpi can't play any eroge without desiring to be a cute girl
stop being a slut in the pre-common route.....
what is the point of this character
>everyone has an ahoge except Not-Suzakuin可哀想
>>564813063my guess, unburdened by any knowledge of the game at all: oppai character
>>564813063She's the one who brings An-An out of her shell and acts as the voice of reason. She helps keep the group together and her death shows the futility of perfect unity preventing witchification.In Hiro's route she is nice and boobs
'kano hours?So boys are obsessed with the Roman Empire and girls are obsessed with the Mongol Empire.Naruhodo...
Sca-ji is drunk on his popularity too muchI really can't wait to see his downfall
>>564813535Wtf I'm a girl now
What VN should I read after my current VN>new hotness 1>new hotness 2>old superkamige>secret fourth vn
>>564813565>now
>>564813535MEN are obsessed with the Pre-Columbian Incan Empire.
I'm obsessed with the おっぱい帝国
>>564813674>Incan more like incel empire
>>564813535I'm more into the ancient near east
>>564813535girls are obsessed with true crime and handsome serial killers
>>564811121It's kamige but zoomers wouldn't be able to understand it.
Aztec thread.Aztec general.Aztec board.
How much do I have left in manosaba once the third loop starts
Hmmm I can't wait to dig into this mystery of catbeard, but it's a good time to stop for the day
>>564813535I'm trans and I like reading about jesuit shenanigans across the world.
>>564813936why is she crying cooking is fun
>>564813876Just the finale case, 1.5-2 hours or so?
Why does the EOP refuse to play Lessons in Love?
>>564813535I enjoy learning Japanese and Chinese history BUT all the characters are cute girls who are nearly naked.
>>564814080EVN shit
>>564814092Japanese history is boring outside edo and meiji restoration.
>>564814080I only read VNs the /vn/ JOPs recommend.
MC is talking about his future and dreams, while Shion is just there trying not to laugh...
>>564814080if it takes moogy 180 hours to read it, then it'll take anon 300 hours
What is this face trying to portray?
>>564814268Moogy hasn't read anything in English for years now. His English reading skills are rusty af.
>>564814224Sounds like someone doesn't know the story of the Ako Roushi
>>564814224>m*iji shitstorationWe need a VN about Hideyoshi's invasion of Korea
shan't read cartelge
>>564814080>Why does the EOP refuse to play Lessons in Love?If it's that good, why haven't you read it yoruself and instead only rely upon the opinions of others to shill it?Almost like you don't actually think it's good or want to read it and are just baiting for attention.
Hey Shion, what's your favorite Yakuza karaoke song?
I bet it doesn't even have oppai.
>>564814252That's okay, all Shion needs to be is my wife.>>564814658>not today is a diamond
need amakano lolige
>>564814080they're busy finding excuses to not play it. they're not even aware of their prejudices. these people don't want to experience good works. they're just japanese supremacists. i have it in my backlog. i'll play it by the end of this year.
>>564814429Cartelge are really good sometimes.
He did it...He amai'd all over the kano...
>>564814697The gap in personality between the two sisters is too good. Though in the end, I prefer Kanon
sasuga fishman
>>564814765MHBST
>っ……!>...!I'm such a good translator
Reading VNs foments an out-of-band quantity of flatulence in my colon
>>564815542I really feel like this is not the right thread for this my dude.
>>564815542>VNmong is a vtuberfagHoly embarrassment
>>564815576>>564815596Sorry, guys.
>>564815542This is the right thread
>>564815542Can't believe I share this general with vtumorfags
>>564801896sauce
I have a headache so only 50 lines tonight.
LIVE
Gacha and vtubers are part of the reason for the decline of vns
So that's Shion's route.Fuck that was sweet. The last part melted my heart and now I want to die, but in a good way.She won me over. I wasn't really her fan during the common route and I probably would've read her route last if it wasn't because of the shitposting, but it was totally worth it. Her dynamic with the MC was really fun to read. From her being actually horny as fuck to opening up and learning to live in a relationship to finally fixing each other . Every step of the journey was sweet.Great girl and great route. And the h-scenes in all the routes so far have been peak kino. Are female POVs actually based? She truly was the Sweet Girlfriend™.Maybe I'll read Touka's route now, she looks fun.
I love my vtuber wife!
>>564815640Do you unironically supacha condom money to these whores?
>>564815817>>564815824Lost to meido btw
>>564815834No, I just watch them for free, I've never been about donations. But listening to girls talk in the background while I work or browse the internet makes me feel less lonely.
>>564815817>I probably would've read her route last if it wasn't because of the shitpostingYou're supposed to read the best girl's route last>Maybe I'll read Touka's route now, she looks fun.Touka is also great, her route is much more comedy and much less drama than Shion.
>>564815884HOLY THIS
don't worship vtubers, worship ME instead
>>564815957Who is your main oshi?
Makinasis is the only foid I worship
>>564815834What use would a /vn/ poster have for condoms?
>>564816092don't think you understood that post
>manosabaposter>illiterateNo surprises here.
>>564814232such as quof?
>>564816287what vn would I have to read for you to respect me
>>564816320He stopped being a /vn/ JOP years ago.
>>564816385Dispatch
>>564816431he was just posting here a few days ago
>>564816007Sadly my oshi (mumei) graduated a year ago. My second favorite did as well. Decided to try more VNs as a result but I get too sad at the end of romance stories to read them.
>>564816469Read it, I picked invisigirl + all heroic options.
>>564816470Shilling here once in a blue moon doesn't make you a /vn/ JOP. He spends most of his time on cartel cords and he learned to speak like them and think like them. He's not the chill anon he used to be back in the day. He's them. He's not us.
>>564816385fureraba
>>564816540Wtf, manosabaposters are actually based...
>>564816661Brother I read Fureraba the day it released, c'mon now. Senpai is best girl by a mile.
there shouldn't be any /vn/ JOPs here anyways >>>/jp/
>>>/jo/ is alive and thriving
<<</vg/vn/ JOPs itsudemo welcome
>>564816385Saihate no ima
>>564816798The comedy bits like that one girl pretending to be an American soldier raping another girl seem pretty good but I'm not that interested in another Xenogears-style oops we didn't finish the story.
People who hate streamers/vtubers: How do you feel about streamer girl characters in your VNs?
erotic dessert chibi as always
>>564816960fine because i can separate fiction from reality
>>564816880It is a finished story with an insane conclusion. Some of the detail pertaining to heroines that was planned as a chapter is not finished.
>>564816960stop posting her here. I don't want her to see me jerking off.
do i read a vn or play vidya
>>564816960I don't like them but since it's fiction I tolerate them. I wish there was a VN where a vtuber faces comeuppance for taking advantage of the male loneliness epidemic to make a bank.
