[PoE 1]>3.28 Patch Noteshttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/patch-notes>Compiled links, tools and utilitieshttps://pastebin.com/SHt8unCt[PoE 2]>Druidshttps://pathofexile2.com/druids>Ongoing 0.4 patch noteshttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/2212Previous Page 10: >>564565156
POE1 wonPOE2 wonWe all won
>>564821510No, I want to be miserable and argue with random people who are also all the same guy.
>>564821574
I have 800 hours in poe2 I genuinely hate this game. It's a broken casino simulator. Campaign is shit, melee is shit, crafting is shit, defenses is shit. Fuck your garbage Vision. the game simply broken
>>564822167Stop playing it then?
>>564822167Take your shattered anus to /d4g/, retard
>>564822167>melee is shit
>>564823821Alright, now divide it by taking infinitely longer to reach enemies.
>>564823952I don't think you've ever seen reave of refraction played, have you? the aoe is quite a bit bigger than you think it is
>>564823821you know he said poe2 right
>>564824043no I can't read
Can't wait to play whirling assault chayula again
>both Duelist and Shadow come out in 0.5You can only leaguestart one. Choose.
>>564824619Shadow all day. Give me a dagger or claw that shoots lightning.
>>564824619>ShadowNah
>>564824619fuck
https://pobb.in/2WCG-Mm9PNC7wanted to go something really tanky so I could just have fun and faceroll at the end of the league, I don't think I've ever played something this durablepretty fun just clicking once and annihilating a screen too. can't figure out how to get dot cap without a shit tincture though
>Svalinn
>>564825171well yeah, every other shield option doesn't even come close for defenseit's got 90 all res and a shit ton of armor and es regen so it covers the things that get through block
comparison is the thief of joy
>>564824619I don’t think we’ll get Shadow. He has artwork but no new description, and there is no mention of daggers or traps. Meanwhile, the other three characters have both new artwork and a new description, as well as a mention of weapon skills.
>>564825320temples printing 500d/hr is the thief of joy
>he is a jingakh
>>564824619Templar, with swords.
>>564825107sis ur crit immunity?nice build i almost want to copy it
>>564827058I ran a map with ghosted shrined 80% vruun earlier with crit on the map and he didn't get my es past 75% so, I don't think it's neededit's been very fun, the clear is a bit slow tho, needs more explode
>>564826556All threeDuelist, Templar and Marauder
>>564827253marauder looks 'tarded
GGG has decided to completely obliterate Diablo 4 by releasing all missing classes, ascendancies and Act 5
>>564827648but what will 1.0 have then
>>564828005Act 6 and secret Ascendancy (like Abyssal Lich) for each class
cringe
>>564828005finetuning everything + more general content and maybe storyline expansion in endgame.
>>564828005F2PThat alone will be enough to attract fuckload of people.
>>564824619huntress
Why are there so many dudes?
any other leaks and datamines besides this >>564804386 and the artworks of the classes found on poe2db?
>>564827648you can't kill the need normies have for Thing They Vaguely Remember.
>>564830190Poedb lists the ascendancies for the three unreleased classes and Druid. There are also a couple of skills. We also know three more ascendancies for monk, ranger and huntress: Martial Artist, Arcane Archer and Wild Caller
>>564830545thanks! its interesting that theyve listed the ascendancies for all classes except for shadow, makes me think that theyre coming sooner. Also anything about the league mechanic besides that its maybe focused on breach?
>>564830838>its maybe focused on breachwho said this?
you know despite having two of these fuckin things I can't figure out how to fit them into any of my builds
>>5648310416 reckless defence jewels + that trathus belt
>>564830135there are three dudes and three dudettes thobeiteverything on the right is just a class/alternate life of the 6 characters in the left column.
>>564830973honestly dont know how credible this leak is but ive seen multiple people post about ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyAIQn88-HUhonestly im hoping for legion or something new thats an in map mechanic
Why is PoE2 so shitEven after years of bleeding my eyes with PoE1 I still prefer it over the other garbage
>>564831749dees leeks is too yoosy señor i cannot handle eet
>>564830190Kelly_GGG just tweeted this:>Many birbs…along with a photo of three black birds.One player asked her:>How many birds are we talking about?And she replied :>There is many and too much and a lot more i reckonWhat if this isn’t just a random photo, but another subtle teaser from Kelly_GGG?Why this looks like a strong hint for Einhar and Bestiary returning:>In the very first Path of Exile 2 trailer from 2019, you can see a figure that looks a lot like Einhar running/chasing alongside the player . Many players noticed this detail back then. Even though he hasn’t appeared in the game yet, the Hunting Grounds area (where Crowbell is located) was clearly designed with him in mind and has remained in Act 1 all this time as if it’s still waiting for its Beastmaster.>Hunting Grounds (Act 1) is already full of references There is a Bestiary symbol on the gate near the Crowbell area.The boss The Crowbell itself is a large bird-like creature covered in nets and wounds from arrows (Einhar in PoE 1 famously uses a crossbow and nets).>Einhar's Beastrite (Lineage Support Gem added in 0.3)The gem’s flavour text directly references Einhar:>"You must cut the beast, like this," he told the wide-eyed and forgetful woman. "The juiciest parts are in the middle!"She nodded, and began relearning the way of the wildsThis sounds like preparation for the full return of the Bestiary mechanic (including the Blood Altar) and the introduction of a new NPC who is relearning how to hunt under Einhar’s guidance.>Kelly's answer about a lot of birds hints that there will be a lot of animals that will need to be caught.Everything lines up too well: the old trailer detail, the Bestiary symbol, the bird boss with nets, the gem’s lore, and now this tweet.What do you think, exiles?
>>564832110>300 second headhunter buffsman I really miss self curse hh days
>>564832110HOT TAKEthey will release bestiary league in the same patch that Huntress gets her third (Wildcaller, companions) ascendency.
>>564832005because it's still young and doesn't have 14 years of content updates and fine tuning under its belt. most people here aren't old enough to remember at this point, but poe 1's first 2 years were hot garbage where each leagues was just adding basic ass content like strongboxes or rogue exiles. the first "real" leagues in path of exile started with Talisman which was just over two years after release.
>>564832110sick more dogshit endgame chasesupports that make no sense in a game where 99% of supports make your default attack character objectively worse how about this... a BETTER PASSIVEL tree... that you have to chase down in a tub of shit
>>564832005it isn't it's already better than poe1poe1 just has more goals to check off once you're farming the highest level of content. if poe2 had achievements it would probably add an extra month to the typical autist's playtime.
>>564824619shadow unless they scrap the parryslop duelist
>>564832582>if poe2 had achievements it would probably add an extra month to the typical autist's playtime.you mean the annoying challenges people still buy for divines? look at the price of doryani's map
>>564832727yes 100%people literally farm level 100 in both games for no reason other than because its something to do
I played a shockwave cyclone build this league and when shit was going down i couldn't even tell what was happening. My vision would lose focus and it'd be like the end of 2001 a space odyssey. I'll agree with people that say the game has gone too far because i can't even tell whats going on and shockwave must be one of the lowest visual clutter builds
>>564832353You're comparing GGG being a few bros in a garage to modern-day GGG with over a decade of experience. I'm embarrassed for you.
>>564832920whenever I play one of my mapper builds I don't pay attention to the screen I just vaguely look at where the map goes and then look at the monsters remainingkinda silly nowadays, but still very entertaining
>>564832985nta but the increase in the amount of work and money it takes to just make game assets has affected the whole industry over the same time period. AAA studios all closed because the baseline cost for "good graphics" went up too much. and those games are all simply designed slop for gamer dads.
>>564832920>>564832986this is literally the core of the poe1 v poe2 debate lmaoone group of players wants to actually interact with fantasy content on the screen and another literally only wants to be troubled with the items that clear their loot filter.
>>564833224So true, sis. Don't look at the most popular builds every league in PoE 2.
>>564833224path is an arpg at its core, almost entirely based off of diablo 2, loot is entirely the focus of the game alongside making your character stronger and doing crazier shitleave sloprolling to the pros
>>564833224People want to go fast because the base gameplay isn't that exciting and its the easiest way to increase returns. So it all accelerates to the fastest builds possible. You can play a slow build but no one really wants to play a slow build, which is why no one actively chooses to be slow. GGG should really try and put a reasonable cap on how much bullshit you get but conversely people want content that challenges their build. The whole thing is unwinnable. they should just kill any build with more than 50m dps and cap movespeed to like 100%
>>564832985yea and it shows. the first few leagues in poe 2 have been massively better than early poe 1, but the fact remains that they run a live service game and have a content release schedule, and you're going to get a slow drip of it for years before poe 2 feels even remotely as well rounded and content-rich as poe 1.
