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Aplogies for taking so long, everything that could go wrong did go wrong
Continuing the discussion about Golden Route awakened traits, and their category going from 11-13.What TrTr thinks is super powerful, might not be that impressive in the meta game. Uriela has one, if not the best trait out of all the Archangels/Ancestors since she has multiple flat damage bonus. For all we know, he thinks this is an 11, while some crappy trait that belongs to Echidna or the Golden Bub might be a 13 in his eyes.For all we know, he is might not be aware that it's better to have multiple weaker elemental boosters, than one super powerful one.
It's all fine.Have a happy Monster Lord and cheer up.I need new images
This thread is #1063.>biggest slime reina>lulu feet
>>565022710>eat iliasBlack Alice says this
>>565022710>Lucifina mean sister
>>565022710>we had two 1061'shuh, so it is
>>565022710>reina queen!>reina hero!I love Reina!
I didn't bother with using null counters because every boss has way too many types of attacks. Do they even have a pattern? It's all random, right?The combat would be a lot better if everyone had a pattern and an easy way to find out what type of attack they're using.
>>565027491You're supposed to use a null counter for their race or magic and also have Lucifina or another angel use Daystar to take out their Chaos type skill that (currently?) doesn't have a null counter skill. There is no pattern but as long as they don't have counter killer or two chaos skills you can easily shutdown a boss.
>>565027491You don't need to do it for literally every skill they have anon; all you ever need it for is just the most dangerous one, and it's generally pretty easy to tell them apart.You only need to totally lock them down if you're punching above your weight class and really aren't supposed to be fighting them yet.
>>565028074>DaystarTo me that's just a cheat skill
>>565028450>1 element 'magic' skill that will deal no damage if target resists itIf you consider null counters which parry multiple attacks then Daystar isn't all that better besides being carried by Lucifina numbers.
>>565030051https://pastebin.com/zuHTZ5yN
>>565030253https://exhentai.org/g/1591460/c9ad3e2c2a/
Kyuu kyuu!
>>565021462Carroll thread?
>>565036763why didn't she like that?
>>565037351They drew her face slightly weird
>>565037390that is true, they did...........who is carroll, she's from one of those studio62 games right
>>565037741The Wonderland series, yeah.
>>565037838They got it backwards
Wincest editionAlbum of my lewds: https://catbox.moe/c/w5gtyfFriends commissions: https://catbox.moe/c/vo902uThe latest, Neris and Lucifina threesomehttps://files.catbox.moe/kne98s.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/6a0htc.jpgWith cut inhttps://files.catbox.moe/cxdcaj.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/3ska19.png
>>565041403I love Eden!
>>565022710>Luka Girl GameOkay, is it me, or does the "Luka Girl" combo appear a bizarrely common amount?
>>565041629>I love Eden!As we all should!
>>565042314she looks like she gets impregnated by slug girls
>>565042314It's only because you keep talking about Luka you homo
>>565042314>not flat
>>565041403>>565042314>>565043018I miss the comfy vacation from attention whoring.
I saw satan fall like lightning from heaven
>>565050313that was lucifer
>Lovecraft was afraid of this
>>565042314How pathetic you need to be to be raped by thisHonestly monster girl Luka doesn't work since he's bottomest bottom
what's the latest on SHRIFT?
realistically what would emp do if he isekai in mgq
>>565053696He should have mostly or fully recovered from getting his appendix removed. He recently uploaded a commission he had taken while at the hospital and should be working again on that art he had missing for the latest Shrift 2 chapter.I'm not subscribed to his ci-en though, so I don't know for sure.
Kino endingI actually paused this game to play and beat Pragmata first when it came out. What's up with all these daughteru games bros... fuck...What do I play next I need more of these absolute kino 200 hour JRPGs
>>565057757>What's up with all these daughteru games brosdeclining birthrates
Morning /mggg/, just a reminder the suggestion box for our divegrass team is open!https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfdvQhahFZDaHVFs6725qODA1eVb6cVYSD1ZYPXe1U355YIRQ/viewform?usp=dialog
>second playthrough mode not yet implementedAhh I can't wait for MORE ADVENTURES!
>>565021710I think it's clear that level 1 passives in TrTr's eyes are those that are just:Can equip X weapon, +15/30/50/75% to X stat +X% damage to enemies with Y statusso usually 2 simple buffs + equip weapon/use skill are probably 1-2 level passives that will get the biggest buffsas for the buff for the clearly strong passives that don't need more mechanics they can just slap +X% stats if ally archangel is in team since you gave Uriela as an example although it would be boring
>>565054106thank you, anon. looks like we should be blessed with another update soon. once the new month rolls around i may sub to his ci-en and update y'all
The real "monsters"... are MEN!
>>565037741Younger sister of the two succubus princesses from Succubus in WonderlandStarts as an antagonist and is a recurring one for most of the game.She is the more competent out of the two but much more unhinged than Lewis too. When the Queen “half”-jokes about age regressing the MC and adopting him, she is fully onboard with that and becoming his older sister
>>565054010Not coexistence, that's for sure.Though emps having the sisters of silence train to weaponize pleasure is a fun thought
>>565070206He would have to come to terms that humans and elves being cousin species. It will probably cause him to get a psychic brain hemorrhage after finding out.
Question about the Part 3 routes. I have a save for Ilias and Alice both where the part 3 demo ends. I had been planning for years to just do one, beat it. Then load the other and beat that too. But is it better to beat one and then NG+ and then later do the other one? I've ben reading these threads over the last few days and am not sure which way is the best way to proceed.
>>565070425Tbf mgq elves are unbearably horny but at least they didn't murderfuck a whole chaos god into existence. That alone makes them a lot more tolerable than the eldar.
>>565071071I think finding out that the planet he is on has no natural intelligent life might make him question actually wanting it. Humans, monsters, angels, and almost everything in between has been modified by super science and magic. The world an abhorrent laboratory used by two tyrant goddesses.
>>565070425he used to be a friend with eldrad it more like the elf or craftworld biel tan think that genocide all life that isn't eldar and eldar being classic selfish-elf-dick-archetype that strainted his relationship
>>565071539I think what might actually make him desist from taking the planet is how outclassed he is. The chaos gods were created from the emotions of species, Ilias and Alicepheese are beings tied to the constituent elements of the universe.Besides, both of them seem content with just fucking around in one single planet. He can just declare the system and maybe a buffer zone around it off-limits and that's enough to get them both off his back.
My wife, Nanabi...
>>565072228Our wife, Nanabi
>>565070073That art in the OP wasn't off after all
>>565054010explode because he isn't on the throne
>>565072950he staying on the throne otherwise he going to turn into the chaos god and lose his humanity
>>565070680You have to NG+ and do the other route before you can do the third route. There is no scaling on the 2nd route so it's more like a victory lap, but you get Tier 4 jobs/races in a different order and of course have different recruits that does make a fresh playthrough interesting.
>>565073297ok he's gonna sit on the throne and explode shortly after because he's not getting his daily dose of psykers fed to the thronehe then turns into a chaos god loli
>>565073424i mean In much the same way Slaanesh was born from the civilisational death of the ancient Aeldari, the Dark King would have been created from the same symbolic death of Humanity during the Heresy So maybe
>>565073424>then turns into a chaos god loliThird route where Luka takes loli emps instead of either Ilias or Alice and has to stand her autism.
Sister Lamia becomes Sister of Battle Lamia
>Hidden Elf village subquest in DQ3>nearly an entire village is asleep except one man that says they were cursed by the elves and ask us to return a Dream Ruby to the elves, giving the location of the village west from there>alright resembles Enrika enough>arrive there and the elves are all super xenophobic at most one of them warning nobody likes humans and she herself shouldn’t be speaking to us>Queen tells about how her daughter fell in love with a human and disappeared along with the ruby assuming the filthy man stole it>get to the bottom of this at an underground lake>find the ruby>and a letter>the daughter wrote that they couldn’t live with their love being forbidden and life isn’t worth without him and may God give them his blessings next life.>return the ruby to the Queen and show her all that>she is sorry, she regrets, she didn’t want her daughter to die, she gives us the powder>SHE STILL HATES HUMANS IN SPITE OF INDIRECTLY KILLING HER DAUGHTER>we spread the powder on the wind>people see the MC and think it’s his father (meaning they have been asleep since before his birth meaning like 15 years minimum)>husband’s mother is surprised at what happened and says she would have accepted the marriage without issue (but she was rendered unconscious by the curse)What the actual hell. Yeah yeah I guess I understand why TRTR wanted to make a Monster Girl Quest and vouch for coexistence but Jesus Christ. At least in MGQ the elves had the excuse that humans pushed them all the way to a secluded island, here they don’t even have that. They caused a problem that lasted over a decade and got two people killed, learning nothing from it.
>>565070680For gameplay and collection reasons you want to do both in a single save which will trivialize one route, if you want to experience the ride as intended the split saves will give you the ideal experience.
https://youtu.be/eV9BehDNVCg?si=-lrISkkNo0mOWp49
>>565062426Chaos and Deus/Bunny Luka are so above the rest of the main cast I wouldn't be surprised if TrTr still gave them double action or other mechanics because they're not really all that op anymore and he's "trying to balance" traits.
>>565073297That's not why he's on the throne anon, he's on the throne to keep the chaos overrunning everything and turning Terra into another chaos gate and a galaxy wide warp storm>>565074559Would be great to see>>565073424That's not going to happen, what's going to happen is chaos is going to break out and then he might be reborn
>>565076147If the Calamities are any indication, I think those two are safe from being kicked out of the top of the mountain. I do wonder how some characters like the Grand Noah Queen are going to be upgraded. Her trait upgrade is tied heavily to the Part 3's story, and her new sprite is the same.
>>565076961>If the Calamities are any indicationConsidering that leaked Granberia's was a physical Gilgorn instead of what it is now I don't think any of them actually work as an indication.
>>565058772Fulfilled my monster duty and sent the suggestion form.
>>565077828DP, NLK, and 7DS trait makes me think they are the real ones.
>>565052997Why is everything with Kagetsumugi so fucking peak?
>>565078218Still subject to change. Even Lucifina and Micaela got nerfed only that their traits are just different numbers. Plus they're a group of characters, if one goes up or down they have the potential of getting group buffed/nerfed like those two.
>>565072945Yes
>>565062426I wonder what he's going to do with girls whose passives are literally "Can always use thief and insect skills and they cost 66% SP."There's a lot of chaff with no actual role
>>565088109Portrait art vs full CG that was in the image I replied to
>>565088305Oh that yes she gets a bit of a redesign in Demon in Wonderland.
I have put many, many hours into this and that sure is a demon probably.
>>565089939Where's the impregnate option?
>>565067103Why did her father make her drink sewage though?
>>565092447It was fertilizer, its what the plants crave. Plants have tentacles so its easy to get confused
>>565092447did you ever try sewage
Out of curiosity, if a character in a game has the unlockable passive ability "+2 tentacles", were I to add them to paradox, what would be the best way to include this as part of a trait.Asking for a friend.Who may-or-may-not be Okyuu.
>>565096207"Tentacle skills do two extra hits" is the obvious and most appropriate way to implement it.
>>565097028Perhaps the "I don't want to make a character overpowered" part of me was just trying to avoid that, but yeah, I guess it just makes the most logical sense.Her Awakening Bonus is having all her additional tentacles dealing +10% damage, so for the on-paper draft (as I haven't figured out how to mod Part 3 yet just Part 2) I wrote that as a miniature heat-up combo exclusively for multi-hit tentacle skills because that's the only thing I could think of for trying to accurately depict it. Okyuu's signature weapon also gives her an additional +2 tentacles, so I'd either need to add a separate buff to her weapon and then figure out how to make them stack, or it would just turn into +4 hits.I mean, I guess Wormiel still exists, and I feel like you can't really beat "I'm able to spam this ZZZ skill twelve times in a single turn without even using a single buff" anyway which is part of why Okyuu is geared to Ocean/Tentacle combos and support for the rest of her trait, but I guess her having a bonus affinity for Tentacles on top of it is simply the most logical way to adapt her combat skills.It's not like it's inaccurate either.
>>565100982>I guess Wormiel still exists, and I feel like you can't really beat "I'm able to spam this ZZZ skill twelve times in a single turn without even using a single buff"You're underestimating Bullet Time
>>565057757It's peak.Need something like this but with FoC Luka and his daughter.
>>565023510Harpies die for harpy food and humans die for wealth.
>>565103847gonna be honest I legitimately forgot Bullet Time existed until you mentioned it and I recalled it was that one thing Pina and Pii had that they never used during the period of time they were in Trueshot to help them out while waiting to unlock Ruin Event and it triggered like a couple times and I only vaguely remembered what it did. I guess that's what happens when you beat the game with every girl only mastering one or two Tier Five jobs. Reina and Lucretia didn't even have that nor any method to use it, and Lucretia would've benefitted at least.Now I'm not really sure how to handle that, although I guess I'm probably the only one who would think it's a problem.
>>565103847it's not like wormiel doesn't benefit from bullet time on her twelve absurdly high hit count attacks either, wasn't there a meme about how long it took for her turns to finish to the point one of trtr's updates just added in a toggle to condense all multi-hit attacks down into one animation?
>>565110067>die*t*
The worse thing about multi-hit tentacle attacks that go into the 15-20 hit range, is how obnoxiously long the battles get if you keep all animations on, and at the default speed.
>Oni exist in real lifeHOLY SHT, tell me there are young ones too, literally MGQ in real world.
>>565113051Imagine an enemy stopping and waiting until all 15-20 tentacles hit him.
>>565113145Once again, reality never measures up to 2d.
>>565113392With proper body proportions, enough make up and drugs, it does.
>>565113145Tengu really existed as well.The red faced bird people with big noses were actually sunburnt European sailors that shipwrecked in Japan, who surbibed off stealing shit.
>>565114942heh. We wuz yokai.
>>565111848>doesn't benefit from bullet timeBullet Time gets stronger off itself. Those extra +2 hits are an additional +1.75 and +3.0625 from the final attack.>wasn't there a meme about how long it took for her turns to finish to the point one of trtr's updates just added in a toggle to condense all multi-hit attacks down into one animation?That was Hiruko since you're expected to use her and get carried by her in a fight while she has a garbage default build with no element boosters. Wormiel is a somewhat rare encounter and got buffed from the Part 3 trait buff update so it couldn't be her.
>>565115194anon, i know they both benefit from bullet time, i just don't see how +4 hits on a single skill will make someone's damage outpace two additional casts with each use of the skill, since wormiel uses every tentacle skill three times and has +75% damage.
>>565116920If you're dealing 1 trillion damage on the final hit with Wormiel, than the +2 additional hit character will be dealing about 5 trillion more damage. Sure Wormiel casts it 2 more times but those are losing the actual stackable +75% damage increases from each attack and we're talking about Tentacle skills, the skills you cast 7x times regardless if you have a trait for it those 2 extra attacks aren't going to beat the +5 trillion from the +2 multihit
>>565103985that'd be cute
I'd say "what have I done" but then I realized that besides her cheerfully discussing how the power of her tentacles is her pride and joy (I RIPPED THIS BOAT IN HALF!) to the extent she struggles to hold back her strength a lot, Okyuu already ran into this exact situation of "seemingly fine/innocuous thing that gets completely broken when buffed by something else" because that's exactly what happened to her Splatoon Shooto outfit. Her Octuple Shot balances the eight hits and massive rapid fire pace that also shreds enemy defenses by having it have no attack/damage multipliers, but because the game has added people who can make girls hit the attack cap easily the attack multipliers of skills become moot once you get there and so Octuple Shot no longer has any downside and just obliterates anything she's pointed in the direction of.It requires you to intentionally buff her to that point, so Okyuu still isn't overpowered or broken on her own (she's probably the strongest a girl can get before it becomes overpowered though), but it's kinda funny that situation would also apply here.
Well, I don't even remember how to apply bullet time anyways, so it's fine right!
>>565114942Wait are Tengu just j
>>565021462Any content update since part 3 was out 2 years ago? Any additional plans for the future from mgqpdevs?
>>565139869Is vanilla a jew
>>565148028>Any content update since part 3 was out 2 years ago?Part 3 characters that were weak got buffedMore characters were added to the marriage list, and now they have lines in the pocket castleSmall sidequest where you recruit a new postgame characterThird route has an option to have a funny dungeon goddess that tells you the way and chestsYou can turn off multihit skills to 1 attack and skip of combat skills. Every character with a start of combat/turn or end turn ability gets a special ability to turn off their ability.>Any additional plans for the future from mgqpdevs?We've been shown a few spoiler charactersAlso when you start NG++ every character will be buffed in an attempt to balance the game. In the dev's words if things are on a 1-10 scale right now it'll become an 11-13.
>>565149352nah, her prices don't have 10000% markup
>>565149352She's just a vaguely european aristocrat who has to be forced into making fair deals, and not scamming people and phoenix girls via hypnosis and lies.Don't mind the part where her clan invaded a sovereign desert nation either.
>>565150258>funny dungeon goddess that tells you the way and chests
>>565075273Okay so it's worth doing, let's say, the Ilias route first. Then go to my other save and beat the Alice route. And then just pick one to go through NG+ to get to the third route? Am I understanding that right?
>>565154909yep
>>565153768I don't even think it's vampires in general, the more I played through part three the more I started to believe Vanilla really would be the kind of person who'd tie someone to a chair and start screaming at them with a knife because she felt personally slighted by an offhand comment
>>565149352Possibly but money gremlins are some of my favorite characters
>>565154909It's not worth swapping saves.Just use a different party in a NG+.
>>565154909It's only worth it if you really love the game and want to use an Alice/Ilias party instead of just streamrolling the second.
>>565164783I mean he can just kick Luka out and use the other main girl with appropriate level recruits.
>>565165548Well if you want to use any non route exclusive or some of the weaker ones they end up getting underleveled for the Chaos route. There's no problem with Alice or Zion but you still then have to remember what's a weapon/gem/job/race you carried over from the last route if you're trying to simulate a "first playthrough".
>>565166996I think you're overthinking it.There's hundreds of girls.He doesn't lose any exp on anyone for doing NG+ over a pointless split save.Part 1-2 gear is so crap anyway that isn't not even a big deal to accidentally use a few things a bit too strong for a particular spot.
>>565168335>There's hundreds of girls.I mean depends on how you see it, if you're going to replace Trooperoid or Bomb Slime for Marcellus and Lucifina then yeah he's not losing xp, if your character has less job levels than them they're underleveled. >Part 1-2 gear is so crap anyway that isn't not even a big deal to accidentally use a few things a bit too strong for a particular spot.That's part of the fun, and end of route gear is on the opposite end of being so op that it ends up being boring.
>>565169076I misread and he's at Part 3, my bad, then just roll with whichever he likes more.