>>564817056imagine death by oppai asphyxiation
>>564817164read a book once in a while retard
>>564817578>read a book
>>564817578I don't like romantasy and that's all bookstores sell these days
>>564817648Why does that matter You can read anything you want from any period in history right fucking now for free
fucking friendzoned
>>564817001We all know she's the best tomefure 1, right?
>>564817796I really like when she gets turned into the butt of a joke (which is very often) so yeah.
I like the girl with the biggest oppai, naturally.
>>564817648i heard some of these dark romantasy books the chicks read these days are fucked up in an interesting waywho knows there maybe actual kino like subahibi in the genre
>>564817980the only good saga planets game...how did they do it...
>>564818131It's not good.
>>56481811595% are just rape porn where MC is repeatedly raped by an elf, vampire, or billionaire (pick two). I've actually read Sarah J. Maas and she's not good, man.
For me, it's Chuck Tingle.
Is Kimikaposter ok? I just saw the last thread. Is he on a low dose of shrooms? Also does his TikTok goth Claymore GF use him as a chair?
>>564818225idk ignorant people also just dismiss this medium as moege and nukige slop. i don't want to be that guy for some other genre or medium. my ex used to be into aliette de bodard.
>MC canonically has a 15cm p〇n〇sToo small, can't self-insert.
>>564817578which one anon
>>564818503Wait, he got a goth gf?
>>564793113>China VNsStiff NeckThe Sojourning Wise Woman's Final QuestCame across these on Fediverse review aggregator sites which seem to be used a lot in China because of censoring or sheer size? Have only read Epiao, but while the latter of the two above looks like probably AA slop the former looks mildly interesting.
>>564818795She watches Claymore and all the young people who do are that type of under 21 goth on TikTok.
>>564818503>Also does his TikTok goth Claymore GF use him as a chair?it's probably the other way around. he probably uses her to satisfy his every fetish aimed at kimika.
>>564818979All we know is that she makes him read old ass books and listen to noisecore music
>>564818131>how did they do it...WHITE WOMEN>only good saga planets gameBut hatsuyuki sakura
>>564818795>>564818979>>564819035>>564819140this is fucking pathetic, no wonder jops run this general, nobody reads vns anymore
>>564819232IDBLT
>>564819232MHBST
akane will be the last one
>>564800857ge?
>>564819232melty?
>>564819140If he reads this. Can he tell his girlfriend that you aren't supposed to listen to noise. The existance of noise music outside of media soundtracks is the artistic statment. If you actually listen or deconstruct a noise album you've fallen for the over analysis bait that Merzbow has called out for decades. She's fallen at the first hurdle, you have to pick her up.
>>564819539what is wrong with that pink? why is he always in low sprites?
>>564819707Sex ban.
>>564819786why? how?
nadenadeshikoshiko spotted
>>564820290Cringiest post itt
>>564819976It takes place in a world where the Birth Reduction Agency has banned all sex - hence the VN being called BRA-ban.
>>564820491then why is that red girl always cheerful and laughing
>>564820006NOOOOOOOOOOO
Yuri ThreadYuri BoardYuri Website
>>564819681my condolences to anyone who has to tolerate you as their gf
tired of the gays
I'm starting a new vn, wish me luck!
When the man is tired of traps, he's tired of living.
>>564820635>>564820870how come you only post key art and never screenshots
Man, what a lousy direction this route went. The messaging of Muramasa has completely lost me right now. It's so forced, like it's pretending it doesn't understand what basic reason guides human value judgments and how we measure the relative weight of people's sins and culpability. It's laughable on its face, and it makes Hikaru a laughable antagonist because it just make Kageaki go along with her logic like an idiot. When you strip away the pretenses, she's just a big powerwank. Is this supposed to be the route's final boss? This is its grand ideological conflict? That's pitiful. Can they just beat Ginseigo already? I don't care anymore. Since she's so obsessed with her dad-brother, what if Kageaki just killed himself on the spot and rendered her stupid motivation pointless?
>>564820635yuri is garbage and so are you
>>564821070what did you expect from battle shonen in vn form
>>564818503you made him wait too long for the fanfic
Ges where Mc gimmick is he runs very fast?
>>564821070>like it's pretending it doesn't understand what basic reason guides human value judgments and how we measure the relative weight of people's sins and culpability.You're making me defend a VN I think is bad, but the argument the VN is making is that there's no relativity with murder. All killing is bad and there's absolutely no situation where it's justifiable. Doushin killing for shits and giggles is no different than Ichijou killing him in self-defense. The VN explicitly says there's no difference between a mass murderer and a jury member that votes for him to get the death sentence.I'm not saying it's a coherent moral position, but it's what Narahara seems to believe and he's very consistent about it.
i am tired of bishoujo archetypes
>>564821249We love battle shonen in vn form here.
>>564821249At least Gilgamesh and Liu Haojun made sense in their shounen fightan VNs. Ginseigo is just embarrassing. I guess she's got the sheer scale of the problem she's creating in the climax going for her.>>564821618You don't sound like you're defending it. It sounds like we're on the same page.
>>564820989I don't have many at hand. I lost most of them a while back and moved the rest to the external hard drive. I do occasionally replay all translated Josou games, but don't bother taking the screenshots.>>564821221Lick my hairy lesbian balls
I wish there were more games with cute doggies.
>>564821935even josou kaikoyu and josou sanmyaku?
>>564821935but worthless dyke-san, that's not a cute girl, that's a boy with another man's semen on his face
>>564821935bro when did you transition
>>564821070I think the real problem with Muramasa is that it adopts the batman super extreme killing bad even if the joker is going to kill 1 billion people can't kill him position.The problem is that Kageaki doesn't really try to avoid killing people, he just kills people and whines about it. If Kageaki WAS Batman and was trying to creatively win fights without murder that'd be something but he only does that a handful of times.
>>564822140A cute one, at that!
>>564822168man her route better be good when i get to it
The masculine desire to frot
ReanSchwarzer
>>564822080Kaikyou yes, quite often. I think I've played Sanmyaku twice, I found it too sacharine. Yura route was decent.>>564822148Around 2021, I think. I'd read my first trapge and transitioned from a boy to the man.>>564822309Yui-sama...
>>564822647>Kaikyou yes, quite oftendamn, really?
Which would you say was the best NTR game of last year?
>>564822948
I want to rape Reinhard.
>>564823002holy oppai
Actually giving Witch Hiro a new sore wa chigau yo is real nice.
