FUN editionPreviously on /coopg/: >>564617565>Latest News/Updates:Darktide:‘Beyond the Hive’ is out. Patch notes:https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/beyond-the-hive-free-update-out-now-patch-1-11-0-expeditions/119479Kuli's guides for beginners:https://steamcommunity.com/id/kulii/myworkshopfiles/?section=guides&appid=1361210Space Marine 2:Hotfix 12.3 Patch Noteshttps://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/381-hotfix-12-3-patch-notesDude Wallhttps://dudewall.github.io/dude-wall/Vermintide 2:Hotfix 6.9.2 patch noteshttps://store.steampowered.com/news/app/552500/view/523109140338311330>Also Exist:Deep Rock GalacticHelldivers 2PaydayThe Outlast TrialsStarship Troopers ExterminationAliens: Fireteam EliteKilling Floor 2BarotraumaLeft4Dead 2Ready Or NotGTFONo More Room in Hell 2Remnant 2Back4BloodEarth Defense Force 6WWZThe Forever WinterFBC: FirebreakKilling Floor 3Daimon BladesJohn Carpenter's Toxic Commandoand others>Future gamesDen Of Wolves - TBADarkSwarm - TBABlight: Survival - TBADeep Dish Dungeon - TBA>Build planners:Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
>>564972490How do we include hive scum in this image?>the fucking psykerI laugh every time
>>564972620dude raising his arms holding 2 shivs?
>>564972601Vat grown child made out of the parent(s) genetic material.
Cadia? More like CACAdia
expeditions SUCK
>>564973065Well yeah.
Not a VT2 player, how many maps there are in CW? Are they actually randomized?And why the fuck fatshark won't just upgrade mortis trials into a full fledged CW clone with adventure style maps? Like just make A to B maps out of the same reused assets and dream world slop instead of dogshit arenas.
>>564973286it's different parts cobbled up randomly. Word on the thread is that CW was outsourced
I can't seem to make the bolter work on veteran. Anyone here handing out some builds?
>>564973703pinning fire shattering impact either tag or marksman focus
>>564973286>Are they actually randomized?Not really, iirc there are very few spots with alternate paths and one will be locked. They're just reused tilesets, some maps reuse whole sections of existing maps in a sort of dream world style, others are more or less original with existing assets plus there's some totally new assets (I don't think the lava stuff existed anywhere, or the boat caves) Fatshark won't make it because CW was outsourced to a different studio called toadman interactive, which doesn't exist anymore. I think roguelike gameplay is not their area of expertise and they're too dumb to just copy VT2, as is shown in many other parts of darktide where it would've been better to do so
>>564973703You have reload speed nodes in the top right and top left. I suggest taking at least one for ease of play. Taking both is viable, if expensive.Don't listen to the other retard's blessing suggestions. The bolter is not for magdumping, and doing so should be an absolute last resort. It's vet's crit sniping weapon. You put Surgical on it, to use with your Deadshot talent, then fuel the stamina cost with one +3 stam curio and piss tag's stamina refund node. Second blessing depends on how you want to use it. Puncture lets you hit some oneshot breakpoints, Shattering Impact lets you kill crushers in 3 aimed headshots I believe.For perks, unyielding usually goes on it. Carapace only in case you care about shooting crushers, otherwise flak, unarmored or elites; if you're taking any of these, check whether your build can effortlessly kill all types of gunner with headshots, I forget what the exact breakpoints are.The bolter is slow and unwieldy, you will need One Motion (top right).The power sword is your best melee choice, because it does everything, including saving you ammo.If you plan on using the exploding mark, your second blessing is Pinning Fire because it constantly hovers at max stacks even after a single shot, and needs the strength to make up for its lack of damage. Don't bother with carapace on this one, unyielding + flak is likely your best bet.Puncture does not work with its aoe unfortunately.Dump mobility if you use Pinning Fire, else consider dumping collateral. It's likely still better to dump mobility anyway, as I assume you're asking because you're new, so you won't have infinite mats.
what's with pve players and arrogance
>>564974575>It's vet's crit sniping weaponisn't that the plasma gun?
>>564974774NTA but I hate plasma gun, it feels like shit.
>>564974774Plasma gun also does sniping very well, but it has a lot of lag between trigger pull and loosing the shot, so it's annoying to use. It also runs into slight throughput issues when it starts overheating, while the bolter can just panic magdump, reload, panic magdump, and the screen is usually clear after that.Plasma gun's defining feature is the ability to cleave through multiple enemies, which is horde clear, not sniping. It can wallbang through thin walls, which is also more gimmicky than practical in most situations.The ammo economy on both guns is roughly comparable. Plasma's biggest strength is requiring much less investment (no reload nodes, no Deadshot means no stamina means not being locked into specific keystones) and thus freeing up more melee investment. I personally never liked plasma, and the recent swap speed nerf kind of killed the gun for me.Plasma is kind of a top tier gun and bolter is a little bit below it, but the guns work differently enough for this to matter, and a polished bolter build performs just as well as a plasma build, provided you can aim.
>wow we made all these polearm movesets for vermintide>time to make sure darktide never sees them
Which Combat Shotgun mark is best?
>>564976436The one that has slug rounds, because you can use the special to one-tap trappers and accurately hit snipers. It also lets you load the most shells and thus dump out a fuckload of DPS (and then reload for a business day)They're all weirdly viable if you build them right though.
>>564976436I prefer grippy for the slug. But fire's also cool.
Redpill me on the Ironhelm hammer. What is it good at, and when would I ever feel the need to use it?
>>564972576Is this a boy or a girl
>>564977379I'm so tired of homosexuals posting shit like this
>>564974575How do you deal with the low swap speed?
Why does the exalted double barrel shotgun look better than everything in the slopshop
>>564980091One Motion, and keeping the gun out as much as possible. It sprints like shit, which is fine, Deadshot doesn't want you to sprint much anyway. Yes, you will be kind of slow. This is only a problem with relatively fast pubs, which are rare as fuck. If you are in a fast group, don't go scouring every corner for ammo, you won't be able to keep up well.Only switch to your melee when you absolutely need it, and learn to weave through melee enemies with your gun out. You will have instances where you kind of spam dodges just to keep 2-3 poxwalkers off your ass while you shoot shooters dead. Be aware of your stamina management, you'll need to push once you're completely out of dodges.I didn't say that it's easy to play btw. Plasma is kind of piss easy, playing bolter well asks better basics of you.If you can't deal with the terrible equip time, just use the bolt pistol with the same build. Plays very similarly, just has less ammo and can't magdump.
>>564976436Agripinaa is the best general use. The mild advantages of a shotgun with a slug special to hit long range specials. Funny with high crit/man-stopper to slug pierce through everything to reach a target.Accatran is a solid side arm for zealot. Very high suppression, will put gunners to full suppressed state in a single shot. Flame shot is useful for burning out bulwarks or reaching out to barbeque snipers. Good enough close to mid range damage for removing nearby specials. High stagger lets it even bowl over a crusher fairly easily to make some space for yourself or a teammate in a pinch.Zarona, acceptable on a marksman's vet. Marksman extends its killing range for specials/gunners. combined with crits/manstopper boosts the killing power of its special shot to make it a general dreg/scab room clear rather than just a poxwalker remover. For when you want a discount kickback on vet.
Fatshark's new game should be revealed pretty soon You guys think it'll be another tide game or something else?
>>564982823I wont stand another Fatshark game, I give up.
>>564982823won' tit be UE5 slop?
>>564977371If you ever wanted the thunder hammer to be mildly useful outside of its one gimmick, Iron Helm works as a better general use weapon.It's a little worse damage at monsters than the crucis, but slightly better at dealing with elites since you can sweep through trash to reach your target.You can also use its powered sweep as a discount power sword for cutting down poxwalkers.Mixed attack types on both chains give it decent mixed group removal in its unpowered state while spamming attacks. Stacks well with zealot talents for attack speed to benefit your light spam, while still helping a little for heavy ( unfaltering talent of course for heavy spam purists.)Because you don't have to rely entirely on the one hit trick, you can even consider other blessings, like thunderous or the much loved skullcrusher.And for monsters the overhead strikedown heavy is accessed after a push, so it can squeeze out a little more damage with an energized hit if you care to
>>564982987as stupid as it sounds I think UE5 slop has potential. Their current dev team clearly doesn't know how to handle this engine anymore given the limited scope of all updates since launch, after which a huge chunk of the company left. I think UE5 could have 2 outcomes>They manage to replicate the base gameplay well, and now have a way easier engine to hire competent people for and keep developing the game meaningfully >They bungle it and their attempt at remaking a tide game in UE5 utterly fails and it's a dogshit flop that will have 200 players within 1 monthI know which is more likely of course but I still think the former is a distinct possibility
>>564982823Why would it be revealed anytime soon? The company has never been in more dire straits
>>564984169Their dev team has been growing so financially fatshark is fine
>>564984083>I think UE5 slop has potentialI still maintain that UE5 isn't a bad engine, it's just used by bad developers who just tick all of the features and never bother to optimize or turn off shit they clearly don't need.>simulation reflections for every raindrop>muh godrays
Just got "Your cock (caged)"
What if the scab trapper sat on your face right after netting you?
