Path of Exile 2: Return of the Ancients - Uncover the Truth Teaser https://youtu.be/leKD92i_KYs?si=Nj1AielUtZnfSDBY[PoE 1]>3.28 Patch Noteshttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/patch-notes>Compiled links, tools and utilitieshttps://pastebin.com/SHt8unCt[PoE 2]>Druidshttps://pathofexile2.com/druids>Ongoing 0.4 patch noteshttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/2212Previous >>564821425
First for uhhhhhhhhhhhh
PoE 2 EoS soon when 0.5 flops dramatically.
0.5 floppatpbp
>log in to D4 at 710>no lag at all, complete all inventory tetris in standard and ready to play league>make character at 730 when league goes up>kicked out of game>can't get back in>45 minutes later there's now a NINETY MINUTE QUEUE despite the fact that there was 0 queue and everything was fine at 710Blizzard unironically put everyone in a fraudulent cuck chair to make it seem like the game is popular....
D4 won so bigly that there is a 120 minute queue time
Please give me any kind of brainless fast mechanic that I can spam while I rush maps for more face time with by boo Atziricheeks
comparison is the thief of joy
i look away for a bit and you went through a whole threadwhat i miss
low iq general on diablo days
Temu LilithI actually think shes way hotter
>>565021887sin is the thief of virtue
>every single big streamer bypassed queue>everyone else can't even log in todayNice game retards.>>565021984D4 bad.
>>565021845how the fuck do we still not have ripped poo2 models
>>565021984More shitposting but GGG did release a new trailer that doesn't say much as usual.
>>565021984I don't know, I was busy trying to install a new MOBO that ended up having bent socket pins. I don't think it's my fault since I'm currently using the same core in another MOBO but maybe it is. I'm probably going to get fucked on the RMA.
The Bungulator
>>565021718apparently lots of people have 120 minute queues.
I CLOOOOOOOSE MYYYYY EYEEEEEEESONLY FOR A MOMENT, AND THE MOMENT'S GONE
>>565021984>New PoE II Teaserhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leKD92i_KYs
>>565022330How does a timed queue even make sense?
>>565021845the difference in writing quality between poe2 and d4 is fucking shocking lol. the worst part is how fucking over-extended all the NPC prattle in D4 is... but it's also really bland and bad.
>>565022395>pickhammerso we delving
Two seperate campaigns, one shared endgame.
>>565022128in 3 hours there will be like 10 videos correctly predicting the league mechanic based on hints from the video tho won't there? It always happens.
>>565022395
>>565022801This was from today, obviously there is just some journo leaking again.
>>565021887Blizzard is the thief of other people's time and money, but not mine
>>565022451I think it implies they're trying to switch on more servers to handle the load. note that twitch isn't over 200k viewers despite no one being able to play so they must have seriously cheaped out to lowballed it too much.
anyone actually going to exilecon? I tried to buy a ticket but it sold out instantly. I genuinely believe it is just for faggot streamers and there weren't actually tickets.
>>565023870I considered it but ngl I'm staying away. They banned the TFT guy and I think he might unironically shoot it up
>>565023870No, but I would recommend visiting New ZealandGorgeous country and Weta Workshop's tour is cool as fuck.
>>565023870PoE in general is way more popular after PoE 2, so its not surprising it sold out instantly.I really do hope they revealing the release for Nov/Dec.Gonna be fucking grim if they're like JULY 2027!!! (Pending more delays)
PoE 2 needs a character creator.
>>5650243841.0 will release after ExileCon because 1.0 just means the campaign is done.
>>565022473well yeah, D4 writers are mostly blue-haired trannies, while GGG writers are regular humans with wives and children
>Olroth logbook is 16dwhat the fucking fuck, I just want some challenges
sad to be a poe enjoyer around genuine retards with d4 living their heads rent free.
>>565024972No, it really doesn't.
>>565024972unfortunatelly this character creator is really barebones. No one still did it better than Lost Ark. SadlyAlso Vision-boy will never let you. They literally using the same model of Sorceress for Witch just with diffirent hairstyle
>>565025538that's like one map
>>565024972i actually like poe with its set characters
>>565026517I've always preferred set characters over a character creator.
>>565024972>>565026517I would enjoy it if you had hair and beard options. Nothing more, just the same character differently styledI like when games do that, it's way too rare
>>565024972>>565024972>adds character creator>top down view>helmet is always on>screen is full of projectiles or explosionwhat's the point
>>565022395looks cringe desu
>>565025538just buy regular ones and open them and bounce if he isn't there, shouldn't take long, bosses aren't exactly rare
Really wish the poe2 league was now instead of in a monthIm bored of poe1
>>565029067I'm going to do a practice run.
did everyone leave for d4?
>>565028667I want Olroth specifically, does any logbook work?
>>565030710>Olroth, Origin of the Fall is a boss that can only appear inside Expedition Logbook areas with zone level 81+ marked with Knights of the Sun.
Can anyone sell me an accel belt for 110d ? I'd really appreciate that, char name is RustyJoey
>>565031151ty fren, time to spam
>died to DevourerGood thing I decided to practice.
I skipped 0.4, is the temple shit easy to figure out or do I have to follow some autist
>>565033147Just make sure you set it up correctly the first time or it'll take 150 mandatory in game hours to fix! It only prints 25x more currency than every other activity in the game so no pressure.
>>565033147I wouldn't bother learning it atm, will prob be getting major changes.It was really autistic and broken, killed the league and economy so there is no chance its staying the same.
I just want more melee shit for 0.5 is that too much to ask for last few updates have all been rangedcuckery I'm so tired
>>565033147>>565034763GGG is going to nerf the fuck out of it and rework it so i wouldnt follow anything from this current league going into 0.5
>>565035390wyvern, wolf, and bear were all melee you tard
if ggg nerfs temple in any way it will kill the game forever.
>>565025981Yes it really does
>>565036205GGG insider here. We're overall pleased with the Temple so we're leaving it untouched for now. We're sure it'll balance itself when players cannot access the temple every single map.
Wait a minute, 0.5 is a month away. I thought it was coming in two weeks due to info drop in a short. What the hell? Didn't they usually release leagues within two weeks after the reveal?
>>565040426>ggg insidershut up mark i dont trust you
>>565023948The kike got banned?
>>565040540Diablo got GGG shook
the only thing got shook was you as a baby
Uh oh tubbaby nervous
Same ass copy pasted mechanic and boss from POE2 lmao
>>565042647poop1 can only steal
New 0.5 trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-UG3642raQ
the only way i can see hope posters being right about how big of a patch 0.5 is supposed to be is if we dont get anything until late december for 1.0
>hire random bitch to be your PR manager>starts tweeting random blog shit, knows nothing about the game>everyone interprets it as duelist>duelist isn't coming out until fucking 2028>everyone immediately hates her and she gets firedkino.
Nobody told me the D4 expansion was today
>>565045214>random blog shitwhat's the age range for their target audience for poe2?
>>565045214You mean everyone hates GGG and will review bomb the game out of existence, with a possible crazed guy pulling a gun at Jonathan on exilecon, shouting: "talamuana, motherfucker!!!".
>>565047251>a possible crazed guy pulling a gun at Jonathan on exilecon, shouting: "talamuana, motherfucker!!!".
should i map, craft, or gamble my next upgrade is 150divs away
Did GGG mention how long the game is going to be on EA?
>>565051192It should be finished within a year from the start of EA ;^)
>>565024972only if they add cute anime girls, would be way more fun killing monsters
swords would be nice
We already have swords in D4
>>565021887>>565022058death is the true climax of perverted lust
>he is a jingakh
I still don't know how to remove the invuln of shaper/uber I just cast skills and hope it disappears
>>565056269your late
>>565047064i told you
>>565024972D4 actually needs to REMOVE its character creator because it breaks lore in the name of gaypozzed DEI inclusivity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOgcmI_8HzQ NEW TEASER DUELIST CONFIRMED
>>565024972I wouldn't be against it, I think mandatory having to play as girls / guys for some classes is inherently pretty gay, but the best thing about D4 is not having to play the campaign over and over, I've only done PoE2's like 3 times but I want to blow my brains out by the middle of act 2
>d4 new expansion>Lilith (the big demon you spent the entire base game killing) is now a good guy>nobody on the good side casts skepticism on her>Tyrael even says "yeah I know, Lilith on our side is a good thing">no hint of doubt, no reluctance>only people who cast doubt on Lilith are practically on Mephisto's side already>trailer opens with Mephisto seeing him being pierced by a sword, showing how much doubt and fear he has of the sword>half way through the expac he just hands the sword to you instead of destroying it>then proceeds to die to it in the endYeah I know I know >story but goddamn this was a travesty. At least the trailer was nice.
>>565061491wrong general lil guptstein
>>565061545Brown poo, black poo, same poo
>>565061491You call it new but swap Mephisto and Lilith names and you have a base D4 story
>>565058557>mfw gfl retired
wife threw away my bing bing wahoos at least i still have my mtx :)
Now that D4 is better than PoE 2, how does Jonathan respond?
>>565062395by transitioning
>>565062395loli Maven
>>565062395100 different stash tabs
D4 status?