>>565112036That pie-loving harpy looks rather plump. Can she even fly..?
Would a mgq gacha actually work?
>>565182332I know its not outright mentioned, but it is also discussed in this thread and also here>>>/vmg/1994005
>>565183124I know about TD, I meant more about just mgq. I feel like it would be cool as a b tier gacha
>>565185505It has the sizable cast for a gacha, which can get bigger with alts, and the canonical existence of AUs means you can make a bunch of fan fiction characters. I don't think TrTr would want one, since he wouldn't have full control of it.
>>565185505They would almost certainly cannibalise each other, it doesn't feel viable at all.
I wish we didn’t have heavy restrictions on those DMM gacha. Needing a VPN and translator programs to run kind of screw over the main convenience of being able to pull your tablet to open it anywhere.Like sure, they are 18+ and therefore you can’t do that in public but once a while there is a situation like when you are waiting in a car while others go bug stuff and the like.>>565182332Well TD is the main example in its favor. And Paradox is super popular.I don’t see why it wouldn’t work.>tfw when the SEQUEL collab was announced the players eere musinh over the fact it’s cheaper to buy ALL of Hakika’s games than one of his girls in TDI finally understood the value of those collabs
>>565188642>being able to pull your tablet to open it anywhereLower the brightness on your device screen, that's how I used to do MGR arena grinds>>565182332Probably not, but maybe they can still do something with it on the mobile front. Dunno what though
>>565188642After a while you'll be able to play the web version as it'll be muscle memory on what to do so long as you're playing and not reading. Just don't try to equip a lot of subskills on your phone, even if you can read it.
>>565188642DMM is garbage and very anti gaijin, which is one of the reasons why Kancolle popularity fell off so hard.
Metatronne and Sandalphone request is finished. https://files.catbox.moe/hs2hl3.png
>>565195614Luka is ripped here
>>565189306>>565190064Oh that’s smart! I forgot there is a web version. That helps a lot for me to do dailies and stuff.I’ve been skipping a lot in busy days.>>565191130Really? Once a while I wonder what happened to it. Years back Kantai Collection was everywhere, like Infinite Stratos but I never knew why it disappeared.I knew Infinite Stratos was because the author was enraged his favorite wasn’t popular so he fucked over everyone else in the cast
>>565188642>SEQUEL collabwai- wait, whaa-? are lucy or hecate in there? where can i find out more?
>>565156414Yeah, I know my wife is based.
>>565196949The girls that got in TD were:>Rabi>Tirma>Nyx>Nazuna>Maria
>>565198715well... i'm happy for the people who like 'em!
>>565196949Are you confusing sequel with shrift?
>>565200670nta but I could have sworn that shrift sequel was basically called shrift sequel.
>>565200956>shrift sequel was basically called shrift sequel.kek
>>565200956No its just called shrift 2
>>565200670... yeah i may be retarded.
I wouldn't be surprised if there was a Tower Defense section in SHRIFT 2. It's filled with odd minigames.
>>565203408Its okay anon we all make mistakes
>>565074691Never trust an elf.
>>565205942Only trust yours-elf.
>For the sin of being a cute boy, you're sentenced to one orgasm~
>>565217057Fortunately I am an ugly old man.
>>565217057Only one? Valkyrie finally taught her discipline.
>>565182332It should be popular enough to work, but it'll have the problem that it'll never add in every real character because there's too many ugly characters no one would want to roll on and would take too long to drip feed as freebies.
>>565217057>>565218064>You sullied an angel? Your punishment is ten more orgasms!
>>565217215A hundred it is
>>565221670oh no.......
>>565220372Circular logic angel punishment was probably the only really good thing to come from MGQ.
>>565219436Even a horror show like the Roper can look attractive with the right artist. The issue is once the VN main cast, i.e. Alice, 4HKs, and Ilias, get added in, you'll start seeing a drop in player population as those are most of the popular characters in the franchise.
>>565222276You can make them look nice, but even then girls like Roper aren't something people would want to pull. People will want stuff like Halloween Kitsu and Easter Alma Elma alts over Roper being a banner unit.
>>565223037The solution would be making her low rank and maybe increasing her chance to drop in certain banners.The real problem is an MGQ Gacha is redundant. Paradox already lets you recruit and play with everyone and get unique dialogue that develops them, which is a big appeal of games like Pokemon Masters.
>>565223037Yeah, but the post indicates the only reason she couldnt pull is because of her ugly design, which doesnt matter as long as a talented artist does the work.Tgis theoretical gacha game is really going to live or die based on the VN designs since they are the most well known.
>>565224290>a talented artist does the work.Do you know why gacha games only produce generic anime girls?
>>565224405>gacha games only produce generic anime girlsnta but you are playing wrong gacha
>>565224261>MGQ Gacha is redundantDepends if it embraces alts or not. If it doesn't outside the usual form changes then yes, but there could be a seasonal Alma Elma alts that wouldn't really work in Paradox.>>565224290Roper is just too unconventional. She's just a step above saying you can salvage Unknown 1 because you can get a better artist.
>>565188642>>565188289I do feel like the existence of MMTD and even Paradox in of itself kinda precludes the hypothetical idea from success, as Paradox was literally built around the idea of "you can recruit and use any girl" and trying to turn it into a system where that's no longer in your control while also needing to compete with something else would be troublesome. It'd just feel redundant, and also probably lack a lot of the freedom that makes Paradox so fun. I'm also not sure if it would lend itself as well to being one setting wise, although I can see the potential for fun event/story ideas.I think MMTD's biggest strength is it's much more light-hearted, comedic tone, so even though there's some serious moments that can be pretty great, as a whole it's just a generally relaxing, low-stakes island summed up as "really strong monster girls and meddlesome humans get up to wacky hijinks" where 90% of the cast came from an asylum in order to make their behavior as funny as possible. Just wish it was better managed.>>565203408kekHappens to everyone, don't worryI think it's extremely funny though that technically MGQ and SEQUEL can "cross-over" now by proxy; I knew little to nothing about it prior to the event, but Nazuna's honestly hilarious.>>565222276Hilariously, MMTD's wiki actually brings this up on Luka's page:>"On the other hand, from the second half of the story, battles against grotesque chimeras that look like they came straight out of Cthulhu Mythos created by Promestein increase, and because of the breadth of acceptance to be able to enjoy even such monsters that are hard to call 'girls', they are also respected as a true master of sexual prowess."
>>565197282But based on what anon?BASED ON WHAT?!
>>565227990I think it would look a lot like DisgaeaRPG. And now I remembered DisgaeaRPG so FUCK Boltrend
>>565228202I hate this scene.
>>565229374Gone too soon dood...
What would a MGQ gacha even be about? It's a common joke that a gacha game's story is important, but in this case it probably would be. Would Luka be the MC? Maybe a nameless self-insert? Would this be girls only, or would male characters be in the gacha rolls? It's kind of funny how much questions get brought up for something that is essentially a cash grab.
>>565233094Just run the trilogy, put SOL events in the middle, then do Paradox. Only women, Luka protagonist ala gbf
>>565233094Yet another timeline that retells Luka's initial journey at a very, very, very slow pace, so the game can roll out all the characters. A few years down the line you cross over with paradox and get to have banners for upgraded versions of the core cast.Gacha stories are all about advertising the next character so you want to set things up to constantly have the newest character walk in or come back when you do a rerun.>Would this be girls onlyYes. Porn gacha players do not want dudes at the best of times and with how monster girls behave, good luck convincing the parasocial addicts(that are your best customers) that the girls exist only for (You). The only gacha I'm aware of that didn't have that sort of drama is Nikke for being hyper-aggressive with making every man non-threatening.
I dont really like gachas and the gambling aspect or that all the characters are paper thin and all the player masturabtory stuff. Its just not for me
Complaining about player masturbatory stuff in a porn game general is kinda wild
Think of all the succubus girls that go hungry if you waste food.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_universal_common_ancestorLuca...
>>565236294>if you waste food.t. succubus
LUCA is our Last Universal Common Ancestor of ALL life, not just Eukaryotic species. FUCA is the first Universal Common Ancestor of all life, ancestor of LUCA but not considered the first form of life, but rather the Ancestor of all modern cells.
>>565230231well, that's why I was making the joke about how unhinged Vanilla is in the first place, and the escalation of her behavior in part three (particularly the third route).>>565229374I've no idea what that was like but sorry for your loss bros. I know the feeling.>>565233094The most logical choice would be a version of the original Luka's story except with the added "recruit girl" part for fostering coexistence, like a hybrid of the original world and Paradox. Retroactively taking it into account, it would make sense for the original Alice to still own the Pocket Castle, but just never really need to use it and thus never have it come up, and with the timeline stuff already going on it's not a bad excuse. That being said some gacha stories are better than others and not all needed to advertise new alt/character thing at first and even then they could still do it very well if the game's writer is a very competent person who can pull it off, and the inclusion of showing off new content or a preview for upcoming content like bosses and stuff as well can be pretty fun too and heck you can even have cool male characters too in such a case.The problem is going to be that this gacha will fundamentally be a porn one.And, as per >>565234550 porn gacha players are either the source of many gacha stereotypes or the personification of every single one of them all at once.That is to say, they are not the most mentally stable people.Unhinged, if you will.Also gacha is gacha and I would really rather not if possible, even when I do think a game is good enough to start viewing it as a worthwhile, fun experience, the "gacha" part is ALWAYS going to drag it down, and fundamentally detract from it no matter what. Paradox is pretty much the best aspects of it without the baggage problems.
>>565236158Funny enough, if MGQ does some how gets a gacha, one thing that the devs might ask of TrTr to reach a wider audience, is to reduce the more " niche" fetishes, and make it more vanilla. So a great reduction of vore and body horror porn.
>>565237202just make the fucked up angels low rarity. Easy fix.
>>565219436It'd be best as a card game.
>>565235871Perfectly understandable, gachas are never an ideal game format unless you are deliberately trying to fish money from whales.>all the characters are paper thindefine "paper thin", in terms of writing there's plenty of games with a great well written cast (even if it suffers from gacha curse of 'good luck pulling the one you actually want'). In MMTD's case, I do think a lot of the newer girls suffer from this problem. But the older ones definitely don't and are pretty great overall, which is likely why they remain popular (for it's users at least) too. If all of them were flatly written I wouldn't have stuck around after the collab ended, because I wouldn't have cared about any of them.In general the smaller the cast is, the less this problem occurs, and the older a character is the more likely they are to be well done. I think this is even applicable in Paradox.>player masturabatory stuffthe obvious joke aside I think I get what you mean (constant main character shilling) but this definitely isn't a gacha-exclusive problem or even a game exclusive problem. I can assure you it's easy to recognize when this starts happening, and yeah it's grating and obnoxious, especially when it becomes excessive and especially if the guy absolutely does not deserve it. But some games also avoid doing this too, in varying ways. Even gachas.Albeit I can only think of three gachas and only one of those actually did it in the "well written character arcs and engaging conflicts based on the lasting consequences of his choices" way.
aaaaaaand now I'm reminiscing on it again, thanks guys
>>565233094Schizo idea inbound: What if it's a retelling of the trilogy but with a twist? Chaos discovered gacha games and got addicted, then decided it'd be nice if gacha games starred people she knew. Cue timeline shenanigans and now there's a universe running on gacha mechanics for Chaos' amusement
>>565237136>That is to say, they are not the most mentally stable people.It should also be mentioned that gacha games foster and nurture this behavior. It all varies from game to game and all, but the fundamental design principle of a mobile game is to get you addicted to the slow drip of rewards. Waifu gachas then add an extra layer by getting you emotionally invested into the characters, with detailed backstories and characters being very open about their emotions. They instantly and quickly like you, with some assurance that they will never leave you - through a social structure like an adventuring party, company, military unit, a supernatural bond or there just not being any other guys.And then you add the social elements: rewarding social media engagement and fan content with in-game rewards to create environment that keeps players attached in between updates. The usual algorythmns then push people further in and encourage tribalism, either between girls or between different games. Combine that with the general loneliness of modern life and you get people that place far too much of their emotional well-being on a fictional character. Great when they dump all that spare income from not going out into skins or wedding rings, not so much when you piss them up and thousands of people feel as if you murdered their wife.>>565240695There already exist isekai/fantasy school shooter stories based on gacha games. The ones I know usually are not any good because the randomness is missing in the narrative and gacha hasn't yet defused into the culture to be referenced like general fantasy. Personally I think video games in general haven't, but that's very much a matter of taste.
>>565243528I thought that had already been expressed, but yeah that's definitely a large part in the manipulative, insidious practice of it, undeniably a factor in why so many (myself included) think gachas are terrible. it's not exclusive to them, but they vast majority of them are always built around this. some of it, on the surface, doesn't sound bad (like developed characters, fan stuff, etc) but when used for no other reason than to cynically try and leech money out of you, and make you completely addicted to it, almost like living the game, then it becomes so. There's that image from a video game conference I always remember regarding live service shit about how studios were discussing the "benefits" of conditioning a playerbase into viewing the game like a job they needed to do 24/7, except of course they did not get paid money but rather gave them money. I also recall said game studios flipping their shit that it got leaked and trying to cover it up. Probably because it was true. In any case making an environment that sustains itself on unhinged people tends to attract people who are unhinged and it very easily spirals.>you get people that place far too much of their emotional well-being on a fictional characterPerhaps I'm not one to talk, but I always felt like the idea of a 'waifu' isn't inherently bad, until you somehow became completely obsessed with them or so detached that you started to focus everything on them. It can be fun and pleasant and nice, but then some people practically turn into cultists over a girl from something they like and it just makes everything weird and uncomfortable with how far it gets taken. I was reminded why waifufag became derogatory somewhat recently after I'd mostly forgotten.
>>565243528>>565247324i guess i finally have an excuse to post this but i checked out the /waifu/ thread back when that parasocial tourist was asking for contact details and trying to get people to come to it and i kinda chuckled at a bunch of them showing off their 'collections' like some kind of shrine.it was mostly pic related though. i don't know why i find this so funny. but in general if the reaction the girl you like would have to you is an immediate restraining order than you've probably gone too far.
>>565248357Yeah that was uh something alright look 'I love Reina' of course but to not go into it again that day was the aforementioned reminder and really trying to ask a bunch of random anons for their information in the first place was incredibly bizarre and parasocial and a pretty big red flag.
>>565237869monster girl quest: scalping edition
Doing the collab or not is the real Great Decision
>>565253128Do it for sexually bullying Gilgorn.
>>565253128Do it for kazuya and hakunen because they're the only crossover dudes you actually care about
>>565254759What about the women?
>>565255641I don't know them and i don't care. nightmares are a shitty gimmick though
>>565253128>no blue magic, dual shield, heavy dex converter for everyone>no demoniod race changesIt's too detrimental gameplaywise not to even if you don't want the S tier characters.
>>565257210I did ignore it in my previous paradox run. When it comes to it, you can just recruit girls on the way who come with these jobs and abilities. I just think the 10 chapters, the castle and the loop event is so ass.
>>565257878You are weakening Luka by not doing the collab, since he is the one who benefits the most since he is constantly leveling up his race/job class.
>>565257210Who even has the race reqs needed to access demoid though? So far only been able to get luka into it
>>565259715Any human can get it, since it's the main racial requirement. It requires going through Yoma, Vampire, Youkai lines, which is pretty time consuming, so Luka seems to be the only ready for it by the time the race selection opens.
>>565257878Most characters want Blue Magic or Dex stacking for themselves. They don't benefit from another character having those jobs like a Dual-Shield tank. >>565259715Demoniod (intermediate) can be done by any human or mermaid. Archfiend (advanced) and above need angel so it becomes just Luka, the Doppels, and Wormiel before you get the angel race change
>>565260185as an aside, it's still kinda funny how the original fourth tier human race (human -> demonoid -> archfiend) was named chaos in 2.41, and now it's "super archfiend" and then trtr added a fifth tier and then made the fifth tier human race archfiend of chaos and then made chaos a completely separate thing. the serial escalation of the ridiculous power creep is just really, really wild.
>>565260185Novissa starts with Yoma races so he can get it about as fast if not faster.
>>565260185Considering what Demonoid is supposed to be, the race requirements don't make a lick of sense. Because of how it's the "Nero" class, you would think it would be need human/angel/yoma requirement considering it's a Chaos oriented race, which means it needs the holy/dark combination to actually exist.
>>565261342Nero is an Archfiend, which is the one that actually requires angel.
>>565260943Oh yeah, forgot about that.Why does he have that again? Is he part demon in his game of origin?
>>565261814I remember him getting kidnapped and experimented on, but you had to play yet another game to get that. ROBFS4U ends right after he gets kidnapped
>>565236158
>>565021462If the EPIC mgqp modder is in here or anyone can relay a message to him: I just thought of a crazy idea for a modSo lots of other people are into ERPing, right? And lots of people like to include things like level draining or other RPG mechanics in their ERPing and stuff. So I thought, hey, how about a mod where you can...>1: Set up a fight with a dummy NPC in the pocket castle. You can give that NPC whatever stats, worn equipment, defensive abilities, etc. that are available in-game. The dummy shouldn't fight back but should be able to automatically use any counterattack abilities that it has>2: To make the above EXPONENTIALLY faster and easier to set up, you can save/export templates like "My mid-level Luka in part 2.file" or whatever and share them. Other people can then interact with the dummy, assign that template's values to the dummy, and fight it>3: While ERPing, both people have MGQP up and deal 1 attack to the dummy that matches what their post was like>EG Luka vs. Alma Elma in an ERP and in-game. Alma has superior agility so she goes first and attacks her dummy on her end after making an ERP post about using a pleasure attack on Luka. Luka in the ERP writes his erotic post and counterattacks in it, then attacks the dummy in MGQP. Whichever dummy dies first represents who lost the ERP fight, as if the game was multiplayer all along!>>565150258Didn't know that "the ghost," as it was MTLed, who guides the way in dungeons was actually Ilias and that she gets funny lines. I love all the comedy in this game. Thanks for informing that anon and me by extension>Also when you start NG++ every character will be buffed ...Oh wow, I didn't know that either. That's so awesome! And here I thought NG+(+?) was just going to be a mechanically boring, story-focused roflstompI am ready for... everlasting game...
>>565279173If you're talking about Tinyfixes Anon, he unfortunately isn't around anymore. And he isn't coming back, either. I hope he's at peace.....I also don't really know how a mod like that would work either but it's, uh, kinda strange I guess. But I never really understood the point of ERP either, so I don't know.
>>565279173>mechanically boring, story-focused roflstompTrtr has no idea how to balance shit so it's still going to be that just that you can now use Lime instead of Seraphs or Archangels to hardcarry.
Chi-pa-pa!
