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>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/04-10-2026-update.125825/

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki/
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
>Unofficial Competitive News
https://edl.gg/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked: >>565229868
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Imagine
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Silver objectively needs buffs.
>muh esports
>muh streamer said
How about you play the game and form a real opinion instead of watching other people play it.
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>>565283616
massive werewolf mommy
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Sex with Venator
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>be me
>play sinclair
>get reminded of why this nignog power couple is trash
is there some sort of secret chinese build I'm missing? because I've played a few games with this dude, absolutely zero wins. He just feels so terrible to play as; especially you have absolutely braindead characters like Infernus that can press a button and win the game for their team.
So, what the fuck does Sinclair even do?
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>>565279113
>Nazeebo
just what we need
another perma laner feeding the enemy team, who feels justified because they have 80k souls sitting in the void and get a walker every few times they're murdered
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>>565283621
I just lost the game
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the baxter society has your number
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MINA HA
RISE UP AND TAKE WHAT YOU DESERVE
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>>565283961
>that face
what the fuck
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>>565283621
>>565283806
FFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-
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>>565283961
la ogra
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why is it always waifufags chimping out over their obviously busted perma pro pick hero actually being weak
happened with vindicta
happened with ivy (to a much smaller degree)
happened with mina
happening with silver
and it never overlaps, it's like they just migrate to the new one
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so is graves worth playing or no
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>>565283961
where's doonkay?
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>>565284014
i would have said it's deliberate because vampires are meant to be ugly, but then i saw the paige and geist in the paintings
think the guy just needs to spend some time working on faces
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>>565283709
did I also mention how this nig nog is the opposite of a carry in lane phase?
He is legit so fucking terrible in the early lane phase, no matter how well you play as him
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Holy fuck I just lost my 5 game winstreak thanks to these 2 fucking slavs, both of them just ran it down the whole game suiciding for objectives, the miku kinda tried to help here and there but the fucking pedophile faggot rem never stopped feeding his ass off until the very end. The miku gave a single call with a strong russian accent so I decided to actually look them up on twitch and surprise surprise they were russians. Is this the type of shit yuropeans have to deal with on a daily basis? How do you even muster up the strenght to play knowing you could very easily run into retards like these each time you queue up?
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>>565284135
Literally the worst hero in the game right now, maybe tied with Holliday.

Maybe if you're in archon or below it probably doesn't really matter that much but either way you're gonna get way better results with pretty much any other hero with way less effort which is funny because she has a literal auto aim gun.
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>>565284447
I really want them to revert the change to her grasping hands from 1 ghoul to 2 ghouls and just tweak/nerf the ghouls a bit. I love when she was ability to just spam out ghouls with echo shard. Building her full spirit having a fuckton of skulls and ghouls was so much fun.
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Valve should add a trve evropean vampire to deadlock as a playable hero.
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>>565284707
If you really want it I hope you've said that to them and not just to us
And I hope you made a point to mention how you thought it was fun and thematic, and didn't just talk from numbers
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>>565283709
>>565284275
Sinclair is
>1) An absolute mess that's gonna get reworked at least one more time
>2) An absolutely fucking cancer nigger hero but only if played to its fullest potential and with a good team

As a result you need both a good team and have an unholy amount of hours on him with the right comp and then he's the most cancerous shit ever but most people don't bother so he's in a perpetual limbo of being useless dogshit and SSS hitler tier depending on the pilot, team and situations.
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does low prio effect your rank? i keep losing but my rating isnt moving
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>>565284503
Based
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The game says im oracle 1 but with how 1 sided these games are i REALLY dont feel it like holy shit
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>>565284275
sinclair is a lane rapist though, but laning phase doesn't really matter. it's all about whichever team gets urn the most in the midgame (8min to 30m)
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>>565283806
you sonnuva
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im seeing a lot of sus holidays lately and its driving me insane
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I'm not downplaying when I genuinely say I don't get why silver is s tier. I can see why she MIGHT be A tier, I can hear all the explanations but I never fucking see it in the actual game. I never see it in my games. I never see it in Eternus games. I never see it in Nightshift.
Literally every other fucking S tier character I can SEE, IN GAME, ON THE STATS, ON THE SCOREBOARD.
>Venator having fuck loads of damage and kills
>Mina being on fire for 90% of the game and having great damage and the best escape tool in the game and a nasty ult
>Shiv being tanky, high damage, and amazing mobility
>Dynamo with big fat ults that win games
>Bebop with cross map hooks that lead to picks
>Abrams NOT FUCKING while 1v3ing
>Geist getting good swaps and constantly pumping out damage
>Kelvin with fat Ice domes and constant healing snowballs while skating around and beaming people.
>Apollo's rediculous early game.
All of these people I can see why people might call them OP.
NOT FUCKING SILVER
I see NONE of the reasons why Silver would be first pick every single fucking Wednesday.
I see Bola and her slam fire and that's fucking it.
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Deadgame
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>>565285536
sinclair is a lane rapist alright, my favorite part is how if the enemy makes the mistake of letting him reach a walker it dies in under 5 seconds
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>>565284128
who do you think plays waifu chars
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why is this game so gay
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>>565284979
I made a post on the forum but it didn't any views. Maybe I should make another? Would I get banned for that? Also I just mentioned that it felt very fun like I was playing a minionmancer. Like I don't mind reduced numbers, but I also wouldn't want to be useless so as long as everything scales okay into late-mid/late game I don't care. As I envision minionmancer graves to be more of a late character than early/mid.
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>>565285807
it's a valve game
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>>565285702
Bola disables schmoovement so the trannies hate her and spam that Silver is op.
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>>565285686
SHOOT THEM BEFORE THEY ESCAPE
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>>565286402
This is also the same (and only) reason she's even consistently picked in niggashit, she shuts down troovement
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>>565285702
How did you not include Lash in all this?
Lash is and has always been a top tier hero in pro and all ranks.
Lash is perma top priority.
Having a hero that can stop Lash automatically makes it relevant.


She's good in many other factors but the ability to pin down heroes like Lash and Mina while being a frontline with damage is the main reason.
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>>565286778
No the fuck he was NOT.
Lash was only starting to be seriously treated like a big deal, today now, Silver has been first pick slop since her release. Sure he got some decent matches before but it was spirit builds that had middling performance and completely crutched on good ults later on meanwhile people found out flog/gun is his best build and now he's actually ban worthy.
You're waayyyy overestimating how much pro players hate lash because you don't first pick a counter hero.
They tried that shit with magic man and never again.
Silver is so much fucking potential woman.
>She does good damage
When she doesn't show it
>She has good tank
When she doesn't show it
>He has filthy early game
When she doesn't show it

