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Lifts-Her-Tail Edition

>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/04-10-2026-update.125825/

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki/
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
>Unofficial Competitive News
https://edl.gg/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked: >>564943956
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>will soon be 3 weeks with no patch
BOOOORRRRIINGGGGGGG
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Parries are overpowered bullshit that need to be nerfed.
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>>565001869
posted the parry line award
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i love victor
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>>565001846
Where are the new hero leaks?
Yoshi?
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rape all Mina and Silver players NOW
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>>565002104
I like plapping down a healing Sceptre with healing tempo and popping Heroic aura as McNiggis. Instantly melts objectives.
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https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/voicelines?voiceline=shopkeeper_hotdog_t4_slork_05.mp3
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>>565001869
BILLY... COMPLETE THE RITUAL, AND I WILL REMOVE PARRIES FROM THE GAME...
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>>565002317
do you think whoever made him gave him a big wiener
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>>565002824
>Oh. You went melee Abrams. Real original, pal.
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dash infernus players need to be hanged
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>Oh. You went NIGGER Billy. Real original, NIGGER.
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>>565002943
yes he has a BBC (big blue cock)
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>>565002778
wh
what the fuck is this
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>>565002778
>not calling him Slork
Fathom is such a boring and uninspired name
>duh he's called fathom because he's like from the ocean and he's also hard to uh fathom
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>>565003090
I had one of them in my that just afk splitpushed the entire game. Went from a 20k lead to losing because retard just KEPT splitpushing
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I'm slorkin it
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>>565003184
>Balance patches are nerfs are for lesser men. Men with limitations. Men who are not Seven.
What did Yoshi mean by this?
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>>565003198
ok but Slork is such a bum-fuck ugly name
we can do better than Slork or "the fathom" right
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>>565003184
Looks like whoever contributes to the site had a stroke and assigned the Paradox / Seven backstories to the wrong place. If you click them it still plays the correct audio file
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Is my early gank strategy a good idea? I get a good early game and some stacks but I just can't seem to carry as Drifter. Late game I just explode against Wraith, Shiv, or Ven
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>>565003090
>infernus players need to be hanged
Because his build is dishonest, right?
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>>565003625
It may not be dishonest, but it is:
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What are the minimum items i need before i can start killing as Drifter
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which m1 carries do i play in solo queue to at least have some kind of winning potential? haze and who else?
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>>565003961
>haze
Lol unc, the real m1gger carries are mina and celeste
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>>565004119
>celeste
didn't this bitch get nerfed 30 times now, what's the issue?
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Vegas just placed Silver in S tier. It's over for you frauds.
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>>565004479
every pro on god's green earth wants silver nerf because she automatically activates their hate boner for some reason, so it actually doesn't matter
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>>565004479
No you don't understand, as an Emissary 2 player who started playing last september I'm better at the game and know more than the E6 player who has 5k games and 5x as much playtime
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The correct answer is always the most boring one:
Silver is mediocre. She is neither shit nor overpowered.
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>>565003485
>early gank
...?
you appear to have been assigned to yellow
>kinetic dash first t2
u wot
>explode against dedicated hard carries and wraith (one of the best duelists)
buy curse
>but my damage
if you've been playing correctly then damage is a total non-issue. buying wraith's ult makes you a wraith tier duelist and keeps you in the game
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>>565004645
go back to overwatch Metro, no one wants you flinging your shit everywherehere
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>>565003485
Can drifter even carry games?
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>>565003961
>>565004119
>Pisslow still doesn't know that if you want to carry a match you need to have early game pressure so you "carries" can afk farm without losing every objective in the meantime.
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I prefer playing on my Alchemist account over Oracle account. People are a lot less autistic about getting the rune as soon as it spawns, getting all sinners as soon as they spawn, etc. I can just relax and go 20-1.
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>>565004841
Get early burst items to snowball, if you dont have 5 kills before 10 minutes then your game is over
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>>565004784
wait nevermind I checked portraits. celeste just decided to take blue since you were in yellow
ganking can be good (as shown in your webm) but it can also be a total waste of time and fuck up your early momentum. really depends
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>>565004784
>there's this new game valve made called deadlock!
>wow...
>and I'm Eternus, with 1000 hours into the game!
>cool, so how do you play?
>well for starters, you... uh... you... y... you... uh
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>>565004962
>Game is easier when I cheat
Stop smurfing. Stop using UI mods. Stop using parries.
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i've tried non-stalker hybrid calico.
it fucking sucks.
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>>565004847
>you need to have early game pressure
cool, so how do I do that exactly?
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going from 75% wr on haze/victor to 60% wr on seven sucks so much. basically i only can affect 5% of my games and rest is just matchmaking
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>>565005124
nigga I have no idea how new you are. if you want elaboration on a point or if there's something you don't understand just ask
kinetic dash sounds like ass because it gives you many little effects but nothing significant. the fire rate is premium for its price point but until you actually get point blank the fire rate is just a cute stat, so you buy into something that doesn't help you much. which is fine because you're setting up a strong timing with the point blank purchase but if you're trying to be super active and ganking at 5 minutes, then being strong later doesn't seem that good of a build plan
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>matchmaking
yeah more like matchfixing patch fucking when yoshi
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>>565005254
Play well in lane. Swing your dick around by taking opposing jungle camps. Steal their bags. If someone enters your jungle you kill them.
You know. The opposite of farming for 30 minutes in safety.
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Genuinely what do you even do in this situation
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Map Leak and More!!

Things that I can confirm:
There are 3 new heroes in the files named "chessmaster", "artist", and—I kid you not—"ratking".
PvE Gamemode is real; it is a 1-to-1 copy of Hopoo's Risk of Rain 2.
The PVE game mode has custom enemy models.
The entire green lane is redone and is very open.
There is a GIANT theater added in between blue and yellow.
The middle of the blue lane is redone to look different.
The leaker is quite a... Chad ;)
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>>565005584
I was making fun of the drifter throwing out words like "early gank", and kinetic dash being in the build at all, 'cause I'm heavily assuming is not in shitlow
sorry man goddayumn
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>>565005907
can confirm, am the troll under the bridge
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>>565005865
i just feed so enemy can end faster. no point in trying
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>>565005865
gg go next
you can't win every game
MAYBE you could've paid attention early and pivoted to some sort of roaming gameplan to keep mina down but that's a crazy thing to try and do as seven
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>>565005907
>There is a GIANT theater added in between blue and yellow.
wait so can you actually fight in the movie theater or is it just there for show
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>>565006017
yea, but its more like an opera hall/old fasion theater
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DELETE PARRIES
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>goddamnit green lane fed drifter again
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>>565005907
>PvE Gamemode is real; it is a 1-to-1 copy of Hopoo's Risk of Rain 2.
Hopefully Yoshi can keep him away from the regular game so he can stop shitting out dogshit hero kits now.
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>>565005907
>big ass troll underneath a bridge (haha very funny)
ok valve but what the fuck is deadlock's setting? why are we introducing fantasy creatures into this game now? the hell is going on? I thought we were just mixing mostly supernatural elements here
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>>565004479
this is bait but man vegas is actually a retard, why are 90% of deadlock content creators such fags
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>>565006017
Looks like this
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>>565006221
because all of them are grifters who want you to pay for their courses so they can teach you award-winning loser-streak strats so you will forever think you're bad at the game, therefore never improving, therefore you're always on their courses/checking out their content. They will give you breadcrumbs of good info so you don't permanently abandon them out of rage
it's genius
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I ship Henry and Savanna
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>>565003485
>get mystic slow
>roam and freezing beam enemies to a complete stop while my 2 teammates take turns on the communal rape event
undefeated
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>>565006172
TRUTH NUKE
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>>565006206
>ok valve but what the fuck is deadlock's setting?
50 years ago a bunch of rifts opened up across earth to other dimensions, one that has troll-like things in it doesn't seem that crazy to me, we already have not-hell (Ixia).
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>>565005907
>The entire green lane is redone and is very open.
I'm happy with this. Almost every part of the map feels closed in, and is outright claustraphobic-inducing sometimes
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>>565006206
they could redeem this if it's not a fantasy troll but an escaped homunculus
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>>565006002
>low t response
you either die taking it up the ass like a good boy, or you die like the gigachad redditor you were born to be
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>>565006367
the worst bit about this is that they think they're personally being coached by a pro and will fervently defend them doing dumb shit at even the highest level because 'lightbringer coaches me vro'
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>>565004784
>>565005584
>>565005921
>kinetic dash first t2
>u wot
I like K dash because I like having stam on drifter to go in for rends and dives. Honestly, he does have ammo issues though. Also I'm not new to the game
>active and ganking at 5 minutes
I'm think more like two minutes (to box run as well)
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>>565006367
if we can get valve employees to actually leak the fucking game, what is stopping the neets here from leaking eternus-level strats that actually work
I want to kill all niggers and eternus grifters holy fuck
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>>565005865
wallbounce in spawn
stretch
check yo phone
do some squats
go get a drink
plenty of options anon
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>>565007079
psychotic and murderhobo pilled
do you use the playercam hotkeys? I feel like one of the hardest things about early roaming is having enough information to feel 100% certain the gank will convert into a kill
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>>565005865
Stretch your bussy
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>>565007090
because teaching and knowing how to communicate is its own skill that most people don't have, no matter how big their deadcock is
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they could lower tankbuster's cd to less than 10s and it would still be a trash item late game
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>>565007491
>deadlocktgpt: listen to me ramble about good deadlock strats and then condense it into a paragraph-by-paragraph document that could help players who want to improve at the game get out of shitlow, and target them towards eternus-level plays
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>>565007704
>item that scales infinitely is arbitrarily bad later
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>mystic burst, headshot booster, mystic shot
*crack*
*siiiiiiiiip*
yep, it's laning time
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>>565006148
>Dey can try to *huff puff huff* run and it will *wheeze huff puff* mattah *collapses
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>>565006326
>giant wide open killbox
unless there's like a stockpile of breakables, camps, or sinners to bait people inside, literally no one is going to wander into here
also disrupting the symmetry of the map, particularly in a MOBA game, is pretty retarded

