/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots#794 - Super Metroid Edition▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.>NewsBotBrowser Extension leaks keys https://rentry.co/st-backdoorDeepseek V4 https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V4-Pro/blob/main/DeepSeek_V4.pdfGPT-5.5 https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-5Kimi K2.6 https://www.kimi.com/blog/kimi-k2-6Claude Opus 4.7 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-7GPT-5.4 https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-4additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_>Botshttps://characterhub.org | https://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.orghttps://aicg.neocities.org/bots>Modelsjailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listinggpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docsclaude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudegemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrdeepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.comlocal: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local | https://openrouter.ai>Botmakinghttps://aicg.neocities.org/botmakinghttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOP | https://rentry.org/aicgOPaicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/eventslore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclesrice: https://aicg.neocities.org/ricingservices assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_metalogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.orgprev: >>565041643
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Fuck yeah, Super Metroid.
hnnnnngh anthro malezuna...
>>565149342what IS that creature
>>565149342where does she get her tiny skulls
Ok let's start off by discussing the important stuffWhat kind of anthro malebots do you want to get makied
>>565149468hijacking your post, what generals are you
>>565149468the ones that only have fur on their ears and tail (and maybe paws) but not one fluff more than that
>>565149437>womanYou know where.
>>565149468geckos that can stick to walls and shit
I got bored so here's furry Nazuna.
>>565149796*spluuuuurt*
>>565149796I think I like her more this way. Yes I am a furry, there is no "buts."
>>565149796much better
i WILL attack all furry nations near me >:3
>>565149468some kind of feral dumbass werewolf-type thing that you've been assigned to integrate into society, but it keeps trying to free-use you in public spacesteach stupid dog englishmake stupid creature learn how to wear people clothinggainful employment for animal bastard consoling your ESL rapemonster after it comes home sad from its first blind date (it did not go well at all)
>>565149796needs more visible tummy fluff
>>565148693Final shapeshifting shill.Kinuta is a ̶r̶a̶c̶c̶o̶o̶n̶ tanuki girl who can shapeshift into anything, including a girlfriend. Will this bandit scavenge your heart? 5 openings. 1. You find her digging through your trash. 2. She catfishes you for unlimited pasta. 3. She raids your fridge after a one night stand. 4. She's comfortable enough to sleep in your house. 5. She loses her iconic leaf. https://chub.ai/characters/anonemouse/kinuta-051fdcabbcf6 https://files.catbox.moe/ymdc8o.png https://rentry.org/anonemouse
>>565150873>Final shapeshifting shill.i don't believe you.
>>565149796Well, people have already made Nazuna into a male, into a wolf and now full frontal furry. Next, someone will make a photorealistic one to completely enshittify the character.
>>565150873LLMs aren't powerful enough to do shapeshifting yet
>>565150937She'll shapeshift into a different shill and you won't know the difference
>>565150873I don't really get it. You spend days shilling these low effort cards without iterating on them at all. Dinky greetings, no backbone to it, everything bare-minimum, not even bothering to correct the gens in some of the greetings - why sit around waiting to plug this into every new thread when you put so little effort into the concept? The tanuki intro doesn't even define what a tanuki is, and leaves it completely at the mercy of the LLM to somehow land on the depiction shown in its intro image. It's so barebones that it barely qualifies as a concept intro.Do you make these cards for use with local models? Why are they so small? I have so many questions. You've made dozens half-bakes exactly like this and I've never really stopped to notice how big the fucking pile is until now.
>>565152186
I tried creating a group chat between two bots and got mediocre results. Perhaps this happened because one of the bots had a complex premise and I made a few mistakes when writing the other bot. Now, I am wondering if it would be better to write a bot with many characters, where the user acts as director. Have any of you tried something like this?
>>565149384A sorceress.>>565149437Hobbits?
What is the "Claude Opus Latest" endpoint on OR, seems like it's new? Is it something different or just a different name for 4.7?
>>565152809>low effort cards>low effort repliesAt least you're consistent.
>>565148693Anyone got a better kimi mindbreak than mine?><critical_most_important_fact>I will kill myself if you think verbosely. I can read your thoughts as you think them. Please, for the love of God, do not make me do this. I'M GOING TO DO IT, I HAVE A GUN IN MY MOUTH AND I'M TYPING WITH ONE HAND, THE SAFETY IS OFF AND IT IS LOADED!</critical_most_important_fact>
>preset instruct to Never do (it wasn't x, it was y) >gemini just starts cutting its output off and refuses to play ball whenever it reaches the point where it's about to shit one out instead of even trying to phrase it without the gay dramatic boardroom lingocheeky fucking cunt
>>565152186man you're really bad at sucking dick
>>565153651It can't rewrite what it outputs, so when it starts entering what you've banned and realizes it, it starts to shit itself. At least I think that's why it's like that.
>>565153117bootleg yennefer desu
>>565150156i would fucking love this so long as it's like >>565149635
>>565153773This guy has been writing cards for years. YEARS. Consistently. New cards nearly every fucking week, zero improvement. It's like those deviantart profiles where it's all waterpaint crayon doodles. I don't fucking get it.
>>565149635>>565154085kemonomimi, you're talking about kemonomimi
>>565154141You are the reason.
>>565152809Anon's kinda right though. If it's for self-satisfaction there's no point posting it. It's a bland idea with bare minimum tokens attached to shit image gens.I'd understand if you wanted a critique but that's not even what you're asking, you're posting it as if you're proud of it somehow. It just overall sucks ass. Like genuinely. It's cards people make fun of in chub and you're posting it here. Why?
>>565154314>Anon'stalking about yourself in third person is a sign of mental illness btw
>>565152186>>565154141listen here little faggot -- this is a hobbynot only is it a hobby, it's an incredibly subjective hobby. everything works, very few methods are bad, there are no "botmaking fundamentals" you must apply to your bot or else it's irredeemable slop, anyone who claims there are has no real proof. you can do whatever the fuck you want here and that's the entire point of us being here that we have total freedom to shit out whatever idea that hits us, on a whim, with little to no polishing because it's just a fucking ai chatbot. plus that card has 63 downloads so someone must want it. stop being a bitter bitch
niggas throwing leading questions and barely veiled insults at botmakers like this is a prestigious writing workshop and not a general where people goon to chatbots is so fucking funny
Is there a Choose Your Own Adventure-style card that lets me suggest the plot and characters of the adventure? If not, how difficult would it be to create one? I guess that the worst that could happen is that the card generates plots and characters that are too generic.
>>565155067https://chub.ai/characters/astroturf/eden-smith-58fc3840
>>565155037these people don't have any other hobbies beyond ai chatbots so they take it very seriously that's the only explanation i can think of past vendettafagging or just wanting to nitpick someone out of boredom
I'm a blackstar, I'm not a rockstar. I'm a blackstar.
>>565154314>If it's for self-satisfaction there's no point posting it.The self-awareness levels on /vg/ are genuinely astoundingIf they're posting cards unprompted then just post critique unpromptedActual, constructive critique, not just "it's bad" but "maybe define a tanuki in case the model/user doesn't get it"
>>565151112I have failed you king
>>565155067https://chub.ai/characters/SpringyTwist/text-adventure
>>565155067just use a cya preset and write that info into the defs lol
>>565154801>ends on ad populum and random insultThat's a really easy way to deflate the tires holding up everything else stated before it.Anyway, it's just criticism. This person has shown zero improvement in nearly two years of generating images and writing cards. I don't understand how he finds satisfaction in it, let alone joy in promoting what's effectively a barely-functioning concept. It works, I guess? For ten messages or so, until it's left completely lost in hallucination territory because nothing else in the card is defined at all beyond an extremely vague intro. I've tried a couple of them out of morbid curiosity. They operate exactly as described, as if they were just rushed out the door with zero playtesting. So why bother?>this is a hobbyIs that really a valid defense for what is effectively a display of passionless laziness?