>>564834096if you want a start to finish snorefest go play grim yawn. the mark of a good arpg is that progression climb from slow shitter to teleport-spamming screen-clearing god. diablo 2 set the standard. poe 2's biggest issue right now after lack of endgame content is said progression structure. it's too sloggy all around, but especially through acts.
>>564834098As it should be. I'm not here to stroke GGG's cock and ego.
>>564834096Going fast is necessary in any game where you have to grind. Slow gameplay makes sense only if you kill 1 very strong enemy and he drops a million things.
>>564832389>Socket all these weird on kill effects into default attack and use it at ten percent of enemie's lifeBravo, now I have some random buffs and charges for a minute that won't help at a boss fight or else.
>>564832110who cares, do we have pics of kelly ideally with feet
What software creates these? I need me some ds larry troon porn
>>564833224there's nothing really good about poe2 thoughyou shouldn't even want to interact with it, it sucks dick
first level 100 ever in poethe changes they made this league are great, game is actually fun without requiring constant map and inventory management bullshit
>>564833224What does that have to do with the mods in poe1 being shit? That's the one thing they chose not to fix for years. Fuck reflect damage on a random enemy when you clear screens in 1 click.
>>564822167Yeah, I'm thinking based
>>564822167It's a shitty action game with the veneer of an rpg. All the stats are watered down. They did a good job of turning poe into a d4like
>>564825107I think most of these go aegis with incandescent heart
Is there a way to make my second weapon set use the same actual weapons as my first weapon set? I'm doing shit with reduced/increased skill duration, but does that mean I actually need two proper weapons in order for moves I want to have longer durations to not fall off instantly?
is this a tradie mental disorder? how do you reach a point in your life where you are compelled to do this?
>>564844795Youtubers need to make a living somehow out of literally 0 poe 2 anything like those absolute subhumans keep posting fucking videos about "league starters" 1 month before patch notes
>>564844795Speedrunning autism overlaps more heavily with ssf autism tbqh.
>>564844795Bro, you gotta spend 100 hours learning the campaign so you can be 2 hours faster at league launch. Don't think about it too much.
>>564821510>poe2 >winning You don't have to start coping until AFTER 1.0
>throw a bunch of t16 8 mods into kingsmarch>8 chaos orbs>4 exalts Oh is this some kind of trap?
>>564844795campaign is the best part of the game
>>564844795its more respectable than the "screen blow up while I watch netflix" style.
>>564834096>>564835356hopefully they're going to help us customize the content to fit either style with the new atlas tree. monster effectiveness is promising as a mechanic even if I doubt the game will ever be "challenging" in trade league.
>>564847038Honestly they need to put actual content in maps, not random diversion bullshit. Most maps I just slap in some shit tier waystone and blast through it as fast as possible so I can juice more pinnacle boss maps. If you aren't doing a giga rarity stack then normal maps aren't worth anything at all, nothing will drop.On that note. Fuck rarity as a mechanic, it sucks so bad.
>>564847390I've been so focused on gem levels I completely forgot about the rarity issue in 2. Didn't they address they weren't happy about the current state of rarity in one of the dev streams? In 0.3 it wasn't a big deal since crafting was so strong but I remember not hitting 150 IIR other leagues felt like shit
>>5648480430.4 wasn't a meaningful baseline for comparison either because everyone was farming temples.its unsurprising that ggg would still be figuring out how hard/rewarding they want trade league to be given that its only been frictionless for two leagues. that was always going to make the game feel easier and the loot that dropped feel worse. that doesn't mean the solution is more loot.
>>564844795lmao ssf is way more autistically trans, i figure you fags have never held a job and just inject estrogen with mommy’s money all day long
The loot system needs to be redesigned. It sucks that they just copied poe1, they should accept that its best that games are different.The amount of loot that drops should be reduced by 90% and everything else should be rebalance that to fit it, if you cant see how that would be better you are not thinking hard enough.
>>564824619Shadow with Swords
uh oh tradie melty
>>564831749
>>564849795>they just copied poe1they didn't though loldid you miss the rarity rebalance in 0.2?
>>564850793They copied poe1 in the worst ways and added shitty bandaids. Gear shouldnt have tier 1 -5 bullshit, there's too much loot dropping, game design relies on third party filter, its bad. No one would want to design a game with loot system in this state. Poetards are just used to the ways things are and defend status quo.
Sup bros, looking for advice about Poe2How do you transition your build from campaign to maps better, what loot do you pick from ground during campaign, how do you set up your early filter?
>>564837640Grok
>>564851860follow a build guide if you already did your first run blind, it teaches you better than anyone can tell you here, each build scales multiple things at once through gear, tree and ascendancy, one build can scale from stats the next can be a unique item the next can be the ascendancy or all 3, for poe2 gear is more important and more powerful than poe1, also look at the gems and the tags at the top of them scale the tags with the tree and weapon you have its multiple layers.
Hey I'm trying to play PoE on the ps5 for the first time, the i still loading screen has been lasting for over three hours so far. Should I try closing the app? According to the internet the game takes a really long time to set up shades on the ps5 and I feel like I've seen this happen in a different timeline before and that closing the game doesn't seem like the right idea. Anyway to make this game load faster?
>>564852729>the i still loadingMeant to type "initial loading screen"
>>564852729>Anyway to make this game load faster?Buy a PC
>>564852994My old desktop died and I bought a ps5, any other advice?
>>564853221POE and POE2 are giga cpu intensive, they need to shader comp and drop high end gpu cpu combo's to below 30fps when you endgame, the game is highly unoptimised in my opinion and it could be due to the in house engine they have made for the game even with the upgrade they have made for it for poe2, shader comps are normal it takes forever to load, it shouldnt however take 3 hours to load close the game and restart it, it should never take longer than a couple minutes, make sure you are using a good SSD at least for the game
>>564849795unfortunately they didn't copy poe1, because poe1 actually has a useful currency, itemization, and crafting system that makes end game worth engaging in
>>564853509I hope you're not pranking me I'm scared to close the game.
>>564851362explain to me why you think you shouldn't need a filter? Do you think everything that drops should be worth picking up? Congratulations, you now just made items worthless like D4. There has to be some worthless junk on the floor because you are meant to search out the good stuff
>>564853509I tried closing it just now and its back to being stuck loading I hope I didn't waste those three hours it already loaded for.
>>564853774>>564853959do you think we all wait 3+ hours before each league for the game to load into the main menu?
>>564854002The internet said it only takes a long time the first time you play the game.
>>564852729shaders take drive space, make sure your drive isn't too full3h is way too long.
>>564854101shaders recompile everytime there is a new nvidia driver update for PC i never wait that long its a few minutes at most
>>564851362dude green arrow go up lmao
>>564854146I have 147gb of free space should that be enough?
>>564854361Remember that SSDs need about 20-25% of free space to operate at full speed, otherwise things slow down.
>>564854602Should I delete something? I haven't had this issue with other games.
>>564853509>>564853221compared to 0.1 its night and day on my potato PC, I'm sure the optimizers will reach the PS5 eventually.
>>564854787most games companies do literally anything to avoid the procedural-generation problem that poe2 smashes into with its forehead. why do you think D4 has you fight generic-looking demons in copy-pasted dungeon layouts from level 1 to 100.
birb
>>564855468Big if true
>>564853887Loot filter is primarily there to fix the problem with a bad system, a bandaid. there shouldnt be a million items dropping and needing to filter out 99% of them to have semi decent experience. > There has to be some worthless junk on the floor because you are meant to search out the good stuffyou cant be such a rat in the maze to not realize it shouldnt be the way it is. There is some junk on the floor even in every incarnation of diablo 3 or diablo 4, and theyre playable without lootfilter. Diablo 2 is also playable without lootfilter. It should be just a cherry on top, just like when loot filter is added to d2 and d4 now.
>>564854286youre literally braindead if you cant imagine anything in between.
>>564855969there arent "a million" and you don't filter out 99% of them. You keep making the same assertion.I'll ask again - why do you think you shouldn't need a filter?
>>564856171The game shouldnt be designed around a loot filter, loot filter itself isnt a problem but a symptom. The game should be playable without a loot filterr, get that through your head. The experience should still be tolerable without one. Kind of like how you can still play WoW without addons.
>>564856323You keep saying "should". This is just an assertion. I would like you to try to explain why you think that is correct. You can do that yes? Without just restating your assertion? Come on anon, I know you have to some marbles rolling around up there
>>564856450You are not using your marbles or any critical thinking. You like loot filter because it fixes a problem and the game would otherwise be unplayable for you. The game should be playable without a loot filter. You disagree or you dont like that i said "should" ? Have you responded with anything that isnt a braindead assertion of how you like filtering items cuz filter exists? retard.
>>564853887>There has to be some worthless junk on the floor because you are meant to search out the good stuff>has to be>meantWhy do you need a loot filter for this to be true in the game? That is already the case in every ARPG. No, every item isnt worth picking up in D4 or D3 either.