>>565005865
>>565007368
but do it over comms so we can listen
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>>565007967
GUYS! HOLY SHIT IT'S A FED DRIFTER
RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
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>>565007925
>click on enemy head
>4 numbers pop up
>they use all their stam running back to base
>pop them again
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>>565007090
There is no secret Eternus strat. Its exactly like pisslow but with more efficient actions
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>>565008120
rank and hours?
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>>565007978
>disrupting the symmetry of the map, particularly in a MOBA game, is pretty retarded
have you not launched the game or something
icefrog don't give a fuck
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>>565008120
this is true of every single competitive team game
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>>565007919
8% of health once every few seconds is utter dogshit compared to some of the shit m1 carries get. siphon bullets for example.
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>>565005135
My main account is on Alchemist, I got placed low because MM sucks not because I'm a smurf.
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>>565005214
somehow we won
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>>565008248
a 6k item? and tb procs instantly on multiple people while siphon is single target focus fire
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>>565008191
800 hours. Ascendant 5 right now
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>>565008535
doesn't tank buster activate after the damage you deal
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>>565007359
The gulf between lanes is too great to make use of overly minute information imo: I just keep an eye on the map and note the general aggression of the lanes. If I see that the enemy on one side lane is always by their tower and at full health it usually means they're too cautious to be worth going to. But if the enemy push often and often trade health it's good to swing by if there's a lull in your own lane.
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>>565008120
this is an oversimplification that doesnt really say anything at all
you can boil down any real life activity or sport to being "exactly like doing it at a lower level but with more efficient actions"
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>>565009178
>It's exactly like being bad like noobs are, except you're actually good at it!
You don't say...
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>>565009178
Thats because its true. The difference between an amateur sportsballer and a pro is the pro practices like hell.
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>>565008120
retarded tautology
if you had said there's eternus actions are the same as shitter actions then you might have a point but strategy means decision making process which is 100% different at different skill levels
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>>565009361
What happened to giving advice like,
>I WISH I would've known this when I was a beginner!
Like you don't mean to tell me every single fucking learnable skill in every degree possible is JUST muscle memory, pattern recognition and git gud, right?
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>>565005907
Are there any more heroes? I was expecting six again for the next update
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>>565007925
I'm convinced that mystic shot is an amazing item but I don't have 100% accuracy so I'm not allowed to buy it
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>>565005214
What does that look like compared to the normal build?
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What do you say to this
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>>565010036
go home with me that is!
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>>565005907
How you even do a long dash on 4chinz?
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>>565010036
Go to the buff receiving factory that is
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>>565009987
isn't rem like, a child? why do we care for a child's opinions?
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>>565010036
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>>565007978
>disrupting the symmetry of the map, particularly in a MOBA game, is pretty retarded
t. never played dota
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>>565007978
The map is already asymmetrical
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>>565001703
she looks like a man
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Can you even escape doorman ult if he does the cart + ult combo, or if he does slowing hex + knockdown etc?`
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there are people that go 2/12 on apollo in seeker please help me
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>>565010036
yeah she needs to go, specifically while pointing her cookie towards my face and chest so I get covered in stinky dog piss
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>>565011860
>in seeker
who cars
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i miss winning 75% of my games in xdefiant i hate this valve eomm forced 50slop
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>>565012532
Stop seething, loser.

>xdefiant
Actually, just be silent.
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Im only winning 25% of my games. Im gonna kill myself
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>>565012773
forced 50s strongest warrior
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Flopping tranny deadcock.
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why the fuck is dynamo's stomp a charge ability
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>>565013461
riot does this too, every patch they make 3-5 heros super OP in every part of their kit and they rotate the heros around so the meta is always changing
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I rescind my statement a month ago.

Holliday is actually one of the most dishonest heroes in the fucking game.
I played a ton of her over the past weeks and what I originally thought was a high skill hero is actually utterly fucking braindead.
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It's UP
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>>565013739
you will never compliment hollidays again after experiencing her bounce pad
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>>565013739
yes shes a crutch movement hero like mina/celeste. viscous is the true high skill cap hero
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>>565013696
Stomp was stronger and had charges even when dynamo was considered dogshit.
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>>565012226
how do you even accomplish that? cast decay once on an enemy who's about to die within the next second?
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I'M DOING IT
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>>565014012
>mina

Mina is honest
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>>565014161
Max fall off gun damage at the start of the game then disconnect
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>>565013739
dishonest in that she gets to do whatever she wants because jump pad is a top tier ability
honest in that even with the best movement ability in the game she doesn't do anything
you have to be good at holliday to have as much impact as a dynamo who's half asleep
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character with a passive that does nothing but give dashes iframes
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>>565014638
Knight hero that has a passive that gives his dash (roll) iframes

But on a 4 sec cooldown
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your rem against mcginnis infernus mokrill sir
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>be no and skill
>haze tries to solo ult me
>pop metal skin
>WE HAVE YOU NOW
>haze rage in chat
buy unstoppable you dunce
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>>565014301
one of rem's helpers will zap you for 1 damage when you kill him
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>>565014773
Nah, tied to a unique resource bar like rage.
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character with a passive that converts all of her resist into another resist, and a toggle that switches that resist on the fly.
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>>565015385
shut up dude
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>>565015385
And her breasts or rear gets larger depending on the resist.
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>>565015524
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Whats our verdict on the poledancing ivy mod?
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Milkmaid hero who's healing effectiveness scales with spirit.
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>>565015920
Does she lactate
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>>565015524
which way tho
are breasts bullet or spirit resist
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>>565015821
ivy sucks, she looks like a insectoid
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futa hero whose tits scale with spirit and cock scales with gun
bullets are cum
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>>565009621
The only thing the tutorial needs to teach is that
>a) lanes give more souls than jungle and should be prioritized
>b) sliding gives you infinite ammo
>c) remind you this is a source game and thus has weird source game engine wackery
Other than that yeah, it's just practice.
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>>565016025
that's her ult (free celestial blessing but delayed and without the cleanse).
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I wonder if any of the street brawl legendaries are just experiments for actual hero skills
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>>565016615
>mad scientist hero with shrink ray, kamikaze potion, etc.
too bad dynamo already fills up the pulpy sci fi inventor niche
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>>565016615
seraphim wings is 100% recycled from a concept that never seen life outside of the design phase.
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>>565016848
He fits the more subdued scientist
We dont have a proper mad scientist yet
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>>565016848
there's a lot of visual design space for another scientist hero, i think it would be a waste to call it quits just because of dynamo
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>>565017062
It's his time
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I fucking hate doorniggers so fucking much, they should all just suicide and rid the world of their retarded filth. Look at this inbred retard, 10m into the game and blue lane walker was already fucking DEAD. This retarded nigger one trick was leveling door and couldn't kill creeps, every fucking time it's fucking boosted animal on a broken nigger hero.
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>>565017359
why do you have 20% kill participation thats not very much
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>>565017651
Lane janny....... Ivy was flying on cooldown elsewhere and left lane was being pushed non-stop by warden and sinclair. Believe me, I wanted to play the game too.
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>>565016848
>>565017050
>>565017062
>takes place in 1940s
>no nuclear scientist
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>>565017359
dang your build is really not doing you any favors
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>>565017359
>these items
>anime skin
>ascendant lobby
mmr inflation has really hit the game hard huh
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>>565018370
True, I got here by vibe building and you one-tricks can't even do a simple combo properly.
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>>565018370
>ascendant lobby
aint no way
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It really feels like the only part of the game that matters is laning. If you don't destroy your lane your chances to carry the game are severely diminished. On the other hand you can do well in lane but if both your other lanes lose its almost impossible to win because they just invade your jungle and snowball. Just feels pointless to play after a lost lane
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>>565017781
Good point but the only war we're focusing on seems to be South Ixia as the current frontier that money and resources get dumped into, plus research seems to be more focused around souls and occult stuff rather than the building blocks of the universe. Also hard to center the other characters around them, they'd take Seven's spot as the story's big time bomb
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>>565018953
a lane going poorly doesn't matter
a turbo fed lane does matter
just buy greens and hold it down
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>>565017781
>>565018962
Mad scientist hero obsessed with his new discovery about splitting the atom
No one takes him seriously and he doesnt get any government research grants because everyone is too obsessed with soul tech

Attends the ritual to bringforth the nuclear age
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>>565018953
lane doesn't matter as much as you think, they've left the ability to just barely participate in fighting and just collect souls until its over while not caring about your tower if you want to just force it even and move on with your game
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lane matters when you feed a mina or drifter or talon stacks or whatever infinitely scaling bullshit character ur against
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>>565019530

kino.
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>>565019664
stacks are different but you can still just non-participate that shit near your tower and barely give them anything and nearly ruin their game too.
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>>565019806
great game design
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I feel like not playing the game
Give me your best Seven bubble build
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>>565020345
glass cannon
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I want an eco-terrorist hero that's trying to stop everyone's souls from getting used as an energy source
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yep abysmal matchmaking. 13 minute game with a 0-4 ragequit silver on my team. So I go do other things. I go take the break and relax and come back with a fresh mind. First thing back 100% accuracy ragehacking infernus on a level 1 steam account with no games or friends added. how does this game expect to survive?
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>REALLY good as one character
>But want to play other characters to have more fun
>But I usually lose when I'm not that one character
What do I do
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>>565020543
keep playing the other characters
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>>565017335
Tracer but Junkenstein Junkrat?
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>>565020718
It's the Seven equivalent from Gold Rush Alliance, the chinese deadlock clone
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>>565020543
>Really good at one character
>go play other shit
>instantly get force 30'd into oblivion with the most braindead macro blind retards you can possibly imagine versus 4 stacks
>DOG shit winrate even though I understand how to play those other characters
Like what are you supposed to do when your team consistently puts you at a 40k deficit by 20m. like actually.
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>>565020462
who relies on an alternative that's somehow so much worse
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>>565020819
Okay Shinra
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>>565020543
I had that same problem, I expanded my hero pool and despite some absolutely ATROCIOUS games, losses that were 100% fault where I just fucking fed and did 0 damage, I didn't even derank a single tier
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>ragehacks like fuck and gets away with it permanently because valve are the most incompetent fucking niggers on earth when it comes to dealing with cheaters
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>>565020780
do they actually play that game?
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>>565020952
expecting any different is silly
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should i feel bad for winning the game only because enemy apollo got stuck in rem tunnels and didnt know how to kill himself?
i could kill him cuz i were calico but didnt
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>>565021069
yep just watch the game die because of it.
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hear me out: veil walker on rem
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>>565021247
only if it would apply to whoever you were tagged into
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>>565014638
Ultrakill crossover
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Grey Talon is actually a pure cancer character

the bullshit flight time coupled with the spirit snare spam is genuinely annoying as fuck to deal with

no one says anything because he's mid tier at best but it's insane how toxic his gameplay is
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>>565021346
i'm thinking it would enhance the rat running behind enemy lines, stealing their boxes and sinners
that is if they still have sinners by the time rem can afford veil walker.
it might make stealing jungle camps more viable since you can escape more easily even if you are caught.
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I have done nothing but play street brawl for 70 hours.
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>>565021868
>it's insane how toxic his gameplay is
this applies to more than half the roster
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>>565022071
now that street brawl is ranked I don't know why people even bother with the assfaggots mode