Is there a setting for me to wait as long as I need before it gets me into a mission with the condition of it finding me a team?
>>564986918Haha... that'd be pretty gross man. She's all grimy and stinky lol...
>>564984083Here's a 3rd outcome, most likely imo>They manage to replicate the base gameplay well because even a monkey can figure out how UE5 works, and now because they are swedes they will hire incompetent pajeet monkeys because even they can work with UE5, so the overall quality of the code will stay on the same level at best, except it runs x2 worse now and looks like any other butt-ugly UE5 game with all its problems and all the butt-ugly built-in effects enabled by default because they are to dumb to disable them
>>564982823On the one hand Fatshark is one of the only developers left in this genre. On the other hand they treat their customers like shit and release awful products that don't work. At this point I'd be happy if they just went under.
>>564984083It's more likely to flop because the guy who actually came up with and created Tide combat gameplay left the studio.
Anyone else get this retarded fucking shitsince updating? Already verified my files and found nothing and rebooted my computer and internet router too.
>>564988892"Backend" means the servers are fucked. Funny.
>>564989076Can't be that fucked because there's 5000+ people playing currently.
>>564988892Just tested, was able to log in just fine.The only time I had trouble logging in was related to my proxy settings, so check if you have a proxy running, and/or have it configured correctly.Have you tried verifying your files through the launcher, not just steam?Next best thing I can offer is reinstalling, but you probably considered and discarded that because downloading the game may take an entire evening with a slower connection.
>>564988316>>564987642>>564984169this
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1sxcl00/bots_dont_rez_anymore/He's alive!
>>564989186You could be the lucky 1% of users encountering the bug.
>>564988892had that happen last night
Anything to know in advance before giving Helldivers 2 a shot? I've basically been living under a rock when it comes to HD
>>564990885youll get bored after 1 hour or two, if you manage to get past that, enjoy the fucking grind
>>564972601>>564972859That and they are a religious order, so they're not always particularly concerned with genetic lineage. I'd expect a Genetor to be more attached to their genes than their contemporaries for obvious reasons.
>>564991384Damn that's a pretty good Kasrkin cosplay.
>>564989076>>564989193>>564989527>>564990162Got through! Basically spammed the log in until I got in.Though before this I purposefully let the >>564988892 error in this just stay on the screen for few minutes. Noticed it still says "Processing Inquisitorial Clearance" and thought as a harebrained idea, maybe it's still connecting/loading somehow?Probably just coincidence most likely however, but you never know with swede jank.
Fatshark made me hate Sweden.
>>564989457>skittles servoskull was autoreviving so they tasked senior intern to fix itthis is 99% what happened
>>564976436the one with the highest damage, but they are all aurics territory
>>564991821All marks of combat shotgun are, at worst, usable in havoc. Had some of the smoothest h40 runs early on with a pair of arbitrator chads both using the blue one (I think that's the horizontal spread?) and doing surprisingly good ranged damage according to Power DI. I think the incendiary one is probably the worst performing in havoc.Vet should certainly be able to make them quite useful.It's just obviously not optimal so there's no real reason to use them in havoc other than contrarian memeing, but it's hardly griefing.
Should I drop Warframe and pick up DRG instead? Warframe is fun and Im enjoying it but Ive heard the endgame is nothing but power fantasy room clearing with a single button. Which sounds like it'll be fun for about 2 hours before I get bored.
>>564993017>warfarmRun away, uninstall now, it's not fucking worth your time.
>>564993017Give DRG a shot, warframe will still be there if you don't like DRG.
>>564993226>last played 2014Isnt the game like a completely different game now
>>564993017They're not really similar to eachother in a mechanical way, so I wouldn't "drop" anything so much as just take a vacation and play something else. DRG is a fun game but you don't have to commit to it over other alternatives. With something like 3,000 hours in Warframe I've been on a long hiatus from it but the game is like smoking, you don't quit you just take breaks.
>>564993339I sincerely doubt they've done anything about the gameplay loop of grind grind grind RNG grind get mats wait 3 days for shit to craft grind grind grind trade your spares for paypiggy currency grind more grind grind do a little fashion with your paypiggy currency grind grind more grind and then have endgame of literally nothing, because it's always been like that, and the extremely shallow pool just got wider and wider until it was an ocean. Still doesn't go higher than up to your knee.>since 2014Honestly the main reason I never bothered going back is the amount of grandfathered bullshit the game no doubt has by now. I know how these fuckers operate. I bet there's a case of if you don't have some deprecated OP shit from 4 years ago that they made unavailable, then you don't have a build or some similarly gay shit.Warframe is an absolutely gorgeous piece of art, but the actual game is just such a fucking disappointment man. I'm still mad if you couldn't tell.
>>564990885Helldivers 2 is as fun as you want it to be, especially when you haven't become bored with the same damn tilesets on the same damn terrain with slightly different cosmetics on top. It is beyond me why Arrowhead hasn't added more variety to the "rural" maps after this long.
>>564993737I dont know how to feel about it myself. It feels like it's REALLY CLOSE a perfect game for me but it fumbles at the finish line. It's like the game has 40 different systems for powering yourself up and an endless ways to customize your build which is amazing, except none of them matter because everything just dies in 2 seconds anyway.
you know what the problem is with the other marks for the heavy stubber are, the full auto sounds dont line up on gorgonum, so it sounds like its firing faster than it actually is, and it didnt do that before; theres a half second firing delay when you pull the trigger that doesnt exist on the acklys but on the other two; and then you can hip fire single shots on the acklys, but the other two fire bursts. if they fix these, which they never will, the other two would be usable because of the newly added ammo refund.thanks for coming to my ted talk
>>564994016I feel like Warframe is perfect to just play casually. The less you know, and the less you attempt to learn, about the game, the better. If you just let the game do its thing and view it like one big adventure, it's probably extremely good considering how long they've had to polish all of those things.I just remember the endgame being not only asscancer to mindlessly grind through, but also completely pointless, and I don't see that having changed at all.More power to you if you're having fun with it, but I don't recommend making it The Game You Play.As the other anons said, DRG is worth picking up, even just casually, if you like dumb fun. Best with friends. I wish it had a bundle deal like L4D did where you can get 4 copies for the price of 3 to gift to your friends. Even if you don't have friends, the community is pretty accommodating and doesn't have many fags in it. If you're autistic and anti-social, the single player is actually good too, although your helper bot is so fucking good at mining it kind of shifts the meta into invalidating scout and de-prioritizing driller.
>>564991461Is it really
>>564994568Have you been to conventions? The bar is not high, I promise.
>>564990885Remap stratagem inputs to your arrow keys immediately. Enable the setting that's something like "remember my weapon settings".If you don't stand still to fire and additionally crouch and prone when applicable you won't hit anything. Diving is really important, and so is stimming when you think you're about to get fucked by damage.Eagle strafing run and MG sentry are some of the strongest stratagems in their categories and you start with them, never underestimate those and spam your shit.I think anything more would just be information overload. Just get in there, try stuff out, and be a gamer.
kek finally got this from playing brainburst in the new event
>>564995850>playing brainburst in the new eventthe event is actually perfect for dumb builds like this cause there's no filler trash forcing you to pull out your melee. I did most of mine just running around brain burst only with the dubble shield and it was a lot of fun
>>564994637>Have you been to conventions?I live in the middle of nowhere surrounded by ocean on a landmass smaller than 99 percent of the world so no
>>564997149Let's just say that the people who make cosplay are usually not professional fashion designers or tailors.
Psyker should get a melee weapon that's a force axe + staff that works like the deflector blessing but also helps blocking melee attacks.
>>564984169>Why would it be revealed anytime soon?To garner new potential investors? Gaining new hype from the game community who might get interested enough in to check darktide and vermintide, which would then give Fatshark more money?Though I don't think they'll be revealing a new game just yet, maybe next year in 2027 summer when Darktide is around 4.5 years old.
>>564994560I've been playing on and off myself since the warframe Ember used to be a dude, and I can confidently say it's not really worth jack shit nowadays. I don't regret the time I put in, but I dislike how a lot of updates effectively made a lot of old builds useless on top of the nightmarishly shitty grind you're made to go through in the first place to get a weapon up to an acceptable point.
>>564998878>a lot of updates effectively made a lot of old builds useless on top of the nightmarishly shitty grind you're made to go throughYeah I don't regret quitting back in 2014, thanks for dissuading me from ever picking it up. I should probably remove it from my library entirely.
>>564996186Yeah except it takes 3 bbs to kill a maulerI don't know what were they thinking but some seeds are legit harder than havoc
>>564999393>be ogryn>PBB, BLO>shoot rumbler>hehe thump thump thump thump boom boom BOOM BOOM>everything fucking dies>it even staggers daemonhosts for some retarded reason>rapes bosses somehow without unyielding perk or sticky blessing>free W even on 300 ping while drunk
Is PBB rumbler LOOGER viable in havoc finally?
