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Previous: >>564771104

actual Riven Tides - edition

>News & updates
https://arcraiders.com/en/news/

>Resources
Items
https://arcforge.org/
Skill Tree Builder
https://arcskilltree.com/
Interactive Maps
https://metaforge.app/arc-raiders/map
https://arcraidersmaps.app/
Event Timers
https://metaforge.app/arc-raiders/event-timers
Key Card locations
https://imgur.com/a/s9YtLXR
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If you don't like the patch updates, you're a shitter just admit it
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>>565127490
im ok with most of them
just sad about the electric cloak
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I like that its cheaper to carebear with my jupiter now
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>>565126934 #
In-match? How?
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>>565127683
I guess going from 120 shots to 132 is nice.
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>>565127683
same
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>>565072893
Get on mine
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>>565127798
Simply bring 2 anvils. Ez fix.
>they nerf durability again
THREE ANVILS
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Did you guys hug your Scrappy today?
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Carebears malding
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if you want to fire 120 anvil rounds it costs 70 metal alone in ammo and repairs. i guess they just want you to mindlessly farm to shoot your weapon
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>>565128079
Only fun thing was this
Last shot, leaper dies, my gun breaks. This never happened before.
In general this still sucks
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>new item
>white flag
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>play solo
>peace and harmony
>play squads
>senseless killing
why are raiders like this?
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>>565128437
>i guess they just want you to mindlessly farm
farming means player retention which looks better for the shareholders
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>>565128081
i will now
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>>565128437
>if you want to fire 120 anvil rounds
Heavy ammo is for breaking armor, then you can use your other gun to deal damage to the exposed parts. You weren't supposed to sit there and fire your anvil 120 times.
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>>565129158
Will be nerfed by the next patch
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>>565127119
I think that's how they're going to allow people to keep 1 BP per expedition
>every ammo type needs a bp now
>Every other item that you automatically get when you upgrade work benches are bps as well
Even better
>every bench needs a bp
>Upgrading your bench?
>BP

And then every retard here
>Embark did it again!
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>>565129326
>scrappy can solo queens
What are you feeding your chicken?
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>>565124520
Can confirm you can find boats on other maps. At least this green one.
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>>565129669
scrappy is an ARC spy. He's only giving you rare ARC artifacts to gain your trust.
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>>565127490
>Can't handle when people don't agree with him
They might be a shitter in this game. You're mentally a shitter in real life. Cry about it
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>>565129959
also found a tempest, bobcat in the locked confiscation room during the day. so the buff appears to be working but still sometimes RNG fucks you over and you get crappy items. that feels so bad when that happens.
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>>565130046
Have fun in helldivers 2 for me bro, seems more your speed
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>>565130226
Finding weapons is horrific now. They're almost completely broken
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>>565130406
No. You keep crying and I'll keep playing arc raiders.
You should buy a switch 2 to find people who are as mentally weak as you are.
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>>565130580
No you're playing helldivers 2 because you're ass at arc
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>>565130690
No, you have a switch 2, because you're a crybaby bitch.
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>>565130795
he said while fighting for democracy like a casual
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>in Buries Shitty night raid
>waiting for extract
>hear duo coming down stairs
>see them, I'm hiding behind the signs by the stairs they came down
>say in prox chat "hey, you guys friendly"
>they don't respond and move for a few seconds before shooting me
>get out of there and me and my friend fight them for a bit
>end up dying
What's the point? We were gonna let you leave. I feel like I should start shooting on sight on some maps. Like Stella, Blue Gate, and Night Raid Buried Shitty.
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>>565129391
NTA. Any proof that a weapon with poor armor penetration is just as good as a weapon with good penetration against an exposed core? Are you implying I should chip off armor with a hull cracker and then switch to a burletta to save on repair costs?
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>>565130412
Durability were both at 63, but that checks out with the patch notes. Key rooms and breach rooms having the best duarbility guns while cases to find have the worst. I was mostly talking about the rarity buff for keys in my post.
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>>565131163
Bring deployable cover and lock that bitch down next time
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>>565130412
Its shitty, but at least you get a repair bonus when doing an upgrade on weapons you found.
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>>565130952
Keep crying, tendie
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>>565129391
>You weren't supposed to sit there and fire your anvil 120 times.
Shut the fuck up. Yes you were. Anvil is the designated versatility weapon. Blues are not going to be much better anyway. It's going to be impossible to maintain them now without gun part blueprints.
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>>565129391
That's gotta be the gayest glaze regarding the nerf I've read, congrats bro
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>>565131458
I will. Where's a good place at the bottom of the stairs to plant traps just to keep myself safe? I'm also pissed because my duo was planting an explosive mine and I was running out from my smoke grenade and bumped into him and it fucking stopped him from planting the mine.
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>>565131396
He's a retard. Ignore him. All those people climbing on a queen/matriarch exposing their core and putting a deadline on it are idiots. Should've brought a kettle. Down in 2 hits.
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>>565129669
mixed fruit
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>>565129669
I think certain things can give you stuff to craft weapons. And that's when you can get cores.
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>>565132187
whats the recipe for this
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>>565132602
You have to do it topside. Apricot, lemon and prickly pear
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>>565132602
Lemon, Apricot and Prickly pear. You can only craft it ingame tho
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>>565132753
>>565132830
>can only craft it topside
guys I might actually hate swedish people
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>>565133150
Just spawn in with 5 of each fruit, craft it, safepocket, and quit out. It's the fastest way to get around their obtuseness.
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Fellas! A lot of my green weapons are around 60 durability after nailing hotshot. If I go in for damage is that going to pretty much break my shit that match after this update?
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>>565133525
Stuff breaks pretty fast now. Like they heard the complaints about the Bettina breaking like a twig and decided to make most other weapons worse than the Bettina for durability.
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Why not instigation based matchmaking?
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>>565133525
>If I go in for damage is that going to pretty much break my shit that match
basically, yes

going hard with a green will eat over half your durability in a single match
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>>565133676
We heard you. All other augments suck ass. That's why we nerfed survivor and every other aug except the shittiest purple augs. Now those crappy purple augs aren't as crappy by comparison.
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Is fruit mix the best scrappy feed? I thought it was agave.
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>>565135216
I do it cause I want the free cores, but I think the other ones are good if you're aiming for some other item
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I cannot find these at all

and I need 5? sheeesh
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>>565134197
It's crazy that ABMM doesn't count this. If I get shot first and then kill the dude or shoot back, I should not get put into rat lobbies.
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>>565135216
lemons will get you free deadlines
mixed fruit can get you some cores
agave gives mods right? that's just ok for the occassional silencer3 but not worth the trouble
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>>565135693
Yeah :(
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Someone tell me how accurate this is for shooting on site even as a PvE player. You definitely shoot on site in any version of Stella Montis. Regular Buried City is iffy. But Bird City and night raid are shoot on sight. Blue Gate depends and you should just be wary. Am I missing anything?
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>>565135643
Heavy gun parts bp is something that I want to have guaranteed after the expedition. That's why I leave it at 4.
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>>565136221
I've played for 20 hours and gotten shot once, I've never shot anyone else except in retaliation
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>>565136221
I never shoot on sight. You tards with your map-specifc mumbo jumbo are just in Somalia. Stop shooting people
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>>565136221
Night raid stella montis is usually pvp but for anything else stay hidden and listen. Ive had blueprint sharing at stella on a night raid and ive been swarmed with a dozen rats in a matriarch lobby. Your best bet is to listen for gunshots and how frequent they are.
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>>565136221
not how this works
>>565136506
that's also a lie. every pve player can confirm that after each patch.
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>>565136713
>that's also a lie
it's just my anecdotal experience after a short amount of time. I'm just trying the update now and will see how it goes
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The gear burn rate fucking sucks holy shit, there's no way anyone likes this shit. I'm actually dreading the next reset.
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>>565136506
You must have gotten extremely lucky then.
>>565136705
>Your best bet is to listen for gunshots and how frequent they are.
It's hard to tell when it's a big arc someone is fighting or a player when far away. But this does usually work for me. But man, sometimes even with not shooting, you get ratted.
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>>565129391

UH OH.
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>>565136221
>Stella KOS
Depends how deep you are into PVE matchmaking. If you're deep nobody is going to shoot you, but always be cautious around extracts and while extracting.
Stella only becomes KOS when you are in rat lobbies because 90% of freekits are going to be aggressive and most people you run into are also going to be working under the same assumption about them as you are. But other maps can be more peaceful with rat matchmaking. The problem is that queuing Stella while in rat matchmaking and expecting to KOS or be KOS'd is a fastrack to pvp matchmaking where you are basically in a self-fulfilling prophecy unless you go in without risk for the purpose of dying.
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>>565137090
>takes 3 clicks to make a stack of every ammo type
>takes 5 clicks to make a stack of heavy ammo now
This game is so fucking annoying lmao
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>>565137090
Me too. Gearing up with free kits was my method. It will be tedious as fuck now. I'll probably drop this game after the expedition, because it's going to be boring as fuck
The game has a timer showing how much time you're spending topside. Embark doesn't like this, they want you in the menu all the time
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the fuck
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>>565137271
This makes sense. I'm pretty deep into PVE matchmaking, but all the Stella horror stories make me more nervous. I have been shot at extract before though, yeah.
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>>565136221
In my lobbies nearly no one ever shoots on sight. Most of us are running around in legendary equipment. One out of like 100 matches will someone shoot me if I haven't killed anyone recently
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I spent something like 1m after they announced that you don't need spacecoins. Buying a hullcracker every day.
Buying bullets and stuff etc.
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>>565083092
I knew I would be kicking myself if I didn't get it. Now, I just need to decide on a new head and hair! I think I'll probably skip trying hard this season, getting to only really play on the weekend to try and boost my chances as much as possible was a real let down.
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lizard print my beloved. I was sure they'd forgotten about it since it's been so long
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Considering both the new event and the new project all have 27 days to be completed i think i'll just save them for post-expedition