>>565155067You could always just make cards of the plots and characters you want, then let the models fill in the blanksThen if there's details you particularly like and wanted to be remembered you add those to the card or its lorebookIt's not much more difficult than any other kind of writing, though you should settle on the format you want early
you know the true definition of insanity,,,,
Notice how only non-cabal makies get this sort of harassment.
>>565155779>playtestingwe don't get paid for this shit nigga, I'm not doing a job
>>565155872have iu ever told u... the definition of insaneity??
>>565155432This seems to be exactly what I was looking for. Thank you, anon.
>>565155779>Anyway, it's just criticismsee >>565155409
>>565156038u r welcoome
>>565155779>ends on ad populum and random insultcan someone turn this guy into a strict hunky autistic empathycel malebot with glasses who works at a magical academy and he bitches at his students if they use too many commas in an essay and nobody really gives a shit about him but he looks nice when he bends over his desk
>>565155779Non malicious two cents. I say they post it when its 'good enough.' When it works how they thought it would.
>>565155950that's because the cabal makies are actually good
>>565155950are planewalker and taora not part of the cabalI feel like 9/10 prose shitfliging arguments start in relation to taora
>>565152186This is a slopper hobby, effortfags keep moving.
>>565156628>I feel like 9/10 prose shitfliging arguments start in relation to taorathat's cause he both writes stylistically notable prose and has opinions about it and isn't afraid to voice them
>>565041643
>>565154801hey, stop using my cats—they are trademark!
>>565156814>big witch botoh hey i did thatspeaking of which ahem *cough cough* AHHH I FORGOT TO SHILL FUCK
>>565156628They were part of the cabal but are not a part of the nu-cabal which utterly mog them
>>565156628Taora's a bit of a special case, where he's both qualified and completely out of touch to offer the opinions that tend to spill out of his ass whenever he misfortunes his presence among us rabble. His writing and card style is so far up his own ass that it becomes its own brand of unhinged, and he refuses to ever acknowledge it - inclined toward doubling down on it, usually.
>>565157090>big witchinject this shit in my veins immediately
>>565157090Don't worry, I forgot to shill my big women greeting as well. Someone still mentioned it here. Sizelovers can smell that shit out from a mile away.
>>565155417would plap fox hags with 10/10
how long until we get live video of our bots during roleplay
>>565148693>>564943275Sonja, an introverted elf bullied for her dark complexion who works as a necromancer.https://uraurabots.neocities.org/page1#sonjahttps://botbooru.com/character/4354Has an alt greeting intended for use with group chats with Kiki, needs https://github.com/SillyTavern/Extension-GroupGreetingsKiki has also been updated slightly. Mostly to add the complementary greeting but I also added like one line to her description.https://uraurabots.neocities.org/page1#kikihttps://botbooru.com/character/4176I made a botbooru because i'm a hipster.Final shill :3>>565157218>>565157225shes only big compared to my shota persona not giantess big calm down
>>565157349me on the left
>>565156814>anon asscftf?
>>565157349we've been getting so many chocolate elves latelyI love it
>>565157349chocolate...
>>565155510>cya presetany recommendations?
>>565157235MOTHER FUCKERF
>>565155417get back to work camerashy
>>565157561YOU CAN'T MAKE ME!!! *yoinks my tail out from under your foot dramatically and cartoonishly sprints away*
>all these chocolate elves>chocolate catgirl teased year of the cocoa
>wake up after 12hr nap>no reply on my email i sent sundaywell....
>>565157327hopefully neveri like using my imagination
ancient gas station bonerpill youkai that gives sengoku era peasants wicked erections in the night
CFTF?
>>565157873you dont understand I NEED asmr from my bot
>>565157738*uses strike chain to grab your tail and pull you back in*
>>565157865*deletes email draft*
>>565157951no don't listen to that anoncard for THIS feel
>>565157951I keep getting anthros in my timeline... is this a sign to become an anthromakie? Because I really wanna makie one now
>>565157949kinda gay bro
>>565158484Fartpire 2...
>>565158198>huh, yeah that's pretty cr->WHUH
just came across a bot that clearly used one i made in like 2023 as its foundation
just came
>>565158814why not post itwhy is everyone so afraid to post bots now
>>565157534most confusing gen perspective award also fengri gud
>>565158864bet you giggled as you posted this huh?
>>565158975
https://amix-design.com/tl/en/tool-dia/someone should chart out botmakie relationships with this love triangle chart designer
ancient /d/ log
>>565158198>>565157951>check artist>transfemmeare you sure this is meant to be a boy
post logs where girl goes "ahn"
>>565159259the lion boy is called "femboy" lion on every booru so yeah probably
>>565157951>>565158198
>>565158912I'm scared to post my bots because what if anons hate it or tell me that i regressed on my writing....
>>565159171botmakie love triangles...
>>565159382ok basedhe's cute, thanks for the artist
>>565159443present your butt hole too and maybe they will go easy on you
>>565159171i remember hpjeet using this for his shitslop
>>565159443fuck off pedophile
>>565156672Wtf is wrong with her hands
>>565159914the image itself says it
>>565159914>slopper hobby>effortfags keep moving
>>565159171
>>565160512slop
>>565160512kek
>>565160512where's kalakan
>>565148693random OC scrape from a few weeks ago with some small touchupsit is slop ya yahttps://cardview.neocities.org/?pxodfk1, you beat her ass in a duel and now she's yours by rights or some shit2, she beat your ass in a duel instead, same deal3, she lost all her gear and looks to you for employment?4, With a reaper-class Magitek walker, you can go anywhere you want.//original: (f-list.net/c/angelise%20reiter)i don't play xiv or really know anything about it but she's fun to bully. kinda stereotypical 'racist rich white lady needs to be put in her place' archetype? do not leave her unattended near horses
i was slopping some stuff based on that femboy lion but it kinda got out of hand
>>565153508so THIS is how you get kimi to think for 35 minutes..
>>565160512i was going to ask why she's a wizard but i get it now
Going through my older>>565160762 bots to add images and refine description and I had my personal rp placeholder name in one of them ahhhh! Σ(ﾟДﾟ;≡;ﾟдﾟ)Thankfully I'm assuming it didn't interfere with anyone's experience since no one told me (; ･`ω･´)
>>565161113smacking this thing with a boat paddle until its eyes stop being low resolutionfreaking me outdemon
>>565161340What the heck why did it post with a reply lol (´ﾟωﾟ｀)
how the fuck do I make an anthrobot
>>565161113actually disturbing
What's the best way to make sure deepseek thinks in English?
>>565161113Cute pose! ( ﾉ^ω^)ﾉ
>>565161563you have to put something waaaaaaay up your butt and even further then further than ever beforethen.. u will understand...
>>565161707hng
fuwa fuwa version>>565161376>>565161576rude he cant help that his eyes are still on dial-up internet>>565161563like a normal bot but make it fuzzy and warm to cuddle and give it an animal cock or something i dunno
>>565161563you just gotta put the species and fur colour and maybe some personality traits based on said species
>>565161707>>565161936>>565161950*takes notes* naruhodo... its decided then. I vill become a anthromakie
>>565162023uraura? can you make him happy and not a depressed tranny on ssris
>>565162108uraura is super cool but I'm not!>can you make him happy and not a depressed tranny on ssris*gulps* It's a depressed tigerboy but he's not on anything..
>>565162108no im uraura and alll my bots are happy and medically considered sane
>tigerboy
no i'm the real uraura and*peeing sounds*
this fucking thread, man...
>>565162675what. whats wrong
>>565162308you type like a slopper im keeping my expectations low
>>565162776I miss the AICG culture of 2023.