>>565001342It was never bad, taunt was just always objectively better in every way because PBB does so little for the rumbler. Now a single activation gives you back ~7 ammo, so it's actually solid. Probably still worse than bringing taunt and just having nobody else pick up ammo, ofc.
is poxclick still zooooooooom-dump aggro-point at endgame stats-debate about the best way to get +0,1% dps on the rusty pipe while the swedes are on vacation?~~1,5 y break
>>565002830No, it's more about izzat farming, having meltdowns over havoc, and autistically obsessing over "winning" online arguments and then pivoting into gay ERP when you're laughed at for being retarded
>>565001342PBB is kinda meme for rumbler because it's biggest boon is instant reload button and you only get it once on a huge cdIncreased reload speed is nice I guess but buff itself is not worth mentioning
>>565003192Brittleness blessing + burn stacking does yield quite a decent damage increase from PBB, I wouldn't so readily discard it. The reload speed is also felt, but not that huge of a deal imo.
>>564963583I think I'll keep my mark vii, this looks kind of weird.
>>565007661God I hate Primaris Marines.
>>565001342They need to give point blank barrage gold toughness for the team for it to be worth using.
Why is the bolt pistol so ass. The animations have so much recoil you can barely aim the thing.
>>565012153Just hit with your first shot
>>565010639Lmao
I fucking love scumming. I can't stop scumming on them heretics uaaahhhhhh
How important is it?
>>565016974>he thinks everyone knows all the talents by their fucking icons
>>565016974its shit
>>5650169740%
Are /sm2g/ fags here?Any news?
>>565017325Yeah, honestly as soon as I posted that shit I realized my mistake and felt incredibly retarded.
>>565017616I think it's good specifically on a shock trooper + infernus recon lasgun build where you're committed to killing as many enemies with your gun as possible, but outside of that just skip it.
>>565017551Both darktide and sm2 are waiting for Warhammer Skulls. It is extremely obvious they are holding things in reserve for announcement during it.
>>565018139When is that?SM2 has monthly news but with the general gone I'm not sure where to go and get my news.
>>565018321may-ish or october, i feel like it was august one year
>>565017928And what about an Infantry Lasgun build with infernus but no Shock Trooper focused on using the gun as little as possible?
>>565018601Focused on using *melee as little as possible
>>565018724you need shocktrooper
>>565018801Is it really that important? I thought the Infantry Lasgun's thing was being incredibly ammo efficient.
You can tell they put a lot of thought and effort into the game because they even implemented a fake feeling recoil on the lasguns, as it is in the lore! Can't wait to try the auto guns.
>>565019010it effectively increases your mag size, you want that since reloading will mean death
>>565019010and it is but if you insist on shooting as much stuff as you want you'll still want shock trooper
>>565019139>>565019251Guess I'll give it a try, but man 3 perk points are hard to come buy.
>>565018139its like in a month or something
>>565019546if yoiure not going for the headshots as rooty tooty point and shooty, what are you doing
>>565018321May 22nd
Why is every post about Darktide nowIs the game like super good now?
>>565022490Me in the back>>565022897Always was
>>565023050You sure about that?
>>565022490is that when I get my FUCKING genestealers?
>>565023298English reviews are mostly positive. I don't care what you 3rd worlders think
>>565022897>nowthis has been the darktide general ever since it came out, except for a brief period around helldivers 2 launch
>>565022897It's the game with the most staying power because it doesn't premise itself as a joke and the devs actually made improvements to the game instead of just letting shit designs ride forever.
>>565019546I use something like this for lasgun builds.It gives you your choice of keystone between left and middle, trench fighter drill to make the power sword a bit less of a pain in the ass to use, all grenade talents, and a point to spare. If you take focus target you have an extremely good boss killing potential since you have maxed out krak grenades, especially if you also take the focused fire subnode. If you take marksman's focus and the chink in the armor subnode, you can get 25% ranged rending when you're at max stacks since you also have rending strikes in the build. And I guess if you wanted even more ranged damage you could switch the ability to executioner's stance.
>>565024874How do you people play without Only In Death?
>>565024874Hope you die irl
>>565025074put ally res on your curios
>>565023438Swedish game btw, 3rd worlder mutt
>>565023841Why hasnt it gotten its own general like Warframe then
>>565025946If i wanted my own comeback, then i would just have wiped it off your chin
>>565026045because they like to pretend they like all co-op games, just not one specific co-op game that flopped hard over three years ago
The browncel is here and he's desperate for your attention
>>565026156>canned reddit comeback >gets the verbiage wrong and fucks it up because he's ESLlmao
>>565026664You really don't want to address the fact that you just went>no u!Do you?
>sm2 refugee posting in a general that generously took him in and that only exists because of darktide>hey, why don't the darktide posters just go away?Why do all turd world refugees attack the native population?
>>565026664>calls him esl>uses "verbiage" incorrectlyYou're so fucking brown.
>confronted with reality, he lashes out with anger and tribalism
Favorite taxnode?Mine is +10% toxin strength.
>>565027547https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/verbiage>manner of expressing oneself in words : diction
>>565027774>the esl is seriously trying to brownsplain my own language to me"Phrasing" is the correct word. Keep your word usage simpler so you don't make a fool of yourself again
>>564999040>>564998878I think it's fun, it's just more dopamine obsessed than I was hoping.The best way I can describe it is it's gripping, but it's not engaging.
>>565028992>brownsplainkek
>>564998878>>565029014For the last several years the only thing I have done in Warframe is turn on the loudest ear raping EDM I have and kill everything with an overpowered gold katana. I played the game since beta and my movement mechanics are disgusting to the point that I it puts me in a flow state and I can do anything in the game with my brain off.
>>565028992>n-no you can't use merriam webster to prove you used the word right, you should listen to my emotional whining insteadzip it queer
>>565029585You clearly haven't read a single book that was written in english in your entire life
>>565029776more emotional lashout because you got btfo by a dictionary
>>565027774I know you're too illiterate to know this, but that link literally proves you wrong.
>>565030045You're giving me 2nd hand embarrassment>>565030117It really isn't fair that we have to suffer the retardation of turd worlders like him
>no /sm2g/Grim. Anyway, is the stalker bolt rifle really worth grinding into?
>>565030551no, but they'll make a heroic of it in 2027 maybe, so yes
>>565030551its pretty good
>>565028992>"Phrasing" is the correct word.
>>565030626You don't get to infiltrate white spaces and impose your own interpretation of their language>>565031116>if you stretch it a mile long and twist it into a pretzel then i'm right!This is why i said this >>565029776No one who understands english ever uses the word this way. It's an obvious sign that you're not a native english speaker
>>565031340>the dictionary is wrong, people don't use it that way! how desperate!
>>565031116Love seeing the south asian writhe after trying to correct you. Him suggesting the exact synonym as a correction is impressive. Of course, there is too much izzat on the line, so he has to wriggle and bend himself out of shape to pretend he knows better than merriam webster. This is a good post, I love seeing this particular brown get spanked.
>>565031340>goalpost shifted from "you used the wrong word" to "the word is correct but a native english speaker would not use it"pathetic backpedal
You guys are so funny I always get a chuckle out of these slap fights
>>565028992He seems to know your language better than you because his word usage was correct, if uncommon
>links to dictionary definitions of words I guess I shouldnt be surprised to see it here, but damn this really is the most autistic general on the board
>>565031451I can post a dozen sources that debunk this. I wouldn't be surprised if you faked the dictionary screenshot>>565031768>>565031891No. Missing a word or adding a word to quote or joke is not called "using the wrong verbiage". There is no possible way to cope your way out of it by pointing out that it is incommonly used as a synonym in other completely contextsAre you beginning to understand why you are wrong and retarded or is your ego and stupidity preventing you from learning?
>>565032150>it's correct, burmt uncommon in completely different contexts so he's rightDon't join arguments that you are too retarded to understand
You're anonymous btw. You can just disappear and pretend like you never misused the word "verbiage"
Verbiage
vêrbïàgé
*robotic fart*My apologiesThe sacred filters did not fully sanctify the output. The olfactory disturbance indicates lingering biological weakness, an echo of flesh I have not yet purged. This displeases me
For the SM2 players in here, screenshot isn't mine.Apparently U13's update page is gonna be a whole ass novel.
>>565034720single or triple space
>>565034771Triple Space Marine is the next game
Are player outlines broken in Darktide? I dont notice anything.
>>565034607brother, why must you consume the Cheesy Chicken Quesadilla Crunchwrap Supreme digestive cartridge every time we are boarding a valkyrie?I am beginning to suspect there is a purpose behind your actions, a complaint will be forwarded to the magos
>decide to try heavy las pistol with executioner stance>is basically a helbore with no charge up that you can hipfire with dead accuracy>the only thing it's shit against is crushers>combine it with marksman focus makes your toughness regen so fast you can't die unless you throw yourself into a mauler/crusher swarmSo what's the point of the helbore again?