>564822728Yeah? I really like Nao route, and the other two are pretty great too. Sun-clad trap designs are pure sex
>>564776828Narahara and his Redditor ghoul Kageaki's extreme moral nihilism has never been, and will never be implemented in a functional human society, but ONLY in twisted hellscape like post-Shogunate regime changed Japan, which Narahara clearly aspired to and glorifies at the very true (warlord) ending.>There is no good or evil>Japan was a liberator in WW2>The only character he leans on next to Kageaki is Ginseigo-Hikaru which represents raw force, no philosophy>Whites bad, black cocks good>WW2 ally German weeb hakase good>At the very same time EXTREMELY butthurt on nukes etc.Narahara's twisted netouyo mindset combined with his artistic talent created this but its message is inherently heretical and nonsensical. At least we can enjoy the best character he ironically created, this was the most iconic and the only salvageable, decent part of this VN with again, the fucked up conclusion.https://youtube.com/watch?v=nVKK-v3s3Ck&pp=ygUK5p2R5q2jIOeWvA%3D%3D
Marry your childhood friend.
>>564823518>armpit slutno way
>>564823518No way. Childhood friends have no talent for magic at all.
>>564798284Is there anything hotter than a boy getting transformed into a girl and then losing to the cock and becoming a slut?
>>564822204I'm tempted to agree with you outright because I definitely see the vision there, but I do think that's diverging from the game's foundation of focusing on Muramasa, its concept and cultural archetype, as the centerpiece of the story. It -has- to be a cursed blade of either indiscriminate violence or power from its wielder's suffering or both - that's the point. And at least as far as I've read, Kageaki does avoid consciously killing anyone who isn't infected, and the matter is otherwise taken out of his hands given the necessity of killing said infected. All of his other fights come down to him figuring out how to deal with the opponent non-lethally, escaping the fight, leaving the opponent to die on their own so as to exact no toll, or getting bailed out or spared. The whining is definitely there, but it's been intermittent and justified enough that it hasn't grated on me yet.The problem is Narahara wants far too desperately for the reader to pretend that Muramasa's Law of Balance and Ginseigo's Law of Might may actually represent a legitimate point. The actual reality is that Hikaru is operating on mercury-poisoned brain logic and Kageaki is such a big self-deprecating bitch that he's just like YEAH I'M A MASSIVE HYPOCRITE HOW DARE I RELY ON MY JAILBAIT GF just because he distinguishes between killing an innocent kid and killing a genocidal dictator and has the absolute gall to act on that distinction.
>>564823697It's better if they get huge oppai too.
Need more heroines like Ayaka.
>>564807124Because the MC's mom kept trying to fuck him?
>>564824029
>>564824107Yep, wife.
>>564795197Like I said I don't know the details but yes. Not even the same model either. Having another AI fix another AI's shit. It works and it's how you do MTL correctly. This is the kind of thing that would be cool to learn about. But I don't have infinite time and also the API costs
Low quality post time
>>564812823This looks like complete dogshit
>>564824278If another ai still get it wrong won't it be a waste of time?Having a human check the results would give better quality as I feel
>>564821070Just read one more hour. There is a curry lentils recipe after that, sir
>important route character doesn't get a sprite>MC or heroine ends up arguing with thin air
>>564824578Well duh but who has time for that
>>564824029>>564824107>>564824172>>564824269Boo, we want to make babies with royal whites
After all these years, we are still reeling from how good "Umineko no naku koro ni" was
>>564825523Kurokami is superior.
>>564823461On the note of Muramasa's underlying political messaging, something else that jumped out at me as I was reading is that, just like the Japanese elves are called Emishi, a real life historical ethnic group, the technical name of the western dwarves (elves) is apparently fuckin' Judea. And that would make Chachamaru the de facto magical kike representation, using her fell dwarven arts to collect riches unto to herself and directly attack the credit scores of her enemies. I really haven't been sure what to make of that given this game came out in the 00s, long before the world at large started getting well and truly fed up with Israel's bullshit.
Impregnate 魔女s.
On the note of Muramasa's underlying political messaging, it's for pseudo incel male zoomers. We are noticing
What's the political message of FSN?
How is this legal? (loli)
>>564826231Unironically that superheroes are a fallacy
>>564826051Hey, I wasn't the one who named the dwarves after the Jews, then had the token half-dwarf be the swindling treasurer and financier among Rokuhara's quirky midboss squad, who literally says she wants to end the world ala a dispensationalist. That's literally just the actual game. Chachamaru is so violently fuckable I don't even know if it's intentional or not.
>>564826590uoh
>>564826685Chacha is a sexy man, agreed
>>564826590ToT
>>564826590she's curing your homosexuality (real).
Imagine thinking you can learn anything actually meaningful from anime porn slop. You are not intellectual, you are not special, you are an incel
>>564821070Ginseigos law of might does have a legitimate point. We can literally see it irl: Nature. The strong take from the weak. Nature is indiscriminate and uncaring. If you look at the natural order, you can reasonably make the judgment that there is no objective good or evil. Here's a fun thought experiment: Suppose we were invaded by aliens. These aliens quickly demonstrate that we have no means of fighting back and thus we have no choice but to submit to their new position as the top dog of earth. The aliens routinely kill us for food, sport, keep us in cages for spectacles, force us to breed, or even breed with us for fun, conduct experiments, take away our land and homes to build their own structures and harvest our bodies for various purposes. Would you consider that evil? As far as the aliens are concerned they are just doing what comes natural to them and benefits them. If you do think it's evil and feel most people would consider that evil, then I ask you to reexamine my hypothetical and see if it reminds you of something,
That's manosaba done.Decent enough danganronpa ripoff, overall mixed bag with some good moments but also a few of the cases are quite weak. On a technical level the trials really needed polishing, them being nothing but clicking on text and holding fastforward if you got it wrong for two minutes to get back to where you were is a bit much. Also it'd be much better if they took out 90% of the bad ends. I'll definitely play the next one.
>zoomer's first philosophy class
>>564827254>danganronpa ripoffIt do be like that. Author said their inspiration was largely danganronpa, steins gate and pmmmAnd since you said it's a mixed bag is it safe to assume you agree it's overrated?
>>564826884"I like little girls like you Azusa"
>>564827487One of those situations where it's technically overrated because a lot of people are saying it's a 10/10 and I think it's a solid B+. It's certainly not bad by any stretch.>Author said their inspiration was largely danganronpa, steins gate and pmmmYou don't need the author to tell you this, it's really obvious and not remotely trying to hide it. The biggest problem with the VN is it lifts too much from danganronpa and doesn't really innovate on what danganronpa already did. I think I said at one point that if they released this as Danganronpa: The Witch Trials nobody would bat an eye.
Wait a minute. So last thread people refused to move because the thread was a little early, and then no one made another thread?GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEG
>>564827804We're 550 posts into this thread, if you still care about the last one at this point get help.