>>565139251
What has your strategy been?
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th...thanks
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>>565142291
Not him, but I have 100k as well. Every Tom, Dick and Harry is doing the Harvester and Matriarch events. That's a trap. Queen/matriarch is dead in 3 to 5 Minutes and you can spawn all the way on the other side of the map.
I did mostly the new map. A shitton of enemies and they respawn pretty quickly.
The turbine is a waste of time in my opinion
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>>565142291
literally kill any big arc you know how
>spam wolfpacks
>spam seeker grenades
>spam hullcrackers
>spam jupiter
its all good
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>>565144007
>Salvages into gun parts
What a crutch. They should nerf that and only give you metal parts
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I've given it some thought, I dont mind the duration burn at all. For one stack of large ammo my anvil4 dropped 36 durability. Sorry freegros.
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>>565144690
Should be more. Anvil is only to break off armor. Then you'll finish it off with a hairpin.
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Question, this is my first Expedition: Does my level reset as soon as I "embark" it once I hit 100k, or do I have to wait the 12 days?
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>>565144471
Unfortulately i basically didn't play this cycle, so i used everything i had to rush the expedition so i don't think i have the resources to actually farm. I'll try to get at least 2 points i guess but i'm poor as shit
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>>565145560
I guess thats part of the point they wanted
you're supposed to use all your money and stuff from over the season

I would just buy hullcrackers from the shop and use those
they're good enough, if you're in PvE lobbies you shouldn't lose it to PvP
might have to farm scrutiny for arc metal and craft your own ammo
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woooohoooo
>>565145415
we all reset in 12 days together
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>>565145560
It's easy to get damage really.
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>>565145867
>we all reset in 12 days together
Aw. Follow up question, though I think I know the answer: After we get back to lvl 1, are we map restricted again? For example, I think at lvl 1 we can only go to dam, then once we hit lvl 5 or whatever we can go to burried city?
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>>565145867
Some guy I ran into my my first game gave me one that he made, and I just found a Turbine in a courier so get on those asap since the boss is absolute aids to fight.
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>>565144983
Nah fuck that
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>>565146142
no, that stuff stays "unlocked"
like you can aolo vs trio mode from level 1, but you have to be level 40 originally to unlock it

the weird thing that gets reset is your workbenches, so some anons take to reorganizing them to how they like, since its based on the order you unlock them
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>>565146142
There are no map restrictions, but your quests are reset unfortunately. People have been bitching since the first.
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>>565146176
I've got a couple turbines from killing one earlier luckily
but thats good to hear they are in couriers, I have a feeling this boss is going to be so ass to loot unless you're right next to it
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>>565146282
Shitter
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>>565146449
New item crafted with this turbine thing is complete crap.
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anyone trying to trade 2 turbines for a gold ship, i really don't have the patience or time to find a lobby that wants to fight it.
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neat
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>>565137143
>You must have gotten extremely lucky then.
played two games and everyone was super friendly and chill, the dad gamers are howling at the moon tonight
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>>565146282
its the pve guy fuming all day that the devs nerfed the durability.
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this is the last straw, im going to Marathon and never going back. Bungie does right by it's players.
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You can find anvil splitters on the new map btw.
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Nintendo won. Arc Raiders lost
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>>565136221
Last expedition I was shot at twice. Once while looting a supply drop, the 2nd some random in Stella took a potshot at me and didn't chase.
This expedition I haven't been shot at a single time. And in the current stage of everybody giving zero fucks about cash and farming damage as much as possible I don't see why they would. It's always funny when terminally itchy trigger fingers believe these lobbies don't exist.
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pvpGODS win again baby
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>posts his own review
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If pvpniggers win when players quit the game, why are they so against dedicated pve queues?
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Of course I would get the smoke BP a couple weeks away from expedition and after I finish the assessor event.
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PEANUT IS STREAMING
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Hotshots report in with the drip.
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almost done collecting these stupid ass boats

need 2 more green ones
1 pink one
3 yellows
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>>565136221
Keep pulling aggro so I can enjoy the fields of Chungartha without you. Thank you fren.
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>>565152571
found in the drawer here, on EMS for any wondering
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>>565152571
was about to post that you needed 5
glad I looked and you only need 1
>>565152273
gusss I only need 2 more green boats and I can stop doing the stupid beach shit
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>>565152805
>gusss I only need 2 more green boats and I can stop doing the stupid beach shit
boats can be found anywhere on any map
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>>565153421
I've only had luck on the beach and that hotel
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>>565153421
I found one earlier on Blue Gate, no modifiers at the entrance to Blue Gate.
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>>565153606
meant for>>565153518
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>>565153606
good to know at least, might mess with bird city while everyone is busy killing arc
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Would be cool if I could 5:1 keys into a higher rarity key.
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>>565154708
patrol keys would be nerfed in rarity then because they are so dogshit and so common
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>shot in the back while breaching a door on buried city day raid
>call the guy an asshole and a rat and describe what he's wearing so people can stay away or kill him
>he defibs me instead and when someone nearby asks what happened he goes "oh he's alive he's just whining like a bitch"
>call him a cunt or whatever and he tells me to "get good at the game and learn to pvp" or something like that
the fucking irony
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>Embark's event description for the assessor event: loot is shit, go kill arc
>found 2 weapon bps there in a weapon cache where the ammo is
um, please fix this.Not the description. The bps should not appear there
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>>565155854
that is pvp to them
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>>565155854
Bro called you a crybaby and let you live lmao
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>>565155854
I'm supposed to side with your whiny ass?
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>>565157373
>>565157785
bait used to be believable
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>try to spend all my spacecoins
>See Remote raider flares
>Let's do queen and Matriarch events and set them off after their dead and everybody's looting

>wait wha-
>WHO DIED?
>did you hear that?
>I saw the flare
>*Set up another one
>*Activate it
>What is HAPPENING!
>I have defib where are you?
Went better than I expected
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>People saying lobbies would be a deathmatch with the damage change
>Me, the intellectual, realize this theory is dumb because if people were to go ape, then they would be put into PvP lobbies, away from my PvE lobbies.
>Patch day comes and turns out I was right.
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>People plant two deadlines
>One downs them, the other kills them and sents them back to the lobby
>second deadline doesn't even count for the expedition, the game doesn't register it
Just stealing damage that could be done by somebody else. Stupid deadline suicide bombers
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>>565150259
These retards would blame the game when they fall for the wallet inspector
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Feels good to clear out my inventory of the random junk I collected in case they were going to be used for events.
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>sign up for the expedition
didn't you do that already? or are there people who shove all this material into the expedition and then right at the end they decide that they don't want to do it? Just throw away all kind of stuff for no benefit, what? I thought you had to confirm that you want to lose all your shit at the start.
what happens if you say no?
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Embark dev here.
On second thought, we're going back to the $3m total value system and original time window of 7 days, 6 now
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>>565158931
The progress stays there and you can sign up next season
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>>565158863
Yup. I had various dumb shit as well. All gone now. Gonna enjoy my dude a bit longer with all the bps, having space in the stash. Max level. Thanks reddit gamer dads for making Embark postponing the expedition date
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>>565159059
>2m in the bank
>1.8 stash value
No problem, boss
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>>565159101
Ahhh, for really slow gamer dads who only play once a month.
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jesus, hotel at night has some phat loot
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>>565159884
most of that is from room 208 which is two floors and includes a hallway
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>>565159172
Yup. Always felt good to have random junk at the ready for these dumb event requirements.
>Please collect 10 garlic presses.
>Already half-way there boss.
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>havent even laid eyes on an epic or legendary boat yet
>apparently need 5 epics and 1 legendary to do this fuckass project
Shit's unreal.
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>>565160952
>Less time to do it after the reset
I guess I'm trading seeds to finish this project. Fuck you reddit for giving us less time after the reset for this project
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how/where do I "turn in" my ships? Do I just sell them like any other trinket?
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>>565162035
into the trophy thing
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>use riven tides key at night
>hostile lobby
>flares everywhere
>almost extract camped
wtf I hate keys now
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>STILL can't mix and match gear
why tho
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I hear that the updated wasn't well received. What happened?
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Got downed by a hacker and the game's not even showing the 3 dots to report him/view his profile lmao. This retarded dogshit game is so cooked
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>>565163175
the game is technically early access in how far in devolopment it is
maybe I'm coping, but I'm expecting one day they'll do a "fashion update" where you can mix and match, and you can use all the toggles from all the outfits, as long as they don't overlap, maybe have slots for where they are on your body or whatever, like torso, arms, legs
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>>565163342
pvecucks now have to repair their guns made ouf of garbage more often or spend more resources on better guns instead of gloating that they have 120 guns in their stash that they will never use
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>>565163648
That sounds great, actually.
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>>565163723
yeah it's a great resource sink that was needed, esp now that you don't need to keep 3 mil around
it was retarded that you could shit out more damage out of some of the white weapons in their lifetime than purples as well.
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>it's a "everyone sits on top of tall towers and shoots at players 5,000 meters away and even if they kill them they'll never find the body to loot it" map