>>565037331>So what's the point of the helbore again?AFIX BAYONETS
>>565037331Helbore was nerfed years ago though
>>565037331kills crushers
>>565037331>So what's the point of the helbore again?embracing your inner chud
>>565038780>kills the least threatening enemy in the gameGrim state for helbore chuddies.
you guys aren't gonna believe me when I say this, I even had to check the last thread just to be sureI had a dream I made a meme of what the rejects would have from the McDonalds breakfast menu and Ogryn would have everything on the menuand for some reason that meme chart I made gotten so many you's, like way too many
>>565046762>what the rejects would have from the McDonalds breakfast menu and Ogryn would have everything on the menuCringe.
I want the gameplay of Darktide with the rats of Vermintide.
Rat clickers be like:"I wish i could play the sims 4 except with rats"
I wish i could play the sims 4 except with rats
>>565030551possibly the best bolt weapon tactical has access to, closely followed by hbr.
>>565049079Yes. Whiskerwood isn't a Sims game but is close at least.
>Officer Manlytears
>>564973703can't speak for havoc, but in auric this top-heavy setup slaps. Solves the two main problems of the bolter. Rest of the buid is whatever you prefer.
>>565032243Could be worse. I watched /twg/ get occupied by cropped gay lizard porn. I have not returned since.
>>565056083it was thematic, in lore lizardmen have trouble reproducing because skaven fuck up their spawning pools
>>565017616for a double shotty build with which you always fire both barrels it's a flat 10% crit on ranged. put manstopper and flechette, get some reload perks or that weapon specialist reload node and you got yourself a handcannon with infinite cleave (bar carapace)
>come back to the game after over a year and update all my mods>game crashes whenever I try to open the options menuThis is exactly why I haven't played in so long, because I knew how much of a fucking headache it was gonna be troubleshooting shit like this.
>>565058974>be not completely fucking retarded>check the console log>identify the problem within minutesModding is unironically an IQ check and it looks like you didn't pass it.
What the fuck do I do after reaching lvl 30 in DarkTide and having my buld done? Just rinse and repeat quick plays?
>>565059282You play the game and have fun. If you need extrinsic dopamine, you should unironically, genuinely, I mean this from the bottom of my heart, consider getting therapy.On the off-chance that you're just the casino tard, consider either suicide or playing gachaslop instead.
>>565059395Ah ok thanks
>>565059282>>565059662Realistically, if you do want long-term goals, you can always get started on doing your penances. One of each character, all weapons maxed, all the other grindy bullshit, try to become good enough at the game to solo carry auric maelstrom consistently on every class, then get into grinding havoc.You should probably at least win a maelstrom and get into the babby levels of havoc anyway, because it has a weekly resource payout as long as you win 1 havoc each week. Although I'm not 100% sure at what level it becomes worth the effort compared to just playing aurics.
>>565059236Yeah I know about that. It appeared Settings Extension was causing it but considering how integral that is to the functionality of other mods I didn't want it to be that and started coping.
>>564989457so he didn't leave
>>564993017I still don't get how people can spend so much time in this piece of shit save for the fact it's free
>>565017325I knew it because am a touchstarved loner
>>565060895I've got something for you to touch right here*unzips dick*
>>565064794Why is there a zipper on your dick, that sounds unhealthy
>>565065319To keep the smegma in
>>565060416So what did you do
I stopped playing HD2 actively a while ago, but holy shit this is some insane monkey's paw>fanbase begs them to stop buffing enemies durable damage, and to buff mechs since they get destroyed instantly all the time>devs release a paid warbond with mech variants>finally buff mechs like the players wanted in the same update>however they also buff the durable damage of all enemies, which essentially cancels out the buff to mechs, and it also makes anything that isn't a mech much weaker in the processGenuinely hilarious, I'm starting to think there's something in the water that makes swedes this way
>>565069653why do they have such a boner for "you're expected to die", aren't they shitty players themsleves
>>565069734they playtest on d6 and are appalled that people can play d10 easily
>>565070026>on d6 Lol. Rofl even.
>>565058974>Cheater filtered by his cheats not workingAnd stay out!
>Position in Queue: 1What I haven't seen that in years
>>565071384
>>565068205Disabled it. Don't know what else I'm supposed to do if the mod is broken and hasn't gotten an update to fix it.
>>565060416>>565072424Settings extension isn't used for shit except for one graphics mod
>>565007661I know it's modeled after plastic figurines but why does it have to look like it's made of plastic?
>lvl 1300 hive scum>instantly runs to the end of the mission>kills the piled up enemies with tox grenadeYawn
>>565073845Anon's screencap has fucked up gamma settings.
>>565073917>anon>dies like a bitch with the other 2 retards>gets hard carried>complains about it
>>565074943Nope. No one died
>>565075291>>instantly runs to the end of the missionOkay then just say you lied and don't even play darktide, because this is impossible if another player is alive and anchoring the team down. Too many gay checkpoints that require everyone to be present.
>>565024848Honestly kinda crazy too, because FartShart keeps trying to kill the game by releasing buggy updates and dogshit game modes nobody wants to play.I tried to QP expeditions yesterday afternoon EU time and it was DEAD. Yes, I was queueing for Malice too.Absolutely grim.
How do we fix expeditions?
>>565075551>I tried to QP expeditions yesterday afternoon EU time and it was DEAD. >Yes, I was queueing for Malice too.Can confirm, it's pretty much fucking dead lmao.At least grinding mats in zeta is relaxing without braindead retards constantly stalling for objectives, or trying to grief by calling the valk early.
>>565075727The game mode isn't even fun, btw. Idk what drugs were used to lace the crack they usually smoke when it came to designing this piece of shit game mode.It's so bad it basically made me quit the game.RELEASE NEW FUCKING REGULAR MISSIONS YOU SWEDENIGGERS
>>565075451It was water purification torrent mission. You don't need your team to run through it, retardI know speed running is very important to you and the rest of the trans community, but you don't have to sperg out whenever someone finds it boring to play with you
>>565075890>Idk what drugs were used to lace the crack they usually smoke when it came to designing thisCorpo trend-chasing, probably. Muh extraction shooter, muh kerneldivers. Don't forget the announcement post making expeditions out to be extremely feature-rich. It technically is that, if you view it exclusively as a deservedly long list of bullet points counting all the individual things that needed changing to implement the mode. You'd be surprised what kind of retarded bullshit you can get away with selling as features when the dumbfuck non-gamer suit in charge of the operation doesn't even know what the gameplay looks like lol.
>>565076063>I'm too slow and retarded to move and fight, much less keep up>this is your fault because uhh... it just is!>TRANNY! TRANNY! EVERYONE IS TRANSGENDER!lmao take your meds faggot
>>565076331>xe is throwing a fullblown tantrum nowWow. You really took the tranny comment personally. And you wonder why peoppe hate you?
>>565076578>acts retarded>gets called retarded>um ur having a tantrumGenuinely delusional
>>565076183I work in software, I know exactly how that goes.I'm still immeasurably disappointed, it just shows they're asleep at the wheel completely. Whoever is in charge needs to get canned ASAP.
>>565075692Remove maliceReward 1/3 aquila per 1000 tech remnants per difficulty (as in 1 aquila for 3000 tech in heresy or 1000 tech in auric)Watch third worlders flood inAt least it's gonna be funny
>>565070026>they playtest on d6Really? I remember seeing a stream months ago and they struggled on D4
>>565076063You have the elevator after the bridge and maybe that long hallway with the big doors(I don't know how they work if the team is split up widely) keeping you together. So at most this guy could have done maybe half the mission on his own, assuming that long hallway doesn't force you to wait.
>>565076685The fact that i waited for you to out yourself as a retarded tranny just makes this win even sweeter. Better luck next time?
>>565077179>tranner coded HUD
>>565077179First you complain about a guy running forward, now you call the (obviously carried) win sweet, which one is it fuckboy?
>>565070026>>565070026>64.6 was the number they initially played on, but subtly dropped the number even lower thinking no one would notice. When the community called them out on playing 3's during their supposed dev testing, the icon was removed the very next patch.
>>565077465There seems to be some kind of mistake in your brown-speak to english auto translator because you obviously have no idea what is going on
You and me, pal. Strongest there is.
I alone, am the white one in coopg...
>>565077792Try to keep up next time anon, bots are faster than you.
>>565077903You and me both, anon.
>>565078000Yeah, you have clearly given up now and are just looking to annoy me as punishment for dunking on youTrolling works best when the target is dumber than you, and you're not likely to find a lot of people like that
>>565078534>Trolling works best when the target is dumber than you
>>565078697And then i said that you're not likely to find a lot of people like that. I said this because you're very retarded
Give me the Felinid class, Fatshark! I want my catgirls!
>>565077179Goddamn you are one of the most miserable niggers I have ever seen on this board. I've only started lurking here again recently and I'm already able to recognise you by how much of a snarky faggot you are during the pointless Internet arguments you're always getting into.
>>565081297Oh great. Another schizo
Another day, another melty.
Is Lock and Load essential for a plasma gun? I'm sure it must be nice but is it worth the 2 talent points?
are there any coop fps games that are closer towards milsim than arcade? they all seem very arcadey. it makes sense, but are there any that are the other way? full pve and the whole game is that, not just some optional mode.
>>565085051There's a couple of those.Ready or Not, Operator, Zero Hour...They're alright.
>>565085346Ready or Not is a censored downgraded console garbage.