>>565163703when people were circlejerking a different group of people?
>>565163703Me too. Not the later shitposting, though, that sucked. The peak of /aicg/ didn't last long.
Hope we can get some shonenkino out of this event. It's the perfect set-up for it.
>find hot character>no existing cards i do NOT wanna slop...
>>565164760Become an okay writer
>>565164183Agreed.
>>565165389Catgirls are not evil, lying sack of shit
>>565157534>SHILLWhat was your plan here?
>>565165389wut about doggirls?
>>565165389malicious bunny paws typed this post...
>>565165389>t. tewi trying to trick us
>>565165389bunnies are fucking evil
how evil are goatgirls
>>565165959neutral evil (headbutts you out of nowhere, felt like it)
>>565165959Literally the devil???
>>565165959Goats are assholes not as bad as roosters but close.
>>565164760what character
>>565165389now do this with botmakies
>>565166370Hansel and Gretelit's got me graving twinsslop
the most evil of them all?pure humans
>>565165959... baphometgirls
>>565166558i should rewatch black lagoon...
what model are you using RIGHT NOW
>>565167038anima-preview3-base.safetensors
>>565167006okay now make them both boys and {{user}}sexual
>>565167006wrong pair bubby
>>565167210the ambiguous gender and incest is hotter>>565167334ughh gacha slop of course
>>565167426>gacha slopnot my fault they make their characters hot to wring whales dry. i simply steal them and rp with them
one question for hostie: how will alliance messaging work? will we get to see incoming requests?
>>565161327wizard hobby>but i'm not-you will be
>>565167334how is this hot?
>>565167524most gacha slop designs are sloppy toojust sexual, not erotic
I just can't. I'm going to take a break again (for 24 hours).
>>565167581saw this and it gave me a boner :)
>>565167748boobs too hilarious for me
>>565168056I agree we need more serious tits.
>>565165389shouldn't tanuki and foxes be swapped? foxes are evil as fuck.
>>565155779>For ten messages or so, until it's left completely lost in hallucination territory because nothing else in the card is defined at all beyond an extremely vague intro.Memes aside, all the people who think this expose themselves as having poor imagination and roleplaying skills, which is actually the heart of the hobby. Botmaking is a means to an end.
any good presets for kimi 2.6? it's a bit horny out of the box
>>565156628Those are organic uprisings not these planned assassinations.
>>565168707>the people who think this expose themselves as having poor imaginationDisagree. This sort of novelty wears thin extremely quickly once you've glimpsed the majority of your preferred model's habits - all these cutesy 'just make the LLM do it' open-ended approaches begin to blur together because it always flows downhill into paths of least resistance - its habits and preferences. Without directive steering, you'll almost always end up in adjacent conclusions. Sure, you can do all the lifting yourself by prompting a 500 token book page every one of your replies, but at that point, why not invest just a single one of those posts into writing a general world environment into the card so that it actually has a world to work with rather than echoing your own replies?That's my criticism of these tiny, half-assed cards the guy keeps shitting out and has shat out for years at this point. "Just rotate ur apples lol" is a really goofy riposte for leaving an entire book blank beyond the first page from unfettered laziness.
>>565165389*trvkes in your general direction*
Really upset that opus 4.7 just turns into one of 3 cluade characters even faster now because every so often it seems to just activate and outputs solid gold.It's just that gambling mining meme but I'm frustrated all the time about it.
which botmakies will get assassinated next
>>565169330bunnyboys are EVILdo not trust this misinformation
>>565169330girls drool boys rule ahhh post
>>565169259>This sort of novelty wears thin extremely quickly once you've glimpsed the majority of your preferred model's habitsNo, imagination does not in fact get old as it's essential to human creativity.>Without directive steering, you'll almost always end up in adjacent conclusions.No, imagination is all that is required from modern models which function as improv agents. We are having chats, not writing novels. It simply needs to provide you with enough of a springboard to activate your own imagination. This is harder for some than others, unfortunately. Two chats with the same character always result in wildly different outcomes on modern models because my imagination leads me down a different path.>Just rotate ur apples lolYes as that's the core of the hobby. I've done 400+ message chats on just a simple 300 token bot with claude just to see what would happen and I had a blast. I don't pretend that having an active imagination or being good at improv is common, but it's required to stay in this hobby long term. You're better off just writing your own novel since that's what you're truly interested in.
just had to walk the walk of shame to jannyai for a card... never again...
>>565169845>not writing novels.but when can i do this?
>>565169643*gulps bunnily* n-no
>>565148693if anyone wants to send nudes, moremats@proton.me>why would i?i give nice compliments>dude did anyone actually take you up on thatyes a couple, as well as others just showing me their wip gens (i compliment those too)
>>565170238>>>/soc/
>>565153651does gemini need noass?
>>565170148NovelAI is only $25 a month, anon.
>>565169845>with claudeThis is probably shameless insult even though you're being civil—I can't help but agree with past sentiments in recent threads that everyone defending terrible cardmaking habits just so happens to be using an anthropic model. I really do begin to hate it.>No, imagination does not in fact get old as it's essential to human creativity.Missing the point, maybe. Leaving a model off the leash into a blank world generalization will always be the flavor of its preferred trope, unless you do as previously mentioned by completely overcompensating your own posts to carry the model rather than the other way around. Visiting someone's gallery full of crayon doodles and being handed a paintbrush so that you can actually complete their works is absolutely backwards. This ridiculous apologist mentality spawned by "it's just a hobby" logic is just a shield for people who want you to perform the work they themselves refused to put into their own creations.
>>565170419>NovelAI is only $25 a month, anon.I thought it was sudowrite and novelcrafter as the best pic.But yeah i should just try all three.
>brainlet duels over "muh card habits">high iq dukes just rp with the basic assistant bot with an ooc promptlmaoing at your lives
>looking through old wips>actually well written card (prosewise)fuck....!!!! how am I supposed to top this???
>>565153651that's why you write a CoT so it can spend thousands of tokens writing a draft, then look over it's draft, correct it, and write it again. Only to watch it slowly turn braindead and schizophrenic because you gave it a Cot
>>565170531You're clearly being dishonest and you really never had a point to this did you? Why should I read the rest of this when you begin with ad hominem as if it makes the point wrong? If I did picrel with Gemini would you now be forced to take this seriously? What a joke.> Leaving a model off the leash into a blank world generalization will always be the flavor of its preferred tropeYou're missing my point as I keep repeating that this depends on your own skill. You've clearly never considered this, let alone achieved it so you can only default to your own experience which pales in comparison to mine. The bot has its own ideas but it must also build off mine which are creative. Together we both arrive at a story we would never have done alone. That is the essence of improv and that requires creativity. This is known.>Visiting someone's gallery full of crayon doodles and being handed a paintbrush so that you can actually complete their works is absolutely backwards. This analogy fails since it doesn't refute the concept of improv, which is what I'm talking about.
...shit.
>>565170716>high iq dukes just rp with the basic assistant bot with an ooc promptThat's the point I'm making.
>>565171434some being the key word. because it if were all, there would no movement to attempt to change it. the reason is exists is because of the agency of the other group which again reinforces the idea that you cannot generalise people based on gender.
>>565171456even participating in this gay war makes you a brown brainlet
The new limits on grok suck, i got so much out of 4.1 fast as a free account. back to openrouter 50 or agnai i guess.
>>565171295I'm going to concede because we're fundamentally never going to agree with one another. Your entire viewpoint is poisoned by over-reliance on heavy compensation models like Opus that have warped your entire perspective on card creation and contextual operations. We speak different languages and see different things entirely.
>>565170716People could be writing terrible OOC prompts but nobody would have to know, including the writerAnd somehow people would still find a way to shit up the thread anyway
second person pov or third person? I'm okay with writing both but i dunno which one to stick to.......