>>564856760All you keep doing is restating your assertion. You have provided no reasoning for why you think a loot filter is 'bad'. Only "i dont like it so it shouldn't be like that".Poe has a ton of item classes. It has a ton of content. In order to engage with that content as you go up in tiers of map, you need a loot filter to disregard all the old stuff you no longer need. Some people in SSF use different filters, and the presence of filters gives people the flexibility to look for certain items other people don't need. In games with less content this is less necessary because there aren't things like scarabs, jewels, dozens of currency items, etc, that drop along with the items. They dont NEED a loot filter because they aren't as content rich.Some people, probably like you, consider this 'bloat', but it is one of the things that gave poe its' staying power, and provides people with 1000s of hrs of enjoyment because they can search out specific scarabs/content etc, that other people might filter out. The loot filter enables the game to expandNow I'd like you to explain, since you haven't done so yet, why you think ggg SHOULD get rid of that content variety?
>>564851362It's actually genuinely insane that people defend so much loot dropping that your game lags out if you show all, but 99% of it is trash
I'd rather have rare drops that are likely to bring something of value than an endless showers of utter garbage to the point you need loot filter to be even able to click on the ground without picking something.
"Games shouldn't need to filter out the vast majority of the shit in them" is an incontrovertible universal truth that does not need justification.
>>564857117your brain is genuinely fried from Poe, youre so used to it that you cant imagine anything else.Let me speak in examples: Basically right now 100 items drop, and 1 is useful. It would be better instead that 10 items drop instead and 9 are trash. Parsing 10 items is more reasonable without a filter than parsing 100 items.Even if your argument is that you want to target specific type of item, well most of them will be trash too. How about you drop 10 times less of those items, but all of those that do drop are tier 5 rares instead?How about tiers are removed, and all rares that drop cull buttom tier affixes, while also removing affix bloat,You will say that it will be too easy to find good items then - you can adjust drop rate so they're sufficiently rare, Result: less items dropping, more exciting for items that do drop.Remove all regal shard, wisdom scroll shit and other items that are intended only to bloat the loot table in the endgame. or lesser jewelers orbs and other junk.Youll say: "not enough junk". False even if all rares were Tier5 most of them will turn out junk , there will still be a lot of junk.Genuinely, the main reason why loot system is the way it is is because of trading, because GGG wants it to be harder to get good items on your own, not because there are a lot of types of items, or because there is a lot of "content". The itemization, the loot system would be a lot different if it wasnt for trading.
anyone got a harvest tree? also which scarabs
>>564845142You gain nothing from completing the campaign faster in SSF setting
JONATROON
>>564858260you could do literally all of what you suggested without removing the need for a loot filter. things like synth bases, fractured bases, uniques, etc, would all still want to be filtered out by people, but useful for others. I'd generally agree that shit like currency shards shouldnt be things that drop, and most rares should be culled. But that still leaves you with a fuckload of scarabs and other useless items in a trade environment that are useful in ssf. At least you engaged in good faith for one single reply, proud of you anon
you now remember that you will have to trans aug and regal your maps in 0.5. Lookin' forward to it?
Orbs should let me choose what affix gets added.
>>564859540why can't I just alch
>>564859959cut out so you dont need to use a loot filter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBrY8xzeVechttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBrY8xzeVechttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBrY8xzeVechttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBrY8xzeVecHARD VIDEO JUST DROPPED
>>564860048>praise-baitingsounds like tri got the call
>it's actually bestiary>Mandatory 1 hour giga juiced rare fight in every single zone starting from ClearfellYeeeeeeaaaaanoo, thanks
>>564824619Amazon lsps. Learned my lesson, not starting anything untested, let the streamers do their job
>>564860724do you not have nets, exile????
FIX THE FUCKING SERVERS
>>564861171move to a real continent
>33 daysi can't handle it
>>564861731Lord of Hatred is coming out in 2 days lil bro
>>564861731EU5's 1.2 patch comes out in 2 weeks little bro
>>564861913No one is playing that reddit ass game
>>564863323We're all playing it here lil bro
I'm playing ballxpit, it's fun
>>564824619RELEASE DUELIST NOW
I logged into d4 for a bit to take a look at the paladin. How the fuck is the class worse than sader and d2 pala?I mean really, how, how do you have so much content that you can take inspiration from and make something better and cool but somehow it ends up bland, uninspired and boring as fuck.Holy shit it's so fucking bad.
I'm having a great time playing Diablo 4 while poo2keks seethe impotently.
there are literally tens of people enjoying d4 while us poe2keks can't do anything about it
>>564864004It's better than d2pala and d3sader althoughbeitdoe
whatever you say rob
>>564864004blizzard is all californians and they hate diablo
>>564864241Delete this post NOW
whens 0.5 traileri just watched the d4 expansions trailer and some gameplayits horriblethe game looks like mobileslopjonathan give me an eta ffs
if they didn't revamp the gem system entirely I'm not going to play the game
>>564865550livestream the 7th, i think real teasers will start next week we are still 2 weeks away
in D2, when you press an ability, something happens.in d3, there are some stupid buff abilities but that's mostly barb and DH and for the most part, button press does thing. the buffs at least feel substantial, worth pressing.in d4/poo2, when you use an ability, something Might happen. probably a resource generation or a minor number buff.
Question about poe2 filterIs it possible to set up my filter to stop showing me low tier weapons once i got to Higher level?For example>i am in act 2 >i want game to stop showing me Changeling Talisman (lowest talisman)>but i want game to still show it to me while i am still in act 1
generator spender is more prevalent in poe2 than d4let that sink in
>>564866790>>564867054>>564865832can you fuck off to /d4g/ already
>>564867452No they cant lmao
>>564867648extremely popular franchise that sold billions btw
>>564867717kek it's not reallllllllllll it's all fakelmao
>>564869445why is there no /d4g/most popular arpg that has ever existed has no /d4g/
>>564869672because all the mentally ill trannies that typically make and babysit generals on /vg/ aren't interested in D4and as we all know, 4chan trannies are 100% of the population or at least they perfectly represent the general populationobviously, that means that noone is playing D4 and it's all fakethank god there are anons that are clued in like you
>>564869865>most popular arpg on the planet with billions of players>yet doesn't have a single autismo to make a thread on /vg/
>>564869672We're playing our game unlike poobabies
>>564870321>We're playing our game
>>564870206yep, clearly fakegood job figuring it out for the rest of usno other explanation
>>564870548I'm waiting for your explanation, so far you've done a shit job defending your product.
>>56487039199% of the playerbase is on b.net lil bro
>>564870659ahahaah you're so schizo lmfao
>>564870730Always a convenient excuse
Diablo (fourth game) has a better gameplay than poo uno. Let that sink in
>>564871901Goodone
>>564871901you should made a diablo 4 general and stay there
Thanks for easy yous kids
Even /ourguy/ fubgun is going to play Diablo IV. You should play too
you know why poo2 is bad? it's because since the game is meant to have slower combat the skills should be more impactful and stronger but they are notin poo1 you blitzkrieg through maps brrrrrrrrrrrring everythingin poo2 you rollslop through maps and the skills should all have a BIG BLAST like an iranian ballistic missile falling in tel aviv and killing lots of people but they aren't, the gem system is honestly terrible it should be revamped or main skills should have like 8 slots of support skills
>only drops from a particular vault>1% or whatever drop rate>5CWhat did GGG mean by this?
>>564873343Let's hope we get some boom boom drop some bombs on Tel Aviv sword skills with the next league. Wasn't there some volcano or something show years ago?
>>564873343disproven by literally any endgame streamer footage
>>564873092everyone on twitch is being paid to play it just like when poe2 released.
>>564873092so true sister #ad #sponsored
i haven't played since abyss 2, but I had a tactician who could instantly pop the entire screen with grenade novaif anything survived i weapon swapped into mortar spam and blew it to dust. if it lived it was either pinned or stunnedso was that nerfed to trash or what. everyone bitches that poe2 is slowaf. it cleared at move speed while chain cc'ing everything
>>564877158Grenades got buffed, RETARD*THWACK*
What is the point of STAFF in this game?
>>564877501i literally haven't read a thing about 2 since before they got rid of towers midleagueneat tho. maybe i'll try next league
>>564873092Everyone will play itQuin will have the most viewers, and Quin will stop playing the second that drops are over. The same hour. And that will be the last time he plays the game for a couple of years until they do some other dumb ass release
>>564879989This is why I don't care about any of them.
>elemental res movement speed boots>+level to every slot possible>max ES chest and helmi think i might just skip the league if it's this checklist all over again
I said d4 is for dadgamers in alkaizer's chat and got insta-banned for an hourlmao watis dadgamer a banned word now?
>>564880256It's going to be. The entire point of this was to simplify building and gearing. They'll add a good amount of new uniques you can do some broken stuff with but if you play SSF it's pretty much always going to be that.