How do we solve the CRUSHER issue? Any weapon incapable of dealing with them is sent to the junk pile unless they have some other utility.
Hello Im retarded..
MECHANUSSY WHENWHEN
>>565085592It is? How’s that?
>>565087365>How do we solve the CRUSHER issue?give them a non carapace weakspot or give their armor sections a max amount of damage they can absorb and then break off to unyielding armor underneath
>All the hive scum penances that are just 'do lots of drugs'This is penance is it?
>>565088492
>>565089120The Emperor puts many trials and challenges ahead of us, it is not for us to question them only obey. Now inject these blessed combat stimulants directly into your veins until the Emperor tells you to stop.
>>565076840>struggled on D4Jesus, I'm not even good at the game and I could solo D4 with barely any of the warbonds or stratagems unlocked.
>>565089674Hestia pls, this is literally krokodil. It's going to eat my face off from the inside.
>>565090175And give you an extra 8% crit chance while doing so, get jabbing
>>565089365PC version was downgraded because the devs are too lazy to maintain two versions. The game started as a PC exclusive title, and people supported it because it tried to be realistic with how brutal the crimes world can be.A lot of sensitive stuff like gore and drugs scenes, aka one of the main selling points, which were heavily advertised during the early access, were removed from PC version when they ported the game to consoles.Graphics in PC version were downgraded to hell and back to match console peasant toasters.Basically the devs baited the PC players to support them and once the game got big enough they fucked them over to get those sweet console shekels.
>Check darktide forums>Discussion about new class>Faggots spam their unfunny scribe joke again>Close forums
>>565090589>pcucks got shrektcinema
Can someone post the datamined Skitussy things? I forgot to save the screencap
>>565091770>still can play the uncensored game thanks to mods>can refund the game because steam allows that even after the refund window if the game was changed drastically>consolefags are forever stuck with the snoy approved cucked versioncinema indeed
Anyone else feel like Sienna and Saltzpyre were done dirty with their DLC classes?>Saltzpyre is a fanatic sigmarite to a ridiculous degree>Starts losing faith>Does the expedition to the chaos wasted and gets involved with belakor, which apparently has done in sigmar worshippers before>Suffers no repercussions, comes out as a warrior priest with magic powers and stronger faith than ever beforeWould have been much more interesting for him to lose his faith and become.. a vampire, for example. They could have kept his weapons, and re-record all the wonderful Tim Bentinck voicelines. We would have seen an entirely different and interesting new Saltzpyre.And sienna is just... sad. First of all, it makes little sense that kruber with his history with necromancy wouldn't kill her (but he became a grail knight, so believability went out the window anyway). And then it's a total inversion of where her story went. She was supposed to come to terms with her past and find peace. Instead, she is apparently possessed by her sister... basically erased. They didn't re-record voice lines either, she still gushes about fire and flame all the time.
>>565093514>Vampsaltz faggot at it againLol.
>>565093514>Saltpyre>Vampire>VampyreOMG!!!!!
>>565092813>still can play the uncensored game thanks to modsIn other words, there was no point to all the prior tears.
>>565017551Yes. Just post here
What is one weapon you wish was in Darktide and/or SM2?
>>565095609There was. It's called principle and dignity and not being a bootlicker.
>>565096987Power claws for the catgirls. Lorefags, I know nothing concrete about either of these things. Could it hypothetically work?
>>565096990So they still got shrekt. Cool.
>>565097678No, for the simple reason that there is no official art or depictions of felinids ever made, and GW won't let FartShart to make their own design for them due to resulting copyright fuckery.It's the same reason why all ogryns in Darktide are male, female ogryns do exist, but GW isn't gonna let Fatshark come up with a design for them.
>april 28th>still no april community update for SM2I don't feel so good...........
>>565097678We have maybe a few lines of lore about felinids and no art.>>565099137In all seriousness, I think Saber is moving most of it's resources to making SM3 and they are possibly dragging their feet to have something big for skulls day
>>565096987Some kind of Sword and Board for Zealot
how the fuck do you do this when all they do is leap out of the floor 99% of the time
>>565101669I assume some people just farm a story mission where there's a guaranteed spawn and kill it there.
>>5650969872h chainsword for SM2melta for darktide
>>565082819not worth it
>>565097678>>565099009written descriptions of felinid claws once described their claws as the length of a human forearm, so I don't know how much mileage they're going to get out of melee weapons in the first place
>>565097678It could work based off like, the two descriptions we have of felinids, but otherwise it’s not happening for reasons already stated.>>565100707>already moving onto SM3I wouldn’t doubt it but it’s grim nonetheless.
>>565096987Heavy bolter or plasma cannon for ogryn.
>>565096987I'm not gonna list one.PowerfistsChainfistsCombi-weaponsServo arm weaponsPower axeMeltas, sidearm and rifle variantsHotshot lasPlasma pistolVolkite weapons, sidearm and rifleLightning clawsPower maulLascannon, manportableI'd also like them all to be a lot more customisable through a Jokaero vendor on the Mourningstar, like fiddling with sights and other weapon parts. I don't care if some of these are too rare for rejects, or if it makes no sense for a particular class to have something, or bump up the power scaling too far, or GW says no. I want what I want, even if it's never going to happen.
>>565082819its only worth it on guns like the double barrel and cowboy revolver and even then on vet you can just take the weapon specialist reload node which is better. You can take similar nodes on arbies, scum and zealot if you want to do a tripple barrel meme for fun
>>565107568>its only worth it on guns like the double barrelIirc alt fire will still shoot only two ammo, so you can't use it with Both Barrels bless. And I honestly don't know what drives someone to use double barrel without it, like any other weapon would feel and perform better than Always Prepared jerking. But then again these two talents are counter-productive to each other.
>>565109291both barrels just requires you to kill something
>WOW! Cool looking Kasrkin style helmet for Veteran>actually looks new-ish, instead of quick kitbash of vanilla helm>even got a fucking neck cover>...>it's for ZealotFUCKING SWEDEN
>>565111965cosmetics are outsourced to chinkmenistan
>>565034720Yeah but when is it?
>>565034720and bolters will still suck
>>565111965>looks new-ishIt's not, already a bunch of reskins of the visor less version around.
>>565105348>Jokaero vendorMaybe when the plot actually moves along and we learn more about Grendyl and his outlook. One day.
>>565111965Looks like a lot of helms combined into one with the googles, visor, old event skulls bit, and rebreather bits.
The recon lasgun is pretty fun.
>>565034720Will it fix the long ass load times?
Dorktide anons, anyone else had issues with people staying connected in game?
>>565117476Always had people leaving and disconnecting
>>565117476>Someone woke up the Daemonhost>Disconnect
>>565117846>aggro daemonhost as zealot>walk near ledge>about to chorus it>some faggot leaves before I can even finish yeeting it offWhat compels these sub-humans to alt+F4 at the sight of a healthbar?
>>565089674>Get Poxclick>First character is Zealot>Hestia is super nice to you>Waifu.png>Make Psyker later>Go up to Hestia>She’s suddenly stern and outright hostile>learn how different characters and backgrounds are treated differently by the cast>Sad because waifu hates me now>Realize that since I’m a psyker, Sefoni is suddenly very flirty>You win some you lose some
>>565111965why does he need goggles if his helmet already has a visor
>>565112153Cosmetic being outsourced to the chinks has no bearing on what class can wear the cosmetic. It's all up to Fatshark and their whims.
>>565119681GW probably has a say in this, they did for VT2
>>565119836Probably, it is certainly possible, but it still hardly makes no sense.>should we give this guardsman flak helmet to the ACTUAL guardsman class>or do we give it to the random murder hobo priestsAgain, this shit is just Fatshark itself being retarded. GW is a pain in the ass to deal with because it's borderline schizophrenic, but Fatshark itself does lot of retarded shit too.
>>565111965Why would visored helmet need extra goggles on top of it?
>>565122732ching-chong we no understand, we remix we make new thing, you pay us five dorra
assault-kun is always kino
>>565120361It takes two to tango and both of them definitely signed off on it.
>>565070026>>565077671The highest they ever cracked it to was 8 when they did that AMA/Livestream after they nerfed the Coyote and they failed every mission except 1 AFAIR.Someone really needs to make an in-depth study on why game developers are notoriously shit at their own games.Nobody expects any game dev to be the best at their own game or even top ranked.But the correlation between being completely detached from your playerbase and not even being decent at the game you made has become significantly more noticeable.Gamers basically have to force devs these days to actually play their own fucking game just to get an understanding of how fucking retarded they themselves are.
>>565077671what is this? you can reload your frens weapon?
>>565129537western devs, eastern devs are actually good at the game, but their games turn into cbt very quickly
>>565129537Its the same way with Space Marine 2.
WHOOPS! ALL RAGERS!
We love rehashed game mechanics here chud.