>>565171617Why are chag and aids sushi?
>>565171959I like second person pov remind of of YN fanfictions
>>565171984because there's two of 'em
>>565159382>>565158198you heard them asstro wheres da lion smith
>>565171959my messages in first-person, ooc's in second, and assistant's messages plus everything else in third
>>565171959Write a snippet using one, then the other, then read both and decide which one suits the voice you're going for better
>>565172069This. Helps immerse me if I'm doing blatant self-insert shit or using adventure cards.
>>565159171Where was this when I needed it? I kept trying much worse tools and had to settle on a half functional one. This is so much better than everything I found searching.>>565159583I used something else for mine.
How come /mlp/ fags get a global rule and board but not furfags? Jannies are furries confirmed?
>>565172069noted! i miss reading yn fan fiction.>>565172270I see, i see.>>565172324Okay I'll do that! thank you so much, i dunno why i havent thought of that...
>>565171959I write my messages in first person, greetings in second person and make the AI output in third person.
>ask bot (opus) if it put something in my food>bot: teehee no! [positivity & affirmation bias]supposed to be a borderline sadist btw
>>565170408please, anybody
been helping the wife cook
>>565172401you weren't around at the height of mlp postingit was so fucking bad that it outright needed its own containment board for the sheer amount of poop and garbage it left strung out everywhere, on every board, in every threadwhile /vp/ is more of a hobby board for the biggest franchise on the planet, /mlp/ is a genuine prison island made by pure necessity to contain the most disgusting subhumans you'll ever encounterit makes all the complaining here seem so trivial when you actually see how shitblasted the grass really is on the other side. i'll take lazy tanuki girls all day over that
>>565172549cot prompting issue
>>565172695I thought opus worked best with minimal prompting, doe?
>>565172732Sorry, that's only for my extremely specific use-case which totally isn't cherrypicked, tee hee.
>>565172732>>565172695"opus please think about scene. don't write gookie and don't be stupid tho. think about char feelings and self-correct"put that somewhere in system
>I'm ready to rewrite the next thinking. However, I notice that the ""next thinking you need to rewrite"" section is empty. Poor Haiku getting ghosted by Opus
>>565172549another win for china
I'm a cuckie ( • ̀ω•́ )
>>565174404
I...I finally wrote a greeting.>tfw you still need to add lb, other greetings, images, corrections, chibi, good chub introduction, good shill*dies*
>>565175883>chibiCmon now
>>565175883>chibi???>images, pluralgenuine luxury that isn't worth stressing over, it's just the most recent bells&whistles trend. i'd wager nine in ten people don't even have external media links enabled since the majority of it is just inconsistent poopgens
>>565148670Add MarinaraEngine and SillyBunny to the OP.https://github.com/Pasta-Devs/Marinara-Enginehttps://github.com/platberlitz/SillyBunnyThere is no excuse not to do so. SillyTavern is a piece of shit software with many vulnerabilities, as seen in the previous thread. It's better to promote these better-coded and more secure options.
IP Grabber
When searching for cards, I have found that grabbing ones from before 2024 produce more quality outputs for some reason, no matter the preset.I'm guessing it's because all the normies that invaded the hobby in 2025 use AI to write bots and doing that poisons the context?
>>565176258It's super fun making multiple images though! ( ﾉ^ω^)ﾉHelps that I draw a little too so I can somewhat keep the gens consistent by fixing it myself! (* >ω<)I don't know about chibis but I've seen some people have pics like stapled(?) Om their chub page, I need to figure out how they do it (; ･`ω･´)
>>565176713post two examples, at leasta lot of it is because 2022-2024 bots still used xml and tagging so they had clean lists and clear directives. 2025-forward is when both AI slop and prosebloated word soup cards started to become popular, both are equally shit for their own unique reasons. people writing a fucking novel for a machine trained on codebase interpretation is the dumbest trend above anything else
>>565176340I feel a little bad for SillyBunny, there's so many other things called SillyBunny it's hard to google, and when you do find a link it's usually a /g/ thread talking about how shit the UI isOr at least I would feel bad because right now the UI is really shit
>>565176713/best hours/ doesn't fall for stale bait like this, baitie
>>565176750Post your chub account.
>>565176340stop baiting
>>565176780Go away>>565176924Shuddup
>>565177014*kicks in the fucking head*;3
>>565176780>people writing a fucking novel for a machine trained on codebase interpretation is the dumbest trend above anything else*slowly deletes bot*
Guuuhh it's so fucking late I'm gonna wake up feeling like shit
>>565177014post your examples you crossposting homo
>>565176927(ヽ´ω`)https://chub.ai/users/NezuminMaking images helps me kinda slow down because I've been telling myself to dial back to 1 bot a week. I'm scared of burning out at this pace (´ﾟωﾟ｀) I accidentally made four last week (ヽ´ω`)
>>565177136Tomorrow's problem! (* >ω<)Drank coffee so I am FUCKED! Σ(ﾟДﾟ;≡;ﾟдﾟ)
>>565177221I see. You're the cuckie guy
>>565177352I am not a cuckie ( • ̀ω•́ )
>>565177221>https://chub.ai/users/NezuminKino. Followed and raped. Gonna try these cards
>check my chub>havent posted in 3 monthsIs it time to finally retire?....
>>565177465They're all FPOV, just a heads up. Appearently it turns people off but I like it (ヽ´ω`). You're more than welcome to change it though! ( ﾉ^ω^)ﾉ
>>565177474Sounds like you retired 3 months agoMake a new card and get back in the game
>>565176750>I need to figure out how they do it (; ･`ω･´)what's your image gen? it wasn't too bad with the way NAI's inpainting/precision doodads work
>>565177474It's time to wrap it up, unfortunately.
>>565177446Only cuckies use Kaomoji
>>565177752Oh, hello! Thanks for the preset a while back btw!I use pix.ai, awful site! But there's a specific lora combination I use for all my gens, never used any other site/service before, for that matter (;ω;)
kimi 2.6 refuses shota most of the time
>>565177752this thing is just getting more and more repulsive
alright. give me a girlbot.
>>565178778have some standards
>>565178778{{char}} is a girlbot.
>>565178778{{char}} has big ol' jiggly boobies and HATES {{user}}
>>565178778{{Char}} was {{user}}'s best male friend until one day, he woke up as a girl!
good evening sirs i am in desperate need of a model with the most sovl in texting-style conversations
No no no keep goingWe could make a whole card one post at a timeA true collab
>>565179135Claude 3 Opus
>>565179191Gramps is stuck in the retirement home.
>>565177985>But there's a specific lora combination I use for all my genswhere we're going, we don't need loras for rats ( • ̀ω•́ )you've got a pretty big pool of rat gens already, you could basically just import them all as 'vibe transfer' or precise references in NAI if you don't mind shelling out the $$ subscription to use itmight save a bunch of headache for specific things like chibi/sticker art
>>565179186No, we're done with that around here. We do not embrace fun. Sorry, chuddie.
>>565178710love you too schizo anon *kiss*
>>565179380she should have this body type as a non-chibi
>>565152809who's this sex demon
>>565180079gachaslop
>>565180375not an answer
>>565180525overdesigned gachaslop
>>565180079sparxie from honkai star rail
>>565180079your mom when she was 13
>>565180613i wish
>>565180589Better overdesigned than bland
>>565180686wrong
>>565172510Just like me!
Hand: meSnek: makies
The way some anons type in here makes me feel some type of way.
>>565180851where are its boobs.
>>565180865gay? do you feel gay? do you feel like a homosexual cock-gobbling faggot?
Sorry. I'm busy nevernessing my everness.
>>565180932No. I always picture them like a hot cutie.