>>565286642
>>565279173*steals you're idea*nyeh-heh-heh!
>>565295067The dance of a canonical semen thief....
>>565295067FUCKING FOXES REEEEEEEEEEE...Tell me how you plan on implementing it.
>>565297543i'll vibe code it and make an llm bride so you don't even need another anon to play with.
>>565299948*bridge but bride is fitting too
>>565299948Idk what this means or what you actually intend to do with my idea. Sorry, I'm in a bad place right now and suddenly more emotional than I've been in >15 years, using this as a distraction to calm myself down. Were you just making a playful joke when you said >>565295067 and you're not going to make a mod like that or anything?
>>565300482vibe coding means letting the ai do all the hard work while i have a cheeky wank. your idea sounded interesting and like something that could enhance my own ai cooms, so i thought why not try it? if it works out and i get a good result, i'll share.
>>565301038Wait so you really know how to make mods for paradox? Wow, that's crazy. I'd be happy to see the results!
>>565291867Why is she laughing ?Scylla are good wives we meet a dude in remina whos married to one and even has a daughter with her
>>565291867>Hard into femdom, can't enjoy anything even remotely maledom-ish or adjacent>Pretend to be scared and resistant as she has her way with me>Whisper the truth in her ear as we lie in bed afterward, wait for it to sink in, then cover her face in kisses while trying not to laughPRANKED!
>>565303734That's Eric and Ursula (in her Vanessa form) from Disney's Little Mermaid. She's laughing because (unlike the movie) she managed to keep him hypnotized and wed him, so Ariel will never get a true love kiss from him and thus lost the deal they made.
>>565304748>That's morbidly obese Ursula in disguiseNevermind, >>565304396 I take it back
>>565305352that's what you get for thinking you can outwit monstergirls
>>565058772Morning /mggg/, making a last call on the suggestion box for the divegrass team today. If you have anything you want to see on the team, be sure to do it will you can!
oh shit, she's an Osananajimi watch out!
UNYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>565305352>attempts to prank monster girl>gets double-prankedFOOOOOOOOL
>>565291867
>>565336028A rape machine is just a machine to me
nyooo.....
>>565336028You can't rape the consenting.
Why should words matter more than what the body tells you
>>565360484That's what they all say for the first ten cumshots.
Trtr should had called the Third route the Luka route
>>565361443>t.
>>565368869Illias?
>>565368869>is you there somebody ask?
>>565371071
>>565368936I L I A S*
>>565372303got it, Iliass
>>565327746
I love ILIAS and I hope ILIAS will bring the goodness of Heaven to our world and then ILIAS will receive the prayer and praise a goddess named ILIAS deserves
>BINDyou're telling me it's over on just one bad roll?
>>565374506At least you waste a Phoenix down if she plays dumb and doesn't kill Rigeo.
Thank you Okyuu for blessing my pulls; now I finally have all the girls I wanted! Sea Team and Harpy Team is finally complete! Also, I now have all her friends! It's just neat.Emily looks fun paired up with them too.>>565374506I guess you could say you're in a bind
>>565373124HEARTLESS!
>>565291867Seven vaganias
>>565372303>>565372452>>565374354pisslias*
Its ironic that illias did actually turn out to be essential to keep the universe running and that luka killing her led to the universe imploding. Her claims of divinity hold a bit more credance now
>>565385270the time crash that he caused only happened because ilias had to keep rewinding time and destabilized it to begin with; essentially if you actually do beat MGQ all the way through without dying/losing/falling for a dead end once, then Luka killing Ilias (and the other two) has zero consequences and nothing bad happens
>>565385270He just sealed her really hard actually.
>>565304748>Ursula...guys a legit crazy ursula(co-worker and a fucking bitch) texted me that she is in love with me...i fucking LOATH her...i only was nice/polite to her because is well i like to treat others like they treat me.Somehow she thought i was being "romantic", guys i'm legit desperate now how do i get out of this mess?I was just being considerate....please any advice?
>>565385779politely inform her that you simply do not see her in that way; for one reason or another (already taken/not interested right now/don't want trouble at the workplace/monster girls raped me and now i'm addicted to monster girl pussy/etc), and that you hope that she understands and it's nothing personal against her (even if it actually is very personally something against her).Then pray to God and/or get the support of friends/family (if you have any, not going to judge) to protect or defend you if they turn out to be literal BPD-levels of unhinged.Also do not do anything that she can try to cry victim about; once you say this just ghost her or try to flee from her and just claim she makes you uncomfortable. If things get to the worst try to complain about her harassing you. I am aware this would be an uphill battle but that's really all I can think of.My condolences, anon. this is a bit parasocial but if you really don't have any place else to ask then i guess why not
>>565386951Thanks man i'm already saving pics she's sending in case she gets any crazy idea...fucking hell... she is unhinged even the other co-workers are legit terrified of her and her insane wall of texts she writes>parasocialwe are all anon here and we all have that in common it's comforting that we can talk and just say how it is without the usual socal stigma around it
>>565387620>the other co-workers are legit terrified of heruhhhhh do you live in a 3rd world country or something?
>>565387724Worse germany
>>565387724nta but it doesn't take living in the sticks to have to be wary of a psychotic land whale or just an unhinged coworker in general, female or not. Especially if you're in some place that's """""""""""progressive"""""""""""".I know people who were in similar situations (albeit no confessions) and I also used to work with a legitimately unhinged female coworker who hated pretty much everyone who was younger than her but also specifically hated me. Although thankfully the manager was actually great at that place and she got fired for constant harassment and then got banned in general when she blamed me and tried to take it out on me.That was years ago though; I don't think I'd have the same confidence in a workplace to do that sort of thing now.>>565387620That is true. being anon is the best part of the place.>germanyyeah i know a guy from there, it's sounding pretty rough.
>>565385779>"Erm I'm sorry but I'm not looking for a relationship right now"
>>565400231Went like the way of the horse after the invention of cars.
>>565400961i get mail all the time
>>565401584
>>565402332that's mean
>tfw will never have illias condesendingly call me a retardWhy even live
>>565403621
>>565255641Myusca is cute. Always do it.
>Even though they won their version of the GMW, and have been preparing for the 2nd one for a long while, the AW and MW can only muster a grand army that only numbers at 20k.I don't know, after all that build up, it just seems kind of funny that TrTr just drops this random number out of nowhere, that sounds really small in scale.
>>565405120>when she tries out anal
>>565405120>even if you met ilias today, you couldn't understand her>she'd only have eyes for luka anyway
>>565405629Kinda hard to give numbers when it's starting to get into Dragon Ball powerlevels as you run into the problem that they're fodder or saying that there's numerous people that would had beaten the old bad guys no problem.
If we take everything from Paradox as canon then theoretically some of the Phenomena of Ruins still exist in the original VN. If they encountered one would the OG cast be able to beat them or are they screwed?
>>565413369>Star-Eater comes back>Cthulhu is unsealed>Another DEroder appearsThey're turbofuckedThe rest are either dead or can only exist due to Paradox' timeline fuckery afaik
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laplace_transform
>>565413369Depends if Nero and Neris abuse timestop.
Foxes won
Every day there is a fox dying on this planet.
>>565058772I'm closing the suggestion box in a few hours. Get any ideas for players, their models, the music, stadiums and even adboards in soon!
won foxes
>>565413369Yes, and no.Someone like the 7DS isn't that threatening if they can corner her, but they would actually need to know how her power gathering works. The two goddesses who know how her powers work isn't around anymore.
I am away from home right now. Does Paradox’s installation still requires going through a weird program first that essentially copies the game translated or is it more convenient nowadays?
>>565431296There's even more steps if you want to combine the latest tl + mtl
>>565431296short answer, yeslong answer>>565433847in short, unless you really like the game or the h scenes it's not worth going back to it if say you lost your save files like that anon did earlier this year.
Hey it been so time since I’ve been here, any news on the MGQP Part 3 translation?I looked at the Arzorx
>>565436704What are you talking about? It's 2020 and part 3 still hasn't come out.
>>565436704>I looked at the ArzorxAnd there hasn’t been any news for a little while now, the last Blog post hasn’t even been translated yet
>>565436704The last translation post was in february, and they were relatively close to the end of the monster/angel world. I guess that this month we'll get some update, and if we're lucky both routes will be translated by fall.
>>565433847>>565434836Oh. Well it’s fine. I’ll leave that complicated stuff for when I finish what’s already translated.
>>565058772Retoasting this from previous thread:>''Blender slave here, just want to say that you guys can suggest whatever you want regardless of whether the model can be easily accessed. I'll do my best making it.''
>>565442743I thought mermaids where one of the less rape hapy races
>>565058772requesting this as one of the ad boards please(i asked for it in the suggestion box but forgot the image)
>>565453236they are, but the queen wasn't before she had a change of heart, that's why you can see Laura on the sign
If you want, anons, I did upload a new demo.https://iorhela.itch.io/mrpgThere still isn't a lot going on but I don't hate my art as much anymore and it mostly should play like that mmo/jrpg grinding experience I wanted, even if I haven't added professions or class trainers yet.I've also gotten a bit more practice with animation so I should be able to add explicit stuff soon.
>>565457908Good Job, I'll give it a try anon
>>565457908it does look better than before
>>565424861I'm sure this fox is scheming something evil, but maybe if I lie down for just a mo- ZZZZZZ
>>565457908>>565458279Okay, I played it, its okay, I see your vision. I like it somewhat, my human profile pic didn't look like that, I did the quest the Demon told me and the I kept going down the road and I ran into your waifu anon, and then a Skeleton and a china building and then I disappeared.
>>565461320then you experienced everything, anon. The next version will be the content one, I hope.
>>565462060I've been rooting for you since you started years ago anon, I look forward to how it will be in the future. Also I would love some optimization please
>irias.oggI know of your wrongdoings. You know what I speak of, don't you? If you confess your sins, wealth shall come to you.If you do not settle your debts, you will never find happiness. If you continue pretending ignorance, your future will be closed off.No matter how small the sin may seem, it becomes a shackle that holds back your happiness.Telling lies, breaking promises, being late, wasting other people’s time, hurting others, making them sad, speaking ill behind their backs,making spiteful remarks, rejecting others, or envying them... even these seemingly trivial acts are all sins.Even if others reject you, I alone will forgive you.Human beings are destined to make mistakes. If you confess those sins, happiness will come to you.>*Goddess's roar*
>>565471229Shut up dumb winged elf.
>>565471229I wanted to be an alien looking squid with no face, not a hairless biped ape. Thanks for nothing Ilias.
>>565471229I love my wife, Doppel, way too much. Even though I know I shouldn't and I would fall into despair if anything happened to her
How close are we to Part 4?
>>565481172lol
If the angels opened a help hotline, how many would call thinking it's a sex hotline?
>>565483232I would
Only by being burned by fire can one welcome a new life. Only by rising from the ashes can one be called a divine bird.
So in TD, the angels straight up partner with goddamn succubi?
>>565487305Angels are just light-aligned succubi after all.
>>565487586I don't know who that is but she has a look that says "I'm an idiot"
Angles SMART
>>565488287wow it's like real politics
>>565487305No. That's only one angel, specifically.And Myneto is an angel girl, not an angel.yes, there actually is a difference between "female angel" and "angel girl" in this setting. It's not like Kuromi's a murderwhore or something.
>>565487305they tricked them into imprisoning their own pope because they're too retarded to recognize their own religion's human leader who spoke with them daily and can't even comprehend asking questions for their orders, do you expect these guys to be smart????
When monster girls fight, do they "fight fight" or "sex fight"?
>>565493871depends on the settingand/or the girl(s)
>>565488287HATE BACK STABBING WHORES
>>565495909no, that's the rat girl
>>565496675>>565495909I thought sluggirls are back stabbing
>>565497512that'd be her sister
>>565495909
Paradox question. I'm stuck in the final dungeon. I cleared chaos and angel side, but I can't get through the first gate on monster side. I found these two switches and flipped them but the gate didn't open. Is there a third switch somewhere that I missed? I spent an hour wandering around and can't find it.
>>565499015Most switches are not on their own side so you should double check the other teams.
>the entire reason Kuromi decided to join in the first place was because Suzu, when trying to explain elections and politics to her, offhandedly mentioned a fringe schizo theory about how an election can potentially put someone in a position of great power over the world>Kuromi, having crippling brain damage no understanding on any of these concepts and great optimism, immediately just assumed that meant the election was for who gets to rule the world>Antimor doesn't like her so she just buddied up with Myneto since the two are friends of similar intellect and decided to help her become supreme world leader>And once Myneto becomes the great leader, then Kuromi will have the power, to->Take Muramuland Worldwide! And on it's site of origin, build a Super Muramuland!!!>Master begins screaming in outrage>Because "Muramuland" is a fucking bath-house brothel dressed up as an amusement park that Kuromi owns and designed SPECIFICALLY just for Master, and literally no other person, as in "I want all of the girls here to have naughty fun with him because we all love him"; and he has continuously ordered and eventually started to straight up demand it be demolished>Why would the angel girl agree to this?!?!>Isn't it fun! Apparently amusement park are great parto human culturah! Maybe one dayh, whe can have a Supah Heavenry Mulamurand in Heaven too! RET'S GO!>KUROMI, YOUR AMBITIONS ARE PUTTING THE HEAVENS IN DANGER!!!Also Suzu is seething a bit about how it's supposed to be an election and instead everyone just keeps beating the shit out of everyone until they agree to vote for them but that's kinda par for the course for her.
>>565499015what version are you on? there's a bug that rendered the game unwinnable in one version, but it should be fixed in the later ones.
>>565499015Worst case scenario, just run the game in test mode and noclip through the gate
>>565500118Yeah, I feel like I checked everything and cleared both stages.>>5655002713.06.00Hopefully that's the the bugged verison.>>565500895Didn't want to have to do that but I might.
>>565502931no it's supposed to be fixed in that, no idea what's going on then.
>>565502931>I feel like I checked everythingYou didn't. People have posted screenshots of the impossible gate and it isn't that one. You probably just missed some out of the way switch.
Evening /mggg/. The suggestion box is closed and the roster poll for our VGL26 divegrass team is now open! This is our biggest choice of options yet, we've even expanded it to have more non-MGQ players! The positions of the top 5 have also become more valuable since there was a change to the medal system for players, so it's now 1 gold, 2 silvers and 2 bronzes.You can vote here:https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSc3SeX8olesylBQmDWazyA7A7R3CTYFwOAI88Rjyi9ixWgkiw/viewform?usp=dialogThe poll will run for a few days, after which our work will begin. Make sure to vote while you can!
>unsurprisingly she wins because you're on her side>tells the angel good game, they hug since the two are still friends/co-workers back home>Vivi makes her give a victory speech>she mentions how she didn't want the title but she's grateful for all of her friends and the support of those who voted for her>"And for my shut-in excuse for a big sister, the one who went and nominated her little sister without asking, yet couldn't even be bothered to show her face here today.">"I have a gift for you!">is it the promised ass-whooping?>no, she thought of something better>She declares her first action is to appoint her "bastard of a sister" as her acting deputy on the island>And then her second is that her sister will be responsible for all of the legal/administrative work that arises>And if there isn't any work for her to do then she'll generate work herself>Master forgot that was the reason she wanted to win in the first placeDumbstor has nearly gotten him killed at least two times and worse also forced him to play a laggy Pokemon-GO-clone in a laboratory full of ridiculously dangerous experimental magic science robots entirely because she couldn't be assed to go outside one that had a loading time of over an hour and cut out during the boss fight, prompting him to just go back home and beat her up instead of spending 24 hours for another chance though so maybe she just needs the responsibility
Enjoy your paperwork, squeakor
>>565506002Mnmmm... no.
>>565499015Did you fight Adramelech in the Luka B room?
I’m looking for a game that some anon is developing but I forgot the name of it. The game is in this pixel style and one of the gifs he posted was of some pixel goblin chick, also I remember in the gif there was not any discernible facial features but the ass and the breasts I believe were emphasized
>>565499015I REMEMBER THIS!But I don't remember where the fuck it is.If I recall it's not a switch in Alice's route. I just wish I remembered where.I believe this is exactly what cost me like 2 hours of confusion.I remember giving advice like making sure you're not missing any teleports, but don't remember how many each route has.Your eventual teleports should be A1+2, B1+2+3, C1+2+3, and D1+2I believe I figured my issue out when recognizing I was missing one.
>>565499015>>565514308I'm actually a double idiot, those are just Luka's teleports.Luka has A12 B123 C123 D123Ilias has A12 B123 C123 D123Alice has A123 B123 C12 D123Basically Alice has 1 more A but 1 less CEither way make sure you've filled out the teleports on each route basically.
>>565514308>cost me like 2 hours of confusion.I remember being stuck at the final door for an entire day, scouring the entire place for switches, trying different saves, different versions, recompiling, the works. It certainly soured the finale for me a little. I was so angry. Although the relief when I finally fixed it was pretty sweet.If anyone else happens to get blocked by the notorious laser door, exit the dungeon and return. I think I reloaded a save several hours back, redid the whole place and just got lucky.
>>565514308>>565514907Thank you, that was the issue right there. Fuck Luka and his dad, you are my true hero, anon.
>>565506002>her hoodie has a little clip section so that she can fit it over her hornsthat's actually really cute wtf
>>565524880Glad I could help. Sorry the hype of the final dungeon got dragged down by that. Music's a vibe.
>>565505293Voted. If anyone is not sure which 23 characters to pick, consider voting for Lazarus please, tried to get him in last season to no avail.
Hmm nyo, I will always vote for more foxes, they are cute fluffy and trustworthy.
>>565526192I voted for Lazarus but he was neither my first nor last choice
>>565526985>and trustworthyDo not. They only see you as prey, no matter how nice they claim to be
>>565526985
>>565527354Wtf illias kitsune racism is alice's thing
>>565527951ILIAS has never liked those damn foxes even in the original trilogy. There's no way she was satisfied with the fact that one of the Six Ancestors was still walking the land even after being sealed.
>>565528283Foxes are evil but Succubi can be fixed!
PENIS is the PREY.
>>565528560Well there is one type of vore...
>>565528762I don't know any dickvore scenes and don't want to know any and shut the fuck up
>>565528971Lucky for you, this is a low-futa franchise, so you're safe for now.
>Don't touch the busty erotic succubus that has huge tits! DO NOT TOUCH HER! SHE WON'T BE UPSET AND WON'T STOP YOU, BUT DON'T DO IT!
>>565529241What's the worst that could happen?
>>565529304That's a normal human, so it's okay to touch her naked boobies while she's asleep.
>>565021462Will a Muni Kobo game ever get voice acting?
>>56552958662studio released an entire ASMR set with voice acting for Hatter and Nekomata. I bought it (with money). It's pretty cuteBut as for games, probably not....