>>565069653I stopped playing around the battle of super earth when I realized the war was on rails and nothing mattered. Fuck joel for making something cool boring
Actual new ability datamine leak:"81479f6c": "Swap to your Secondary Weapon. Your weapon locks onto enemies close to your targeting reticule, granting you inhuman accuracy. You gain {spread:%s} Spread and {recoil:%s} Recoil for its duration.\n\nWhile active, you drain {capacitance:%s} {capacitance_keyword:%s} per second, and an additional {capacitance:%s} per shot. The Ability is disabled if you switch from your Secondary Weapon, if you reach {zero_capacitance:%s} {capacitance_keyword:%s} and {zero_charges:%s} Charges, or if you can reactivate it.\n\nIf used at {two_charges:%s} Charges or above, gain {cleave:%s} Ranged Cleave and {crit_chance:%s} Ranged Critical Strike Chance.",
>>565141574(2/2)Flesh is weak, but metal is strongAlpha Primus Skitarians are a special class of operatives, blessed chosen soldiers of the Machine God, with remarkable mental and physical augmentations that go far beyond the capabilities of other Skitarians. The non-linear structure of their talent tree provides unique opportunities for creating your own unique builds. Each Skitarii fighter inspires fear in their opponents, so here you will be at your service from a ruthless marksman with an impeccable deadly sight to a fanatical Omniscient Adept, who skillfully cuts through flesh with a devastating insatiable transonic blade or creates living electrical storms.Built for warSkitarii are bound by the rules of the Adeptus Mechanicus doctrines, but you will never find two fighters alike. Create your own Skitarii, choosing your own material types, augmentation schemes and the forge world from which your character came. Choose from four voice actors with the ability to customize the timbre of the voice that best suits the created configuration.The Sacred Arsenal of the OmniscientSkitarii have access to a comprehensive arsenal of weapons, jealously guarded by the Adeptus Mechanicus armorers. Among the variety of combat gear you will find legendary arc weapons, electric batons, blinding phosphorous blasters, surgically thick transonic blades and powerful galvanic rifles. This incomprehensible force often proves deadly to the unaugmented.
>>565142174A commissar would NOT do that…
>>565142887A commissar just did do that
How's Far Far West?
>>565143837It's alright (I only saw the steam page reviews and don't actually own the game)
>>565143837it's fun, I've been playing it all day
post a far far west robot skin that has thighs, ass, and tits, and I'll buy it now
But over a week for skittles reveal
>>565143837The demo was really fun, but I'm concerned how long will it last considering all it has is a handful of pre-made maps.
>>565143837looks cool, I'm probably going to buy it tomorrow
Any VT2 news?
>>565152203Yes. They are adding sprint and slide mechanics
>>565129636Yes, but they have to wear your backpack, meaning you lose the ability to reload the weapon yourself, and they have to stick to you like glue if you ever want to reload.
>>565152441Woah, fucking epic
So uhh apparently we're getting something called the "Farto-Fatulent" class which is basically just a lo-bottom-ized human that farts enemies to death?
Why the fuck is Darktide so badly optimizedI should've just gotten into Vermintide instead.
>>565157012don’t jinx it they just might actually do this in the future
>>565158395More likely than the sisters of butthole
>>565158316AMD moment
>>565158316Use DLSS4 and it'll run ok and look almost like you're playing native res. If you experience something else you might need to play a couple games for the shader cache to build for everyhting It legit runs quite well with DLSS4 and turning raytracing off
>>565158316VT2 has better gameplay anyway
>>565158316im on an intel gpu and I get about 40 fps in H40 when theres any decent amount of enemies on the screen. goes to like 30s when a rotten armour horde dies
any rat news ?
>>565160581lol it looks like the rat is holding a controller and laughing
>>565160581>smacking at me0 manners these creatures
>>565160581I can't believe there are actually people on /twg/ that want to fuck these things
>>565158316you have a bad cpu, if youre running darktide poorly, vermintide is not going to be any better, maybe even worse, since i had more problems with running it than darktide on my old pc
>>565161881Wanna know something even worse? There are “people” here right now who want to fuck those things.
Got a rat on my cock as we speak
>>565161881they came from here
Got that tight rat puh bouncing on my dih crazy style
>>565164523Vermintide is about killing ratsWarhammer: total war is about being a ratRatfuckers came from /twg/
>>565166269nope, thats historical revisionism, they came from here first then migrated everywhere else
>>565166634Nah i'm just being straight up with y'all. Ratfuckers ain't from around these parts
>Guy sees a golden retriever >"Bro that's exactly like The Emperor from 40k!"Why are 40kfags like this?
Are there any Linux-fags able to confirm that playing Darktide installed with Steam that ISN'T from Flatpak will make expeditions work instead of being stuck in endless loading screen?I am planning on installing Fedora 44 KDE for this to be done.Preferably a screenshot showing the terminal command helps with showing authenticity.
>>565168192Browns really just be making shit up to be mad about
>>565168192Autism is why.It is the curse and blessing of 40k but mostly a curse.Also there are Russians and Ukrainians using purity seals on their gear and a "regiment" for lack of a better word is called "The Khorne Group." So 40k is pretty big. Maybe Darktide helped make 40k get even more bigger.
>>565168418Purity seals are fucking cool though, I guarantee you western militaries are just buttmad they didn't think of doing it first.
>>565169708they didn't think of doing it because wax seals don't bind to metal, hence why the stamps are made of metal
>>565170052Wax wouldn't hold up in battlefield conditions, so it would be a poor choice even if they worked around it, probably shouldn't even use paper for the script either, cloth would work better.
Write prayers to Nurgle on toilet paper and stick it to my clothes using shitCall it a Poopoopee Seal
>>565170460
>>565166269or maybe warhammer, autism and furry fandom overlap a lot.
>>565129537modern devs and studios got actual contempt for the genre. Used to be 60% nepobabies carried by actual humans now it's 60% nepo 30% DEI and 10% actual devs fired at the end of a project because we wouldn't want to pay for their experience
>>565129537>game developers are notoriously shit at their own gamesThe ability to make a game does not translate to ability to play the game, these are two incredibly different skillsets and it's not a mystery to anyone who can actually think things through.
>>565178027>>565129537That is a bad excuse and doesn't view the full picture.Being bad at the game you're developing isn't necessarily shameful. Not acknowledging that, however, is extremely shameful.Not hiring someone that actually knows their shit, or hiring such a person and then just completely ignoring their feedback, is the worst of it.I acknowledge that game design and balance aren't easy, I've done a lot of it myself, because feedback from all demographics is valuable, and you have to read between the lines from low skill retards (thing is bad -> system isn't communicated in a way that a moron can understand), but just completely abandoning even attempting to balance the higher difficulties properly is such a common occurrence that kind of baffles me. Literally just hire a group of autists to theorycraft and try to break the game for you. Hell, a lot of them would unironically do it for free.And I'm not talking about sycophantic playtester content creatoids, I'm talking the autists that actually just care about the game and will call you retarded if you do something retarded, because they're too autistic to have a filter. I've always valued highly autistic feedback in game dev, even if it was often poorly communicated. But no, aposematic-haired bi-racial they/thems in HR will throw a nuclear passive-aggressive tantrum over ableism.
>>565178519A lot of game devs these days aren't enthusiasts for the hobby like in ages past, they've gone through an education pipeline, they've nominally learned the skills and are just in the field seeking a livable wage. Being good or even just okay at video games requires a time investment they simply don't perform.>ignoring feedbackQA testing has fallen by the wayside in general because it is unironically cheaper (re: free) to get your players to beta test for you. For swedish people in particular however, there's some sort of weird ego issue going on with them where criticism is always taken badly and gets them extremely passive aggressive about it.So there's basically no way for players to talk around it, if the criticism is too harsh, they lock up and dig in. If it's not harsh enough, they don't view it as a problem and procrastinate on the issue for years. There's literally no sweet spot where you can convince them to get to work.
>>565179094>QA testing has fallen by the wayside in general because it is unironically cheaper (re: free) to get your players to beta test for you.Yes, I understand and agree with that. That's what the concept of test clients exists for. Most games publish through Steam, and Steam has that function natively baked in; you either make a public test where players just have to select the version in their settings, or a private test and hand out invites or keys to it.It is so fucking retarded, from a business perspective, to neglect this.>game with multiple difficulties>always online slop as a service>genuinely massive amounts of telemetryIt would be so stupidly easy to just automatically invite players from different demographic groups to play the beta, and flag the corresponding account with whatever demographic they belong to.>2 hour a week gamer dads>40 hour a week sweaties that can barely hit a shot because dey dum>actual highest difficulty gamers that somehow achieve ridiculous win ratesHaving this much data is a fucking luxury and they're not even bothering to use it, like what the fuck is going on.
>>565179451Data collection is easy, actually going through it and interpreting it is incredibly difficult. For areas of society that actually matter, we hire and pay hundreds, even thousands of people just to interpret massive amounts of data, and even then the interpretations still have a chance of being wrong. From a business perspective, it's not a priority for video game studios if a game is good or bad, so long as they got your money.
>>565179094>there's some sort of weird ego issue going on with them where criticism is always taken badly and gets them extremely passive aggressive about itMost devs are massive pussies and have a constant chip on their shoulder, you could placate them with as much praise as you want but the moment you give the slightest bit of criticism they get super butthurt. Its one of the worst things about the current gaming space, I wish more gamers had a spine and would boycott games and microtransactions. If these worthless fucks actually saw a dip in their bottom line they would backpedal so fast and start adding the content people want.