Oh fuck yes, this is exactly what the playerbase has been asking for. This will surely save this dying game
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>>565164157
you can easily fix that with either
>increasing damage falloff on guns
>buffing shields (pls buff heavies)
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>>565163342
Entitled niggers being afraid of player power decreases encouraging economic choices and usage of mechanics, simple as.
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I'd be fine with the drastic nerf to everything but pink weapons IF we had more pink weapons. Now I can't use the cowboy aug because the highest rarity pistol is a giga-nerfed blue. If we had at least one pink for every weapon type, then I'd be fine with this change.
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>>565165620
a pink pistol would be nice to have eventually
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last time i played, i kept getting thrown into carebear lobbies. whenever i tried to force my way out by killing people, the entire lobby jumps me in retaliation. is it still like this
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>>565166051
abmm is still in the game and it's completely retarded, so most likely yes
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Are PvE lobbies just dead? I've died 20 times in a row without shooting anyone at all and i'm still getting randomly shot on sight. Just got shot in the back while calling extraction. Why the fuck am i not in PvE lobbies yet? This damage dealing expedition thing is going to be fucking aids in PVP lobbies
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>>565166287
pvp lobbies while being geared for pve is optimal because you can compete when needed and there is less competition for big arc kills overall
you do need a friend or two because solo pvp is aids
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>>565166051
Why don't you like pvp?
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>>565166287
Then embrace it and get the damage killing other players
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>>565166287
had multiple lobbies where im rocking a bobcat and bettina. all carebear. you might be unlucky.
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>>565165772
Yes
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>>565166585
Its genuinely just not worth it. You get fuck all damage from players, its like the equivalent of killing 3 wasps. Its also infinitely more dangerous, means you're constantly losing good gear you could be using to hunt down big arc. Like with everything in this game PvP is just for fun, if you want any progress on anything PvE lobbies are infinitely better
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crash mat recipe
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>>565168064
I want the rocket boots in the game already.
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>>565168590
won't happen
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>>565163342
basically unless all you do is run bobcats on stella and murder then you get punished
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>>565166287
I've noticed a LOT more rats in my lobbies (haven't killed a person so far this wipe). Either they messed with the matchmaking a bit or there's a lot more players intentionally breaking the abmm.
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Is it just me or did Embark make this project progress way slower than the others?
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>>565169414
Sorry the event, not the project.
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So like the turbine sucks. I thought we were going to get a new boss like the Matriarch or Queen. Its just a flying piece of shit. It doesn't do anything interesting, it just looks like a floating turd. Its extremely borind on every level of gameplay
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>>565169296
aggression resets on patch, tardo
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this update was the nail in the coffin

this is abysmal lol, it's like anti-fun
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>>565172493
>we are in an era of entitled niggers hijacking games for quick dopamine
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>>565169414
Think so.
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I randomly looted TWO of the new blueprints, which had to be an insane probability, and when I went near an extract I was instantly shot multiple shots in a row by someone camping a tower with a Renegade right near the extract. He was super far away and shot me like 4 times in a row, didn't miss a shot. When I went to the post-map screen I couldn't report him or see his profile for some unknown reason

There's a 100% chance he knew what was in my inventory too, that was just way too coincidental that I have the fucking Terminator hunting me down right when I loot 2 blueprints. Disgusting. Feels awful
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>>565173830
bps are split by map, condition and container type, no shit if you're running the new map you're gonna get new bps
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>>565172493
I love having to waste one million mechanical parts to repair a weapon so i can shoot it twice before having to repair again or get shot in the back by a free kitter who invested nothing. Every single thing they change about the game just makes it so playing free kits is always better
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>>565174293
>weapons that take 1/15th of materials now can output slightly above half damage per lifetime compared to top-tier weaponry instead of thousands more
>"so i can shoot it twice before having to repair again"
Black and white brainlets are in fashion I see.
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what is it with swedes and their "all must suffer" balancing
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>>565175270
>Good dev makes live service game
>Game is very sucessful at launch
>Corporate sends devs to make new project
>Game's post-launch content is handled by timmy, CEO's cousin who majored in finance and balances everything by looking at a spreadsheet, never played the game
many such cases
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>>565175445
I understand this will be in vain but can you understand or at least explain why the durability change is viewed as a negative?
Please shit out something more than just "nerf bad", I beg you.
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>>565169414
its slow but with high RNG since the golden ships are worth 300
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>>565175613
250
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>>565175602
nta it makes it more annoying to deal with weapons breaking
if they increased total durability at the same time you wouldn't have to worry about weapons breaking mid game as much but still have to worry about more burn upkeep
but it would also be more of a buff to people with stacked expeditions since they can do big repairs
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>>565174164
No you fucking retard, I looted Powered Descender and crash mat blueprints from the SAME container. Then I get targeted by a guy zapping renegade shots without missing from across the map. That's definitely not some cooky coincidence, you retarded gorilla nigger.
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>>565175786
im not talking about the "Terminator"
learn to read
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>>565175747
>improved resource sinks (massive PvE problem somewhat fixed)
>more incentive to make and bring high-tier weaponry
>less longevity meaning people who bring good gear get more opportunity to do things/reasons to stay longer on a map
So it all amounts to it just being "annoying" that you have to look at a single number and make sure that it's above half? Are these faggots for real?
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>>565175602
What does it actually accomplish besides making them game more tedious? I hate to answer a question with another question but what is the positive you're seeing in this? Every weapon that was overpowered despite being low tier is still overpowered, they just made them annoying to use. This is just increasing the chore factor of the game without adressing any problem
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>>565176223
There's no tedium in it, the amount of resources invested simply became representative in weapon longevity.
More than 50% durability is still plenty to do things that you want to do in any given raid.
Also the 3 points here >>565176205
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>>565175878
You're honestly fucking autistic. The point I'm making here is that 1) I looted two blueprints (from the SAME container, which is highly improbable, but the point is that I had 2 desirable blueprints on me at the same time, as a free kit), blueprints that most people DO NOT have yet (because the blueprints are brand new) and then 2) when I went to extract with said desirable blueprints, I was immediately targeted by someone good enough to the point where they were very likely hacking.

Clearly this was not coincidental. Hackers can 100% see if you are carrying desirable items. This one did, and then targeted and raped me. The cherry on top is that this retarded game wouldn't even let me report him for some reason!
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>>565176205
You know what would actually be a good incentive to bring high-tier weaponry? If it was actually better. The game's balance is completely out of whack. TTK is too low, shields barely change the TTK at all per tier. There's no incentive to bring "good gear" because everyone will still be running around with Anvil IVs. There's no purple gun in this game that is actually impactfully better than the greens and blues to the point where this makes a difference. A stitcher can still kill you in seconds. You will absolutely not see more people running pinks and yellows because of this, you're just going to see people running the same gear they always have except now the entire community is bogged down by more endless grind of having to repair shit over and over.
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>>565176459
>continues about his terminator shit
cheating is an industry and ESP is a thing, what more is there to say?
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>>565176550
Why wouldn't this retarded game let me report him?
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>>565176527
PvP lobbies are almost entirely blues/pinks and the occasional anvil/arpeggio here and there, the performance disparity is already enough to make an impact there.
I'm not going to say that it impacts solo PvP because it doesn't, as most encounters are defined by initiative/ambushes, but you are being partially retarded that a change like this is mutually exclusive to something like a global shield buff.

Incleasing TTK by ~20% would solve quite a bit of issues, but as you can see we have shitters on suicide watch being adverse to any friction created, which will also be true for a this type of change as consistency is harder to maintain than a single outburst of success (aimlets/positionlets/utilitylets will incessantly whine).
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>>565176891
The game's pvp is too overwhelmingly decided by initiative, which extremely sucks for a game where you are actively investing resources to be able to play. It also just lowers the skill ceiling dramatically. The game desperately needs for every shield to be better but on top of that for mediums and heavies to actually be considerably better and desirable to run. This entire genre is centered around the idea that items are king, and the items you bring should matter. Right now you get shot in the back and unless you get lucky or the opponent is genuinely retarded there's almost no chance of you winning that encounter, its either run or die. If the TTK was higher people would be less afraid of bringing more gear and not getting ratted by some dude with a free kit. If you have a pink inventory you should fucking rule over free kits. It should be like in Tarkov where you're playing a scav and you see a PMC with a level 5 helmet and a NASA-build M4 and you have to decide if its even feasible for you to defeat them. Because if gear doesn't matter then literally nothing in the entire gameplay loop matters. Increasing durability burn doesn't solve this, it just makes the game more annoying, its trying to fix the games problems by making it so its annoying to be efficient with the shit that the devs are giving us
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>>565177458
I'm just waiting for a shield buff man, I agree, but this change is fine, albeit not as high of a priority as TTK increases.
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holy PHUCK I am so tired of seeing all these "I'M FROM HD2" "AS A HELLDIVERS VETERAN" "COMING FROM HD2" shitters complaining about the new patch
WHY is there such an overlap of whiny faggots playing this game and Helldivers 2?
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>>565177930
>be hd2
>game made for grueling team based combat
>it's too hard for shitters to stick together and think about anything that they are doing
>whine everywhere about muh casuals
>marketing team filled with faggots and trannies jacking off to player numbers instead of game integrity
>entire game gets reworked into a braindead rambo shooter that requires 0 braincells to play
>fotm goes away, same faggots move to different games
>they now expect devs to cave in to their whims and ruin games for quick dopamine
Here you go.
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>>565177458
>>565177580
This game truly has the worst shield mechanics I've seen in my life, imagine playing games for 20 years and then you make a game where the shields literally do nothing
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>>565178232
The concept of "chip damage" is perfectly fine, it's that the deflection % should be higher.
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>>565178284
>If you are good at pvp you get put into lobbies with russian cheaters who have multiple VAC steam bans

Cool game, guess Ill just have to lose on purpose
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>>565178508
what does that have to do with shields?
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>>565178139
absolute faggots
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>>565179240
Here's an example
>big badass top of the line enemy that has 13!!! different strippable armor plates that both dismember and partially disable that enemy
>niggers can't figure out that you have to work with your team (1 guy to strip armour plating and another 1 to unload into the exposed circuitry, while the other 2 defend you from small fry)
>crying ensues
>devs fold
>Anti-Tank weapons get overbuffed TO THE FUCKING ANDROMEDA GALAXY
>same enemy is now just oneshot
>mechanics gone
>enemy is a shell of former self
>provides no support to smaller units
>just a walking sack of HP on the battlefield that doesn't even have to be player around
That was supposed to be the most threatening unit of the faction btw.
Same patterns here
>difficulty = bad
>effort = bad
>learning = bad
>teamwork = bad
>friction = bad
>mechanics = bad
>explode screen for dopamine with 0 IQ? = good
And the same niggers keep wondering why modern games are shallow and uncreative.
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>>565179779
any kind of friction and difficulty in games is just bad huh
and when they are presented with some they just pull the THIS GAME DOESN'T RESPECT MY TIME
the same kind of people that play singleplayer games on the easiest difficulty I'm sure
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Trials set color being Cantina Legend again is so fucking ass. It is LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE unless you are in the group rigging it.

Why do they make the coolest set colors actually impossible to get???
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>>565180056
HD2 could have been the greatest team shooter on the market overshooting even DRG by miles, but they threw away everything for a quick buck and are now printing bazillions of useless premium packs with weapons that have 0 gameplay impact because at the current state of the game it doesn't matter what stuff you pick, what strategy you choose, what teammate setups you do, you just shoot at the enemies and they fold on their own.

