>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/04-10-2026-update.125825/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>565076167
Is he even good at anything besides kidnap-walker strats anymore?
Reminder that if you play any of these characters, you are dishonest
Sex with Venator
>>565149879What's up with Wraith? She's not op, is she?
>>565149879is doorman and apollo that strong? I feel like they're just fucking annoying
>>565149879I rarely see any apollos and they are usually shut down with slowing hex, do people really struggle against him? I know his parry ability is BS
>>565150094she's the designated 1v11 character>scales extremely hard>difficult to punish>auto wins 1v1s>takes objectivesher only weakness is a mediocre lane
>>565150094People who haven't changed their bans since March I guess.
>>565149854most banned hero this month btw.i play him alot even before the recent changes and even then i think hes super overtuned. hes a stomp in low tier & mid tier lobbies but he kinda falls off if you have decent movement and know how to counterbuy.
>>565150140Eternus games end faster so Apollo being the strongest character in the game for 20 minutes means he's the strongest character in the game for 70-80% of a match.
>>565150094She was top 3 carries till the last patch so a lot of players likely didn't change their ban.And she's still a really powerful carry after her nerfs the best raw kit of any of the gun carries.
Silvertroons; how do I play her, what do I build and what do I level. tyrn I have 50% winrate with her but I think shes pretty strong in high shitlow
>>565150257parry the hex or click parry after the hex and get away scott free, either way it does nothing
>>565150489>parry the hexwhat.huh.HUH.>>parry the hexHUHH??????????
>>565150140>>565150257Playing against a good Doorman/Apollo in lane (or worse, both) is actual aids cancer, I don't care if they fall off a cliff later
>>565150257His parry alone can win a fight in enternus let alone him setting up any carry he's paired with for a free win lategame.
>>565150563wait until you learn how many things you can parry with counterspell ALONE.
>>565150563Yeah you can parry debuffs, this works with counterspell as well, though I think only Apollo can do stupid shit like parrying the firerate slow from juggernaut or the slow from colossus.
>>565150563>Parry downplayers when they learn what you can actually parry
>>565150563apollo is extremely carried by parry, yesit parries everything
>enemy team 2 support 1 being dynamo>my team 0 support Gee, thanks nigger devs!
All my games recently have been one sided stomps, I'm not having fun any more
>>565149879HONESTvy
kek, look at holidays HP bar
>>565149879My wife? Honest.
>>565152258Holliday is the most useless character besides Rem. No idea why people play her, theres a reason why she has the lowest stats in nearly everything
Just watched a Warden get 15k souls over everyone else by just farming. He didn't really do anything in lane or got any killsI dunno how people are farming this hard. I parked my ass in my own lane and grabbed boxes where I can but I couldn't even remotely match him
>learning Sinclair bolts>bully Rem+Paradox duo raping yellow lane>go gank>kill both of them with a boltthis the most bonerific thing in the game
>>565152719I think i saw one good holiday player so far, the rest seemed pretty useless.I feel like theres potential though. Like the entire game it felt like if she just bought 1 defensive item to survive my r ->heavy melee -> wall dash --> heavy melee combo and made use of her dashpads properly she could have actual impact.So far the only feeling i get is that holiday players just generally suck, but i can see the potential
silvertroons are the opposite of honest.
>>565149879>my favourite characters aren't in yup, im honest
>we have to fight urn we have to fight urn fight urn or we lose>whole team fights urn>enemy just kills our entire basewonderful, the urn and 1 kill was worth all our base guardians and both our shrines
>>565152976>only feeling i get is that holiday players just generally suckHolliday in general just sucks, so many other characters do her job better and don't provide utility to the enemy team (jump pads). She has such terrible scaling that her barrels become useless if the enemy team buys 1-2 spirit resist items and her gun barely does anything because its outclassed by all the other M1 characters. Theres no point to play her
>>565153286>urn is a shit objectivewow, no way
>>565153286you're supposed to already have lanes pushed up when it's time for urn
>>565153286>Fight for urn>Lose game>Let them cap urn>They get 10k souls and anthoer 3k worth of raw stats >Lose gameYou're fucked either way if you don't have map control when they grab urn.
Shiv right click should be removed so the rest of his kit can be more than useless filler.
>>565153527I mean i dont really play the harvest moon RNG gamemode, but wouldnt it be sensefull to use her as a roamer with her dashpad to set up ganks from various otherwise undoable angles?So far all the dashpads did was trolling me when she was in my team
>>565152976holliday seems like a garbage character in brawl her strongest aspect is her map presence and 5-10 minute power level which lets her throw her weight around. from then on she's a high mobility lasso bot, which isn't a terrible function, but neither of her strengths would be relevant in brawl
>>565153286I don't get it. I know a sizeable portion of deadlock's playerbase has never played a MOBA before, but by the time you get out of alchemist/arcanist you should be able to tell when the urn is worth it or not. then again people up to fucking archon still haven't figured out it's a million times better to shove a wave for 1000~ souls than to ignore and let the wave crash and half-rape your walker or base defenses so you can kill that camp worth 100~ souls...
Least attractive Silver player.
>>565153286The only thing I won't trade for urn is midboss and the patron. It's that good.Now help me deliver this thing.
>>565154256Schnoz
How do silencers stack? Like if I have Silence wave on Drifter and his Rend maxed, if I use them both at the same time do they add to each other or tick down independantly
>>565154256>hair looks like a wig>muscles but ribs and other skeletal protrusions from malnutrition>crystal fag>bracelets that haven't been popular since the 90s>dystopian bedroom less furnished than a cheap motel room>1000 sucked dicks stare
>>565154705>muscles but ribs and other skeletal protrusions from malnutritionthose are serratus anterior muscles, bloatlord
>steal enemy doubles on the dot at 8 minutes>3 minutes later all of our sinners are still up>put a single helper on one>"Hey Rem maybe you could steal the enemy sinners instead of our own"
>>565153951Shiv is only scary if I'm abrams because if I want to do anything to the nigger I just have to accept the -60% spirit resist.
>>565154870>a hit dog will hollerhow's that famine going for you?
I don't like Shiv's design so I would prefer he were permanently low tier so I don't need to look at him
>>565155238insane shit taste
>>565152108based>>565152321BASED
>>565155238________________BLEED_____________
>>565155089Geez anon, I knew you were fat, but trans too?
match making would improve tenfold if solo queues only fought against solo queues
>>565153951wrong on both accounts
Geist's ult needs to be completely reworked. Genuinely dogshit game design.
>>565155883sorry bro, you're getting put as the solo player for a 5 stack, one of whom has literally never played the game before, good luck carrying your team!
>>565156042at least the rest of her kit is weak, to make up for it... right?
>>565155883They don't even need to do that, just make it so eternus 3-stacks aren't put up against FUCKING PHANTOM PLAYERS
I was just in a game with an Infernus who admitted he had taken 150mg of THC half an hour before the match started and that guy was fucking high off his shit the entire match. Went 10-16 and kept thinking he was playing Abrams. We won.
>>565156182solos v solosduos v duostriples v triples6 stack v 6 stack4 and 5 can fuck and die
>>565156343>>5651560825 stacks are the most dishonest shit evergenuinely how hard is it to find a 6th player?
I love mindlessly holding w and m+1 with the occasional 1 cast to win.
>>565155238I still think about that guy who started dressing like shiv, styling his hair like shiv, and carrying a leather jacket around because he looks up to him so muchI hope he finds you and makes you BLEED
>>565156770inbuilt healing, infinite ammo ability and one of the better get away abilities. and an amazing ult. Why isnt she better? too many choices with AP prio?
>>565155238I think everyone else in the deadlock community is being ironic when they pretend to like him. He looks like shit, he sounds like shit, he doesn't fit the setting, he's annoying to fight against and annoying to have on your team because you wish you just had a real tank instead
>>565157276cope and bleed
>>565157276DA BAXTUH SOHCIETEH HAS YO NUMBAH
>>565157448no bro the chinese name haze/vindicta with perfect aim, who starts shooting the milisecond you are out of cover, isnt cheating!
>>565153906>fight at base>kill 4 of their players>take rejuv, or just push>kill their patron while they're stuck 2v6 cause they wanted to run an urntheir base was on last stage I have no idea why the team was obsessed with the urn
>>565154256seeing this dude again gave me whiplash
>>565157740gotta get my money up
As a Seven main, he takes way too long to come online, i'm just going to play a better hyper carry
>>565156658If things go bad they have someone to shit on.
>>565159365If you like Seven because you hold M1 and kill people play Venator, if you like Seven because you rape objectives play Infernus.
>>565149879apollo and mirage love!
>>565160334I like him because of his kit and design.
>Woah hundreds of items, so many combinations!>It's all the same 24~ items ad nauseumRemoving the two extra slots has been terrible for variety
>>565157130Boosted shitters in ranks they shouldn't be. Almost all wraith players only play wraith with a forced side of haze and maybe infernus. Just look at metro for an example; A wraith abuser at eternus rank that sucks massive nigger balls at the game.
>>565160334please don't play Venatorsince Deathy put him at the top of his list I've struggled to get matches
>late night deadlock>left lane is feeding crazy, like 25 deaths in as many minutes crazy>winning my lane handily, right lane is eking out a draw>painful, grinding loss, left lane players are comming and coordinating and trying>right lane geist just whines all game in his weird Germanic accent, ends game 4/4/9 with most farm>as enemy is taking patron, type in all chat "low impact lane, wcyd">geist dogpiles and starts shitting on left lane in all>"(I actually meant Geist)">literal autistic shriek over mic>starts cursing at me in his weird Germanic language>tries to add me to steam after game ends>posts comments on my profile for hours>added my fuckin Spotify account with the same username to try and harass me further>accept his steam invite, open voice chat with him on my phone>while he is screaming incoherently go to bathroom>open mic and take a fat fucking dump with my phone held next to the toilet>block>wash hands and phone>sleep like a baby>mfw
>>565149879how is Wraith dishonest?genuinely perturbed, perplexed, puzzledm1 hero with a burst option and a cool but low impact ult
>3 out of 5 game tonight were leaverscan we PLEASE fix match making
>>565161637>>565150265
>>565161505god apollo is so hot
so what is the in game term for the playable characters? it can't be "hero" right?
>>565150476Roam.You should be roaming and doing everything your team isn't doing at the moment.Someone left a lane? Your lane now.You're sneaking through enemy jungle? Harass their carry and leave.Sidelane is 1v1ing? Gank.You should basically be playing to freak out the enemy team as much as possible by never showing up on the map so they don't know what you're doing.Good aim with her is a complete must because her gun is 50% of her damage.Eido's build is probably still her best build. Express shot and silence wave are her best items even after Silence wave's nerf.You should not be treating werewolf as a "I'M FUCKING INVINCIBLE" button you should treat it as a finisher/1v1/escape button.I like putting two points in gun then a point in bola first but some people really like maxxing gun instantly.
>>565162726Hero, Mystic, Ritualist, Occultist, CharacterTake your pick.Using Champion WILL get you made fun of.