>>565529967Picrel did voice announcements at some train placeShame it wasn't a Succu-Bus station
>No scene with Queen of Hearts and Bell's motherRip
>>565530320The HOP Founder said, in the HOP game where she is currently more immediately prominent compared to Demon in Wonderland (my recently developing and completely unironic suicidal tendencies have been staved off by the wait for more updates to the Demon in Wonderland postgame), that if Bell didn't catch that boy, she'd go after him herself, and she seriously meant it. It would be super fun to see a double-mama scene. The fact that Reto is almost certainly on that exact wavelength of submissiveness would make it even better, that would be a fun read>>565530079I'm sorry what
>>565530826Yeah apparently Alma's VA is/was a PA announcer in some subway area in Japan, thus the artwork
>>565527354This particular fox is but a misunderstood maiden with a pure heart.
>>565531003
>>565531003>pure>not angel>not goddess>not a good human girl like Alice>not an Alexi angel, who we all unconditionally love (if you don't like any Alexi angel then you don't belong here or anywhere)
>>565531373How could anyone not like these cuties?
>>565530993That info is probably way interesting for the autistic train lovers of Japan, and that's a real and VERY ENTHUSIASTIC subculture if you somehow don't know that already
>>565531436https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsRjQDrDnY8
>>565531608Those are all ordinary angle soldiers, anon.
>>565536049One of them seem a little too well rounded to belong to angle world....
>>565536434She's an ambassador from the Angler Soldiers.
>>565531373Someone should make a hasan edit with ilias shocking a dog girl.
>>565537631She'd never do that to wanko
>>565537739She would do it to tamamo maybe.
>>565528374So instead of dryfish she charcoals you now?Good job idiot
>Be magical boy, untouched by God's blessing>Get jumped on by every single monster on the road>Monsters have evolved bodyparts specifically for milking you to death>Learn nothing from it, insist coexistance is possible>Leave them all incapacitaded, not dead, to jump the next idiot who might NOT have angel powers, elementals, a magical sword or literal Satan teaching them moves.>kill God>now no one gets the "don't eat me" blessing>humanity gets coexisted into an all-you-can-eat buffet for monsters with 20 sets of breasts and onahole tentacles.Illyas did nothing wrong.
>>565545330just say no if a monster girl wants to milk you to death, they are legally obligated to stop without consent
>>565545330ILIAS wanted humans to experience human pussy, not monstrous murder pussy that even in Paradox has proven that people can gain horrible suicidal fetishes if they somehow survive the worst of the lewd shit that monsters can do to them>thou shalt not have intercourse with monstersWas a commandment literally there for your own protection, but nooooo you just HAVE to taste that instant-death murder pussy that kills you and turns you into a mummy because ooohhhhh it feels good aaaahhhh.Damn idiot humans. No wonder she was so eager to go on with the World Recreation Plan.
>>565545330just say yes if a monster girl wants to milk you to death, they don't rape perverts because it's no fun
>>565545330>>565545495Boys are so dumb. They could just stop monsters after one orgasm if they didn't like it, but they don't. So clearly, them being dryfished and vored is done with their consent.
>>565545495>>565545570hmmmmmmmmmm
>>565531373But what if she eats an angel girl? Then she can turn into the pure angel girl, memories and all. Bet you didn't think about that.
>>565545570Yeah, it's funny how Pornof is filled with people who'd love to get succ'd but even Morrigan is weirded out by that place and just left it alone. The biggest threat to it is fucking Sonya.
>>565545330>be a goddess with time warping powers>innumerable amounts of angels ready who serve you unquestionably.>zero logistical hurdles and global strike capability.>has an actually invincible army lead by experienced generals.>secured comprador agents within the hostile alliance, said compradors execute their palace coups perfectly.>loses the war anyway.>"hue, hue, I have a over the top plan that nobody could've saw! Now I am REAL Goddess!">gets bodied anyway.A girlfailure that should've been replaced with more competent leadership.
>>565545330https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/565491721/#565545117>pissliasfags are /hgg2d/ crossposters
>>565551842OH NONONO
>>565557080Awfully horny, woof?
>>565545602True!
>>565551842Archieveschizos are generally unpleasant people.You did nothing but post something irrelevant then shitpost Ilias hate as usual.
>>565530079Taking the train to Ikebukuro but instead the announcement says "next stop: Succubus Village"
>>565550058eh most monsters just want a normal dude or at least someone with some combat experience aka soldier/cleric/mage.Other than the vore monsters pretty much all of the monsters/angel/humans are turned off by that weird shit that the "people" in pornof are into aka scat/loli/panties and other degenerate shit.if given a choice any sane monster would choose a plain normal cleric instead some degenerate that want to eat literal shit.
>>565561650TrTr made Pornoff to show that you can defeat monsters at their own game, by being even more degenerate then them. Ilias' blessing isn't needed at all.
>>565561650>be more effective than the entire ilias religion with this one simple trick!>Angels hate it!
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/144257764https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/144257789Artist has now done Luka/Kanade kid. And, in keeping with what they did for the Erubetie kid (energetic young slime, not at all cold like the mother), is a rockstar or something. Interesting choice.>>565526985Isn't that Liru? Isn't she meant to be a wolf? I've heard of wolf in sheep's clothing, but this is the first I've heard of wolf in fox's clothing.
>>565564039It's probably because Kanade ends up trying to be a idol after she accepts losing her rulership.Her kid there probably takes up the mantle. Now we just have to wait and see what he does with the final neo Ancestor. Kanon is out, and it looks like Hiruko is too. I'm guessing he is going to make a female outside the original six be the mother of the last. Probably something like the daughter of B.Alice and Heinrich.
>>565564039Yes, she's a wolf. The game that screenshot is taken from is even called "Wolf Girl with You" in english.
>>565505293>>565526192>>565526985I agree. Total fox domination.
>>565558097>irrelevant>you just hate ilias!Choose a less retarded cope for "I don't like being called out as exactly what I am"that being a retard who probably didn't even read the story of the original game
>thenI love Dinosaurs! They're so cool!>nowI love Dinosaur Girls! They're so cute!
>>565531502autism and trains are one of the most common wide-spread jokes for autism, I don't think there's anyone here who wouldn't know that.although if there is a specific sub-set of japanese train autism that's somehow more noteworthy than your average run-of-the-mill train autism then it makes the whole scene with all the human girls autistically fawning over trains even funnier
>>565505293Thank you again anon, glad to see it. Curious how the team will turn out this time.As an aside because this is likely the only relevant time I'll have to bring this up, despite probably being the one who discusses MMTD the most I haven't suggested a girl from it to be on the team yet the past two polls because I thought it might come across as forced or 'unearned'.And then two months back, an anon from /vmg/ who was in charge of it's divegrass team came to the MMTD thread and asked if anyone wanted to suggest a girl for the team, and I asked for Okyuu, forgot about it, and then a week ago the anon return and announced that she actually succeeded in getting onto the team, which made my day that day. It was pretty based. But also seeing her in this line up is just incredibly funny to me in-of itself.
>>565578180Don't worry about things feeling "forced", the team exists for the thread's enjoyment. You only need to suggest it and it'll be on the poll, then the thread will decide.I have it on good authority the Hapy Life player will be getting a new model that looks like Reina because of one certain anon's persistence and dedication to his wife.
>>565545330Nice try Lazarus.
>>565566152*cums inside fox*Heh. That'll teach her.
>>565572731I've drawn a dino girl party member(stegosaurus, ankylosaurus and tricedratops forms), but the art turned up so bad that I replaced them with lamia variants. Which still look terrible.Then I gave earth magic necromancy spells and now I need a dino zombie as a capstone.
>>565581498Well now, that's very hapy news indeed. Thank you very much for letting me know anon!
>>565572983I know you probably said it when you originally went over it when going through the story, but who are the girls there? I assume the one with a crown is a princess or queen of some nation.I recognise Selen at this point obviously.
>>565586887For context, by this point Master and Co. have wound up in the nearby Magic Kingdom of Kar-Lu, a place renowned for having created great magical technology but now fallen from grace. Kar-Lu is currently in the midst of a three-way-political-war. The girls are the leaders.The red-haired girl is Eloise, the leader of the (dunderheaded) poacher trio who was a recurring antagonist for a time. After being forced to work minimum wage and suffering trauma for her constant failures she got the funds to return to her homeland, as she is one of the true rightful heirs to the royal line, and she takes control of one of the three political factions as the successor to the throne. She also clarifies that the reason for her poaching was to get funds to live comfortably until the civil war happened; she just didn't care about the illicit nature or victims and secures Master's help by saying she's already given it up and will use her position to help prevent poaching if she gets into power. The scientist is Noemi, who kidnapped Damstor because she's studying demons to fuel tech, she's the demon lord and tricked her into a contract to get easy fuel for her scientific developments. Her abuse of the power to create new magic tech for humanity ends up also summoning a ramshackle demon army that makes the angel situation even worse.The one with the crown is Usank III.She is dumb. She is obsessed with "subsidies". She just wants to grant herself endless subsidies; Eloise points out she's misusing the term. She claims she is also a rightful heir of the throne, descending from two former rulers. Eloise points out that the two people she claims to be descended from are both men.She also has a stupidly powerful magitek weapon that's one of my favorite bosses in the game.Japan hates the thing, but I think it's a skill issue.They all go to bat for Suzu that trains are real, and geek out over the ancient magical device.
>Leglocking>Fingerlocking>Toelocking (NEW)
>>565592889Magiteck is a funny thing in fictional worlds, especially if it can be mass produced. Something as simple as a bicycle changed our society in far wide reaching ways. But a bunch of giant autonomous robots don't even make a blip in some medieval styled fantasy setting.
>>565592889>Eloise points out that the two people she claims to be descended from are both men.You're saying that like it matters when there's magical genderbending lava the next door over. All it takes is an eruption and an unlucky ruler, or who knows what else can happen from byproducts of that lava.
Just finished Paradox. Absolute 10/10 of a game. Probably the most ambitious JRPG ever made. I clapped at the end when Chaos Goddess Black Alice showed up to help in the final fight.
>>565594395To be fair, it's noted that it CAN'T be mass produced; especially not anymore after the Magic Kingdom had so many of it's instillations destroyed by rivals.That's part of why they always make a big deal about the old tech. When the magic battleship shows up early on, Eloise starts to geek out about it's model number, saying she can tell it's a "second generation" because it has a depth gauge and pressure-resistant systems (so it can dive under the sea) but has no altimeter (as the third generation onward they figured out how to make them airborne). A first generation one also shows up buried in the desert as one of the optional bosses they made. Back then, it did have a lot of advancements that changed human society in incredible ways (returning to this is the scientist's goal for getting the throne), but the Kingdom was eventually dethroned and became a shell, and most of it's tech is now destroyed, inoperable or lost, hence why finding the train becomes a big deal. When King Aurum shows up in a later event, it's in an extreme state of disrepair and it's noted they're struggling to try and maintain it, because it is completely impossible for them to try and replace that thing.Although it's possible they showed it like that because they know a lot of japanese players hate it. Damstor bullying ramped up after hate for her became significant overseas too.IIRC it's implied the other human kingdoms viewed the nation as too dangerous and grouped together to cripple it, which is why it's in such a sorry state now.>>565596035anon you're forgetting Gespenst Island is, well, an island.All of the human kingdoms are on the main continent, miles and miles away. The reason they repaired the magic battleship in the first place is because they had no other way to actually get there when they needed to, and it took them over a month to make the trip.
>>565597753I think it's a great game too and congrats but that part was pretty hamfisted and retarded to be honest. you could cut it entirely and nothing would change.
>>565569327I'm not your bogeyman, archieveschizoYou're probably just the usual shitposter who flings shit everywhere and riles up AW vs MW stuffFurthermore, and this is gonna shock you, people are allowed to post in multiple places, and doing so does not lessen or invalidate anything they've posted in any of those places.But being a shit flinging monkey who seethes over Ilias does lessen (You).
https://x.com/project_iv_nNot sure what this is but apparently new game in a future a boy has go survive through robotical tyranny with a girl droid meant for disposal?
Would monster boys be weak to pussy?
>>565603349I wasn't even the one who posted the archive from hg in the first place lmao, you're seething at at least two different people. Also bold words coming from someone who's starting to enter poopdickschizo territory. You think it's schizo to assume one poster is another poster but then do that yourself?>shitposterthis sounds like massive projection coming from an "ilias wuz right" shitposter. yeah you're allowed to post in multiple places. we can still make fun of it. especially if what was double-posted is of poor quality.I'm sorry your waifu is a genocidal womanchild who probably hates you and everyone else here but you can just accept that she's not the good guy in the story, she stops pretending otherwise after a certain point anyway.
>>565603349oh no, we can't just le heckin' invalidate a posterino d00ds! that's not wholesome hug box big chungus enough!!
Oh brother
>>565604480Luka counts and yes he is
>>565569327>>565605614>badwriting schizo>/hgg2d/ retards>/tg/ retardsdunno why but ilias always attracts the most retarded and cancerous "people"
>>565608594There's nothing wrong with /tg/, which generally likes monster girls, that contributes to something like this on an inherent level.I understand the anons you are referring to, but I think it would be better to describe them as HFY fags because that's the specific behavior that drew ire and it's a problem on /tg/ as well.>dunno whyIlias is the "in" for people who don't like the setting or ideas and are into HFY/killing anything "bad", as Ilias is in favor of the first two and on paper supports the latter.I don't think Ilias and Emps have much in common, but if you look at her in the same light tourists look at Emps or the Imperium in, where they sand off all the flaws/problems because HFY and exacerbate the issues with the other factions, then I think the "why" starts to become more obvious. It's not different from retards who fundamentally miss the entire point of the IoM and just wholeheartedly think it's the good guy faction that isn't really that bad when the entire point is how much they've regressed and broken down into a terrible barely-functional shortsighted society. Chaos is terrible, but human groups routinely turn to chaos BECAUSE the Imperium is so needlessly cruel and brutal to it's own people, in addition to more selfish or evil reasons.
Illias is just hotter than AliceSnek girls are shit tier monster girls
>>565611628lamia nun is hotter than both of them
>>565611326the most annoying things about HFY fags is it tends to drown out more legitimate criticism or dislike about hard femdom. I don't want to slaughter all monster girls or anything but I do find it boring when the archetypal femdom woman are essentially better than humanity in every way and the guy being femdom'd is blubbering and pathetic. Shit, Luka is mostly fine about this these days as long as he's not being written in a sex scene. I want the big monster woman to dominate the guy but not just have them dominate the entire setting or make the guy pathetic if that makes sense, I suppose.
>>565597753Who did you give your promise ring to?
>>565611823>legitimate criticism or dislike about hard femdomnta but mgq is game mostly about that, idk why would you criticize a fetish game for having the fetish. there's plenty of vanilla monster girl games
>>565611823>. I don't want to slaughter all monster girls or anything bHave you tried it?
>>565611326I like how HFY shit likes to go into a gun nut rants, trying to jam as much descriptive adjectives to really hammer home how amazing guns are. Boring shitter writers who think anyone likes to read them wank off to themselves and their military knowledge..
>>565612595As opposed to how amazing tail pussy is?
>>565611823I think that's reasonably fair, but I think MGQ helps in that, outside of the sex scenes, it doesn't always come off that way, and it's more just descriptive of Luka's starting village and a few places around it. The main continent kingdoms have a very capable military and are shown in the original story and in Paradox to be competent at defending their homes, it's usually just the more cruel/domineering Monster Girls who come across that way, and as long as you aren't surrendering in every fight the setting doesn't look that bad.>>565611942NTA but I think the problem is best summarized as "this is a fantastic porn game, except the worst part of it is the porn". Great setting, fun story, a lot of the girls are great, etc, but the porn is just very badly written, even in japan Luka's AIEEEE is a meme.
>>565608594>dunno why but ilias always attracts the most retarded and cancerous "people"You've not seen the Fire Emblem General, with a guy who posts gore and scat, and a guy who would commission stuff of girls with extremely oversized tits, and then post thumbnail sized art of those commissions, trying to rub into peoples faces that they would never get the full art.I'm sure other generals also have their crazies, the poopdickschizo meme pic is a thing for a reason, but trust me, you might feel this place is bad sometimes, but it could be a whole hell of a lot worse.
>>565613890MGQ is honestly one of the better examples these days, but I think a lot of that is due to the fetish aspect of the setting having had increasingly taking a back seat. The more the femdom is emphasized the worse this is to me. I do understand that not every monster girl game is femdom, but pretty much every monster girl game that's femdom is full on AIEEEEE, is my point. Sequel is kind of okay about it though.
>>565611823Paradox quite literally gives gun nuts what they always wanted. Guns are now starting to overflow into the wider world, many of them being mass produced by the four nations, and even new, unique classes of warriors were created around their handling and maintenance.But, like all fantasy setting that want to keep the sword and magic thing, guns are only their for flavor, and never involved in the narrative. In this case, medieval castles still are a thing, the guards are still using spears or something, and those guns and cannons don't get involved.
>>565614893>In this case, medieval castles still are a thing, the guards are still using spears or something, and those guns and cannons don't get involved.Ye but there's also robots walking around and eventually the nuke
>>565611923Sadly I could not give the ring to my daughterwife Mini, so I settled for giving it to Chrome.
>>565614893castles can defend from guns, and it's pointed out a lot of people can't really afford them either. the whole '90% of people only master tier one jobs' factors into this. plus it's easier to maintain magic martial equipment and even though guns exist, they just ain't the shit in this setting due to, well, magic being a thing. even as a job, gunner isn't as powerful as others, and the stronger technology, machina, requires Luka to go around collecting it, which explains why only he seems to have it. It factors into the narrative a lot for San Ilia, but that's because that's the central place focused on tech advancements, and they actually did host a bunch of cannons and stuff on their castle as defense systems, including the one they developed that snipes El out of the army and lets you beat her up.They're just not that impressive comparatively, at least not to machina.
>>565614893Also spaceships and nuclear missile barrages.
>>565615284nta but>MiniShe's just precious, a great and respectable choice.I refused to give the ring to anyone who wasn't my wife so it's still in my inventory, but I understand if you just want at least one of the boons from it.