>>565179928>Data collection is easy, actually going through it and interpreting it is incredibly difficult.Yes, I acknowledge that. But doing a really dumb pass for>how many hours does this player play each weekis piss easy, and just parsing>players that play the highest difficulty and achieve over 70% win rateis also piss easy, as is automating a system to flag their accounts and sending beta invites, so you can get broad feedback across different demographics, and also compare how your changes affect the overall win rates. You don't need to be a professional data analyst to do all of this basic stuff.>it's not a priority for video game studios if a game is good or bad, so long as they got your money.I understand this logic, but it is also completely retarded. This is literally just quarterly goal slop, completely and utterly undermining the very concept of long-term customer loyalty. Especially in slop as a service, unless you have some lightning in a bottle monopoly in your niche, you should want to treat your customer right, and try to make an effort to make a good product long-term.
>>565180174Yes it's retarded, I'm not saying there's reason to these decisions, just that this is how they're being made. The world is run by retarded middlewits incapable of sound decision making and higher reason, and the perpetual sense of disappointment and frustration you feel on the daily is precisely how anyone a standard deviation above the norm or more feels about existence for their entire lives. There's no escape, there's no relief, you either conquer the shit you care about and rule it by force or simply live with the pain.
>want to name my hive scum Anarki>keeps coming up with "Name validation failed"I'm trying to figure out if this name is triggering some overly zealous Swedish golem cuckold censor but I can't figure it out.
>>565182074I tried calling my scum "Psychopath", and it got rejected. I don't get it.
>>565034720it's mostly Game Director Dmitry Grigorenko explaining why are playing the game wrong.
>>565168406Right? What a weird thing to say
>>565180529>world is run by retarded middlewits incapable of sound decision making and higher reasonMaybe certain parts of it…
>>565178519They don't even have to hire anyone; if your game is popular enough then it's only a matter of time before the sweatlord autists start dissecting what aspects of your product doesn't work and suggest improvements/reworks just for the love of the game. Like look at this shit:https://youtu.be/rdRDH9d2CJE?si=zEpB4qvE5lPwxv7TThis is an hour long video dedicated to ONE (1) perk, going into minute detail on why it's bad by comparing it to other perks with similar functions and how it could be improved in a way that encourages playing proactively around it, significantly improves it's function and lines up with Assault's class fantasy. I know it was uploaded by some literal who, but you'd think a developer would have their finger on the pulse of what even the quieter voices of their community is saying. Why is it not in the job description of community managers to find shit like this and bring it to the attention of the developers? It's the easiest fucking win ever to garner community goodwill by showing that you're taking the suggestions of the best players into consideration when making balance changes, but they just can't seem to be bothered.
>>565184753Completely true and correct, but slightly besides my point. If you just had actually competent internal testing, you could easily avoid shipping broken products over and over like the slop as a service industry keeps doing.The actual reason is obviously a combination of incompetence and greed, rushing products out the door ASAP without even bothering with stability, the bugs get hotfixed but never truly patched, and you accrue enormous mountains of technical debt that then get abandoned by the engineers that wrote those hotfixes, and suddenly the newcomers can't even navigate the code anymore.
>>565184753they ask the cynical question "does the money keep flowing", if the answer is yes they won't have to bother
>it's myopia point-blank reliquary>againI love devs that equate feedback that a feature is frustrating and boring with having done a good job gatekeeping the plebs from their hard difficulty
>>565185146Damn it feels good to have everything in the accolade shop unlocked so I never have to do this shit until patch 13.
>>565185146MELEE HEAVY LET'S GOOOOO
>>565185276Same, I farmed it early on and I will never look back again. If I somehow run out of my stock when they release new items I'll just cheat it back
>play Decapitation all the way up to the bomb planting section without a single player joining>return to battle barge>click quickplay, immediately get into a lobby with two other players in the battle barge with Decapitation selected who somehow didn't join meMatchmaking is one of the worst things that ever happened to online gaming.
thanks
sm2 ausgods around for anything?
>Blazing Spirit: Enemy gains 4 Stacks of Soulblaze on Critical HitDoes Blazing Spirit apply soulblaze on primary fire as well or is it just the secondary fire? I'm split on this, Surge and Warp Nexus
>>565189120it should work on both primary and secondary. But it's capped to 6 stacks of soulblaze. What staff are you using?
>>565189379Voidstrike, I wanted to try it out over Electrostick
>>565189415check this and ctrl f for blazing spirit https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3293278399For voidstrike i think surge is better
>>565188940Gonna have a quick shower and hit the gym. Thinking of taking a break from SM2 so I don't get burnt out before patch 13 and get back into Darktide in the meantime; haven't played since before the Arbites came about so I have two entirely new classes to mess around with.
>>565190085>have an executable enemy in front of you>press E>the character makes a 180 and takes a short walk to execute another enemyman i'm so tired of this shit
>>565188715which game
>>565190368I smashed the nigga in front of me to death with my hammer before executing the guy behind me but yes that is very annoying when that happens.
>>565190491far far west
>>565190085>haven't played since before the Arbites came about so I have two entirely new classes to mess around with.Just make sure you religiously follow picrel constellation for the pigger else your build is bricked.The weakspot stagger above the right side aura is also a big help.The rest is kinda up to you but redditor's stance is griefing and only okay at best for shotgun spam.Scum is hard, if you end up struggling, it's a skill issue, accept that. The class is as good as your basics and ability to pay attention, so be prepared for a rough start especially if you're rusty.
>>565191560Nta, but do you know how Serrated Maw works?I know it applies 6 stacks of 2.5% brittleness, but I wonder if that it means applies the 6 stacks only once per pounce or everytime the dog bites (attacks) an enemy? Since I know when you attack a monstrosity with the dog, the dog hangs on for a while and keeps biting the monster.Mainly wondering since that could have neat synergy with the dog bleed node.
>>565188715ROCK AND STONE, BROTHA!
>>565192329Serrated Maw applies 6 stacks of brittleness on the first hit of a pounce. Meaning, if it latches onto a monster, that monster instantly gets 6 stacks, which do not re-apply while the dog is actively mauling, until it pounces again. Same for other enemies.Serrated Maw is pretty bad against anything that isn't a monster, and only mediocre against monsters if you immediately shock your dog.The bleed is most useful for thinning out crowds of enemies, it's not actually good single target damage unless you abuse the bug where the dog inexplicably has higher damage per stack and keep the stacks up with a Puncture bolt weapon, but even that is niche at best. RJA is debatably worth the point in havoc, I wouldn't bring it to auric.
>>565191438ah this, tried and felt it was slow as fuck
If I wait and buy the third Diablo expansion, do I get the other two expansions for free?
>>565192552Damn, well good to know.Imo it'd be a neat buff for the talent if the dog still did apply brittleness on pounce but then also when it is latched onto to the enemies.
Is it good now or shout is still the top pick?
>>565195158>is the moderate damage boost good now or is the team wide invulnerability to poxbursters still better?
When do we get our weapon flags to show everyone how much we like our weapons?
>>565195237I just wanted the be le ebin sharpshooter one shot one kill
I'm getting filtered by havoc. Auric campaign/event/maelstrom/w/e vary from borderline easy to hard-but-not-that-hard, but havoc after the first 20 levels hits like a fucking brick wall. Boss after boss after boss, all with shields, 10 crushers or 20 shotgunners or 30 ragers around every corner, no ammo, your defense is non-existent so if you can't dodge virtually everything perfectly you're dead, no ammo, any trash mobs can instakill you even if you have more than one wound, and still no ammo. If you go fast you end up pulling ridiculous amount of mobs, if you go slow you run out of health and ammo.
>>565195158Shout is literally the best ability in the game. Spammable yellow toughness is just that good. But you can have fun with stance, it regens toughness while active so you're not quite as squishy as before.
>>565195158shout is the op meta you can still pick executionner stance for the ebin dmg
>>565195645>no ammoUse your ammo to solve problems melee or magic can't solve. Faraway gunners, bosses that need killing ASAP because you're fighting 2-3 of them at the same time, dense hordes of enemies that would otherwise overrun you. Don't just randomly shoot at shit until you run out.Bring a vet with ammo aura.Stop using meme weapons that have horrible ammo economy.Pass the DPS check without needing to spend ammo.Stack as many team-wide buffs and debuffs as possible.A single critmaxxed shriek psyker standing next to a zealot with +10% crit from BP and putting brittleness on everything with flamer, should basically rape everything short of bosses, at very small ammo expense from the zealot. Bosses should get stunlocked by chorus, while everyone DPS rapes it with various team-wide buffs, like Skullcrusher, piss tag, etc. more than doubling everyone's damage.The reason anyone gets stuck at 20 is, 90% of the time, a team comp and build issue. But also most players in that bracket are fucking sub-human shitters that make the most retarded decisions imaginable and then repeatedly hammer their head against the wall while blaming the game for receiving a concussion instead of a W.Individual skill and individual builds don't matter that much in havoc. View it more as an RPG party composition check, than an ADHD epic 360 noscope trickshot fragvid. It doesn't matter how good you are at sliding around untouched for 20 minutes, when most maps won't let you progress the objective solo. It's technically possible to fully solo h40 on some maps without any weird gimmicks, and speed running is technically optimal if you leave all the shooters alive who then can't even keep up with you, thinning the actual melee spawns, but that's some advanced speedruntranny shit that nobody actually does in normal play.