>>565162726toon
>>565163719post you're
Graves kinda feels unplayable on phantom+ lobbies. All her builds got nerfed and she just gets constantly dived and blown up. The only thing the character does is guarantee one of the lanes is permanently pushed, that's it
>>565157276>a greaser in a leather jacket and a bunch of knives doesn't fit the game set in New York City, 1949European faggot (Eurofag) hours have begun, I see
>>565163126I sometimes use champion since I played Battlerite for a thousand hours and champion do fit better than hero, but mystic or occultist is best.
>>565163126>Using Champion WILL get you made fun of.Good. Leaguefags deserve worse
>>565162773Any more roamGODs?I've been playing nothing but Paradox, Vindicta, and Mo+Krill because they always need to be in a fight. The "farm till 30" playstyle bores me so much.
Laneslop and gankslop are both literally meaningless and don't net you any real advantages.The higher you climb in rank the more obvious it becomes that this game boils down to farmslop and urnslop only.
I'm permastuck Phantom and i feel like i'll remain here for as long as i play with my friends. I mean they're not bad but i feel like i'm better. I'm not rank-obcessed enough that i'll stop playing with them but at the same time i do wonder how high i could get if i played solo only.
>>565164082The hero's bad. Her spirit build is non functional and her gun build takes ages to come online when nearly every other m1gger is good immediately and is still outperformed by the actual carries.She will never be allowed to be good because people cry and scream about her auto aim gun and the skulls even though they're the literal worst ability in the game.
>tfw want to play deadlock but its 12am and i suck at the game
>>565164339>urnslopYou mean urnkino. A 6v6 going down at 10:30 is always fun.
>>565164339Ganking buys time and space that you utilize for urns and stealing camps, yea it won't win you games if you don't capitalize on it.
>>565164339How important is box and stature RNG the higher up you climb?
>>565164339Lane is the most important part of the game because losing lane hurts my ego and makes me not want to play anymore
>>565164507I'm genuinely not even joking, the entire laning phase in Ascendant lobbies is decided by boxes. Basically the team who got more/better boxes gets ult first and gets free kills on the enemy lane. Its basically box simulator with everyone running around for boxes every single wave, its kind of cringe
>>565164721random box amounts was a dumb idea idk why they even put it in
>>565162726niga
>ctrl f victor>0 mentionsoh welli love victor
>Watch out heya-hoya bird coming in>"You can't say that bro lol"
I understand now. You bait the dispel with toxic bullets (it's doing a million damage because you built spirit) and then mark them and reapply toxic after they dispel. It's devious.
*chomps on you
pekeko ik youre on this board you are the most retarded & annoying faggot ive ever played deadlock with PLEASE kill yourself and never play again I've genuinely never seen a worse or more annoying player
>sigh... death to the arroyos...
>>565165141Yeah you and every other stupid foid in existence. Why not give my IDF brother Drifter some attention for once?
https://discord.com/invite/43nxnnAefemboy deadlock server :)3
>>565165947sry
>>565166282i like him too but im loyal to victor
>>565165947>so assblasted about getting wrecked he has to make a post to cry about itimagine being you
>>565166594clearly you've never had a rem rant about muslims all game while fullclearing your own sinners and dropping a bag to apollo the entire game
>>565166770I had an ivy carrying me away from the opponent when they were 100 hp and stunned, like 10 times in a brawlmatch, does that count?
>>565163126i choose sinner
>>565166942street brawl isnt real its just an alternate universe
>>565166942idk ive never played streetbrawl
i called my team a bunch of niggers and smashed my monitorthat will show them
My wife Celeste! her horsecocks BIIIIIIIIG.
>>565167656posting this makes it you even more pathetic
>Finally crawl my way our of ritualist>Get dumped right back down because of retards feeding Warden and standing in fireThe suffering is endlessAlso I don't know how you're supposed to stop someone from farming. It takes too much effort to get the drop on someone and it's time spent not working on your own objectives if they get away
>>565153286>>565153590The urnphobia of this thread is... concerning, to say the least.
>>565168184you're DROPPING ME?>why does that urn have a visible labia
>>565168184why the urn has an ass
>>565168545It's not labia, it's his buttcrack
>>565168184Help me deliver this thing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>565167973>how you're supposed to stop someone from farmingYou generally don't unless you have the communication to get people to jump them in a way they can't just movement away from
You know what, I'm gonna say it. Urn should've been a girl.
>>565164721This very much. I'm trying to have fun in laning phase and suddenly I have to sit on guardian or go do boxes myself because teammate fucked off to boxmax. It's arguably a more boring meta than when split laning bug existed.
>>565168774would people run it more? probably.
>>565167973There's no way in this game to stop anyone getting a lead because the bigger the lead the harder it is to kill them in terms of the investment and risk you need to commit to do so and the problem is killing someone hardly does anything to gap the soul advantage as kills give a pathetic amount of souls and respawn timers are really short till much later.It's best to just play around objectives and win teamfights/urns/down walkers than try to shut someone down via killing. The true counter to this shit is ALWAYS cursed relic.
>>565168184Add urn depots to the scoreboard and I'll start running it every 5 minutes.
>>565169337I introduced a friend to the game recently and he's obsessed with running the urnhe'll run it the instant it spawns in lane every time, no matter how good or bad the game is going
>teammates complaining that i am not using my ult and not fighting early>im seven with power surge buildokay guys
>>565169451Yeah there's uses for Seven's ult early but it's insanely annoying when people die and start looking for reasons why it's not their fault and decide it's on you for not pressing 4 and tickling them.
>>565169424he can unironically get to phantom just with this
>>565169725its funny i was against lash yamato too like basically just asking for me to go suicide. def are uses early tho i dont disagree, just wasnt these situations
>>565169424not kidding, he's on the right track
>>565150094>presses 1 once>rapes 2/3rds of your health
>>565170082More like 1/6th but she does get like 6 of them.Getting jumped in early game as wraith when you have 4 of those fuckers and you slap them all down and watching their health bar go down like it's fucking yu-gi-oh https://youtu.be/Ucxce_1nJgM
>>565149881me on the right
>>565153286>>565168184I hate this stupid thing like you wouldn't believe. I want it removed from the game. Genuinely sick of retarded teammates throwing objectives, games and fucking walkers to do this retarded thing.Like oh yes throwing away blocking the enemy team from taking two extra items was totally worth the 3k in the stupid urn. Totally. You didnt even push up the fucking lane half way up before starting.
>>565170621urn is better than 1 walker
>parry abrams repeatedly>he ragequitsyou love to see it
>>565149879>not a single one of my mains are therefeels so fucking good man
>>565149879Mirage is anti-fun, just like furion.
>>565170770You know damn well its never just ONE walker.People will actully abandon lanes from acorss the whole fucking map to do the stupid fight for it. Unfortunately for me the same tard who does this abandons lane to the two tards they fed and they take two.
>>565149879Us kelvinGAWDS are actually honest?
>>565170621>fucking walkers1. Urn disappears in 5 minutes. Or worse, taken by the enemy team.2. First urn is worth 3900 + buffs + carrier bonus. Walker is 4000 all game, so urn already has bigger soul value.3. You can take walkers later, when the slots actually matter.In fact I think people throw lives and time more on walker pushes than urn fights.>>565171093It's usually zero, sometimes one, but rarely two. If you're losing two walkers on an urn fight, the game is already lost. Your teammates can't macro.Btw I'm still giving up two walkers for one urn, just based on the temporary status of the urn.
>>565171163IN HERE, I AM BLING
>>565149548how old is the average deadlock gamer? I'm 26... I feel like I'm too old to get into Hero Moba Shooters and I should stick to Dota.
>there are genuinely anons that think walker > urnLmao. If you're not fighting for urn in the mid game, the game is already lost.
>>56517154326 isn't old and there are 40+ yo uncs itt
>>565171543Jesus christ it's just a video game play it and if you don't like it stop playing it why are you worrying about being too unced to hit keys and wiggle a mouse around
>>56517154333just drink a coffee, jimmy
I enjoy roam in MOBA but I don't want to learn troovement
>>565171903just build extra stam items and pick drifter or some shit then
>>565171903ok
>Its another "enemy team has a minimum of 50% spirit resist and your entire team is spirit" street brawl episode
>>565171903>learn troovementStop holding W and hold A or D and turn the camera in the respective direction to turn in mid air and gain speedHold down crouch as you mantle to slide after and gain speedJump and dash at the same time to go slightly faster than a regular dashUse heavy melee as an extra dashWall jump off the edge of an object to gain extra momentumThat's 90% of "troovement" and you didn't even have to pin any estrogen
Who the fuck builds alchemical fire other than vindicta
>>565172170it's bullshit that anything beyond a dash jump in this game is both not explained and expected, all the while being physics exploits they never worked out of source because surf map fags would be upset
>>565172254Mo and/or Krill rarely, Holliday, Sinclair.
>>565171903I think you actually want to learn "troovement" but you're too lazy and/or stupid to, so instead you complain about it every single threat by combining the word with "tranny", another one of your obcessions and singular means for which your entire worldview is formed because you've been driven to insanity by shitposting on 4chan
>>565154434They are two separate debuffs that tick independently
lost at draft moment
>>565172308also doorman if you don't play like a kidnap sperg
>>565172272Half the mechanics in the game are not explained and expected because they don't have a proper tutorial as they're actively developing the game and based on Dota 2 they probably won't explain any of those even when they push this out to a full release in 5 years.
>>565172272Dota might be more your speed
>>565149881>>565170564Calm down Mina!
>>565167030i know what you are
Valve should add an actual vampire to deadlock>bro you gook whore gold digger?doesn't count since vampires need to be white.
>>565172713he says, as he posts tranime gookslop
>>565172342the strength of movement undermines the decision making of mobas when you can go to the wrong lane and get to the right one 8 seconds laterthey should have nerfed zipdashing, superior stam, corner boosts, edgeboosts and jump pads ages ago but instead they made celeste and doubled down
>>565171903>troovementyou need to stop giving everything over to troonswhat else have you not touched because of this?
>>565172808post it to the forum
>>565172391I don't see it.
>>565172713>New blood young vampire rising the ranks>Old blood borderline feral murderhobo vampire>Old blood high society Archvampire Count(Missing)They definitely have room for one more vampire.
>bro you
>>565172904it's too late now, they made their bed with mina > apollo + celestealso i'm not the original poster i just wanted to explain why someone would hate movement other than being lazy
>>565173146its a core game mechanic, like it or not. If you like standard MOBAs there are some great ones on Steam I hear, such as Dota2
>>565173261She's holding her hands out to futilely attempt to block the goo ball that's about to slam into her then bounce off the wall behind her to roll over her again
bro your new vampire character?
>>565173343you'll realize the folly of your ways when it becomes gunz the duel instead of a strategy shooter as they add more and more unkillable heroes that rotate in 10 seconds from anywhere
>>565173513count draquarious
>>565173482Why is Mina such a slut for BIG GOO COCKS?
Fucking faggot won't get out my ear when I'm carrying his bitchass. You can spectate me so often cause you're always dying, bitch.
Now that valve is back from hawaii can we please get around to making infernus have 200 max health at boon 1
>>565173774This is one of many reasons why I have voice comms muted outright. NA players just can't shut the fuck up
>>565173764GREENED
Silver objectively needs buffs.