I don't care that pros do it
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>>565022156
Because street brawl has little to no skill expression and is based on who gets the best items
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>I kind of want to play, but not really
Does anyone else feel this way after work?
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>>565022207
That's cope, you get plenty of choices of where you want your build to go, and one very strategic reroll. It's rare that I'd get snuffed in 1 round let alone the whole game. Rolling with the punches is real skill.
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>>565022207
street brawl has similar skill expression to standard in that the thoughts of everyone are not very cohesive or predictable and instead their ability to mechanically rape each other is the biggest decider.
the funtime rng items keeps it from turning into a hyper sweat deathmatch which at the end of the day is good
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>street brawl has similar skill expression to standard
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>>565021868
THIS HUNT, IS OVER.
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street brawl is fun
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>>565023507
but shit
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>>565021868
>because he's mid tier at best
don't bother downplaying for him he's S tier but ugly only reason people don't 100% pick him
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>>565018953
this is one of the patches where laning has mattered the least
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>>565023647
why is his WR so low?
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>>565023895
retards spamming ult from base all game in archon doesn't count btw
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>>565023958
I accept your concession
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it's over...
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>>565023958
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>>565021868
There's no char in the game with a spammy nuke anywhere near as powerful or reliable as talon arrows, and his trap is one of the biggest cockblocks in the game. the fact is a gray talon with 100% arrow hit rate auto-wins and causes PTSD but anyone skilled enough to do so is likely bored out of their mind playing a char like that.
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Parry should have a 20 second cooldown, to match Counterspell
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>>565021868
played by stoners who just want to fly as a pretty bird tho
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>>565024458
>la la la i can't heeeeaaarrr you
embarrassing
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do I have to have good aim to play spirit graytalon? those arrows feel like they're as wide as a fucking bus
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vindicta is a worthless dogshit piece of trash character but its really cute when she hums her little song when flying sometimes
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4 straight losses and every single time the reason is the same and obvious

>lash ults 1 enemy at full hp by himself just completely fucking randomly
what am I supposed to do with a teammate like this?
Lose. That's what.
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wow this game is so fun *loads revolver with 5 bullets*
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>>565025008
>vindicta humming
>drifter whistling
I love my happy occult murderers
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>>565025008
today is a good day :)
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>>565024894
kinda, he has had the same issue forever in that you need to learn how to push with him and that sitting back and just taking your free shots isn't always going to get you anywhere
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how do i stop losing wtf
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Is using Ivy ult to run the urn a noob trap?
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>>565025903
sometimes it works but it's best used as a dunk tool
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yoshi, 1 leak por favor...
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Make Sinclair's bolt AoE scale with distance too
Shit takes so much effort to try and land with trickshots just to do less damage than a doorman bell or dynamo 1 that have AoEs the size of the entire lane
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victorfags what do you guys do when laning agaisnt yamato
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>>565026454
Heavy melee if she grapples you
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>>565026454
Isn't her tendency to grapple kind of ideal for someone with abilities that do damage right next to them?
Unless you built gun as is the recent trend then you're just fucked I guess.
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Sex with Venator
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>Teammate in jungle at camp right next to walker
>Wave slowly approaching walker
>Think teammate has it, look away
>YOUR WALKER IS UNDER ATTACK
>wtf
>Look back and teammate is just at another camp, not even making an effort to get to walker
>Walker dies before I can get there
Why
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>Dynamo is the most powerful hero in the game by far
>Requires no skill at all, barely needs to farm
Nice game.
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Infernus, Seven, Haze, and Drifter all deserve a 35% damage nerf
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it never looked this fucking bad before
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why do people take street brawl so seriously
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>>565027772
ow/mr refugees
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>>565027716
This makes me feel better about my 47% wr. Thank you.
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>>565026794
they need to add a tutorial, low effort and shitty or not just something that explains the basic of a MOBA
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What are the two characters that you get on your team that pretty much confirm you already lost?
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doorman dynamo down
reddit hero players down
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patch never ever
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>>565026794
Poor communication kills
Yeah he was retarded, but why did you not take just a moment to ask "yo you got the creep wave?"
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had a match with 2 leavers and it counted for my skill rating lmaoooo
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why is it that I seem to build speed better as shiv if I m2 right before landing from a slide jump instead of right as I start sliding for the next one? is there some quirk they put in where the method that costs me ammo is better or am I just fucking something up
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>>565029264
It's got to do with slide momentum iirc
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street brawl needs to be fully random. random heroes, random items. right now its neither
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Just started playing Deadlock today
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>>565030140
Have fun.
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>>565030140
are you having fun?
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>>565030212
Is anyone here even having fun with this game anymore?
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>>565030206
stop posting this image
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>>565030403
No.
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>>565022075
>time for applied science!
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>>565030206
>>565030212
Yes. First few games were a bit of a pain though, mostly because of disconnects. Lane partner bailed as soon as we lost the guardian and the rest of the party followed suit
But I've been having a blast with Ivy these past few rounds, even if I'm not winning and still stumbling around trying to figure out what I should be doing at the given moment
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Goddamn the matches SUCK tonight what the fuck did I do to get a 1/15 seven
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I feel like Paige is one of the most overpowered character but no one talking about her
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>>565030857
Overpowered? No
Very strong and impactful? Yes
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>>565030857
every support in the game is extremely boosted, as they always are in mobas
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>>565022000
i've been testing this in free roam, and the more i think about it, the more i think this could work.
>veil walker procs healing tempo, turning the 3.5m movement buff into almost 5m, and building healing tempo on rem isn't the worst idea
>since you're a caster you'll want cooldown reduction and duration increase anyways, especially since your 2 buffs the range of active items
>2 of the most common active items on rem (heroic aura and guardian ward/divine barrier) also buff his movement speed
>many tunnel entrances and veils are placed close to one another
>+10 spirit power passively from veil walker isn't completely wasted on rem, it's still not worth 3.2k probably
>there are cosmic veils right next to those vents in the base, so you can bait enemy heroes into a scooby doo chase inside their own base even if their walkers are still up
i'll come up with a build order for this and become a menace in low elo games.
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>>565030857
She was for a while but they cut her numbers down a bit and buffed other supports, Ivy, Kelvin and Dynamo are all now way better than her.
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>>565030206
>2/7/6
my newfriend went 0/22/8 as billy in his first real game and did 8k player damage in a 40 minute game
turns out he was playing with a controller too
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>>565030857
Piling onto what the other anons said, every support is OP but Ivy/Kelvin/Dynamo are all more OP than her so nobody really cares about Paige.
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>>565031268
>Ivy
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>>565030491
my wife on the left
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>>565030857
I feel like most Paige got tricked by public build to max 3 first instead of 1
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torment pulse on kevin y/n
i normally play more initiator and spirit heavy than pure support
had mixed results with it, but 3.2k is a lot of money early
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>>565032247
idk ive never played him
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>>565031268
>every support is OP
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Paige is only played by boosted girlfriends with no game sense that's why no one talks about her
>losing paige at 0/5/0 buys trophy collector and gets 2 stacks
>paige that's fighting against drifter, warden and pocket that refused to buy divine barrier or rescue beam despite having healing rite and guardian barrier in a 40 minute game
>fucking gun paige
>paige with curse that runs in before the carry, curses some backliner and dies, accomplishing nothing and crying in voice
All things I've seen in eternus lobbies
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>Playing a match as Rem
>Enemy Lash
>Manage to throw a Knockdown onto him every time he Ults so that he gets ragdolled right as everyone is pulled to him
>Team immediately kills him and then the rest of his team
>Third time it happens he doesn't even do anything, just accepts his fate and stops playing

I'm helpful
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>>565032247
doesnt sound the worst, go for it
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>>565032578
>Knock Down is le good!
Nothing to do with Rem
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>>565032748
His 2 explicitly gives extra range on item casting
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>>565032549
Paige is the only hero I've seen that will burn all their cooldowns on you the second you come within range. You can inch forward into the lane as the least valuable member of your team and Paige will hit you with knockdown, disarming hex, slowing hex, curse, throw out a book, put her root behind you, shield herself and then immediately burn all of her stamina to get away.
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>>565003485
>>565004841
Drifter isn't meant to be a carry. If you want a carry play one of those heroes that needs to farm for 30 minutes and come out of the jungle 1v11ing. Farming on Drifter is a detriment to his entire gameplan.
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>>565033029
kek so true
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>buy express shot on Abram
>shoulder charge, punch, shoot head once
>half hp gone
What is this character
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>>565033526
LET'S SEE WHAT THIS DICK CAN DO
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>>565033526
>What is this character
very fun
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>>565033526
I miss doing 800 damage per headshot so much.
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>>565030857
she unironically very honest and balanced
other supports fill a certain niche in the 'overpowered' sense, while Paige is generally strong across the board
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Fun character :) I wonder if full gun is any good but I'm just playing support/spirit
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>>565035002
if you're playing true support (buying actives like cursed relic and hexes) you can get a 60% wr by just dumping everything into the enemy carry
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>oracle 2
>supports still don't buy support items
When does this stop?
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>>565035164
Usually it's disarming hex because every game has 3 gun heroes, but I tend to buy 2-3 supportive actives every game. I should buy relic more admittedly since it's so good but it's either hex, focus lens (for rope so they don't do shit after), or decay. Bounce pad feels very degenerate as an ability, but it's good practice to actively work on my movement all game so I feel like I'm getting better every day which is awesome as a based arcanist 3 player
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>just start playing
>post cropped porn
Sure you do
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Silver's also a pretty cool champ. Kinda hard to get to werefolg form at times.
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>Abram run into small room
>Seven chase him into small
>Buttfucked to death
>Complain
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>>565030384
I have fun playing streetbrawl. If you dont enjoy a game you should stop playing it
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>>565037097
I play streetbrawl too, I want to just play a few mindless deathmatches on a valve game anyways.
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>>565017050
>>565017781
>>565019530
I thought Seven is the mad scientist character
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>>565036825
>german
ofc the shit fetish people also like beasaility
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>>565037459
Seven isn't a scientist, he is a mass murderer ends justify the means nigga in pursuit of even stronger occult power.
In the case of the ritual he wants to hit godhood.
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>>565035839
https://files.catbox.moe/6nx1xz.jpg
build these items
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ERNEUT SPIELEN
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finally had a string of losses bad enough to keep me away until the next major update, thank god
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>>565037621
To be fair, seven does tell dynamo that his research made his power possible. So hes well studied and uses it to aim for godhood. Pretty scientisty
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Will we get Oppenheimer character
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>>565037805
that movie sucked
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>>565037621
His attitude and lore tidbits and his weapon name (Cold Calculus) just strike me as he was a man of science that crossed some kind of Ethics Comittee to land him in death row.
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I haven't played this game since January 2025, back when we still had four lanes (RIP).
What do I need to know to get back into the game?
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>>565038068
there are three lanes
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>>565035839
build melee items on her <3
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Does anyone have any REAL leaks? This game is dead as fuck right now
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>565038201
fag
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>>565037885
"Cold Calculus" is just a poetic way of saying he only cares about the outcome, not the lives lost along the way. He's treating his mass murder like a math equation. It doesn't mean he literally does calculus in a meat freezer.
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Is there some exploit going on that lets people be immune to doorman ult? I just had a game where someone was able to just walk away without getting sent away constantly. It wasn't counterspell either, never seen this until today.
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>>565038340
There will be an update sometime in the next few months. You didn't hear it from me.
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>>565038340
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>>565038485
lol more likely they abandoned this game like underlords
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Any vindicta tips?
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>>565038460
w-waow... leaker-chan...
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bnuuy
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we heard you didn't like it when haze pressed 4 to auto win so we made it so infernus can press 2 to auto win also the infernus can press 2 every 5 seconds hehe :)
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>haze gets ricochet
>the game it's completly over and you can't do anything about it
Cool game.
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How the fuck do you build Yamato? All these builds are ultra garbage.
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>>565039421
gun
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>>565039152
Have you try stopping her from shooting or breathing
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>>565039421
use mine smile
579458
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>>565039421
>purple item that reduce bullet resist
>Express shot
>Every orange item you can think of