It's quiet.. if I catch ANY of you playing Diablo 4 I'm gonna be really really mad you BETTER not be
>>565021360Poop^2 has already won
Why is poo2 doing 6 month leagues now
>>565064871see>>>/v/737802776
>>565065276Remaining GGG vets are all working on PoE 1, while all the brazilian interns are working on PoE 2.
Will they sell a new stash tab if they ever put in a new league mechanic?
>>565066901We still don't have a tattoo tab so I doubt it
Since scientists already mapped out all nerves on the clitoris, will PoE2 have a clit skill tree?
Troonathan lied. Poe died.
Rod won.
Is there a way for me to refund POE 2 if I have like 40 hrs. of playtime, bought the 30 dollar supporter pack, and have spent gold on buying the gazillion stash tabs?
>>565070414lmao no
>>565056614THE HOUR IS LATER THAN YOU THINK, MORTAL
POOP ROTA
>>565061491is tyrael still black
>D4 thread is POPPING OFFJohnatan is shitting himself
>one d4 thread spammed by 10 blizzjeets>meanwhile no diablo generaluh huhvery convincingalmost gought me to boughted
>>565074226D4GODS have no need for a general. Blizzard provides them all the social structures they need.
>D4 adds the ability to tell your minions to focus on a specific enemy>PoE can'treally makes you think....
>>565075115>needing to focus a specific enemybuild bad
>>565075454>NOOOOO YOU HAVE TO LET THE MINION AI BE RETARDED!!!!!!!!!!!!Get back to work, Jonathan.
>>565075454I thought you liked slow and methodic gameplay
>>565075115that's in poe2 retard
>>565073157like always
>>565075683all a minion needs to do is hit enemies, if it can't do that, or if that's not good enough for your build then it is BAD
i bought the ultimate edition....
>>565078025HARD post
>>565056269>You are a nigger How did they get away with blatand racism?
>>565062395New supporter pack!
Heyo bros, i came here looking for advice, i am trying to become better at self-sufficiency so decided to create SSF character and close all content without trade.My build:https://poe.ninja/poe2/profile/kohd_Sayonara-7623/vaalssf/character/MyOtherBearIsPandaMy problems:I die A LOT on maps, and you will say something like "ofc you die a lot, fucking retard, you have 0 chaos res" problem is that during campaign and early maps, i got/rolled only 4 items with chaos res, and they all had either horrible stats that i dont need or rolled horrible numbers. How do i solve chaos res problem in early transition from campaign to maps?Would you kindly look at my tree and perhaps give some advices for this particular build, perhaps there is a node that would make me super tanky close to me, or node that would double my damage. Overall need advice about early passive tree pathing.How do i get good jewels for my build without trade? is it really just >drop ruby>aug it>if you like stats>regal, if you dont like stats>alch
>>565065276only 5 udpates (2 years) to launch!!!!
Is menagerie management in this game fucked? Are you telling me I need to go to each individual holding pen to withdraw beasts one by one when my menagerie is full? Why can't I do this from the menagerie book. Surely I am missing something
>>565079869You can do this from menagerie bookIt is just as tedious because you need to click X over every single beastWhy do you think those beasts cost a lot?
>those stats
>>565080146Ok yeah I see now. What a pain
>>565080146>We cannot make the mechanic better or everyone would do it and it would lose value>value is contrived from doing something others find "too annoying"It's like signing up to be one of those berry boys.
>>565081363>>value is contrived from doing something others find "too annoying"This is literally one of the core designs of PoE.>>565079869You can.Ctrl+Click to skip confirmation.It's still a fucking pain in the ass because you have to delete 90% of red beasts that are useless.I already said this beofre but they should make beasts drop itemized when you kill them, so that you could just item filter them.
sistersim on the verge of getting diablo 4 expac just because i want arpgjonathan please hurry up with 0.5
>>565082249it's like if runescape had a single area where you could only mouse drop things instead of using keyboard.
>>565082350It’s a trap. Diablo 4 will drain you dry and leave disappointed. Pick literally any other ARPG.
>>565082350ive seen the ending of the D4 expansion, i now know what D4 is, its a feminist game, lilith is revered in feminism, mephisto is killed and you are helped by lilith and at the end shes looked at as someone who is a good god im not making this shit up D4 is a feminist game if you know the roots of feminism and liltih being a poster child to them outside diablo but buy it if you want i get it a month is a long time
>>565082350What is supposed to be the new gameplay hook?I'm seeing all this "organic blizzard hype" again.
>>565079428Going Armour and ES instead of just ES will fix a lot of your problems.
is lily off the pil or something she looks puffy
>>565079428>How do i solve chaos res problem in early transition from campaign to maps?That's not a thing. Chaos is only a real problem as you go into higher tiers of maps. It's still easy to start mapping and grab essences to get better stuff.Your life pool just sucks. Life on more gear pieces. Gambling for gear is great early on before crafting. Going all in on Essences and Abyss for craft maxxingArmour applies to Ele is mandatory for that side of the tree. Your hat has some and you got Bastion of Forest. good. should also spend points taking Prism Guard.
As this is the defacto /arpg/ thread, how is the warlock in D4?
>>565083727twink death
>>565083727Botox
>>565084484He is not even a twink, he is straight up ugly
>>565084189Game is better than before, but don't expect anything insane. If you liked D4 before, you'll like it even more now. If you hated D4, you'll still hate it. Has better crafting mechanics with the cube, but more or less still the same game.
>>565084760meh didnt hate it just that it was too fast to finish and builds were nonexistent now they've fleshed out the "trees" but hopefully its not some extra nodes like fortify and shit
>>565084956>not extra nodesAnon i
https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1sxv7gz/9_seasons_and_10k_gone/lol>inb4 leddit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Qo3K3q-wG8even gassed up tv likes d4
>>565083640As in it will increase amount of equipment i check to increase my chances of finding better ways to cap my resists?Or as in ES is op and is much better than hp stacking?>>565083987>That's not a thing. Chaos is only a real problem as you go into higher tiers of maps.I dunno 90% of my death are either to abyss or other green colored shit. pretty sure Chaos damage hurts even in early game.>Armour applies to Ele is mandatory for that side of the tree. Your hat has some and you got Bastion of Forest. good. should also spend points taking Prism Guard.What number should i aim for? because i currently have something like 83%? does it have cap?>Going all in on Essences and Abyss for craft maxxingYeap, thats what i am planning to do.
>>565085006tiresome...
>may 7th reveal trailer>got the week off hell yeah
>>565085989Yeah going hybrid does help a lot in terms of you now have Armour, ES and the hybrid gear as a pool. You're also near good Armour + ES nodes.
>>565021360>some people play this gutter trash instead of diablo 4lmao
>>565087234i just play d4 to pass time until 0.5 the superior game
>>565080195O R G A N I C
>>565086585>OH MY SCIENCE I HAVE THE WEEK OFF SO I CAN WATCH A 2 HOUR LONG STREAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!>SOIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
>soul eaterWhat the fuck were they thinking?
>>565088826>>565088637
>>565085989i tried es/armor on a shaman and its pretty mehpure armor is just superior at all points of progression, all my armor characters have basically felt invincible
Diablo 4 fucking sucks, and that is sadder than it should be. I really wish that it didn't.PoE is a great game, but some of that greatness is due to it being the only game in town, you know?Can you imagine a world where D4 was awesome and so GGG had to step it up?
>>565089363pathetic
>>565083034Who the fuck buys video games because of the story? Faggotry knows no bounds I guess.
>>565089462I remember when D4 trailer looked like it was open world and you could build a base and something
Grim Dawn won btw
>>565085324It seems like he's a deadbeat dad who got no job and plays poe all day while his wife goes to work to feed their children. He deserves all that shit.
>>565089613no
>>565090697>It seems like he's a deadbeat dad who got no job and plays poe all day while his wife goes to workliving the dream
>>565090892Yes
>>565091324maybe
>not a single diablo 4 thread on vthe games dead
Six month leagues
>3 new classes (Templar, Shadow, Gladiator)>4 new weapons (Flails, Swords, Daggers, Traps)>1 new act (Oriath)>Reworked endgamecant wait for May 7 when all doubters and doomers get utterly destroyed.
>>565093026>reworked endgame is still garbage>actual gameplay is still garbage>itemization is still garbageI won.
>>565093026Would be funny if it's only Scion and Whips
>>565093312Scion is Oriana
>>565093026It really is nice that this is an anonymous website so anyone can make retarded claims like this and just move on with their lives.
>>565092039/v/ thirdies are too busy pretending not to be pedophiles after years of spamming cunny
>>565093026I have serious doubts about shadow and axes with marauder are far more likely.
I bought D4.. I played a Warlock to 70 and change. Never been more bored in my entire fucking life. Every single thing you do in the game is just one of 3-4 variants of gameplay. The campaign was meh.. Predictable and very drawn out. I don't know how Blizzard can't just fucking make a proper game anymore.