I'm tired boss.
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trials is such a dog ass system i cannot be bothered to give a single fuck and i haven't played since the last reset.
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>>565177458
Why is decisive combat bad though, we've had head eyes before, just make it so free loadouts can't head eyes proper kits and that's it imo, decisive combat when it's prepped vs prepped is fine, buff all shields and make a special worse shield for free loadout, idk.
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after giving it some time, the weapon durability is actually ok. you just can't use the anvil. shitter common weapons burning durability makes sense and they're cheap as fuck to repair but 5 mechanical and 5 simple weapon kits every 1.5 rounds adds up too fast

this patch is basically just a big anvil nerf
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>>565182725
it seems that anvil and renegade were hit the hardest, two multi-purpose guns in green and blue tier with a bettina buff hmmmmmge
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>do a few matriarch and queen matches
>already at the last skill point for the damage challenge
man this shit is easy
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>>565182132
less combat time = less things happening
longer TTK would mean more utility usage, more re-positioning, re-engaging etc.
solo PVP currently is just "who shot first", and turnarounds are basically an exception rather than the rule.
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>guy shoots first
>then asks if friendly
the people who play this game...
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>>565187204
tbf you can't really afford not to in most cases
you're either a full cuck or you shoot first
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Game fell off hard it feels like it was never meant to have post launch support
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welp
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I see lots of comments about increasing the TTK, and I agree fully.
A simple shield buff would solve this, as in: having a shield actually matters in mitigating damage and meaningfully increasing your survivability.
Instead of gradual weapon nerfs, simply buff every kind of shield by at least 50%, but more like 100% and the game would instantly feel a lot better.
TTK currently is too fucking low.
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>this is a real unironic post btw
I can never have fun again ating ARC Raiders. The guns are broken, the new map is mid, the photoelectric cloak nerf makes the game completely unplayable, weapons repairing upon upgrade just allows the rats to kill me more, and the map fixes and tweaks do not help me defeat other players in gun to gun combat.

I have put 791.4 hours into this game, I paid $40 at launch and I feel like the devs just don't give a single crap about me or my contributions to this game (which include killing over 5000 Raiders). If the devs don't get their head out of their asses and start making this game more accessible to serious diehard players like me, then I'm gonna have to be forced to only play this game 40 hours a week instead of the 80 I'm putting in now.

Also, I'm a DAD and now I can't enjoy this game anymore. Anyone else a DAD?
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>>565190042
glad those are done

hope I'm in a sweaty leaderboard so I don't rank up
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>>565192513
NOOOO
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ok this one seems annoying
>kill 2 wasps
>
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Wait what, the concept art looked so much better than what we got. It's actually wild.
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just noticed 3* is only 3000 points

I guess thats ok with the no 2x points anymore
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>>565194471
it is a shame we couldn't have gotten some beach side city instead of some small vacation resort
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>>565196334
Embark shills on plebbit claim it's not the same map. I call BS. Honestly the only cool part of the map is the hotel, and I thought the map was great because I'm there 90% of the time. Then when you look around you realize the map is tiny and got nothing going for it besides. No access to water on a coastal level is retarded.
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>>565194471
>thinking we'd get this much verticality
but it could also be a different place in the works
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glad thats over
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>>565200503
how many grenades?
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>>565201647
it is so weird idk

I made like 6 stacks of grenades, threw them all, and got 1k points
against a bombadier

another match I hear a Bastion shooting, and figured someone else is doing the same thing, so I leave it
find a dead bombadier
run back
bastion is still shootin
run up and throw maybe 10 grenades at it
get that score

so not sure what is determing the damage, I guess I was only hitting armored parts on the bombadier so its less damage?
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>>565201647
>>565202502
also while youtubing, other raiders are mentioning only using10-12 so I must have just gotten really unlucky with the bombadier

I assumed 10-12 stacks, and was surprised I got my 3* after using like 2 stacks
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>>565202502
>>565202629
maybe splash damage hitting other bits like the legs?
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>>565202847
oh yea might be something like that, I dont really remember where I was aiming, I was just throwing and trying not to get shot
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>beachcombing is fucking awful
>only cool spot is the hotel
>literally haven't even seen the new arc
>new project is a doomgrind for toy boats
is this update actually ass?
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>>565203907
new arc only has a chance to spawn at 15 and 10min left

so a lot of people are completely missing it by extracting early
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>>565203907
>>beachcombing is fucking awful
agreed
only like 2-3 people can do it or you're all stepping on each other
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holy shit I'm almost free

and then collect all the boats again for my alt account
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I tried using a Ferro post update and holy shit, the durability loss is insane. I don't normally use white guns anymore since moving to PvE lobbies, but I imagine PvPfags are seething.
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>>565177458
Huh, good gear absolutely matters now after all the nerfs to the greys. Unless youre in shitter lobbies, people bring pinks to matches. Bobcats, renegades, vulcanos run supreme.

The issue is now that all augs suck, and the legendaries suck especially the pvp oriented ones but the issue of low tier equipment being too strong has been solved.
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>>565203907
it's trash, but I think the worst thing is that it took them like half a year to come up with..... this

It's hilariously disappointing
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>>565207030
retard
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>>565207030
the point of the durability update is to benefit PvP players, anon. they just find guns off of bodies so they don't need to worry about them lasting
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>>565207030
>I don't normally use white guns anymore since moving to PvE lobbies, but I imagine PvPfags are seething.
PvP fags are using Bobcats and Vulcanos with snap hooks.
Its the PvE fags getting upset because their Anvil breaks every two matches now.
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>>565175602
Remember when you could go to McDonald's and buy three McDouble's for five dollars? Now you may only buy one?
Same five but less effective. Same gun but less effective.
Instead of blasting thirty arc you may only blast ten of them, a little hyperbole but same drop.
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>>565208560
>nerf bad
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>>565176589
Remember his name and look through your history, he might still be on the list.
Remember though this game like like that situation out where politicians and rich people could snipe civilians for a fee, cheaters are allowed to play if they are like Tfue or Bat credit card holders.
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>>565182794
Buy a PS5 and pay the PS+ & fatigue tax. Less cheaters but a whole lot more ratting.
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>>565208997
>Buy a PS5 and pay the PS+
at that point you're dishonoring yourself more than the retards who use cheats
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>>565208760
>embark dick riding
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>>565209214
>pvecuck woke up
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>>565208348
you can beat the entire game with a hairpin and in-round crafting if all you're doing is pvecucking.
you can even beat a queen with your fucking pickaxe if you know the tech.
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>>565209917
>you can beat the entire game
do credits play at the end?
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Got 30k damage last night casually planting 3-4 deadmines and shooting arc that appears in my path. This damage thing is pretty easy why were people bitching? I guess if you're on vacation during the 5 days that would suck but this thing is fucking easy.

After they revert the nerfs next week, will people also realize this durability nerf was a big nothing burger?
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>>565210128
>After they revert the nerfs next week
I'm honestly expecting the devs to tell everyone whining about it to go fuck themselves.
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>>565209321
I've been awake

oh you're talking about some other anon
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>>565210458
Since you're sharing the same braincell I see no reason to change my attitude regardless.
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>>565188870
Devs moved to the two other games they are making
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>>565210365
>I'm honestly expecting the devs to tell everyone whining about it to go fuck themselves.
After they extended the expedition window to a nearly whole damn month and the damage needed was 100k, I think they're going to walk back the change or at least reduce the burn rate of the guns.
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>>565210627
didn't ask you to

just thought it was a funny reply
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>>565211070
Embark didn't walk back on any balancing change period. Extended expedition windows are not an indicator of anything but a correction for the late notice.
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>>565211070
they'll likely increase the amount of damage you do
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>>565211486
amount of damage you need to do*
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>>565209321
Good morning swedish cock sucker, hard at sucking I see
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>>565211321
>Embark didn't walk back on any balancing change period.
No other balance change was as hated as this by the community plus the balance changes were needed.
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I think the balance was good, maybe repair my anvil every 1-2 matches, but its cheap and gives me something to do
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>>565210128
The bitching was less the damage and more the fact it was announced 2 weeks before the window with no indication of a extension and no clear indicator of the damage requirements, or how it would work. If it had been communicated at the start of the expedition the bitching would be minimal.
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>>565163723
>>565163965
I know, right? The game was unplayably bad before this. How did we ever like it?
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>>565212180
>community
Has proven itself to be completely braindead. Only time will tell.
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>>565212180
I was fine with the WolfPack change since it forced git'n gud.

The durability change was not as bad as I had anticipated when I finally got to play. I just loaded up with an anvil, stack of large ammo (60 is nice), and would switch to whatever 2nd gun I found which was a Burletta for most matches. Makes it harder to freekit, but I dont know if its balanced.

The photoelectric cloak was a straight nerf. Didn't reduce the cost to match the usage reduction, can't buy more than 5 a day, there was no balancing there at all.

I just feel like embark is trying to waste my time with a bunch of these changes.