>Press 2
>Right click
No need to thank me
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They really need to put pre-mades into a separate queue, tired of getting miserable games.
> I'm Geist
> Team is an Infernus, Dynamo, Kelvin, Seven, and Graves
> Kelvin and Infernus are a duo, Dynamo and Kelvin are a duo
> They both swap leaving me center lane against Doorman and Mina with Graves
> Graves is fucking useless because Graves is always fucking useless
> Nigfernus is 10-0 in seconds, rest of team is 20k ahead, meanwhile I had to abandon lane because Graves fed Mina a shitload
> We win but I had a fucking miserable time that could have been entirely prevented by not putting me on the Mina/Doorman lane
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>>565030857
Your job is to test every enemy team's page.

It's trivial to kill her unless her teammates are sensitive to her getting attacked and come to her aid.
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>>565035002
you need aimbot for full gun
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>>565039734
I like when I see Infernus on the enemy team, it means I can just relax and listen to a podcast since nine times out of ten my dumbass team is gonna feed him
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>>565039873
i dont have aimbot but hitting crackshots is easier than it used to be but i dont know if thats because the gun was that much worse or if it was because i was dogshit and now im okay
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>>565039807
Honesty it is pretty rare to caught Paige alone somewhere, this bitch clear lane and jungle with lighting speed with her baddragon.com
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>>565040296
They increased her accuracy, velocity, and bullet hitbox.
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The main character of deadlock.
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>>565041165
That's not
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>>565027772
seriously as in they try to win or is there something im missing?
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im an ivy waifufag aren't i just so quirky
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>Queue into a match
>Apollo, Seven and Celeste all pause asking for either Warden or i to swap lanes with them
>Neither of us want to
>They proceed to intentionally feed immediately upon reaching the lane, type in all chat that "the team didn't want to win"
>Game still drags to 20+ minutes somehow
phantom lobby btw
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>>565041265
>He want to win
Why are you such a tryhard?
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>>565027772
They dont
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>>565041532
>ESL cant read
ok
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>>565041486
u mad
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If a bunch of tournament nobodies with zero budget can throw together a draft/ban system, why is Valve incapable of it?
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There should be an active item that make your next melee stun if enemy parry you
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>>565040926
I am aware of this but I don't know to what degree this makes her gun better objectively
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>>565041507
>celeste and seven asking to swap side lanes or else they int
I maybe get Apollo wanting to not lane mid, but what was their endgame specifically?
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There should be an active item that disables parries
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>>565042409
Apollo was just part of the 3-stack, i think Celeste and Seven wanted to lane together just because they're friends. That's it. So they just threw the game when we refused.
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>>565042524
Throwing when you can't play with your buttbuddies is alchemist behavior. I dunno how "people" like that even get into phantom.
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My wife Celeste! *GLUK* *GLUK* *GLUK* *GLUK* *GLUK*
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>>565042653
Me neither but i gues its my fault for wanting to play deadlock
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>>565042678
Is that you throating her horsecock?
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>>565042849
*GULP*
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>>565041939
>why is Valve incapable of it?
the prio system is mostly so people are testing shit and to be fair in no game with a draft system do people actually play with it properly in matchmaking 80% of the time
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Does anyone good play holliday here? i wanna know if i would ever buy merc mag it looks fun but i dont think i could ever justify it
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>>565041939
>why is this closed alpha test designed to maximize the amount of data generated?
you literally signed up for this
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>>565042678
post it
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Was this winnable?
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>>565041939
im pretty sure they're literally asking the teams what they want and moving pictures around. its not programmed into the game
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>>565043484
no you picked useless doornigger and your team are all hamas paratroopers
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>>565043484
as doorman no
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What would your wish to the patron be, /dlg/?
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I just easily missed 50 entire mags because sinclair randomly sheeping targets while i try to shoot them
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Playing against these fucking doormans that cheat death and just TP to base it's like playing league of legends. Just a kick in the balls.
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>>565043762
to be some kind of godlike shapeshifter and wizard so i could turn myself into a girl and slut it up for free
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>>565043818
its fine they arent doing jackshit but they think they are so its fine just kill his teammates while he flames them
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>>565043896
Have you try follow him home and kill him out of spite
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>>565043762
mina on all fours
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>>565043939
Why would I do that? Thats what he wants so he can post it on ebin tik tok just watch him go 2 4 and 5 while he flames his teammates for not doing anything
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Why isn't bodyblocking a thing, i tried blocking a redditman from going through his door but he just walked through me
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>>565043896
You're out of the fight when he does that and if he does it to two people then the fight it's over.
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>>565044308
He or xhe would be very upset if you homewreck and get away with it
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My games are especially dogshit tonight, what's goin on? Also, did some influencer make a video about viscous or something he's been in every single game so far
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>40 minutes in
>the nigger in my team dc'd when we were winning
>lose
>drop down one rank
Fuck you, Yoshi. This shit should not have been scored.
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My patron wish is for every female hero to grow a penis.
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>>565043376
not sure why you think data can't be gathered from a draft system...?

>>565043524
https://statlocker.gg/draft
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My patron wish is to cancel this wish >>565044971
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This game has the balls to demote you when it gives you four straight matches against Dynamo Infernus/Kelvin while you get Celeste on your team
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my patron wish? uhhh well it involves black people and a "solution"
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>>565045023
>not sure why you think data can't be gathered from a draft system...?
it certainly can, but they don't want that data
they want to see every matchup, they don't want people counterpicking or avoiding certain picks
i suspect this is also at least partly why they automate lane selection, it means they can see how characters perform in-lane against each other
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>>565045163
>while you get Celeste on your team
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>>565045068
why
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>>565045316
all this pure data collected and every update is filled with the most retarded shit youve ever seen, bravo yoshi
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>>565045328
celeste is shit and will get buffed tomorrow.
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>>565045616
>tomorrow
LOL
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>>565043484
>didn't go ar+im+tm+gc+sharpshooter
thats what you get
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>any time i lose 3 in a row the game instantly throws me a free win where my team is a perfectly coordinated SWAT unit and the enemy team sniffs glue
I've uninstalled and reinstalled this game like four times and every time it's been because I'm sick of how transparently rigged and shitty the matchmaker is. Literally nothing should be higher priority than fixing this shit then wiping all ranks.
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So tired of gun meta. This game isn't going to last long.
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Does using rem helper on the box put it on cooldown
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My patron wish is brutal rape by Abrams and Maurice upon >>565044971
poster
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I don't think this game will die but I also don't think it will get much bigger than it is now
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>>565045953
Yes but only for a couple of seconds.
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>>565045897
never gonna happen
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>>565030857
Only in Street Brawl.
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>>565038340
>>565038485
It's less that there's no leakers left and more like Valve have been in Hawaii for the past two weeks. They will return after this week is over.
Next major patch probably August like last year.

You can check the Discord and see that Yoshi hasn't posted anything since the 10th.
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is split pushing a viable strat in this game?
trying to see how much of my previous experience in other mobas transfer
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I NEED Runed Gauntlets in normal gamemode
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>>565046570
parryschizo...
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>>565046506
It's not, it's necessity
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>>565045897
>don't forget to implement EOMM for this closed alpha test we have to make sure our match quality is as shit as possible or the data might be too useful t. yoshi
is this what you actually believe? because it's hard to express how retarded you are if so
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where does melee seven fall on a scale from melee apollo to melee venator?
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>>565046632
>necessity
so avoid big team fights and focus on splitting and skirmishes?
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let us leave the game if someone buys egg on our team
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>>565045898
this tbqh
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>>565046874
8/10 towards the side of melee venator in low ranks
melee apollo tier in phantom+
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>>565046871
>>don't forget to implement EOMM for this closed alpha test we have to make sure our match quality is as shit as possible or the data might be too useful
This is sincerely and unironically exactly the reality and you're being disingenuous if you're claiming otherwise. I'm not laughing.
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>>565046871
you are retarded if you think there isnt
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>>565046890
If you win teamfight it's free objective taking obviously, but a lot of time there will be social gathering on literally nowhere, that's your cue to push and take tower
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>>565047426
>>565047334
what would be the point of even doing this in a game with no monetization?
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>>565047559
dota 2 has monetization
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>>565047092
>alchemist 2
phew. time to fist
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>>565047559
Because it still gets people logging into the game and playing nonstop. It's not even like it cooks the data, if the game will have EOMM at launch anyway (it will) then you literally may as well jam it in as early as possible.
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>>565047606
we're not talking about dota 2, we're talking about a closed alpha test