>>565093875sir, this is /poeg/
>>565094025Nothing else to do in PoE right now. 40/40 in PoE, no news for PoE 2. Also fuck the IQ test captcha.
its kinda funny that Diablo 4 is such a nonfactor that people were like "wait 3 weeks before reveal and release? It must be a big update!!!" and not that GGG is simply avoiding the new Diablo 4 xpac release period where a large amount of people will probably want to play the new season as well
jesus christ d4s dodge feels so SHITi love poe2s dodge roll so much and wasdchisrst
>dodgeroll and wasdAntithetical to ARPGs.
how can something be ever worth more than 1 mirror? just mirror it then lol?
>jumpantithetical to FPS
New MechanicRiposteIf you perfectly frame parried incoming attack (1-4 frames) your attacks will deal 200% damage in next 0.5 seconds. growing to whooping 250% if you have frenzy charge to consume
>>565094803you copin lil guppy
whenever people talk about how many hoops you need to jump through to do damage in poe 2, it just reminds me that everyone in this sub is incredibly bad because the top 10 meta builds in poe 2 basically explode the entire screen in half a second
Zoom-zoom
I was promised generator-spender. But i just started playing as bear, and all i can do is generate Endurance charges, cant even spend them.
Serious question to everyone here.What did you actually expected from poe2? Just poe1 with better graphics? Do you need fancy graphics if you zoom-zoom through map in 2 seconds?
>>565095205What if the craft costs more than a mirror, and involves mirroring the item, smartass?
>>565095738if poe1ggers had their way, the entire game would be ms paint graphics with damage number pop ups that count up to 1 trillion damage and just constant light beams and tinks being played every 0.01sWhat they want to play is Diablo 4, but they don't want to be known as a casual so they play Path of Exile
>>565095974Kino, that sounds infinitely more fun than what we got. PoE2 is an affront to game design itself.
Imagine the shrine belts come to PoE2.
>>565095974>if poe1ggers had their way, the entire game would be ms paint graphics with damage number pop ups that count up to 1 trillion damage and just constant light beams and tinks being played every 0.01sthis is not really Diablo 4, it's chinkslop like Torchlight Infinite.
>>565094803I can believe they postponed the announcement because of Diablo 4. But not because they’re afraid, but because they want to fill the void it will leave. You can argue about the quality of the game but it's certainly not built to last. It simply doesn’t have that replayability and endgame that even current Poe 2 has. GGG are unrivalled when it comes to creating addictive mechanics.>>565095738A good game. I don’t give a shit which direction it takes, as long as it’s good. But I don’t think it’ll ever just be Poe 1 with updated graphics. At its core, Poe 2 is slower and more weighty.
>>565095738serious answer, almost exactly what they gave us right now. I want it to be even slower, where gameplay actually matters and builds legitimately feel different and not just different flavors of teleporting all over the map and seeing what color of skill deletes the screen.
>>565095969How the fuck do you even craft these?
you can not tell me d4s gameplay is engaging AT ALL the dodge is super shitthe skills have 0 weight to them
>>565096089When you post hysterical nonsense like this you just look like a gay retard btw
>>565095738PoE 1 with better graphics and a new campaign. Nothing more, nothing less. I am still pissed about how slow the game is and I will never forgive GGG for making Sanctum and Ultimatum the required Ascendancy completion.
>>565095738Just poe1.Casual game which has MTXs would not workPeople will leave before buying anything
>>565096824Sorry meant to quote this >>565093026
It's going to be fun when Ben actually tries to compete in an endgame bossing event and gets blown out by the current PoE 2 speedrunners
>>565097047Crawl back to /d4g/, you fat faggot
>>565096759>roll one of the mods>beastlock and exalt slam until you hit the other >or alternatively buy a base for ~90div>craft on max frenzy (or another mod that doesn't hurt if it goes negative)>then you lock and mirror it until you have 2x +4It's not hard, just expensive as fuck.
Is Return of the Ancients really just going to be delve...........
>>565097695I hope.
>>565097695Delve but now it's combined with another league mechanic, total novel ideas here guys.
>>565097895nuAbyss and nuTemple are goated though
>>565097895And it's good. Now if only Ritual would get the same treatment.
I hope we get heist in 0.5
>>565095738The original true evolution and sequel to Diablo 2, and they are on track to do so. The campaign is 1:1 in terms of aesthetics with the acts, kino boss fights that will only get more mechanical, great combat which again will only get better, poe1 into poe2 in terms of innovation which again will take timein a nutshell indue time D2 but POE
I bit the bullet, I'm playing the mmos I shilled here, starting with neverwinter, I'll play all mmos until poo2 new patch
>>565098065ritualheistyou steal the king of the mist's twigs
>>565097695Delve + expedition
>>565097695they'll never add delve in poe2
>wow, I am a cool lone adventurer fighting against evil monsters>three zombies and an evil necromancer... this might be tough, but I will prevail!>ah, endgame>I DELETE SCREEN AT SPEED OF LIGHT AND THEN I STAND STILL IN FRONT OF BOSS AND USE THE SAME ATTACK TENTHOUSAND TIMESbut why are all ARPGs like this
Faustusbros...........
>>565098773The peak of ARPG gameplay is unironically the first few months after D3 Reaper of Souls. D3 was shit because of itemization, not because of the gameplay, which is the only reason anyone even played the game.
>>565098065blightheistyou build towers to slow down enemy thieves as you race them for the target
>>565098918i remember thatmonk was sick
>>565098918>the first few months after D3 Reaper of Soulswhat happened after those first few months that made it not peak anymore?
>>565097695it could be anything reallyanimals: bestiaryanimals: harvestanimals: blightcould be mixed however legiondelvesynthesisare the ones people are pointing toalsoarakalli and kalandra? they could be the ancients could it be some mechanic there? also the league mechanic has to be from poe1
Poo2 needs set items
>>565098916>bro got replaced with a rancid fishmouthed hagthe most off-putting thing about her is her pleasant voice. you'd expect a face like this to screech about fascism and women in gaming.
>>565099519TRVKE
>Beastblight>Both Cassia and Einhar are there yelling at you as Beasts appear in lanes
>>565099286grifts being the only thing to do and new itemization was just like 1000000% damage to this one skill so every build was "group monsters, use the new busted skill, move on"
>poe>bow is strongest zoomer>d4>bow is absolute f tier zdps bottom of the barrel
>>565099519>Set: The VISION>2 parts: Your skill gems can only be supported by gems that do not directly increase damage>3: Support gems are 100% more efficient>4: Your can slot in 10 additional skill gems>5: Using a skill empowers one of your other skills at random>6: One additional skill is cast at random whenever you use a skill
>>565099572You realize not all women are pretty, right?
>>565098918D3 nostalgia is the most pathetic thing about these threads, pootards really showing their hand here
>>565100537Ugly women are woke anon, clearly.
>>565100537and not all men are rapists, so what?
>>565098916we used to talk to alva in our hideout all day now its this beast, who the fuck allowed this happen?
>>565100608ugly women are ugly
>>565100537>>565100651False.
D4 legitimately looks so goofy and it has nothing to do with the gameplay, I don't know how to describe it. It's like a really high budget version of a korean mobile game or something. Everything just exists on top of each other, nothing meshes well together. The Warlock demon animations just play one after another, there is no sense of flow. The mount just spawns in and spawns out of the ether, slowly fading away when you talk to a NPC. Even in World of Warcraft it felt more involved because of the casting animation.
>>565100859based rapist
>>565100912it feels goofyits not fun to dodgethe bosses animations are shitcollision is shitthe ui is DOGshitits insane how this piece of garbage is still being played
>>565100912I have not watched any blizzard related content since they openly fucked all diablo fans with 3, so I would know how dogshit their latest dogshit product looks, and I think that everyone who gives that company still attention is a low IQ gorrilla nig
>>565089568Notice how you didnt say i was wrong
>Dec 6, 2024>0.5heh
>>565080195gallon of pcp is great
I’ll just go and play some Doom and maybe Minecraft while I wait for 0.5No need to wear myself out with other ARPGs while I wait for the goat
>>565101395blame valve, they said games would only stay 1 year in early access some time ago but then they backpedalled on that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqb4pk3bkbsim starting to think this is act 5 when we make the spear and that bright light happens and everything starts shaking at the end of act 4. the only time GGG has made these big trailer looking things is for story
>>565101854The players are the ones eating it up.
>>565101854I was wondering about that. Mighty convenient that got changed.
>>565101739>the goatnew poe1 season soon!?
>>565101739if you like old school doom check out a game called citadel and beyond citadel
>>565102551I know about them, but I never find the time to play them. I still haven’t finished Hedon too
>>565083727
>>565101739I've played through Vampire Crawlers recently and it was fun. Somehow decidedly less secret laden for a DRPG though. Does get kind of boring later on but maybe that's just me playing 20 hours in 3 days.
>>565102990can't stand card games, slay of the spire was so boring I've no idea how it got so hugeplay ballxpit and it's great btw
>>565101854if Valve didn't understand monetization they wouldn't be Valve.
>>565102839Why would anyone make AI slop with DS_Larry?