>>565615418that last one didn't go quite so well
>>565615703that's because they didnt have nuclear booster gems
>Anon lived in an area where rape was common >He spent everyday on edge worried he might be next, even in this so called post coexistence world>One day whiles praying to Illias, Anon began to beg her to save him from rape>That night an Angel visited him and told him that the safest place to avoid rape was right under the monsters nose, >So he moved to an area full of succubi known for having a taste for little boys and stunning their growth, >At first anon was worried, but after a few weeks when he noticed that the Succubi were kind to him and but considered him 'too old' and weren't interested sexually, >His plan was worked better than he had ever thought. >He thought to himself "I can live in peace and protect my purity." >But one day as Anon was walking through the street, he passed by the nearby school yard>He saw the Children running and playing with smiles on their faces>All except one little monster sitting by herself >She had beautiful blue skin, with black sclera and piercing red eyes>Even with as young as she was, her horns were already growing in and she had an essence of power surrounding her>Be that as it may Anon and his pure heart had to know if she was okay and approached her>The girl noticed Anon's shadow over her, she noticed how tall he was, taller than her mother, and certainly far taller than her father>She stared continued to stare at him until anon was forced to introduce himself>He wanted to know why she was by herself reading>The girl declared as she held her grimoire that she was going to be the future Demon Lord, >The blood of legendary Succubi flowed in her veins>The sudden release of power was enough to cause the kids and teachers to run away>But anon didn't flinch >She then looked at him and declared that he will be her servant and would be paid handsomely >Anon took the job since it was a lot of money but worried>She said not to worry, she couldn't even if she wanted too
>>565615330Guns are magical in MGQ too.They shoot elemental ammo, get replacement magically enhanced parts, and magic stones get integrated into them. They even get blessed, and gain the holy affinity without Ilias' help.
>>565616289>That night an Angel visited himI thought that was gonna go another way
>>565616289>For the next few years>He would pick her up to help her reach high places>He would get things from her on the top shelves>She grew to appreciate anon, for how unique he was and how capable he was>Her power also grew greater until not ever her parents could be around her for long>Anon saw this and invited her to stay with him as he had no fear>She declared that soon she would leave to challenge the demon lord>One day as anon was getting ready to go to bed and decided to pray>He thanked Illias for helping him, well he then saw a familiar face of the Angel who helped him years ago>Anon thanked her and told her how right she was, he was so happy that there was no rape like she said>The Angel laughed and told him, she never said there would be no rape>She explained to him that rape was coming soon and rape would save the world and preserve the peace as she ready her bow>Anon screamed in horror>His little mistress heard his scream and ran to him, only to see the angel then turn to aim at her and fire>Anon didn't hesitate to dive in the way as the arrow struck his heart >The Angel let out a joyful laugh as she flew away>The demon girl enraged at what happened declared that heaven and hell would fall>She stood over anon, and reached for the arrow>She saw that it didn't kill him and for that was grateful>In fact he started to seem like he was vibrating >Before she realized what was happening, He was upon her>And within a few moments her innocence was taken >At that moment something switched in her>Suddenly new feelings exploded in her >She tried to tell him to stop >but he would not listen>She tried to stop him, >but her body would not listen>After many hours anon finally woke up>He saw what he had done to her>He begged her for forgiveness and would accept any punishment
>>565616472>>565616289>She stared at him>She told him her dreams died that day>She said to him, that he is now a father and he will take responsibility >She jumped him as moans were heard >The Angel stood away smiling, the potential demon lord had been stopped>Illias would be happy, peace preserved and now she could go back home to her husband and use her favorite love arrow on him >She started to blush and squirm her heart pupils already seeing herself back home doing the same>Because as every cupid knows, that rape can be the answer to many questions whether it be how to keep peace or how to stop a demon lordThe End
Every night before I go to sleep I pray to Ilias that she isekai's every /mggg/ poster to MGQ world and feeds them to Hiruko.
>>565616346they are magic too (can also get dark without outside help as well) but that's basically every weapon.they're good, they just aren't going to dominate or cause huge shifts in this setting by virtue of how the setting already is. although I don't think that's much consolation to the guys who get mowed down by trooperoid fire in AW.I honestly can't remember if anything in MW used a gun.
>>565618128prayers for evil and wicked things are inevitably thrown back onto the one who wished for them
>>565618128>feeds them to HirukoMy wife, Eden, will save me from the leech.
>>565618128Hiruko is cute but can I at least be with my wife, Doppel,. First, please?
>>565618314>I honestly can't remember if anything in MW used a gun.Cait Sith, Monster Train, and Elite Pirate Mermaid. Bomb Slime also has levels in gunner jobs as the only MW character with that but no guns in her trait.
>>565619623ok well then it also wouldn't help consolate anyone who got gunned down by the mermaid pirates; cait sith i know ambushes people and tag-team-rapes them with that other freaky xelvy robo kitsune thing
>>565618314The big advantage with guns is they are easy to equip anyone with, and have them be competent in using them after a short amount training, something bows and swords can't do.But this universe does play with a RPG class mechanic that is part of the greater narrative, and not just a gameplay thing.
>>565605614>I wasn't even the one who posted the archive from hg in the first placeThen what the fuck did you reply and argue for?>>565606057I rest my case.
>>565621473I already told you why.Because you're a histrionic retard, and I will make fun of you for it.It's not that hard.
>'I am Pazuzu; for the upcoming comedy club, I want to dance'>"Hey Pazuzu, can you not dance? Your dance creates calamity.">'I have been dancing for three days straight'>Suddenly every human kingdom invades at once, the primal monsters break out of the Labrynth, half the population goes insane, the macho demons warp in, the cursed halloween spirit frees itself again, and the ship girl reverts into a corrupted vessel>"'Master we're fucked"'>"ASSEMBLE THE ISLAND"This event was fun
Pumpkin is about to open commissions again. Which idea should I send in? 1 - Magical Girl Granberia tricks Koron into joining her as a Magical Girl. Koron drags Granberia into challenging Luka with chuuni enthusiasm while Granberia is in tears of embarrassment even while they rape Luka. 2 - Shikibus Prime x Luka3 - Echidna (Granblue) mommy domming Gran after being flirted with4 - Venefica wedding sex
>>565559336I want this to happen to (Me)
>>565631161harpy hugs
>>565631161>mommy domming GranMake it Alec (fire and lightning shota) and make Alec slightly unwilling on the surface but not exactly resisting either (this would be only slightly out of line with his canon behavior)>Shikibus Prime x LukaThis is a peak idea too, since Luka at the absolute end of part 3 could probably survive her too
>>565545330you know illias also tried to genocide human right the best thing for human in that setting to somehow just make chaos deleted everything and start over with actual decent enity
reading warhammer fantasy beastman lore right before sleep get nightmare where they rape and eat me alive while am painfully still conscious
>>565633763Vore is only fun when it feels good.
>>5656311611 is best
My rights
For how cute MMTD Master Shota is, it's odd that he ended up becoming a Violence Shota....
>>5656311611 or 3
>>565636664He remembers his training
>>565636664A quick way to estabilish he draws a line is by making him rip off the dick of an incubus.Like damn. I know my fair share of protagonists that would still get raped. This dude knows what he wants and what he doesn't.
>>565639945That and his overwhelming desire to "Be a Man" and make all the Monster Girls see him as a strong, masculine, equal figure worthy of love and respect who can fight alongside them despite him being a five-foot-baby face who can barely lift a rock and has such radiant 'shotaenergy' that he's immune to curses and can exorcise demons due to how overwhelmingly cute and pure he looks is probably the most based thing about him. He's basically a male version of Whityel.And unironically more masculine than Luka, which is made doubly funny by the fact Luka's both taller and far stronger and eventually just stops looking like a shota altogether.This lil' guy.I love this guy.
he'd definitely just assume the position
>>565638330>>565641040So I've reached chapter 6. And this Elf Archer Girl is apparently a poacher?How does that work? Shouldn't she be on the same side as the rest of the monster girls? She seemed to lack general knowledge of the area but I chalked it up to being inside a labyrinth
>>565643181>Kuromi nearly got shot in the face because she wanted to get her to join her folk dancekekI brought up the elves once, but (because I'm just going to copy/paste my original explanation from when someone asked me about the laughing archer) the long and short of it is:>Female Elf Archer>There's both Elves and Dark Elves; Elves are just High Elves (magical prowess + extreme sense of superiority) + Wood Elves (nature affinity + reclusiveness)>Their colony lives alone on a completely different island in it's wilderness away from all the other monster girls>Thus Elves are still monster girls but they refuse to consider themselves as such due to their smug belief they're better than everyone else>They're also obsessed with their genetic purity and banned all interracial love/sex in order to preserve the sanctity of their bloodline>The Archer was banished by the Chieftan (her mom) over it>No, you can't recruit herThey likely called her "poacher" because to the Monster Girls, well, that's really just what it looks like she's doing and they wouldn't know any different. She's mostly hunting them out of pride, hence her claiming she's going to taxidermy your party the next time she meets you instead of talking about profit or anything. which is what leads to "Orc A" apparently asking her to play card games or something with him I skipped over that part but I'm sure it was properly boring and not-at-all sex related.
>>565643181>>565644387The Dark Elves were also enemies at one point to be fair but only a small subfaction of them led by a mega chunni and she gets put her in her place by her older sister
>>565641220mfw my slug wife anally impregnates me
>>565644387>>Their colony lives alone on a completely different island in it's wilderness away from all the other monster girlsOh yeah they mentioned multiple islands in the vicinity vying for power. Makes sense there would be other monster girl islands then.
>>565618128Pray for me specifically anon, I'm ready
>>565645413In addition to the elf island, there's also another (iirc unnamed) island somewhat close by that the group pass by on the trip to the mainland and is the center of it's own event chain (ending with the one where Fermi tells her NEET slob sister of a harpy queen to get a job or else she's getting disowned) and Yokai Island (spoiler: yokai live here).
>>565597753You know, one thing that kind of bugged me about 3 was how badly Goddess Black Alice was treated. In the second game she had one of the craziest moments in the entire franchise, when she was talking to Luka and White Rabbit in the past and even White Rabbit was freaking out, but then in Part 3 she just got clowned on the whole time to the point where at the end she literally calls herself a clown before fucking off.She deserved better.
>>565649341The general realization of being a "Fake Chaos Goddess" probably took its toll on her offscreen. I think, after she woke up from her power high, she started to realize that she wasn't anywhere near the big fish she thought she was, and this was ironically after damn near hitting the top of the food chain.
>>565641040Nah, this guy gets fucked in the ass more times than Luka, and judging by his expressions, he enjoys it more.
>>565656731>he enjoys it moreIt's entirely possible that the version of Luka who made the Beelzebub daughters SURRENDERED instead of being beaten, though.....
I played Fairy Rescue because I'd love a monstergirl h-shmup, but it turned out to be kind of disappointing. Most of the H is human women CGs and the gameplay could use lots of improvement, for example being able to actually see my hitbox would definitely help in hard mode.The upgrade mechanic also felt somewhat grindy. A shame, because I thought the visuals were at least pretty, especially the deep jellyfish stage.>>5656311612.
They’re like animals and I slaughtered them like animals.
>>565658678Speaking of shmups, that got me thinking. Could Touhou be considered the most popular monster girl series ever created?
>>565661564no thats the bible
They’re like animals and I patted them like animals.
>>565649341You're shitting me.
>>565505293Blender anon here to remind you guys to vote for your favourites.>>565578180I wanted to suggest a MMTD girl but I don't have nearly enough experience with the game to pick. Next time, please suggest your favourite girl, I'm sure she will make it in. /mggg/ needs some new faces, and as much as I love MGQ, I think we could use girls from different games too.
>>565664674> I think we could use girls from different games too.Not many options>the kemono fox from youmaen>lampas from shriftThat's about the only girls that regularly show up in thread. Especially since sequel and black souls died off. Aside from that, yeah, it's just gacha. Not many other games get mentioned. Monster girls and the mysterious adventure, sometimes.
>>565665035I haven't seen anyone talk about Pizza Guy himself in months, if not years, and most Dodo I see is in that drawing of her, the caterpillar and the golden chick containing a sound file.How much the character's talked about isn't that important to the team.MGD has plenty of girls for one, and so does the Succubus Mama game.
>>565666153>>565665035I think, as long as the game is about monster girls and has been talked about here it's fair game. It's quite obvious that the thread's conversation is mostly about MGQ since it's still ongoing.At the end of the day, it costs nothing to suggest a girl, if people want to see her play, she'll get votes, if not, she won't.
>>565666153>How much the character's talked about isn't that important to the team.It is, however, pretty important to what anons think to suggest adding.
>>565578180Still me, I just realised nigga used a cardhead for okyuu. No can do. No monster girl deserves such disrespect!!
>>565665035>Especially since sequel and black souls died off.I stopped talking about it much, since an anon used to get mad and sometimes try to derail the thread.
Foxes wonnered bigly
>>565680337Do they think BS is not a game about monster girls?
>>565683080I don't want to restart this, but no. He started trying to rules lawyer and speak about all of these dumb reasons why it wasn't and such, but other games he liked were. He hated all mention about Sequel and Black Souls
>>565683448i mean by all accounts if you want one thats actually arguable about not being a monster girl game Saya No uta Because its all mental illness and its a girl monster not a monster girl and shes the only girl monster there for a longass while. Even though you could make arguements for either side here.
>>565683967But at the same time, Would that not be like Hiruko? And I'm kinda biased since I love things like that as well
>>565681369<---Their prize!~<---
>>565683967Then Black Souls 2 is just as arguable since the girls look like cute girls because you're crazy.
>>565656731literally impossible; Luka is THE bottomist bitchMaster's genuine disdain for Tantal in the latest main story chapter cracks me up though lmao
>>565661564Depending on how autistic you are about your definition of monster girl, possibly. Pokemon and MLP could probably be the runner-ups.
>>565691031those have their own containment boards for a reason
>>565691031My definition of a monster girl is one who scares me stiff
>>565664674>>565664674Unfathomably based, thank you anon that's simply awesome of you. Okyuu looks perfect!And that's a fair line of reasoning, I guess I was just hesitant since there's a couple of anons who seem generally opposed to non-MGQ discussion. Maybe I'll ask for Okyuu on the team next time, too. But I'll suggest a couple of the other girls from MMTD as well in order to be fair. And maybe even Master, because it would just be funny.Vivi is the mascot of it so she feels like an obligatory suggestion (Okyuu is still my favorite) and besides that I guess I'd probably suggest Suzu because she seems to be the girl who's made the biggest impact on this thread and is just memorable in-of herself. There's an anon playing through Chapter Six at the moment and Suzu's dry commentary throughout it is hilarious.>>565666153Pizza Guy isn't just a man, he's an icon. You say the name and you know immediately who he is and what he represents. Glad he got saved by Luka and lives to deliver another day.>>565680337>>565683080>>565683448If I'm thinking of the anon you're referring to I believe he's probably behaving in that way due to the SEQUELfag, which was (iirc) a shitposter who went to both this general and the SEQUEL games general in order to shitpost and stir things up in an attempt to get the two threads to fight each other, although I admit I don't really remember why he actually did that beyond him either feeling spiteful for some reason or just being bored and finding it funny, maybe both. During the MMTD crossover I ended up learning that there's still a handful of SEQUEL anons there who hate MGQ's fanbase as well, which seemed to be because of this guy's actions. They were very cordial to me at least.Apparently there is only a singular Harpy in one of the games, and she looked neat, but I guess I just never got around to trying it although Nazuna is still hysterical and I'm glad I actually know who she is now.
>>565692942>I'll suggest her next timeI bullied manager-nim to add her to the poll since I made the model on a whim. But feel free to suggest more girls from the game next time. I'm also thinking of picking it up myself, the only thing really raping me is DMM.
I have spent the last week and a half plaything through the venus blood series instead of continuing my paradox playthrough. I like srpgs and it looked interesting so i did that, it has some girls of monster varity though a lot of them are pretty basic with monster wings or horns on an otherwise human body, though there are some like the slime grills in hollow. Anyways I would reccomend the series only if your into heavy maledom and tentacles and corruption. The games are split between law(less scummy) and chaos(extra scummy)routes, the only one I would say is worth a try if you want the protagonist to be less of a scumbag rapist would be the law route in HOLLOW, where syliva heavily carries it as its representive and focused heroine who is far more developed writing wise than previous VB main heroines who where mostly just excuses to be the first pure girl to corrupt. Frontier is a heavily corruption focused game and you get nothing for not corrupting the girls, the corruption in gaia largely serves as a gameplay function to produce more units and law theofrad will still do whatever it takes to (tentacle rape) get the girls to agree to his "birth my homunculus army" plan. HOLLOW is the only one with a satsfying route for refraining from corrupting the girls and gaining affection and h-scenes through friendship events instead. The srpg aspect of the series is fine, gaia kinda sucks but they have a lot of additional difficulty modes with new game plus. i would reccomend starting on easy if you play frontier or gaia and normal for hollow
>>565692942>If I'm thinking of the anon you're referring to I believe he's probably behaving in that way due to the SEQUELfag, which was (iirc) a shitposter who went to both this general and the SEQUEL games general in order to shitpost and stir things up in an attempt to get the two threads to fight each other, although I admit I don't really remember why he actually did that beyond him either feeling spiteful for some reason or just being bored and finding it funny, maybe both.That's literally why the guy said he did it, he openly bragged about it and said how he used to easily get the anon riled up.
>>565698535can confirm, venus blood hollow is peak and good route isnt shit
>>565696002kekredid the response to put in a vote for her (and also Lazarus because I think I forgot him the first time too), thanks anon.and yeah DMM's a pain it's totally understandable. I managed to figure out the browser trick to play it on the browser without a VPN thankfully (although it is untranslated and there's no luna+bep combo to help on that version), and since the 4th anniversary's going on they gave out a medal that lets you trade it in for one girl (from launch to early 2024 from what I can tell) of your choice, which I decided to use to pull the Phoenix Girl after Okyuu fished up the Scylla Girl for me so I was able to finally have all the girls I wanted >>565624540Which, now that I think of it, is funny in hindsight because during event where Atheel was trying to become the island's idol representative the Beast God of Idols interrupted the concert to attack with her own hand-chosen Idol Group, which was led by Okyuu and Tia and includes Lucure and Lyupche (Kraken/Siren/Scylla/Charybdis), which Okyuu and Tia had been trying to get together in a previous event, with the added reveal that they finally settled on a group name, the Sea Monster Sisters (which was the one Okyuu had wanted). And during the first time their idol group showed up, Fermi and the other Harpies were also present too.>>565698945In my defense it has been literal years and I really don't give that guy any thought at all. I just vaguely remembered thinking it was that, and I guess it was.That anon really shouldn't let him live rent free in his head though, it does more harm than good and just plays into what he wanted in the first place, which was to derail threads into flamewars for kicks.
>>565691031Generic talking animals shouldn't count as monster girls, and if we do MLP is nowhere near as successful once we start making exceptions for Sanrio or Disney shit.
Ideal height for monster girls?Short enough to give you the cutesy upward_look, but not shorter than kissing when standing on her tiptoes.
>>565704017as tall as a planet
>>565704017She looks like she can fuck two men at the same time.