>>564827858>you have to be here all day like me>you're the one who needs help, not meGOOOOG
>>564816960I love them in fiction
https://x.com/SourGrapeVA/status/2048240932730929305
>>564827710Even as an 8/10 its overrated. It's not bad like you said but it's riddled with issues. plot holes and characters are mostly surface level outside of a few, which is inevitable when you have a cast of 13 in a 30 hour game. The emotional scenes people were hyping up were nowhere near as intense and some were quite laughable or just felt extremely forced.
>>564826590PHYSICALLY
>>564828164oh for fuck's sake
i find it really odd that people willingly post on twitter that they're reading ntrge just for the sake of a funny TL note
>>564828215Sadly, the one part where it didn't rip off danganronpa is free time. It really needed to let you hang out with the girls and develop them as characters outside of the context of a murder. I'm saying a lot of criticisms which makes it sound like I didn't like the VN, I did. It just has clear and significant room for improvement.
>>564828512Kageaki loves Tmitter
>>564828512None of them are actually reading it, they just saw the screenshot and reposted it, and then somebody else reposts it. Nobody's reading the original VN. Which is good, by the way. You should only read Kedamono in Japanese, the TL is a disgrace and should never have been released, it's horrifically bad.
>>564828531nah i didnt get the impression you didnt like it, im just remarking how overrated it was
>>564827216>force us to breed, or even breed with us for funAliens can't come soon enough. Give me the sex already
VNs with competitive sex?
>>564828624Based ntrJOPGod
>>564826590I will now play your visual novel.More vns for that feel?
https://www.reddit.com/r/cuckquean/Is this cringe or based? Any vns that explore this concept?
>>564828815I think that anon may have a more personal reason for not wanting people to read the tl
Danganronpa is just ok at best to begin with.
>>564828889>read NTRshit>translate it for goym>do a shit job>years later go on 4chan and cry about itBased....
>>564828665Calm down Sumika.
Also Leia is my wife. And Margot is my mistress.
>>564827216That's not the issue. Ginseigo/Hikaru don't just say "might makes right." They say "might is a tool of murder. Its sole purpose is to extinguish life." Muramasa the Second says this outright. It doesn't even stop at this idea, however, it becomes "how dare anyone use might to accomplish anything constructive, ever, rather than just being killfuck soulshitter, the apocalyptic murderhobo. Anything less is just hiding beneath a facade of virtue."When you think about it, Hikaru is really just having a big mercury-poisoning induced retard tantrum. She hates the moral standards that her brother-daddy operates under because they prevent his dick from going inside of her (which as far as I've read may even be a distortion of her actual desire to simply be directly loved as a daughter, disregarding her family's ass-backwards strictures which Subaru and Kageaki were already flouting in so many ways in the first place). Society made those moral standards, so she wants to get rid of everyone else until society consists of only herself and her brother-daddy, who ideally would now agree with her (and Muramasa's retarded mother). She makes a pretense of rotting people's brains so they forget morality and kill indiscriminately and she's like "I dunno why they turn out like that when I'm totally reasonable lol" but the effective result is they all die. She could probably tweak her gravitational waves to make everyone be cool with incest, but no, she doesn't, because she's a mercury-poisoned retard, and she (like a good number of characters in this game) can't seem to fathom moderating their actions due to exceptions to the rules they follow in any way, or even just not taking their modus operandi to its most absurdly extreme conclusion.
>>564828889>>564828992nope, that translator is dead and doesn't post here or anywhere anymore
so I read Tsukihime for the first time.Why didn't you retards just describe it as Moon Knight with nuns, vampires, and xmen mutants
The whole watching thing is completely beyond me. I don't know how people get off to that
>>564829224>Why didn't you retards just describe it as [capeslop]
>>564829187good, time to shit talk hatsuho
>>564829224Because it really wasn't until the remake added a bunch of action scenes in, the original had maybe two a route. It's mostly a mystery-horror.
>>564829224>Shiki is Steven>Nanaya is Marcgrim.
Capeslopper has entered the chat
>>564829243Thoughts on you and your best friend fucking your wife together?
>>564829292I didn't realize it was post stupid and wrong opinions day.Also Yui is also quite cute and a very good heroine. The other two are eh.
>>564829403Is my best friend a woman who is more attractive than my wife, in love with me, and also gets most of my dick in the 3 way?If so, my thoughts are immensely positive
>the cordsisters are talking to each other
>>564829453No, your friend is a man and you are engaging in a MMF
>>564829413we've had this convo before, i agree but yui is clearly number 1did you read lovepical
Best summer NTRge?
Like it was almost yesterday...
>>564829624Sokkou Akki Muramasa
I don't know anything about sex other than what h scenes taught me about sex
>>564826051Zoomers haven't even been born when Muramasa got released though.
>>564829453>wife becomes 3rd wheel in your relationship with hotter mutual friendbased
i do not think even smee's worst heroine is as annoying as yuuki
>>564829403I'm okay with letting her best male friend fuck her but I don't want my best male friend to fuck her. It's cause I know him and I don't want him to experience my wife.
gm sars
>bot is a cucklol
>indians are le bad because... because they greet people
>>564829971Vile harlot.
>>564823174Lads...I would fuck a witch.
wait did they just get the whole cast of haretaka for cameos in this
>>564830056do not redeem the morning greeting sir
>>564827487>was largely danganronpaOnly the 2nd game was decent. >steins gateKamige.>pmmmGood. Homura's thighs.
>>564830235>>steins gate>Kamige.many many MANY hava been saying this
>she did yuzuyu and newtonwaow
I am tired of being a worthless racist chud. Are there any vns that would make me a better person?
>>564830419read any moege
>>564830419Get a gf
>>564830482I don't know how to talk with girls. >>564830471Where should I start? Which ones will be the best at curing my racism?
we do will be reading
>>564830736does this one take place in Canada too
Beatrice's Last Cry
https://vndb.org/v60797>mogs lessons in loveuhm, moogysisters our response???
>>564830419Kazokei
Battler's Last Cry
>>564830419Kageaki....
Noormasa...
>>564830662noble works will make you classist instead
>>564830854lol this looks like ass. didn't know there was a sequel
>>564831085>lol this looks like assbut enough about LiL
>>564830287Ohayo
>>564830854At least the congoid and bawab girls in LiL are cute.
>>564830419https://vndb.org/v33175
>>564830854There are literally (black) children there. Wtf.
Damn, this WEG is almost higher rated than Muramasa. Murachuds, is our VN worse than a WEG??
I just read Sekimeiya, how was it?
>>564831230and?