>>565101950its absolutely going to be a new act
>>565083727>>565058557holy wall
>massive delve fortress emerging>retarded mongoloids wondering which is the new league contentI can't with you guys anymore, I just can't
>>565104004to get (you)s
>>565102839lily would never do this>>565088826tri would never say this>>565093026ggg won't deliver half of this
FIRST HERALDDEAL WITH THEM
>>565102839i think lily might be preggo
>>565100537>call woman ugly>umm not all women can be prettyShe's still ugly what's your point
For all the faults poe2 has its system now compared to d4 seem so much more intuitive and yes i feel crazy for saying that out loud lmao
>>565095738PoE1 with better graphics, new campaign and reworked league mechanics.
>>565021360Holy shit another teaser droppedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-UG3642raQ
>>565099519>set itemsThat will be the day when its truly over.
will the game still be pay to play? they need to release 0.5 with a big sale or something because otherwise I'm not going to buy it as I am not an idiot that pays to beta test stuff
>>565107218That's the reason why they're dragging their feet for the full release since it's supposed to be F2P on 1.0. I won't put it past them to back out of that promise though.
>>565107585I feel like that's one of the things they would actually get crucified for if they reneged on. Splitting the campaigns is whatever, it's a design choice and people never had it in the first place so losing that doesn't really matter. Going back on their word about f2p would actually get bombs sent to GGG hq.
>>565107585Dont be so melodramatic, nobody is buying the game anymore. Anyone who wanted it, already bought it.I had to literally piss away my last key I got from supporter packs because nobody wanted it /here/ or in my fren group.
>>565108124looking at the twitch chat for any poe 2 patch reveal shows this is obviously wrong. 60% of chat is just asking if its out yet
>>565104704ah yes the famous vertical above-ground fortresses of Delve League
doomrs are not ready for f2p poe 2
>>565108124if those keys don't come with points to buy stash tab they are literally valueless.
>>565108801The F2P are not ready for PoE2. It'd be a MH Wilds moment where third world retards think they'll be able to play the game only to be unable to run it at all.
>>565107218>waah I need the game FREE>>565108969>ACKSHUALLY, I WANT MY TABS TOOYes, I remember this mental illness when I wanted to give keys away like half a year ago.To this day I dont understand this mental gymnastic tho.
I would take a key if you guys have any, I already own all the tabs from teh first game so I dont need points, I only play the first 3 free days of the league, I dont like the new gem system
>>565109027PoE2 runs extremely well DOE
sprint is when I realized PoE 2 was going to be great. A legitimately great way at fixing a major problem (low MS and down time between packs) while still keeping to the general philosophy of combat. Now they just need to delete all other movement glitches.
>>565109458Works on your machine.
>>565109027I am not concerned with the plight of third worlders
remember when retards itt said the free weekend would break launch numbers lol
>>565109613nta but my pc is straight ass, and after the dogshit first weekend of 0.3 they fixed the texture streaming for low-end PCs and the whole game is completely playable. at least until I try to use a skill with lots of particle effects at which point I get 20fps.
>>565110021blizzard aren't run by retards. the way to get really big numbers is and always will be to spend lots of money on a marketing campaign. sure everyone may leave your game in a week but you'll get BIG NUMBER, just like the big damage numbers flying around because you made your new class OP on purpose.
>>565110021>remembering false flag postslet me guess, you really think people in this general think 0.5 will have 3 new classes too
>>565110365>people in this general thinklol, lmaoNice one Anon-san!
>>565110365>you really think people in this general think 0.5 will have 3 new classes tooYeah people say that PoE2 is a good game here as well.
yep it's seething time
already quit neverwinter, honestly old mmos are crap, I'll wait for SWTOR directx12 update and give it a try, I played it when it came out 15 years ago and at least I know it's funthe gameplay of pressing 9 different buttons in a tight sequence is pure torture, I have no idea how people enjoy it for years and years, that's why I'll play aion 2 when it comes out because I know it has auto farm as it is a mobile game too, they had it in throne and liberty but removed because neckbeard incels didn't like "casualization" and now the game is dead, I'd play it right now if it had it
>>565111212Who asked?
>>565111380there's no content in poe until poo2's new league
>>565110750actually it's mostly "poop of exile" bot posts here.
>>565111212>NWNI played it for a bit a while back and I got filtered by dungeons needing multiple people to run. Never liked that shit.
D4 looks so fucking bad lmao
and who asked
>>565111820maybe the item and endgame systems have improved but you can't fix zero-friction gameplay.
>>565111212Mmos are dead, i stopped hoping for a new good one.
>>565111875uh oh dilator melty
RELEASE DUELIST NOW
>>565112797john cazale lookin mfer
>>565111820this but PooP of Excrement 2
>>565111212>, I'll wait for SWTOR directx12 update and give it a try, I played it when it came out 15 years ago and at least I know it's funBrother in christ 15 years is a long timeThe game is very fun and dx12 might just elevate it also new 8.0 expansion end of the year so the game ain't dead
Omega giga trvke nvkeDiablo 1 wonDiablo 2 wonDiablo 2 Resurrected lostDiablo 3 wonDiablo 4 lostLast AIPochTorchlight 1 wonTorchlight 2 lostTorchlight 3 lostTorchlight Infinite lost BIGLYChampions of Norrath wonLost Ark lostGrim Dawn wonTitan Quest wonTitan Quest 2 lost BIGLYPath of Exile wonPath of Exile 2 lostFATE won
>>565113607
>>565113607>>565113383>>565110750samefagging d4g tourist
>>565113746Samefagging requires you to reply to yourself btw, in case you didn't know you tourist.
>>565111212literally what is the appeal of any of this garbage
>>565113963same appeal of gacha games, long term progression but without the gacha cancer and with a bonus of doing stuff with a group, pvp or dungeons
>>565114157Gacha games are way more meaningful than gay ass MMOsit's not 2005 anymore, boomer.
they're not, you're just stockholm'd by weebshit
omg lmao Lilith is the good guy and Tyrael is the bad guy aint no way
>>565113607No record of lodoss war?Darkstone?Come on man
>>565113607>Diablo 2 Resurrected lost>Path of Exile 2 losti love both of these games
>>565114948Then you are lost.
Waooooow i cant wait until ggg releases burly strong guy and sword so that i could swing sword with this burly strong guy in this fantasy rpg with dragons, demons, lightning spells, armageddons, poison pools.
>>565114340>>565083034i tried to warn you all>>565114536there is a lodoss war symphony of the night game its actually quite kino >>565115052im the one who is leading the sheep
>>565113607Sacred?
it would make more sense to release Marooder next, then each pure stat start would have 2 classes and each hybrid start would have 1.
>>565115071this but unironically
>>565113607>Last AIPochwhat about it?
>>565115425Need I say more?
>>565108801>f2p hits>big initial audience then the casual masses complain about muh difficulty, muh loot.>population tanks and gets reviewbombedScreenshit this
>>565115681>don't worry guys it gets better at endgame>umm you only played for 50 hours, you haven't seen the best (of this league)
>>565114331>stockholm’d by my precious studentsIll take it
>>565115681casuals don't generally reviewbomb things. the webpages interfaces usually aren't designed for phones.
>>565113607TRUTH MOAB
>>565115681>review bombgenerally doesn't matter, some of the most popular games on steam right now have mixed reception
the thing thats gotten the most stale to me in poe2 is trans -> aug -> essence -> desecrate -> corrupt, its how you do every non-unique slot on every character. Is it even possible to change this or is this just how gear in the game will always work?
you stupid faggot limey cunt
>>565117154don't forget your omens bwo...
>>565117154This will naturally change as we get more crafting tools
>>565117154You guys would've killed yourselves back in the old days. We didn't even have crafting benches at first. No essences, no fossils, no harvest. Corrupts didn't exist. We just rolled chaos and exalts like real men.
Judging by how GGG creates new leagues, heist is going to be straight up commandos game, with all your thieves having different abilities and you will have to evade patrols and shit
>>565117154crafting is one of the easiest things to make imba so relatively few methods for now is just the way it goes. also you left out fracturing which makes perfect essencing and chaos spam with omens much more viable.
>>565117530desu. in a way that would be better because forcing ulaman suffixes on jewelry for lightning + chaos resist over and over is pretty cringe.
>>565115052this goes hard
>>565083034this was obvious on day 1 when lilith made a woman eat her own baby in a church
poe2 crafting be like>pull lever on slot machine>get a new white base
>>565118661Is there a middle ground between >pull lever on slot machine>get a new white baseand>pull lever on slot machine>pull lever on slot machine>pull lever on slot machine>pull lever on slot machine>pull lever on slot machine
>>565118085>chaos resistYou just reminded me that we didn't have that either back then lmao, you maybe had a bit from uniques and that's it. Anyone who played poe1 back at 1.0 or in beta knows that the crafting in poe2 is already miles ahead of what we had back then. No shit they're not going to immediately catch up on over a decade of systems. Newbies are honestly spoiled as fuck, you don't even have to do anything to sustain maps nowadays. Finding a cartographer's strongbox was the highlight of your day, you went back to town and grabbed currency to chaos and vaal them. Now you probably don't even bother opening them.
>have over a decade of experience to draw on>have over a decade of mistakes to learn from>repeat the same mistakesit's like pottery...
>>565113607REALITV COLLAPSE SVPREMIS
>>565118926The fact that you get to try multiple times and not lose that one chance is a massive difference.