>>565704017Either as big as my dick or big enough to suck my cock and balls at the same time
>>565704017Either so tall she needs to bend to cross your average door frame (but with a feminine built) or so short she can still wear kids' clothes.
>>565704017what if they can change their size?
>>565705659>monster girls can change their sizeI sleep.>monster girls can change my "size"I wake.
>>565706089>monster girls can change my "size"All monsters girls can do that
>>565706509
>>565706861magical mari-chan does it to you during the time loop, and she's a human (magical) girl
It is Golden Week, my dudes.>>565698535Venus blood, after Frontier at least (was earlier and so has a smaller roster, even then there's still a few) does at least have many monster girl (and hell, quite a few monster dudes, as well as just plain monsters) units. Even if the standard recruitable units arn't story characters with scenes. Though, that reminds me, Gaia has a harpy girl (the type who has arms and wings making her have a strong resemblance to an angel) plot recruit, who is called... Lucretia. Same as Queen Harpies name in paradox. Just an amusing coincidence. She likes money.
>>565708920Yeah, she's one of the more memorable characters because she doesn't lose her all of her personality after taking tentacock. One of the events is her crying in her bedroom and theofrads like "ah shit she's crying because i'm making her concive testtube babys" she was actually crying because being pregnant hurt her bottom line
When did (YOU) fall in love with monster girls?for me it was probably around the 2010s because of Digimon
>>565716496Me too, anon, me too. Gateway anime was a hell of a drug back then.
>>565716496When I realized that drawing clothing is too hard and that my wizard will never be competitive with e.g. a Final Fantasy Black Mage. Monster girls don't need clothing and there's less competition. For half the monsters I'm probably the only one that's ever drawn a monster girl version.
>>565716496I'd say the legend of Zelda, but even before that I loved faery tails that my parents told me
>>565716496I think i gravitated towards monster grills because i've always been an avid fantasy reader as a kid,lotr was my go to series that i read front to back in middle school, and my taste in women has been ruined ever since that time i read the wrinkle in time sequel with the twins in the biblical noah arc times where one of the girls lays it on really thick with one of the twins in an attempt to seducd him at the behest of her fallen angel bf-ultimately she fails because half the time she's flirting with the wrong twin because nobody can tell them apart and the twins both develop feelings for this angel girl but man, if i was sandy i don't think i'd be able to resist the redhead biblical equivalent of a gyaru coming onto me like he does. Another thing that got me more into the appearance side of monster girls is that i like how varied and unique their designs can be, obviously theres still stuff that looks interchangable/uninspired like slapping neco ears and a tail on a girl and calling it a day, but theres a lot of unique designs out there as well.
Has dreams done anything significent since the introduction quest to the two dragon ladies,the shortstack and the politician I can't remember their names, i only remember their scenes being size dominance for the shortstack and cowgirl rape for the politician's familiar painting if you fail the riddle
>>565729253I'll be honest i don't think its ever getting past the city
>>565729583Cities are big places.
>>565729674Not in vidya.Cities tend to only be a few squares bigger than a typical village in the middle of nowhere.
>>565729583What happened to Threshold? There was a time he was doing good and kept pumping content even if he didn't have the art for it. He made the entire Kotone hypnosis quest before he had her sprite. It felt like a passion project.
>>565618128I pray the tartarus opens and our world is blessed by Shikis
>>565732452tamamo is already free and look at what's happening around the world
>>565730942>>565730942that's what happened, he lost his passion when people started shitting on his waifu for the shit she did and how the game makes us feel bad for rejecting her for it, then he started making a lot of money of pateron and realized he could just keep dragging it out, for example, he's already gotten the work done for several characters only just now appearing from various artists, the dragon girl shortstack for example has had her artwork completed for about 2 years before she was finally added to the game proper, the same goes for Erina's new art, naked Eily is in the files and a few CGIs namely Kotone's too, the black knight, the other 2 demon queen's servants that aren't the oni twins and Sophia also have art, people also suspect that the naked lillian cgis that were in the game on launch were actually for her guardian angel who we can't see as she looks older, more curvy and a more mature expression, if I were to compare it to something I'd compare it to Paradox where there are cgis of a blushing Koron in the files along with a Koron without her massive tail and wings on her. TrTr is the exact same, the monster girl quest franchise is the only profitable thing that person has done, they want to branch out to other projects but they still need an income and a relaiablle one so rather than end paradox's story he instead chose to leave hanging fruit with a new route, a long light novel series, apparently he's up to 18 volumes prewritten already AND other whoring it out to a gacha game, through that game seems to be moving away from collabs as the in story hasn't featured luka nor the sequel characters in any capasity in about a year. Just goes to show you that wheneve something goes shitty money is always at the root of the cause be it because someone doesn't have enough or because they have too much and want more either way $$$$ rules all no matter what everywhere.
>>565732572That's clearly because we haven't freed enough Shikis yet.
>>565732572my wife would never do that!
>>565732761I feel like that would cause smt1 level of apocalypse and nukes would drop
>>565733074Naaaaah, humans will all submit to the Shikis and the world order will be upended in service to Shikis.Breeding farms, Dryfish livestreams, all human conflict will disappear!
>>565733579I single nuke killed Kanade, the hardest to kill Ancestor of the lot. TrTr has made it clear that anything below Goddess level will get wiped out, and even someone like Ilias and Fat Alice aren't going to be having a good time getting hit by something like that.
>>565732614I honestly don't agree with you lumping trtr in with that guy; trtr clearly has a shitload of passion for what he does, the guy was trying to make "NG++" into a very minimum victory lap with modest changes and ended up turning it into a fourth route on top of his novel getting constantly bigger because he has ever more things he wants to add to it and him showing off upcoming characters and new designs like the Nephilim+Giganto Weapon Hybrid and the Super Angolmois Elf Princess. People voted for the game to come out early with only the bare basic main story finished, and that's exactly what he did, so that's not on him.Threshold in comparison just had all his passion and interest shrivel up and die when he realized everyone hated his favorite girl and he basically stopped working on the thing altogether and just drags it out for money.
>>565734142I don't think you understand what he said.Humanity will WILLINGLY submit to Shikis. There's no throwing nukes in this scenario.
>>565734142>seduces world leaders into nuking problematic threats to the shiki world order
>>565734440Venefica, the balance update and the Labyrinth came after Kotone and complaints about the hypnosis yet were equally passionate, to the point the last one was essentially what killed the pace of updates because he had to spend so much time making a dungeon crawling minigame in Ren'Py and by God he would have it made no matter what, and the game never recovered from that.
>>565734480It really depends if everyone gets unsealed at same time and if shikis existing means angels exist
>>565732614>person a never works on project and craps out an update every blue moon with assets done for several years>person b works on several projects simultaneously and gives regular progress updates>this is the same thing apparentlyalso I don't think there's anything cynical about that gacha collab, from what's been posted of it the devs seem to clearly be huge MGQ fans so they probably asked him to do one
>>565689853not entirely leaf is cthulhu's aunty and actually molds herself to look like that but also this is a case of the reverse of saya as well cuz its the monster being so mentally unwell she appears as a mass of faceless girls. though i will say that leaf is more of a monster than a girl so i guess we lose her.. also she's your mom.. and the entire series including the first game is incest once you realise the damn fairy tales are technically your kids as well. By all accounts the faceless god is a monster girl. whereas saya without the mental illness no girls heck iirc saya literally raped a girl with a dick looking thing she had.. once the mentall illness goes away for grimm see tco as a bunch of fucked up malformed girls.. once the mental illness is off for fuminori saya is this slimy fucked up thing that we barely see but its not a girl.
>>565734465>willinglynope. we will be protected by our monster girl wives.
>>565734808Actually, the biggest hurdle for any monster coming here is the lack of mana. White Rabbit makes it clear there is zero mana in this universe, so beings that require it to function or do any spell is out of luck.
>>565734808>if shikis existing means angels existIt's all Shikis?Always was.
>>565735067couldn't they turn people into mana
>>565735270shikillias would absolutely take over america and nuke japan
Jokes on you, my job sucked my soul out years ago
>>565735281Humans of this universe probably have no mana either. This universe is especially unique as far as we know, it might have been the only time humans naturally come into existence, while they were created by some god like being in the other eight universes.TrTr just drops these massive lore bits, but never follows through on them. Just some interesting fluff and nothing more.
>>565732614This reminds me of the ending of the VN funnily enough where it ends with luka and alice embarking on a new adventure and that this isn't the end for mgq.... and time has been paused there ever since because paradox has taken so long
>>565736583The collabs that VN Luka and gang show up in seem to be canon, as they have revealed information that Paradox never did. TrTr seems to be using them to fill in between the two games.
>>565737113like what? Alice should be pregnant right now yet she isn't
>>565545536>ILIAS wanted humans to experience human pussy>war still happensHow?
>>565740919Those commandments are not new. They are a bi-product of a systematic purge of culture, magic/scientific knowledge, and history after Ilias won the GMW.Ilias created humans to be ruled over by herself and her sister. You think she originally gave a fuck if some of her hairless apes got turned into sex slaves by her nieces and their kin?
>>565742083Im guessing you mean the commandments are not old, as they would have only shown up 1000 years or closer to the point when Luka started his adventure. But yeah, Ilias really wanted humans to worship and be guided by the mother of all monsters along side her. She was likely okay with monster sex as long as the humans and monsters knew their place.
>>565740230It's not explained how long after it takes place, but for the first one at least, it happened because they built a multi-dimensional teleportation device and were trying to test it, and the reason they keep going back is because they hate the excessive workload both of them got saddled with and just take breaks to have a vacation there. It's possible Alice already had the kids, and the device they created might be how Nero and Neris got to the singularity world.They also run into Adramelech in the first one with no idea who she is and are blindsided by chaos and apoptosis, but in the third one, Luka knows who Sonya Chaos is but admits he's "not sure how to explain (her)", and further clarifies during his descriptor that both he and Alice were under the impression she had already been defeated, either "dead" (Ilias Route) or dormant (Alice Route). Singularity!Luka is the only one who knows the truth about Sonya, and also the only Luka with such a strong personal connection to her, which is why the original Luka doesn't view her in the same way, but does still feel bad for her due to the circumstances behind the boss fight with her at the end of part two. His information on her comes mostly from Nero's status reports, and it's likely that the confrontation with Adramelech along with Nero and Neris's prophetic dreams is what caused his world to become aware of the dangers of chaos and start trying to help.
>>565611326>Ilias is the "in" for people who don't like the setting or ideas and are into HFY/killing anything "bad", as Ilias is in favor of the first two and on paper supports the latter.At every point in the VN before Part 3, she seems like one of the only sane characters around. Her beliefs and actions align and they're justified by the setting. Even if she's shown to be a villain in part 3, every argument made for her (or Lazarus) holds up using the information we had.Luka doesn't ever stop being a warlord, even in Paradox. He just stops trying to justify it and the other characters all start agreeing with him instead because he's the living fulfilment of the setting's only real ideology: Strunkism.
Toro should be dry fished irl for giving luka a soul sucking 9 to 5 life whever he never sees his wife or kids
>>565734480where can you see more shiki stuff since kemono been dead for 2 month
>>565744432Its what Luka deserves and wants since he's a turbo masochist. He's in heaven
>>565744093>Her beliefs and actions alignThey do not>They're justified by the settingIn 90% of cases they're really, REALLY not, and Ilias herself as well as her own creations do just as bad if not far worse than any monster girl around. Also Lazarus bombed children's schools and nearly murdered human kids, and he blamed monsters as a whole for the reaction Alice had to walking in to find that they killed her mother, because Alice attacked and killed Merlin and Karen in retribution.>Luka warlordThat's only ever true in Paradox, not in the VN.Of particular note is VN!Luka does stop having the "save everyone" mindset, he's willing to kill Cassandra before Alice steps in, and he commits to killing the three world-ending threats and succeeds. And instead of just letting the dangerous sealed monsters go because they're sealed he has them placed in captivity or under watch.>>565744432If it's any consolation he and Alice routinely sneak out to take trips to foreign islands and ended up getting in trouble because they were doing this so much.
I hate it when ironic memes start being taken seriously by retards
>>565745631Turns out ironic retardation is still retardation.
>>565745505>ending mg reproduction through divinely-enforced inceldomvs>locking down a continent over an assisted suicide>enforcing an ideology of tolerance with extremely localized violent episodes>checking off your bucket list in preparation for your impending suicide Ilias wins this one.>terrorist activityThat really is how this sort of thing happens. Kids get hurt, extremists start talking, and eventually, you have conflict. If you think mermaids are people, obviously this looks like madness. If you don't, it's just the straightest line to the end goal.
>>565732452Shikis pray for this too.
>>565747502Imagine just walking down the street one day and being greeted by a friendly Shiki...
>>565745505Again, this is based on the information we have before Part 3 of the VN. Before that, Ilias and Lazarus are the only important characters whose actions make sense.>warlordHe's a warlord because all of his power to effect change comes from his potential for violence. He doesn't need an army for that because he's just that powerful.Paradox Luka is more blatant about it, even to the point that lolipheese I spells it out in the chaos route, but VN Luka is too dependent on violence to be anything but a warlord.
>>565747817Myusca is a friendly reminder of how far charisma and powerful contacts can get you.
>>565748242Except Lazarus took a respected organization that saw a stream of volunteers, and drove it into the ground because he lost his marbles.Ilias Kruz was on its last leg, and would have collapsed even if Luka didn't step in.
>>565748597Lazarus can be a shitty leader and still have a clear logic to his actions.Religious extremism tends to lose organizations followers even when they aren't aiming to start wars.
>>565748330Into an apartment complex on grandma's free-range farm?
>>565747817problem is, shikis are too stupid. You can't even name one smart shiki. The smartest is someone like Vinum and she's still kinda dumb.
>>565749168There's nothing logical in bombing schools and killing human children. That's evil incarnate.
>>565749898Vinum isn't a shiki.
>>565750301
>>565750626She is a Jingai, not a Shiki. Her current potato like features clearly shows her ancestorial roots.
>>565750028It being evil means it can't be logical? He's working toward his goddess' desired end in a way that (IRL) is known to cause ethnic conflict. Evil or no, his reasoning is clear. This is why posters agree with him.
>>565751369>It being evil means it can't be logical>working toward another retard's desired endEvil comes from retardation, not logic.>This is why posters agree with him.Retarded posters agree with him, yes.
>>565716496Digimon made me like girl monsters instead.Touhou, I guess.
>>565744432Nah Luka deserves it for being a carried nepobaby with an impractical dream he forces on the world.
>>565748242what's the difference between a hero and a warlord in any media or fiction then? If you have to use violence on things to create change then why does it apply to him but not those two?>Before that, Ilias and Lazarus are the only important characters whose actions make senseI do not agree in the slightest.>>565751369>This is why posters agree with him."Lazarus was right" was an ironic meme, anon, said in jest. It's a joke borne from how ridiculous his actions were and how he drove his group into the ground and turned them into a bunch of petty thugs that ultimately accomplished literally nothing. I like Lazarus, he was willing to die for what he believed in, but he was inherently wrong (most monsters are not evil and were pushed into increasingly violent behavior by Ilias and her faith's actions as part of the plan), incompetent, and wanted to die as he gave up on life after killing Marcelus on accident.
>>565754019>impractical dreamThe difference between his story and real life is that the majority of Monster Girls are not bad people, the bad ones can and will actually get punished (in the original world at least), and Luka actually has the power to eliminate the problem barrier keeping both sides from reconciling and changing for the better, then does so, and succeeds in making his world a much better place for it.He saved the world and united the people together and helped them rebuild better relationships with each other, because sometimes that's what being a hero is.
>>565754261>ost monsters are not evil and were pushed into increasingly violent behavior by Ilias and her faith's actions as part of the plan)NTA but that's not true. Monsters do it on their own. Like the snake trying to eat luka for crossing the road
>>565751369Also, Lazurus said he did it mostly out of fear, because humans and monsters can could never be equals because of the power difference, which was true. That's why it was changed in paradox
You can-and it has been-argue(d) day in night in this thread about how much of a serial rapists the monster girls are in mgq, what it comes down to is that the girls functionally NEED to rape luka because its a porn game and the entire premise is a shota being raped by monster girls.
>>565756109It comes with the territory of having a 'great' story. I'm also sick of arguing this because we always go into a circle
>>565756334I'd say mgq has a good story, for a porn game.
>>565756428>I'd say mgq has a good story, for a porn game.I don't fully agree, but that is a very reasonable take anon
>>565755747Most =/= all. Most are not evil. Some of them still are, of course. Lady's Village isn't being forgotten and Plansect was infamous for a good reason.The game doing a poor job at showing this consistently I do think is one of the VN's weakest points, and it's something paradox rectified well, but it is still present in the original story with a lot of monster girls in the towns and such (mermaids harpies grand noah etc) and a lot of conflicts being partially instigated by either humans or Ilias herself.>>565756109The difference in perception people have I think gets altered drastically by how much they lose (or intentionally lose to see the hentai) and how much they paid attention to the story or interacted with the NPCs.>>565756334>>565756428I like the story yeah.It's pretty good, it's nice. Not perfect, but quite good still.
>>565756538>>565756538>but it is still present in the original story with a lot of monster girls in the towns and such (mermaids harpies grand noah etc) and a lot of conflicts being partially instigated by either humans or Ilias herself.Its starts mostly because monsters NEED Humans, Humans DON'T NEED monsters anon. Harpies went after humans because they need them, and grand Noah is an even worse example anon since it was mostly co-existence that they threw out Lazarus's team. But nearby still had to deal with Euribite eating anyone who got close, and the pollutions wasn't even from lone humans, it was both Humans AND monsters in that city anon.>The game doing a poor job at showing this consistently I do think is one of the VN's weakest pointsThat's true, that's one of the things of what led to all of these debates.
>>565757523Humans can benefit from them in mutual partnerships, but humans spurring them or antagonizing them has always caused things to become even worse. Harpies and Mermaids are examples of that, and both Port Natalia and Happiness Village change for the better once they fix their behavior; Laura meanwhile remains bitter about the past and refuses to accept humans there had truly changed and comes close to re-starting the cycle again.
>>565758735I never disagreed about the Harpies being a net good, I just said that monsters needed humans and weren't the ones who caused the conflict and going by paradox, what we saw of the mermaids was that Lazarus was right
>>565759123eh, in some cases I still think they were the ones who caused the conflict, but it's usually because they're being propelled to do so by Ilias's faction, like Grangold's king being convinced the ant girls weren't actually sentient and then enslaving the queen or the harpies being hated and rejected no matter how they tried to ask for help because of how much stronger the Ilias faith had gotten over on the continent.>paradoxWorld Drown poisoned the water hole with her yandereisms, that's not their fault.