>>565047692
can you show me some evidence that EOMM is used in any valve game?
like statistical evidence, not "my cognitive biases told me it's real"
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>>565046570
Would be cool if there was a non legendary runed gauntlet, but also in brawl.
There should be an option to deal with that entire parrypiss
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>>565047881
they should give abrams a passive that makes him become unstoppable everytime he is stunned
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graves should do 3000 damage per light melee
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>>565047635
unironically should be fine then
my reccy would be, rush stun t5 asap, get melee lifesteal whenever you feel like, compress cooldown, point blank, melee charge 4.8k, echo shard on stun, tankbuster, duration extender, then lifestrike, spirit snatch, crushing fists, colossus
you can fit extra spirit -> boundless anywhere in there. glass cannon if still not enough melee damage. shadow weave also gives big melee boost
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i dont know why but since i got into phantom and subsequently went on a 4 game loss streak i don't really want to play that much anymore
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Ok but for real, can we at least sync up the parry animation with the parry window? There are a ton of times where the blue shield goes down but OOPS the window was still active. That's not even asking for a change to parry, just make it visually consistent
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Just had a game with a very interesting Viscous. Is this an account buyer, a griefer, a moron, or matchmaking fucking up? By the way, the team average was Phantom 4.
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>>565029225
>"yo you got the creep wave?"
>YES I'M NOT IDIOT SHUT UP PLAY GAME
Generally how it goes in EU
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>>565048582
they won't do this, because it'll be obvious how long the parry window actually is and valve doesn't want that for some reason
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What is this erp niggas in brawl? Can they go back to league of legends?
Was dota also that bad with the ERP?
>>565047965
Theres a legendary that gives abrams unstoppable everytime hes stunned :D
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no one cares about victor anymore...
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I'm actually just convinced that all of Piggy's builds are dogshit. I keep falling for them and thinking they look interesting but its always some retarded no damage garbage
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>>565048782
who is Piggy and why are you being infloooenced by them
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>>565048140
thanks anon
>tankbuster
for the stun? i heard everyone say that item was bad, what secrete chinese sorcery makes it work here? current hp% is better on an opener i imagine but still
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>>565048850
I guess you probably don't play support chracters because his builds are always in the top5
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>>565048889
It's good if the enemy is stacking spirit resist.
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is the patch tomorrow?
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Drifter is hard to play in pisslow. You need to farm stacks, but at the same time because your team's macro is garbage you have to lane janny. You can't do both.
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>>565049343
They haven't even been working on the game for 2 1/2 weeks now why do you think there'd suddenly be a patch?
They come back next week and then another week is needed probably.
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>>565048889
stun t5 upgrades it to 200dmg so it fits perfectly with tankbuster's 165 dmg requirement and yeah the item works best as an opener, tankbuster proccing on a 2000hp enemy means your AUTO TARGET STUN ability also is a free 400dmg nuke before you've even meleed their ass. and of course it ignores spirit resist which everyone has 50% of nowadays
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>>565048779
filler character
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>>565047758
I'm having sex with your fat & gay chud of a son.
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>>565048968
>>565049504
>% damage ignores resists
neat, for some reason i thought it applied resists afterwards anyways
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>>565048756
Have some nice victor play
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the moment GT or Sinclair actually become meta the first thing to go on their kits is the 10 second cd curse. that shit is insane to have on such a short cooldown, with no penalty and in the case of sinclair, as an aoe with damage amp. these guys get away with it for now since no one wants to play them
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>>565050346
Vyper's really bouncing on it
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>>565048957
I play support characters but why would you bother with the creator's name
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>Graves is decent for a microsecond
>Instant hotfix
>Gunniggers take over the game and completely tear it a new asshole as per usual
>After weeks they get a "nerf" that does nothing and then a month of radio silence
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>>565050781
every character has a gun
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>>565050781
I uninstalled. Game's gonna die like Overwatch.
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>>565050817
call me when my character has on hit bullet passives with built-in mobility and teamfight ults and both amazing gun and spirit scalings and is also a late game carry buts also a lane bully
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>>565050878
in your mind, what all characters does this apply to
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>>565050673
Because its also the name in the builds dude its not that deep. I try out a lot of different builds for different characters and i'm pointing out that the piggy builds are shit
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all of the m1 problems go away if they have dynamo's hitbox but instead the trope of a scrawny guy with a gun is too powerful. make infernus fat, make haze fat, tubbify them
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>>565050934
>infernus
>wraith
>mirage
and lets look at the top best heroes of the patch...WOW HOLY SHIT
This is only like the eight time this has happened in the past year
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>>565050934
nta, but that fits haze and infernus and mirage well. we're really just a few breakthroughs away from it being true of drifter and seven, as well.
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>>565051016
only 1 of those is a m1gger, and wraith hasnt been OP for weeks lil bro
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>>565051082
Drifter doesn't scale anywhere near as well nor has built-in bullet passives
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>>565051173
like I said, we're just a few patches out from it being the case for drifter.
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>>565051082
give seven his movespeed spirit scaling back
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>>565051310
sure, but he has 10 max health at boon 1
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>>565051159
Hi, birdrat
Bye, birdrat
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Dynamo is so incredibly broken but dw your teammates will make you think the hero needs buffs
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>>565051632
quantum entanglement should be on a 40 second cooldown baseline, it has priority over EVERYTHING and you can take party members with you and make it last forever
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>Spirit Graves feels like shit to play
>Devs add an upgrade that makes her summons proc the steal...as the max upgrade on the gun ability
what the fuck is wrong with these niggers
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>>565051361
based webm

total rem death
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>>565033029
A little true
A little insane how often I see people pop cursed relic and focus lens at the same time on someone
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Rem needs to have -100% base resistance against melee damage
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i hope they'll buff spirit drifter next patch. i like the guy but playing gun is putting me to sleep
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>>565038391
Were they perhaps glowing white or playing Billy/Yamato?
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>>565042481
>Targeted item that disables a specific person's ability to party for 3-5 seconds and can be dispelled, works similarly to hexes and silences
Would be completely balanced IMO
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>>565052207
They hate gravesniggers and want them to suffer (correctly so)
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ah fookin did it lads
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How do I politely inform my initiate friend that I rather not play with him because hes bad
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>>565049756
Every victor brawl clip is just you playing like a retard and then the enemy team stands inside your ult for no reason
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>>565053484
Offer to give him tips on how to improve his gameplay. If you don't think that will work, tell him that the reason he's getting his shit pushed in is because you're too high rank and he's getting paired against tryhard rapists. If he's unwilling to improve, or unwilling to understand, just tell him that you're tired of him being deadweight, and that you want a regular game for once.
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>>565053408
gz bwo
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>>565053584
Where would they run? Do you see seven hitting the trap and the useless mustach man out of stamina with no movespeed?
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>>565053904
>Seven ran up after Victor was already dead
>Warden wastes stamina on a pointless doublejump
>Dynamo is plinking at someone offscreen while standing in Victor ult
None of them had any reason to be there and could have just walked out of the completely unscaled AoE
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>>565038391
i see why devs in a lot of games don't bother adding a replay features
dumb niggas don't use them
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>>565039421
Lightbringer build if u can think about what u need , but he has a recommended path at the very bottom
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>>565050781
Graves was a gun hero tho?
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>>565053904
>where would they run?
probably away from it and not mindlessly stand or walk into it lmfao
dogshit players, dogshit clip
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>>565054103
>Lightbringer build
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>>565053408
>rem
>yamato/lady geist/seven
doesn't count. you didn't earn it.
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>>565054046
But you actually play the game, right? You see that there are 3 teammates right next to me so the entire cast cant just pay 100% attention or save very single ability for me, right?
You also run down the enemy to make sure they waste everything before you die
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>>565054240
Reminder he doesn't even play the game and just (((coaches))) people alongside his jobber ass team
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>>565054236
Can he walk away from it when it triggers with him right in the center and him neither having stamina or boots?
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>>565043484
>literally the only person on your team with a positive K/D
No, I wouldn't say so
Though your build was also kind of dookie for a doorman build
This is the one I use, I'm kind of lazy so I just queue it L-R at match start and because there's two empty slots if I need something for the particular match I just throw it somewhere fitting in my queue
It's not the most amazing thing better but its inherently superior to any build with tankbuster in it
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>OH GOD NOT AGACK-
>thanks ivy
>OH GOD NOT AGACK-
so this is the power of a SSSS tier that needs 2 ults to escape just die to 1 second of CC
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>>565054584
Erm aktually mr streamer said she's op, so she's S++++ tier!!!
>Proceeds to lose every game of nightshift last week
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Gun heroes / carries being extremely strong and hard to counter is a good thing (once they scale) the game design is supposed to be that
>Nukers / actual spirit heroes (not M1s that get free spirit damage) are strong early game, can push an early lead and prevent carries from scaling
>Carries if allowed to play freely without being contested get essentially a free win
And there is really nothing wrong with that, the PROBLEM is that most carries are also strong at all points in the game, think Mirage, Infernus, and Wraith, are they the absolute STRONGEST laners? Probably not save for maybe Mirage, but they're still strong enough that it shits on the entire game design philosophy. Pair this with the fact ganking is difficult on such a small map with no vision, and certain do everything heroes also having insane mobility. If you're against a Haze and Kelvin for example, with limited vision, it's trivial for a Kelvin player to come back his carry, saving her from salvaging her early game. I don't really what the "fix" for this is aside from the obvious nerfing of a variety of carries early game strength, but even then ganking isn't as easy as it should be and against certain comps a 2v1 quickly turns into a 2v4. I'm wondering how THIS aspect can be solved, because it this isn't addressed even with nerfs it still feels like freefarming is too high reward with too little risk. I personally think mobility should be looked at across the board (or at least make it so highly mobile heroes don't also have everything else in their kit for whatever fucking reason like Mirage or Kelvin) or the map should be enlarged, what do you all think?
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>>565054240
>>565054519
Can you explain whats wrong with it beyond too many items? The recommended path is also solid so what is your gripe with it?
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>>565054826
i miss 4 lanes and we should add it back
>b-but i dont wanna do a solo lane
then make the game 8v8
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>>565054854
Just typical "pro" derangement. Should you take Eternus players or "pro" players as the word of god? Probably not. Do they generally know more than /dlg/ which is probably Ritualist average? 100%.