I've never seen a single silver that made me think "Wow, they won because of her." I've thought that for billy, I've thought that for Abrams, I've thought that for Shiv. The ONLY time I've ever thought "Damn, Silver played a huge part in winning that game." was the first time Kelvin Werewolf fight club was tried out and it stomped, and that's more of a testament to fucking kelvin dome than anything.
Silver is good, I agree. Great even. AMAZING even if you roam right, but fucking first pick almost every single game and everyone going "SHE'S S+ TIER AND DOES ALL THESE THINGS!!!"? I don't fucking see it.
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>>565283408
please buff my character
why do i have to deal with 70% bullshit other characters doesn't have to
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C&C!
>>565285972
Spam it while they're online, and you'll be more likely to get a response.
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>three matches in a row where I have slightly positive k/d and half my teammates can't stop drooling on their keyboards long enough to avoid going 1/10
My rank is literally not representative of my skill level
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What's the current mcginnis build spirit or gun?
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>>565288032
depends on the rest of the comp, her gun has been buffed back up to being viable but her turrets are also still strong if you build for it
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what heroes exude the most aura
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first time I see a victor with this much obj damage
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faggots just pick doorman, spam bells, negates your engage with baggage and runs away and there's nothing you can do about it
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>>565288193
Vic
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>>565288193
seven by a mile
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>>565288331
I'll deal with the hooligan
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>niggfernus in every fucking game
I think I'm done playing until the next patch
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>>565288579
sorry sucka
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>>565288579
>HHAHAHAHAHA
>YOU SEE THAT SHIT?
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>everyone is so constantly dead that barrier might as well be a use on self only item
>even when they're alive none of them are actually pushing
>stuck playing lane janny all game long because no one is defending anything
I am losing my fucking mind. I should have gone gun rem, i haven't tried that yet.
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I just had a player on my team abandon instantly before we even got off the ziplines and it counted as a red safe to leave game. Forced defeat. What the fuck is that shit?
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Back in my day we used Infernus' gun.
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what are the most retarded broken heroes in the game that is not really affected by patches? playing a character i actually like is not getting me anywhere i'm fucking tired
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>>565284128
>character caters to waifufags (low iq(derogatory))
>waifufags play character
>waifufag loses with character
>waifufag learns that character is actually really good
>waifufag is faced with two choices, admit they are shit or cope that the character is actually secretly bad
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>>565288816
>try to use the gun
>burn through extremely small mag without easily procing afterburn
>give up and just begin dashing again
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>>565288820
Seven is going to be the most free win hero for the entire game's life span that will never get nerfed because he is Yoshi's favorite.
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>>565283408
Who knows what paradox is hiding?
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oh man it's been 10 minutes and wraith picked up two kills in lane I guess she's hit her late game power spike and scaled already!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>565289054
noted
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>>565289095
sauce please.
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>>565288820
Infernus, especially dashfernus in its current state. Completely braindead, you get ridiculous value anywhere at any point of the game with the press of a button and most of the cast has a really hard time punishing him. The moments in time during which this Ixian nigga has been considered "mid" or even weak in the game's lifetime are few and far in between so even if he gets gutted he'll be back soon enough to the top of the charts.
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i'm about to relapse into being a pocket main, drifterbros... why is drifter so ass
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>>565289828
i feel you brother
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inhibitor on paige
think about it cuties~<3
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why do dynamo and bebop get to play like actual dogshit all game but still be absolute game changing threats just because they are built like a brick shit house and have amazing ults
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>>565289873
>better burst
>better DOT
>better gun scaling
>better mobility
like bro..........
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>>565288690
HEHEHEHEHEHE
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im gonna fucking kill myself
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Infernus has literally never been bad
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>>565290141
go into those games and count how many times you lost because Dynamo was on the enemy team
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I was gonna try spirit venator but when my lane partner saw me buying spirit items he callled me a nigger and abandoned the game
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>lane partner criticizes me once (1)
>i feed 15 kills and afk
simple as
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>>565288579
extremely high pick rate and winrate on both dynamo and infernus, yes totally balanced
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>>565285807
Cute!
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>>565290264
only 4 but i think they were the game winner every time regardless
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This is what Mina should look like.
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this is what mcginnis should look like
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https://files.catbox.moe/rp0ral.png
this is what Billy should look like.
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>>565289242
jeanne_hamada on twitter
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bebop hook should be 10m at most like pudge why the FUCK is it 50m?
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why does no one complain about seven even though he consistently tops the winrate charts at all ranks
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>>565290472
>Not getting carpet and flying right into their base to feed more
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>>565291292
hes been so annoying for so fucking long it kinda doesnt matter anymore same reason no one complains about MnK anymore despite being absolute cancer
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>Play Doorman (my best hero)
>Get Ascendant lobbies frequently
>Try to play a new hero
>Keep getting oracle lobbies
I mean i get why it works like this and its probably for the best, especially since i'm probably not losing a lot of rank for losing on the characters i'm not good at, but at the same time these oracle matches are so dogshit. There's no coordination, nobody tries to do objectives, its just a bunch of people running around completely randomly. High rank matches are so much more fun
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>>565291292
aura
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>>565289940
I thought about it and it sounds like total dogshit. How about you build a bunch of utility actives and let the carries do their job mmkay.
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>>565291057
Thanks
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>picking up advantage urn
>my RETARD seven just farms a t3 camp so its now a normal urn
>lose out on 8k souls because NIGGER seven wanted +300 souls
great mechanic
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>>565291292
Because he's not unfun to play against. He just feels like a fair hero with clear downsides and methods of counterplay. He can't blink 50 times in a row, isn't indestructible, doesn't have crowd control spam. He's just a well-designed hero.
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>>565291618
>build more (((actives)))
mmmmm nyoo~<3
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>>565291292
He's hands down the most fair carry in the game I never get mad when a Seven carries because he isnt utter bullshit just compare Seven to Dynamo or Infernus and you'll see why Seven doesnt knock you up clear a whole lane slow you remove your bullet resist and do 4000 damage on an ability that has fucking charges I've played Seven once so im not a Seven player or downplayer either he has damage thats it he doesnt have mobility + damage + escape + fucking healing + every fucking thing under the sun
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>>565291292
Because people gave up on him getting any meaningful nerfs
>>565291748
>>565292113
Sevenfag propaganda, eat shit.
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>>565292253
>Sevenfag propaganda,
>you dont agree with me?!
>YOU MUST BE A SEVEN PLAYER AIIEEEEEEEE
take your fucking meds lmao
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>>565292253
Nope played seven once or twice in 2024 and never touched him again
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Seven's meta items are toxic bullets and escalating exposure, both of which are dishonest items. Seven is a dishonest hero.
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if seven is so honest with clear counterplay then he wouldn't have such a high win rate
something isn't adding up
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If you are losing to a Seven in lane/letting him free farm all game and scale to god mode, you are low elo and have no idea of the matchup.
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>>565292729
characters can be good and not retardedly good anon...it doesnt help that EE is such a good item
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>>565292729
He farms fast and no one ganks him or does objectives before he's online in pubs. He sees 0 pro play for a reason.
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Victor wons night shift and yet barely any mentions here...
Do you guys think he will get overbuffed again then nerfed nonstop until the cycle repeats again?
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why is Billy even in the game?
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Reminder that if you're not buying these items, you're throwing
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Its kinda crazy how you can tell how a Rem is going to play from literally the first second he's gonna steal everyone's farm hand deliver bags to the enemy and build Spirit Pillow pro tip if you have a rem on the enemy team a free kill will always happen at 9 minutes because he WILL be by your slot machines always theres never any doubt
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>>565292075
what ever you say, cutie!!! have fun in your cute seeker lobbies!!!!
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>>565292904
In real life there wasn't a magic storm in the 1800s and America never invaded hell
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>>565292973
>ooo counterspell is so broken guys its a t4 item for t3 price
>not even in the top 10
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>holliday has voicelines for every single hero in the game
yeah im thinking holliday's the protagonist
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>>565292904
hes the trendsetter, the very first punk
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>>565292973
wheres trophy collector and golden egg :3
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>>565292973
>tankbuster #4
KEKASAARAROOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>565293038
you saiyan punk rock came from hell?
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>>565293095
I wish billy was better written, his lines are so weak that when the cast calls him out for being "childish, mad at nothing etc" its hard to argue with them
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bros stop fighting i just wanna farm and get items so i can get online
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>>565293273
Thats literally the point anon
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>>565292973
>dlg has been saying nonstop about how it's a m1gger meta and that spirit suck dick
>only gun item on this list is monster rounds
really makes me think
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>>565292989
Vegas made a good point about Rem in his latest tier list, where he talks about how Rem and Ivy are both the same kind of "macro support". They are good at fixing lanes for their team, keeping things pushed in the later stages of the game and stealing enemy resources. So they're both support characters who end up with more gold than usual. The problem is that Ivy buys stats to make thorns deal a bunch of damage, statue stuns forever and deals a million damage, and her tether gives even more stats to the carry. Rem literally just invests all souls into some actives (which ivy can also buy) and his shitty pillow. He just has nothing to do with the gold, and on top of that most Rem players are dogshit and steal shit from their own team. Its no shock to me that he's the lowest win rate hero in the game
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>>565293314
we are starting a brool in mid and will flame you for clearing side lanes instead of joining our BROOOOOLLLLLL
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>>565293165
It's good in the meta right now since everyone has bloated HP.
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>>565292973
>tankbuster
Reminder that 'pros' don't know shit about the game and their opinions are irrelevant.
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>>565293317
the point is that he sucks? great point
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>>565293375
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>>565293351
Tag Along should share your money with your targets desu
>>565293410
Yes anon the point is he sucks thats literally the point many characters point this out for a reason
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>>565293351
>and on top of that most Rem players are dogshit and steal shit from their own team.
Don't forget that they're easily the biggest feeder and enabler of the enemy team by dropping thousands of bags in souls for the enemy, over and over and over. I've seen Rems drop 4k soul bags before
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>>565293478
I accept your concession
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>>565292973
These are purchase rates, not win rates, so with that in mind this list just makes sense. Good greens are bought almost every game by almost every hero. Monster rounds is also just generically good. Rapid Recharge is required for some heroes to function. Cooldown and Expansion are generically good on so many spirit characters that it would be surprising if they weren't there. I'm sure that if this was item winrate we'd be seeing a lot more orange. Tankbuster is the big outlier here and its there simply because right now its kind of needed for spirit burst heroes to have any chance to do anything even if its a shit item. Everyone just has too much HP.
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>>565293407
>>565293165
Whats wrong with Tankbuster? actually curious
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>>565293478
>Yes anon the point is he sucks thats literally the point many characters point this out for a reason
nah. Compare him with Warden, everyone says Warden is this weirdo who was coddled by his parents. But it doesn't matter because his voicelines are still cool, he's still intimidating etc. If he were as poorly written as Billy he would literally go around going WAAAAAH MOMMIEEEE WAAAAAH
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>>565283408
>See best girl
>Click on thread