>>564880256this but poe1
>>564880367
>>564880367Time to realize that streamers just want your money and will stab you in the back for a penny
I tried out D4 to see if buying the big nigga expansion was worth it but the game literally felt like dogshit to play.
>>564882648I can understand playing it if I was getting paid a decent sum to do so.
>>564882648ok but d4 sold 10 million copies.
>>564882694ofc, I don't know how these ARPGcels do it though. You go from 1 screen clear game to the next as the seasons progress and you basically get no time to play something different to freshen it up. I'm always reminded about Basedmads melty where he was saying barely anyone of the creators even makes much and they'd be better off working mcdonalds and chilling out in their own time. I get bored of poop of excrement playing 4 hours a day for a while I dunno how the streamcucks do it.
>gambled my hom reserves>won like 5 cards>use it to craft another spark gloves>miss every annul and dominance>lose everything I earn from gamblingvery fucking funny
>>564883074really wish you retarded parasites would find some other game to infest
Uncomfortable trvke:If PoE2 had a character customizer like D4 does instead of gender-locked classes it would be much, much more popular. Total fumble by GGG!
>>564884608
Honestly people that bitch about lack of swords/axes/duelist/thief baffle me. You are playing fantasy RPG you can cast fireballs, summon undead armies, lightning strikes, etc. And you want to be burly man that swings sword.waaaaaaaaaowburly man that swings swordimpressive
>>564885161I don't want to be a burly dude. We already have most of the burly dude classes.
>>564885161>>564884719fuck off this game's choices for paladin-like builds was:1.) balding old fuck2.) a niggeryeah the game's options are actually lacking
>>564885738If being old and bald scares you away from being righteous, then you are a gay retard not worthy to be a holy man.
>>564885161It's more like being a burly dude that can swing a sword so hard that he does the same amount of damage in one swing that a big spell does. I am moving this weapon so quickly that the friction with the air causes it to burst into flame, burning you alive. That undead army gets demolished not by hitting each dude with a weapon, but with literally the emanations of the impact of me hitting a single dude. I move faster than the lightning strike. Wizards would never understand.
>>564885161i want the berserk sword and to larp as Guts for a league
just played 5 minutes of poo2 and remembered how bad the autotargeting is. Think I'm good until 0.6 bros...
>>564887906skill issue you are fucking BAD at videogames
>>564887906Yeah it's pretty ass, I just got used to it.
>>564888159try playing entangle on controller and tell me your spells center around your target 100% of the time;
dont ever cry about loot again you faggots
>>564890261that warlock lookin downright ZESTY and PECULIAR
>>564890541blizzard should have called the class zestlock
>>564890261yoooooooooooooooo this loot system fire bro! See how you don't need a loot filter and all that good loot is still showing? This is literally peak gameplay
am I seriously the only one who hated .1 so much I decided to not touch poo2 until 1.0? Im patiently waiting to be disappointed again while you plebs are guinea pigs for halfbaked slop
>>564891409stay in your containment general /d4g/ scum
>>564890953speaking of loot filter im going to add the D2 drop sounds to my maven loot filter for the next league they sound great
>>564891409I played 0.1 and skipped until 0.4. 0.2 looked really half assed, and 0.3 only piqued my interest for a few hrs. It's been pretty hit or miss, mostly miss. 0.4 i was hoping druid would keep me interested but everything in poo2 is just really bland and the gameplay feels like shit. Feels like controller is kinda jank for inventory and mouse and keyboard feels like shit because of the changes they made to click to move. Nothing feels right
What are we expecting for the upcoming update? Nerf everything? Slow it down? Useless nodes? Less drops for the campaign?
>>5648914090.1 was the only time poe2 was good htoughbeit
>>564897647is that what your favorite eceleb told you? cute
>>564897751retard
>>564882648I was going to pay $1 for 2 weeks of gamepass to try D4, but then I watched CohCarnages let's play and saw that it took him like 15 minutes to get a 2nd skill. literally just leftclicking white mobs for 15 min until the game gave him permission to unlock right-click. poe2 speedrunners can kill Asinia in that amount of time. conclusion: anything even a tiny bit complex is normie Kryptonite. the needs of a mass-market game are directly opposed to the needs of a good game and that's that.
>>564897647>it was only good when it was newyou don't really like games
>>564898481see>>564897965
I want more Astrolabes like Domination Astrolabe.
Please make Genderbend MTX like torchlightPlaying the current Shadow feels wrong, here's a better one
>>564898202HOLY RETARD
>>564899505Shadow is already a girl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmyRbR4quTk>played the warlock early>played the paladin>still doesnt want to play D4 D4 still bad huh
>>564900263shut the fuck up brickberta
Currently doing a new run with AG of smiting. Just realized how stupid it was to already switch into him, because there's no way this dumb piece of shit will be able to kill Kitava in it's current configuration.
>>564900917AG should be removed from the gamesame with spectres
>>564900263he used to be a massive d4 shill
>>564900917redpill me on the build what makes it good?
>>564901061they should heavily reduce your damage so it becomes a minion only thing, I'm sick and tired of leaving build performance on the table because I don't want to have miniosn
>>564901563it's cheap, that's it
>>564901563Voided baldo viable walking sim. https://pobb.in/4dRbLyh585rpI'll put like half a mirror into it and then try some voids. If I die it's a good end for the league.
>>564901093Even worse, Darth's original content was about being a whale for games like Diablo Immortal.
>>564902639I knew the guy from Eve Echoes launch, many years ago
>>56490156320k life that scales your minions damage. For some reason, Grey Wind scales with your health instead of the AG's.
>>564902639hard
>>564901061I hate spectres and i hate AGThey should really divide minions into different subtypes, like the minion equivilent of axes/sword/maces excep its like undead / constructs / some other thing. Atm it feels like if you're minions you're expected to just run everything which is lame
>>564903350every build is expected to run them nowadaysif you have the sockets you need to use them or you lose out on so muchit stinks
>>564903432This has Mark's filthy aurabot hands all over it.
>>564902789Not for some reason, the mod clearly states "player life" same with rathpith.
>>564899602yes D4 players are retarded
>>564900263why would D4 suddenly develop good gameplay or classes. the foundation for them literally isn't in the game.
do d4 dilators know they have their own general?
>>564905549damn they really did copy poe2...
>>564905578Ya, you're in it right now.
kek, he did it
>>564905683the comparison with poe2 is exactly why d4 is such a dessicated corpse.
>>564900263>>564901093kek the video is literally him saying he's going to play it BECAUSE its dull and shallow, and that he's getting old and that's what he wants now.
>>564900263>why i stopped playingthe checks from blizzard stopped coming
>>564905906why not just level with slams? How much do you need to start farming T17s on this build? Could you do it with 150 div?
>>564821425DOG SHIT OF EXILE OF 1NO CONTENT OF EXILE 1DOG SHIT OF EXILE OF 2NO CONTENT OF EXILE 2
>>564906353trvke
>>564906046No wonder he shills PoE 2 so hard.
>>564906395that's right, he's shilling d4 because it's dull and shallow unlike poe2
>>564906247>why not just level with slams?I'm not doing this to be efficient, already got a multi mirror character and my challenges. >Could you do it with 150 div?Yeah, 100%. If I cap my resistances and get 2 more levels to be able to equip the hallowed monarch I'm sure I could already do it in this dogshit gear. https://pobb.in/aPwtG1Au49ex
>>564906594poop2 is the most dull and shallow game imaginable thoughbeithapsthingksperchance
>>564906729>mageblood>wine of the prophet >dogshit gear
>>564906875go back to /d4g/ lil gup
>>564907070sorry I'm playing the superior game
>>564906247>How much do you need to start farming T17s on this build?My assumption was almost correct. He fucking wiped the floor with the map, and only died to a slam. Interesting dynamic that once the AG dies the map is cooked because you can't resummon.
>minions
Kelly posting some pigeons and a spider on your keyboard is not posting teasers about the endgame get your big booty on twitter and post something
>>564822167It's a retarded version of POE1 what did you expected? Oh, if you never played POE1 sad for you. This garbage had a genuine potential but fallen into mediocrity after each new update.
>>564865417FunDetected
>>564867452your defensive mechanism sending everyone in /d4g/ is genuinely retarded.
I want my fucking swords
>>564912435why aren't you going back to /d4g/
>>564912724I am not playing D4 lol
>>564911625What's with Blizzard and making every gay as fuck? Look at that flaming faggot. No one during development stopped and said "hey this looks stupid and fruity"? Come on now.
POOP
Good thing I got to play the last great poe league (Settlers) before the game died
>>564913910so true sistertime to leave and never come back
there's nothing to fucking do
>>564912665How would swords fuck?
is this a good enough shipment or should i grind more?