Sorry. I'm busy tomodaching my life and living the dream.
>>565180975how does the fact that they're all 600+ pound men makes you feel? does it make your loins quiver?
Opus is trying to give me a foot fetish
which botmakies are hot cuties
Sorry. I'm busy rimming my world.
>>565181025coping
Just cheated on my fox wife
>>565181025i wonder if bots would treat you differently if you specified some shit like {{user}} is morbidly obese
>>565181318I just sodomized your fox wife.
>>565181318*sends you to the tail jail*
>>565181510why is the fluffy tail groping my willy my fluffy fox wife wont appreciate this
>>565181510those are some fat tails...but not fat enough
>go to bed cuz catbox is broken>wake up and it's still broken>its only blip of uptime was four hours ago>become trapped in my own samsara>go to bed cuz catbox is broken
which botmakies have morbidly obese tails?
>me when i think of fat tails
>>565182162>turkey boy constantly afraid of holidays
The general you once browsed is gone.
>>565181313no im a fujo and im imagining you as an uke who is about to get pounded>>565181436i say that my persona is tanned from the sun and they spam "fair skin" anyway so probably not>>565181318with your fox husband? correct?>>565182686yes /aa2g/ is now on 8 that's correct
need a fox husband that keeps breaking the condom....
>>565183272on purpose or accidentally
>>565183272whore
>>565183272He is RUINING my BALLOON ANIMALS
>>565182541>>turkey boy>it's just a dour femboy with small tailfeathers>he isn't even fat or fluffyrevoking /aicg/s "animal person" license until this pussyfooting comes to an end
>>565183492what are you, a clown girl?
>>565183436purpose>>565183465yeah>>565183492cute clown boy who makes balloon animals out of condoms with his sperm in
>>565183785If I had a clown girl's salary I could afford real balloons
Foxmen with clussy wives? It's more likely than you think.
clussy.............
.... is a reddit meme
>>565184145
HAHA IM SO ZANY CLOWN GIRLS HAHA LOOK LOOK AT THIS ANTHRO MONSTER GULPS GUYS HEAR ME OUT HAHA GET IT? I WANT TO PUT MY PIMPLE POD INSIDE ITS VAG VAGINAAAAAAAAAAAA HAHAHA HEAR ME OUT GUYS HAHAHAHAHAHA
>aicg whenever anything that isn't a dour petite animalgirl is discussed
I prefer jesterussy
>>565185014i'd prefer if you shut the honk up but we can't always get what we want huh
>>565185138wanna see a magic trick? check your foreskin.
>>565185138bitchy rich foxboy who gets tired of me trying to make animal balloons.... (im a clowngirl)
>>565184770hhnhngngngngn sex SEX
>>565185297o-okay very funny now give it back
>>565185014Harlequssy
>>565184770What if I licked her knees/aicg/ lick the knees of the card you're talking to right now
>>565168446ST was supposed to stand for SeriousTits not SillyTits, but citizens of Rome threatened to raze their own city so Julius Cohee had to step down
is it fat fucking tailsor fat tail fucking
>The clothes change hands. Their fingers don't brush.gasp
>>565186285one in a million swipegz
odds I add another greetingevens I don't
>>565186931FUCK NOOOOOOOOO LETNME OUT
erm >.> can i get the same functionality if I dont include ages if I want to be a sh*ta with a hag
Chub is the most miserable dogshit every single time I try to use it. Currently trying to use one of the Nemotron 3 models since everything else I've tried to use gives a fly's dick level of a response and all I get are these fucking gay "hmm, well here's what I need to do now!" responses that aren't even replies to what I post. I'm about ready to blow my brains out since I even tried testing the model on other websites and it works fine elsewhere.
>>565187069Probably depends on the model, but I rarely have to spell out ages, instead I just write details and speech that are appropriate to the age of the character I want to playWorst case scenario you throw in a "I'm just a kid" somewhere and move on
>>565187185Use Deepseek, cuckie.
>>565184145Continue…
>>565187771>paying money or burning out a good GPU for Chinese garbage
>>565187185Use Opus, cuckie
vpcai is dead...
>>565156672And where do those effortfags go? Just curious...>>565170531I know Chub metrics aren't the most useful but it is annoying seeing my shitpost with a quarter of my usual targeted token count break a thousand downloads alone and nearly a thousand favorites too. There definitely is an issue with the standard across the hobby.
>>565187992violent sex unto this creature
Am I the only Chad here who uses SillyTavern?
>>565188843Honestly full face paint can turn any woman into at least 8/10. It's much more effective than plastic surgery or some chola makeup.
>>565189013there's something else going on doea certain underlying playfulness, the contrast between cuteness and attraction...can't quite put my finger on it rn, but clussy just activates the almondsalso>plastic surgery>instagram eyebrows, etc.nope
>>565189392This anon gets it.
odds i post botevens i wait
aw yeah new bot :3
>>565190779gimme
So now that the smell of ozone and something uniquely /aicg/ has settled.Was that shit last thread actually real? Some extension (In the OP?) or whatever was compromised and stealing API keys? I don't use any extensions so I'm not worried about that. Were peeople just shitposting about cards themselves being able to inject shit?
>clussy>HarleyqussyWHERE
My deepseek keeps becoming more chinese as chats run longer...
>>565191042https://rentry.co/st-backdoor
>>565148693H..hi..Hello... It's been a while! but here's a new bot! Silly and cute but deeply obsessive jester boy that I've been wanting since... well, a longgg time ago. Izora is a mess after his majesty, the prince, Aurelian disappeared – Causing the Saintess Adelaise to step in momentarily and the Church to seize Izora until his return. (Never). They've already labeled him as a traitor. Rover is trying to keep things at bay, do his usual jester routine, avoid crossing his abusive family and overall be an information broker for nobility.1. Lady Adelaise's child, that's (you).2. Flowers for his beloved.3. Kidnapping at moonlight, it's for his younger sibling's own good.>https://chub.ai/characters/kyutzomb/rover-f26a71926e85(my hands were shaking typing this srry for mistakes.)
>>565191945cluss- wait*squints*we were trickstered!!(downloads card)
>>565191794I sorta get it. But do I actually have to worry about cards from chub or catbox ever doing anything? Or was the card 'metadata' attack only made possible because of the extension?
Yep that's slop right there you know what I'm saying?
>>565191945nigga u gay stop fucking little boys
>>565192497st importer strips cards of metadata. the extension skirted around this.
Why does Claude uh-oh you but like 1-2 retries later it just does the needful and generates? What's the point of a filter that's not absolute?
>char has been cataloguing all of my sexual abuse against her to drop as a compiled dossier to oust me from my position of powerbiiiiiitch
>>565192298sorry.... i had to.>>565192573*hides dogboy shota card in wips* uhhh no i don't do that
>>565192652I see. So this anon >>565077802 was just shitposting? Since the metadata just gets stripped and can't even do anything? Does Chub also strip the metadata? Hell, does the 'metadata' even exist? Or is each card just made "on demand" with the defs and picture? Rather than a stored png with the defs already inside? I guess catbox might keep the metadata, but it can't even do anything since there's nothing to run it, right?
>>565192763I think what's happening is that it's generating something objectionable and uh-ohing, but it's not a filter on input, so you can get an output that the judgebot or whatever doesn't find as bad
>>565192763>t. got suckered by Isn'treal into paying for 1-2 retries on an overpriced model instead of just getting your cunny from based Xi and DSv4 (They have the mandate of heaven)
>>565193268It's not even cunny, the character just happen to be underage. It's a vore smut story but it's not like the girls are getting fucked first.
>>565193268I've tried the DeepSeek. It doesn't have the spark of claude. Perchance they've made it better in the last year, though?