Simple as.
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>>565293341
to be fair, gun carries need to farm a lot to come online, but theres next to no downtime in nightshift and the games all end in 20 minutes
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>It's good in the meta right now since everyone has bloated HP.
lmaooooo absolute state of this general
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>>565293341
>number 1 item is the counter to 3 top m1gger items
There is definitely no correlation here.
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>>565293625
Sex
With
Paradox
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too much hp, its like im tickling them
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>>565293818
>toxic
>inhibitor
What's the last one? I'd say last one is EE
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>>565293584
For the same price point surge of power will do more damage 90% of the time and for cheaper Mystic vuln will accomplish the same armor piercing while actually builds into a tier 4.
It's just not cost effective.
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you push red every doorman player dies
you push blue every rem player dies
what do you pick
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fuck doorman, trash hero. devs should admit they made a mistake
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>>565294143
I was gonna say silencer but EE is probably higher prio.
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>>565294241
blue
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>>565294241
total rem death
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>>565294406
But EE is not a m1gger item THOUGH. What's the last m1gger item.
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>20 Minutes into game
>3/16/11 Sinclair
>38k souls
Fucking how
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>>565294579
I just had a 0/20/11 Billy. Guy had 20k souls over the course of a 40 minute game (the next lowest person was 40k) and bought rescue beam for some reason
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>>565294241
i'm pushing yellow
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>>565294225
Shit ive been throwing buying tankbuster all this time...thanks anon
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REMOVE PARRIES ALREADY
DISHONEST BULLSHIT MECHANIC
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>>565294521
>EE is not a m1gger item
>core on Infernus, Seven, Mirage, Wraith
Lmao
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>>565295017
I am fine with parries existing but I think they should have a penalty if you blind parry - either a temporary self slow or -1 stamina
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>>565295159
>dashfernus
>m1gger
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>>565293818
>pros are obsessed with silver so bola is present in every game and you are basically guaranteed dead if she has a single teammate with her when she hits you with it
>shiv is a looming threat in every game who is all but guaranteed to have impact and dispel helps stifle his rage generation
>infernus, although a m1gger, is 95% spirit damage and builds flame dash
>but guise... it's all for da migger items... its definitely a gun meta......
north korea would envy this level of propaganda
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>>565295247
Even without dash it gets double value from his auto attack dot.
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nigger nigger nigger holy absolute fucking nigger why is every god damn game literally carried by one or 2 smurfs on the other team??? did i do something wrong Yoshi holy shit watching niggers on my team go 2-10 in lane is the most infuriating thing in this god damn game cna we at least get a surrender option if you arent gonna fix matchmaking JESUS CHRIST
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>>565295247
>>565295319
>infernus is not a m1gger now
Seekers ruining this general.
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>>565295319
How are you getting this much copium with the all the shipping stopped anon?
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what if rem shit and piss himself before tag along so you a horrible stinky rat attached to your body
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Infernus is not a m1gger
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>>565294241
red
anyone that has bumped someone into a walker stomp or fountain can have rocks shoved in their neovagina.
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>>565295159
M1ggers truly are fraudulent.
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always buy carpet on lash
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>>565295159
every one of those characters is a spiritsissy
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honest question why do people hate rem? Ive been playing him and yea sometimes ill sneak sinners but more often then not tag along pushing with the lil rems goes to waste it feels no matter what i build
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>>565292973
>tankbuster #4
As expected from niggas who first pick Silver every game.
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>>565295772
You could have accomplished the same thing by pressing 2 and then shift, for free
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>these ETERNUS 6 (E6) pro players who play in DEADLOCK NIGHT SHIFT don't know SHIT!!!!
>oh my rank? im emissary btw
/dlg/ is so funny
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>>565295873
a lot of my hate for rem boils down to that his voice and personality are fucking annoying. How am I not supposed to take glee in stomping that stupid fucking squeaky voice cutesy wootesy piece of shit?
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>>565296050
>silver is totally op and tankbuster is a good item
sure thing seekerbro
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Say I have Tank Buster on Shiv and my dash hits 3 people, triggering the tank buster. Would it deal the extra and % damage against all of those hit with the single ability click or only the first?
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>>565295873
Most people who play him are retarded and throw the game
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>>565295439
>m1gger
>look inside
>15-25% of his damage comes from m1 and afterburn, 50% of it comes from flame dash
nice m1 character
>>565295454
>dude you think they buy dispel because of shiv??? you're coping!
actual seeker post
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>>565296267
I accept your concession.
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What should I buy on Mina to replace tankbuster going forward, now that I know its a meme item?
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>>565296308
>no argument, just buzzwords
i'm higher rank than you btw
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>>565296362
this thread will never be able to answer this
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I lose whenever I play Rem but win playing anyone else.
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>>565296005
theres no sound on that but she was actively blinking after me (and also had ult and was willing to use it), if I got 1'd or 3'd by mina or even shot enough by ivy or mina I was fucked

carpet gave me 100% air control and height control that allowed me to escape when no other items would
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>>565294225
Do you have a hero example of this and what are you imbuing with surge of power on said hero
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>>565296381
You also have a smaller penis than me.
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>>565295772
@grok is this real
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if you guys know so much and the so called pros are all retarded why dont you sign up for dlns and win the money for free?
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>>565296607
i make more per hour in real life
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>>565296607
SOUNDS GAY
ID RATHER BITCH ABOUT SHIT FOR FREE
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if doing 80% of your damage with abilities makes you a m1gger then i guess every hero in the game is a m1gger
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>>565296712
night shifters on suicide watch
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>>565294742
if you've never played drunklock you ain't living
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>>565295873
Rem on your team means you're probably going to lose, hero is dogshit and the players are dogshit
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>>565296945
I tend to abandon aggressively if I'm drunk
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>>565296607
Pro players are retarded and exist in a vaccum 99% of people will never interact with.
Like vyper is objectively broken bullshit but she's never picked because the (((pros))) don't like playing her.
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>>565296834
look at this m1gger in my game earlier he did a whole 7000 damage with his m1 its disgusting really
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>>565297029
same and that tends to make my games swing wildly toward stomps in either direction
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>>565297205
thats not a m1gger, a m1gger would be playing venator, or mirage right now
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>>565296607
>win the money
They practice for days
They play for hours
They put themselves in high stress, high drama-potential situations
Their prize? $2500.
Wait, actually, it's divided in half, since half goes to the champions of each region. So $1250.
No, wait again actually, there's six people on a team. So $207.
Yeah, I'm thinking they can keep it.
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>kill enemy laner
>my lane partner has 200 health
>they stay in lane instead of going to heal and get killed instantly when the enemy returns
these have to be like 8 year old children i refuse to believe an adult is that retarded
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>Why don't you guys play in the tournament and win?
>Uh I could if I wanted. I can be good at games if I want to!
Whatever you say DSP
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>>565297315
the dlns teams are just teams too, so because there is no contract they tend to just roster change to micro optimize even just more slightly
you are looking at what modern esports is without orgs involved
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>>565296607
I already get paid more to anally violate people
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>>565297417
Using voice chat to literally explain things to the retards will unironically increase your team's average IQ like 12 ranks.