IN HEREI AM TWINK
>>565173525ok
Need help on yellow!!!!!!!!
>>565164187I miss battlerite
>>565174013he looks mentally trans
>>565173513damn straight timmy
>>565174145dis nigga was a vampire? i thought he just hunted them
>>565174145wesley snipes is based
>second infernus game ever>win in under 25 minutes
IN HEREI AM KING!
>>565173821we have improved the visuals of Infernus dash residue, allowing players to more easily see the lava on the floor. Also we have increased the spirit scaling of Flame Dash at t3 and at t2 added 2 meters of width.
>>565174145>>565173513When will designers realize black women are not meant to be cool characters? Wraith and Calico have no appeal, meanwhile time and again we've had cool niggas like Infernus or Abrams but they keep making stronk black womyn instead of quirky feminine negress waifus.
>>565174334Calico is not cool agreed, but Wraith is pretty baller
>>565174248Blade is a half vampire
>>565174145ADD A STUNT DOUBLE OF THIS NIGGA TO THE GAME RIGHT NOWVen and Blade lane would go hard against grifter and mina cucks.
>>565174274is bloodletting blood tribute?
>>565174334>wraithi quite enjoy my qt smartass gambling negress thank you
>parries>movement>headglitching>insta-cast abilities>floaty/low gravity charactersthese are all dishonest at best tranny at worst
>>565154256nigga looks like basshunter
>>565174546It's Shiv's deferred damage.
>>565174546it's shiv damaging himself with his passive
>>565174652I report everybody who parries me for cheating. FUCK PARRIES.
I'm fucking done being honest. Give me the most dishonest hero in the game where I can just emerge from farming for 20 minutes and destroy everyone.
>>565174902Infernus dash build
>>565174902Infernus but you dont have to power farm as hard as others
Is Infernus just OP at the top level of deadlock because he's annoying to deal with but not impossible at lower ranks where I'm at. I go on average something like 5/5/10 on Infernus.
heheheh you see dat shiet nigguh
>>565174754>>565174760so the graph is incoming damage from an infernus, but that's strange since shouldn't there be other abilities from the rest of the infernus' team on the graph then?
>>565175110are you building mostly greens?
>>565175110Are you running the dash build
>>565174902>Give me the most dishonest heroevery m1gger ever
guntrannies are so shit at aiming they will continue to beg for more gun buffs and act like gun hasn't been extremely strong for well over a year now. in fact gun is so strong right now that nearly every spirit hero just builds gun because its better than their spirit heavy kit. but gun downplayers can't aim so they don't know how good it actually is
>>565174902vyper if you can aim. splitshot and merc mag are quite good
>>565175364spiritroon cope kekw
>>565174902seven. but he isn't as good as haze/victor in 1v11you need 2-3 competent teammates
>>565175317No it's outgoing damage from an Infernus, bloodletting is attributed as your damage.
>>565175465oh i see, thanks
>>565174902Silver, undisputed SSS free win hero.
This sharingan passive sounds OP as fuck. Make it a mahou shoujo and this would be 100% pick rate easily
>>565175562Deranged downplaying Silvertroon but if you can aim it's true.
>>565175364Every M1 gets shut down by plated armor and bullet resilience>inb4 just buy AP roundYes just buy a 6.4k item whose sole purpose is to counter plated armor
>>565175593thats retarded
>>565175646>Just buy a 6.4k item and m1ggers, who run the game up to the point you can afford it and have already bought spirit resilience to turn almost every source of spirit damage into a joke, are completely shut down>Ignore that they farm faster than other characters and can put together the money for APR really easily
>>565175259ayooo all yall niggas finna PEEP DAT SHIT hehehe
>>565175593>cool sea monster>actually lol it's just another humanoideither go with slightly off innsmouth fishman or all in with a real sea freak. viscous is also a disappointing design but he's a joke character
>>565175629>calling silver SSS tier is downplaying We're reaching levels of upplaying previously thought impossible
>>565175995Nobody actually likes playing monsters that’s why League went all in on the anime aesthetic
>>565175995>viscous is also a disappointing design but he's a joke characterto be fair, hes as placeholder as it gets since his body is literally just a recolored space suit
>M1's arent that bad broAdress me.
>>565176084Sure thing Chang.
add a fishman that looks like he has down syndrome or fetal alcohol syndrome, or both. there hasnt been a single ugly character out of the past 12 new characters, its all sexy tumblr people
What do you think about my hero idea:Kel the Crustixian: Pincher | Snip | Snap1 - Scuttle: Kel dashes forward with increased speed and significantly lower turn rate. Each enemy gets violently pinched. Does more damage on heroes, scales into a backstab effect with increased damage if he pinches from behind.2 - Ambush: Kel digs underground and gains HP regen while reducing movement speed by 50% and turns invisible. Can be pressed again before the duration ends to make Kel latch onto an enemy hero, reducing their movement speed and dealing damage until Kel is heavy meleed a number of times.3 - Ixian Shell (Passive): Whenever Kel takes a burst of damage from either gun or spirit, he gains resistance to that type of damage for a brief duration.4 - Snippity: Kel snaps at an enemy with his enchanted claw, dealing a moderate amount of pure damage and automatically applies a number of on-hit effects from your items. Number of times scales with ability level.
>>565176174Every character can apply this
>>565176264graves and celest are not pretty and i will not fall for gooner propagana
>>565176174Core M1 item.
>>565175593I actually would love to see a Bristleback hero in this game.
>>565176174i found the shiv/victor player
>>565176174>Toxic Bullets>Healbane>Inhibitor>Crippling HeadshotYour heal, sir?
>>565176512>shiv buying inhibhuh?
>>565175834>Ignore that they farm faster than other characters and can put together the money for APR really easilyBabby's first moba? The point is you don't let the marksman freefarm all game nigga, contest his lanes, gank his jungle holy shit.
why does no one buy bullet resilience anyway
>>565176698no, m1ggers get antiheal like inhib to shut down a fed shiv. this guy >>565176174 is saying that inhib is a dishonest item
>>565176862Because m1 damage isn’t a problem, spirit damage is
>>565176760>Babby's first mobaNTA but I think Deadlock is certantly trying to strive to be this. The game seems far more forgiving to losing early unlike total ass like LoL or Dota.
>>565176928so we should nerf spirit and buff gun more?
>>565176862Juggernaut is better also m1ggers deal like 40% spirit damage before late game
Watching the Vegas tier list and you can genuinely tell that half of these heroes he doesn't have a real opinion on and is just drawing from blanks or patch notes.>Haze's biggest nerf was no sliding during ultNo you fucking nigger it was the fucking +1 target nerf.>idk why people complain about gravesbecause she's easy and her kit is annoying to play against>Holiday in C tier above his D-tier heros>gun holiday is soooo much damage bruLike nigger what the fuck are these opinions?>There's no point in playing spirit because gun has zero downtime minus reloading compared to spirit cooldownsFinally a good fucking opinion out of this faggot.
>>565177018Watching anyone other then the GOAT Metro is a waste of time anyway.
>>565176862Almost every single m1 carry deals spirit damage too so it feels badLike Wraith, Seven, Infernus, Mirage
>>565176862spiritsissies wont like this one, i fear...
We don't need to nerf spirit more than it already is. What we need is to nerf the spirit scaling on the m1 carries.
>>565177018>he doesn't know
We need to buff melee and melee heroes
>>565176965I mean it’s pretty obvious that m1 needs buffs is it not. You see Bebops, rems, and Graves building gun because spirit does insane damage no matter what. Everybody builds gun and still 60% of hero damage in the game is spirit.
>>565176862Gun damage is too high, you buy metal skin to survive their burst/kill them with yours and/or juggernaut to cut their fire rate.
>>565177328You're joking but there are some people who unironically believe that.
>>565177317I think some of the Street Brawl items like Runed Gauntlets should be added to the main game.It genuninely seems weird stuff like it and Mystical Piano arent actully in.
Can we buff Drifter's spirit scaling
>>565176965Gun should be left alone but hybrid M1 damage needs to be gutted or left to a specific few heroes
>>565176862Because Metal Skin feels better even if its flawed
>>565177018>Holiday in C tier above his D-tier herosprobably shit on pre 15 minutes by one tricks occasionally, causing seethe
>>565174902Infernus is the easiest, don't really need to aim, farms for free, impossible to catch. Seven requires a bit of aim, also farms for free but can be farmed by pickoff characters. Venator kinda just statchecks everyone at any point in the game, if you're not super behind you can probably just kill anyone and even if you are behind he farms well so you catch up and kill people anyways but its a more agressive-leaning hero. Vyper is also crazy but needs more positioning and aim, and also doesn't farm that easily. Could also just play mirage, hero is actually TITLECARD you can just int into people all game and at worse its an even trade
>>565177660After watching a spirit drifter go 0 and 15 I can safely say go fuck yourself
>>565178001>Infernus is the easiest, don't really need to aim, farms for free, impossible to catchand shits out so much damage you can buy 8 greens and still top damage in the lobby
This needs to be in deadlock
>>565174902>Nobody recommending GeistJust play Geist. You get to be a BROOLER and a carry all in one and basically can't be ganked
Can they just fucking GUT infernus already, take away his dash's charges this shit is the most obnoxious garbage in the fucking game.
>>565176862Because gun res shred is better than spirit res shred to the point where if you want to counter gun you're better off looking for firerate reduction type shit. Gun shit in general is just so much more consistent than Spirit to the point where even Lash gun is better than spirit Lash. Spirit res shred however isn't so easily applied and you're usually spending cooldowns to apply spirit res shred just to make the cooldowns you already spent do more damage. So you have to spend your worse cooldowns to make your better cooldowns do more damage. Gun doesn't really have that problem.>>565177660Just revert those fuck ass melee->Spirit changes they did. He was so much more fun.
>>565177018He's generally right about the overall meta though. Like, eveyone has too much HP. Everyone having too much HP makes spirit heroes feel like shit. On top of that, gun items are just so much better at actually dealing damage than spirit items which in theory should be ok, the Dota philosophy is that casters fall off late but have good utility and crowd control, but in deadlock the gun heroes have crazy utility and are good all game, so they also scale better and have better kill potential. Its just very lopsided
>>565178179Genuinely all he needs is for movement-restricting items and abilities to immediately interrupt flame dash instead of making it so he can't start it. He would be entirely manageable that way.>>565178180Melee + spirit drifter dealing 90% of someone's HP with a single 1 was so much fun, i miss it. Wasn't even good, just a fun build
>>565178203No clue why they keep buffing HP makes ganking even harder on an already small map especially for spirit heroes who should be doing the early game bullying to keep carries from scaling, also makes certain heroes with high health pools even more obnoxious to deal with (like Abrams or Geist)It's gotten to the point where I am just buying decay on everyone
>>565178376I'm fine with either or. Both seem like reasonable changes to Infernus.
>game just keeps bleeding more and more players>threads slowed to a crawl>even deathy is doomingLMAO nice shit game deadchuds
>>565178597I still don't understand why people like you exist.