>>565756109Even outside of Luka being attacked, a lot of the monster girls just are serial rapists. Just look at the Shikibus trio. Being serial rapists is their entire thing.
>>565756109>make a game about rapist monster girls>ummm they are rapists because its a porn gameGood deduction anon, if they weren't rapists the game would be a normal jrpg!
>>565749898Luka
>>5657679605 Nos and 1 Yes after liberal charm magic is still yes!
Thread is slow, so I'll just leave this sleeping fox here.Disturbing her sleep will have konsequences.
>>565779774WAKE UP WAKE UP IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD
>>565779971>fox: is sleeping, not bothering anyone>human: "UOOOOHHHH IMMAH WAKE HER UP UOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH"https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VlhLEhJEWpEWhy are humans so mean?
>>565780646Next time don't kill my friend's chickens
>>565776007I don't recognize the bottom girl. i must have missed her route.
>>565780842>choking the chickenfoxes do be like that, yes
>>565631161Sent idea 1 in. It got rejected.
>>5657922232 then!
>>565767960how would they fare again lilith sister
>>565794010lindamea has weaponized autism
>>565794010They wouldn't. The Lilith sisters are free of sin (their mum paid a hefty sum to Ezwald to absolve them)
>>565754261>what's the difference between a hero and a warlord in any media or fiction then?A hero doesn't have to be his own independent authority or have a broad goal of societal change. You can be both a hero and a warlord. That's usually the origin of "hero-kings", but for obvious reasons, few look kindly on someone they approve of being acknowledged as a warlord.>the other twoLazarus is following the commands of a deity and he lacks the authority required to be an effective warlord. He's basically a theocrat-flavored terrorist. Ilias made most of her subjects directly, and her human subjects worship her without knowledge or fear of her army. She's more like a distant supreme chieftain.>I do not agree in the slightestI've already made my argument.
>>565754261>"Lazarus was right" was an ironic meme, anon, said in jestAgain, at no point before Part 3 are we given any information contradicting his views and actions. He has the approval of the setting's active deity figure, his actions work to limit interactions she disapproves of, and if he'd been successful, his goddess might not have attempted to destroy the world.Even then, that's more of a "Noah's Ark" situation, just without the Ark, so P3 Lazarus could be both an emotional wreck and the only consistent figure around.For him to be a meme, Ilias would have to be an obscure or unknowable being, but she's neither.
>>565796528Nothing in the setting has Ilias approving of Ilias Kruz or Lazarus. She would not have approved of his blunt violence in her name, since it would make her look bad.
>>565755969Sounds like a rational basis for fear.
>>565755969Keep in mind some species of monster children casually survive explosions. and outright tie with or are stronger than your average adult human male with hysterical strength. Yes this means Papi can likely beat you in an armwrestle.
>>565797569To whom? Ilias isn't Christian. She's typically quite zap-happy.San-Ilia exists as a kingdom with a spiritual leader, and Ilias comes down every year to deputize religious warriors to attack her enemies. Lazarus is a revered veteran within this system.
>>565798351>isn't christianChristianity has been used to justify a lot of violence historically...
>>565798156Yeah, but on the other hand we have a super low level Luka just shrugging off the grabs of Vanilla and Teeny.Gob and Papi are in another league of their own.
>>565798451Bot cliche. This doesn't even fit into the argument, so I'll ignore it.
>>565797574It was, that's the point of why some anons agreed with Lazurus >>565798156I know that anon, that's also what also helped increase the fear, the monsters at their weakest are stronger than most at their Strongest >>565798494NTA Luka at his weakest is not normal anon, that's what also causes arguments, he can call himself human but he isn't and even his 'human' side is vastly abnormal.
>>565800294>he can call himself human but he isn'tWhen will we get a real HFY protag?!
>>565800591
Illias kruez as an organization makes sense when the world is filled with powerful monster girls that could rape people, what doesn't make sense is how inept lazarus and by extension the entire organization is and that its just a bunch of thugs bombing mermaid preschools and shit, not burning down plantsect village or wherever the spider girls live, you know the monster girls that are actually dangerous are
>>565798494Luka decently bypassed peak(haha i have trained for so long i am master swordsman) human by end of ilias continent according to the qnaalso keep in mind the guy still has a monster technique by this point and learns shit at an unnatural pace also mgq itself takes place over a few months according to said qna as well..on top of evaluations being canon so for all we know he could have actually lost there and abused his deja vu.dude went from weaker than a single slime which causes an entire village to get into a panic to godkiller. in a few months the rate his strength and more importantly skill gains is utterly ridiculous not to mention Luka innately has way way more stamina than normal humans. He can keep up with monsters humans cant unless they are weirdos with monster dna or doing what marcellus did and making a party to be far more effective.You lose to papi in an armwrestle good day sir.
>>565795710Your argument wasn't very good.>but-Lazarus is made out to be clearly in the wrong even well before you meet the guy; Ilias does not care for him, and given that humanity is shown to be able to fight off monsters and defend their cities from them, Lazarus's talks of fear amount to little more than the projection of his own cowardice and trauma at feeling helpless when he saw Alice tear apart the love of his life because the Monster Lord is simply far far stronger than any other monster that lives.A bunch of human women nearly killed off the entire harpy tribe, even, once Alice and Luka galvanized them, and they only stopped once the truth came out. Plus the human male guards protecting the kingdoms on the main continent since the four kingdoms have a competent military. That's mostly shown off more clearly in part three, but it is still discussed and made evident prior to that.
>>565800835Trtr only give girl in the setting to do anything competence or releated to luka growth
>>565801001nta, but he said Papi was in a league of her own, and she is, because she's a dragon. I don't think anon was disputing that Papi would probably mop the floor with anyone in here. He was just saying Papi is particularly special for being able to do so, because only Gob can armwrestle with her fairly and the other two aren't that strong.>>565800835It's because Lazarus is a coward who doesn't really believe in a lot of the things he says, he's just devastated by his losses and taking his anger out on Monsters for the actions of the Monster Lord. which, ironically now that Paradox Part Three has come out, is exactly the same as Ilias since Fatlice abandoning her for the NEET cave is the main reason she hates all of them so much.
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>>565801001But also keep in mind some monsters innately has less physical traits and have stronger magical ones. gob and papi are physical types .teeny is a all rounder iirc.vanilla's powers is being a jewpire sorry i meant magic magic she can mind control you into buying her stuff which is kind of a pretty darn strong spell for someone to have if she didnt give you a warning luka'd just always lose.even among species some subspecies have more specific focus guaranteed there is likely some vampire thats more physically focused. or better yet succubi we know have varying and odd skillsets on occaision.Either way you are losing to vanilla in an armwrestle cuz you looked into her eyes for a split second good day sir.But in all honesty yeah the world is fucked if ilias isnt tipping the power balance a bit in humanities favor. even if the monster population is currently about a tenth or a fifth forgot the amount of humans.But a regular ass human is not defending themselves against monster lolis without weapons bare handed untrained a average civillian is losing to your average monster loli.Which makes the adults even more terrifying cuz they can cause a shitton of havok prolly why seeing a low level slime caused a panic cuz slimes are varied and its hard to tell if its a low level or high level
the way i've seen it explained is yes humanity will lose to most monsters in a 1v1 scenario but like three humans could beat up papi, and monsters aren't really known for cooperating in groups, harpies aside. Due to the 10:1 human to monster advantage this is a viable strategy too. Granted this doesn't really explain how humanity held against the chimera+ angel onslaught but w/e
>>565801001you have to born special to stand a chance again monster Incredible writting over here
>>565800591The humans in MGQ would, by definition, not be considered HFY at all. Even someone like the 6 Million Gil woman Cyber Knight would not work, even if she is called human in the setting.
>>565800294iirc Luka is a 3 way hybrid between whatever a protohuman is due to royal blood and the abomination that Heinrich was by just being built different as a human.With this as her dad combined with an autistic robot no wonder why Chaos ended up with very odd behaviour the dorkiness and being a weirdo is genetic and prolly the predispotion to wanting to incest cuz of the angel half.
>>565801818>this doesn't really explain how humanity held against the chimera+ angel onslaughtbecause the military is strong + magic gear + teamwork + sentorian humans are not as big jobbers as the ilian schlubs (otherwise their cities wouldn't be around).>>565801840Good thing that's not true.Also what is this, an image for ant girls?
>>565801840No you have to band together Luka literally effectively solo'd an entire Jrpg by himself with a small amount of help from the big bad.Heinrich did the same.Marcellus did it correctly he had a party.Trtr has stated that humanities biggest strength is actually its charisma and social aspects which i do see. Monsters tend to not band together as much as humans do(they at most tend to group villages by race most often even then iirc a large amount of monsters populations are just solo wanderers like the ones luka encounters) that is our advantage.You dont have to be built different to beat a monster. you can either talk it down or talk your buddies into forming a squad to take it down.
>>565801852is it because they got made from alfs
>>565802229yeah human can win again fodder monster but the elite can solo army and countries where they can be shit out of luck even if they gather all of humanity together
>>565802456to be fair a lot of the old stronk monsters are either pro human(tamamo) or old depressed bastards sitting in a lair brooding somewhere(sphinx) as examplesAlso this causes political issues cuz of alices whole "dont cause shit and be murderhobos you retards killing your food is stupid and starting a war will have us kill them which'll cause us to fight eachother you dumbfucks" law that was in effect iirc.Because monsters are prone to infighting as well because racism exists for monsters too go see plants fighting insects as an example causing a lot of shit with humans is dumb when you could just kidnap one make it your husbandslave and eat in the damn corner.Lets say it gets blown upblowing up a city would cause people to lose their shit cuz some monsters also likely had eyes on the city said ancient monster blew up ergo infighting and causes more politics and more paperwork for poor tamamo.
>>565802360Yes.Which is kind of funny, since Paradox did give us characters the HFY crowd would appreciate.Cyber Knight was a successful monster slayer, and using the power of humsn science, was made as strong, or stronger than a Queen class monster. Even funnier, since she was seen as successfully fighting off multiple Hiruko clones, she is a more successful cyborg than the AW and MW products.
>>565803093How many monster even follow that rule Alice don't give a shit about it if they blantencely ignore her and keep doing it like nothing even happen but it fair that only tamamo doing it serious and othes act like a bunch of dumb animals that somehow gained sentience only to do stupid shit
>>565802456Pilate, I understand you've been traumatized by Luka dragging you around to see the horrors of the angel and monster worlds, but you can bench press a golem now, you gotta find some of your cojones again man.>>565803190It is not the origin of the man, it is the capacity for HUMAN SPIRIT.I love HFY, but I like to keep some things I like separate. But in this case, I honestly enjoy it as Pure Human Greatness being able to rise up and work *with* the Monster Girls, instead of it just being a bunch of guys running around killing Monster Girls.
>>565801641>Either way you are losing to vanilla in an armwrestle cuz you looked into her eyes for a split second good day sir.you mean because i'm staring into those pretty eyes, right anon?
>>565803617I could beat her i naturally avoid eye contact
>>565801641>she can mind control you into buying her stuffimplying I have money, get hard countered
>>565803470a lot of them, actually, but you deal with the troublemakers, so of course that's what you see more of. You still get to meet and be shown monsters following the 'don't kill people you idiot' rule.
>>565803528I love a setting with peacful coexistance with monster and all but some monster that wrong human need a few hammer to the head as a caution tale for future genaration
>>565803617ngl I like the bat pants and wish she had them
>>565804002cute!!!
>>565801991>iirc Luka is a 3 way hybrid between whatever a protohuman is due to royal blood and the abomination that Heinrich was by just being built different as a human.That's why I don't really count Luka as human and his dad is a genetic freak, A SUPER outlier. It would be like counting Samson/Hercules etc as something normal for humans and not something that's incredibly rare. That's what I meant, so anons using Luka and such as an example is HORRIBLE because even then they died a ton of times and were only saved by Illias winding back time. A normal human doesn't have any of that>>565803617Stare at the nose, not the eyes, same thing.
>>565800835He's trying to start a grassroots movement. If you destroy some self-destructing village no one has ever heard of, nothing changes.When the average man thinks even mermaids are just horny barbarians who act on centuries-old grudges, things change. Imagine HFY Luka for a moment.
>>565803992Well now I didn't disagree with that.But Angel's Halo is kinda like a hammer, right? Or, rather I guess more like a club. Either way you bash someone over the head enough times with that and you create the cautionary tale and lesson to be remembered while ALSO avoiding the problem of 'oops I killed this crazy lady and now I made a martyr', which actually comes up a few times too.Like how he sealed Shirohebi and then instead of giving her a dignified death or end, she's now just a chubby white snake who tries to slither off and then gets scooped up and put in a fucking jar and then taken off screen to be shaken around like jingling keys until the time of the victory lap where her younger sister (blue shirohebi) has gotten her to apologize to you and stop causing problems.or just kill them like Cassandra deserved. Alice kill stealed him on that one though.
This HFY thing feels like those obnoxious comments in femdom doujins that go "I'd put that bitch in her place"
>>565804465I think Luka if luka is less dence it would make him more intersting
>>565804458Marcellus seemed rather normal despite protohuman dna prolly cuz the guy didnt run around hoarding spirits.
>>565803617The mind control/hypnosis wouldnt work on this man because he was already willing to do what she wanted.
>>565801065>Lazarus is made out to be clearly in the wrong even well before you meet the guyAbsolutely wrong. We see him do something you think is wrong, and the main characters (whose motives are already nonsensical) call him crap. >but trau-Part 3>humans have kingdoms thereYes, because human settlements are a requirement for even monster girls to exist. They just need the occasional man.Best to leave it be.>harpiesAt their weakest, and if they'd really tried to wipe them out, Lucretia could've slaughtered them.
what's HFY
>hfyJust play a SMT game on the neutral route where you kick the demons-including lilims, pixies and the like- back to the expanse>>565805279Humanity fuck yeah
>>565805202The statement you think is wrong makes me wonder is wrongness just a matter of perspective in and of itself. Is it wrong to consume life to continue exist plants eat the sun both are alive in some odd esoertic basic sense. Therefore everything is wrong because nothing is wrong.>>565803840And this man is about to get his semen bottled and sol to other monstergirls for money.
>>565805368>Humanity fuck yeahI can't think of any monster girl series where that's true maybe besides ROBF and all the others in the series
>>565805523>And this man is about to get his semen bottled and sol to other monstergirls for money.I won?
>>565804697Church-of-Bash-your-Evil-Face in with a Hammer ensure to safety of the nation and its people and the farmer prays to avoid being skull-fucked by perverse, ignore the moral point of all this doing this thing where the game just make every monster femdom that fuck you and turn you into a sobbing pathetic mess get old and pathetic just make me want to rooted for lazarus because most monster keep dominated people that has no chance and don't want to fuck them
Monsters exist and make human women better even pro human people should see this why? Women become perverts earlier are far more open about and even resort to rape sometimes just to keep men away some even train their pssies or practice stuff just to try and have an edge of monster pussy's natural powers.either way nobody is stopping succubi cuz of purple sabbath being worldwide your wife could become a succ at any moment.
>>565805202>Absolutely wrong. We see him do something (you) think is wrong-I'm sorry anon but you are objectively wrong. Idiot bombed a school with human kids and knows full well that they were present. God would be ashamed of him.>Part 3Where he finds the balls to fight something like a man again and dies a better person, saving people from Ilias's side? Yeah that was based of him.>>565805279"Humanity Fuck Yeah">>565804697I think this is true only if it gets taken too far in a series or setting where it's not supposed to be excessively so. Some mild HFY in MGQ is perfectly ok, and present in Paradox all the time. It's when it gets to unironic ilias kruez posting that it becomes a problem.
>>565805809purity good though, what's the point if everyone is a slut
>>565805809Women are already pervs, just not for you.Ironically monster girls are the same. We are all just pornof citizens.
>>565804968Anon... he was fighting monsters, and slaying cute innocent Angels. He was far from normal.
>>565505293Anons, don't miss this roster poll!
>>565807051angels deserved it because they were following orders
>>565804284I would genuinely like to see Jingai draw her with it honestly, I just prefer it. I think it looks much nicer. Also the little bat details are neat.I still think it's hilarious that she and Okyuu have actually met each other, but it was while they were waiting in line at the grocery store to buy milk, and Okyuu ended up destroying Vanilla's hopes by sheer accident just from the act of showing up as a slightly-above-chestlet-size girl because Vanilla thought the milk was magical embiggening juice that would make her get rich quick back home.
>>565807337Wrong, I was going to smooch them but he kept getting in the way and trying to make everything about himself.
>>565807051I don't remember Marcellus killing angels, that's Heinrich.>innocentdebatable
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>>565807570>I don't remember Marcellus killing angels, that's Heinrich.I get them mixed up from time to my, my honest mistake anon. Thank you for not getting mad. But again, Marcellus was far from normal, other than dippin in the mana. He was real for that>debatableNot to me it isn't. Other than be very cute and honest, they did mostly did almost nothing wrong.
side note given her habit of downing glasses of wine in a desperate attempt to prove she's a REAL MATURE VERY NOBLE VAMPIRE ADULT Vanilla kidnapping Master in the middle of the night to tie him to a chair bound and gagged and then threaten him with a knife to the throat while screaming in his face about how she's totally not a washboard has an extremely high likelihood of being caused by her getting drunk off her ass and thinking it was a good idea at the time.I don't even care about the scene itself I just think her doing this at all is hilarious. She's such a mess. Three of the four bandits are normal ordinary girls and then Vanilla just becomes increasingly unhinged over the course of the adventure until by the end she's shocking even her allies with some of the stuff she does like being one of the instigators of the luka-madness-craze and the fan club by doing things such as producing and selling all those cosplay outfits without his knowledge or consent.
>>565807594Your upload failed
>>565807051MGQ offers you ways of stop being "normal". Some rando schmuck with a pike isn't going to get far, no different from other fantasy settings.
>>565808252She did nothing wrong, she was just making some money
>>565808346>Some rando schmuck with a pike isn't going to get farcould you beat chaos at lv1 with the generic soldier man
>>565808346>MGQ offers you ways of stop being "normal". Some rando schmuck with a pike isn't going to get far, no different from other fantasy settings.Not really anon, especially in MGQ. I would get eaten easily. My tyson in his prime isn't stopping most monster girls >Some rando schmuck with a pike isn't going to get far, no different from other fantasy settings.Not really, in most other fantasy settings they show you can get stronger. Like in Baulders Gate and such, you can meet stronger people and aren't generally locked down like they are in MGQ, its just that it takes a while. Even in Dragon Quest you see other adventurers
>>565808291>Your upload failedNo it didn't. Catbox link opens for me, and as weird as the fanbox link looks, it opens the page. Just, not actually subbed to his fanbox, so sadly only have the one image.