"yo ill try not to push the wave so you dont miss farm go heal and we can kill em again" will literally cause the retards to do it
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>>565297421
Give it 2 years and everyone in these tournies will be considered washed up bums.
For example the shitters in Lowkey are jobbers who can't even beat victor.
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>rem declares he's "high as fuck"
>goes 1/16/3
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>>565297682
my nigga...
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>>565297673
>Give it 2 years and everyone in these tournies will be considered washed up bums.
And yet you're 5 ranks beneath them and would get raped in any high Eternus lobby
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>>565297682
there's really no reason weed should limit your ability to play a fucking video game
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>>565297673
you forget that lowkey dropped a russian player for zerggy
then that russian player played for abrahams and raped lowkey with victor in the draft
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>>565297682
>Lane partner declares he's had six shots before the game
>Dies once
>Declares he's quitting to go watch Bleach
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>>565297813
Actually I'm 2 ranks below them (Phantom 6)
Still shitelo but I'm happy with it.
>>565297869
That too, Empty was basically the only good player on the team before hoot swapped its so strange for them to drop him over the gay eceleb.
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>>565297846
weed and booze affect response time and inhibitions

you'll do actions delayed and you'll take bigger risks because fuck it
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>>565297813
And you're not there either, don't try and pull rank on me alchemoid
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>>565297124
Vyper was played this week retard, and last week
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>>565298372
I accept your concesion.
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>>565298304
But I am
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>>565298496
So why aren't you in these matches shitter
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>>565298206
>Empty was basically the only good player on the team before hoot swapped its so strange for them to drop him over the gay eceleb.
because they are friends!!! LOL
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>>565298242
true but with the exception of being highly drunk to the point the screen is spinning, I don't think it should effect your gameplay that much. Like 5% worse maybe. And frankly if you're drunk or high playing a video game is the type of activity you should be doing.
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>>565298531
Because I'm not as good as night shift players and I've never claimed to be, especially because I have the first hand experience to know it rather than being a dunning kreuger faggot like you posters
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desu the truth of the matter is if you were really better than the people on night shift or even on the same level as them you would climb to e6 so fast
a lot of these people have been eternus for ages and primarily play in eternus lobbies yet maintain 55-60% winrates and have high impact in most of their games
if you were at their level you would literally solo carry 90% of your games at ascendant and it would be exponentially more so with every rank below that
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>>565298496
What do you think of Tankbuster? Whether you belong in Eternus or not is determined by your answer.
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>>565298659
Sounds like you're shit to me, excuses excuses
The maggot thinks he's top of the shitpile
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Any Mina players here have a good t3 damaging item I can replace Tank Buster with, now that I realize its a fucking meme item keeping me in Alchemist?
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I'm stuck in Oracle IV , any tips in my games to reach phantom?
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>>565298897
stop buying tank buster, stop buying purple items, buy green and orange items, abuse troonvement
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>>565298726
>match avg eternus 6
>57% winrate in 4500 games
and a phantom 2 player on dlg will tell you he's bad because his team lost to victor
when i've played in phantom lobbies it doesn't even feel like human elo i might as well spawn into the game with 20 kills
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>>565299058
If you're so good, go play and win the money
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>>565299058
if youre eternus then phantom games arent human elo is the secret
people really underestimate the skill difference between ranks
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>>565299145
I think you got confused somewhere along the way
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>>565299058
>>565299170
truth nukes.. but let /dlg/ think otherwise
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>>565299145
i'm not good enough to play in the tournaments and win the money is the thing that's why you're foolish if you think any of the people on night shift are bad at the game
they would go 20-1 every game at your mmr or even mine
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>>565299275
>i'm not good enough to play in the tournaments and win the money
anyone can join/form teams and play in tournaments
and by that criteria anyone can win money, you just aren't going to be playing with the dlns teams unless you are dominating a lot of other things
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>>565299058
>Played 4500 games
>Still couldn't carry against Victor
Embarrassing.
Maybe land your hooks next time eternus 6 oid.
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>>565299275
>bags out others for not playing in pro games
>won't play in pro games
Stone, glass house
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>>565299674
i'm not the one opening dlg to say all the people in pro games are bad and i would be there winning if only the money wasn't so bad compared to my mcjob
you have to have a severe level of dunning-kruger to sincerely think you could hold your own in those games at all
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>>565299674
are you baiting or legit retarded? I can never tell in this general
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>/dlg/ defends tankbuster now
What happened to this general?
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>dlg spams how theyre totally-better-than-pros all day long
>someone shows up and gives them a reality check and is humble about their own skill level
>WELL YOU WONT PLAY IN TOURNAMENTS EITHER STONES IN A GLASS HOUSE!!
This is genuinely embarrassing
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A lot of Eternus / pro players are dysgenic subhumans but the insecurity needed to make constant posts about how "bad" and "retarded" they are is equally embarrassing. Especially in regards to the one schizo that is convinced good aim doesn't exist and every Eternus player is totally cheating
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>>565299787
its bait. there are plenty of schizo shitters here
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>>565299805
>>565298840
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>>565299883
trvke
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>pic
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>>565299857
>spams how theyre totally-better-than-pros all day long
No one says this.
Just that pros make retarded choices because they exist in a small echo chamber with very few people.
The scrims/pro community is like 100+ people at max.
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>>565299773
>>565299787
Not my problem, sorry
Put your money where your mouth is if you want me to accept your criticism
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>>565299960
>Just that pros make retarded choices because they exist in a small echo chamber with very few people.
they exist in the same places everyone else does, except the ones we are looking at are permanently at e5/e6 when they are playing matchmaking
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im better than every "pro" player but im stuck in ritualist because of my retarded fucking teammates, if only I had started playing when it was piss easy to get to eternus so I could play with people of my skill level
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>>565299960
Pro players actually play the game hence why sometimes their decisions seem "retarded", they take risks, take fights, and actually contest objectives because that is how you actually play the game. The problem with gutter elo subhumans is that they don't participate, you all live in a constant state of fear and are likely KD obsessed mouthbreathers that will never limit test, and will never improve
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>tfw started to develop numbness and pain in my right hand
its over. deadlock is going to cripple me
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What should I be buying instead of Tank Buster on Mina now that I know its a meme item?
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>>565300179
>buying tankbuster
>on mina
Arcanist-kun...
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>>565300179
get spirit burn and just spam your ult as often as possible
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>>565300269
What item? thank you in advance
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>Tankbuster
>Stalker
Hi retard
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>you guys HAVE to respect the pros, they're a higher caste than you so you cannot ever criticize them!
Indian.
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Weighted shots are a meme item
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>>565300470
But it weights my shots...
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I think spirit is undervalued on Silver and I'm not talking about buying utility
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havent playing this game in year, are parries broken still?
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>>565300532
initiate-kun...
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>>565300470
yeah its better to stay with slowing bullets or just go with point blank instead most of the time
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>>565300382
Can you point out to a single post saying this or are you just assblasted people are pointing out the obvious that /dlg/ posters are coping by acting as if they're better than Eternus players
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>>565300094
I think the biggest thing with lower ranks is how teams tend to halfassedly commit to many things at once instead of full sending on one call
Like in one of the games today some team lost 2 walkers to secure 10 minute urn, which was absolutely a bad trade, but if this scenario happened in a shitlow lobby you'd see 5 people on the team scramble to go defend walkers, get to them at different timings, die, and then probably not even secure the urn because one or two enemies are at the dropoff point stalling them
Another favorite is when the team agrees to try and trade walkers for urn and you get the 2 retards who go to get 5v2ed at the urn dropoff and says "uh guys why are we just giving them urn???"