>>565195158VoC is still better by a lot.Exec Stance is good on paper, but VoC is more effective and makes the team invulnerable.
>>565196910Thanks.>vet with ammo auraThat's me.>Stop using meme weapons that have horrible ammo economyI ended up with torrent Lasgun with Shock Trooper, as I understand it's as far from meme as I can get. Helbore is too slow. I love Shredder and torrent Infantry Autogun but they eat ammo like crazy. I hate Plasma Gun. And this game won't allow me to use Double Barrel on havoc, not with my skill that's for sure.>90% of the time, a team comp and build issueI'm playing with bros so it's either 4 sub-human shitters or nothing. We have vet, psyker, ogryn and arbites/scum (who does most of heavy lifting). I have Zealot but barely played him on havoc and so far don't quite understand my role on havoc, like full buff/debuff support? Flamer for rending, some Eviscerator to shred boss bubbles, and spam Chorus as much as possible?
>>565198663>LasgunLasgun is viewed as meta for people who have no idea what the fuck they're doing. It is not optimal, and only memelords use it in h40.The optimal Shock Trooper weapon is las pistol, once again crit maxxing so you have literally infinite ammo. Although I don't think you need to go all the way into crit blessings/perks for this to work, just bring a zealot and psyker with crit auras.Plasma is at the top because it asks the lowest amount of skill investment and is thus versatile. Bolter is comparable in most ways, except skill point cost, where it gets a little expensive and doesn't let you put points in melee. A good vet in a good team should almost never have to melee though so this becomes irrelevant when your team doesn't suck. Bolt pistol is also okay, but has worse ammo and can't delete monsters the same way 2 bolter mags can in an emergency.>We have vet, psyker, ogryn and arbites/scum Vet + scum and a psyker is basically the theoretically optimal lineup already. Upgraded crates feeding RPGs is retardedly efficient, both vet and scum can take care of ranged threats, both rape bosses, scum is giga melee DPS, psyker clears hordes for free. Smoke + shriek is technically optimal, but krak + bubble is likely easier to play at your level.>Zealot's roleKilling shit is everyone's role. Chorus builds just spend a lot of time stunlocking the horde with chorus, and by the time they pull their weapon out, most of that shit is already dead, hence the low damage numbers. But yes, chorus zealot's focus is support by providing purity aura, BP crit aura, and mass brittleness on the flamer.I would not recommend replacing a veteran though. Ogryn does different things to a zealot, but fills a similar role in such a lineup.
>>565161881That's not how that works.
>tfw no hitler gf
>>565195237>>565195782>>565196490>>565197157I hate this.
>>565199228Thanks once again. So I assume all the guns with "normal" ammo in this game are worse for the veteran?And another question, is there any way to prevent instadeaths like picrel, or is it inevitable with havoc debuffs? I have +1 wound because I thought it might help with this shit, lmao
>>565201230Looks like someone ate a poxburster blast, which is accompanied by corruption damage, which 100% put you on your final wound, which allowed the explosion to finish you off. The best way to avoid this shit is to push the gruting poxburster. Other than that maybe take some corruption resistance.
>>565182074>>565182217If you care enough if you ask on the forums Julia will uncensor the name for you (so long as it isnt actually some sort of slur)
>>565201230>So I assume all the guns with "normal" ammo in this game are worse for the veteran?I'd say it's more that all "normal" guns in general are worse for everyone, and only a small handful of outliers exist. Even ogryn doesn't really fire bullets when rumbler and GG exist. The single stubber is the best regular gun, but it just doesn't have enough throughput and doesn't apply brittleness the same way the GG does. Bolter zealots are a meme in havoc, but at least it's vaguely viable, flamer is still better. Scum only gets away with using guns because of Pickpocket, but AIDSgun is still unironically the strongest gun in the entire game. Arbitrator gets away with using the shotguns because the special shells are fully replenished in small ammo pickups, so you don't really feel the ammo penalty much, especially with a veteran.Veteran and ogryn are the only classes that should build around actually firing their ranged weapons. Veteran because he's the best at removing specials and shooters, ogryn because rumbler is gamebreaking when played around.>is there any way to prevent instadeathsYeah, not being on 6 toughness. When your toughness breaks, you pull out your melee weapon, block/push, and run the fuck away to cover. Or use your toughness ability. Or pray your buddy uses their toughness ability.Unless you're referring to dying on 20% corruption.All melee attacks in havoc inflict corruption. A big enough hit will just mulch you. This is why having high base health, and corruption resistance, are useful.Even trash enemy chip will corrupt you, and put you into the threshold of being instagibbed. There is a chance that being at 0% corruption here would've been survivable. This is where zealot's purity aura comes in, keeping you free of corruption chip. I'm sure the resident zealot hater will have a fucking meltdown over muh 15% toughness damage reduction though because he is enormously autistic.
>>565201371No, that's not poxbusters, it's a single shot from a scab stalker and almost an instant hit from a poxwalker after that. That's why I hate it so much, this game has the whole "downed" mechanic but it just plain skips it sometimes on havoc. Poxbusters are ultra-faggots but it's understandable not really when you eat a huge explosion and just die skipping the downed state.Before that I had multiple poxwalkers killing me from full hp + full shield + full yellow shield in 1.1 second.
>installing sm2 after 1.5+ year absencewhat am i in for bros?
>>565202521Somehow you got put onto your last wound. Wounds don't add any HP, they divide your HP into segments. So if you have a maximum of 100 HP into 3 wounds that's ~33 HP per wound. Getting blasted, smacked by a poxwalker, and then blasted makes sense because a poxwalker does, what, 50 damage? You're cooked, bro.
>>565202521>>565201230You probably got hit by a mauler or crusher ovheread. On higher havocs they do an insane amount of corruption and outright kill most characters on an overhead hit because of it unless you have some sort of defensive layer up or are playing ogryn who can just eat one due to his high HP pool if he had enough HP
>>565203207Nah, I'm pretty sure it was just a bunch of regular mobs at once. I understand it's a part of havoc experience plus skill issue, it just baffles me how different havoc from the rest of the game.
Braced Autogun.
did they do something to the shock mines? they don't seem to keep crushers stunned anymore, at least not consistentlyfuckers will stay stunned for all of a second and then start winding up an overhead
>>565204783Is garbage.
>>565204969Why?
>>565205106>horde clearing gun>not enough ammo to clear hordes above heresy>not accurate or powerful enough to kill disablers or snipers in a reasonable time frameIt's shit.
Vigilant Autogun.
>>565205379Bad but usable. Main issue is the microscopic projectile size making it extremely hard to hit headshots consistently.
>>565205379The worst ranged gun in the game probably.
>>565205379Haven't tried it after it's buffs, but it's probably still ass.
Infantry Autogun.
>>565205593Great on scum!
>>565205593Is fun.
>>565205593Torrent mark is 10/10, good damage, decent accuracy, maximum dakka.
That would be all, I thank everyone for their participation today.
>>565202861The most obnoxious levelling grind of your life.
>>565205195If it's ammo reserves were tripled, would you use it more?
>>565206137You forgot Shredder autopistol, dummy.
They should make you lose no ammo while in executioner stance
>>565206306I'm leaning no because it doesn't solve a problem that needs solving.
>>565206505isn't there a toughness regen per sec
>>565205593RATATATATATAAAAAAA
>>565202861You no longer need to host if you want to play tactical. Lethal is two extremis at once. Absolute is three extremis at once, and three extremis spawn at the start and mid through a terminus fight, and you have up to two terminus encounters per operation. Block weapons make sense now. Balanced weapons still don't make sense.remember to use the pay to win (relic) weapons to level up weapons you haven't maxed out yet.
>>565206474My 2nd most favorite ranged weapon. I wish Darktide wasn't made by swiggers and all these guns had ammo to be actually usable in end game.
>they're talking about guns that aren't the galvanic rifle>they're talking about melee weapons that aren't the transonic bladewow okay, we got some oldhead uncs up in here lmaoget with the times, fuckin oldgens
>>565206584Ok, how about a step further and you have unlimited ammo with it? Tempted yet?
>>565206983Scum had literally infinite ammo basically for free and that didn't make me want to use it.
This weekly is one of the rarest weeklies where I'm glad to have low level, underleveled shitters as opposed to max prestige losers who don't use execute because melee number go down (thus they can't heal and eat shit not too long later) but holy shit these slavoid devs need to calm down on burning player HP during non-combat sequences.Max level players are so conscious about a pointless melee score that they often skip executes and gunstrikes in favour of just flat out killing on a free HP regen.
>>565205106Take notes, inquisitive anon. Even with unlimited ammo, >>565207403 still wouldn't use a BAG, because they are just that BAD. I hope today was enlightening for you.