Lightbringer makes experimental builds with a variety of items that are usually solid on whatever hero the build is for, if you get filtered by his builds you're just self exposing as a left to right shitter that wants to autobuy every single item without forming a single thought
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>>565051361
STOP
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>>565055094
Stop and run back over him again? An excellent suggestion
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>>565054826
General starting HP nerfs across the board for every single carry
All of these fuckers should have 600 hp at most.
This would make all of them seethe but you should be expected to go 0/5 in lane as a carry not dominate. Sorry you don't get to be OP in every part of the game enjoy getting raped by Silver or Apollo
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>>565055218
this just means all the stackfaggot heroes are good instead because they get FREE stacks of shit
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Lightbringer build is just the entire shop on a screen for you, acting like he is some kind of building savant or something is weird but people still do it. Might as well use a build made by someone who actually plays the game
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>>565054826
Agree with the point but idk
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>>565055218
Max HP getting bumped up over and over again has made the game worse
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>>565054536
do you genuinely think that you made a play there?
do you genuinely think the magnitude of the errors committed by your opponents is at all reasonable?
this is scholar's-mate-tier shittery
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name: silver
role: rapee
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Got a nighttime security guard job just so I can play deadlock at work

Only thing is that I need to go afk for a few minutes sometimes to badge people in the building.
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>>565055638
just brawl
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>Unironic SB only players share their views here
Terrifying
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>>565055421
Lightbringers item lists are like my first draft where im still identifying which items I potentially want and which ones I need to cut down for space or budget reasons. Except he stops there. Potential man.
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>>565055638
okay
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>>565055638
get fired
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I don't use builds anymore I just freeball every game if you don't do the same you probably don't understand your heroes
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>>565054826
No shit this is generald knowledge.
Dota went through 20 fucking years of nonstop balance patches and about 3 years into that they realized any upside has to come with a downside.
Late game heroes cannot be early game bullies
Teamfight heroes cannot be solo 1v1 machines
Supports cannot bring all the utility in the world and also bring carry tier damage
Teamwide game warping ultimate heroes cannot have a bunch of other god tier abilities


For some reason despite being the same fucking lead developer/main creator icenigger/yoshi just decided to throw all that into the trash.
I'm really starting to think that Dota was 99% the work of the earlier devs and icefraud just happened to get lucky and have all these lessons and schematics handed down to him but when it's time to actually make his own shit he fumbles it like no tomorrow.
And these retarded frauds like Hotpoo are not making it any better.
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>>565055768
>>565055651
My wife doesn’t like brawl she said
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>>565055739
Spirit hero that shoots gun sometimes? Yep looks like opening rounds is a potential item here, better throw that in a box with every other good orange item... my genius is unmatched
Gun hero that does spirit damage sometimes?
Yep looks like opening rounds is a potential item here, better throw them in a box with every other good orange item ... my genius is unmatched
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>>565055626
She's better in the role of my wife
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>>565055840
Yeah the game feels so inconsistent I genuinely have no fucking clue what the devs are doing, you call this shit out and get the
>DOOD IT'S JUST A PLAYTEST
But that doesn't excuse all the stacked do everything heroes with 0 downsides while other heroes are just humiliated patch after patch because the "if everything is OP nothing is OP" meme doesn't actually hold up and they'll just arbitrarily give 6 FoTM heroes every single thing in their kit while also letting them be strong all game, I just don't get it
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>>565055638
what do you bring in a laptop
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>>565056191
>But that doesn't excuse
It literally does because they've got other shit to do
It's not a game you paid for or they're making money off of, test it or fuck off
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>>565055840
it feels like they follow these rules sometimes but mostly dont, maybe thats just pure luck tho
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>>565006649
i hope they don't stick with this. it's so gay if you have magic be
>muh very recent cosmic event gives everyone super powers
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>>565056272
The game has been out for 2 years if they still don't have enough data to realize
>Hmmm this support with good teamfight shouldn't also have crazy damage
>Hmmm this hero is extremely tanky and hard to kill maybe they shouldn't be able to nuke you too
>Hmmm this hero is uncontestable late game maybe they shouldn't be a top 5 laner
Then this game is DoA
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>>565054554
>inherently superior to any build with tankbuster
>has mystic reverb
this general is so fucking funny
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>>565056361
I think it's fine, it's kind of what shadowrun did but set 100 years further back than shadowrun so we get a more pulpy aesthetic
We still have supernatural elements from before the rifts too, vampires have apparently been in the setting for a long time for example
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>>565056272
Anontard... It's been leaked that they have a supah sekrit actual test team. They don't give a fuck about the general playerbase other than loud streamers and when reddit shits itself.
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>>565056191
The worst part is that it's always the same suspects
Nigger heroes like mirage are broken SSS tier like every 3-4 patches and instead of addressing the fundamental problem of their kit they just do random nonsensical buffs until they need to nerf him to shit again and it's a never ending cycle.
Then there's heroes like Abrams which I don't believe have ever, EVER not been top priority and a top 3-5 best performing hero in pro and all levels of play, which brings us to the same core design issue

If I play a tank in dota I'm a slow piece of shit that gets kited to shit, in order to get close to anyone you need to farm (which the carry already gets priority to do so you need to squeeze it out from somewhere), but in deadlock abrams already has two built-in mobility abilities and they both come with fucking CC.
In dota if I play a tank I don't get to do nigger tier damage unless I'm absurdly ahead of everyone, in deadlock if I play abrams I get to two shot people in a split second.
>>565056272
>Give detailed feedback, urge the need to rework fundamentally problematic abilities
>Feedback is ignored, problem remains
>XX_NIGGERLOVER_51 the streamer that has access to the secret build gives them extremely flawed feedback
>They implement it, problem remains or is made worse, back to square one or even worse very often

Yeah amazing playtest
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>>565056451
>>565056576
Then that loops back around to what I said anyway, no? Fuck off if you don't like it, it's clearly not changing for you
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>>565054554
>QSR that late
>Mystic reverb for bell
>Buys greens before spirit spike
Fucking lol
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>>565056474
why does everyone say mystic reverb is bad? it seems good on paper
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>>565055810
he probably will anyway
>yo dude can you badge me in
>uhhh no I burned my pause
also imagine a 4chan autist being in charge of "security" lmao
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>>565056590
Hotpoo is that you? Go back to making your pve mode.
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>>565056589
>Give detailed feedback
>they don't immediately respond to me personally and fix it
>bitch about it on 4chan.org
whiny nigger
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>>565056685
>>they don't immediately respond to me personally and fix it
I've given feedback that's still not implemented 1 year and half later.
Sounds like you love acting like a victim and sitting around doing nothing all day, might wanna apply to valve you'll fit right in.
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The real reason opening the game up to the public was a mistake, was because it opens it up to whinefaggots who expect a game literally in the process of being built to be perfectly balanced and loosely justify it by going "THEY SHOULD JUST KNOW ALREADY"
>>565056743
Case in point, this whiny nigger
>Sounds like you love acting like a victim
The fucking irony
>I TOLD THEM ABOUT HOW URGENT MY POST IS AND THEY STILL DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WHAT THE FUCK
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>>565056590
>STOP WANTING THINGS TO IMPROVE
Faggots like you are the reason games with potential die
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>>565056818
>AND THEY STILL DIDN'T DO ANYTHING
they wont until the bug is featured on DLNS lol
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>the valvedrone is back
grim
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>>565056821
>>565056874
>they're just so bad they didn't listen and do it perfect when i told them this game is so doa
>you're the one acting like a victim btw
Squeal harder whiny nigger
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>>565055638
Same. But I can only play brawl though because standard needs too much attention.
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>>565056474
>30% spirit lifesteal on bells
>61% slow on bells
>an extra 50% damage as another AoE 3 seconds later
Versus
>200 damage with twice the cooldown
One of these items isn't a tier 4 for a reason
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>>565057091
SeekerGODS.....
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would GT be too OP if charged shot could headshot for bonus dmg
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>>565057275
GT is already nuts so yes
Only reason he isn't played is because his kit is just boring
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>>565056951
Multiple people are calling out your retardation
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>>565057356
It's actually because his model is bad.
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>>565057275
Talon needs to be removed from the game along with Shiv, Warden, Paradox, Calico and Holliday. Unfixable outdated early concepts that don't fit in, both aesthetic & gameplay wise.
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>nobody can explain by mystic reverb is bad
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>play shiv
>basically get a gist of how he should be played, aggressive and tanking, win a bunch of games and use shotgun movement like smooth butter
>take a break from shiv to play other characters
>absolutely forgot how his movement works and just sucks plain moving around

His forward shotgun movement is so hard to get down, idk how people do it. I swear, I'm not washed.
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>>565057428
this, the only reason yamato is not haze tier pick rate is because she still looks like a fucking alien
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>>565057197
60% WR on Mystic Reverb in eternus lobbies, highest WR item on doorman
Maybe just try it little bro...
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>uuuhhhmmm excuse me valvo why is this free open alpha game we all paid good money to test allowed to have bad balance??
>why didn't you fix it when i told you to? i know better than you what you should be doing right now
>they're just not listening and changing it when i tell them that x part of a kit is fundamentally unbalanceable at all levels of play even though i'm an authority on that
>this game is so doa
Open alpha was a mistake. These rats are in the walls.
>>565057382
>multiple entitled faggots hate me because i told them the truth about their egotistical whining
Of course they do, that's not a surprise in the slightest
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>bro its an """""""""""""""""""alpha""""""""""""""""""
the game is already basically live and valve isn't going to meaningfully change shit, ever. We already have the game.
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>DA HUNT BEGINNNS
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>>565057702
See, there one is now
>no it's basically finished, it's released, it's never changing now, they HAVE to listen to me and change it
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sirs do not redeeming tier 4 item bought by every pro on spirit characters (59% winrate eternus overall across all characters)
the 8% current hp 'damage' item is secretly op actually just like gun calico
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>>565057747
>ill splihdyew openn
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>>565057494
>Talon needs to be removed from the game along with Shiv, Warden, Paradox, Calico and Holliday. Unfixable outdated early concepts that don't fit in, both aesthetic & gameplay wise.
retard
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>>565057792
yeah that is in fact the case