>>565176862The other options like phantom strike/ metal skin/ warp stone are just betterjuggernaut too because it reduces the slow that m1ggers do to you just by shootingit's usually not feasible to tank gun carry damage because it's so much of it so you take the other more active items to dodge it entirely. However there ARE some characters that buy bullet resistance but they're tanky anomalies like shiv
>>565177018>(finnish accent)Holliday's not really güüd...That's all I need.
>>565178376>immediately interrupt flame dash instead of making it so he can't start it.A problem with that could be that its all or nothing, it would have to work on every movement ability the same. Which would throw a lot of shit out of whack instead of just fixing big obvious problems like him being OP or health pools and other game design stuff anons are talking bout now
>>565178597BASED fuck deadlock movement trannies killed the game (It's going to just spike again when they release a new update)>>565178376>>565178180I have 300 games of drifter and his new version is way more fun for drifter.>higher scaling on rend>innate silence>HUGE massive damage on stalkers mark especially with escalating exposure that ALSO reduces healinghe's so much more fun right now but I'll admit I do miss the melee build and winning lanes for free with melee lifesteal. I think he's more fun overall now especially with assists being full stacks
>>565178702mikaels tier list when?
>>565178806My main problem with drifter right now is that he gets soloed by debuff remover, which everyone buys every game. Just yesterday i had a game with six debuff removers on the enemy team and it was just miserable
>>565177018>dislike streamer and their opinions>watch them anywayzoom zooms, why are you like this
>>565162773ty for the answer...why does eidos build have so much spirit stuff tho?
>>565178887Dispel is 40 seconds and mark is sub 10 second CD with CDRyou can also stagger or bait their dispels with focus lens (damage applies even with dispel) or your rend silenceforcing out dispel often lets other teammates eat them alive too, if you have a shiv on your team making them dispel mark is GG
remove parries remove troonvementdeadlock is saved
>troonvemen and parryschizo are the same personinteresting development
>Infernus can just cover the ENTIRE teamfight area with fire while zoom zooming, doing one billion damage and lifestealing as much>on sub 10 second cooldownNERF THIS FUCKING NIGGER ALREADY YOSHI YOU FUCKING DOG, YOU INSTANTLY NERFED DOORMAN AND CALICO AFTER THEIR BUFFS WHY DO WE HAVE TO SUFFER THIS NIGGER FOR SO LONG THIS SHIT IS LITERALLY THE MOST UNFUN GARBAGE IN THE FUCKING GAME AND ITS ONLY COUNTER IS HAVING ANOTHER CANCER NIGGER (DYNAMO) ON YOUR TEAM OTHERWISE INFERNUS IS LITERALLY UNKILLABLE AND QUITE LITERALLY DOESN'T HAVE TO AIM FOR SHIT AND ALL OF THIS AND WE'RE STILL NOT ACCOUNTING FOR THE REST OF HIS KIT AND THE 3K DMG DOTEITHER TAKE AWAY THE DASH CHARGES OR GUT ITS FUCKING DAMAGE OUTPUT
You bought stalker? I will now afk lane and run boxes
>>565177615Please explain how my logic is flawed. You can look at the deathcam chart yourself, if gun graves (somehow) manages to kill you a majority of the damage will be spirit despite her entire build being ricochet toxic bullets titanic mag and split shot
why is the biggest anti-spirit item, focus lens, a spirit item
>>565179163Uhmm sorry they're in Hawaii they can't do anything for another two weeks :)
THEYDOLOTSOFTHINGS
>>565179195I accept your concession.
>>565178971He's playing burst Silver not werewolf manfighter Silver. If you wanted to manfight you would go berserker + hunter's aura.
>>565149879>doorman>dishonestproof that even eternus players suck at movement and can't be assed to learn to corner boost
>>565179226I accept that you’re seeker
>>565179163Infernus and Abrams aren't allowed to be bad, other heroes get gutted and left to rot but those heroes are never allowed to be anything but OP for more than a week. You WILL get statchecked by the AoEslop dev pet heroes and you WILL like it.
>>565179270They hate him because of kidnapping shit not the ult
>>565178887>>565178991kek
>>565178203I agree that he's right about overall meta, spirit blows because everyone has too much HP and gun blows spirit out of the water. But alot of his takes are so retardedly confusing and upset me to even hear him spout because you can also see his chat suck him off even though they're all seeker 2 niggers or don't even play the game.>>565178806Literally just revert the 1 changes and he's as best as he's gonna get without a rework.>>565178915Because I like seeing multiple opinions and varying takes even if they're retarded.>>565178971All of eido's spirit items are CDR, Melee shit, or actives.Thinking that Silver has no good spirit damage abilities so that means you should ignore purples is a noob trap.
>Doorman has been gutted to such a point he only exists to farm seethe on both teams by being a useless clip farmer in every game he is in>Holliday is quite literally just a shittier version of Bebop>Vindicta is a glass cannon in a game full of regular cannons that is also completely invalidated by Talon who has her ult as a basic ability with lower flight CDGreat game
>>565179218Sex with Rem
>>565179561People are genuinely just playing Doorman wrong, he's just fine right now. He's a bit weak but that's just because everyone has a million HP. The kidnap build has caused irrepairable damage to the character, everyone learned him wrong as a joke because of it. You max bell and spend the entire game invading their jungle, stealing resources and every single game your ult is up you kill someone. Its just a free kill, you just ping the enemy 3 times when an ally is near them and ult and they die. Doorman can overextend forever for free, you need to be a jungle terrorist, never let them feel like they can farm for free
>>565179308>no mention of Sevenheh...
IN HEREI AMKING
>>565179490>Literally just revert the 1 changes and he's as best as he's gonna get without a rework.But I want to play spirit drifter. Lifesteal on bullets is worthless to me. No thanks
bls rate my submissionhttps://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/hero-concept-%E2%80%94-the-druid.129662/
>>565179770Or you could just play a better spirit nuker
>>565179561>those 3 characterstroon
>>565179973I play Lash, Doorman, and Billy though
>>565177328>>565179195Your logic is flawed because your example isn't a good representation of gun meta rn.Bebop doesn't go gun because spirit doesn't need items. Bebop goes gun because bombs fucking suck and gun is super good on him.Lash's best build is gun.Graves gun only sucks because they targeted it and neutered it specifically and graves gun in particular was so extremely good with on hit items that the targeted neuter + toxo bullets killed it while other gun builds are still completely fine.Almost every spirit hero right now is just basically a gun build right now. Even dedicated gun heroes get free spirit damage added onto their gun.We're in a patch where everyone is super tanky so of course the most consistent damage with the most uptime is going to be the strongest, but even ignoring that gun items are just better, spirit items suck, and gun gets way better on hits. Like fucking inhib. Even if Spirit had consistently 20% more damage, gun having on hit effects just make gun better.
there is literally zero reason to play vindicta when talon does what she does but better. if you disagree you are a waifufag
>>565179910>the ability become stronger on place of power??otherwise, not sure why the two movesets are split. neat idea at least but probably annoying to fight
>>565180209stake
>>565179910I like the first concept a lot, the area controlling is sorely needed and transforming the environment itself is kino. I think that they will definitely not have two heroes per side so you might as well just make it completely unique.Now rate minehttps://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/ryan-gosling-hero.126537/
>>565179890Drifter is literally built for spirit. >wants to go online early so he can stack >spirit is the best for his plan because it's the best damage source early-mid>he can transition into a hybrid m1gger with mercurial + toxic lategame
>>565180129>Like fucking inhibcan spirit characters not buy it? wtf
>>565176862Because in my matches 80% of the people just do magic dmg and the only real bullet dmg i have to be warry about is the hypercarry that in emergency situations is focuseable and stunable.If there was more gunbuild players people would buy more bullet resistence, but it sucks to play gunbuilds because they are less flexible in spamming green. And you need green
>10k souls up with rejuv and our entire* team is in their base with 2 of them dead>between facesit and knockdown i am shutting down every seven and bebop ult>our paradox is in our fucking jungle complaining that we're throwing >lose at 63 minutes, paradox dead last on teamwhich m1 should i grind out of shitlow until i can actually play the game as a support
>>565180425because if you're buying on gun hit items on spirit chars that also buff gun damage you might as well go full gun because it's just better than the spirit build because gun items are that goodon hit/build up effects are more conistent and better when you also have shit like firerate items
>>565180672Posted from the insane asylum
>>565180384I just get kinetic dash and slowing bullets than a random other 1600 gun and I'm done for gun items. It's true he automatically becomes hybrid via stacks though which is really neat.
>>565180704
>>565179195This has been a problem for over a year. Spiritcels literally cannot function if gun is even slightly viable.
>>565176315Kel'Snippety will never truly leave us, will he...? God bless him
>>565180967(spirit character with a charged ability) is buying headhunter, recharging rush, and siphon bullets?!?!?! FUCKING GUN META
uh oh m1keys getting uppity again
>>565180741>kinetic dash and slowing bullets For me it's Stalker + Cold Front + QSR. I started to like buying QSR over Kinetic Dash even if I'm going gun. More burst for your rend early-mid is good. And you can upgrade it to Merc later.
>>565181220Well yeah I build QSR but I dont like cold front since half the time youre only fishing with mark. I probably should get it but meh. I get stalker AFTER laning since I rarely proc it in lane and it's just a good way to chase afterward
Remove parries already holy shit
>>565181432samefag
>>565180857My other points still stand, gun items are so good that even spirit chars should be building for gun>>565181049and slowing bullets, and weighted shots, and siphon, and titanic mag, and crippling... wait a second this is just a gun build.The fact that the best lash build rn is 50% gun damage on THE spirit damage burst character means something is wrong.Just nerf people's healthbars again. People are too tanky nowadays.
>>565181432ThisM1ggers and spiritrannies cry constantly despite never having experienced a tenth of the suffering meleeGODS do every game
>>565181723>and titanic maghahahahahahaha
>>565181302>half the time youre only fishing with markThis is retarded. Spirit Drifter is not a markbot. It plays like a regular Drifter but with better early-mid ganks because of your burst, what are they going to do if your rend deletes 80% of their hp bar.
Kill green items.
deyre mahkd
>finally get to try grey talon again after a million years>game goes to hell>everyone is dying>enemy team has a 50k soul lead at 25 minutes>our abrams says he's the mvp of our dogshit team at the last second like every faggot who doesn't want someone else stealing the last word>he did 13k damagedid they make matchmaking worse or something. did they fuck it up even harder, it's been nothing but shit like this for a couple weeks now. shit I got bumped out of pisslow and back into shitlow
>>565181868You missed btw.
>>565181785>This is retarded.No you. My build is better, you cant out gun a gun carry why would you build all those gun items it's way safer to do my build
>>565181867remove all green from the game, bullshit overinflated healthbars
>>565181867Actual good opinion.
>>565181973>all those gun items
when did they add the unstoppable to redditman tier 5 ult, and why
>>565182183Yes. Wowno attack speed from kinetic dash to apply merc or toxiic and your only defensive is restorative (bullet vest does not count). it's truly horrendously bad I'm sorry.
>>565182421resto lock and fort is genuinely all you need today desu.
>>565182421THIS NIGGA CAN'T SCHMOOVE
>>565182501>learning how to abuse bugged movement mechanics in a closed alphalol
Haze ult should be changed. Why spend all that cortisol aiming m1 when you can let your enemy waste their stamina and press 4 to deal 3k damage
>>565182454why did everyone start buying resto lock recently? did a streamer talk about it?