>>565118926Crafting potential from LE solves the problem.You can keep trying until you run out, but you still have to get a new item every now and then instead of just bricking an item on some coinflip and being forced to buy a new white base
>>565119140Nearly all the founding devs are gone, it's basically a new company.
>>565117530Back in my days we had to play games naked in the snow and the controllers were covered with spikes.
>>565119902da fuck is that in the tree?
>>565119923This, I had to climb a mountain and swim trough a river to play in the snow at my friends house.Yet I did it every day.
>>565119923The difference is that I'm not exaggerating at all, that was literally just what the game had. Eternal orbs were basically as good as it got, you could imprint and that was it. No fractures, no annuls, no beastcrafting. No tainted shit to fix your corrupts. No corrupts at all actually, vaal orbs got added in like 1.1 or something.
>>565117154along with only needing +level and other usable stats, this is going to be one of those things that Reddit will flip flop on as it gets more complex. I can predict with 110% accuracy that a couple of leagues from now, the most common critique will be that crafting is too complex and only favors the top 1% of players againRemember when everyone praised Last Epoch's crafting to high heavens and then realized progression in that game is meaningless other than getting 3LP uniques
>>565113573I played the main quest on lots of characters way back then, there's an account wide buff from doing so, it was pretty fun and the combat wasn't so terrible for a wow-clone, hopefully they can add raids and fun stuff with dx12 update and 64bit, it would make it a very solid mmo
>>565120952>Remember when everyone praised Last Epoch's crafting to high heavens and then realized progression in that game is meaningless other than getting 3LP uniquesThey didn't praise it only for the endgame. It's a good system and works all the way through the campaign and beyond. You just have a poe brain and think if you don't have a five flask MB and 1 passive voices all over then you aren't really playing the game. LE crafting works still at 200 hours into a character, same with poe's method
>>565120952>crafting is too complexhis is a good thing btw, how else would I scam retards following e-celeb builds?
You ready to generate some frenzy on shadow and spend them on backstab to deal not dogshit damage?
>>565121526yeah LE's crafting works 200 hours in when you're trying to go from 99.8% power capped to 99.9% after having reached 99% of your player power 10 hours into playing the game
>>565121706WoW rogue bros... we are so back...
>>565119731just the same thing but with cope built in. in a game with an economy the overall chance has to be the same so more chances just means more clicking.
>>565121281Playing it atm and its very fun for a single player mmolite sw game
>>565121979It puts a finite limit to how many times an item can be used, thus incentivizing people to plan crafts more intelligently while not having to stack negative rarity gear to just get some bases to work with.You can't endlessly scour, but you're also not sent into the cuck mines to farm white gear.LITERALLY the best of both worlds.
Saw a guy wearing an Atlas of Worlds shirt the other day
>>565122415>stack negative rarity gearthis is probably what ggg meant when they talked about the rarity system currently not doing what they wanted lmao. but I remember that people were previously complaining about rarity being mandatory - you fix that by making too much rarity have a trade-off. the intent of the system was probably for players to fit a reasonable amount but not too much, shame moderation is the one thing you can never rely on arpg players for.
>>565119902poo of theseus
>>565123128Rarity as a stat should only exist on unique itemsChange my mind (you can't)
Can anyone explain why cant i use this jawbone (max level of item - 64) on this lvl 64 Scepter?
>>565122415you miss the point. LE just divides what would be one roll into a lot of smaller rolls. if poe2 did that then the chance of each roll hitting what you wanted would have to be reduced to balance it and oh look we're back at the same situation again oh dear.
>>565123128theyre so weird about it. they refuse to just come out and say what their intention behind rarity is they just complain over and over that players are understanding it and using it wrong. its incredibly irritating and unproductive. if rarity is supposed to have diminishing returns after 100 just hard cap it and display that in the UI this is so incredibly easy to solve.i say this as someone who has no problem with rarity in poe2 as a concept because the game has so little suffix/prefix pressure and its a way to add some without making actual gameplay painful to play for have-nots. but the way they discuss it publicly is so useless and obnoxious.
>>565123920if only they had a game they could look at where the rarity gear issue was already solved....
they should just remove rarity, monster effectiveness solves the issue
>>565124058its fine if they want to change it, but how can you have a stat called item rarity and then just refuse to disclose what that actually means, when the entire game is about optimizing your stats? it makes no sense.
>youtube video about groundloot>starts talking about how d1 didn't have crafting>thats why rare items were so good>even if one had 2 affixes you needed you still used iti've never seen anyone be this touristybrother played tchernobog or something and thinks it is diablo 1>ground loot is bad in poe2 because it is so rare to get good tiers/affixies>this is because crafting is strongcompletely orthogonal and yet he thinks it is causalground loot sucks because there are 18 tiers of affixes and tons of junk affixes (with high weights) and crafting lets you skip half of thatthere is no reason a t16 map should be dropping items with t11 ipd, thorns and light radius
>>565121732k
>>565125310ngl ground loot in poe 2 isn't even that bad, I regularly sell rings I pick up off the ground for several divines
>>565125310ground loot didnt even suck until they added perfect trans, perfect aug, perfect exalt, good essences at which point it started sucking for very obvious reasons.
>>565125310>there is no reason a t16 map should be dropping items with t11 ipd, thorns and light radiusGGG is afraid that (You)ll stop playing the game if it becomes too """"easy"""". It absolutely doesn't make sense until you reconsider that upping the tiers make loot possibly good sometimes.
>>565126537upping the tiers has never resulted in a good piece of loot being dropped
it's simply a coincidence that all the ARPGs that people think are bad make it incredibly easy to become powerful and well geared and the one ARPG that doesn't make it super easy is the one people actually play
>>565127185Post ruthless/Kalandra numbers vs. I dunno Harvest.
>This game is so good because getting good gear is so hardSaid by no one ever btw.
>>565127267dont really care about comparing poe 1 to poe 1, especially since it still had regularly hit all time highs until PoE 2 came out. I'm comparing poe 1 to other games.
>>565127513Why won't you compare it with itself when that one aspect that gets brought to question is the only difference?
>>565127465>This game is so bad because getting good gear is so easythis is literally a complaint for most of PoE 1's competitors
>>565127185>ARPGs that people think are bad make it incredibly easy to become powerfulbut people like poe1
>>565127465I said that just now to myself and then laughed at youAlso, you literally DO get god tier loot from the ground. They're called memory strands. "Ground loot is bad" hasn't been a legitimate complaint in years.It's a shame, since we've essentially ended up in the same situation the harvest nerfs way back in the day we're trying to avoid, where only literally perfect items are valuable. Hell, I'm going to go buy 10x necrotic armours for with strands right now for 10c or whatever they're worth, and I guarantee one of them is going to be some 6x t1/2 monstrosity
>>565127682Such as? D3 and D4? The itemisation itself is an abomination. LE? Did anyone actually complain about the crafting?
Popping over to the LE subreddit and finding out that they are praising PoE's "vision" unironically
holy fuck the d4 expansion is so gay and boring holy FUCK THIS is what /poeg/ has been slurping?
>>565127957>memory strand>a mechanic that's only been added since last year>ground loot hasn't been an issue for yearsCome on now.
>>565128261>can you give me examples>Here read this other shit made by another person, no I'm not going to tell you why it's good, just read it and have the "correct" opinionPeak reddit. Visionfagging in 2026 is funny as well.
>>565123920>they refuse to just come out and say what their intentionthey shouldn't do this the playerbase will not react well to being reasoned with beyond the "problem: solution" level. >if rarity is supposed to have diminishing returns after 100 just hard cap it and display that in the UIyou'd get players chimping out because they only have 99 rarity, claiming getting 100 rarity on certain builds is too easy, blah blah. GGG have rightly pointed out that if you sac defenses to add rarity and die more, the stat is balanced, just like if you sac damage to add rarity and kill monsters slower. what they clearly want to do is make the algorithm reflect that, but they also can't have Latest Broken Build printing divs because they fit 6000% rarity while being just unkillable enough to finish 6 mod maps. so they need to do the diminishing returns thing but be coy about it.anyway the solution is to play SSF.
I still respect that Fromsoft refuses to tell players anything about how their systems work, making them test shit out themselves
>>565128687rarity as a stat is required even more in SSF though?
>>565093026It's the opposite of all of this.0.5.0 has no new act, character weapons and only the endgame is reworked.People are gunna shitfling so hard at GGG over this. I can feel the backlash brewing.
>>565128998Shut up Jonathan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GN5OSAeNxkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GN5OSAeNxkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GN5OSAeNxkIT'S UP
>>565124526>refuse to disclose what that actually meansit increases the chance of each tier of drops by that amount, but doesn't affect the weighting of individual items within that tier. the diminishing return is the only mysterious thing about it. just how ritual rewards are divided into cost tiers, so are drops, and the legendary tiers are lower chance. so all 100% rarity does is halve the time it'll take for X thing to drop. everything else is just player perception, largely shaped by the fact that a LOT of people only care about divs/hour, even though divs aren't even the highest tier of drop.
>>565128687Genuinely, how does SSF solve this? You literally still have the same problem but with no trade to bail you out. Do you think that people just rarity farm to sell stuff?