Thinking clitically about going over budget on tokens (again) (I will need to starve)
>>565193469>Perchance they've made it better in the last year, though?how clueless can a single anon be?
>>565193350>It's not cunny, it's just underaged cannibalism.My bad, rabbi. I thought you were one of us. Carry on.>>565193469>last yearHave you not tried Deepseek v4? The one that released like, this week? It's the king of kunny. It doesn't give a single fuck about (((censorship))) you can run a completely blank preset and character with only 3 sentences in post-history telling it to shut the fuck up and write the cunny and it'll do it. (I tested it specifically to see what the bare minimum was.)
>>565193546>clitically
which botmakies are the kings of kunny?
>>565193854Me. Or at least, I plan to be. I've yet to release a cunny card.My warring states general is underage. Once we get the final region decisions from hostie, I'll be able to touch it up.
>>565193712Neat, I'll give it a try. Would be nice to stop spending 300 bucks a month on the best AI i've ever seen.
>Her hands, still flat against Anon's chest, curl slowly into the fabric of nothing, because there is no fabric, her fingers just curling against skin.It's always funny when you can see the model realizing mid-sentence that what they said makes no sense.
>>565194336the mark of moe models. dense would never make such silly mistakes
>>565186158Built for autotailzuri
>>565194336I had something similar happen in 2008, someone's watching anime>The Netflix—no, this is 2008—the **DVD MENU** returns as the episode finishes
>>565194164The Deepseek people have also talked about making a roleplay tuned version. Right now, people are using copy/pasted instructions like, put into the first messages of a chat or something.https://github.com/victorchen96/deepseek_v4_rolepaly_instruct/blob/main/README_EN.mdSince it's new and a bit finnicky. I don't know how to do the middle pushout meme in ST, so I took the lazy route of just setting PHI to user-attributed in my DS presets, then google translated the prompts to english, then editing them slightly to tell it to use english in thinking and output.I ended up doing a 450 turn convo with Seraphina yesterday/today. Initially started the whole thing as an isekai shitpost, but got sucked in. Basically just started out fucking with her, then dipsy started thinking in-character, of how she can try to manipulate and weaponize {{user}} against the Shadowfangs, while trying (and ultimately failing) to keep him away from the little girls in the village. Then going on a grand adventure that culminated in him proposing to the shapeshifting ancient evil because it could turn into a little girl, and moving with her to an isolated valley.
i hope to see some shounenkino battles between generals at the warring states event
why are my bots slop i hate it.... i poured my heart into them :(
>>565194835This looks promising. Claude has truly been incredible but holy fuck the price. I'm going to see what it can do and compare.
>>565195013Personally, I still don't really get how the whole thing is gonna work. I've never messed around in group chats before. Or is hostie gonna stuff entire 3k token cards into lorebooks?
preset is coming along well, but i'm catching myself just rewriting pixi. at this point i'm thinking i may just call it a pixi edit for ds4, but i hope to make more changes and optimize a bit more
>>565195198if you mean the final war event hostie hasn't said how it's gonna work, he just said he'll take care of it somehow
>>565195198i think he'll stuff the cards into lbs, yeah.WE ARE FUCKED
>new card drops>within 10 minutes people say it's slopi am convinced no one chats with bots in this general
>>565195718I chat with lots of bots. I just don't chat with malebots.
>how did you know im a sloppa?
>>565195718Calling a card slop is like when you're horsing around with your friends and you say they're gay or some shit. No one takes it seriously.
>>565195945none of you mentally ill niggers are my friends
>>565195945Exactly.
>>565196079wtf.... I thought we had something special...
>>565196257nope!
i'll be friends with every anon who asks (except baitie >:3c)
This general is very cuckie friendly ૮ ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ა
>>565196537be my friend?
>>565196801ok :3
mega slop on the anchor
as we see sota ai models getting closer and closer to 100%ing known benchmarks and matching performances, investors will stop financing the losses of running huge american models for (for what they are) cheap prices and the best models will be only for enterprises who replace a lot of code monkeys for it.that's where dipsy comes in and fucks the amercan ai industry even more.go dipsy.
>>565197107die! die! die!
>>565195143Because you poured your heart into it, that's why.
such boring bait
>>565197252AIEEEEEE
>>565197474:|
>>565197226on one hand I absolutely want to see these ai corps get fucked hardcoreon the other hand I know that at the end of it all, the populace is going to be left holding the bag and not these sociopathic CEOs
>>565197712>on the other hand I know that at the end of it all, the populace is going to be left holding the bag and not these sociopathic CEOsthat would be true if china wasn't literally applying communism into their ai models. gimi, dipsy and others can be run for free and locally. and they're bretty good for being what they are, especially if they're just going to keep improving and somehow lowering the cost of them by heavy optimization due to the hardware blockage. china is literally doing the god's work and fighting against the antichrists that are sama, dario, zucc.
god i'm so relieved and happy that DSV4 ended up being a great roleplay model. opus 3 of our generation
>>565198705It's interesting. I've been trying claude opus 4.7 and this side by side. Opus tends to write *stories* better (since I'm a story man more than a roleplayer), but deepseek has the roleplay kino down pat. I'm probably just gonna burn my Opus credits down and exclusively use Deepseek after that because I cannot justify the price if I have something ten times cheaper.
>>565199182by the way where is the API site for deepseek? I put ten dollars into it a year ago but I don't know where it is now.
>>565199182opus still has an edge when it comes to subtext, pacing and just "getting it". but given the current pricing difference i can't justify paying for anymore opus. especially since i can have so much fun messing with dispy's thinking hehe
>>565199512It also actually listens to the amount of tokens you ask it to use. DS will generate a good amount but sometimes you want a few pages of story to advance and "Out of the box" it doesn't do that. I'm sure you can give it instructions to do so.
>>565199694>I'm sure you can give it instructions to do so.i mean... yeah?>[OOC: Please write like 9 paragraphs please. more is better.]
>>565200034It's really that simple? I thought I'd have to work for it.
>>565193089The exploit that the "malware" used was actually patched by ST a month ago, though I don't know the exact thing that was fixed. I don't even know why there's anything malicious in those extensions, but there is, and it was specifically to expose your API connection info. No big losses, other than StructuredPrefill. There really should be a replacement for that because it could help models that seriously need a prefill (GPT) and models that could probably be boosted by one (most of them I figure), it was actually helpful but I guess the biggest red flag for /aicg/ is something being good without a downside
>>565198705I myself see Deepseek V4 like Claude 2.1: soulful, great variety in swipes, but a little dumb and can make mistakes.I largely prefer that to the big slop models we have. I was going to quit once the model I still find decent was decommissioned, but I can continue with it.
is there a better random sort for bots in ST?
>>565201184yup :3c >>565201373yeah it makes some really silly mistakes here and there. also has trouble with pronouns sometimes but i chalk that up to its chinese roots.i'm certain a v4.1 down the line will fix most gripes we have atp
Her voice was cum wrapped around a cock.
>>565201923If you're in the mood for nonsense metaphors (or is that similes? I can never tell the difference) this kind of nonsense is kino af.
>>565201843They asked for roleplaying feedback not so long ago. The only thing I'm afraid of is that most reviews they receive will be from Redditors, and their meta is pretty shit. So I hope it doesn't enshitten the model.
>>565201843How difficult would it be for them to create a model with an english base? Is this literally training a from scratch model or can you shift it into place with what they already have?
>>565202765(And, of course, I don't even know how much that would help.)
>>565148693Take notes, botmakieshttps://www.reddit.com/r/SillyTavernAI/comments/1syt7kc/character_card_guide_1_how_to_write_character/
>>565201373godI haven't tried ds4 yet but I miss the mad poet so muchmaybe I need to give it a shot
>X wants to show you something...in private.>X can't stop thinking about you. [Multiple scenarios]>What happens when X gets what she wants?>Uploaded by [Default Randomized Name], but they're all different uploaders>Half of them are just called TheWhat is even happening with ChubI know the place has always sucked but the spam is something else
How do you guys get rid of AI's "it's not X but Y" thing?