>just farm more resources
>manage your metal harder now
>oh you're making too much money off arc parts
>here's a flying arc that deals close range fire damage, we're nerfing shotguns tho haha
>uhh now your grenades are more expensive to craft so you'll rely on guns more
>oop, you're shooting way too much
>we're going to increase durability burn during the expedition damage window :)

Games in a weird place.
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>>565213713
>people are using nades
>nerf grenades
>now people are using guns and avoidance items like cloak cause nades are no longer good
>nerf guns and cloak
Cloak did need a nerf but I wonder what the next balance decision will be. A direct anvil nerf to reduce its magazine size to 4 is my bet
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>>565175613
>>565175726
I kind of hate that you have to play the new map for the ships. It basically forces you to play it if you want to complete the event.
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>>565214071
They could have reduced the cost to make photoelectric cloaks at least. It's like they just outright nerf shit to make the game harder by slaughtering economy and nerfing weapons, but hey at least the purples and yellows you bring to boss fights burn out 5-10% less!
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>>565214223
retard
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>spawn
>there are 10 ARC in your immediate vicinity, so good luck going anywhere without fighting ARC :)
>also if you decide to fight ARC, you're going to alert the other ARC who you will not have to fight
>fighting a bunch of ARC, are we? Well guess what, you've just alerted 5 other raiders to your location and none of them have any ARC chasing them for some reason
>trying to run away? not so fast! Here's that flying flamer ARC that shoots fire 20 feet behind you but for some reason the flames still catch you on fire

Wow! This new map is so FUN! I'm glad these retarded autistic Swedes' #1 priority in this game is how fun things are, like imagine if they just completely failed to even consider the "fun" factor when making these goofy updates? They'd probably end up making so very un-fun, rage baity dogshit.
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>>565214223
>I kind of hate that you have to play the new map for the ships
i think ships are on all maps, got a couple outside of the new map
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>>565214389
>none of them have any ARC chasing them for some reason
Silencers?
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>>565214389
>unironically complaining about the arc on the new map
Man what the fuck, git gud oh my god.
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>>565214389
>map threat level 5
>OH MY GOD ALL THE ARC
please kys
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>>565214389
Imagine this after the expedition. I'll never play the new map at first, because there was a leaper and 5 flying arc right outside my spawn.
>Embark: kill them with your hairpin!
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>>565214389
>who you will not have to fight

who you will now* have to fight
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>>565215038
Man you're so close
Retard there is a progression to the map much like the gear. You start out on the easy maps then farm the harder maps with arc as you level up. WOAH CRAZY CONCEPT RIGHT
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>>565215592
Jupiter was at 100 when I started I'm pretty sure, either way, I was fully expecting it to break or be almost broken, guess it can handle like 7 or 8 stacks of energy ammo (I usually only bring in 3)
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>>565215854
forgot pic
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>>565214389
I like the new map, but I've been swarmed by like 7 wasps, hornets, and flamers multiple times between the hotel, beach, and extractions. All I can think about is how gay it is that they increase the volume, introduce a damage qualifier for the expedition, and then increase the burn rate on 61% of the available weapon pool. Fucking insane to me
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>>565216278
>high tier map
>use low-tier weapons
>get overwhelmed
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embark dick riders just can't help but glaze these dogshit developers
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>>565216860
git gud or lower the difficulty
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>>565216860
dam battleground is more your speed
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>>565214389
I bet this guy still gets killed by shredders
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>>565216518
>Dude, the map is SUPPOSED to not be fun, you idiot!

Don't you cocksuckers (gargling Embark's hairy ballsack in the most pathetic, cuckolded way possible) realize that you're defending the company ruining your favorite wittle game?

You're defending the gaming company just taking a big steamy smelly shit all over this game that you're obviously very emotionally invested in. Once nobody plays this game anymore (it's already objectively dying btw, everyone knows this) you will no longer be able to be cuckolded by Embark, because nobody will be critiquing this game, because nobody will play it anymore. Ironically, you are actively helping the game die by being such pathetic little cucks
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>>565216953
Sorry I keep getting gud and embark keeps nerfing shit, can't wait for them to start nerfing purples and golds
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>>565217138
>ruining your favorite wittle game
I got everything what I pair for and more, your seethe is complimentary.
Go back to some shallow shithole slop like cod.
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>>565217264
Keep suckin, devs about to bust
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>>565217210
buck broken by a single nerf
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>>565214389
Honestly I think the Arc are less annoying on this map than they are on maps like Blue Gate. At least cover is plentiful here.
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>>565217456
this
especially since wasps destroy you now
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>>565217264
>I enjoy paying for a dying game :)
>checkmate!

Cool man, I kind of don't think that's true or you wouldn't be spending 24/7 defending a video game against valid critiques from anonymous posters on the internet
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>>565217640
>dying
fotm fag lul
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>>565217440
single nerf lol embark has nerfed
Ferro
Hairpin
Kettle
Rattler
Stitcher
Anvil
Arpeggio
Burletta
Il Toro
Canto
Osprey
Renegade
Torrente
Venator
Photoelectric
Credits gained from selling arc parts
Trigger ‘Nade
Trailblazer Grenade
Blaze Grenade Trap
Lure Grenade
Wolfpack
Deadline
Showstopper

and they've only buffed the bettina, keep dick riding faggot
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>>565217138
>>Dude, the map is SUPPOSED to not be fun, you idiot!
It is fun though. Sorry your sorry ass can't handle more than 2 wasps at a time. Literally get inside lel. How bad are u?
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>>565217752
>scared of nerfs instead of understanding the reasoning behind them
yawn
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>>565217752
>DUDE LETS KEEP THE GREEN SHOTGUN TWO TAPPING EVERY SHIELD BUT HEAVY FROM 30 M OUT
>NO NERFS EVER
>JUST BUFF EVERYTHING SO EVERY GUN CAN TWO TAP FROM 30 M OUT
>I AM SMART
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>>565217752
>chronically seething at player power level decreases
>6 months later
>WHERE CONTENT
>WHY ARE GAMES SO SHALLOW
>MY CHOICES DONT MATTER HURR DURR
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>>565217752
>>565217934
Huh. Maybe, could it be, that all of these extremely reactionary nerfs are a signal that Embark doesn't really know what it's doing when it comes to balancing the game? And that it's just firing from the hip when it comes to "balance"?

Maybe this gaming company doesn't really grasp the residual and secondary effects of constantly nerfing/changing weapons that people had been enjoying and had just gotten used to?

Just a thought!
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>>565218454
open a spreadsheet once in your life faggot
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>>565218454
>Trigger Nade, Torro, Veneator
>extremely reactionary nerf
You are retarded
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>>565166512
lol, gottem
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>>565218735
>>565218962
>"ARC are obnoxious and make the game not fun"
>ummm get good! You suck at the game! Go back to Dam!

>"Damn these guns/grenades are really good and I enjoy killing people with them"
>EMBAAAAAARK! NERF THIS GUN! NERF THIS ITEM! NERF IT, IT'S TOO GOOD!

Yeah, so I'm thinking this is just another instance of Embark leaning heavily into anti-fun demands from PvE pussies while this game dies a miserable slow death
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>>565166287
Reverse boosting was always a larp. You are where you belong.
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>>565219271
>he thinks players and ARC have the same threat level
>triggers/toro/venator plaguing literal streamer sweat pvp lobbies
>DIS IS AKSHUALLY PVEKEKS
no coherency in thought for a single second of your miserable life
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I love how the glazing faggots havent proposed their list of everything they buffed

Aphelion buffed
Jupiter buffed
Bettina buffed
Heavy Ammo stack buffed
Epic weapon durability buffed
Legendary weapon durability buffed

Dogshit balance, glazers get the rope
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>>565219657
>you need 50 buffs to compensate for 3 nerfs
i am dissapoint
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>>565219559
>difficult ARC good
>difficult PvP bad

This is literally what your viewpoint boils down to. It's not my fault you're a fucking retard and fail miserably at obfuscating your simple (retarded) argument.
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>>565220214
not a single pve enemy is hard in the game
a fucking freeshitter with a kettle exerts more threat than a queen

you are genuinely fucking braindead if you think that something that can
>poke you
>push you
>flush you out of cover with explosives
>outsmart you
>revive allies
>regenerate health
>wipe you in 0.7s with headshots
is in any way comparable to things that can be
>countered by staying behind a wall
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>>565219271
>>"Damn these guns/grenades are really good and I enjoy killing people with them"
>>EMBAAAAAARK! NERF THIS GUN! NERF THIS ITEM! NERF IT, IT'S TOO GOOD!
>Thinking Torro and Venetaor didnt deserve the nerf
Absolute stupid
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In case anyone was worrying about having to kill a Turbine for the compressors, you can find them inside Arc Couriers. I just looted one.
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>>565219754
dissapointed because the embark dick fell out your mouth
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anyone have the bug that the main menu lags and nothing can be clicked?
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>>565220929
Any condition or just the weather ones?
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>>565221321
Constantly. In every single part of the menu. I have to back out and go back into the crafting/trader (all of them bug out) menu
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>>565210128
>announce changes to expedition at last second
>incorrect info ingame for months and even a week after the announcment
>lol why are you complaining guise
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>>565221321
>>565221650
You just can't stop bitching about the fucking game can you? Uninstall then faggots, gg
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>>565221502
Default Dam!

It's a purple so the drop rate has to be fairly low but it can drop.
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>>565222398
I like the last one
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>fill squad with randoms
>no mic because autism
>getting fucked at the hotel, one teammate pushes and goes down
>I ping 4-5 times to retreat
>Other teammate dies
>"ayo wtf anon ain't even playin da game nigga come onn goofy ahh nigga runnin away sheeeeeeeiiiiiiiittt"
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>>565182725
brother have you seen the abuse the Arpeggio got from this. Weirdly, this make the Toro a good Arc killing gun now.
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muzzle brake or compensator for anvil
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Update a little lacking. New map and Arc are cool but the new items are so bad. Why would we want these items when Snaphook does what they do but 10x better? No reason at all to go back and kill the new Arc whatsoever. Make the turbine a requirement for a badass new gun, not for a useless item. You need to at least engage with the Queen/Matriarch to craft guns that are useful, the new Arc, no reason at all to ever engage with it.