>>565129204schizo headcanon
>>565129348earnestly who the fuck watches this guy
I'm 100% sure that if skill effect MTX were like $2.50 I would buy it for every other skill I use. But 15 bucks for 1? Fuck off.
>>565125310>there is no reason a t16 map should be dropping items with t11 ipd, thorns and light radiuspicking up an item and id'ing it is literally a microgambling interaction. you anticipate what rolled on the item and then seethe when its thorns, light radius etc. the fact that you came here to complain about it off-season proves how powerful it is.
>>565129420Optional challenge mode ;)
>>565129657Free game no complaining
>>565117154It's funny how poe2 was supposed to simplify things but they made the most obtuse, annoying fucking slog of a currency/crafting system
>>565128998Fromsoft need to be emulated more properly.They don't interact with their playerbase at all, what so ever. They drop their games with minimal marketing and let players figure everything out. I just wish Fromsoft would stop releasing on PC so things can stop being datamined, now whenever one of their games releases faggots already have images showing the final boss and items before anyones even played it. It's fucking gay. They need to go back to only releasing on PC after like 6 months.Elden Ring hasn't had content update since 2024 and won't be getting anymore ever again and it's still got a daily solid lowest playercount of like 20k players. It's stable as fuck and that's just on PC, most of the playerbase is on console. Jonatron was right to try and get into the souls audience, but he fucked it up by releasing a game with no character creator, forced niggerman to play melee, game balanced/designed around bows and no fucking swords.You make a fucking game targeting a new audience and you literally shit your pants and wipe it all over your face and don't give that audience anything they would want from the games they usually play. What the fuck were they thinking.
>>565129674I hate this faggot smug face.
>>565129935kill yourself, Jonathan
>>565126175what that really did was make tiered items pointless. a tier 5 rare item is literally no more likely to be good than if you blindly slammed a white base with Perfect Exalts.
>>565130008>>565130000gape victim
>>565123423That is not an item level 64 sceptre. It REQUIRES character level 64.
>>565129752Good goy.
>>565129935>minimal marketinglolreddit ring's marketing campaign was colossal
free weekend again on 0.5?my fren wanna play
>>565130982shut the FUCK up
>12 fucking divs in chromatic orbs to hit this shit
>>565129935>They drop their games with minimal marketingFYI that's becasue marketing campaigns literally cost millions of dollars. the indirect result being that blizzard prefer to spend money hiring Korn than paying to make a good game, as the gamers they're aiming for literally don't respond to gameplay as well as marketing..
>>565131337Wouldn't just buying a ton of blanching solve this for you or did you really need the red sockets. I have no idea bout Necrotics.
https://youtu.be/M70rO7ONQjo?t=454poe called the FUCK out
>>565131398why doesn't fromsoft spend money making their games good if they don't spend it on marketing (they absolute spend hundreds of millions on marketing btw)
>>565131337You just use bench to set 2 sockets, set 2 red, then 3 sockets 2 sockets until it hits red, then 4 sockets 3 sockets until red, then 5 sockets 4 sockets until red, then 6 sockets the blue (easy) and link.
>>565130768Yep, they played up George RR Martin like the game was actually going to have a real story that wasn't just another rehash of previous Souls games.
>>565131497>>565131701Yeah, you're both right. Usually I hit this kind of shit by just going "3 red" in like 1-2 div, but here it just didn't happen and then sunk cost fallacy kicked in.
>>565131812GRRM is more overrated than jojo tbqhwymn
>>565131812ER definitely had more incest and references to shitting though.
>>565129142yeah but you normally have to get it from farming 6 mod maps and not dying, there's no way to target-craft it on viable items without making it harder to roll something else. so the balance is working more as intended: SSF players can't just buy full rarity gear with good enough other mods, and print divs.
>>565131970>but here it just didn't happen and then sunk cost fallacy kicked in.i know that feel
>>565131624you're so fucking funny anon if only all the videogame players agreed with you thoughgo and look at the elden ring playercount vs poe and report backpeople don't actually like these games and only play when new pngs are added to the game to collect
>>565132257so league of legends fortnite and minecraft are the best games ever made?
>>565129420items being worse overall lowers the standard of what you see as a good item. getting my gear to the point where I can sustain 6-mod t15s while dong all the extra content is a whole extra endgame step. also divs aren't even useful in SSF so there is no self-imposed pressure to use them as a fixed metric of how fast you are farming. it becomes more about getting a dopamine hit from the next item upgrade. rarity is something I add as much of as I can without sacrificing that feels more important, not something I feel like I need to have 150% of, it's more fun.
how do people stand watching quin when hes such a fucking retarded cunthas actual brain damage
>>565132873he is reacting badly to having to play D4 despite being fully conscious that it still sucks. his ADHD brain is refusing to stay engaged.
>>565132532They're pretty great games yeah, but you're being retarded equating what I said directly to raw playercount. Elden Ring has had a constant steady playercount since it released and more people seem to genuinely enjoy it than path of exile (which no matter how many content injects they make, the game always starts crashing to sub 10k players which for free games is pretty telling since ER is also paid)
>>565133026he doesn't want to play the game yet he plays it in the most fucking retarded way possible, intentionally going slow and dragging everything outhe should kill himself
>>565132873I'm enjoying watching him fight the cognitive dissonance of having to enjoy d4.
>>565133034what do people do in elden ring after finishing the campaign? never played it.
>>565132873He is a rage baiting asshole no doubt.This D4 gameplay though is the most boring shit I have ever seen
>>565133336he's playing HC, drawing it out is a survival strat.
>>565133463during the endless campaign dialogues I would wonder wtf blizzard were thinking. then the gameplay segments would start and I would realize that they know the gameplay sucks and put the NPC blathering in to distract players from it, to try to get any kind of emotional engagement going.
>>565133391modsnobody's playing unmodded elden ring in big 2026
>>565133725>during the endless campaign dialogues I would wonder wtf blizzard were thinking. >then the gameplay segments would start and I would realize that they know the gameplay sucks and put the NPC blathering in to distract players from it, to try to get any kind of emotional engagement going.Sounds like PoE2's campaign
>>565134098Butthurt d4g tourist
>>565129420one thing GGG are keeping to themselves is how much % rarity rare monsters add in the new system. it's possible that players adding 100+% rarity on gear are routinely going well into the diminishing return once you add rarity from map mods and monster rarity.
>>565134560>DA KAROOEY WAY ANON>DIS IZ DA WEI>DAWWTUHHHH Y U NO KARUI WAY????
>>565133986what kinds of things do the mods do? do they add gameplay or is it just "make women nude" skyrim-type stuff? sorry for the spoonfeed request but my questions are too bitch for google
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7QJj2GnmIE
What did this [ Weissman ] do for POE
>>565133391pvp and coop, the game is literally built around iteveryone saying fromsofts/souls games are single player is fucking retarded. The entire core unique draw of the game is the async multiplayer and the sidegrad item system where rather than a small pool of 'endgame' items existing, every single item in the game is viable in combat and in pvp meaning you run into a player and they have all manner of strange weapon pairings and spells and builds going and you basically fight other players with your friends/hunt down people cooping as an invader
>>565129935>Elden Ring hasn't had content update since 2024 and won't be getting anymore ever again and it's still got a daily solid lowest playercount of like 20k players.what's genshin impact's lowest playercount? shouldn't we learn from them instead?
Bro that was fucking SHIT!It's been so painful watching Quin, but for fucks sake that is some of the worst writing ever
>>565136716but /poeg/ said d4 good
Is it 405 per bolt (so x16), or total? Somehow it does not feel like 6480% damage efficiency, but then it seems to be missing a lot
>>565136585No because there's a point where engaging with playercount too much means you're in full slop territory and you lose the playerbase you want and gain one you don't wantFromsoft makes dark fantasy arpg games just like GGG and they have a level of success GGG could be tapping into as there is some crossover with the playerbase, but GGG completely fucking dropped the ball with PoE2, it made bad soulslike mechanics and took none of the good things people like about froms games. Souls gamers like character creators and feeling like they make their own little roleplays. You get locked in genders/models instead.Souls gamers like finely crafted level design with shortcuts and puzzle aha moments and areas you can't access and then figure your way out there. PoE you just get random gen maze sprawl with no rhyme or reason.Souls gamers like combat where its fast and heavy but not spammy. PoE2 has slower melee than elden ring and feels less powrful, but then also gets more spammy and crap feeling later.Souls gamers like item system that means anything they find is useable or interesting, every weapon is distinct. PoE every item is a stat stick and there is just a best hammer, a best bow etc that make the others invalid.Johnathan should never have catered to souls games if they were going to half ass it and not give them anything they want and instead just ruined the poe formula in poe2. Either do it properly or dont bother
>>565137151Doesn't this have some sort of shotgun scaling or something?
>>565137224>PoE every item is a stat stick and there is just a best hammer, a best bow etc that make the others invalid.
I'm having more fun in D4 than I ever have in Poo2
>>565137927Hey that's great, you should go to /d4g/ then.