>>564912873everything about d4 and d2r is art directed like shit
>perfectly fine skill tree on poe1>decided to make a new skill tree on poe2 which is badWhy did no one in GGG told the vision guy to not fix something that is not broken?
What if they added movement skills so you don't roll 10,000 times an hour
>>564918590you should go back to /d4g/
>>564918908We all go back to /d4g/ when we die, but my time is not now.
>>564915569you either send the minimum or maximum shipment no in-between
If reflect is good why isn't it in PoE2?
>>564919896SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!! RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!!!!!!!!
1.0 will fix everything
>>564919896Keeping Reflect in PoE1 is proof they hate PoE1.
https://pobb.in/9zDuAUHVVf3VNumerically this already feels pretty good. Fairly tanky, AG is doing good damage, BUT holy fuck is playing with minions aids. The fucker constantly, and I mean CONSTANTLY runs around like a retard and stops attacking.
>>564920280Certain HH Buffs from Hallowed Monarch makes him bug out apparently.
>>564919896because poo2 is not good
>>564920968back to /d4g/ with your faggot ass
>have 500 hours>never used weapon slot passive points because weapon swapping sounded gay>just found out you can lock weapons in both slots>just found out you can set skill gems to only be used in certain slot>just found out it will auto swap to that weapon setholy shit...
>>564921086grim
>>564920484Not only that, despite being able to use smite this retard feels the need to stand next to mobs to attack them.
>>564824619>leaguestartyou HAVE to have autism to do this the game is barely entertaining enough to get through campaign and some mapping. if you are farming hundreds of divs in other to make alts and do the same thing you are an irl wizard
>>564921086I was the sameit sound likes unnecessary clunk but it's actually kind of decent if your build can make use of it
>>564921351>kind of decentlol
>>564921307are you retarded? the first character you play at the start of any league is a "leaguestarter"
>>564921159dawn
>>564921570all league starters are characters you play at the start, but not all characters you play at the start are league starterslearn the lingo, lurk moarretard
Been playing flicker most of the league and had a blast but now getting onto breach as the main strat and it feels awful since the white mobs that spawn fuck with targetinganything else that would work as a drop in replacement?
>>564921883you are too retarded to function, kys
>>564918590>poe skill tree>not brokenhuh? I always felt it was kinda shit cause every build kinda does the same thing on it >go to life nodes>pick up random shit thats nearby>go to the corners for clusters>if you're a stacker you take some retarded ass detour to 5 jewel sockets too
>>564824619LA Deadeye
>>564922134just make them all unstable breaches defending ailith sucks ass as flicker
>>564923375yeah that's what I was doing, flicker feels bad to play in any breach especially unstable because the white mobs that continually spawn fuck your targeting up bad
>>564923446just stop flickering and go on top of your target unless you die on a single hit or can't properly generate frenzy to change targets that's a different problem
I'm really really excited to see the malding when people find out 0.5 not only has no Act 5, but no new characters or weapons either.It's purely an endgame league and GGG are going to be saving everything for exilecon aka 1.0
Why is no one excited for Marauder?
>>564852501didn't grok get nuked?
>>564929236If they don't give me a new weapon with which to fruitlessly test out every build for something that doesn't feel like shit I'm not playing.
>yolo mist amulet cuz why not>it actually hitnot very big multipliers but hey thats cool
Why does Lil Gup have gray hair?
>>564899505would be nice, I wanna play poe as an anime girl
whats more shocking is there isn't a GOOD poe-like with anime tits everywhere(do not say TLI, I said good)
>>564899505>>564931950the answer is never ever and that is final. now die weeb scum.
>nevertoo late
Where was the spectral ranger or whatever leaked? need to know what ascendancies we will have for currently available classes>>564921086bait?
fucking dull gaem by fucking dull devs for dull audiencethey are literally afraid to hire actual talent and ideas, they pick someone just dull enough so they dont stand out or stir any watersare you dull fucks enjoying the awakened gems deletion 50 percent dps nerf league? they gonna trickle it back over next 4 leagues and call it a buff, then they will nerf you again cause they fucking dull as fuck and you will eat it all up cause you dull as fuck too
>>564884719>>564885738the reason why classes are genderlocked is because its cheaper that way. Small indie company.
>>564936110you just want to goon, AGP patient
>>564918535>art directedBro Poe1 and poe2 looks like this in every town
>>564936328wrong, back to /d4g/
>>564936298Yes i want to goon to male witch (warlock)
>>564936378he's right
>>564936378D4DEITIES run this general, lil poop.
d4 is shitstain scam-tier, no self-respecting player would touch it
Dove into poe1 semi-serously for the first time, 149 hours now. I keep dreaming about it, my dream last night was just me trying to corrupt a map to slot into my dream to change the scenery and it was all top down.
>>564936328Used to play this a lotLoved the DK combo and the Dark Lord fiery chain shit
https://pobb.in/FBIBuvUy2banpretty fun build, much tankier than advertised because of how the regen works, and double explosion from belt/cluster is immensely satisfying
There are some things POE2 should remove from the game to game less tedious and to reduce barriers and unfun moments. Not all "friction" is good.For example, they could just remove chaos resistance from gear, while reducing chaos damage from enemies to compensate. They could remove or rework accuracy. Missing sucks, there is no feedback visually or with audio when you are missing, its shitty stat, its also a rating that is pretty much like no other stat, you got no idea how much "rating" you need. These are some of the anti-fun stats.
Just noticed that new Zana's clothes look weird>>564931060could be a reference to many things. being pure, being old or just a stylistic decision by the artist.
>>564938413Zana's got that Gronnstalker shoulders drip
>next league will be 6.5 months long
reminder that haired fucking retard promised us 1.00 in 2026lollmao
>>564941576You'll get 1.0 with exilecon even if its not finished. At the end of the day the patch number is arbitrary. They could call the next patch 4.3 if they wanted, its all made up
>>564940702it's probably blizzard's fault lmaowithout any real competitor GGG have no reason to spam content regularly.
4 leagues a year seems fine. What was it before PoE2 3-4?. The real problem is you have people that are PoE1 / PoE2 exclusive now so they get stuck waiting 6 months for new shit to do, where it suddenly feels like a big gap
>>564942271>no reason to spam content regularly.b-b-but jonatroon said there will be 4 months releases on the dot no exceptions and they will just put out what they have and that's that no more delays!
>>564942401he probably assumed Blizzard would actually rise to the challenge. big mistake.
>>564942375if they let me reset my temple I'd probably be playing poe2 now lol
>>564942591the reason 0.5 is delayed is because of d4 though.ggg are known to be scared of any relevant competition and always delay their own releases to accommodate other games.this is factual.
>>564942716
retard
>>564824672>>564832636I expect daggers to have some shitty backstab mechanic where you have to kite around mobs. Also some execute finishing blow for heavy stunned enemies. Also some gay disengage jump behind.Because Jonathan hasn't played a videogame before, he's only seen trailers.
>month 16 of the 6 months EA
>>564943912>>564824672>>564824619GGG probably can't release two classes at once because they need to test them, and if one is remotely more complicated to play than the other, the entire playerbase will simply ignore one and only play the one that looks as brainless and familiar as possible. e.g. if Gladiator is revealed to use Parry and Shadow is also in the patch then everyone will suddenly just only want to play Shadow.
FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUAAAAAAAAAARRRKK we're finally going home tomorrow PoEbros!
>>564825507>trapswe already know they're going to be completely different to poe1 traps in a way that will make nostalgiafags screech and rip at their hair and clothing because GGG insist on actually balancing the game this time.
>>564944778>GGG insist on actually balancing the game this time.LMAO
why are there a mechanics in the game like parry or active block that have close to no usability during campaign and I would argue zero in end game?why have they not been removed? most importantly why are there SO MANY nodes dedicated to parry? I know they don't use "data" like blizzard but I cannot believe they don't look at node usage internally and see that no one is ever picking those.the stubbornness of ggg will be their inevitable downfall.
>>564944863every league has more diverse endgame ascendency picks than the lastthe top 3 in the most recent race were warrior, demonform infernalist (!) and merc, in that order. the playerbase generally speaking has very little real knowledge of game balance.
genshin won hard
>>564923232I also feel like building in PoE2 is roughly the same. I shove points into defense nodes until I can very comfortably live (HCSSF btw) and then I just grab whatever value is near me.
>>564945021>why are there a mechanics in the game like parry or active blockangormos literally uses active block u retardbut the rumor has always been that swords also grant parry and so probably ggg will fix some of the bugs with parry when gladiator is added.
>>564945276Neither do you if you think a race is an indicator of balance.
>>564945481Do you think the Shield Wall build is very hard to do?
>>564945021they're plenty usable, zoom zoom is just too strong right now so 90% of the playerbase is obviously going to lean towards that playstyle
>>564942271>No reason to spam content >Unfinished gameCompanies should fuck you even more, you deserve it.