>>565808362vampires did port natalia
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>>565810626I guess she is fairly popular after allalthough i thought she didn't actually have legs
Instead of training, i'm going to find a mysterious glowing rock. If goofy scientist Aunt May can become as powerful as a 4HK, so can I.
Instead of training, i'm going to find a mysterious glowing girl. If Hero Luka can become as dry as a dried fish, so can I.
Instead of training, I'm going to find Ilias. If retarded gardener can get a fulfilling life, so can I.
Instead of training, I'm going to rape human boys. If retarded succubi can get stronger by milking men, so can I.
>>565794010Lindamea is going to win, but the survival of the other two depends if you're wanking Paradox or Black Souls
>>565794010Like the other anon says, Lindamea kinda solos since he can go toe to toe with grimm who outscales MGQ so much it's not even close. The other two are kinda jobbers
>>565819793>guy that dies instantly by dropping from a height of about 15-20 meters without shitpost cat's ring outscales MGQI see, that means Rami scales to at least tier 0 on the memebattles system and solos the BSverse because she can drop from the tallest mountains and walk it off easily.
>>565822204not that anon, but strictly speaking, her funbags weigh her down and render her vulnerable to attacks from all other angles. only that one part of her is invulnerable, so all you need to do is out-maneuver her and strike from the back or the sides.also she's not fireproof.
>>565822204>>565823287Also don't forget Eden got hospitalized when she fell down from the sky in the Ilias route. Rami is just a comedic outlier.
>>565823513Everyone knows comedy characters are 'secretly' the strongest.
>>565823287But what if she does a stomp?
>>565823513eden was in a full body cast because she got turbowrecked from the mid-air fight, that one's not just because she fell
>>565825807The offscreen attack in question left Sariela as just a head. There's no way Eden took that attack directly
>>565826857Even an indirect hit was still powerful enough to ragdoll her; a direct hit would've left nothing behind.
>>565826857The attack in question is supposed to be as strong as Michaela's Heaven's Blade, and that is like a mini nuke when at full strength. Eden being made into a mummy by just a grazing is possible.
>>565805915>I'm sorry anon but you are objectively wrong. Idiot bombed a school with human kids and knows full well that they were present. God would be ashamed of him.Ilias is not the Christian God. Lazarus is not a Christian. Religion is not some small flavoring for enlightened people, it's the foundation of a worldview.This talk has become boring. You can't distinguish between a wrongful action (according to our values) and an irrational one for a veteran religious warrior of the "No Monsters; No Monsterfucking" faith.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBwKLdyeBEwhas this been talked about already? just a casual 5hr video about paradox, nothing special.
>>565830870I meant to say "His God would be ashamed of him", because Ilias is literally ashamed of him and he's a pathetic hypocrite. Forgive me for the typo. But I'm pretty confident Ilias thinks him nearly killing a bunch of human children makes him look like an imbecile.>You can't distinguish between a wrongful action (according to our values) and an irrational one for a veteran religious warrior of the "No Monsters; No Monsterfucking" faithWhat kind of nonsense argument is this? You're trying to say Lazarus and Ilias are the "only ones who make sense" because his actions are in accordance to his "values" and yet turning that around to apply to both Luka and Alice and everyone else is wrong because they contradict Lazarus's and Ilias's values? That statement is a farce, that argument easily applies to everyone you're complaining on. (You) don't agree with Luka's beliefs, that's why you don't like him. Are you unable to distinguish your own idea of a wrongful act from Luka's worldview? Ilias's faith is a lie and Luka starts seeing the cracks quickly and changes his perception accordingly.>irrationalBombing a children's school with HUMAN kids is irrational for someone who claims to be fighting for humanity. You think I can't distinguish my own personal view from what Lazarus believes? I can, that's how I know Lazarus is wrong and betrays what he claims to uphold. He is a hypocrite. He's not even that religious. You're trying to paint him like some kind of paladin or devout follower. He's little more than a petty terrorist who's willing to endanger and kill innocent humans because he just doesn't really care about his cause after he killed his friend on accident.Maybe if you didn't keep trying to sidestep every counterpoint people raise you wouldn't look like an idiot.>This talk has become boringlolI accept your concession.If you think this is so boring I guess there's no need for you to reply, either.
>>565832365yes, but I don't think anyone really cared about it that much.
>>565833469huh, i see. i was just surprised to see this on my frontpage. watching it as we speak.
>>565804697Lmao right on the money
>>565832365With a title like that and being five hours long, it comes of as one of those "the game that breaks you" or "the most disgusting game that is disgusting and disgusts me" videos. Instantly kills any interest I might've had.
>>565834549>it comes of as one of those "the game that breaks you" or "the most disgusting game that is disgusting and disgusts me" videos.the funny thing is, so far it doesn't. i'm only 15 minutes in and so far it's been very positive and mostly just a story and mechanics recap (right now in the video luka and the gang just had their first meeting with the white rabbit)
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>>565832365>giant view spike from MGQ video>lasts over the next monster girl videos>there is no monster girl media to make content fromPoor guy, almost had a chance to make a little passive income stream.
>>565807594I wonder what's got him on the Vinum train?
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>>565832635Lazarus is trying to radicalize the public, so he hurts children and accepts that human kids die also. This tactic is proven to work.He is a devout follower of a religion that supports this, and a sanctioned warrior for that faith.Luka claims to follow Ilias, but he ignores her directives in favor of a principle hard-coded into his paternal bloodline.This shouldn't break your brain.
>>565838872He's also grief stricken from killing his best friend. He's looking for a chance to die. He tried to provoke Luka, then Alice, and when that failed he asks Mandy to let him die fighting.I think it is a parallel to Alice traveling the world for something to show her humans aren't worth coexisting with. Lazarus did what he did to try and confirm he was as irredeemable as he felt he was. In the end Alice never found a scorn for humanity, and Lazarus found redemption of a sort before he died.
>>565838872It doesn't 'break my brain', anon. But Lazarus is not doing it for any religious reasons. He and Marcellus founded the organization entirely out of vengeance, and he openly admits that when he starts explaining it to Luka. It's not about Ilias. It's about hating Monsters because he fears them and wants revenge for the death of his two friends. The reason he attacked Marcellus was because he felt like he was betraying the memory of Karen and Merlin. It's very much a personal, emotional-fueled choice, and he doesn't care about protecting or radicalizing humanity. He actually warns Luka to leave ahead of time when he's bombing the Mermaid Pub because Lazarus's goal isn't to injure other humans with his attacks, he did that part by accident.Luka follows Ilias very devoutly at first, but he starts to realize the contradictions between what her religion 'claims' and what he actually sees and experiences in the world. So slowly his personal experiences begin to show the problems present in her beliefs, and he starts to turn away from them and decide his own choices. It's not hard coded into him as he starts out pretty much the opposite and was planning to die a martyr under the belief his father was an insane terrorist, and Lazarus revealing the truth to him plays an important part in his arc.
>>565838568big girl cock.
>>565840746>he doesn't care about protecting or radicalizing humanity as much as he does just killing monsters*do'hHe does accept that he's hurt other humans too, but he doesn't feel good about it and never tries to justify that part, just that it's not his intent. If he was trying to radicalize people by killing humans in terrorist attacks he would've left Luka in the pub without warning him, but his real goal is to just find a way to die as the death of Marcellus completely broke him.
>>565840746>Luka follows Ilias very devoutly at first,NTA but he was always doing it very loosely, other than praying he just mostly did his own thing. He was always going on about peace and coexistence
>>565807594Ruined.
>>565841110Ilias's teachings as her commandments are>"Thou shalt not have intercourse with monsters">“Be dutiful in your prayers”>“Point your sword at the Goddess and thou shalt cry”>"Thou shalt not rely on other gods">"Thou shalt not disgrace the Goddess"and he fully believes in those at the start. None of them actually tell you to go around killing monsters. That's also why some of the monsters sincerely start trying to convert to her faith, as the 'idea' of it is supposed to bring peace for humanity and help humans.It's that in practice Ilias's true beliefs are much more "I want everyone who doesn't like me dead" and this applies to all monsters by default, and she tries to galvanize hatred and resentment against them by killing remina and pinning it on them among other things. Luka reminisces on how there were 'signs of coexistence' at the start 30 years back before it happened, and his motivation for defeating the monster lord is under the belief that she's evil and involved, and that if he defeats her monsters will start to go in a better direction.The biggest thing that starts to make him hesitate is that once he realizes Alice is the aforementioned monster lord, he thinks that he can still bring about coexistence by redeeming her or getting her to change instead. And Ilias simply continues to tell him to kill her.
>>565823287Deserved
>>565841018no cluckin way
>>565840296>>565840746Is this information introduced in Part 3? Y/N?
>>565842651>and he fully believes in those at the start. None of them actually tell you to go around killing monsters. I thought that was implied when she sent heroes to defeat monsters and the Demon lord, especially the ones that are attacking people>That's also why some of the monsters sincerely start trying to convert to her faith, as the 'idea' of it is supposed to bring peace for humanity and help humans.Monsters being monsters to each other also helps. >The biggest thing that starts to make him hesitate is that once he realizes Alice is the aforementioned monster lord, he thinks that he can still bring about coexistence by redeeming her or getting her to change instead. And Ilias simply continues to tell him to kill her.>It's that in practice Ilias's true beliefs are much more "I want everyone who doesn't like me dead" and this applies to all monsters by default, and she tries to galvanize hatred and resentment against them by killing remina and pinning it on them among other things. Luka reminisces on how there were 'signs of coexistence' at the start 30 years back before it happened, and his motivation for defeating the monster lord is under the belief that she's evil and involved, and that if he defeats her monsters will start to go in a better direction.Again to me at least, Illias wanting monsters gone doesn't feel like that was ever hidden, it was more like he was just ignoring it
>>565838872>Lazarus is trying to radicalize the public, so he hurts children and accepts that human kids die alsoSooooooooooooo he wants even MORE people to side with monsters?lmaoo maximum retard
>>565843370It's actually kind of funny.Ilias worship pretty much flourishes only in times when monster/human conflict happens, and if monsters go bye bye, Ilias' role in human society goes with them unless she becomes a world tyrant like Sub-Ilias. Paradox pretty much shows this in Part 2.Outside of B.Alice, none of the MLs played ball, and didn't do the species war. Ilias should have been fine with our Alice going down the dark path, as she will get another worship renaissance, and it's not like she will be threatened at all if it happens, since no one is strong enough to beat her in such a scenario.
>>565843069Part Two; Lazarus infodumps before Luka fights Alice anon; he had the Garuda egg stolen before they had arrived, and while it's made clear he's trying to destroy it, it's implied that his real reason was because it was him attempting to try and force the confrontation between himself and Luka before Luka could leave the continent due to his desire to be killed by Luka. He explains all the circumstances surrounding this to Luka in an attempt to enrage him enough to kill Lazarus (who seeks to both become a martyr and also perish for killing Marcellus), and he nearly succeeds, as Luka's only stopped by Alice's intervention. When she shows up Lazarus changes gears and tries to get Alice to kill him instead, telling her about how she destroyed her mother's dream and murdered his friends, but Alice doesn't give in to him and simply petrifies Lazarus in order to 'defeat' him without actually killing him. Lazarus's petrification comes undone mid-Part Three, and it's where he fights the trooperoid army using Salamander's power in order to help save people like he used to, having remembered why he truly used to fight for people, and dies in the process due to him not having a true contract with Salamander and thus destroying his body in the process.
>>565843370In the Ilias dream in Port Natalia (after Lazarus bombs the school), Ilias descends to tell him he's a true hero again and Luka cheerfully declares with great exuberance that "I'll defeat all the evil monsters!" with zero hesitation. Luka was never against defeating monsters, especially not ones attacking people, and he declares he will protect the weak or innocent who cannot protect themselves.It's specifically when Ilias interrupts him to tell him "defeat the monster lord, Luka" that Luka begins hesitating, because this is after he has finally realizes who Alice is and knowing she's not pure evil he believes he can change or redeem her.It's not so much that it was hidden (he still idolizes Heinrich and never really stops either and he's totally on board with getting rid of evil monsters); it's that once Luka has to confront the reality that the specific individual Ilias is commanding him to kill is someone that he doesn't think is evil and believes he can redeem or change, the cognitive dissonance of what he believes in and what Ilias is ordering him to do start to make him hesitate and question his beliefs.
>>565843395I think they actually point that out in-game to some degree.
>>565843860I'm sorry anon, I didn't notice you replied to me. >Ilias worship pretty much flourishes only in times when monster/human conflict happens, and if monsters go bye bye, Ilias' role in human society goes with them unless she becomes a world tyrant like Sub-Ilias. Paradox pretty much shows this in Part 2.I can admit this to a certain degree. >Outside of B.Alice, none of the MLs played ball, and didn't do the species war. Ilias should have been fine with our Alice going down the dark path, as she will get another worship renaissance, and it's not like she will be threatened at all if it happens, since no one is strong enough to beat her in such a scenario.Fair enough, most monsters tend to target other monsters. So I can also understand this as well>>565844554Okay, its not that I don't understand where you're coming from or disagree with your points, its just that Luka never killed any monsters only sealed them. He never had any real blood on his hands. If I'm making sense, so he still was able to live with his coexistence dream in his head and not really think about it. If I'm making sense anon.
>>565845062Luka accepts he is a idiot for thinking such things, but doesn't care. He knows he is a fool with a foolish dream, but is going to keep fighting for it.And funny enough, he got what he wanted. 20+ years he is still fighting for it, so much so, that he practically abandoned his kids for it.
Tardzarus made people embrace coexistence even faster.
>>565810626bimbo emily*
>>565845606I think the point I'm trying to say is that its easier for him to have those dreams since he can't die and never has to really hurt anyone. Death means nothing since he'll just roll back in time and he kinda knows that along with him being a turbo masochist so suffering any horrors won't turn him away.
>>565845606>so much so, that he practically abandoned his kids for it.And despite this, one of them still thinks he's super cool and the other one throws tantrums when you insist that she can't bang papa
>>565845062>>565845813I understand anon, but I think an important part of their two arcs is that there's times Luka does pull out the iron sword again, or seriously does want to commit to killing something, but whenever he does, Alice intervenes to keep Luka from 'dirtying his hands'. Alice wants Luka to remain a "pure" hero as part of her martyr complex, because she wants to be the one to carry that burden, until he can kill her to 'save the world' and allow her to atone for her mistake. Alice also has a tendency to do this on her route in Paradox as well where she intervenes for him or other party members to kill specific enemies. Alice is also the reason he has Angel's Halo in the first place as she gives it to him so he CAN fight by 'sealing' certain enemies instead of needing to commit to killing them; this is why she asks him to pull out his original iron sword for their fight as she didn't want him to have to kill anyone else but her.Essentially part of Luka's development happens because Ilias wants him to have hands stained red and Alice continuously intervenes in order to ensure Luka never needs to actually do this. In her attempts to break his martyr complex so he'll be able to become/remain the hero he's striving to be, she makes him realizes she has one herself which is why he drills into her at the end of the fight about how stupid and pointless their entire battle was.
>>565845993His kids are not going to be able to carry the burden of their parents when they ultimately retire, and pass their job to them.
moral of the thread
>>565846223It's funny how she basically wanted to rule together with Fatlice and enslave humanity together.
>>565846223Pic unrelated, I take it. Especially considering that everything turned out fine in Paradox with Ilias as the #1 Goddess of Heaven.
>>565846538Because Luka&Chaos are keeping her in check.
>>565846017See, I understand what you're saying anon. I'm just saying that he has no real skin in the game, He's no Desmond Doss or anything of the such, since he had such a blessed life and never really had to make any real sacrifices. Even during the Alice thing he was only going to do that when Illias told him but never really followed through to it and even at the end when he killed Illas, Iliias still saved him at the end. I understand what you're saying and the point you're making, I just... can't agree with it? If that makes sense. You're statement is solid and waterproof but I think we have two seperate takes on this>>565846223In MGQ world I don't really agree with that. Especially with how early monsters were
>>565846787Ilias did not care about monsters until after her sister betrayed her. We don't know what her stance was like during the earliest days of human history. We frankly don't have much info at all to make a judgment.
>>565847089That's why I said MGQ anon, I mean I know they're the same Illias, but I was going from that lore for a reason. I'm sorry if I wasn't clear
>>565845993I hate that neris is the incest fiend trope
Incest is good for you (if you're monster/angel)
>>565846787I think it's fine to criticize the narrative allowing Luka to get away without serious personal sacrifice even though Luka actually is perfectly willing to make those sacrifices. I don't think Ilias saving him is a bad thing, as it's a good moment narratively to show how similar the three main characters ultimately are and Luka is genuinely fine with dying if it means he saves the world; it's Ilias's choice to save him so she can do one final thing truly worthy of the idea of a goddess.To be completely honest with you anon I am actually surprised you did not mention all of the villagers in his home village having been teleported to Enrika during the attack by Micaela as part of a contingency plan, because the entire reason Luka unlocks his Angel Powers in the first place was the sight of his entire hometown having been utterly burned to the ground and the angels rubbing it in his face that Ilias had them target his hometown first entirely out of spite, causing him to become so uncontrollably 300% MAD that he completely shatters Lucifina's ring and just obliterates the angel from the face of the earth.Sure finding out a lot of those villagers ended up still alive (even if their homes and everything they own is now gone) is probably nice for Luka, but I do believe that this seriously undercuts the moment. I think this is why trtr started trying to commit more in Paradox for the darker parts, since even at the very end not everything could be undone.
>>565846787But yes I think that's fine, thank you for understanding anon I appreciate it.
Please wait warmly
>>565847774This better have best girl as the OP.
>>565847774No new thread... cold....
>>565847862I agree! Reina, of course!
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>>565847504Luka being saved by Illias wasn't really surprising, I would have been more surprised(in a bad way) if she didn't save him or something at the end. >To be completely honest with you anon I am actually surprised you did not mention all of the villagers in his home village having been teleported to Enrika during the attack by Micaela as part of a contingency plan, because the entire reason Luka unlocks his Angel Powers in the first place was the sight of his entire hometown having been utterly burned to the ground and the angels rubbing it in his face that Ilias had them target his hometown first entirely out of spite, causing him to become so uncontrollably 300% MAD that he completely shatters Lucifina's ring and just obliterates the angel from the face of the earth.Sure finding out a lot of those villagers ended up still alive (even if their homes and everything they own is now gone) is probably nice for Luka, but I do believe that this seriously undercuts the moment. I think this is why trtr started trying to commit more in Paradox for the darker parts, since even at the very end not everything could be undone.At that part, I was mostly just numb. I don't mind Darker parts, I just hate when its done stupidly. If that makes sense.>>565847723And thank you as well anon, it was a joy talking to you as well
>>565842198no way fag