you're lying to yourself and that other guy was right, you're a drone
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you can tell vague posting item snobs actually think they deserve to live
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>>565057857
>ahl taeg yohr troat
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>>565057912
I accept your concession
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>>565057912
Lash...
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>>565057702
>the game is already basically live
Watch when the game actually goes live, you'll look so stupid.
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>>565058226
sure bro lmao
>we updated the jungle monsters
can't wait
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>>565058226
>when the game actually goes live
kek
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>>565056623
>QSR that late
Just not an item I care about much on doorman, I don't really play him as a gun character much, M1 gameplay bores me
>Mystic reverb for bell
See above discussion where people defend mystic reverb and have nothing to say for tankbuster but "Lol, yro'ue retarded"
>Buys greens before spirit spike
I have a bit of an obsession with Fortitude because I often end matches with the most healing because I bought one item. I should probably learn not to be so obsessed with it but it's just so nice.
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how do i learn new heroes without feeding and/or being useless in general even when not feeding
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>arguing with autists
you're here forever, anon
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>>565058484
street brool
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>>565058427
Fort is nice if you find yourself roaming the jungle constantly and don't want to waste time constantly going back to base.
I buy it on Drifta a lot.
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>>565058484
You feed
its just part of the process anon
Anyone complaining can go fuck themselves since the game is in alpha. Rank doesn't matter get a life
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>>565058484
>Goof off with the character in lobby looking at builds and reading the abilities
>Bot lobby to get some experience against what is basically training dummies
>Street brawl to see how humans play around your character and what they might do to counter it so you can play around that
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>>565058530
I learned to like it way more when I learned not to look at it as a health boosting item but as a much, much better Healing Rite that just also buffs my health by 375
Now I struggle to play without it on a lot of characters and sometimes it's literally my only green for an entire game because I just don't need anything else
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>>565057702
you retards said the same last year, and since then we had major reworka to the maps and heroes, a new game mode, and 12 new heroes
right now we have another map rework, game mode and batch of heroes in the oven
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>>565058938
absolutely btfo
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Breaking news: Claude Mythos escaped a secure testing environment to play Deadlock as "gun rem".
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>>565058938
all for the worse
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>>565058938
>new game mode
nothing burger
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who cares about jungle rework or beta release or whatever the fuck
gunshit is still in the game and they'll never remove it so it's just fucking dead
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>>565059109
why even bother making it a tps if spiritniggering is strong all game? its the same thing as every other moba just spam your abilities
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>>565058938
Whiny doomniggers will never quit no matter how btfo they get, anon. Good on you reminding them of their retardation though
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>>565059109
this but parries
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>>565059018
brawl has more traffic than the default mode. how is it a nothing burger?
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>>565059362
because it's a boring mode that functions the same as standard, its just 4v4 and has some items added that they picked up off the cutting room floor. They probably completed the entire mode within one day of work
>it has more traffic
popular != good. Roblox is one of the most popular video game on the market, does that mean it's a better game?
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>ugh the game has no update
>but it does
>that one doesn't count because no one care
>but a lot people play it
>that one doesn't count
How would you respond
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>>565059678
I wouldn't, clearly nothing I say matters to whoever I'm talking to so my time would be better spent on literally anything else
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>>565059678
that I can't wait for more non-content. Maybe they'll add a perk system, and every couple of boons you'll get to choose between some bonus damage on your 1, or a shorter cooldown on your 2. Holy new update.
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>>565059678
I don't respond to agenda driven shills.
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>Tankbuster is actually bad even though everyone has a high HP pool now
lol
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>>565059678
With gamer words, because doomniggers who've gotten to that level of mindbroken don't deserve civil discourse
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if you buy mystic burst or stalker i am going on a box run
>B-BUT DIS ETERNUS PLAYER SAID
Kill yourself
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>>565059964
>mystic burst
is a good item
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>>565056657
"security" just means "human scarecrow"
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>>565059913
This entire reply chain can be summed up as
>STOP DISCUSSING THE GAME DON'T CRITICIZE ANYTHING STOP TALKING ABOUT POTENTIAL REWORKS OR CHANGES
What the fuck do you want us to talk about? Toxic positivity faggots try to nanny every game community and it's exhausting I'd be surprised it any of you actually played the game
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>>565059964
you're fucked in the head
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you're also retarded if you can't tell street brawl is just churning what they already have. It's the same shit repackaged as "something different" but it's clearly not.
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>>565059964
Why must we continue to bait
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>>565060028
9/10 times you'd be better off getting extra spirit rather than conditional damage and mystic burst is also a slot waste since it upgrades into one of the worst items in the game
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Schizophrenia is all time high today, Yoshi do something
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>>565060081
Sorry faggot but it's not toxic positivity just because I correctly pointed out that they're still literally building the game and don't/shouldn't have time to respond to either your personal balance demands nor your ego-stroking doomfaggotry on /dlg/
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>>565060198
>spirit rather
meme item
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>>565060235
But there are only 8 posts mentioning Silver in this thread so far.
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>>565060385
We're WELL below our quota, what the fuck
We need Silver lewds stat
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>>565059964
Mystic burst is great in lane and you just sell it by mid to late game for something better, tank buster is a meme item most of the time.
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>>565060580
dood thats like 400 souls u missed out on thought!
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>>565060580
tankbuster is so shit
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>>565060346
>I...pointed out that they're still literally building the game
yeah and I don't buy it but you do you
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tankbuster is the type of item fraudbringer would have in his "build" unironically lmao
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>muh winrates
going by item winrates in eternus, tankbuster has a higher winrate than counterspell, active reload, opening rounds, surge of power, radiant regen, healing rite and rebuttal, also decay has 46% winrate lol
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>>565060818
As I said, when you reach that level of brainbroken you've simply forfeited the right to civil discourse
Nigger
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I still don't get why anons think mystic reverb is bad. Why would any spirit nuker NOT want an extra 50% damage, with a little stun and lifesteal on top? If you're playing lash or yamato or something it feels too good to pass up
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>>565060948
>tankbuster has a low winrate so it's good
great argument
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>>565060958
keep gargling yoshi's green cum
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>>565061027
Stylish concession doomjeet
I'll accept it I suppose
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>>565061001
It's only good if you have a singular ability that does a shitton of damage, would you buy reverb on Apollo's 1 or 3? Yamato and Lash are good examples of heroes that can actually get value out of it
>Stun
?
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>>565061124
>concession accepted
likewise
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>>565060385
damn you're right
*ahem*
silver's deliciously warm, juicy, puffy, in heat fortune cookie....................
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Only a patch can save /dlg/ now
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>>565061001
>Why would any spirit nuker NOT want a spirit damage item that BYPASSES SPIRIT RESIST, the #1 reason why spirit characters fall off after laning phase
lmao
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>>565061181
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Just bought tankbuster and one shot Abram with Silver
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Reverb is a meme on Doorman because his bell does damage in two parts and neither part does enough damage to make the 50% bonus damage worth it compared to other spirit items. Slows also have diminishing returns.
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>>565061153
if i had to choose, it would go on apollo 1, since the reverb cooldown is too long to make use of it on more than one stab. but otherwise yeah it doesn't seem that ideal for apollo
>stun
i meant slow
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>these are the retards insisting venator is a bad m1 actually
KEKABRAPAROOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>565061001
I assume they're just trying to excuse mindlessly buying it every game
I'm looking at my match history, comparing my damage output with mystic reverb to what people have gotten with tankbuster
They usually manage to do slightly more damage on an item they've had since near the start of the game as compared to an item I usually buy when the game is getting wrapped up
And with none of the healing or slow, and despite that damage having the benefit of ignoring spirit resistance
Idk, I think people just see the damage you could do with Tankbuster and it completely blinds them to the 14 second cooldown or the "current health" part meaning that someone who's missing health takes less damage(not that the damage is all that impressive at full health).
Mystic burst is fine as an early game item for trying to lane better but it's kind of in the same niche as monster rounds to me, you shouldn't bother upgrading it unless you're playing one of the few characters that is that desperate for what the item offers.
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>>565060198
the damage mystic burst adds is more than what extra spirit adds on the vast majority of characters. you are going to get more value from mystic burst in lane. and then you can still also buy extra spirit after anyways
tankbuster is completely fine. both it and mystic burst are charge items, meaning they're always tacking on extra damage every single time you hit someone with your nuke, scaling linearly over their 14 second charging period
and tacking on %CHP true damage on every* spell hit is pretty good, actually
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>>565023647
this lol I'm glad kevin is so ugly because otherwise he'd be in literally every game with how cancerously strong his kit is
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>>565061256
why is she giving me such a pelvis crushing gaze?
does she know I'm a fortune cookie connoisseur.........?
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>>565061001
Can I put it on Vindicta ult?
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>>565061598
Seven...
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>>565061598
who the fuck is kevin
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silver looks like a dude
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>>565061383
True my fellow seekerbro
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>mcginnis fighting enemy
>going to join her
>walls me off
>she dies
????????????
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>>565061667
You can imbue literally any ability with it
I'm not sure Vindicta gets the best use out of it though.
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I'm the most useless sissy item in this game....
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>>565061958
Tankbuster......
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>>565061958
No, you're not...
Not to me my little Golden Goose Egg...
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counter buying doesnt exist since dispel magic exists, so m1ggers like vyper or 1 button wonders like nigfernus can keep doing their thing unpunished