>>565137665Did I stutter? The item system progresses linearly so the mace you found in act1 is useless/doesn't exist once you leave act1. This is the opposite of souls games where the base weapon types are a level agnostic thing and can all be taken to the end of the game if you like how they function, but that also means each item is far more distinct because of that, not just more damage, they are different lengths, hitbox shapes, even defensive stats since you can technically block with weaponsthey gave souls fans nothing they like from their games in poe2 and thought they'd hang around and instead just made poe2 sloprollsoulswannabe game
This... is not the Way, /poeg/.
I am still playing Mirage
>>565138640Tesla tanks are better.
>>565138640Just realized I've been afk in hideout for 4 hours yikes.Guess I should go buy some high packsize memory maps.
>>565137927based
>>565138271they game was never touted as a soulslike this is just your retarded headcanon
>>565141984Jonathan is based for marketing it as that and securing funding for a few years from normalfags just to make PoE again.
>>565133391side content, coop, pvp, randomizers, challenge runs, etc.personally I've done like 15 playthroughs with different weapons and setups
>>565136585Yeah, new league every 6 weeks
>>565101950>>565104242its not act 5act 5 takes place in oriath while this is clearly in the endgame you can literally see the burning monolitheither act 5 is going to be a 0.6 thing which i doubt we will get or most likely a 1.0 feature
>>565136585yes unironically
>>565142574what happens at the end of act 4?
>>565142951everyone sails to oriath
act 5 ain't happening lil gupsdue to the short length of act 6, act 5 has to be paired with act 6 (otherwise a new interlude act will need to be made which is dumb) they are saving act 5+6 for 1.0, putting it in the game any earlier risks weakening the 1.0 launch
what am i suppose to look when rolling for t17 maps? just more currency and div cards?
>>565143120https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6TwELnlfQ0no thats not what happens they amass a army of all the people of wraeclast for a siege >siege meaningA siege is a military or police operation involving the surrounding of a fortified place to force surrender by blocking supplies and conducting sustained attackswhats the cutscene? walls fortifying a region, now i could be wrong but thats what it looks like is happening then you go to oriath after they group up, then whatever happens there you have the Act 6 boss fight at the centre of the burning monolith thing? maybe? it will be interesting to see but thats my theory so far
>>565143691that's placeholder shit you dipact V is oriath proper, you go there immediately to chase after oriana minus the reddit armyalso tavakai dies in the real campaignact VI is chasing after lumerius (THE big bad of POE2) after he absorbs the beast. at some point you recruit innocence to help out. campaign ends with lumeriusbeast getting raped and his death explodes the world, leading to endgame.
why do you retards care about the campaign enough to argue about it
>>565143406Whatever suits your tree, scarabs, character build capability, etc.I just look for more maps since that's all I use them for, printing 8mods.There's also secret dextral/sinistral tech.For example if you want scarabs, theres 5 scarab affixes; afflicitng (60%) volatile (53%) of marking (36%) of miring (35%) and of transience (35%).So the minmax on prefixes with sinistral is 226%, the minmax on suffixes with dextral is 212%.
so why did chris burn out but big j didnt
>>565144346china
>>565144038>beast is going oriath >they are going insland where the big walls come up >new trailer shows exactly thatwe are getting act 5 it just makes sense 1.0 is the next update ggg needs to put out a fuck load of content for this patch
>>565144346BFR couldn't take the heat (see Kalandra)Big J takes the heat and it makes him stronger
>>565136585an arpg with events would be coolsure it would bring a lot of FOMO but fuck the hatersdont add gacha shit and its literally just free extra contentit could be a simple way to add back in dead league mechanics or new half-baked mechanics without lasting repercussions
>>565144459The wall stuff is what happens after you kill Arbiter, it's a continuation (or possibly replacement) of the endgame progression. Act 5 is on ice until 1.0.
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>>565143318>the 1.0 launchfall 2028 btw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6mCneS2aFMthat's a cool featurethanks autistic european man
so poegare you on team fub (buff temple in 0.5)or team tri (nerf temple in 0.5)
>>565145870>none of the rares I'm wearing exist on market
>>565146169i'm on team jon (fill the temple with feces in 0.5)
JONATROON
i think diablo 3 has a nice artstyle and its better than d4's generic realism
cringe
>>565149779I played it a few times and I barely remember most of the areas.
>>565150059this but poe2
>>565149779the d3 art style is fine but the zones are way better. and yeah d4s is soulless
Have we power creeped a tad too much this patch? You can do a build for like 400div and become an absolute god with the stuff available now.
>>565151027>now
>>565151027powercreep has been a problem since synthesis, lil gup
>>565151027>>565151293>>565151350Please stop. They'll nerf summon skeletons again.
Should I buy Valheim while I wait for 0.5?
Logged in to swap my offhand gems over and accidentally crafted this.I wanted to hit mana and % cost on a veiled exalt but the first one deleted t1 life.After that the ring started to refuse to hit t1 life again then filled up, so I hit the annul on energy shield, got spooked and said good enough.>>565151027Games in the best state it's ever been.
>just got jury duty summons starting the week of league launchhopefully I don't get selected for a trial again.
>>565153661I get picked every fucking time. Last time was a god damn murder trial>dress like a slobGet picked>dress like a professionalGet pickedNothing helps, and I must be on some fucking list
>>565154336>>565153661can't you just tell them you don't trust doctors and science or some shit
>>565154336Terminally online so you don't know about the case, it's that shrimple
>>565153661Just say something racist to get let go, shouldn't be hard for you.
>>565153661>got jury duty twice>wouldn't mind serving for the fuck of it>don't even get to go to the selection process both times
>>565151027Stacking is still too cheap but the balance is otherwise pretty good for the content that's available now.People like to talk about how much stronger we are than a few years ago but back then there wasn't a scarab you could pop into the map device that plops the feared into your map
>>565160791>People like to talk about how much stronger we are than a few years ago but back then there wasn't a scarab you could pop into the map device that plops the feared into your mapThis perfectly describes power creep though
Just marathoned D4 to torment 8 and I'm almost done with the season journey. Lilith is...le good and is the only godlike figure in the universe who actually cares about humanity. Heaven actually wants all humans to kill themselves (this is explicitly stated.) Warlock is shittiest shit. Will never touch again after this season. Endgame loop is fine. You basically just do whatever warplan says and hope it doesn't force you to do an infernal horde which actually takes time. Dad gamers are going to absolutely love it since you no longer have to even look at the map to find something to do.D4 won the cazzy market. PoE 1 won the good game market. PoE 2 won the brown RMT market. TLI won the white RMT market. Everyone else functionally lost.
>>565161453Obviously we're power crept but I'm saying the game has done a pretty good job of keeping up with it.Or should we poo2 it and remove the crafting bench plus all the life nodes but double the numbers on grey wind
>>565161864Yeah.There's still ghosted feared void baldos as top tier aspirational content and people fuck those up all the time, visibly.
PoE 1 is in a perfect balance state right now. The "casual game" ends at 2-stone. You take your build thru quest eater and exarch and you're done. Everything after that is just fluff for mazers to wallow in.
>>565162123You don't even have to do uber elder anymore lil gup
>>565161864>Obviously we're power crept but I'm saying the game has done a pretty good job of keeping up with it.I think you misunderstand what power creep means a little bit. Power creep is specifically the phenomenom of player power going up and the game racing up to match it. When people complain about power creep, they're not isolating player power, they're saying they're bothered by how all power levels went up, usually as a consequence of increasing player power too much. That's why the fearer scarab is actually a textbook example of power creep. If the game balance wasn't sort of retarded there'd be no need for that. I don't think any extreme measures are needed but it's definitely apparently in how so much content just gets wafflestomped through the drain by any build that invested like 50 div now
>>565021360Surely it has to be a 5 alarm fire in the bushland NZ right now right? D4 expansion is being very well received, maybe fatty can finally stop releasing content at a snails pace already and get PoE 2 completed already lets go Jon stop eating the cheetos and get your code monkeys back to work.
>have 10 fingers>can only equip 2 rings
>>565163559no one cares about your cringe skinner box
>>565164164if i can only equip 2 rings how do i have 3 equipped right now?
>>565162497>If the game balance wasn't sort of retarded there'd be no need for that.Being able to fight a full invitation every map is pretty based thoughever. The floor for a build is too low right now but the power creep messing with the game balance was a lot worse when the only thing they had to push back against players was T17s
>>565164164I can't remember the game, it's super old, but you have a ton of gear slots just like this and everything adds a %
>>565129564fifty eight thousand and seven hundred people
>>565161635Unironically uninstalled after the first 5 minutes. Had enough shit pop up on my screen for just touching random shit i thought i was playing fucking call of duty, and the combat is fucking atrocious. It literally is just a slightly better graphics mobile game.
with every passing d4 gameplay i see i appreciate jonathans poe2 vision even more
>>565161635What the fuck do you mean the endgame loop is fine? There is no endgame. You get to do the same shit over again so that your number gets bigger, but the way your build plays remains largely unaffected no matter what upgrades you get. The same retarded "cluster mobs then nuke" playstyle is there across all characters.
>>565164164my headcanon is that since these rings are magic, there's some rule that disallows you to wear more than one, like a binding vow or whatever
>>565131337retard, you could just use socket bench craft.