>>564831261unironically yes
>>564831261>9.5>200 hours long>not even a 10/10shan't be reading
whens /vn/ stardew valley
>>564831261Is it better than DDLC or dare say, as good as Subahibi? If I read my next EVN this will be it.
>>564831378>slop valley
>Moogy is talking about how LiL is inspiring him to write an EVN
Moogy is so cool
Moogus cartelum is his name
>>564831531Based. I bet he could write a proper kamige.
WEGs won
why did they name the anemoi protagonist after moogy
>>564831261check the jizzat on that bottom 10 vote. even mareni is mogged by LiL
LiL niggas
>>564829224>capekino has an animes ripoffmany such cases
Could you defend your favorite heroine from a bunch of basketball players?
>>564830419You WILL be rehabilitated. You WILL be a functioning member of a functional society and you WILL be happy. You WILL fall in love with Sprite and you VILL love All-ages, unironically!https://vndb.org/v46543
>>564831931bro my favorite heroine is the type who'll selflessly provide sex aid to the entire basketball team to boost their performance
Do you have an all-agesfu, anon?
>>564831931Defend her?
>>564831928We need more capege
Do you like VNs where the MC uses hypnosis to turn girls into bimbos?
>>564831752the next umineko...
>>564832093I have been known to enjoy them but it's not my prime fetish.Mine is Attribute Theft. It's cold out here for me.
>>564831869>it's reali will real LiL now
>>564831928Capeslop is only liked by braindead normalfags though. Hell the average capeslop has more NTR than the entire medium combined.
i know it's played off as a joke but holy shit having a gf this clingy irl would be so annoying
>>564832034Sovl, i need to rewatch it
>rimjob in my moechu2gedisgusting
>>564830419Clannad
>>564832806It's conservative chud fantasy tho
i'm a noob, is there a website that quickly lets you see whether Steam releases are censored or uncensored?
review is uphttps://erogamescape.dyndns.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/memo.php?game=35435&uid=asteryukari
>>564832851Being conservative is natural for a man
>>564833043I still need to read Aster sometime
>>564833043wrong thread
>>564833098Guess that's why I want to be a woman
>>564832851Clannad is communist propagandait's an extreme idealization of asian collectivism
>>564833180kino.
>>564833043>81just okay not exactly kamige
legs
>>564809604True, that's off. Maybe he was drunk
>>564832474Marie said that sex with men doesn't count.
Where's the O-Ring thigh strap tho
Clannad normalizes patriarchal family values
>>564832034Would you let this gals run a train on your waifu?
>>564833914Good.
>>564832474how is that clingy, what
>>564833914Clannad was unironically elevated by the anime.Was it because it was an anime and anime is superior or something? No.It was because giving him a voice and having it be Nakamura really helped that character. If he was voiced in the VN it would naturally be superior
>>564833914based
>>564833657If Marie said that sucking 2 cocks at once is an extremely straight thing for a man to do would you do it?
I can't take anything seriously anymore. It's safer to play VNs while maintaining an ironic distance. It's not worth it to seriously engage with this dogshit medium because you'll be disappointed.
Could you defend your favorite heroine from a bunch of Rokuhara bandits?
>>564834075>himidk why I forgot the necessary antecedent of "Tomoya".Probably because I was talking out loud.
>>564834153>because you'll be disappointed.why?
>>564834125Yes, Marie is very trustworthy.
>>564833914Galge/eroge is patriarchal medium
>>564834164*grabs katana**slash the heads of 2 of them* *turn around while my blade describes an arc to cut the third one**throw my katana like a boomerang to decapitate the 4th and last one*>Anon-kun you were so cool, now let's have sex on top of their corpses>Yes my dear!
>bro is taking life advices from a Sei Shoujo characterGrim.
>>564834469Marie is an extremely successful businesswoman. Why wouldn't you listen to her advice?
we need incelkino
Umineko is so good.
>>564834789>me before the reading Chiru
Are there any moege with nymphomaniac heroines?
>>564834683Not him, but my advice remains still: kill yourself.
>>564834982Muramasa.
Am I a cuck if I don't like the heroine cheating on me but I'm okay with her asking for my permission when she wants to fuck other dudes and I'll allow her only if she agrees to either fuck them in front of me or she records the whole thing for me and she promises she'll forever be with me
I've seen a lot of posts like this one >>564737886 throughout the years and I have a suggestion: write your own NTRge. A lot of aspiring vn writers in the english community find it hard to work on a big project so they should just start with something easier. Write a short interesting NTRge that satisfies you more than the usual cliche ntrge plaguing the medium. Thoughts?
>>564835373Yeah, man. wtf
>>564835373Nah, you are just the average normal male.
>>564835548Isn't cuck someone who derives pleasure from the betrayal? I just don't want her to leave me and I also don't want to monopolize her sexuality so this is like a compromise where I don't feel left out or betrayed.
>NTRgeshit>netori gemeh>netori route in otherwise normal VNkino
>>564835669It's anyone who derives pleasure or excitement from their partner engaging in any romantic/sexual activity with someone other than yourself.
>>564835746So men in open relationships are cucks now? You make no sense.
>>564835839Does he derive pleasure from his wife fucking someone else?Or does he just accept that as part of the deal that lets himself sleep around?
>>564835898So if you enjoy your girl kissing another cute girl you're a cuck?
>>564834789MHBST
>>564834335kinounironically this is how Akane would've dealt with them.
>>564836017Is wife kissing gf naked on the bed while he's balls deep in one of them?Or is he jerking it from the closet?Or are you just going to ask another scenario without answering yet again?
>>564835898>Does he derive pleasure from his wife fucking someone else?There are different mindsets that result in the same behavior. A cuck derives pleasure from the idea of his girl betraying him and getting pleasured from someone that isn't him. My mindset is I don't want to be left out. That's why I want her to fuck in front of me or at least record the deed and if I derive pleasure it's most probably in the form "hey I'm watching porn of my gf in third person perspective". This is fundamentally not how cuckolds operate.
>>564823697Seitenkan was so good and I'm tired of pretending otherwise.
My favorite? Girl getting mind controlled and brainwashed and forced to fight her loved ones
cuck in denial
>>564836365Literally everyone has read a least one plotge with cuck scenes in it.
>>564836241girls that make this face on actual icecream on a date or something? is japan based enough
>>564836365I will be honest. I don't know how to reply to his last message. I'm not deep enough in the NTR research to properly respond to levels of intricacies he's working with.I almost feel defeated, but ultimately can just fall back on my "well if you get off to her fucking someone else, it's probably cuckoldry."
>>564836445Real humans can't make that face
>>564836365Denial? I'm literally a proud cuck lmao. I fapped to NTR every day
>>564836518sad
>>564836518im not asking for real humans.and it doens't have to be that extreme
>>564836445Girl's faces transforming into those of anteaters isn't erotic.