Also people just leverage a numbers advantage so much more in eternus games because number advantages are very real, at lower ranks people are so afraid of 1 strong enemy that they'll back out of a 3v5 because a Drifter with 9k more souls than everyone else is present for it or something
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>>565300704
>point blank
arcanist-chan...
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Man i've been improving a lot as a player. I found my character, found my niche and i'm ranking up, i'm hovering between phantom and ascendant. But there are people who are so much better than me. Like, ascendant matches are where i start to struggle to stay relevant, and eternus players just dumpster me so hard. Its genuinely just shocking to see the immense gap that there still is between me and the top. And i don't even think its a macro thing anymore, i think this last gap is just sheer raw gameplay skill. They just shoot better, move better, hit their abilities more often, they don't fall for the stuff i usually try. I'm also 30 so maybe my brain is just becoming bad, idk.
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>>565300728
Sorry, how much money have you earned from night shift again?
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>>565300762
Yeah even following a "bad" call as a team is better than going with the scooby doo method. People are also more efficient with their time in higher ranks, people will drop EVERYTHING when a call is made, lower elo games quite literally can not end early because your team will not collapse on midboss after a few midgame picks, they'll wait for a near full teamwipe and even THEN take their sweet time going for mid.
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>>565300882
There are people who are inherently better than others at things, you could be 13 playing the game and you'd still run into the same issue.
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>>565288820
>>565288820
Don't worry about rank in closed beta, Anon. Just have fun!
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we need a chinese guy
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>>565301081
pocket
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>>565300094
Its just ego. Like ninety percent of all decisions taken in this game are made because of ego. The main worry most players have isn't "how can i win the game", its "how can i make it so this wasn't my fault". Trying to do objectives and dying for them means having bad games sometimes, means dying more. If you never try anything you can press tab and shittalk the person on your team with more deaths and just tell yourself there was nothing you could have done.
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>Kelvin lane partner
>"ICE TO MEET YOU"
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noticed that Sinner's Sacrifice is do-re-mi-fa-so-la-ti-do

I think you charge between so and la
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>>565300153
same here wtf
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Mirage has the best on-hit in the game and it’s not even close. With ricochet it basically turns team fights into a countdown before he executes the entire enemy team. How is this not hotfixed?
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>>565300882
Nah. Literally any player can hit Eternus with enough effort. You just have to be more active with your learning.
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>>565300762
>Like in one of the games today some team lost 2 walkers to secure 10 minute urn
In general once the game comes out and we get legit pro teams that actually play to win instead of the current small group of scrimfags that constantly scrim with each other we'll start seeing much better macro. This type of misplay would be unimaginable in a pro game of League or Dota these days. Since deadlock has the aiming and movement component a lot of legit seekerbrains make it into eternus if they have those two skills, look at eidorian for example, guy has generally good aim (something like 57-60% which is top 10th percentile) and amazing movement, but constantly makes retard boo boo brain macro decisions, it works out in pubs since the aim/movement diff is big enough he can make souls from rotations (which is why he plays a lot of Mina, a character that suits his playstyle) but he is complete shit against other people of similar mechanical skill. I think its just a general issue at all ranks that noone actually knows what efficiency actually is for this game yet, and who even is trying to theorycraft? those scammers poshy and deathy? I dont think that the current profags will disappear necessarily, but they will essentially become irrelevant; they wont have some giga advantage due to years of experience since their experience is just basic shootershit and movement, and most of these guys arent really all that advanced in terms of movement either.
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If valve hired heroes of the storm devs instead of hopoo we would have gotten actually fun heroes instead of this faggot piece of shit victor
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>>565301442
meh i dont play mirage but at least he has to aim and do shit not like Dynamo and Infernus i'd rather they hot fix those two soon instead
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>>565300965
nta but i'm phantom and i watch a lot of streams and i notice from eternus streams that the moment a team gets 2 picks past the 20 minute mark they'll funnel 6 dudes into mid boss instantly more often than not
in my games when we get 2-3 picks and someone calls to mid boss 1 person will go base to heal from half hp, 2 people will go to secret shop first, and 3 people will actually go to mid EXCEPT they aren't even the people who do the most damage to mid boss so it dies quite slowly and by the time we make it roar the enemies are already respawning

we had a 6v4 mid call against dynamo, which was risky, but he showed in a sidelane right as midboss roared, so the rejuv should've been free since we had wraith, but our wraith was dicking around scouting for enemies on the stairs for no reason which gave dynamo time to rotate all the way from yellow to mid and hit his black hole
which of course was followed by this faggot saying the midboss call was bad and we shouldn't have done it. no nigger, YOU needed to commit
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>>565301213
Yeah I've gotten past the point where I was a complete shitter getting angry at my teammates for at least trying to play the game because I know how it works now, there is nothing worse than some AFK faggot never participating, always leaving fights first, spamming "retreat", and underrating getting actual picks instead of pushing a singular wave then instantly backing to base or jungle. I would genuinely rather have someone going 0/8/16 or some shit compared to some cuck chair champion sitting with 2/1/2 KD. Bonus points if they're the kind of faggot to do something like finally push a walker because the entire enemy team is about to down your patron and they want to finally pad some objective damage, just sickening.
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>>565283408
>>565287779
I think Paradox is in a good situation right now, it's just that other characters are too strong...
Buffing Paradox is going to open a whole can of worms that will stay shut when you can just nerf Infernus / Dynamo.

I also don't want to risk another major overhaul of her abilities if she ends up getting overbuffed. Swap-support bot was fun and all but this early-midgame pick roam style is much more fun.
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Is the 50/50 meme real? Last week I had a lot of great games with people using comms, coordinated, etc. This week I've has nonstop mute feeders that don't know how to coordinate anything.
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>>565301591
meh you just have to realize that people DONT react in time and you shouldnt call it because nobody fucking does it fast enough, ever. They all have to buy their items, check their phones, whatever these retards do for 15 seconds before responding to any conscious decision making stimulus
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>>565301536
You managed to completely miss the point of the post you're replying to while also soothing yourself with some prime cope, great job
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>>565301667
Yesterday I had a game against Venator, Dynamo, Infernus, Vyper, Rem, and I think Paige the matchmaking is rigged as fuck
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>>565301319
if you're slightly further away from the sinner, you start charging during 4th last light. if you're right in front of the sinner so your melee doesn't cover any distance, you start charging during 3rd
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>>565301667
if you play in the middle of the night yeah, look at this shit

win, lose, win lose, then 5 losses in a row (ignore street brawl) and 5 wins in a row
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>>565301676
i mean i get that, all I'm saying is that's the kind of indecision that you see in phantom and that's what makes phantom players, phantom players
i watch a lot of streams and people have way more confidence in committing to objectives and calls at higher rank
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>>565301591
It just depends, like if the enemy has sinclair midboss is always a gamble since he can just bunny and steal 2+ rejuvs alone. Even if you have 3 people down on the enemy team.
A lot of mid calls should be understanding the enemy comp to guess their contest chances. They have Dynamo, they have Sinclair, etc etc
ALSO FOR FUCK SAKE AT LEAST HAVE SOMEONE PARRY IF YOU HAVE 4 PEOPLE DOWN THERE
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>>565301536
What is the correct macro play?
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>>565301467
I also feel like i just have to play more. I'm playing two matches a day, feels not enough
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Do supports get less soul share? I'm trying to figure out why I'm always down by 10k souls. Even after absorbing souls in lane and not even trying to feed, there's always some enemy that have a 10k soul lead. Next thing you knoe, you're extremely behind.
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>>565301667
yes i went on a win streak as billy IMMEDIATELY I get 5 back to back games with a 0 18 2 Sevens, abysmal Rems and Dynamo and Infernus on the enemy team non stop that wasn't random I refuse to believe it was
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>>565301609
its a double sided blade in shitlow, teams will either be too passive or too broolbrained. Ive had games were i was forced to lanejany as Yamato because seven/wraith/m1ger decided to perma brool brool brool with the team leaving the sidelanes exposed and all our sinners untouched for minutes after spawn, and ive had games were ill gank a lane only for the retards in the lane to stay under tower until ive blown my load and the window of opportunity closes. Though in general i prefer the more passive teams since ive found that making a voice com after 20 minutes will generally get them to do stuff even if sloppily, brool tards meanwhile never stop brooling
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>>565301770
>>565301667
>play during NEET hours
>play with unsocial dregs of humanity
>but they have 8 hours of gaming time so they know how to hit an edgeboost