>>565182591People found out that against certain characters it's a free fortitude's health bonus worth of healing and it's free stamina and +10 spirit res on top of that.I'm sure one of the night shift games where there were 11 resto lockets in one game did something.
>>565180672you are so fucking retarded that if this was bait you actually got me super hard
>>565182591It got buffed to give you stamina. You already know how important stamina is.
>>565149879>no venatori'll sleep soundly
>>56518259110% spirit res on a 1600 item that also restores a decent chunk of health and multiple bars of stamina, it'll probably have the spirit res lowered or removed and maybe the stamina capped, it took a while for everyone to start using it even after the buffs because it was so bad for so long.
>1 sb loss = 50 pushups>1 sb win = 50 situpsif you cant do this you are an incel
>>565183147>sb you're the incel
>>565183219But I did eat breakfast this morning
I love how these retarded nigger devs engineered a meta where magic dispel is somehow not enough to deal with the cancer but also absurdly overpowered
>>565183793Yoshi is one of Valve's finest.
>>565183793I think it's balanced af it just sucks that you have to build it every game cause of the sheer amount of stuff you need to dispel. They clearly dont want to differentiate between strong and weak and non dispellable shit but the game suffers for it.
>>565182575Why the fuck do people pretend that 99% of movement bugs that anons cry out about aren't just purely for roll outs and urn runs. In actual combat just flat out good movement is just using stamina at the right time and constantly making it difficult for your opponent to get a good bead on you. You can have better movement than half of eternus 5+ and not have given a shit about the movement exploits in your entire life.Even if they fix all the movement exploits, you're still going to have shit movement and people with good movement are still going to shit on you.
>>565184259its shitter cope
>>565184259t. bug abuser
Celeste is an Urn bot Holliday is a Jump pad bot (lasso is countered by literally everything LMAO) meanwhile fat fuck Dynamo has the best ult in the game best one in the game and best two in the game
thinking about mina thighs
>>565184464disgusting movement troon
>press f>enemy doesn't melee me >now I'm forced to dash or jump awayUgh I DESERVE a free kill for pressing f, I can't believe I'm forced to use stamina to get away and take 0 damage if my enemy didn't melee the cost and risk of using parry is do high it's not fair...
>>565184845you introduced yourself but you didnt say anything after that why?
>>565184987I accept your concession
>>565185203im not selling popcorn tho
>game puts me on win game lose game tier matchmaking>decides that isn't fun so gives me five hard losses with the biggest retard teammates possible>THEN GIVES ME FIVE GAMES WHERE I HAD TO BE THE BEST LASH AROUND JUST FOR US TO HAVE THE CHANCE OF WINNING (which we ended up doing)fuck you valvealso always get magic carpet on lash
>>565185312meds
>Kelvins talk shit about their teammates>Pockets talk shit about the opposing carry>Mina Has talk shit about everyone>Calicos blame ping
>>565185312why carpet over maj leap?
>>565185312>Waste 2 slots on items instead of just learning how to angle and dashI hate plugging streamers, but watch Eido or SuperTF, they play Lash like he's allergic to prolonged exposure to the ground
>>565185625Carpet lets you hit max skybox height, but also gives you 100% air control and the ability to go both up and down. Also it makes it very possible to get not only low effort urns but potential enemy advantage urns. Oh, they used knockdown? You go upwards ontop a lightning roof and safely 1 in a safe direction or pop out and ult them.>>565185841I do that too, but carpet literally forces the enemy to invest in multiple knockdowns.Im a great Lash.
has to be a joke
Why does this game have the most ass cancer mechanics?>All towers become squishy paper towels as the game progresses >Urn helping enemy team snowball to hell and back>Ratting is super strong cause the map is fuck huge>Hyper carries are oppressive in laneAnd to top it off you have the most contrarian white tranny mutts defending it all.Dumb nigger monkey devs.Tranny white troon community.
>>565186747brown monkey
>>565186747retarded devs
>Press lycan farm>Mo krill charge into disarm into another stun into movespeed reduction>Lycan form gone>Dmg 0>Repeat 9 timesAs much as i like the game so far, they really need to remove atleast half the CC and disable parry.The game seems to have so much fun play mechanic, but 20 times as much disable mechanicsKinda gay, ngl
another retard filtered by mohammed and kareem
>>565186947Buy dispel
How much of a difference does a/d dashing vs w dashing mid-air really make?
>>565186747All of these are good things except for your last point, if you faggots had your way every game would be 80 minutes
>see retard crying about how we have to deal with dynamo being overpowered for 3+ weeks now>it's a mina playerthese people have no self awareness at all, huh?we've been dealing with this bitch for an entire year now.
>>565188128Mina is nowhere as strong as Dynamo and isn't even top 10 in the game at this point>Abrams, Dynamo, Wraith, Infernus, Mirage, Apollo, Ivy, Gunbop, Venator, VyperAll off the top of my head are stronger
>worst hero in the game right nowHow do we buff him?
>>565187759The difference depends on how fast you're moving beforehand, what dashbucket your character is and what specific angle you hit so its pretty hard to put a definitive number on it.
>>565188448that's incredibly autistic and i hate it
>>565188448>dashbucket???
>>565188447He's pretty good he just isn't an actual carry despite people thinking he is so people get the wrong impression and assume he's shit when they run a full orange build. He's more of a pick hero
i started smurfing just to mess around on new characters and i swear there are better players in archon than ascendant.some of these motherfuckers in ascendant have to be stupid enough to buy ranked accounts.
>>565188543autist termheroes are divided into 3 different dash speeds, you'll notice if you play some shit like kelvin because his dash is slow as fuck and his stam takes 8 years to regen
>>565188259>gunbop>venatorlmao
>>565188447I only started playing him recently but he feels pretty fine to meI also play a lot of Silver and there's a lot of similarities between them right now, with Drifter being more pick oriented and having better scaling
>>565188502If you go fast diagonal dash is betterIf you go slow it doesn't matterMight as well try to get used to always diagonal dashing
Everytime I launch Deadlock, I want to shit hardWhat’s up with that?
today i will play deadlock on this fine early morni->3 games with russian teammates in a rowguess i wasn't supposed to play today.
>>565188543For some reason when talking about the 3 dash speeds the devs used the term "bucket" and now its stuck.
>>565188994just wear a diaper
>>565188447>He's not playing spirit DrifterNGMI
>>565184259>getting the urn there 10 seconds faster completely eliminating leads in the early game isnt a big dealfuck off faggot
Everytime I play Kelvin I go vs a Pocket or Victor
>>565132089>getting rid of what makes her unique by gutting everything>>>>guttingdid you read "remove her auto-aiming M1 or add a bonus for aiming" and go into a blind pants-shitting fury? here, let me try that again in reverse order so you don't get triggered>add an 'active' component to her 3, pressing it lets her command her units. 3 passive remains the same>give her some way to generate/maintain more skulls>[followed by a list of exclusive options]>give her skulls an extra 'life' to even out their durability>>>>remove her m1's auto-aim or add a bonus for aimingyou understand how design works, right? you understand how that last one would still be a buff for her, right? you understand that once you introduce the ability to miss something, you can put more power into it, right? do you think she has the lowest gun DPS in the game for no reason?
It's bleak
>>565190545I accept your concession.
>>565189661I am not Rem or Silver player
>>565151132>parrying the firerate slow from juggernautThat sounds like some anime bullshit
>rem skills pillow first in lane*buys egg, queues up cultist sacrifice*time to afk
ASS BLAST
everybody knows about dynamo + lash, but dynamo + billy seems like another crazy good synergy duo, with billys ult dragging people for dynamo to ult
but when I try to rape someone, it's bad...this world is so cruel...
>>565193317why would you need billy? Dynamo sucks people 9000 light years away through 9 walls by default
>>565193317just buy mystic expansion bro
>>565174985>>565174991>>565178001>go 0-5 until minute 20>fuck I'm too brainlet for this hero>get boundless + escalating exposure>end game 20 minutes later 11-6What the fuck
>>565193694
>>565193694It's all about how many people you rapeYou try to rape one while at 0 rapes you're a creepYou've raped hundreds you're a conquerorSame with being a virgin honestly except rape is another tier of virginity
there's really something fucking rotten with the MM. I always have one or two gluesniffer on my side while the other team gets people with a positive KDA every time. DOesn't help each new patch it's stuttering hell
dont mind me, gonna fix the game in 1 post>Dispel Magic removed from the game>Colossus now applies a dispel on use>Slowing Hex movement ability silence removed>The slow and dash speed reduction now increase for every unit you move your character up to 100% slow in each>Duration increased to 5 seconds, cooldown increased to 50 seconds, cost increased to 3200>Disarming Hex cooldown increased to 50 seconds, duration to 5 seconds, no longer reduces bullet resistance>Silence wave duration to 5 seconds, now applies a debuff that does nothing till you cast an ability, after which it silences you for 4 seconds and you take burst spirit damage (scales with spirit power)>Cooldown to 50 seconds>Unstoppable cooldown to 80 seconds>Duration reduced to 5 seconds, now gets an additional 0,5 seconds of unstoppable per debuff cleansed with the active
>>565188696Mina actually falls off neither of those heroes do
>>565195706mina's ult rapes everyone lategame sis, way to out yourself as a seekergod
>>565195212>>Slowing Hex movement ability silence removed>>The slow and dash speed reduction now increase for every unit you move your character up to 100% slow in each>>Duration increased to 5 seconds, cooldown increased to 50 seconds, cost increased to 3200why would you ever use this over mystic slow/slowing bullets?
>>565195952i think 100% reduced movement/dash speed is a bit better than 20% of the items you named
>>565196182>i think a counterspellable 3200 slow is better than 1600 orange that can be applied 24/7 by shooting your gun
>instant queuehere comes the humiliation ritual
>>565192425the midwit's ult
>>565196598>instant queueenemy team is a 6 stack, your lane opponent has your banned character, you have 200 ping because yoshi decided to throw you in another continent's server, your lanemate's first items are egg, trophy collector and tankbuster, he runs under enemy walker 3 minutes into the game and gets 1shot by walker stomp, immediately screams "WHAT ARE YOU DOING (you)" and types "report (you)" in all chat
>>565195212>nerfing disarming hex, one of the worst items in the game>unstoppable to 80>debuff remover removedthe raped
>>565197206>WHAT ARE YOU DOING (you)That's the one thing that gets me, the players who use their death timer to coach others.Just the other day I got some retard flaming me to using time inbetween waves to farm neutrals and break boxes instead of standing under the enemies guardian with him. The same guy who would not stop mindless shooting enemy minions but refusing to shoot any orbs.I'd be fine if they were humble but these types of players always have the most immense egos and endless lists of excuses as to how they ended up going 0/11/0.
Oh boy, first game of the day and I got a random character because all of my picks were taken or banned. Game gave me Apollo on a team of supports vs. Infernus, Geist, Dynamo, Abrams, Warden, and Lash.
>>565186747sorry that you are retarded
Just played Dashfernus. That shit is degenerate and I won't be doing so again.