>>564945481>hurr balance only means div/hour with near-perfect gearyou have a right to your opinion ;)the reality is that the game does reward you for using lots of skills, respeccing is trivial if you decide you don't want to use as many, and that getting to endgame quickly is the way to get the best gear fastest. the design decisions are working. also:https://youtu.be/ldH3amjZWuI?si=Mj9-3Fh09-dCjc95&t=9763"the top 6 finishers were on 6 different classes"
without using buzzwords, what is ACTUALLY "wrong" with the poe2 skill tree?have never seen an actual answer to this question
>>564945847People often complain about it not being impactful enough. I view it as a way to get what I'm lacking from my gear and I usually am satisfied with what I can get out of it in that regard. I think some stuff could be stronger and other stuff is fine. Some other people also want more build-defining nodes. A lot of people complain about downsides but I like them, it feels good when you can not care about them or manage them.
>>564945734it's not possible to fuck someone as hard as blizzard's playerbase get fucked$70 horses is a whole other level
>>564945847It’s unfinished. That’s literally it
>>564945847It's bloated, has too many travel nodes and is unimpactful generally
>>564945847The real problem imo is that in PoE1 you can travel through node clusters but in PoE2 it broadly forces you onto passive highways. If you actually math it out there's only like 10% more travel nodes or something in PoE2, its all because you can't through shit that makes it feel slow
>>564945847streamers want the tree to be more important so they can monetize build guides aimed at the broader playerbase who quits relatively early into endgame. that's literally it. >>564946051>I view it as a way to get what I'm lacking from my gearthat explains a lot, because its aimed at doing the exact opposite of that. it multiplies your gear. very different from poe1.
>>564945806Delete this. Real balance is autistic people racing in the campaign.>>564945554They don't make sense once you have a build up and running. I tried to make Fangs of Frost work in 0.3 and you're better off spamming it then standing there and doing zDPS(literally). It's fun to use parry in the campaign though.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EoTQBUNGPo
>>564946089It's just cosmetics it's not a whole junk of the base game. And it doesn't justify taking 2 years to release a bunch of basic classes and campaign chapters.
>>564946051>>564946246>impactfulwhat for damage? people 1 shot every boss in the game already, and even if they didnt there are tons of damage multipliers around the tree even if it doesnt directly increase your pob dps.for defense and recovery and utility its extremely impactful but again a majority just blow their load on damage (state of the game issue, not skill tree issue)
>>564945554is there a world in which you would rather use parry, wait for the mob hit and then use a skill rather than just using a skill outright with no extra steps?even if the payoff was huge and cool I would argue no one cares enough to do that.if you're going to make an arpg kill things fast should be your main concern, this turn based shit where you press parry, you wait for the mob/s to attack and then you attack back is literal insanity.
>>564946598I can assure you that the general playerbase isn't one-shotting bosses.
>>564946832i can assure you they are
>>564946419>it broadly forces you onto passive highwaysthis issue is because players don't realize how much it rewards you for respeccing frequently. as long as you have enough stats from gear, a notable 2 points away that helps your build is always better than a notable 7 points away. so you should just take the nearby notables, then respec out of them and into the far-away notables when you have enough points. you can do that at least once per act
>>564946575>poe2: 4 acts and half an endgame over 2 years>d4: 0 acts and 0 endgame over 3 years
>>564946620>is there a world whereyeah its called ssf.the item-centric design of poe2 means trade league will always let you buy enough dps to make your own skill irrelevant but not everyone wants to do that. using more buttons is also a levelling accelerant in general especially at leaguestart. with parry specifically, you don't want to just hold parry and wait for a monster's attack, you time it so that you are always doing something.
>>564947408I don't really understand why people do this
>>564947618You don't understand why players seek to optimize and use every vector they have to clear content faster?
>>564947747but you're not faster, that's the point. you're making an argument for something that doesn't exist.you're defending something that's undefendable.
>>564947618I'd recommend at least skipping through one of the most recent races. it's a very different game and people clear act 4 in like 2h15m
>>564884608Retard take. Poe has the best arpg character roster and it's not even cool. I don't want subpar toons spouting generic lines I want actual characters
>>564947996*closeFUCK
>>564947941sounds great until you see they are level 30 and would then have to grind act 3 if they ever want to get to maps
>>564948267A league start to maps takes around 4 hours instead.
>>564946423>that explains a lot, because its aimed at doing the exact opposite of that. it multiplies your gear. very different from poe1.You run into a dilution issue though. If you have an amazing amount of defenses or damage from gear, that hits the relative value of those nodes on the tree, so you'll probably get more overall stats adjusting where it is. Of course you can not care and just dump endlessly anyway but you can't get around a larger multiplier making smaller boosts less impactful.
>>564948706i dont think you understand stats in poe2
oh it's the reddit tranny that likes to argue with everyone
>>564948267That does sound great though. PoE levelling was at it's best when you cared about where you would xp and where you would just blast through.
I am actually excited to play d4bad. Haven't played in fucking ages, I think since the last expansion release lol. What a dogshit that was, I can't imagine this being any better but should be some mindless fun for a few days.
>>564949941Well, they're not exactly blasting through it, more like running and jumping past nearly everything.
>>564950140How about you go and post this in Diablo general? They really need people, their thread is already over a month old.
>>564950140Me too, should have been like this from the start but better late than never
>>564950232I don't think d4 can sustain a general and to be frank it doesn't need one either. What is there to discuss lol, the game has the depth of a puddle, much like PoE2.
poe2sissies...
>>564950140just bought it today, messed around on paladin. the game is a lot better, still kind of sloppy thoughwill be interesting to try endgame
>>564948267>I don't play poe2sorry u should have said
What's a good time to switch to herald of agony on a glad?I'd like to switch as early as possible, do you need clusters to make the switch? If so, how many instances of Pure Agony do I need?Also, Replica Alphas Howl or Lone Messenger The Coming Calamity?
>>564950456What end game lmao. Nothing changed, there's no new end game, idk where this end game meme comes from.They added nothing new, we're doing the exact same thing but now instead of doing 10 pits in a row you'll be doing pit, nmd, tower, pit, nmd, tower repeat ad nauseam.
>>564950790how is that different from poop where you do maps, maps, maps, maps, boss, maps, maps, etc
>>564950939He should just do Chaos trials then.
>>564950939i get not liking it but how do people still manage to fail sukmas, i don't think i failed one after the very first time on ea launch
>>564950790yeah I never did end game in original d4, I hated it so gave up before barely doing anythingthats why I'm interested to actually see what its likethe pit system looks fun though if its anything like greater rifts in d3also being able to choose what you like doing and getting a bonus for it is good
>>564950491>doesnt know about exp penaltyretard.
>>564951081chaos trials are much harder
>>564950346Marathon 2
>>564951995I've actually found them easier
I am playing as Bear and i have to say both Sekhemas and Chaos trials are missarable after campaign unless your gear outlevels them by A LOT.Honestly melee feels sooooooooooo fucking dogshit, my favorite part is when abyss creates monster that syphons your life in aoe and you cant do shit about it. Really great design GGG, good job
>>564953951Sounds like dogshit buildGood melee build kills everything faster than it can harm youGood melee build regenerates faster than enemies can kill youSekhemas and Chaos are skill issue. They were literally designed to be cleared without taking any damage
>They put life back on the treePoE 2 is saved>They refuse to put life back on the treePoE 2 remains dogshitIt's really that simple btw.
>>564954304>They bring back tower tabletsPoE 2 endgame is saved>They refuse to bring towers backPoE 2 endgame remains dogshitIt's really that simple btw.
>>564954550Alternatively:>PoE 2 endgame is completely scrapped and replaced with something else (any)PoE 2 is saved>PoE 2 endgame is completely scrapped and 1:1 replaced with PoE 1 endgamePoE 2 kills PoE 1 in about 2-4 patches.
Poe 1 endgame sucks
>>564954304Honestly just let bottom left have the life wheelsAlso halve all the ES wheels on the tree, that shit is aids
>>564954985I still don't fucking know how they thought that buffing both ES bases AND ES roll ranges AND fucking ES on the tree wouldn't make ES just full retard OP, even if you can't recover it as easily as in PoE 1.
>>564950590prease respond
>>564955060I usually end up near 1s delay anyway, they made that even easier with the Djinn Sorc ascendancy too, then you have Convalescence with multiple uses too.
I think this might be the most underappreciated piece of gear right now.
>>564954550The TRVKE /poeg/ was not prepared for
>>564955285Yeah, if you invest a bit in it you can get delay to like ~0.5-0.7s and at that point literally nothing that can't oneshot you can kill you, Convalescence as you mentioned then covers dots/sustained damage...Kinda funny how you actually end up with more and more reliable recovery on ES than on Life in PoE 2 now that I think about it...