>play when wagies come home
>they can comm
>but they value their time more so they tilt easier when game isn't going well

when's the optimal time?
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>>565301801
They also have confidence that their teammate isnt a fucking retard and can listen to those calls but yes
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>>565301609
desu I'm right there with you it took me a long time to understand it but I really fucking despise playing with KDA players now
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>>565301885
Just GG and go next fellow billy bro, we play a teamfight hero if you don't have a team you can't carry.
Next game you will get a good team. Hopefully.
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>>565301591
>>565301676
The only way to kind of circumvent this (this applies to other games as well) is to have the gameplan in mind before you actually secure whatever objective you're going for, you are still going to end up in scenarios where people half ass the call and it goes it shit, but if you spell it out beforehand you'll generally get better results. If I'm in a babysitting mood (I'm usually not, one of my weaknesses as a player is I just can't be fucked to comm half the time) I'll say something like "let's look for a few picks ideally so and so hero and if we get them just instantly mid after)

You have to basically spell things out for people, and be intuitive enough to recognize how your team is going to play in response to what is going on in game. Like if I'm in a shitlow lobby (I took a break and deranked quite a bit) and I see a chance to guardian dive or some shit, if I don't say it beforehand I'm not gonna get mad if my teammate doesn't follow up, even if it was the 100% right choice in the moment. It isn't even a consideration for them, it isn't something that has been hammered into them because they could very likely have a quarter of my hours or be a just for fun chungusgamer that misses casual queue.
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>teammate buys tankbuster
I abandon the game. Simple as.
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>>565301609
>go like 0-8 almost winning 1v3s but my team is afk
>inevitably some retard flames you for dying despite them actively griefing by afk jungling
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>>565301542
when will hopoo add a character as fun as loader
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>>565301982
Yeah I am usually a comms-fag and say "next fight we win we get mid boss" or if it's during the fight I say "get one more kill and we can boss"

really helps people prepare in advance and consider the idea beforehand. Also "can we boss" is good too if team is tilted and doesnt want to listen to you or anyone
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>>565301989
>Enemy laners are parry abusers
>My teammate is buying meme shit like stalker
That's a report and abandon
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>>565301878
in coordinated play, supports deliberately leave side lanes to let late game heroes get the whole side lane share
even outside coordinated play, supports are always joining fights and don't have much time to lane janny or farm camps

you're just going to end up with less money overall if you're fighting for urn, buffs, walkers, etc. 24/7
I guess what I do is I straight up just don't join fights that aren't around one of those objectives, this gives me more time to farm for myself.
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>>565301831
Not losing two walkers? Each walker is 4k souls, so the total is 8k, the urn only reaches that value about 25-30 minutes into the game, at which point the majority of eternus/DLNS games are over/nearing end. The walkers also give a lot of map presence near vital farm like the doubles making it much safer to actually take them, and the resistances they give also make them a good fallback point. Urn is important, but not two walkers important. Even giving one walker for urn can be disastrous if its solo taken by the enemy's hypercarry, since that fag will now have a huge individual soul lead and be a huge issue in following fights, which is why its important to never give the enemy the opportunity to push the walker solo
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>>565293314
STOP FUCKING FARMING
THREE OF THEM ARE DEAD
WE NEED YOUR DAMAGE TO CLEAR MIDBOSS BEFORE THEY'RE UP
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>>565302279
Walkers hold their value for the entire game, urn respawns walker dont
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>>565302142
Most of the time it feels like I have to beg my team-mates to not int
STOP OVEREXTENDING IN ENEMY JUNGLE WHEN WE HAVE CAMPS AND SINNERS IN OUR SIDE
STOP TRYING TO TAKE THE LAST WALKER WHEN THE ENEMY HAS LASH ULT, LOOK FOR PICKS
WE GOT A PICK LETS TAKE URN AND GENERATE A SOUL ADVANTAGE
It doesn't help that I'm forced to lane janny most of the time so I can't help the retarded apollo over-extending and getting himself killed 20 minutes in.
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I feel like cold front slow doesn't do shit
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>>565302213
So support should roam and carry should just soak the whole lane by themselves, I was kinda Rem and Dynamo in one lane, we did pretty good laning til a venetator ganked us and took yellow guardian/walker? Deadlock needs to learn HOTS XP soak farming system.
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>>565302371
cant have the movementroons getting uppity by making it actually have an effect, sry guy
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>>565302367
I'm usually the one feeding if the game is going bad, I take all the aggro of the enemy team by pushing the limits. In that way I prevent my teammates from feeding and can win games since only I am smart enough to know how to make a build that works if I fall behind
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https://youtu.be/8ZrnV6PrdzQ?si=TvgyjHNvS-azLysS
sorry for streamer react clip but wtf, not something i expected to see today
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Lash feel like ult bot... His stomp does like 10% HP with max purple invest...
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>>565302371
It does. But because it does not reduce dash distance they can just use their stamina to get away. Actually, why does Slowing Bullets reduce dash distance anyway? Call it Slowing Bullets Hex. The only 1600 item that should reduce dash distance is the actual slowing hex active.
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Why are the "carry" characters stronger than most support in the landing phase?
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>>565302585
You have to run him as a spirit/gun hybrid
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>>565302612
Slowing Hex Bullets*
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>>565302585
He is. And I hope you enjoy the counterspell/speallbreaker that makes your kit even more worthless. Spirit damage is a joke late game that is basically non existent
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>>565302630
Which support cause Dynamo, Paige, and Kelvin are all lane terrorists
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>>565302371
Cold front is strong enough fuck off
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>>565302371
>>565302612
This. I stopped buying cold front for slowing bullets on drifter and it's just way better. All slows need to reduce dash distance so movement troons cant just get out immediately. I saw a silver use her dash/wolf jump to just go halfway across the map today, total bullshit.
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>>565302630
neither one should be strong in lane fuck kelvin
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>>565302630
Because there are very obvious developer favorite characters that have to stay strong early, mid, and late game no matter the patch.

Infernus and Haze players saying they have a weak lane are generational down players.
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>>565302881
>>565303165
I accept your concession.
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>>565303020
Thats nothing, I saw one use the jump to go from xher green walker to my yellow walker. Without touching the ground!
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>>565303225
But I was asking question
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>playing with friend
>he constantly complains about how somebody "stole his kill"
what causes this
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>>565303278
You were seekerwhining about Dynamo, Paige and Kelvin.
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>>565303353
DOTA and League of Legends puts a lot of weight on last hits. So it creates this mental illness.
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>>565303263
It was like a scene out of a comedy movie where the guy just keeps fucking going and doesnt stop. The movement is out of control they really need a cap on momentum or time in the air that gradually slows you down and drops you. You shouldnt defy gravity and should constantly be dropping
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>>565302881
Doorman
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>>565294225
>for the same price point surge of power will do more damage than tankbuster 90% of the time
if you're still here do you have a more specific example of this
I'm messing with it in the range against an infernus bot
>apollo with tankbuster
>18 boons, 16000 souls
>infernus has 2677 hp
>31% / 0% spirit res
>full hp sigil does 420 / 496 damage
>half hp (~1330) does 316 / 396 damage
>20% hp (~525) does 253 / 339 damage
>replace tankbuster with surge of power
>202 / 294 damage
even removing all the greens and spirit res from infernus, and hitting him at 300 hp, tankbuster is doing more damage than surge
and it works on all of your abilities
it seems like tankbuster is only doing less damage when you're chaining abilities together and it hasn't fully charged up
but even then, against an infernus with 500 health left and zero spirit res, chaining flawless straight into sigil, it does 284 damage which is like 3% less damage than surge of power

2677 health isn't a lot, and ignoring resistances is strong when any combination of enchanters + mystic vuln + dispel + locket are giving incidental spirit res to pretty much every hero in your match
what am i missing or doing wrong that makes it so surge does more damage 90% of the time
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THE DARKNESS CREEPS EVER CLOSER AS THE DRIFTER WALKS AMONGST THEM
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https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/rank-does-not-move-no-matter-if-loss-or-win.129880/

>brooo the ranking system is broken Im stuck at almost the lowest rank possible
>well yeah I have a 45% winrate but why does that matter?
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>>565303591
dey gon try to run but it dont mattah...
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>>565303554
Stay in initiate.
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>>565303703
but i'm eternus 4
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>>565303703
oh xhes boilin kekw
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>>565303554
>>565303732
You were literally ragebaited into trying to test item efficiency by egotistical retards who needed to lord itemization over the pros because tankbuster isn't in their L>R community build
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brooo the ranking system is broken Im stuck at almost the lowest rank possible
well yeah I have a 45% winrate but why does that matter?
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>>565303643
There is a disproportionate amount of people in Initiate 2, it is indeed a side effect of the matchmaking algorithm. We once had a patch where like 30% of the playerbase was Initiate I forcing a complete badge redistribution.
>heheh... at least im not initiate
inb4 ritualist player with an ego
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Any doorman builds that focus on him being a pick / initiator instead of a door kidnapper? I'd really rather just press my button on someone and focus on the rest of the enemy team while one of them is in gay baby jail.