Badly need new guns. Where is my pink/yellow anvil equivalent. There is no real equal to the Anvil at the higher rarity levels.
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>>565227156
brake for semi-auto weapons, compensator for full auto weapons
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Never been a fan of the gaming its "fun" with two buddies but the combat just feels a bit sluggish
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>>565227296
>New map and Arc are cool but the new items are so bad
the cost of the jetpack thing is insane considering you can dismount most tall buildings by grabbing ledges. I guess it'll be good for rocketeer riding shenanigans but I can't picture myself packing one into a real match
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>>565228943
>the cost of the jetpack thing is insane considering you can dismount most tall buildings by grabbing ledges.
kek that too. you literally dont even need a snaphook if you're a pro at grabbing ledges, so you especially dont need a shitty item that doesnt even negate all the fall damage.
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>1 round of bird city
>1 was left in an already looted one
glad I'm done with this step before everyone starts doing it
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I noticed there is a lot more huge crashes/bangs when you're AFK in Speranza and the quests mentions the activity getting closer. Do you think the next event is going to be a massive Arc? If it's just the volcano I will be a little disappointed.
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>>565232570
get your hands off me clanker
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How does one get to be the trader who sells ammo at 45 credits per bullet but only pays 6 credits when buying the same bullet pack?
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>>565232570
>I noticed there is a lot more huge crashes/bangs when you're AFK in Speranza and the quests mentions the activity getting closer. Do you think the next event is going to be a massive Arc? If it's just the volcano I will be a little disappointed.
I was thinking that too. All this activity is leading up to something, so the big triangles were the things we saw in hurricane but the banging and SOMETHING getting closer has to be the new boss Arc, right?
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how do I get Roots
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>>565234319
stop complaining
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>>565232780
*snaps neck*

>>565233112
We already know there's a volcano event being worked on but I really hope it's not that because the seismic activity moving wouldn't make sense. It could also be something like the probes and increased raider activity is drawing the attention of the Arc so things like Orbiters are slowly approaching Speranza.
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>>565234319
try baskets & lush blooms
afaik you can always find two baskets in the battery-locked kitchen cooler in Stella Montis
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>>565234725
might try stella
lush blooms is in like 2 hours
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>>565234765
nothing in stella
guess I'll just spam lush blooms when it comes up
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>>565237768
>nothing in stella
did you do the kitchen cooler? I've definitely found roots in there, sometimes in a stack of 4. it's also good for mushrooms etc
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>>565238496
yea, but I only did 1 round and got none in there, I'm sure its just RNG
that or the other guy grabbed them first and lied about only need apricots
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>>565238496
oh its night raid on stella now, I'll try one more
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Baffling how anyone in this thread or in the wider ARC community can take the time and energy to defend these devs. The decisions they are making are incomprehensibly retarded to mortal minds and it is clear for all to see yet some people are so attached to a video game that they feel religiously compelled to defend Embark. Like bro we're just describing the bad decisions as they come its not like we're issuing a jihad on the studio, these people take critiques personally.
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>queue riven tides
>afk for 15 minutes waiting to see if turbines spawn
yeah this is super fun
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>>565240140
damn nothing again
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>>565240386
defend?
it's just whatever, feels pretty fair so far, but I don't pvp, but I guess that wouldn't matter, its not like you're firing 120 anvil shots at other raiders in one round
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>>565240650
seems they spawn on special conditions, all my lush blooms have been having them come in at 15min
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>>565241335
No, they spawn on any map condition, even none
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>>565241139
are you actually going into the cooler? the one you need a big battery to unlock? it should have two guaranteed baskets
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>>565241435
oh I guess its less often, I was doing some normal raids earlier and they werent coming in
or maybe just rng
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>>565241471
yep
its cool tho, I should probably farm some more mixed fruit anyway, I don't remember when but I've gotten like 3 roots in the process of doing that today because I almost ran out earlier today
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>bring hullcracker
>take out rocketeer
>~1000 dmg worth progress
>get rattlered I for my trouble
what is this crap? I was in the most peaceful "hey raider you need this blueprint?" lobbies before the update
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>>565241901
updates seem to soft reset abbm mmr
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>>565241901
patches usually soft-reset matchmaking
&
big patches usually bring back players who haven't played in a while, whose matchmaking has been reset by patches or otherwise dropped over time
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>spaceport matriarch
>spawn on the opposite side of the map
FUN
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how the FUCK are you supposed to three-star this shit
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>>565242624
Sorry I meant queen.
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>>565242628
snaphook to get up
2 deadlines
jet glider to get down
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>>565242340
this
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>>565242628
I solod it from across the map with a jupiter
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Damage requirements for the expedition are done.
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new Radio Renegade color from quests
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The damage numbers they show on the left of your screen are a complete lie
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>>565245153
thats exp
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>>565244505
Getting there
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>>565245068
Nice. Is the eye stripe from a previous trials reward? I use the one that covers half your head in black paint to hide some of the hairstyles bald spots.
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>>565246909
It was a twitch drop I think
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sisters? why is the sun setting in the north?
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>>565234319
the plastic bins on the new map
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freedom

now to get all that shit for my alt
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The turbine feels like a waste of time if all you are interested in doing is getting loot. It travels too much, so when you do finally kill it, you still have to run 300-500 meters, in which time some faggot that was holding his dick the whole time and didn't even know the Turbine was near, hears the explosion and loots it all. I'm fine with the difficulty of it, as it's harder to kill than a vaporizer, but it just moves too much.
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>>565248828
The Exodus program was actually to escape the calamity of a shifting of the poles/axial tilt of the earth.
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>>565249461
I guess thats why the loots so bad and its and the end of the match, I've killed and looted like 2, but as people get closer to the end of their project they'll realize they need 2 core things
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>>565249461
My main issue is having to wait 15 minutes before I can actually fight the thing
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>>565249461
my main issue is the dogshit loot
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https://youtube.com/shorts/80oyfRtwi5Y?si=13yK1QIZcAuuWQDM
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>>565251259
>shorts
>tracking link
kill
your
self
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>>565251259
dont kill yourself
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>>565251259
The option to kill yourself is always on the table.
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>>565252435
sorry meant to type do not dont
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Why the fuck is PvP still so fucking dogshit even after 6 months of patches?
>first shot advantage is king
>shield type matters less than movement & positioning
>even if you get the kill, some freekit rat FUCK is gonna fuck up your raid just because
Solo PvP is absolute pain, especially in the sweaty lobbies. Like what the fuck am I supposed to do with mid-tier gear against a LVL4 torrente + heavy shield
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>>565253010
>first shot advantage is king
>shield type matters less than movement & positioning
>"what the fuck am I supposed to do with mid-tier gear against a LVL4 torrente + heavy shield"
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>>565252390
I agree with you but
>tracking link
just use a browser that automatically strips it lol
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Is there a way to make looting better? Double clicking the item doesn't work half the time, is there a hover-loot options like rust, or even a dedicated loot key?
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>>565253010
You need to pick your battles and be opportunistic in solo, wait for others to fight it out, bring mines to cover you, even if they're just gas mines, don't be greedy and remember to dip if the area is too dangerous
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>>565254649
shift+click**** I meant, disregard previous statement except for the accidental dragging thing cancelling the movement.
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>>565179779
>big badass top of the line enemy that has 13!!! different strippable armor plates that both dismember and partially disable that enemy
>niggers can't figure out that you have to work with your team (1 guy to strip armour plating and another 1 to unload into the exposed circuitry, while the other 2 defend you from small fry)
What the hell enemy unit was that? Unless they introduced it in the last month in a half (when I stopped playing) there was never an enemy like that in Helldivers 2.
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>>565254386
yes you should
but you should also normalize shaming people who post them
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It's over. Screw expeditions I'm never doing this shit again
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these assholes

I don't want to buy the outfit but it looks so cool everytime it pops up on my home page or whatever
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>>565256550
you only get catchup points if you were a poorfag in previous expeditions
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>>565256713
Yes but not all of the missing points sadly
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>>565256647
Why are you poor?
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>>565253010
>>first shot advantage is king
Stfu about this omfg. in what game isn't that a thing?
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I was just remembering a webm I made and wondering how I didn't die

I think... ziplines can be used as lightning rods
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>>565264062
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>>565264163
oh is that what that video was showing. i was so confused.
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>>565264516
originally I was just showing anon the yellow rotating canisters that are likely weakspots
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>be me, pve faggot
>all I want to do is kill arc
>random pvpgger
>all he wants to do is pvp
>if he kills me, he gets to do something meaningful to him
>if I kill him, I get nothing because pvpgger guns are dogshit vs arc
>best I can get is living after using my meds, ammo and time
I'm not saying pvp shouldn't exist, but there should be a trader that I can give a pvpggers ear to for material things. Right now, pvp is squarely beneficial to one side, and nothing but a detriment to the other.
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>>565265492
Splitting hairs here because you never really kill anyone, but taking their shoes could be funny
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>>565266010
>because you never really kill anyone
There's zero incentive to do so, if you fight back you get aggression lobbies.
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why the FUCK is everyone camping with barricades and mines?
both the hotel on the new map and buried city
I just ran into a team that had 9 barricades placed down in pharmacia on buried city, only to run into 2 other teams doing the same shit in the vicinity during the same match
what the FUCK
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>>565267128
We fortnite now
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>>565265492
>>if I kill him, I get nothing because pvpgger guns are dogshit vs arc
>>best I can get is living after using my meds, ammo and time


I literally made a more in depth post about this week's ago. IT'S EVEN WORSE. If you win you get REWARDED with "heros " showing up to kill the rat. and even better you get sent to pvp servers for multiple matches.
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God i hate the fucking firefly so much, why did they add this enemy to the game? It genuinely feels like you cannot ever use a light or medium ammo weapon anymore else you can't kill Fireflies. God forbid you go into the raid without a medium else you better be ready to hide for 30 seconds until the firefly fucks off or spend 60+ bullets and probably take a bunch of damage trying to kill it
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>>565269812
just carry 2 seeker nades bro
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>>565265492
The game is just damned if you do, damned if you don't. There are no PvP objectives, so PvE lobbies are objectively optimal for everything the game requires you to do. But even in a PvE lobby you might get shot in the back and killed. And you can't fight back, because it will increase your agression score which will take you out of the PvE lobbies. The only correct way to play is to not engage with the game, just pretend other players dont exist and hope they don't decide to shoot you, its completely retarded.
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>reach stage 3 of the new project
>see reward is anvil4 with splitter
>expedition coming up
>lose desire to complete this step until after expedition
damn
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>>565270094
>And you can't fight back, because it will increase your agression score which will take you out of the PvE lobbies.
? Yes you can, literally just shoot them.
>NOOOOO I MIGHT GET PUT INTO PVP LOBBIES
Then suck it up for a couple rounds holy shit. These are the people complaining about the durability nerf btw. Same energy.
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>>565270568
I genuinely don't know if this is a regional thing because i play in a less populated area, but if i shoot someone i'm stuck in PvP lobbies for literally 10+ games. I have to die like 20 times in a row to get into true PvE lobbies. Shooting people is not an option, it actively goes against every single goal i want to accomplish in the game (the ones the game actually gives me)
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Devs have to be trolling with the arc quantity on Riven Tides. It feels like the wasps literally never stop spawning, not to mention that it's outright impossible to move between cover without getting spotted by the 5x flying arc rape squads. And the AI has to have changed as well, it's like they know where you are even when they aren't aggro'd.