>>564955356>underappreciated it's 900 div m8
>>564951479staying in the XP range is part of speedlevellingobviously you don't play exactly the same if you're going to proceed to mapslol, lmao etc
>>564955356It's just 18% more damage and movement speed, best case, if your build has any sort of DR on AS it's already less than that and provides literally nothing else, it's way overrated if anything.
>>564954751>you never post here again/poeg/ is saved
>>564955847PoE 2 WILL become PoE 1 and there's nothing you can do about it.
>>564955995I am pretty sure they will axe POE1 in 2027-28.There is no real reason to keep this old game alive because there POE2 exist which is gonna be the same shit.
D4 is fun. You just get your Paragon 300, clear all the challenges and feel fullfillment for the entire season.Not everything on the market should be POE-like.
>>564822167campaign is the best partmelee is great (if ur staff)defenses are way too fucking OP (specifically energy shield)game is cool but needs fixing for sure>Quadruple campaign boss HP and double their damage on certain attacks>Make ES nodes 1/4th their current value>Make ES bases 30% higher base value to make it not shit in campaign>Make Armour twice as effective>reduce travel nodes on tree>unshittify notables and wheels on tree (why is everything either 20% inc damage generic or fucking garbage?)
>>564955684aka playing the game normally
>>564957109the biggest disappointment for me is the new reworked passive tree in d4. it's so bad.>removed passives>skills require 15 fucking points to max out>your lightning bolts can now be.. frost bolts!>look at these retarded squiggly lines a 2 year old drew and we made a UI out ofI was honestly pretty interested in playing D4 again but God damn what a let down that shit is. Warlock looks awful too, the spell animation and gfx are okay but the minions and minion game play looks retarded and unintuitive.
what the hell am I supposed to play for the next month
>>564959065it's not a passive tree, it's a skill tree and now it is actually a skill treemoving most of the skill altering aspects into the skill tree is a great change because now they can go about making aspects and uniques that are more generically related to damage/utility/survivability which will increase build varietygetting rid of the passives from the skill tree is also good, because they can still use them in other itemisation like charms and it allowed them to add multipliers to affixes and gemsbeing able to put 15 points into skills is also a good change because it killed the predominant meta of having +skills in every slot possible because that affix is now not nearly as desirable as when the max ranks you could put into a skill was just 5these are literally all great changes and you shit on D4 because you just fundamentally don't have a good grasp of what makes an ARPG good or badinb4 more tranny spiel about changes you don't comprehend
the fact that you're so retarded to even begin to think that people won't be using +skill on literally every item because they can put 15 points into a skill now instead of 5 tell me everything I need to know.
>>564959846like I said, you just fundamentally don't comprehendat least you avoided the wall of trannypost, good job!
>>564959846>esl>probably brown>instant hysteria and refusal to use reply links when opinion is challengedlolgoing from 5 to 15 skills per skill makes item +skill lose two thirds of its value
>>564959987>like I said, you just fundamentally don't comprehend>at least you avoided the wall of trannypost, good job!
>>564955356You can get 10% action speed on an eldritch implicit without sacrificing every other stat of your boots.This shit isn't even worth 10D.
>>564918590Terminal retardation and listening to the casual masses that cried "path of life nodes" like this guy >>564923232
oh conner made a video shitting on the passive tree a couple days ago, that's why the 2jeet has been sperging out
>>564957206>change conversational topic until you can win an argument with yourselfanyway, we agree that using a lot of different skills is rewarded by poe2 and that speedrunning builds prove this... even if most players are too retarded to do it and insist it can't be optimal despite the evidence.
>>564950939the fun part is that come next league we're all going to be able to pick one of three different trial options, and do one exclusively or any mixture of them in any order if that's what we want.
>>564961994>fun partno such thing in wetfart of exile deux
I can not play D4 the UI alone is HORRIBLE
>>564961994If you're holding out for TOTA to be faster or less tedious or more fun than what we've already got I don't know what to tell you.
>find wand with +5 gem levels>cannot replace it for 80 levelsGOD I LOVE POOP2 SO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!
>>564962962> wand with +5 gem levelsWhat the fuck is this, Diablo 2?
Poe2 passive tree is a fucking travesty. Want to make it more interesting and build defining? Add in more sector exclusive nodes, cross class nodes, and masteries and ffs can we have some fucking influence jewels that do more than 1% increased damage to passives in radius? That whole system is a fucking let down
>>564963058uhhhh d2 good every game should be d2
>>564963148shut up jonatroon
>>564963148no, too old, objectively poe ruthless has already surpassed it
Diablo 4 expansion in 9.1656 hours bros. Story spoilers: Neyrelle dies 1 minute into the story and a message pops up on screen that says "yeah she was a dumb bitch sorry about that we added some Lilith fanservice to the end of the campaign please keep playing." The Diablo franchise is SAVED.
>>564964193>map overlay>loot filter>actual crafting>basedface screaming woman killed offthey fixed EVERYTHING
>>564963132>Add in more sector exclusive nodes, cross class nodessounds like a contradictionas if you are just making random criticisms and don't play the game, almost
>>564963148d2 is good but i cant play d2 unless i mod the fuck out of it im currently playing reimagined >>564964193nah im playing d2 until poe2 0.5 is out im not paying 60$ every expansion that is half the size of a league in poe
>>564964475D4 has finally reached the QOL standard that D2 achieved 26 years ago! thanks you based blizzard!
>>564963428this but unironically
>>564964792D2 didn't have a loot filter or crafting :)
>>564964945D2 has runewords and enchants which is pretty much crafting and reimagined has crafting to the point it has a wiki with over 700 of them
>>564964945yeah you didn't need one
It's time. Duelist or no Duelist? Call it. If you are wrong you will get testicular torsion during the reveal
>>564965129>>564965189>goalpost status: moved
>look into the "new" D4 skill treeso basically they have one system that is meant to satisfactorily fill the design space of PoE1/2's skill gem, support gem, and skill tree systems, and all the complete potential player-explorable interactions between those three systems. WOW HOW DID THEY DO IT. THEY LITERALLY ADDED LIKE 4-5 OPTIONS TO EVERYTHING, ONLY 3-4 OF WHICH ARE JUST STATS. THIS IS AMAZING.
>>564965470dilate
>>564965470uh... no not really?
PoE passive tree > LE skill trees > D4 skill trees > PooP2 passive tree
>>564965516This but unironically
>>564965470>>564965129
POO 2HUGE STINKAWFUL SMELL
Return of the Ancients teaser x4 the views of the mirage teaser. It's truly over for poo1bros isn't it?
>>564965632>poop 1 passive tree>you must allocate everything into hp nodes or you die in 1 hit to anythingMeaningful build choices lmao.
am I the only one to notice the eerie similarities between poe2 and d4? in many way d4 1.0 was ahead of it's time and ahead of poe2. it wanted to provide a more meaningful combat experience. both games wanted to have>slow paced impactful game play and combat>item scarcity >skills with cooldown and combos>not a gorillion mobs on the screenand many more examples that I can't be bothered listing.yes it's true that both games had very big issues with different aspects of the game. in d4's case for example it was the itemisation and poe2's cocained up mobs that would zerg you down. I feel though that given enough reiteration and adjustment both game could've succeeded in what they initially set out to achieve but the fucking communities of both games sperged out constantly asking for more zoom more zoom more enemies, more explosions. everything needs to be a constant blur and vomit of things happening on the screen.it's too bad really, we could've had greatness given enough time from both game but unfortunately both blizzard and ggg lacked strong leadership to see things through.sad!
FFFFFUUUUUUAAAAAARRRRKKK can't fucking wait it's almost here! God I'm so hype I could cave in the skull of every poofag.
Big leak on PoedbWe get at least three classes
>>564967574aren't those just things related to the new ascendancies?
>>564967679Sure
Why are dots in poe2 so shit compared to poe1
Hmmmm
>>564968071>Use Shroud>Hold Space until the end of the mapFinally, enjoyable leveling.
>>564968071Wtf is this, Diablo 4?
PoE2 will forever be DOGSHIT until they add in DEDICATED minion and shapeshift asendancies.
>>564968339until they remove minions*
>>564967574>axeswe are so fucking back>leaping chop>whirling slash>spinning inferno>spinning throwWE ARE SO FUCKING BACK
>>564968339Even then it's gonna be ass.They somehow managed to make Minion AI worse than in PoE 1, I didn't think that would be possible.
>>564961667If they're listening to the people whose points you apparently can't refute that's quite good Or did you think just because you don't like that guy your opinion holds more weight? You think your feelings are more important than how every build actually ends up as the same template?
>>564968520every map being filled with tiny corridors and doorways was such a big improvement!!!!
>>564968513Swords, flails and daggers tooIt’s all hereMaybe even traps
>>564968759Damn, D4 got GGG shook
you niggers are fucking insane if you think we're getting more than 1 class and 2 ascendancies for the old classes.