Here's your laner for today. Enjoy!
knife out
>vindictroon having a melty cause he can't shoot when whole brool is inside ice globemusic to my ears
>>565197705Hate that shit>bebop has literally THREE people on him and is currently in Doormans Diddle Dungeon>think the only thing I can do to TRY and save him is to run in put a jump pad in front of him and jump pad myself out>do this he doesnt take the jump pad and gets fucking gangbanged>WOW DOOD NO ONE HELPED ME DOOD ACK ACK ACK ACK ACK
>>565200168Oops wrong screenshot that was some retarded erp session
I wish Deadlock had a daynight cycle.I don't know if it needs to do much, it'd just look neat. Even if it just moved from day > evening > night as the match progressed
>>565199560she's cute!
>you buy extra regen? bro just don't get shot in lane ur so badwhat causes such deranged opinions
>>565200327>cyrillic namePattern recognition.
>>565200774green items means youre LOOSING dps retard
>lane partner kills heal creep the second first wave comes >both of us were full health >heal wastedShould I rush cultists sac and jungle until I have 50k souls?
>>56519956080% of the time my paradox team mates are absolute shitters. But every once in a while you'll get an ultra competent dox player from Eternus (i'm ascendent) and they'll absolutely crush. Don't know why the line is so thin between good and bad paradox players.>>565200449Old 4 lane map was in bright daylight and felt much more open and fun. They should definitely add daytime back.
>>565201028you should kill yourself for crying over something so meaningless and unimpactful
>>565200861\green items in laning phase means i don't want to interact with you, nigger. hope you enjoy clicking on me but not getting any REAL value out of it :)
>>565201106>They should definitely add daytime back.it would also be interesting if the time of day / weather changed based on how far the ritual has progressed.IE, day at the start, becomes evening when some objectives are down, night when shrines are down, starts storming when the first tier of patron is destroyed. Something like that.
i was playing rem for the 2nd time the other day and my lane partner told me to put my helpers on the healer creepshad no idea this was a viable strat, shit's kind of busted
>>565201512boosh
Anons, anons, how do I play Sinclair?He looks so cool, I also hate my ex wife.
>>565201493Helpermaxxing is the correct way to play rem
>>565200861there are only 2 items in the game that lower your dps and they are both purple
>>565201728Know how to use most ults in the game.Know how to itemise for most ults in the game.Inspect the enemy team, decide which ults are powerful and which you can ignore. Itemise for the ones that are powerful.You probably want a tool for acquiring ults, such as veil walker, majestic leap can help picking out the one you want etc.Realise he's not rubrick and sucks. Learning complete.
>>565201728ignore his 1 entirely, build gun and play around 2 and 3your 3 with echo shard and vortex web is the most broken ability in the game
>>565201493>viableyou're unironically griefing by not doing it. also don't put helpers on minions until they're low health since it full heals them. also heal them with your 2 when they're about to die.
>>565201493only works until you get to the rank where people buy monster rounds against rem.
>>565202226If you buy monster rounds you are LITERALLY THROWING THE GAMEit does not INCREASE YOUR DEEPS you are LOSSING DPS against the ENEMY LANERSstop shooting the troopers that doesn't matter YOU HAVE TO BROOOOL
>>565202212you ruined the game with your shitty builds lightbringer
>>565202226>>565202393Monster rounds? Hmmmm, Sorry I uhhhh... JUST don't want to!Ha ha! How about that?! I just don't want to!Monster rounds? Ha ha ha, dun wanna!
I'm on a 7 loss streak how many more until I get teams that actually play the game
>people are finding out about vyperNOOOOOOO MY MAIN WILL BE USED BY METASLOPPERS NIGGERS NOW FUCK FUCK FUCK
>>565202656You are the 0/15/4 agent sent to ruin my games aren't you
>>565202656You will sometimes just get shit like this, had a solid 60+winrate for 300ish games and then out of nowhere two back to back 5 loss streaks.The matchmaking is retarded
Are we gonna get any comics/ a new vn when the games fully out?
>>565202830Kill marry fuck
Everyone talks about OP heroes, but who would you guys say is actually fair or balanced to fight against?For me its >Billy>Vindicta>Victor>Calico>Holiday
>>565202830are we supposed to roll for them or are these k/d
>>565153286I remember someone stating that split-pushing is bad, and pushing one objective with your entire team is always a good idea, 'cause you can melt objectives that waybut shit like this always ends up happening, where the enemy team takes the opportunity to go after your guardians or walkerssometimes deathballing is the terrible play, because there is no one perfect strategy to follow in this game; the strategy is ever-changing depending on the scenario you're in
>>565202656play melee paige for some free wins
>>565203324man this website really died when moot left
>>565203306>BillyHe's fun>VindictaKnockdown victim>VictorHe's irrelevant until the 25 minute mark, so idk about that>CalicoBalanced, but I still find her a little unfun to go against>HolidayHoliday is fun to play against, but she's undertuned
>>565203306honestly outside of>dynamo>infernus>kelvin>mirageI find all heros fair to fightthe rest of them either fall off so hard late game / need to farm so long that I feel like its something I couldve countered had I not a skill issue when i lose
>>565203532>posted on /vg/
>>565189871>completely loses the pointlol
>>565203416What is important is not always deathballing. It's the team having some kind of plan, even if it's not great and following it.As long as the team is all on the same page things go better. When you're not on the same page you get 1 person running the urn, 2 people farming for no reason in the jungle ignoring lanes and creating 0 map pressure and 3 people trying to push a walker but stuck in an endless seige thinking 'surely my team mates will do something with this opportunity there are 4 enemy players here against the 3 of us'.
>>565202789no, I'm the one getting 4-5 of these israeli agents in my team
>>565203630>He's irrelevant until the 25 minute marPeople say that but even in the late game he just does nothingMind you I'm in the elo where people actually buy antiheal, but he just dies pathetically.The gun tempo shit is funny but you can't carry with that playstyle and you may as well just play haze or something.
>>565203532It looks like K/D without a 0 = pick anyor dubs = pick any
Spirit heros are so overpowered right now that they don’t even need to buy spirit items. They just buy gun because spirit damage is so overtuned in this game. It’s also why spirit res is basically core on every hero. You spiritcels need to remember that the next time you think of stepping to m1chads
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>>565204176This
>>565203747>What is important is not always deathballing. It's the team having some kind of plan, even if it's not great and following it.This is why it's so hard for me to get out of shitlow. Are my plans or plays perfect? No, they're not even amazing half the time. But at least I'm trying to push lanes when needed. Sometimes it feels like I'm pushing a lane by myself because my teammate is playing like it's his first game ever. Other times I try to communicate, and my team either outright ignores me or takes three business days to process what I just said. Shitlow sucks; whenever I get a full-mic team, I'm crying tears of joy.
>dicta bebop laneyeah its box time, oh you expected me to interact with you while I cant do anything? thats funny
>>565204176>Spirit heros are so overpowered right nowSinclair players punching the air right nowTheir character truly has the Spirit Damage of a grain of sand
>>565204498Had a game where we were up on players, had most of the lanes pushed, base guardians were down in green, we were all on green apart from one person pushing blue up and about to reach the enemy base. Behind on souls but the 2 dead on enemy team were hitler's strongest warriors.Could have continued our push and taken shrines, maybe just one and fall back to rejuv with a few more picks.Whole team is committed, one retard wraith decides they want to run urn. Ignores pings, ignores chat messages. We can't manage to push into the base and get the kills fast enough 5v4 before the 2 dead on the enemy team respawn. Die trying to leave, get rolled up.Pulling back, taking lane and jungle farm + urn to recover soul difference might have worked. Taking rejuv while enemy had dead and hoping to win the 6v6+3 might have worked. Taking base might have worked. But we needed to all do it together and not wander off into the middle of fucking nowhere.
Learned just now that you can use the arrow keys to maneuver the camera
>>565204176Initiatebro...
>>565204996>Whole team is committed, one retard wraith decides they want to run urnI hate when carries mindlessly minmax "mah soul advantage" in the middle of a deathball. Your team prob would've won if one of the supports or utilities ran urn instead, or if the team pushed back and just decided to do rejuv. Sorry bout that man
>>565205579shit happens sometimesMost wraith players are blithering retards that mindlessly feed for at least 15 minutes. Then just gotta hope we get to the point their broken character carries them to being useful.
>>565203306for me>billyno stun, has to risk a lot when he engages, ult is strong but very telegraphed, parry mindgames are fun, not as freely tanky as other frontlines>sevensimple, honest, no bullshit pure dps hero, stun is telegraphed as fuck, ult has many counters, probably the least cancerous hypercarry>lashvery predictable and honest, you have to outplay him and even when he gets you it's not that badevery other hero has at least 1 thing that at least mildly pisses me off
>>565149879>top two bans you just buy dispel and/or counterspell and counter their entire characterssrsly tho why do people care about doorman? kidnapping isn't even good anymore. as an apollo player I get banning him though shit is straight cancer and apollo should basically never die if you play correctly
>>565205880Good Lash players in this game are scary in a good way. I'm not dreading an encounter with a good Lash because of his bullshit abilities or whatever, I'm dreading him because they're utterly fucking fearless for some reason, but he still won't mindlessly rush in without a plan. They're hyper-aggressive in a ruthless, methodical way. I remember watching a Mina get chased by a Lash for 3 minutes straight. She even ult'd on him and still couldn't kill the fucker or outmaneuver him. Then she died, and the Lash didn't even come out of the engagement on low health. Scary as hell.
>>565205880Lash is fair but he has disgusting combos into other ults that makes you (or at least me) seething to play against.Like lash ult into Black hole or Chain gang.Compared to Dynamo ult its a lot more skill based so I won't give him shit for it.
>>565206191There are genuine eternus players that post here that don't know you can dispel the cart.
>>565206191>and apollo should basically never die if you play correctlydo you just spam parry, or is there some other chinkese strategy I don't know about. I suck at apollo
>>565203795I miss when Victor was good
>>565149879I ban heroes I don't want to have stuck on my team because they'll just throw the game.
Spirit Snatch is literally only good on spirit Abrams, since he can guarantee the full effect of a heavyEvery single other instance you only get the 70% effectiveness, while you paid 3200 for the 100% effectiveness making this the worst item in the game
*buys dispel magic and locket*Damn im just like the pros fr fr
>>565206191>top two bans you just buy dispel and/or counterspell and counter their entire characterseternus players have no life, so they easily get annoyed by things. Apollo, Silver, and Doorman are those things.The devs already nerfed Silver and Doorman into the dirt; it's only a matter of time before Apollo gets the same treatment, meanwhile Abrams will only get 1 nerf every 6 months or so.