>>564836584Favorite non-cuck vn?
>>564833321>>564833527gachashit designs
I like NTR because I think it's the essence of human condition.
If you don't like NTR you are basically cucking yourself out of reading some of the best stuff from this medium. So either way you are still a cuck.
>>564836615Absolutely no cuck? Clannad
>>564833657I trust her. She's a very intelligent woman.
>Looks at ntr>First thing that comes to his mind is getting cuckedHoly insecurebetacuckmale can't self-insert as the bull.
OPPAI
>>564821070>I don't care anymore. Since she's so obsessed with her dad-brother, what if Kageaki just killed himself on the spot and rendered her stupid motivation pointless?You might be onto something there, haha...>>564821249>battle shonen in vn formThat's not Muramasa, though, sadly. Actual battle SEINEN in VN form would be something wild and kino like Tokyo NECRO or Hanachirasu where characters don't stand in front of each other for 30 minutes while deliberating on their next move.>>564823729>>564829183In my opinion, "the law of balance" has undeniable value as a philosophical viewpoint on life and death, but Muramasa simply takes it to its utmost extremes in order to drive the point it's trying to bring across home.It's true that each person has good and bad qualities to them, even a maniacal mass murderer isn't 100% evil with no redeeming qualities whatsoever, I disagree however with the idea that his death would be indistinguishable from that of an innocent child from a moral standpoint, as Muramasa tries to paint it.
>>564836735the tie is in the pai
>>564836518>>564836590they can but it looks more like the pink asaface>>564836613I used to think that too, but uhh...
>>564836735lol gachashit design
>>564836769Tokyo Necro was dogshit though
Any VN for this feel
>>564836365Let's say the heroine begs you to let her sexually console her depressed friend who happened to be a dude. They are both childhood friends and he needs her to recover. Are you cruel and selfish enough to deny her?
>>564836830Maybe if you're a 50yo american housewive.
>>564836838Hentai Prison
>>564836852i think you really need to write a ge with your fantasies bro
>>564836852A real man would offer his anus to the childhood friend.
>>564817029do you know of any scans of the psp port booklet anywheresupposedly this is where he said some stuff about the "unfinished" nature of the game but i cant find it anywhere for the fucken life of me
>>564836838umineko
Is Muramasa the best ntr work of the medium?
>>564836959Fate mogs
https://vndb.org/t22608/2when the game discussion is more HFK than the game
>>564836930If I'm ever making a VN it'll be mmf romance kino where the dudes are gay for each other without realizing it
>>564836959Objectively it's Gatenkei
>>564837083redditor melty
Does it count as NTR if a girl says she finds a dude hot?
It's time to settle it once and for all.What is the best NTR work of the medium that is English translated non MTL.
>>564837083>vn fans accusing each other of being virginsKek, do they have no self-awareness?
>>564837191I don't even hate black people but they really only look ok with black or white hair
>>564837276Kedamono. Also the translation is better than the Jap text so you must read it in English.
>>564837292Anon that's Samson, the last Judge. He's a jew.
>>564837321>7.12Nyo.
I don't think i've ever played a non-nukige where the heroine unironically cucks you of her own will. Maybe rakuen counts but that's about it.
>>564837363based
>>564837398>heroineIf any of the girls present in the story got raped at any point in their life(even if it's only in the past) then it's cuckshit.
>>564837485What if a heroine is a widow?
>>564837485Who the fuck cares what non-heroine sluts doThey can go enjoy night long gangbang sessions for all I care
i gonna rop sakuuta
>>564837548cycka blyat
>>564837537All women present in a visual novel world are mine and mine alone.
>>564836663What sociage is this?
>>564837083honsetly whole "key sucks at h-scenes" argument is so maeda x hinoue era. Obviously when key girls where all ugly abominations without sex appeal and maeda's inability to write sex into the story without cringe argument that "Key doesn't need H" made sence.But now, when they finally have normal artist, now that Kai who wrote fucking Hoshiori with 10 h-scenes per route is writing scenario and Niijima with array of eroge under his belt writing main heroine parts, Key H-scenes actually have chance to be good and fappable.Ao from SP as an example, were normal moege heroine trapped in all-ages safe title. In any other circumstances she would fucked five times in her route.
>>564837639>she would fucked five times in her route.2 times with the mc, 3 times with OTHERS
>>564837639
Key heroines come across as prudes
uh oh, keydrones melty
Aren't keys used to open doors?
Key is shit anyway. Nostalgia crap.
I can't imagine nagisa having sex
>>564837941with you or with others?
>Muh sad ending heroine is saved by le magicKeytroons slop this shit up lmao.Play Yuzuge for real vns.
>>564837980with anyoneHer mom gives off slut vibes tho
If I were a heroine I would only make love to others. Sorry anons, you just can't compete.
>>564816626Frankly, it's just that VNs are not very fun. Nobody with long-term experience in the genre is reading VNs most of the time. Everyone has their limit where they've played most of the greats and what remains is excruciatingly boring moege. It is what it is.
Saya no Uta but instead of the climax being a plan to turn all humans into fuckable meat is to turn all males into futanari
>>564837941Bro... she gives birth...
>>564838064Turn all females into futanari too.
>>564838059>Nobody with long-term experience in the genre is reading VNs most of the time.Moeanon...
>>564838064sca_ji....
keyhaters are some of the gayest posters ITT
>>564838162IDBLT
>>564838097Virgin birth is a thing you know
>>564838059Lessons in Love fans get to have fun reading VNs every month.
>>564838119what are the cocks supposed to symbolize in his works?
My penis has been getting bigger recently even after puberty
>>564838162>keyfags are homophobic pieces of shit
>>564838216>50k words every monthIs text quality good? Can't imagine anyone keeping up with editing their shit at such fast pace
>>564838375Yeah, naturally. The guy just has a natural talent for writing.
>>564838162
>>564838375>is patreonsloppa good?KEK
>>564838418lol
>>564838375He has proofreaders.
Clannad has a lot of homophobic jokes
>>564838465maedafags will defend this with "it's from a different era bro" as if we're talking about 1960s
>>564838362Why are you gay
>>564838465picked up
>>564838059Then why are you posting here even? The greats my ass. It's about finding the topics, characters, or kinks appealing to you not checking a dumb and rigged rating list. There are 50000 titles to choise from.