>>5649690260.5 is literally make or break for PoE2, otherwise D4 wins.
>>564966907>le hp node!!homo
>>564968759Traps?
>>564969026The bare minimum we’ll get is one class and 3 ascendancies for the older classes
Minion pact is getting old yellered for sure, but what else isn't making it out of this patch alive? Invert the rules maybe? Heart of destruction aoe?
>>564969364>can I copy your homework?>sure just change it a bit so its not obvious
>>564969506Anime Guardian of Smiting is getting smited for sure.
>>564969506hopefully hp stack shit
>>564968513I really hope we get axes. I want to try doing a full retard Axe Shaman scaling rage into the stratosphere.
>>564969506AG and spectres are getting nerfed into the ground
0.5 is saved
>>564969506Is anything getting BUFFED?
>>564969161D4 wins anyway
>>564969506Invert the Rules simply existing makes me think it's safe. They wouldn't have made something that stupid to just nerf later on.
>>564967574>Chop>HEBI chop>LEAPING chop>RAISED chopAre we serious about this now?
>>564971660GET CHOPPED NIGGER
>>564967574Nah 1 class 1 act and 1 weapon
>>564967876>Fungal terrainFinally i can play Mushroomancer
>>564971660These are different skills with different descriptions, they just have placeholder names
>>564968339retard, poe1 used to have dedicated minion ascendency, and guess what, every minioncuck was forced onto that ascendency. once they removed it, now you can viably choose minions as basically any ascendency all having strengths and weaknesses. go play d4.
I do not own, have never played, and do not plan to play poo2.
>>564972689>Thrown Two Hand AxeHm?
>>564972804Retard
>>564971660>he doesn't chop
>>564972816this is for you King
>>564972689>leap, catch, ???, profitoldfafs working on poe 2 skills
>Attack Speed: 35% of base
>>564974742Shadow is known for being a slow class after all.
TODAY IS THE DAY!! A NEW ERA BEGINS!!GATHER ROUND EVERYONE!! TODAY WE JOURNEY INTO THE GREATEST FORM OF HELL WE HAVE EVER EXPERIENCED!!GONE ARE THE DAYS OF LIMITED BUILD OPTIONS, LACK OF CRAFTING, AND AN ENDGAME LACKING IN OPTIONS AND CHALLENGETODAY WE REALIZE THE POTENTIAL OF THE GAME WE ALL LOVE, STEPPING INTO THE DAWN OF A NEW ERA!!IT IS TIME FOR THE WORLD TO KNOWD4 GOOD, REAL F***ING GOOD
>>564964478It's not a contradiction. You can do two things at the same time retard. For instance, masteries in poe allow things like the life masteries or aura masteries to be grabbed in multiple spots. Ev/es hybrid nodes could provide interesting benefits. Same for Armour/es. And the they could add things like the projectile spell wheel but for aoes, etc with niche benefits throughout the tree. Just because you're a fucking retard doesn't mean my suggestion contradicts
>>564966907>actual retardYou don't belong playing arpgs
>>564966913It's immediately noticeable due to the dedicated dodgeroll button, lmao health globes, and slower paced combat. Almost like they don't like the genre because they're old boomers
>>564966907You know the only time I've heard of people just saying pick HP nodes is from Seth's video. It almost never works out since other forms of defenses and conversion shit works out better.
>Light RadiusIt's 100% Delve
>>564968596Path of life nodes has been refuted ad nauseum. It's the refuge complaint of the midwit- who this game is designed for
>>564975512FFFFFUUUUUUAAAAAARRRRKKK POO COULD NEVER
>>564974742lol
>>564975512>D4 GOOD, REAL F***ING GOODunironically this
cyclone where
>>564975836It's just outdated tech. The other defensive layers didn't used to be so strong.
>>564976434It looks like all melee weapons are getting skill like this. Even hammers are getting something similar.
>>564976450It's crazy to me it still gets tossed around when people are taking up nodes out to stack block, ar/es, masteries, arctic armour, f&s etc. Almost like the people making that complaint don't play the game
is quinsixnine playing d4 loh or not? if my streamer is not playing it I will not play either
>>564976768thats not cyclone that is NOT my spin 2 win
>>564976768that looks like some shit vergil would do
>>564848558The ssf discord that gets linked in the retarded ssf global sometimes is so fucking bad. It has a couple hundred people in it but only 10 ppl active talking in it. 3-4 of them are blatantly non-passing trannies.
>Attack Speed: 15% of base>Requires 3 Frenzy Charges to use>2.9 Total Attack Time>30% more Movement Speed penalty whileusing Supported Skillsyour cyclone poe2keks
>>564970445>cost 100 spirit
>>564977385REEEEEEEEE
>axes are Jonathan's (tm) combo driven melee/ranged hybrid weapons like spears>swords are all about parries>daggers have some gimmick too>tota is in and it makes everyone seethe harder than sekhemaImagine THE SOUL
>>564977718Axes are gonna be as shit as maces
>>564977718>>axes are Jonathan's (tm) combo driven melee/ranged hybrid weapons like spearsSomebody stop that man. No one real actually played throwing axes in D2.>B-b-but throwbarbYou are not real.
>>564977718>>axes are Jonathan's (tm) combo driven melee/ranged hybrid weapons like spearsI can totally see an axe skill where you throw the axe in the ground or at an enemy and then you have to do some retarded song and dance to retrieve it with the result being so dumb shit that no one will ever care about.
>>564959581where did you get this art from? it's different than the current Templar art on poe2db.. but both are underwhelming because Templar robe looks too much like Monk's
>>564977986>>564972689
>>564971518Invert the rules + ele mastery means you get >50% chance to treat resistances as inverted, which means INCREASING enemy resistances increases your damage.Meanwhile there are retards on reddit who think it's bad because they have curses/exposure/other shit that reduces enemy resistances which literally reduces their damage.
>>564978149ain't no fucking way
>>564976091I'm sure it has been in the fantasy retard world you live in
>>564978295This is like using ele weakness when you play inquisitor but worse
>>564977986Wouldn't it be funny, just gutbusting, just hilarious, if it's a nuGoW reference?
>>564978295we've had ele invert rakiata's cyclone/flicker since it was addedyou can use the runegraft of treachery that makes your purity auras increase their resists
>>564978453See >>564976821And kill yourself
>>564977980>>564977986Not a joke btw
>>564978714>it's not just path of lifenodes, you also pick the block nodes in the wayit's almost like that's exactly what I said you retarded nigger
>>564978848i wonder if it will have the axe spinning around you skill
>>564978861>the block nodes, and the armour nodes, and the damage nodes, and the aura nodes, and the specific masteries, and niche nodes like duration, and regen nodes, and curse nodes, etcCope and seethe retard
Even if "path of life nodes" was real poe2 has done nothing to solve it. They removed the life nodes and have done nothing for the past year and a half to address what life nodes were providing. They added deflection to make life EV builds more viable which is one of the most blackpilling things about the game, it is such an incompetent fucking attempt at improving straight evasion. You dont get points for removing life nodes and then doing nothing for a year and a half, at that point you clearly dont give a shit and should just put them back.
its monday, kelly get those thicc cheeks onto twitter and post some teasers
>>564979398You are a stupid nigger because the sole constant here is picking the life nodes every timeyou pick the same framework of life nodes, then you pick a couple masteries and other defensives on the way, then you go to clusters. That's it, that's every single build that has life
>>564967574>cast when stunned >cast while channeling AUTOBOMER BROS WE ARE SO FUCKING BACK
>>564980203there's no bloodnotch or immutable force hereit's going to be niggerclunk, but you can count on some chink making it work somehow
>>564979926poo 1 players will cope seethe and dilate when confronted with this fact>m-muh important build choiceslmaodon't forget having too wear rare garbage with triple resistances and hp in almost every slot
>>564967574>His Grave Command>His Foul Emergence>His Winnowing FlameWho is HE?
>>564981574Him. John Exile.
>>564981574chayula ofc
>>564981830>normalfag twitter memeyou have to go back
>>564981994>redditspacingAu contraire
>>564982291Do you know that reddit spacing is a meme made up by /qa/ specifically to fuck with retards like you?
>>564980203Will we have Cast when Cucked?
>>564981574Kulemak
>>564982478Sure anon.
>PoE1path of life nodes>PoE2path of ES nodesLOL
>>564982687I wonder, can you tell me what "reddit spacing" specifically refers to?
>Diablo 4 music video from one of the biggest bands in the world with a $50 million professionally produced video animation>only 4k views in 1 hour>PoE 2 trailer for a filler league>50k views in 1 hourIt's unironically completely over.
>>564983327>biggest bands in the worldwho?
>>564983661Korn. they're not actually big but they're definitely well-known enough that this was a waste of money by Blizzard. anything to avoid spending money on making games better I guess lmao