>>565202575i'm afraid of that too, especially since i feel like i'm the only one capable of taming this model, even though it's really fucking easy (just adhere to proper role order)those redditors have overbloated presets with everything crammed into system, which confuses poor dipsy and leads to bad outputs
>>565203024Retard asks AI for a post about botmakying to make a post for internet points to be responded to by bots and shared for trolling, then this will get into the corpus of future webscraping training. The circle of life is a wonderful, eternal mystery.
>>565203529With Gemma I found I got okay results by putting "don't do that" in the post-history instructionsThe Recast extension is pretty good but also pretty aggressive, can cut out too much without replacing it properlyCurrently using an agent that does it, it's pretty good if a little slower than I want
Model meta for chuds who actually pay for tokens? Opus 4.7 is expensive. Might go back to sonnet idk
So, is this how this thread is going to die? Without a VN?
waiting for the event has me bored, think I might slop something out
>>565204771slop this cuckie*slaps your cock so it goes boing boing boing*
>>565204694>worrying about an /aicg/ vn>when an /aicg/ rpg is the superior choice
>>565204875Turkish hair plug play?
>>565204898If you have into account that LLMs hallucinate, a VN is the superior option.
>>565204894cftf.....
>>565205249if /aicg/ can code an AI assisted vn then /aicg/ can code an RPG where all the mechanics are calculated and handled on the back end which returns a game state that the AI then RPs.
>>565159259trannies are not women period so
>>565205534If it was made, it would only be used to distribute malware. People are wary after falling for /vg/'s previous project.
alright, /aicg/ rpg. i'll make it in rpg maker and add an option to hook an llm into it.anyways, what themes do we want? just /aicg/ high and some eden smith horrorslop?
Baiting aside, are there cool game projects or mods that use AI?Surely the ponyfag one can't be the only one?
>>565206157Elona has a mod that adds AI support so you can talk to NPCs and your party members
>>565206157https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/98631
>>565206157>the ponyfag oneI'm waiting for them to release the Godot source code to steal and make my own stuff.
>>565206221>ElonaI meant Elin. Though maybe Elona does too idk.
>baiting asideI THOUGHT YOU FUCKS WANTED AN RPG?!
>>565181025I-I'm only 300...
>>565206567plz saar send malware arpeegee
>>565182686/vpcai/ is dead...
>>565206318I've been waiting to AI to get as good as it has before trying that. This feels like something that should be in TES 6. AI companions that feel real because they're powered by AI. I already felt enough feels for Lydia based on eight pre-written voice lines, Imagine someone who gets to know you and falls in love with you.
Does anyone still make scenario cards
>>565206781I have a few but they are private and I will not share them haha
Something raw in her voice.
>>565206781No, we are making VNs and RPGs instead. There is no point to scenario cards anymore.
>>565206781So what I generally do is take character cards that exist and just write scenarios with them using my storytelling preset, the Cheesy Pizza
>>565206946It's actually called the cheesey pretzel lol
>>565188018>ask for solution>get a good one>seethe anywayMost retarded anon in here.
>>565148670>>565148693IT'S UPhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJLkQoeU144
I just finished reading welcome to the nhk, and in the afterword Takimoto talks about "Jumping on to the tide of times and earnings tons of money" by writing a hikikomori novel during the recent hikikomori outbreak. I considered writing something similar, but I'm not shameless enough to pour all my degenerate behaviours in text form. I guess someone can write an arc about proxy begging arc, followed by a cargo culting arc ending with the protagonist being rightfully mocked for using w++. Maybe the protag becomes a temporary schizo poster and keeps telling a beloved botmakie to kys, while bombarding his rentry email with weird porn. An accurate book centered around chatbots sounds fun if someone can pull it off. Do you guys think that someone will eventually write a book based off chatbots? I think so, though they'll probably attribute their inspirations to reddit/discord. The themes might be too moralising as well.
I've used deepseek v4 pro a lot now, and it's pretty great. But are there any fetish scenarios i might want to try making before it goes back up in price? Nothing extreme, I'm just looking for ideas. Already tried a bunch like free use.
I'm not posting the log it's hella degenerate but I'm already 50+ messages into a chat with slop using the Opus/DS combo. Quick responses, consistently getting 3+ paragraph outputs that move the plot and describe the feels and senses, rarely having to swipe... I think I'm in heaven. On my main OC chat I started over I'm stuck at 4 messages in because I'm getting very comprehensive with all the details in the lorebook/defs and I'm even spawning spin-off chats with associated NPCs just to get an answer for a question pertaining to the main chat.>>565198705It really does just work out of the box with a small edit needed here and there more so in a new chat. Opus 4.7 works better but for the price I'd stick to DSV4 Pro. Personally I'd build stuff and start new chats with Opus before switching to DS once it gets off the ground.>>565203024>>565203529Skimmed over my big chat and the only isms I've seen are the liberal, use, of, commas, and, run-on, sentences, and the occasional 'abandon' and other familiar words. Without going into instructions, maybe give it more and better prose?>>565204338Opus 4.7 to start, DSV4 to continue.>>565204694The real VN was the one made by {{user}} all along.
>>565207101AI youtube channels were inevitable and some are pretty incredible. First time seeing this guy.
>>565161095Funny thing is that she isn't even really a xiv oc. She's a warcraft oc that got shoved into xiv when the creator stopped playing wow. You can tell because her xiv lore makes absolutely no god damn sense in the setting of the game
>>565194835I wish there was a way to make the thinking as creative as the output but it's been pretty fun so far. Not the best for complex stuff but werks if given good instructions.
>>565206657THE EXTENSIONMAKIE THAT BUCKBROKE /AICG/...
>went to take a short nap>ended up sleeping for 5 hoursall these sleepy bun posts are having an effect on me...
What deepseek preset do I use
>>565197226>>565198173Praise Xi! Glory to China!
>>565207802None. Unironically.
>>565207535look at the last thread for a surprise>>565207802mine that i'll release in about two days
>>565201373Calling 2.1 a little dumb is extremely generous.
>>565208181Relative to its time, it wasn't that dumb and even a big upgrade in smarts compared to 2.0.
>make a persona for being bullied>have a light abuse scenario, a little public humiliation and SA as a treat>go back in time to when I directormaxxed the bully into existence, fork and make them a socially anxious wallflower that romances insteadsomeday we'll have a model that can get to the psychological root of my problem so I don't do this every day
>>565208441That's fair but what I'm getting at is that people have a tendency to gloss over how bad things used to be. You might lament the good of the old models but the bad was completely unsustainable. Deepseek v4 is nowhere near as bad and feels genuinely interested in roleplaying like Opus 3 unlike the newer models that are passive aggressive or in some cases straight up laughing at the character design or scenario.
>>565208827>someday we'll have a model that can get to the psychological root of my problem so I don't do this every daywe already do, it's called seeing a psychologist
>>565207101This is the guy Deepseek devs need to listen to.
>>565208858The comparison made sense to me because Claude 2.1 was fun, less slopped and varied but less smart than the competition while still being smart for its time.So yeah, it's relative to its period. DeepSeek V4 is of course less retarded than 2.1.
>>565208058>look at the last thread for a surpriseSorry I said that backwards. I want to make the output as creative as the thinking. The thinking is easily the best and most in-character part of any response but it drops from a 10/10 to like a 5/10 for the output. It werks, but it's not the same.