Guessing this is more chungus "statistic based balancing" that doesn't take into account the fact that pve lobbies are totally skewing the data

>>565271149
It's mmr. There are low mmr and high mmr friendly lobbies. If you kill someone in a low mmr friendly lobby, you end up in a pvp lobby full of lobotomy patients. Kill somebody in a high mmr friendly lobby, you end up in a lobby with all of the other serial killers who just got bored of farming.
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>>565272537
>It's mmr. There are low mmr and high mmr friendly lobbies. If you kill someone in a low mmr friendly lobby, you end up in a pvp lobby full of lobotomy patients. Kill somebody in a high mmr friendly lobby, you end up in a lobby with all of the other serial killers who just got bored of farming.
Huh?
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I uhhhh, huh. This was a weird fight. At one point I shot him in the face point blank with my Anvil IV, and then he took out a Toro and shot me twice and I died.

Why didn't he die? Can someone explain this to me?
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>>565274695
Looks like a medium shield + he fully got off a recharger, so he probably healed up with a bandage or two as well.
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>>565274813
>recharger

I think you're right, that's what fooled me. Thanks
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>>565127350
https://youtube.com/shorts/xCa6Bn85jZg
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I always enjoy being in Chudgartha but it gets incredibly boring and full of redditors. I feel bad about just braining someone randomly because everyone is so chill and generous. Maybe I should set up some kind of nuke trap and torture them or something so it at least feels unique and they get some experience out of it.
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>>565275643
Do trios Stella. Most likely to get PvP straight away and that will nuke your Karma so you can get demon solo lobbies too.
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>>565203907
Trust me you will be envious for updates like this 2 years down the line when they're drip feeding Destiny 2 tier shit to you once a month, with a skipped month here and there.
I already went through this pain with Blacklight Retribution, MAG, too many games to name. They're going to come out with a super cool update about a year from now that makes the game sick as fuck, it'll get super popular for a bit, people will burn out on it and a newer cooler game that's actually shittier will come out and people will flock over to it and Arc Raiders will be no more, at best it will become like Titan Fall 2 or Spiral Knights and be propped up by like 50 players forever more, which may even be comfy for a period before they shut the servers down forever. Ah, what a concept.
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>looting breach room on buried city
>guy is super friendly and talkative
>"HEEEY cool if I loot with ya!"
>and shit like
>say "sure I just need the Red Coral Jewelry if you happen to find it"
>goes quiet
>he's not actually looting anything
>one spot missing from a residential container
>as soon as he good he says goodbye and runs away

>go back there another time
>thats where the red coral jewelry spawns

that fucker
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>>565277056
hohoh that was me and I got more than I needed and still said nothing. I want extra money for medium ammo.
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>>565277183
I just said he didn't loot anything besides one item
and there was more expensive stuff there anyway, he was probably on the same trophy step as me
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>>565277275
There was 8 in that one container.
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>>565277183
>>565277354
>he hasn't saved his Red Corals
LOL
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its hard not to use the red Hot Shot outfit all the time
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>start shooting at the new ARC from within the hotel since it landed on the hotel rooftop
>no less than 4 ARC randomly spawn in front of me, behind me, to the sides, are shooting me without ever even alerting of aggro

This new map is fucking silly lmao. Does anyone actually enjoy this? (the autists in this thread who will literally do and say anything in order to glaze Embark don't count, argue)
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>>565277794
It's like 1/4 the size of blue gate with just as many enemy spawns. It's very annoying when things get out of control and they can get out of control very fast.
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>>565277794
>ARC clipping in through the floor to zap me
>ARC clipping in through the walls while pre-firing to shoot me

this game, man. Whew lad
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>>565277369
this.
>not keeping at least one stack of every garbage item for these events.
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>>565278325
Good chance I can actually reach cantina legend now lmao
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>>565278236
Yep, and I don't necessarily even think the problem is the "amount of ARC" or the "difficulty" of the map, it's that the ARC start to bug out and start doing weird stuff when there are so many of them in a compact area, and the raid timer starts ticking down.

Obviously Embark wants it so that ARC get more aggressive as time ticks down and there are less and less players are on the map. Fair. But when you have so many ARC in such a compact area, and so many are close together or on top of each other, they start bugging out like crazy and it just becomes a hilarious shitshow of terrible AI, where shit is clipping through walls to kill you. Awful gaming experience desu, no wonder game's bleeding players
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Well, I think it's fair to say the new map sucks and isn't fun. Back to Stella Montis I go!
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almost done with the trophy on my alt
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>>565278887
>goes from shit to ass
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Beachcombing is only good if you're trying to get the model ships. Those chests give you a ton of those fuckers

Other than that you get scraps
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>>565279187
>Beachcombing
Took me forever to finally find one, risking life and limb the entire time exposed as fuck on the beach, I finally found one and it had some cloth scraps and duct tape or something. Never doing that again
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>>565279187
yea glad I'm almost done with this boat shit
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>>565279012
whered you find the blue boats? ive now found 6 pink boats but only 3 blue boats.
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>>565280418
beach thing
or laying around in the open, mostly in that hotel on the new map, but I've seen in a few in the regular maps

for some reason the green ones were somehow harder for me to find
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>>565280094
works on my machine
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>>565280094
Just run around and activate the thing until you get a ping. Rotate till you find the general direction where the ping gets faster then walk towards it.

You don't need to use the detector at all times
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Here's an interesting mechanic to add: clans.
Make it so that clansmen can't damage each other in game.
Make creating a clan really expensive, like 10 million credits.
Thoughts?
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>>565281810
This is so awful that it will actually get implemented
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>>565281810
I'll make the 4chan PvE clan
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>>565282003
>you can meet your fellow /vg/ clansmen in the new hub and choose to team up or trade
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>>565217138
Use "cuckold" incorrectly some more, that'll convince us you aren't retarded and bad at video games.
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damn was about to flip out after finding my 7th pink boat without finding the blue boats first, but then i look over and see 2 blue boats right next to each other on the tables outside the hotel.
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>>565283087
Only on this board would someone try to insult me by telling me I don't know the proper usage of the word "cuckold"

I kneel, Mr. Cuckold expert
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>>565283853
I need 2 more pink boats. is the best spot the beach?
also nice
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>>565284651
>I need 2 more pink boats
I actually got all my pink boats from random containers around the map and even other maps. But the other anon is right, best spot seems to be hotel, both inside and outside. But look through every container.
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>I lob a wolfpack grenade in one direction (straight ahead of me) towards a Shredder because I want to kill the Shredder
>wolfpack explodes and kills the Shredder
>for some reason, the remaining parts of the wolfpack zoom the complete opposite direction that I threw, fly behind me, and aggro a Rockateer 5000 meters away across the map which consequently kills me

That's awesome game design! I threw the grenade straight ahead and it killed what I wanted it to kill, so I did it right, but it also then went in the complete opposite direction that I DIDN'T want it to go, so it could aggro some random ARC and kill me. That's seriously some really good game design.
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>>565284869
>use a nuke to kill a fly
>there are unintended consequences to using a nuke against a fly
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>>565284869
>HOMING cluster grenade
>"why does it automatically target enemies in range?"
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>>565284869
yea, you have to really know all your grenades are going to hit stuff you want

its 12 individual seeker grenades, welcome to wolfpacks
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>>565285027
>>565285028
Yeah it went the total opposite direction and aggro'd a random ARC that was nowhere near me, that's what I'm saying. That's awesome game design, really well thought out
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>>565285141
>he thinks the targeting area is a cone
stop being a braindead faggot for a split second please
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>>565284869
>wolfpack for a shredder
pvpfags...
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>>565285275
retard
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>>565285141
>i use a tool badly like a retard
>it backfires despite it being clear what it does on first use
Nah.
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>>565285275
>wolfpack for a shredder

I picked it up looting and wanted to throw it at something

>>565285226
Yeah that's awesome that the area the cluster will automatically target is a huge wide range which includes the complete opposite direction of where you threw it, across the map and above you. Makes total sense now that I think about it.
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>>565285484
>hellbent on the targeting area being a cone
You would whine about
>WHY DIDNT IT TARGET ANYTHING ITS SUPPOSED TO BE HOMING
if it worked that way
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its a 360 target obviously, dumbass
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>>565284869
>I lob a wolfpack grenade in one direction (straight ahead of me) towards a Shredder
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Fuck what everyone says, the new map is awesome. Mushrooms and roots out the ass. Next wipe is going to be easy to level up scrappy.
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>>565285859
I heard they are adding more levels to scrappy in some future update
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>>565284306
Only on this board would someone overuse a word thinking it adds any sort of validity to their argument instead of coming off as insecure projection, then try and act like getting it pointed out is a point in their favor. Seems deflection is your only strength, poor thing.
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>>565286171
When the Cuckold Expert weighs in on "insecurity projection" I sit my ass down and listen
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>>565284869
>>565285141
>>565285484

>Throws something without knowing what it does
>Claims that it should do the thing he expects it do despite not knowing what it does in the first place
>Inbred tier damage control when called out

Is this modern bait? Are people actually this inept?
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>>565285859
>Fuck what everyone says

Agreed. When 100,000+ players have spoken by permanently quitting the game since just a few months ago, and the recent reviews on Steam reflect that almost everyone (with the exception of the retarded autists on this board) hates the new map and the new update, it's good to just say "fuck them" and continue making the game much fucking worse. That's called "good game design"
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>>565286626
Why are you autists so upset? I'm agreeing with you! It's good game design that it aggros ARC 50000 meters away, across the map and behind you. That's awesome
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>>565287157

>does retarded thing
>gets called retarded
>"lol ur all mad n' autistic"

Oh you ARE just that stupid. Yikes.
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>>565287432
>Yikes.