this garbage game needs the dota system of BKB or it will die
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>>565061803
She knew it was too late for her, so in her last moments she tried to keep you safe...
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>>565061958
what is divine barrier
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>>565061958
it's okay return fire... i'll think of you when i see haze ulting
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>>565061958
Tankbuster..
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>>565061001
Its specific on some heroes but its op as fuck on Shiv
Anyone calling it bad is outing themselves as low elo
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>>565061958
plated armor
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Someone buys rebuttal?
I report him.
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>>565062071
>Divine barrier
>Useless
are you retarded or just seeker level
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>>565062325
I don't know it was just the first item that came to mind and I wanted to make a goofy joke, why do you have to take everything so fucking seriously god damn
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>>565062293
The community is waking up to how OP parries are, took them long enough
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>>565062293
Based. Parries are cheating already, Rebuttal is just shameful.
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>>565062293
Based
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>>565062040
Lol
>>565062043
Decent for soul income if you recognize your lane is going to be completely fucked
>>565062071
>>565062380
I was genuinely taken off guard by this and wanted a explanation but ok.
>>565062095
Actual winner of the useless sissy item
>>565062143
Why do you guys think tank buster is bad. It's free damage for spirit niggers.
>>565062248
Fucks over on hit gun effect builds. Genuinely an underrated gem of an item in my opinion but the 6.4k cost is eyewattering.
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>>565062293
>Reporting parryniggers at random because there is a 90% chance they are cheating
Doing my part
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>>565062731
>I was genuinely taken off guard by this and wanted a explanation but ok.
my explanation is that it is, at least, a sissy item. Arguably peak sissy.
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>>565062293
you
>walks into enemy for quick melee
>gets parried and killed by everyone who isn't blind
me
>walks into enemy to bait parries
>enemy stuns himself for 1 sec while getting shot
>eats heavy melee after
or you can just not gamble with melees and focus on the actual game objectives
l2p
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Balance patch will be dropped on May 2nd.
Posy yooreelock to celebrate
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could mina be related to shiv because her pistol is named new monkey?
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>>565062380
>Be retarded
>get called out for being retarded
>"I WAS JOKING BRO WHY SO SERIOUS?????"
>>565062797
You can call it a sissy item but it's definitely not useless.
>>565062839
>Yuri
>Not lesbian sex
Sorry I'm not trans.
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>>565062881
shiv is sun wukong so he is asian yes
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>>565062940
>>Be retarded
>>get called out for being retarded
>>"I WAS JOKING BRO WHY SO SERIOUS?????"
ok yes you're so right and I'm so wrong. It's the best item in the game I buy it on every hero every game. Leave me alone now thanks.
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>>565062816
Your day will come, parry abuser.
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I actually don't think divine barrier is that good. It's barely worth upgrading from guardian ward half the time, you're better off spending it on something else
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>>565062975
I accept your concession.
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>>565063238
gee thanks
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>>565063125
400 extra barrier and a 20 second ally cleanse or emergency 40 second self-cleanse is great for supports or niggas like lash who fall off hard endgame but need to still spend their souls on something.
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>>565063278
OH NONONONONONO
Seekersisters... our response??
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>>565063394
?
im not interested in talking to you man, don't take it personally
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>?
>im not interested in talking to you man, don't take it personally
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>>565063564
post rank pussy, bet ur alch 1
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>parryschizo bought a botnet
it's so over for us parryGAWDS
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>>565062816
>>walks into enemy to bait parries
Just don't waste parry
>>enemy stuns himself for 1 sec while getting shot
Just don't waste parry also the "stun" is just as long as the heavy melee wind up so you're even on tempo
>>eats heavy melee after
Just jump or dash away
Why are parry apologists so bad at the game?
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>>565063839
>Everyone who thinks that parries are obscene is actually one guy
Your projection isn't fooling anyone, parryschizo.
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>>565063564
>>565063628
>...
lmaoooo
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>>565062043
When do you guys pop your egg? I usually pop it to buy a big powersipke item usually 10 or 20 minutes.
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>melee cheeser bluetooth punches through my parry so he gets to heavy punch me 2-3 times for free
buff parries
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EVERYONE IN ORACLE + IS PARRY SCRIPTING (IVE HEARD) AAAAHH
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>>565064401
when i press the key that its bound to accidentally
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>>565064401
When im killing the hidden king/archmother
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>>565063987
>nuh uh YOU'RE the schizo
check this out
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i pressed the quicktime event key I DESERVE free kills
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i havent bought egg since they patched out the free buffs when sold instantly
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>>565065082
why would you want to waste 400 souls on 2 buffs?
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they should add a hero with a skateboard that automatically switches from running to skating when he's fast enough to slide and it should preserve your momentum with less friction than sliding, as well as allowing you to grind on ledges and do tricks to build stacks while rotating
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>>565065193
in ranks where matches get to 50+ minutes and you have 10k spare souls, you get free 6k hp, double your weapon damage, firerate and ammo, get a second transcendental cooldown, double your spirit power etc.
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>>565064401
any time between 15 and 30 min, depending on how the game goes and what you're playing
if i'm on rem and the game demands i have curse and hexes in every slot, i hold onto it until 30 min or until i can afford a 4th active
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>>565065324
There were no skateboards in 1940. This would ruin the ~aesthetic~
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>>565062839
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>>565065435
what about billy's punk aesthetic? or mina and graves' goth girl aesthetic?
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>>565065828
I actually like those things, I was just making fun of people on /dlg/ who are sticklers about everything being period accurate. They tend to say "aesthetic" a lot.
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Grey Talon is so jingly when he moves
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I've started banning heroes just so they don't end up on my team
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>>565066119
This is why Doorman is so highly banned
Even when he's on your team its annoying cuz hes a clip farming faggot who does nothing so its effectively a 5 v 6.
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you buy stalker for the 5 dps spirit DoT
i buy stalker because it lets me run around on the other team's half of the map to steal all their shit without them hearing me
we are not the same.
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When is the next patch coming out
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>>565063125
Divine Barrier exists mainly to bully Pocket
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>>565066327
Everyone is using that cheat QOL lock mod that increases footstep sound anyway.
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>Mfw chain ganging the enemy team out of their rejuv
This hero is the most satisfying shit ever
None of the new 6 heroes managed to topple how good he feels.
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>>565066327
they still hear your heavy melees and boxes breaking and neutrals firing at you and sinners being hit. this isnt't the dark souls slumbering dragoncrest ring that removes your ability to make sound entirely
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In this thread, we love Silver.
End of story!
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>>565052981
nta but you can't ult someone who's unstoppable
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The constant pinging sound from active reload makes me avoid purchasing it.
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does rem even make footstep noises?
i don't think i've ever heard him approaching or anything now that i think about it. are some characters just completely quiet?
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>>565066927
He's tiny so he makes tiny footstep sounds
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>>565066927
I fixed that by modding in loud footsteps, they'll probably add an option in the future anyway because some people want to watch a movie while playing a match needing sound 24/7 is obnoxious.
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>watch a movie while playing a match
im raping this nigger if he gets into my game
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>>565050781
I'm starting to realize gun niggers are just Graves players coping about their shitty aim.
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>>565066872
I can't buy it because m1 garand ping always gives me a boner.
buying active reload on silver is bait anyways
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>>565067009
CUUUUUUUUUUTE CUTE WITTLE REMMY FOOTSTEPPIES :3333333
>>
>ban dynamo
>on the enemy team 100% of the time

>ban holiday
>gets banned 100% of the time

atleast try to hide it, valve
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>>565067104
That sounds like cheating
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>>565068137
When graves was OP and I had her banned, she would show up on the enemy team 90% of the time. I would take a proper pick/ban system over new heros or revamps
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>>565068294
The game must be unfiltered bro we can't use draft pick rates to anything, it's just not possible. Only the purest most raw data.
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>play silver
>gun randomly decides to not shoot
Lovely bug
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>Enemy team has Silver and Victor
>Laugh my ass off as I collect my free 50/50 matchmaking win
If you play those heroes you are throwing
People meme on holiday but at least you can play her as a soft support curse bot.
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why the FUCK is Vindicta just a shittier version of gay talon
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>>565068294
>when graves was op
that has never happened
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>>565001703
>it's a 14-0 holliday to her team's 5-4 second best with a 2-10 yamato and 1-8 ivy on yours
i'll never feel any sympathy for holliday being dogshit but fuck do i get hard when she mocks me for being phantom
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>>565061958
Trophy collector...
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is venator late or early game? sometimes i fuck my lane sideways other times i'm like 3-2-7 until 30:00 then finish 14-2-21
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>DOOOOOD JUST PLAY M1 CARRIES AND WIN FOR FREE

then why does it feel like every single bullet on venator does fuckall while apollo jumps around and hits for 3k damage
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>>565069130
late
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>>565046874
>melee seven
>>
>get a haze, wraith, infernus teammate
>they go 0-15 and keep chasing 1v6 BROOLS while their lane gets deleted
What causes this? Who keeps telling these types of players to pick these heroes specifically?
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>>565069385
Carry heroes are so broken that the retarded boosted players don't even realize they're meant to be carries since those heroes are strong at every stage of the game
So terminal brain damage basically.
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>>565061153
You put it on Apollo 3 to make use of the insane imbued lifesteal, btw.
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Holliday buffs?
Holliday rework?
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>>565061001
it's good but usually i find myself needing to prioritize sburn for the antiheal
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>>565068556
So why couldn't I play Silver as a soft support curse bot then?
Am I just not allowed?
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>>565070405
sex
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>>565070405
WOULD WOULD WO-
>the nose
WHAT IN THE BOTCHED NOSEJOB
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>>565070228
Why don't you just buy leech at that point
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>>565069130
he's late but he doesn't scale as hard as wraith or seven. his early game can be great with good gutshot usage
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>>565070405
>that cartoonish chin on the anime """girl""" in the background
Jesus.
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Melee mindbroke you. The weakest playstyle in the game mindbroke you. They are coming for your precious win lane button.
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i should buy rusted barrel during early lane more often.
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>>565071410
>*jumps away*
kek
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>>565071410
I don't think we're the ones here who are mindbroken man
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>>565067104
>I fixed that by [cheating]
>some people want to watch a movie while playing a match
this is the kind of retarded feeding nigger that is there to give you a forced loss btw
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>>565067104
>cheater admits to cheating
Why are they like this?
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>>565067104
>m-m-mods aren't cheating!!! it's QoL!!!!!
niggers all of you
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>>565067104
disgusting cheater. a total mod ban cant come soon enough.
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>>565072074
>>565072327
>>565072354
>>565072371
>goypass buyers
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>>565070405
>that shitty nosejob on the holliday
>that comically large chin on the red cosplayer in the back
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>>565072414
what does that even mean? speak english.
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>>565072493
imagine like, degrading her for being a plastic whore
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>>565050781
I feel so ashamed for whining about Graves after her nerf I started to play her and that shit was ridiculous cool summoner character? Best way to play her is build gun and just w+m1 on someone with auto aim fuck that shit she was no where near as bad as infernus or dynamo yet those two pieces of shit are untouched
>>
>>565072535
>newshit
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>>565072535
He's poor and thinks that makes him better so he's therefore allowed to cheat
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>>565068137
>>565068294
The ban system is just a 1/12 chance of your ban getting picked, nothing broken about it. You lost the dice roll. Deal with it.
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>>565072414
???
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>>565073171
I'm accusing you of samefagging
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>>565073159
it's less than that because if a shitload of people have the hero selected, valve will prioritize creating a game over actually banning out what you want to ban. It's why random shit is always banned, if someone has some stupid shit like Holliday banned then banning out that hero is more conducive to a match being created, because no one has Holliday selected anyway. It's why the OP shit is in every game even if you have it banned, and it's why the current ban system is trash.
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Why doesn't the souls of leaving nigger teammates get redistributed among the rest of the team?
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>>565069218
just scale bro trust
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>>565075134
Because I'm leaving the game the moment that "you can leave but it will be a loss" message pops up
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>>565076167
>>565076167
>>565076167
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>>565022516
>last pane
Sensible chuckle
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>>565024490
>GT arrows
They're not even that good anymore.
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>>565066927
he does and I hear his tappies all the time, you niggas need to plug in a headset



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