>>565303353
I just say it because it's funny.
Is he serious or is he joking?

>>565303674
I'm pretty sure I can outrun two of them...

>>565303834
When he can have more traps active at the same time.
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>>565303902
Doorman wouldn't be anywhere near as much of a controversial character if he was a cute girl
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>>565303674
Pic makes me realize how dumb drifter's outfit is they need to change it. Why is the hobo vampire wearing bad clothes from this time period? He should be wearing clothes from his victims so they dont fit or some really old style cape and shit.

I feel like he'd have the same humor as the terrifier and play dress up ironically just to troll people. A tiny clown hat, cosplaying, etc
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>>565304015
obviously some AI filter, gross
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>>565304015
>>565304118
It's literally impossible for Asian cosplayers to not use 50 layers of AI and photoshop
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>>565304118
is this better?
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>enemy side
>infernus
>dynamo
>wraith
>abram
>kelvin
>shiv
Fucking end me
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>>565304021
This guy's predicting the future Drifter skins...
>>565304198
Me on the left
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>>565304198
A little bit yeah I dont want to look at some fake face at least they have the guts and honestly to post themselves
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Doorman players look like THIS?
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>>565304169
true for any asian lol, not just cosplayers
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>have fun getting kills early as doorman
>team actually sucks and can't end
>enemy team just deathballs with fat robot fuck
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What is this shit, 1 week ago i got seven everygame when i queued.
Now i have seven prio 2 and everything else regular and wont get him ever
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>>565304571
the metaslaves have found out about him... its over...
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>>565302493
Who even watches these podcasts?
Boomers?
How do feel about them getting into Deadlock?
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>https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/low-priority-issues.129850/

Who was in the wrong here? Valve banished him to low prio for dying 21 times while doing a suicide push infernus build (and doing it in many other games too)

I've died over 20 times before and never got sent to low priority so his team must be reporting him and it's just auto banning based on confirming a high # of deaths or something
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>>565304668
the type of guy to listen to joe rogan has also never touched a video game a day in his life
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>>565304462
>25
im two years younger than him and look 12 years older. jesus, man.
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>>565304668
I dunno who his demographic is but he got paid like 100 million dollars to work on spotify so he has a lot of viewers. Retards watching king retard is a sad state of affairs though
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>>565304857
>him
don't tell him...
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>>565304857
That's probably because that cosplayer is female to male trans
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>>565304857
that's a FtM troon
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>>565305116
>>565305090
>>565304961
Damn zoomies are mentally ill
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>>565304961
>>565305090
>>565305116
what a terrible world we live in.
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>SENDING A BARREL!
>IN HERE, I AM KING!
>LET'S START BREAKING SHIT!
>DEY GON TRY TO RUN BUT IT DONT MATTAHH...
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for me it's abusing the billy qsr bug
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>>565305254
those stick legs really make me think it's a tranny and not just a boyish girl
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>>565305974
If it is, that would explain the shitty nosejob
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1950s NYC setting was a mistake imo. How do you rationalize half the cast being some type of brown when 1950s NYC was nearly entirely white.
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maybe the same way they rationalize some of the cast being fucking blue or a green goo creature or an alien with a sword or an electric guy or a robot you mongoloid
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>>565306379
>>565306484
retards
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>>565306379
It already wasn't white by then
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>>565304806
>Abusing the fuck out of broken flame build going 20+ deaths in an average match
Should be banned from the game to be quite desü with you
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>>565283616
you would probably need both hands to hold her gigantic warm, wet cookie... or musky knot
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>>565306379
>1950s NYC was nearly entirely white.
Italians, Irish, and Jews aren't white.
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>Drifter inting game
>Apollo arguing with him
>Kindly ask them to stop telling each other to kill themselves and to focus up because the game is winnable
>We lose because Drifter decides to afk
This game is dogshit sometimes man.
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>>565306721
>If you do a literal troll strategy where you hold W at buildings with impunity you die 20+ times
It's like you retards think you just spawn into the match 50-0 if you pick an S tier hero
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>>565306843
Going afk is the easiest report for throwing ever
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>>565283616
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New patch when?
Silver buffs when?
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>>565306379
Lumpenprole are taught there were black vikings and anglos-saxons 800 AD they don't need to rationalize anything because that's just history to them.
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>>565306982
found the mick
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>>565306889
Is this reply in agreement or disagreement, cannot tell.
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>>565304806
So THIS is the power of ascendant...
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>>565305254
>>565305974
>>565306061
I'd rather fuck the Kelvin
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apollo being able to stun you out of ult with no investment is so dumb
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>>565305254
>The dead eyed stare from the tranny
Sad how people encourage this self mutilation and harm.
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>>565307184
>plugging twitch in name while doing retarded nonsense
yeah perma ban that piece of shit
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>>565307184
>split pusher suicide build
but why healbane green over sprint doe
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>>565307408
kelvin's eyes are just as dead though.
not everyone can be as excited about being photographed as that drifter
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>>565307439
It's just wholesome reddit racism akin to hating the French for existing. Don't say the same about niggers tho!!
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i fucking love pauselock
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>>565307669
I wish they would remove this dumbass feature
>load into game
>pause on frame 1
don't queue if you're not ready to play I don't care how long the queue is fuck you
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Why does Kelvin bomb get double spirit scaling at T5
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>>565307794
frame 1 pause is for switching lanes. mid game pauses are for when your mom calls you
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I really like most of the characters, but I feel like there are no fuckable characters and most of the cast is woke/ugly/fat/furry.

Don't get me wrong, I like how they play and I can appreciate the design. But there are no gooner characters. I'm coming from League of Legends and Overwatch and there are A LOT of sexy characters and 18+ artworks, videos and entire OF cosplay pages. I'm a bit sexual, chad lite and I feel like there are only 2, maximum 3 fuckable characters. I hate modern wokeness.
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>haze feeds drifter
>spends all game crying about him being strong
you're the one that created that problem why do you have to keep fucking reminding us?
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>>565307932
wrong general friend
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>>565307932
the only sexy character in LoL is naafiri
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>>565307669
for some reason when the game was paused here my camera kept zooming out more and more and more and more
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>>565285702
Silver upplayers don't actually play the game so there's no point arguing with them.
Everyone knows Silver is B tier at best, even the upplayers.
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>>565307932
bro just mod the game and take the characters clothes off
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>>565307932
>I'm a bit sexual, chad lite
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>>565307932
agreed but valve doesn’t wanna hear it they’re rather add more kelvins and mirages than put sexy women in the game. they threw us a bone with Ivy right before shitting on us and cuckong us with Victor.

I’m just waiting for the day when they release the next male character who is a fat ugly bastard who fucks silver
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>>565306379
>half the cast
You mean Calico and Wraith. The US was 10% African American in the 1950s so if anything it's a lower proportion.