Am I speaking with the Cuckold Expert again? I kneel.
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Do cantina legends get demoted to daredevil or hotshot?
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>>565287157
>tfw the seeker grenade seeks out targets
Shit game design, they should make homing nades stationary like mines and make impact grenades do damage over time not on impact.
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I go to breach a box and my raider opens it up.
That's awesome. Good game design.
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>I don't want to learn what things do
>I want to expect what things do and if it doesn't it's bad design
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Stupid update has me using a fucking burletta for my bullshit runs now
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>>565287963
I'm thinking the wolfpack clusters just shouldn't shoot across the map directly behind you when you throw it like really far straight forward one way

for reference I was on the crane in the new map and threw the wolfpack all the way to the building in front of me. The rockateer that got aggro'd was waaay behind me, like hovering over the beach area. I think it was probably a bug, there's no way it was intentionally designed that way lol
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>>565288971
>I'm thinking the wolfpack clusters just shouldn't shoot across the map directly behind you when you throw it like really far straight forward one way
They should, they should. Seekers are designed to just be thrown straight in the air and then b-line for the closest target to kill. You should be embarrassed, not just because you made a retarded mistake, but because you STILL KEEP POSTING doing damage control. Shut up already.
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>>565286743
>When 100,000+ players have spoken by permanently quitting the game since just a few months ago,
Those quit not because of the new map though.
and the recent reviews on Steam reflect that almost everyone (with the exception of the retarded autists on this board) hates the new map and the new update,
The same people that cried about the hullcracker, wolfpack and deadmines getting nerfed? The same people that complain about getting ratted one time out of every 100 matches? Yeah those "people" can say whatever retarded thing they want.
>But its not popular like it was on launch
And? I'm still playing and the game can shut down tomorrow and I had my fun.
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>>565286743
>faggots leave over the mildest amount of friction
they would have left anyways
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>>565289378

That would require self reflection and humility. It's easier to call everyone else retards and pretend they're not upset.
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Close Scrutiny up on buried city if anyone still needs cash
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Hot take but the new Arc is easily one of the best Arcs to fight alongside the leaper. It's attacks are deadly and can kill you easily BUT they are clearly choreographed and can be dodged with the right timing that is a little difficult but not ball crushingly hard. Think of something like the Vaporizer or Rocketeer. Their attacks are very very hard to dodge, so for 99% of people they have two options, they hide in a building and take potshots or they use a Wolfpack or Deadmine to one shot it. Either option is not fun at all.

Compare that to the new Arc, much like the Leaper, you don't feel so compelled to hide in a house because it's attacks are very much dodgeable not like the other flying Arc. So you can actually engage with the boss fight in a fun way by timing the dodges, managing your stamina and stam shots, inbetween its lightning attacks. Like the Leaper, well-timed dodges doable and not so brutal like trying to dodge a Rocketeers 3 burst attack. Plus it flying away also makes it harder to sit in a building anyways. And you can't simply side-step the fight by one-shotting it, and if you want to use the Jupiter to kill it a mile with no risk, thats also an option but its more fun to fight it up close like with a Leaper.
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Jesus man farming damage has been a struggle. I'm poor as shit because i basically didn't play this wipe so i don't have easy acess to deadlines, wolfpacks or lures. So i'm basically just running around with a renegade 1 that i can barely repair shooting shit
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>>565291271
use an anvil, renegade is so expensive to repair
also grab a hullcracker and start blasting

close scrutiny is up now if you need money or materials to make ammo
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>>565291378
I should probably farm to make hullcracker ammo. i'm extremely poor, i have like 20k credits now at the end of the day. Lost a hullcracker and a bunch of ammo earlier today to getting shot in the back.
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>>565291626
>i'm extremely poor, i have like 20k credits now
how
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>>565291678
I literally didn't play at all for this wipe. I saw that we're getting another wipe and figured that wiping again will give me more stash slots and i will start again from zero anyway so might as well do it. But actually finishing the expedition project bankrupted me.
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>>565291626
that sucks about getting shot in the back
but yea, close scrutiny and go to the assessors with everyone usually everyone will leave the green arc metal which is crafts into motion cores, or you might be able to kill a surveyor by yourself or loot it, which fills your inventory with both
for the crude explosive, its just whatever personal way you farm chemicals
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>the new map is bad!
>I get killed by arc!
get good
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>>565291862
that actually turned out to be smarter than hording since the final step was damage instead of coins

I guess I'm the dumbass sitting at 5 million with nothing to spend it on, thinking I'd need 3 mil for skill points
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>>565292136
you can just buy shit from the shop instead of crafting it for awhile
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>>565292223
I have been. It's still been a net waste.
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>>565292339

The shop prices are a trap, they're basically only there so heavy PvP players aren't locked out of basic resources after some bad matches.
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>>565292495
Without it going towards the expedition it doesn't matter
I buy all my ammo and meds and line still goes up
Most people are just retarded when it comes to looting
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>>565289378
>but because you STILL KEEP POSTING doing damage control. Shut up already

Yeah, no, I don't think I will. I'm personally of the opinion that the game going from ~450,000 to ~70,000 gives me every right to critique it. Clearly Embark has no clue what they're doing or what players want. Obviously all the sycophantic dipshits in this thread don't know what makes a game good either, because they keep parroting "This is GOOD, actually! If YOU don't like it, YOU'RE the problem!" while the game just dies and dies and dies. See: >>565278325 for reference.

So yeah, I'll keep critiquing the game, because it's a safe bet that almost everything devs do to the game is retarded, since the game has lost over 60% of its playerbase in like 5 months lmao.

Also, if you are upset by my post or think I'm wrong, do NOT check the recent reviews of this game on Steam!
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>>565293548
>appeal to majority
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>>565292495
the shop prices don't matter when you have millions and nothing to spend it on
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>>565293727
>a game that once had a lot of players (quite recently) and now has a lot less players is actually GOOD and the devs are doing something right

Care to explain your logic?
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>>565286743
You're absolute desperate.
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>>565294137
>making a MVP for the retarded masses is based
I care about the game, you care about how to please faggots who can't think for themselves and leave immediately if the slightest thing goes wrong for them.

Go play a gacha
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>>565294058

Does the person who has 20k to their name have millions to sit on?
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>stella montis
>be first to seed vault
>barricade myself in
>place 3 explosive mines to cover my ass
>first reasonable guy walks by
>opens big door
>sees barricades
>hears mines
>closes door, leaves
>second retard comes by
>opens door
>takes down barricade
>explodes on mines
>starts whining about rats
>2 freefag niggers come to "save" him
>have to kill them
>shred with a torrente i found inside
can they be even more retarded than this
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I feel like I should learn to do the Harveter event after the expedition. I've been seeing a fuckton of people with Jupiters in my Chungarthan lobbies while the best I got is Hullcracker. I mean HC is fine, but only against land ARC. I feel like Riven Tides especially is 90% flying ARC and it's just not very fun hitting them with Anvil for the 900000th time.
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>>565303275
hc works fine against flying arc if you can aim
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>>565278325
So, what happened to extraction shooters? People got borded?
Same shit with marathon but with numbers bungie deserves, kek
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>Wake up today
>Suddenly in PvP lobbies even though I didn't shoot anyone in days
You know you're in the wrong lobby when you can hear Stitchers.
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>>565303275
You can always get lucky and get it from a Queen/Matriarch's core
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>>565305490
If I see too many flares going up as soon as I start I extract asap.
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The new map is kinda boring, and also weirdly partitioned.
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>>565306183
I've been hearing shots and flares go out in every match today so far. No idea what happened. It tends to reset your ABMM after new updates come out, but I didn't have any issues on Tuesday or yesterday. The thing is, I'd enjoy doing PvP if I could shoot back at people without being banished to the shadow realm for 10 raids. The game just sucks major ass when everyone shoots on sight.
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oh boy what are they hotfixing!?
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Huh. Looks like there was an update today. No wonder my ABMM was fucked up. No patch notes though.
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Nvm I found this (not my screenhshot).
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>>565303275
jupiter is so fun
>>565305825
the harvester puzzle is way easier, but you will need to loot the legs for a core to craft it
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>>565311384
>>565311508
oh yea makes sense
ill have to watch my back
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just 1 more pink ship
and all I have to do is spam containers on my alt
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>>565277794
I was fine with the amount of arc until I realized how little cover some parts of the map have. You have the customs house, the hotel, and maybe 5 buildings here and there and a couple of places in the other actual areas but the entire riverbed, the entire beach, the courts etc, theres no cover. Blue gate is the most wide open map but the rock formations work for cover.
Its still possible to deal with via seeker nades.
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The new map is so ass.
And they continue to double down on "if we increase the number of enemies and make them ever harder to fight that will make the game more fun", but instead it's just fucking tedious and not fun at all especially since you have to use a shit ton of resources to fight them.
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>>565326708
>i must be able to nuke everything alive in microseconds so it cant ever be a problem to me
stealth? avoidance? cover?
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>>565327631
And what do you think I'm currently doing?
Imagine defending this retarded balancing.
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>>565328139
>And what do you think I'm currently doing?
You're doing great then! Why the complaining?

>Imagine defending this retarded balancing.
You have tools of mass destruction available to you if you wish to use them, don't tell me you're an anvil poorfag.
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>>565328139
Some faggot has been spread eagle and spiteful for these swedes since the update dropped.
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>>565326708
are you people playing with an osprey 1? how are you having a hard time? fucks sake. brttina goes hard on this map. bring equipment. go inside a building. arc is so easy to avoid even in large numbers.
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>>565293548
The game is in the best state it's ever been in. If it makes fags like you cry, I don't care, I love it! Go play a game that doesn't have 100k players to lose (like marathon.)
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>>565131396
>>565131779
https://youtu.be/MdsPRO5vnU4?si=tQY2y-h1DAKNSeVa
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>>565291271
>wolfpacks
https://youtu.be/xQ2ktrXQMtk?si=NrNI7hRr8Z9i2Q37
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>>565292894
kek
>>565292495
Idk I use the shop a lot for ammo. Idc if I'm losing money. I'm not farming this shit all day.



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