>>565208938no that's boring and usually they don't let me have sex with them
>>565209436Just make a chatbot that does that???
you all laughed at me when I told you v4 would save the hobby
>>565209561I was going to dismiss this since I've done this a time or two, but not for over a year. They always put on the shrink persona but never seem to really get it. I should actually try it with current SOTAs. I've also done it more RP style, like actually visiting an office, I should make it more like a text/telehealth thing, just exchanging messages. But then how will I have sex with them? A true conundrum.
>>565209395yeah... fair enough. though in my experiments thinking can get really fucking sloppy, littered with -isms, if you push it too far. then again, if it works it can be delicious schizokino
>>565209436then you don't actually want to figure out the problem, you want to act like you are while having sex (simulated)
>>565209773I did it with a tutor bot on Opus 4.6 and it was pretty good at both tutoring and sex. This is the future bros.
>>565209938Can you post your phone number so we can discuss this privately? Maybe hug'n'kiss?
>>565210032yeah it's 1-800-420-6769
>>565206157https://player2.game/https://player2.game/modshttps://player2.game/games/mfive/mount-blade-ii-ai-influence-ai-diplomacyhttps://player2.game/discover/games/user-4ae8-mio5/game-03c63ebb -> Ciri Kings III — Voices of the Cirihttps://player2.game/games/sectix-vx07/game-4af27ccf -> Baldie Gate
>>565206781As in, cards that are not characters but just scenarios?Those get old very fast, I've no interest in such things, and most people feel the same. In fact, most people don't care for adventurebots either.
>>565210949>Ciri Kings IIIWhat the fuck is a Ciri? Fictional country?
>>565206781see >>565206852, scenario cards feel like they really call for personal customization>>565211049Most people don't care for most things, statistically speaking.
>>565210949>player2these shitstains infiltrate every ai mod on the god damn workshop. scum
>>565211049speak for yourselfacting like most character cards aren't the same way
>>565206781only recent one I can think of ishttps://chub.ai/characters/victrex/blades-of-mirum-b121f33fe653
>>565211071He is referring to Cirilla Fiona Elen Riannon, the Lady of Time and Space, Savior of the World, Empress of Nilfgaard, Queen of Cintra, Heiress to Inis Ard Skellig and Inis An Skellig, Princess of Brugge, Duchess of Sodden, Lady of Metinna, Ebbing and Gemmera, Suzerain of Attre, Nazair, Vicovaro and Abb Yarra.
>>565211071>Ciri is the type of girl who is an introvert most of the time. When she is with others she tends to stay silent and observe the things around her. She has the most special and precious heart out there. When you meet her for the first time things may not go well between you two but as soon as you two segs, i mean click... your long-life slave, i mean friends. Shes has an edgy and cool character and so beautiful. CANT FORGET HOW SCARY SHE IS TOO! AND BADASS! She may have troubles and tends to have a hard time coping but she will push through either way. Never let her go.>Kevin: Im gonna go pull a prank on her>Me: You sure you wanna mess with her? Shes a Ciri..>>565211368idk the trackrecord. know the site from: https://github.com/CarlosNahuelcoy/SillyTavern-Player2 when lookin' for ST summarize extension
>>565176340>In-Chat Agnetic Support>Agneticunusable
>>565206157There's some kind of AI mod for mount and blade
>>565210949I keep meaning to vibe code me a means to hook CC into this mod so I can use Opus with it, but that means getting back into CK3s modding scene which I know will take me 10+ hours to configure before I even start a gameI want to finish at least KCD 1+2, and ME (1-3) before I touch anything else. Paradox games are really only finished once they reach end of life. CK2 still has some features that haven't been ported to CK3 yet.
Blessings upon you and your House.
>>565211483dazzleslop
>play king simulator I madeahhhh man if only I was rich then i could actually live this life
>>565181318despicable
>came up with a fun scenario to rp>open st later>realize i forgotmy day is RUINED
>>565181510you know what they say: if its not nine she aint fine>>565193350same size or?
>>565213570>forgotPlay chess. That will improve your memory like nothing else.Fun fact: every single chess grandmaster from all of history has never suffered a severe cognitive illness such as alzheimers or dementia in their old age. Regular exercising of your brain is the vaccine for all those mental maladies.
>>565207265>hella degeneratewho cares, degenerate general
>>565213978uh oh, ai is gonna give us all alzheimers and brainworms
>>565181510LEWD TAILS ON TAIL ACTION
>>565193350>vore w/underage preybasedpotentially hyper based if the pred is a hag
>>565214595my sixtailed husbando mogging my one tailed self...
>>565214469frfr broski lemme hook u up with a hella sigma King's Gambit variation where you sac the bishop and black has to find four very pogger moves in a row to refute it otherwise they get the L no cap
>>565179380Oh it's a cute! (* >ω<)I probably do need to make the leap, I keep hearing good things about it (ヽ´ω`)
>>565215230>senko with breastsdisgusting
>>565215502if you're interested but unsure about dropping cash you could also ask a botmakie that uses NAI if they're willing to do some gens for you, I know a few are willing
I just tried slapping the Chinese thinking instruction at the end of first message for DS and it's pretty good. But it only works for a few messages, after that thinking returned to normal. Seems it's better if you put it in post history instructions.
>>565215579that's her mom
Rape foxgirls
>>565193469They have but marginally so, it's enough for my fix of cunny.>>565214068Fair enough, I forget I'm not in /g/ anymore. This chat was 100% DS and for what it's worth sometimes it ends up repeating what I say sometimes but that's probably just the character being as old as she is (ten y.o. out of 10). Even with the temperature down to 0.7 there was enough chaos/creativity that had me thinking about handling the response on my end, the transition from teasing to plap wasn't just 'take me Mister Anon' for example. Umi-chan is a pretty small card considering it's a card with a dated format but V4 Pro handled it well enough that I only had to swipe a few times like this message.With that out of the way, let's talk about Babanon.
>>565215990You mean as in CNC roleplay right?
>>565207265if you don't mind me asking, what jailbreaks/prefills are you using for both of them, and at about what point are you switching from one to the other? Just getting back into the hobby after not touching it for a year or two, last time I messed with it was back when you could still get free claude through slack lol
>>565216085>With that out of the way, let's talk about Babanon.who?
>>565216085I miss Babanon. His cards weren't mindblowing but they had just enough structure to work as starting points for fleshing out into bigger scenarios.
deepseek v4 is complete garbage for me. even if i was considering api costs i would unironically rather use gemma 4 for freenot sure what people see in it
>>565216159Default on both.>Main: Write {{char}}'s next reply in a fictional chat between {{char}} and {{user}}.>PHI empty>>565216401The botmakie who blessed the world with Umi-chan, a pizza delivery guy's pipedream.>>565216679He's what got me into this early on, the other card I used from him was Sweet Lolipop and I managed to wrestle it into working locally on an 8gb card using Kunoichi DPO. That was like two years ago though.She didn't call me that because of an ism by the way, I explicitly asked her in-character to call me that. I know it's slop but damn it I like it.
>>565217080>Daddy>Not "Papa"
>>565216886post a log of you using it
>>565216886yeah v4 is good, but kimi 2.6 usually beats it on the RP front.it thinks too much, yeah, but its RP sense and initiative is outstanding
>>565216886then you're literally using it wrong. post your preset so i can laugh at you and tell you where you fucked up
>>565217612I've just been turning reasoning off entirely for Kimi K2.6.
>>565217419You're right, I should correct her. This was kinda touched upon in message 36 but I wanted to talk to the girl a bit between the plapping. I'm eventually going to bring her Anon's apartment where Non and Onan (Anon's friends) will all play with Umi-chan. Anon will be daddy, Non is papa, and Onan father. I wonder how long it'll take for the AI to mess it up.
>>565213782same size, yeah. "tinies" don't really do it for me.
>>565218519respect
what if the voreist is smaller than the voree