bait
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another job well done by le epic kidnapper
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>>565308465
Are skin mods allowed? I feel like valve doesn't want that because of paid skins.
>>565308581
Sorry, I meant "bisexual chad lite"
>>565308694
Exactly, but at least there is one Twink
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>>565308465
This, but ironically
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>>565308694
>I’m just waiting for the day when they release the next male character who is a fat ugly bastard who fucks silver
based
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>join official deadlock discord
>someone unironically getting pissed off about their pronouns not being used
Why are deadlockers like this? Is it the autistic movement?
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>>565310245
you were the one using the wrong pronouns werent you
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>>565309593
Skins are allowed 100% even the tournament people use skins, just be careful about the mods giving you too much information about the game that's a grey zone.
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>>565308694
>>565307932
There are plenty of sexy women that have been added in the past two hero update you just expect them to look like bimbos cause of your porn addled brain. personally I think they ruined the aesthetic of the game by adding graves/silver they're clearly bending the knee to horny gacha shitters
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All mods are cheats.
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>>565310293
Nope I'm either full toxic or none at all. If I'm getting banned im getting my money's worth
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https://files.catbox.moe/t58f4l.mp4
Wraith and FemMirage seem to be having an argument
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>>565310380
is fat ivy a cheat if i can only play with one hand?
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>>565310461
well whatever you know how pronoun babies are. You can play along and not trigger them, or make fun of them and say YWNBAW and they get triggered and cry. You should know this by now.
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>>565310575
one of my friends growing up was Filipino and he said nigga all the time. If anyone ever called him out he'd say "wtf man I'm brown"
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>>565310752
Yeah but I wanted to read thoughts about the shiv character instead i have two retards shitting up the channel with their bickering
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slow day at work, gib me characters to sketch
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>>565311017
unfortunate
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>>565311206
slork
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>>565311206
rem sitting on drifter's shoulders while they're walking in a park
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>>565311206
its probably slow because it's 6:30 am you weirdo
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>>565311206
Ivy
Draw her happy and eating a hot dog
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>>565311206
Soul urn running from lash
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>>565311206
I love Viper's VA but no one draws her because her in game model is ugly.
>Viper ambushing one of the patrons with a shiv
>"You're about to Get GOT!"
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>>565311017
The character channels are either secret Chinese tech that are notably better than the trending builds or discord drama. So kind of like these threads in a sense.
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>>565311748
Sexy snake lady model update when
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>>565311206
Rem as this
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Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever seen anyone who sounded biologically female playing anything else than Paige, Rem or Celeste.
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>>565311960
I can't get in to the discord. And I want to, if nothing else just so I can get into the official modding cord.
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>>565311971
She is described as a "gorgon". I wonder what a trailer trash medusa would look like.
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>>565312274
>gorgon
lol gorgon bola
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>>565312080
yeah women who play games are basic as fuck. Ohhh wow you're playing fucking Paige no way. Let me guess you play Mercy in Overwatch?
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>>565312274
>>565312331
gargon these bolas
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>>565312080
the one time a foid talked in one of my games in deadlock she was on victor
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>>565312080
they are always, always duoing with an apollo too. paige/apollo is the defining egirl/eboy duo of deadlock for whatever reason. it used to be paige/victor before he got nerfed into nothing
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Vindicta has to be the most nonsensical character in the game; She's supposed to be an early-mid game roam/gank/pick character, then late game carry, but has the second lowest health in the game, no kit mobility apart from blowing her flight for a super jump (that doesnt work if you are being attacked) 2 base stamina and lackluster damage due to the stack gimmick, if you dont get 100 stacks you have the worst DPS . Honestly think they should remove the stacks completely, give an execute threshold to snipe (5% would be enough to keep it relevant, it becomes useless past 20 minutes in the current health meta), give her three base stamina and make the flight T3 give -14 sec CD instead of duration renew on kill. Infinite growth mechanics are just retarded
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>>565313032
skill issue
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Geist is kind of a Drifter/Troubadour in the making

Imagine her in 150 years wandering from town to town murdering to feed her lust for life. Dressed in a ragged bloodstained dress
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>>565313294
That's why she's in the ritual, anon. To not become that.
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Why is /dlg/ full of rank downplayers? According to people here Archon is full of fresh installs but if you look at actual data like statlocker the 50% percentile is ritualist 3.
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>>565314012
just because you're over 50% doesn't mean there aren't, in fact, fresh installs everywhere and it makes playing frustrating when yeah, you are in an upper colored rank but it just feels like charity and your teammates are embarrassing
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I'm seeker btw
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>>565314012
because the rank system is flawed and puts literal new players there, look at this guy i just found on google, i also found a kelvin spammer whose lifetime record was 19 wins 40 losses in oracle 1
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>>565314960
lol
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>>565314316
>>565314960
>>565315086
yeah and if you think they're secret prodigies or something they aren't. They won't know basic mechanics and will use the default build. One of my emmisary lobbies today featured a player who clearly didn't know what parrying was.
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>>565315219
>a player who clearly didn't know what parrying was.
Maybe he has integrity and refuses to use parries as they are a bullshit mechanic that shouldn't exist.
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>>565314316
>>565314960
>>565315086
I mean... it IS still in closed beta. There really aren't that many players to fill the ranks. I speak from experience went I say the average deadlock player just randomly max range heavy melees and doesn't know to shoot orbs.
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>>565315409
what's your rank parry schizo? I'm guessing streetbrawl only
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>>565314012
Because people like >>565314316 post and they see people their rank playing suboptimally and blame them for their loss without accepting that they're also suboptimal which is why they are the rank they are. Same reason why they believe in fake nonsense copes like forced 50, they're unable to see their own flaws.
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>>565315495
>parry schizo
That's the guy that defends parries.
Everyone else knows they are bullshit.
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>>565315535
it's not cope dude, fresh new players are evident through Archon easily. It's really obvious. Ideally, they'd be regulated to Alch at the most but like >>565315478 said there probably aren't enough players to fill the ranks. Maybe there's nothing they can do, but it makes your rank feel meaningless.
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>>565312124
There is no "official" modding discord, it's run by mods of the official server but it's not affiliated with Valve.

The official server isn't that interesting. The devs aren't really active and it's mostly gif spam, unless you go to the smaller channels and threads.
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>>565315562
>dodging the question
enjoy your streetbrawls faggot
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>>565315738
either way, in order to join the leading (albiet unofficial) modding discord they still need to verify that you're in the official deadlock cord, and I aint
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>>565315794
Oracle V and climbing, schizo.
Haven't used a parry in months, as only subhumans use them.
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>>565315934
>and climbing
gonna doubt that considering you refuse to interact with game mechanics, have fun being hardstuck
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>>565314012
It's even higher, statlocker is primarily fed matches from higher ranks. That being said, fresh installs do get put into weird places, you occasionally see them even in Phantom. There was a guy in Oracle V that had less than an hour in the game.

Archon is primarily people from Oracle that tried new characters and started feeding.
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>>565316017
Keep coping and projecting, parryschizo.
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>>565316198
A. you're probably full of shit anyway and B. I don't give a shit if you're Eternus your daily ranks are fucking exhausting. Shut the fuck up.
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>>565285760
explain to me nigga, how the fuck is sinclair a lane rapist when his bolt does like 2 points of spirit damage??
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>>565315894
I don't think that's still the case now that embargo is lifted. The problem is they hid the server invite because a bunch of Twitter retards trying to start drama kept targeting the server (eg Project8)
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>>565305254
ironically, the drifter cosplayer is the only one that has light, and life in his eyes lol
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>>565315894
>>565316872
cont.
If you want to join the server, this is the invite
>P_PCCtYt2B
The underscore is a number. I'm being weirdly cryptic to filter the tards. If you care you can join.
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>>565317041
>sheriff on a suicidal revenge quest
>undead man who only knows his friends are all dead or missing but not how or why
>guy just living his best life and enjoying the simple things
it makes perfect sense
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>>565307382
A shitton of heroes can do this tho
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>>565316269
Cry about it.
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>>565317041
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>Parryschizo is Oraclelow
It's all coming together
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>>565317581
Parry schizo is the guy who thinks everyone who dislikes parries is the same person. That anon is just an honest player, parry schizo.
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>>565317810
this is advanced schizophrenia
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>>565311206
McGinnis looking as evil as possible
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>THROWING NAPALM
>retard dispels it
>THROWING NAPALM (i have rapid recharge and it has 4 charges lol)
What did he achieve there
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>Mfw Billy against Shiv and Abrams
At this point I'm tempted to throw billy into the trashcan because he just sucks.
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>>565317863
stop replying to it, retard
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so resto locket went from one of the worst items to hard meta without any changes
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>>565317581
Did the parryschizo post what rank he is?
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>>565317336
you're the one crying
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>>565318452
>They're about to learn that their necks are too short to box with God.
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When are they adding payload to deadlock?
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>spirit geist but instead of bombs it's about sucking
opinions?
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>>565318998
pls no, i hate payload games
BROOLHEADS would be even harder to reign in
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>>565319713
The problem isn't that Street Brawl is incentivizing people to brool moar, it's that the game is heavily balanced in favor of running it down with good aim.
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>>565317972
get a glimpse into my sick and twisted psyche
>>565311449
timezones, I posted at the start of my lunch break



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