>>564837738uncbroski, even if hinoue art is your favourite you can't deny that her heroines are unfuckablelike would you fuck misuzu? maybe nayuki? or nagamori?Also despite key immense popularity in late 1990s her art was the most criticized thing about them in japan. when they released ONE it became a hit because of Hisaya's writing, not because of art
>>564837083uwa. I cant be bothered reading that shit and im surprised you can
>>564839057Ask ai to summarize it
>>564838059quof, is this guy(or girl, there are quite a lot of highly rated BL shit there) part of cartel? has insane long list(more than hadler&moogy) with some cartel kamige mixed in.Or it's just an ancient jop without connections to cartel?https://vndb.org/u288581
>>564838375it's his full-time job and he treats it like one, and pushes himself to get better at it constantly. he's not complacent pushing out slop and will do things like writing an entire lengthy scene as a rhyming dialogue poem just because it's thematically appropriate
This general is for the discussion of English-translated Japanese visual novels.>This general is for the discussion of English-translated Japanese visual novels.This general is for the discussion of English-translated Japanese visual novels.>This general is for the discussion of English-translated Japanese visual novels.This general is for the discussion of English-translated Japanese visual novels.>This general is for the discussion of English-translated Japanese visual novels.
>>564839020>There are 50000 titles to choise from.And 99.99% of them suck. Almost every single VN vet abandons the genre for long after playing the top 0.01% of games, because basically all others are boring. It used to be that VNs were a fusion of novels and gameplay, but eventually the genre attracted shitters looking to pump out cheap games so they dropped the gameplay, without realizing that it takes incredible writing skill to make a game good based on its text alone. And most VNs, despite being text-centric, have bland writing, often put together by a team of 5 to 15 disparate writers of varying but overall low ability. If you're so indignant you must be new yourself; nobody experienced would think to dispute this. Chasing "topics" and "kinks" that appeal to you is hardly a lasting strategy when even then the vast majority of games even all but designed to suit your tastes and fetishes are still bloated wastes of time with soul-suckingly boring text crafted by a committee not a skilled author. Nobody lasts with VNs.
>>564839341JOPs would be very upset at this if they could read.
>>564839178>with some cartel kamige mixed inNo shit you end up having read some obscure shit when you've read over 600 VNs
If you want your VN to not be boring, just add more oppai
>>564839178Ancient JOP without connections to the cartel
>>564839178He likes everything lol
>>564839453This, but extremely flat lolis.
>>564839508Based visual novel enjoyer.
>>564839453This but lolis and pubes.
>>564839341
Yurige with male mc?
>>564839368>every single VN vet abandons the genre for long after playing the top 0.01%Made-up stats not worth discussing
>>564839553an enjoyer would actually understand what makes a vn good and would probably have higher standards.
After reading the mysterykinokamiplotges and 3 or 4 other vns, there's no point reading anything else.Just move on to gachas since they're vns but with good gameplay.
>>564839895You're pretentious and retarded if you actually think like that.
>>564840038Isn't it true though? Wouldn't someone that loves vns distinguish between good stuff and generic stuff? Is that considered pretentious? I thought people liked to use their brains while reading ge.
Notice that while NA is asleep, there's much less shitposting or replies to shitposts and instead actual legit discussion happens?Really makes you think, huh...
>>564839178>Muramasa 7>Umineko 7He disliked both of our kamige...
>>564839368>Almost every single VN vet abandons the genre for long after playing the top 0.01% of gamesOur three JOPs are the biggest slop eaters so this doesn't apply to them
>>564840189No, you just don't understand what enjoyment means.
>>564839289buy an ad
>>564840292>Lessons in Love 7>Katawa Shoujo 7.5kek
>>564840313Idk, I feel like I enjoy a vn way more when I actually think about what it achieves rather than> uwa kawaii girls, uwa sunny days, uwa nice sol, *sniff* sad backstory
>>564839368>says the retard who still hasn't read steins;gate>>564840313wasting your life on consuming slop is very enjoyable, you just expect people to grow out of it eventually and get some standards
>>564840360Why don't you?
>>564840496dev isn't paying me for paid review or shilling his patreon scam on chinese forums
Katan's route was great, I'm surprised they recommended it as the first route.
I think >we can all agree that BISHOP should't be allowed to make a vn ever again.
>>564840292He said that Umineko would've been 10 if he read it on-going. I kinda see what he means, r07 ge work well with discussion aspect. it's probably a lot more fun to talk about wtf happens in Hinamizawa or who the fuck is Beatrice than just reading all episodes at once
>>564840496Idk if I can trust Hiro's statistics >Age: 18-34>Gender: ~70% male, ~30% female>Location: United States (47%), United Kingdom (7%), Canada (6%), Australia (4%), Germany (4%)>Interests: Japanese culture, anime, manga, video games, comics, technology, music, movies>Education: Majority attended or currently enrolled in collegeIs this true?
>>564840803>30% femaletoo high
>>564840471>>564840485>he doesn't enjoy visual novels because, unlike me, he actually likes what he readsYou're retarded.
>>564839341JOPs are the best posters here.
>>564840934Best at being the dumbest.
>>564840873>reading comprehension
https://vndb.org/v20515Someone translate it using one of the most advanced LLMs or some shit. I don't understand how AI works.Thanks.
>>564840803>>564840870Only 30% of those 30% females are actually "female", the other 60% are "fail males".
>>564840706Yeah but they still have shit endings lol.
>Playing a visual novel without voice acting in the year 2020+6 of our LordHmm, nyo.
>>564840984>reading comprehensionRight back at you.>>564839508>>564839553>>564839895>he enjoys everything lol>nooo a trve enjoyer is a jaded fuck like me who rates a single VN 10/10 and hates everything elseYou dislike that he's more of a VN enjoyer than you are despite your desperate elitist sentiments.
>>564840934Best at reading NTR
>>564839508Except good VNs
>>564841126Who are you kidding you don't read vinnies regardless, anon.
>>564839368/vn/ is too delusional to understand this post
>>564840873I never said that though? Are you ok bro?
>>564840616the vndb mods were right to be skeptical since it got a bunch of high ratings from new accounts back then, but that was just a bunch of people who accidentally found out about vns while looking for 3d porn on itch. their opinions don't matter to us (and in 2020 the game did actually suck, the start of it got rewritten later) but they weren't paid for either
>>564841283>the start of it got rewritten laterlmao
>>564840706It'd probably be an added bonus, but the novels were still incredible when I read them in one go ~10 years ago.There was still plenty of discourse to have back then even after the series were conmpleted.
>>564840993I think that one is actually gonna get AI'd soon>>564841126I kneel, broccoliGod
>>564841283>they weren't paid for eitheryes they were, this was actually exposed. you might cope but saying that the dev doesn't need to pay for reviews anymore, but that won't change the past
>>564840993No, seriously. Do I have to buy a 5090 to translate vns locally or what? I have a lot I want to play but no translation.
>>564841331You just have shit taste
>>564840621best bro potential
>>564841401You have low IQ.