>not buying the d4 expansion locks you out of 90% of the skill treeFucking Kek
>>565145870>now shitters can literally copy items GRIM
>>565164164I can only equip 2 rings because I only have 2 cocks
>>565164164>new ascendancy>you can't equip any piece of gear>but you can equip 10 rings
>>565170779dawn
>warlock is so bad that even the biggest shill, rob from the block, stop playing it and rerolleddamn
>>565170697Based, fuck poorfags. No wonder this brown general hates D4 so much.
>>565170697As it should be. If you're not going to support the game, you don't deserve to play.
>>565170981>100% increased effect of rings on the right hand but modifiers on right on the left hand are reversed>You can now equip rings on your toes but you no longer gain benefits from the passive tree
My friend gifted me D4 and I contacted support go get them to refund it back to my friend.
This general is on permanent meltdown mode due to D4 winning lmao
>>565173549giga based
Friend gifted me poo2 early access so I drove 200 miles to cave his skull in
poe2cels have had a terrible day
>>565173875I've literally been punching the wall and screaming the whole day. I can't fucking believe diablo 4 won, bigly.
>>565173519>new Scion Ascendancy>Hood Rat>can wear 10 amulets
>>565151027I personally dont enjoy dying every map to absolute bullshit so nopower creep is good. the game is actually fun now
NTE turned out to be kino, got a game to play until the 29th 0.5 update, its a shame D4 couldnt do that kek
Insider here0.5 is 200gb but it's going to be a blast
halcy so freaking cute bros....
>>565170697and people talk shit about torchlight infinite being pay 2 win
>tfw no druid treant minions
>>565175960There isnt even a treant shapeshifting form why would we have treant minions
There are people in the v d4 thread argueing that poe2 should stay soulslike lmao
>I will say, Diablo 4 realy does smoke PoE2 for character graphics>The PoE characters look like ps2 tier quality its kinda sad. Also all the cosmetics in poe are horrendously ugly and bad qualitythey actually think this
Funny how as soon as D4 gets mentioned all poo1babs suddenly turn into the biggest PoE 2 defendersReally gets the noggin joggin. Where were you at during 0.2 tho?
KELLYGGG just leaked that there's a new passive tree>>565123423press alt (or ctrl i forgot) to check the item's actual level not required level
>>5651767750.2 was huntress so i was playing poe2
>>565177124Were you defending PoE 2 then tho?
>>565177487defending? if you are being a bitch about poe2 from the jump you are going to be a bitch forever no need to defend it, i will say i like it thats it and call you a bitch
>d4bad has pets picking up loot>chinese version of poe has that tooHELLO???
>>565176624for me, it's being too scared to make anonymous posts in another thread so i reply here in my tencent circlejerk
>>565177926you live in china?
>>565178080no but i want my pets to pickup loot
>>565178004The baits have gotten worse over the monthsPeople shilling d4 have nothing
It's crazy how I was never one of those anime people, I always liked the company of weebs, but now when I see an anime or chibi image in this thread, I know I'm about to read some retarded dogshit, and therefore seeing anime or gacha or chibi-style characters is starting to annoy the shit out of me.
>>565176624They're right though. PoE2 character models aren't it's strong point, the armour designs and things are nice but compared to D4 everything is definitely more 'blocky' and less kinda depth to it.
After D4 winning this hard if PoE2 rolls around end of may with no new act, characters or items it's going to be a bloodbath.What the fuck has been taking them so long to add the rest of the melee stuff to the game. They have spent like 2 majora's masks amount of dev time since EA and still nothing. The models are there we know they are they're in the game.
>>565178964GGG want to do sword combat and melee right. They were pressured to release early by Tencent, Warrior was literally thrown in, Melee wasn't truly ready yet.They are partnering with the wukong developer with Tencent to completely overhaul and make a brand new combat and hitbox system and the game is going to be massively different/better for melee once it's done. All the improves to bows will look like nothing compared to what's coming for PoE.
>>565175209I dropped it after the first 10 min, is it worth a second try?Game feels absolutely bland and shit...
>>565179419wat
FACE THE WRATHhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGM0VLErkAcOF THE BEE
>>565179531
>>565164164Excuse to post a comic detected
>>565178737animations > models, and poe2 easily looks better as a game overallalso only d2's character models are detailed. the monsters look like shit.
>>565170697blizzard regretting letting people use the $1 two-week battlepass to play a game it take a few hours to get bored of.
>random guy asked who wants some BV gears>no one is responded so i said me>guy just ripped from hc wanting to giveaway his gears to bv players before quitting>never actually played bv and sold his gears to fund a different build instead
>>565181473poe2 has bad animations thoughthey look like basic bitch flash animation teir animation principles, every skill is like a start and end point, there's no flair or quality inbetween, attacks are rigid with barely any movement in them. Having to suffer through the awful default attack animations for 99% of the game is hellI'm not asking for platinum games quality but it'd be nice if GGG could pull their thumb out on this
>>565183206Dude is probably happy as long as you got use out of his gear, even if you sold.I give away my gear too when I finish a league, I just feel happy that someone got a 'uge boost from me.
>>565183674I shit on poo2 all day long but this is just retarded nonsense.
>>565096759chaos spam (or essence of your choosing) until + to all lightning gems or just harvest craft itannulbuy an amulet base with + gemsannul until at least 1 prefix 2 suffix craft added lightning damageharvest exalt a lightning mod (50/50% chance)infl orb itlock prefixes, influence harvest chaos rol that amulet should have 1 infl prefix, +all gems, +lightning, 1 infl suffix unstable Recombinator (82% chance of success)Enjoy your +4 gem focused amuletcraft a worthless suffix for better chances or just hope you'll get 4 positives lmaolockreflectpray enjoy your +8 amulet
>>565183206I am keeping my gear, because I crafted it with my own hands. Buy 1 time some dude gave me DD ignite full gear and I played entire league from 1 to 36/40 it was in Sanctum
>>565178737>PoE2 character models aren't it's strong point>>565183674>poe2 has bad animations thoughthis is your brain on d4
PoE2 looks great, looks are probably the thing it has most going for it. It is crazy how good it looks. I'm not sure what they've done to make everything look great, it all looks real sharp. I assume there's new lighting and maybe they switched to physical based lighting but idk. The animations are ok but it feels like one of those things devs care about more and it underpins broader problems elsewhere
>2 games>1 server
>>565185361
>>565185361>>565185637Now this is what will kill the game.Shit is unplayable in EU.
>>565183806legitimately the melee combat animations in poe2 are the entire problem with the game, they are unfun garbage that they made where you just stand on the spot and barely do anythingEverytime I play as warrior I'm just screaming out to have even half of the feel of playing with the hammers from Nioh. It's just so unfun and rubbery and static feeling.
>>565187485>best leveller is warriorgit gud
>>565187569and it's entirely because you cancel the shitty animations
all i wants is me cutlass
>>565185361>Frankfurt shitting itself for years>every other EU server has huge lagspikes every 30 minutes
>>565188402>he doesnt know about traveling to merica
>>565188467I settled for London, it's the most stable EU realm but still has lagspikes few times per day.
>>565188637go washington
>>565113607That Part
>>565187569You guys have been spouting this cope about warrior for far too long.
Was talking to a friend and we realised, claws are just cut from PoE2?Like no claws at all? How the fuck is that possible. Why would they remove weapon types in a sequel.
>>565196845Where did you get that from? They’re still working on the claws and plan to add them to the game. They’ve just moved them from the Shadow part of the tree to the full DEX section, and many people were expecting them to be released with the Huntress.
Belton won
they just announced that TERA 2 is hiring and in development, we found our future mmo poeg bros
Does adding a little bit of armor make a noticeable difference in survivability for an evasion based character? I'm trying to decide if I want to trade out my evasion gloves with good life stats to a hybrid base that gives a good chunk of armor but worse life rolls
>>565200398armor is dogshit going hybrid armor/eva is more dogshit just stack one type of defense
>>565200398Yes but you have to be mindful of the armour formula. Adding 200 armour isn't doing shit in t16 maps, because monster hits are larger and 200 armour won't meaningfully mitigate them. But if you can add a few thousand, that's not negligible, because a few thousand will do something against three-digit hits.Based on what you described, it sounds like you don't have huge armour overall, so I would opt for more life. But you could make a pivot to a more hybrid char if you can take some increased armour somewhere, and run granite flask+increased armour % suffix, and some mixed eva/armour pieces.Btw, to make armour work better, it's important to add phys taken as chest/helmet implicit, endurance charges, and increased PDR or general damage reduction somewhere. Things like that make armour do more work. Raw armour is much weaker than armour with other layers.
>>565200553>>565200916Thanks bros
>>565196845>Why would they remove weapon types in a sequel.they're still thinking of the downsides to put when using claws
Lmao why the fuck does Diablo 4 gameplay look like WoW? These animations are even worse than Poe 1 https://youtu.be/dsQpmLDne1A?si=JBAoH38q69ECQlPk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leKD92i_KYs
Pd2 won
>>565205738>wants me to have a D2 Remastered key to playI would have tried if not for that.
>>565205738>project AIslop 2nah, I'm thinking they lost BIGLY HUGE
Why is the PoE wiki fucking dying for the past 2 weeks? GGG are the ones hosting it.
>>565208825sir