>>565206682Billy with max bashdown investment rush
>spectate teammate>they're trying to escape>out of stamina>20 stacks on locketi hate metachasers
>>565206278i'm not gonna blame lash for dynamo being aidsyou can just buy counterspell, warp stone or stamina mastery (all good items on their own) and you won't get caught unless he really outplays you, which goes back to him being a fair fight
>>565206828>billy buying snatch and Tpulsei buy egg and afk
>>565207047Has to be my favorite greens to run. >Get caught by 3 of the enemy team by overextending/not looking at mini-map>Burn all my stam + get hit by all the spells>Dispel + locket active>Live to fight another day
>>565206320I've played some doorman, not eternus mind you, but building portals rather than bells (as you do when kidnap building) to have someone dispel your cart when you finally get a good kidnap setup feels TERRIBLE. I think it's a fair change ofc, but that happening a single time made me never want to try kidnap ever again.>>565206424The 2 parry I either do right away or last while escaping. Typically last because people expect it first. But half decent movement tech + 3 3's + and 1 to mixup your momentum and it's so insane. It's important to not blow your cd's on nonsense damage if you have any feeling you're gonna get jumped while pushed up.Counterspell to stop from getting tied up by CC is generally a must. Also warp stone is surprisingly good despite already having a lot of movement.Is it too basic a tip to suggest binding 3 to something else like RMB? But yeah definitely do that.A lot of this I didn't really understand until I fought a few good apollos and I was like "ah I see this is fucking AIDS to try and kill this dude"
Game needs aghanims so now dota is the same universe as Half Life and portal
>>565207083>he doesn't knows the secret paraguayan echo shard tp snatch spirit billy build
>>565207083Rush cRUSHing fists and max bashdown for F R E E stuns and infinite damage
Damn, Paige got that gorilla grip.
>>565207929Let's see what this BOOK can do.
>>565149879Feels good to be an honest Wightman.
>>565207347I just dunno what doorman is meant to do right now and his high winrate weirds me out.Every doorman in my lobbies sucks ass and has to be carried to victory while they do 9k player damage, and go like 1/9/2.Bells don't do that much damage, and are more awkward to land than other spirit nukes. Once you get the T3 upgrade you can stack a couple of them with a large radius on top of eachother which does something.Door range is abysmal, the shield is a shitpost. Range only gets good when you.... Get to T3. Does allow easy escapes for you though. Should be impossible to die once you have cheat death. Unless Yamato grapples you and the game decides its OK for her to fly halfway across the map after you closed a door in her face.Cart can kidnap, good at getting people away from you. Long cooldown hurts it, and no stun until... T3.Ult, only ability where it doesn't feel useless until T3 cause the T3 does nothing when you leave pisslow and everyone can escape. Good at garunteeing a kill, or escape. Thas about it.And then he has a mediocre gun.
>some youtuber made a video about my main sinclair>now it's almost impossible to get a game as himthanks
>>565208150>high winratenot low winrate*
>>565208150His job is to move people around, that's it.>Someone being 2v1 ganked near himHe runs to the fight, uses his ult to remove someone and help kill the other 2v1.>Someone trying to run awaySpam bells at them to slow them down, use cart to push them back towards your team or open a pair of doors to allow your team to catch up to them.He only needs item range and speed to do all this so he's free to invest in items like knockdown, focus lens or cursed relic.
>>565207083shitlowGOD
Finally i will get to find out whether this shitty troonslop is worth playing.this shit is gonna be another Artifact probably.
oh wow another game lost because the enemy got dynamo and we didnt which means they win every urn every mid boss fight wow dude who would've thought?
>>565208692He's fun in a stack, I cannot stand playing him in soloqueue.
I'm never leaving shitlow, can't fucking win a game. Four losses in a row because my lane partner is a feeder who constantly runs in and stands under guardian and then blames me for not 1v2ing them. My last game I had a dashfernus who went 0-19 and fed their carries so hard that I was getting instakilled if I so much as left spawn. Went from Alch 6 to Alch 2 in four games.
>>565209178>Caring about rank in a closed alphaJust focus on improving buddyYou can always do better
>>565209178I'm gonna lose a 9th game in a row, get used to it bro, if the game wants to give you a forced loss streak it will and you can't do anything about it
>can never ult as billy with dynamo present because if I do i'll throw and mess my team over Dynamo is going to kill this game im not even kidding
>>565208705cool blog don't keep us updated
>>565209403Max ultGet solo ulted by dynamo Just walk away lmao
>>565203306Seven, since all of his abilities are straightforward and well-telegraphed, he's actually fun to play and fight unlike most of the cast.Venator is also a good example of this.Characters like Mina and Celeste are genuinely bad additions to the game since they rely on janky systems like source's retarded physics and overpowered mechanics like disjoints.
This game right now is literally "whoever gets Dynamo on their team auto wins" and these devs have left it like this for an entire month
>>565209816No it's actually whichever teams gets Infernus auto wins.
>>565206970it's called deadcock for a reason
>>565209982except when i get infernus on my team then he goes 4/19
Actually it's whichever team has atleast 1 non-goycattle who doesn't follow a L>R build and buys curse for dynamo and slowing hex for infernus, wins
>>565210089I got an Infernus who did a melee build one game. I don't even know how you can begin to think that melee infernus is viable.>>565210124>using slowing hex on niggerman>He's already starting up flame dash by the time the slowing hex projectile leaves your hand
>>565210124Literally, LITERALLY the only way to stop a dashing Infernus is a stun or Silver's dash. That's why Silver is S-tier right now.
>>565210340good thing you can buy a stun for 3200 souls
>>565210124slowing hex does fuck all to infernushe will do more damage to you and heal while damaging you so he will survive the duration and just fuck off, or straight up kill you
>>565210124I'm pretty sure cursed relic also stops his dash, no?Or does it not count as a channel?
>>565210780He's already at his base by the time the anvil drops
>>565210340>the silver upplayers are dashfernus niggersMakes sense
>win lane like 6/2/2>lose gameevery day I wanna kill these worthless nigger team matesI hope they get bone cancer
>>565210887it does but you dont need to spend 6400 to stop his dash, slowing hex or knockdown is good enough
>win a few, lose more>drop from Phantom 2 to Phantom 1>stop playing>next day>somehow Phantom 2 again>win a few, lose more>drop from Phantom 2 to Phantom 1>stop playing>next day>somehow Phantom 2 againam I losing my mind? am I in a time loop?
Surprising that people aren't complaining more about Kelvin. Literally the most no skill cancer hero around right now, no soul investment needed no skill needed just point the beam. With Mirage and Infernus at least they need items and Dynamo needs 1/4 of a singular brain cell to play.
>>565211213It's because even if he is overpowered, he's incredibly boring to play. Nobody plays him even if he is OP, so he'll probably get even more buffs.
>use kelvin's own ult against him>he ults and it removes MY barrierwow oops cant have Kelvin be a little bad no siree!
and now I'm muted againI hate this nigger game, for realhow can I win lane, with having 6 kills and 2 deathsand lose the game because retards throwwe had 4 people come my lane before minute 15. LIke how am I suppose NOT get angry? The worst part is, everyone was blaming me for pointing this out. The expected 'it's just a heckin' game!!'' Yeah retards, I wanna have fun, not get fucked over by 3rd world faggots. Destroyed some tranny Mina in lane, then we lost. I was too angry to play in the mid and late game.If I had a djinni wish I'd want cancer for those players in that game. I swear to God. If you are out there, please punish them. Take my life in return, idc. I just want them to die horrible, painful way.
>>565211074He literally has slow resistance when dashing.
what do you do in lane against lash when he's permanently fucking perched on that stupid fucking crane in lane
>>565211032lane phase dont matter
>>565211586you don't matter faggotI hope you die too
>>565211397(you)
>>565211669kys
>>565211397>and now I'm muted againI hate this nigger game, for realhow can I win lane, with having 6 kills and 2 deathsand lose the game because retards throwwe had 4 people come my lane before minute 15. LIke how am I suppose NOT get angry? The worst part is, everyone was blaming me for pointing this out.The expected 'it's just a heckin' game!!'' Yeah retards, I wanna have fun, not get fucked over by 3rd world faggots.Destroyed some tranny Mina in lane, then we lost. I was too angry to play in the mid and late game.If I had a djinni wish I'd want cancer for those players in that game. I swear to God. If you are out there, please punish them. Take my life in return, idc. I just want them to die horrible, painful way.
>>565211385Apparently if Sinclair steals Kelvin's ult after Kelvin has ulted, you steal... the ability that removes the dome. So it just does nothing.Sinclair SHOULD be the counter to these ultra cancer ults like Kelvin, but the devs don't want to touch him because he doesn't attract coomers like Mina, Celeste, Paige, and Silver.
>>565211475you use it before he dashes initiatebroand if he already started, then use knockdown and after that, your slowing hex
>>565211859they will give savannah a sexo model
>>565211397I don't think deadlock is for you
>>565210340just clear his jungle bro
>>565211853It's your own fault. Clearly you don't even like playing this game, let alone be any good at it.
>>565209394It's such bullshit though, I go 7-0 as Geist on lane, they have a 0-12 Drifter who is a non-entity until our Graves runs down mid lane holding M1 and dies to him 11 fucking times before quitting because IM NEW IM LEARNING.
>>565211895>needing to buy slowing hex and knockdown to counter one single ability on the most broken character in the game>he has 4 charges of it and by the time the hex and knockdown wear off (which he will probably just use dispel magic on) he can just dash away anyway
who is the pos 4 Tiny of deadlock? you just roam around and gank while no one ever blames you for a loss
>>565207347ty dearly for the info on Apollo brotherI will try to use this to great effect
Why is Apollo allowed to have everything at once without any investment or skill? He’s just such brain-dead character
>>565212595probably Wraith
>>565212595Wraith.
>>565212780almost every character in the game is brain dead
>>565212959except for Sinclair babyyyyyyywe stay honest
>>565212781>>565212931>names a pos 1 hypercarry
>reinstall after months of not playing>first game against bebop>uninstalltrue story
>>565212595calico
>my team: viscous, yamato, paige, ivy, mirage, haze>their team: bebop, venator, dynamo, infernus, rem, vyperThey had a 40k lead at 15 minutes. This shit is legitimately rigged
>>565213224see you tomorrow
How is Billy these days?I need a 3rd for Silver/Warden.
>>565213324>viscous, yamato, paige, ivy, hazevs>bebop, dynamo, infernus, vyper4 OP characters beat 5 sort of good ones unfortunately
>>565213367One of the most well-designed heroes in the gamehe feels balanced without feeling weak, but do know that as Billy that you're more sensitive to matchups than most other characters in the game
>>565213428Venator is the best carry in the game right now. They must be in a group. That or valve’s matchmaking is just that blatantly rigged
>>565212959Its a moba, what matters is your build and changes to it you make during the game, pressing buttons on time is situational and secondary.Thats why i was originally very skeptical of all "lets make a moba action game"
one parry and billy gets rapedone whiffed parry and billy rapes youtrue balance if i do say so myself
>>565213712>They must be in a groupconsidering they're playing all of the OP characters, probablyI REALLY hope deadlock implements a system where solo-q players are put only against other solo-q players
>>565213367Secretly S tier as long as you embrace melee and reject gun
>>565213367he's good but hard as fuck to play
>Bebop's in-game voice line (Killed Billy) - "It was like the budget version of Lash!"kek
>kelvin looks at me with a beam before 7 minutes>90% hp goneyawn this game is so bad right now honestly its so garbage
>>565214398did you ban kelvin...?
>>565214487im actually amused if you think bans work
>>565211298He's not *that* boring, but soloQ is aids because if your not high enough mmr people will literally not understand how powerful you are and just not play around the dome so it becomes useless for any teamplay until it's so big you can force them to be in it with you for a pick.