>>564841354proof?
>>564841442hidoi that's something I can't do anything about
Move:>>564841616>>564841616>>564841616
>page 8
>>564841167Bro? No shit he enjoys the vns he reads. I used the word "enjoyer" as a substantive meant to represent an experienced vn fan. If you/'ve read 100 nakige and then you proceed to read the 101th one that has nothing original going for it and just reuses elements from the past ones but you still think it's a 10/10 then maybe you have a very unrefined taste.
>>564841331>but the novels were still incredibleHigurashi has a shit ending. You can somehow cope about Umineko's ending but not about Higu's one.
>>564841308Eh, it's normal part of writing process.In JVNs we just don't see writers rewriting their shit because they're not episodic.Like, it's a known fact that Moon "route" in Rewrite was rewritten twice from scratch and Kagari's actions and personality were different in every draft
>>564841795>Didn't read the console arcsYou didn't finish Higurashi, therefore your opinion has no value.
>>564841817SHITwrite was garbage so toss it in as honorary EVN
>>564841795It's certainly the weakest part, but not "shit" by any means.
>>564841874I've read this https://vndb.org/v68 and it was shit.
>>564842235It kind of ruined it for me and chapter 7 was not that much better either.
>>564842235unfortunately so many people praise r07 as the greatest writer in human history that we have no choice but to denounce his mediocrity as shit
>>564842238>8.83 average>shitWhy do nu"fans" feel such a desperate need to hate on old otaku culture?You can see this with key and with type-moon as well.
>>564842534>type-shit
>>564842534Everyone wants to be a special snowflake nowadays and stand out with their unique opinions.
>>564842396Chapter 7 was amazing though.Finally getting to the bottom of the mystery, breaking through the cycle of fate with the help of everyone and then losing all of it again when Takano coldly executed our young heroes and ushered in the Great Hinamizawa Holocaust. Easily one of the most memorable endings.Hollow (Uro/虚) was the perfect track for that scene.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQjwwjSUpZE
>>564842534i've been hating on him for 15 years
>>564842618>>564842534>implying people weren't complaining about it back then as well
Episode 8 is dogshit desu.
>>564843251Of course, that's why it became one of the most popular visual novels with a 50+ episodes anime adaptation, multiple FDs and OVAs and dozens of artists who wanted to contribute to it and its sequel (for free).Contrarians always existed, but you newfags are trying to rewrite decades of otaku history here lol.
>>564839026I would fuck Mayu
>>564843473things aren't good just because they're popular
>>564843606You can stop trying so hard to fit in. Retards are always welcome.
>>564839368>5 to 15 disparate writersThat would be outrageous these days. Present and future is more like a single indie writer pairing with an artist, or realistically stock or AI art and BGM.
>>564843473>popular=goodcattle
>>564843606>>564843776>p-people complained about it being shit back then!!>a-actually it doesn't matter if it was popular, that doesn't mean anything!!Keep moving goalposts, goyim.
>>564843859Based, fuck moebutas.
>>564843859what are you doing engaging with this medium when you could be reading harry potter
>>564843473There are plenty of popular things made after 2000 that were seen as shit by the hardcore otaku fanbase though. I don't even understand why this makes you angry. Isn't it better to discuss about a vn without taking its past into consideration? just use actual arguments to defend Higu's ending.
>>564844176You still haven't read the actual ending by playing the console arcs. Your opinion still means nothing to me.
>>564843964what are you doing engaging with this medium when you could be reading hunger games
>>564844265I've read the ending of Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Kai
>>564841624>dull thread>page 8uhm nyo
>>564844176A post mindlessly declaring something as "shit" doesn't warrant a serious reply.You could try using actual arguments to criticize it instead of moving goalposts and making up stuff.
>>564844313Exactly, you're retarded. But I already knew that.
>>564844176trvker07 is trash
>>564844378Stop describing yourself bro. Sorry that the ending is shit, maybe r07 can learn how to write better lol.
>>564844535But enough about Nitro Plus.
https://x.com/i/status/2048346176026796068God has spoken.
>higurashi teaches its fanbase how to be better men>they still have meltdowns if you don't like their vinniesWhy is that?
>>564844576trvke
>>564844646You can stop arguing with yourself now.Higurashi and Umineko are the peak of the medium btw.
>>564844859But enough about Nukitashi and Hentai Prison.
>>564844643it's funny because all those becomes F tier once you read your first kamige
>>564844942Name three kamiges. Impossible mode, from three different studios.
>>564845342steins;gate muramasa subahibi
>>564845491yes, hell no, yes2/3
>>564845491>3 closet gay gamesI'd rather hear out the YuzuGod.
>>564844859K1 wouldn't stand for this.
>>564845725buhiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
After reading Umineko you've already experienced everything vns can offer.
>>564844643More like retards have spoken. That tier list is laughably bad
>>564844359>You could try using actual arguments to criticize itI've already criticized multiple times in the past in this very general though. >and making up stuff. Dumb newfag.
>>564846523Post yours or your favourite heroine dies in her sleep tonight.
steins shit lost
Umineko won, Steins;Gate won, Subahibi won, mysteryplotge won.Moeshit lost, mumbaimasa lost.
>>564846841>mysteryplotge wonOnly those with good endings.
>>564847056so none of them? kek
>>564847056so all of them?
Uminegro lost, trannycord lost.
>>564841360There's lots of different ways to do it. And lots of retarded ways to do it, too. It's better to wait for someone to do it for you and judge it by its quality. You can try to do it yourself but you're in for a long-ass time learning how. It's not braindead easy.
>>564846841MHBST
negromasa lost
>>564849327but enough about how to bake threads
uminegro lost
>>564829183Muramasa does say that, but her and hikarus actions and other dialogue suggest and support the might makes right principle. I can't remember the exact points in the vn where this is covered, i wanna say muramasas route? But yeah I do agree hikarus motivation was retarded af and one of the bad points of muramasa. She was difficult to take seriously as a villain. Muramasa II was just going along with hikaru and didn't really care about what happens as she abandoned the principles of their father according to muramasa III after growing disillusioned with law of balance not doing anything to stop humans from waging war with each other and said 'fuck it let humans do w/e they want and im gonna do what I want. The strongest will emerge on top. If hikaru wins then so be it, it doesn't concern me'
test>>737690814
>>564841817>Moon "route" in Rewrite was rewritten twice from scratchSource
>>564852573>Muramasa II was just going along with hikaru and didn't really care about what happens as she abandoned the principles of their father according to muramasa III after growing disillusioned with law of balance not doing anything to stop humans from waging war with each otherThis is wrong, but Muramasa is retarded and inconsistent anyways so I don't feel like correcting you.