>>565214553fair enough
buff Viscous puddle punchIt was fun when it could actually kill people, now I'm only ever using it for mobility or CC.
five games five games or four and every single time the game gives Dynamo to the enemy team and not mine the game has the balls to derank me when they get Kelvin and Dynamo on the same team
freehzing dem!!! :D*does 1000 damage at 5 minutes with 0 spirit items*
>>565214961Sorry chuddy only Dynamo and M1 gunners that can do everything lane phase mid game and late game are allowed to be good
IN HEREI AM KING
>>565215074dont forget he can heal too and has insane mobility noticing a pattern with this game why is it that the strongest characters get everything Dynamo gets healing mobility escape fucking slowdown an amazing ult the works Kelvin gets massive damage healing great mobility like what is up with that?
>>565215074>it's ok when m1 heroes do it
They need to return disarm for Kelvin's beam.
>>565215269>>565215324meanwhile Sinclair and Holliday gotta work a 9-5 in order to be useful to their team before the 20 minute mark
>>565215324m1 gods have to buy at least 3 gun items to deal damage in lane phase, nigfin buy 3 green items and still does 1000 dps with his basedbeam
>>565215489Graves was allowed to be decent for a single patch before everyone chimped out about it never EVER forget people demanded Graves to be nerfed on release because they had no idea you could punch or shoot the skulls and so she was nerfed this community has 4 iq
Arctic Beam used to almost lock you in place btw these devs are on actual drugs
>>565215802They call those amphetamines
>>565211895Are you saying his slow resistance on dash doesn't work if it's applied before he dashes?
Mirage didnt get nerfed why did everyone suddenly stop playing him?
Fuck you all. We nearly lost this one just because people don't seem to be able to farm. We were winning all of the early game. We destroyed Wraith in lane - had 6/0/2, then in mid and late she bounced back by just farming. Last game I had the opposite, our Wraith would not farm, and ended up having 7k less than others. How is this possible? IDK, Deadcock is too stressful for me now. When I had my 2 weeks vacation I would not mind losing to stupid shit like this but now that I'm back to work it just destroys me when I perform decent early game, and then get fucked over my some 3rd worlders on the team for no reason.I just wanna have fun.
>>565216090infernus is stronger than mirage, mirage actually takes some game knowledge to get strong while infernus mashes 2 to do everything in the game at any stage
Sex with Gorth
>>565216445con or non con
>>565216445thanks for the offer but I'll pass on that
>>565213367He's fun to play but in a bad spot since they nerfed every single melee item into borderline unusable dogshit, parries are still way too punishing and he requires good teammates to take advantage of his pressure and ult.
>>565215652Graves deserved to be nerfed because she takes zero skill to play.
>>565216090unskilled shitters will gravitate to the most overpowered and braindead of heroesthey're basically a litmus test for honesty/dishonesty
>>565217259>t,Mina trannyor>t.Silve-wait, they look like this...?!
>>565216090because Dynamo got a recent change that hard counters Mirage's kitScarabs? Marks? Dynamo's 2 can just fuckin dispel ALL of your abilities, debuffs, EE, spirit burn, no matter what it isand the ability on top of that also makes him and his entire team invulnerable for a couple of seconds
>rem buys boundless spirit, echo shards tag along and never uses it on the frontlinersawesome. kill this fucking rat and his players I hate him
>>565216257>not only spirit Geist but spirit Graves too
I need a new low cortisol hero to learn so I won't care about the game's outcomeAny recommendations?>>565217639yeah weapon graves is gay. Jumping someone with two instantly spawned groups of skulls, buffed by heroic aura is kino
>>565180209Vin is conceptually bad, she's a fragile, slow character that has to engage with a lot of fights and play a snipe minigame to collect a lot of stacks so...she can be a weak carry by 30 minutes since she has virtually no ult by then and only really contributes to a team fight if no one is looking at her (and let's not even talk about phantom strike).There is a reason pros have only been using her a stake bot, even then it isn't that successful.
>>565180209Stake and crow are crazy good but otherwise you're right, vindicta is worse than GT unless the player's cheating.pic related
I wonder how many times I feel extra strong or an enemy feels extra strong is simply because they got lucky with buffs RNG getting a bunch of sinners or some shit, accumulating a ton of random stats from farm is kind of weird once you actually think about it
>>565215324*It's ok when characters that do nothing but deal damage do it, not the best healer in the game with obnoxious mobility that voids the typical counters to flyers and the most bullshit uninteractable ult in the game.
>>565217859paige
NERF EVERY SINGLE HERO IN THE GAME THEY ARE ALL DISHONEST TRASH
>>565218264thanks but I ain't a sissyonly duo trannies and (sometimes) women play her
>>565218358you play graves
>>565218441so? Graves is played by manly men
>>565218321yep, that's icecuck balancing alright. dota is fun to play but all the heroes are cancer.
who wins here
someone explain something for me,i made an alt account to play with friends, im trying to tank my rank on purpose. the easiest way to soft throw is to go rem and take all your teams jungle inc sinner right and then go die on the enemy to drop your bag you got. i got like a 30% winrate doing this as well as leaving every single time someone disconnects where its like "you can leave without penalty". BUT, i'm STILL CLIMBING, ive gone from alchemist to ritualist 3 with a 30% ish winrate I dont fucking get it
>>565218252>m1 anon finally stares into the abyss and it stares backthis was a long time coming
>>565218321>mo n krilla worse version of dynamo; even his combo ult doesn't last long as dynamo's ult>paradoxshe has like one threatening ability. that's it.>silvershe gets giganuked in higher mmr games>remwhat the fuck do rem players do nowadays besides become pillowbots and ultbots that indirectly sabotage their own team and feed the enemy?>holiday>sinclair lol
>>565218321Yep, that's correct and that's me.
>>565218727The team with Infernus, who already has the most souls (if not by much)
>>565218727>mo and shit>shit talon>shitclair>shit>shita>shitatoright
yoooo what if I start maining Sinclair?
>>565218738You're probably losing so much that you activated the game's anti-losing system in order to keep you investedit works like this>you lose a lot, the game will eventually throw you a bone at some point; even if it's just one>you win a lot, the game will occasionally rape you to keep you in your place, and not become too content with being goodand since you're on a gigantic losing streak, going for the worst plays with the worst stats, the game may be trying to compensate by trying to make you win as much as possible
>>565218858>what the fuck do rem players do nowadays besides become pillowbots and ultbots that indirectly sabotage their own team and feed the enemy?they go full orange and try to be hypercarries and 9 times out of 10 end up having the lowest player damage of everyone in the lobby
>>565218921you've read my mind (>>565218980) niggaIt's a sign I gotta give them a shot
>>565218321The game was unironically more fun before the new heroes powercrept it to hell and back.
>>565218321yuop, revert to early march before they decided to fuck the game by """""updating"""""" old heroes
DOGSHIT GAME DUMB FILTHY TROON SLOP THATS GONNA CRASH AND BURN NOBODY WANTS TO PLAY THIS CONCORD DOGSHIT LMAO, IT'D BE GOOD IF ALL THE CHARACTERS WERENT FUCKING TROON NIGGER DYKES WHAT A SHAME.
what if venator but sharpshooter
>>565219393when we're inside we use our inside voices, okay sweetie?
>>565219259yeah, but the real problem is how they compensated for this by buffing the hell out of older heroes>hey, we avoided power creep! said naive icefrog. But now almost all of the OG heroes are hitler's most formidable agents
>>565219319This, the game was pretty much perfect before that point It was completely unnecessary and it caused the game to start bleeding players when before it had a steady 100k active players
gonna give Sin a trycannot wait to go 0/10 before minute 10>>565219393based
>>565219132see>>565202212
>>565217859>muscular ginnisfag>>565218358paige is played by chads with bwc like me btw
>>565219663Thanks sounds cool but I'll try the first game by playing poke 1. More of my playstyle
>>565219393>DOGSHIT GAME DUMB FILTHY TROON SLOP THATS GONNA CRASH AND BURN NOBODY WANTS TO PLAY THIS CONCORD DOGSHIT LMAO, IT'D BE GOOD IF ALL THE CHARACTERS WERENT FUCKING TROON NIGGER DYKES WHAT A SHAME.
>>565219508There are two sides to this coin of shit:1. Facing against these characters is just pure aids tilting experience.2. Alternative strategy for characters were just pushed out of viability, because the gap between "optimal and suboptimal" became much larger.Naturally both are shit just as the coin is made of it.
>>565219737oops meant to tag >>565219620>>565219663incorrect, you are a pink-wearing slutI know it
>>565219663>I'm a fag... That's good!>I'll never be a hetero and that's not gay!>There's nothing I'd rather be... Than a faggot.
>>565179918Most spirit nukers suck right now. And Doorman isn't a normal spirit nuker, he's basically spirit mo & krill. The point isn't dealing damage, its invading the enemy jungle, stealing resources and generally opening space by being constantly annoying, while securing kills with your ult
>Haze nerfed instantly the moment metaslaves find out about her>Dynamo and Infernus nerfs nowhere to be found
>>565219947>open spaceI hear this phrase all of the time, but I never understand what exactly it means. Open space by like... Distracting the enemy team or something?
>>565220026>instantlyshe was being abused for a month before the jeet fuck did a single thing to her
>>565220026Haze has been consistently one of the best characters in the game for the better part of 2 years now, she can stay out of limelight for a bit.
>>565220219Meanwhile, Seven over here is in the same boat, but he gets exempt from nerfs because Yoshi hates women>>565220026Yoshi hates women, loves men. What further about Yoshi's fag interests has already not been said?
>>565168774it'd be funny as fuck if valve just got a bunch of different guest voice actors to do urn lines and it picks one at random every time it spawns
>>565220026People have complained about Haze since 2024 at a minimum
>>565219508The game's balance is in a truly atrocious spot. It doesn't help that they are gigabuffing characters that really didn't need it, like Shiv and Calico, while leaving janky fuckers like Sinclair and Holliday in such bad spots that you are better off building Sinclair as a gun character because his spirit scaling is pathetic compared to someone like Apollo or Celeste.
>>565220110Yes. If you're in their jungle stealing sinners, stealing camps or just generally being annoying by hitting them over and over and/or making them afraid to push past the middle of the map because you're constantly ganking them you're opening space for your team because they are going to have to devote resources to dealing with you. Doorman and M&K are great at doing this because they can easily escape being ganked and have great ganking potential themselves
>>565220026Haze got buffed though, they just made it so you can't be an ultbot shitter with her.
>>565220219LOL
>throw an ice bomb>slow em down>in here I am kink
>>565220026Meanwhile Victor got instantly nerfed
>>565220956>instantlyhe got nerfed like 4 times to finally put to rest
DA DAKHNESS CUMS FO YOOH
>>565217476HOLY FUCK
>>565221065It's to give Victor players the diegetic Victor experience.
>>565221123>I'm feelin'.... peckish
>>565221229>let's see 'em try to kill a de-nerf>they don't have what it ta-nerf>I can't be sto-nerf>... I live ag-NERF
>>565221587And every single one was deserved KEK
